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Cylus |
zBuilder: The alias trick works well, though just like the ABM trick, you will need to leave the alias as long as the world exists, as you won't know when the last node has been converted. |
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zBuilder |
haha I couldn't seem to get it to work, maybe I misunderstand. but I made a recipe that will convert it and that works so now I can change the items in my inventory |
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marioxcc |
what would you recommend for system monitoring and e-mail alert generation? |
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AgentFire |
Are there any dedicated hunger games servers on here? |
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Nerotic |
Maybe. Check the server list. |
| 01:14 |
Nerotic |
I don't really play Minetest anymore, I just mess around with the code, and test occasionally. |
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AgentFire |
Ahh, I'd like to kill people x3 |
| 01:14 |
AgentFire |
I mean, swords are kind of useless with no PvP and no mobs |
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zBuilder |
some games have Mobs and there are mods to add them(?) |
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marioxcc |
what would you guys recommend for system monitoring and e-mail alert generation? |
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AgentFire |
zBuilder: Yeah, but a lot of servers don't |
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zBuilder |
ah. I only played on a couple servers, but the ones I tried the spawning was funny(started in a wall, and then basically fell through on one side to a very small world with only 2 platform-like things). the other ones ar eprobably better but I'm not sure how I'd do in the, |
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AgentFire |
Can somebody who is playing minetest on a computer play with someone who is playing minetest on a phone? |
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Thenextlevel |
yes |
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Thenextlevel |
if they cant connect to the same sever |
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Thenextlevel |
can not cant |
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* AgentFire |
passes people the bacon pringles |
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sloantothebone |
привет mrtux |
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mrtux |
wat |
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fling |
Hello. |
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fling |
I want to interconnect bitcoind and money mods. |
| 03:42 |
sloantothebone |
mrtux it's russian for hello, pronounced privyet |
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sloantothebone |
fling what is money mods? |
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fling |
mrtux: 안녕 in korean, pronounced anyoung |
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fling |
sloantothebone: money mod adds money or economy |
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VanessaE |
fling: regarding bitcoind... use PND instead :) |
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sloantothebone |
Why do you say bitcoind? it's bitcoin, not bitcoind |
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fling |
VanessaE: what is pnd? |
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VanessaE |
sloantothebone: bitcoind as in the daemon |
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fling |
sloantothebone: I'm mostly typing bitcoind word not bitcoin because of the app name. |
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VanessaE |
fling: Pandacoin (PND is the symbol). pandacoinpnd.org |
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mrtux |
fling, sloantothebone: i'm using a CLI irc client and it just appeared as question marks for me |
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sloantothebone |
oh lol |
| 04:00 |
fling |
mrtux: I'm using irssi and it works fine here. You are probably missing unicode and/or fonts. |
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sloantothebone |
I'm using hexchat |
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mrtux |
I'm using weechat through ssh on rxvt-unicode |
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fling |
sloantothebone: Привет, поцанчик. |
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fling |
mrtux: awesome -> urxvtc -> urxvtd -> mosh-client -> mosh-server -> screen -> irssi |
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mrtux |
heh |
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mrtux |
i use i3 |
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fling |
VanessaE: why panda? |
| 04:02 |
fling |
mrtux: I'm about to try it someday. |
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mrtux |
it's really nice |
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VanessaE |
fling: it's a smaller currency than bitcoin, easier for the masses to understand, cheaper. |
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fling |
VanessaE: I want my players to mine satoshis :D |
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VanessaE |
well.. |
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VanessaE |
I like PND, what can I say :) |
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fling |
VanessaE: I like your mods. |
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VanessaE |
thanks :) |
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n4x |
also, hi |
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fling |
All these trees things are awesome. |
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fling |
n4x: Hello. |
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n4x |
\o/ |
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n4x |
how is it going, wild shibes |
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fling |
sloantothebone: Как жизнь? |
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sloantothebone |
not sure what жизнь means |
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sloantothebone |
*uses google translate* I am fine thank you |
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* sloantothebone |
doesn't know all the words |
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freelikegnu |
VanessaE: loving your plantlife and more trees :D |
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VanessaE |
:D |
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freelikegnu |
I added it to my carbone server |
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freelikegnu |
my kids love it too |
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VanessaE |
glad you guys like them :) |
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freelikegnu |
best part is plants and trees in caves |
| 05:18 |
freelikegnu |
before using your mod, I was manually planting sapplings in caves |
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freelikegnu |
now htat is optional |
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freelikegnu |
it more fun to discover underground growth |
| 05:39 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: I have an idea for the flowers mod. Seeds! I would think 2 flowers yield 2 seeds. This would allow for the creation of dye farms. |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
flowers will already spread by default |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
or at least, they're supposed to |
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VanessaE |
that's something you should first talk to sfan5, nore, or other minetest_game guys about |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
see what they say. if not, I might be able to wedge it into flowers_plus |
| 05:41 |
Fritigern |
Yes, they are supposed to spread (which they won;t when using mg, i blame mg for that). But can the user control where they spread to? |
| 05:42 |
Fritigern |
If you have seeds that can be sown, then you can grow the flowers in neat rows |
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VanessaE |
the user can't precisely control where the flowers spread to, no |
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MinetestBot |
[git] KodexKy -> minetest/minetest: Fix raillike bug (currently manifests itself on Android), and minor improvement to readability. b9bc8da http://git.io/w0N-Pg (2014-11-20T15:41:59+10:00) |
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Miner_48er |
Fritigern bonemeal has a similar function https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5429 |
| 05:53 |
Fritigern |
Miner_48er: But it will not let you grow a row of blue flowers next to a row of yellow ones, etc. |
| 05:54 |
Miner_48er |
you may have to write a mod for it i don't know of any that do that |
| 05:55 |
Fritigern |
LOL! I was already typing something along those lines |
| 05:55 |
Fritigern |
Of course, i could try and wrestle some LUA into submission, making a mod that depends on the flowers mod and that creates seeds accorsding to my recipe |
| 05:55 |
Fritigern |
But the issue is that i don;t know lua |
| 05:56 |
Miner_48er |
here's the manual http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/ |
| 05:56 |
Fritigern |
I suppose there are no noob-level mod writing tutorials, huh? |
| 05:57 |
Fritigern |
And that manual is not helpful, it is not minetest-specific. I need super simple code, almost easy enough for a baby to understand. |
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VanessaE |
I refuse to ever support bonemeal in any mod |
| 05:58 |
Miner_48er |
http://dev.minetest.net/Intro |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
that's just plain TOO MUCH like MC. |
| 06:01 |
Fritigern |
Miner_48er: so i had a quick look at that wiki page, and the first issue i run into is the groups thing. A seed should go into which group? |
| 06:02 |
Miner_48er |
none of them |
| 06:03 |
Fritigern |
And i geuss it also wouldn;t need an ABMK, whatever the heck ABM may stand for |
| 06:04 |
Fritigern |
That WIKI page almost raises more questions than it answers |
| 06:04 |
Fritigern |
It's great if you aleready know what is what, i guess |
| 06:05 |
Miner_48er |
try learning from some basic mods |
| 06:05 |
Fritigern |
can you suggest me one or more? |
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Miner_48er |
bucket |
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fling |
sloantothebone_: why are you using 'привет' word then? :P |
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AgentFire |
Is there a bank mod |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
AgentFire: there's the currency mod that gives steady income to active players, shops and barter tables, but no banks as such |
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CWz |
anyone here know which mod adds the places menu for modmenu/inventory_plus |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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CWz |
mornings kaeza |
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Jordach |
I. FEEL. WRONG. |
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Jordach |
>AMD CPU >nVidia GTX 750ti |
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Zeno` |
Fritigern, if it's a bug with plantslib make a PR for Vanessa ;) |
| 12:20 |
Fritigern |
Well, that's the thing. I don;lt know if i have corrected an actual bug, or if i messed up something that was supposed to be the way it was. |
| 12:20 |
Zeno` |
Where is the change again? |
| 12:20 |
Fritigern |
Line 502 and 503, changed spawn_plants to biome.spawn_plants |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
gimme URL! :D |
| 12:21 |
Fritigern |
Those two lines are the only places where spawn_plants occur like that |
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Fritigern |
Oh, hold on! |
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Zeno` |
I see it |
| 12:22 |
Zeno` |
that's a bug |
| 12:23 |
Fritigern |
https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife_modpack/blob/master/plants_lib/init.lua |
| 12:24 |
Zeno` |
good find |
| 12:24 |
Fritigern |
I wouldn;t have found it if my debug.log wasn;t full of hints :-))))) |
| 12:26 |
Fritigern |
BTW, farming has undeclared globals too. And bushes do, ad mg does... and... blah blah blah a lot more. :-) |
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Fritigern |
So, i take it that from now on, the use of uninitialized globals is a bigger no-no than before? |
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Zeno` |
looks like it :) |
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Zeno` |
sssssssshhhhhhhhh there is a spy here |
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Fritigern |
LOL |
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kaeza |
Fritigern, more generally, don't use globals unless you absolutely must |
| 12:39 |
n4x |
Zeno`: weeks of months? I envy you! |
| 12:40 |
kaeza |
(and even then, the only reasons I see for "absolutely must" are either defining a single global table as a namespace, or supporting old code) |
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* kaeza |
hugs n4x |
| 12:40 |
n4x |
weeks intead of months** |
| 12:40 |
n4x |
\o kaeza |
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* n4x |
hugs back |
| 12:41 |
Megaf |
Hi, how do I revert a git pull? |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
git revert <commit id> |
| 12:41 |
Megaf |
I want to go one commit before |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
~120fps in Minetest |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
wow |
| 12:42 |
Megaf |
ok, thanks |
| 12:43 |
Zeno` |
haha |
| 12:43 |
Fritigern |
The vines mod too causes a warning. In this case,m the variable is inside an ABM definition. Can i safely change that into a local var? Or would that make things go boom? |
| 12:43 |
Zeno` |
Jordach, is 120fps good? |
| 12:43 |
Jordach |
Zeno`, ya |
| 12:43 |
Zeno` |
cool |
| 12:44 |
n4x |
for Zeno`, it is slow isn't it? |
| 12:44 |
n4x |
I mean, he has like 40 GPUs in parallel and an overclocked cpu at 5GHz |
| 12:44 |
Zeno` |
n4x, when I was writing the code I think I went from 900fps max to 1500fpx to >2000fps max |
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Zeno` |
my aim is for everybody to get >40fps, but lights are a problem |
| 12:45 |
n4x |
what |
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* sfan5 |
meows at Zeno` |
| 12:45 |
Fritigern |
Oh, i think i have my answer. It looks like the var is what i call a helper var, it's used to store the value of another var so that math can be done with it |
| 12:46 |
Zeno` |
I still can't get >20fps on VanessaE's survival server at spawn |
| 12:46 |
Zeno` |
so that is something that needs looking at :( |
| 12:46 |
* Zeno` |
purrs at sfan5 |
| 12:46 |
n4x |
Zeno`: I have a GPU that can't play _superhexagon_ without lagging, should I get 40FPS too? |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
nx4, the bottleneck is CPU-side not GPU |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
and after my last few commits I am struggling to get much improvement at all |
| 12:48 |
Zeno` |
might be at the limit |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
and it may be months r.e. the food lol |
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n4x |
heh |
| 12:50 |
Zeno` |
rice is cheap |
| 12:51 |
Zeno` |
rice with ketchup; rice with soy sauce; rice with chilli sauce; rice with squeeze of lemon <--- my diet in the near future |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
rice with... rice! |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
yummo! |
| 12:53 |
n4x |
if I bought a samsung galaxy, my diet would be that for like a year |
| 12:53 |
n4x |
tech is expensive |
| 12:53 |
Megaf |
the last commit in minetest fucked up everything again |
| 12:53 |
Zeno` |
which commit Megaf? |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
Thats the worst mess I have ever seen in my server |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
That's not the last commit |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
From https://github.com/minetest/minetest │nit.lua:480 |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
55e4c35..b9bc8da master -> origin/master │07:31:03: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "handle_timer" accessed at ...ds/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_luacontroller/i |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
Updating 55e4c35..b9bc8da |
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| 12:54 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: It's the mods that are messed up. This commit only exposes the problems |
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Zeno` |
yeah, that's not because of the last commit |
| 12:54 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: It's the mods that are messed up. This commit only exposes the problems |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: really? |
| 12:55 |
Fritigern |
Yup. I am currently hunting down the issues in the mods and fixing them |
| 12:55 |
Megaf |
so the server is fine and so is minetest? |
| 12:55 |
Zeno` |
the actual commit is a6ba042c |
| 12:55 |
Fritigern |
Especially plants_lib was causing lots of console spam becausse of a tiny oversight |
| 12:56 |
Zeno` |
Fritigern, apart from the warnings do things work? |
| 12:56 |
Fritigern |
Zeno`: As far as i can tell, it does |
| 12:56 |
Zeno` |
yep, I guess that was the intention then |
| 12:57 |
Fritigern |
The console plants_lib cuased a lot of lines to be added to debug.log, and that slowed down stuff. But once i had fixed that, the slow down was gone |
| 12:58 |
Zeno` |
I *do* think this should have been delayed until after 0.4.11 was released but such is life |
| 12:59 |
Zeno` |
in the long run it will improve things of course |
| 12:59 |
Fritigern |
So what i understand is that in Lua, if you don;t tell the script that a variable is a local variable (local my_var), it will always be a global |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: Fritigern |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
http://paste.debian.net/plain/132623 |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
at least there is no errors related to my mods that I use in my server |
| 13:00 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: http://pastebin.com/ju4wAzHN |
| 13:01 |
Megaf |
Ok, so, what am I suposed to do now? |
| 13:01 |
Megaf |
Just run the server as usual? |
| 13:02 |
Zeno` |
Yes, running the server as usual *should* be fine |
| 13:02 |
Zeno` |
but, also contact the mod authors (they'll discover soon enough, but better to do it...) |
| 13:02 |
Fritigern |
Yes, unless you want to run a slightly earlier version |
| 13:02 |
Megaf |
I will report those errors on mods githubs |
| 13:03 |
Fritigern |
Megaf, i am currently working on plantlife, and wil be taking on mg. Just so you know |
| 13:03 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: I will report unified_inventory, worldedit and mesecons |
| 13:03 |
Megaf |
and homedecor |
| 13:04 |
Zeno` |
poor Vanessa :( |
| 13:04 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: witch commit is that? |
| 13:04 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: at least Fritigern is already working on plantlife |
| 13:04 |
Zeno` |
yep :) |
| 13:05 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: You mway want to report some of the other technic mods instead. It's not unified_inventory that is causing the issues. |
| 13:05 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: I have no technic on my server, I have only unified_inventory |
| 13:06 |
Fritigern |
Zeno`: I agree. I feel bad for VanessaE. She has put her heart and soul into these mods, and for the longest time, there seemed nothing wrong with them |
| 13:06 |
Fritigern |
Hmmm. I should have a look at you rlog again then |
| 13:06 |
n4x |
I want a programmable calculator |
| 13:06 |
Fritigern |
Ah, i see now! |
| 13:07 |
n4x |
but a decent one is really expensive ;_; |
| 13:07 |
n4x |
(and a not-that-decent, still expensive) |
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Fritigern |
n4x: get a child. You can program him/her and you can have him/her do your math for you. Bam! |
| 13:07 |
kilbith |
sfan5: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2014-11-19#i_4026366 |
| 13:07 |
kilbith |
thanks to do that |
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Zeno` |
Fritigern, I think most of them are easily fixed |
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Fritigern |
I think so too, but they also need to be fixed by the modders themselves., And that's the biggie |
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n4x |
Fritigern: I don't think that would work quite easily, based on the little fact that I am not even 18 |
| 13:08 |
Fritigern |
Not all modders are speedy when it comes to updating their mods and/or fixing brokenness |
| 13:08 |
Zeno` |
There actually isn't anything "wrong" with them now either; they just pollute the global namespace which can be an issue |
| 13:09 |
Fritigern |
n4x, i lost my viginity at age 15. I may or may not have fathersed several children between age 15 and age 17... |
| 13:09 |
Zeno` |
Fritigern, that's why I said that my personal opinion is that it should have been delayed to 0.5.0, but we need to deal with the hand we're dealt :) |
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| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
It's there now and it's not the end of the world. I guess some older mods are going to take time to catch up though :/ |
| 13:10 |
Fritigern |
Zeno`: I do agree that this is not a very good time to have MT do this. We're very close to 4.11, i see no reason why it had to be committed NOW |
| 13:10 |
n4x |
it is a nice way to force modders to write a little better code |
| 13:10 |
Fritigern |
There was no urgency, it was not as if not having this commit would have ben a show stopper |
| 13:11 |
Fritigern |
It is, but it did not have to be added to MT now. Now is a very bvery bad time and there are other, bigger issues than pollutedd namespaces |
| 13:11 |
Megaf |
I will report on mesegates too |
| 13:12 |
Zeno` |
Yep, I agree, but there is not point dwelling on what might have been |
| 13:12 |
Zeno` |
no point* |
| 13:12 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: I will also be submitting fixes, so that the modders do not have to go and hunt down everything themselves |
| 13:12 |
n4x |
for the 0.5.0 release, we'll have a little better quality on mods than we have now, hopefully |
| 13:13 |
n4x |
it isn't going to be magic that will convert ugly code into a beautiful beast |
| 13:13 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: ok, after I finish the reporting I will give you the links of my reports |
| 13:13 |
Megaf |
Most doesnt seem hard to fix |
| 13:13 |
Zeno` |
I think that most of the most popular mods only have minor issues with this anyway |
| 13:13 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: that was not what i meant. |
| 13:13 |
Zeno` |
although I don't actually know, I just suspect |
| 13:13 |
Megaf |
:P |
| 13:13 |
n4x |
if they had more than minor issues, someone should burn them away |
| 13:15 |
Megaf |
is Uberi still active? |
| 13:15 |
Megaf |
lots of open issues on world edit |
| 13:15 |
Megaf |
somebody may want to fork it and keep developing it |
| 13:15 |
Zeno` |
They were alive about a month ago when I reported an issue |
| 13:15 |
kaeza |
sfan_5 is active there |
| 13:16 |
Zeno` |
So is Uberi because they were the one who addressed my issue |
| 13:16 |
kaeza |
oh wait, I was thinking about Jeija |
| 13:17 |
PenguinDad |
kaeza: y u no zero-width space? |
| 13:17 |
* Zeno` |
banishes kaeza to the naughty corner |
| 13:17 |
kaeza |
PenguinDad |
| 13:17 |
kaeza |
did that work? |
| 13:18 |
kaeza |
Zeno`, :( |
| 13:18 |
PenguinDad |
kae​za: nope |
| 13:18 |
Zeno` |
ok I relent. you may leave the naughty corner |
| 13:23 |
Megaf |
lol, the very first issue on mesegates. https://github.com/asiekierka/mesegates/issues/1 |
| 13:24 |
Megaf |
In my opinion mesegates was perfect |
| 13:24 |
Megaf |
I have never had any problem with mods from asie |
| 13:24 |
Megaf |
!seen asie |
| 13:24 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: asie was last seen at 2014-11-03 14:31:52 UTC on #minetest |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
only three warnings on mesecons, https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues |
| 13:27 |
Megaf |
!tell Calinou Hi there, some warnings on moreblocks. http://paste.debian.net/plain/132623 |
| 13:27 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around |
| 13:27 |
Megaf |
!seen Uberi |
| 13:27 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: uberi was last seen at 2013-12-11 21:01:44 UTC on #minetest |
| 13:31 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: Zeno`: intlib is an undeclared global variavel in more than one mod |
| 13:31 |
Megaf |
on unified_inventory and on moreblocks |
| 13:31 |
Megaf |
I don't understand that |
| 13:32 |
Zeno` |
a variegravel? |
| 13:32 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: Here is the post that i just made in the plantlife topic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3898&p=162396#p162396 |
| 13:33 |
kaeza |
Megaf, can you post some such warning? |
| 13:33 |
Fritigern |
kaeza: This is Megaf's log : http://paste.debian.net/plain/132623 |
| 13:33 |
kaeza |
nevermind |
| 13:34 |
Fritigern |
LOL! One second apart :-) |
| 13:34 |
kaeza |
yeah, just seen that link |
| 13:34 |
Megaf |
kaeza: https://github.com/Megaf?tab=activity |
| 13:35 |
Megaf |
I believed I reported all warning but plantlife that Fritigern is working on and moreblocks where I sent a memo to Calinou |
| 13:35 |
kaeza |
... |
| 13:35 |
kaeza |
this is due to the change in intllib scheme |
| 13:36 |
Fritigern |
Hmmm bushes didn;t like my changes. Of course it shows the issue AFTER i posted the message.... |
| 13:36 |
kaeza |
the old way worked fine... WHY SN WHY?? |
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Megaf |
Fritigern: that happens to me all the time |
| 13:38 |
Fritigern |
Looks like the global is supposed to be an actual globbal in this case..... |
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Megaf |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/19#issuecomment-63809813 |
| 13:53 |
Megaf |
gtg |
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Fritigern |
I have edited my post again, i made a big mistake when fixing the bushes mod. Also added a bit more info for the readers. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3898&p=162396#p162396 |
| 14:10 |
Fritigern |
And why am i doing this? Because i hate complaining about stuff not working without being able to suggest a solution. |
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| 14:25 |
Zeno` |
:) |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
Does anyone know who KodexKy is? |
| 14:29 |
Fritigern |
Never heard of him/her |
| 14:30 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: a contributor to minetest ;) |
| 14:30 |
Fritigern |
OKay, i am a sleepy friti, i will tackle the issues with mg after i wake up |
| 14:31 |
* Fritigern |
waves! |
| 14:31 |
kaeza |
away nicks kill :( |
| 14:32 |
kaeza |
won't anybody think of the children?? |
| 14:32 |
* PenguinDad |
gets noscoped by aw​ay nicks |
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| 14:33 |
Zeno` |
PenguinDad, I knew I'd heard of them! |
| 14:34 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
| 14:37 |
shadowzone |
huh? |
| 14:39 |
Zeno` |
huh? |
| 14:39 |
PenguinDad |
?huh |
| 14:40 |
shadowzone |
<kaeza> won't anybody think of the children?? |
| 14:40 |
Zeno` |
I'm more concerned about the insane |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
like |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
me |
| 14:41 |
shadowzone |
Oh.. |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
won't anyone think of the zenos? |
| 14:41 |
PenguinDad |
and me |
| 14:41 |
ElectronLibre |
Won't anyone think of the penguins?! :'( |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
poor penguins :( |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
let's start a website |
| 14:42 |
* PenguinDad |
is 50% penguin and 50% cat :3 |
| 14:42 |
Zeno` |
< errr what goes after < at the top of html? |
| 14:42 |
Zeno` |
this might take a while |
| 14:43 |
ElectronLibre |
Zeno`, I've never been able to remember what there was after and in the html tag.. |
| 14:43 |
Zeno` |
I will develop the website using LibreOffice and export to HTML then |
| 14:44 |
ElectronLibre |
Good idea. I didn't even know LibreOffice could do that. |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
I don't know either |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
so it could take even longer than I thought |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
oh dear |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
I don't even have libreoffice installed |
| 14:45 |
* PenguinDad |
meows at Zeno` |
| 14:45 |
* Zeno` |
purrs? |
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* ElectronLibre |
give Zeno` LibreOffice packages. |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
spy! |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
sssshhhhhhhhhh |
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| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
another spy! |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
somespy_irc, hi |
| 14:46 |
someguy_irc |
O_O |
| 14:46 |
someguy_irc |
Hi. |
| 14:47 |
someguy_irc |
Zenie |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
you have very large eyes |
| 14:47 |
someguy_irc |
"O_O" |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
lol, don't call be zenie :P Only chubbs can call me that :p |
| 14:47 |
someguy_irc |
No. |
| 14:47 |
someguy_irc |
I can too. |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
grrr |
| 14:47 |
someguy_irc |
wish I would get a new graphics card on my birthday. ._. |
| 14:47 |
shadowzone |
His nickname from me is REALLY mean |
| 14:48 |
Zeno` |
shadowzone? |
| 14:48 |
shadowzone |
Zenie wenie remember? |
| 14:48 |
someguy_irc |
O_o |
| 14:48 |
PenguinDad |
shaderzone :P |
| 14:48 |
Zeno` |
I must have gone into shock and my memory erased it |
| 14:48 |
someguy_irc |
^ |
| 14:48 |
someguy_irc |
lol |
| 14:49 |
Zeno` |
zenie wenie?! |
| 14:49 |
someguy_irc |
penguine Daddy? |
| 14:49 |
someguy_irc |
lol |
| 14:49 |
someguy_irc |
stupid mc launcher.. |
| 14:49 |
Zeno` |
you call me that shadowzone? |
| 14:49 |
shadowzone |
Yep |
| 14:49 |
shadowzone |
Lol |
| 14:50 |
shadowzone |
My MC launcher works just fine |
| 14:50 |
someguy_irc |
the item drops in mc update is MESSED up. :P good thing MT dosent fully have it yet |
| 14:50 |
Zeno` |
ok, I like that |
| 14:50 |
Zeno` |
you may call me that shadowzone |
| 14:50 |
shadowzone |
Lol |
| 14:50 |
someguy_irc |
Zeno is the common anglicised form of the Greek name Zenon (Ζήνων), derived from the theonym Zeus. It may refer to: Contents. 1 Historical people. |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
source :Wikipedia |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
Thanks someguy_irc |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
:P |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
No prob, Ζήνων |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
I am an ancient greek zenie wenie it seems |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
Sort of |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
lo |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
l* |
| 14:51 |
someguy_irc |
dang |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
:-o |
| 14:52 |
Zeno` |
is motion possible? |
| 14:52 |
someguy_irc |
idk |
| 14:52 |
Zeno` |
Maybe one of my paradoxes addresses that issue |
| 14:52 |
someguy_irc |
you are Zeno of MT or, Zeno of elsa? |
| 14:53 |
n4x |
Elsa of Frozen |
| 14:53 |
someguy_irc |
No. |
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someguy_irc |
the snowman? |
| 14:53 |
n4x |
Elsa is the queen |
| 14:53 |
n4x |
Anna the princess |
| 14:53 |
someguy_irc |
Zeno` a request.. |
| 14:53 |
n4x |
Olaf the snowman |
| 14:53 |
someguy_irc |
ik |
| 14:53 |
Zeno` |
Believe it or not I am Zeno of Elea and I was born in 491BC |
| 14:53 |
someguy_irc |
im reffering Zeno` as the snowman |
| 14:53 |
someguy_irc |
Yeah Elea* |
| 14:54 |
someguy_irc |
I closed chrome tab |
| 14:54 |
someguy_irc |
v.v |
| 14:54 |
someguy_irc |
Zeno`, are you thinking of enabling snow in MTZ, in Christmas? |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
no |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
Should I? |
| 14:55 |
someguy_irc |
YES |
| 14:55 |
someguy_irc |
:P |
| 14:55 |
twoelk |
Zeno`: ever tried http://kompozer.net/ for creating html? |
| 14:55 |
Zeno` |
twoelk, whoa! I'll have the website up in no time with this! |
| 14:56 |
someguy_irc |
yew. |
| 14:56 |
twoelk |
writes better code that any OpenOfficeDerivat in my opinion |
| 14:56 |
someguy_irc |
I like notepad++ more then that. |
| 14:56 |
Zeno` |
even staroffice? |
| 14:56 |
someguy_irc |
I may change my mind if I use it. |
| 14:56 |
twoelk |
I use both |
| 14:56 |
someguy_irc |
it has ftp so Im thinking to use it with my sites. |
| 14:57 |
someguy_irc |
hmmmmm. |
| 14:57 |
PenguinDad |
I prefer butterflies for that :P |
| 14:57 |
someguy_irc |
or/ sublime text |
| 14:57 |
twoelk |
Kompzer for the quick and dirty and some notepad for the tweaks |
| 14:57 |
Zeno` |
someguy_irc, what's wrong with vim? |
| 14:57 |
someguy_irc |
vim? |
| 14:58 |
Zeno` |
yeah, all the cool kids use it |
| 14:58 |
someguy_irc |
? |
| 14:58 |
Zeno` |
you really want me to google it for you? |
| 14:58 |
someguy_irc |
KompoZer is a complete web authoring system that combines web file management and easy-to-use WYSIWYG web page editing. |
| 14:58 |
someguy_irc |
No I don't want to know |
| 14:59 |
twoelk |
I#ve got all my stuff hooked with Notepad++ now so I wont change without good reason |
| 14:59 |
someguy_irc |
I like making apps/sites from scratch insted of Using a WYSIWYG.. |
| 14:59 |
twoelk |
Development on Kompozer on the other hand seems to twindle out - sadly |
| 14:59 |
* shadowzone |
watches google chrome downloading |
| 14:59 |
someguy_irc |
well I don't like it now. |
| 14:59 |
someguy_irc |
shadowzone, +1 |
| 14:59 |
shadowzone |
huh? |
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someguy_irc |
http://www.vim.org/ |
| 15:00 |
someguy_irc |
huh. |
| 15:00 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: http://xkcd.com/378/ :P |
| 15:01 |
someguy_irc |
A webcomic of romance, |
| 15:01 |
someguy_irc |
sarcasm, math, and language. |
| 15:01 |
someguy_irc |
lol |
| 15:01 |
someguy_irc |
nice |
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shadowzone |
Lol |
| 15:01 |
someguy_irc |
Real programmers use butterfly. |
| 15:01 |
someguy_irc |
haha funny. |
| 15:02 |
someguy_irc |
Errrr |
| 15:03 |
someguy_irc |
http://puu.sh/cYrWS/137b648ac0.jpg |
| 15:03 |
someguy_irc |
reference of np++ |
| 15:03 |
someguy_irc |
gah |
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twoelk |
except I never paid for np++ lol |
| 15:10 |
twoelk |
so if I paid nothing it might be exceptable if I get nothing |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello luizrpgluiz. |
| 15:17 |
Wayward_One |
Hey, can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/FYy1U8By |
| 15:19 |
luizrpgluiz |
would be possible to put in an implementation minetest as skins in multiplayer as it has in minecraft? eg in multiplayer can put your skin and look the other player custom skin instead of the default skin in the game |
| 15:20 |
* ElectronLibre |
gives luizrpgluiz player_textures mod. |
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luizrpgluiz |
The mod did not work because it is old |
| 15:28 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh.. Did it crash the server? |
| 15:29 |
luizrpgluiz |
The mod is for older version of minetest, I will not download the older version does not |
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PenguinDad |
luizrpgluiz: player_textures still works on latest dev of minetest |
| 15:30 |
luizrpgluiz |
tell that to the crash that took the server |
| 15:30 |
PenguinDad |
luizrpgluiz: any error message? |
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luizrpgluiz |
init,lua |
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luizrpgluiz |
init.lua |
| 15:32 |
luizrpgluiz |
not have current version, the version here is 0.4.10 minetest |
| 15:33 |
ElectronLibre |
It's the current stable version there should be no problem. |
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luizrpgluiz |
here gave error |
| 15:34 |
luizrpgluiz |
even opening the command text |
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luizrpgluiz |
ie giving errors in text and graphical mode also |
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ElectronLibre |
Which error exactly? Can you send it us with a paste (like on pastie.org)? |
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luizrpgluiz |
eu vou mandar uma imagem |
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luizrpgluiz |
ops |
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Leoneof |
uhoooo! why i'm here? |
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luizrpgluiz |
I will send picture |
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luizrpgluiz |
anybody here speak Portuguese too? |
| 15:39 |
n4x |
I speak spanish, does it count? |
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AgentFire |
What does a water turbine do? |
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ElectronLibre |
It generates power, which is given to some mesecons wires. |
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AgentFire |
Ahh okay. One more question. |
| 15:42 |
AgentFire |
How do you make a level, two of the items in the recipe aren't showing |
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luizrpgluiz |
I must be the only one who speaks Portuguese here in the group |
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kilbith |
Megaf speaks portuguese |
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luizrpgluiz |
I wanted the minetest had the system and login as mudaça skins in minecraft. |
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luizrpgluiz |
ops |
| 15:51 |
luizrpgluiz |
hehe |
| 15:51 |
luizrpgluiz |
I wanted the minetest had a login system and changing skins as in minecraft. |
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someguy_irc |
luizrpgluiz, I had the same idea. |
| 15:54 |
luizrpgluiz |
XD |
| 15:54 |
someguy_irc |
having a database online with the skins linked to specific accounts, when logged in will load the texture's from That |
| 15:54 |
someguy_irc |
I had this dream Way long time ago. |
| 15:54 |
luizrpgluiz |
but no developer has heard or answered on IRC development |
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someguy_irc |
idk., |
| 15:55 |
n4x |
that sounds cool for a mod |
| 15:55 |
someguy_irc |
too stupid? |
| 15:55 |
someguy_irc |
Yep defenetly |
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someguy_irc |
or a new "client..." |
| 15:55 |
n4x |
not for the game itself |
| 15:55 |
Zeno` |
yeah we don't like speaking |
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n4x |
nah someguy_irc |
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someguy_irc |
which already has the login system |
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someguy_irc |
insted of each servers storing out passwords. |
| 15:55 |
someguy_irc |
lo |
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someguy_irc |
server* |
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someguy_irc |
dang |
| 15:56 |
Zeno` |
I've actually heard that he devs cannot type! |
| 15:56 |
someguy_irc |
k brb |
| 15:56 |
Zeno` |
Sad, but true :( |
| 15:56 |
someguy_irc |
making redstone inventions |
| 15:56 |
someguy_irc |
that are Massively useless ;) |
| 15:57 |
marktraceur |
> he devs cannot type |
| 15:57 |
marktraceur |
gj Zeno` |
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luizrpgluiz |
would be good to change the client's minetest and take tests, the database can be the forum minetest own and there could use their own servers to authenticate the login and woe connect the skin to her doll |
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someguy_irc |
hmm.. |
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marktraceur |
luizrpgluiz: Centralization is a bristle-inducing subject around this kind of project, though |
| 16:04 |
luizrpgluiz |
but it would be very good players for us, although the client could be changed to make this system as it has in minecraft |
| 16:04 |
marktraceur |
luizrpgluiz: A server could definitely do this, but having it be the forums is unlikely |
| 16:04 |
marktraceur |
luizrpgluiz: And Minetest isn't a Minecraft clone :) |
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luizrpgluiz |
I know, but think a bit, the database server of the forum can be used to login minetest system, if that changes the game client |
| 16:07 |
someguy_irc |
luizrpgluiz, I never seen someone soo passionate on a topic |
| 16:07 |
someguy_irc |
good luck. |
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| 16:08 |
luizrpgluiz |
XD |
| 16:08 |
someguy_irc |
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/independent/ :) |
| 16:12 |
marktraceur |
luizrpgluiz: I guarantee you nobody will use that |
| 16:12 |
marktraceur |
luizrpgluiz: If minetest core implemented that, someone would fork and remove the login system, and everyone would use that client instead. |
| 16:13 |
marktraceur |
I'm sure as hell not logging into the minetest forums to play a local game |
| 16:13 |
someguy_irc |
who said about local sp? |
| 16:13 |
luizrpgluiz |
then it would be good to implement this |
| 16:13 |
marktraceur |
someguy_irc: I didn't say single-player |
| 16:13 |
someguy_irc |
Hmm oh I get it now |
| 16:14 |
marktraceur |
someguy_irc: I have a server on my desktop, I use clients on my desktop and my laptop to play on my LAN. |
| 16:14 |
someguy_irc |
Hmmm., |
| 16:14 |
marktraceur |
Not only would players have to implicitly trust a forum software they don't necessarily know to play the game, the server hosts would have to do the same, and security wouldn't necessarily be served |
| 16:14 |
marktraceur |
luizrpgluiz: How do you figure? |
| 16:15 |
luizrpgluiz |
yes, but everyone gets sick of wearing the same skin in multiplayer |
| 16:15 |
marktraceur |
I don't |
| 16:15 |
someguy_irc |
both of your decision have pro's and cons. |
| 16:15 |
marktraceur |
And there are ways to solve that that aren't centralized. |
| 16:15 |
someguy_irc |
or thoughts* |
| 16:15 |
luizrpgluiz |
I use the default skin minetest |
| 16:16 |
freelikegnu |
ingame skin browser? |
| 16:17 |
luizrpgluiz |
I wish there was a way to use my modified skin in multiplayer without having to install outdated multiplayer mods |
| 16:18 |
someguy_irc |
I don't understand what you are talking about? |
| 16:19 |
marktraceur |
There's a player skins mod that has skins for specific players |
| 16:19 |
marktraceur |
And you can add them yourself |
| 16:19 |
someguy_irc |
^ |
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| 16:19 |
freelikegnu |
would be cool to "craft" a skin like having features like eye type, hair type, mouth type to craft a face block |
| 16:19 |
marktraceur |
But it's server-side and hard to update |
| 16:19 |
someguy_irc |
freelikegnu, thats just... |
| 16:19 |
someguy_irc |
:P you know. |
| 16:19 |
freelikegnu |
silly? |
| 16:19 |
marktraceur |
freelikegnu: Not sure that would work...I think skins are loaded on server start |
| 16:19 |
someguy_irc |
yes. |
| 16:19 |
luizrpgluiz |
I do not want to have to install mods that change the skin in multiplayer for me to see the same skin minetest |
| 16:19 |
someguy_irc |
marktraceur, no. |
| 16:19 |
freelikegnu |
well armor can be put on in game |
| 16:20 |
someguy_irc |
marktraceur, there is a skin chooser mod |
| 16:20 |
freelikegnu |
would not a similar system work? |
| 16:20 |
someguy_irc |
Idk |
| 16:20 |
marktraceur |
someguy_irc: Chooser, yes, but those skins are probably all loaded already |
| 16:20 |
someguy_irc |
Actually yes. |
| 16:20 |
someguy_irc |
a "database" |
| 16:20 |
marktraceur |
Creating new skins in-game wouldn't work |
| 16:20 |
someguy_irc |
^ |
| 16:20 |
luizrpgluiz |
I do not want to have to install mods that change the skin in multiplayer for me to see the same skin minetest |
| 16:21 |
marktraceur |
Unless you loaded *every possible combination* |
| 16:21 |
someguy_irc |
well Im off to redstone'in again brb |
| 16:21 |
freelikegnu |
with armor you can create many combinations for what you body looks like from just a few sets |
| 16:22 |
someguy_irc |
he means infinity... |
| 16:22 |
someguy_irc |
dang it |
| 16:22 |
someguy_irc |
._. |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
someguy_irc, there aren't infinite combinations |
| 16:24 |
someguy_irc |
Jordach, hmmmm |
| 16:25 |
Amaz |
Not possible. |
| 16:25 |
* Jordach |
loves his shiny new GPU |
| 16:25 |
freelikegnu |
8 sets for 4 body parts is 4096 possible combinations already |
| 16:26 |
someguy_irc |
Jordach, ik |
| 16:26 |
someguy_irc |
freelikegnu, thats just |
| 16:26 |
someguy_irc |
you know/ |
| 16:26 |
someguy_irc |
would take ages to code that. |
| 16:27 |
PenguinDad |
and it would take ages to download all these skins |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
PenguinDad, nope |
| 16:27 |
freelikegnu |
I think most of the code is in place |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
texture1.png^texture2.png |
| 16:27 |
someguy_irc |
idk. |
| 16:27 |
freelikegnu |
it would be 32 textures to download for the 8 sets |
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| 16:28 |
freelikegnu |
maybe less |
| 16:28 |
freelikegnu |
if all parts of a set are on the same png |
| 16:28 |
someguy_irc |
thats gonna take a long time. |
| 16:28 |
someguy_irc |
to "craft" the perfect skin. |
| 16:30 |
freelikegnu |
dave, this conversation can serve no further purpose |
| 16:30 |
marktraceur |
Fewer* |
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| 16:36 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 16:37 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello Megaf. |
| 16:37 |
Megaf |
Is there a magical way to rebase? |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
good morning. (before you ask, I already fixed those "undeclared glocal" warnings in homedecor and plantlife) |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
global* |
| 16:38 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello VanessaE :). Megaf : git rebase :/ |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
whose ass do I need to kick for making me do all that extra work? |
| 16:38 |
* VanessaE |
looks at ShadowNinja and Fritigern_AFK |
| 16:38 |
AgentFire |
Me |
| 16:38 |
AgentFire |
I make everybody do extra work |
| 16:38 |
AgentFire |
It's my nature |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
(actually to be fair, those were legit bugs :P ) |
| 16:39 |
someguy_irc |
VanessaE, isnt saying "buttocks" in that way considered cussing* ? |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
someguy_irc: This is freenode. this network and channel does not have a language rule like on Inchra. |
| 16:39 |
someguy_irc |
oh ok |
| 16:39 |
marktraceur |
#fuckcensorship |
| 16:39 |
marktraceur |
:) |
| 16:39 |
someguy_irc |
well ill stick with my non-swearing attitude. |
| 16:40 |
AgentFire |
Wait, so I can go fuckshitassbitchtitspussy and be alright? |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: indeed; on inchra we keep it family-friendly because there are so many kids around over there. |
| 16:40 |
marktraceur |
AgentFire: No |
| 16:40 |
marktraceur |
You have herpes now |
| 16:40 |
someguy_irc |
^ |
| 16:40 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: You're welcome. :-) |
| 16:40 |
someguy_irc |
lol |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
AgentFire: well preferably as long as it's on-topic |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: you need to rate-limit the warning messages. |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: lol, thanks |
| 16:41 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: But then it would miss warnings. Maybe already_warned and "(additional accesses of this variable by this mod ignored)" |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
something like that maybe |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
I forgot to open issues on 3D armor |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
folks were saying that those warnings from plants_lib were flooding their logs |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: they are indeed |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: *were |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
was that fixed already? |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
Im not even sure if that is an actual bug |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
the issues reported against homedecor/fake_fire and plantlife were yeah |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, idling at 26c over here |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
I pushed fixes for those before I signed on |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
nice and cool |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: cool, I will update right now |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: are we talking about temperatures? |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
Physical id 0: +63.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
Core 0: +59.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
Core 1: +63.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) |
| 16:44 |
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| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: nice. |
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| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: that are 3 lines |
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n4x |
>60C |
| 16:45 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: And it was a paste flood. |
| 16:45 |
sfan5 |
no it was not |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: I got 4 lines, all at once. |
| 16:45 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: So you typed all of those out? |
| 16:45 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:45 |
sfan5 |
i typed the first one |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: still have these |
| 16:45 |
sfan5 |
and pasted 3 lines |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
11:45:09: WARNING: Assignment to undeclared global "node2" inside a function at ...etest/Server/bin/../mods/plantlife/trunks/generating.lua:4. |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
11:45:09: WARNING: Assignment to undeclared global "node" inside a function at ...etest/Server/bin/../mods/plantlife/trunks/generating.lua:5. |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: ok. |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
I'll fix that now |
| 16:46 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: The timestamps are the same for four of your messages here, and it just kicked you, so it's not a huge deal. |
| 16:46 |
sfan5 |
!kick ShadowNinja no, it's not annoying at all. see? |
| 16:46 |
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ShadowNinja was kicked by MinetestBot: no, it's not annoying at all. see? |
| 16:47 |
Megaf |
All other things seem to be fixed indeed, no moretrees, plantlifes nor homedecor error besides these two |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: fixed. d6e9d0a |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: you might want to revert that, Im not actually using your mushrooms mod |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
sorry |
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| 16:49 |
Megaf |
or am I? |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
ehm, trunks is unrelated to mushrooms :P |
| 16:49 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: I didn't say it wasn't annoying. |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
oh, nevermind then |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
[...]it just kicked you, so it's not a huge deal. |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
trunks fixed indeed |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
thats basically equivalent |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
and besides, it was a bug anyway |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
anyway |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
see my msg in -staff |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
11:48:17: WARNING: Assignment to undeclared global "node2" inside a function at /home/minetest/Server/bin/../mods/mushroom/compat.lua:3. |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
11:48:17: WARNING: Assignment to undeclared global "node" inside a function at /home/minetest/Server/bin/../mods/mushroom/compat.lua:4. |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
that's outdated. |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
This is mushroom before being included in plantlife |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
lemme check the one in plantlife |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
yep, but if I use the new mushrooms mod all my mushroom will turn into pink nodes... |
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VanessaE |
the one in plantlife doesn't have that piece of code |
| 16:51 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 16:51 |
Megaf |
Hi ruben! |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: the node names in plantlife's mushroom mod are the same as the ones in Dan's old, separate mod |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
so you're mixing them up with some other, same-named mod. |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
let me check |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
of course, the one in plantlife doesn't have those stupid, gigantic ones that the separate mod has. |
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VanessaE |
(they're implemented poorly imho. sorry Dan) |
| 16:53 |
coagen |
hallow folks! |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
Hi there |
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Megaf |
ElectronLibre: it wont be so simple here |
| 17:04 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: I had a minetest for where I changed stuff |
| 17:04 |
Megaf |
then I submited a pull request |
| 17:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, and? |
| 17:04 |
Megaf |
now my pull request can be accepted if I rebase it |
| 17:04 |
Megaf |
but I no longer have the minetest fork |
| 17:05 |
ElectronLibre |
:/ |
| 17:05 |
ElectronLibre |
The only way to rebase it is to do it from the original fork I suppose.. try to clone and rebase again.. :/ |
| 17:05 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: I guess I will have to change it again and create another pull request |
| 17:05 |
ElectronLibre |
I hope not :/ |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
im trying to clone my fork here, but sometimes github is so slow... |
| 17:07 |
Megaf |
and to make things worse, Im running out of battery |
| 17:07 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf: 25 kbyte/s is slow? :P |
| 17:08 |
Megaf |
13KB/s here |
| 17:09 |
ElectronLibre |
15Kb/s :D. |
| 17:09 |
ElectronLibre |
I've finally found someone with a connection slower in downloading than mine is.. |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
cool, global slowness |
| 17:10 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: from debian repos Im downloading at avarage of 130 KB/s |
| 17:10 |
Megaf |
GIT is 47 KB/s now yay! o/ |
| 17:10 |
ElectronLibre |
You broke my dreams. |
| 17:11 |
* ElectronLibre |
is now under the rain. |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: usually my internet is as fast as yours, dont worry :D |
| 17:12 |
Megaf |
lol, Im running out of battery on my laptop and on my phone that Im using to tether the connection, Im so screwed |
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Megaf |
ElectronLibre: ok, how do I apply my pull request to my fork? |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
12 mbps! |
| 17:17 |
Megaf |
one way is doenloading the patch |
| 17:17 |
Megaf |
downloading* |
| 17:18 |
Megaf |
any other way? |
| 17:18 |
ElectronLibre |
Have you git rebase-ed your fork's clone? |
| 17:18 |
n4x |
ElectronLibre: how fast is your network? |
| 17:18 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: I made a new fork/clone |
| 17:18 |
Megaf |
I dont have that fork anymore, I removed it from github |
| 17:18 |
ElectronLibre |
n4x, 15Kb/s down, 5Kb/s up. |
| 17:19 |
n4x |
that sounds so 128kbps, 64kbps |
| 17:19 |
n4x |
well, sorry |
| 17:19 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok Megaf, you're gonna have to download the patch from your pull-request I think.. and then put the modifications into your new fork. |
| 17:19 |
n4x |
my network is like 256kbps/256kbps |
| 17:19 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: ok, I have the .patch file, How do I apply it? |
| 17:20 |
n4x |
git apply |
| 17:20 |
n4x |
git am? |
| 17:20 |
Megaf |
I would google stuff if I had more power |
| 17:20 |
ElectronLibre |
I don't know.. I think you have to exctract the code.. How many files did you changed? |
| 17:21 |
Megaf |
I will just do stuff by hand |
| 17:21 |
PenguinDad |
n4x: my network is like 200kbps/400kbps |
| 17:21 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: three files |
| 17:21 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, how many lines? |
| 17:21 |
ElectronLibre |
Because the only way I see is redo it.. |
| 17:22 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1648/files |
| 17:22 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: ^ |
| 17:26 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: edited |
| 17:26 |
Megaf |
done |
| 17:27 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, new pull now I suppose :s... |
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Megaf |
ElectronLibre: :D https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1854 |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
My my battery can die in peace |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
Now my* |
| 17:31 |
Megaf |
3%, about 7 minutes |
| 17:31 |
AgentFire |
Megaf: Do you have a server? |
| 17:31 |
* ElectronLibre |
gives Megaf a cookie as a reward for having rebased successfully. |
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DFeniks |
cant you put textures in layers for craftable skins ? 1 layer would only contain eyes everything else would be transparent on that layer . etc |
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* Jordach |
pokes Sokomine |
| 17:43 |
* Krock |
pokes Jordach |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
ya |
| 17:43 |
Krock |
ye! |
| 17:44 |
* PenguinDad |
wings Krock |
| 17:44 |
* Krock |
nods |
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btoothpick |
Greetings |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 17:56 |
Krock |
hi |
| 17:56 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello btoothpick. |
| 17:59 |
AgentFire |
I need help real quick |
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| 17:59 |
AgentFire |
Can somebody test to see if my server works? |
| 17:59 |
btoothpick |
link |
| 17:59 |
AgentFire |
174.100.77.236 Port's the default |
| 18:00 |
ElectronLibre |
!up 174.100.77.236 30000 |
| 18:00 |
MinetestBot |
174.100.77.236:30000 seems to be down |
| 18:00 |
btoothpick |
agreed |
| 18:00 |
AgentFire |
Dang |
| 18:00 |
* ElectronLibre |
gives MinetestBot a cookie. |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
AgentFire, UDP, not TCP. |
| 18:01 |
AgentFire |
I had it on both |
| 18:07 |
* Jordach |
renders something using GPU Compute in Cycles |
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Megaf |
AgentFire: Yes I do |
| 18:44 |
Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
| 18:44 |
MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (717ms) |
| 18:44 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
| 18:44 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 4/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 38ms |
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freelikegnu |
!up freelikegnu.org 30020 |
| 18:47 |
MinetestBot |
freelikegnu.org:30020 is up (4998ms) |
| 18:47 |
freelikegnu |
!server freelikegnu |
| 18:47 |
MinetestBot |
freelikegnu: No results |
| 18:47 |
Megaf |
freelikegnu: try doing !up replacing domain name by IP |
| 18:48 |
PenguinDad |
!up 70.87.222.215 30020 |
| 18:48 |
MinetestBot |
70.87.222.215:30020 is up (116ms) |
| 18:48 |
PenguinDad |
much nicer ping now |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
http://www.labri.fr/perso/nrougier/images/BabyGnu.png |
| 18:54 |
freelikegnu |
!server |
| 18:54 |
MinetestBot |
freelikegnu: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 652ms |
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Megaf |
Krock: I find that scary |
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hisforever |
Hi how do run the car mod? |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
which car mod? |
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hisforever |
didn't know there were other car modes |
| 19:03 |
hisforever |
I'll get the url for you |
| 19:05 |
hisforever |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7381 there's the url |
| 19:06 |
Krock |
just put it inside mods\ and enable it.. |
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freelikegnu |
where do I put a nice name and description from my servers? |
| 19:09 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L262 |
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freelikegnu |
many thanks |
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Krock |
did you really mean that one? I think you already found server_anounce |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/9102608/ |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
also performance settings |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
time send interval is ok at 20s |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
no need to re-send it all 1 |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
0s |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
what if /time is used? |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
or clients lag greatly |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
that won't solve lag |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
also, line 9 can be increased to 30 without problems IMO |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
big saves may impact server performance more |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
causing lag peaks |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
I'm not getting any problems with 180s :3 |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
as long the server doesn't crash |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
then you lose 3 minutes of work |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
which may be a lot if eg. 4 players mine in a quarry |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
you wasted 12 minutes of human time |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
Calinou, look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZZ7oFKsKzY and see what I mean |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
let's say 10'000 guys fully watched it. |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
!c 10000 * 10*60*60 |
| 19:18 |
MinetestBot |
360000000 |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
360'000'000 seconds |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
that's damn much wasted time |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
!c 360000000 / (24 * 60 * 60 * 365) |
| 19:19 |
MinetestBot |
11.415525114155251 |
| 19:20 |
rubenwardy |
11.4 years :O |
| 19:20 |
Krock |
yeah. |
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AgentFire |
Megaf: Does your server have travelnet? |
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hisforever |
I have the car mode active but where is it? |
| 19:43 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: this is wasted time :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3yXlomPCmU |
| 19:43 |
Krock |
PenguinDad +1 |
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Megaf |
AgentFire: it does |
| 19:46 |
Megaf |
and we use it a lot |
| 19:47 |
AgentFire |
Megaf: Isn't that such a great mod? |
| 19:47 |
Megaf |
AgentFire: we have mesecons, pipeworks, bees (with the thing that make it super slow disabled), darkage (with its mapgen now disabled too, to make it faster) |
| 19:47 |
sol_invictus |
PenguinDad: lol. this is windows in a nutshell |
| 19:48 |
AgentFire |
Ahh, I'm going to have to come then. Although, it won't be fun working my way up to a Travelnet Station |
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Megaf |
AgentFire: there is one admin online now, if you join soon we can give you interact |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
PenguinDad: you should play on my server =/ |
| 19:55 |
AgentFire |
Megaf: Give me about five minutes. I'm on another server and my friend just came on |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
ask him to migrate to my server |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
xP |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
Just joking, feel free to play wherever you'd like |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
but me sure to test other servers |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
the LinuxGaming.us is another cool server |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
!up linuxgaming.us |
| 19:56 |
MinetestBot |
linuxgaming.us:30000 is up (310ms) |
| 20:04 |
btoothpick |
Well, today was the first test the windows 2008 server had and we reached a capacity of 15 users...there was quite a bit of lag. |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
windows sucks for servers |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
and for dekstop too |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
and so for mobiles |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
and tablets |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
and laptops |
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ElectronLibre |
And quite everything. |
| 20:06 |
btoothpick |
I'm wonder if I create a virtual machine on the windows 8 server unning linlux if it would run better |
| 20:06 |
ElectronLibre |
What was exactly the purpose of this test? |
| 20:06 |
btoothpick |
Better than my typing. |
| 20:07 |
btoothpick |
Just to show the students the program, and allow them the opportunity to explore a bit. If they show futher interest they can go on at home or during a future gaming club that should start in January. |
| 20:08 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. How old are they (in average)? |
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btoothpick |
This group was 12-14 |
| 20:10 |
btoothpick |
However, I have a number of 5-7 that play too. |
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ElectronLibre |
Ok. Good. |
| 20:11 |
ElectronLibre |
I don't know if a linux virtual machine could be better, it depends on a lot of things, but you can try. |
| 20:11 |
btoothpick |
Do you know how many clients the public servers usually accomodate? |
| 20:12 |
btoothpick |
I want the experience to be positive if the students start using this from home. |
| 20:12 |
btoothpick |
Up until today there has never been more than 4 clients. |
| 20:13 |
ElectronLibre |
I see. So the results are good for the moment? |
| 20:13 |
freelikegnu |
more_chests looks cool Megaf |
| 20:14 |
freelikegnu |
though I am not currently using pipeworks |
| 20:14 |
Megaf |
freelikegnu: Its not my idea nor my code. I just got an abandoned mod and updated it |
| 20:14 |
Megaf |
but yes, its a fantastic mod |
| 20:14 |
btoothpick |
Going to try these settings: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7879&hilit=server+speed |
| 20:14 |
Megaf |
I think Calinou did the first more_chest, maybe |
| 20:15 |
freelikegnu |
too bad its not part of carbone |
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Megaf |
freelikegnu: hm, it could be |
| 20:29 |
Megaf |
they have one mod from me, 3d armor |
| 20:30 |
Megaf |
oh, I almost reported a bug on 3d armor, totally forgot that I had forked it |
| 20:33 |
freelikegnu |
3d armor is cool too |
| 20:34 |
freelikegnu |
I'd like to use that to make some kind of custom skin crafting mod |
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mitrom |
Greetings |
| 20:48 |
Megaf |
I have no idea how to fix the mod tho |
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| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
~up shadowninja.minetest.net 30008 |
| 20:53 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: shadowninja.minetest.net port 30008 is up (312ms) |
| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
~up shadowninja.minetest.net 30008 |
| 20:53 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: shadowninja.minetest.net port 30008 is up (3ms) |
| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
3ms :-D |
| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
I've gotten 1ms. |
| 20:54 |
* Jordach |
has had -1ms |
| 20:56 |
ShadowNinja |
"Jeff Dean was forced to invent asynchronous APIs one day when he optimized a function so that it returned before it was invoked." |
| 20:56 |
ShadowNinja |
:-P |
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n4x |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJITidATnKM |
| 20:57 |
n4x |
this guy's voice isn't neat |
| 20:58 |
Megaf |
~up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
| 20:58 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: mt.megaf.info port 30003 is up (211ms) |
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Megaf |
~up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
| 20:58 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: mt.megaf.info port 30003 is up (114ms) |
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Megaf |
~up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
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Megaf was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected. |
| 20:58 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: mt.megaf.info port 30003 is up (132ms) |
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ElectronLibre |
ShadowBot, you don't need to answer him, you've just kicked Megaf.. |
| 20:58 |
Megaf |
I dont like that bot |
| 20:58 |
* ElectronLibre |
looks at ShadowNinja. >_> |
| 20:59 |
Megaf |
these bots will tell the name resolution time as ping |
| 20:59 |
Megaf |
thats totally wrong |
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n4x |
the case I bought only allows me to have six hdds |
| 20:59 |
n4x |
while my mobo supports 8 |
| 21:00 |
n4x |
so sad.. :P |
| 21:00 |
Megaf |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 21:00 |
MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (2ms) |
| 21:00 |
Megaf |
~up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 21:00 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: 178.79.130.6 port 30003 is up (112ms) |
| 21:00 |
Megaf |
see? |
| 21:00 |
Megaf |
that's the same server |
| 21:00 |
Megaf |
but bot's dns server is a crap |
| 21:01 |
* ShadowNinja |
fixes that... |
| 21:01 |
Megaf |
~up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 21:01 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: 178.79.130.6 port 30003 is up (114ms) |
| 21:02 |
Megaf |
actually theres no difference on ShadowBot |
| 21:02 |
Megaf |
interesting |
| 21:02 |
Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 21:02 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (656ms) |
| 21:02 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf: ShadowBot probably has got a better DNS sewer |
| 21:02 |
PenguinDad |
*server |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
or its smart enough to cache the IP |
| 21:03 |
Amaz |
Wow! The bot has it's own sewer! |
| 21:03 |
Amaz |
I wonder what purpose that serves... |
| 21:03 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 21:03 |
Amaz |
;P |
| 21:04 |
Megaf |
sfan5: I believe he is not fixing WorldEdit https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/issues/64#issuecomment-63864692 |
| 21:04 |
Megaf |
lmao Amaz |
| 21:04 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf: that's not a real bug |
| 21:04 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: not a bug, warning-on-accessing-undeclared-global is stupid |
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sfan5 |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 21:06 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (356ms) |
| 21:06 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
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Megaf |
sfan5: yet, if you !up it's actual IP you get a totally different result |
| 21:09 |
sfan5 |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 21:09 |
MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (2ms) |
| 21:09 |
sfan5 |
I'm working on fixing it |
| 21:10 |
Megaf |
ok |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
sfan5, I disagree: access to "undeclared" globals can be troublesome if you do things like `register_whatever({ foo=some_global })` |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
`foo` will inadvertently get assigned `nil` |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
and the bug may go unnoticed for a long time |
| 21:11 |
sfan5 |
I'm not wanting to remove this |
| 21:11 |
sfan5 |
but just add a setting |
| 21:11 |
sfan5 |
the ordinary user does not care about why some mod might be broken |
| 21:11 |
kaeza |
I can agree with that |
| 21:11 |
PenguinDad |
a setting which of course nobody ever enables |
| 21:12 |
sfan5 |
the modders should |
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marioxcc |
Hello |
| 21:13 |
marioxcc |
Hello. What's the recommended way to do log rotation of minetest? |
| 21:13 |
ShadowNinja |
Megaf: Should be fixed now. |
| 21:13 |
sfan5 |
I never heard of anyone wanting to do that |
| 21:13 |
sfan5 |
just use logrotated |
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marioxcc |
sfan5: Does minetest works properly with logrotate? |
| 21:14 |
sfan5 |
probably |
| 21:15 |
sfan5 |
as long as minetestserver isn't running when logrotate rotates the logs |
| 21:15 |
est31 |
hi everybody, there is a mem leak (massive one), how can I detect it? |
| 21:15 |
est31 |
valgrind makes MT sloooooooow |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
est31: valgrind makes everything slooooooooew |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
-e |
| 21:17 |
Megaf |
est31: there are at least two memory leaks :P |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
but they dont happen all the time |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
ShadowNinja: fixed what exactely? |
| 21:19 |
est31 |
VanessaE: what does -e help? exit at zero? |
| 21:19 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
| 21:20 |
Megaf |
lol |
| 21:20 |
Megaf |
est31: she misspelled slooooow, adding an e |
| 21:20 |
est31 |
ok |
| 21:20 |
Megaf |
so she wrote -e indicating the accident |
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VanessaE |
est31: it's a shorthand in IRC, it means "subtract the extra 'e' from my previous statement" |
| 21:23 |
freelikegnu |
marioxcc: I'm sturggling with minetestserver and logrotate myself |
| 21:24 |
freelikegnu |
log rotation works, but I dont have an elegant way to start and stop the multiple minetest servers I'm running |
| 21:24 |
est31 |
I know of s/ubstitute/substitute/, but -e is new |
| 21:24 |
* Megaf |
will just delete the log |
| 21:24 |
Megaf |
-e is shorter |
| 21:25 |
VanessaE |
I just delete old logs, no reason at all to rotate them. |
| 21:25 |
VanessaE |
not inetest logs that is |
| 21:25 |
VanessaE |
+m |
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marioxcc |
freelikegnu: If I had more time, I would make a small wrapper that is logrotate-aware, then pipe the minetest_server output to it. |
| 21:26 |
marioxcc |
VanessaE: well, log rotation don't means to use the old logs again, but to delete them. |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: no. |
| 21:26 |
freelikegnu |
welp, if I delete the log, a new one is created but nothing gets written into it until the server is restarted |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: log rotation means to move current logs into an archival storage. |
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freelikegnu |
log rotate cna delete and/or compress them too |
| 21:27 |
jin_xi |
and craft tables |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
normal behavior of log rotation in Linux anyway is to rename the current log, open a new file for new incoming entries, and compress the old file |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
I forget how long the old files are kept. several days I think. |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
or several reboots, rather |
| 21:28 |
freelikegnu |
first I have to convert the logs into planks before crafting tables |
| 21:28 |
freelikegnu |
iirc |
| 21:28 |
sfan5 |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 21:28 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (2ms) |
| 21:28 |
sfan5 |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 21:28 |
MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (4ms) |
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sfan5 |
/\ Megaf |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
Good |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
Thanks |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
!up linuxgamig.us |
| 21:29 |
MinetestBot |
linuxgamig.us:30000 seems to be down |
| 21:29 |
marioxcc |
freelikegnu: you should be aware that when moving a file, the file descriptors will point to the new file. So the program has to have some awareness of log rotation for it to work with the normal method. |
| 21:29 |
freelikegnu |
logrotate can be configure to rotate for any period, days weeks, months, size as well I think |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
!up linuxgaming.us |
| 21:29 |
MinetestBot |
linuxgaming.us:30000 is up (97ms) |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
much better |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
sfan5: now the http://servers.minetest.net/ should be updated |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: I told you, shut down your server nightly for backups and do your log rotation then |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
if you don't, you fail as a minetest server admin. |
| 21:30 |
freelikegnu |
heh |
| 21:30 |
freelikegnu |
I suppose thats how it should really be done |
| 21:30 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: create an issue at https://github.com/minetest/master-server |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
(unless you're running on a filesystem that supports taking live snapshots) |
| 21:31 |
* Megaf |
shutdown its server daily, no nighly, I have failed! Oh no! |
| 21:31 |
freelikegnu |
or have international guests who are on during your local night |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
freelikegnu: do it anyway. they'll learn what 5-minute period to avoid :P |
| 21:35 |
Megaf |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (2ms) |
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Megaf |
https://github.com/minetest/master-server/issues/4 |
| 21:40 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 21:40 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: The master server will include DNS resolution time when showing "ping" time. · Issue #4 · minetest/master-server · GitHub |
| 21:40 |
Megaf |
^ sfan5 |
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SylvieLorxu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-82nRpdg4d4 |
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Megaf |
ShadowNinja: Opinions on this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1854 |
| 22:13 |
Megaf |
It's weird, people liked it on my first pull request. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1648 |
| 22:14 |
ShadowNinja |
Megaf: Seems good to me, although you missed curl_timeout in defaultsettings.cpp. |
| 22:14 |
Megaf |
Ok, let me fix |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
ShadowNinja: I didnt miss it, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1854/files#diff-3474ba74d8eb9c72a47c6542f51eb4fcR97 |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
did I? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi, what are the plans for minetest 0.4.11? |
| 22:16 |
Amaz |
Megaf, to you comment about flying fast on github. As a player, I would like fly to remain fast by default... See the comment on Github for the reasons! |
| 22:16 |
Amaz |
*your |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
Amaz: when building something big, like towers and catles I like to quick switch from fly fast to fly slow |
| 22:17 |
Amaz |
Hit j! |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
its just much easier to press e to go fast |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
since we are already used to it while not flying |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
why this change in behavouir? |
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Amaz |
Because it is more convenient? |
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luizrpgluiz |
Megaf:what are the plans for minetest 0.4.11? |
| 22:18 |
Amaz |
If you want to fly, you generally want to fly fast... |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
No idea luizrpgluiz |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
Amaz: well, then this looks like a quite personal opinion |
| 22:19 |
Megaf |
and a clean and easy option for that must be given |
| 22:19 |
Amaz |
Yeah. |
| 22:19 |
Amaz |
Probably the best thing to do is see the majority opinion. |
| 22:19 |
luizrpgluiz |
Megaf: implementations will minetest 0.4.11? |
| 22:20 |
Megaf |
luizrpgluiz: well, mesh support, positional audio for mumble maybe |
| 22:20 |
Megaf |
saving of the world on the client side |
| 22:20 |
Megaf |
on disk |
| 22:20 |
Megaf |
so you dont have to load the world again every single time you join |
| 22:21 |
Megaf |
sutff like that |
| 22:21 |
Amaz |
Mapgen v5!!! |
| 22:21 |
Amaz |
Megaf, I don't know if it does make it so that you don't have to load the world every time, just makes it so you can save a local copy to your hard disk... |
| 22:22 |
luizrpgluiz |
Megaf:predicting when you have the new version will come out |
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Amaz |
Sometime in December. |
| 22:22 |
Amaz |
Maybe. |
| 22:29 |
MinetestBot |
[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/master-server: Don't count things like DNS resolution in the ping a3424b8 http://git.io/nLaA3g (2014-11-20T17:26:49-05:00) |
| 22:30 |
freelikegnu |
!up freelikegnu.org 30020 |
| 22:30 |
MinetestBot |
freelikegnu.org:30020 is up (117ms) |
| 22:30 |
freelikegnu |
:D |
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Fritigern_AFK |
VanessaE: Don't kick Friti ass! No matter how big of an ass i am! |
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freelikegnu |
will I be able to play on 4.10 servers with 4.11? |
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Fritigern_AFK |
freelikegnu: You should |
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* Megaf |
wonders if freelikegnu and PenguinDad are the same person |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
sorry if that is false |
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freelikegnu |
hehe well I do have three kids who all use xubuntu |
| 22:40 |
freelikegnu |
compiling minetest from git to try 4.11 |
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marktraceur |
0.4.11 surely |
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freelikegnu |
I'm pretty excited about the meshnodes too |
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Fritigern_AFK |
BTW VanessaE, the mod most affected by the uninitialized global thing is (on my system) mg. |
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Fritigern_AFK |
freelikegnu: Expect mods to throw tantrums about nuinitialized globals in the latest minetest git. These are just warnings though, and can safely be ignored |
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freelikegnu |
kewl |
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freelikegnu |
I'll have to learn how to build for android as well |
| 22:43 |
freelikegnu |
looks like there have been some nice fixes |
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Megaf |
ShadowNinja: thanks, I think http://servers.minetest.net/ havent been updated yet, have it? |
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VanessaE |
Fritigern_AFK: poke nore and sfan5 about that one :) |
| 22:49 |
Fritigern_AFK |
VanessaE: I know, i am working on the mod and will submit my suggested changes to them after i am done :-) |
| 22:49 |
Fritigern_AFK |
Assuming they haven;t fixed them yet :-) |
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ShadowNinja |
Megaf: Probably not, poke sfan5 (or not, since I just did). |
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* Megaf |
pokes sfan5 |
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Megaf |
With a twig |
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VanessaE |
poor sfan, he's getting so many bruises now from all these pokes ;) |
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Megaf |
cats love pokes |
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Megaf |
I wish Calinou were still using github |
| 23:26 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: what do you think about including (super)glow_glass on homedecor? |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: why? there are already a few kinds of light sources in it, and glow glass is already part of moreblocks |
| 23:26 |
Megaf |
I can making a pull request if you wish |
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VanessaE |
seems redundant to me |
| 23:27 |
Megaf |
because moreblocks is not on github =/ |
| 23:27 |
VanessaE |
it's in gitorious. |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks |
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Megaf |
I can hardly menage one git source with all my AHAD and dylexy problems |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
or ADHD or hoever |
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VanessaE |
it works the same way as github as far as the command line is concerned. |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
it's just a different fetch address. |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
git clone https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks.git |
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Megaf |
10 KB/s on git clone from github... Wow, how fast, such speed, very lightning |
| 23:31 |
Megaf |
50 from gitorious |
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Megaf |
Problem solved https://github.com/Megaf/more_blocks |
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AgentFire |
Okay |
| 23:49 |
AgentFire |
I have a problem |
| 23:49 |
AgentFire |
Buttons |
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AgentFire |
How do I get them to work with minecars |
| 23:50 |
Megaf |
I have a problem too, Im OS X, the worst OS for development ever |
| 23:51 |
Megaf |
I cant even see my debug properly |
| 23:51 |
Megaf |
can anyone test this mod please and tell me whats wrong? https://github.com/Megaf/more_blocks |
| 23:52 |
Megaf |
I know it crashes, but here it wont show whats wrong |
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marioxcc |
/join #debian |
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marioxcc |
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Megaf |
marioxcc: I have three laptops, two are running Debian |
| 23:53 |
Megaf |
and so is my desktop, and so is my servers |
| 23:53 |
Megaf |
;) |
| 23:54 |
Megaf |
but in my macbook pro, running OS X I get 11 hours of battery life |
| 23:54 |
Megaf |
and hardly three with Debian |
| 23:54 |
Megaf |
and Im not even mentioning all issues with GPU, EFI and 64 bit Debian have on Macs |
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