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00:24 Fritigern FreeFull: I use these torches: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8352
00:25 FreeFull That's probably why
00:25 FreeFull The mod probably doesn't check protection
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00:28 Fritigern How can i add this check?
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00:55 Zeno` Inocudom, you still here?
00:58 Zeno` I can't reproduce the nodes being dug up reappearing (singleplayer)
01:01 Inocudom It must be due to lag then, or is solely a Freeminer issue.
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01:07 Zeno` maybe
01:07 Zeno` why would you get significant lag singleplayer?
01:08 Fritigern Inocudom: Was it you that recently said that nobody is using farming_plus_plus on their server?
01:08 shadowzone hi Zeno`.
01:08 Inocudom Yes, that was me.
01:09 Fritigern Well, how do you know that nobody is using it?
01:09 Inocudom Why, has that changed?
01:09 Zeno` hi shadowzone
01:09 Inocudom Well, I have never seen it mentioned in a server's mods.
01:09 Fritigern That's because it is not a mod, it is a modpack
01:10 FreeLikeGNU also seems to crash
01:10 Fritigern Not on my server it doesn;t
01:11 FreeLikeGNU crashed twice on me while digging in single player
01:11 Zeno` FreeLikeGNU, what did?
01:11 FreeLikeGNU oh soory wrong chan :D
01:11 FreeLikeGNU freeminer
01:11 Zeno` :)
01:12 FreeLikeGNU MT never crashes in game
01:12 FreeLikeGNU sometimes on startup but not yet in game
01:14 Fritigern MT (and so far only the server)will crash because of stuff that should not happen, but still does. Like placing 4 markers of the markers mod in a straight line and then right-clicking the last one
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01:16 Fritigern FreeFull: added a check to the 3d_torches mod, it no longer allows torches to be placed on protected land. Patch is submitted
01:17 FreeFull Ok
01:17 FreeLikeGNU cool
01:18 Fritigern FreeFull: the submitted patch, in case you want to apply it yourself too: https://bitbucket.org/kingarthursteam/3d-torches/issue/3/3d_torches-can-be-used-and-are-being-used
01:19 Fritigern I'm no modder, and i am quite suprized that i managed to figure this one out in only about an hour
01:21 FreeLikeGNU I can wait till 4.11
01:22 FreeLikeGNU looks like lots of goodies added
01:22 Fritigern FreeFull: I doubt that the 3d_torches will be added to it.
01:23 Fritigern Also, i am using latest git of both Minetest and minetest_game, and no sign of a change in that department. In minetest_game it's mostly textures
01:23 FreeLikeGNU oh there are not 3d torches in vanilla.. right
01:23 FreeLikeGNU and meshnodes!
01:23 FreeLikeGNU or nodemeshes?
01:23 Fritigern Yup! Those will be awesome
01:23 Fritigern Mesh nodes
01:24 Fritigern I am not using VanesaaE's mesh node mod, because IMO not enough peopl connect to my server that could actually see them :-)
01:25 Fritigern (typos be damned)
01:38 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Tune cave noise scales to 6. Fix blobs spflag, now enabled. Update conf.example 10a47b7 http://git.io/X56hIQ (2014-11-09T20:21:39-05:00)
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01:40 Fritigern Aaaaaaand..... built and in use!
01:41 hisforever Hi I'm having trouble with a person who I did not invite to live in my Apt. building
01:41 Fritigern Take away his internet!
01:43 hisforever wouldn't want to be that mean but I don't even mind him being there just don't want everybody and there brothers commking here with out me saying so
01:46 Fritigern Then the solution would be to tell him exactly that, however hard it may be
01:48 Fritigern But chances are that eventually you wil have to take some tougher action. In my experience, being nice does not get the message across and makes people think that you are a pushover
01:48 Zeno` It's like walking a tightrope
01:48 Zeno` You can *usually* turn people around by being nice though
01:48 Zeno` Especially if you can somehow make them think the decision to change their behaviour was their idea and not yours hehe
01:49 * Zeno` waves his hands in the air... these are not the droids you are looking for
01:49 Fritigern I don't like being a dick, i much prefer to be liked and be thought kindly of. But if someone thinks they can take advantage of me or of my kindness, then i will be the biggest asshole they have ever met
01:50 Zeno` Fritigern, I am not the droid you are looking for
01:50 Fritigern Like for instance, if you vandalize my spawn, i will ban you without warning.
01:50 Fritigern LOL! No you aren;t :-)
01:50 Zeno` Fritigern, that is not the spawn you were looking for
01:51 Fritigern BTW Zeno`, I have made my spawn even prettier now ;-)
01:51 Zeno` Fritigern, you asked my to restyle it. It is not vandalized. /me wiggle fingers and waves his hands
01:51 Fritigern And i have a spark of an idea for more prettification
01:51 Zeno` A prettification project! Nice
01:51 Zeno` Has the major given approval?
01:51 Zeno` mayor*
01:52 * Fritigern is the major, and minor, and the medium
01:52 Zeno` medium! :-o
01:52 * Zeno` hides
01:52 Fritigern Zeno`: you remember the spawn from a while ago, right?
01:53 Fritigern I will take that silence as a "nope" :-)
01:56 Zeno` I do
01:56 Zeno` kind of hehe
01:57 Zeno` I was more concentrated on working the bug out than sight seeing though
01:57 Zeno` :)
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01:58 Fritigern Zeno`: This is what the spawn looks like now : https://mediacru.sh/6bZ-XphkOLbo
01:59 Zeno` whoa!
01:59 Zeno` glass dome roof?
01:59 shadowzone holy.....shizzle
01:59 Fritigern Yes it is
02:00 Zeno` very nice
02:00 Zeno` I like the idea of the compass as well!
02:00 Zeno` I never know which way is which
02:00 Fritigern The compass was born out of nescessity. I needed to know which way to go after peeking at my map :-)
02:01 Zeno` yeah
02:01 Zeno` makes it easier to tell people "go south from spawn" as well
02:02 Fritigern If they were to ask, then yes ;-)
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02:09 Zeno` They call him flipper, flipper, faster than lightning. No one you see, is faster than he!!
02:09 Zeno` err nvm me
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02:09 Fritigern I dolphinitely will nvm you
02:10 Zeno` oh gosh
02:10 Zeno` very clever
02:10 Zeno` but... *groan* lol
02:10 Fritigern What, you thought i am just floundering around here?
02:10 Fritigern Oh my COD
02:10 Zeno` lol
02:11 Fritigern I will quit doing that now. Before i get carried away
02:11 Fritigern But i did have a whale of a time!
02:11 Fritigern (stop that, Friti!)
02:11 Zeno` hehe
02:12 * Fritigern notices the questionmarks over the heads of all 30 year olds and younger ;-)
02:15 hisforever VanessaE how do I get permission to rent out Apt.'s in my building I have about 25 floors each ia an Apt. in itself?
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02:20 FreeLikeGNU he made that pun on porpoise
02:27 kaeza https://mediacru.sh/P9jTwnwRBq6m
02:29 FreeLikeGNU sweet
02:30 FreeLikeGNU mmm FOV patch
02:31 Zeno` FOV patch?
02:31 Fritigern You can set FOV from the config. What needs to be patched?
02:31 Zeno` That's what I was wondering
02:32 kaeza doesn't work on multiplayer
02:32 Zeno` does for me
02:32 Zeno` I'm sure it does... /me checks
02:32 kaeza programatically?
02:32 Zeno` What do you mean by programatically?
02:32 * Fritigern always has FOV at 90deg, see the screenshot that i posed just earlier.
02:32 Fritigern *posted
02:32 kaeza change FOV from a mod
02:33 Zeno` Oh no, I was talking about just "normal" FOV
02:33 Zeno` which does work on multiplayer (just checked)
02:33 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/blob/master/firearmslib/util/player_setfov.patch
02:33 kaeza (outdated)
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02:40 Zeno` Yeah I think I was talking about something different
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03:52 jordan4ibanez Why do all these programs use pi*2 for radians? :/
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04:12 FreeLikeGNU hmm teleport arrow is bugged... if you fire a few rapidly at the ground it generates more tp arrows
04:12 FreeLikeGNU as you land on them
04:59 compunerd_nick You can go through walls with them too
05:03 jordan4ibanez peace
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05:26 Inocudom bye
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06:00 Trixar_za Hey, is there a way to generate worlds with just the minetestserver binary?
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06:07 kaeza I personally use `mkdir -p worlds/WorldName; echo "gameid = minetest" > worlds/WorldName/world.mt`
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06:12 Trixar_za kaeza: Thanks - I could just throw that into a bash script with a $@ thrown in to adjust names
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09:13 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Merge pull request #1825 from Zeno-/control_key_cache a1e9732 http://git.io/q6Q2dA (2014-11-10T19:12:25+10:00)
09:13 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Create faster key cache for main game loop (client) 987e565 http://git.io/GXUdGg (2014-11-10T12:26:19+10:00)
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09:23 Amaz Has anyone got any idea how I would disable a specific spflag through minetest.register_on_mapgen_init>
09:24 Amaz s/>/?
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13:52 LazyJ Is mapgen 5 supposed to be barren rock like mapgen 7?
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14:05 Zeno` LazyJ, I think paramat is going to add biomes
14:05 LazyJ Ah, good to know. Thanks ;)
14:05 Zeno` rock is kinda boring hey
14:05 Zeno` heheh
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14:06 Zeno` I asked him about the same thing the other day
14:06 LazyJ I thought about trying it as a more hardcore survival test world, but you trees for wood to make tools just to get started. Idea trash binned.
14:07 LazyJ *you need trees for...
14:07 Zeno` Yeah, I'd give it a couple of days... I am 97% sure he's planning on adding something
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14:12 Fritigern I have just compiled the latest git. Was i supposd to see v5 when creating a new world now? Or did i misunderstand something?
14:12 Zeno` it should be there
14:13 Zeno` (yes, you should see it)
14:13 Fritigern Hmmm... Don;t know why it isn;t then
14:13 Zeno` hmmm
14:13 Fritigern I still only see v6, v7 and songlenode
14:13 Fritigern *singlenode
14:14 Zeno` did you run cmake again?
14:15 Fritigern Yup, ran cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=1
14:16 Zeno` in-source build... yuck
14:16 Zeno` make clean; cmake ....
14:16 PilzAdam you don't need to rerun cmake
14:16 PilzAdam make does that for you if it needs to be done
14:17 Zeno` how do the new files get into the Makefile?
14:17 PilzAdam and if you don't switch branches in a dirty way then you'll never need to make clean
14:17 PilzAdam Zeno`, make runs cmake first
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14:19 Zeno` ok
14:19 Zeno` I still prefer out-of-source builds :P
14:20 Fritigern Nope, still no joy. I did see mapgen_v5.cpp fly by and it was compiled, but after compilation was done, no v5 in the pulldown
14:20 PilzAdam Fritigern, are the mainmenu files in builtin/ up-to-date?
14:20 Fritigern I pulled, so it should be
14:22 kahrl grep v5 builtin/mainmenu/dlg_create_world.lua
14:22 LazyJ If it helps any, I've just compiled the latest Minetest from GitHub (5hrs old) and I have mapgen v5 in the pull-down option list.
14:23 Fritigern kahrl:        local mapgens = {"v5", "v6", "v7", "singlenode"}
14:23 Amaz Same as LazyJ here.
14:24 kahrl Fritigern: then it should be in the dropdown
14:24 LazyJ Try downloading the zip file instead of "pulling" it. Maybe something was fubared in the pull process?
14:24 Fritigern OH SONNOFFA... My mistake, my HUGE mistake
14:24 Zeno` Did you make a mistake?
14:24 LazyJ I take it there an epiphany has occured.
14:25 Fritigern Aparrently, i have my script copy ONLY the bin folder to a new location...
14:25 Fritigern Guess what the result of that is
14:25 Zeno` FUBAR
14:25 Fritigern PEBKAC
14:26 Zeno` Fritigern, I have an idea!
14:26 Zeno` You can update your script
14:26 Zeno` should be ok then
14:26 Fritigern That's pure genius! :-)
14:26 Zeno` lol, yep
14:26 Fritigern Already working on it :-)
14:28 Fritigern (And for those that are unfamiliar with the acronym PEBKAC, it means Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
14:28 Amaz XD
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14:30 LazyJ Ah. We used to say "The problem with the car is the nut behind the wheel.", Fritigern. ;)
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15:44 marktraceur Does someone have a colors.txt list for different mods?
15:45 marktraceur I think I only need technic, really
15:45 marktraceur Oh, moretrees
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15:46 marktraceur I can hack it together, but ugh.
15:47 Amaz https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/blob/master/autogenerating-colors.txt
15:47 PenguinDad marktraceur: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/blob/master/autogenerating-colors.txt
15:47 PenguinDad Amaz: you ninja!
15:47 Amaz That has a mod, a python program, and a bash script that knocks together a colors.txt
15:47 Amaz XD
15:47 marktraceur Neat.
15:51 sfan5 marktraceur: if the autogenerating-colors.txt thingy doesn't work at all ping me
15:51 marktraceur Wait, it's...multiple files in one?
15:51 marktraceur This is a silly distribution method
15:51 Amaz Yep.
15:52 Amaz That really confused me...
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16:01 kakabaka is minetets good?
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16:02 Zeno` kakabaka, what are your thoughts?
16:02 kakabaka never played it.
16:03 Amaz I think it is very good!
16:03 kakabaka betetr than mc or diffrent
16:03 kakabaka ?
16:04 Amaz I haven't played MC, but I would say it is different.
16:04 shadowzone Different
16:04 shadowzone I think it is VERY different.
16:04 kakabaka popular?
16:04 kakabaka many users?
16:04 kakabaka free?
16:05 Amaz free!
16:05 Amaz Not that popular...
16:05 Amaz A lot of children on the servers...
16:05 shadowzone FRee
16:05 shadowzone I play MC and MT
16:05 shadowzone And MT is better.
16:05 kakabaka so not popular?
16:06 shadowzone Not as popular as MC
16:06 kakabaka but many users play?
16:07 shadowzone Yeah, I suppose
16:07 kakabaka what makes minetest diffrent
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16:08 kakabaka ?
16:08 stakewinner00 kakabaka: minetest is a real infinite-world block :D
16:08 Amaz The modding api, and the flexibility that brings.
16:08 Amaz And the easy of modding.
16:09 Amaz And the different subgames that are possible.
16:09 kakabaka mc is infinate
16:09 kakabaka does this have good 24/7 servers free to host?
16:09 Amaz Also, the awesome mapgens!
16:09 kakabaka plugins?
16:09 kakabaka does this have good 24/7 servers free to host?
16:09 Amaz mods = easy plugins
16:09 Amaz I don't think so....
16:09 stakewinner00 kakabaka: mc have a top limit and a bottom limit
16:10 Amaz But someone else may know more.
16:10 kakabaka ok. mobs/
16:10 kakabaka ?
16:10 Amaz In a mod.
16:11 kakabaka why in a mod
16:11 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9917
16:11 Amaz They aren't in the default game.
16:12 Amaz If you want a MC like game, try this subgame: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9033
16:12 kakabaka d=can u change skins here
16:12 Amaz If you have a skins mod.
16:13 kakabaka carbones does it have sebsite
16:13 kakabaka website
16:13 Amaz That is its website really.
16:14 kakabaka where?
16:14 kakabaka what about multiplayer
16:15 stakewinner00 kakabaka: some servers http://www.minetest.net/servers
16:15 kakabaka i emean for carbon
16:15 kakabaka mean
16:15 Amaz The link I gave you is all the website carbone has.
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16:15 kakabaka carbone servers?
16:15 Amaz http://servers.minetest.net/
16:16 Amaz Look for the word carbone in the 3rd column
16:16 Amaz There are two that I can see.
16:17 Amaz ...
16:17 Amaz Short attention span.
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17:18 blaise so uhrm
17:18 blaise I just took down all my halloween decorations
17:18 blaise what do we have in the way of thanksgiving decor ?
17:19 * Calinou never had any Halloween decorations
17:19 VanessaE blaise: paper turkeys. :P
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17:22 blaise where?
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17:23 blaise are they in some special mod?
17:23 blaise maybe I'll just build a place for turkeys and put a bunch in it
17:24 blaise do we even have turkeys in sapiers animals modpack?
17:24 VanessaE oh didn't know you were looking for a mod :P
17:24 VanessaE I figured you were speaking figuratively
17:24 VanessaE in which case...um..  pick various "fall colors" of wool? :)
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17:34 Test|2 Calinou: Do you know if any minetest server works through ipv6?
17:34 Calinou some do…
17:34 Calinou IPv6 support is enabled when you compile
17:34 blaise lmao
17:34 Calinou but server has to explicitly enable it
17:34 blaise !server MidnightSystems
17:34 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 1/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 593ms
17:34 blaise YEAH BABY
17:34 blaise lmao
17:35 Test|2 blaise: is that server an ipv6 server?
17:35 blaise no
17:35 Test|2 Calinou: do you know any active ones as of now or a practical way to easily find them?
17:36 Calinou nope
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17:40 Test|2 Calinou: when was the last time you heard about a live minetest server that ran ipv6? weeks/months/years?
17:42 Test|2 I have a good and stable internet connection, would anybody join if I hosted a minetest ipv6 server? (ipv6 addresses are stable as that is what my ISP bullies me into using)
17:42 * Krock can not access to ipv6
17:43 Test|2 I can phone them anytime and they will probably give me an ipv4 but I want to see how long I can survive on ipv6 til I lose my patience :)
17:43 Calinou never
17:43 Calinou IPv6 is still 2 % of traffic
17:43 Calinou advocating for it still makes you sound like a fanatic…
17:43 Test|2 Google works fine
17:43 Calinou but Google is evil
17:44 Test|2 If IPv6 is 2% then that's better than 0%. I wonder who may be using it. Maybe clueless users who don't know they are using it
17:45 Test|2 ok, in short. No ipv6 for minetest. I'll continue searching...thanks for the input, bye bye
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17:55 Calinou either power users or clueless users
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18:02 blaise there are free ipv6 brokers, I've just been to lazy to mess with it really..
18:03 blaise so he totally discredited ipv6 support in minetest even though he was told it can do it..
18:03 blaise spectacular.
18:04 Test|2 blaise: do I need to compile in support for ipv6 from source?
18:04 blaise yes
18:04 blaise it's not a terribly hard ordeal
18:04 Test|2 apt-get source I think...
18:04 blaise if you don't want to put a development environment on a windows install you could use a virtual machine
18:05 blaise if you're in linux it's not difficult at all
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18:05 blaise you can also compile support for all kinds of other neat goodies..
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18:06 blaise like redis or leveldb support for the db format
18:08 blaise Calinou: so, would you know what the configuration is on the precompiled bins for elf and exe?
18:08 Calinou minetest.conf.example
18:08 Calinou src/defaultsettings.cpp
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18:10 blaise lmao
18:11 blaise so that's included in the precompiled binary executable?
18:11 rubenwardy Hi all!
18:11 blaise rubenwardy: howdy!
18:11 Calinou yes and no
18:11 Calinou minetest.conf.example is not used
18:11 Calinou all settings from defaultsettings.cpp are
18:12 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/hIEpB.jpg
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18:27 Test|2 omg, now I have to compile minetest for the first time minetest-minetest-a1e9732 and minetest-minetest_game-a90338d this stresses me. No clue how I will "merge" these two into a playable minetest
18:28 Test|2 am I expected to make this happen within 1-2 hours?
18:29 Test|2 I've compiled stuff from source before but this is the first time I'm supposed to compile 2 things and somehow make them interact.
18:29 VanessaE cp -av minetest-minetest_game-a90338d minetest-minetest-a1e9732/games/minetest_game
18:29 VanessaE there, done.
18:29 Test|2 thanks for the hint
18:29 VanessaE minetest_game is not something you compile.  it's just the "assets" as some folks like to call it.
18:29 VanessaE it's Lua and textures and so on.
18:30 PenguinDad Test|2: you don't have to compile minetest_game
18:30 VanessaE PenguinDad: ninja'd
18:30 VanessaE :)
18:30 Test|2 that's awesome. :)
18:31 VanessaE Test|2: any "subgame" like minetest_game, just gets copied whole into <minetest engine dir>/games
18:31 VanessaE and named properly
18:31 VanessaE either before or after you compile the engine, doesn't metter.
18:31 VanessaE matter*
18:35 rubenwardy If you're on debian, see Calinou's one line compile script
18:35 Calinou very easy, Test|2
18:35 rubenwardy Debian or derivatives
18:35 Calinou you can clone both repositories with chained commands
18:36 Calinou only the engine has to be compiled
18:36 rubenwardy Oops, sorry Calinou.
18:36 Calinou rubenwardy, no problem ^_^
18:36 rubenwardy XD
18:36 Calinou by the way, hi :)
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18:37 Test|2 Calinou: was it in cmake that I should add the ipv6 option?
18:38 Calinou IPv6 is always enabled
18:38 Calinou add // IPv6
18:38 Calinou settings->setDefault("enable_ipv6", "true");
18:38 Calinou settings->setDefault("ipv6_server", "false");
18:38 Calinou to your minetest.conf, add ipv6_server = true
18:38 Calinou then host a server
18:38 Calinou that's all…
18:38 Calinou you can do this on a packaged Minetest
18:39 Calinou “ipv6_server = true” add only this, the previous lines were from the source code
18:39 Calinou enable_ipv6 is client-side support, so keep it enabled
18:40 Test|2 Calinou: Somebody gave me an address that supports ipv6. How should I configure minetest to connect there?
18:40 Calinou paste it?
18:40 Calinou client-side IPv6 is enabled by default
18:40 Calinou there is no compilation flag to disable it
18:42 Test|2 Calinou: Can you also test it to see if it works on your side? I'm not 100% certain this is a minetest server: h4.setun.net :30000 :30003 (whatever those 2 mean)
18:42 Calinou IPv6 was added to 0.4.8
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18:42 Calinou works with port 30000
18:42 Test|2 Calinou: you just tested and have confirmed that it works?
18:42 _Esteban Anyone know how to get started in the freeminer forums?
18:43 Calinou yes
18:43 Calinou random Russian server
18:43 _Esteban I have signed up past friday and still I am unable to do anything :P
18:43 Calinou Freeminer forums, using Xenforo since 2013
18:44 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/IZZlXMAo0b47.png
18:44 Calinou also, how am I on a Freeminer server with a Minetest client?
18:45 Calinou very slow, lots of freezes
18:45 Calinou floating entities with blank texture everywhere
18:46 Calinou “proller, verni sumki!!!” near a sapling
18:46 PenguinDad Calinou: Because freeminer's enet protocol is coming soonâ„¢
18:46 Test|2 Calinou: address is h4.setun.net and port is 30000?
18:46 Calinou oh, hi PenguinDad :)
18:46 Test|2 When I try to connect it says "Connecting to server..."(Ι've not compiled from source yet, but using the default minetest executable in utopic unicorn)
18:47 Test|2 I'll try with directly entering 2002:50f0:d845:42::1
18:51 Calinou rubenwardy, chess?
18:51 rubenwardy Busy :(
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20:12 Krock !server lua map
20:12 MinetestBot Krock: VanessaE's/Nore's Lua mapgen test Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30003 | Clients: 0/50, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 338ms
20:13 Krock whatever. it tells "0.4.10-dev, minetest_game, v6" -> "v6". shouldn't it be singlenode?
20:13 Krock same with
20:13 Krock !server because lol
20:13 MinetestBot Krock: Because lol. | 85.6.218.161:61562 | Clients: 3/15, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 53ms
20:14 Amaz !server Cube
20:14 MinetestBot Amaz: Cube World | minetest.ig42.org | Clients: 0/10, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 240ms
20:14 Krock v5
20:15 VanessaE Krock: indeed it should say singlenode, as that's what map_meta.txt...
20:15 VanessaE says.
20:17 ElectronLibre Three seconds before, he could read what you have written.. :/..
20:17 Amaz Krock crashed my server O.O
20:17 * ElectronLibre thinks Krock probably crashed himself ._.
20:19 Calinou http://servers.minetest.net/ MLP server is gone :<
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20:41 sfan5 !server My Litte
20:41 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
20:41 sfan5 huh?
20:41 sfan5 !server ping:0.682
20:41 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
20:41 sfan5 !server ping:682
20:41 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
20:41 Calinou it is back
20:41 sfan5 yes
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20:41 sfan5 but apparently !server is broken
20:41 sfan5 !server
20:41 MinetestBot sfan5: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 0/50, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 118ms
20:42 Calinou !server testy
20:42 MinetestBot Calinou: My Little Testy Server [BETA] | 98.237.133.224 | Clients: 3/15, 2/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / mine_little_testy_pony | Ping: 682ms
20:42 sfan5 o.o
20:42 shadowzone hahaha
20:44 ElectronLibre This public server list is really weird :D.
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20:45 sfan5 weird?
20:45 ElectronLibre (Not really sure about the translation, let me explain :s)
20:47 ElectronLibre It works, then it doesn't work, and then it works again. It's quite strange, but very useful when it works. (Sometimes the serveurs don't work too, but that's another thing)
20:47 Calinou yes, I reported issues on GitHub
20:48 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bWCMLAgT2g0T.png
20:48 Calinou the server crashed
20:51 * sfan5 meows at Calinou
20:51 Amaz The serverlist is strange...
20:52 sfan5 strange?
20:52 Calinou lots of servers full of mobile clients
20:52 Amaz It's marking my singlenode server as mgv5.
20:52 Calinou hey, one of the active players on the MLP server clearly said they had an illegal mobile client
20:52 Amaz 0.4.10-dev, minetest, v5 Cube World
20:52 ElectronLibre Calinou: What can you do? :s
20:53 sfan5 Amaz: it's not marking anything
20:53 Calinou nothing
20:53 sfan5 it just takes the info minetest sends
20:53 Amaz mg_name = singlenode
20:53 Amaz That's in map_meta.txt
20:53 ElectronLibre Calinou: I cannot even understand why people use mobile clients (other than official android release)..
20:54 Calinou maybe custom mapgen in C++
20:54 Calinou that's entirely possible
20:54 Calinou ElectronLibre, because they're available at hand, unlike a PC
20:54 Calinou also on iOS that's the only way to play Minetest
20:54 Calinou people have priorities…
20:56 ElectronLibre Why do people want to play on iOS, I've tried once, it's incredibly full of annoying ads, very buggy, unstable, that's horrible... ._.
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20:58 Calinou Calinou> people have priorities…
20:58 twoelk some kids do not have a choice, as their parents are addicted to apple ;-P
20:59 * ElectronLibre has just finished loaded Calinou's picture of his skin. Poney *-*.
21:00 PenguinDad Dear Princess Calestia :D
21:01 twoelk Celestia? I presume
21:01 Calinou PenguinDad, you're not the first to call me “Calestia” :p
21:02 PenguinDad I know ;)
21:02 Calinou server is back up
21:04 * twoelk hides as the injoke dawns on him
21:05 Calinou injoke?
21:05 Calinou tell it in PM if it's not appropriate
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21:06 shadowzone I found a funny one
21:06 shadowzone But it is SO not appropriate.
21:08 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/37x_Thex3mec.png
21:12 * ElectronLibre likes this player 3d model.
21:12 Amaz Calinou, mobs spawn by default in Carbone, right?
21:12 Calinou yes, Amaz
21:12 Amaz Okay, great.
21:12 Calinou hostile mobs are only underground
21:12 Calinou intended
21:13 Amaz Right, forgot about that.
21:13 Amaz Except for the trooper?
21:13 twoelk that picture reminds me of long hours of watching that waving ponytail raiding the tombs ... is there a Lara pony?
21:13 Calinou trooper is also underground-only now
21:14 Calinou twoelk, nope
21:14 Amaz Oh, right.
21:14 twoelk :-(
21:29 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Serverlist: announce mg_name from map_meta.txt instead of minetest.conf 0adadba http://git.io/Y24yNQ (2014-11-10T22:27:10+01:00)
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22:02 kaeza greetings
22:02 ElectronLibre Hello kaeza.
22:02 jordan4ibanez Good day monswar
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22:16 shadowzone hola oOChainLynxOo, como estas
22:16 shadowzone GAH
22:16 shadowzone missed a char
22:16 oOChainLynxOo Muy bueno
22:16 * shadowzone tries to remember the next word
22:16 shadowzone bien(I think)
22:17 oOChainLynxOo Muy bien*
22:17 oOChainLynxOo Lol
22:17 oOChainLynxOo I forgot too
22:17 * ElectronLibre isn't the only one who has got problems to speak spanish..
22:17 ElectronLibre Hello oOChainLynxOo.
22:17 oOChainLynxOo Hi ElectronLibre
22:18 oOChainLynxOo I'm more into speaking German anyway (it's easier)
22:18 ElectronLibre "Bien" or "Muy bien", it's not very important. It's like "fine" and "very fine", there are no big differencies.
22:18 oOChainLynxOo Although I can't pull off a German accent to safe my life
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22:20 oOChainLynxOo It's quiet
22:20 oOChainLynxOo Too quiet
22:21 twoelk German accent?
22:21 * RealBadAngel plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LD2GnxmKU
22:21 ElectronLibre !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LD2GnxmKU
22:21 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: Scooter - Faster Harder Scooter (Official Video HQ) - YouTube
22:24 RealBadAngel and thats all for quiet ;)
22:26 oOChainLynxOo RealBadAngel O.O
22:26 * ElectronLibre prefers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuhuzJAibNI , but it doesn't matter.
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22:34 RealBadAngel oOChainLynxOo, not loud enough, eat this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzJLOJzLGc
22:35 RealBadAngel oops, i mean ElectronLibre ;)
22:35 ElectronLibre !title
22:35 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: 浜崎あゆみ / evolution - YouTube
22:35 * ElectronLibre cannot read.
22:35 RealBadAngel so just play it :)
22:35 ElectronLibre In about 2h, when the video download will be finished, I will answer you :°...
22:36 RealBadAngel very neat piece to listen to real loud
22:37 ElectronLibre Not enough connection speed to see it, I have to use youtube-dl to download it, but with only 15Kb/s, it will be very very slow..
22:39 ElectronLibre And what about this? => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W1Wi2U9sQ
22:40 ElectronLibre (Only the end, the beginning is quite soft)
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22:44 oOChainLynxOo Back
22:44 oOChainLynxOo Here's loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6-vI70oc0
22:44 ElectronLibre !title
22:44 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: Pain Killer - Judas Priest - YouTube
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23:04 * kahrl kicks self
23:05 kahrl Wisdom of the day: the way to fix ALSA problems is not to install PulseAudio; that will only make them worse
23:06 Hirato what else is new
23:07 Hirato amusingly, it would seem pulseaudio actually works now, only took them 6 years
23:07 Hirato after first forcing it on everyone
23:07 kahrl works? not for me...
23:07 exio4 sounds like systemd
23:07 exio4 it works _well enough_ to not be 100% crap
23:07 Hirato the initial run didn't quite work right for me either, but that's because I was using the timidity daemon :/
23:08 kahrl well, at least with ALSA my speakers managed to produce some sound
23:08 Hirato https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23891252/pulse.ogg back in 2012, this was all I could get out of pulse
23:08 exio4 I am using pulseaudio at my containers for sharing audio with the host
23:08 exio4 mainly because I am a lazy ass
23:09 Hirato and that was IF I was LUCKY
23:09 exio4 but well, it works ok for now
23:09 SylvieLorxu I still use ALSA on my desktop for the same reason :P
23:10 exio4 I would be using jackd if I took more than 10 seconds to get stuff done
23:11 Hirato Blub convinced me to give PA another try in June, at version 5.0, after a few initial hurdles, like the it playing sound through my screen rather than my speakers, it... worked :|
23:11 exio4 being able to plug application outputs and inputs like they were wires IRL is pretty nice
23:11 Hirato I was going to purge it the moment it pissed me off, alas it has yet to
23:11 exio4 you can say "damn, I could record this nice app sound output"
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23:12 exio4 so you plug it to a recorder, and while doing this, you unplug the app from the speakers, and play a game
23:12 kahrl exio4: that's what I have been trying to do in .asoundrc the last few days :|
23:13 exio4 I miss jackd everyday I keep using alsa alone
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23:42 hisforever Who do I ask to set up the Apartment mod in Digitalaudioconcepts.com? I have a 25 floor Apt building I'd love to shair?
23:50 kaeza hisforever, there are quite a few moderators online at all times there. I think maybe deezl or Microchip can help with that
23:50 kaeza what is your username there?
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