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H-H-H |
ok mental note lol dont make an automated pickaxe machine that has 50 chests for storage and then forget to turn it of coz the cleanup is a PIA |
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xrazybud |
i wanna make one of those |
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H-H-H |
this is my first time playing with pipeworks mod over the last few days and its frigin awesome |
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Fritigern |
!tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: A pulldown menu listing all the (installed) mods, choosing one entry shows only the items from that one mod |
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Fritigern |
And of course MTB is MIA |
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OldCoder |
Where does obsidian come from? |
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Yellowberry |
LAVA_source + water |
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Yellowberry |
^ OldCoder |
| 01:21 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry, if we can talk, that will be great. You told me that before. One of the kids has placed water next to lava. |
| 01:21 |
OldCoder |
Nothing happens. I assume that it needs to be lava *source* |
| 01:21 |
OldCoder |
Remember, I run worlds, I have not really played the game |
| 01:21 |
OldCoder |
May we continue speaking in PM sometime when you are able to do so? |
| 01:22 |
OldCoder |
I have been working pretty hard on several worlds, including yours, and would appreciate help |
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Fritigern |
OldCoder: Put water on top of lava, it generates obsidian. However, when water touches lava from the sides or the botton, it generates cobble |
| 01:26 |
OldCoder |
On top of any lava or must it be lava source? |
| 01:27 |
Fritigern |
It must be a lava source |
| 01:27 |
OldCoder |
Thank you |
| 01:28 |
Fritigern |
Welcome ;-) |
| 01:28 |
OldCoder |
Is a lava cube that has moving patterns a source? |
| 01:28 |
Yellowberry |
no |
| 01:28 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 01:28 |
Yellowberry |
only the solid ones |
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Fritigern |
If you can scoop it up with a bucket, it's a source |
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OldCoder |
a non-moving lava cube is a source, then? |
| 01:28 |
Yellowberry |
yes |
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OldCoder |
Yellow I really could use answers about saplings when you have time |
| 01:29 |
OldCoder |
I am spending hours a day trying to answer questions there |
| 01:29 |
Yellowberry |
i'm eating dinner ATM, but I could help soon |
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Fritigern |
OldCoder: Is the sampling thing something that i could possibly help you with? |
| 01:30 |
Fritigern |
*sapling |
| 01:31 |
Fritigern |
"Where does obsidian come from?" Well, when mommy lava and daddy water love eahother very much........ |
| 01:32 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern, thank you. And heh. We will see what Yellowberry can do. |
| 01:32 |
OldCoder |
I will request help from others when he is unable to continue. |
| 01:32 |
OldCoder |
It is his mod and world, so he may wish first craft. |
| 01:33 |
Fritigern |
I had hoped that the question would be a general one. Something like "hopw do i get saplings?" |
| 01:33 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern he has not finished the tree code |
| 01:33 |
OldCoder |
But could you possibly come and show the kids how to make obsidian |
| 01:33 |
OldCoder |
One has been trying for an hour |
| 01:33 |
OldCoder |
* first crack |
| 01:34 |
Fritigern |
Okay, i will give it a whirl |
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OldCoder |
Server is minetest.org port 30021 |
| 01:39 |
OldCoder |
slime there is a test |
| 01:39 |
OldCoder |
slime you must answer a question |
| 01:39 |
OldCoder |
slime are you a polite player? |
| 01:40 |
OldCoder |
O.K. the_kreator Fritigern is looking at the code |
| 01:40 |
OldCoder |
Wrong window |
| 01:40 |
Fritigern |
LOL |
| 01:45 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry, did you delete the Cool Lava Source ABM? |
| 02:02 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern, you used the wrong password |
| 02:02 |
OldCoder |
Need a reset? |
| 02:03 |
Fritigern |
I don;t know. I'll try and see what's wrong. Might be CaPs |
| 02:03 |
Fritigern |
There we go |
| 02:03 |
OldCoder |
BTW sorry about teleporting you into lava before |
| 02:03 |
OldCoder |
That stuff is pretty hot, I suppose |
| 02:05 |
Yellowberry |
hehe |
| 02:05 |
Yellowberry |
yeah |
| 02:05 |
Yellowberry |
you would make fried bananas out of me with that stuff |
| 02:05 |
Yellowberry |
^ OldCoder |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern what do all of those CONTENT_IGNOREs look like to you? |
| 02:06 |
* Yellowberry |
enjoys pretending to be a banana |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Yellowbanana the change worked, I will merge with your next pass |
| 02:07 |
Fritigern |
OldCoder: I have no idea. First time i have seen an error like that |
| 02:07 |
Yellowberry |
maybe? |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Well, that was obsidian, right? |
| 02:07 |
Yellowberry |
OldCoder, just push change to repo please, I will accept |
| 02:08 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry, do I simply clone and push? |
| 02:08 |
OldCoder |
What about auth? |
| 02:08 |
Yellowberry |
ah |
| 02:09 |
Yellowberry |
do you not have a GitHub account? |
| 02:09 |
OldCoder |
I do |
| 02:09 |
OldCoder |
I am BoldCoder IIRC |
| 02:09 |
OldCoder |
checking |
| 02:09 |
OldCoder |
Hang on |
| 02:09 |
OldCoder |
debugging a world issue |
| 02:09 |
Yellowberry |
just use email address as username and password as pass |
| 02:09 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern are you saying |
| 02:10 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry you need to add me first, right? |
| 02:10 |
Fritigern |
Looks like the error spam is torch related. Dunno how |
| 02:10 |
OldCoder |
https://github.com/OldCoder |
| 02:10 |
OldCoder |
I'll need to patch it out? |
| 02:10 |
Yellowberry |
yeah, that could become a problem |
| 02:10 |
OldCoder |
But how were the torches removed? |
| 02:10 |
OldCoder |
What could become a problem? |
| 02:10 |
Fritigern |
I dug them |
| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
Is that world specific? |
| 02:11 |
Yellowberry |
seeing as we don't want all the mods you added added to your copy |
| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry you need to add me first, right? |
| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry I can push just the change |
| 02:11 |
Yellowberry |
ok |
| 02:11 |
Yellowberry |
hold on |
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Fritigern |
Psss... Where can i find the news mod? |
| 02:12 |
Yellowberry |
also, please pull in about 2 minutes, fishyWET added some stuff |
| 02:12 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern I will give it to you shortly; I forget who gave it to me |
| 02:12 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry hang on a second |
| 02:12 |
OldCoder |
DOn't merge his stuff ye |
| 02:12 |
OldCoder |
DOn't merge his stuff yet * |
| 02:12 |
Fritigern |
I was hoping for a link |
| 02:12 |
Yellowberry |
OldCoder, I wont |
| 02:13 |
OldCoder |
Boy there's a lot of those CONTENT IGNORE errors |
| 02:13 |
OldCoder |
Fritigern I don't have one |
| 02:13 |
OldCoder |
I will make one |
| 02:14 |
OldCoder |
Yellowberry, just a few minutes |
| 02:14 |
Fritigern |
BTW, what's wrong with the bones mod? I can't dig my own bones and the content appears to be wildly different than my starting inventory |
| 02:14 |
OldCoder |
Good question |
| 02:14 |
OldCoder |
One step at a time |
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Fritigern |
I wonder if the solution would be to restore default to... ermm... its defaults |
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wazupwiop |
hey guys, I am new |
| 02:41 |
wazupwiop |
How do I pick up a furnace? |
| 02:43 |
Cylus |
wazupwiop: Use a pick. |
| 02:43 |
Cylus |
Any pick will work. |
| 02:43 |
wazupwiop |
Will a wooden pick work? |
| 02:43 |
Cylus |
wazupwiop: The furnace must be empty to pick up though. |
| 02:43 |
Cylus |
A wooden pick will work. |
| 02:43 |
wazupwiop |
I am left-clicking and it isn't picking up |
| 02:44 |
Cylus |
Hmm. It worked last time I tried. I'll pull up my world and try again. |
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wazupwiop |
I am running Mac OSX Mavericks |
| 02:45 |
wazupwiop |
On the 20140903 release |
| 02:45 |
Cylus |
WEIRD. They changed it. Wooden picks will not work on furnaces any more. |
| 02:46 |
Cylus |
It seems a stone pick will works. |
| 02:46 |
Cylus |
I swear though, I thought wooden picks worked. They used to. |
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wazupwiop |
cool thanks |
| 02:47 |
Cylus |
Yeah, no problem. |
| 02:47 |
diemartin |
wazupwiop, just out of curiosity, are you "clicking", or holding the button? |
| 02:47 |
wazupwiop |
holding |
| 02:47 |
diemartin |
alright |
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diemartin |
(no offense intended, some people seem to assume nodes are dug by clicking :P) |
| 02:49 |
wazupwiop |
haha |
| 02:49 |
wazupwiop |
How often is minetest updated? |
| 02:49 |
Cylus |
I think it varies. |
| 02:49 |
Cylus |
Also, it depends on if you want stable or unstable Minetest. |
| 02:50 |
wazupwiop |
Yeah. I am a dev, so I am thinking about taking a crack at adding some features. |
| 02:50 |
Cylus |
Most people here tend to go for unstable Minetest, and get updates whenever they feel like it. |
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wazupwiop |
I am really impressed by the game. |
| 02:50 |
wazupwiop |
It runs amazingly well. |
| 02:51 |
wazupwiop |
have they added in mobs to fight yet? |
| 02:51 |
Cylus |
Yeah, it's pretty sweet. I totally found this place by accident too. I was lucky that day. |
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Cylus |
Mobs are not in the default game, but people have created mods/modules/scripts to add them. |
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wazupwiop |
I have to say this is pretty amazing |
| 02:53 |
wazupwiop |
has anyone ported computercraft to this yet? |
| 02:53 |
Cylus |
The forum might be the place to look for such a mod. I think the popular mobs mod is "mobf". |
| 02:53 |
Cylus |
I've never heard of "computercraft". Is that a Minecraft thing? |
| 02:54 |
Cylus |
I think someone created a computers mod, but the computers are only decorative, not functional. |
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wazupwiop |
Yeah, computercraft was one of my favorite mods from MC |
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Yellowberry |
Cylus, its mod where you can write programs in lua for interactive computers |
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* Yellowberry |
just realized he is an hour too late |
| 03:40 |
Cylus |
Yellowberry: Ah. So like out Lua Controllers, or whatever that mod is called? |
| 03:41 |
Yellowberry |
sorta, but its like a command line type thing |
| 03:41 |
Yellowberry |
you write the files outside the game then run them through the computer, like batch scrips |
| 03:41 |
Yellowberry |
*scripts |
| 03:41 |
Cylus |
Ah. Well it sounds like it's doable from here then, if someone wants to build it. |
| 03:41 |
Yellowberry |
yeah |
| 03:42 |
Yellowberry |
especially because minetest is lua natively, so no library implementation is needed |
| 03:44 |
Cylus |
Hmm. Do these computer-run scripts effect the world around the computer, or just do things on the computer itself? |
| 03:45 |
Yellowberry |
Cylus, they can effect the world around them if put into a special computer called a turtle |
| 03:45 |
Yellowberry |
which can interact with the world with the certain tool you craft it with |
| 03:46 |
Cylus |
Trippy. That might be kind of interesting. |
| 03:49 |
Yellowberry |
yeah |
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Yellowberry |
Anyone awake and knows python around here? |
| 03:59 |
Cylus |
I know Python. I'm also partially awake, Yellowberry. |
| 03:59 |
Cylus |
SssssSSSSSsssss ...... |
| 03:59 |
Yellowberry |
lol |
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Yellowberry |
could you help me debug something? |
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Cylus |
Alright, what's the problem? |
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Yellowberry |
#moontest please |
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Yellowberry |
I am surprised |
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Simcra |
o/ |
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OldCoder |
What is player breath? |
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OldCoder: It probably has to do with the new drowning mechanics. |
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OldCoder |
Cylus, yes; I'll need to learn it. There are no docs. |
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OldCoder |
Reviewed the code but not clear. Thanks. |
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Zeno` |
Scooboy doooby dooooooooooo |
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* Zeno` |
gives sfan5 a scooby snack |
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DuDraig |
I found the solution to my problem with nodes that have on_place set to minetest.rotate_node not calling the node after_place_node and global registered on_placenode callbacks. Anyone interested in this? |
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Jordach |
shit https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RlHATaVj_hl7.png |
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ElectronLibre |
O_O? |
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Zeno` |
works for me |
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Amaz |
And me. |
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* ElectronLibre |
can see the beginning of an email adress on another tab >_> |
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ElectronLibre |
It works perfectly here. |
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PenguinDad |
Works here too |
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Amaz |
XD |
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ElectronLibre |
Ok... I see... '_' |
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Zeno` |
Yeah, that's most likely it... iptables -A INPUT -s Jordachs_IP -j DROP |
| 09:53 |
Zeno` |
I always choose the simplest answer |
| 09:53 |
Zeno` |
I call it Zeno's Razor |
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* Zeno` |
looks at PenguinDad |
| 09:54 |
Zeno` |
you... |
| 09:54 |
Zeno` |
nvm |
| 10:03 |
* PenguinDad |
why there's libsane but no libinsane |
| 10:03 |
PenguinDad |
s/why/wonders why/ |
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| 10:09 |
Zeno` |
huh? |
| 10:10 |
Zeno` |
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 May 23 08:33 /usr/lib64/libinsane.so.1 -> libinsane.so.0.0.1 |
| 10:10 |
Zeno` |
looks fine to me |
| 10:14 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: I don't have this library :( |
| 10:15 |
Zeno` |
PenguinDad, I can give you the src code if you want insanity as well |
| 10:16 |
* Zeno` |
suddenly realises his deception may be revealed and quickly codes up a library |
| 10:30 |
Azelphur |
Just figured you guys might be interested, I'm here at MozFest 2014 with a bunch of older hardware that couldn't run Minecraft, Installed xubuntu and minetest on them and it's going down a storm, https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=1f052e64384d55a1eb6356b1bde76342 |
| 10:32 |
Azelphur |
A quick way I garnered interest was just setting the kids the challenge, "Dig to bedrock" while cackling like an evil bastard ;) |
| 10:33 |
Jordach |
you genius bastard |
| 10:33 |
Jordach |
even with technic and stuff installed, it takes me about a few hours to dig straight down a single KM |
| 10:34 |
Azelphur |
haha :D |
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Azelphur |
and this is stock |
| 10:38 |
Zeno` |
will keep them occupied |
| 10:40 |
Azelphur |
indeed |
| 10:40 |
Azelphur |
I'm just sitting here cackling manically, one kid has started to figure it out. |
| 10:44 |
Azelphur |
https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=512c0a7099829100ebfa382a4685160f android builds are getting some love too |
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Jordach |
+1 for fullscreen |
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iqualfragile |
Azelphur: woho, you seem to be quite the risk taker, eh? |
| 10:57 |
iqualfragile |
running a public owncloud? |
| 10:57 |
Azelphur |
iqualfragile, why's that risky? it's designed for it |
| 10:57 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=159721#p159721 |
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iqualfragile |
i read about critical owncloud problems like very 2nd month |
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iqualfragile |
are you the guy with the tatoos? |
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Azelphur |
iqualfragile, nope I'm the guy taking the photo |
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iqualfragile |
ah, makes sense |
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iqualfragile |
PenguinDad: no, seeing taht you are talking about libinsane why was entirely correct |
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iqualfragile |
*critical security problems |
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Jordach |
sfan5, !!cat https://i.imgur.com/TebzLzl.jpg |
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* Zeno` |
looks at PenguinDad. Want a Scooby Snack? |
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Zeno` |
no? |
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* Zeno` |
gives the Scooby Snack to iqualfragile |
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* iqualfragile |
keeps it |
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urbanizator |
Hey I have problems running minetest on ubuntu. It does not show the three buttons neither does it start fullscreen and now it started closing the moment I open it |
| 11:21 |
urbanizator |
debug.txt = http://pastebin.com/7SRiRcxJ |
| 11:21 |
kilbith |
your minetest version ? |
| 11:21 |
urbanizator |
the one from the ubuntu store |
| 11:21 |
urbanizator |
where can I see? |
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urbanizator |
minetest 0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1 |
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kilbith |
avoid this one, download from here : http://www.minetest.net/download |
| 11:22 |
kilbith |
it's 0.4.10 since July |
| 11:22 |
urbanizator |
oh I thought if I add the ppa it would just work using the gui |
| 11:22 |
urbanizator |
so I have to use command line then? |
| 11:23 |
kilbith |
install MT 0.4.10 |
| 11:23 |
kilbith |
firstly |
| 11:23 |
urbanizator |
oh its minetestc55 |
| 11:23 |
urbanizator |
that i need? |
| 11:23 |
kilbith |
your ubuntu version ? |
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urbanizator |
14.something |
| 11:24 |
urbanizator |
anyway I now have 4.10 |
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urbanizator |
it opened in the middle of my screen without the options to close/make smaller/minize |
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kilbith |
yes minetestc55 package |
| 11:25 |
kilbith |
or this one which is more recent : https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+packages |
| 11:25 |
urbanizator |
Yea it works now, tnx |
| 11:25 |
kilbith |
yw |
| 11:25 |
urbanizator |
annoying that if you search for just "minetest" that you get the wrong version |
| 11:26 |
kilbith |
just avoid the "-store" or something |
| 11:26 |
urbanizator |
Ubuntu Software Center? |
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kilbith |
i personally prefer synaptic |
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kilbith |
further infos |
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* GhostDoge |
barks |
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* Zeno` |
roars |
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* GhostDoge |
licks Zeno` |
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Zeno` |
yuck, yik, yukky |
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Zeno` |
brb, having another shower :( |
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* Zeno` |
looks around in a daze |
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Zeno` |
hark! who goes there? |
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* Zeno` |
shines torch into Wuzzy's eye. Identify thou self! |
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* Zeno` |
whirls around and looks behind |
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Zeno` |
hark! who goes there? |
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Zeno` |
I am surrounded my silent people! |
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Wuzzy |
lol |
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Wuzzy |
what's up? |
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brothersome |
Is there anyone working on the memory absorption of the game? |
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Zeno` |
brothersome, in what sense? |
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Zeno` |
Wuzzy, not much. I am calm now |
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Zeno` |
Wuzzy, you? |
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Wuzzy |
yea |
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Zeno` |
brothersome, I know some people have been indicating that the latest dev versions consume memory but I haven't seen this myself. Is this what you're referring to? |
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cheesecreamelbow |
can someone help me setup shadowninja's protection mod? the readme doesn't make sense to me |
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brothersome |
Thanks Zeno for responding, I had to put 1 GB extra in my Laptop but minetest still is not working when I came to some buildings, it consumes and consumes memory |
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Zeno` |
brothersome, what version? |
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cheesecreamelbow |
readme said If you wish to specify configuration options, such as whether players are allowed to protect their own areas with /protect (Disabled by default), you should check config.lua and set the appropriate settings in your minetest.conf. |
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brothersome |
Zeno, I use Ubuntu and I am at the latest version using the app |
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cheesecreamelbow |
but, there is no config.lua in the mod folder |
| 12:47 |
brothersome |
Version is 0.4.10 |
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Zeno` |
does minetest --version output anything extra? |
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brothersome |
Many times only the missing of textures |
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Zeno` |
whatever "minetest --version" (without the quotes) outputs might be useful |
| 12:49 |
brothersome |
I use linuxgaming.us and when I ran to some buildings I see the memory increasing and then it swaps |
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brothersome |
Looking for the command of minestest --- it is not minetest (c55) |
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brothersome |
Minetest 0.4.10, Using Irrlicht 1.8.1, Build info: VER=0.4.10 |
| 12:52 |
brothersome |
Is it a minetest problem or Irrlicht problem? Somewhere |
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Zeno` |
I have fixed some mem leaks and so have others... |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
(since then) |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
just to confirm, this is the client you're talking about? |
| 12:52 |
brothersome |
Yes |
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Zeno` |
let me look at the commit log |
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Zeno` |
There has been memory leak fixes, but I am not sure if they're affecting the client |
| 12:56 |
Zeno` |
But, to answer your earlier question, yes people are looking at finding and fixing them all the time |
| 12:56 |
brothersome |
When I am at the same node it calls Client::addnode several times, I do not know what that means |
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Zeno` |
how did you determine that? |
| 12:57 |
brothersome |
I started with: minetest --info |
| 12:57 |
Zeno` |
oh wait... are you playing singleplayer game? |
| 12:57 |
brothersome |
No, linuxgaming.us , I am now at spawn |
| 12:58 |
Zeno` |
hmm |
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brothersome |
I justed walked around spawn and it takes 400 MB extra |
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* Zeno` |
thinks |
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* brothersome |
using openbox |
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Zeno` |
if you go away from spawn does the memory decrease? |
| 13:02 |
brothersome |
I do not see an declinement of memory in the windown running top |
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Zeno` |
I think a new release will be coming pretty soon. Maybe it's best to see what happens after it's released |
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brothersome |
Ok, I shall wait --- I just spend 30 Euro's on memory to get things running more smoothly |
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Zeno` |
unless BlockMen or someone else has a new Ubuntu build for you to tesdt |
| 13:04 |
Zeno` |
well, the extra RAM won't go astray for other things as well ;) so it's not wasted |
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brothersome |
I'm a developer myself, If somebody has a testversion I can help |
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Zeno` |
brothersome, can you compile your own version then? |
| 13:05 |
brothersome |
I have gcc and g++ on my computer |
| 13:05 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
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Zeno` |
git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git and follow the README might be worth it |
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brothersome |
I can look for it, hopefully it is not too big for this celeron machine |
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Zeno` |
hmm |
| 13:06 |
Zeno` |
probably not too big... many people compile on lower-end machines (it just takes longer) |
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Zeno` |
Does anybody know if there is a release date for 0.4.11? |
| 13:07 |
brothersome |
I am now cloning |
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Zeno` |
I'll see what happens if I join that server |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: that picture looks like a paiting |
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sfan5 |
painting* |
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Zeno` |
wow ok |
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Zeno` |
so sitting at spawn my RAM usage just keeps going up |
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Zeno` |
what the... |
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brothersome |
How can I compile minetest? I do not see a configure script |
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Jordach |
brothersome, read the readme |
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sfan5 |
brothersome: cmake |
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sfan5 |
ahaha |
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sfan5 |
aw |
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sfan5 |
it's gone |
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Zeno` |
ok there is a problem somewhere bothersome. My RAM just keeps going up as well (30%) now |
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Zeno` |
compiling new client... bbiab |
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brothersome |
Strange --- CMAKE error --- Cannot find X11 |
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sfan5 |
I guess you need X11 installed |
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sfan5 |
except you want a server only |
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iqualfragile |
why no wayland |
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GhostDoge |
brothersome: do you the have dev libraries minetest needs? |
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iqualfragile |
sfan5: make featurz plz |
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Zeno` |
x11-dev |
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sfan5 |
iqualfragile: do I like like I want to implement wayland support in irrlicht? |
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brothersome |
Ubuntu complains that it cannot find x11-dev |
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sfan5 |
like -> look |
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Zeno` |
I don't know the ubuntu package name :) |
| 13:27 |
Zeno` |
anyway I can confirm that it's continually using up memory on that server |
| 13:27 |
Zeno` |
I stopped when it got to 8GB |
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* sfan5 |
throws valgrind at Zeno` |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, and what doth thou thing I am doing right now :p |
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sfan5 |
dunno |
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Zeno` |
just takes a while hehe |
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Zeno` |
well, I am running the client under valgrind and connecting to that server ;) |
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Zeno` |
valgrind won't necessarily find leaks though (if they're all cleaned up at the end) |
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Zeno` |
I do know that OpenAL leaks, but not sure if that's what's happening here |
| 13:32 |
Zeno` |
0 frames per second hehe |
| 13:32 |
Zeno` |
oh oh oh! 1 FPS |
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Amaz |
:D |
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GhostDoge |
Valgrind grinding your fps :D |
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Zeno` |
yeah! I love playing like this |
| 13:36 |
Zeno` |
lost blocks in ProcessData... that's new |
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Zeno` |
oh... maybe particle spawners |
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Zeno` |
yeah that's where it's happening |
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Zeno` |
who looks after that area of the code? |
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sfan5 |
[redacted] - - [25/Oct/2014:13:39:51 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Linux/3.12.13-gentooBeAsT x86_64)" "-" |
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sfan5 |
^ oh look, gentoo |
| 13:41 |
Zeno` |
thank brothersome |
| 13:41 |
Zeno` |
I'll try my best to report it |
| 13:41 |
Zeno` |
thanks* |
| 13:42 |
Zeno` |
I can't fix it myself because I don't really understand that part of the code (not looked at it yet) |
| 13:42 |
Zeno` |
The part of the code I suspect is the issue* |
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brothersome |
I am now building minetest --- A lot of work to get to this stage |
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Zeno` |
brothersome, well it's worthwhile probably :D |
| 13:49 |
Zeno` |
it won't fix your current issue, but... |
| 13:49 |
brothersome |
Now 8 % |
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brothersome |
I can search for the code for memory |
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Zeno` |
I know what's the most likely cause now and have let the core devs know |
| 13:50 |
Zeno` |
I'm between a rock and a hard place though |
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brothersome |
Thanks Zeno a lot |
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Zeno` |
if I fix the issue it will mess up 12 days work of mine that is not merged yet hehe |
| 13:50 |
Zeno` |
perhaps that's selfish, but *sigh* |
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Zeno` |
I'm sure it'll be fixed now it's been brought to attention |
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brothersome |
Is it because I had that info log on? |
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cheesecreamelbow |
can someone help me with sahdowninjas protection mod? |
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Zeno` |
nah I think it's particle stuff |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, you can help me :D |
| 13:52 |
sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
busy being a ca |
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sfan5 |
t |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, by testing my PR |
| 13:53 |
Zeno` |
cats like testing |
| 13:53 |
sfan5 |
nah |
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Zeno` |
sheesh, tough crowd |
| 13:53 |
Zeno` |
nobody will test it :/ |
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brothersome |
Testing what Zeno --- perhaps a client version? |
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Zeno` |
yeah :( |
| 13:55 |
Zeno` |
not a version per. se. ... a cleanup |
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brothersome |
If I can help you, let me know ---- I am able to test a client --- I use linuxgaming.us as servefr |
| 13:57 |
Zeno` |
it still won't fix your current issue, but yeah... the more testers the better: https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/tree/refactor_the_game |
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kilbith |
« nobody cares » - © proller Corp., all rights reserved. |
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brothersome |
Zeno, how to get your sources? |
| 14:03 |
brothersome |
Going for tea now |
| 14:03 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/tree/refactor_the_game |
| 14:03 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest |
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Zeno` |
well, I may watch some TV now... 12:04AM here :) |
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kilbith |
you only sleep at day ? |
| 14:06 |
Zeno` |
these days... yes |
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kilbith |
batman |
| 14:06 |
Zeno` |
I lost my job 4 or 5 or 6 weeks ago because there was no work coming in |
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Zeno` |
and for some reason I've turned into a night owl |
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OldCoder |
Zeno`, read Swizec's book "Night Owls" |
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OldCoder |
I believe parts are free online |
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kilbith |
https://github.com/Swizec/nightowls |
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Calinou |
fffffff |
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Calinou |
trying to make HUD-without-hunger, the mod does nothing |
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GhostDoge |
Calinou: did you expect anything else? |
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Calinou |
health bar background and stuff like that |
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Calinou |
but anyway I'm not putting hud mod in Carbone |
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Calinou |
lag is clearly visible |
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Jordach |
what lag |
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Jordach |
i haven't seen any with my somewhat edited version |
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Calinou |
obvious lag of health compared to not having a HUD mod |
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Krock |
meow |
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hassage |
hi |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello hassage. |
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Fritigern |
!tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: A pulldown menu listing all the (installed) mods, choosing one entry shows only the items from that one mod |
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MinetestBot |
Fritigern: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around |
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Calinou |
!tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: non-ugly slot textures |
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MinetestBot |
Calinou: yeah, sure, whatever |
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GhostDoge |
Calinou: s/ugly/square/ |
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GhostDoge |
*non-ugly |
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Fritigern |
MT's gui as a whole is... erm.... not pretty |
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Calinou |
how would you improve it? |
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Fritigern |
Different graphics toolkit, like Qt perhaps |
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Calinou |
WTF?! |
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Calinou |
you want to implement a graphics toolkit in a game? |
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Calinou |
that is totally irrelevant to visuals anyway |
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Calinou |
it'd never be accepted |
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Calinou |
that's like wanting Boost libraries |
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Fritigern |
You asked, it's not my fault that you don;t like my answer |
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Calinou |
it's not a suitable answer |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
changing default colours, font… is one |
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Fritigern |
It's my answer and you'll have to deal with it |
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kilbith |
Fritigern: you can sort the items from a mod by searching with the name of the mod |
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Calinou |
eg. I'd like if gradient of buttons was reversed when you click on them |
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Calinou |
adds more effect than just offsetting the boc slightly |
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kilbith |
would be better to have category tabs instead |
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Fritigern |
kilbith: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5641 |
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kilbith |
yes, like that |
| 16:48 |
kilbith |
'ported for UI |
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VanessaE |
ew. |
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Fritigern |
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Minetest-GUI-321089133 perhaps? |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
better widgets, way worse theme. |
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GhostDoge |
Fritigern: for a nintendo ds maybe |
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Fritigern |
I'm also not too fond of the font. It feels like someone thought "wewll, this will do for now" and then never went back to it |
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GhostDoge |
Fritigern: you can already change the font |
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Calinou |
mockups are never actually made |
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Calinou |
rule 1 of mockups ^ |
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Calinou |
also it looks like crap |
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Fritigern |
Yeah, i wil have to play around with the font. However, i worry that people have adjusted stuff like buttons, HUD positions, etc with the current default font in mind. |
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Fritigern |
Calinou: Have you got anything better? |
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Calinou |
yes, with larger font you will need to adjust stuff |
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Calinou |
try Droid Sans 18 |
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Calinou |
with shadow alpha 255 |
| 16:56 |
Calinou |
much better |
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Calinou |
(same font as Warsow's font used for console) |
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OldCoder |
I've got steel shingles which are extinct popping up. I have no idea how players managed to summon them. |
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OldCoder |
Does anybody have the original steel mod which defined steel shingles? |
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OldCoder |
It seems to be gone |
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VanessaE |
OldCoder: my fork, https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-steel |
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VanessaE |
it's improved over the original steel mod anyway |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, it does not have |
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OldCoder |
those textures |
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OldCoder |
I see that pitriss and you discussed this before |
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OldCoder |
Item "steel:shingle_side_roofing" not defined |
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OldCoder |
Item "steel:shingle_outer_corner_roofing" not defined |
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OldCoder |
Does anybody know where these may be obtained? |
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* Krock |
wrote his 2k' th post |
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Krock |
erlehmann! |
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kilbith |
^ sfan5 |
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GhostDoge |
!tell erlehmann Fix yer connection |
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MinetestBot |
GhostDoge: yeah, sure, whatever |
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Jordach |
!ban erlehmann |
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Krock |
why does everybody try to clone mindcraft? |
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Calinou |
they find it cool |
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ShadowNinja |
~mode -b+b erlehmann!*@* erlehmann!*@*$##fix_your_connection |
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Krock |
1051 correctly titled mods exist :) |
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Amaz |
Did you find that from your search? |
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Krock |
yes. |
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Amaz |
:D |
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Krock |
296 diffrent mod creators |
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Krock |
!c 1051/296 |
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MinetestBot |
3.550675675675676 |
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Krock |
^ mods per user |
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Krock |
*mods per modder |
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Amaz |
That is the best search for the forum available. All the mods I've wanted to found, and looked through their to get, I've found on the first time. |
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Amaz |
*for the modding forums. |
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rubenwardy |
"Good move - But you can do better." |
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rubenwardy |
:( |
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rubenwardy |
and, Hi all! |
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GhostDoge |
Hej rubenwardy |
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Calinou |
hi rubenwardy |
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Calinou |
chess? |
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rubenwardy |
I only have 15 minutes |
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* sfan5 |
paws rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
I only have 15 minutes |
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Calinou |
OK |
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Calinou |
so 6 minute game? |
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rubenwardy |
sure |
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Calinou |
see notice |
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rubenwardy |
gtg. Bye all! |
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Krock |
bye rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
gg, Calinou. Maybe I'll beat you before the universe ends |
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Calinou |
https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone_torches |
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Calinou |
3D torches |
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kilbith |
pity that they aren't inclinated |
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nu|| |
hi guys. i am trying to run a game from my LAN server and i get all clients stuck on "item definitions..." no matter how long i wait |
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nu|| |
any clues? |
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kilbith |
your minetest version ? and told them to 'disable preload item visuals' |
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nu|| |
in terminal i can see the action of my player joining, but as a player nothing but "item definitions..." shows up |
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nu|| |
kilbith, the version is the latest grabbed from the minetest site |
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Calinou |
kilbith, I could use meshes now ;) but won't work on 0.4.10 |
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Calinou |
I keep stable support for all my mods |
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kilbith |
obviously |
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kilbith |
you'll can even add the future Irrlicht particles atop those (MC-like) ;) |
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Calinou |
need something client-side |
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Calinou |
server shouldn't deal with visuals too much |
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21:56:50: ERROR[main]: Access denied. Reason: Sorry, you can not connect with the name 'kroCk'. Are you 'krock? If yes, check the upper/lowercase or pick another name. |
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ElectronLibre |
Interesting. |
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Krock |
Only 8 lines.. |
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Krock |
of code |
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Jordach |
:> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0n_EAmIUAEf_M3.png:large |
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GhostDoge |
so true |
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FreeFull |
PHP should be replaced |
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FreeFull |
With something |
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ElectronLibre |
What exactly? |
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GhostDoge |
ElectronLibre: with a better language like ruby or python |
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FreeFull |
Something that has PHP's advantages without everything else |
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Krock |
Jordach, write a brainfuck compiler in brainfuck! |
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GhostDoge |
Krock: LOLCODE is better ;) |
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Krock |
no. |
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Krock |
Ook! Is better |
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GhostDoge |
Krock: I am not an orang-utan :P |
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Krock |
oh. |
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twoelk |
I think chef-code is quite nice and sort of unobviouse |
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twoelk |
an Hello World Souffle is served here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_%28Programmiersprache%29 |
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gravgun |
Krock: (late, I know) actually writing a BF compiler in BF wouldn't be that hard |
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Krock |
gravgun, tutorial pls |
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VanessaE |
why not just write in several languages at once? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyglot_(computing) |
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gravgun |
Krock: eh don't have any tutorial sadly... |
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gravgun |
didn't say it would be easy either |
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gravgun |
but it's just be a matter of storing corresponding assembly pieces in memory slots, reading input, comparing it to the possible operations, writing the cached ASM bits to output |
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gravgun |
depending on what operation was just read |
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maxaitor |
hi |
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Krock |
][-][ ][ |
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Calinou |
Carbone: Add highlandpools: generate water lakes above sea level. |
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sfan5 |
Nobody: Cares |
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GhostDoge |
sfan5: at least she cares :P "[nobody] (~nobody unaffiliated/outoufcontrol/bot/ufo/x-7872754): Supybot 0.83.4.1+git" |
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Zephlon |
How can you make a tool do something on right click instead of left click? I tried replacing on_use with on_rightclick in PilzAdam's throwing mod, but nothing happens when I right click. http://pastie.org/9675583 |
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GhostDoge |
Youtube: y u kill my firefox? |
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gravgun |
GhostDoge: you using HTML5 or Flash video? |
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GhostDoge |
Flash because I'm too stupid to figure out how to install these codecs on debian :/ |
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gravgun |
GhostDoge: just install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg already |
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gravgun |
FF enabled GStreamer backend not so long ago IIRC |
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gravgun |
better make use of it |
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gravgun |
If the Flash-based player still shows up, go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and click the big blue button |
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GhostDoge |
damn gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg isn't in the jessie repos for some reason :/ |
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FreeFull |
You don't need any codecs to watch youtube html5 videos |
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FreeFull |
Because Firefox has webm support built in |
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GhostDoge |
Everything I actually need right now is mp3 and H.264 support |
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sfan5 |
GhostDoge: FYI YT uses either vp9 or h.264 and vorbis or aac-le |
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GhostDoge |
sfan5: mp3 has other reasons |
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sfan5 |
anyway |
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sfan5 |
do you even ffmpeg |
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GhostDoge |
sfan5: I just did :P "ffmpeg -i Guncakes.mp3 Guncakes.flac" |
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exio4 |
>mp3 to flac |
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exio4 |
mfw |
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exio4 |
that is like converting a jpg to png |
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exio4 |
you already lost important information |
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* GhostDoge |
: Making no sense since 2000 plol |
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LandMine |
peeeeeeeeeeeps |
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hmmmm |
WOOOT |
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hmmmm |
internet's back |
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LandMine |
yay |
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hmmmm |
hello there LandMind |
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hmmmm |
LandMine rather |
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LandMine |
lol hi |
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hmmmm |
weren't you exiled from this channel for being an asshat a couple years ago? |
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hmmmm |
wb |
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LandMine |
i was yes |
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LandMine |
i was here all the time, under various alias but i have been forgiven |
