Time Nick Message 00:52 H-H-H ok mental note lol dont make an automated pickaxe machine that has 50 chests for storage and then forget to turn it of coz the cleanup is a PIA 00:56 xrazybud i wanna make one of those 00:57 H-H-H this is my first time playing with pipeworks mod over the last few days and its frigin awesome 01:13 Fritigern !tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: A pulldown menu listing all the (installed) mods, choosing one entry shows only the items from that one mod 01:14 Fritigern And of course MTB is MIA 01:17 OldCoder Where does obsidian come from? 01:19 Yellowberry LAVA_source + water 01:19 Yellowberry ^ OldCoder 01:21 OldCoder Yellowberry, if we can talk, that will be great. You told me that before. One of the kids has placed water next to lava. 01:21 OldCoder Nothing happens. I assume that it needs to be lava *source* 01:21 OldCoder Remember, I run worlds, I have not really played the game 01:21 OldCoder May we continue speaking in PM sometime when you are able to do so? 01:22 OldCoder I have been working pretty hard on several worlds, including yours, and would appreciate help 01:25 Fritigern OldCoder: Put water on top of lava, it generates obsidian. However, when water touches lava from the sides or the botton, it generates cobble 01:26 OldCoder On top of any lava or must it be lava source? 01:27 Fritigern It must be a lava source 01:27 OldCoder Thank you 01:28 Fritigern Welcome ;-) 01:28 OldCoder Is a lava cube that has moving patterns a source? 01:28 Yellowberry no 01:28 OldCoder All right 01:28 Yellowberry only the solid ones 01:28 Fritigern If you can scoop it up with a bucket, it's a source 01:28 OldCoder a non-moving lava cube is a source, then? 01:28 Yellowberry yes 01:28 OldCoder Yellow I really could use answers about saplings when you have time 01:29 OldCoder I am spending hours a day trying to answer questions there 01:29 Yellowberry i'm eating dinner ATM, but I could help soon 01:30 Fritigern OldCoder: Is the sampling thing something that i could possibly help you with? 01:30 Fritigern *sapling 01:31 Fritigern "Where does obsidian come from?" Well, when mommy lava and daddy water love eahother very much........ 01:32 OldCoder Fritigern, thank you. And heh. We will see what Yellowberry can do. 01:32 OldCoder I will request help from others when he is unable to continue. 01:32 OldCoder It is his mod and world, so he may wish first craft. 01:33 Fritigern I had hoped that the question would be a general one. Something like "hopw do i get saplings?" 01:33 OldCoder Fritigern he has not finished the tree code 01:33 OldCoder But could you possibly come and show the kids how to make obsidian 01:33 OldCoder One has been trying for an hour 01:33 OldCoder * first crack 01:34 Fritigern Okay, i will give it a whirl 01:34 OldCoder Server is minetest.org port 30021 01:39 OldCoder slime there is a test 01:39 OldCoder slime you must answer a question 01:39 OldCoder slime are you a polite player? 01:40 OldCoder O.K. the_kreator Fritigern is looking at the code 01:40 OldCoder Wrong window 01:40 Fritigern LOL 01:45 OldCoder Yellowberry, did you delete the Cool Lava Source ABM? 02:02 OldCoder Fritigern, you used the wrong password 02:02 OldCoder Need a reset? 02:03 Fritigern I don;t know. I'll try and see what's wrong. Might be CaPs 02:03 Fritigern There we go 02:03 OldCoder BTW sorry about teleporting you into lava before 02:03 OldCoder That stuff is pretty hot, I suppose 02:05 Yellowberry hehe 02:05 Yellowberry yeah 02:05 Yellowberry you would make fried bananas out of me with that stuff 02:05 Yellowberry ^ OldCoder 02:06 OldCoder Indeed 02:06 OldCoder Fritigern what do all of those CONTENT_IGNOREs look like to you? 02:06 * Yellowberry enjoys pretending to be a banana 02:07 OldCoder Yellowbanana the change worked, I will merge with your next pass 02:07 Fritigern OldCoder: I have no idea. First time i have seen an error like that 02:07 Yellowberry 14maybe? 02:07 OldCoder Well, that was obsidian, right? 02:07 Yellowberry OldCoder, just push change to repo please, I will accept 02:08 OldCoder Yellowberry, do I simply clone and push? 02:08 OldCoder What about auth? 02:08 Yellowberry ah 02:09 Yellowberry do you not have a GitHub account? 02:09 OldCoder I do 02:09 OldCoder I am BoldCoder IIRC 02:09 OldCoder checking 02:09 OldCoder Hang on 02:09 OldCoder debugging a world issue 02:09 Yellowberry just use email address as username and password as pass 02:09 OldCoder Fritigern are you saying 02:10 OldCoder Yellowberry you need to add me first, right? 02:10 Fritigern Looks like the error spam is torch related. Dunno how 02:10 OldCoder https://github.com/OldCoder 02:10 OldCoder I'll need to patch it out? 02:10 Yellowberry yeah, that could become a problem 02:10 OldCoder But how were the torches removed? 02:10 OldCoder What could become a problem? 02:10 Fritigern I dug them 02:11 OldCoder Is that world specific? 02:11 Yellowberry seeing as we don't want all the mods you added added to your copy 02:11 OldCoder Yellowberry you need to add me first, right? 02:11 OldCoder Yellowberry I can push just the change 02:11 Yellowberry ok 02:11 Yellowberry hold on 02:11 Fritigern Psss... Where can i find the news mod? 02:12 Yellowberry also, please pull in about 2 minutes, fishyWET added some stuff 02:12 OldCoder Fritigern I will give it to you shortly; I forget who gave it to me 02:12 OldCoder Yellowberry hang on a second 02:12 OldCoder DOn't merge his stuff ye 02:12 OldCoder DOn't merge his stuff yet * 02:12 Fritigern I was hoping for a link 02:12 Yellowberry OldCoder, I wont 02:13 OldCoder Boy there's a lot of those CONTENT IGNORE errors 02:13 OldCoder Fritigern I don't have one 02:13 OldCoder I will make one 02:14 OldCoder Yellowberry, just a few minutes 02:14 Fritigern BTW, what's wrong with the bones mod? I can't dig my own bones and the content appears to be wildly different than my starting inventory 02:14 OldCoder Good question 02:14 OldCoder One step at a time 02:20 Fritigern I wonder if the solution would be to restore default to... ermm... its defaults 02:41 wazupwiop hey guys, I am new 02:41 wazupwiop How do I pick up a furnace? 02:43 Cylus wazupwiop: Use a pick. 02:43 Cylus Any pick will work. 02:43 wazupwiop Will a wooden pick work? 02:43 Cylus wazupwiop: The furnace must be empty to pick up though. 02:43 Cylus A wooden pick will work. 02:43 wazupwiop I am left-clicking and it isn't picking up 02:44 Cylus Hmm. It worked last time I tried. I'll pull up my world and try again. 02:45 wazupwiop I am running Mac OSX Mavericks 02:45 wazupwiop On the 20140903 release 02:45 Cylus WEIRD. They changed it. Wooden picks will not work on furnaces any more. 02:46 Cylus It seems a stone pick will works. 02:46 Cylus I swear though, I thought wooden picks worked. They used to. 02:47 wazupwiop cool thanks 02:47 Cylus Yeah, no problem. 02:47 diemartin wazupwiop, just out of curiosity, are you "clicking", or holding the button? 02:47 wazupwiop holding 02:47 diemartin alright 02:48 diemartin (no offense intended, some people seem to assume nodes are dug by clicking :P) 02:49 wazupwiop haha 02:49 wazupwiop How often is minetest updated? 02:49 Cylus I think it varies. 02:49 Cylus Also, it depends on if you want stable or unstable Minetest. 02:50 wazupwiop Yeah. I am a dev, so I am thinking about taking a crack at adding some features. 02:50 Cylus Most people here tend to go for unstable Minetest, and get updates whenever they feel like it. 02:50 wazupwiop I am really impressed by the game. 02:50 wazupwiop It runs amazingly well. 02:51 wazupwiop have they added in mobs to fight yet? 02:51 Cylus Yeah, it's pretty sweet. I totally found this place by accident too. I was lucky that day. 02:51 Cylus Mobs are not in the default game, but people have created mods/modules/scripts to add them. 02:52 wazupwiop I have to say this is pretty amazing 02:53 wazupwiop has anyone ported computercraft to this yet? 02:53 Cylus The forum might be the place to look for such a mod. I think the popular mobs mod is "mobf". 02:53 Cylus I've never heard of "computercraft". Is that a Minecraft thing? 02:54 Cylus I think someone created a computers mod, but the computers are only decorative, not functional. 02:54 wazupwiop Yeah, computercraft was one of my favorite mods from MC 03:38 Yellowberry Cylus, its mod where you can write programs in lua for interactive computers 03:40 * Yellowberry just realized he is an hour too late 03:40 Cylus Yellowberry: Ah. So like out Lua Controllers, or whatever that mod is called? 03:41 Yellowberry sorta, but its like a command line type thing 03:41 Yellowberry you write the files outside the game then run them through the computer, like batch scrips 03:41 Yellowberry *scripts 03:41 Cylus Ah. Well it sounds like it's doable from here then, if someone wants to build it. 03:41 Yellowberry yeah 03:42 Yellowberry especially because minetest is lua natively, so no library implementation is needed 03:44 Cylus Hmm. Do these computer-run scripts effect the world around the computer, or just do things on the computer itself? 03:45 Yellowberry Cylus, they can effect the world around them if put into a special computer called a turtle 03:45 Yellowberry which can interact with the world with the certain tool you craft it with 03:46 Cylus Trippy. That might be kind of interesting. 03:49 Yellowberry yeah 03:56 Yellowberry Anyone awake and knows python around here? 03:59 Cylus I know Python. I'm also partially awake, Yellowberry. 03:59 Cylus SssssSSSSSsssss ...... 03:59 Yellowberry lol 03:59 Yellowberry could you help me debug something? 04:00 Cylus Alright, what's the problem? 04:00 Yellowberry #moontest please 04:21 Yellowberry I am surprised 04:58 Simcra o/ 06:16 OldCoder What is player breath? 06:25 Cylus OldCoder: It probably has to do with the new drowning mechanics. 07:06 OldCoder Cylus, yes; I'll need to learn it. There are no docs. 07:06 OldCoder Reviewed the code but not clear. Thanks. 08:55 Zeno` Scooboy doooby dooooooooooo 08:56 * Zeno` gives sfan5 a scooby snack 08:58 DuDraig I found the solution to my problem with nodes that have on_place set to minetest.rotate_node not calling the node after_place_node and global registered on_placenode callbacks. Anyone interested in this? 09:47 Jordach shit https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RlHATaVj_hl7.png 09:48 ElectronLibre O_O? 09:48 Zeno` works for me 09:49 Amaz And me. 09:49 * ElectronLibre can see the beginning of an email adress on another tab >_> 09:49 ElectronLibre It works perfectly here. 09:50 PenguinDad Works here too 09:51 Jordach [off] i probably pissed proller off enough to get xyz to do something...which doesn't mean shit anymore as either VE or SN is hosting the forums 09:51 Amaz XD 09:52 ElectronLibre Ok... I see... '_' 09:52 Zeno` Yeah, that's most likely it... iptables -A INPUT -s Jordachs_IP -j DROP 09:53 Zeno` I always choose the simplest answer 09:53 Zeno` I call it Zeno's Razor 09:54 * Zeno` looks at PenguinDad 09:54 Zeno` you... 09:54 Zeno` nvm 10:03 * PenguinDad why there's libsane but no libinsane 10:03 PenguinDad s/why/wonders why/ 10:09 Zeno` huh? 10:10 Zeno` lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 May 23 08:33 /usr/lib64/libinsane.so.1 -> libinsane.so.0.0.1 10:10 Zeno` looks fine to me 10:14 PenguinDad Zeno`: I don't have this library :( 10:15 Zeno` PenguinDad, I can give you the src code if you want insanity as well 10:16 * Zeno` suddenly realises his deception may be revealed and quickly codes up a library 10:30 Azelphur Just figured you guys might be interested, I'm here at MozFest 2014 with a bunch of older hardware that couldn't run Minecraft, Installed xubuntu and minetest on them and it's going down a storm, https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=1f052e64384d55a1eb6356b1bde76342 10:32 Azelphur A quick way I garnered interest was just setting the kids the challenge, "Dig to bedrock" while cackling like an evil bastard ;) 10:33 Jordach you genius bastard 10:33 Jordach even with technic and stuff installed, it takes me about a few hours to dig straight down a single KM 10:34 Azelphur haha :D 10:34 Azelphur and this is stock 10:38 Zeno` will keep them occupied 10:40 Azelphur indeed 10:40 Azelphur I'm just sitting here cackling manically, one kid has started to figure it out. 10:44 Azelphur https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=512c0a7099829100ebfa382a4685160f android builds are getting some love too 10:48 Jordach +1 for fullscreen 10:57 iqualfragile Azelphur: woho, you seem to be quite the risk taker, eh? 10:57 iqualfragile running a public owncloud? 10:57 Azelphur iqualfragile, why's that risky? it's designed for it 10:57 Jordach iqualfragile, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=159721#p159721 10:58 iqualfragile i read about critical owncloud problems like very 2nd month 10:58 iqualfragile are you the guy with the tatoos? 10:58 Azelphur iqualfragile, nope I'm the guy taking the photo 10:59 iqualfragile ah, makes sense 11:00 iqualfragile PenguinDad: no, seeing taht you are talking about libinsane why was entirely correct 11:01 iqualfragile *critical security problems 11:03 Jordach sfan5, !!cat https://i.imgur.com/TebzLzl.jpg 11:07 * Zeno` looks at PenguinDad. Want a Scooby Snack? 11:09 Zeno` no? 11:09 * Zeno` gives the Scooby Snack to iqualfragile 11:09 * iqualfragile keeps it 11:20 urbanizator Hey I have problems running minetest on ubuntu. It does not show the three buttons neither does it start fullscreen and now it started closing the moment I open it 11:21 urbanizator debug.txt = http://pastebin.com/7SRiRcxJ 11:21 kilbith your minetest version ? 11:21 urbanizator the one from the ubuntu store 11:21 urbanizator where can I see? 11:22 urbanizator minetest 0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1 11:22 kilbith avoid this one, download from here : http://www.minetest.net/download 11:22 kilbith it's 0.4.10 since July 11:22 urbanizator oh I thought if I add the ppa it would just work using the gui 11:22 urbanizator so I have to use command line then? 11:23 kilbith install MT 0.4.10 11:23 kilbith firstly 11:23 urbanizator oh its minetestc55 11:23 urbanizator that i need? 11:23 kilbith your ubuntu version ? 11:24 urbanizator 14.something 11:24 urbanizator anyway I now have 4.10 11:24 urbanizator it opened in the middle of my screen without the options to close/make smaller/minize 11:24 kilbith yes minetestc55 package 11:25 kilbith or this one which is more recent : https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+packages 11:25 urbanizator Yea it works now, tnx 11:25 kilbith yw 11:25 urbanizator annoying that if you search for just "minetest" that you get the wrong version 11:26 kilbith just avoid the "-store" or something 11:26 urbanizator Ubuntu Software Center? 11:27 kilbith i personally prefer synaptic 11:28 kilbith further infos 12:28 * GhostDoge barks 12:30 * Zeno` roars 12:30 * GhostDoge licks Zeno` 12:31 Zeno` yuck, yik, yukky 12:32 Zeno` brb, having another shower :( 12:38 * Zeno` looks around in a daze 12:38 Zeno` hark! who goes there? 12:39 * Zeno` shines torch into Wuzzy's eye. Identify thou self! 12:40 * Zeno` whirls around and looks behind 12:40 Zeno` hark! who goes there? 12:41 Zeno` I am surrounded my silent people! 12:41 Wuzzy lol 12:42 Wuzzy what's up? 12:43 brothersome Is there anyone working on the memory absorption of the game? 12:43 Zeno` brothersome, in what sense? 12:44 Zeno` Wuzzy, not much. I am calm now 12:44 Zeno` Wuzzy, you? 12:44 Wuzzy yea 12:45 Zeno` brothersome, I know some people have been indicating that the latest dev versions consume memory but I haven't seen this myself. Is this what you're referring to? 12:46 cheesecreamelbow can someone help me setup shadowninja's protection mod? the readme doesn't make sense to me 12:46 brothersome Thanks Zeno for responding, I had to put 1 GB extra in my Laptop but minetest still is not working when I came to some buildings, it consumes and consumes memory 12:46 Zeno` brothersome, what version? 12:46 cheesecreamelbow readme said If you wish to specify configuration options, such as whether players are allowed to protect their own areas with /protect (Disabled by default), you should check config.lua and set the appropriate settings in your minetest.conf. 12:46 brothersome Zeno, I use Ubuntu and I am at the latest version using the app 12:47 cheesecreamelbow but, there is no config.lua in the mod folder 12:47 brothersome Version is 0.4.10 12:47 Zeno` does minetest --version output anything extra? 12:47 brothersome Many times only the missing of textures 12:48 Zeno` whatever "minetest --version" (without the quotes) outputs might be useful 12:49 brothersome I use linuxgaming.us and when I ran to some buildings I see the memory increasing and then it swaps 12:50 brothersome Looking for the command of minestest --- it is not minetest (c55) 12:51 brothersome Minetest 0.4.10, Using Irrlicht 1.8.1, Build info: VER=0.4.10 12:52 brothersome Is it a minetest problem or Irrlicht problem? Somewhere 12:52 Zeno` I have fixed some mem leaks and so have others... 12:52 Zeno` (since then) 12:52 Zeno` just to confirm, this is the client you're talking about? 12:52 brothersome Yes 12:53 Zeno` let me look at the commit log 12:55 Zeno` There has been memory leak fixes, but I am not sure if they're affecting the client 12:56 Zeno` But, to answer your earlier question, yes people are looking at finding and fixing them all the time 12:56 brothersome When I am at the same node it calls Client::addnode several times, I do not know what that means 12:57 Zeno` how did you determine that? 12:57 brothersome I started with: minetest --info 12:57 Zeno` oh wait... are you playing singleplayer game? 12:57 brothersome No, linuxgaming.us , I am now at spawn 12:58 Zeno` hmm 13:00 brothersome I justed walked around spawn and it takes 400 MB extra 13:00 * Zeno` thinks 13:00 * brothersome using openbox 13:01 Zeno` if you go away from spawn does the memory decrease? 13:02 brothersome I do not see an declinement of memory in the windown running top 13:03 Zeno` I think a new release will be coming pretty soon. Maybe it's best to see what happens after it's released 13:04 brothersome Ok, I shall wait --- I just spend 30 Euro's on memory to get things running more smoothly 13:04 Zeno` unless BlockMen or someone else has a new Ubuntu build for you to tesdt 13:04 Zeno` well, the extra RAM won't go astray for other things as well ;) so it's not wasted 13:04 brothersome I'm a developer myself, If somebody has a testversion I can help 13:05 Zeno` brothersome, can you compile your own version then? 13:05 brothersome I have gcc and g++ on my computer 13:05 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest 13:06 Zeno` git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git and follow the README might be worth it 13:06 brothersome I can look for it, hopefully it is not too big for this celeron machine 13:06 Zeno` hmm 13:06 Zeno` probably not too big... many people compile on lower-end machines (it just takes longer) 13:07 Zeno` Does anybody know if there is a release date for 0.4.11? 13:07 brothersome I am now cloning 13:11 Zeno` I'll see what happens if I join that server 13:14 sfan5 Jordach: that picture looks like a paiting 13:14 sfan5 painting* 13:15 Zeno` wow ok 13:15 Zeno` so sitting at spawn my RAM usage just keeps going up 13:16 Zeno` what the... 13:16 brothersome How can I compile minetest? I do not see a configure script 13:16 Jordach brothersome, read the readme 13:17 sfan5 brothersome: cmake 13:18 sfan5 ahaha 13:18 sfan5 aw 13:18 sfan5 it's gone 13:18 Zeno` ok there is a problem somewhere bothersome. My RAM just keeps going up as well (30%) now 13:20 Zeno` compiling new client... bbiab 13:22 brothersome Strange --- CMAKE error --- Cannot find X11 13:22 sfan5 I guess you need X11 installed 13:23 sfan5 except you want a server only 13:23 iqualfragile why no wayland 13:23 GhostDoge brothersome: do you the have dev libraries minetest needs? 13:23 iqualfragile sfan5: make featurz plz 13:23 Zeno` x11-dev 13:24 sfan5 iqualfragile: do I like like I want to implement wayland support in irrlicht? 13:24 brothersome Ubuntu complains that it cannot find x11-dev 13:24 sfan5 like -> look 13:25 Zeno` I don't know the ubuntu package name :) 13:27 Zeno` anyway I can confirm that it's continually using up memory on that server 13:27 Zeno` I stopped when it got to 8GB 13:27 * sfan5 throws valgrind at Zeno` 13:28 Zeno` sfan5, and what doth thou thing I am doing right now :p 13:28 sfan5 dunno 13:28 Zeno` just takes a while hehe 13:28 Zeno` well, I am running the client under valgrind and connecting to that server ;) 13:29 Zeno` valgrind won't necessarily find leaks though (if they're all cleaned up at the end) 13:30 Zeno` I do know that OpenAL leaks, but not sure if that's what's happening here 13:32 Zeno` 0 frames per second hehe 13:32 Zeno` oh oh oh! 1 FPS 13:32 Amaz :D 13:33 GhostDoge Valgrind grinding your fps :D 13:33 Zeno` yeah! I love playing like this 13:36 Zeno` lost blocks in ProcessData... that's new 13:37 Zeno` oh... maybe particle spawners 13:38 Zeno` yeah that's where it's happening 13:38 Zeno` who looks after that area of the code? 13:40 sfan5 [redacted] - - [25/Oct/2014:13:39:51 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Linux/3.12.13-gentooBeAsT x86_64)" "-" 13:40 sfan5 ^ oh look, gentoo 13:41 Zeno` thank brothersome 13:41 Zeno` I'll try my best to report it 13:41 Zeno` thanks* 13:42 Zeno` I can't fix it myself because I don't really understand that part of the code (not looked at it yet) 13:42 Zeno` The part of the code I suspect is the issue* 13:48 brothersome I am now building minetest --- A lot of work to get to this stage 13:49 Zeno` brothersome, well it's worthwhile probably :D 13:49 Zeno` it won't fix your current issue, but... 13:49 brothersome Now 8 % 13:49 brothersome I can search for the code for memory 13:50 Zeno` I know what's the most likely cause now and have let the core devs know 13:50 Zeno` I'm between a rock and a hard place though 13:50 brothersome Thanks Zeno a lot 13:50 Zeno` if I fix the issue it will mess up 12 days work of mine that is not merged yet hehe 13:50 Zeno` perhaps that's selfish, but *sigh* 13:51 Zeno` I'm sure it'll be fixed now it's been brought to attention 13:51 brothersome Is it because I had that info log on? 13:52 cheesecreamelbow can someone help me with sahdowninjas protection mod? 13:52 Zeno` nah I think it's particle stuff 13:52 Zeno` sfan5, you can help me :D 13:52 sfan5 no 13:52 sfan5 busy being a ca 13:52 sfan5 t 13:52 Zeno` sfan5, by testing my PR 13:53 Zeno` cats like testing 13:53 sfan5 nah 13:53 Zeno` sheesh, tough crowd 13:53 Zeno` nobody will test it :/ 13:54 brothersome Testing what Zeno --- perhaps a client version? 13:54 Zeno` yeah :( 13:55 Zeno` not a version per. se. ... a cleanup 13:56 brothersome If I can help you, let me know ---- I am able to test a client --- I use linuxgaming.us as servefr 13:57 Zeno` it still won't fix your current issue, but yeah... the more testers the better: https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/tree/refactor_the_game 13:58 kilbith « nobody cares » - © proller Corp., all rights reserved. 14:03 brothersome Zeno, how to get your sources? 14:03 brothersome Going for tea now 14:03 Zeno` https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/tree/refactor_the_game 14:03 Zeno` https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest 14:05 Zeno` well, I may watch some TV now... 12:04AM here :) 14:05 kilbith you only sleep at day ? 14:06 Zeno` these days... yes 14:06 kilbith batman 14:06 Zeno` I lost my job 4 or 5 or 6 weeks ago because there was no work coming in 14:06 Zeno` and for some reason I've turned into a night owl 14:18 OldCoder Zeno`, read Swizec's book "Night Owls" 14:18 OldCoder I believe parts are free online 14:20 kilbith https://github.com/Swizec/nightowls 15:39 Calinou fffffff 15:39 Calinou trying to make HUD-without-hunger, the mod does nothing 15:53 GhostDoge Calinou: did you expect anything else? 15:56 Calinou health bar background and stuff like that 15:56 Calinou but anyway I'm not putting hud mod in Carbone 15:56 Calinou lag is clearly visible 16:01 Jordach what lag 16:01 Jordach i haven't seen any with my somewhat edited version 16:11 Calinou obvious lag of health compared to not having a HUD mod 16:17 Krock meow 16:18 * GhostDoge licks Krock 16:29 hassage hi 16:29 ElectronLibre Hello hassage. 16:29 * Krock licks GhostDoge 16:39 Fritigern !tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: A pulldown menu listing all the (installed) mods, choosing one entry shows only the items from that one mod 16:39 MinetestBot Fritigern: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around 16:41 Calinou !tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: non-ugly slot textures 16:41 MinetestBot Calinou: yeah, sure, whatever 16:41 GhostDoge Calinou: s/ugly/square/ 16:41 GhostDoge *non-ugly 16:41 Fritigern MT's gui as a whole is... erm.... not pretty 16:42 Calinou how would you improve it? 16:43 Fritigern Different graphics toolkit, like Qt perhaps 16:43 Calinou WTF?! 16:43 Calinou you want to implement a graphics toolkit in a game? 16:43 Calinou that is totally irrelevant to visuals anyway 16:43 Calinou it'd never be accepted 16:43 Calinou that's like wanting Boost libraries 16:44 Fritigern You asked, it's not my fault that you don;t like my answer 16:45 Calinou it's not a suitable answer 16:45 Calinou changing default colours, font… is one 16:45 Fritigern It's my answer and you'll have to deal with it 16:45 kilbith Fritigern: you can sort the items from a mod by searching with the name of the mod 16:45 Calinou eg. I'd like if gradient of buttons was reversed when you click on them 16:45 Calinou adds more effect than just offsetting the boc slightly 16:46 kilbith would be better to have category tabs instead 16:47 Fritigern kilbith: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5641 16:48 kilbith yes, like that 16:48 kilbith 'ported for UI 16:49 VanessaE ew. 16:49 Fritigern http://www.deviantart.com/art/Minetest-GUI-321089133 perhaps? 16:50 VanessaE better widgets, way worse theme. 16:51 GhostDoge Fritigern: for a nintendo ds maybe 16:51 Fritigern I'm also not too fond of the font. It feels like someone thought "wewll, this will do for now" and then never went back to it 16:52 GhostDoge Fritigern: you can already change the font 16:53 Calinou mockups are never actually made 16:53 Calinou rule 1 of mockups ^ 16:53 Calinou also it looks like crap 16:54 Fritigern Yeah, i wil have to play around with the font. However, i worry that people have adjusted stuff like buttons, HUD positions, etc with the current default font in mind. 16:54 Fritigern Calinou: Have you got anything better? 16:56 Calinou yes, with larger font you will need to adjust stuff 16:56 Calinou try Droid Sans 18 16:56 Calinou with shadow alpha 255 16:56 Calinou much better 16:56 Calinou (same font as Warsow's font used for console) 17:32 OldCoder I've got steel shingles which are extinct popping up. I have no idea how players managed to summon them. 17:32 OldCoder Does anybody have the original steel mod which defined steel shingles? 17:32 OldCoder It seems to be gone 17:35 VanessaE OldCoder: my fork, https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-steel 17:35 VanessaE it's improved over the original steel mod anyway 17:46 VanessaE bbl 17:47 OldCoder VanessaE, it does not have 17:47 OldCoder those textures 17:48 OldCoder I see that pitriss and you discussed this before 17:48 OldCoder Item "steel:shingle_side_roofing" not defined 17:48 OldCoder Item "steel:shingle_outer_corner_roofing" not defined 17:48 OldCoder Does anybody know where these may be obtained? 18:07 * Krock wrote his 2k' th post 18:08 Krock erlehmann! 18:08 kilbith ^ sfan5 18:09 GhostDoge !tell erlehmann Fix yer connection 18:09 MinetestBot GhostDoge: yeah, sure, whatever 18:13 Jordach !ban erlehmann 18:16 Krock why does everybody try to clone mindcraft? 18:16 Calinou they find it cool 18:18 ShadowNinja ~mode -b+b erlehmann!*@* erlehmann!*@*$##fix_your_connection 18:28 Krock 1051 correctly titled mods exist :) 18:29 Amaz Did you find that from your search? 18:29 Krock yes. 18:30 Amaz :D 18:30 Krock 296 diffrent mod creators 18:30 Krock !c 1051/296 18:30 MinetestBot 3.550675675675676 18:30 Krock ^ mods per user 18:31 Krock *mods per modder 18:31 Amaz That is the best search for the forum available. All the mods I've wanted to found, and looked through their to get, I've found on the first time. 18:31 Amaz *for the modding forums. 18:38 rubenwardy "Good move - But you can do better." 18:38 rubenwardy :( 18:38 rubenwardy and, Hi all! 18:42 GhostDoge Hej rubenwardy 18:43 Calinou hi rubenwardy 18:43 Calinou chess? 18:43 rubenwardy I only have 15 minutes 18:43 * sfan5 paws rubenwardy 18:44 rubenwardy I only have 15 minutes 18:44 Calinou OK 18:44 Calinou so 6 minute game? 18:44 rubenwardy sure 18:44 Calinou see notice 19:01 rubenwardy gtg. Bye all! 19:01 Krock bye rubenwardy 19:02 rubenwardy gg, Calinou. Maybe I'll beat you before the universe ends 19:07 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone_torches 19:07 Calinou 3D torches 19:08 kilbith pity that they aren't inclinated 19:09 nu|| hi guys. i am trying to run a game from my LAN server and i get all clients stuck on "item definitions..." no matter how long i wait 19:09 nu|| any clues? 19:10 kilbith your minetest version ? and told them to 'disable preload item visuals' 19:10 nu|| in terminal i can see the action of my player joining, but as a player nothing but "item definitions..." shows up 19:11 nu|| kilbith, the version is the latest grabbed from the minetest site 19:16 Calinou kilbith, I could use meshes now ;) but won't work on 0.4.10 19:16 Calinou I keep stable support for all my mods 19:16 kilbith obviously 19:19 kilbith you'll can even add the future Irrlicht particles atop those (MC-like) ;) 19:23 Calinou need something client-side 19:23 Calinou server shouldn't deal with visuals too much 19:53 Krock 21:56:50: ERROR[main]: Access denied. Reason: Sorry, you can not connect with the name 'kroCk'. Are you 'krock? If yes, check the upper/lowercase or pick another name. 19:55 ElectronLibre Interesting. 19:55 Krock Only 8 lines.. 19:55 Krock of code 19:57 Jordach :> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0n_EAmIUAEf_M3.png:large 20:02 GhostDoge so true 20:06 FreeFull PHP should be replaced 20:07 FreeFull With something 20:07 ElectronLibre What exactly? 20:08 GhostDoge ElectronLibre: with a better language like ruby or python 20:10 FreeFull Something that has PHP's advantages without everything else 20:17 Krock Jordach, write a brainfuck compiler in brainfuck! 20:20 GhostDoge Krock: LOLCODE is better ;) 20:20 Krock no. 20:20 Krock Ook! Is better 20:24 GhostDoge Krock: I am not an orang-utan :P 20:24 Krock oh. 20:25 twoelk I think chef-code is quite nice and sort of unobviouse 20:27 twoelk an Hello World Souffle is served here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_%28Programmiersprache%29 20:33 gravgun Krock: (late, I know) actually writing a BF compiler in BF wouldn't be that hard 20:33 Krock gravgun, tutorial pls 20:33 VanessaE why not just write in several languages at once? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyglot_(computing) 20:33 gravgun Krock: eh don't have any tutorial sadly... 20:34 gravgun didn't say it would be easy either 20:36 gravgun but it's just be a matter of storing corresponding assembly pieces in memory slots, reading input, comparing it to the possible operations, writing the cached ASM bits to output 20:36 gravgun depending on what operation was just read 21:11 maxaitor hi 21:11 Krock ][-][ ][ 21:18 Calinou Carbone: Add highlandpools: generate water lakes above sea level. 21:18 sfan5 Nobody: Cares 21:25 GhostDoge sfan5: at least she cares :P "[nobody] (~nobody@unaffiliated/outoufcontrol/bot/ufo/x-7872754): Supybot 0.83.4.1+git" 21:36 Zephlon How can you make a tool do something on right click instead of left click? I tried replacing on_use with on_rightclick in PilzAdam's throwing mod, but nothing happens when I right click. http://pastie.org/9675583 21:58 GhostDoge Youtube: y u kill my firefox? 21:58 gravgun GhostDoge: you using HTML5 or Flash video? 21:59 GhostDoge Flash because I'm too stupid to figure out how to install these codecs on debian :/ 22:01 gravgun GhostDoge: just install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg already 22:01 gravgun FF enabled GStreamer backend not so long ago IIRC 22:01 gravgun better make use of it 22:02 gravgun If the Flash-based player still shows up, go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and click the big blue button 22:05 GhostDoge damn gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg isn't in the jessie repos for some reason :/ 22:09 FreeFull You don't need any codecs to watch youtube html5 videos 22:10 FreeFull Because Firefox has webm support built in 22:14 GhostDoge Everything I actually need right now is mp3 and H.264 support 22:27 sfan5 GhostDoge: FYI YT uses either vp9 or h.264 and vorbis or aac-le 22:28 GhostDoge sfan5: mp3 has other reasons 22:28 sfan5 anyway 22:28 sfan5 do you even ffmpeg 22:33 GhostDoge sfan5: I just did :P "ffmpeg -i Guncakes.mp3 Guncakes.flac" 22:34 exio4 >mp3 to flac 22:34 exio4 mfw 22:34 exio4 that is like converting a jpg to png 22:34 exio4 you already lost important information 22:39 * GhostDoge : Making no sense since 2000 plol 22:40 LandMine peeeeeeeeeeeps 23:50 hmmmm WOOOT 23:50 hmmmm internet's back 23:50 LandMine yay 23:50 hmmmm hello there LandMind 23:50 hmmmm LandMine rather 23:51 LandMine lol hi 23:51 hmmmm weren't you exiled from this channel for being an asshat a couple years ago? 23:52 hmmmm wb 23:55 LandMine i was yes 23:55 LandMine i was here all the time, under various alias but i have been forgiven