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LemonLake |
does anyone know the name of that weird line that sometimes moves down? |
00:09 |
LemonLake |
in irc |
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kahrl |
what line? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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* jentron |
just watched a youtube minecraft video of someone racing on a pig.... |
00:47 |
* jentron |
wants pigs we can ride and steer! |
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luizrpgluiz |
I really wanted a teacher, so I can learn best Moon and C/C++ |
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ecutruin |
Hey asie, btw. :P |
08:52 |
asie |
hi ecu |
08:59 |
ecutruin |
asie, as I was saying before on twitter. I do like Minetest a lot, and its definitely possible to make awesome things with it, I just forsee issues with choosing to mod for it vs MC. |
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09:01 |
ecutruin |
Of course, as you mentioned, I could open a github issue.. but I'd likely have to open quite a few to get the features needed to effectively make a lot of the stuff I'd want to. |
09:01 |
ecutruin |
Its honestly just not worth the time. |
09:02 |
ecutruin |
I would be better off just building my own engine at that point, as at least then I can focus on what types of things I want (which is kind of what I'm doing, currently). |
09:04 |
ecutruin |
Anyways, instead of continually back and forthing on twitter, figured I'd just say that to ya here, asie. ^-^ I do definitely think MT has a ton of potential and have this channel on auto-connect to keep an eye on it, but its not "there" yet in my opinion. |
09:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
uh |
09:05 |
asie |
ecutruin: so open them |
09:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
hundreds of people do think its worth the time |
09:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
or at least several dozen |
09:06 |
ecutruin |
asie, no. I don't feel like spending my limited time opening tons of github issues and conversing on the issues back and forth. As I said, in my case, that time is better spent studying games, coding my own game, etc. |
09:06 |
asie |
I guess |
09:07 |
ecutruin |
ThatGraemeGuy, don't mistake my comments for saying MT isn't worth developing... I'm stating that I personally don't have the time to try to get features added that I'd need in order to make the types of content I wish to. |
09:08 |
ecutruin |
When, I could instead, spend that time towards just developing my own game via Unity and have all the feautres I want and then some. |
09:08 |
* PenguinDad |
jumps out the window |
09:10 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
ecutruin: I understand what you are saying, but then why even bring it up? There are a ton of contributors, and realistically nobody really worries whether your personal wishlist is catered to. So why even bring it up? Seems odd |
09:11 |
ecutruin |
ThatGraemeGuy, because I responded to asie on twitter, who I happen to follow. ^-^ I was just getting out what I would have said on twitter here instead. |
09:12 |
asie |
yeah |
09:12 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
mmmkay |
09:13 |
ecutruin |
As for the feature issues, they aren't really a "personal wishlist" as such. More of a series of issues with the engine's design in its current form.. Such as all animations repeating (aka you cannot execute an animation only once). Another such issues is that entities have no clientside prediction. |
09:13 |
ecutruin |
These are both core issues that area already effecting existing mods/games on MT. |
09:14 |
ecutruin |
No dynamic models is also an issue if you wanted to encourage modders from MC to move to MT. No actual particle engine. The list goes on. |
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09:16 |
ecutruin |
So really, its isn't about "me", I just used me as an example as I happen to be such a designer (came from the MC community). In addition, I know and converse with many of the other large mod creators in the MC community, so I have an idea as to what kind of issues would be faced with moving to MT. |
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09:17 |
PenguinDad |
Dynamic models? |
09:18 |
ecutruin |
PenguinDad, yes.. such as being able to alter node models at runtime.. say I want to throw a brick slab on top of a dirt slab, in the same block.. or place a wire on the ground and put a slab over it. Creating separate nodes for every single possibility is not efficient or good design. |
09:22 |
PenguinDad |
The addition of param2 to glasslike_framed is already a step in that direction |
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ecutruin |
PenguinDad, unfortunately you'd be wrong in this case. Maybe the code helps in that direction, but hardcoding additional drawtypes is not really good for customization in mods. |
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ecutruin |
Now, if they hardcoded something akin to ForgeMultipart.. and allowed you to supply models for subparts, that's be better. That's probably how I'll handle it in my project. |
09:26 |
ecutruin |
To be honest, I really have no desire to really dive into this issue in depth, unless you really want to.. I spoke with some of the larger modders in the MT community about this already, as well as a few of the developers. |
09:26 |
ecutruin |
Eventually, I expect MT will be a pretty large thing (if someone else doesn't to it first, I suppose).. but as of right now.. MC is a better solution for those that want more features. |
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LemonLake |
yoyo |
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11:00 |
jojoa1997_ |
And thus the mornings of boredom starts. I love learning but can barely tolerate school. |
11:03 |
LemonLake |
lol |
11:03 |
jojoa1997_ |
Its ironic |
11:03 |
reactor |
School is a good place to learn things, indeed. |
11:04 |
jojoa1997_ |
I can't bring myself to code anything during the summer when I have time but during school when I have none I want to code alot |
11:04 |
reactor |
Suppose it's no better in your country. Might as well just skip it and read on your own. |
11:04 |
jojoa1997_ |
reactor: hence why I am taking college classes |
11:05 |
jojoa1997_ |
Nah without school my socialization would be here every once in a while |
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11:07 |
reactor |
What was the point of all those literature and history and blablabla classes anyway? |
11:09 |
twoelk |
so that you can win quiz shows by knowing irrelevant data |
11:09 |
reactor |
Heh... |
11:09 |
Exio4 |
lol |
11:10 |
Exio4 |
hey, i like coding and reading about history |
11:11 |
twoelk |
I code when I have to but I read a lot more about history than I can actually afford to spend time on |
11:12 |
Exio4 |
i need a day with 48-50 hours |
11:12 |
reactor |
Alright, fint. It's fun to read. Somtimes! |
11:12 |
Exio4 |
sometimes? |
11:12 |
reactor |
Sometimes. |
11:13 |
Exio4 |
i'd love to spend my whole life learning (history, languages) and coding! |
11:13 |
Exio4 |
compilers and operating systems are an awesome topic too |
11:14 |
reactor |
And code must solve some problem. What's the point otherwise? |
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11:16 |
twoelk |
solving problems is the only reason that forces me to code :-D |
11:17 |
reactor |
There are many-many unsolved mysteries in the present day, for example take a look at solid state physics -- yet we spend our precious time reading about some wacko's feelings or things happened before the advent of science. |
11:19 |
twoelk |
actually I would rather develope a nice idea and tell it to someone who can solve it better and quicker than me. Somehow though whatever company I work at I end up beeing the coding guy everybody tells his admittingly sometimes good ideas. - and of I go scriptkidding some magic |
11:23 |
Exio4 |
reactor, you haven't code in haskell, have you? |
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11:23 |
reactor |
Exio4: what's the point? |
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11:24 |
Exio4 |
reactor, it is a functional programming language, with an awesome type system, and is rooted in some concepts from category theory |
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11:25 |
jojoa1997_ |
Lol Exio 48-50 hours a day |
11:25 |
reactor |
We use C and FORTRAN, they are doing fine... so far. |
11:25 |
reactor |
I'll take a look at Haskell. |
11:27 |
Exio4 |
C is nice, but it is too low level for some things |
11:27 |
* sfan5 |
licks jojoa1997_ |
11:27 |
sfan5 |
<LemonLake> does anyone know the name of that weird line that sometimes moves down? |
11:27 |
sfan5 |
last-read-line |
11:27 |
LemonLake |
thanks |
11:27 |
LemonLake |
i worked out that it moves when the client wasnt in focus |
11:28 |
Exio4 |
read-eval-print-loop |
11:28 |
Exio4 |
,google LYAH |
11:28 |
Exio4 |
!google LYAH |
11:28 |
Exio4 |
:( how do i google |
11:28 |
sfan5 |
!g google |
11:28 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.google.com/ |
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11:29 |
Exio4 |
!g lyah |
11:29 |
MinetestBot |
Exio4: http://learnyouahaskell.com/ |
11:29 |
Exio4 |
^^ :D |
11:30 |
sfan5 |
!g exio4 |
11:30 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: https://github.com/EXio4 |
11:30 |
Exio4 |
Mittagessen |
11:31 |
Exio4 |
is mittage "half"? |
11:31 |
sfan5 |
what? |
11:31 |
sfan5 |
Mittagessen is lunch |
11:31 |
Exio4 |
nvm |
11:31 |
twoelk |
mid day eating |
11:31 |
Exio4 |
that ^ :P |
11:32 |
Exio4 |
sounds like Mittage ++ essen |
11:32 |
Exio4 |
so what is Mittage? |
11:32 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
11:32 |
sfan5 |
Mittag = mid day, Mittage is the plural |
11:32 |
sfan5 |
but I don't think you can eat mid days |
11:32 |
sfan5 |
:P |
11:33 |
twoelk |
Exio4: what was your native language? |
11:34 |
sfan5 |
spanish IIRC |
11:34 |
* jojoa1997_ |
licks sfan5 |
11:34 |
Exio4 |
yeah, spanish |
11:34 |
jojoa1997_ |
Exio4: should speak english |
11:35 |
jojoa1997_ |
I am waiting in the assistant principles office since I have no first period and things are being worked out |
11:35 |
* sfan5 |
meows at jojoa1997_ |
11:35 |
jojoa1997_ |
Some student sees me and says "you in trouble already?" |
11:35 |
jojoa1997_ |
Come on I never get in trouble |
11:35 |
* jojoa1997_ |
pets sfan5 |
11:36 |
sfan5 |
<jojoa1997_> Come on I never get in trouble |
11:36 |
jojoa1997_ |
I'm serious |
11:37 |
jojoa1997_ |
I am in here so I won't be considered breaking the law because I am at school before 10 minutes of my first scheduled class |
11:37 |
Exio4 |
what |
11:37 |
twoelk |
Exio4: well all germanic language share a great deal of words so it is quite interesting once you get the hang of it. I guess pretty similar to the romance languages once you have a basic idea of latin. |
11:39 |
twoelk |
jojoa1997_: sounds like a school with paranoic security issues |
11:39 |
jojoa1997_ |
New rule implemented this year |
11:39 |
Exio4 |
twoelk, i'll learn latin! somewhen! |
11:39 |
jojoa1997_ |
I was gonna stay in the library to work on my college class but |
11:40 |
jojoa1997_ |
I guess I have to be library help |
11:40 |
jojoa1997_ |
At least there will be free time |
11:40 |
Exio4 |
so far i'm learning a little bit of german just for the lulz, because if everything goes well, i'll never need it |
11:41 |
jojoa1997_ |
Exio it could help you later on ;-) |
11:41 |
twoelk |
I was a total failure in latin classes but what maneged to stay in my head has been a wealth of information eversince ;-P |
11:42 |
Exio4 |
twoelk, get a duolingo account! |
11:43 |
Exio4 |
and memrise |
11:43 |
twoelk |
whatfor? |
11:44 |
Exio4 |
learning languages |
11:44 |
Exio4 |
like, spanish, italian, :P |
11:45 |
twoelk |
hm could be usefull, but I'm no good at learning languages in an learning environment |
11:45 |
sfan5 |
>no japanese |
11:45 |
sfan5 |
pls |
11:46 |
twoelk |
I usually pick them up as I have to use them |
11:46 |
Exio4 |
twoelk, same here |
11:47 |
Exio4 |
but duolingo is somehow nice :P |
11:47 |
twoelk |
I spent severall months in arabian countries and it was fascinating how even the script sort of crept into my head, not that I'm fast at this though |
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11:50 |
Exio4 |
my english is sucky, bit i'm pretty sure if i had to go to the US or UK, i'll improve it a lot :P |
11:53 |
jojoa1997_ |
When is the |
11:53 |
jojoa1997_ |
lady gonna get here!!! |
11:53 |
twoelk |
really speacking to people is the best lesson, except for watching movies maybe |
11:54 |
jojoa1997_ |
Exio4 you will not improve by coming too the us |
11:54 |
Exio4 |
i will |
11:55 |
twoelk |
my english is good enough to go unnoticed for a while, but my dialect is all over the place |
11:55 |
Exio4 |
Schokolade |
11:55 |
Exio4 |
nice word and easy to pronounce, why can't all the words be that way? ;P |
11:56 |
Exio4 |
twoelk, my english isn't that good though :P |
11:56 |
jojoa1997_ |
Exio4 spoken English is so different than written proper english |
11:56 |
jojoa1997_ |
And slang is even worse |
11:57 |
twoelk |
slang and dialects are difficult everywhere |
11:58 |
* PenguinDad |
hands Exio4 a bit of Schokolade |
11:59 |
* Exio4 |
isst it :3 |
11:59 |
Exio4 |
it :D? |
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twoelk |
? |
12:01 |
twoelk |
ist=is |
12:01 |
twoelk |
it=es |
12:01 |
twoelk |
it is = es ist |
12:01 |
Exio4 |
yeah, but i don't know if "exio4 isst es" is correct |
12:01 |
Exio4 |
isn't isst = eat? |
12:01 |
Exio4 |
but he/she/it? |
12:01 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: "die Schokolade" -> "isst sie" |
12:01 |
twoelk |
ah you are right |
12:02 |
Exio4 |
sie? k |
12:02 |
sfan5 |
chocolate is obviously female |
12:02 |
twoelk |
can't get used to the new spelling rules |
12:03 |
Exio4 |
sfan5, "el chocolate" in spanish |
12:03 |
Exio4 |
el = male |
12:04 |
sfan5 |
the only language where it isn't this weird is japanese |
12:04 |
sfan5 |
and probably chinese |
12:04 |
sfan5 |
and some other ones |
12:04 |
Exio4 |
why? |
12:04 |
sfan5 |
w/e |
12:04 |
twoelk |
oh but you have other pits to fall into there |
12:05 |
Exio4 |
"Obst ist süß" |
12:05 |
twoelk |
they have a complete universe about who addresses whom |
12:05 |
twoelk |
and politeness rules |
12:07 |
* twoelk |
had to look at the weblog to read that :-( |
12:08 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: "fruits are cute" or "fruits are sweet" ? |
12:08 |
Exio4 |
sweet |
12:09 |
Exio4 |
sfan5 ist süß nicht |
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sfan5 |
:( |
12:09 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: put the "nicht" before the adjective |
12:09 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: it's like a ! in programming |
12:09 |
Exio4 |
before? |
12:09 |
Exio4 |
so duolingo is wrong |
12:11 |
sfan5 |
apparentlly |
12:11 |
sfan5 |
-l |
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Exio4 |
isn't it valid that way somewhere? |
12:12 |
Exio4 |
(in germany) |
12:13 |
sfan5 |
not that I know of |
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ElectronLibre |
Hi everyone. |
12:16 |
sfan5 |
hi |
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PenguinDad |
My connection always freaks out during thunderstorms :/ |
12:28 |
reactor |
ISPs don't give a fuck about customers... |
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Megaf |
!seen LazyJ |
12:30 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: lazyj was last seen at 2014-08-15 18:20:55 UTC on #minetest |
12:31 |
Megaf |
!seen Lukc |
12:31 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen lukc around. |
12:32 |
twoelk |
Exio4: ok, took an English lesson in duolingo and learnt what I allready knew: my spelling sucks in any language |
12:36 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
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Megaf |
twoelk: I know the feeling bro |
12:37 |
Megaf |
so, is duolingo any good? |
12:38 |
twoelk |
better than nothing, I guess, but still a robot |
12:41 |
twoelk |
I don't think duolingo would be able to teach me much as it is pretty far off from the way I usually acquire languages |
12:42 |
Exio4 |
twoelk, hah |
12:43 |
twoelk |
We once had a french girl teaching us in class when I was 10 or so. She made us buy and sell stuff in a makeshift shop. That may be the single lesson where I learnt most of my french |
12:44 |
twoelk |
That she was pretty cute may have helped though |
12:44 |
Exio4 |
i'm pretty sure that was the real reason |
12:44 |
Exio4 |
hot french teacher + being 10yo |
12:45 |
twoelk |
to be honest maybe sex is indeed the best motivation for anything in life |
12:45 |
Exio4 |
hah |
12:47 |
twoelk |
at university one professor used to show a lot of pictures during lectures. With the one or other "offtopic" one now and then = popular lectures where nobody fell asleep |
12:48 |
twoelk |
they stopped him though because the pictures were - well - offtopic |
12:51 |
Exio4 |
i think a non-boring class is actually waay better than any other class |
12:51 |
Exio4 |
lecture* |
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twoelk |
I wasn't bored much in school. but I did scribble and draw a lot so if they had tied my hands maybe I would have fallen asleep, don't really know |
12:56 |
Exio4 |
my drawing sucks |
12:57 |
Exio4 |
lets see how amazing memrise is |
12:57 |
twoelk |
I didn't say it was any good, just my way to understand and memorize things |
13:01 |
twoelk |
if you want to make a correct drawing of say a sailing ship, you have to what is were and it is easier if you know why. So drawing something makes you really look at it and maybe understanding the functions |
13:01 |
twoelk |
put in another "know" |
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luizrpgluiz |
HI |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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FreeFull |
What happens to what is in your crafting slots when you die with the bones mod? |
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PenguinDad |
FreeFull: iirc that inventory is kept as is |
14:23 |
reactor |
FreeFull: you likely lose it. |
14:23 |
reactor |
Oh come on people... why not use dropondie by default? |
14:23 |
reactor |
Bones are clumsy! |
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14:25 |
PenguinDad |
Why not use destroyondie by default? |
14:29 |
Enke |
An edited version of dropondie that only drops certain items, so that death isn't AS bad? |
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FreeFull |
At least you don't have to break bones anymore |
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14:35 |
PenguinDad |
In latest minetest_game you can punch simply punch them |
14:36 |
PenguinDad |
-punch |
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14:52 |
sapier |
what's best way to get a list of playernames in lua? guess someone know better then me |
14:54 |
LemonLake |
get a list of players |
14:54 |
LemonLake |
then get their names |
14:56 |
sapier |
what's the command ... can't find it in lua_api.... to big that file |
14:57 |
LemonLake |
get_connected_players |
14:57 |
LemonLake |
returns a table of objectrefs |
14:57 |
LemonLake |
loop through that and get their names |
14:58 |
sapier |
ahh get_connected_players .. that's been what I was looking for ... thanks! |
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LemonLake |
wait what |
15:27 |
LemonLake |
oh |
15:28 |
LemonLake |
that ip was very similar to mine, freaked me out |
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Calinou |
people are always freaked out whenever they read their own IP |
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sfan5 |
LemonLake: was just markv's IP |
15:45 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: and I'd suggest using a cloak anyway |
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sfan5 |
[redacted] - - [19/Aug/2014:11:50:55 -0400] "GET /list HTTP/1.1" 200 60415 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Darwin/14.0.0 iPhone5,2)" "-" |
15:51 |
sfan5 |
holy shit |
15:51 |
sfan5 |
what |
15:51 |
sfan5 |
since when do we have 0.4.10 on iOS? |
15:51 |
VanessaE |
buildcrap got updated. |
15:51 |
sfan5 |
oh |
15:52 |
sfan5 |
that explains it |
15:52 |
proller |
deny all requests from iPhone to list |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
why would I do that? |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
the buildcrap ppl would just remove the user agent |
15:53 |
proller |
because you can |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
and leave servers with no means to block mobile clients |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
"Minetest/0.4.10 (Darwin/14.0.0 iPad4,1)" |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
I wonder how good it works there |
15:54 |
VanessaE |
not much better than 0.4.8 did I guess. |
15:54 |
sfan5 |
you tested it on an iPad? |
15:54 |
VanessaE |
I have not but I have plenty of users on my servers who use ipads/iphones. |
15:55 |
sfan5 |
wow |
15:55 |
VanessaE |
their biggest complaints are "lag" (which I take to mean low FPS) and my signs don't work right on the older client. |
15:55 |
sfan5 |
there are WAY too many clients that still use <= 0.48 |
15:55 |
Mikeonline |
hi |
15:55 |
VanessaE |
hi |
15:55 |
sfan5 |
(whose user agent is only "Minetest") |
15:56 |
LemonLake |
how would one get a cloak |
15:56 |
sfan5 |
ask in #freenode |
15:56 |
sfan5 |
when the staff are around they'll give you one |
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15:57 |
nman3600 |
Hi |
15:57 |
LemonLake |
yo |
15:57 |
sfan5 |
I'd guess armv7l clients are android |
15:57 |
sfan5 |
if so we got many android clients |
15:58 |
LemonLake |
I wouldn't mind Minetest on iOS but only if it's actually legal. |
15:58 |
VanessaE |
yep |
15:58 |
LemonLake |
Buildcraft is illegal, yes? |
15:58 |
sfan5 |
yes |
15:58 |
VanessaE |
LemonLake: quasi-legal |
15:58 |
VanessaE |
they released their sources |
15:58 |
sfan5 |
hm |
15:58 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
15:58 |
sfan5 |
for iOS too? |
15:58 |
VanessaE |
but it's unclear if those sources can build into the client the users are using. |
15:59 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: idk about the iOS version. Android though for sure, if the sources match. |
15:59 |
sfan5 |
damn |
15:59 |
sfan5 |
really |
15:59 |
sfan5 |
lots lots and lots of clients <= 0.4.8 |
15:59 |
VanessaE |
strict protocol checking :) |
16:00 |
sfan5 |
we should focus on somehow being able to tell people to update |
16:00 |
LemonLake |
Though have you seen how many re-releases of Minetest they have? |
16:00 |
VanessaE |
I'm probably gonna turn that on soon, since 0.4.10 is available for everything now |
16:00 |
sfan5 |
hm |
16:01 |
sfan5 |
theoretically we could fill the serverlist with a server named "Please update your client, you are using 0.4.8 or older, 0.4.10 is available for download at http://minetest.net/download" |
16:01 |
sfan5 |
for people using 0.4.8 or older |
16:01 |
VanessaE |
that's a good idea actually. |
16:01 |
proller |
and ban them! |
16:01 |
VanessaE |
but only for clients < 0.4.10 |
16:01 |
VanessaE |
shut up, proller |
16:01 |
sfan5 |
maybe they still want to use the server list |
16:01 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: 0.4.9 and older - there's no reason to run anything older than 0.4.10 imho |
16:02 |
sfan5 |
so we should maybe just do "<the text I just said>" "--------" "--------" "-------" <real entries> |
16:02 |
VanessaE |
fill the top 6 slots with the upgrade warning |
16:02 |
LemonLake |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but https://cdn.mediacru.sh/yf1dydNV6AzV.png |
16:02 |
LemonLake |
These are all Minecraft forks |
16:02 |
sfan5 |
[redacted] - - [19/Aug/2014:12:02:23 -0400] "GET /'+(escapeHTML(server.url))+' HTTP/1.1" 404 209 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)" "-" |
16:02 |
sfan5 |
lol |
16:02 |
LemonLake |
s/Minecraft/Minetest |
16:02 |
sfan5 |
fail |
16:02 |
LemonLake |
+/ |
16:02 |
LemonLake |
jezs |
16:02 |
VanessaE |
LemonLake: those are all buildcrap, yeah |
16:03 |
Calinou |
<VanessaE> but it's unclear if those sources can build into the client the users are using. |
16:03 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: not forks, but (crappy) ports |
16:03 |
Calinou |
yeah, no verifcation is enforced with Google Play |
16:03 |
Calinou |
I think F-Droid rebuilds all packages, so that the source corresponds to the build. |
16:03 |
LemonLake |
the dudes at GameABC studio are real +Cnts |
16:03 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: you can always send a DMCA |
16:03 |
VanessaE |
LemonLake: the one marked "Buildcraft 2" is the latest, 0.4.10-based version |
16:03 |
LemonLake |
Calinou: As long as you pay the $25 license, you're good to go |
16:03 |
Calinou |
we tried, didn't work, sfan5? |
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16:03 |
sfan5 |
last year I got 3 ports down by sending a dmca |
16:04 |
VanessaE |
LemonLake: except I don't know about that voxelgarden one |
16:04 |
Calinou |
the other way is, get Mojang to sue them for trademark violation 8) |
16:04 |
Calinou |
for having “craft†|
16:04 |
Calinou |
(I'm sure it can be deemed confusing with skilled enough lawyers) |
16:04 |
LemonLake |
VanessaE: Looks like Minetest to me. |
16:04 |
LemonLake |
Haha. |
16:04 |
PenguinDad |
It even uses the logo of the voxelgarden game |
16:04 |
Calinou |
sfan5, I thought only celeron55 could send them |
16:04 |
LemonLake |
It's literally a clone of Worldcraft. |
16:04 |
LemonLake |
Exact same code. |
16:05 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: anyone with a stake in the code I would think. |
16:06 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: I have code in the Minetest engine too |
16:06 |
Calinou |
I have 10 lines! |
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16:07 |
sfan5 |
reactor: omg pls2not explode |
16:07 |
LemonLake |
Calinou: still more than me |
16:07 |
reactor |
sfan5: ? |
16:07 |
reactor |
Reactors rarely explode. More often, they have a meltdown. |
16:07 |
sfan5 |
reactor: nothing; you run the <russion city> name server, right? |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
russian* |
16:08 |
reactor |
Not anymore. |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
:( |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
y not? |
16:08 |
reactor |
It doesn't compute. |
16:08 |
* PenguinDad |
pours some deuterium oxide on reactor |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
reactor: anyway, you had those weird creatures on there, right? |
16:08 |
reactor |
Well, I suspended it until further clarification of the new law. |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
mhm, right |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
that law |
16:08 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: Pripyat |
16:09 |
reactor |
I heard they made exceptions, but I haven't ever found the source. |
16:09 |
Calinou |
? |
16:09 |
VanessaE |
new law? |
16:09 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: *ukrainian |
16:10 |
sfan5 |
Russia's politc is kinda weird |
16:10 |
sfan5 |
politcs* |
16:10 |
reactor |
VanessaE: yes, they passed a law that mandates everyone to report that they are going to host anything public. |
16:10 |
reactor |
sfan5: it is. |
16:10 |
reactor |
Well, I partially agree with what they meant. |
16:11 |
sfan5 |
reactor: how is "public" defined? |
16:11 |
reactor |
But why not limit that to _sites_? |
16:11 |
reactor |
Anything except for personal or family needs. |
16:11 |
sfan5 |
1) add a donation address |
16:12 |
sfan5 |
2) you might need donations for you |
16:12 |
sfan5 |
3) ??? |
16:12 |
reactor |
Been reading the law, oh my god -- it's hard to read, all those tangles formulations. |
16:12 |
sfan5 |
4) success |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
wouldn't a minetest server be considered "personal"? |
16:12 |
reactor |
Donation address? |
16:12 |
sfan5 |
like bitcoin or paypal |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
reactor: donations in PND :) |
16:12 |
sfan5 |
(just a joke anyway) |
16:12 |
reactor |
VanessaE: the users are not my family, are they? |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
reactor: you said "personal or family". |
16:12 |
reactor |
Don't worry, I'll either bring it back up or publish the map soon. |
16:13 |
reactor |
Yes. |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
if not family, then "personal" applies |
16:13 |
sfan5 |
to get back to the topic: |
16:13 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5>30 reactor: anyway, you had those weird creatures on there, right? |
16:13 |
reactor |
Personal usually means used by self. |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
your server is personal, not commercial. |
16:13 |
reactor |
sfan5: which ones? |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
well I dunno |
16:13 |
sfan5 |
reactor: the things that hunt you and hurt you |
16:13 |
sfan5 |
and that looked scary |
16:14 |
reactor |
Not commercial, but not personal, as not only I used it. |
16:14 |
VanessaE |
when I last visited that map, it still didn't have the actual reactor complex :P |
16:14 |
reactor |
sfan5: ah, we had nurses, bunny freaks and floating masks. |
16:14 |
sfan5 |
yes |
16:14 |
sfan5 |
I just wanted to say they were nicely made |
16:14 |
sfan5 |
something unique |
16:14 |
reactor |
VanessaE: there isn't any planned |
16:15 |
reactor |
I'm too short of time to even complete the city... |
16:15 |
reactor |
sfan5: thank you! |
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17:11 |
reactor |
sfan5, VanessaE: is there any chance you would like to host the game? |
17:12 |
sfan5 |
me? where? |
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17:15 |
Krock |
hai everypony |
17:16 |
PenguinDad |
Shark Krock |
17:16 |
Krock |
Uhu PenguinDad |
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VanessaE |
reactor: I'll pass. |
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17:32 |
justherefornofap |
Anyone know of a site like "Can I run It" for Linux? |
17:33 |
sfan5 |
what does "Can I run it" do? |
17:33 |
justherefornofap |
Tells you if your PC is good enough for a game |
17:33 |
sfan5 |
it's probably the same for linux and windows |
17:35 |
justherefornofap |
Doesn't detect the java :/ And I think the CanIRunIt is windows only |
17:35 |
justherefornofap |
sfan5, work for you? http://en.checkreq.com/scan.php?receiver=2 |
17:36 |
sfan5 |
java is insecure |
17:36 |
Calinou |
change your name to something appropriate, please |
17:36 |
justherefornofap |
shit |
17:36 |
justherefornofap |
ahaha |
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sfan5 |
? |
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17:55 |
ouioui |
sfan5, how can I get a site like that to run? |
17:55 |
Calinou |
well, don't try |
17:55 |
Calinou |
ouioui, tell us your system requirements and we'll see? |
17:55 |
sfan5 |
why are you asking me? |
17:56 |
PenguinDad |
Maybe "Can I crouch it" works better :P |
17:56 |
ouioui |
? |
17:57 |
ouioui |
Why can't I use a site like that Calinou? |
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17:58 |
Calinou |
I'm not saying I can't; I'm saying you shouldn't |
17:58 |
Calinou |
also, what does this have to do with Minetest? :/ |
18:01 |
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18:02 |
ouioui |
sorry |
18:02 |
ouioui |
IK I can run Minetest just wondering about a game like CSGO |
18:02 |
ouioui |
Probably not |
18:03 |
sfan5 |
CS:GO doesn't work on linux |
18:04 |
ouioui |
Just an random game I thought of |
18:04 |
Calinou |
there are free replacements for it ;) |
18:05 |
ouioui |
Really? |
18:05 |
PenguinDad |
ouioui: maybe you can run Unvanquished or Red Eclipse? |
18:06 |
PenguinDad |
No CS:GO replacements but still awesome games |
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18:12 |
ouioui |
Sorry did you say anything about CS:GO replacements? |
18:14 |
Calinou |
these things aren't even semi-realistic |
18:14 |
Calinou |
eg. http://etlegacy.com/ is semi-realistic |
18:16 |
ouioui |
Never understood watching Gaming Streams but found myself on Twitch watching CS:GO- sure it'd be so hard to get into but reminded me of playing CoD4 ages ago |
18:18 |
Calinou |
I never watched a gaming stream |
18:18 |
Calinou |
not enough bandwidth :p |
18:19 |
* Krock |
gives Calinou http://i.imgur.com/hD3Mugj.png |
18:19 |
ouioui |
You can only use a certain amount or too slow |
18:19 |
PenguinDad |
I can't even watch youtube videos without stuttering |
18:19 |
ouioui |
D: |
18:20 |
ouioui |
I would be so much more productive though aha |
18:20 |
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18:22 |
Calinou |
well, I watch one video a month or so |
18:22 |
Calinou |
reminds me of 0.3.x mapgen, Krock |
18:22 |
ouioui |
Calinou, so it's a limitied MB? |
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18:24 |
Krock |
Calinou, Wasn't that one using a 3d noise for the terrain? |
18:24 |
Wings |
What happened to Onez' Minetest Server? |
18:24 |
Krock |
IT DIED |
18:24 |
Wings |
..... |
18:24 |
Krock |
crashes/downtimes happen |
18:24 |
Wings |
When will it be off Maitnance |
18:24 |
Calinou |
ouioui, no, slow connection |
18:25 |
Krock |
idk, connect to irc.inchra.net #minetest |
18:25 |
ouioui |
Calinou, how slow? :P |
18:25 |
PenguinDad |
It turned into Zeroz Minetest Server :P |
18:25 |
Wings |
How do i friggen connect |
18:25 |
Wings |
what button??? |
18:25 |
Wings |
Btw its MTZ |
18:25 |
Krock |
* MTZ-Basic |
18:26 |
Wings |
Yea |
18:26 |
* Wings |
freaks out |
18:26 |
Wings |
:( |
18:26 |
Krock |
lol |
18:26 |
Wings |
Wtf i wanna play now! |
18:27 |
LemonLake |
http://i.imgur.com/4JFfaXN.gif |
18:27 |
Krock |
boo hoo go to my server, that one is better :P |
18:27 |
LemonLake |
cat gif detected |
18:27 |
Wings |
Krock: Ever played mtz tho |
18:27 |
Krock |
I did once, when it was vanilla + areas mod... |
18:27 |
Wings |
Krock: Lemme be a mod then |
18:27 |
Wings |
i wanna be a mod on your serv |
18:27 |
ouioui |
xD |
18:27 |
Krock |
guys like you have -1% chance |
18:27 |
sfan5 |
Wings: do you have wings? |
18:27 |
Wings |
-_- |
18:28 |
Wings |
yea |
18:28 |
Krock |
Need mor red bull? |
18:28 |
ouioui |
Wings, WoR? |
18:28 |
sfan5 |
well thats nice |
18:28 |
sfan5 |
I am a cat |
18:28 |
* Krock |
meows at sfan5 |
18:28 |
Wings |
Wing- Angel |
18:28 |
ouioui |
Wings of Redemption? |
18:28 |
Calinou |
ouioui, 3 Mb/s down, 0.25 Mb/s up |
18:28 |
Wings |
Im angel of MTZ :P |
18:29 |
Calinou |
I could have 100 times more if an ISP bothered deploying optic fiber for real |
18:29 |
* Wings |
begs krock |
18:29 |
* Krock |
Sgniw sgeb |
18:29 |
Wings |
I wish to be a Moderator on your server Krock |
18:29 |
* Wings |
tugs Krock's foot |
18:30 |
PenguinDad |
My upload speed is faster than Calinou's \o/ |
18:30 |
* Krock |
's too \o/// |
18:30 |
* Calinou |
uploads Rainbow Dash to PenguinDad |
18:30 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
anyone running kaeza's IRC mod on ubuntu 14.04? having trouble figuring out what to install to satisfy LuaSocket dependency. tried lua-socket and even lua-socket-dev |
18:30 |
* Wings |
wants to be a Mod someday |
18:30 |
ouioui |
Calinou, I feel bad- mine's 46down, 7up |
18:31 |
PenguinDad |
7up :D |
18:31 |
Wings |
PLEASE KROCK |
18:31 |
Wings |
PLEASE |
18:31 |
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18:31 |
Krock |
- Wings left |
18:31 |
Krock |
- Wings wird nun ignoriert |
18:31 |
Krock |
damn! |
18:32 |
* Jordach |
slowly watches the entirety of /r/gaming, /r/pcmasterrace and /r/totalbiscuit go to shit over ZK |
18:32 |
Calinou |
ZK? |
18:32 |
ouioui |
ZK? |
18:32 |
Calinou |
all these subreddits are already to shit |
18:32 |
Jordach |
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1 |
18:32 |
ouioui |
PenguinDad, what were the things like CS? |
18:32 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
derp, never mind! |
18:33 |
Calinou |
ouioui, Unvanquished, Red Eclipse, but I barely see a connection |
18:33 |
Calinou |
Enemy Territory: Legacy is likely closer |
18:33 |
PenguinDad |
ouioui: the things I told you aren't like CS:GO in any way |
18:33 |
ouioui |
Just want a kinda simple FPS that reminds me of CoD4 |
18:33 |
ouioui |
Maybe I should just fix my Xbox |
18:33 |
Jordach |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M |
18:33 |
* Jordach |
has more on said subject |
18:33 |
Jordach |
Calinou, ouioui ^ |
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ouioui |
Maybe I don't wanna play CSGO anyway, seems like all the good guns and things cost a lot of real money? |
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Jordach |
ouioui, the non skinned weapons are free |
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Jordach |
(unlock them at the start of the round afaik) |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
d'oh, no still not winning |
18:38 |
Jordach |
-with ingame cash generated by killing others |
18:38 |
Calinou |
<ouioui> Just want a kinda simple FPS that reminds me of CoD4 |
18:38 |
Calinou |
probably doesn't exist |
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Calinou |
if you're into silly realism, AssaultCube: http://assault.cubers.net/ |
18:38 |
Calinou |
in this game, you move faster by moving diagonally 8) |
18:38 |
Calinou |
(if only this worked in real life) |
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ouioui |
CS seems like that, apparently works well in Wine |
18:39 |
Calinou |
still paid and proprietary :o |
18:40 |
ouioui |
That wasn;t one of my requests! xD |
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* Jordach |
grabs the popcorn http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2dz0bm/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/ |
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PenguinDad |
bunny hopp |
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PenguinDad |
s/bunny hopp// |
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ouioui |
quoi? |
18:42 |
ElectronLibre |
Hum, another french? ^^ |
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ouioui |
Might try and work out how to fix my Xbox, Minetest doesn't even run well on this shit |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
wow i must be retarded |
18:43 |
ouioui |
Probably |
18:44 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
anyone got any tips for getting LuaSocket installed on Ubuntu 14.04. The "Installation" page http://w3.impa.br/~diego/software/luasocket/installation.html tells me many things except how to install it |
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ouioui |
You can get CS:GO on Xbox?! |
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Jordach |
ThatGraemeGuy, sudo apt-get install luasocket |
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Jordach |
that's it on 14.04 |
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Jordach |
(works on Xubuntu 14.04 in a VM) |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
E: Unable to locate package luasocket |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
mmmm |
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Jordach |
luasocket5-1 |
19:26 |
* Jordach |
runs dpkg --get-selections |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
there's no luasock<anything> |
19:27 |
Jordach |
ThatGraemeGuy, lua-socket |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
already tried that and even lua-socket-dev |
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Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PaLUK4Bp1t8v.png |
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Jordach |
ThatGraemeGuy, ran the command + > text.txt = http://paste.debian.net/116443/ |
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Jordach |
clearly you may be missing packages from other sources |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
must be |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
http://pastebin.com/8Z4wHyf3 |
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Jordach |
i have enabled universe packages and some other stuff |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
yeah, i have everything enabled |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
completely stumped |
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PilzAdam |
ThatGraemeGuy, is your luasocket version for Lua 5.1 or 5.2? |
19:36 |
Jordach |
ThatGraemeGuy, liblua5.1-socket2 |
19:36 |
Jordach |
^ possibility (appears in Debian repos) |
19:36 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
http://pastebin.com/8fzHfgQG, seems to suggest both |
19:37 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
http://pastebin.com/uA5wv9uw, all the packages mentioning 'lua' and 'sock' |
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Jordach |
liblua-5.1 might install it |
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Jordach |
liblua5.1 * |
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* ThatGraemeGuy |
tries |
19:38 |
Jordach |
that installs all sorts of Lua 5.1 libs for use |
19:38 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
i see |
19:38 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
nothing to lose :) |
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Jordach |
otherwise i don't fucking know, just worked on my VM |
19:39 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
nope :-/ |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
I give up |
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Jordach |
http://paste.debian.net/116446/ |
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Jordach |
hm |
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Jordach |
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/liblua5.1-socket2 |
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Jordach |
http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/luasocket |
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Jordach |
best i can find |
19:42 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
that's lucid, neither exist anymore on trusty :-/ See http://pastebin.com/uA5wv9uw |
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Jordach |
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/lua-socket |
19:44 |
Jordach |
hang on |
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Jordach |
(may have somehow enabled debians repos) |
19:45 |
Jordach |
actually that sounds very plausible |
19:47 |
Jordach |
ThatGraemeGuy, you can get it from Debian but not Ubuntu for some reason |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
mmm weird |
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crazyR1 |
Jordach on ubuntu use luarocks |
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crazyR1 |
works well for me |
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Calinou |
old versions of IRC mod made you manually build luasocket.so, ThatGraemeGuy |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
I cloned this one: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc |
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Calinou |
post an issue |
20:07 |
Calinou |
issues can be used for support, sometimes 8) |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Mod profiling support 0c94f2f 2014-08-19T22:15:23+02:00 http://git.io/azlBKQ |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Mod profiling support c24e075 2014-08-19T22:22:57+02:00 http://git.io/OsWFag |
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LemonLake |
excuse me |
20:24 |
sapier |
sorry had to fix a typo :-) |
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LemonLake |
what typo? |
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LemonLake |
i did it mom |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix caption of config mods button (simple menu) a4c987b 2014-08-19T22:34:25+02:00 http://git.io/A4QEUA |
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* PenguinDad |
meows at LemonLake |
20:42 |
LemonLake |
yeah |
20:42 |
LemonLake |
meow at me and quit |
20:42 |
LemonLake |
fuckin coward |
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virtualfall |
Guys watch: https://gsa15.enterprisedemo-google.com |
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Eater4 |
ThatGraemeGuy: that mod is screwed up, what system are your running it on |
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Eater4 |
*the irc mod |
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Eater4 |
Hey JamesTait |
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* JamesTait |
is not really here. ;) |
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virtualfall |
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lisacvuk |
hi |
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Warr1024 |
How do I find out what the bounding box for an ObjectRef is in the lua API? |
23:40 |
Warr1024 |
It looks like you can set_properties but not get_properties. |
23:41 |
Warr1024 |
and get_entity_name is apparently deprecated. |