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00:03 shadowzone Hi.
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00:09 gustav Hello, which file I should modify to place blocks farther? sorry if my question is newbie
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00:26 Partmedia gustav, most likely minetest.conf :)
00:27 Partmedia there's a page on the wiki about it, along with an example config file that explains what each setting does
00:38 gustav thank you !  =))  many lines are commented in minetest.conf
00:40 gustav oh! oh!  I check the wiki now . Thank you very much
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00:41 MinetestBot ecutruin: 07-24 01:16 UTC <Jordach> https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.mp4
00:42 Jordach and yes we did do a skyblock esque thing :)
00:43 ecutruin Neat.
00:43 ecutruin I'ma be mostly AFK here.
00:43 ecutruin Going out to eat.
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01:30 Endymion Hi, silly question; is there a reason why the MMDB is down?  I loaded up 0.4.10 today, and I was looking to see if the mod db was updated at all... and... bad gateway.
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01:38 shadowzone Hi Zeno`.
01:39 Zeno` Hello
01:39 shadowzone How ya doin'?
01:39 Zeno` ok I guess :)
01:40 Zeno` struggling with a Lua issue
01:42 Zeno` is there any way to check that a parameter is a table? i.e. similar to luaL_checkinteger() ?
01:42 Zeno` s/parameter/argument
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01:48 shadowzone Why you asking me?
01:53 Zeno` I'm asking in general :)
01:55 shadowzone Oh.
01:55 shadowzone Well I don't know.
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02:31 shadowzone NIGHT
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02:43 eugd what kind of data can sqlite (or the other available backends) hold?
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02:43 eugd what kind of data can sqlite (or the other available backends) hold?
02:43 eugd anyone know?
02:44 eugd i remember reading sqlite was very simple
02:44 eugd ordered pairs of text fields?
02:44 Zeno` everything is text iirc
02:45 Zeno` I don't think they're ordered pairs though (not sqlite)
02:46 Zeno` so sqlite can hold anything you like. BLOBS, again IIRC, have to be converted to something like base64, or uencoded
02:47 eugd i'm thinking about loading multiple maps simultaneously
02:47 eugd for VAE or voxel subdivision
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03:26 Exio using a system only 2gb of ram is a pain...
03:27 Exio i got used to >8 gb of ram
03:28 Zeno` I've only got 2GB of RAM on my server
03:29 Exio i mean desktop
03:29 Exio i don't know why but i need to kill my browser and my running apps every 45-60 minutes
03:29 Exio i mean, is my workflow really that "resource-intensive"?
03:30 Exio fwiw, this is windows7 pro
03:30 Zeno` not sure... currently my desktop is using 3.3GB RAM (linux)
03:30 Zeno` oh yeah, well...
03:30 Exio linux is another thing
03:30 Zeno` I'm pretty sure windows7 would fill up 2GB pretty quickly
03:30 Exio you can live with 128 mb of ram there without problems
03:31 Exio i used my netbook, actually 1/2 of this computer
03:32 Exio 1gb of ram, half the cores, a WAY slower GPU
03:32 Exio and i was able to use the system like nothing happened
03:32 Exio i even had a normal ram usage of under 200 mb of ram
03:32 Exio and i underclocked and undervolted the cpu for saving batery
03:33 Exio battery
03:33 Exio and it worked better than this windows7
03:33 Exio a single core with HT (Intel Atom N270, underclocked+undervolted at 800MHz always, the only moment the cpu went at higher frequencies was compiling)
03:34 Exio and this is a a dual core with HT at 1.6GHz, under windows 7 pro, and two times more ram
03:34 Exio was the gentoo in that n270 really that nice?
03:36 Exio i don't know how people can use this system without, at least, 8GB
03:37 Exio and this is 32bit.. the hardware supports 64bit nicely
03:53 fling Exio: use gentoo
03:53 Exio i can't
03:53 Exio the linux support of this gpu is shit
03:54 Exio (not so bad compared to windows' support though)
03:54 Exio and also this hardware is locked atm
04:00 fling use linux-libre
04:02 Exio fling, intel gma 3600
04:02 Exio google that shit
04:03 fling is minetest working on arm?
04:06 fling looks like it is
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05:10 * RealBadAngel yawns
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05:27 Zeno` RealBadAngel: something I'm kind of uncertain about... https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/voxel.cpp#L224
05:27 Zeno` why is the memcpy() and associated memset() inside two outer loops instead of just copying the whole lot?
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05:59 Zeno` I've written a C extension for use within lua, however I get the error 15:54:34: ERROR[main]:  no file './mytest.so' even though mytest.so in in the mod directory
05:59 Zeno` any ideas?
06:01 Zeno` where is . from the perspective of minetest or minetestserver when it's loading a module?
06:06 Zeno` ok, that's fixed.... now another error "undefined symbol: lua_tointegerx"      grrr
06:06 fling sfan5: looks like it is loading mods from /usr/ if the game is also loaded from there :D
06:06 fling no need for a symlink
06:06 Zeno` I have no idea how that can happen when I compiled MT with the same version as my test and my test.lua works
06:07 Zeno` ahh yuk
06:07 Zeno` luaJIT
06:07 Zeno` I must be using 5.2 function somewhere
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06:37 fling I'm having issued with item_drop
06:37 fling it is picking up items right after I drop :<
06:37 fling is it possible to only pickup when ctrl pressed or something?
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06:50 RealBadAngel fling, please use https://github.com/minetest-technic/item_tweaks
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06:51 RealBadAngel item_drop is kinda outdated
06:54 Zeno` RealBadAngel, are you in a good mood or a bad mood, and do you know much about extending Lua with C?
06:56 fling RealBadAngel: thanks
06:56 fling RealBadAngel: what is the license of this? homepage? description? :P
06:56 fling RealBadAngel: I'm packaging things
06:59 RealBadAngel wtfpl as usual
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07:01 RealBadAngel what do you mean by "extending lua" ?
07:01 Calinou reform Lua
07:01 * Calinou shrugs
07:02 Zeno` RealBadAngel, sorry I don't know the nomenclature
07:02 Zeno` I mean I've written a C function that is meant to be called from Lua
07:03 Zeno` Problem is that it works with 'lua test.lua' but not with 'luajit test.lua'
07:07 Zeno` it's some kind of linking problem (I think) but I have no idea even where to start solving it
07:07 markv Zeno`,  I had some issued with LuaJIT too
07:07 markv Same linking ones
07:08 markv Fixes by copying some files
07:08 markv What's the error message?
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07:08 Zeno` markv, can we PM please?
07:08 markv Sure
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07:14 fling RealBadAngel: it works fine with item_drop, thanks :>
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07:46 sfan5 meow
07:46 sfan5 hi everyone
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08:18 RealBadAngel hi sfan5
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08:19 sfan5 hi RealBadAngel
08:20 RealBadAngel today its gonna be a big day
08:21 RealBadAngel i wanna push water surface shaders today
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08:43 fling which mod is the best for mobs?
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08:55 fling Where is stairsplus? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2092
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08:56 Krock hi
08:56 Calinou stairsplus is into More Blocks
08:56 Calinou it's not longer a separate mod, since 2013
08:56 Calinou if a mod asks you to install Stairs+, install More Blocks :P
08:56 fling Calinou: ok, thanks.
09:03 fling Calinou: stairs textures are not visible in the invertory :<
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09:04 yaman hello everyone
09:04 Calinou fling, probably graphics driver issue, to me it looks fine.
09:05 fling OK
09:05 yaman how could i make a food item that when eaten does not run out?
09:06 Calinou yaman, add on_use that gives an item when eating, if health is not full ;)
09:06 Krock poke and eat again
09:06 Calinou but sounds like something overpowered
09:06 Krock *puke
09:07 yaman Krock i think ill try yours XD
09:07 yaman Caliou it is in a minigame i am trying to create
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10:03 markv Channel #mkt modes: +knrst illuminati
10:03 markv oops
10:03 markv *changes key
10:03 sfan5 markv: we don't care
10:03 sfan5 go somewhere else
10:04 fling Why is minetest redownloading textures?
10:04 markv /ignore sfan5
10:04 sfan5 fling: which textures exactly?
10:05 fling sfan5: from mods?
10:05 markv sfan5, Notice me if you grow up
10:05 fling a client downloading a lot on each reconnect
10:05 sfan5 from remote_media?
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10:09 Zeno` I sometimes feel that we're all trying to do different fucking things instead of concentrating on making MT better :(
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10:10 Zeno` anyway, maybe it's imaginary
10:11 * Krock still wants texture cache in a sqlite file
10:11 sfan5 >cache
10:11 sfan5 >sqlite3
10:11 sfan5 y?
10:11 Krock because most cache does not change
10:12 sfan5 the map does change often, why are we using sqlite3 for it then?
10:12 Krock so, why not use sqlite for cache, too? :3
10:13 Krock or for the players - like FM did IIRC
10:13 Zeno` sqlite client side or server side? (for cache)
10:13 Krock client
10:13 Zeno` with a hash it might be beneficial
10:13 Krock sure, it could send a sqlite file to download
10:14 Zeno` something worth considering anyway
10:15 Zeno` are textures not currently cached?
10:15 Calinou new farming soil and wet soil textures
10:15 PenguinDad Zeno`: I have a cache folder filled with textures
10:16 Zeno` they seem to be. Andecodotally, if I join a new server it takes ages to download stuff and them subsequent joins are pretty quick
10:16 Zeno` yeah PenguinDad
10:16 Zeno` so what's the issue or potential improvement, Krock?
10:17 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GUly0xd5ubwY.jpg
10:17 Krock maybe it could load the data faster, looking at my 14k files in the cache folder
10:17 Calinou you can use acid to make soil wet :D
10:17 PenguinDad <Krock> or for the players - like FM did IIRC
10:17 PenguinDad FM would never use sqlite
10:18 Krock Calinou, acid is not the best for plants, you know.
10:18 Calinou boats work on acid too
10:18 Calinou it puts out fire
10:20 PenguinDad I still wonder which acid it is
10:20 Krock acid puts out everything in the correct mass
10:22 Krock Calinou, what's the license of those textures?
10:22 * PenguinDad gives Krock a bottle of carbonic acid
10:22 * Krock pours it over himself
10:23 Calinou same as default, CC BY-SA 3.0 probably
10:23 Krock ok
10:23 Calinou made with GIMP grid + contrast edit
10:23 Calinou edit of the Carbone dirt texture
10:23 fling RealBadAngel: is unified_inventory under GPL-3+ or LGPL-2+/WTFPL?
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10:23 fling RealBadAngel: forum post and github page saying different license
10:25 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/a58eff570839 → Carbone Textures screenshots renewed
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10:26 MinetestBot kaeza: 07-19 15:28 UTC <VanessaE> https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-computer/pull/6
10:26 Calinou someone should port these textures to Minecraft, lol
10:27 PenguinDad stone monsters as skeletons :D
10:28 RealBadAngel fling, i will have to sort it out, but in general all my code should be wtfpl
10:30 fling RealBadAngel: why not to use GPL-3+?
10:30 kaeza greetings
10:30 MinetestBot kaeza: 07-23 17:28 UTC <Krock> Could you add support in your IRC mod for the [channels] mod?
10:30 Zeno` why not use BSD?
10:30 kaeza ...
10:31 RealBadAngel because i do that for the community
10:31 Zeno` lgpl isn't actually appropriate
10:31 Zeno` mainly because it's not a library as defined by the LGPL
10:32 RealBadAngel i was forced to pick something
10:32 fling RealBadAngel: read this -> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html
10:32 RealBadAngel i pay no shit about licences
10:32 fling then just use what is best for users?
10:32 fling gplv3 is free as freedom
10:33 RealBadAngel wtf is better
10:33 Zeno` fling, it's not really... BSD is better
10:33 kaeza unlicense/wtfpl/bsd are free-er
10:33 fling ok :P
10:33 PenguinDad CC 0 is free-er too
10:33 RealBadAngel just do what the fuck you want :P
10:34 RealBadAngel what could be better than that?
10:34 fling We update the GPL to protect its copyleft from being undermined by legal or technological developments. The most recent version protects users from three recent threats: http://dpaste.com/3KDY22K#wrap
10:34 Calinou you can now find super apples in jungle trees in Carbone
10:34 fling RealBadAngel: atleast look at this ^
10:35 fling Calinou: why are they all using wtfpl?
10:35 Zeno` the problem I, personally, have with WTFPL is that it's not exactly professional
10:35 Calinou because they had no idea what to use, and rather use a silly license with bad words and no warranty disclaimer.
10:35 Calinou use CC0.
10:35 Calinou or zlib.
10:35 RealBadAngel because wtfpll is real free
10:35 Calinou both are permissive/lax
10:35 sfan5 <RealBadAngel> i wanna push water surface shaders today
10:36 RealBadAngel sfan5, yes
10:36 sfan5 RealBadAngel: do you have the source somewhere, for testing?
10:36 RealBadAngel i will make it public later today
10:36 Zeno` I'll quite easily apply BSD to my code... but WTFPL? Nah I couldn't actually do that
10:36 Zeno` Just because it sounds childish
10:36 Zeno` I'd release to Public Domain before WTFPL
10:37 markv You can waive all permissions legally
10:37 RealBadAngel Zeno`, feel once like a creator of something
10:37 Calinou Public domain is not a license
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10:37 RealBadAngel and give it away
10:37 Calinou markv, use CC0
10:37 sfan5 <Calinou> Public domain is not a license
10:37 PenguinDad Zeno`: WTFPL has no meaning in germany
10:37 sfan5 ^
10:37 RealBadAngel thats a feeling
10:37 Calinou use CC0 instead of “public domain”
10:37 markv To the extent possible under law, name has waived all copyright and related or neighboring rights to object
10:37 Calinou I can't see what's so complicated with it, apart the fact you can't change your mind
10:37 markv Don't need a license
10:37 Calinou markv, yes, you do need one to do that
10:38 markv okay den
10:38 RealBadAngel any other license is about saying: its mine and dont touch it
10:38 Zeno` Calinou, it's not a licence it's saying "I do not assert any copyright that may be legally available to me"
10:38 RealBadAngel and makin big mark i did that
10:38 Zeno` It's basically WTFPL without sounding... hmm
10:38 RealBadAngel fuck this
10:39 Zeno` PenguinDad, does Germany respect Public Domain?
10:39 RealBadAngel i code for me and share
10:39 Calinou GPL is about sharing and reuse of software, actually
10:39 RealBadAngel but with restrictions
10:40 Zeno` I've always released my code as GPL. Well, up until about a year ago anyway.
10:40 Calinou useful ones
10:40 Zeno` Now I make a choice between BSD and GPL
10:40 Calinou sad to see people selling their minds to permissive licenses for no reason
10:40 Calinou it's a one way path usually
10:40 fling RealBadAngel: I have installed unified_inventory but it is not working.
10:40 fling Unified Inventory. inventory size: 472
10:41 fling RealBadAngel: I don't see it's interface
10:41 Zeno` For example, I reverse engineered a hardware protocol and released that code as GPL. Why? Because if the manufacturer wants to use that code I want the updates :) But for other stuff, I dunno, BSD seems better
10:41 RealBadAngel fling, delete creative mod
10:41 RealBadAngel from minetest_game
10:42 fling RealBadAngel: is it possible to just disable it?
10:42 RealBadAngel should be, but to some point only
10:42 RealBadAngel best solution is to delete it
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10:42 kaeza Krock, it would be hard to implement that correctly when multiple servers are chatting with each other
10:43 Zeno` I love the idea of GPL though, don't get me wrong. And I support it.
10:43 RealBadAngel creative mod is pilz adam affected
10:43 RealBadAngel and i hate it ;)
10:43 Zeno` Depends on what the project is
10:43 Zeno` It's not black and white for me :(
10:44 Krock kaeza, I thought of something like: Hide IRC messages when the player is in a channel - the other way - over servers is, yes, not easy to add
10:44 PenguinDad minetest mods rarely contain reverse engineered code
10:44 Zeno` PenguinDad, of course not! :) I was using that as an example of where I would choose GPL
10:44 Jordach PenguinDad, i ABM'd MC's grass growing
10:44 Jordach (basically(
10:45 Zeno` and I didn't reverse engineer code, I reverse engineered the protocol
10:45 Zeno` reverse engineered is probably the wrong word as well... decipher is probably better
10:46 Zeno` anyway, I like WTFPL except for the "fuck"
10:47 kaeza Krock, there's a /irc_part command in IRC mod. are there any problems with using `/irc_part`, followed by `/channel set asdf` (or whatever the command is)?
10:47 * sfan5_ meows at kaeza
10:48 Krock kaeza, well then. I haven't used the IRC mod that much. seems like there's no additional support needed
10:48 * kaeza purrs at sfan5
10:48 sfan5 kaeza: your irc mod is very nice
10:48 sfan5 I plan on adding it to my meowtest server
10:48 sfan5 !server meowtest
10:49 sfan5 hm
10:49 sfan5 looks like MinetestBot didn't get the new dns yet
10:49 PenguinDad I are c!
10:50 MinetestBot urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 101] Network is unreachable> (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 1235, in do_open)
10:50 markv Zeno`, WPL
10:50 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("dig +short servers.minetst.net A").read()
10:50 MinetestBot ''
10:50 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("dig +short servers.minetest.net A").read()
10:50 MinetestBot '144.76.208.120\n'
10:50 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("dig +short @ns1.afraid.org servers.minetest.net A").read()
10:50 MinetestBot '212.38.181.18\n'
10:50 fling RealBadAngel: removed creative, nothing changed
10:51 Zeno` markv, I like that :)
10:52 PenguinDad *WTPL :P
10:52 fling RealBadAngel: the files I have -> http://bpaste.net/show/494061/
10:52 sfan5 more like DWYWPL
10:52 Zeno` YCDWYWIDC licence
10:53 Zeno` IDC == I don't care
10:53 PenguinDad DIYP licence
10:53 fling you should care if you want to protect freedom
10:54 Zeno` You Can Do Want You Want, I Don't Care surely protects freedom
10:55 markv not WTPL
10:55 markv What The People Like
10:55 Zeno` WYW
10:56 Zeno` Whatever You Want
10:56 markv Let's make a new license
10:56 Zeno` Stated again... the only thing I don't like about the WTFPL is the "fuck"
10:57 Zeno` to me swear words have...  they dilute expression IMO
10:58 Zeno` there is no need for a swear word to make a powerful statement (and yeah, I realise the Fuck is probably tongue-in-cheek)
10:59 markv If it weren't for ZNC people would be filled with quit messages
11:03 PenguinDad I still love these milk tanks
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11:05 fling RealBadAngel: do I need some mod for unified_inventory to work?
11:05 reactor Afternoon!
11:05 PenguinDad Noon!
11:05 reactor Is this me, or something's been happening to servers.minetest.net lately?
11:05 fling because I'm trying it with minetest_game without creative mod and with all other mods disabled
11:05 fling stil not wo rking
11:06 sfan5 reactor: the IP changed
11:06 reactor Again?
11:06 sfan5 server was moved from DE -> UK
11:06 reactor How long ago?
11:06 sfan5 again? the last change was about 5 weeks ago
11:06 reactor Well then I have already tracked the change.
11:06 sfan5 half an hour
11:06 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("dig +short @ns1.afraid.org servers.minetest.net A").read()
11:06 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
11:06 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("dig +short @ns1.afraid.org servers.minetest.net A").read()
11:06 MinetestBot '212.38.181.18\n'
11:06 reactor But this keeps on happening: "servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 0)"
11:06 sfan5 ^ right IP
11:07 fling sfan5: Hello. Are you using unified_inventory?
11:07 sfan5 the your minetest server did not get the change for some reason
11:07 sfan5 ma
11:07 sfan5 fling: no
11:07 fling It is not working for me for some reason :<
11:07 reactor yeah
11:08 reactor Well, it works most of the time.
11:08 PenguinDad sfan5: wrong ip :P http://212.38.181.18/skyblock-video.mp4
11:08 reactor But for some hours in a row every day, it does that.
11:08 sfan5 PenguinDad: it responds as servers.minetest.net if you send a "Host: servers.minetest.net" header
11:08 sfan5 vhosts
11:09 PenguinDad TIL vhosts
11:11 reactor --- servers.minetest.net ping statistics ---
11:11 reactor 273 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
11:12 reactor Strange, I can access it via TOR.
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11:13 sfan5 reactor: works just perfectly for me
11:13 reactor Yeah exactly.
11:13 reactor I can access it from anywhere byt my address.
11:13 reactor but
11:14 sfan5 try $ ping neko.fuslvz.ws
11:14 sfan5 thats the gateway to my server
11:15 reactor this one works
11:17 reactor and for 3 days or so some little moron (just like many tablet players) has been coming and threatening us  with police if they don't make him a staffer
11:17 VanessaE hi
11:18 reactor щ/
11:19 Zeno` police? roflol
11:19 reactor yeah, what a load of bullshit seriously
11:19 Zeno` kids
11:19 reactor that is just a game, get over it!
11:19 VanessaE let him threaten.
11:20 markv reactor, If someone threatened me like that I would ban his ass
11:20 VanessaE police won't do shit without some kind of reason
11:20 Zeno` lol, I can't stop laughing
11:20 reactor exactly, I don't remember people being so stupid back when I was a kid
11:20 markv Also add to hosts_deny so the kiddie can't do anything
11:20 Zeno` that's the funniest thing I've heard in months
11:20 Zeno` I'm even going to add it to my diary
11:20 reactor Go ahead :D
11:21 reactor Oh I'm just wondering what load of crap he dumps next time.
11:22 reactor Rage comments are entertaining.
11:22 sfan5 ^
11:22 sfan5 ^
11:22 sfan5 ^
11:22 Zeno` reactor, please stop talking. I don't like your comments and I am going to call the police.
11:22 reactor http://stop-irc-bullying.eu http://start-irc-bullying.eu ?
11:23 reactor Which one do I pick?
11:23 * Zeno` tries to stop the dripping sarcasm
11:23 sfan5 http://start-irc-bullying.eu/start
11:23 sfan5 ^ lol
11:23 Zeno` stay bully-free!
11:24 * Zeno` calls the police. "Hi, sfan said I was a bully"
11:24 reactor I feel like someone's messing with my DNS.
11:24 Zeno` lmao
11:25 VanessaE Zeno`: nonononono
11:25 VanessaE you have to use that argument against harrison
11:25 reactor Do you see the same "you have reached the default ssl website of k via port 443." at https://stop-irc-bullying.eu/ ?
11:25 Zeno` VanessaE, stop harassing me!
11:25 VanessaE HAH
11:25 * Zeno` calls the cops
11:25 reactor When just a second ago it used to be the actual page.
11:26 Zeno` Tips and best practices to promote bullying on IRC can be found on the promoting bullying page.
11:26 Zeno` ^^^ lol
11:26 VanessaE reactor: that site's dead for me too.
11:26 reactor Coming soonâ„¢
11:26 VanessaE "The site's security certificate is not trusted!"
11:26 reactor That's surely a good tip!
11:26 Zeno` probably self-signed like yours VE
11:26 VanessaE well so not "dead" but not exactly legit.
11:26 Zeno` I can't trust you anymore... you're a bully
11:27 VanessaE hah!
11:27 yaman sorry to interrupt on the bullying discussion ^^ but how would it be that randomly on respawn, an item is added to your inventory?
11:27 reactor Mods?
11:27 Zeno` it would be interesting I guess
11:27 yaman yes
11:27 reactor give_initial_stuff shouldn't be random
11:27 yaman it is part of a minigame i am making
11:29 yaman so is there a way?
11:30 sfan5 reactor: yes
11:30 sfan5 (answer to <reactor> Do you see the same "you [...})
11:31 reactor Oh.
11:32 reactor By the way, the IP of servers.minetest.net suddenly changed to the one of your gateway.
11:32 reactor Is that intended?
11:34 sfan5 uh. what?
11:35 reactor well an hour ago it was 144.76.208.120
11:35 reactor now it is 212.38.181.18
11:36 sfan5 thats the new IP
11:37 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("dig +short neko.fuslvz.ws A").read()
11:37 MinetestBot '212.38.181.2\n'
11:37 sfan5 ^ thats the gateway
11:37 sfan5 yaman: yes there is a way
11:38 yaman enlighten me
11:38 reactor And I accuse others of being unable to read [facepalm].
11:39 reactor And how long ago did it change?
11:39 sfan5 reactor: the new dns was set an hour ago
11:40 reactor Aha.
11:40 reactor Is that permenent, or the old address might return?
11:40 sfan5 permanent
11:42 sfan5 MinetestBot!
11:42 MinetestBot sfan5!
11:42 MinetestBot TypeError: POST data should be bytes or an iterable of bytes. It cannot be of type str. (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 1163, in do_request_)
11:43 sfan5 uh what
11:43 reactor But it's been oscillating between the two for about week?
11:43 MinetestBot TypeError: POST data should be bytes or an iterable of bytes. It cannot be of type str. (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 1163, in do_request_)
11:43 reactor about a week*
11:44 sfan5 reactor: I didn't know about the new IP until 2 hours ago
11:45 reactor What were the outages then?
11:45 MinetestBot TypeError: POST data should be bytes or an iterable of bytes. It cannot be of type str. (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 1163, in do_request_)
11:46 VanessaE wyf MinetestBot?
11:46 VanessaE wtf*
11:47 yaman is there a way to easily teleport all players to a single location?
11:47 MinetestBot TypeError: POST data should be bytes or an iterable of bytes. It cannot be of type str. (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 1163, in do_request_)
11:47 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
11:47 sfan5 !api yaman
11:47 sfan5 no?
11:48 sfan5 lol
11:48 sfan5 I tried to use a MinetestBot command right after I told it to go
11:48 sfan5 yaman: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
11:49 VanessaE you bwoke it!  poor MinetestBot
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11:53 * Krock rewrote much farming stuff
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11:54 yaman cannot read without eyes hurting :( bad spacing
11:54 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
11:54 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
11:54 Krock !c 1 + 1
11:54 MinetestBot 2
11:54 Krock :D
11:55 Zeno` I is calling the police!
11:55 Zeno` too many spaces
11:55 Krock !c "BRA" + 'I' * 9 + "NS"
11:55 MinetestBot 'BRAIIIIIIIIINS'
11:55 reactor Speaking of players.
11:55 reactor What does one do about nick spamming?
11:55 Krock plaers_per_ip
11:55 Krock +y
11:55 sfan5 yaman: you basically use register_on_respawnplayer, set the position of the player and return true
11:56 reactor As in, someone keeps joining under different names (not willing to remember their password eh?)
11:56 * Krock gives reactor https://github.com/SmallJoker/names_per_ip
11:56 yaman i got that part but to start the minigame all must be teleported to a single place
11:57 reactor Krock: oh, I see!
11:58 Krock Calinou forked it and edited some parts. I guess, it's in carbone now
11:58 reactor Well, xban seems to keep the record of IP to name associations, too. It would be nice to have both things in one mod...
12:04 Krock http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Texture_Packs
12:04 Krock is mislading
12:04 Krock "Windows 5 (XP) - 8"
12:04 Krock windows 8 is not windows 8
12:04 reactor It's 7.???
12:04 reactor And 7 is 6.???
12:05 Krock yeah
12:05 Krock " in Windows 7 is actually 6.1, "
12:05 Krock "Windows 8 Is Windows 6.2"
12:06 Krock and windows 5 is not xp, that's windows 2000 :3
12:06 Krock such a mess
12:07 Jordach tl;dr my pool is fucking cold as ice
12:07 Krock cool, eh?
12:07 reactor Jordach: use gasoline?
12:07 Jordach hosepipe ban my ass ;)
12:07 reactor It will only heat the air, though <_<
12:11 markv !c repr("1,5Hiell")
12:11 MinetestBot "'\\x031,5Hiell'"
12:11 markv kk
12:12 Krock I wonder if it can calculate the char  Â¨  now
12:14 Krock !c 'Æ’' * 4
12:14 MinetestBot 'Æ’Æ’Æ’Æ’'
12:14 markv !c '\\x031,5Hiell'
12:14 MinetestBot '\\x031,5Hiell'
12:14 markv :(
12:15 * markv plays some shooter
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12:25 miler Jest jakis polak?
12:25 sfan5 what?
12:26 miler i need save
12:26 sfan5 save what?
12:27 miler city minetest
12:27 Krock save yourself first
12:27 miler for linux
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12:27 sfan5 what do you need to save?
12:29 miler hm i need save games (city)
12:29 Krock 7z7z.exe a -t7z -mx9 "%1.7z" "%1"
12:30 Krock -7z
12:30 sfan5 miler: save for what?
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12:33 Krock ok ciao
12:35 PenguinDad !c "×_× " * 5
12:35 MinetestBot '×_× ×_× ×_× ×_× ×_× '
12:36 reactor ж_ж
12:38 PenguinDad ⁂ _⁂
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12:50 reactor o/
12:58 PenguinDad I think I should lower the tnt radius a bit https://cdn.mediacru.sh/KYWMpvdP6qaK.png
12:59 VanessaE ya think? O_o
12:59 shadowzone Wowie That would take a full year to carve that out by hand.
13:07 Jordach PenguinDad, quadruple it :D
13:10 * PenguinDad tries it out
13:11 PenguinDad Jordach: "ServerError: not enough memory"
13:13 Jordach add more swap
13:16 PenguinDad Jordach: I have 16GB :P
13:16 Krock PenguinDad, interesting shades
13:17 PenguinDad lighting updates ftw
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14:31 fling How to debug unified_inventory?
14:31 fling I don't see any error
14:32 fling but I don't see the inventory :P
14:32 fling minetest_game without creative and with a single mod (unified_inventory) installed
14:32 fling Unified Inventory. inventory size: 193
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14:38 liljnc3 CRAIG DAVI
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14:40 liljnc3 hi
14:46 liljnc3 hi i cant get any of the servers to work
14:53 * PenguinDad is bored
14:57 kaeza hello, bored!
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14:58 * Calinou crafts Meze for kaeza
14:58 VanessaE Calinou: what, no mese menger sponges yet? :)
14:59 kaeza Meze?
14:59 Calinou heh
14:59 Calinou kaeza, a block in Carbone
14:59 Calinou (actually not craftable)
14:59 VanessaE kaeza: poisonous mese
14:59 kaeza oh
14:59 Calinou I could add recipe to craft Meze, just for fun
14:59 Calinou 9 Mese = 9 Meze
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14:59 PenguinDad Build a house out of Meze :P
14:59 VanessaE Calinou: recipe conflict.  that's for compressed mese from some old mod
14:59 VanessaE infinite mod I think
15:00 VanessaE infinity*
15:00 Calinou ah
15:00 Calinou PenguinDad, what if you fail while building?
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15:00 Calinou only way to remove without dying is dig arrow
15:00 kaeza 8 Mese + 1 Poison Ivy = 1 Meze
15:01 Calinou 1 Mese + 8 jungle grass maybe
15:01 VanessaE a use for poison ivy!!!
15:01 VanessaE :D
15:01 kaeza at least that's some use for that darned poison ivy :P
15:01 kaeza :D
15:01 PenguinDad Calinou: that's why dig arrows are useful ;)
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15:01 liljnc3_ hi
15:02 VanessaE liljnc3_: [07-24 10:46] <liljnc3> hi i cant get any of the servers to work   <---- explain
15:02 VanessaE what doesn't work?
15:02 VanessaE Calinou: jungle grass? :<
15:02 liljnc3_ i cant get the publick serverlist to load
15:03 VanessaE liljnc3_: does your build have cURL support>?
15:03 liljnc3_ yes
15:03 VanessaE aew you using a specific server URL for the list?
15:03 VanessaE if so, remove it
15:03 PenguinDad your dns probably didn't get the ip change
15:04 kizeren3 Mine does that too at times.  Piss poor crap CenturyLink calls thier DSL is to blame on my side.
15:04 VanessaE that too
15:04 liljnc3_ i dont know how to
15:04 VanessaE liljnc3_: just wait it out.
15:04 liljnc3_ ok
15:04 VanessaE liljnc3_: meanwhile, use your favorites list
15:05 VanessaE (un-check the "[ ] Public Server list" checkbox)
15:05 VanessaE or just type in an address directly.
15:05 VanessaE you don't HAVE to use the public list
15:05 liljnc3_ ok
15:06 liljnc3_ meow test
15:06 liljnc3_ what is that
15:06 VanessaE minetest.org port 30018
15:07 liljnc3_ is meowtest up
15:07 VanessaE !up minetest.org 30018
15:07 MinetestBot minetest.org:30018 is up (934ms)
15:07 VanessaE seems to be :P
15:07 VanessaE so just try it
15:08 VanessaE come on, learn to use your client
15:08 VanessaE you're not gonna break it
15:08 liljnc3_ ok it says no such is know
15:08 VanessaE Meowtest works for me.  I can connect just fine.
15:09 liljnc3_ ok that is worud
15:09 liljnc3_ wird
15:09 kizeren3 Reboot? Router? Maybe?
15:10 liljnc3_ ok brb
15:10 Calinou VanessaE, a Menger sponge would probably require tons of nodeboxes
15:10 Calinou 20 for 1 iteration I think
15:10 VanessaE Calinou: fake it :)
15:10 Calinou a true one
15:10 VanessaE just get creative with the textures
15:11 Calinou faking it with a 16² texture is impossible
15:11 VanessaE Calinou: I count 12 nodeboxes for 1 iteration
15:12 VanessaE remember the edges for one side will cover the adjacent sides
15:12 Calinou ah
15:13 Calinou http://anandtech.com/show/8201/the-asus-hq-tour-testing-facilities-qvl
15:14 VanessaE if it's 12 nodeboxes for one iteration I guess it would be what, about 200 for 2? ;)
15:15 * PenguinDad throws a SierpiÅ„ski tetrahedron at VanessaE
15:16 * VanessaE ducks
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15:18 VanessaE lesse...  12 for one...  each of the corners will need 12 for sure, so that's 8*12.  fill in with 4 segments to complete the missing edges, so that's another 12*4, so 144 for 2 iterations
15:19 VanessaE ouch
15:19 VanessaE of course you could easily reduce them by combining them along their lengths
15:19 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #53 from ShadowNinja/fix-lua-runtime-error https:/ 2014-07-24T11:19:13-04:00 http://git.io/yn7g3A
15:19 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix runtime error checking with lua* commands https:/ 2014-07-23T18:21:21-04:00 http://git.io/c_7wqw
15:36 raffahacks If I've got a 15+15w amplifier board that goes from 7v to 19v, do i get more power by putting 18 instead of 9v?
15:38 VanessaE nope
15:39 VanessaE it just has an auto-ranging power supply is all
15:39 raffahacks Is it the same?
15:39 raffahacks Sure?
15:39 VanessaE it'll probably be slightly more efficient when driven closer to 18 than 9v, but you won't likely get more actual power out of it
15:40 VanessaE auto-ranging power supplies aren't uncommon - my computer has one.
15:40 raffahacks Thanks
15:40 VanessaE it'll take anything from 90 to 250v or something like that.
15:40 raffahacks It is a tda7297
15:40 raffahacks The amp ic
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15:41 VanessaE *checks datasheet*
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15:42 raffahacks So, maybe it just has a lm7805 and after taking voltage it goes down to 5v?
15:42 VanessaE idk
15:43 VanessaE however the chip itself can go to 18v
15:43 VanessaE so probably not
15:43 VanessaE ick, 10% THD
15:43 VanessaE don't try running that thing at max power, it'll sound like ass
15:44 raffahacks Which voltage is good?
15:44 VanessaE hm, 10% in one place, 1% in another.  well anyway don't run it at max power.
15:44 VanessaE this chip is probably meant to be run at 12v nominal.  doesn't say in the datasheet though
15:46 raffahacks Ok thanks. It sounds like ass really at max power, but i thought it was just because the voltage was low.
15:46 raffahacks Is it a bad ic? It was very cheap, the whole board at 3$ on ebay china :)
15:47 VanessaE not a bad IC
15:47 VanessaE it's probably meant more as a pre-amp than a final amp
15:47 raffahacks No?
15:47 raffahacks Ah ok
15:47 VanessaE you know, something to drive a set of PC speakers
15:47 VanessaE or as a first stage prior to feeding some MOSFETs or so
15:48 raffahacks So for a portable speaker it's bad...
15:48 * PenguinDad has no real idea of electronics
15:48 VanessaE "The TDA7297 is a dual bridge amplifier specially designed for TV and Portable Radio applications."
15:48 VanessaE says the datasheet
15:48 VanessaE so yeah, same basic purpose
15:49 raffahacks Portable radio = portable speaker
15:49 VanessaE more or less yeah
15:49 raffahacks Or quite similar
15:49 VanessaE you're not using it to feed the subs in the trunk of your car :)
15:49 raffahacks No:)
15:50 raffahacks But it isn't as powerful as what I thought... Maybe just because I listened too much loud rock music in earphones
15:51 VanessaE heh
15:51 VanessaE 15W is fine if you have a good driver attached to it
15:51 raffahacks Driver?
15:51 VanessaE try to cram that through a little 6cm driver and it ain't gonna do squat
15:51 VanessaE the actual speaker.
15:52 raffahacks Is a 6 inch woofer ok?
15:52 VanessaE probably not.
15:52 VanessaE and I wouldn't call 6 inches a woofer either :P
15:53 VanessaE that's midrange :)
15:53 raffahacks It was a car woofer, they wrote woofer on it
15:53 VanessaE marketspeek :P
15:53 VanessaE I dunno, maybe 4-6 inches is about right if you mount it in a good cabinet.
15:53 GhostDoge I'm a woofer :P
15:53 raffahacks But you're right. It's a midrange
15:54 VanessaE 12 inches is a woofer.  :)
15:54 raffahacks GhostDoge: :D
15:54 * GhostDoge barks at raffahacks
15:54 VanessaE half of getting good sound out of an amp is attaching a good speaker to it.  the other half is making sure that speaker is mounted in a properly-constructed cabinet or box.
15:55 * raffahacks says GhostDoge he's a bad dog
15:56 raffahacks Is a midrange not ok? Do i need some mini-wonders or something like that?
15:57 VanessaE depends on how it sounds.
15:57 raffahacks Woofers t9 sorry :/
15:57 VanessaE god a good equalizer hooked up, you can probably make that midrange sound just fine for the purpose you seem to have in mind.
15:57 VanessaE got*
15:58 VanessaE (you can of course do EQ in software)
15:58 raffahacks If i connect a 8w speaker to a 15 amp?
15:58 VanessaE you mean 8 ohm
15:59 raffahacks Er... I think 8, yes
15:59 VanessaE that's a common impedance for a speaker.
15:59 VanessaE should be fine
15:59 VanessaE but how it sounds depends greatly on the enclosure you put the speaker in, and how loud your source is before it reaches the amplifier circuit, too
15:59 VanessaE as well as the quality of the sound
16:00 raffahacks Doesn't it sound like a crow?
16:00 VanessaE I mean if you go pumping crap into that amplifier, you'll get nothing but crap out of the speaker :)
16:00 VanessaE sound like a crow?
16:01 raffahacks Strange expression, sorry, my English is bad
16:02 VanessaE bottom line:  build it right, don't "cut corners", and your project should work fine based around that 15W amplifier.
16:02 raffahacks Crow = black bird that makes annoying loud sounds?
16:03 VanessaE yes.
16:03 VanessaE that expression just didn't make sense is all.
16:04 GhostDoge scarecrow is a many scary crow
16:04 raffahacks Sorry, just for the sounds
16:04 VanessaE raffahacks: nevermind :)
16:05 raffahacks GhostDoge: very scary
16:06 raffahacks Will it be ok at 7.4v then?
16:07 VanessaE probably.
16:07 VanessaE bbl
16:08 raffahacks Then i connected a board
16:09 raffahacks Try to search mp5 2.4 board remote on aliexpress
16:10 Calinou crowfunding.
16:10 Calinou (how many French people spell “crowdfunding”)
16:11 Calinou * PenguinDad has no real idea of electronics
16:11 Calinou me too
16:11 Calinou I tend to hate people talking about electronics like that
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16:17 raffahacks Sorry, bad connection
16:18 raffahacks http://is.gd/59205920
16:18 PenguinDad awesome when compiling minetest-classic with clang I get a warning in every file
16:18 raffahacks This is the board
16:18 Calinou it only supports classic compilers
16:19 PenguinDad lol
16:23 raffahacks PenguinDad:warning isn't error
16:23 raffahacks I usually ignore them
16:25 raffahacks Don't know if it's a good policy ;)
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16:33 PenguinDad okay compiling minetest-classic with clang ended kind of fatal
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16:55 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
16:56 Calinou don't ignore warnings
16:56 Calinou fix them
16:56 Calinou it's like W3C stuff usually
16:56 Jordach ahh
16:57 Jordach Time in pool: 4 hours
16:58 * sfan5 throws Jordach into a pool (full of water)
16:58 Jordach oh pls
16:59 sfan5 meow :3
16:59 Jordach i can apparently breakdance in water, but not outside of it
16:59 Jordach and my external temp is 17C
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16:59 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5
17:00 * sfan5 purrs
17:00 Jordach holy shit VanessaE has 3007 posts
17:00 * sfan5 curls up to Jordachs lap
17:01 PenguinDad VanessaE is going to get in the 4000 league too D:
17:01 sfan5 Total posts:3506
17:01 sfan5 me haz many too
17:01 Jordach i posted today but still have 3999
17:03 PenguinDad stop playing with the post counter
17:03 Calinou I have less than 3000
17:03 Calinou I'm one of the oldest active forum member
17:04 PenguinDad I have less than 1000 :(
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17:08 Calinou but we all read them with Fluttershy voice, so they're worth triple
17:09 PenguinDad 345 posts then :)
17:09 * Jordach reads it in a human voice
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17:12 * shadowzone hands sfan5 a ball of yarn
17:12 * sfan5 curls up to shadowzones lap
17:15 PenguinDad why aren't the irc stats in the topic anymore?
17:16 Calinou meh, useless
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17:17 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
17:17 * Jordach meows at sfan5
17:17 sfan5 yay :3
17:18 VanessaE Jordach: to be fair, a goodly portion of my recent posts are from updates on dreambuilder and homedecor.
17:19 VanessaE so that doesn't really count.
17:21 * shadowzone pets sfan5
17:22 * Krock pets ShadowNinja
17:22 Krock shadowzone *
17:23 shadowzone Krock yeah yeah yeah I am not a cat.
17:25 * PenguinDad gives Krock a <°((((((((((((-<
17:25 * Krock noms it
17:25 * VanessaE points her dog at shadowzone ...  I have one of these and I am NOT afraid to use it!
17:25 VanessaE :D
17:26 * Krock gives PenguinDad <™†††††((((-<
17:26 * Krock couldn't eat the complete fish
17:29 * PenguinDad noms it
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17:29 * shadowzone puts her hands up
17:29 shadowzone VanessaE I surrender.
17:29 Krock \o/
17:30 Krock |
17:30 Krock / \
17:30 shadowzone Exactly.
17:30 Krock almost.
17:30 shadowzone \o/
17:30 shadowzone |
17:30 Krock fail
17:30 shadowzone /\
17:30 shadowzone What?
17:31 * shadowzone shoots her keyboard
17:31 PenguinDad \o/
17:31 PenguinDad |
17:31 PenguinDad \ /
17:31 Krock exactly.
17:33 * markv gives PenguinDad apt-get moo
17:34 * PenguinDad gives markv aptitude moo
17:34 markv Let's have a speedtest conpetition
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17:39 Exio who has the worst network?
17:39 Exio i'll win at that
17:39 Exio i'm pretty sure noone can beat me!
17:39 PenguinDad markv: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3645600338.png
17:40 VanessaE I thought kaeza had that one?
17:40 Exio still better than mine PenguinDad
17:40 markv lol PenguinDad
17:40 PenguinDad Exio: how can you live?
17:40 Exio PenguinDad, i can't
17:40 Exio also, i have 1mbps @ apartment, and 2mbps @ city house
17:41 Exio (plus 1mbps @ dad's)
17:41 markv I get a modest 500kb/sec
17:41 Exio kb as kbits or kbytes
17:41 markv kb/sec == kilobytes
17:41 markv kbps == kilobits
17:41 sfan5 PenguinDad: >o2
17:41 markv Gigabit internet is now looking pretty...shit
17:41 markv 125, right?
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17:42 VanessaE hm.  only getting a peak of 22 Mbps here.
17:42 sfan5 markv: Kb is bits KB is bytes
17:42 markv speedtest-cli + is.io == Win
17:42 VanessaE sfan5: s/KB/kB/
17:42 markv ix
17:42 * markv doesn't know what sfan said
17:42 PenguinDad sfan5: my speed wouldn't be better with any other ISP
17:42 markv err
17:42 markv Upload: 0.00 Mbits/s
17:42 markv Sure
17:42 sfan5 PenguinDad: how 'bout LTE?
17:43 markv http://ix.io/dyx
17:43 PenguinDad sfan5: doesn't work here either
17:43 Exio atm i've the best network i could have without setting up the network by myself
17:43 Exio something i'm not going to do
17:43 markv !c 0.87 / 8
17:43 MinetestBot 0.10875
17:43 markv mb/sec
17:43 sfan5 MB*
17:44 markv torrent hit 400KB/sec
17:46 markv VanessaE, What upload?
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17:47 markv http://ix.io/dyz
17:47 Exio http://youtu.be/eJEJ6kcyss4
17:58 VanessaE mark: about 4 Mbps
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18:03 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Allow full circle rotation with 2degs step for plantlike drawtype. 3bf05f0 2014-07-24T20:02:20+02:00 http://git.io/oZHEFw
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18:23 luizrpgluiz hi
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18:23 Krock ..
18:30 Krock http://i.imgur.com/O2VD1QV.png
18:32 Krock 2345
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18:33 PenguinDad Krock: you have to share that here ;) http://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying
18:34 Krock :D
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18:48 * Jordach can feel his skin regenerate
18:54 * Krock gives Jordach a 10 nodes long to-do list for creating new skins
18:54 Jordach Krock, my shoulders fucking hurt
18:56 * Krock takes away the to-do list and gives him a tea
18:59 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Dont display interior of glasslike_framed node when its not defined. 8979a3d 2014-07-24T20:58:08+02:00 http://git.io/INItTQ
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19:01 sfan5 <sfan5> VanessaE: example: default_wood.png^(default_cobble.png^autoblockbreaker_mask1.png^[makealpha:255,0,255)
19:01 sfan5 <VanessaE> oooooo
19:01 sfan5 <VanessaE> sorta like layer groups
19:01 sfan5 Jordach: ^ soon(tm)
19:01 Jordach eh
19:02 sfan5 ?
19:02 Jordach confusked
19:02 sfan5 <sfan5> VanessaE: will create default_cobble.png^autoblockbreaker_mask1.png^[makealpha:255,0,255 and then do default_wood.png^what_it_just_created
19:02 sfan5 ^ Jordach
19:02 sfan5 a bit like math
19:03 Jordach yes
19:03 sfan5 1 * (2 + 3)
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19:32 raffahacks VanessaE: your advices were very useful!
19:33 VanessaE :)
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19:35 raffahacks I tested it with a multi-voltage power supply and it worked at same power at 12 and 7 volts
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19:35 PenguinDad I love these "Adjust your ... setting until you can just see the difference." screen calibrations
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19:39 PenguinDad because I see a difference even at the highest/lowest settings
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19:53 * raffahacks finds the channel too quiet
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20:02 * Jordach can still feel the burns
20:02 WindHero 'Tis true: Unity3D is a HUGE download.
20:02 WindHero hi Jordach
20:04 Jordach sunburn hurts
20:04 Jordach 1) redownload skyrim, don't go outside again
20:05 WindHero lol
20:05 WindHero Better not ever come to Hawaii then, lol
20:05 WindHero although, it's been VERY rainy the last couple of weeks, so np
20:05 markv http://ix.io/dyq
20:05 WindHero Our driveway is a mudhole @_@
20:06 WindHero 1,152,088 KB later....
20:06 WindHero Now I gotta update my local install
20:07 Jordach i've realised my SolaHelm isn't enough with UV warnings, may need to print SolaSuit prototypes
20:08 WindHero lol
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20:10 WindHero apparently, you can get Unity Pro for free if you pass Nintendo's requirements to become a WiiU developer...
20:10 WindHero I would finally be able to make a game with this kinda awesomesauce: https://mediacru.sh/gOV2tRqJsezu
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20:28 * Krock knows paramat's age. omg. such secret.
20:30 Jordach he's wat, 42
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20:31 Krock ^
20:33 WindHero The reply to cg72's post was a giveaway
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20:34 shadowzone her post?
20:35 WindHero <paramat> "crazyginger72 eh? 1972 is a special year for me ;)"
20:35 Jordach Krock, i just guessed
20:35 Jordach at random
20:35 shadowzone I know how old she is.
20:35 Jordach 42 :)
20:35 Jordach </sarcasm?>
20:35 Krock Jordach, but it seems to be correctly
20:36 shadowzone cg72 isn't 42?
20:36 shadowzone o.O
20:36 shadowzone cg72 said she is 28.
20:36 * Jordach waits for Skyrim
20:36 Krock 28 * salt = 42
20:36 WindHero 1972 + 42 = 2014
20:37 Krock 42 ismagic
20:37 shadowzone that does make the 8 years in the army sound more realistic.
20:37 WindHero If the sky has a rim.... does the earth have a bowl?
20:38 WindHero How many roads must one walk? 42
20:38 Krock 1*42,2*21,3*14,6*7   = 42
20:38 Krock WindHero, The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind. the answer is blowin' in the wind
20:39 WindHero I pulled random tiles out of a Scrabble bag the other day
20:39 WindHero it spelt "What is six times 9"
20:39 WindHero *nine
20:39 WindHero Earth broke.
20:40 Krock 6 * 9 = 3 * 18 = 54
20:40 WindHero yup, broken.
20:41 WindHero And it's all Arthur Dent's fault.
20:41 Krock WindHero, what's 3↑3?
20:41 WindHero 27?
20:41 Krock exactly
20:41 Krock what's 3↑↑3?
20:42 WindHero not familiar with that notation, but I'll guess 81
20:42 WindHero or 27*27
20:42 WindHero if that's what you meant
20:42 Krock idk, too :3
20:42 WindHero Unless, by assumption...
20:43 WindHero 3^0^3
20:43 Krock saw a Numbersphile video about it
20:43 WindHero which is 3
20:43 Krock can'tremember
20:43 Krock ^0^
20:43 WindHero lol
20:43 WindHero o/
20:43 Krock o
20:43 Krock \
20:44 PenguinDad /o\
20:44 PenguinDad |
20:44 PenguinDad \ /
20:44 Krock !rev
20:44 MinetestBot Krock: Nothing to reverse.
20:44 Krock !rev ,03colors?
20:44 MinetestBot ?sroloc30,40\x03
20:45 WindHero 30x\255
20:45 PenguinDad Many Colorful
20:45 WindHero lol
20:45 Krock !rainbow PenguinDad
20:45 MinetestBot 4P4e4n7g7u7i8n8D8a3d
20:46 PenguinDad PenguinDad
20:46 Jordach !rev blue!
20:46 MinetestBot \x03!eulb21\x03
20:46 WindHero I took a math placement exam the other day for getting ahead in college
20:46 Krock eulb
20:46 WindHero I think I got everything right, lol
20:46 Jordach \03x\21blue!03x\
20:46 Jordach damn
20:46 Jordach \03x\21blue!\03x\
20:46 Jordach naw
20:47 Krock ,02more blue
20:47 PenguinDad plolololol
20:47 WindHero 30x\MaybeThisWay!30x\
20:47 Krock ,09haha! color blinds!
20:47 PenguinDad No this way
20:48 WindHero \30x\MaybeThisWay!30x\
20:48 WindHero yams this.
20:48 Krock >$05,05< usethis
20:49 WindHero Hic est nunc.
20:49 Krock ,13Kitteh
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20:50 * WindHero gives Krock's kitteh milk
20:50 PenguinDad ,09W,12t,09f ,10a,08r,07e ,08y,12o,07u ,12d,11o,07i,12n,04g,03?
20:50 WindHero That.... must have taken a while
20:50 PenguinDad /prism -e
20:50 PenguinDad ^ WindHero nope
20:51 Krock ,13Kitteh ,00Milk ,01!
20:51 yaman how do you disable the bones mod?
20:51 Krock DELETE
20:51 WindHero delete it
20:51 Partmedia ;)
20:51 yaman ok thanks
20:51 Krock cd \ del *
20:52 sfan5 !rainbow meow
20:52 MinetestBot 4m4e4o7w
20:52 WindHero !rainbow purr
20:52 MinetestBot 4p4u4r7r
20:53 PenguinDad purrpurrpurrpurrpurrpurr
20:53 Krock !rainbow MYAN MEOW MEOW MEOW
20:53 MinetestBot 4M4Y4A7N7 7M8E8O8W3 3M3EOW 6M6E6OW
20:53 Krock !c '\n' + "test"
20:53 MinetestBot '\ntest'
20:54 PenguinDad Krock: ニャー ニャー ニャー
20:54 Krock I see so many squares
20:54 sfan5 Krock: !c does a repr() on the stuff it output, even it wouldn't \r's and \n's are stripped from the text before sending it
20:54 sfan5 Krock: install some japanese fonts
20:54 sfan5 !rainbow 猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫
20:54 MinetestBot 4猫4猫4猫7猫7猫7猫8猫8猫8猫3猫3猫3猫猫猫猫6猫6猫6猫猫猫猫4猫4猫4猫7猫7猫7猫8猫
20:54 Krock japanse is useless.
20:54 sfan5 no u
20:55 sfan5 PenguinDad: 猫4猫4猫7猫7猫7猫8猫8猫8猫3猫3猫3猫猫猫猫6猫6猫6猫猫猫猫4猫4猫4猫7猫7猫7猫8猫
20:55 PenguinDad 猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫
20:55 sfan5 !rainbow neko neko neko neko neko neko neko neko neko neko neko neko neko
20:55 MinetestBot 4n4e4k7o7 7n8e8k8o3 3n3eko 6n6e6ko n4e4k4o7 7n7e8k8o8 3n3e3ko n6e6k6o ne4k4o4 7n7e7k8o8 8n3e3k3o ne6k6o6 nek4o
20:56 sfan5 PenguinDad: have a 狐!
20:57 WindHero !rainbow nekomimi
20:57 MinetestBot 4n4e4k7o7m7i8m8i
20:58 sfan5 meow
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21:01 * sfan5 throws http://cdn.awwni.me/o6vz.jpg at PenguinDad
21:02 sfan5 or how about cat
21:02 sfan5 http://cdn.awwni.me/o6og.jpg
21:03 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
21:03 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
21:03 sfan5 !tell LemonLake http://cdn.awwni.me/o6mt.jpg
21:03 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever
21:03 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
21:03 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
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21:08 * sfan5 throws http://cdn.awwni.me/o6m8.jpg at asie
21:08 asie Cute/10
21:08 * shadowzone throws sfan5 some yarn
21:08 * sfan5 noms it
21:09 sfan5 asie: http://cdn.awwni.me/o68l.jpg
21:09 * shadowzone stares blankly at sfan5
21:09 * sfan5 licks shadowzone
21:10 shadowzone What is it with you a anime girl who look like cats?
21:10 * sfan5 is a cat
21:10 sfan5 shadowzone: enough explanation?
21:10 shadowzone Yep.
21:10 shadowzone Affirmative.
21:14 xnrand sfan5: a cat? you've cat to be kitten me right meow
21:14 sfan5 lol
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21:31 eugd anyone elses steam install shit itself after recent update?
21:31 eugd all my games are uninstalled but disk space still used
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21:45 kizeren eugd, mine did that few days ago.
21:45 eugd kizeren how did you fix? or have you?
21:46 kizeren Fortunetly, all I have are alpha games so they are always updating/wiping out my saves.  So I just redownloaded it all.
21:47 kizeren You could backup your steam folder/games.  then put it all back in.
21:48 PenguinDad lol I just made my whole world red
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22:21 eugd i fixed it
22:22 eugd it was in .save folder
22:22 eugd for some reason
22:30 kizeren Playstarbound by chance?
22:31 eugd nope
22:31 eugd really just tf2
22:32 eugd huge backlog that gathers dust while i master demopan
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23:01 Eivel Is anyone still up?
23:02 VanessaE no :)
23:02 shadowzone I am.
23:03 Eivel I'm trying to secure my code from writing incorrect playername, but I can't find any way to check it. minetest.get_player_by_name() freezes my client. So does get_player_information
23:04 Eivel Freezes whenever I enter incorrect playername, I meant
23:07 Eivel Well, looks like I have to wait for suggestions until morning :d
23:08 VanessaE no idea there, sorry
23:11 Jordach Eivel, if minetest.get_player_by_name(puncher) == nil then
23:11 Jordach the brackets need an argument, eg, playerref
23:13 Eivel Jordach: I know, i pass the string there. But still it freezes my client instead of returning nil.
23:13 Jordach you don't pass a string
23:13 Jordach you pass a playerref
23:14 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/jsethome/init.lua#L30
23:16 Eivel Jordach: Isn't the "name" a string passed through a command?
23:19 Jordach Eivel, players are stored as numerical ids
23:20 Jordach the name is just a sub-data that is part of a playerref
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23:22 Eivel But this example bases on player that invoked the command. My problem is that I have no playerref, only his name. Inside an event called from one player I have to call some action on another.
23:30 Jordach Eivel, then that's impossible
23:30 Jordach to the engine; the player name string means nothing
23:31 Eivel Aren't there even some global table that I could iterate and compare it's name attribute with a string? It must cache these strings somewhere
23:35 Eivel store* would be a better word here than cache
23:35 Jordach hold on
23:35 Jordach lemme go shed that burnt skin off
23:50 Eivel Jordach: Burnt skin? Doesn't sound good. Hope you get well
23:51 Jordach sunburn
23:51 Jordach my skin nearly matches the colour cream, if not whiter
23:51 Eivel Jordach: Also I managed to walkaround this problem. I found playernames stored in a txt file by one of mods
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23:52 Eivel ah, I also have very white skin and must be careful when sunbathing

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