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00:30 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zb9T365Cc
00:31 Jordach !tell ecutruin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zb9T365Cc
00:31 MinetestBot Jordach: yeah, sure, whatever
00:32 UukGoblin http://i.imgur.com/1S4iMpr.png <- these balls are srsly multiplying
00:34 VanessaE yeah, those are probably slimes
00:38 Exio \o/
00:38 UukGoblin can I kill their nest somehow? Or at least figure out where it is exactly?
00:38 Exio my mupl interpreter is 100% finished
00:38 UukGoblin I like my stairwells clean ;-)
00:38 Exio 100%!
00:38 UukGoblin Exio, "I just need to fix this little bug there and..."
00:39 Exio exactly
00:39 Exio :D
00:40 Exio well
00:41 Exio it _seems_ to work
00:43 UukGoblin that would violate Murphy's laws
00:44 UukGoblin although... check again! ;-)
00:51 Exio i said seems because some things aren't where they should be
00:51 Exio but because other part fucked up
00:54 fling Why do I need all these deps on the server? -> http://dpaste.com/1P865ZQ
00:54 fling Is it possible to disable things? :p
00:55 Jordach fling, because it's easier to develop the server with parts of the graphics inside of it
00:55 Jordach less having to dupe code :P
00:58 fling Jordach: ok so is not there a configure key like --server-only ?
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00:58 Jordach you can only just build the minetestserver binaries
00:58 fling Jordach: how to do so?
00:58 VanessaE cmake flag, -DBUILD_CLIENT=0
00:58 fling VanessaE: thanks!
00:59 fling what are the deps?
01:02 fling are the server dependencies documented?
01:02 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L106
01:02 fling Jordach: thanks
01:02 * fling is fixing the ebuild
01:13 Megaf filithose are not server dependencies
01:13 Megaf those are client deps
01:14 Megaf fireglow;
01:15 Megaf ops
01:15 Megaf fling;
01:15 Megaf apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libsqlite3-dev  libcurl4-gnutls-dev
01:15 Megaf these are the things you need
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01:53 Exio wooo
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04:04 Exio \o/
04:04 Exio MUPL works!
04:20 Exio http://dpaste.com/2C9H659 <- real working code
04:20 Exio :D
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05:18 fling Megaf: thanks.
05:21 fling Is not there syslog support? Why?
05:22 Exio why minetest doesn't support syslog output?
05:23 Exio because no one ever needed it i guess
05:26 fling What is the difference between Debug and RelWithDebInfo ?
05:26 fling Exio: I want it!
05:26 Exio iirc RelWithDebInfo optimizes while Debug doesn't
05:26 fling ok
05:26 Exio not sure though
05:28 fling hmm hmmm with a game user must accept every builtin mod lecense hmm hmmmm
05:28 Exio fling, did you see the paste? :P
05:29 fling Exio: looking now
05:29 fling WHY? :D
05:30 Exio why what!
05:30 Exio that is my toy languagwe
05:30 Exio that is my toy language
05:30 Exio :D
05:30 fling I got it but why are you doing it? :P
05:30 fling is not brainf*ck good enough?
05:30 fling or prolog?
05:31 Exio fling, because i'm bored and coding a functional language isn't that hard
05:31 Exio (the performance is _shit_ though
05:31 Exio )
05:31 fling Exio: why are not you coding syslog support yet?
05:32 Exio lol
05:32 fling haha ;D
05:36 fling Are there any releases and/or snapshots after 0.4.10?
05:36 fling I want to have some fixed version distfiles
05:37 Exio there are no "mid" releases, it is either 0.4.10 or "next version"
05:37 fling or do I always _have_ to install from master?
05:37 Exio you could use git commits though
05:37 fling Exio: and/or create my own snapshots
05:37 Exio yeah
05:37 Exio somehow "using git commits" ;P
05:37 fling Exio: I don't want git to be the dep btw
05:37 Exio ah
05:37 Exio k
05:38 Exio woo
05:38 fling wut?
05:38 Exio ((&x -> 3+x) !c. (&x -> 2*x)) !map z
05:38 Exio 3+(2*x)
05:38 Exio over list z
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06:01 Exio night \o
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06:55 Hirato just -Og it
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06:55 LemonLake Hirato: excuse me?
06:56 Hirato optimises without compromisign debugability, or so it claims
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07:20 hoodedice morning
07:20 us`0gb Morning, hoodedice!
07:20 hoodedice found this nice server
07:21 hoodedice well planned and shiz
07:21 hoodedice BUT I hate it when you need to get interact from mods
07:21 Eater4 Where hoodedice
07:21 hoodedice Minetestville
07:21 us`0gb hoodedice: Yeah, me too. I refuse to ask.
07:22 sfan5 meow
07:22 sfan5 hi everyone
07:23 us`0gb Hey sfan5!
07:27 Eater4 Hi!
07:28 hoodedice sfan5!
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07:31 us`0gb Hello Eater4!
07:31 Eater4 Hi us`0gb!
07:33 sfan5 !tell Jordach oh god what did you do?? (ref. http://youtu.be/42zb9T365Cc)
07:33 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
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07:38 us`0gb Minetest can do that now?
07:38 us`0gb I had no idea.
07:41 us`0gb It's been getting up to 34° here though, I could definitely use a fan.
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07:44 hoodedice us, Jordach uses some hacky method
07:44 hoodedice BTW, amazon started yet another site
07:45 hoodedice This one uses more informal tongue - I feel it makes fun of shoppers
07:45 Krock moin
07:45 hoodedice I mean, look at this http://electronics.woot.com/offers/random-crap-209
07:59 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice
07:59 * hoodedice shouts at sfan because Meowtest is down
07:59 sfan5 it is?
07:59 sfan5 !up minetest.org 300018
07:59 MinetestBot minetest.org:300018 seems to be down
07:59 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30018
07:59 MinetestBot minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
07:59 sfan5 !server Meow
07:59 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
08:00 sfan5 D: D: :c
08:00 Krock :<
08:04 hoodedice :sadface:
08:09 hoodedice irrelevant stuff you probably didn't know:
08:09 * hoodedice 's laptop's heat sink is a 586 page calculus book.
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08:13 hoodedice !tell Jordach - Expect Tomb Raider ;D
08:13 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
08:13 Calinou dungeon raider would be what you do in Minetest :p
08:13 sfan5 oh god what
08:13 hoodedice Cal, nah, not MT related
08:14 sfan5 xchats logging format is not compatible with hexchats
08:14 hoodedice proprietary, closed source, capitalist, Eidos related
08:14 hoodedice =P
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08:17 sfan5 oh nevermind
08:17 sfan5 they are compatible
08:17 sfan5 note to self: "scrollback" != "logs"
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08:23 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30018
08:23 MinetestBot minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
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08:35 Calinou mgv6 without mud flow reminds me a lot of mgv5 sometimes
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08:51 Calinou MediaFire keeps opening pop-ups despite having ABP and pop-ups “blocked”
08:51 Calinou browser exploits…
08:57 sfan5 hm
08:57 sfan5 if the serverlist momentarily goes down we lose more than 50% players
08:57 sfan5 Players: 94/257
08:59 Calinou what does the 257 mean
08:59 Calinou amount of slots available?
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09:15 sfan5 Calinou: max. amount of players
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09:16 Calinou so it's the amount of slots available
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09:18 sfan5 Calinou: no, the amount of clients that were online at once
09:18 Calinou ah
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09:33 Krock who's that? http://i.imgur.com/6JZ6XKh.jpg
09:36 Calinou Krock, maybe IronSnout X10K: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/tezndNrxkfvv.jpg
09:39 Krock Calinou, but those things are blak and not green
09:40 sfan5 Krock: batman
09:40 Krock maybe...
09:40 Krock hohoho http://i.imgur.com/Eqb7cDz.gif
09:40 Krock an other hero
09:42 PenguinDad Krock: that's not a hero
09:42 PenguinDad that's deadpool
09:42 Krock ...
09:44 PenguinDad Krock: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Deadpool.png
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09:51 Krock it's spiderman
09:52 UukGoblin what's the best tool to mine clay?
09:52 PenguinDad UukGoblin: shovels
09:52 UukGoblin PenguinDad, thanks
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09:53 PenguinDad spiderman disguised as deadpool lol
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11:13 UukGoblin my cart's disappeared!
11:14 UukGoblin I guess I have to put them back in a chest after use?
11:15 VanessaE they're entities and they can be erased by things like /clearobjects or if the engine thinks there are too many in a mapblock
11:15 VanessaE so yeah, store it away when it's not in use
11:16 UukGoblin ook
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12:05 UukGoblin the grinder recipe doesn't seem to work.. :-S I have 5 desert stones on the top, a diamond in the middle, copper ingot at the bottom, and two normal stones at bottom sides
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12:09 * Krock likes one-node-machines (only change infotext and not the complete node)
12:11 UukGoblin do I need a Constructor? what are they for?
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12:13 * Krock loves 10-slot hotbars
12:14 VanessaE I need to add something like that to Dreambuilder also
12:14 * PenguinDad prefers 16-slot hotbars
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12:32 PenguinDad The cacti produced by noisetest are quite high :)
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12:34 MinetestBot ecutruin: 07-18 05:31 UTC <Jordach> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zb9T365Cc
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12:35 PenguinDad !c 0.0625/2
12:35 MinetestBot 0.03125
12:39 Krock !c math.pow(99, 2)
12:39 MinetestBot 9801.0
12:39 Krock !c math.pow(99, 3)
12:39 MinetestBot 970299.0
12:40 PenguinDad !c math.pow(16, 3)
12:40 MinetestBot 4096.0
12:40 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot
12:40 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad
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12:41 MinetestBot Jordach: 07-18 13:13 UTC <hoodedice> - Expect Tomb Raider ;D
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12:41 Jordach sfan5, hybrid entity nodes!
12:42 Jordach and yet we still don't have fucking goddamn meshnodes
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12:42 ecutruin Nice, Jordach, making more hybrid node concepts.
12:44 Jordach http://youtu.be/42zb9T365Cc ^
12:46 ecutruin Yeah, bot showed me.
12:50 Jordach if one listens you can hear Spotify
12:50 Krock !title
12:50 MinetestBot Krock: YAHN - Desk Fan (Muted-ish) - YouTube
12:51 * Jordach decides to clone homedecor and get stuff done
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12:53 Jordach s/morning/afternoon/ LemonLake
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12:56 Bearbar123 hello
12:58 PenguinDad ^ stayed a long time
12:58 Jordach lelelelelelelel
12:58 VanessaE heh
12:58 sfan5 Jordach: pull requests welcome
12:58 Krock lol
12:58 Jordach sfan5, wat
12:58 sfan5 Jordach: aka http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patches%20are%20welcome&amp;defid=7833039
12:59 sfan5 :DF
12:59 sfan5 s/F//
13:00 VanessaE haha
13:00 VanessaE I wouldn't put it in THOSE terms...
13:01 Jordach VanessaE, https://github.com/Jordach/homedecor_modpack/commit/077554f825b79a3fb2883034ff6a8e6888807195
13:01 sfan5 VanessaE: https://pay.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/2aylx7/pull_requests_welcome/cj07zen
13:04 VanessaE Jordach: looking...
13:05 VanessaE Jordach: you didn't make it /clearobjects-proof? :(
13:05 Jordach VanessaE, later
13:06 VanessaE ok
13:06 Jordach technically replacing the object or punching it restores it
13:07 Jordach (on_right click can restart it, or an abm)
13:08 VanessaE ok I'll merge it
13:08 VanessaE lemme work up some recipes
13:09 VanessaE you gonna do box fans and standing/floor fans also?
13:09 Jordach yes
13:09 Jordach eventually
13:09 VanessaE ok
13:09 VanessaE this will affect the recipes then
13:12 LemonLake Jordach: afternoon
13:13 PenguinDad LemonLake: daytime
13:16 LemonLake PenguinDad: night storms
13:16 LemonLake we had the craziest fuckin storm in hemel this morning
13:18 LemonLake and i must leave to the windows edition of the personal computer now
13:18 LemonLake goodbye
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13:26 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ
13:26 reactor Why do some players spawn at 0,0,0?
13:27 reactor Then they shout "get me out of here!" "admin I'm stuckkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!"
13:27 * sfan5 recommends his spawnpoint mod
13:27 sfan5 (not released yet, ping me if wants)
13:27 sfan5 allows you to dynamically add spawnpoints
13:28 sfan5 and adds a /spawn [id] command
13:28 reactor this is interesting... depending on what criterion?
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13:28 reactor ah, so that players can choose where to spawn?
13:28 sfan5 not exactly
13:28 sfan5 they'll be spawned at a random spawnpoint
13:28 sfan5 but they can teleport to another random one via /spawn
13:28 sfan5 or a specific one with .e.g /spawn 2
13:29 reactor hmm
13:29 sfan5 want?
13:30 reactor Well, I've always thought going to spawn eithout losing stuff is cheating.
13:30 sfan5 this is what I have on meowtest too
13:30 sfan5 items are dropped where you die
13:30 reactor I added /kill on my server.
13:30 sfan5 /deathpoint teleports your there
13:30 * sfan5 has player tools, adds /killme
13:30 sfan5 you*
13:30 reactor Aha.
13:31 reactor Well, eh. How much progress has been made on the spawnpoint mod?
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13:31 sfan5 progress?
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13:35 sfan5 reactor: what do you mean with progress?
13:41 reactor Huh?
13:41 PenguinDad sfan5: the inverse of regress :P
13:41 reactor I mean, is it operational?
13:41 reactor Also, what about the spawn problem? Is it a bug or I'm doing something wrong?
13:41 sfan5 I use it on meowtest, so, yes, it works.
13:41 reactor Maybe it's broken clients?
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13:44 Exio \o/
13:47 PenguinDad reactor: this happened to me two times
13:48 PenguinDad I used a kinda outdated client when this happened
13:54 VanessaE Jordach: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/commit/f73cfa1cf5a4ba8bb526ac45d17a04a342c14768
13:54 Jordach ok
13:54 Jordach playing TF2
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14:30 sfan5 meow
14:31 Krock YES! I'm the 90'000 topic viewer of homedecor
14:32 reactor And I'm tired of typing "homecdeor" instead of "homedecor" in worldedit.
14:32 jp VanessaE : in MoreTrees, the (new) palm trees drops a lot of leaves (object) on ground. It's normal ?
14:32 VanessaE yes
14:32 VanessaE you can turn that feature off in the config
14:32 Jordach 26C
14:32 * Jordach is melting
14:33 jp Another slyness from VanessaE :P
14:33 VanessaE jp: nope, you just didn't read the forum post as usual.  :P
14:33 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=4394&amp;start=250#p148302
14:33 Jordach mmm
14:33 Jordach ice cream
14:33 jp teasing ;)
14:33 sfan5 Jordach: 31°C here, and theres "Hot right now" on the radio >.>
14:34 Jordach turn it right up now ay up ay up
14:34 Krock 30.7°C here
14:35 jp 36°C
14:37 jp Wait... just 26°C and you feel melting ?!
14:37 Jordach british :P
14:37 jp Ah, I understand.
14:37 Jordach i prefer negative temps
14:37 * sfan5 throws tea at Jordach
14:37 Jordach pls no
14:37 sfan5 cold tea maybe?
14:38 jp Do not come in south of France, 43°C two years ago.
14:38 Jordach sfan5, bleh
14:38 sfan5 Jordach: ice cream?
14:38 Jordach a nice cold can of Rockstar Black does the job
14:38 sfan5 ah
14:38 sfan5 that reminds me..
14:38 * sfan5 wanders off to put his cookies into the fridge
14:39 sfan5 damnit
14:39 sfan5 I can't go now
14:39 sfan5 they are just playing a good song..
14:39 Jordach you're a kitten, that's why
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14:41 reactor What does one do to prevent breaking in protected areas?
14:41 sfan5 from the lua side?
14:41 reactor From any side.
14:42 sfan5 admin side: define an area
14:42 sfan5 user side: uhhh?
14:42 sfan5 lua side: minetest.register_on_dignode and return false (or something like that)
14:42 PenguinDad and don't use a broken protection mod
14:42 reactor The "areas" mod -- it seems to work, but people can break through protected nodes using lag.
14:43 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PinBVYKQGeM
14:43 Jordach ^ Currently how sfan5 feels
14:44 sfan5 Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar, da es Musik enthalten könnte, über deren Verwendung wir uns mit der GEMA bisher nicht einigen konnten.
14:44 sfan5 damn GEMA
14:44 sfan5 fuck them
14:44 Jordach sfan5, i should start a MT proxy service
14:44 Jordach just use me to view it :P
14:44 sfan5 Jordach: VPN*
14:44 Krock !title
14:44 MinetestBot Krock: Billy Idol - Hot In The City - YouTube
14:45 sfan5 reactor: you can't prevent that, it's the same as noclip hacking (which you can't prevent either)
14:47 reactor ah
14:47 Exio sfan5, http://dpaste.com/1W90JND
14:49 * Krock doesn't like all those broken youtube video downloaders out there
14:49 sfan5 Exio: I dun understand a thing
14:49 PenguinDad Krock: youtube-dl works perfectly
14:49 sfan5 Krock: youtube-dl (the console app)
14:49 Exio it is my functional toy language
14:49 Exio ? <condition>
14:49 * Krock has python :D
14:49 Exio # ..
14:50 Exio # elseclausehere
14:50 Exio :D
14:50 Krock gonna say thanks when it works
14:50 sfan5 or mpv <link> -o video -vco libx264 -vopts crf=21 -aco libfdk_aac -o video.mp4
14:50 Exio wth
14:50 Exio mpv?
14:50 Exio insane
14:50 sfan5 mpv <3
14:51 PenguinDad mpv is awesome
14:51 sfan5 ^
14:51 sfan5 PenguinDad: which linux distribution do you use?
14:51 PenguinDad sfan5: Debian right now
14:53 Krock thanks, PenguinDad and sfan5 :D
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15:05 VanessaE Jordach: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/commit/f73cfa1cf5a4ba8bb526ac45d17a04a342c14768#commitcomment-7062174
15:05 Jordach yes
15:05 Jordach why S("string")
15:06 Jordach seems a little bad
15:06 VanessaE that's for the intllib translator.
15:06 Jordach VanessaE, AH
15:06 VanessaE though I usually end up forgetting about oit
15:06 VanessaE it*
15:10 jp VanessaE : if I merge some decorative mods with your mod, will you accept if I choose "Homedecor+" for this modpack ?
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15:17 UukGoblin hm
15:17 UukGoblin is there a wiki-page generator that'd display registered crafts?
15:17 UukGoblin cause the technic ones must be out of date
15:18 UukGoblin I was thinking to take the .lua files for mods and run them
15:18 UukGoblin but substitute the minetest.register_craft function into something that'd generate wikipages
15:21 VanessaE jp: possibly
15:22 VanessaE jp: depends on what you mean though
15:22 jp Simply more well-designed items.
15:23 VanessaE jp: in that case probably yes :)
15:23 jp (eg. those of Kaeza)
15:24 VanessaE UukGoblin: cornernote already did that
15:25 VanessaE but his code is really old now
15:25 VanessaE (and seems to be long gone now)
15:25 UukGoblin gotta do it again then? :-]
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15:26 VanessaE https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/game-wiki
15:26 VanessaE there it is
15:26 VanessaE well, what's left of it
15:27 UukGoblin thanks
15:27 UukGoblin gah, fuel-fired alloy furnaces eat buckets :-(
15:28 VanessaE they're hungry!
15:30 reactor Dynamite crashes the server.
15:30 reactor TNT does.
15:31 reactor From time to time; one block is enough.
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15:31 jp Yeah, TNT ought be fordidden online.
15:32 PenguinDad forbidden?
15:32 Calinou wrong; it's false to think it's used for griefin
15:32 Calinou griefers have much more efficient ways to grief than using silly TNT
15:33 Calinou (which doesn't work in protected areas anymore)
15:33 jp not only for grief, for crash mainly
15:33 Calinou they won't try getting hundreds of coal to get enough TNT to crash server
15:33 Calinou also, get an auto-restart script
15:33 reactor I've already commented out its craft.
15:34 VanessaE I just delete the whole damn mod from my servers.
15:34 Calinou TNT is rather useless anyway
15:34 Calinou not worth crafting it
15:35 Jordach VanessaE, except i had a fucking factory to make it using pipeworks
15:35 VanessaE jp: what nodes did you have in mind?
15:35 jp For Homedecor+ ?
15:35 VanessaE jp: yeah
15:36 jp Computers, beds, sofa, fake_fire (LazyJ fork), etc.
15:36 VanessaE eh..
15:36 VanessaE computers no
15:36 VanessaE beds, sofa yes
15:36 VanessaE fake fire no
15:36 UukGoblin Calinou, yeah, I was thinking that too. Wasting a whole keg of gunpowder just to put it on the floor is a bit over-the-top too
15:36 jp Not computers ?
15:36 VanessaE computers I don't really consider to be home decorations :)
15:37 UukGoblin I can't imagine a home without a computer ;-)
15:37 VanessaE ok well maybe
15:37 VanessaE I need to talk to kaeza about it too
15:37 UukGoblin (that doesn't mean they don't belong to other mods)
15:37 jp I'm disagree with you, they are pretty well-designed.
15:38 jp Also, mailbox too.
15:38 VanessaE oh don't get me wrong, they're good
15:38 Calinou TNT in Carbone is pretty nerfed and a bit harder to craft (I think)
15:38 Calinou putting huge groups of TNT creates large explosions, but they don't crash server
15:38 Calinou (up to 50-80)
15:38 VanessaE jp: but I'm not convinced that those things are appropriate additions to homedecor
15:38 VanessaE jp: now, sofas, beds definitely.
15:38 jp Plasma Screen too.
15:39 Calinou need 4 wood, 3 coal, 1 gravel per TNT
15:39 PenguinDad Calinou: wieldview rather crashes the server than tnt :P
15:39 Krock Jordach, one more time!
15:40 VanessaE jp: that would work too I think
15:41 jp VanessaE : Fake_Fire forked by LazyJ implement smoke for the fire place. It could be a good association with your chimney.
15:41 VanessaE jp: hm.  good idea.
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15:41 VanessaE ah HAH
15:41 VanessaE speak of the devil and he shall appear
15:42 jp Yeah...
15:42 kaeza <_<
15:42 jp The french expression is with the wolf instead devil ;)
15:42 kaeza mornings
15:42 VanessaE kaeza: jp wants to merge a few of your mods into homedecor :)
15:42 kaeza oh?
15:43 jp With your permission, of course...
15:43 kaeza I forbid it!
15:43 VanessaE well at least one - computers mod
15:43 kaeza J/K, go ahead :P
15:43 jp Ah, it's a pity... :/
15:44 kaeza hmm.. that could be done
15:44 VanessaE jp: have you got links to all the mods you want to use?
15:44 VanessaE github repos
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15:44 jp Not yet, VanessaE, I have to make my listing soon.
15:44 kaeza but pls, does anyone have better textures for them?
15:45 kaeza well, MW oven textures suck anyway
15:45 VanessaE :(
15:46 kaeza (or at least the ones I made did)
15:47 PenguinDad kaeza: I only have a mp3-player texture lying around
15:47 jp I expect merge these functions : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6611 with your computers, kaeza.
15:47 VanessaE eep
15:47 VanessaE no way
15:48 kaeza jp, I'd prefer if that was kept as a separate add-on
15:48 jp Yes, not for Homedecor.
15:48 Calinou <PenguinDad> Calinou: wieldview rather crashes the server than tnt :P
15:48 Calinou how?
15:50 kaeza jp, to be clear, I meant the "terminal" mod, not "computer" mod
15:52 PenguinDad Calinou: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815004/
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15:53 nman3600 Konichiwa, Dono yo ni shite iru?
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15:54 Calinou PenguinDad, /home/vinyl, heh
15:54 nman3600 Konichiwa, Calinou, Dono yo ni shite iru?
15:55 PenguinDad nman3600: shitting in russia?
15:55 Calinou no idea why :(
15:55 Calinou PenguinDad, did you ask on forum topic of wieldview?
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15:56 sfan5 nman3600: nyan
15:56 nman3600 Calinou, "Konichiwa, Dono yo ni shite iru?" Means: "Good afternoon, How are you?"
15:57 sfan5 isn't it Konnichiwa with double n?
15:58 sfan5 mozc suggests こんにちは, so probably not
15:58 sfan5 oh wait
15:58 sfan5 thats with double n
15:59 reactor night!
15:59 sfan5 reactor: >18:00
16:00 PenguinDad sfan5: reactor is in Russia
16:00 sfan5 who cares about russia?
16:01 kaeza wrong, it's 13:01
16:01 PenguinDad UTC+-0 everywhere!
16:01 sfan5 s/UTC\+-0/UTC/
16:01 * sfan5 compiles new ffmpeg
16:02 kaeza s,s\/UTC\\\+\-0\/UTC\/,s/UTC\\+\\-0/UTC/,
16:02 kaeza <_<
16:02 Calinou https://github.com/stuntrally/stuntrally/commit/2938c8462af2e2f8cf6ae11368fa43506be8bf57
16:02 Calinou \o/
16:02 sfan5 s/.+/UTC/
16:02 sfan5 >_>
16:03 * kaeza meows at sfan5
16:03 sfan5 >Staten Island man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold
16:03 sfan5 wtf
16:04 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
16:04 * sfan5 is a cat
16:06 * sfan5 $ pacman -U ffmpeg-full-git-*.pkg.tar.xz
16:13 Krock ,olleh Nac Uoy Daer Siht gnitseretni ?egassem
16:13 khonkhortisan eew you only reversed each word
16:14 khonkhortisan message? interesting thiS reaD yoU caN hello,
16:14 Krock i made a bot, doing that for me :P
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16:14 Krock i edam a ,tob gniod taht rof em P:
16:14 PenguinDad !rev We already have a bot :P
16:14 MinetestBot P: tob a evah ydaerla eW
16:14 khonkhortisan Heh, I could add an irc plugin to make every other line backwards
16:15 khonkhortisan Now that bot does it right.
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16:16 PenguinDad khonkhortisan: I have a rainbow plugin
16:17 Calinou 8C0a3l0i3n0o3u
16:19 PenguinDad Meow
16:19 khonkhortisan Click this link for IRC plugins
16:19 Calinou doesn't work
16:19 Calinou you can't do such a thing on IRC
16:19 khonkhortisan There's no way I could make it work
16:21 PenguinDad Some IRC plugins http://weechat.org/scripts/
16:21 UukGoblin https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/pull/152 <- my first PR :-D
16:22 Calinou the meme scaresm e
16:22 Calinou scares me*
16:23 UukGoblin :->
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16:23 PenguinDad best commit ever :D https://github.com/xnrand/Awwbuntu/commit/ccb749d9250286ee8d4b158ca2c4a45f86826af0
16:25 VanessaE kaeza: shall I just go ahead and merge computers mod into homedecor?
16:33 sfan5 !rainbow PenguinDad: meow meow meow
16:33 MinetestBot 4P4e4n7g7u7i8n8D8a3d3:3 meo6w6 6meow4 4m4e7o7w
16:34 Calinou PenguinDad, oh, Aww is notorious for starting random GitHub repositories then doing nothing at them
16:34 Calinou it's just a trademark violation though :o
16:34 Krock !rainbow ,ho Wwa si suoiroton rof gnitrats modnar BuHtig seirotisoper neht gniod gnihton ta meht
16:34 MinetestBot 4,4h4o7 7W7w8a8 8s3i3 3suoi6r6o6ton 4r4o4f7 7g7n8i8t8r3a3t3s mo6d6n6ar B4u4H4t7i7g7 8s8e8i3r3o3tiso6p6e6r ne4h4t4 7g7n7i8o8d8 3g3n3ihto6n6 6ta m4e4h4t
16:36 jp I will do a mods list, VanessaE.
16:38 VanessaE jp:  ok
16:39 khonkhortisan I see how annoying reversed text is to other people, now that I see how annoying reversed words are to me
16:40 khonkhortisan !em pots t'nseod taht tuB
16:41 jp I'm wondering, VanessaE...
16:41 jp https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6706
16:41 Calinou “But that doesn't stop me!”
16:41 jp Two days after, you done the same thing : https://github.com/VanessaE/plasmascreen
16:41 jp Same mod or ... ?
16:42 VanessaE jp: a fork thereof.  so I could add the textures shown in the screenshot of the forum post.
16:42 jp Ah, ok.
17:03 xnrand Jul18[16:24:00] <PenguinDad> best commit ever :D https://github.com/xnrand/Awwbuntu/commit/ccb749d9250286ee8d4b158ca2c4a45f86826af0
17:04 UukGoblin can a big horny monster that shoots blue~ish balls at me make me die in a way that doesn't drop the death box?
17:04 UukGoblin cause I can't find it :-(
17:04 VanessaE "big horny monster" ??
17:04 VanessaE O_o
17:05 VanessaE with blue balls yet?
17:05 UukGoblin I meant
17:05 VanessaE dude, that sounds SO wrong
17:05 UukGoblin with horns ;-)
17:05 UukGoblin what were you thinking! :->
17:05 PenguinDad UukGoblin: probably
17:05 sfan5 o
17:05 sfan5 an xnrand
17:05 * sfan5 meows at xnrand
17:05 UukGoblin PenguinDad, damn.
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17:07 PenguinDad rofl
17:07 xnrand sfan5: don't
17:07 sfan5 no meows?
17:07 xnrand PenguinDad: definitely the best commit ever indeed
17:07 xnrand sfan5: no meows please
17:07 * sfan5 licks xnrand
17:07 xnrand ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:07 sfan5 oh god your arm
17:07 sfan5 it's a yen sign again
17:08 sfan5 seriously
17:08 xnrand this is a yen sign: ¥
17:08 sfan5 why is this broken in every version of xchat/hexchat
17:08 xnrand what operating system are you running that on?
17:08 sfan5 arch
17:08 xnrand in that case i blame arch#
17:08 sfan5 happens on ubuntu too
17:09 xnrand i blame ubuntu too
17:09 sfan5 xnrand: https://mediacru.sh/Gyt3StblyvA7
17:10 xnrand ¯\_ <- yen sign?
17:10 sfan5 no
17:10 sfan5 only seems to happen if you paste the whole thing
17:10 xnrand ¯\_(oo)_/¯ <- now?
17:10 VanessaE sfan5: works fine for me
17:10 sfan5 no
17:10 xnrand ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <- now?
17:10 VanessaE (and this is xchat)
17:10 Krock \o/ works
17:10 sfan5 xnrand: yes
17:11 PenguinDad doesn't happen in weechat
17:11 xnrand sfan5: probably your font rendering library then
17:11 sfan5 hm
17:11 sfan5 why would freetype be broken..
17:12 xnrand because of arch
17:15 Exio archlinux and ubuntu user problems
17:16 * sfan5 meows at Exio
17:16 Exio \o/
17:16 Jordach sfan5, stop using a shit client to use IRC with
17:16 Exio that too
17:16 Jordach Quassel isn't bad :P
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17:17 PenguinDad weechat isn't bad either
17:18 Exio weechat > quassel
17:18 sfan5 ^
17:18 VanessaE bleh, I'll stick to xchat, and that's after giving quassel a fair run.
17:18 Jordach terminals are old tech
17:18 sfan5 but I don't want to use a console client
17:19 sfan5 VanessaE: hexchat
17:19 Exio weechat is powa
17:19 VanessaE sfan5: same difference
17:20 PenguinDad Jordach: computers are old tech :P
17:20 Exio a terminal isn't old tech
17:21 Exio it is just a powerful tech that still works
17:21 sfan5 ^
17:21 PenguinDad ↑
17:21 sfan5 try using some advanced ffmpeg setting from a GUI
17:22 Exio GUI is like OOP
17:22 Exio all the people loves it, all the people abuses it, yet we all know it just random crap around the REAL work!
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17:32 * Krock noticed his mod: bitch|ange
17:33 PenguinDad Krock: you need bitchanger :P
17:34 Calinou freeminer generates stuff without grass, lol
17:34 Calinou dirt land
17:36 Exio how could i implement IO without making my language non-pure
17:36 Exio and without implementing anything like monads
17:36 Krock Calinou, ugly terrain then
17:39 jp VanessaE : http://pastebin.com/qhet9Fck
17:40 VanessaE jp: ok, I'll review those shortly, except I can tell you the nightclub mod is out.  incompatible license.
17:41 jp Ok ! :)
17:42 jp Incompatible license ?!  Really an issue ?
17:42 VanessaE yeah
17:43 VanessaE that one is GPL but homedecor is LGPL
17:43 VanessaE so I'd have to relicense the whole project.
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17:44 paramat Calinou, would you like me to explain 'mgv6_freq_desert/beach'?
17:44 jp You just have to slighty modify the items and that's all. License broken.
17:44 VanessaE GPL doesn't work that way, jp.
17:45 * PenguinDad prefers permissive licenses
17:46 Calinou paramat, yes
17:46 VanessaE as do I; homedecor is only LGPL because it uses bits of code here and there that originally came from minetest_game
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17:48 paramat those are perlin noise thresholds, noise varies roughly between -1.5 and 1.5, when it is larger than the threshold, you get desert/beach. 0.45 results in 1/3 land area being desert. for rare deserts try freq = 1.0. for lots of beaches try freq = -1.0
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17:49 Calinou OK thanks
17:50 paramat freq = 1.0 will result in small and rare deserts, for large rare deserts you will need to increase the 'spread' value of 'mgv6_np_biome = 0, 1, (250, 250, 250), 9130, 3, 0.50'. spread is the (250,250,250)
17:52 paramat for example double or triple the spread of deserts if they are rare. the spread is the rough distance between deserts
17:52 paramat ... but also affects their size
17:52 VanessaE ok I'm gonna go lie down for a bit, jp we'll talk more about those mods.  some I already have to say no to because of licenses (trash can, night club, sweet foods), or don't see much reason for them (floors, flags).  the others we'll talk about.
17:52 VanessaE bbl
17:53 UukGoblin will I find marble and granite in deep underground stone mines?
17:53 paramat so yes 'frequency' is a misleading word to use
17:53 Calinou tweaking around… also disabling biomeblend
17:53 UukGoblin later VanessaE ;-)
17:54 UukGoblin I see marble/granite have the "sheet" ore type, not sure how that works
17:54 UukGoblin never seen one
17:55 PenguinDad yay no biomeblend
17:55 jp Vanessa : about the licenses, are they really officially declared to CC ? Probably careless mistakes from authors...
17:56 paramat 'spread' is actually the largest characteristic scale of the perlin noise pattern
17:57 UukGoblin paramat, yeah, but when I used this new generator... Travel ... Time... whatsitcalled
17:57 UukGoblin did I use perlin then?
17:57 UukGoblin will sheet work with that?
17:57 paramat sheet confuses even me
17:59 UukGoblin on a side note... I think something's broken now. When I drop (Q) a cobblestone block, it drops on the floor, rotates a couple degrees and almost instantly vanishes
18:00 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815550/
18:00 Calinou this is mapgen settings
18:00 Calinou PenguinDad, maybe test a bit and tell me what you think, if you have time
18:00 UukGoblin I'm getting loads of those "Trying to store id=8293 statically but block (-6, 0, 18) already contains 130 objects. Forcing delete."
18:00 Calinou to me, a mapped view of the world looks fairly right
18:00 Calinou deserts are rare, because they annoy people more than they help them
18:00 UukGoblin But I'm quite far from that block I think (currently 90, -200, 363)
18:00 Krock UukGoblin, don't drop so much items then
18:00 Calinou beaches are common because they're useful
18:00 Krock that are mapblocks
18:01 UukGoblin Krock, I only dropped one
18:01 Krock UukGoblin, well then, there are too much objects
18:02 UukGoblin hmm, OTOH, that lump of clay that dropped when my inv was full is still there
18:02 UukGoblin Krock, I'm suspecting mobf maybe?
18:02 UukGoblin It tends to create a lot of those slimes
18:03 UukGoblin (although I can't see any in the cave I'm at)
18:04 * paramat looks
18:05 paramat noise values are always within -2.0 to 2.0, so if for example you wanted no deserts use freq = 2.0, for beaches everywhere use -2.0
18:07 UukGoblin \o/ found marble
18:08 UukGoblin there's a lot of it here
18:16 PenguinDad Calinou: these settings are better but beaches are still a rarity
18:17 Calinou they're a Rarity :p
18:17 Calinou PenguinDad, when walking around, they look common enough to me
18:17 Calinou they shouldn't be everywhere either
18:17 Calinou there should remain a bunch of “dirt beaches”
18:18 Calinou amazing cave entrance!!
18:18 Calinou seed “same” without quotes
18:18 Calinou 7295,28,8188
18:19 Calinou PenguinDad, try that with Carbone preferably
18:19 UukGoblin hmm, my cobblestone cubes are back :-O
18:19 UukGoblin where they disappeared
18:19 UukGoblin I left the area for a bit and came back, same thing happened with that gravel I described yesterday...
18:20 UukGoblin something, somewhere, is buggy. :-]
18:24 PenguinDad that cave entrance would have looke better without the snow
18:27 Calinou snow is generated based on height
18:33 * Jordach creates a brand new set of grass textures
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18:51 nman3600 Krock!
18:53 Krock nman3600!
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18:53 PenguinDad Krock!
18:53 Krock PenguinDad!
18:53 Krock troller!
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19:03 Jordach TIL i can actually texture very wellhttps://cdn.mediacru.sh/0VdjqHtD_wIA.png
19:03 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/0VdjqHtD_wIA.png *
19:03 blaise is mobf abandonware ?
19:04 Calinou crapware*
19:04 Jordach blaise, no
19:04 Jordach sapier develops it
19:05 blaise hrmm..
19:05 Calinou Jordach, meh
19:05 Calinou a bit too green
19:05 Jordach Calinou, still looks better than old MTG
19:06 blaise what about firestone?
19:06 blaise https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4265
19:07 blaise looks like it hasn't been touched in quite a while
19:07 blaise which is  a shame, I like firestone
19:08 PenguinDad this is not better than the old mtg texture
19:09 Calinou looks like GIMP noise filter and nothing else used
19:09 Jordach Calinou, Tilable Blur set to 1p
19:09 Jordach 1px*
19:09 Jordach and then modifying the levels + layer mode overlay
19:10 Jordach (it can't be +-0.3 from grey)
19:10 blaise wtf, when I tried to git clone https://github.com/bas080/fires
19:10 blaise it asked me for user/passwd
19:10 blaise ?!
19:10 Calinou did you git clone https, or ssh, or git?
19:10 Calinou I have 404
19:10 blaise just "git clone https://github.com/bas080/fires"
19:10 Jordach blaise, 404
19:11 blaise hrmm
19:11 blaise it's not flintstone, it's firestone
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19:18 PenguinDad My bed is just a little bit broken https://cdn.mediacru.sh/yNZ0HTXdpwCx.png
19:20 jp Nice HUD.
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19:30 rubenwardy Made a web crawler in python. It processes two pages a second, extracting links and keywords.
19:30 Krock speed..wow
19:30 rubenwardy yeah, IKR
19:30 rubenwardy It is single threaded
19:31 rubenwardy Ideally it would process the current page while waiting for the next page to download.
19:31 rubenwardy Currently it has processed 3000 pages, with 1300 pages in the queue.
19:32 rubenwardy Been running for over an hour XD
19:33 Exio why not start "X" threads for the requests, like, 4-5 at the same time, while each thread has a queue of 4 pages, when of them dies, start a new one and always keep X threads running
19:33 Krock 3000 / 2 = you've been waiting 1500s
19:33 Exio green threads!
19:33 Krock !c 1500.0 / 60 / 60
19:33 MinetestBot 0.4166666666666667
19:33 Krock 0.4 hours
19:35 rubenwardy Because threads are complicated. They would need to share a list of done pages, so they don't readd it to the queue.
19:35 Exio ?
19:35 rubenwardy I didn't even know you can do threads in python
19:36 * Krock used threads multiple times in C#
19:36 Krock mostly, with a short to-do-list in for of a string or struct-array
19:36 Krock +m
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19:38 * sfan5 meows at rubenwardy
19:39 * Krock likes plantlike torches
19:39 sfan5 rubenwardy: from thread import start_new_thread, allocate_lock
19:39 sfan5 rubenwardy: thats all you need
19:39 sfan5 (probably)
19:39 rubenwardy will research
19:39 rubenwardy The crawler saves its progress, so I can easily resume with threaded version
19:40 Krock rubenwardy, does your bots work have anything profitable for you (or even us)?
19:40 rubenwardy Not really
19:41 rubenwardy Just a test of parsing web pages
19:42 sfan5 rubenwardy: are you using regexes?
19:42 rubenwardy No, 'beautiful soup'
19:43 sfan5 good
19:44 Krock catsoup!
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19:52 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Rename the randomized //set to //mix, style update, document changes. https:/ 2014-07-18T15:51:09-04:00 http://git.io/uGumAw
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20:09 DrewWin7 hiii :3
20:09 DrewWin7 wait wat
20:09 LemonLake that's betta
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20:10 LemonLake quiet? :(
20:10 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix //mix and improve normalize_nodename. https:/ 2014-07-18T16:09:57-04:00 http://git.io/xnuzJw
20:12 PenguinDad hey LemonLake
20:13 LemonLake PenguinDad: hoiii :3
20:13 kaeza VanessaE, (late as usual) go ahead :P
20:13 Krock hiii :3
20:13 Krock wait wat
20:14 * PenguinDad meows at Krock
20:14 LemonLake hexchat is quite interesting
20:14 LemonLake i wonder if it expires like xchat does
20:14 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
20:14 sfan5 LemonLake: wat, hexchat is completly free (as in beer & speech)
20:14 * LemonLake meows at sfan5
20:15 LemonLake sfan5: das good
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20:17 LemonLake ニャー
20:17 LemonLake okay, it works
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20:20 blaise !up midnightsystems.net
20:20 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (216ms)
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20:46 UukGoblin aand it happened
20:46 UukGoblin my cart's disappeared too, as soon as I placed it on the rail
20:48 UukGoblin went away, came back, and fortunately it's back on the rails
20:48 UukGoblin funny
20:49 UukGoblin when *I* was inside the cart... heh, blackscreen.
20:49 UukGoblin I'm in neverwhere
20:49 UukGoblin (though my inventory works)
20:54 FreeFull I don't think the cart mod ever worked too well
20:54 FreeFull Make sure you don't have an old version
20:55 us`0gb It's too hacky still. Once the API can handle carts without hacky code, they'll probably be added to minetest_game.
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20:59 sfan5 LOLWTF
20:59 us`0gb Hmm?
20:59 sfan5 I just got banned from /dev/open_usa2 (Tesseract server) because I was too good
20:59 us`0gb How could you? You should have been trolling people.
20:59 telek What's Tesseract, next gen Cube engine?
20:59 sfan5 http://tesseract.gg
21:00 sfan5 Badsantagaming claimed master
21:00 sfan5 server network error, disconnecting (kicked/banned) ...
21:00 sfan5 :(
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21:01 telek sfan5: *points at page* 3rd gen Cube engine.
21:02 Exio http://dpaste.com/3WBSVW0
21:02 telek Oh my bad, just a fork of 2nd gen :)
21:03 sfan5 telek: I want someone to play against, how about you?
21:03 Exio i'll play! i'll just start tesseract in my laptop
21:04 sfan5 Exio: "#1 Tessaract Server by GSHost.de"
21:04 sfan5 that one
21:04 Exio i thought you knew my laptop was a netbook
21:04 Exio with an intel atom and a GPU that can't handle tetris without lagging
21:04 sfan5 you can set the graphics to low
21:04 telek sfan5: Sorry, I quit playing FPSes years ago. My video card selection is not very tolerant of FPS demands.
21:04 Exio super hexagon lags, in a window
21:04 sfan5 :(
21:04 sfan5 :o
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21:05 Exio and minecraft is at <10FPS at lowest settings, in window mode
21:05 telek sfan5: Could be worse. Tried running flightgear lately? :D
21:05 sfan5 no
21:06 telek I tried it with a GT630 (The new model one that's 384 SPs and 2 computer units, but only 64 bit DDR3) While it depends on the plane, it gets like 5 fps best case with all detail levels set to below 100 meters :D
21:07 Exio i have a GT610!
21:07 sfan5 Exio: how do you play minetest on a device that shitty?
21:07 telek Exio: Ouch, poor guy
21:07 Exio sfan5, i don't
21:07 * sfan5 GT 520M
21:07 sfan5 :o
21:07 Exio sfan5, my FX's harddisk is dead
21:07 sfan5 Jordach: ping?
21:07 Exio => i'm desktop-less
21:07 telek sfan5: Minetest at least as of 0.4.4 or so will run on a Radeon 9800
21:07 Jordach sfan5, pong
21:08 sfan5 Jordach: http://tesseract.gg want to play?
21:08 Jordach no
21:08 telek Modding it will take some of that away, but as long as you only view about 30 units, it'll hover at 20-30 fps.
21:08 sfan5 Jordach: :c
21:09 Exio hmmmm, a L(abelled)BNF of the language http://dpaste.com/25S2ZQF
21:10 hmmmm that's a really small language
21:10 hmmmm oh so this is your own
21:10 Exio the whole interpreter is about 150 lines in haskell
21:11 hmmmm is there like a yacc for haskell or something?
21:11 Exio i could remove 80-100 lines just by removing the "helper" functions
21:11 Exio hmmmm, there are, but i'm using BNFC (which uses Alex and Happy)
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21:12 Exio http://bnfc.digitalgrammars.com/ ; http://www.haskell.org/alex/ ; http://www.haskell.org/happy/
21:13 Exio Krock, brainfuck isn't functional!
21:13 Krock it is!
21:14 sfan5 Exio: theres a program to calculate primes in bfuck, that makes it functional
21:14 Exio uh?
21:14 sfan5 http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/bf-source/prog/PRIME.BF
21:15 Exio my definition of functional is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_programming
21:15 Exio no mutation, just shadowing
21:17 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=148819#p148819
21:17 Jordach oh, and there's another thing broken in minetest
21:17 sfan5 i dont like this mod because then everyone with ban knows so much about you
21:17 sfan5 wat
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21:17 Krock sfan5, it doesn't show up the IP :P
21:18 Krock oh. saw the comment
21:18 * Krock slaps himself
21:22 * Sokomine looks around
21:22 * Sokomine is in need of a native speaker in order to get a name generator for minetest villages
21:23 WindHero lol
21:27 * sfan5 gives Jordach to Sokomine
21:27 Krock openttd has a very nice name generation </(1/2) offtopic>
21:27 LemonLake there were messages
21:27 LemonLake this concerns me
21:28 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
21:30 Exio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaprogramming
21:30 Exio macros in haskell that take MUPL code and generate MUPL code!
21:30 sfan5 :o
21:30 * sfan5 goes to sleep
21:30 * Sokomine takes jordach and runs away before he has a chance to escape
21:30 Jordach tl;dr i'm not your date
21:31 Sokomine no, but that of mapgen *eg*
21:35 LemonLake this pc case drives me up walls
21:36 LemonLake it has some weird fan system, and the extra fanblade on the detachable front is offcenter
21:36 LemonLake thus, it makes a horrible ticking sound
21:37 Jordach TICK TICK TICK TICK BOOM!
21:38 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
21:38 WindHero so sfan5 meows in his sleep....?
21:40 WindHero Sokomine: try using Latin-derived names for places
21:42 WindHero LemonLake: I have a tower case that has 3 non-removeable fans, and it'd quite loud.  I can hear it all the way downstairs and around a corner
21:45 Sokomine windhero: hmm. i don't think latin names are suitable for villages....at least not for the medieval ones
21:45 WindHero I suppose you have a point there
21:46 WindHero German roots then?
21:46 WindHero mixed with French
21:48 WindHero bah, don't mind me
21:49 WindHero Latin and Japanese arent' suited for this...
21:49 LemonLake WindHero: ditto
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21:51 Sokomine german would be fitting for the medieval villages, but...most people won't be able to understand them
21:52 telek Sokomine: Probably depends on the region and the Era.
21:52 telek Why not just use gibberish like DF does?
21:53 WindHero I might actually use schematics for the new biome in SkyLands I'm making :o
21:55 telek WindHero: Schematics?
21:55 WindHero Because I see no reason to procedurally generate columns or Parthenons
21:55 WindHero Yes, schematics
21:55 WindHero database files that contain positions of certain nodes to be easily imported into the MT world
21:55 WindHero you can easily create them with WorldEdit
21:56 telek WindHero: Thought so, just wasn't sure what usage of schematics you were actually implying :)
21:58 WindHero yup
21:59 WindHero Can't help but think I'll have to redo some textures though...
21:59 telek Why?
22:00 WindHero I just don't like them
22:00 WindHero particularly my quartz texture
22:00 WindHero idk...
22:01 WindHero I'll just wait and see what others think first. "An artist is never satisfied with his work."
22:01 telek If they bug ya aesthetically then yeah it's probably worth redoing. But the problem with redoing stuff is your next product might not turn out as an acceptable replacement for the previous :)
22:02 WindHero So true :P
22:05 WindHero After this, I might try making a nodebox for a Dungeon Master statue :D
22:05 * Jordach whistles at WindHero
22:05 WindHero 'ello
22:05 WindHero Saw your fan node... niiiiiiiice
22:06 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/0VdjqHtD_wIA.png
22:07 Jordach i accidentially made default_dirt.png better :P
22:08 LemonLake fan node?
22:08 Jordach WindHero, i should be over post 4000, but why haven't i :P
22:09 Jordach WindHero, you must be a fan :D
22:10 LemonLake Jordach: may i see fan node pls tx
22:10 Jordach LemonLake, post your videos
22:11 LemonLake videos?
22:11 Jordach under general
22:11 LemonLake ah
22:11 WindHero gtg, lunch
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22:11 LemonLake wtf jordach
22:11 UukGoblin FreeFull, yeah, the problem is with too many objects
22:11 WindHero Jordach: because you're procrastinating, lol
22:11 LemonLake why do you always have to make really good nodes
22:12 UukGoblin I don't think there are too many, for a 16x16x16 map block ~50~ish objects is nothing
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22:12 Jordach LemonLake, i can probably replace the tanks with specialised versions
22:12 Jordach using the same YAHN setup
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22:14 LemonLake hm..
22:14 Jordach it's in homedecor
22:14 LemonLake minimal js files aren't supposed to be readable, are they?
22:15 UukGoblin so can you help me out, we can try to fix this maybe? I have two main issues: 1. What happens with sand/gravel/papyrus when you dig it at the bottom and there are blocks on top? Currently some of them sometimes seem to disappear; and 2. What happens when there are too many objects? I drop a cube of cobblestone, it disappears, I leave the area, I come back, it reappears again - why?
22:15 UukGoblin (same goes if I drop a cart instead of the cube of cobblestone, which is perhaps why the bug triggers)
22:21 LemonLake okay, im happy with this layout so far
22:21 LemonLake but it definitely needs changes
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22:58 WindHero did something happen in Minetest or pipeworks to make that Filters no longer remove items from regular furnaces?
22:59 LemonLake pandas
22:59 LemonLake pandas happened
22:59 WindHero rofl wut?
22:59 WindHero Surely you must mean shifus
23:00 LemonLake し布施
23:00 LemonLake according to microsoft that's shifus
23:00 LemonLake +e
23:00 WindHero Romanji, plz
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23:01 LemonLake shifuse
23:01 WindHero arigato
23:01 LemonLake +u
23:01 WindHero acku
23:01 LemonLake why learn the language if you can't read it?
23:01 WindHero I've been learning by listening :P
23:01 LemonLake no wonder you can't spell arigatou :P
23:02 WindHero Probably gonna take it in college to get it right.... :P
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23:24 Jordach WindHero, natural stone https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GHdNTT6apfte.png
23:25 WindHero looks pretty good!
23:25 WindHero how are you getting it to alternate the rotation of the texture like that?
23:25 LemonLake looks like stone
23:25 LemonLake ^
23:25 Jordach WindHero, hax
23:25 WindHero your dirt was good too, btw
23:25 Jordach actually you can use any texture
23:25 WindHero hax o_o
23:25 WindHero hakusu
23:26 Jordach and i have to update my goddamn mobs folder again ;3
23:26 WindHero >.<
23:26 WindHero ...
23:28 Jordach at least it breaks the annoyance of the tiling textures from MTG
23:28 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YHBxXWcY-N5-.png
23:28 WindHero roflol
23:29 WindHero Unless there's lava nearby, I seriously doubt you need a fan down there
23:30 Jordach i had one in my inv :P
23:30 Jordach WindHero, grass even does it
23:30 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/EmoaN7sMg2_x.png
23:31 Jordach (it does beat looking into the distance and seeing the same old looping texture)
23:31 Jordach ((i need to reseed math.random from dtime or epoch or something)
23:31 WindHero yeah, did catch a few pairs there
23:32 Jordach but over a large distance it does break up
23:33 Jordach close up - noticable - and vice versa
23:35 UukGoblin scramble it with some Perlin noise too ;-)
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23:36 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6Lff6Qczmssd.png
23:36 Jordach ^ i mean it :3
23:37 LemonLake jesus
23:37 FreeFull Looks neat though
23:37 Jordach you can see the difference
23:37 FreeFull Jordach: What are those colums in the distance?
23:37 Jordach (and on large builds with loads of stone, that'll help)
23:37 Jordach FreeFull, dead oak trees
23:37 FreeFull I see
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23:38 Jordach (think forest in a really really really really hot place)
23:39 Jordach however, there's ~3 new biomes, which over time make the game harder and harder if you don't do shit about them
23:40 UukGoblin you need The Wall
23:40 UukGoblin to separate the North from the other 7 kingdoms
23:40 * UukGoblin murmurs Game of Thrones intro song
23:41 Jordach LemonLake, you may enjoy this biome
23:41 LemonLake why
23:41 Jordach we're going to need that solution gun again
23:41 LemonLake clentaminator?
23:42 Jordach and it has randomized heat / humidity
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23:52 VanessaE kaeza: computers mod imported into homedecor.
23:53 VanessaE bas080: inbox imported.
23:53 VanessaE (also plasmascreen and lrfurn, but their authors aren't here so they'll have to read the forum :P )

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