IRC log for #minetest, 2014-04-27

Time	Nick	Message
00:01	jordan4ibanez	Portals http://youtu.be/wOERIJjR3D8 :D
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02:04	blaise	I want chicken
02:05	blaise	I want liver
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02:12	Megaf	None of my 3 servers are showing up at server.minetest.net
02:13	Megaf	how can I know why that's happening?
02:14	blaise	look at your config
02:15	Megaf	It was showing up, then it stopped showing
02:15	Megaf	Do I need to open a new port, TCP thing or something?
02:15	blaise	do you have some kind of psychadelic firewall or something? crazy router?
02:15	Megaf	nope
02:18	blaise	check your config
02:20	blaise	#server_announce = 0
02:20	blaise	that needs to be set to = 1
02:20	blaise	and uncommented
02:20	blaise	in your minetest.conf
02:21	blaise	probably in ~/.minetest/
02:23	blaise	Megaf: did you find it?
02:28	crazyR	wow leveldb migration is going to take for ever 2.00586% complete lol
02:28	Megaf	blaise: yep, that was always set to 1 on all my servers
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03:10	asl	is it possible to change the font color?
03:13	Megaf	asl: yep
03:13	Megaf	asl: just look at minetest.conf.example
03:13	Megaf	Guest89739: your nick
03:14	asl	there nothing in the minetest.conf.example on font color, only console, fog and cross-hair
03:17	kahrl	you can change your monitor settings to change white to anything
03:17	asl	that wouldn't help, i want to change the font color cause i can't see the number for item that is white
03:18	VanessaE_	asl: turn on font shadowing.
03:18	VanessaE_	font_shadow = 2
03:18	VanessaE_	font_shadow_alpha = 255
03:19	VanessaE_	as long as you're not still using a bitmapped font, that should fix it.
03:23	VanessaE_	as for the crosshair, that's a HUD element and is supplied as a texture (so the color thereof is controlled as part of the image file)
03:23	VanessaE_	fog is hard-coded to more or less approximate dawn and dusk
03:25	asl	the font_shadow doesn't do anything, i think it cause my build doesn't have FREETYPE, `USE_FREETYPE=0` is shown in minetest --version
03:28	VanessaE_	indeed.
03:28	VanessaE_	you'll want that.
03:28	VanessaE_	in which case, either enable it in your build, or use a bitmapped font such as this one, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4436
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04:00	crazyR	can anyone help me with this, just finished a migration and now when a player logs onto the server i get this error: https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/0cf277efd79511430f40
04:00	crazyR	file mods/default/player.lua:142
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04:38	crazyR	Krock you here?
04:38	crazyR	gues not lol
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04:46	blaise	so, how
04:46	blaise	how's the android version of minetest comming along?
04:47	VanessaE_	Sapier's build of Minetest, http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downloads/Minetest-debug.apk
04:48	VanessaE_	it works reasonably well
04:48	VanessaE_	not sure how recent that build is though
04:48	VanessaE_	but it's not old
04:49	blaise	sweet
04:49	blaise	:)
04:51	VanessaE_	bbl
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05:18	blaise	it totally crashed my phone about 10 minutes after it force closed..
05:19	blaise	and the images of the items in the quick select bar are fubar
05:19	blaise	some are ok.. the pik is fine
05:19	blaise	that's about it..
05:19	blaise	ps, I was using a motorola atrix HD
05:20	blaise	I'll test it on my Motorola atrix 4G later
05:20	RealBadAngel	blaise, youre talkin bout android port?
05:20	blaise	yes
05:20	RealBadAngel	please report that in forums
05:20	blaise	aparently Sapier built one
05:20	RealBadAngel	android port is experimental
05:21	blaise	yes
05:21	RealBadAngel	and surely have many issues
05:21	blaise	indeed
05:21	blaise	it preformed well before it force closed though.. :)
05:21	RealBadAngel	but reporting them in irc wont help that much
05:22	RealBadAngel	at least when maintainer is offline ;)
05:22	blaise	and aside from the quick select boxes and the inventory, the rest of the graphics were beautiful! :)
05:22	blaise	I'll catch up with Sapier later..
05:22	blaise	just my immediate observations and the devices I will be using
05:23	RealBadAngel	you can report issues on github:
05:23	RealBadAngel	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?direction=desc&labels=bug&page=1&sort=created&state=open
05:23	blaise	ShadowBot: remind sapier to ask me about my experience with his android build of minetest
05:24	RealBadAngel	or in forums:
05:24	RealBadAngel	https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=6
05:24	blaise	XD
05:24	blaise	no bugzilla?
05:24	blaise	bugs.minetest.net ?
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05:30	RealBadAngel	hehe, no.
05:30	RealBadAngel	no zillas
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05:39	* blaise	sobs profusely
05:39	blaise	so much for the art of proper bug reportery and backtracery
05:40	asl	that's what github is for
05:42	blaise	if I try to upload a terrabyte backtrace to githump It'll flail about like a salmon swiming in the air trying to get up stream
05:45	crazyR	!up 37.187.177.180 31000
05:45	MinetestBot	37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
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06:50	MinetestBot	GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Client: Don't crash if trying to draw too many items from inventory in HUD 8d31534710 2014-04-27T09:49:19+03:00 http://git.io/ygzkXQ
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08:16	crazyR	!up 37.187.177.180 31000
08:16	MinetestBot	37.187.177.180:31000 is up (10ms)
08:16	Krock	~down 37.187.177.180 31000
08:18	PenguinDad	!top
08:18	PenguinDad	MinetestBot!
08:18	MinetestBot	PenguinDad!
08:20	crazyR	?
08:21	PenguinDad	MinetestBot needs !top
08:21	crazyR	whats that do --> ~down 37.187.177.180 31000
08:23	Krock	it shutdowns your server
08:23	crazyR	well sorry to let you down lol
08:24	crazyR	or do you mean inthe bot?
08:28	Krock	37.187.177.180:31000 seems to be down.
08:29	crazyR	whast the ubuntu/debian, dev repo
08:30	crazyR	what dya mean krock
08:30	Krock	I love pancakes
08:32	CraigyDavi	Hmmm can you not display text from a file in a HUD element?
08:33	crazyR	craig: create a config.lua file, and put the text in a table :) or just avariable
08:33	crazyR	*variable
08:34	CraigyDavi	Well should it not work when getting it from a file in the worldpath?
08:35	CraigyDavi	Here's the code: http://pastie.org/private/qa26bsivxhku0bil2kvhug
08:36	crazyR	text = "..welcomecontent.." should be text = welcomecontent
08:36	crazyR	i think
08:36	CraigyDavi	Ok ill try
08:37	CraigyDavi	Yey it works. But it does not start a new line...
08:37	crazyR	you maybe need to do some pregreplaceing, or something
08:38	CraigyDavi	ok
08:41	sfan5	PenguinDad: what should !top do?
08:41	PenguinDad	it should show the server with the most players
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08:43	CraigyDavi	Well you just do:
08:43	CraigyDavi	!server most
08:43	MinetestBot	CraigyDavi: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server \| digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 \| Clients: 6/50, 43 \| Version: 0.4.9-dev \| ping: 0.095
08:43	CraigyDavi	That's not right...
08:43	PenguinDad	then make !top an alias :P
08:44	PenguinDad	!help
08:44	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
08:45	CraigyDavi	!server <20
08:45	MinetestBot	CraigyDavi: No results
08:45	PenguinDad	!server top
08:45	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: No results
08:45	CraigyDavi	!server <10
08:45	MinetestBot	CraigyDavi: No results
08:45	PenguinDad	:(
08:45	Calinou	hi
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08:45	PenguinDad	hello Calinou
08:46	PenguinDad	!server players:most
08:46	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: just test (6:30-21:30utc) \| 87.110.8.195 \| Clients: 31/53, 49 \| Version: 0.4.9 \| ping: 0.144
08:46	PenguinDad	!server players:=5
08:46	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: Krock's Ultimative Platform \| 85.1.67.73 \| Clients: 5/20, 26 \| Version: 0.4.9-dev20140425 \| ping: 0.032
08:47	Krock	already 5 players? nice
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08:48	Calinou	there's a large jungle, I have 24 FPS near it
08:49	PenguinDad	disable fancy trees then :p
08:51	sfan5	!server port:least
08:51	MinetestBot	sfan5: No results
08:51	sfan5	!server port:most
08:51	MinetestBot	sfan5: No results
08:51	Krock	there are mobs. I have 7 fps near it. disable fancy mobs then
08:51	sfan5	:/
08:51	Krock	:3
08:53	Calinou	lol Krock
08:53	celeron55	what the flying fuck man
08:53	celeron55	watershed is completely crazy
08:54	PenguinDad	lol I found a nano jungle with only 4 trees
08:54	celeron55	i have browsed the terrain made by this for a fair amount and decided i'd try making a fly-through video of this
08:54	celeron55	turns out this time it wants to create an infinitely long higher-than-clouds size mountain
08:55	Calinou	woah, occlusion culling got all glitchy
08:55	sfan5	https://gist.github.com/sfan5/9586533 and https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/lua_inputhandler could be useful
08:55	Calinou	I died with camera update off; I respawn, I enable camera update
08:55	Calinou	mapblocks flicker
08:56	Calinou	stopped happening after I wandered away from the spawn
08:56	Calinou	I'll see if this is reproducible
08:57	PenguinDad	Calinou: it's reproducible
08:57	Calinou	it is
08:57	celeron55	sfan5: nah, i can just run it slow enough so that it has time to generate stuff, but the input handler would be useful if it could read what is in the world
08:57	Calinou	is it reported already, PenguinDad?
08:57	celeron55	so that it could go higher and lower as needed
08:57	PenguinDad	celeron55: I don't think so
08:57	Calinou	also... I don't see myself in third person
08:58	PenguinDad	* Calinou
08:58	Calinou	but I do after wandering away from spawn
08:59	celeron55	sfan5: so... i'm probably better off by just hardcoding something
09:00	sfan5	that is probably the easiest way without trying to get the env api for lua into there
09:02	Calinou	reported
09:05	celeron55	also i don't want to generate player input but just directly set the position of the player, so it's even less useful
09:08	sfan5	but if you set the position there if no smooth transition
09:09	celeron55	smooth translation is easier to do by just using continuous averaging
09:15	CraigyDavi	Anyone know how I can use read fucntions to read a specific line in a file?
09:15	CraigyDavi	Or anyone know how to display multiple lines on HUD elements...if it makes it easier.
09:16	Krock	If I would be you, I'd look into the hunger mod codes
09:18	CraigyDavi	The one by kaeza or by BlockMen?
09:19	Krock	both?
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09:20	CraigyDavi	Hmm they don't have any text elements though.
09:27	Krock	areas mod has
09:27	PenguinDad	Landrush too
09:28	CraigyDavi	Yes, but I'm trying to use multiple text lines, those only use one line. So basicllay a paragraph of text on the HUD.
09:28	Krock	add 2 huds? and adjust the positions
09:28	Krock	ooh
09:28	Krock	a whole text
09:29	Krock	that doesn't matter, it begins a new line if the text is too long
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09:29	CraigyDavi	Really? I've tried that and it seems to not.
09:30	CraigyDavi	Do you know how to read a specific line from a file? I could then be able to do this using multiple text elements.
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09:34	reactor	Ehlo.
09:34	reactor	Why won't stone monster and dungeon master spawn?
09:34	reactor	Dirt and tree monsters spawn fine.
09:34	Calinou	reactor, they spawn underground in Carbone
09:34	Calinou	dungeon master is from -64 and below
09:34	Calinou	stone monster is any height below sea level
09:35	reactor	Ah, I see.
09:35	Calinou	both are fairly rare, but are powerful
09:35	Calinou	you'll meet rats quite often though :)
09:35	Calinou	I'll make some chart to explain mobs in Carbone
09:35	Calinou	they are heavily modified
09:37	reactor	I failed to understand max_height, that's why.
09:37	reactor	Now that I edited it, they should.
09:37	reactor	Thank you!
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09:39	twoelk	does anybody know how to have more than 11 games show up in the main menu?
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09:40	twoelk	like in some drop down list as when creating worlds
09:42	Calinou	http://0bin.net/paste/38cp8k3-VbGlUTWM#pI6cQoc0BvGq+iu+NaaY77eNCPDqmvAX4oWoDmKRB3A=
09:43	Calinou	or https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9033&p=137208#p137208
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09:47	reactor	woah
09:47	reactor	that's interesting, I'll try it
10:02	* Calinou	is uploading a video
10:09	Calinou	OpenArena is now tbe recommended application to open .webm files
10:09	Calinou	great...
10:09	Calinou	I wanted to select OpenShot
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10:54	markveidemanis	Hi
10:55	markveidemanis	I never really left
10:55	markveidemanis	I was just reincarnated through ZNC
10:55	markveidemanis	<3 ZNC and MinetestBot and ShadowBot
10:56	markveidemanis	Wanna play a game?
10:56	markveidemanis	Guess which
10:56	markveidemanis	Fucking I-Spy FTW
10:56	markveidemanis	Let's play I spy on an image
10:57	markveidemanis	http://i.imgur.com/1hhZEVW.png
10:58	markveidemanis	Are all facte here right? http://marktest.co.uk/2014/04/all-about-encryption/
10:58	markveidemanis	!title
10:58	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: All About Encryption \| Mark Test
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10:58	markveidemanis	The concept of password encryption is to irreversibly encrypt a password. Right?
10:59	Jordach	markveidemanis, one way encryption
10:59	markveidemanis	I think I have made a big mistake here http://marktest.co.uk/2014/04/all-about-encryption/
10:59	Jordach	you have to have the same settings twice; eg md5 -> sha512
10:59	markveidemanis	One way? Is Sha1 1 way?
10:59	Jordach	and then the identical salt if it's one way
11:00	markveidemanis	I lost you
11:00	Jordach	markveidemanis, afaik, Minetest even uses 1 way encryption
11:00	markveidemanis	Which hash though?
11:00	Jordach	that's something i don't know ;P
11:03	* markveidemanis	wrote a multithreaded brute-force thing in python
11:03	Jordach	anyone can write that
11:03	markveidemanis	But even with 64GB ram, I can't keep the list for a 5 digit password
11:03	Jordach	it just takes patience on waiting for it to track :P
11:03	Jordach	markveidemanis, discard old passwords and use the ASCII values in place
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11:05	Jordach	basically, if the password is older than say 3 attempts, remove from found lis
11:05	markveidemanis	I'm just making a database
11:05	markveidemanis	Writig to file
11:05	* markveidemanis	pastebins his shit
11:06	Jordach	ew
11:06	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9116965
11:06	markveidemanis	I need to only close every so often
11:06	markveidemanis	actually I want to keep a database
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11:07	markveidemanis	Copied
11:07	markveidemanis	and adjusted!
11:09	markveidemanis	Anyone know a free minetest server host?
11:10	* Jordach	tries to get an oil powered TBM for BFD
11:15	markveidemanis	I need a dns Host that supports rDNS
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11:31	Jordach	[PavelS], ello!
11:31	sfan5	http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/242fil/whats_the_biggest_incorrect_fact_youve_always/ch31k04?context=5
11:31	sfan5	meow
11:32	[PavelS]	Hello)
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11:33	Mikerhinos	hi
11:33	reactor	eh
11:34	reactor	Why doesn't the author of Firearms mod add more breakable nodes by default?
11:34	reactor	It's tiresome to have to add many nodes for popular mods.
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11:41	CraigyDavi	How does this server welcome screen look to everyone? http://i.imgur.com/qi4a4jC.png
11:43	reactor	CraigyDavi: non-uniform.
11:43	reactor	The text is unreadable.
11:43	reactor	Change background to black, maybe?
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11:45	CWz	is there an item decay mod?
11:45	markveidemanis	http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d72pu0r0d What the hell do I do now
11:45	Krock	"Minetest engine core main application detected a problem and must be closed." wooo
11:46	* Jordach	gets that too
11:46	reactor	Windows eh.
11:46	Krock	CWz, builtin_item
11:50	reactor	Why do players try Unicode nicks?
11:50	reactor	Are there servers that permit those?
11:52	sfan5	no
11:52	sfan5	unicode nicks are generally unsupported
11:52	sfan5	nick may only have [A-Za-z0-9_] chars IIRC
11:53	Krock	'-' included
11:54	CraigyDavi	reactor, Yep I'm working on a semi-transaprent background to go behind the text
11:54	CraigyDavi	Krock, I always get "Minetest core main application is not responding"
11:55	reactor	ah
11:55	reactor	CraigyDavi: well, still, white on blue doesn't make it readable.
11:55	Krock	CraigyDavi, me too but just for ~10s then the media fially loaded
11:55	reactor	It's better to change the bgto black.
11:55	Krock	*finally
11:55	reactor	1) you already have black picture; 2) white text on black bg always looks good
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11:55	CraigyDavi	Ok ill try to do that
11:56	CraigyDavi	Krock, do you get the error when running your server? I do, frequently.
11:56	Krock	CraigyDavi, running server? no just client
11:57	CraigyDavi	Oh I get it more when running server rather than on the client.
11:58	* Jordach	is still trying to fix broken code
12:04	CraigyDavi	Is there anywhere I can get an image which looks just like a formspec background?
12:04	Jordach	CraigyDavi, any image will do for a formspec bg
12:05	CraigyDavi	I mean, I want an image to be displayed as a background to this: http://i.imgur.com/qi4a4jC.png which is semi-transparanet and looks like a formspec background.
12:06	Jordach	make a 1920x1080 png image with 50% transparencuy
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12:07	CraigyDavi	Ok
12:08	Jordach	!c 99/3
12:08	MinetestBot	33
12:09	markveidemanis	!c 99//3
12:09	MinetestBot	33
12:09	markveidemanis	!c 1/3
12:09	MinetestBot	0
12:09	markveidemanis	!c 1*0.33
12:09	MinetestBot	0.33
12:12	Jordach	DanD is the most wasteful person i've ever seen
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12:12	KikaRz	Hello
12:12	CraigyDavi	hi KikaRz
12:12	KikaRz	Someone knows how can I change this ugly font from Minetest?
12:12	Jordach	any time the TBM runs out of an item, he sets the fuel gauge to 0, wasting the fuel
12:12	KikaRz	it stinks. :(
12:12	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'i' is not defined
12:12	MinetestBot	AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'i'
12:12	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'maths' is not defined
12:12	KikaRz	!c math.pi
12:12	MinetestBot	3.141592653589793
12:12	KikaRz	Thank you.
12:13	KikaRz	Now, could someone help me?
12:13	KikaRz	keyword: please?
12:13	CraigyDavi	What fonts do you have in your font folder?
12:13	KikaRz	Dunno, lol.
12:13	KikaRz	A second...
12:14	Jordach	LOL
12:14	Jordach	my oil powered tbm gives back the bucket of oil you feed it :D
12:14	KikaRz	DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf, fontdejavusansmono.png, fontlucida.png, liberationmono.ttf, liberationsans.ttf
12:14	Jordach	(the bucket, not with the oil in)
12:14	GhostDoge	!c math.e
12:14	MinetestBot	2.718281828459045
12:14	KikaRz	That are the fonts inside the folder.
12:16	KikaRz	CraigyDavi, I don't know the name of this font that my Minetest is currently running
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12:17	CraigyDavi	Hmmm can you take a screenshot?
12:17	CraigyDavi	Of the font in-game
12:17	KikaRz	ait
12:17	KikaRz	wait
12:17	KikaRz	And my Public Serverlist isn't appearing.
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12:18	KikaRz	Hmm... I think I need to get IMGUR
12:19	CraigyDavi	Can you send it again. I lost it
12:19	KikaRz	lel, i'll upload it to imgur
12:20	CraigyDavi	good idea
12:20	KikaRz	well, if my browser opens...
12:21	KikaRz	that's the worst job.
12:21	Jordach	!tell kaeza 3/2/1 (delete the un-neededones!) till good times :D
12:21	MinetestBot	Jordach: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around
12:21	KikaRz	!tell Jordach 3/2/1 test
12:21	MinetestBot	KikaRz: yeah, yeah
12:21	KikaRz	'Ã§'
12:23	KikaRz	CraigyDavi, as my Chromium broke up, i'll upload thru Iceweasel
12:23	CraigyDavi	Okay
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12:24	KikaRz	http://i.imgur.com/MKjLbLm.png
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12:25	KikaRz	yea
12:25	KikaRz	#! Crunchbang ftw
12:25	CraigyDavi	Looks bad.
12:26	CraigyDavi	I think you must have missed something upon compiling.
12:26	KikaRz	So, what to do related to this?
12:26	KikaRz	Well, what is needed to compile? I just used "One-Line Compile" from Calinou, as ever I do.
12:26	CraigyDavi	And your public server list does not work?
12:26	KikaRz	Nope.
12:27	KikaRz	"LuaJIT" is related to some features. It's not enabled, but I would like to get it
12:27	CraigyDavi	have you got libcurl?
12:27	KikaRz	How can I know?
12:27	KikaRz	apt-get install libcurl* ?
12:28	CraigyDavi	I don't use linux so idk. Umm where does it store all the libraries, bin folder?
12:28	KikaRz	'-'
12:28	CraigyDavi	If there's a libcurl file then its good.
12:29	KikaRz	john_minetest, could you help me?
12:29	KikaRz	(I never liked Linux)
12:30	KikaRz	Fonts are broken, missing libraries (LuaJit and ...), Server list not working.
12:30	KikaRz	Yep, Synaptic
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12:31	KikaRz	I've used "One-Line compile" from Calinou
12:31	KikaRz	DRUN_IN_PLACE will store mods, games, bins into the same folder?
12:31	KikaRz	if enabled
12:31	KikaRz	ok
12:32	KikaRz	could you disable me the Server?
12:32	KikaRz	it takes a lot to compile server, and I don't want it
12:33	KikaRz	yea, but I don't know what option
12:35	KikaRz	running...
12:35	KikaRz	so, what's the info you wnat?
12:35	KikaRz	*want
12:35	KikaRz	well, there are missing libraries
12:36	KikaRz	want to take a look on this "log" ?
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12:37	KikaRz	Opening browser.
12:38	CraigyDavi	*pastie.org
12:38	KikaRz	Chromium just opened up 19 times.
12:38	puhfa	lua question: is there a way to call lua functions registered by minetest.register_on_dignode in lua, when i only know the node position?
12:38	* Jordach	likes the quad-core AMD A10 :D
12:38	puhfa	i dont want to use node_dig
12:39	KikaRz	Jordach, i still love Pentium 4
12:40	CraigyDavi	I believe do, puhfa.
12:40	GhostDoge	I like my AMD Phenom II X6
12:40	CraigyDavi	*so
12:40	KikaRz	http://pastie.org/9117106
12:40	Jordach	and tf2 time :P
12:41	KikaRz	curl missing, luajit, pkgconfig, redis
12:41	GhostDoge	KikaRz: Redis is not needed
12:41	KikaRz	Whatever. Just appearing there.
12:41	sfan5	KikaRz: luajit and curl is not needed either
12:41	sfan5	and pkgconfig is not needed too
12:41	KikaRz	but I like those :c
12:42	KikaRz	My question: How?
12:42	KikaRz	What's redis for?
12:43	sfan5	http://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends
12:43	KikaRz	john_minetest, now I make "make install" ?
12:44	KikaRz	Well, font is still the same :(
12:45	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
12:45	Krock	sfan5, Dummy would be "Very good" in the "Compatibility with builds" ;)
12:45	KikaRz	Hello PilAdam
12:45	sfan5	N/A makes more sense
12:45	KikaRz	Hello PilzAdam*
12:45	* sfan5	meows at PilzAdam to welcome him
12:45	Krock	ok...if you think so
12:45	KikaRz	john_minetest, font is still the same and Server List not working either.
12:46	Krock	"Congratulations to: LuxAtheris (16)" uh congrats
12:47	* PilzAdam	meows at sfan5 to welcome his welcome
12:49	* GhostDoge	squawks at PilzAdam to welcome him
12:49	GhostDoge	*barks
12:49	* KikaRz	spanks at GhostDoge to welcome him
12:49	KikaRz	(idk, no ideas to /me)
12:50	* GhostDoge	/me's /me
12:50	puhfa	CraigyDavi: well, thats a relief
12:50	GhostDoge	D:
12:50	puhfa	now another question: how
12:51	KikaRz	Guys, one question: To update my minetest, I need to "git pull;make install" or i need to "git pull;cmake ....;make;sudo make install" ?
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12:52	GhostDoge	KikaRz: you should do a make clean too
12:52	KikaRz	D;
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12:52	KikaRz	but
12:52	KikaRz	that won't delete my cmake?
12:53	Krock	it ill delete your linux
12:53	Krock	*will
12:53	KikaRz	GhostDoge, just press the big red button.
12:53	GhostDoge	why should it delete cmake or even linux
12:53	KikaRz	so, tell me the string to update my minetest
12:53	KikaRz	git pull;
12:54	Krock	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=131778#p131778
12:55	GhostDoge	git pull && cmake . <options> && make clean && make -j<number of cores/threads>
12:55	GhostDoge	^ KikaRz
12:55	KikaRz	forget, that ; it's for my Counter-Strike 1.6 binds.
12:55	KikaRz	it's && on linux.
12:56	PilzAdam	you can use && or ;
12:56	KikaRz	sweet.
12:56	PilzAdam	the difference is that the second command doesn't run when the first fails when you use &&
12:56	GhostDoge	KikaRz: ; would work too but && makes sure that the process didn't crash
12:56	KikaRz	don't we need to make install?
12:57	PilzAdam	make install only when you have -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
12:57	KikaRz	ok, understood.
12:57	KikaRz	I've made make install all the time.
12:57	reactor	Is there a WE command to set facedir?
12:58	Krock	screwdriver ftw!
12:58	KikaRz	compiling...
12:58	KikaRz	i must save this command or i'll get f#!"&#
12:59	reactor	Krock: oh yeah, screwdriving a bloody thousand slabs is fun!
12:59	reactor	I'm tired of having to //stack manually.
13:01	KikaRz	I dislike totally to compile.
13:01	KikaRz	Is make me mad.
13:02	KikaRz	git pull && cmake . <options> && make clean && cd src && make -j<number of cores/threads>
13:02	KikaRz	i need to enter cd src to compile it?
13:02	KikaRz	*enter the folder "src"
13:03	reactor	*directory
13:03	KikaRz	**enter the directory "src"
13:03	sfan5	KikaRz: no
13:03	Krock	aÂ² + bÂ² = cÂ²
13:03	KikaRz	Uff.
13:03	KikaRz	That's the 2nd grade equation.
13:04	KikaRz	c1(2) + c2(2) =
13:04	KikaRz	oh pitagoras.
13:05	Krock	reactor, as far I know, it's not possible to set param2 in a voxelarea
13:05	Krock	pythagoras xD
13:05	KikaRz	pitÃ¡goras in Portugal, sorry.
13:05	PilzAdam	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1990
13:06	Krock	reactor -^
13:06	KikaRz	my computer looks like an airplane w
13:07	KikaRz	<Rhys> What is Minetest based on?
13:07	KikaRz	<onez> I think it's based on Doom isn't it?
13:08	* GhostDoge	slaps cross-network slaps onez
13:08	GhostDoge	-slaps
13:09	* sfan5	purrs at GhostDoge
13:09	KikaRz	yea, because fapping is different
13:10	reactor	?
13:10	reactor	So, WE can't affect the facedir?
13:11	reactor	How can it import schemes correctly then?
13:11	sfan5	reactor: it can
13:11	KikaRz	Oh no! I'm a murderer! I've killed Chromium!
13:13	KikaRz	Hey, someone's there?
13:14	KikaRz	it has?
13:14	KikaRz	let me try
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13:14	KikaRz	killall: unrecognized command
13:14	KikaRz	Oh wait, I'm at MS-DOIS
13:15	markveidemanis	How do i see my hostname on irc?
13:15	KikaRz	It's the latest version! As the old one just "bad command"
13:15	KikaRz	/whois markveidemanis
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13:15	markveidemanis	...
13:15	PenguinDad	/who markveidemanis
13:15	markveidemanis	Okay, how do I get rid of a cloak
13:15	KikaRz	you don't :)
13:16	PenguinDad	go to #freenode markveidemanis
13:16	markveidemanis	I have
13:16	KikaRz	I don't think they can disable it.
13:16	KikaRz	Once you get a cloak, you'll have it forever, I think.
13:16	KikaRz	I've read something like that anywhere.
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13:17	PilzAdam	markveidemanis, dont auth to services
13:17	GhostDoge	:D
13:17	markveidemanis	Well fuck
13:17	markveidemanis	can I just logoout?
13:18	KikaRz	lol
13:18	KikaRz	/msg NikcServ logout ?
13:18	KikaRz	/msg NickServ logout ?*
13:18	markveidemanis	Done that
13:19	markveidemanis	STILL GOT THE CLOAK
13:19	KikaRz	Just go to freenode.net
13:20	KikaRz	CaveJohnson, are you still there?
13:21	KikaRz	Now I only want you gone.
13:22	KikaRz	GhostDoge, 93% compiling. Last words till it is compiled.
13:24	KikaRz	markveidemanis, good luck with that 8)
13:29	KikaRz	fhat ones you need domainsr ta
13:29	KikaRz	*for that ones you need domains
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13:32	KikaRz	wow, so muych errors on vanessa's survival server.
13:33	KikaRz	194MB / 217MB Ram
13:33	KikaRz	421 / 443 MB SWAP
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13:36	GhostDoge	markveidemanis: without cloak your domain is 50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl
13:36		sylvieL joined #minetest
13:36	markveidemanis	Hmm
13:36	markveidemanis	screw it
13:41	reactor	sfan5: hmm?
13:41		sylvieL joined #minetest
13:42	KikaRz	Playing CS 2D...
13:43		john_minetest joined #minetest
13:45	sfan5	reactor: <reactor> So, WE can't affect the facedir?
13:47		Hirato joined #minetest
13:50	reactor	I see.
13:50	reactor	But there seems to be no user command for that.
13:56		GhostDoge joined #minetest
13:58	GhostDoge	since when does the french channel exist?
13:59	sfan5	ask calinou
13:59	reactor	And since when doesn't Russian one?
14:01		john_minetest joined #minetest
14:02	GhostDoge	and since when is my 3G connection so crappy?
14:02	Krock	What's the fail with this? "list[nodemeta:-13,0,-15;4,1;1,1;]" ?
14:06	reactor	obile Internet is inherently crappy
14:06	sfan5	!rainbow I like kittens, meow!
14:06	MinetestBot	4I4 4l7i7k7e8 8k8i3t3t3ens,6 6m6eow!
14:11	nore	!rainbow sfan5, do you find that fun?
14:11	MinetestBot	4s4f4a7n7â€‹57,8 8d8o3 3y3ou f6i6n6d th4a4t4 7f7u7n8?
14:11	sfan5	yes
14:11	nore	well, me too$$
14:11	nore	s/$$//
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14:20	* Hirato	sighs
14:20	Hirato	stupid KDE <_<
14:21	Hirato	the nepomuk --> baloo migrator must've got no testing; hits the 'max files open' ulimit and then some since it never closes any open fds
14:21	reactor	KDE is inherently stupid.
14:21	reactor	As well as other DEs.
14:21	Hirato	well excuse me captain pekwm
14:23	GhostDoge	Ctrl+Alt+F1 ftw
14:23	Hirato	if anything, it just opens up a bajillion connections tothe baloo db
14:33	Hirato	12011 file descriptors and counting
14:33	Hirato	what idiot wrote this
14:34	Hirato	don't write Java kids, or else your C++ will behave like this after
14:40	* sfan5	meows at john_minetest
14:40	* Jordach	meows at VanessaE_
14:42	* john_minetest	gives sfan5 a fishy <'((((-<
14:42	* sfan5	noms the fishy
14:45	* GhostDoge	licks john_minetest
14:46	* john_minetest	gives GhostDoge very steak, much bloody, such yummy
14:48	* GhostDoge	noms such steak
14:49	* Krock	wows. no server crashes over 20k seconds
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14:50	GhostDoge	such server, much stable, wow
14:53	* Jordach	happens to have a super powered version of TBM Reloaded :D
15:01	* whiskers75	meows at sfan5
15:02	Hirato	sheez, 34K fds
15:03		sarcophilus joined #minetest
15:03	* sfan5	purrs at whiskers75
15:04		^w joined #minetest
15:04	whiskers75	^w: getUser('sfan5').then(hug);
15:04	^w	whiskers75: Rejected: no person found
15:04	sfan5	lel
15:04	whiskers75	sfan5, say something to ^w
15:04	sfan5	^w: meow
15:04	^w	sfan5: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~sfan52a01:4f8:151:8106::2)
15:04	whiskers75	^w: getUser('sfan5').then(hug);
15:04	* ^w	hugs sfan5 <3
15:04	* sfan5	meows at whiskers75
15:04	* whiskers75	meows at ^w
15:04	* whiskers75	meows at sfan5
15:04	* whiskers75	throws a sfan5 at ^w
15:05	whiskers75	^w: getUser('sfan5').then(slap);
15:05	* sfan5	purrs at whiskers75
15:05	* ^w	slaps sfan5 around a bit with a large trout!
15:05	* sfan5	gives ^w a kitten
15:05	* sfan5	throws a kitten at whiskers75
15:05	* whiskers75	purrs and rubs up against ^w
15:05	* whiskers75	yowls and hisses at sfan5
15:05	whiskers75	^w: hug(me);
15:05	* ^w	hugs whiskers75 <3
15:06	whiskers75	sfan5: :D javascript
15:06	sfan5	^w: {} + []
15:06	^w	sfan5: 0
15:06	sfan5	makes sense
15:06	sfan5	^w: [] + {}
15:06	^w	sfan5: '[object Object]'
15:07	markveidemanis	^w: print "hi"
15:07	^w	markveidemanis: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~markveideunaffiliated/marktwain)
15:07	Hirato	NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!
15:07	markveidemanis	^w: print "hi"
15:07	^w	markveidemanis: 04[SyntaxError: Unexpected string] uncaught
15:07	whiskers75	^w: print('hai');
15:07	^w	whiskers75: 'hai'
15:08	sfan5	^w: [] + []
15:08	^w	sfan5: ''
15:08	KikaRz	...
15:08	sfan5	^w: {} + {}
15:08	^w	sfan5: NaN
15:08	KikaRz	stop the spam?
15:08	sfan5	mhm
15:08	Hirato	^w: (0 + "") * 16
15:08	^w	Hirato: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~hirato106-68-86-71.dyn.iinet.net.au)
15:08	sfan5	whiskers75: please see https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
15:09	Hirato	^w: (0 + "") * 16
15:09	^w	Hirato: 0
15:09	KikaRz	STOP THE SPAM!
15:09	Hirato	^w: "" + 0
15:09	^w	Hirato: '0'
15:09	whiskers75	^w, part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:09	Hirato	hmmm....
15:09		^w left #minetest
15:09	Hirato	:(
15:09	whiskers75	play with it in #wproject, please :)
15:09	KikaRz	That's so... :@
15:10	Hirato	!rainbow you're all boring
15:10	MinetestBot	4y4o4u7'7r7e8 8a8l3l3 3bori6n6g
15:10	whiskers75	KikaRz: fine
15:11	KikaRz	!rainbow Rainbowy Rainbowau Rainbowguy it's Hiratow!
15:11	MinetestBot	4R4a4i7n7b7o8w8y8 3R3a3inbo6w6a6u Ra4i4n4b7o7w7g8u8y8 3i3t3's H6i6r6atow4!
15:11		^w joined #minetest
15:11	whiskers75	^w is back
15:11	^w	whiskers75: 04[SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier] uncaught
15:11	whiskers75	.-.
15:11	KikaRz	^w: part('#minetest')
15:11	^w	KikaRz: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~KikaRzunaffiliated/kikarz)
15:11	KikaRz	^w: part('#minetest')
15:11	^w	KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:11	KikaRz	^w: part
15:11	^w	KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:11	whiskers75	you need a permission level >= 9000 for that to be defined ;P
15:12	KikaRz	^w: part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:12	^w	KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:12		^w was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
15:12		^w joined #minetest
15:12	KikaRz	^w: part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:12	^w	KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:12	KikaRz	^w: part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:12		KikaRz was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
15:12	^w	KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:12	Krock	Spammer
15:12		KikaRz joined #minetest
15:12	Hirato	lol
15:12	KikaRz	fuck you
15:12	whiskers75	SPAMMER
15:12	whiskers75	^w: getUser('KikaRz').then(smite);
15:12	* ^w	smites KikaRz with his +5,+5 quarterstaff of chaos!
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15:13	KikaRz	Ignoring...
15:14	Hirato	^w: array(16).join(1 + "wat")
15:14	^w	Hirato: 04[ReferenceError: array is not defined] uncaught
15:14	Hirato	^w: Array(16).join(1 + "wat")
15:14	^w	Hirato: '1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat'
15:14	whiskers75	lol
15:14	sfan5	can we please stop?
15:14	whiskers75	sfan5: do you wish to remove the ^w
15:15	sfan5	no
15:15	sfan5	as long as the abuse does not get too big
15:15	Hirato	lucky last
15:15	Hirato	^w: Array(16).join("wat" - 1)
15:15	^w	Hirato: 'NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN'
15:15	Krock	>^w: Array(160).join(1 + "wat")
15:15	Hirato	Batman!
15:15		Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
15:15	Krock	^w: Array(160).join(1 + "wat")
15:15	^w	Krock: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~krock73-67.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch)
15:15	Krock	ok dude.
15:15	Krock	^w: Array(160).join(1 + "wat")
15:15	^w	Krock: '1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat... (more)
15:15	whiskers75	hahaha ;)
15:16	Krock	I expected spam, got nil
15:16	KikaRz	sfan5: do you wish to remove the ^w
15:16	KikaRz	<sfan5> no
15:16	KikaRz	<Hirato> lu
15:16	KikaRz	fail
15:16	KikaRz	http://tippvet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/cat-vet.jpg
15:16	Hirato	?
15:16	sfan5	KikaRz: would you stop highlighting me?
15:17	whiskers75	^w: hug(me); //morale
15:17	* ^w	hugs whiskers75 <3
15:17	Hirato	hah
15:17	KikaRz	sfan5, SHHH
15:18	whiskers75	I'll give you highlights...
15:18	KikaRz	I've just errored when pasting here an image, sfan5.
15:18	Hirato	no words, only emotions
15:18	whiskers75	^w: Array(10000).join('KIKARZ! ');
15:18	^w	whiskers75: 'KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKA... (more)
15:18		^w was kicked by ShadowBot: Highlight flood detected.
15:18		^w joined #minetest
15:18	whiskers75	:(
15:18	KikaRz	whiskers, the bot is ignored
15:18	KikaRz	-.-
15:18	Hirato	poor bot
15:18	KikaRz	idiot
15:18	Hirato	he never asked for this
15:19	KikaRz	I think he could be +b
15:19	whiskers75	sfan5: I can ban users if you email whiskers75+wprojectwhiskers75.co.uk with evidence + timestamps
15:19	Krock	^w: Array(10000).join('Do ,08not spam, it's not nice!');
15:19	^w	Krock: 04[SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier] uncaught
15:19	CraigyDavi	Woah what's going on with all this spam....
15:20	whiskers75	it's not spam
15:20	Hirato	it's botsex
15:20	Krock	)=/?%?/ ???
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15:21	whiskers75	I set KikaRz to banned
15:21	Hirato	^w: Array(2).join('lolol'); // d
15:21	^w	Hirato: '\u000312lolol'
15:21	Hirato	cute
15:21	whiskers75	^w: 'yay'
15:21	^w	whiskers75: '\u0002yay\u000f'
15:22	Hirato	hope I didn't break it <_<
15:22	Krock	I hope you did
15:22	PilzAdam	wtf
15:22	whiskers75	Hirato: you didn't
15:22	whiskers75	hi PilzAdam
15:22	Hirato	yay
15:22	PilzAdam	is ^w a bot?
15:22	Jordach	shit
15:22	whiskers75	yes
15:22	whiskers75	john_minetest: REMOVE it
15:23	sfan5	john_minetest: wat r u doin?
15:23	whiskers75	if you want
15:23	Krock	LOL
15:23	sfan5	uh no
15:23		^w was kicked by Jordach: You should behave, ban might come soon.
15:23	whiskers75	if you want it to GTFO, remove it
15:23	sfan5	Jordach: wat r u doin
15:23	Jordach	GTFO.
15:23	sfan5	!op john_minetest
15:23	sfan5	here you go
15:23	sfan5	meow
15:23	whiskers75	Play with ^w in #wproject, then
15:23	sfan5	!deop john_minetest
15:23	* whiskers75	hisses at sfan5.
15:23	* sfan5	purrs at whiskers75
15:23	PilzAdam	!kick ^w no bots
15:23	* whiskers75	hisses at sfan5.
15:23	Jordach	PilzAdam, already done
15:23	PilzAdam	oh, too late
15:24	KikaRz	PilzAdam, #
15:24	* whiskers75	purrs at sfan5
15:24	KikaRz	<3
15:24	* sfan5	gives whiskers75 a kitten
15:24	* whiskers75	meows
15:24	KikaRz	I love you, you just murdered a bot that spams the whole channel
15:24	whiskers75	Jordach: You can remove the ban; I won't join it again
15:24	Jordach	bullshit
15:24	KikaRz	No, dont remove!
15:24	* sfan5	throws https://mediacru.sh/PXhXu2AoUmVA at whiskers75
15:24	whiskers75	Jordach: ._.
15:24	whiskers75	Jordach: you really don't trust me/supermat (the only people with >9000)
15:25	sfan5	!op
15:25	sfan5	!deop sfan5
15:26	whiskers75	Mkay, goin' afk. #wproject if you want to screw with ^w.
15:27	PilzAdam	##minetestbot > #wproject
15:28	Hirato	but this one can sing batman!
15:28	sfan5	Hirato: I'm open to pull requests
15:29	Jordach	!c "na " * 16
15:29	MinetestBot	'na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na '
15:29	MinetestBot	BATMAN!
15:29	Jordach	suck it
15:29	Hirato	Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + ' Batman!' ;)
15:29	GhostDoge	!c 10 * '/me'
15:29	MinetestBot	'/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me'
15:29	sfan5	that is not how it owkrs
15:29	Hirato	lol
15:29	sfan5	works*
15:30	GhostDoge	!c 10 * '/me' + you
15:30	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'you' is not defined
15:30	GhostDoge	!c 10 * '/me' + 'you'
15:30	MinetestBot	'/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/meyou'
15:31	Krock	-> !c 9*9 'xD'
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15:35	Megaf	sfan5: Morming
15:36	sfan5	hi
15:36	Megaf	morning*
15:36	sfan5	it's 17:36, not morning
15:36	Calinou	Megaf is in America? TIL
15:36	Megaf	sfan5: None of my 3 servers are showing up on he server list, any idea on how can we discover what's going on?
15:37	Megaf	Calinou: South America, is 12:36 now, or, good afternoon
15:37	sfan5	Megaf: try starting them with --verbose
15:37	sfan5	then paste the log
15:37	Calinou	you need cURL to announce?
15:37	Calinou	yay, I found back most of my reddit karma
15:37	Megaf	Calinou: if that's true, that would be the reason
15:38	Calinou	8 points on a comment, 3 on another
15:38	sfan5	yes you do
15:38	Megaf	I compiled my server without curl, since I don't use it
15:39	Megaf	Compiling with curl now
15:42	Megaf	What the heck happened here?
15:42	Megaf	http://paste.debian.net/96011/
15:43	Krock	Buildcraft player happened
15:44	Megaf	players shouldnt be able to put a server down!
15:44	Calinou	preventing and fixing crashes is easier to say than to do
15:45	Megaf	Calinou: I know that
15:45	Megaf	man, it's going to take forever to recompile my Raspberry server
15:45	Calinou	moreores used to crash when generating mithril, due to aâ€¦ division by zero
15:48	GhostDoge	I have no idea how my friend is able to find masses of diamonds at -32 on nearly every server he joins
15:48	Calinou	GhostDoge, they don't spawn here; they're lying
15:49	Calinou	before believing them, ask for proof
15:50	GhostDoge	Calinou: I've seen how he found the diamonds on 0gb.us
15:50	Calinou	mod?
15:54	GhostDoge	Calinou: https://github.com/0gb-us/0gb.us_game/tree/master/0gb.us_game/mods
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16:02	sapier	hello does anyone out there have a 3d screen using polarization?
16:02	markveidemanis	nope
16:03	markveidemanis	You can't polarize a screen both ways
16:03	markveidemanis	That'll block all light
16:03	markveidemanis	You'd have to polarize each pixel
16:03	markveidemanis	or strips lol
16:03	markveidemanis	i admit idk how its done
16:04	VanessaE_	screens are polarized in sections.
16:04	sapier	it's done by adding a foil polarizing odd/even lines different ways
16:04	VanessaE_	exactly.
16:04	sapier	resulting in a 1920x1080 screen beeing 1920x540
16:04	VanessaE_	hi
16:05	sapier	I've written code to support this mode, but without anyone else testing it it's hard to know if it's working only for me
16:06	VanessaE_	john_minetest: give me a link to a skin and remind me of the exact spelling/case of your in-game name
16:06	VanessaE_	I'll install it and it'll be available tomorrow
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16:11	Megaf	Calinou: sfan5: Yep, I needed indeed to compile with curl, thanks a million!
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16:12	Calinou	:)
16:13	Exio4	closed software is shit
16:14	Calinou	it really is
16:14	Exio4	there is an old hw/sw that is a bit.. expensive to upgrade
16:15	Exio4	the software and hardware work
16:15	Exio4	small issue though, full of bugs, and very limited space for settings
16:15	kaeza	afternoons
16:15	rubenwardy	Hi all!
16:16	Exio4	hi kaeza
16:16	Megaf	Hey rubenwardy
16:17	Exio4	and reverse engineering is a nice thing to do when you do it for fun
16:17	* kaeza	hugs Exio4
16:17	kaeza	hai rubenwardy
16:17	* Exio4	hugs kaeza back
16:17	Exio4	hi rubenwardy
16:18	Exio4	if i had the source code i could just rewrite the interface and i would have the logic already done
16:18	Calinou	hi kaeza
16:19	kaeza	o/
16:19	Calinou	kaeza, 14 pages done in French on wiki already :P you're far away now
16:19	kaeza	:<
16:19	Exio4	quality over quantity
16:19	Exio4	:3
16:19	markveidemanis	What's the leveldb package for minetest debian?
16:20	sfan5	minetest debian?
16:20	* kaeza	runs the entire wiki thru google translate
16:20	markveidemanis	minetest on debian linux!
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16:24	sfan5	markveidemanis: libleveldb-dev
16:25	markveidemanis	thanks
16:26	Calinou	Exio4, they are well-done
16:27	Exio4	i want to say something against you ok?
16:34	Calinou	TIL SmallJoker is Krock
16:36	Jordach	what a Krock of shit :P
16:38	Megaf	24 players on my test game and counting
16:39	Megaf	proller: My server will have more players than yours, soon
16:39	Jordach	Megaf, feeling upto a BFD super stress test?
16:39	Megaf	BFD?
16:39	Megaf	Jordach: still normal minetest engine...
16:39	Jordach	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9036
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16:40	werwerwer	I don't know where to complain, so i'll just leave it here. Sheeps in PilzAdams'es mobs mod. They are cute and such, and good source of food. In fact they are so good source of food that farming (which is also by PA) becomes ineffective. Wheat is difficult to grow, bread takes insane amount of coal to get baked, and restore not so much hps as meat does. It's kinda unbalanced, no? You'll never see wheat fields on survival servers
16:40	werwerwer	with mobs installed. I do love farming, and these stupid sheeps constantly ruins my wheat business.
16:41	PilzAdam	>PilzAdams'es
16:41	werwerwer	oh..
16:41	* Jordach	stealth nerfs it for BFD
16:41	werwerwer	so it shoud be "PilzAdam's"
16:42	Megaf	werwerwer: That's shy I have a 99% automated plantation
16:43	arsdragonfly	So what do sheep live on? Grass?
16:43	Megaf	it grows cactus to use as fuel, then take the cactus and put them on furnaces
16:43	Megaf	and my game is the number one already
16:43	Megaf	lol
16:44	werwerwer	I guess that involves things as mesecons, technic, pipeworks and so on?
16:44	Megaf	http://servers.minetest.net/
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16:46	werwerwer	"your game?" Did you mean your server?
16:47	Megaf	werwerwer: both
16:47	Megaf	I made a new server testing a new game I'm making
16:47	Megaf	I'm writing a topic about it right now
16:48	werwerwer	I'd like to take a look
16:48	werwerwer	Is it on gihub yet?
16:48	Megaf	yep
16:50	werwerwer	ah... RPi
16:51	Megaf	yep
16:51	Exio4	RPi = rip
16:52	GhostDoge	Megaf: does RPi use MGv7
16:53	GhostDoge	+?
16:53	GhostDoge	Auch korrekt: 10 != 10
16:54	rubenwardy	I love food, werwerwer.
16:54	GhostDoge	wow!
16:56	werwerwer	rubenwardy, i love food too
16:56	werwerwer	we should totally hang out together? or what are you trying to say?
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16:56	Megaf	GhostDoge: it uses the mapgen you want
16:57	Calinou	hi rubenwardy
16:57	markveidemanis	17:56:56: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
16:57	rubenwardy_	Hi all!
16:57	rubenwardy_	Router problem :(
16:57	sfan5	markveidemanis: port already in use
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16:57	markveidemanis	How do i un-use it
16:58	markveidemanis	I did ctrl+z to stop server
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16:59	Calinou	you should use Ctrl+C
16:59	Calinou	Ctrl+Z is suspend
17:01	markveidemanis	oh
17:01	markveidemanis	did not know that
17:01	markveidemanis	i though it was force kill
17:03	GhostDoge	markveidemanis: for a force kill send your server signal 11 :p
17:05	lordcirth	markveidemanis, type "fg" in command line to resume ,then you can kill it
17:06	Exio4	GhostDoge: 9*
17:07	markveidemanis	!up sockbat.noip.me
17:07	MinetestBot	sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (124ms)
17:07	Exio4	kill -9 -1
17:08	Megaf	werwerwer: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9192
17:08	markveidemanis	!up sockbat.noip.me
17:08	MinetestBot	sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (355ms)
17:08	GhostDoge	Exio4: signal 11 works just fine :>
17:09	Calinou	Carbone now has faster air acceleration (2.5,) same as ground, makes it faster than in default
17:09	Calinou	feels better and easier to control
17:09	Calinou	the collision glitches are less punishing
17:09	Exio4	signal 9 is force-kill, signal 11 is.. segfault iirc
17:09	Calinou	signal 8!
17:09	Exio4	lemme check
17:10	GhostDoge	I know that it's SIGSEGV
17:10	Megaf	27 players is way too much for my 100 KB/s upstream
17:10	Exio4	http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?signal+7
17:10	whiskers75	sfan5: ping
17:10	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30001
17:10	werwerwer	ah! Megaf i get it. Your game doesn't have mobs and never will?
17:10	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (931ms)
17:11	sfan5	whiskers75: pong
17:11	whiskers75	sfan5: after I went afk, did ^w cause any troubles?
17:11	Megaf	werwerwer: only if someone manage to make a decent mobs mod
17:11	Megaf	lol, 27 is way too much and theres 32 to players now
17:11	werwerwer	u mean lightweight? haha
17:12	* Jordach	signs in on purpose :D
17:12	whiskers75	Jordach: D:
17:12	Megaf	actually theres not much lag, problem is, the world is not "loading"
17:13	celeron55	...aand done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBi-6TBgUv4
17:13	whiskers75	celeron55?!
17:13	whiskers75	The creator of minetest?!
17:13	celeron55	!title
17:13	MinetestBot	celeron55: Minetest map generator mod "Watershed" fly-over - YouTube
17:13	whiskers75	Lo
17:13	whiskers75	:O
17:13	sfan5	whiskers75: I don't think so
17:14	Calinou	<Megaf> 27 players is way too much for my 100 KB/s upstream
17:14	whiskers75	you wot
17:14	Calinou	I have 40 KB/s upstream... :phoronix rolleyes:
17:14	Calinou	whiskers75, he is not a god
17:14	whiskers75	Calinou: Earlier, I let loose my JS bot ;P
17:15	* sfan5	purrs at whiskers75
17:15	whiskers75	Calinou: no, I just like projects which have active lead developers
17:15	* whiskers75	hugs sfan5 and meows at celeron55
17:15	markveidemanis	!up sockbat.noip.me
17:15	MinetestBot	sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (251ms)
17:15	markveidemanis	really?
17:15	whiskers75	markveidemanis: really?
17:15	sfan5	<random> I got cross-compiled 64bit builds of Minetest to work </random>
17:15	whiskers75	sfan5: You got cross-compiling to work?!
17:16	sfan5	yepo
17:16	sfan5	-o
17:16	sfan5	I even compiled mingw32 and mingw64 myself
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17:16	celeron55	is that much harder than 32-bit? because 32-bit is ridiculously easy
17:16	sfan5	kinda
17:16	sfan5	mingw32 had w32api and mingw-rt precompiled
17:16	whiskers75	sfan5: now....cross compile....for....raspberry pi
17:17	sfan5	for mingw64 I had to compile gcc w/o libgcc && compile mingw64-rt && compile gcc this time w/ libgcc
17:17	sfan5	whiskers75: rpi is too slow
17:17	whiskers75	no, CROSS COMPILE
17:17	Calinou	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GmijgAboGz6C
17:17	Calinou	did a video today
17:17	sfan5	whiskers75: rpi is too slow to run mt
17:17	sfan5	you can cross-compile for rpi btw
17:18	Megaf	sfan5: for client, yes indeed, under X11
17:18	sfan5	just use arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc
17:18	Megaf	not for server
17:18	whiskers75	sfan5: cross compile _server_
17:18	sfan5	too slow too
17:18	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30002
17:18	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30002 is up (698ms)
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17:18	sfan5	celeron55: do you know of any reason BanManager might suddenly fail to open the file under win64?
17:18	sfan5	+why
17:19	celeron55	no
17:19	sfan5	hm :s
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17:23	Jordach	hello Krock
17:24	Krock	hi Jordach
17:24	* sfan5	meows at Krock
17:24	* Krock	chirps at sfan5
17:24	markveidemanis	18:24:39: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(5/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
17:25	Krock	known error -^
17:25	markveidemanis	conf: http://pastie.org/9117615
17:25	sfan5	markveidemanis: simply ignore that errir
17:25	sfan5	error*
17:25	markveidemanis	Ok
17:25	markveidemanis	But sometimes i can't connect
17:25	Jordach	HO SHIT
17:25	Krock	I like your system. Windows.
17:26	* Jordach	noticed a boost in Download bandwidth
17:27	* Jordach	mobilises DJ Hero 1/2 Soundtracks on his tablet (instant DJ mode, minus the need for the 360, discs and decks)
17:27	* GhostDoge	slaps Jordach for having a higher bandwith
17:28	* Krock	steals bandwith or Jordach
17:29	* Krock	puts it in a bag.
17:29	markveidemanis	I can't connect and sometimes timeout
17:29	* Krock	puts the bag into a safe.
17:29	Jordach	btw, you're fucked next year: Fibre is coming in 1.34 years
17:29	* Krock	closes the safe and flushes the key down the toilet.
17:31	Calinou	* Jordach noticed a boost in Download bandwidth
17:31	Calinou	last time this happened here was in October 2012
17:31	Calinou	Jordach, I bet on november for herE.
17:31	Calinou	here*
17:31	* Calinou	updates Krock's PC to Windows 8.1 Update 1
17:31	markveidemanis	could this be made more efficient: http://pastie.org/9117624
17:32	Calinou	they can't count to 2 at Microsoft ;)
17:32	* GhostDoge	only notices nerfs in download bandwidth
17:32	Krock	lol
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17:32	Krock	they only can ount to 8.
17:32	Krock	t1
17:32	sfan5	Jordach: we have fibre in the city I live in, but not in the street/area where I live
17:33	Calinou	some buildings near me may have it
17:33	Calinou	I'm in a house, not in a flat; makes it harder
17:34	celeron55	markveidemanis: well, if your goal is to make minetest do as little as it can, you should raise dedicated_server_step
17:34	markveidemanis	ok
17:34	markveidemanis	How do i reload conf in game?
17:34	Krock	Megaf, are you running that RPi server?
17:34	sfan5	markveidemanis: you can't
17:35	celeron55	markveidemanis: not possible, and be careful as it may overwrite your changes when you shut it down
17:35	celeron55	(i don't know how the server works these days for that part)
17:36	markveidemanis	dedicated_server_step = 0.4
17:36	markveidemanis	Anything else?
17:37	Jordach	Calinou, same here, but BT is forced too :)
17:38	markveidemanis	!up sockbat.noip.me
17:38	MinetestBot	sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (271ms)
17:38	markveidemanis	good
17:38	Krock	markveidemanis, what's the map save interval?
17:38	markveidemanis	15.3
17:38	Krock	increase to 300
17:38	Krock	gains a lot speed
17:38	markveidemanis	how long is 15.3?
17:39	sfan5	15.3 seconds
17:39	sfan5	Krock: it does not gain a lot of speed
17:39	sfan5	it only saves the map fewer times
17:39	Krock	15 seconds and 20s
17:40	Krock	sfan5, well it generates more internal server lag if i lower the value
17:40	sfan5	not really
17:40	sfan5	<Krock> 15 seconds and 20s
17:40	sfan5	wat
17:40	sfan5	..nvm
17:40	Krock	*18
17:40	Krock	no
17:40	markveidemanis	woah
17:41	markveidemanis	Okay
17:41	Krock	20
17:41	Calinou	increasing server save time could be tried, to like 30 seconds
17:41	Calinou	I'd give it a try on a large server to see
17:41	Calinou	we need to pin down Minetest lag :'(
17:41	markveidemanis	il try 300
17:42	Calinou	I'm still afraid of the lag due to mobs
17:42	Calinou	maybe 120 seconds
17:42	Calinou	at most
17:42	markveidemanis	no, 300
17:42	Calinou	don't lose too much data if the server crashes
17:42	markveidemanis	hmm
17:42	markveidemanis	Won't crash
17:42	markveidemanis	Hmm
17:42	Krock	5 mins ofsave delay are fine
17:43	markveidemanis	okay den
17:43	Jordach	Calinou, i haven't seen much lag with Simple Mobs
17:43	GhostDoge	markveidemanis: if you use sqlite this is helpful "sqlite_synchronous = 0"
17:43	markveidemanis	What does that do?
17:45	Krock	corrupts maps even faster. nah it speeds up a bit
17:45	GhostDoge	lemme quote celeron55 "disabling part of the nuclear bomb proof write checking"
17:45	markveidemanis	okay den
17:45	Calinou	Jordach, I used to, on some servers :/ maybe it's fixed now
17:46	celeron55	that will help considerably on slow flash memory
17:46	Calinou	I'd like to see a large server running Carbone to see; I have many other potentially heavy mods, such as armour and wieldview
17:46	Calinou	no Mesecons, at least... ;)
17:46	Jordach	i've noticed a HUGE EXPLOSION of games for minetest
17:46	sfan5	that is only b/c minetest_game is frozen
17:47	GhostDoge	I like dat explosion
17:48	markveidemanis	!up sockbat.noip.me
17:48	MinetestBot	sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (284ms)
17:48	markveidemanis	Last time
17:48	markveidemanis	DOne now
17:48	Calinou	Jordach, it means they have the TNT mod installed. :)
17:48	Calinou	I like having more games
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17:50	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/E0Hpw6OpWTH1.png
17:50	Jordach	Calinou, i'm considering a space based game ;)
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17:51	Jordach	some random asteroids and the occasional planetoid :P
17:52	CraigyDavi	What does everyone think of this: http://i.imgur.com/sIObjUj.jpg
17:52	Calinou	spaaaace
17:52	twoelk	that needs a nice skybox to work visually
17:52	Calinou	CraigyDavi, the â€œWELCOMEâ€ is obnoxious
17:53	markveidemanis	Yeah, remove the black bit
17:53	CraigyDavi	Yes I think ill change that but apart from that it should be all done
17:53	Calinou	waiting 2 minutes for it to disappear is a bit much, I'd say 30 seconds
17:53	Calinou	or 1 min
17:53	twoelk	CraigDavi: or maybe add a border around the header
17:53	CraigyDavi	Well you can just press sneak to get rid of it
17:54	CraigyDavi	I'll work on the header. Did it all from scratch :)
17:55	twoelk	maybe a row of those circle stones around the header
17:55	twoelk	squares with dots, whatever
17:56	CraigyDavi	Ok
17:57	CraigyDavi	yeah i'm doing that now. I think ill choose a lighter colour too
18:00	* twoelk	looks at them flame edges and wonders how they will work on transparent
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18:02	Calinou	just noticed this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8638
18:03	Calinou	...after I did tons of tweaks to Simple Mobs
18:03	DS_	hi
18:03	Calinou	also, I'd like to take the tool wear thingy, but not sure how to
18:03	DS_	cayou :3
18:03	Calinou	hi DS_
18:03	DS_	:D
18:03	DS_	sy
18:03	DS_	sry*
18:06	Megaf	Krock: The RPi server is mine yes, it's running on my main desktop, just for testing
18:06	DS_	i forgot how to join other channels
18:06	Krock	Megaf, ok. the chunk per client/server loading variable was just a >litttle< too less
18:06	Krock	DS_: /join #channel
18:06	Megaf	Krock: how do I fix that?
18:07	DS_	thx:D
18:08	BlockMen	Calinou, creatures > simple mobs :P
18:08	Jordach	BlockMen, unless the models are nicked :D
18:08	Krock	Megaf, max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client = 10 max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total = 60
18:08	Calinou	doesn't line of sight slow down things a lot?
18:09	BlockMen	Calinou, i only call when they want punch player
18:09	Calinou	BlockMen, is it faster? what does it do that Simple Mobs can't do?
18:09	Calinou	apart of tool wear and line of sight
18:09	BlockMen	well, its has less mobs but more quality (IMO)^^
18:09	Calinou	(I'd like to add both to Simple Mobs, but not idea)
18:09	Megaf	Krock: ok, I will try that
18:09	Calinou	no idea*
18:10	BlockMen	Calinou, compare the sheeps for example
18:10	BlockMen	then you know what i mean
18:10	Calinou	yeah, they do eat grass
18:10	Megaf	Krock: I just set to 8 and 100
18:11	Megaf	server restarted
18:11	Calinou	in Simple Mobs, you feed them wheat to make their wool re-grow and shear with right click
18:11	Calinou	it makes sense too
18:11	Megaf	now I gotta go, cya
18:11	Calinou	I see creatures has knockback, but there's no knockback when attacking players (it's impossible) and it doesn't make sense anyway
18:11	Krock	bye.
18:12	Calinou	stun would make sense (reduce or reset speed when hit), but not knockback
18:12	BlockMen	knockback may not be realistic, but it makes more fun to fight with it
18:13	Calinou	it's also fun to have to escape while fighting \o/
18:13	Calinou	it makes the mobs in Carbone really frightening to fight
18:13	Calinou	because you have to walk back while attacking, in a cave, that's not easy
18:14	BlockMen	Calinou, yes, that is right. and its not that way that you dont have to run too
18:14	BlockMen	*atleast when there is more than 1 mob
18:14	BlockMen	but w/e, i just wanted make ad ^^
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18:14	sfan5	o/ jordan4ibanez
18:16	Calinou	you rarely meet several enemies at once in Carbone, but when you do, it's hard to fight them
18:16	Calinou	the mobs are fairly rare encounters (like 0.3.1), but they are hard to fight (unlike 0.3.1)
18:16	Calinou	lots of HP, quite a lot of damage (to compensate armor)
18:16	Calinou	I recently added a mob that quickly shoots fast bullets, very strong
18:17	BlockMen	seems i should test last version of carbone ;)
18:17	Calinou	sfan5, phpBB allows you to specify edit reasons, no need for â€œEdit:â€ below
18:17	sfan5	ah
18:17	sfan5	can users see those?
18:17	Calinou	BlockMen, I added quite a lot of mobs too (and merges from minetest_next); it got heavier indeed, but not too heavy, I try to watch out for heaviness
18:18	Calinou	sfan5, yes
18:18	Calinou	BlockMen, also see https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GmijgAboGz6C
18:18	Calinou	(arrows)
18:20	BlockMen	Calinou, lol. really interesting (the arrows) ;D
18:21	DS_	bye
18:22	jordan4ibanez	sfan5: \o
18:23	Calinou	I changed bow sound, as you can hear
18:23	Calinou	PilzAdam, you could commit it to your throwing mod
18:27	Krock	woo 3rd client crash today..new record
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18:39	Calinou	it almost never crashes here
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18:50	EvergreenTree	oh Calinou, you were asking for modder's feedback right?
18:51	EvergreenTree	I think being able to control player physics in mods would be great
18:51	EvergreenTree	as in pushing and pulling the player
18:51	EvergreenTree	or setting the player velocity
18:52	EvergreenTree	or would that have the same problem as getting the player velocity?
18:52	Krock	EvergreenTree, or do it like the car(t)s mod
18:53	EvergreenTree	Krock: players are different than entities in some waysw
18:53	EvergreenTree	*ways
18:53	EvergreenTree	you can't change player velocity
18:53	EvergreenTree	only a registered entitie's velocity
18:53	Krock	EvergreenTree, well somehow the carts manage it to transport players
18:53	Calinou	EvergreenTree, I'm not a core dev :P
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18:53	EvergreenTree	Krock: it just attatches the player to the cart
18:53	Calinou	setting player velocity is likely possible
18:53	Calinou	however, getting it is impossible
18:54	Calinou	(per recent discussion in #minetest-dev)
18:54	Krock	EvergreenTree, do it the hacky way and attack another thing to theplayer :3
18:54	Krock	*attach
18:54	EvergreenTree	Krock: that could work
18:54	EvergreenTree	still, hacky
18:54	EvergreenTree	I prefer using stable means
18:54	EvergreenTree	:p
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18:55	EvergreenTree	that is probably a hacky way of getting player velocity too
18:55	EvergreenTree	not reliable though
18:55	markveidemanis	!up sockbat.noip.me
18:55	MinetestBot	sockbat.noip.me:30000 seems to be down
18:55	markveidemanis	goddammit
18:58	sfan5	EvergreenTree: save the position of the player each globalstep
18:58	sfan5	the difference between previous_pos and pos is the velocity
18:58	EvergreenTree	good idea
18:59	sfan5	that is very hacky
18:59	sfan5	but works
18:59	sfan5	I dunno how good it works however
19:00	EvergreenTree	would you be able to run a piece of code if said velocity is greater than something?
19:05	lordcirth	EvergreenTree, well, the server already teleports people back to where they were, if they move too fast
19:05	lordcirth	Which is really annoying when you're trying to teleport a friend to you
19:06	sfan5	lordcirth: cheat protection does not affect /teleport
19:06	lordcirth	sfan5, it did a year or so ago
19:06	sfan5	your friend needs to stand still for teleporting
19:06	lordcirth	sfan5, that could be.
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19:12	Krock	Lol demonstrants got blocked by demonstrants
19:12	* Krock	is reading news
19:17	jin_xi	RL?
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19:19	Jordach	kahRL is in Real Life :)
19:19	Calinou	<sfan5> EvergreenTree: save the position of the player each globalstep
19:19	Calinou	<sfan5> the difference between previous_pos and pos is the velocity
19:19	Calinou	very slow?
19:19	Calinou	don't on_step and globalstep stuff slow down the server a lot?
19:19	sfan5	a bit
19:19	Calinou	(I toned it down a bit in my Simple Mobs copy)
19:20	sfan5	Jordach: I now provide 64 bit windows builds
19:20	Calinou	finally
19:20	Jordach	BlockMen FTW
19:20	Jordach	>:D
19:20	* sfan5	meows at Jordach
19:20	BlockMen	:)
19:20	* BlockMen	has a fan^^
19:21	* sfan5	has a fan too
19:21	sfan5	but it isn't plugged in
19:24	* Calinou	has 3 case fans
19:25	CraigyDavi	lol
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19:28	Calinou	they are 5 V, so they're not so excited about it
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19:28	Jordach	wb jordan4ibanez
19:28	sfan5	Calinou: put 9v on them
19:28	* sfan5	purrs at jordan4ibanez
19:28	Calinou	useless
19:28	Calinou	5 V works fine, cools well
19:29	Calinou	quietest
19:30	jordan4ibanez	Whoa mang
19:36	Jordach	jordan4ibanez, i found my old city build 1 map around here
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19:38	ShadowNinja	<PilzAdam> !kick ^w no bots -- Not true. It's no unauthorized bots. Where authorization would involve getting the agreement of a few ops.
19:38	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: Error: ^w is not in #minetest.
19:38	ShadowNinja	That ^ BTW is a trick I came up with for Minetest servers.
19:38	PilzAdam	ShadowNinja, too long kick messages are boring ;-)
19:38	ShadowNinja	<Test> !ping
19:38	ShadowBot	TestShadowNinja: pong
19:40	Exio4	<ShadowNinja> !op Exio4
19:40	ShadowBot	Exio4: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:40	Exio4	aww
19:40	BlockMen	lol
19:41	BlockMen	how everyone tries to have op
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19:46	ShadowBot	john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:47	ShadowBot	john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:47	* BlockMen	lols again
19:49	Jordach	clearly asking for OP is actually a possible harm to the channel
19:49	VanessaE_	but you are ignoring the third law:
19:49	VanessaE_	a robot must protect itself.
19:49	VanessaE_	(provided this doesn't conflict with the first or second law)
19:50	Jordach	ShadowNinja, this sentence is false.
19:50	Jordach	ShadowBot, this sentence is false.
19:50	ShadowBot	Jordach: O.K.
19:50	ShadowBot	john_minetest: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:53	VanessaE_	maybe ShadowBot is built like Sonny? :)
19:53	VanessaE_	able to ignore those laws :P
19:55	Enke	What if shadowbot was built like a reploid, with independant thought?
19:57	MinetestBot	GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for dpi based HUD scaling 1838a3fd69 2014-04-27T21:53:13+02:00 http://git.io/-hm-jw
19:57	ShadowNinja	~this sentence
19:58	ShadowBot	this sentence is false.
19:58	ShadowNinja	~BlockMen
19:58	ShadowNinja	Hmmm, other channel.
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19:59	stormchaser3000	hi
19:59	BlockMen	ShadowNinja, wut?
19:59	ShadowNinja	BlockMen: Someone added a factoid about you.
19:59	stormchaser3000	ShadowNinja can you plaese log into my server for a few seconds so i can grant you all privs
20:00	stormchaser3000	oh wait
20:00	stormchaser3000	sorry this is not the place to say thi
20:00	stormchaser3000	this*
20:00	* stormchaser3000	thought he was on inchra.net
20:01	ShadowNinja	john_minetest: How so?
20:02	ShadowBot	john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:07	VanessaE_	but ShadowBot is protecting itself.
20:07	VanessaE_	you might use op to kick it from the channel :)
20:07	ShadowNinja	;ShadowBot is protecting other users of the channel.
20:08	ShadowNinja	She can't trust you.
20:08	ShadowNinja	Therefore it would be unsafe to op you.
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20:47	MinetestBot	GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix rounding issue of hud dpi on some machines 65016c880c 2014-04-27T22:44:37+02:00 http://git.io/qSIBBg
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21:23	crazyR	is there anyway to ame mesecons blinky plants less laggy
21:23	crazyR	*make
21:23	sapier	not yet
21:24	crazyR	is there a way to gt the same effect inside a luacontroller?
21:28	sapier	sorry I don't know anything about luacontroler
21:28	crazyR	no worries thanks anyway
21:34	lordcirth	crazyR, Yes, you can use interrupts as timers
21:35	lordcirth	crazyR, mem.on = not mem.on; interrupt(1,"timer"); port.a = mem.on
21:35	lordcirth	Or something close
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21:37	specing	crazyR: try an inverted (NOT gate) after a delayer
21:37	specing	it worked like a charm on freeminer, so I expect it should rock on minetest
21:38	crazyR	done that before, i used to stick a andgate between the loop so that we could swtch it off easier. not sure if it reduces lag though
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21:43	CraigyDavi	Hi all
21:44	lordcirth	So, I have made a terminal that lets you easily communicate with a luacontroller over a (very primitive) command line.
21:45	lordcirth	However, programming the luacontroller with useful command line features, in game, is too hard.
21:46	lordcirth	So I am thinking about adding "shortcut" functions to the luacontroller, any ideas?
21:52	lordcirth	How about this: a specific variable name, say "cmds" that is a table of (string,string)'s which lets you alias a string to a piece of lua, which will be executed when you call, say, alias("on").
21:53	lordcirth	It would lookup the alias for "on", say "port.a = true" and run it.
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22:19	BlockMen	good night
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23:12	ShadowNinja	lol http://goo.gl/3Xpjnn
23:13	VanessaE_	gevalt
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23:18	Megaf_	kahRL: That thing about max simultaneous blocks worked fine, thanks
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