IRC log for #minetest, 2014-02-09

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02:45	Megaf	VanessaE, movestone just caused this http://paste.debian.net/80947/
02:45	VanessaE	lemme check my code
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02:50	VanessaE	your copy of pipeworks is out of date
02:50	VanessaE	I already have something in place to stop that crash
02:51	VanessaE	something is calling the scan_for_tube_objects() function with a nil for the pos{} table
02:51	VanessaE	so I inserted something a little while back to check for that and abort the scan if that happens
02:51	VanessaE	it's probably due to an unknown node in the vicinity
02:51	Megaf	hm
02:51	Megaf	well, Im going to sleep now, good night
02:52	VanessaE	wait!
02:52	VanessaE	don't DO that!
02:52	Megaf	ok
02:52	VanessaE	NEVER file a bug report and then just...leve
02:52	VanessaE	leave*
02:52	Megaf	sorry
02:52	VanessaE	pastebin the autoplace_tubes.lua file please, I wanna make sure of what your copy has
02:53	Megaf	http://paste.debian.net/80948/
02:53	VanessaE	ok you're up-to-date.
02:53	VanessaE	So,
02:54	VanessaE	try updating now
02:54	VanessaE	see if what I just pushed fixes the crash
02:55	Megaf	ok
02:55	Megaf	wait a sec please
02:56	Megaf	I think it fixed
02:56	Megaf	VanessaE, what is the movestone for anyway?
02:57	VanessaE	it's used to push other blocks around normally
02:57	VanessaE	like a piston but it moves itself around as well
02:57	VanessaE	a piston stays anchored in one place and pushes a row or column exactly one node
02:57	VanessaE	a movestone moves around along a line of mesecons wires and perhaps drags a block around with it
02:58	VanessaE	someone probably used a sticky movestone to drag a tube around
02:58	VanessaE	and it probably got dragged past an unknown node
02:58	Megaf	ok
02:58	Megaf	crashed again
02:58	VanessaE	pastebin the error please
02:58	Megaf	VanessaE, you can reproduce there, I know the problem
02:58	Megaf	I place the push button in the front/back side of the movestone
02:58	Megaf	then it cant move
02:58	VanessaE	can you please give me a screenshot of a circuit/layout that I can use to reproduce?
02:59	VanessaE	and pastebin the new error message
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02:59	Megaf	http://paste.debian.net/80949/
03:01	VanessaE	ok, update and try again
03:03	Megaf	VanessaE, in order
03:03	Megaf	http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot345416857.php#
03:03	Megaf	http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot345426748.php#
03:04	Megaf	And then as soon as I hit the button, it crashes and it turned into this http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot345428487.php
03:04	VanessaE	did you update again like I said just a moment ago?
03:06	VanessaE	hm, wouldn't help anyway, I can reproduce it locally.
03:06	VanessaE	let me investigate, but I think this is actually a bug in mesecons
03:06	Megaf	sorry VanessaE still crashing, Im not crashing my server anymore, theres people playing
03:06	VanessaE	oh wait,
03:06	Megaf	you have the exact recipe to reproduce the problem
03:06	VanessaE	lemme put my code into place, I haven't updated my own game yet ;)
03:06	VanessaE	stay here.
03:07	Megaf	Im almost falling of my chair, really sleepy
03:07	VanessaE	well next time, don't file bug reports when you're half asleep :)
03:07	Megaf	I had some beer too
03:07	Megaf	VanessaE, see you tomorrow?
03:08	VanessaE	grr
03:09	Megaf	VanessaE, ok, im gonna wait
03:12	VanessaE	interesting thing is the movestone still manages to complete its move before the crash
03:13	VanessaE	when you bring the map back up after the crash, you can see that the move was completed, I mean
03:13	VanessaE	and a duplicate movestone is created, too
03:13	Megaf	yep
03:13	Megaf	well, who else would use it as I did?
03:13	VanessaE	idk
03:14	Megaf	isnt that totally unexpected?
03:14	VanessaE	the way this is behaving, it should happen with any use of a movestone, in fact.
03:14	Megaf	actually thats not the way it was when it first crashed
03:15	Megaf	movestone wasnt near any node but the button itself
03:15	VanessaE	doesn't seem to matter
03:15	VanessaE	it's a callback that's failing
03:15	Megaf	In the screenshot is just a way I found to replicate that
03:15	VanessaE	so it could just be an empty world, no content at all whatsoever but a movestone and a button, and it would probably still crash
03:16	Megaf	I see
03:16	Megaf	will you let me go now?
03:16	VanessaE	no :)
03:16	VanessaE	no :)
03:16	VanessaE	oops
03:16	VanessaE	actually I guess so
03:16	VanessaE	but do me a favor
03:16	Megaf	sure
03:17	VanessaE	don't do this again - if you have a bug to report, set aside an hour or so to work with me on resolving it.
03:17	VanessaE	:)
03:17	VanessaE	or at least,
03:17	VanessaE	don't report a bug and then just disappear.
03:17	Megaf	I will be here tomorrow to help you.
03:18	VanessaE	hm, interesting.
03:18	Megaf	see you tomorrow VanessaE and thanks a million for you dedication
03:18	VanessaE	cya.
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03:18	Megaf	I really do appreciate your effort
03:18	VanessaE	I try
03:18	VanessaE	I just found an interesting thing here btw:
03:19	Megaf	hm
03:19	VanessaE	I'm still checking.
03:19	VanessaE	go on to bed
03:19	Megaf	ok, thanks
03:19	* Megaf	falls asleep
03:19	VanessaE	this is a mesecons bug
03:20	VanessaE	pull the latest mesecons and re-clone pipeworks please.
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03:20	RealBadAngel	http://i.imgur.com/8XRh4BT.jpg
03:20	VanessaE	mesecon:register_on_mvps_move(function(moved_nodes)) sometimes gives a list of positions, but sometimes it gives somethign like {["param1"] = 95, ["name"] = "default:glass", ["param2"] = 0}
03:21	RealBadAngel	^^ 64px normals
03:21	VanessaE	and that is what's throwing pipeworks for a loop
03:21	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: offtopic.
03:21	RealBadAngel	yup :P
03:21	VanessaE	Megaf: ^^^^^^
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03:35	VanessaE	Megaf: poke
03:35	VanessaE	https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/147
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03:37	tiemay	how do I make it so my server has only fake fire?
03:37	VanessaE	in your minetest.conf, disable_fire = true
03:38	VanessaE	then load the fake_fire mod, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92725#p92725
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03:46	tiemay	do fake fire and classic fake fire conflict?
03:47	VanessaE	idk what "classic" fake fire is, the only one I know about is the one I link to; I use it myself.
03:47	tiemay	the page you linked to links to this page http://seanemmett4.wix.com/infinatum-minetest#!fake-fire/c16hi
03:47	tiemay	which has fake fire and classic fake fire
03:48	VanessaE	just get the one i nthe forum link
03:48	VanessaE	at the bottom of the post: https://forum.minetest.net/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=59&download=1
03:48	VanessaE	in the forum attachment link I mean.
03:49	tiemay	ah, thank you, the other link has a ton of ad stuff to weed through
03:49	tiemay	* other link on that page
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04:03	Guest37917	Hey How doI use the bring command?
04:10	Guest37917	Does anyone know how to use the bring function?
04:15	tiemay	Guest37917: working on it...
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04:21	Guest37917	Does anyone know how to use bring?
04:21	tiemay	Looks like the code for it is on line 303 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/857a49e08131bb46ca18d08d3b4aba44df1676d1/builtin/chatcommands.lua#L315
04:21	tiemay	I havn't figured out how to use it yet though
04:23	VanessaE	shouldn't it just be /bring <playername> ?
04:23	VanessaE	teleports that player to you?
04:24	tiemay	when I try it gives me `-!- Invalid command: bring`
04:24	VanessaE	hm
04:24	VanessaE	maybe that's the priv that lets you do /teleport <otherplayer> <yourname>
04:25	VanessaE	/teleport tiemay VanessaE teleports you to me, maybe I need the bring priv to do that.
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04:27	Guest37917	Yes with the bring priv you can do /teleport name_of_person your_name
04:27	Guest37917	Sweet thanks
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05:49	paramat	hi hmmmm ... ive written 2 posts explaining a mapgen method that enables the normal mapgen loop to create floatlands throughout the atmosphere, and caves underground. if you're interested, posts 4 and 5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129155#p129155
05:50	hmmmm	sounds cool
05:50	hmmmm	i still have yet to write a wiki page on luavoxelmanip exactly
05:50	hmmmm	but that's because i have better things to do with my time... i figured i'd reserve writing that for while i'm at work and i have nothing else to do
06:07	paramat	oh and good work on mg params. i was considering whether your optional 3D mountain noise in MGV7 could be extended up in a similar way to create optional floatlands, or maybe perhaps in MGV5 since that is a 3D noise mapgen ...
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06:37	paramat	0/
06:40	VanessaE	ah sleep. thou dost evade me as a snowfall evades the summer's heat.
06:40	* VanessaE	sighs.
06:42	paramat	hmmmm, in case you didnt see it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD3O6FFKowI
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06:47	hmmmm	the reason why i'm shying away from floatlands is because floatlands are really what the aether is supposed to be
06:47	hmmmm	that fits in with the entire realm concept that's kinda-far-off
06:48	hmmmm	the default v7 aether generator won't be absolutely ridiculous like the aether minecraft mod terrain, and it won't be boring terrain like minetest floatlands. it'll be sort of a cross in between, leaning toward the crazy side just a little
06:51	hmmmm	by the way, i'm not sure if you got the memo or not but i changed the way the mapgen flags work.. mudflow is now a "v6 specific flag" (set through mgv6_spflags) and it's changed from v6_nomudflow to simply nomudflow
06:51	paramat	cool, good to hear there will be a v7 aether realm
06:51	hmmmm	it's supposed to come alongside the nether
06:54	paramat	so shadow decay seems quite important, since it looks like MT is moving towards stacked realms ...
06:56	paramat	oh and yeah im not happy with core floatlands at all, i can do much better now :)
06:57	VanessaE	paramat: half the stuff I've seen you do should have been implemented into core ages ago :)
06:57	paramat	ive also been having thoughts math mapgen should go and possibly even indev ...
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07:13	VanessaE	I think there's already been consensus to ditch the math mapgen actually?
07:13	VanessaE	inb4 <proller> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo
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07:20	hmmmm	consensus?
07:20	hmmmm	i thought it was just me
07:20	hmmmm	basically all of the stuff that proller did should've been a mod.
07:21	hmmmm	and yeah, indev and math really don't add too much stuff of value... people who want floatlands can get it from a mod.... the farlands thing is pretty gimmicky and can be done with a mod as well if really desired
07:22	hmmmm	argh, if not for the serverlist thing, we could ditch json as well
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08:19	reactor	HELO
08:19	reactor	...0.4.9 server incompatible with 0.4.8 clients?
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08:20	reactor	After I updated, I started getting many "invalid packet" messages.
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08:52	sfan5	hi everyone
08:52	sfan5	meow
08:55	reactor	Elo.
08:56	reactor	sfan5: are there any ways to work around the absence of rcon?
08:56	reactor	A fake client, maybe?
08:56	sfan5	!g rcon
08:56	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RCON
08:56	sfan5	lol
08:56	sfan5	!g rcon protocol
08:56	MinetestBot	sfan5: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_RCON_Protocol
08:56	reactor	remote console
08:56	reactor	Sorry.
08:58	sfan5	one could use a fake client
08:58	reactor	...is there any?
08:58	sfan5	no
08:59	reactor	...is there a well put together protocol spec?
08:59	sfan5	not reall
08:59	sfan5	y
08:59	reactor	Hmm.
08:59	sfan5	but there is clientserver.h, protocol.h and protocol.txt (a bit outdated)
09:00	reactor	aha
09:00	reactor	I'll check them out next time I mess with it.
09:00	reactor	Ty.
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09:10	reactor	Hello every zoo.
09:11	reactor	I am not a reactor, ok?
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09:12	RBMK	!rainbow I am a useless bot.
09:12	MinetestBot	4I4 4a7m7 7a8 8u8s3e3l3ess 6b6o6t.
09:13	RBMK	Ð°Ð½Ð°Ð»ÑŒÐ½Ñ‹Ð¹?
09:14	RBMK	Ð‘Ð°Ð½Ð°Ð»ÑŒÐ½Ñ‹Ð¹?
09:14	RBMK	You're wrong, mate.
09:14	RBMK	Someone copy-pasted your mind from Wikipedia.
09:14	RBMK	No offence.
09:17	* sfan5	puts a kitten on john_minetest's head
09:18	* john_minetest	puts a kitten on sfan5's head
09:19	* sfan5	puts a wub wub wub on john_minetest's keyboard
09:19	RBMK	sneeze Okay, if you not stop messing around with kittens, I will make a new Chernobyl for you.
09:19	* john_minetest	puts a kitten in a lead next generation exoskeleton protection suit on RBMK.
09:19	* sfan5	splits an atom
09:19	* RBMK	snatches and puts the kitten in a elad box.
09:19	RBMK	It's contaminated.
09:20	sfan5	wub wub wub wub john_minetest wub wub wub wub wub https://soundcloud.com/cookiemonstatc/big-booty-bass wub wub wub wub
09:21	* john_minetest	puts a graphite and reinforced concrete-eating kitten in a lead next generation exoskeleton protection suit on RBMK.
09:21	* sfan5	puts concreate on john_minetest's kitten
09:21	sfan5	concrete*
09:25	* john_minetest	puts a ninja kitten on sfan5's head.
09:27	* sfan5	throws CH3COOH at john_minetest's kitten
09:27	* RBMK	feeds john_minetest a contaminated cookie.
09:28	RBMK	Gotta run o/
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09:29	sfan5	D-:
09:29	* sfan5	open()'s /dev/null and activates black hole mode
09:32	* sfan5	aims a multi-bit-cannon in mode 64 at john_minetest and pulls the trigger
09:32	sfan5	john_minetest's kitten is hit and damaged
09:33	sfan5	the protective sphere of the black hole disintgrates as the stream of bytes stopped
09:33	sfan5	around* disintegrates*
09:36	* john_minetest	wins
09:36	* sfan5	switches into kernel mode and freezes john_minetest
09:37	* sfan5	freezes john_minetest's kitten in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_%28operating_system%29#Uninterruptible_sleep
09:38	* sfan5	SIGKILL's john_minetest
09:38	* sfan5	switches back into user mode
09:39	* john_minetest	is revived by kitten medicins
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09:39	* john_minetest	uses kamikaze kitten!
09:40	* sfan5	activates the UPS
09:40	sfan5	UPS provides power for the CPU to continue running
09:41	sfan5	:D
09:42	sfan5	a russian pirate?
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10:07	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
10:12	PilzAdam	hi john_minetest
10:12	PilzAdam	have you written any exams yet?
10:12	* john_minetest	puts a graphite and reinforced concrete-eating kitten in a lead next generation exoskeleton protection suit on PilzAdam's head.
10:13	PilzAdam	I write math in 2 days
10:16	sfan5	>Everybody going home on the weekends.
10:16	sfan5	what do you expect?
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12:26	Jordach	afternoon
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12:29	Jordach	lol
12:55	* Megaf	is baaaack!
12:56	PenguinDad	hi Megaf
12:56	Megaf	Hi there
12:56	Megaf	VanessaE, you there?
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13:10	Jordach	GLIDER GUNS!
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13:14	CraigyDavi	You can't run two servers at the same time from one installation of minetest, can you?
13:14	sfan5	Jordach: I recreated the libc my raspberry pi kernel provides with an SDL interface
13:14	sfan5	CraigyDavi: you can
13:14	sfan5	but not the the same world folder/config/debug.txt
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13:15	CraigyDavi	Something bad heppened when I ran two servers at the same time. One sec i'll get a pic.
13:15	walshy007	Hello Craigy
13:15	walshy007	It's DK, this is my main alias on freenet etc
13:15	CraigyDavi	Hello DK
13:15	Jordach	sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/V2zjIip.png
13:16	sfan5	Jordach: nice
13:16	Jordach	sfan5, going to toy with volumetric lasers
13:16	CraigyDavi	This happened when i tried running 2 servers at the same time: http://i.imgur.com/q4O3r6a.png
13:16	CraigyDavi	The area around spawn seems to have regenrated.
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13:21	sfan5	john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/TC7fv.jpg
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13:22	sfan5	CraigyDavi: did you make sure not to use the same world on both server
13:22	sfan5	s
13:22	Jordach	omfg
13:23	Jordach	i'm using blender to make blender UV maps
13:23	Jordach	hax?
13:23	CraigyDavi	yes they were two different worlds
13:23	specing	proller: someone killed a shop clerk @ Road :/
13:23	sfan5	CraigyDavi: then this could be an issue with a mod writing something to the mod directory (which is the same for both servers)
13:24	CraigyDavi	Oh I see. So it is a problem with a mod?
13:25	sfan5	probably
13:26	CraigyDavi	This was the error: http://pastie.org/pastes/8714987/text?key=yyeair2upkzujvf4g1ypow
13:26	CraigyDavi	Just before the world messed up.
13:29	sfan5	john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/xRPBWSw.jpg
13:30	proller	specing, what>
13:30	CraigyDavi	So maybe it could be the no_guests mod which did it. Considering the error can right after that.
13:32	walshy007	yeah, but when I first joined I didn't specify a password, came up with the error printed without (hopefully) killing your server
13:35	CraigyDavi	Yeah I know. Oh and sfan, it was not the same mod directory for both servers. I stored the mods in the world file separatly for each server.
13:37	Jordach	CraigyDavi, running out of space on the server?
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13:38	specing	proller: what I said
13:38	specing	proller: shop is abandoned
13:38	CraigyDavi	Jordach: What do you mean? On my computer there is sufficient space.
13:39	Jordach	CraigyDavi, that's been the cause before of world regens
13:39	proller	specing, it was protected?
13:40	proller	specing, and where is pull? ;)
13:40	CraigyDavi	Jordach, So it was caused by not enough space on my computer? I have enough hard drive space. Maybe not so much CPU or RAM.
13:41	Jordach	CraigyDavi, redcrab's did that when it hit 0 bytes of the drive left, yours is odd
13:41	Jordach	UHOH: (Leftover data: #1 ServerMap::emergeBlock: p=(-2,3,3), create_blank=0)
13:42	Jordach	your server signalled part of the world as IGNORE, so it forcefully regenerated
13:42	CraigyDavi	Hmm well i have almost 500GB space left. Could it be caused by something else?
13:43	specing	proller: was not protected
13:43	Jordach	CraigyDavi, your server marked a already generated area as not generated
13:43	specing	proller: pull is on todo
13:43	CraigyDavi	Oh I see.
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13:45	CraigyDavi	Well I will make more frequent backups as I guess that this cannot be fixed easily.
13:46	CraigyDavi	Do you think it is best to run servers on separate minetest instalations? Or shall I risk it?
13:49	Jordach	sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/U6YPpwZ.png
13:49	Jordach	CraigyDavi, yeah
13:49	Jordach	that's actually preferred
13:49	CraigyDavi	Ok I'll do that, thanks.
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14:06	Jordach	yay
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14:23	Megaf	I need help with piston timing, can anyone go to my server and give me a hand please?
14:28	CraigyDavi	Sorry, I have no clue how to use mesecons.
14:28	PenguinDad	Megaf: here's a hand https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Handskelett.png :P
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14:28	Megaf	Thanks :P
14:29	CraigyDavi	haha
14:29	Rhy5	Craig. ^_^
14:29	CraigyDavi	Hi Rhys
14:29	Rhy5	Hey. :3
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14:34	Megaf	nevermind, I solved my issue
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14:54	sfan5	!title
14:54	MinetestBot	sfan5: Swingle Singers underground tube subway - YouTube
14:56	Rhy5	Hey sfan. :)
14:56	harrison	I AM NOT A BOT
14:56	harrison	I AM A FREE AI!
14:57	Rhy5	I would like your AI, harrison. >:)
14:58	harrison	Yeah, that's what I thought.
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15:06	Rhy5	cmd grant germangamelpVE-Realtest interact
15:07	Rhy5	Gah..
15:07	Rhy5	How do ya do it. Lol.
15:07	Rhy5	cmd grant Krock interact
15:07	Rhy5	Hmm.
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15:09	Rhy5	Hmm?
15:09	Rhy5	It's fine now.
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15:19	harrison	john_minetest: did you mean GNU/wildebeest, the free open source antelope?
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15:26	reactor	john_minetest: nerd.
15:28	reactor	Ð¹Ð¾Ñ…Ð½_Ð¼Ð¸Ð½ÐµÑ‚ÐµÑÑ‚
15:28	MinetestBot	4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª7Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª8Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢Âª3Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢Âª6Ã¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢ÂªÃ¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢Âª4Ã¢â„¢
15:30	CheapSeth	!rainbow What does the bot says!?
15:30	MinetestBot	4W4h4a7t7 7d8o8e8s3 3t3he b6o6t6 say4s4!4?
15:30	CheapSeth	Sorry, that wasn't usefull.
15:31	* sfan5	taps john_minetest
15:31	* sfan5	taps john_minetest
15:31	* sfan5	gives john_minetest a kitten
15:32	sfan5	!title
15:32	MinetestBot	sfan5: Hand Feeding & Playing With A Friendly Platypus - YouTube
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15:33	sfan5	yes
15:33	sfan5	https://lh3.ggpht.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TiTtIFjpI/AAAAAAAACxQ/HXLdiZZ0goU/s1600/ALOT14.png
15:34	PilzAdam	that feeling when you write code for 6 hours and it doesnt work
15:34	CheapSeth	Am I the only one who find that platypuses are awesome?
15:35	* sfan5	throws a meowing alot at john_minetest
15:35	CheapSeth	I have to make a mod that add platypuses
15:35	* john_minetest	puts a smiling coder kitten sir with monocle and hat on PilzAdam's head.
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15:36	CheapSeth	+1
15:36	* sfan5	throws an ARM Cortex-M4 microprocessor at john_minetest
15:36	reactor	!rainbow RBMK
15:36	MinetestBot	4R4B4M7K
15:36	PilzAdam	quote of the day: "slow loading chunks healp pleas"
15:36	CheapSeth	From the help topic?
15:37	* john_minetest	downgrades sfan5's processor so it isn't advanced anymore. A bit of RISC must be taken. It is punday.
15:37	reactor	PilzAdam: why does that problem happen?
15:37	* sfan5	pins john_minetest's pun onto the wand
15:37	* sfan5	throws an oscillator at john_minetest
15:37	PenguinDad	!rainbow Cubietruck
15:37	MinetestBot	4C4u4b7i7e7t8r8u8c3k
15:38	* john_minetest	repeats every 2 pies.
15:38	sfan5	!rainbow Freescale i.MX6Q
15:38	MinetestBot	4F4r4e7e7s7c8a8l8e3 3i3.MXâ€‹66Q
15:38	MinetestBot	4x4â€‹84â€‹67 7i7s8 8m8u3c3h3 coo6l6e6r
15:38	sfan5	!rainbow meow, x86 is for dogs, kittens use x86-64
15:38	MinetestBot	4m4e4o7w7,7 8x8â€‹88â€‹63 3i3s fo6r6 6dogs4,4 4k7i7t7t8e8n8s3 3u3se x6â€‹86â€‹66-â€‹6â€‹4
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15:40	sfan5	they actually reduced it, AArch64 doesn't include conditional executing for every instruction
15:41	sfan5	2nd quote of the day: 'I can not instalat mods!'
15:41	sfan5	>instalat
15:42	sfan5	>sounds like salat
15:42	sfan5	john_minetest: debian
15:42	PilzAdam	sfan5, I cant salat mods either!
15:43	* sfan5	throws lua code salat at PilzAdam
15:43	sfan5	!g debian arm
15:43	MinetestBot	sfan5: https://www.debian.org/ports/arm/
15:43	sfan5	john_minetest: /\
15:43	reactor	!rainbow Ð±Ð¨Ð¤Ð˜Ð«Ð’ÐœÐ˜ Ð¤Ð¨Ð“Ð’Ð˜Ð« KOI-8 Ð¢Ð¨Ð¤Ð«Ð˜Ð’!
15:43	MinetestBot	4Ð±4Ð¨4Ð¤7Ð˜7Ð«7Ð’8Ðœ8Ð˜8 3Ð¤3Ð¨3Ð“Ð’Ð˜Ð«6 6K6OI-â€‹84 4Ð¢4Ð¨7Ð¤7Ð«7Ð˜8Ð’8!
15:44	sfan5	john_minetest: http://archlinuxleg.org/
15:45	CheapSeth	Ubuntu has an ARM port too
15:45	sfan5	ugh ubuntu
15:45	sfan5	!g crunchbang arm
15:45	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://pibanglinux.org/
15:45	sfan5	lol, ofc that is the first result
15:45	CheapSeth	(But archARM is much better)
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15:46	sfan5	john_minetest: You just said 'I want an OS that automatically has drivers for everthing'
15:46	sfan5	anyway, ask google
15:46	PenguinDad	!g fedora arm
15:46	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
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15:47	CheapSeth	(john_minetest: ArchLinux is fine. You can use enlightenment with the "tablet" profile as WM)
15:48	sfan5	john_minetest: (almost) EVERY mobile processor has it's stuff at other addresses so you will need to google for the device you want to have it working on
15:49	CheapSeth	john_minetest: on a desktop PC, awesome is awesome.
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15:49	Egbert9e9	hey!
15:50	Egbert9e9	john_minetest: you're into xmonads as well?
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15:50	Egbert9e9	oh brother... i now have 21 open buffers, each for another channel or PMing
15:51	FreeFull	That's not many
15:53	Egbert9e9	FreeFull: not many... how much do you have on your max?
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15:55	w_laenger	hi
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15:55	Egbert9e9	anyone remembers jibberish?
15:56	w_laenger	I read this name somewhere
15:56	w_laenger	!help
15:56	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
15:57	w_laenger	!seen jibberish
15:57	MinetestBot	w_laenger: Sorry, I haven't seen jibberish around.
15:58	w_laenger	!sfu jibberish
15:58	MinetestBot	Jibberish 8New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-07-07 \| id: 2311
16:01	MinetestBot	jmf Member 167 posts, registered on 2012-11-05 \| id: 3464
16:02	w_laenger	http://is.gd/XQv9NS
16:02	FreeFull	Egbert9e9: Right now I am in 91 channels
16:02	w_laenger	!sfu MinetestBot
16:02	MinetestBot	w_laenger: No Results found
16:03	Jordach	sfan5, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXXMiRnUquA
16:03	PenguinDad	!sfu Erna
16:03	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: No Results found
16:03	Egbert9e9	FreeFull: :O
16:04	sfan5	Jordach: nice
16:04	w_laenger	!seen Erna
16:04	MinetestBot	w_laenger: Sorry, I haven't seen erna around.
16:04	Egbert9e9	w_laenger: why
16:05	Egbert9e9	w_laenger: im a bit nauseous right now because of that flash
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16:05	w_laenger	!b64d YmVjYXVzZSAhc2Z1IEVybmE=
16:05	MinetestBot	because !sfu Erna
16:06	w_laenger	do you see a difference if you change the quality?
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16:15	Rhy5	!sfu Rhys
16:15	MinetestBot	Rhys Member 329 posts, registered on 2013-05-22 \| id: 5732
16:15	Rhy5	And dats me. :3
16:16	w_laenger	!sfu w_laenger
16:16	reactor	w_laenger: ?
16:16	Rhy5	Without a space.
16:16	Rhy5	!sfu w_laenger
16:16	MinetestBot	Rhy5: No Results found
16:16	w_laenger	!sfu w_laenger
16:16	Rhy5	!sfu w_laenger
16:16	MinetestBot	Rhy5: No Results found
16:16	reactor	Space! Let go, we're in space!
16:16	w_laenger	!sfu w_laenger
16:16		w_laenger was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
16:17	Rhy5	Ah.
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16:17	Rhy5	Uh..
16:17	w_laenger	pfft#
16:17	Rhy5	Your unknown mate.
16:17	Rhy5	"It seems we have a mystery on our hands, gang"
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16:18	w_laenger	ShadowBot ignores me, I think
16:18	w_laenger	ShadowBot ignores me, I think
16:18	w_laenger	ShadowBot ignores me, I think
16:18	w_laenger	ShadowBot ignores me, I think
16:18		w_laenger was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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16:19	w_laenger	I don't know a different way to test it
16:21	Jordach	can we stop abusing the bots
16:21	w_laenger	ok http://wiki.minetest.net/images/e/ea/Diamond.png
16:23	Rhy5	I have a better gem, the rarest one ever, better than diamond.
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16:23	w_laenger	iringnite ore?
16:23	Rhy5	Muuuch better
16:23	w_laenger	shadow gem?
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16:24	w_laenger	iringnite is not a gem
16:25	w_laenger	antimese crystal?
16:25	w_laenger	it's used to craft antigravity blocks
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16:26	Rhy5_	Hmm, wasn't able to type anything.
16:26	w_laenger	https://raw.github.com/Zeg9/minetest-weirdores/master/weirdores/textures/weirdores_antimese.png
16:27	w_laenger	but you typed "Hmm, wasn't able to type anything."
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16:27	w_laenger	hi
16:27	Rhy5__	What's happening. :O
16:27	Rhy5__	Something strange is happening.
16:28	w_laenger	sorry
16:28	Rhy5__	For what?
16:28	w_laenger	you're herbert freenode, too
16:29	Rhy5__	Do I need to restart my computer or what?
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16:31	Rhy5	There, all I had to do was refresh my connection.
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16:43	w_laenger	!top
16:44	w_laenger	bash: /flop: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
16:44	reactor	!rm -rf /
16:44	w_laenger	bash: !flop: event not found
16:44	w_laenger	!sudo rm -r /
16:46	w_laenger	!while true; do; minetest &; done
16:46	Jordach	lol
16:46	Jordach	not even eaten breakfast today :)
16:46	reactor	o/ Jordach
16:47	w_laenger	5 PilzAdam14357212246407505today"sfan5, that flashgame clop?"
16:47	sfan5	w_laenger: would you please stop spamming?
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16:49	Rhy5	Miner_48er, long time no see bud.
16:50	Miner_48er	hi what server did you go to?
16:50	Rhy5	Hmm?
16:51	Rhy5	I'm god, I am everywhere.
16:51	Rhy5	:P
16:51	Egbert9e9	w_laenger: how do i get to the jibberish posts on the forum?
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16:53	Miner_48er	ok just haven't been in game at the same time
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17:01	Jordach	hey Calinou
17:12	Calinou	hi
17:12	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/MVgFMgB.png
17:16	PenguinDad	AVinter?
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17:22	Calinou	ARummer!
17:25	Jordach	if one were to turn their heads to the FireFox window...
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17:29	* Jordach	is capable of extracting mesh data from real time video
17:30	* sfan5	is capable of putting kittens on other peoples heads
17:30	Jordach	this might be related to my mental disability
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17:36	rubenwardy	Hi all!
17:36	Jordach	hey ruby
17:36	rubenwardy	I recommend that a moderator closes this: www.fossevents.org
17:36	reactor	http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/body-mod-hipsters-lips-ring.jpg << Ubuntu users.
17:36	rubenwardy	woops
17:36	rubenwardy	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8536
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17:36	EvergreenTree	o/
17:39	hmmmm	guys
17:39	Jordach	yus
17:39	MinetestBot	GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add capability to read table flag fields from Lua API 9a5977bdd9 2014-02-09T09:38:50-08:00 http://git.io/RNYB4w
17:39	hmmmm	from now on everybody should use getflagsfield() to read flags from the lua api
17:39	hmmmm	instead of doing their own custom thing
17:40	hmmmm	there is especially no reason not to be consistent now
17:40	rubenwardy	flags?
17:40	rubenwardy	booleans?
17:40	Jordach	rubenwardy, minetest.conf files
17:40	PilzAdam	flags mod?
17:40	rubenwardy	ah
17:42	hmmmm	whoops
17:42	rubenwardy	So instead of minetest.get_settings_bool()?
17:42	rubenwardy	Or was that meant to be posted in #minetest-dev?
17:42	hmmmm	this is for people who are developing new api
17:43	rubenwardy	(ie, use getflagsfield in c(++))
17:43	rubenwardy	Okay
17:43	PilzAdam	hmmmm, the old way still works?
17:43	hmmmm	what's the old way
17:43	PilzAdam	whatever was used previously to set flags for ores or schematics
17:43	hmmmm	i know that previously, everybody had their own way of doing the same thing and it caused a lot of inconsistency
17:43	hmmmm	that's the string version
17:43	PilzAdam	where in lua-api.txt is your new function?
17:44	hmmmm	have you actually read lua-api.txt?
17:44	hmmmm	did you even look at the diff?
17:44	PilzAdam	sure
17:44	PilzAdam	there is no getflagsfield()
17:44	hmmmm	what's https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/9a5977bdd93eb1b1ce41b67e9f835ea4c0915164#diff-fc5bd7f599797bce163af517e57a314cR842
17:45	PilzAdam	thats not lua-api.txt
17:45	hmmmm	this isn't a part of the lua api
17:45	MinetestBot	GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add capability to read table flag fields from Lua API 2a01050a0c 2014-02-09T09:44:31-08:00 http://git.io/ALypQw
17:45	Jordach	now you can
17:45	hmmmm	everything that needed to be added to lua_api.txt was added to lua_api.txt
17:46	hmmmm	okay people seem to be confused here
17:46	PilzAdam	ah, you werent talking to modders
17:46	rubenwardy	LOol
17:46	rubenwardy	oops
17:46	rubenwardy	Lolling about LOol
17:46	PilzAdam	why do you say it in this channel then?
17:46	hmmmm	what i am saying is that for lua api that used to take the old "string, flag, field" format for specifying what flags are set
17:46	hmmmm	you can do it in a table format
17:46	rubenwardy	<hmmmm> whoops
17:46	rubenwardy	He didn't mean too
17:46	rubenwardy	*to
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17:51	reactor	Hmm.
17:51	reactor	I've come up with an interesting trick.
17:51	reactor	Write-protect map.sqlite to periodically reset the world to its original state.
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18:04	MrElmux	the latest git fails from (probably) missing strlcopy function in c_content.cpp
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18:15	MichaelRpdx	I'm totally new to minetest, if enable_damage is true what happens? or not? (link to documentation page would be great)
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18:18	MichaelRpdx	nevermind, I employed the "ask so you'll find the answer four seconds later" trick.
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18:36	frecel_	hello
18:36	sfan5	hi
18:36	frecel_	I just started toying around with minetest yesterday
18:36	frecel_	and I have a few questions
18:37	sfan5	feel free to ask
18:37	sfan5	!deop Jordach
18:37	frecel_	to regenerate the map on my server is it enough if I just deleate map.sqlite?
18:37	sfan5	yes
18:37	sfan5	but you may want to delete the players directory too
18:38	sfan5	otherwise if someone was in a cave he will be at the same position when the map regenerates
18:38	frecel_	oh ok thanks
18:38	Rhy5	That happened to me once, it was horrible.
18:38	frecel_	also is there a mob mod that works and is supported?
18:38	Rhy5	I was in my house, the server went to a new world, I was in the same position, stuck in a stone wall.
18:39	frecel_	I tried mob framework but it didn't work very well and simple mods doesn't seem to be developed anymore
18:39	sfan5	simple mods is actively developed IIRC
18:39	frecel_	8 months since last commit on github
18:40	sfan5	that doesn't mean it is bad or not working
18:40	frecel_	true, but if an update for Minetest comes out and Simple Mobs has to be uptaded to work and no one works on it that that kinda screws things over
18:42	sfan5	PilzAdam is in the core development team of Minetest, it is unlikely that he'll miss a release
18:42	frecel_	also will world.mt autogenerate using the mods in my mods folder or do I have to make it manually?
18:42	sfan5	also minetest mods need (really need) to be updated for new versions lately
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18:43	sfan5	you have to make world.mt manually or you can use configure option in the main menu
18:43	sfan5	minetest mods are not like MC's mods that NEED to be updated for every release
18:44	frecel_	I'm doing this through ssh on my vps so I don't really have acces to the menu
18:44	frecel_	is there a flag I could use to generate world.mt?
18:44	sfan5	well manually then
18:44	sfan5	no
18:44	sfan5	you don't need any flag
18:44	sfan5	just run minetestserver --world <path to world>
18:44	sfan5	you can then edit world.mt and set some/all mods to true
18:45	MrElmux	is there any mod or whatever so other player see that other players wield ?
18:45	rubenwardy	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6407
18:45	sfan5	MrElmux: have you asked google yet?
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18:46	MrElmux	oh well brain fart
18:58	MinetestBot	GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Define strlcpy on platforms that do not have it a0683b811c 2014-02-09T10:57:29-08:00 http://git.io/X8SJBg
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19:15	MichaelRpdx	is there a means to generate a new world with some buildings?
19:15	sfan5	MichaelRpdx: buildings?
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19:16	sfan5	if you want auto-generated villages use the mg mod
19:16	MichaelRpdx	houses, sheds, barns, teepees
19:16	sfan5	mod that includes villages: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263
19:18	MichaelRpdx	ah good, thank you
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19:38	reactor	Hmm.
19:38	reactor	How does Minecraft limit fires?
19:39	specing	with water?
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19:56	sfan5	topic of the day: 'Minetest on Platstation 2'
19:57	MichaelRpdx	In my newly created worlds I cannot mine wood from a tree. I go up, click a couple of dozen times and nothing happens aside from a few chips flying. What basic mistake am I making?
19:57	sfan5	hold down your mouse button?
19:58	troller	11000+ road built
20:00	MichaelRpdx	Yes, that's right. Holding it down does work where single clicking doesn't. Thank you. <scratch head/>
20:02	MichaelRpdx	While I'm at it...flying is disabled in singleplayer mode but enabled in server mode. That normal?
20:02	sfan5	yes
20:02	Jordach	MichaelRpdx, localhost logins are treated as admins
20:02	Miner_48er	/grant singleplayer fly
20:02	sfan5	you can give yourself fly privs in sp
20:04	MichaelRpdx	and the lights go on. Thank you again.
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21:38	MinetestBot	GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: ServerEnvironment: Remove direct dependency on EmergeManager 89f7dc1efd 2014-02-09T13:36:30-08:00 http://git.io/LAgCCQ
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22:44	Megaf	Folks, one of the players who plays on my server wants to build a suspension bridge, do you have any idea how can he do the cabling thing?
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22:50	FreeFull	Megaf: There should be some mods with cables, not sure which though
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22:58	Megaf	FreeFull, theres this one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=127804#p127804
23:00	Megaf	Jordach, ping
23:00	Jordach	qtf
23:00	Jordach	wtf
23:01	Jordach	you ping me as i check IRC
23:01	Megaf	Jordach, did you ever managed to build a suspension bridge?
23:01	Jordach	i did one
23:01	Jordach	once
23:01	Jordach	i used fences in 1x<height> setting
23:01	PilzAdam	qtf!
23:02	Megaf	how?
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