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EvergreenTree |
!ydobyreve olleh |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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Enke |
o/ |
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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
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ShadowNinja |
~reverse <last --from EvergreenTree --with !> |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: hello everybody! |
| 01:55 |
ShadowNinja |
:-D |
| 01:56 |
EvergreenTree |
ShadowBot, y u so awesome |
| 01:57 |
Enke |
'cuz it's ShadowBot! |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
this guy is dope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERH-QA1L2Qs |
| 01:58 |
EvergreenTree |
!title |
| 01:58 |
MinetestBot |
EvergreenTree: Vegan Rap -- No Wrapping The Dead - YouTube |
| 01:59 |
cornernote |
clever title |
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cornernote |
hey NekoGloop |
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VanessaE |
hey cn |
| 02:00 |
cornernote |
hey V |
| 02:00 |
cornernote |
hows things ? |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
pretty good, all things considered |
| 02:00 |
cornernote |
if not, simply dont consider all things =) |
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Megaf_ |
Hi? |
| 02:01 |
cornernote |
hey Megaf |
| 02:02 |
Megaf_ |
Hi cornernote, how are things? |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
going awesome |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
i got my onda board yesterday |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
sooo fun |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx6CFSQc3M4 |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
EvergreenTree, no !title on it ? |
| 02:04 |
EvergreenTree |
fine |
| 02:04 |
Megaf_ |
cornernote, I wish I could say the same, but things could be better here =/ |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
i have a longboard |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
like a real one, made of wood with skateboard wheels |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
only been riding a cpl of weeks |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
the onda board is very different to ride |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
a lot less stable until you get used to it |
| 02:05 |
Megaf_ |
bigger wheels |
| 02:05 |
Megaf_ |
VanessaE, ping |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
it turns so sharp |
| 02:06 |
Megaf_ |
cornernote, I'm a bike guy |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
and if you're going fast, and you lose a little balance then you end up on your ass |
| 02:06 |
Megaf_ |
either mountain and road |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
yeah, i used to love my bmx |
| 02:06 |
Megaf_ |
unfortunately my road bike is wrecked, fucking drivers |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
but now it sits in the shed... too much effort to go bike riding compared to boarding |
| 02:07 |
cornernote |
what happened ? |
| 02:07 |
Megaf_ |
a woman didnt know what a stop sign meant |
| 02:07 |
Megaf_ |
I crashed my bike into her car at 65 Km/h |
| 02:07 |
Megaf_ |
Broke her windshield with my head |
| 02:08 |
Megaf_ |
fortunately I was wearing a helmet and I was almost not injured |
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VanessaE |
pong |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
I'm glad you're okay, Megaf_ |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
that's not exactly what I'd call a slow impact |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
that's enough to kill |
| 02:11 |
Megaf_ |
VanessaE, Yes it is more than enough |
| 02:12 |
Megaf_ |
well, but that was a couple of years ago |
| 02:12 |
Megaf_ |
VanessaE, good to see you, something terrible happened to my server |
| 02:16 |
cornernote |
> Broke her windshield with my head |
| 02:16 |
cornernote |
ouch ! |
| 02:16 |
cornernote |
yeah, helmets are good |
| 02:16 |
cornernote |
i have to wear one as a good parental guide to my kids |
| 02:16 |
cornernote |
but now im getting more into it, i wear it even if nobodys around |
| 02:17 |
cornernote |
i figure that i kinda need my head |
| 02:17 |
cornernote |
its a somewhat useful part of my being |
| 02:18 |
cornernote |
humble weekly bundle this week is AWESOME! - https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly |
| 02:20 |
Megaf_ |
cornernote, yep, my helmet broke too, but that's what it's made for |
| 02:26 |
Megaf_ |
!seen Gronx |
| 02:26 |
Megaf_ |
MinetestBot, are you there? |
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cornernote |
yeah, my $30 helmet is cheaper to replace than a head |
| 02:28 |
ShadowNinja |
~seen Gronx |
| 02:28 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: I haven't seen Gronx in #minetest. |
| 02:29 |
Megaf_ |
~seen gronx |
| 02:29 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf_: I haven't seen gronx in #minetest. |
| 02:29 |
Megaf_ |
liar |
| 02:29 |
Megaf_ |
.seen gronx |
| 02:30 |
Megaf_ |
also, I thought that I had my server backed up, as there was a folder called backup, but today I went and see what there was inside and I saw no worlds folder! So my server is gone forever! =/ |
| 02:30 |
Megaf_ |
today is a sad day |
| 02:34 |
Sokomine |
Megaf_: indeed. perhaps you're lucky and someone did a local copy of your world (or at least of part of it) |
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Megaf_ |
does inventory_plus has a good crafting guide? |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
use unified inventory |
| 02:46 |
Peacock |
use moreunifiedinventoryplus, it has chocolate-chip cookies XD |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 02:48 |
Peacock |
happy to help :D |
| 03:06 |
* Sokomine |
secretly smuggles a cookie past the sign and throws it at peacock :-) |
| 03:08 |
Peacock |
i cant eat cookies right now lol the latest batch of spaghetti sauce had quite a bit of ja-la-pee-nos and my stomach's been in knots since i woke up lol |
| 03:18 |
paramat |
turns out the snowblocks were 'in the ground' instead of 'on the ground', and were replacing the 'dirt_with_snow' below, now fixed |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
eep |
| 03:33 |
paramat |
i think onpon was talking about the guy in the video Peacock, not you ... =) |
| 03:34 |
PapaJacky |
so |
| 03:34 |
PapaJacky |
how is minetest different from regular minecraft |
| 03:34 |
Peacock |
ah well how am i supposed to guess :P he said the same thing about me lol |
| 03:35 |
Enke |
PapaJacky: Open-Source, different language, designed around moddability, usually faster. |
| 03:35 |
Enke |
To name a few. |
| 03:35 |
PapaJacky |
is it still java |
| 03:38 |
Peacock |
either way i fixed it before it spirals into another interminable debate lol |
| 03:38 |
paramat |
yeah it was easy to misunderstand that post, i thought that when i first read it |
| 03:39 |
Peacock |
lol well hoodedice thinks onpons talking about the show host, you and i both thought he was talking about me, so who knows really lol |
| 03:40 |
paramat |
okay so ice is trimmed a little closer to the coastline now, im testing now, however it has a parameter for ice width so you can adjust that |
| 03:41 |
Peacock |
sounds good, maps not gone public yet so we haven't loaded too many islands :-) |
| 03:47 |
Peacock |
though before going live in gonna have to code one of those agree/disagree tos thingies so there's no more confusion about the rules lol |
| 03:47 |
Peacock |
*im |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
PapaJacky: Minetest is written by a totally different team, in C++, not Java. It is entirely unrelated to Minecraft except that the concept is similar. |
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Peacock |
our dev team doesn't code with java, they code with alcohol :P |
| 03:49 |
PapaJacky |
so it's like a copy of minecraft, but in c++ |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
(that is, it's a block-based sandbox world in which you dig, craft, build, and maybe fight monsters in some cases() |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
no, not a copy. |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
totally different game and goals. |
| 03:50 |
PapaJacky |
the art direction looks the same though |
| 03:50 |
PapaJacky |
might want to clear that up |
| 03:50 |
Peacock |
um, yeah kinda a copy lol |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
Minetest is to Minecraft as, say, OpenArena is to Call of Duty |
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| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
same sort of genre, more or less, but differnt art, code, developers, goals, etc/. |
| 03:51 |
Peacock |
i mean if its not the engine copying MC verbatim than some of the present devs wrote mods totally imitating the MC style and gameplay |
| 03:51 |
Peacock |
(see block man and pilsbury's mods) |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
those mods aren't part of the Minetest or minetest_game distributions. |
| 03:52 |
Peacock |
no but those devs are :P so i assume it's somewhat their goal :P |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
you can't count them any more than you can count RedPower2 or IndustrialCraft as being part of Minecraft |
| 03:53 |
Peacock |
like those item drops so many minetestians thought were annoying but were done anyway because that's how its done in mC :P |
| 03:54 |
Peacock |
though it is true 2/3's of the people here aren't interested in producing a 0-cost MC |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
I use that mod for its "magnetic" pickup function, but I don't like the drop-on-dig function at all. irritating. |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
you have to consider something: |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
just because MC does something, doesn't make it a bad idea |
| 03:54 |
Megaf_ |
This gonna be interesting https://paste.debian.net/79404/ |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
and just because something's a good idea but MC does it, doesn't mean we have to avoid it. |
| 03:55 |
Peacock |
true but you can't also claim were totally different in our approach either |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
the ENGINE is totally different in approach |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
modding is a different animal entirely and you know it |
| 03:56 |
Peacock |
i guess it depends on whether specific people have also played MC or not, since I haven't i tend to prefer a fresh approach |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
hell you know that better than anyone |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
I've NEVER played MC |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
so everything I do I approach with a fresh eye |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
the most of MC I've ever seen is from the occasional video |
| 03:56 |
Megaf_ |
I used to be a MC player, and had servers too |
| 03:57 |
Peacock |
me neither, thats why it drives me nuts when people use things like "more minecraft-like" to defend ideas lol |
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| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
I might see something "hm, that looks useful, I might be able to implement that in MT", but I don't recall the last time I actually followed through with that |
| 03:57 |
Megaf_ |
My ex, me and my gf, we all bought and played MC |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
Pipeworks for example, was born out of a desire to rewrite sfan5's oil mod. |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
(sorry sfan5...your pipes were butt ugly ;) ) |
| 03:57 |
Megaf_ |
heh |
| 03:57 |
Megaf_ |
indeed |
| 03:57 |
Peacock |
well that mod is ancient lol |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know |
| 03:57 |
Peacock |
and still broken last i checked |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
but at the time I started working on pipeworks, it wasn't actually all that far outdated |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
now, of course, it's long dead. |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
anyway |
| 03:58 |
Peacock |
though im a bit surprised no one's come out with a moreliquids type mod to go with pipeworks |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
I do all my mods from the perspective of "I'd like this, this and this in Minetest" |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
and so I code it. |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
and I don't usually give two shits if MC has it or not |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: actually I've got a new branch in progress that I hope will be scalable to any liquid you wanna use. |
| 03:59 |
Peacock |
well i told you how to solve that a long time ago :P store the liquid name in the meta |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
that's the plan |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
but first I have to finish the flowing logic rewrite |
| 04:00 |
Peacock |
well that shouldn't take long then :P |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
and I've been lazy |
| 04:01 |
Peacock |
good luck with that, flowing logic will never be perfect, no matter what you go with, someone will come up with a setup that defies logic |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
I got it to the point where it works quite well. picks up water from the pump, balances/equalizes it across the network, and sprays it out a spigot or fountainhead until the pressure drops too low |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
I just haven't finished the other items e.g. valves and such |
| 04:01 |
Peacock |
i can save you a bit of trouble right there: just combine the valves and fountainheads |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
how's that? |
| 04:02 |
Peacock |
well they both do the same thing |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
erm |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
you mean fountains/spigots do... |
| 04:02 |
Peacock |
erm, yeah lol |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
derp :) |
| 04:03 |
Peacock |
too many parts i get mixed up lol |
| 04:03 |
Peacock |
i even got a few different types of valves now |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
actually I'll keep what I got because they work fine as-is |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
the other objects I just haven't coded in yet is all |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
and I don't wanna break old maps |
| 04:03 |
Peacock |
well its also duplication, spigots/fountainheads can be just combined into a spigot that shoots particles in whatever direction, and if its facing down it can also place a full liquid node |
| 04:04 |
Peacock |
though that becomes more obvious when you 6d the whole thing |
| 04:05 |
Peacock |
got the pipes working in 6d yet? that seemed like a huge pain in the ass so i never did it lol just all the other parts |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
oh yes |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
they're fully 6d now |
| 04:10 |
Megaf_ |
sorry, 6d? |
| 04:10 |
Peacock |
that must have cut down on alot of nodes |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
Megaf_: "6d facedir" means a node can be rotated to face any roll, pitch, and yaw (in 90 degree steps) |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: yeah, by something like 600 nodes in total |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
I think, maybe 700 |
| 04:11 |
Peacock |
600? didnt know pipeworks had that many combinations |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
it has lots of different kinds of tubes as well as pipes |
| 04:12 |
ShadowNinja |
Unless you have a negative ammount now... ^ |
| 04:12 |
Peacock |
ah well i never used tubes |
| 04:12 |
Peacock |
nor did i have the on/off variety |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
there were 64 nodes per tube or pipe, two kinds of pipes and I think around 12 kinds of tubes |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
now there are something like 12 nodes apiece. |
| 04:14 |
ShadowNinja |
Oh, the tube registration function should be vastly simplified BTW, it's HUGE and ugly (So many textures!) |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
I probably have the count wrong, but anyway, it was a LOT |
| 04:14 |
Peacock |
why not 1 kind of tube? what do they all do? |
| 04:14 |
Megaf_ |
folks, can you please test my server? I feels fast as hell to me. megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: accelerators, sorting, one-way/diode, non-turning crossovers, teleporters, and a bunch of other kinds |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: they were created like that because I hate trying to pass off one texture to serve multiple purposes. it makes things look like shit in HDX sometimes :) |
| 04:16 |
Megaf_ |
I still have to setup the http thing |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
(really though, things like the crossover tube wouldn't have been texturable properly without that kind of flexibility) |
| 04:16 |
Megaf_ |
so texture might take some time to load |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
Megaf_: as long as you're at git HEAD, the media transfer code isn't too terribly slow anymore |
| 04:17 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Perhaps, but combine a few and generate the names for the rest. |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
it can sustain a few mbps at least, now. |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: OH, sure algorithmically generating the filenames isn't a bad idea, you're right |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
I'll work on condensing that at some point soon |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
or maybe get nore to it ;) |
| 04:19 |
Megaf_ |
this LuaJIT seems to be pretty fast |
| 04:20 |
Peacock |
seems like it would just be simpler to implement trek-ian cargo transporters lol |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: teleporter tubes. :) |
| 04:24 |
Peacock |
then if you got those what the others are for? |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
sorting and such |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
players play in different ways |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
not everyone likes to take the fast way out :P |
| 04:25 |
Peacock |
well having a bunch of machines to mine sort and craft seems like an overly complicated way to play creative :p |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
people do this on survival too |
| 04:26 |
Peacock |
well whether its creative or survival or economy people seem to be just as clueless how to play lol |
| 04:26 |
Peacock |
you'd think some of them didn't even know it's a building game lol |
| 04:27 |
Peacock |
the thing people enjoyed the most on my server was killing each other lol |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
yeah so I've noticed :-/ |
| 04:27 |
SirDigby |
I don't get that at all |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
same on my servers, which is why I disabled pvp |
| 04:27 |
SirDigby |
must be a age thing |
| 04:27 |
Peacock |
well there are plenty of free FPS's thats what i dont get lol |
| 04:28 |
Peacock |
or maybe people get a kick out of killing people trying to build things? lol |
| 04:28 |
SirDigby |
I just want to build. my teen days of fpf is long over with |
| 04:29 |
SirDigby |
the most I do is play tf2 once and a while |
| 04:29 |
Peacock |
well strategy games and FPS's arent as good as they used to be anyways |
| 04:29 |
Peacock |
graphics got better, gameplay and users got a lot worse lol |
| 04:29 |
SirDigby |
It all started with cod 4 |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
they closed the Cod and salmon fisheries here, environmental reasons |
| 04:30 |
SirDigby |
right |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
just kidding :p |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
those modern FPS where people actually talk to eachother (teamspeak shit), i find that repulsive lol |
| 04:31 |
Peacock |
you can practically hear the greasy 12 year old breathing down nacho cheese |
| 04:31 |
Peacock |
and theres always that one kid on the game whos like this: http://youtu.be/q8SWMAQYQf0 |
| 04:32 |
SirDigby |
Well cod people and really everyone on xbox are just pre teens and teens insulting each other, may as well be free for all |
| 04:32 |
SirDigby |
and up in till last year tf2 on pc master race was actual team play |
| 04:32 |
SirDigby |
or you didn't win the map |
| 04:32 |
Peacock |
seriously, if you wanna know who your mother slept with, xbox is the place to go XD |
| 04:33 |
SirDigby |
I find it fucked up that my 60+ year old mother is sleeping with 12 year olds |
| 04:33 |
Peacock |
and apparently 90% of xbox users are gay, in stark contrast to the real world XD |
| 04:34 |
SirDigby |
Naturaly I confronted her upon learning of this down right morally wrong and illegal activity. |
| 04:36 |
SirDigby |
It's to sad that they feel the need to slander homosexual African Americans |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
oh yeah i forgot about the racial epithets lol |
| 04:37 |
Peacock |
nevermind the fact that i've yet to cross a single african here or on any other game |
| 04:37 |
Peacock |
(apparently they dig up the internet cables as fast as the companies can bury them) |
| 04:42 |
Peacock |
"Jerry Seinfeld is planning a comeback reunion" NOOOOOOOOOO! </vader> |
| 04:43 |
PapaJacky |
you must not play enough games then |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
bbl, bedtime |
| 04:44 |
Peacock |
well im pushing 30 so no lol not that many these days |
| 04:44 |
Peacock |
besides they're all starting to suck, they even found a way to ruin simcity |
| 04:44 |
PapaJacky |
yeah it really just depends on the type of games you play |
| 04:45 |
Peacock |
i tend to prefer builder games since FPS all tend to be the same |
| 04:46 |
Peacock |
the only thing thats changed in FPS's since my childhood and now is I fought nazis kids today fight the chinese or arabs lol |
| 04:46 |
Peacock |
Return to Castle Wolfenstein is still my favorite lol |
| 04:46 |
PapaJacky |
it's probably because sim games have a small community in comparison to other gaming communities |
| 04:46 |
PapaJacky |
like there are plenty of black guys in the fgc |
| 04:46 |
Peacock |
fgc? |
| 04:47 |
PapaJacky |
fighting games community |
| 04:47 |
Peacock |
well black isn't the same as actually living in Africa, there are plenty of black guys in Europe and North America :P |
| 04:47 |
PapaJacky |
oh |
| 04:47 |
PapaJacky |
well that's probably just because there are probably less gamers in africa in general lol |
| 04:48 |
Peacock |
well yeah, even in the first world we have problems with copper thieves, imagine cable thefts in Africa, most of them use cellphones to go online |
| 04:49 |
Peacock |
(and no not because of anyones colour :P scrap metal is worth alot to anyone who's poor regardless of colour) |
| 04:50 |
Peacock |
besides most of the poor people in Canada are as white as snow (another thing we got in abundance lol) |
| 04:55 |
paramat |
Peacock, finally ... :P' ... im getting somewhere with the ice, biome blend plus thinning away from islands http://i.imgur.com/uuCaSDq.png |
| 04:55 |
Peacock |
cool, seems to reflect the shape of the coastline |
| 04:57 |
paramat |
yep :D i had better push this now ... i love pushing the git master's origin |
| 05:00 |
Peacock |
sounds good, ill update tomorrow, i haven't played much today after spending most of last night on that bridge lol |
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Peacock |
so im checking out Dark Touch, the trailer makes it look like a modern Children of the Corn, though if they modernized that old movie and made it for geeks it would probably be called Children of Cron |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: I wasn't able to use nodeboxes when I wrote the oil mod |
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* Jordach |
will attempt to make a proper 2D mapgen |
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* Peacock |
will attempt to conquer Persia (like Alexander the Great) |
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Jordach |
if you google perlin noise Lua, the Minetest API.txt appears |
| 10:50 |
Peacock |
googling doc lua api txt gives the same result :P |
| 10:53 |
Peacock |
though, i googled it millions of times, and clicked on the appropriate link, so if im not the only one doing that, it shouldn't surprise lol |
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Jordach |
fuck it, i'll go write my own noise algor |
| 11:00 |
reactor |
Anyone yet created a mod that randomly replaced blocks? |
| 11:00 |
reactor |
(need to make stone roads look older, don't know what to use to automate that) |
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Peacock |
reactor i wrote a decay mod a long time ago,just code an abm that randomly replaces road material with graffiti/cracked versions of the same thing |
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reactor |
good |
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Megaf |
Good &(date) everyone |
| 11:17 |
Peacock |
and matinal felicitations to you |
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* Jordach |
takes the booze away from Peacock |
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* Megaf |
is creating a new shell script |
| 11:24 |
Peacock |
thats not fair, i got one beer left and then its time for 7am dinner :p |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: actually I was referring to your textures, not your models :P |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
good morning all |
| 11:35 |
Jordach |
morning VanessaE |
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* Jordach |
has a 4 day weekend |
| 11:35 |
Peacock |
4 day weekend? when u start workin? |
| 11:35 |
Jordach |
Peacock, school's closed today, and i've got no lessons monday |
| 11:36 |
Peacock |
ah school that makes sense |
| 11:36 |
Jordach |
derp |
| 11:37 |
Jordach |
!c 30*300 |
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MinetestBot |
9000 |
| 11:37 |
Jordach |
!c 9000*6 |
| 11:37 |
MinetestBot |
54000 |
| 11:37 |
Jordach |
fuck |
| 11:37 |
Peacock |
well 4 day weekends feel a lot better when you're miserable (working) :P |
| 11:38 |
Megaf |
morning VanessaE |
| 11:38 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: any way to make moretrees mod more independent and lightweight? |
| 11:38 |
Peacock |
removing it, but that kindof defeats the purpose :P |
| 11:38 |
VanessaE |
it only relies on plants_lib and it only spanws saplings at mapgen time |
| 11:39 |
Peacock |
alternatively, disable the spawning code :P |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
it's not possible to make it any more lightweight than it is now |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
you could rewrite plants_lib to use vmanip maybe, or that decorations code that was being worked on, but I've no idea how either of those works |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
or if that would help at all, let alone whether it would even work right |
| 11:40 |
Peacock |
lsystems is fast enough, its the spawning code thats a huge drag |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: nope.avi |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
lsystems is fast, it's the *lighting* code that's slow |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
the evaluation code is fast, less than 100ms per chunk typical |
| 11:41 |
VanessaE |
placing a tree is fast, a few ms |
| 11:41 |
Peacock |
well enough servers disabled the spawning part to know what lags :P |
| 11:41 |
VanessaE |
but *building* the tree is slow, and that's entirely inside the engine. |
| 11:41 |
VanessaE |
so I disabled spawning whole trees at mapgen time by default a LONG time ago. |
| 11:41 |
VanessaE |
I only spawn saplings. |
| 11:41 |
VanessaE |
anyone who hasn't updated moretrees to account for that just doesn't care |
| 11:42 |
Peacock |
well engine lighting sucks regardless of what anyone tries to do with it |
| 11:42 |
Peacock |
though i skipped the whole ongen and abm phase by having the saplings generate the trees on place |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
the saplings are a rapid-growing kind that users can't get or place normally, they start growing within about 10 seconds of being spawned, that way the world doesn't take too long to build up |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
but the mapgen doesn't get lagged out by it |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
(an abm handles the growth after the saplings are spawned by the mapgen) |
| 11:47 |
Megaf |
I see |
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Megaf |
quite hard to play minetest via VNC |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, generating a titanic render (mainly most of my models that I've made before) |
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Jordach |
hey Rhy5 |
| 12:13 |
Rhy5 |
Hey Jordach. :) |
| 12:13 |
Jordach |
Rhy5, last night i was working with ChainLynx (hint, he's got a special G6 model that's custom built) |
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Rhy5 |
Ok? |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
and i'm working on a final wallpaper |
| 12:14 |
Rhy5 |
Very nice. :) |
| 12:15 |
Rhy5 |
Are you good with nodeboxes btw Jordach? |
| 12:16 |
Jordach |
no |
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Jordach |
nodeboxes are not my thing |
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Rhy5 |
Hmm... |
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Rhy5 |
Do you know anybody who can help me? |
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Jordach |
Blender Fail 2: forget to remove doubles on a transparent material |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten-in-a-box at Jordach |
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Jordach |
meow |
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Jordach |
sfan5, just experimenting with something awesome |
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sfan5 |
tell meh |
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Megaf |
anyone with a little time to help to test my server? |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
yet another minecraft render... |
| 12:31 |
Megaf |
sfan5: a kitten-in-a-box would be really sucefull in Japan |
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Jordach |
plol' http://i.imgur.com/s0nGyN6.png |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, wrong wrong wrong wrong |
| 12:32 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/oEqntXV.png |
| 12:33 |
VanessaE |
oh, imagine that... it's minetest-related for once :P |
| 12:33 |
Jordach |
</troll> |
| 12:33 |
VanessaE |
sorry to be so cynical |
| 12:33 |
Jordach |
that wallpaper topic resurfaced for air |
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Jordach |
i thought i'd make use of my four days off |
| 12:34 |
VanessaE |
but you've been rather obsessed with MC for a while now. |
| 12:34 |
Megaf |
lol, doritos flavour |
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Megaf |
does that looks ok? http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media |
| 12:36 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: yeah, but not port 8080 |
| 12:36 |
VanessaE |
it needs to be on port 80. |
| 12:36 |
Megaf |
why? |
| 12:36 |
VanessaE |
(afaik) |
| 12:36 |
VanessaE |
because that's where minetest goes to get it from. |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
unless there's some extra bit I'm unaware of |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
try it and see if it works? |
| 12:37 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: remote_media = http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/ |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
well try it, maybe it'll work |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
dunn |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
but the structure seems right |
| 12:38 |
sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Index of /media/ |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: can you try please? megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
| 12:38 |
VanessaE |
just make sure each of the files present there is the exact file that will be sent by your minetest server had the media not exited. |
| 12:38 |
VanessaE |
existed. |
| 12:39 |
Megaf |
nobody will have interact privs by the way |
| 12:39 |
Megaf |
I'm just testing some stuff first |
| 12:39 |
VanessaE |
07:39:03: INFO[main]: Client: Failed to remote-fetch 1318 files. Requesting them the usual way. |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
07:39:03: INFO[CurlFetchThread]: http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/index.mth no |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
t found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 417) |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
I told you you need to fix that |
| 12:40 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: I'm sure they have 猫-in-a-箱 in japan already |
| 12:40 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: That's really too bad |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
you need to return 404, not 417. |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
fix your webserver. |
| 12:41 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: try this script for remote-media: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560 |
| 12:41 |
Megaf |
sfan5: I used this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69079#p69079 |
| 12:42 |
VanessaE |
I told you you need to fix that error code! fix your G*d damned webserver FIRST |
| 12:43 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: it gives 404 for me |
| 12:44 |
VanessaE |
the curl/media fetch code bugs out when the server returns anything other than 404 for a file not found. |
| 12:44 |
VanessaE |
well maybe a browser gets a 404, but the minetest client gets a 417 from your webserver. |
| 12:45 |
Megaf |
whats that mht thing anyway? |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
idk, a hashed list of files or something, I don't know exactly how it works |
| 12:45 |
Megaf |
sfan5: the index.mht file should or should not be there? |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
fix your webserver to return proper error codes and try sfan5's script. |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: |
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VanessaE |
07:50:38: INFO[CurlFetchThread]: http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
that's MY webserver. |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
I also don't use the index.mth as you can see, |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
but nginx returns a proper 404. |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
because it returns a 404: |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
07:50:38: INFO[main]: Client: Enabling compatibility mode for remote server "http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/" |
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twoelk|2 |
Megaf: Error[CurlFetchThread]: select returned error code 10022 - ERROR[MeshUpdateThread]: Waiting for solids_shader timed out |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
but the client doesn't do this on your server because you return code 417, which causes the curl fetch code to bug out. kahrl knows about this already. until it can be fixed (and even when it is), you need to make your webserver properly return a 404 |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
twoelk|2: that's a client bug. |
| 12:49 |
twoelk|2 |
:-( |
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VanessaE |
happens to me in singplayer. Megaf, ignore that shader thing. |
| 12:49 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: well, so I'm not using that remote_media thing, I have no idea how to fix that in Lighttpd |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: just look it up, I'm sure there's some documentation somewhere. it's probably related to the USER_AGENT being sent by the minetest client. |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
just a rough guess |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
because I can also attempt a wget of http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/index.mth and I get a 404 that way also. |
| 12:51 |
VanessaE |
you could just ditch lighttpd and use nginx or something else that works :P |
| 12:51 |
Megaf |
lighttpd is fast and lightweight |
| 12:51 |
VanessaE |
"fast and lightweight" means exactly dick |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
what matters is WHAT you send |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
not HOW you send it |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
you're not serving up a media-heavy website to millions of clients |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
you could just as well be running apache and you probably wouldn't notice a difference :P |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
and besides, nginx works pretty well |
| 12:54 |
Megaf |
ok, im installing nginx |
| 12:54 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: try this first: http://www.lighttpd.net/2009/2/16/1-4-21-yes-we-can-do-another-release/ |
| 12:54 |
sfan5 |
New setting to disable returning of a 417 if “Expect: 100-continue†header is given: server.reject-expect-100-with-417 = “disable†|
| 12:55 |
VanessaE |
there you go, Megaf |
| 12:55 |
VanessaE |
told you to look it up first... |
| 12:56 |
VanessaE |
and that was in Feb. 2009..... |
| 12:57 |
Megaf |
sfan5: oh dear, thanks, |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: ready to try again? |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
nope |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
I was configuring nginx when sfan told me about that |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
Now I will try to make lighttpd work |
| 13:00 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: ok, ready |
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VanessaE |
08:03:25: INFO[CurlFetchThread]: http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) |
| 13:03 |
VanessaE |
08:03:25: INFO[main]: Client: Enabling compatibility mode for remote server "http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/" |
| 13:03 |
VanessaE |
MUCH BETTER |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
and no "Failed" notice in the log |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
means ALL of your files went through cURL |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
congratulations. |
| 13:08 |
Megaf |
Thanks VanessaE, really =) |
| 13:08 |
VanessaE |
thank sfan5, he found the cause :) |
| 13:09 |
VanessaE |
I just kicked your ass to make you look into it closer :) |
| 13:09 |
sfan5 |
no,no,no |
| 13:09 |
sfan5 |
I just googled "lighttpd 417" |
| 13:09 |
Megaf |
so did I |
| 13:09 |
Megaf |
but you found the answer faster than me |
| 13:10 |
Megaf |
I actually duckedduckedgoed :P |
| 13:10 |
pitriss |
I want to ask.. when in technic mod in textures directory exists also hires directory with hires textures.. are those hires textures loaded? or game doesn't look into texture subdirectories? |
| 13:12 |
sfan5 |
pitriss: I don't think it looks into subdirs |
| 13:12 |
pitriss |
sfan5: ok, thanks.. |
| 13:16 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: ok, now nginx is working |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
well you don't need nginx now that you have lighttpd working.... |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
you duckduckgo'd....or you duckduckwen't? ;) |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
you duckduckgo'd....or you duckduckwent* ? ;) |
| 13:19 |
Megaf |
Let's say that I duckducked, simpler |
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Megaf |
sfan5: so, is that any good reason to have index.mht? |
| 13:21 |
sfan5 |
mth* |
| 13:21 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 13:21 |
sfan5 |
IIRC it makes downloading faster or something |
| 13:24 |
Megaf |
sfan5: whats that $f thing? |
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sfan5 |
Megaf: a variable |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
ok, I found the read f now |
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Megaf |
now it makes sense |
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Megaf |
https://paste.debian.net/79473/ |
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Megaf |
done missing, fixed |
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Jordach |
lol, blender has an automated blocky clouds feature |
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Jordach |
okay, much better |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/gFFlDS5.png |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/0K3yzrT.jpg |
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VanessaE |
awwwwwwww |
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Jordach |
purrrrrr |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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reactor |
Elo. |
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reactor |
*sneeze* |
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Jordach |
mmm, chili heatwave doritos |
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PilzAdam |
mmm, humans |
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Exio4 |
hmm, brains |
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Exio4 |
oh, this is minetest |
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Exio4 |
brb searching brains in other channel |
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* Jordach |
sets the channel track to Daft Punk |
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* PilzAdam |
sets the channel track to "Jordach singing in the shower" |
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Jordach |
plol |
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reactor |
шЙТЗСИВ. |
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* sfan5 |
throws a Toaster at PilzAdam |
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* PilzAdam |
makes some toast |
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sfan5 |
no,no,no you got it all wrong |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
no toats? |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
*toast |
| 15:18 |
sfan5 |
I threw this at you: http://i.imgur.com/hoCnvm7.png |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
ehhh.. what? http://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromThePizzaGuy/comments/1wldh6/you_could_have_gotten_away_if_it_wasnt_for_your/cf3dzmv |
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* sfan5 |
puts Rainbow Dash on john_minetest's head |
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* PilzAdam |
gives john_minetest some toast |
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MinetestBot |
4- |
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* Jordach |
hands PilzAdam farming:bread |
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* sfan5 |
puts Derpy on john_minetest's head |
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sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.tan(c[0]+3.7582)*10) % 0x13)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'mefkVajmlucut+ hif}f')) |
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MinetestBot |
'john_minetest: hello' |
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sfan5 |
derpy and purple, lol |
| 15:28 |
sfan5 |
!g derpy mlp |
| 15:28 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Derpy |
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PilzAdam |
Derpy looks kinda derpy |
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sfan5 |
much purple |
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Krock |
Hi |
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Jordach |
hold on |
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* Jordach |
defuses the question |
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Jordach |
+1 http://imgur.com/gallery/iHnbahA |
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PilzAdam |
s/german/bavarian/ |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/sU6i2GE.png |
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Jordach |
^ proof for the masses |
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!c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.tan(c[0]+3.7582)*10) % 0x13)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), "mefkVajmlucut+ hif}f")) |
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MinetestBot |
'john_minetest: hello' |
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Jordach |
why does it still do that? |
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Jordach |
those quotes annoy me |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: still do that? |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot uses repr, that's why there are quotes |
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Jordach |
[15:43:38] <MinetestBot> 'john_minetest: hello' |
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Jordach |
those goddamn '<msg>' |
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Megaf_ |
Am I the only one who finds this quite beautiful? http://paste.debian.net/79487/ |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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PilzAdam |
o/ |
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PenguinDad |
o\ |
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EvergreenTree |
ohai PenguinDad |
| 16:38 |
PilzAdam |
one apple a day keeps the doctor away |
| 16:38 |
PilzAdam |
since you dont have money to pay them anymore |
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PilzAdam |
but has it an apple on it? |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
the only thing apple did right was the fucking iPad |
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* sfan5 |
tapes an apple to PilzAdam's forehead |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
add a stand, usable keyboard that my fingers can type with |
| 16:44 |
Kray |
john_minetest is angry because he doesn't have enough money to buy proper hardware |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
proper hardware is not neccessarily apple |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, agreed |
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Kray |
lol poor |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: you have enough money, will you buy me a 1080p monitor then? |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
i'd buy an Air - buy they're still to expensive |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
(MacBook( |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, they're excellent content creators |
| 16:45 |
EvergreenTree |
Kray, why would you spend 1000USD on a 400USD laptop? |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
especially for rendering video |
| 16:46 |
EvergreenTree |
even if you had money |
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Kray |
why would anyone? |
| 16:46 |
EvergreenTree |
Don't say "lol poor" if they are actually being wise with their money |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: install mac os x on your computer. |
| 16:50 |
sfan5 |
don't tell me that is in their EULA |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
fuck tha law |
| 16:51 |
sfan5 |
because wikipedia says EULA's not agreed upon at the time of buying are not valid in germany |
| 16:51 |
sfan5 |
dualboot? |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
*tux |
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sfan5 |
wut do you wants? quadboot? |
| 16:52 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
how about torrenting it from somewhere, you're not agreeing on anything then |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
you know you're having a shit day when: http://i.imgur.com/ePEBbCU.png |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
not even my hat wants to work right :) |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, test renders up until the real thing TM |
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EvergreenTree |
john_minetest, modeling is the hardest part of blender (for me) |
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EvergreenTree |
hm, part of the problem is I don't really know what I want to do |
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Megaf |
john_minetest: actually I paied more for the build quality |
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Megaf |
a solid block of aluminium |
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Megaf |
it survived already to quite a lot of drops, even on concrete and a car/bike accident |
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Megaf |
only with minor scraches |
| 17:46 |
Megaf |
we we get what we pay for |
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Megaf |
so we* |
| 17:47 |
Megaf |
and its from mid 2010 |
| 17:47 |
SmugLeaf |
hmm? |
| 17:47 |
Megaf |
battery still lasts up to 10 hours running Snow Leopard nad 3 hours running GNU/Linux |
| 17:49 |
SmugLeaf |
when you make the OS and the hardware you better be able to save every last drop of battery |
| 17:50 |
Megaf |
and when new it used to last up to 15 hours (wifi off) |
| 17:51 |
Megaf |
and still now a days, in standby lasts for, man, no idea, a month at least |
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Megaf |
SmugLeaf: actually I think Snow Leopard will be almost as power efficient on a PC as is on a Mac |
| 17:57 |
Megaf |
Lion, Mountain Lion and Mavericks doest lasts nearly as long as Snow Leopard |
| 17:58 |
us_0gb |
Megaf: On GNU/Linux, what desktop are you using? Maybe the desktop is draining power like crazy. |
| 17:59 |
mid-kid |
You also have to look for drivers. The propietary Radeon driver on my laptop drains a lot less than the open source one. |
| 18:00 |
Megaf |
mid-kid: yep, the nvidia driver will give be up to an hour of battery over nouveau |
| 18:00 |
Megaf |
on my macbook pro |
| 18:01 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. Yeah, there could be that. I'm told the machine I'm getting only gets one to two or three hours of battery life with its default setup (GNU/Linux/GNOME/free drivers/free firmware). |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
us_0gb: my desktop is an Asus motherboard with an AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE (3,2Ghz) but mosto f the time is at 800 MHz |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
and open source radeon driver |
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Megaf |
ATI HD 4200 |
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us_0gb |
Megaf: Sorry, I'm not good with hardware. Is that good or bad?> |
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us_0gb |
Funny you should say that. The laptop I'm waiting for in the mail is an old Lenovo x60. <http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/ibm-lenovo-thinkpad-x60-coreboot/> |
| 18:12 |
mid-kid |
Coreboot FTW. Just saying. |
| 18:13 |
us_0gb |
It's too bad it's supported by so few machines. I'd love to use it on something newer. |
| 18:14 |
twoelk |
old Lenovo as in Thinkpad? |
| 18:14 |
us_0gb |
Oh, my condolences. 😢 |
| 18:14 |
us_0gb |
twoelk: Yeah, it's a Thinkpad. |
| 18:15 |
* twoelk |
had one of those Thinkpad=indestructable but ugly |
| 18:15 |
mid-kid |
Personally, I'm not really fond of old, bulky laptops. Unless they are powerful. |
| 18:17 |
mid-kid |
Screw touch screens. I want it. |
| 18:18 |
twoelk |
indeed working with old hardware isn't much fun but most stuff that is real fun isn't very reliable |
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us_0gb |
john_minetest: Wow, that's trippy. |
| 18:22 |
twoelk |
The old Thinkpads were pretty robust (I abused them in many ways), I'm not sure with the new Lenovos and wonder what happens after the Motorola deal |
| 18:22 |
us_0gb |
I've actually got a large scratch across my monitor. THat's not why I'm getting a new one though. I'm just tired of graphical bugs caused by firmware issues. |
| 18:23 |
mid-kid |
Meh, I just get the cheapest with the best specs I can find. Usually it's pretty shiny 'n stuff, and gets many scratches on the case, but as long as I'm careful, it's ok. |
| 18:23 |
us_0gb |
I'm told the only firmware issues the x60 has are with the wireless card. And that's been swapped out with something compatible. |
| 18:25 |
us_0gb |
I've never owned a new computer. Second-hand is all I know. |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
^ |
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us_0gb |
I was finally going to get a new one, but then that blasted BIOS got in the way. It prevents you from installing unapproved wireless cards on your own machine. So I went with the Coreboot one instead. |
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us_0gb |
And Coreboot of course means old. |
| 18:27 |
mid-kid |
Usually the second-hands I find are too expensive for what they offer. I end up getting a better new one for the same price. |
| 18:28 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, sometimes newer machines are less expansive for some reason. |
| 18:28 |
us_0gb |
Not in the case of what I was looking at though. I wanted a ThinkPenguin. |
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mid-kid |
^ |
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us_0gb |
The problem with "open source laptops" is that the parts makers do not cooperate. |
| 18:34 |
us_0gb |
Not fully open source. |
| 18:34 |
us_0gb |
Look at the BIOS. |
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us_0gb |
It'd Okay, you might be onto something then. |
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us_0gb |
-"It'd " |
| 18:37 |
Jordach |
not really, any kind of DC jack will do |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, my cheap ass droid tablet has one |
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MinetestBot |
john_minetest: A.de: Günstige Preise für Elektronik, Foto, Filme, Musik, Bücher, Games, Spielzeug, Sportartikel [...] |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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us_0gb |
Hey EvergreenTree! |
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ShadowNinja |
~translate de to en <last --from MinetestBot> |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Format and 02Google plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate". |
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ShadowNinja |
~google translate de to en <last --from MinetestBot> |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: john_minetest : A.de : Online Shopping for Electronics , Photo , Movies , music, books , games, toys, sporting goods [ ... ] |
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sfan5 |
yay! the new receiver records TV in a computer readable format at 720p |
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grondilu |
Are you guys interested in "EverQuest Next: landmark" ? Looks like it's going to be the next big thing in sandbox games. I'd love to see an FOSS alternative to that. |
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us_0gb |
The site isn't really showing me much. From the looks of it, most of the content is loaded through JavaScript, which is disabled. |
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us_0gb |
But I'm always up for trying a free game, if a free alternative to EverQuest Next: landmark turns up. |
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harrison |
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harrison |
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harrison |
| ,' ? + _ thinking | |
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harrison |
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harrison |
|/ ' ' / is hard. my \ | |
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harrison |
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harrison |
|'. _' ,- head hurts. ,' | |
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harrison |
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harrison |
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harrison |
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harrison |
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harrison |
'`''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' |
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sfan5 |
ShadowBot! |
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sfan5 |
why doesn't it do anything? |
| 19:27 |
xnrand |
been haxed by harrison probably |
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specing |
maybe ShadowBot values ascii art |
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us_0gb |
Of course. ShadowBot can't see PNG images. For it to understand a picture, it must be in ASCII. ShadowBot likes being able to see the art. |
| 19:31 |
grondilu |
us_0gb: check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETXtqmOjRm8 for an intro about EVQN:l |
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us_0gb |
grondilu: YouTube doesn't work without JavaScript either. |
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grondilu |
clive? |
| 19:32 |
sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: What is EverQuest Next: Landmark? - YouTube |
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grondilu |
they are using quite a new engine though, so it's going to be hard to beat with free software. |
| 19:35 |
harrison |
great video |
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harrison |
the building tools |
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us_0gb |
I probably couldn't run it anyway. I'm on a laptop. |
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us_0gb |
It's too bad laptops lack the power of desktops. |
| 19:35 |
harrison |
you also could never run the voxel raytracer thing i am coding |
| 19:35 |
grondilu |
yeah you'd need quite powerful hardware. And a broadband connection. |
| 19:36 |
harrison |
it needs mad cpu |
| 19:37 |
grondilu |
they published requirements lately: https://www.eqnlandmark.com/news/eqn-landmark-alpha-system-requirements-january-23-2014-eql |
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grondilu |
toughest part is the 10Mbits/sec broadband |
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EvergreenTree |
a little late ShadowBot? |
| 19:39 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: You kept making me adjust it to a smaller interval until it won't catch that. |
| 19:39 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: I did? |
| 19:40 |
ShadowNinja |
Well, maybe not you specifically, but other staff. |
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us_0gb |
It looks GIMPed. I don't think it's real. |
| 20:01 |
PilzAdam |
topic of the day: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=127996#p127996 |
| 20:02 |
ShadowNinja |
Hehe. |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i'm surprised you've not attempted to add perlin noise to this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8443 |
| 20:20 |
sfan5 |
are you sure you mean me? |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
mhm |
| 20:20 |
sfan5 |
I'm not the person who wants perlin noise for everything |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i can't do better with my shitty method |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
just compile .cpp to .lua and you're done /s |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
lua doesn't have bitwise ops |
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* Jordach |
grabs Calinou's skin and goes to render it |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add propper client initialization e258675eab 2014-01-31T09:44:43-08:00 http://git.io/8JcPYA |
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* sfan5 |
puts a 猫 on Jordach |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, thats racist |
| 20:22 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
you know exactly what I mean |
| 20:23 |
sfan5 |
no I don't |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
ok, me neither |
| 20:24 |
sfan5 |
*note to self:* PilzAdam thinks it's racist to put the kanji for cat on people |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
hahahahahahahahaha |
| 20:24 |
PilzAdam |
I should stop writing something random while being bored... |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
omfg |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
no fuckin way |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
NO FUCKING WAY |
| 20:24 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
fuck me that's laughable |
| 20:25 |
PilzAdam |
public class Jordach implements Laughable |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
>imports Calinou's MC skin, >http://i.imgur.com/bDVOxu4.png |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: add my skin plz |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
Calinou, replace your face with a trollface then we're good to go :P |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
pfft |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
sfan5, all you're getting is the zombie model (not the super shiny human model) |
| 20:29 |
sfan5 |
:-( |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
because one side doesnt work |
| 20:35 |
Tux[Qyou] |
<PilzAdam> *tux |
| 20:35 |
Tux[Qyou] |
wut |
| 20:35 |
Tux[Qyou] |
also PilzAdam ##werewolf |
| 20:35 |
PilzAdam |
that one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux |
| 20:41 |
ShadowNinja |
I saw someone playing MC with a big modpack. (FTB) Even with all of the client side code and textures it was SLOW. Took about five minutes to start and a minute to connect. We are far ahead of modded MC speed-wise. And I bet we do better even without any mods. :-D |
| 20:43 |
FreeFull |
FTB is a huge modpack |
| 20:43 |
FreeFull |
So having fast everything really counts |
| 20:44 |
ShadowNinja |
How long does MC take to start and connect unmodded? |
| 20:45 |
ShadowNinja |
Both are <1s in Minetest. |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, but playing the actual game, FTB is faster than Minetest |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: I have found a good portable computer for you: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfVgYPACYAAZ5Zs.jpg |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
sfan5, the PI works |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
yo haz a pi? |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
will be getting another one |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
dammit, rendered sfan5 in shadeless mode |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, PIVISR |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
think VR + Google Glass |
| 20:56 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Yes, client-side Lua should fix that. What are MC's times? |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, oculus rift isnt transparent on the other side |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
i want to use the damn thing while out and about |
| 20:57 |
* sfan5 |
throws http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138733896281 at Jordach |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, oculus rift isn't ready for use |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
and they're huge, compared to 87% transparent plexiglass |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
which can be several MM thick |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i only plan to have a ghostly interface (actual VR would need more oomph) |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
think Iron Man style HUD |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
sfan5, dat heatsink tho |
| 21:01 |
Jordach |
i could always add vents on the back |
| 21:03 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: but heatsinks are quiet |
| 21:03 |
Jordach |
sfan5, hot metal near skin |
| 21:04 |
sfan5 |
Jordach, proper packaging |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i could always add a copper pipe to act as a head warmer |
| 21:05 |
sfan5 |
exactly |
| 21:05 |
sfan5 |
would be perfect for this kind of wheather |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
but then i have to reconfigure my CAD design a bit |
| 21:05 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: *ahem* ^ |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, dafuq |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, this thing covers the entire face |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
think riot helmet that displays data realtime |
| 21:07 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i meant the idea of google glass; easily accessible data |
| 21:07 |
Jordach |
without having to use a tablet or phone |
| 21:08 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: What are MC's times? |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
so then i could check RSS feeds (eg, BBC news, weather) and listen to music, watch a film and browse comics without resorting to my tablet |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, ~1 minute for tekkit, ~10+ minutes for VanessaE's survival server |
| 21:09 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: No, what are MC's unmodded startup and connection times? |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, ~13 seconds on a Pentium 4 |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
~5 seconds for a multiplayer server |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
(startup / loading multiplayer server) |
| 21:10 |
sfan5 |
pfff.. what are they saying: http://i.imgur.com/89kRn13.png all wrong! </offtopic> |
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ShadowNinja |
What about singleplayer? |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, ~15 seconds due to hard drive |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
might be instant in an SSD |
| 21:11 |
ShadowNinja |
What is it loading that takes 15 seconds? |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
chunks and mobs |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
and active redstone machiners |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
machinery* |
| 21:13 |
Jordach |
but that WILL BE MULTIPLIED on a more modern 64 Bit syste, |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, try the minecraft demo |
| 21:15 |
Jordach |
MC also has block prediction (i've never had blocks rubber band) |
| 21:16 |
ShadowNinja |
Minetest has node placement prediction (nodePlacementPrediction(), game.cpp) |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, i can build at ~12 blocks a second and no blocks go missing unlike minetest |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
because minetest slows down block build updates |
| 21:17 |
ShadowNinja |
Redstone is part of chunks, those should only take a few miliseconds to load even on the slowest hard drives. |
| 21:17 |
ShadowNinja |
~12/sec? How do you place that fast? |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, on some FPS games, i can drain a pistol's magazine in a half a second |
| 21:18 |
ShadowNinja |
And I only get missing nodes on slower servers. |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
my fingers are accustomed to speed clicking |
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ShadowNinja |
Heh. |
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Jordach |
i also position them strangely; i place two fingers on LMB and ARC my middle for RMB |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
(never use the middle part of the finger to click, make an "n" shape and use the tip |
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Jordach |
oh, and use the literal top of the mouse button / key |
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blaise |
someone highlighted me some time ago and I cannot find it in the buffer |
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sfan5 |
blaise: /usr/bin/grep |
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blaise |
I tried it |
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Jordach |
blaise, http://irc.minetest.ru |
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blaise |
lmao |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: up for a game Xonotic/RedEclipse/whatever? |
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Jordach |
sfan5, working blender still |
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* sfan5 |
goes play OpenSpades |
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ShadowNinja |
blaise: Nothing in my logs for the past two or three days. |
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blaise |
hrmm |
| 21:26 |
blaise |
I couldn't find it |
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blaise |
oh well |
| 21:26 |
blaise |
I'm sure if it was important they'll private message me or something |
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Jordach |
blaise, or use memoserv |
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sfan5 |
visual basic |
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sfan5 |
lol |
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Jordach |
technically correct |
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FreeFull |
I don't know Visual Basic |
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* sfan5 |
knows how to use Visual Basic |
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Jordach |
http://youtu.be/H1UuaadB1W4?t=1m53s |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, do you want it to be released to the public? |
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Jordach |
mm?! |
| 21:57 |
PilzAdam |
the .blend file, see the video you linked |
| 21:58 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, later |
| 21:58 |
Jordach |
there is a prototype G6 model floating around with a public link |
| 22:03 |
Jordach |
Calinou, SNAP! |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/vTNp7yT.png |
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ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Um, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=TODO&curid=365&diff=1717&oldid=1640 |
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Jordach |
* Make gold not look like American cheese <- lol'd |
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* Jordach |
has that sense that Calinou is watching clop |
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Jordach |
rendering preliminary 1080p render |
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Jordach |
s/render/wallpape |
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Jordach |
r* |
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ShadowNinja |
Calinou: My MoreBlocks rewrite should be ready now. But you should look over it. And BTW, my patch is bigger than the entire mod (after the patch, I think it's bigger than the mod before the patch too). |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, brave american soldiers fighting the terrorism on the world |
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sfan5 |
wtf am I reading: http://i.imgur.com/KtqlGVi.png |
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VanessaE |
"americans" don't. |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
the american GOVERNMENT does. |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
and we have little control over it anymore, it's bought and aid for by the big corps :-/ |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, the government represents the americans, though |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: nope.avi |
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ShadowNinja |
^ Otherwise you're commiting the falacy of hypostatization. |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: but Hitler used (kinda) unfair methods to get more power |
| 22:46 |
sfan5 |
not as far as I know |
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sfan5 |
anyway, good night |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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Jordach |
oOChainLynxOo, you should have a tab at the top with my name on, click it |
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blaise |
lolzomfg |
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Jordach |
hey EvergreenTree |
| 23:30 |
EvergreenTree |
hello |
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EvergreenTree |
Ohai oOChainLynxOo |
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oOChainLynxOo |
Hi EvergreenTree |
| 23:34 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Jordach has talked me into doing a threeway survival Minecraft with me, you, and him |
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Jordach |
with multiple PoV |
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Jordach |
EvergreenTree, wallpaper scene is done, rendering it now :) |
| 23:37 |
Jordach |
right, oOChainLynxOo you're GMT-8 right |
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Jordach |
i know EvergreenTree is -7 |
| 23:38 |
EvergreenTree |
-7? |
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oOChainLynxOo |
Eastern yes |
| 23:38 |
EvergreenTree |
oh yes, 7pm |
| 23:39 |
EvergreenTree |
Jordach, it must be really late where you live |
| 23:39 |
Jordach |
now that i have a sense of time, i can prepare my own timetable up so we don't have conflicts |
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EvergreenTree |
Jordach, Nice! |
| 23:40 |
Jordach |
that's why i need timezone data |
| 23:41 |
oOChainLynxOo |
I remember on the forum after I posted the Mese shirt pic people started saying that I looked like Jordach |
| 23:41 |
oOChainLynxOo |
We both disagree |
| 23:41 |
Jordach |
oOChainLynxOo, it's worse, in real life, me and Calinou both have the identical appearance |
| 23:41 |
oOChainLynxOo |
O.o |
| 23:41 |
Jordach |
beard, green eyes, curly hair |
| 23:43 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Lol |
| 23:43 |
Jordach |
bleh, this cough will be the end of me |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
and yes, i've once swallowed a battery :> |
| 23:44 |
oOChainLynxOo |
O.O |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
i did get guitar hero out of it (and promptly mastered it) |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
not to mention eating ice cream and soft foods for 4 weeks |
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oOChainLynxOo |
Ice cream... |
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oOChainLynxOo |
Bleh, Guitar Hero |
| 23:45 |
oOChainLynxOo |
If you are a real guitarist then Guitar Hero will be boring |
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Jordach |
oOChainLynxOo, they've tried beating me with DLC songs that are hard as nails |
| 23:45 |
Jordach |
i still beat them everytime |
| 23:45 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Lol |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
at my college, we had a smash bros tournament, i won it by 1 point |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
my nintendo nerd of a teacher was second :P |
| 23:47 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Lol |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
EvergreenTree, prepare to render me it (i've found two bugs now) |
| 23:48 |
Jordach |
i was trolling as Captain Falcon, they wised up to my tactics; i played as mario on the last round |
| 23:48 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Haha! |
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Jordach |
lol wrong button |
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oOChainLynxOo |
xD |
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Jordach |
anyways, it's 23:51 here, i'm out for the night |
| 23:52 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Ok then good night Jordach |
| 23:52 |
Jordach |
EvergreenTree, be the renderman :P |
| 23:52 |
Jordach |
new mob idea get |
| 23:52 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Lol |
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