Time Nick Message 01:33 EvergreenTree !ydobyreve olleh 01:35 EvergreenTree o/ 01:36 Enke o/ 01:46 stormchaser3000 hi 01:55 ShadowNinja ~reverse 01:55 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: hello everybody! 01:55 ShadowNinja :-D 01:56 EvergreenTree ShadowBot, y u so awesome 01:57 Enke 'cuz it's ShadowBot! 01:57 cornernote this guy is dope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERH-QA1L2Qs 01:58 EvergreenTree !title 01:58 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Vegan Rap -- No Wrapping The Dead - YouTube 01:59 cornernote clever title 01:59 cornernote hey NekoGloop 02:00 VanessaE hey cn 02:00 cornernote hey V 02:00 cornernote hows things ? 02:00 VanessaE pretty good, all things considered 02:00 cornernote if not, simply dont consider all things =) 02:01 Megaf_ Hi? 02:01 cornernote hey Megaf 02:02 Megaf_ Hi cornernote, how are things? 02:03 cornernote going awesome 02:03 cornernote i got my onda board yesterday 02:03 cornernote sooo fun 02:03 cornernote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx6CFSQc3M4 02:04 cornernote EvergreenTree, no !title on it ? 02:04 EvergreenTree fine 02:04 Megaf_ cornernote, I wish I could say the same, but things could be better here =/ 02:04 cornernote i have a longboard 02:05 cornernote like a real one, made of wood with skateboard wheels 02:05 cornernote only been riding a cpl of weeks 02:05 cornernote the onda board is very different to ride 02:05 cornernote a lot less stable until you get used to it 02:05 Megaf_ bigger wheels 02:05 Megaf_ VanessaE, ping 02:05 cornernote it turns so sharp 02:06 Megaf_ cornernote, I'm a bike guy 02:06 cornernote and if you're going fast, and you lose a little balance then you end up on your ass 02:06 Megaf_ either mountain and road 02:06 cornernote yeah, i used to love my bmx 02:06 Megaf_ unfortunately my road bike is wrecked, fucking drivers 02:06 cornernote but now it sits in the shed... too much effort to go bike riding compared to boarding 02:07 cornernote what happened ? 02:07 Megaf_ a woman didnt know what a stop sign meant 02:07 Megaf_ I crashed my bike into her car at 65 Km/h 02:07 Megaf_ Broke her windshield with my head 02:08 Megaf_ fortunately I was wearing a helmet and I was almost not injured 02:10 VanessaE pong 02:11 VanessaE I'm glad you're okay, Megaf_ 02:11 VanessaE that's not exactly what I'd call a slow impact 02:11 VanessaE that's enough to kill 02:11 Megaf_ VanessaE, Yes it is more than enough 02:12 Megaf_ well, but that was a couple of years ago 02:12 Megaf_ VanessaE, good to see you, something terrible happened to my server 02:16 cornernote > Broke her windshield with my head 02:16 cornernote ouch ! 02:16 cornernote yeah, helmets are good 02:16 cornernote i have to wear one as a good parental guide to my kids 02:16 cornernote but now im getting more into it, i wear it even if nobodys around 02:17 cornernote i figure that i kinda need my head 02:17 cornernote its a somewhat useful part of my being 02:18 cornernote humble weekly bundle this week is AWESOME! - https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly 02:20 Megaf_ cornernote, yep, my helmet broke too, but that's what it's made for 02:26 Megaf_ !seen Gronx 02:26 Megaf_ MinetestBot, are you there? 02:26 cornernote yeah, my $30 helmet is cheaper to replace than a head 02:28 ShadowNinja ~seen Gronx 02:28 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: I haven't seen Gronx in #minetest. 02:29 Megaf_ ~seen gronx 02:29 ShadowBot Megaf_: I haven't seen gronx in #minetest. 02:29 Megaf_ liar 02:29 Megaf_ .seen gronx 02:30 Megaf_ also, I thought that I had my server backed up, as there was a folder called backup, but today I went and see what there was inside and I saw no worlds folder! So my server is gone forever! =/ 02:30 Megaf_ today is a sad day 02:34 Sokomine Megaf_: indeed. perhaps you're lucky and someone did a local copy of your world (or at least of part of it) 02:46 Megaf_ does inventory_plus has a good crafting guide? 02:46 VanessaE use unified inventory 02:46 Peacock use moreunifiedinventoryplus, it has chocolate-chip cookies XD 02:48 VanessaE :P 02:48 Peacock happy to help :D 03:06 * Sokomine secretly smuggles a cookie past the sign and throws it at peacock :-) 03:08 Peacock i cant eat cookies right now lol the latest batch of spaghetti sauce had quite a bit of ja-la-pee-nos and my stomach's been in knots since i woke up lol 03:18 paramat turns out the snowblocks were 'in the ground' instead of 'on the ground', and were replacing the 'dirt_with_snow' below, now fixed 03:19 VanessaE eep 03:33 paramat i think onpon was talking about the guy in the video Peacock, not you ... =) 03:34 PapaJacky so 03:34 PapaJacky how is minetest different from regular minecraft 03:34 Peacock ah well how am i supposed to guess :P he said the same thing about me lol 03:35 Enke PapaJacky: Open-Source, different language, designed around moddability, usually faster. 03:35 Enke To name a few. 03:35 PapaJacky is it still java 03:38 Peacock either way i fixed it before it spirals into another interminable debate lol 03:38 paramat yeah it was easy to misunderstand that post, i thought that when i first read it 03:39 Peacock lol well hoodedice thinks onpons talking about the show host, you and i both thought he was talking about me, so who knows really lol 03:40 paramat okay so ice is trimmed a little closer to the coastline now, im testing now, however it has a parameter for ice width so you can adjust that 03:41 Peacock sounds good, maps not gone public yet so we haven't loaded too many islands :-) 03:47 Peacock though before going live in gonna have to code one of those agree/disagree tos thingies so there's no more confusion about the rules lol 03:47 Peacock *im 03:49 VanessaE PapaJacky: Minetest is written by a totally different team, in C++, not Java. It is entirely unrelated to Minecraft except that the concept is similar. 03:49 Peacock our dev team doesn't code with java, they code with alcohol :P 03:49 PapaJacky so it's like a copy of minecraft, but in c++ 03:49 VanessaE (that is, it's a block-based sandbox world in which you dig, craft, build, and maybe fight monsters in some cases() 03:49 VanessaE no, not a copy. 03:49 VanessaE totally different game and goals. 03:50 PapaJacky the art direction looks the same though 03:50 PapaJacky might want to clear that up 03:50 Peacock um, yeah kinda a copy lol 03:50 VanessaE Minetest is to Minecraft as, say, OpenArena is to Call of Duty 03:51 VanessaE same sort of genre, more or less, but differnt art, code, developers, goals, etc/. 03:51 Peacock i mean if its not the engine copying MC verbatim than some of the present devs wrote mods totally imitating the MC style and gameplay 03:51 Peacock (see block man and pilsbury's mods) 03:51 VanessaE those mods aren't part of the Minetest or minetest_game distributions. 03:52 Peacock no but those devs are :P so i assume it's somewhat their goal :P 03:52 VanessaE you can't count them any more than you can count RedPower2 or IndustrialCraft as being part of Minecraft 03:53 Peacock like those item drops so many minetestians thought were annoying but were done anyway because that's how its done in mC :P 03:54 Peacock though it is true 2/3's of the people here aren't interested in producing a 0-cost MC 03:54 VanessaE I use that mod for its "magnetic" pickup function, but I don't like the drop-on-dig function at all. irritating. 03:54 VanessaE you have to consider something: 03:54 VanessaE just because MC does something, doesn't make it a bad idea 03:54 Megaf_ This gonna be interesting https://paste.debian.net/79404/ 03:54 VanessaE and just because something's a good idea but MC does it, doesn't mean we have to avoid it. 03:55 Peacock true but you can't also claim were totally different in our approach either 03:56 VanessaE the ENGINE is totally different in approach 03:56 VanessaE modding is a different animal entirely and you know it 03:56 Peacock i guess it depends on whether specific people have also played MC or not, since I haven't i tend to prefer a fresh approach 03:56 VanessaE hell you know that better than anyone 03:56 VanessaE I've NEVER played MC 03:56 VanessaE so everything I do I approach with a fresh eye 03:56 VanessaE the most of MC I've ever seen is from the occasional video 03:56 Megaf_ I used to be a MC player, and had servers too 03:57 Peacock me neither, thats why it drives me nuts when people use things like "more minecraft-like" to defend ideas lol 03:57 VanessaE I might see something "hm, that looks useful, I might be able to implement that in MT", but I don't recall the last time I actually followed through with that 03:57 Megaf_ My ex, me and my gf, we all bought and played MC 03:57 VanessaE Pipeworks for example, was born out of a desire to rewrite sfan5's oil mod. 03:57 VanessaE (sorry sfan5...your pipes were butt ugly ;) ) 03:57 Megaf_ heh 03:57 Megaf_ indeed 03:57 Peacock well that mod is ancient lol 03:57 VanessaE yeah I know 03:57 Peacock and still broken last i checked 03:58 VanessaE but at the time I started working on pipeworks, it wasn't actually all that far outdated 03:58 VanessaE now, of course, it's long dead. 03:58 VanessaE anyway 03:58 Peacock though im a bit surprised no one's come out with a moreliquids type mod to go with pipeworks 03:58 VanessaE I do all my mods from the perspective of "I'd like this, this and this in Minetest" 03:58 VanessaE and so I code it. 03:58 VanessaE and I don't usually give two shits if MC has it or not 03:59 VanessaE Peacock: actually I've got a new branch in progress that I hope will be scalable to any liquid you wanna use. 03:59 Peacock well i told you how to solve that a long time ago :P store the liquid name in the meta 04:00 VanessaE yep 04:00 VanessaE that's the plan 04:00 VanessaE but first I have to finish the flowing logic rewrite 04:00 Peacock well that shouldn't take long then :P 04:00 VanessaE and I've been lazy 04:01 Peacock good luck with that, flowing logic will never be perfect, no matter what you go with, someone will come up with a setup that defies logic 04:01 VanessaE I got it to the point where it works quite well. picks up water from the pump, balances/equalizes it across the network, and sprays it out a spigot or fountainhead until the pressure drops too low 04:01 VanessaE I just haven't finished the other items e.g. valves and such 04:01 Peacock i can save you a bit of trouble right there: just combine the valves and fountainheads 04:02 VanessaE how's that? 04:02 Peacock well they both do the same thing 04:02 VanessaE erm 04:02 VanessaE you mean fountains/spigots do... 04:02 Peacock erm, yeah lol 04:03 VanessaE derp :) 04:03 Peacock too many parts i get mixed up lol 04:03 Peacock i even got a few different types of valves now 04:03 VanessaE actually I'll keep what I got because they work fine as-is 04:03 VanessaE the other objects I just haven't coded in yet is all 04:03 VanessaE and I don't wanna break old maps 04:03 Peacock well its also duplication, spigots/fountainheads can be just combined into a spigot that shoots particles in whatever direction, and if its facing down it can also place a full liquid node 04:04 Peacock though that becomes more obvious when you 6d the whole thing 04:05 Peacock got the pipes working in 6d yet? that seemed like a huge pain in the ass so i never did it lol just all the other parts 04:10 VanessaE oh yes 04:10 VanessaE they're fully 6d now 04:10 Megaf_ sorry, 6d? 04:10 Peacock that must have cut down on alot of nodes 04:11 VanessaE Megaf_: "6d facedir" means a node can be rotated to face any roll, pitch, and yaw (in 90 degree steps) 04:11 VanessaE Peacock: yeah, by something like 600 nodes in total 04:11 VanessaE I think, maybe 700 04:11 Peacock 600? didnt know pipeworks had that many combinations 04:11 VanessaE it has lots of different kinds of tubes as well as pipes 04:12 ShadowNinja Unless you have a negative ammount now... ^ 04:12 Peacock ah well i never used tubes 04:12 Peacock nor did i have the on/off variety 04:12 VanessaE there were 64 nodes per tube or pipe, two kinds of pipes and I think around 12 kinds of tubes 04:12 VanessaE now there are something like 12 nodes apiece. 04:14 ShadowNinja Oh, the tube registration function should be vastly simplified BTW, it's HUGE and ugly (So many textures!) 04:14 VanessaE I probably have the count wrong, but anyway, it was a LOT 04:14 Peacock why not 1 kind of tube? what do they all do? 04:14 Megaf_ folks, can you please test my server? I feels fast as hell to me. megaf.no-ip.info 30003 04:15 VanessaE Peacock: accelerators, sorting, one-way/diode, non-turning crossovers, teleporters, and a bunch of other kinds 04:15 VanessaE ShadowNinja: they were created like that because I hate trying to pass off one texture to serve multiple purposes. it makes things look like shit in HDX sometimes :) 04:16 Megaf_ I still have to setup the http thing 04:16 VanessaE (really though, things like the crossover tube wouldn't have been texturable properly without that kind of flexibility) 04:16 Megaf_ so texture might take some time to load 04:16 VanessaE Megaf_: as long as you're at git HEAD, the media transfer code isn't too terribly slow anymore 04:17 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Perhaps, but combine a few and generate the names for the rest. 04:17 VanessaE it can sustain a few mbps at least, now. 04:17 VanessaE ShadowNinja: OH, sure algorithmically generating the filenames isn't a bad idea, you're right 04:17 VanessaE I'll work on condensing that at some point soon 04:17 VanessaE or maybe get nore to it ;) 04:19 Megaf_ this LuaJIT seems to be pretty fast 04:20 Peacock seems like it would just be simpler to implement trek-ian cargo transporters lol 04:23 VanessaE Peacock: teleporter tubes. :) 04:24 Peacock then if you got those what the others are for? 04:24 VanessaE sorting and such 04:24 VanessaE players play in different ways 04:24 VanessaE not everyone likes to take the fast way out :P 04:25 Peacock well having a bunch of machines to mine sort and craft seems like an overly complicated way to play creative :p 04:25 VanessaE people do this on survival too 04:26 Peacock well whether its creative or survival or economy people seem to be just as clueless how to play lol 04:26 Peacock you'd think some of them didn't even know it's a building game lol 04:27 Peacock the thing people enjoyed the most on my server was killing each other lol 04:27 VanessaE yeah so I've noticed :-/ 04:27 SirDigby I don't get that at all 04:27 VanessaE same on my servers, which is why I disabled pvp 04:27 SirDigby must be a age thing 04:27 Peacock well there are plenty of free FPS's thats what i dont get lol 04:28 Peacock or maybe people get a kick out of killing people trying to build things? lol 04:28 SirDigby I just want to build. my teen days of fpf is long over with 04:29 SirDigby the most I do is play tf2 once and a while 04:29 Peacock well strategy games and FPS's arent as good as they used to be anyways 04:29 Peacock graphics got better, gameplay and users got a lot worse lol 04:29 SirDigby It all started with cod 4 04:30 Peacock they closed the Cod and salmon fisheries here, environmental reasons 04:30 SirDigby right 04:30 Peacock just kidding :p 04:30 Peacock those modern FPS where people actually talk to eachother (teamspeak shit), i find that repulsive lol 04:31 Peacock you can practically hear the greasy 12 year old breathing down nacho cheese 04:31 Peacock and theres always that one kid on the game whos like this: http://youtu.be/q8SWMAQYQf0 04:32 SirDigby Well cod people and really everyone on xbox are just pre teens and teens insulting each other, may as well be free for all 04:32 SirDigby and up in till last year tf2 on pc master race was actual team play 04:32 SirDigby or you didn't win the map 04:32 Peacock seriously, if you wanna know who your mother slept with, xbox is the place to go XD 04:33 SirDigby I find it fucked up that my 60+ year old mother is sleeping with 12 year olds 04:33 Peacock and apparently 90% of xbox users are gay, in stark contrast to the real world XD 04:34 SirDigby Naturaly I confronted her upon learning of this down right morally wrong and illegal activity. 04:36 SirDigby It's to sad that they feel the need to slander homosexual African Americans 04:36 Peacock oh yeah i forgot about the racial epithets lol 04:37 Peacock nevermind the fact that i've yet to cross a single african here or on any other game 04:37 Peacock (apparently they dig up the internet cables as fast as the companies can bury them) 04:42 Peacock "Jerry Seinfeld is planning a comeback reunion" NOOOOOOOOOO! 04:43 PapaJacky you must not play enough games then 04:43 VanessaE bbl, bedtime 04:44 Peacock well im pushing 30 so no lol not that many these days 04:44 Peacock besides they're all starting to suck, they even found a way to ruin simcity 04:44 PapaJacky yeah it really just depends on the type of games you play 04:45 Peacock i tend to prefer builder games since FPS all tend to be the same 04:46 Peacock the only thing thats changed in FPS's since my childhood and now is I fought nazis kids today fight the chinese or arabs lol 04:46 Peacock Return to Castle Wolfenstein is still my favorite lol 04:46 PapaJacky it's probably because sim games have a small community in comparison to other gaming communities 04:46 PapaJacky like there are plenty of black guys in the fgc 04:46 Peacock fgc? 04:47 PapaJacky fighting games community 04:47 Peacock well black isn't the same as actually living in Africa, there are plenty of black guys in Europe and North America :P 04:47 PapaJacky oh 04:47 PapaJacky well that's probably just because there are probably less gamers in africa in general lol 04:48 Peacock well yeah, even in the first world we have problems with copper thieves, imagine cable thefts in Africa, most of them use cellphones to go online 04:49 Peacock (and no not because of anyones colour :P scrap metal is worth alot to anyone who's poor regardless of colour) 04:50 Peacock besides most of the poor people in Canada are as white as snow (another thing we got in abundance lol) 04:55 paramat Peacock, finally ... :P' ... im getting somewhere with the ice, biome blend plus thinning away from islands http://i.imgur.com/uuCaSDq.png 04:55 Peacock cool, seems to reflect the shape of the coastline 04:57 paramat yep :D i had better push this now ... i love pushing the git master's origin 05:00 Peacock sounds good, ill update tomorrow, i haven't played much today after spending most of last night on that bridge lol 06:00 Peacock so im checking out Dark Touch, the trailer makes it look like a modern Children of the Corn, though if they modernized that old movie and made it for geeks it would probably be called Children of Cron 06:30 sfan5 VanessaE: I wasn't able to use nodeboxes when I wrote the oil mod 10:45 * Jordach will attempt to make a proper 2D mapgen 10:46 * Peacock will attempt to conquer Persia (like Alexander the Great) 10:49 Jordach if you google perlin noise Lua, the Minetest API.txt appears 10:50 Peacock googling doc lua api txt gives the same result :P 10:53 Peacock though, i googled it millions of times, and clicked on the appropriate link, so if im not the only one doing that, it shouldn't surprise lol 10:59 Jordach fuck it, i'll go write my own noise algor 11:00 reactor Anyone yet created a mod that randomly replaced blocks? 11:00 reactor (need to make stone roads look older, don't know what to use to automate that) 11:06 Peacock reactor i wrote a decay mod a long time ago,just code an abm that randomly replaces road material with graffiti/cracked versions of the same thing 11:08 reactor good 11:14 Megaf Good &(date) everyone 11:17 Peacock and matinal felicitations to you 11:22 * Jordach takes the booze away from Peacock 11:23 * Megaf is creating a new shell script 11:24 Peacock thats not fair, i got one beer left and then its time for 7am dinner :p 11:33 VanessaE sfan5: actually I was referring to your textures, not your models :P 11:33 VanessaE good morning all 11:35 Jordach morning VanessaE 11:35 * Jordach has a 4 day weekend 11:35 Peacock 4 day weekend? when u start workin? 11:35 Jordach Peacock, school's closed today, and i've got no lessons monday 11:36 Peacock ah school that makes sense 11:36 Jordach derp 11:37 Jordach !c 30*300 11:37 MinetestBot 9000 11:37 Jordach !c 9000*6 11:37 MinetestBot 54000 11:37 Jordach fuck 11:37 Peacock well 4 day weekends feel a lot better when you're miserable (working) :P 11:38 Megaf morning VanessaE 11:38 Megaf VanessaE: any way to make moretrees mod more independent and lightweight? 11:38 Peacock removing it, but that kindof defeats the purpose :P 11:38 VanessaE it only relies on plants_lib and it only spanws saplings at mapgen time 11:39 Peacock alternatively, disable the spawning code :P 11:39 VanessaE it's not possible to make it any more lightweight than it is now 11:39 VanessaE you could rewrite plants_lib to use vmanip maybe, or that decorations code that was being worked on, but I've no idea how either of those works 11:40 VanessaE or if that would help at all, let alone whether it would even work right 11:40 Peacock lsystems is fast enough, its the spawning code thats a huge drag 11:40 VanessaE Peacock: nope.avi 11:40 VanessaE lsystems is fast, it's the *lighting* code that's slow 11:40 VanessaE the evaluation code is fast, less than 100ms per chunk typical 11:41 VanessaE placing a tree is fast, a few ms 11:41 Peacock well enough servers disabled the spawning part to know what lags :P 11:41 VanessaE but *building* the tree is slow, and that's entirely inside the engine. 11:41 VanessaE so I disabled spawning whole trees at mapgen time by default a LONG time ago. 11:41 VanessaE I only spawn saplings. 11:41 VanessaE anyone who hasn't updated moretrees to account for that just doesn't care 11:42 Peacock well engine lighting sucks regardless of what anyone tries to do with it 11:42 Peacock though i skipped the whole ongen and abm phase by having the saplings generate the trees on place 11:45 VanessaE the saplings are a rapid-growing kind that users can't get or place normally, they start growing within about 10 seconds of being spawned, that way the world doesn't take too long to build up 11:45 VanessaE but the mapgen doesn't get lagged out by it 11:45 VanessaE (an abm handles the growth after the saplings are spawned by the mapgen) 11:47 Megaf I see 11:54 Megaf quite hard to play minetest via VNC 12:10 Jordach VanessaE, generating a titanic render (mainly most of my models that I've made before) 12:13 Jordach hey Rhy5 12:13 Rhy5 Hey Jordach. :) 12:13 Jordach Rhy5, last night i was working with ChainLynx (hint, he's got a special G6 model that's custom built) 12:13 Rhy5 Ok? 12:14 Jordach and i'm working on a final wallpaper 12:14 Rhy5 Very nice. :) 12:15 Rhy5 Are you good with nodeboxes btw Jordach? 12:16 Jordach no 12:16 Jordach nodeboxes are not my thing 12:16 Rhy5 Hmm... 12:17 Rhy5 Do you know anybody who can help me? 12:22 Jordach Blender Fail 2: forget to remove doubles on a transparent material 12:28 sfan5 hi everyone 12:28 * sfan5 throws a kitten-in-a-box at Jordach 12:29 Jordach meow 12:29 Jordach sfan5, just experimenting with something awesome 12:29 sfan5 tell meh 12:30 Megaf anyone with a little time to help to test my server? 12:30 VanessaE yet another minecraft render... 12:31 Megaf sfan5: a kitten-in-a-box would be really sucefull in Japan 12:32 Jordach plol' http://i.imgur.com/s0nGyN6.png 12:32 Jordach VanessaE, wrong wrong wrong wrong 12:32 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/oEqntXV.png 12:33 VanessaE oh, imagine that... it's minetest-related for once :P 12:33 Jordach 12:33 VanessaE sorry to be so cynical 12:33 Jordach that wallpaper topic resurfaced for air 12:34 Jordach i thought i'd make use of my four days off 12:34 VanessaE but you've been rather obsessed with MC for a while now. 12:34 Megaf lol, doritos flavour 12:36 Megaf does that looks ok? http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media 12:36 VanessaE Megaf: yeah, but not port 8080 12:36 VanessaE it needs to be on port 80. 12:36 Megaf why? 12:36 VanessaE (afaik) 12:36 VanessaE because that's where minetest goes to get it from. 12:37 VanessaE unless there's some extra bit I'm unaware of 12:37 VanessaE try it and see if it works? 12:37 Megaf VanessaE: remote_media = http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/ 12:37 VanessaE well try it, maybe it'll work 12:37 VanessaE dunn 12:37 VanessaE dunno 12:37 VanessaE but the structure seems right 12:38 sfan5 !title 12:38 MinetestBot sfan5: Index of /media/ 12:38 Megaf VanessaE: can you try please? megaf.no-ip.info 30003 12:38 VanessaE just make sure each of the files present there is the exact file that will be sent by your minetest server had the media not exited. 12:38 VanessaE existed. 12:39 Megaf nobody will have interact privs by the way 12:39 Megaf I'm just testing some stuff first 12:39 VanessaE 07:39:03: INFO[main]: Client: Failed to remote-fetch 1318 files. Requesting them the usual way. 12:40 VanessaE 07:39:03: INFO[CurlFetchThread]: http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/index.mth no 12:40 VanessaE t found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 417) 12:40 VanessaE I told you you need to fix that 12:40 sfan5 Megaf: I'm sure they have 猫-in-a-箱 in japan already 12:40 Megaf VanessaE: That's really too bad 12:40 VanessaE you need to return 404, not 417. 12:40 VanessaE fix your webserver. 12:41 sfan5 Megaf: try this script for remote-media: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560 12:41 Megaf sfan5: I used this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69079#p69079 12:42 VanessaE I told you you need to fix that error code! fix your G*d damned webserver FIRST 12:43 Megaf VanessaE: it gives 404 for me 12:44 VanessaE the curl/media fetch code bugs out when the server returns anything other than 404 for a file not found. 12:44 VanessaE well maybe a browser gets a 404, but the minetest client gets a 417 from your webserver. 12:45 Megaf whats that mht thing anyway? 12:45 VanessaE idk, a hashed list of files or something, I don't know exactly how it works 12:45 Megaf sfan5: the index.mht file should or should not be there? 12:45 VanessaE fix your webserver to return proper error codes and try sfan5's script. 12:47 VanessaE Megaf: 12:47 VanessaE 07:50:38: INFO[CurlFetchThread]: http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) 12:47 VanessaE that's MY webserver. 12:47 VanessaE I also don't use the index.mth as you can see, 12:47 VanessaE but nginx returns a proper 404. 12:48 VanessaE because it returns a 404: 12:48 VanessaE 07:50:38: INFO[main]: Client: Enabling compatibility mode for remote server "http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/" 12:48 twoelk|2 Megaf: Error[CurlFetchThread]: select returned error code 10022 - ERROR[MeshUpdateThread]: Waiting for solids_shader timed out 12:49 VanessaE but the client doesn't do this on your server because you return code 417, which causes the curl fetch code to bug out. kahrl knows about this already. until it can be fixed (and even when it is), you need to make your webserver properly return a 404 12:49 VanessaE twoelk|2: that's a client bug. 12:49 twoelk|2 :-( 12:49 VanessaE happens to me in singplayer. Megaf, ignore that shader thing. 12:49 Megaf VanessaE: well, so I'm not using that remote_media thing, I have no idea how to fix that in Lighttpd 12:50 VanessaE Megaf: just look it up, I'm sure there's some documentation somewhere. it's probably related to the USER_AGENT being sent by the minetest client. 12:50 VanessaE just a rough guess 12:50 VanessaE because I can also attempt a wget of http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/index.mth and I get a 404 that way also. 12:51 VanessaE you could just ditch lighttpd and use nginx or something else that works :P 12:51 Megaf lighttpd is fast and lightweight 12:51 VanessaE "fast and lightweight" means exactly dick 12:52 VanessaE what matters is WHAT you send 12:52 VanessaE not HOW you send it 12:52 VanessaE you're not serving up a media-heavy website to millions of clients 12:52 VanessaE you could just as well be running apache and you probably wouldn't notice a difference :P 12:52 VanessaE and besides, nginx works pretty well 12:54 Megaf ok, im installing nginx 12:54 sfan5 Megaf: try this first: http://www.lighttpd.net/2009/2/16/1-4-21-yes-we-can-do-another-release/ 12:54 sfan5 New setting to disable returning of a 417 if “Expect: 100-continue” header is given: server.reject-expect-100-with-417 = “disable” 12:55 VanessaE there you go, Megaf 12:55 VanessaE told you to look it up first... 12:56 VanessaE and that was in Feb. 2009..... 12:57 Megaf sfan5: oh dear, thanks, 13:00 VanessaE Megaf: ready to try again? 13:00 Megaf nope 13:00 Megaf I was configuring nginx when sfan told me about that 13:00 Megaf Now I will try to make lighttpd work 13:00 VanessaE ok 13:03 Megaf VanessaE: ok, ready 13:03 VanessaE 08:03:25: INFO[CurlFetchThread]: http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) 13:03 VanessaE 08:03:25: INFO[main]: Client: Enabling compatibility mode for remote server "http://megaf.no-ip.info:8080/media/" 13:03 VanessaE MUCH BETTER 13:04 VanessaE and no "Failed" notice in the log 13:04 VanessaE means ALL of your files went through cURL 13:04 VanessaE congratulations. 13:08 Megaf Thanks VanessaE, really =) 13:08 VanessaE thank sfan5, he found the cause :) 13:09 VanessaE I just kicked your ass to make you look into it closer :) 13:09 sfan5 no,no,no 13:09 sfan5 I just googled "lighttpd 417" 13:09 Megaf so did I 13:09 Megaf but you found the answer faster than me 13:10 Megaf I actually duckedduckedgoed :P 13:10 pitriss I want to ask.. when in technic mod in textures directory exists also hires directory with hires textures.. are those hires textures loaded? or game doesn't look into texture subdirectories? 13:12 sfan5 pitriss: I don't think it looks into subdirs 13:12 pitriss sfan5: ok, thanks.. 13:16 Megaf VanessaE: ok, now nginx is working 13:18 VanessaE well you don't need nginx now that you have lighttpd working.... 13:18 VanessaE you duckduckgo'd....or you duckduckwen't? ;) 13:18 VanessaE you duckduckgo'd....or you duckduckwent* ? ;) 13:19 Megaf Let's say that I duckducked, simpler 13:21 Megaf sfan5: so, is that any good reason to have index.mht? 13:21 sfan5 mth* 13:21 sfan5 yes 13:21 sfan5 IIRC it makes downloading faster or something 13:24 Megaf sfan5: whats that $f thing? 13:24 sfan5 Megaf: a variable 13:25 Megaf ok, I found the read f now 13:25 Megaf now it makes sense 13:28 Megaf https://paste.debian.net/79473/ 13:29 Megaf done missing, fixed 13:58 Jordach lol, blender has an automated blocky clouds feature 14:18 Jordach okay, much better 14:18 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/gFFlDS5.png 14:21 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/0K3yzrT.jpg 14:21 VanessaE awwwwwwww 14:21 Jordach purrrrrr 14:30 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:30 reactor Elo. 14:30 reactor *sneeze* 14:36 Jordach mmm, chili heatwave doritos 14:38 PilzAdam mmm, humans 14:46 Exio4 hmm, brains 14:47 Exio4 oh, this is minetest 14:47 Exio4 brb searching brains in other channel 14:51 * Jordach sets the channel track to Daft Punk 14:55 * PilzAdam sets the channel track to "Jordach singing in the shower" 14:55 Jordach plol 14:59 reactor шЙТЗСИВ. 15:14 * sfan5 throws a Toaster at PilzAdam 15:15 * PilzAdam makes some toast 15:16 sfan5 no,no,no you got it all wrong 15:16 PilzAdam no toats? 15:16 PilzAdam *toast 15:18 sfan5 I threw this at you: http://i.imgur.com/hoCnvm7.png 15:22 sfan5 ehhh.. what? http://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromThePizzaGuy/comments/1wldh6/you_could_have_gotten_away_if_it_wasnt_for_your/cf3dzmv 15:25 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on john_minetest's head 15:26 * PilzAdam gives john_minetest some toast 15:26 MinetestBot 4- 15:26 * Jordach hands PilzAdam farming:bread 15:26 * sfan5 puts Derpy on john_minetest's head 15:27 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.tan(c[0]+3.7582)*10) % 0x13)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'mefkVajmlucut+ hif}f')) 15:27 MinetestBot 'john_minetest: hello' 15:28 sfan5 derpy and purple, lol 15:28 sfan5 !g derpy mlp 15:28 MinetestBot sfan5: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Derpy 15:28 PilzAdam Derpy looks kinda derpy 15:28 sfan5 much purple 15:28 Krock Hi 15:31 Jordach hold on 15:31 * Jordach defuses the question 15:33 Jordach +1 http://imgur.com/gallery/iHnbahA 15:34 PilzAdam s/german/bavarian/ 15:34 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/sU6i2GE.png 15:34 Jordach ^ proof for the masses 15:43 Jordach !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.tan(c[0]+3.7582)*10) % 0x13)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), "mefkVajmlucut+ hif}f")) 15:43 MinetestBot 'john_minetest: hello' 15:43 Jordach why does it still do that? 15:43 Jordach those quotes annoy me 15:44 sfan5 Jordach: still do that? 15:44 sfan5 MinetestBot uses repr, that's why there are quotes 15:44 Jordach [15:43:38] 'john_minetest: hello' 15:44 Jordach those goddamn '' 16:12 Megaf_ Am I the only one who finds this quite beautiful? http://paste.debian.net/79487/ 16:27 EvergreenTree o/ 16:27 PilzAdam o/ 16:29 PenguinDad o\ 16:29 EvergreenTree ohai PenguinDad 16:38 PilzAdam one apple a day keeps the doctor away 16:38 PilzAdam since you dont have money to pay them anymore 16:42 PilzAdam but has it an apple on it? 16:43 Jordach the only thing apple did right was the fucking iPad 16:43 * sfan5 tapes an apple to PilzAdam's forehead 16:44 Jordach add a stand, usable keyboard that my fingers can type with 16:44 Kray john_minetest is angry because he doesn't have enough money to buy proper hardware 16:44 sfan5 proper hardware is not neccessarily apple 16:44 Jordach john_minetest, agreed 16:45 Kray lol poor 16:45 sfan5 john_minetest: you have enough money, will you buy me a 1080p monitor then? 16:45 Jordach i'd buy an Air - buy they're still to expensive 16:45 Jordach (MacBook( 16:45 Jordach john_minetest, they're excellent content creators 16:45 EvergreenTree Kray, why would you spend 1000USD on a 400USD laptop? 16:45 Jordach especially for rendering video 16:46 EvergreenTree even if you had money 16:46 Kray why would anyone? 16:46 EvergreenTree Don't say "lol poor" if they are actually being wise with their money 16:49 sfan5 john_minetest: install mac os x on your computer. 16:50 sfan5 don't tell me that is in their EULA 16:51 Jordach fuck tha law 16:51 sfan5 because wikipedia says EULA's not agreed upon at the time of buying are not valid in germany 16:51 sfan5 dualboot? 16:51 PilzAdam *tux 16:52 sfan5 wut do you wants? quadboot? 16:52 sfan5 hm 16:53 sfan5 how about torrenting it from somewhere, you're not agreeing on anything then 16:54 Jordach you know you're having a shit day when: http://i.imgur.com/ePEBbCU.png 16:55 Jordach not even my hat wants to work right :) 16:59 Jordach john_minetest, test renders up until the real thing TM 17:12 EvergreenTree john_minetest, modeling is the hardest part of blender (for me) 17:13 EvergreenTree hm, part of the problem is I don't really know what I want to do 17:45 Megaf john_minetest: actually I paied more for the build quality 17:45 Megaf a solid block of aluminium 17:46 Megaf it survived already to quite a lot of drops, even on concrete and a car/bike accident 17:46 Megaf only with minor scraches 17:46 Megaf we we get what we pay for 17:46 Megaf so we* 17:47 Megaf and its from mid 2010 17:47 SmugLeaf hmm? 17:47 Megaf battery still lasts up to 10 hours running Snow Leopard nad 3 hours running GNU/Linux 17:49 SmugLeaf when you make the OS and the hardware you better be able to save every last drop of battery 17:50 Megaf and when new it used to last up to 15 hours (wifi off) 17:51 Megaf and still now a days, in standby lasts for, man, no idea, a month at least 17:56 Megaf SmugLeaf: actually I think Snow Leopard will be almost as power efficient on a PC as is on a Mac 17:57 Megaf Lion, Mountain Lion and Mavericks doest lasts nearly as long as Snow Leopard 17:58 us_0gb Megaf: On GNU/Linux, what desktop are you using? Maybe the desktop is draining power like crazy. 17:59 mid-kid You also have to look for drivers. The propietary Radeon driver on my laptop drains a lot less than the open source one. 18:00 Megaf mid-kid: yep, the nvidia driver will give be up to an hour of battery over nouveau 18:00 Megaf on my macbook pro 18:01 us_0gb Hmm. Yeah, there could be that. I'm told the machine I'm getting only gets one to two or three hours of battery life with its default setup (GNU/Linux/GNOME/free drivers/free firmware). 18:01 Megaf us_0gb: my desktop is an Asus motherboard with an AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE (3,2Ghz) but mosto f the time is at 800 MHz 18:01 Megaf and open source radeon driver 18:01 Megaf ATI HD 4200 18:06 us_0gb Megaf: Sorry, I'm not good with hardware. Is that good or bad?> 18:11 us_0gb Funny you should say that. The laptop I'm waiting for in the mail is an old Lenovo x60. 18:12 mid-kid Coreboot FTW. Just saying. 18:13 us_0gb It's too bad it's supported by so few machines. I'd love to use it on something newer. 18:14 twoelk old Lenovo as in Thinkpad? 18:14 us_0gb Oh, my condolences. 😢 18:14 us_0gb twoelk: Yeah, it's a Thinkpad. 18:15 * twoelk had one of those Thinkpad=indestructable but ugly 18:15 mid-kid Personally, I'm not really fond of old, bulky laptops. Unless they are powerful. 18:17 mid-kid Screw touch screens. I want it. 18:18 twoelk indeed working with old hardware isn't much fun but most stuff that is real fun isn't very reliable 18:18 us_0gb john_minetest: Wow, that's trippy. 18:22 twoelk The old Thinkpads were pretty robust (I abused them in many ways), I'm not sure with the new Lenovos and wonder what happens after the Motorola deal 18:22 us_0gb I've actually got a large scratch across my monitor. THat's not why I'm getting a new one though. I'm just tired of graphical bugs caused by firmware issues. 18:23 mid-kid Meh, I just get the cheapest with the best specs I can find. Usually it's pretty shiny 'n stuff, and gets many scratches on the case, but as long as I'm careful, it's ok. 18:23 us_0gb I'm told the only firmware issues the x60 has are with the wireless card. And that's been swapped out with something compatible. 18:25 us_0gb I've never owned a new computer. Second-hand is all I know. 18:26 Jordach ^ 18:26 us_0gb I was finally going to get a new one, but then that blasted BIOS got in the way. It prevents you from installing unapproved wireless cards on your own machine. So I went with the Coreboot one instead. 18:27 us_0gb And Coreboot of course means old. 18:27 mid-kid Usually the second-hands I find are too expensive for what they offer. I end up getting a better new one for the same price. 18:28 us_0gb Yeah, sometimes newer machines are less expansive for some reason. 18:28 us_0gb Not in the case of what I was looking at though. I wanted a ThinkPenguin. 18:29 mid-kid ^ 18:32 us_0gb The problem with "open source laptops" is that the parts makers do not cooperate. 18:34 us_0gb Not fully open source. 18:34 us_0gb Look at the BIOS. 18:36 us_0gb It'd Okay, you might be onto something then. 18:36 us_0gb -"It'd " 18:37 Jordach not really, any kind of DC jack will do 18:39 Jordach john_minetest, my cheap ass droid tablet has one 18:51 MinetestBot john_minetest: A.de: Günstige Preise für Elektronik, Foto, Filme, Musik, Bücher, Games, Spielzeug, Sportartikel [...] 19:00 EvergreenTree o/ 19:03 us_0gb Hey EvergreenTree! 19:05 ShadowNinja ~translate de to en 19:05 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Format and 02G04o08o02g03l04e plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate". 19:06 ShadowNinja ~google translate de to en 19:06 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: john_minetest : A.de : Online Shopping for Electronics , Photo , Movies , music, books , games, toys, sporting goods [ ... ] 19:12 sfan5 yay! the new receiver records TV in a computer readable format at 720p 19:20 grondilu Are you guys interested in "EverQuest Next: landmark" ? Looks like it's going to be the next big thing in sandbox games. I'd love to see an FOSS alternative to that. 19:23 us_0gb The site isn't really showing me much. From the looks of it, most of the content is loaded through JavaScript, which is disabled. 19:24 us_0gb But I'm always up for trying a free game, if a free alternative to EverQuest Next: landmark turns up. 19:26 harrison | _,.,---'''''''---..._ | 19:26 harrison | _.-' ? `-._ | 19:26 harrison | ,' ? + _ thinking | 19:26 harrison | ,' ? ? ,'|,,'/ `. | 19:26 harrison |/ ' ' / is hard. my \ | 19:26 harrison || ? ,-o o | | 19:26 harrison |'. _' ,- head hurts. ,' | 19:26 harrison | \ | /' / | 19:26 harrison | `._ '-- _,' | 19:26 harrison | `-.__ __.-' | 19:26 harrison | ``---.......---'' | 19:26 harrison '`''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' 19:27 sfan5 ShadowBot! 19:27 sfan5 why doesn't it do anything? 19:27 xnrand been haxed by harrison probably 19:28 specing maybe ShadowBot values ascii art 19:31 us_0gb Of course. ShadowBot can't see PNG images. For it to understand a picture, it must be in ASCII. ShadowBot likes being able to see the art. 19:31 grondilu us_0gb: check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETXtqmOjRm8 for an intro about EVQN:l 19:32 us_0gb grondilu: YouTube doesn't work without JavaScript either. 19:32 grondilu clive? 19:32 sfan5 !title 19:32 MinetestBot sfan5: What is EverQuest Next: Landmark? - YouTube 19:34 grondilu they are using quite a new engine though, so it's going to be hard to beat with free software. 19:35 harrison great video 19:35 harrison the building tools 19:35 us_0gb I probably couldn't run it anyway. I'm on a laptop. 19:35 us_0gb It's too bad laptops lack the power of desktops. 19:35 harrison you also could never run the voxel raytracer thing i am coding 19:35 grondilu yeah you'd need quite powerful hardware. And a broadband connection. 19:36 harrison it needs mad cpu 19:37 grondilu they published requirements lately: https://www.eqnlandmark.com/news/eqn-landmark-alpha-system-requirements-january-23-2014-eql 19:38 grondilu toughest part is the 10Mbits/sec broadband 19:39 EvergreenTree a little late ShadowBot? 19:39 ShadowNinja sfan5: You kept making me adjust it to a smaller interval until it won't catch that. 19:39 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I did? 19:40 ShadowNinja Well, maybe not you specifically, but other staff. 19:44 us_0gb It looks GIMPed. I don't think it's real. 20:01 PilzAdam topic of the day: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=127996#p127996 20:02 ShadowNinja Hehe. 20:18 Jordach sfan5, i'm surprised you've not attempted to add perlin noise to this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8443 20:20 sfan5 are you sure you mean me? 20:20 Jordach mhm 20:20 sfan5 I'm not the person who wants perlin noise for everything 20:20 Jordach sfan5, i can't do better with my shitty method 20:21 sfan5 just compile .cpp to .lua and you're done /s 20:21 Jordach lua doesn't have bitwise ops 20:21 * Jordach grabs Calinou's skin and goes to render it 20:22 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add propper client initialization e258675eab 2014-01-31T09:44:43-08:00 http://git.io/8JcPYA 20:22 * sfan5 puts a 猫 on Jordach 20:22 PilzAdam sfan5, thats racist 20:22 sfan5 ? 20:23 PilzAdam you know exactly what I mean 20:23 sfan5 no I don't 20:23 PilzAdam ok, me neither 20:24 sfan5 *note to self:* PilzAdam thinks it's racist to put the kanji for cat on people 20:24 Jordach hahahahahahahahaha 20:24 PilzAdam I should stop writing something random while being bored... 20:24 Jordach omfg 20:24 Jordach no fuckin way 20:24 Jordach NO FUCKING WAY 20:24 sfan5 ? 20:24 Jordach fuck me that's laughable 20:25 PilzAdam public class Jordach implements Laughable 20:26 Jordach >imports Calinou's MC skin, >http://i.imgur.com/bDVOxu4.png 20:26 sfan5 Jordach: add my skin plz 20:27 Jordach Calinou, replace your face with a trollface then we're good to go :P 20:27 Jordach pfft 20:27 Jordach sfan5, all you're getting is the zombie model (not the super shiny human model) 20:29 sfan5 :-( 20:30 Jordach because one side doesnt work 20:35 Tux[Qyou] *tux 20:35 Tux[Qyou] wut 20:35 Tux[Qyou] also PilzAdam ##werewolf 20:35 PilzAdam that one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux 20:41 ShadowNinja I saw someone playing MC with a big modpack. (FTB) Even with all of the client side code and textures it was SLOW. Took about five minutes to start and a minute to connect. We are far ahead of modded MC speed-wise. And I bet we do better even without any mods. :-D 20:43 FreeFull FTB is a huge modpack 20:43 FreeFull So having fast everything really counts 20:44 ShadowNinja How long does MC take to start and connect unmodded? 20:45 ShadowNinja Both are <1s in Minetest. 20:49 Jordach ShadowNinja, but playing the actual game, FTB is faster than Minetest 20:52 sfan5 Jordach: I have found a good portable computer for you: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfVgYPACYAAZ5Zs.jpg 20:53 Jordach sfan5, the PI works 20:53 sfan5 yo haz a pi? 20:54 Jordach will be getting another one 20:54 Jordach dammit, rendered sfan5 in shadeless mode 20:56 Jordach john_minetest, PIVISR 20:56 Jordach think VR + Google Glass 20:56 ShadowNinja Jordach: Yes, client-side Lua should fix that. What are MC's times? 20:57 Jordach john_minetest, oculus rift isnt transparent on the other side 20:57 Jordach i want to use the damn thing while out and about 20:57 * sfan5 throws http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138733896281 at Jordach 20:58 Jordach john_minetest, oculus rift isn't ready for use 20:58 Jordach and they're huge, compared to 87% transparent plexiglass 20:58 Jordach which can be several MM thick 21:00 Jordach john_minetest, i only plan to have a ghostly interface (actual VR would need more oomph) 21:00 Jordach think Iron Man style HUD 21:00 Jordach sfan5, dat heatsink tho 21:01 Jordach i could always add vents on the back 21:03 sfan5 Jordach: but heatsinks are quiet 21:03 Jordach sfan5, hot metal near skin 21:04 sfan5 Jordach, proper packaging 21:05 Jordach sfan5, i could always add a copper pipe to act as a head warmer 21:05 sfan5 exactly 21:05 sfan5 would be perfect for this kind of wheather 21:05 Jordach but then i have to reconfigure my CAD design a bit 21:05 ShadowNinja Jordach: *ahem* ^ 21:06 Jordach ShadowNinja, dafuq 21:06 Jordach john_minetest, this thing covers the entire face 21:06 Jordach think riot helmet that displays data realtime 21:07 Jordach john_minetest, i meant the idea of google glass; easily accessible data 21:07 Jordach without having to use a tablet or phone 21:08 ShadowNinja Jordach: What are MC's times? 21:08 Jordach so then i could check RSS feeds (eg, BBC news, weather) and listen to music, watch a film and browse comics without resorting to my tablet 21:08 Jordach ShadowNinja, ~1 minute for tekkit, ~10+ minutes for VanessaE's survival server 21:09 ShadowNinja Jordach: No, what are MC's unmodded startup and connection times? 21:10 Jordach ShadowNinja, ~13 seconds on a Pentium 4 21:10 Jordach ~5 seconds for a multiplayer server 21:10 Jordach (startup / loading multiplayer server) 21:10 sfan5 pfff.. what are they saying: http://i.imgur.com/89kRn13.png all wrong! 21:11 ShadowNinja What about singleplayer? 21:11 Jordach ShadowNinja, ~15 seconds due to hard drive 21:11 Jordach might be instant in an SSD 21:11 ShadowNinja What is it loading that takes 15 seconds? 21:12 Jordach chunks and mobs 21:12 Jordach and active redstone machiners 21:12 Jordach machinery* 21:13 Jordach but that WILL BE MULTIPLIED on a more modern 64 Bit syste, 21:14 Jordach ShadowNinja, try the minecraft demo 21:15 Jordach MC also has block prediction (i've never had blocks rubber band) 21:16 ShadowNinja Minetest has node placement prediction (nodePlacementPrediction(), game.cpp) 21:16 Jordach ShadowNinja, i can build at ~12 blocks a second and no blocks go missing unlike minetest 21:17 Jordach because minetest slows down block build updates 21:17 ShadowNinja Redstone is part of chunks, those should only take a few miliseconds to load even on the slowest hard drives. 21:17 ShadowNinja ~12/sec? How do you place that fast? 21:18 Jordach ShadowNinja, on some FPS games, i can drain a pistol's magazine in a half a second 21:18 ShadowNinja And I only get missing nodes on slower servers. 21:18 Jordach my fingers are accustomed to speed clicking 21:18 ShadowNinja Heh. 21:18 Jordach i also position them strangely; i place two fingers on LMB and ARC my middle for RMB 21:19 Jordach (never use the middle part of the finger to click, make an "n" shape and use the tip 21:23 Jordach oh, and use the literal top of the mouse button / key 21:23 blaise someone highlighted me some time ago and I cannot find it in the buffer 21:23 sfan5 blaise: /usr/bin/grep 21:23 blaise I tried it 21:23 Jordach blaise, http://irc.minetest.ru 21:23 blaise lmao 21:23 sfan5 Jordach: up for a game Xonotic/RedEclipse/whatever? 21:23 Jordach sfan5, working blender still 21:24 * sfan5 goes play OpenSpades 21:25 ShadowNinja blaise: Nothing in my logs for the past two or three days. 21:26 blaise hrmm 21:26 blaise I couldn't find it 21:26 blaise oh well 21:26 blaise I'm sure if it was important they'll private message me or something 21:27 Jordach blaise, or use memoserv 21:32 sfan5 visual basic 21:32 sfan5 lol 21:32 Jordach technically correct 21:33 FreeFull I don't know Visual Basic 21:37 * sfan5 knows how to use Visual Basic 21:46 Jordach http://youtu.be/H1UuaadB1W4?t=1m53s 21:57 PilzAdam Jordach, do you want it to be released to the public? 21:57 Jordach mm?! 21:57 PilzAdam the .blend file, see the video you linked 21:58 Jordach PilzAdam, later 21:58 Jordach there is a prototype G6 model floating around with a public link 22:03 Jordach Calinou, SNAP! 22:03 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/vTNp7yT.png 22:03 ShadowNinja Calinou: Um, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=TODO&curid=365&diff=1717&oldid=1640 22:05 Jordach * Make gold not look like American cheese <- lol'd 22:07 * Jordach has that sense that Calinou is watching clop 22:09 Jordach rendering preliminary 1080p render 22:09 Jordach s/render/wallpape 22:09 Jordach r* 22:11 ShadowNinja Calinou: My MoreBlocks rewrite should be ready now. But you should look over it. And BTW, my patch is bigger than the entire mod (after the patch, I think it's bigger than the mod before the patch too). 22:38 PilzAdam john_minetest, brave american soldiers fighting the terrorism on the world 22:41 sfan5 wtf am I reading: http://i.imgur.com/KtqlGVi.png 22:43 VanessaE "americans" don't. 22:43 VanessaE the american GOVERNMENT does. 22:44 VanessaE and we have little control over it anymore, it's bought and aid for by the big corps :-/ 22:44 PilzAdam VanessaE, the government represents the americans, though 22:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: nope.avi 22:44 ShadowNinja ^ Otherwise you're commiting the falacy of hypostatization. 22:45 sfan5 john_minetest: but Hitler used (kinda) unfair methods to get more power 22:46 sfan5 not as far as I know 22:46 sfan5 anyway, good night 22:47 PilzAdam bye 23:12 Jordach oOChainLynxOo, you should have a tab at the top with my name on, click it 23:17 blaise lolzomfg 23:30 Jordach hey EvergreenTree 23:30 EvergreenTree hello 23:33 EvergreenTree Ohai oOChainLynxOo 23:33 oOChainLynxOo Hi EvergreenTree 23:34 oOChainLynxOo Jordach has talked me into doing a threeway survival Minecraft with me, you, and him 23:35 Jordach with multiple PoV 23:36 Jordach EvergreenTree, wallpaper scene is done, rendering it now :) 23:37 Jordach right, oOChainLynxOo you're GMT-8 right 23:38 Jordach i know EvergreenTree is -7 23:38 EvergreenTree -7? 23:38 oOChainLynxOo Eastern yes 23:38 EvergreenTree oh yes, 7pm 23:39 EvergreenTree Jordach, it must be really late where you live 23:39 Jordach now that i have a sense of time, i can prepare my own timetable up so we don't have conflicts 23:40 EvergreenTree Jordach, Nice! 23:40 Jordach that's why i need timezone data 23:41 oOChainLynxOo I remember on the forum after I posted the Mese shirt pic people started saying that I looked like Jordach 23:41 oOChainLynxOo We both disagree 23:41 Jordach oOChainLynxOo, it's worse, in real life, me and Calinou both have the identical appearance 23:41 oOChainLynxOo O.o 23:41 Jordach beard, green eyes, curly hair 23:43 oOChainLynxOo Lol 23:43 Jordach bleh, this cough will be the end of me 23:44 Jordach and yes, i've once swallowed a battery :> 23:44 oOChainLynxOo O.O 23:44 Jordach i did get guitar hero out of it (and promptly mastered it) 23:44 Jordach not to mention eating ice cream and soft foods for 4 weeks 23:45 oOChainLynxOo Ice cream... 23:45 oOChainLynxOo Bleh, Guitar Hero 23:45 oOChainLynxOo If you are a real guitarist then Guitar Hero will be boring 23:45 Jordach oOChainLynxOo, they've tried beating me with DLC songs that are hard as nails 23:45 Jordach i still beat them everytime 23:45 oOChainLynxOo Lol 23:47 Jordach at my college, we had a smash bros tournament, i won it by 1 point 23:47 Jordach my nintendo nerd of a teacher was second :P 23:47 oOChainLynxOo Lol 23:47 Jordach EvergreenTree, prepare to render me it (i've found two bugs now) 23:48 Jordach i was trolling as Captain Falcon, they wised up to my tactics; i played as mario on the last round 23:48 oOChainLynxOo Haha! 23:49 Jordach lol wrong button 23:49 oOChainLynxOo xD 23:52 Jordach anyways, it's 23:51 here, i'm out for the night 23:52 oOChainLynxOo Ok then good night Jordach 23:52 Jordach EvergreenTree, be the renderman :P 23:52 Jordach new mob idea get 23:52 oOChainLynxOo Lol