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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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EvergreenTree |
^ that's a waving guy if you didn't know |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Enke |
Hi. |
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iqualfragile |
john_minetest: just use neo |
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iqualfragile |
night |
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topcyde |
Is there a cartography mod / app besides the minetest mapper? I got lost for an hour and a half in my world yesterday. |
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topcyde |
minetest mapper didn't work for me. I think i have python issues. |
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EvergreenTree |
Bye guys |
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VanessaE |
bye |
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LandMiner |
hello!! peeps |
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LandMiner |
darn oldcoder is not here |
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LandMiner |
oldcoder!!! |
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LandMiner |
you are just in time |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
? |
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LandMiner |
can i pm you? |
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OldCoder |
Yes |
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LandMiner |
ty |
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ShadowNinja |
topcyde: No, but there is a mapper written in C++ that is much faster. A improved version is listed on my github page. |
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topcyde |
shadowninja: this one https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas? |
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ShadowNinja |
topcyde: No, it's named minetest-mapper-cpp or some such. |
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topcyde |
ah.. found it |
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Exio4 |
an improved version? :P |
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ShadowNinja |
Exio4: Yes, unknown nodes don't show up as block and a few other things. |
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ShadowNinja |
black* |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
ShadowNinja, VanessaE I did a git clone of |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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OldCoder |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
then cd into the folder |
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OldCoder |
then |
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OldCoder |
git checkout stable-0.4 |
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OldCoder |
then git pull |
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OldCoder |
said up to date |
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VanessaE |
that seems right |
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OldCoder |
why didn't it revert any of the changes from upstream bleeding edge? |
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* OldCoder |
is curious |
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VanessaE |
that I don't know, but 0.4.8 is already out of date due to bugfixes |
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OldCoder |
when I did the git clone |
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OldCoder |
shouldn't it have pulled the latest? |
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OldCoder |
nvm bugfixes curious about how it works |
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ShadowNinja |
OldCoder: The checkout updates your working directory. |
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OldCoder |
But I saw no downloads |
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OldCoder |
Shouldn't it have downloaded more files? |
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OldCoder |
t y for thoughts |
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ShadowNinja |
OldCoder: No, as master contains all of the commits in stable-0.4. |
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OldCoder |
Ah |
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OldCoder |
so git clone |
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OldCoder |
gets stable too? |
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OldCoder |
But are you now recommending |
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OldCoder |
git bleeding edge? |
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ShadowNinja |
OldCoder: Yes, as stable is a subset of master. I would recommend master due to SQLite rollback and a LevelDB fix. |
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RavonTUS |
Hello, any one know what folder mobf stores it's logs in? (unbunt) |
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pandemonium__ |
what kind of logs? as in whats data are you looking for |
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RavonTUS |
it crashed when I make sheep, but I can't read the error on the screen. I was hoping it might have a crash log. |
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RavonTUS |
Error:servererror:luaerror: mobf.lua 505: attempt < and I can't see the rest of the error. |
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RavonTUS |
Minetest v.4.8, Mobf 2.3.2. and yes Simple Mob was installed and removed, /clearobjects ran before removing, if that helps. That's about all I saw in the forum. |
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pandemonium__ |
hmm no idea |
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pandemonium__ |
im rather new as well, but i havent had any issues yet |
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pandemonium__ |
have you been modding the modf code? |
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pandemonium__ |
or using parts of it in other mods? |
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RavonTUS |
no, just getting started. Trying to figure it out. |
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pandemonium__ |
id try a fresh install because i havent had any issues with that mod |
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pandemonium__ |
=/ |
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pandemonium__ |
im sure one of the regulars would have better idea |
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RavonTUS |
did RunUO back in the day, looking for something else to mess with. :) |
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pandemonium__ |
this is def it |
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pandemonium__ |
i rewrote the villages mod, if youve seen that |
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pandemonium__ |
i wrote code that makes a 4 point fort with palisade walls |
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RavonTUS |
sounds cool. I'll have to check it out. |
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OldCoder |
ShadowNinja, t y |
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pandemonium__ |
yeah, its based on how the Instabuild code works |
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OldCoder |
I am building MT for CentOS6. Irrlicht seems to be missing for that distro. I suppose I must build it. What release of Irrlicht is recommended? |
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RavonTUS |
cya round, night. |
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hoodedice |
MT is getting laggy =/ |
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hoodedice |
sfan5: Latest builds freezes on my system |
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topcyde |
I've downloaded the and vines and ropebox mod and the plants_lib, but can't seem to figure out how to make rope or a ropebox. I've tried several different configurations with assorted plants and leaves and it never does anything. I'm trying to get my gold laden body out of a very precarious position in the bottom of a volcano, there's starting to get a stack of corpses in there. |
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xiong |
Has anyone successfully run a Minetest server from a VPS? |
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VanessaE |
I do. |
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VanessaE |
Five of them, from a Linode instance, to be exact. |
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xiong |
I'm sure you do. You, of all people, are probably not serving off a laptop. |
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VanessaE |
heh, nope. |
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xiong |
However, all the docs I'm turning up seem geared to that crowd: the "I wanna run a server off my laptop through my home broadband connection when Mom and Dad aren't looking" crowd. |
| 08:21 |
xiong |
I believe I have successfully installed minetest-server 0.4.8 in my VPS. |
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xiong |
I theorize that minetest.conf will need to be substantially different from one in which key mappings are given. |
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VanessaE |
not really. |
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xiong |
Well. |
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xiong |
... for some value of "substantially". I'm autistic so I consider anything past a blank line, significant. |
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VanessaE |
here's te config I use on my survival server: |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6518609/ |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
the other four are substantially similar |
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VanessaE |
differing mostly in the MOTD and master server stuff (lines 17-24) |
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xiong |
Ha, far out. |
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VanessaE |
creative is the only other one that uses the remote_media feature |
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xiong |
I did the stupidest possible thing and started the server with no config file at all. Connected from my own desktop client. Works. |
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VanessaE |
(for that, you need to set up a webserver; I use nginx, per thexyz's suggestion) |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
lines 27-29 and 32-34 are mod-specific, you can ignore those. line 16 is a leftover from an old config |
| 08:28 |
VanessaE |
at the very very least, you need the name= and server_*= lines, and you should have a static_spawnpoint and motd. |
| 08:28 |
VanessaE |
the rest just depends on personal preference, level of risk (e.g the map save interval), etc. |
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xiong |
Um... but I started the server without any of that. |
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VanessaE |
yep I know |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
without a name= parameter, the server doesn't know who the admin is. |
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VanessaE |
without the server_*= lines, it won't announce to the master server lisr |
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VanessaE |
list* |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
motd is for other clients, works like an irc motd but shorter. |
| 08:31 |
VanessaE |
a static spawnpoint is a must. without it, people may spawn inside trees, in the water, underground, etc. instead of wherever you want them to, e.g. a specific building |
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VanessaE |
rollback recording is essential to protect against griefing to some degree. you can use it to undo others' damage. |
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xiong |
Well, the last thing I want to do with a testing server is announce it. |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
default privs almost always needs to be set, as without it I seem to recall everyone gets shout, interact, and eh I forget the other one. maybe noclip. You'll likely want to avoid granting interact by default, but you may on the other hand want to give everyone fast, perhaps fly. |
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xiong |
No, I don't mean to continue from this point. No configuration, no mods, nothing. |
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VanessaE |
ok |
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VanessaE |
well surely you will leave the 'testing' phase and make it public, or at least shared to a few friends. you still need at least some of that ^^^ |
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xiong |
I'm just happy it works at all. That puts me over several bars, including a half-hour lecture from the Debian wonks about how I should never have installed the unstable package the way I did. And they may well be right... but the proof of the pudding is, it works. |
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xiong |
Well, thanks for the example minetest.conf file. Between that and whatever default the server spits out on quit, if any, I'll have a starting point. I suspect all the configuration is here, not in command line options. |
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VanessaE |
most of it |
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VanessaE |
but you'll eventually need to specify at least a world name. |
| 08:36 |
hoodedice |
I'm in the top 20! |
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hoodedice |
http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html |
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hoodedice |
And the latest build doesn't run! |
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xiong |
Yes well, as I say, I'm sure there's no going forward from where I am now... without some sort of configuration. |
| 08:37 |
VanessaE |
I'm still the biggest chatterbox on the channel :) |
| 08:37 |
VanessaE |
well good luck. |
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xiong |
Thanks again. |
| 08:39 |
hoodedice |
Indeed. "VanessaE talks to herself a lot. She wrote over 5 lines in a row 125 times!" |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
I guess the bot doesn't know from writing for the sake of the logs for later review |
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hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7890 |
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VanessaE |
......? how? |
| 08:42 |
VanessaE |
of course, noting the lighting...upside-down world? |
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hoodedice |
One more. Total = 6. |
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hoodedice |
=7 |
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hoodedice |
VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120664#p120664 |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
:P |
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hoodedice |
I was originally gonna do something else... Why not do it now? |
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hoodedice |
Ah yes, download links added |
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VanessaE |
hey cn |
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and...there goes a quarter of the channel. |
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Megaf |
folks, is there a way of using socksv5 proxy? |
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JamesTait |
Morning all! :) |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: no clue |
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JamesTait |
I thought socks5 was TCP-oriented, minetest is UDP IIRC. |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, hi |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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reactor |
OldCoder: o/ |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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reactor |
o/ |
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Gethiox |
l |
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Gethiox |
o/ |
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kaeza |
o/ |
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PandemoniuM |
o/ |
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jin_xi |
😿 |
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kaeza |
😒 |
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reactor |
ЪЪЪЪ |
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reactor |
шШТЙФТ ЗОФЫВ. |
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PandemoniuM |
1001001001 |
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PandemoniuM |
(\/)(;,,;)(\/) |
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reactor |
шИФИГЫИВТ! |
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kaeza |
hey john_minetest |
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reactor |
Hi john_minetest. |
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reactor |
Cured your bronedom yet? |
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hoodedice |
Yo Jordach |
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Jordach |
brains |
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* hoodedice |
shotguns Jordach |
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hoodedice |
BAM! |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, i'm sleepy |
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hoodedice |
Okay. |
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hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7890 |
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kaeza |
hoodedice, Alt+F4 would have been a better key combination |
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hoodedice |
Indeed. |
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hoodedice |
I was thinking of it, but that would blow it right off XD |
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hoodedice |
Didja test that mod? |
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kaeza |
yes, it's awesome! |
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hoodedice |
XD |
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hoodedice |
I think this should be featured on the screenshot section on the main site |
| 16:17 |
hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120668#p120668 |
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Exio4 |
kaeza: s/it's/i am/ |
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kaeza |
Exio4, that needn't be said; everyone knows that! |
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Exio4 |
i know i am awesome :> |
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hoodedice |
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/thumb/6/60/User_Jette_awesome.svg/2048px-User_Jette_awesome.svg.png |
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kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-12-27%2005%3A43%3A50.png |
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reactor |
I understand. |
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reactor |
You seem to like to talk about "everypony". |
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reactor |
VanessaE: o/ |
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VanessaE |
hi |
| 16:43 |
e1z0 |
yo VanessaE |
| 16:43 |
am-i-kawaii |
yo VanessaE i will let you set a custom game mode |
| 16:43 |
e1z0 |
sup ? |
| 16:44 |
* VanessaE |
kicks the bot solidly in its microprocessor |
| 16:55 |
kaeza |
oh am-i-kawaii is back |
| 16:57 |
am-i-kawaii |
john_minetest: incorrect usage, ask for help using 'am-i-kawaii: help chat' |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
back |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
reactor is gone |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
good morning |
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nekofire |
hello |
| 16:59 |
nekofire |
I downloaded the zip file for the game and my comp is saying its invalid or corrupted |
| 16:59 |
kaeza |
hi |
| 16:59 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, kaeza o/ |
| 17:01 |
hoodedice |
nekofire: Where did you get it from? |
| 17:02 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, \o |
| 17:03 |
nekofire |
the website |
| 17:03 |
nekofire |
minetest.net |
| 17:03 |
hoodedice |
Hmm, and which OS are you on? |
| 17:03 |
nekofire |
xp |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
or unfinished |
| 17:06 |
hoodedice |
Or cancelled. |
| 17:11 |
hoodedice |
Later peeps |
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hoodedice |
kaeza: Thy Hath Been Ninja'd |
| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
(tm) |
| 17:13 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 17:14 |
* kaeza |
pokes hoodedice with a â„¢ |
| 17:14 |
hoodedice |
Damn symbols. |
| 17:15 |
nekofire |
no i finished the DL |
| 17:15 |
am-i-kawaii |
no i cannot share some random linux CD/DVD/USB after you get cobble |
| 17:16 |
kaeza |
wat |
| 17:16 |
kaeza |
nekofire, try downloading again |
| 17:16 |
kaeza |
or try another archiver |
| 17:17 |
nekofire |
i have downloaded twice |
| 17:17 |
nekofire |
im gonna try another opener |
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nekofire |
great now i start minetest and get this Access violation at 00408D61 write?=0 address=16 |
| 17:35 |
nekofire |
Access violation at 00408 D61 write?=0 address=16 |
| 17:35 |
nekofire |
take out the space i had to put one in it was making a smiley |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
sounds like the build you're using is not fully compatible with your OS or hardware or something? |
| 17:36 |
nekofire |
i tried 4.7 whn . 8 wouldnt work |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
0.4.7 is outdated. |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
why didn't 0.4.8 work? |
| 17:40 |
nekofire |
11:29:25: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font. |
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nekofire |
oops |
| 17:40 |
nekofire |
wrong on |
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nekofire |
11:29:25: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from C:\Documents and Settings\Kristin =’?’=\Desktop\minetest-0.4.8\bin\..\builtin\mainmenu.lua:GUIEngine: unable to load builtin menu |
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kaeza |
nekofire, try moving it to a directory without spaces and other funky chars |
| 17:45 |
kaeza |
like C:\minetest-0.4.8 or so |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 18:02 |
Nick____ |
Hi |
| 18:02 |
Nick____ |
Brb. seems my username is taken... |
| 18:14 |
nekofire |
i did and no dice |
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Microchip |
PilzAdam, I wanted to ask you a question. |
| 18:17 |
nekofire |
12:18:00: ERROR[main]: C:\Documents and Settings\Kristin =’?’=\Desktop\minetest\bin\..\builtin\mainmenu.lua:12:18:00: ERROR[main]: cannot open C:\Documents and Settings\Kristin =’?’=\Desktop\minetest\bin\..\builtin\mainmenu.lua: Invalid argument |
| 18:17 |
PilzAdam |
Microchip, are you going to do that now? |
| 18:18 |
Microchip |
Lol. Well first, does LuaJIT compile at runtime? |
| 18:18 |
Microchip |
Or during initialization of init.lua |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
nekofire, eh, dont run Minetest in paths with special characters |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
Microchip, its a just in time compiler |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
so it compiles at runtime |
| 18:18 |
nekofire |
bleh there are none i just stuck it on my desktop |
| 18:19 |
PilzAdam |
"Kristin =’?’=" looks very "special" to me |
| 18:19 |
Microchip |
Then, wouldn't the compiler take longer than just interpreting the code? |
| 18:20 |
PilzAdam |
Microchip, may I direct you to the wikipedia article about JIT? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation |
| 18:20 |
Microchip |
Ah. Thanks xD |
| 18:20 |
nekofire |
im not sure why its doing that i just stuck it on my desktop.....ohhh....shit |
| 18:20 |
nekofire |
heh |
| 18:20 |
nekofire |
kay |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
Microchip: the short version is that the JIT compiler runs through the code in a few seconds, one time, at server start-up. After that, until the next start, only the compiled results are run. |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
what costs a few seconds at startup saves minutes, possibly hours for really complex code, over time. |
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kaeza |
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7936448768/hB20ECA1B/ |
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* Jordach |
has 3 MK3 Mining drills on VE-Survival |
| 18:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
bonjour |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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| 18:48 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i am god now :D |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
evergreen only has one drill :D |
| 18:48 |
Microchip |
Is this a good idea for a mod? A furnace that burns fuel yet doesn't smelt anything, used for light |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
heh.. rm /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/Survival_World/players/Jordach |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
>:-) |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, fuck off :P |
| 18:48 |
Microchip |
^ lol |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
also; y u /.minetest/ |
| 18:49 |
kaeza |
>not RUN_IN_PLACE |
| 18:49 |
kaeza |
:< |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
why use a run-in-place build on VPS server? |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, because easy management :P |
| 18:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
howdy |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i preferred it too |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: ssh root host <insert password>; make; make install .... |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
you run minetest AS ROOT |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 18:51 |
kaeza |
plus you can nuke everything with a simple `rm' |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
I install it as root, duh |
| 18:51 |
am-i-kawaii |
today's penalty its hot in summer, not in minetest. how do i put it somewhere in 0.4.x when we don't exactly like dirt_with_grass but with a /giveme if you can also be nice |
| 18:51 |
kaeza |
<.< |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
she's fucking retarded |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
veto right now: KICKBAN? |
| 18:51 |
kaeza |
-1 |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
i thought we had this convo on bots |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
no bots allowed for fuck sakes |
| 18:52 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, I have several users on my VPS; one for service-like things like quassel, a random IRC bot, etc, one for minetest, and a "personal" account |
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VanessaE |
ditto. |
| 18:52 |
botbotbot |
I am a bot. Not. |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
minetest runs as "minetest" |
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VanessaE |
my webserver I think runs as nobody, with files owned by either me or minetest (depending on what they are) |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
iirc, didn't xyz say himself, no more bots |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
I only use root for admin stuff as usual. |
| 18:53 |
kaeza |
RUN_IN_PLACE keeps things clean, with all minetest-related files in ~minetest |
| 18:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I wish I was a freakin' robot sometimes. |
| 18:54 |
kaeza |
the "services" account has all the stuff related to quassel, the bot, etc under it's home dir too |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: ditto |
| 18:55 |
kaeza |
anyway, if it works for you, it works for you :P |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
my website (and abe's) in my homedir, minetest's stuff in its homedir |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
and yeah, it does. so sod off. or something. ;) |
| 18:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Yep, those were the good old days, john_minetest |
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thefamilygrog66 |
hey VanessaE, has the font changed for signs in homedecor? |
| 19:07 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 19:08 |
VanessaE |
kaeza improved the code to the point where he and I were able to put in higher-resolution fonts |
| 19:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thought so - was on a server last night that has it, but wasn't sure if it was tweaked or not |
| 19:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
good job - they look really good now |
| 19:08 |
VanessaE |
by default it's 17px now instead of 6px or whatever it was before |
| 19:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
don't tell Jordach, though... |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
GR |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
i heard that |
| 19:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
TOO MANY PIXELS!!! |
| 19:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
bahaha |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
quassel makes this BIG GREY BAR at the top of my screen with the message in it |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: it goes higher :P |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
the highest-resolution font supplied with the mod goes to 34px |
| 19:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nice |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
or something lik that |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I suppose I should update all my mods for this brand spanking new version, eh? |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
11, 17, 25, and 34px are it, with 17px being the default. |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
oh yes, most definitely :) |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
but kaeza will be adding locked signs soon, too :) |
| 19:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
very cool |
| 19:12 |
twoelk |
Vanessa, could it be that the links to the maps of your servers in the forum topics point to a folder not existing under that address? |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
aw crap |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
I'll fix it |
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jojoa1997 |
how come when i run minetest windows firewall comes up |
| 19:19 |
twoelk |
minetest needs your permission to use some ports as you might want to play on a public server or host one |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, it just does |
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jojoa1997 |
if my school blocks it is there any other way to host a lan server or something of the sort that others could connect to |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: ok, it's fixed. the maps will be updated tonight at their regular schedule. |
| 19:24 |
twoelk |
fine |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
(I forgot to re-compile the mapper after moving the VPS over to debian) |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
lel |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, you might be able to compile, write bash, run stuff, but can't remember anything - it's just like you have 640k in your head :D |
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twoelk |
now I just need to find a working client as "stable" seems outdated for a VanessaE server again :-( |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: 0.4.8 should work fine? |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
(also, it is *not* fixed. getting segfaults while the mapper is running) |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
ohai jojoa1997 |
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jojoa1997 |
Hi Jordach! |
| 19:30 |
twoelk |
don't know wether sqlite allows reading a database while another program has it open. |
| 19:31 |
Issa2013 |
hé |
| 19:31 |
Issa2013 |
can u upadte the ppa of ubuntu ? |
| 19:31 |
Issa2013 |
because ppa is on 0.4.7 |
| 19:31 |
Issa2013 |
that's bad |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Only create one alias metatable 000da6b25d 2013-12-04T11:31:55-08:00 http://git.io/4hT85Q |
| 19:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Issa2013: The offifial PPA has 0.4.7? Wow, they must have updted it recently, it was on 0.3.1 before. |
| 19:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Ubuntu isn't known for prompt updates. ;-) |
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ShadowNinja |
Issa2013: "apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable" |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Go with the daily build on ubuntu, yo. |
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kaeza |
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7921498624/hEE6BF242/ |
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Jordach |
oh dear |
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Jordach |
really, really? |
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emptty |
Hello there. It seems to me that mods don't work in my minetest packages for debian, but I dunno why |
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emptty |
When I'm in the Mods tab of the menu, my console is filled with error messages: Could not open file of texture: /home/mquinson/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png |
| 19:47 |
emptty |
That file does not exist on my disk |
| 19:47 |
FreeFull |
You can probably ignore those |
| 19:47 |
emptty |
It should be /usr/share/games/minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png, which exists |
| 19:48 |
emptty |
I guess that this is a (minor?) bug due to the fact that I dont play in place |
| 19:49 |
emptty |
And when I try to get online mods, I get the message: 20:48:52: ERROR[main]: MAINMENU ERROR: LuaError: C++ exception |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
damn PA goes far |
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Jordach |
the Db meter is recieving 80Db total from PulseAudio + Triton Headset Amp |
| 19:55 |
FreeFull |
80dB is pretty loud |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
eg, my Acoustic headphones can take it |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
and 12v of power (thank you USB) |
| 19:56 |
FreeFull |
v is voltage |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
Acoustic Solutions also makes stuff under the Acoustic brand, keep an eye out for them, they're much better than the average |
| 19:57 |
thefamilygrog66 |
too loud... |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, it still doesn't stop my brother's bass |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
i'm actually thinking of installing oscillators to conteract it |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
counteract* |
| 20:08 |
iqualfragile |
guys: fix your www, install request policy |
| 20:08 |
iqualfragile |
its worth it |
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iqualfragile |
emptty: you can ignore those screenshot messages |
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emptty |
iqualfragile: do you know anything about the LuaError: C++ exception ? |
| 20:11 |
emptty |
If someone tries to write where the mods are, the error is quite expected: there is no ~/.minetest/mods on my machine, and the /usr/share/....../mods is not writable |
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specing |
Leoneof: LEONEOF |
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specing |
Leoneof: you up |
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specing |
Leoneof: ? |
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Leoneof |
lol |
| 20:41 |
Leoneof |
specing: what you are doing here? |
| 20:42 |
Leoneof |
i don't know why i'm here, but it is ok |
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jojoa1997 |
can a minetest lan be run through a proxy |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
why? |
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Leoneof |
because he want to do that |
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jojoa1997 |
school is blocking minetest |
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jojoa1997 |
firewall to be excact |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
then do other things at school... |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
a proxy increases lag anyway :P |
| 20:52 |
ShadowNinja |
emptty: Writing to the mod directory is bad practice and should be considered a mod error, the world dir is a better place, although we should probably have a settings dir or similar for non-world-specific files. |
| 20:53 |
emptty |
ShadowNinja: Not sure that this is what happens here. I only know that the modstore raises a C++ error that breaks in lua |
| 20:53 |
iqualfragile |
emptty: no |
| 20:54 |
ShadowNinja |
emptty: That error message happens when a function in the Lua API throws an exception and LuaJIT gobbles up the message. |
| 20:54 |
emptty |
How could I debug this one? |
| 20:55 |
ShadowNinja |
"throw LuaError(L, "Something went wrong");" -> "ServerError: LuaError: C++ exception" Try compiling with non-JIT Lua. |
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specing |
tmp/portage/games-action/minetest-0.4.8/work/minetest-0.4.8/src/inventory.cpp:624: ItemStack& InventoryList::getItem(irr::u32): Assertion 'i < m_size' failed. |
| 21:01 |
specing |
after right-clicking on craft_guide on clip public server |
| 21:02 |
specing |
happened again |
| 21:02 |
specing |
okay, don't click craft guide ;P |
| 21:03 |
specing |
http://bpaste.net/show/hBDO1g5P6YXUWvfCrL0G/ |
| 21:04 |
Leoneof |
btw, it's required to enter password? |
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kaeza |
Leoneof, depends on server |
| 21:07 |
xiong |
I find that I'm able to run 'minetestserver' as an ordinary user without 'sudo'. That puts all the configurations in '~/.minetest', yes? Is there any reason to tinker with anything outside of '/home'? I was considering a fake user on the system. |
| 21:08 |
Leoneof |
this game is using %100 of cpu with two cores, whats up |
| 21:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's hacking your system, Leoneof |
| 21:13 |
FreeFull |
xiong: Minetest servers run on ports above 1024, so yeah, you don't need root priviledges at all |
| 21:14 |
xiong |
No; and I don't see, then, why I want to do any configuration at all, of any kind, outside of some dedicated user account. |
| 21:15 |
xiong |
It's a service; it should be run by a service (fake) user. |
| 21:15 |
xiong |
I mean, it's not an essential service so why have it anywhere outside of '/home'? |
| 21:16 |
Calinou |
Leoneof, the game uses some multithreading |
| 21:16 |
Calinou |
it is a good thing |
| 21:16 |
* Jordach |
+ shaders + TP = https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120731#p120731 |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
(look at the water level!) |
| 21:16 |
Leoneof |
Calinou: but it's supposed to use gpu? i feel not |
| 21:16 |
Calinou |
it uses both |
| 21:17 |
Leoneof |
i want to use only gpu, my cpu is poor and don't want to put all effort on it :] |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
you can't |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
CPU will always be needed for a GPU to work |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
rendering calls put stress on the CPU too |
| 21:19 |
Leoneof |
:( |
| 21:20 |
Leoneof |
winehq + hitman3 is very smooth and more than minetest -_- |
| 21:20 |
FreeFull |
Any news on minetest 2? |
| 21:21 |
Calinou |
is hitman3 old? |
| 21:21 |
Calinou |
wine is quite CPU-dependent |
| 21:21 |
Calinou |
FreeFull, you mean Freeminer? |
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Leoneof |
Calinou: well, libreoffice is smoother than minetest ;) |
| 21:23 |
Leoneof |
very true |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
not for me |
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Calinou |
on a netbook, it takes 10 seconds, on desktop, less than 5 seconds |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
4.1 |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
it runs fine on netbook, which has 1GB of RAM |
| 21:25 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: That's not really 2 |
| 21:25 |
FreeFull |
It's more ++ |
| 21:26 |
Calinou |
there is no Minetest 2? |
| 21:27 |
Leoneof |
john_minetest: it's still poor when you compare with microsoft office |
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Calinou |
very few people use abiword/gnumeric |
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Calinou |
<john_minetest> I use the term "powerpoint" as other word for "presentation software". |
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Calinou |
don't do that, don't "brand" your language |
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Calinou |
find an acronym for it or something |
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thefamilygrog66 |
that sounds like a band-aid solution |
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thefamilygrog66 |
pass me the kleenex |
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Calinou |
lol |
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thefamilygrog66 |
:P |
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thefamilygrog66 |
trolling, trolling, trolling |
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thefamilygrog66 |
(sung to the tune of "Rawhide") |
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thefamilygrog66 |
no kidding - it's not like I'm gonna tell my kids that I'm using the no-name stuff! |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: can you please change moreblocks/stairsplus to use the invertwall feature of the rotate_and_place() call. forcewall is turning out to be rather cumbersome in practice, at least with stairs/slabs. |
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VanessaE |
s/call\./call\?/ |
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Calinou |
ok, but not now, going to sleep :p |
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VanessaE |
I'll do it |
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Calinou |
you can do it and send a pull request |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
sure |
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Esteban |
hi everyone! :D |
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Calinou |
hi Esteban :) |
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EvergreenTree |
Hello! |
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EvergreenTree |
It's nice to see me and VanessaE's rotate_and_place is used |
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kaeza |
holas Esteban |
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Esteban |
hola Kaeza! |
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Esteban |
Things I write here can be seen in the IRC mod? or do I have to use a specified channel? |
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Esteban |
I always had this doubt :P |
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kaeza |
lol no :P |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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kaeza |
we have a dedicated channel on another network though |
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kaeza |
#minetest @ irc.inchra.net |
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Calinou |
Esteban, the IRC mod can use any channel as relay |
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Calinou |
however, if someone uses this channel as a relay, I think the bot would get quieted (which means people can say stuff to the server, but not the inverse) |
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Esteban |
Oh... thanks guys! |
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Calinou |
np |
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Calinou |
night :) |
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kaeza |
night |
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EvergreenTree |
night |
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Esteban |
How I connect to other channels? Im a noob to the irc XD |
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EvergreenTree |
You're using the web irc right? |
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Esteban |
yes |
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EvergreenTree |
You can't unless you open a new tab in the browser |
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EvergreenTree |
I would suggest using an irc client like hexchat or quassel |
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Esteban |
thanx |
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* EvergreenTree |
uses xchat |
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kaeza |
you can connect to other channels via webchat, but not to other networks |
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kaeza |
still, I recommend getting hexchat |
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kaeza |
will make your life easier :> |
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* Esteban |
writes it down on a notepad |
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EvergreenTree |
I was about to say "notepad sucks" until I realized you meant real life, not software. :P |
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kaeza |
yes, use leafpad; it sucks but it's free! |
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EvergreenTree |
plol |
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Esteban |
lol |
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EvergreenTree |
If you use windows, notepad++ is great |
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EvergreenTree |
for coding stuff |
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Esteban |
Since i havent programmed stuff before, I used to use notepad, but for now Im using wordpad...when I get my new pc Ill get notepad++ |
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EvergreenTree |
I'm not sure if it supports windows, but two good editing programs for linux is geany(for larger projects) and gedit(for smaller things) |
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EvergreenTree |
s/it/they |
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kaeza |
geany at least works on windows |
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kaeza |
dunno about gedit |
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EvergreenTree |
I looked it up, it does |
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kaeza |
there's also jEdit if you don't mind having to install the JRE :3 |
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EvergreenTree |
and also, gedit basically means gnome-edit |
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EvergreenTree |
because it is the default text editor for gnome |
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EvergreenTree |
lol, sfan5's stats: "Is Miner_48er stupid or just asking too many questions? 43.5% lines contained a question! " |
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EvergreenTree |
http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Judging-tree.jpg |
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* Esteban |
thinks on what to draw... |
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EvergreenTree |
a minetest tree! :# |
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EvergreenTree |
*:3 |
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Esteban |
:3 ok |
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Esteban |
well gtg for now, see ya on the forums! |
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* Esteban |
le flies away |
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EvergreenTree |
Hey bas080 |
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EvergreenTree |
you don't do too much talking on here actually |
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* ShadowNinja |
has been working on his esoteric programing language |
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FreeFull |
ShadowNinja: I know a channel for that |
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harrison |
also you must have an editor for the terminal window and i recommend nano |
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FreeFull |
I recommend ed |
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kaeza |
I recommend butterflies |
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harrison |
butterfly is the only word i know that was formed by spoonerism (from flutter by) |
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ShadowNinja |
FreeFull: Ah, what one? ShadowBot has it built in. sfan5: I remember you tried to do something like this with it before: ,,(derplangplus "var:b:99; label:start; print:b:' bottles of beer on the wall. '; subtract:b:b:1; if:b:0:continue:start") |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: 99 bottles of beer on the wall. 98 bottles of beer on the wall. 97 bottles of beer on the wall. 96 bottles of beer on the wall. 95 bottles of beer on the wall. 94 bottles of beer on the wall. 93 bottles of beer on the wall. 92 bottles of beer on the wall. 91 bottles of beer on the wall. 90 bottles of beer on the wall. 89 bottles of beer on the wall. 88 bottles of beer (8 more messages) |
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FreeFull |
ShadowNinja: #esoteric on this network |
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FreeFull |
harrison: bird used to be brid |
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harrison |
not a spoonerism |
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harrison |
take any brid and put him in a cage... |
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kaeza |
harrison, is that true? |
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harrison |
flutter by? i think so |
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harrison |
early 1800's ? |
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kaeza |
I always though it was referencing a floating milk product |
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FreeFull |
What about ladybird? |
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kaeza |
bidilard? |
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FreeFull |
Why is it named after the Virgin Mary? |
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kaeza |
bidy* |
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kaeza |
:P |
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