Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:01 |
paramat |
i seem to remember that drowning can now be enabled in any defined node, but perhaps it cant be in the "air" node due to that being hardcoded ... :| |
00:01 |
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00:02 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I patched over the sticky spot to just make it 'return' if 'text' comes up niol. |
00:02 |
VanessaE |
nil* |
00:02 |
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00:03 |
kaeza |
ok, that should work |
00:03 |
kaeza |
don't know why MT does not let me write accented chars anywhere ._. |
00:03 |
STHGOM |
I'M FAMOUS!!! |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
you are? |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
(who are you again?) |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
;) |
00:06 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I bet it's from writing *only* accented/non-supported chars |
00:06 |
VanessaE |
there's another bug I didn't bother to fix, which I discovered earlier today. delete all of the fonts and the mod can't initialize :) |
00:07 |
kaeza |
well, duh |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
(I figured no one would do that) |
00:07 |
kaeza |
:P |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2011052013%20-%2002:11:09%20PM.png |
00:07 |
kaeza |
just yell "USER ERROR" in that case :P |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
^^^^^ from a performance test I was doing. |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
fisher-price land :D |
00:08 |
kaeza |
lol |
00:08 |
VanessaE |
(I was testing the engine's mesh rendering without any textures - just the models) |
00:09 |
STHGOM |
I'm on the IRC stats by sfan5! : http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html |
00:09 |
STHGOM |
ndjdjksisksk wrote the shortest lines, averaging 18.9 characters per line. |
00:09 |
STHGOM |
STHGOM was tight-lipped, too, averaging 19.1 characters. |
00:09 |
VanessaE |
STHGOM: yay \o/ : ) |
00:09 |
STHGOM |
:D |
00:09 |
VanessaE |
I'm still the blabbermouth (-fingers?) of the channel :D |
00:10 |
kaeza |
hah! |
00:10 |
kaeza |
"Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 15 times." |
00:11 |
kaeza |
:D |
00:11 |
VanessaE |
haha |
00:14 |
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00:14 |
STHGOM |
Jordach is aggressive |
00:14 |
STHGOM |
:D |
00:15 |
STHGOM |
JamesTait brings happiness to the world. 42.8% lines contained smiling faces. :) |
00:15 |
STHGOM |
D: |
00:16 |
STHGOM |
what about these faces: :D |
00:18 |
paramat |
i love the look of fisher-price land 8} im always amazed how good ultra simple textures look |
00:19 |
STHGOM |
:D |
00:19 |
STHGOM |
and there compatible almost anywhere! |
00:21 |
paramat |
however my understanding is that there isnt much performance increase between plain 1x1 and lets say a detailed 16x16, because both have tiny image files |
00:21 |
VanessaE |
paramat: those weren't "ultra-simple" textures - those were *no* textures at all :D |
00:21 |
paramat |
V, even better heh |
00:22 |
VanessaE |
basically, find /home/minetest/.minetest -type f -name *.png -exec rm \{\} \; |
00:22 |
VanessaE |
(and then fill in homedecor's sign font to avoid the previously-mentioned crash) |
00:22 |
paramat |
i dont notice any performance increase between my minimal textures and default |
00:23 |
paramat |
okay thanks |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
(and search/remove textures from /usr/share/minetest also) |
00:24 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: if you pushed http_fetch now, would it break anything? |
00:24 |
VanessaE |
s/pushed/were to push/ |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
d'oh, wrong channel. That was meant for -dev |
00:30 |
STHGOM |
:D |
00:30 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs and adds a few more random lines and words to sfan5's statistics page :D |
00:31 |
JamesTait |
:-P |
00:38 |
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00:43 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: *poke* |
00:45 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
00:46 |
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00:46 |
Coltenellis |
Hey |
00:46 |
OldCoder |
Yeh |
00:46 |
OldCoder |
Reactor will be awake soon. Is anybody able to comment on the serialize mobf issue? |
00:47 |
VanessaE |
no clue, OldCoder |
00:47 |
kaeza |
"Most referenced nicks" --> "i" |
00:47 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, thanks |
00:48 |
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00:48 |
kaeza |
hi Coltenellis |
00:48 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, do you have any thoughts on the error |
00:48 |
kaeza |
nope :/ |
00:48 |
OldCoder |
k ty ok |
00:49 |
us`0gb |
I don't know what I was thinking .... Building a 32767 node game was a bad idea on my part. |
00:49 |
us`0gb |
I'm going back to my minimalistic approach, but making it less minimalistic. |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
why? |
00:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol us'0gb |
00:50 |
us`0gb |
For one, I'm not an artist. |
00:50 |
us`0gb |
I can't draw all that. |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
us`0gb: protip: there are lots of open-source-friendly artists on commons.wikimedia.org and clker.com :-) |
00:50 |
dafull97 |
Coltenellis, sup |
00:50 |
us`0gb |
Second, I'm not you. You're the one with the huge fun game. I'm the guy that makes the minimalistic game very closely tied to the default game. |
00:51 |
kaeza |
us`0gb, make that 40000 nodes, and somebody will come up with 15bit color wool :P |
00:51 |
kaeza |
(the extra ones are for misc nodes :P) |
00:51 |
Coltenellis |
dafull97, nothing much you? |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
us`0gb: speaking of minimalistic, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2011052013%20-%2002:11:09%20PM.png |
00:51 |
us`0gb |
VanessaE: The plan was to make that many nodes myself. If I get help (for example, with the textures), it's not the insane game I was trying to build. |
00:52 |
dafull97 |
check tabs at top you should see one from me, Coltenellis |
00:52 |
Coltenellis |
I do, and I'll switch. |
00:52 |
us`0gb |
Yeah .... Minimalistic game, not texture-less game. |
00:53 |
dafull97 |
Coltenellis, good |
00:54 |
us`0gb |
Anyway, I'm going to try to do my work in using only three new nodes. Plus, all regular items will be changed into nodes, for several reasons, and behavior of the game will be tweaked making most things that are consumed renewable. |
00:54 |
us`0gb |
Sort of a middle ground. |
00:55 |
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00:55 |
us`0gb |
I don't know what to do about default:nyancat and its rainbow. Those are furnace fuel, so should be renewable, but making them renewable makes them too plentiful. |
00:56 |
EvergreenTree |
Sup people |
00:56 |
us`0gb |
Hello EvergreenTree! |
00:56 |
kaeza |
sky |
00:56 |
us`0gb |
Death rate. |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
hi Evergreen |
00:59 |
us`0gb |
Working with fire should be interesting as well. A bug in the game prevents me from dampening it directly. |
01:04 |
EvergreenTree |
Hey VanessaE what linux distro do you use? |
01:04 |
VanessaE |
Xubuntu 13.10 |
01:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
nice xubuntu |
01:05 |
us`0gb |
Xubuntu is fun. It's my favorite of the *buntus. |
01:05 |
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01:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
01:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
i use ubuntu lucid |
01:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
10.04 |
01:06 |
kaeza |
O_o |
01:06 |
stormchaser3000 |
ikr |
01:06 |
us`0gb |
I keep a copy of Xubuntu in a virtual machine for my courses. |
01:06 |
EvergreenTree |
Xubuntu is awesome |
01:07 |
VanessaE |
stormchaser3000: you need to upgrade soon. |
01:07 |
EvergreenTree |
I am using ubuntu +xfce atm (12.04 LTS) |
01:08 |
us`0gb |
10.04 is LTS, right? So it should be fine until 2015. |
01:12 |
stormchaser3000 |
i nnow |
01:12 |
stormchaser3000 |
but i can't i can only download stuff with 14.7 kb a sec internet |
01:12 |
stormchaser3000 |
and tha is the down speed |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
stormchaser3000: had you just upgraded when you were advised tom you'd be done by now :P |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
to,* |
01:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
no |
01:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
i almost had it done |
01:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
but my internet slowed down just before it aws downloaded |
01:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
:( |
01:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
so i stoped it |
01:16 |
* stormchaser3000 |
is waiting til the end of the month |
01:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
when my internet is faster |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Would anybody like to try to connect to a new and large world? |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
You will need the latest clients (less than 2 days old) |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
I can provide one for Windows |
01:25 |
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01:28 |
us`0gb |
Do you have an address? |
01:29 |
us`0gb |
I think my client is from yesterday, but I forget. |
01:29 |
us`0gb |
Yes, definitely yesterday, because I upgraded to play with string seeds. |
01:29 |
us`0gb |
It's such a simple feature, but I love it. |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, Shall I give you a preloaded cache? |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
It will greatly speed up the load |
01:31 |
us`0gb |
Okay, sounds great. Thanks! |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
Allow 15 minutes for me to finish loading it myself and I will post the cache |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
You are welcome to connect now |
01:31 |
us`0gb |
Okay, no rush. |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
But it will be quite slow |
01:31 |
us`0gb |
WHat is the address though? |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Server is minetest.org |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
There are two worlds this week; I will start the 2nd in a minute |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
1st world is new. Very large. At port: 30017 The name is Pripyat |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
2nd world is Zeg9 Zegaton. At port: 30015 |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
I will start both now |
01:32 |
us`0gb |
Okay, cool. WHich am I connecting to? |
01:33 |
us`0gb |
(I'll still wait for the cache though.) |
01:33 |
OldCoder |
Both are up |
01:33 |
OldCoder |
Try the new world 30017 as reactor will want feedback |
01:33 |
us`0gb |
(I have some patch work to do for a bit anyway.) |
01:33 |
OldCoder |
He is in Russia and should wake up soon |
01:44 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, done and preparing cache zip. I don't see the world. Let me give you fly and so on once you are in. |
01:44 |
us`0gb |
OldCoder: Okay, cool. Standing by. |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
ETA 2 minutes |
01:46 |
* us`0gb |
needs to find a way to automate his minimal/minetest_game updates |
01:46 |
NakedFury |
the files we download when we join a server, are they saved in our system for faster access to server later? |
01:46 |
us`0gb |
NakedFury: Correct. |
01:47 |
us`0gb |
I don't know if that's why they are stred, but it has that effect. |
01:47 |
us`0gb |
*stored |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, and they can be ZIPped and shared |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, upload aborted. Retrying. Worth another shot. If it continues I will upload later from home. |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
I am at work and the network is substandard |
01:49 |
us`0gb |
Minetesting from work? Ha ha. |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
It is nearly 6:00pm here |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
And I work 7 days a week |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
Often 16 hours |
01:50 |
us`0gb |
My condolences. That must be tiring. |
01:50 |
EvergreenTree |
OldCoder, it's 8:00pm here |
01:50 |
EvergreenTree |
That's a lot of work |
01:51 |
OldCoder |
EvergreenTree, Eh. It is an odd period. |
01:51 |
OldCoder |
Usually much less. More like 10 to 13 hours. |
01:51 |
OldCoder |
And last weekend was largely Minetest |
01:52 |
OldCoder |
Upload might make it this time |
01:53 |
us`0gb |
NICE! I just tested to see what Minetest would do in case there were multiple modules with the same name. Minetest properly reports the name conflict and aborts! |
01:53 |
OldCoder |
Good |
01:55 |
us`0gb |
I thought it would just choose one (possibly dependent on order of discovery), and feared it would run both init.luas, but bind one directory as the canonical one for get_mod_path(). |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, The world is there. What is the correct format for the /time command? |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
71% uploaded for cache |
01:57 |
us`0gb |
"/time 6000" is about mid-day. I don't know what format the number is in though. |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
I forget how to fly. I need to find the world again so I can give you the coords. |
01:58 |
NakedFury |
I think its k or j to fly |
01:58 |
us`0gb |
Oops, I'm out of time. I'll pick up the cache and try connecting when I get out of my seminar in about an hour. |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, I will provide the link to others here |
01:58 |
us`0gb |
"k" is fly, "j' is fast. |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
Got it c u |
01:59 |
us`0gb |
(I can stay on and chat, but I can't run the seminar on my system AND Minetest at the same time.) |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
Yes of course |
02:02 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, wish to try this? |
02:03 |
NakedFury |
ok |
02:10 |
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02:15 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, the ZIP link is: |
02:15 |
* us`0gb |
franticly clicks the blank space trying to download |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-cache-131105.zip |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
The cache folder there replaces your current cache folder |
02:16 |
us`0gb |
Oh, that's easier. |
02:16 |
OldCoder |
Find the current cache folder and rename it |
02:16 |
OldCoder |
Then unpack this one there |
02:16 |
OldCoder |
I will grant both of you all privs |
02:16 |
OldCoder |
Find the world for me... it is there but I lost it |
02:16 |
kaeza |
lol us`0gb |
02:16 |
OldCoder |
There is some type of break in mobf but the world seems to run |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
Well, I found *part* of the world |
02:22 |
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02:25 |
NakedFury |
what server |
02:26 |
NakedFury |
and what do you mean by find the world? |
02:26 |
NakedFury |
that is something I havent understood in this entire conversation |
02:26 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, It is fine |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
After replace cache you can connect to two worlds tonight |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
server is minetest.org for both |
02:27 |
us`0gb |
minetest.org:30017 |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
port 30015 is Zeg9 Zegaton world |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
Well established |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
port 30017 is a huge new world. I have been shown the map. But did it convert? I only see a small part of it. |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
reactor needs to look at it and tell us if the world is actually there. |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
I can't find it :-) |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, what are the fly and teleport permission grant commands? |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
63, 100, -16 |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
will put you above the part I found |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
Ah I C U |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, what are the fly and teleport permission grant commands? |
02:28 |
NakedFury |
im not sure the commands for those. I always do grant all |
02:29 |
NakedFury |
I think fly is simply gly |
02:29 |
NakedFury |
fly |
02:29 |
OldCoder |
What is grant all |
02:29 |
NakedFury |
./grant name Fly |
02:29 |
us`0gb |
/grant NakedFury fly,teleport |
02:29 |
OldCoder |
Have fun |
02:29 |
us`0gb |
It needs to be lower case. |
02:29 |
OldCoder |
It worked. See if the world is there. If not, try Zegaton at port 30015 |
02:29 |
NakedFury |
all= gives the players ALL priviledges. basicly make the guy able to do all |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
Both worlds are experimental and using latest stuff |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, you have that for now here |
02:31 |
OldCoder |
Odd |
02:31 |
OldCoder |
I see more of the world now |
02:31 |
OldCoder |
This is about some type of view range parameter |
02:31 |
OldCoder |
Is there a setting I should change? |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
The whole world is there |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
It is simply invisible until you are up close |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
|
02:32 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. NakedFury us`0gb VanessaE thexyz is that normal now? Or do I need to change a setting? |
02:32 |
us`0gb |
Hit shift +. |
02:33 |
us`0gb |
THat's a litteral plus, not a plus period. |
02:33 |
us`0gb |
If the view range is set to five nodes, it messes up and goes to zero nodes. |
02:33 |
NakedFury |
actually just hitting + or - changes view range |
02:34 |
us`0gb |
For me, plus requires shift, minus requires a lack of shift. |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, what should minetest.conf setting be? |
02:36 |
us`0gb |
I don't know. I'll look it up. |
02:37 |
us`0gb |
OldCoder: I think it's "viewing_range_nodes_min". |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
What would you recommend |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, what do you think of the world? |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
There is a nice building near me |
02:37 |
NakedFury |
exploring it |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
234, 57, 144 |
02:37 |
us`0gb |
It depends on your machine. THe default, 35, is usually fine. |
02:37 |
NakedFury |
I like how the roads look old abandoned |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, Maybe it was too low for some reason |
02:38 |
us`0gb |
If you are not seeing nodes at that setting, that setting isn't the issue. |
02:38 |
us`0gb |
To see nodes, you just need to have it higher than 5. |
02:39 |
us`0gb |
Or maybe higher than 15. 15 works, 5 doesn't. I don;t know where the threshold is exactly. |
02:40 |
EvergreenTree |
Gotta go |
02:40 |
EvergreenTree |
See you guys |
02:41 |
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02:44 |
NakedFury |
found a race track |
02:49 |
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03:01 |
OldCoder |
Back |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, us`0gb the world seems to work |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
It is supposedly a huge MC World |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
I need to go soon |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
Tell reactor where it is |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
THe only bug so far is that modf (I think) has a startup error about serialize.lua and sdata being nil |
03:01 |
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03:01 |
OldCoder |
So I don't know if there are animals |
03:02 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, Hi! There is a large new world |
03:02 |
us`0gb |
Okay, I'll tell reactor when I next see him/her. |
03:02 |
us`0gb |
SOme of the textures are missing. |
03:02 |
OldCoder |
Information for everybody follows shortly |
03:02 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, Tell him that |
03:02 |
us`0gb |
Okay. |
03:02 |
OldCoder |
I added his textures in worldmods |
03:02 |
OldCoder |
|
03:04 |
OldCoder |
# CACHE! Use this for Windows or Linux! |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-cache-131105.zip |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
# Use that and my worlds will go zoom! |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
|
03:04 |
OldCoder |
# Windows Client - Replace the cache with the above |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-131102.zip |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
# Should work with both 32 and 64 bits |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
|
03:04 |
us`0gb |
Is that for all your worlds, OldCoder? |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
Server: minetest.org |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
Ports: 30015 for Zegaton and 30017 for Pripyat |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
It is all temporary but I will release updated cache and clients |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
One cache |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
Should work for all of my worlds |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
When we are done |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
|
03:05 |
* OldCoder |
hereby announces the beta release of Pripyat World! Have fun! |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
Do not build too much, these worlds are temporary |
03:05 |
us`0gb |
Okay, cool. I should pick up VanessaE's cache at some point as well. Does ShadowNinja have a cache? |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, You can make your own caches |
03:06 |
VanessaE |
my cache needs updated |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, Just connect to a world and collect the files out of the resulting cache/media folder |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
I believe you can probably merge the resulting folders |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
|
03:06 |
us`0gb |
Yeah, I just merged yours with mine, I didn't replace. |
03:07 |
us`0gb |
I should have replaced though. I need to throw out my cache anyway. |
03:13 |
OldCoder |
One step at a time |
03:13 |
OldCoder |
us`0gb, we will figure out the missing images |
03:13 |
OldCoder |
Tell reactor I will contact him later about world edits |
03:13 |
us`0gb |
Okay, cool. |
03:13 |
OldCoder |
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03:13 |
us`0gb |
Will do. |
03:16 |
OldCoder |
I will return later. The two upgraded worlds will stay up overnight. May reboot them for fixes tomorrow. Other worlds will be added. |
03:16 |
OldCoder |
20 worlds will live again! |
03:16 |
* OldCoder |
salutes and exits |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: around? |
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iqualfragile |
VanessaE: unlikely, its 4:48 in the morning around here |
03:58 |
VanessaE |
no worries, left him a message. |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: *poke* |
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sfan5 |
:-/ |
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* us`0gb |
sighs |
07:10 |
us`0gb |
It seems bones can be used to kill other peoples' locked chests again ... |
07:11 |
us`0gb |
Oops, missed a line. Scratch that. |
07:12 |
us`0gb |
It can still be used to make half doors though, and half doors are quite buggy. |
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kaeza |
hey john_minetest |
07:34 |
us`0gb |
Is it possible to redefine functions that are attached to "userdata" objects? I seem to be able to call inv:get_size(), but if I attempt to defile it the normal way, I get an error. Is there some sort of other way to do it? |
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kaeza |
us`0gb, nope |
07:38 |
kaeza |
at least not from Lua |
07:38 |
us`0gb |
Okay. Thanks! |
07:39 |
kaeza |
(the long answer is that userdata does not actually "contain" the functions, but rather are obtained through their __index metamethod) |
07:39 |
us`0gb |
Ah, I see. |
07:40 |
us`0gb |
Okay ... That might be usable .... |
07:41 |
kaeza |
well, theoretically you could just modify the userdata metatable, but I have not tried that |
07:41 |
us`0gb |
Do you know where that table is? |
07:42 |
kaeza |
getmetatable(val) |
07:42 |
us`0gb |
Great. Thank you! |
07:42 |
kaeza |
np :) |
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adama_ |
hello all |
09:41 |
JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Stress Awareness Day! :-D |
09:41 |
adama_ |
lol |
09:45 |
adama_ |
wondering if any one know how to disable fire on a server or what the command is |
09:49 |
adama_ |
ok i figured it out thans all |
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kaeza |
that was quick |
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reactor |
Ehlo. |
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10:53 |
reactor |
ПРОМЕЖBULIT |
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reactor |
OldCoder: how's the progress? |
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11:47 |
OldCoder |
reactor, hello |
11:48 |
OldCoder |
reactor, I assume people were asleep by the time you arrived |
11:48 |
OldCoder |
The world is running and seems to work |
11:49 |
OldCoder |
There are some textures related to Technic, Animals, and Food missing. And the "mobf" mod, which is apparently needed for Animals, is throwing an error. But the world is there and is said to be interesting. |
11:52 |
OldCoder |
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11:52 |
OldCoder |
Is anybody else able to talk a little about missing Technic, Animals, and Food textures or about a "serialize.lua" error related to "mobf" ? |
11:52 |
OldCoder |
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11:54 |
reactor |
OldCoder: why would we need these there? |
11:55 |
OldCoder |
We may not and they can be removed |
11:55 |
reactor |
Also, what mods would you recommend if I want to make some interiors more detailed? |
11:55 |
OldCoder |
I will talk further in 5 to 10 minutes |
11:55 |
OldCoder |
I will show you a current mods list |
11:55 |
reactor |
Well, mobs would be good. |
11:55 |
OldCoder |
And I will explain what has been done. We can also proceed with the "scheme" that you were working on |
11:55 |
reactor |
mk |
11:55 |
reactor |
I've split that scheme in about ten pieces. |
11:55 |
OldCoder |
For "mobs" I will need somebody who can explain a "serialize.lua" error message |
11:56 |
reactor |
mk |
11:56 |
OldCoder |
I will confirm the world is still running and we will begin |
11:56 |
OldCoder |
See you in 5 to 10 minutes; possibly 15 |
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11:59 |
reactor |
mk |
12:01 |
kaeza |
reactor, homedecor :3 |
12:01 |
kaeza |
re: better interiors |
12:02 |
kaeza |
and Living Room Furniture (lrfurn) |
12:09 |
OldCoder |
Back |
12:09 |
OldCoder |
reactor, here? |
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12:13 |
reactor |
Yes. |
12:14 |
reactor |
I think I will process the underground schemes on my own, then give you the new map. |
12:14 |
reactor |
Because I've already made some more changes. |
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12:17 |
OldCoder |
reactor, that is fine |
12:17 |
OldCoder |
Shall we talk for a few minutes now? I will explain some things |
12:19 |
reactor |
Yes. |
12:21 |
reactor |
OldCoder: yes. |
12:22 |
OldCoder |
I am nearly done with notes for you |
12:22 |
OldCoder |
Wait briefly |
12:23 |
OldCoder |
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12:24 |
OldCoder |
reactor, remarks follow. I will say done when done. |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
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12:24 |
OldCoder |
Temporary link for Pripyat mod list: http://minetest.org/pripyatmt.txt |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
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12:24 |
OldCoder |
Easy to add or remove mods |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
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12:24 |
OldCoder |
Textures you provided are included |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
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12:24 |
OldCoder |
Temporary zipped cache folder: minetest-cache-131105.zip |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
The cache folder is needed to enter the world without a half hour delay |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
The final cache may be smaller |
12:24 |
OldCoder |
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12:24 |
OldCoder |
Oops |
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12:25 |
reactor |
o_0 |
12:25 |
OldCoder |
That was considered a flood? Irritating but probably necessary |
12:25 |
OldCoder |
reactor, You were not here last year |
12:25 |
OldCoder |
Some degree of strictness is advisable |
12:25 |
OldCoder |
To proceed... |
12:25 |
OldCoder |
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12:25 |
OldCoder |
Temporary zipped cache folder: http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-cache-131105.zip |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
The cache folder is needed to enter the world without a half hour delay. The final cache may be smaller. |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
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12:26 |
OldCoder |
Windows MT client (cache folder must be replaced): http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-131102.zip |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
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12:26 |
OldCoder |
Client is believed to work with both Win 32 and Win 64 bits |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
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12:26 |
OldCoder |
Server: minetest.org |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
Current port: 30017 |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
World will run 24 hours a day but will reboot periodically for mod experiments |
12:26 |
OldCoder |
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12:26 |
OldCoder |
There is an error in serialize.lua that says sdata is nil. I need somebody to comment on that or there may be no animals. There are also about 5 missing textures in Technic, Food, and Animals. Whether or not we use those mods, I'd like to ask you to find somebody who can comment. |
12:27 |
OldCoder |
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12:27 |
OldCoder |
You can have FTP access later to upload or download "schemes" directly. |
12:27 |
OldCoder |
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12:27 |
OldCoder |
The world has been converted from SQLite3 to LevelDB format. However, you may have SQLite3 versions exported for your use if you wish. |
12:27 |
OldCoder |
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12:27 |
OldCoder |
Done. Is all of this satisfactory? |
12:27 |
* OldCoder |
is At Your Service! :P |
12:27 |
OldCoder |
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12:28 |
reactor |
Ty |
12:28 |
reactor |
Uh. I'm confused. |
12:28 |
* OldCoder |
assumes that these humble efforts are acceptable |
12:28 |
OldCoder |
Questions? |
12:29 |
reactor |
Idk |
12:29 |
reactor |
Leveldb... hmm. |
12:29 |
reactor |
What are the advantages? |
12:30 |
reactor |
And is there a way to use it here, too? |
12:30 |
OldCoder |
As follows: |
12:31 |
OldCoder |
Advantages: 1. Much faster and more reliable. 2. No 4GB limit. Make a nice big world! 3. Can be converted back and forth to SQLite3. But only up to 4GB. |
12:31 |
OldCoder |
Any Linux MT server can use LevelDB. Windows support is not ready. |
12:31 |
OldCoder |
Done |
12:32 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
12:32 |
ruskie |
why is there a 4gb limit? |
12:32 |
reactor |
Are there special optins I need to compile it with? |
12:32 |
OldCoder |
Note: There are no requirements for LevelDB on the client side. |
12:32 |
OldCoder |
There is no 4GB limit for LevelDB |
12:32 |
ruskie |
I mean sqlite itself doesn't have those limits |
12:32 |
reactor |
And, can singleplayer handle it? |
12:32 |
ruskie |
so I'm wondering why there are |
12:32 |
OldCoder |
But SQLite3 DOES have that limit |
12:32 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, it doesn't |
12:32 |
ruskie |
according to the sqlite pages |
12:32 |
OldCoder |
In a MT context it does |
12:32 |
ruskie |
ok |
12:32 |
ruskie |
so implementation detail then |
12:32 |
OldCoder |
This issue has broken several worlds |
12:33 |
OldCoder |
Yes, apparently |
12:33 |
OldCoder |
reactor, if you have a Linux box, you can have LevelDB |
12:33 |
OldCoder |
It is now part of upstream |
12:33 |
reactor |
Good. |
12:33 |
OldCoder |
I have been polite for 1.5 years as people work hard on MT |
12:33 |
ruskie |
but yeah I guess key value store would be better in such case |
12:33 |
OldCoder |
But I told them if they didn't merge LevelDB I'd fork |
12:34 |
* OldCoder |
is quite happy with MT now except for the slow network speed |
12:34 |
OldCoder |
reactor, I will give you my LevelDB MT build script now if you wish it |
12:34 |
OldCoder |
Shall I? |
12:34 |
* ruskie |
more or less stopped playing all block based online games for a while... got tired of them |
12:35 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, does that include MT? We must reignite the interest |
12:35 |
ruskie |
that includes MT and MC ;) |
12:35 |
ruskie |
and no I just get bored of sandbox games |
12:35 |
OldCoder |
Well glad you are here. What exactly is a sandbox game? |
12:35 |
ruskie |
MT is one example ;) |
12:35 |
ruskie |
of a sandbox game |
12:35 |
OldCoder |
I know |
12:35 |
OldCoder |
But what is the definition? |
12:36 |
ruskie |
you get a world defined by some limitations and are let lose in it |
12:36 |
OldCoder |
That is a very broad category!! |
12:36 |
reactor |
OldCoder: yep |
12:36 |
ruskie |
yup |
12:36 |
reactor |
OldCoder: I still haven't fixed uploads on my FTP, though. |
12:36 |
OldCoder |
reactor, I can link the script here. Wait. |
12:36 |
reactor |
mk |
12:37 |
ruskie |
having tools to modify the world generally is also a bit more narrower |
12:38 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/build-mtserver.txt |
12:38 |
OldCoder |
reactor, there are some details specific to me but this will give you the idea |
12:38 |
OldCoder |
You will need to install curl and leveldb for your distro |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
Also change -j 4 to -j 2 if you have a single core machine |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
And the tarball name may vary |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
But that is what I am presently using |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
In world.mt |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
You would change the backend from sqlite3 to leveldb |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
For a new world |
12:39 |
OldCoder |
To convert an existing world, there is another script |
12:40 |
OldCoder |
But I need to nap before going to work soon; ask me for the convert script another time |
12:40 |
OldCoder |
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12:40 |
OldCoder |
Reactor have you received sufficient assistance for the moment? Is your money ($0.00) well spent :P ? |
12:40 |
OldCoder |
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12:40 |
reactor |
a sec |
12:40 |
OldCoder |
We trust you are pleased and invite you to visit your new world |
12:40 |
reactor |
Too many interrupts. |
12:40 |
OldCoder |
You will be opped the next time I am there |
12:40 |
OldCoder |
Interrupts? |
12:41 |
reactor |
Hang on, I'm handling telephone. |
12:44 |
reactor |
Back. |
12:45 |
reactor |
OldCoder: thank you, it is :) |
12:48 |
OldCoder |
All right! |
12:48 |
OldCoder |
We will talk further |
12:48 |
OldCoder |
I may need to nap soon |
12:48 |
OldCoder |
reactor, try to find people who can comment on the missing textures and on the serialize.lua error |
12:48 |
OldCoder |
No rush |
12:48 |
reactor |
I have no idea. |
12:48 |
reactor |
They might... be here? |
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12:55 |
dafull97 |
Hey Guys! |
12:56 |
reactor |
eH yuGsy ! |
12:56 |
dafull97 |
what reactor? |
12:56 |
dafull97 |
lol |
12:58 |
reactor |
Endinanness. |
12:58 |
dafull97 |
Lol, so what you guys doing? |
12:59 |
reactor |
s/at/at are/ |
12:59 |
reactor |
Correcting people's spelling and grammar. |
13:00 |
dafull97 |
=/, "Hey Guys!" is correct... =P |
13:01 |
kaeza |
speling* grammer* |
13:01 |
reactor |
gramer |
13:01 |
dafull97 |
I'm Confused =/ |
13:04 |
thexyz |
oh wow |
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13:05 |
thexyz |
sorry can't stop laughing |
13:05 |
thexyz |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o |
13:05 |
EvergreenTree |
!title |
13:05 |
MinetestBot |
EvergreenTree: Internet Explorer: The Anime -- feat Inori Aizawa - YouTube |
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13:09 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, Good morning |
13:10 |
OldCoder |
reactor, so far nobody seems to know what to do about the error |
13:10 |
dafull97 |
Hey OldCoder, how are you? |
13:10 |
reactor |
OldCoder: ...yes. |
13:10 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, A bit tired. It is 5:10am here |
13:10 |
reactor |
OldCoder: what are we gonna do? |
13:10 |
OldCoder |
reactor, we shall put up the world and have fun with it |
13:10 |
dafull97 |
OldCoder, oh it is 8:10 here |
13:11 |
OldCoder |
All right |
13:11 |
OldCoder |
reactor, work on your edits; we will speak further |
13:13 |
reactor |
? |
13:14 |
reactor |
mk |
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13:14 |
reactor |
I'm loading the underground level |
13:17 |
reactor |
OldCoder: I've joined the server, now I'm falling |
13:18 |
OldCoder |
falling? |
13:18 |
OldCoder |
Hang on. I shall come and op you. |
13:18 |
OldCoder |
We need to set spawn. |
13:18 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
13:18 |
OldCoder |
reactor, you will need to wait 10 minutes |
13:19 |
OldCoder |
I can't run MT while VirtualBox is open |
13:19 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
13:19 |
OldCoder |
Hang on... as you fall :P |
13:19 |
reactor |
mk |
13:19 |
reactor |
The spawn... Uh, let it be the bus. |
13:19 |
reactor |
In fact, the coach is the only thing that is not abandoned. |
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13:24 |
OldCoder |
reactor, coords? |
13:24 |
OldCoder |
I will shut down the world briefly and make two quick changes |
13:24 |
OldCoder |
Set coords and view range |
13:25 |
reactor |
hmm |
13:25 |
reactor |
a sec |
13:26 |
OldCoder |
Does anybody have a thought on what active_block_range should be? |
13:26 |
OldCoder |
I am going to set: viewing_range_nodes_min = 15 |
13:27 |
OldCoder |
I could adjust active_block_range too |
13:27 |
reactor |
What does it affect? |
13:29 |
OldCoder |
If I knew, I would have the answer :-) |
13:29 |
OldCoder |
So where do you wish spawn? |
13:29 |
OldCoder |
So that people do not fall into space |
13:30 |
reactor |
-105, 2, -171 |
13:31 |
OldCoder |
Hang on |
13:31 |
OldCoder |
reactor, any other changes before restart? |
13:31 |
OldCoder |
BTW Obsidian |
13:31 |
OldCoder |
is in _game now |
13:31 |
OldCoder |
firearms are added as you requested |
13:31 |
reactor |
mk |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
And I have been advised NOT to use Nether until it is fixed |
13:32 |
reactor |
Do any mods exist that add grenades? |
13:32 |
reactor |
I will not use nether. |
13:32 |
reactor |
I only need nether blocks. |
13:32 |
reactor |
Because the map ported depends on them. |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
Tell me how to do that |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
I don't know about grenades |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
PM me later as I must rest |
13:32 |
reactor |
I used minecraft nether blocks due to shortage of blocks. |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
Restarting world now |
13:32 |
OldCoder |
OK |
13:33 |
OldCoder |
reactor, world is restarted. Check spawn. Tell me later how to add nether blocks. And I will upload the next version of map when ready. |
13:33 |
OldCoder |
Time to rest. I will check for messages in 10 minutes and then nap. |
13:34 |
OldCoder |
If you are in the world at that time I will op you. |
13:34 |
reactor |
Good night, if I don't say anything. |
13:34 |
OldCoder |
Well, join so I can op |
13:34 |
OldCoder |
Also check spawn |
13:34 |
reactor |
I'm there. |
13:34 |
OldCoder |
om then |
13:34 |
OldCoder |
That was fast! |
13:34 |
reactor |
? |
13:35 |
OldCoder |
You got in quickly |
13:35 |
OldCoder |
Sure you do not need to restart? |
13:35 |
OldCoder |
I restarted the world |
13:35 |
OldCoder |
I am entering now myself |
13:35 |
reactor |
?! |
13:36 |
* OldCoder |
is confused by all the ? |
13:36 |
OldCoder |
I'd like to get animals working |
13:36 |
OldCoder |
If you meet somebody who can comment on the serialize error send them to me |
13:36 |
reactor |
the game hung |
13:37 |
OldCoder |
I think |
13:37 |
OldCoder |
You were in a defunct copy |
13:37 |
OldCoder |
Did you restart when I did? |
13:37 |
reactor |
No |
13:37 |
reactor |
that's why |
13:37 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
13:37 |
OldCoder |
I am there |
13:37 |
OldCoder |
Join, please |
13:37 |
reactor |
mk |
13:37 |
reactor |
joining |
13:38 |
reactor |
hmm |
13:38 |
reactor |
Stuck on media, despite having unpacked the cache. |
13:38 |
OldCoder |
You used the ZIP file I provided? |
13:39 |
OldCoder |
And it is unpacked so that cache folder lines up? |
13:39 |
OldCoder |
Should take less than 4 minutes to enter |
13:39 |
OldCoder |
I will take a short break and check back |
13:39 |
OldCoder |
I like all the flowers |
13:39 |
OldCoder |
Nice buildings too |
13:39 |
reactor |
mk |
13:40 |
reactor |
I'm finally there. |
13:40 |
reactor |
But in the void. |
13:40 |
OldCoder |
Because |
13:40 |
OldCoder |
I changed spawn after you started |
13:40 |
OldCoder |
Hang on |
13:40 |
reactor |
yep |
13:40 |
OldCoder |
What nick are you using? |
13:40 |
reactor |
mike |
13:41 |
OldCoder |
Teleport to spawn |
13:41 |
OldCoder |
You have op |
13:41 |
OldCoder |
c u later |
13:41 |
OldCoder |
We will add IRC mod later |
13:41 |
OldCoder |
Remember my requests... I need people to comment on missing Technic Animals Food textures and on a serialize.lua problem |
13:41 |
OldCoder |
|
13:41 |
reactor |
Later. And thank you, again. |
13:42 |
OldCoder |
Oh, Reactor... |
13:42 |
OldCoder |
Here is part of the price for your world: |
13:42 |
reactor |
I don't know how I can resolve that. |
13:42 |
OldCoder |
use Places to record interesting places |
13:42 |
reactor |
Oh. |
13:42 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
13:42 |
reactor |
I will. |
13:42 |
OldCoder |
I wish coords, screenshots, and brief remarks |
13:42 |
reactor |
That one I can do. |
13:42 |
OldCoder |
About what you and others build here |
13:42 |
OldCoder |
Do you follow? Let us get a nice little tour of the world |
13:42 |
* OldCoder |
is on a break |
13:42 |
reactor |
I do. |
13:43 |
reactor |
I think first I'll make coords and descripting. |
13:43 |
reactor |
s/ing/ions/ |
13:43 |
reactor |
I'm not very good at making screenshots. |
13:43 |
OldCoder |
Others can do that |
13:43 |
OldCoder |
Just make a text file of coords *and* remarks |
13:43 |
reactor |
This is strange. |
13:44 |
OldCoder |
Places mod may help |
13:44 |
OldCoder |
Bug? |
13:44 |
reactor |
Vertical slabs don't work. |
13:44 |
OldCoder |
Well, make a list of problems |
13:44 |
reactor |
I mean, slabs ar not displayed correctly. |
13:44 |
OldCoder |
We will review debug.txt etc. |
13:44 |
reactor |
s/ar/are/ |
13:44 |
reactor |
mk |
13:44 |
OldCoder |
It is fine... expect glitches and crashes. But this is not bad for one day, is it? |
13:44 |
OldCoder |
|
13:46 |
reactor |
Is there a command for creating coords? |
13:46 |
reactor |
Clicking the GUI would be tedious. |
13:46 |
reactor |
Also, should I add _all_ the places of interest, or only that are appropriately modeled? |
13:49 |
reactor |
oh |
13:49 |
reactor |
I see. |
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15:00 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
15:00 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: I have time now.. |
15:04 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
15:05 |
reactor |
VanessaE: o/ |
15:05 |
reactor |
VanessaE: Pripyat tour? |
15:05 |
harrison |
ow |
15:05 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: I just wanted you to make a tweak to the "wrongly-formatted topics" script and re-run it. If a link has both no download and no license link, or if both are set to n/a (case insensitive), these should not be considered as errors. |
15:06 |
VanessaE |
your script flagged several of my obsolete mods :) |
15:06 |
VanessaE |
reactor: sure |
15:06 |
sfan5 |
it does not try to parse anything |
15:06 |
reactor |
VanessaE: minetest.org:30017 |
15:06 |
sfan5 |
it just "if 'someword' in post_content: ..." |
15:06 |
VanessaE |
s/if a link/if a post/ |
15:06 |
reactor |
Not sure if the spawn is right. |
15:06 |
harrison |
that's what she said |
15:07 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: ah ok. well re-run your script :P |
15:07 |
sfan5 |
ok |
15:07 |
reactor |
harrison: GLaDOS didn't say that. |
15:08 |
harrison |
beauty is momentary in the mind / the fitful tracing of a portal |
15:09 |
VanessaE |
reactor: I'm in. waiting for daylight. |
15:12 |
reactor |
I'm not. stuck on resources, again :( |
15:14 |
reactor |
Hmm. The instance of Minetest I ran to process underground schemes has started eating the memory after I exited the world to save changes. |
15:14 |
reactor |
I'm afraid it's gonna receive bus error this way. |
15:15 |
VanessaE |
mind giving flay/fast/daytime? :) |
15:15 |
reactor |
When I come, I will. |
15:15 |
VanessaE |
k |
15:15 |
reactor |
I'm currently useless: another Minetest is eatnig up the memory. |
15:18 |
VanessaE |
found an error on your map |
15:18 |
reactor |
? |
15:18 |
reactor |
All slabs are bugged. |
15:18 |
VanessaE |
at -862,0,-73 there is a plantlike node with the default_grass.png texture. Probably should be one of the default_grass_x.png textures |
15:19 |
VanessaE |
so far everything else looks right enough |
15:20 |
reactor |
How are slabs? |
15:20 |
reactor |
Last time I joined all slabs were misoriented. |
15:20 |
IceCraft |
hi |
15:20 |
VanessaE |
this map has gloopores (or glooptest)? kalite in one the main road along the eastern edge of the city |
15:20 |
VanessaE |
nothing wrong with the slabs, they're fine |
15:21 |
reactor |
Seen that, too. |
15:21 |
VanessaE |
(location of the kalite: -893,0,7 ) |
15:21 |
reactor |
If you mean the red ore and the purple one. |
15:21 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
15:23 |
reactor |
Finally, I've logged in. |
15:25 |
OldCoder |
Leaving shortly |
15:25 |
OldCoder |
reactor, how is it going? |
15:25 |
VanessaE |
quite a bit of lag here |
15:25 |
OldCoder |
None here |
15:26 |
OldCoder |
Let me check CPU |
15:26 |
OldCoder |
Load is zero |
15:26 |
OldCoder |
Network issue |
15:26 |
VanessaE |
yeah, must be network lag |
15:26 |
OldCoder |
This server can handle 50 times the current load |
15:26 |
VanessaE |
it's just slow to load the map |
15:26 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
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15:27 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I need to find out who can comment on a serialize.lua error that says sdata nil. Seems to be connected to mobf. |
15:27 |
OldCoder |
Plus us* has reported missing PNGs related to Animals, Food, and Technic |
15:27 |
VanessaE |
hm, this area looks familiar. Maybe the large-but-derelict apartments I've seen in photos once or twice? |
15:27 |
OldCoder |
But all of the latter except maybe Food are git current |
15:27 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: I've never had MOBF throw that error, are you sure your copy is up-to-date? (and the server itself) |
15:27 |
reactor |
OldCoder: o/ |
15:28 |
VanessaE |
ok |
15:28 |
reactor |
OldCoder: I have a preliminary list of places. |
15:28 |
reactor |
OldCoder: may I paste? |
15:29 |
OldCoder |
reactor, the bot will kick you |
15:29 |
OldCoder |
best to paste externally and link |
15:29 |
reactor |
mk |
15:29 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, everything is from the past few days |
15:29 |
OldCoder |
I pasted the exact error several times the other day; I will get it again now |
15:29 |
reactor |
ftp://mike402.no-ip.org:65421/pub/Pripyat/remarks |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
error:...opt/minetest047/share/minetest/builtin/serialize.lua:168: |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
attempt to index local 'sdata' (a nil value) |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
reactor, t y |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ^ |
15:30 |
reactor |
OldCoder: the environmental sounds are "too lively" |
15:30 |
VanessaE |
reactor: error resolving that domain. |
15:30 |
reactor |
Oops. |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
reactor, we can work on sound |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
he is biz |
15:30 |
reactor |
ftp://mike402.no-ip.biz:65421/pub/Pripyat/remarks |
15:31 |
OldCoder |
reactor, you no longer need that to be private? |
15:31 |
reactor |
OldCoder: addicental birds would be fine, but mostly the sound of empty space |
15:31 |
OldCoder |
reactor, can be adjusted |
15:31 |
OldCoder |
put it on the list |
15:31 |
reactor |
OldCoder: I've properly virtualised the server. |
15:31 |
OldCoder |
What does this mean? And thanks for the list |
15:32 |
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15:32 |
reactor |
OldCoder: ? |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
What does your point about virtualise mean? |
15:33 |
reactor |
As in, mostly wind blowing. |
15:33 |
* OldCoder |
is curious |
15:33 |
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15:33 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, Hi |
15:33 |
reactor |
Curiosity killed the cat. |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
reactor, if you wish sound changes, put it on the list |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
and |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
Satisfaction brought her back :P |
15:33 |
reactor |
Well, I run several servers on a single machine. |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
<reactor> Curiosity killed the cat |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
She got hit with a bat |
15:33 |
reactor |
And I need to make sure they are kept isolated from each other. |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
But that was not the end of that |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
Satisfaction brought her back |
15:34 |
OldCoder |
reactor, k |
15:34 |
OldCoder |
technic_akalin_dust.png technic_alatro_dust.png technic_arol_dust.png technic_talinite_dust.png |
15:34 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, those Technic dusts are coming up missing |
15:35 |
pitriss |
OldCoder: i think those dists shouldnt be in default technic.. |
15:35 |
pitriss |
*dusts |
15:35 |
OldCoder |
So are food_cigar.png food_soup_chicken_raw.png and other foods |
15:35 |
pitriss |
OldCoder: it should be in if then clause and depend on other mod installed |
15:35 |
OldCoder |
pitriss, so how should I resolve the errors? |
15:35 |
reactor |
The most bothering problem so far is slabs not being placed properly. |
15:35 |
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15:36 |
OldCoder |
reactor, have fun perhaps it can be fixed |
15:36 |
reactor |
mk |
15:36 |
pitriss |
OldCoder: hmm hmm try to find those definition and recipes and just delete it |
15:36 |
OldCoder |
Not much time but we will see |
15:36 |
VanessaE |
the slabs look fine, reactor |
15:36 |
reactor |
Eh?! |
15:36 |
OldCoder |
g2g folks c u sometime later busy day ahead |
15:36 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
15:36 |
VanessaE |
if you're using an old version of Minetest, you'll see that |
15:36 |
reactor |
o/ |
15:36 |
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15:36 |
pitriss |
OldCoder: if you don'ŧ have alantro etc in your game, of course.. |
15:37 |
reactor |
Their placement changed again? |
15:37 |
reactor |
Does that mean the map generated in old MT will be useless? |
15:37 |
OldCoder |
Make notes on problems. pitriss But I just installed default Technic. I will grep later thank you. |
15:37 |
OldCoder |
No |
15:37 |
OldCoder |
Can be adjusted |
15:37 |
OldCoder |
Or can regenerate with new MT |
15:37 |
VanessaE |
when 6dfacedir was added, it made old clients act weird. |
15:37 |
reactor |
oh |
15:37 |
VanessaE |
but I see nothing whatsoever wrong over here |
15:38 |
OldCoder |
If anybody can find out about the serialize.lua error later let me know I would like to have cows |
15:38 |
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15:39 |
reactor |
By the way, cooked rats would be fine for health replenishment. |
15:39 |
reactor |
I replaced their texture with Soviet medkits. |
15:39 |
OldCoder |
Yum |
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16:02 |
VanessaE |
the map's too slow-loading :( |
16:02 |
VanessaE |
hey EvergreenTree |
16:02 |
reactor |
Yep. |
16:03 |
reactor |
EvergreenTree: o/ |
16:03 |
EvergreenTree |
Heyo |
16:03 |
EvergreenTree |
reactor, I guess that's your official greeting for me now? :P |
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16:03 |
reactor |
EvergreenTree: What do you mean? |
16:03 |
EvergreenTree |
Saying o/ every time I join |
16:03 |
EvergreenTree |
Hi Jordach |
16:04 |
VanessaE |
o/ is waving |
16:04 |
reactor |
Okay. Next time I will use " o/' ". And that " ' " is a lumberjack's axe. |
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16:05 |
Jordach |
EvergreenTree, i send you a email and you don't reply :( |
16:06 |
EvergreenTree |
Whoops, sorry Jordach |
16:06 |
EvergreenTree |
I check emails rather infrequently |
16:06 |
reactor |
Since when replying to every mail is mandatory? |
16:08 |
EvergreenTree |
Because I don't get many of them |
16:08 |
EvergreenTree |
(I should be thankful though, no spam to be seen) |
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16:11 |
EvergreenTree |
RealBadAngel, o/ |
16:11 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
16:11 |
VanessaE |
hey RBA |
16:12 |
reactor |
RealBadAngel: oh hi. |
16:12 |
reactor |
Bump mapping is unnecessary in MT. |
16:12 |
RealBadAngel |
for you, so dont use it |
16:12 |
RealBadAngel |
simple as that |
16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
many folks out there want the game to shine |
16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, all the minecraft like games have excellent shaders |
16:14 |
reactor |
But shaders can be used for something else. |
16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
and are way ahead with them, we have just started |
16:14 |
reactor |
Like water reflections. |
16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc |
16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
it will be done |
16:14 |
reactor |
And reflections would be good. |
16:15 |
VanessaE |
but first you need to resolve the version-compatibility issues before we talk about adding more shaders. |
16:15 |
VanessaE |
:) |
16:15 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
16:15 |
RealBadAngel |
today i have definitely fixed issues with geometry problems that affected bumpmapping and oclussion mapping |
16:16 |
VanessaE |
you mean the issue that made the textures sorta 'slide past' one another at the corners? |
16:16 |
RealBadAngel |
parallax mapping now works perfectly |
16:17 |
VanessaE |
did you test it with your current copy of HDX? :) |
16:17 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on for screenshots |
16:17 |
VanessaE |
(don't pull, you'll lose the normals) |
16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
shaders off: http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall1.png |
16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
bumpmapping only: http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall2.png |
16:18 |
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16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
bumpmapping + parallax mode 1: http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall3.png |
16:21 |
reactor |
HD textures do look out of place on blocky landscape. |
16:23 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: with those bricks, they actually look better with shaders off |
16:23 |
VanessaE |
your bumpmaps are too round and smooth for those bricks |
16:23 |
VanessaE |
the parallax depth looks right, though |
16:23 |
VanessaE |
but the bumpmap surfaces are too smooth and rounded. there's no detail |
16:25 |
reactor |
The bricks looks slimy. |
16:26 |
VanessaE |
yes |
16:26 |
VanessaE |
or like they're made of glass |
16:26 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: but forget about the parallax stuff for now. fix your damn water shader |
16:27 |
* Jordach |
agrees |
16:27 |
Jordach |
that one sfan5 complained about had me too |
16:28 |
RealBadAngel |
i had to start with solving tangents |
16:29 |
VanessaE |
jordach, what? |
16:29 |
RealBadAngel |
and that affects almost everything in shaders |
16:29 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, one of the shaders didn't compile for sfan5 either |
16:29 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
16:29 |
VanessaE |
well for me the shader compiles but does not work properly. seen the screenshots of my attempt? |
16:30 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, i have changed some things to work with older version of OpenGl |
16:30 |
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16:30 |
Jordach |
BETTER. |
16:30 |
Jordach |
MUCH BETTER. |
16:30 |
Jordach |
- --> Calinou (~Calinouunaffiliated/calinou) has joined #minetest |
16:30 |
Jordach |
it'd be better without Calinou :P |
16:30 |
RealBadAngel |
hi Calinou |
16:31 |
reactor |
Calinou: ohaider. |
16:31 |
Calinou |
hi |
16:31 |
RealBadAngel |
have you tried latest patch i posted? i wonder if errors you have reported are still there |
16:32 |
RealBadAngel |
Vanessa, those bricks are just an example to highlight the effects |
16:32 |
VanessaE |
Jordach, RealBadAngel: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2011062013%20-%2011:31:49%20AM.png |
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16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
i played even with 2048px textures to test it |
16:33 |
VanessaE |
that's with Haven and the shaders fork pulled and compiled yesterday |
16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
Vanessa, i know, we will fix it sooner or later |
16:34 |
VanessaE |
and this config file was used just now to take that screenshot: http://pastebin.com/p4TMshng |
16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
this can be caused by 3 thigs: different version of irrlicht (unlikely), OpenGL version or your video drivers |
16:36 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Hi. Not here yet. But I'd like to install the large trees you made. And there are several missing technic dust errors. |
16:36 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: my video driver is fully up-to-date. I'm at the very latest amd has to offer. |
16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
have you tried running mt with wine? |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
yes |
16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
and? |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
exact same effect. |
16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
funny ;) here it works either on windows and linux |
16:38 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, serves your right for buying the shittier processor and gpu |
16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
and rather low end GPU |
16:38 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, i get the water shaders under OGL 2.1.2 |
16:39 |
VanessaE |
slightly older build, under WINE: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2011062013%20-%2011:39:16%20AM.png |
16:40 |
VanessaE |
same config file. |
16:40 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, oh look, it works :P |
16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i will add new tangents to water shaders too |
16:40 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: no, it doesn;t. |
16:41 |
RealBadAngel |
first i need to push new parallax mapping |
16:41 |
Jordach |
and how about learning how to branch while you're at it too RealBadAngel |
16:41 |
VanessaE |
those two gradients move around on the water widely and randomly, and there's no actual water rippling effect as what RBA is trying ot make |
16:43 |
VanessaE |
in the linux screenshot, that blue circular region, and the pinkish circular blur in the distance move about randomly, though less so; the blue always stays close to the bottom of my screen, the other one usually stays just out of frame off to the top and side. |
16:44 |
RealBadAngel |
its weird that youre the only one not able to see correct water |
16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall4.png |
16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, here you go with another bricks |
16:45 |
VanessaE |
I'm not the only one. tkerwel, cHyper, hoodedice can't either it seems |
16:46 |
VanessaE |
well hoodedice has intel gfx so he doesn't count |
16:46 |
VanessaE |
and as you know sfan5 couldn't either because the shader wouldn't compile |
16:47 |
RealBadAngel |
it would be useful if i know opengl version of all that have problems |
16:47 |
reactor |
That's better. |
16:47 |
reactor |
Not as scary. |
16:47 |
reactor |
But still scary. |
16:47 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.12614 Core Profile Context 13.25.18 |
16:47 |
VanessaE |
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.30 |
16:47 |
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16:48 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: are you using anything not listed in here? http://pastebin.com/H9ah1qfD |
16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
idk whats that list means at all |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
Does anybody know who work on serialize.lua ? |
16:53 |
VanessaE |
I presume it's every shader feature my card supports. |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
* works |
16:53 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: don't work on it. leave it as found in upstream and just back the mod down until it works :P |
16:54 |
VanessaE |
it's most likely just a bug in MOBF. |
16:54 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I do not plan to work on that mod; I wish to know who does. ANd I have no idea what to do with mobf. I suppose cows and chickens cannot be had. |
16:54 |
OldCoder |
But it is good the world works as well as it does. |
16:55 |
VanessaE |
well serialize.lua is part of builtin, so it's minetest core territory |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
By "that mod" I mean serialize.lua as opposed to Animals; I assume that Animals still belongs to Sapier. |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. |
16:55 |
VanessaE |
so you have to approach it from the standpoint of MOBF being the problem |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
Has anybody seen Sapier recently? |
16:55 |
VanessaE |
he comes on here most days |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
All right, thanks |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
I have not seen him this past week though I have been more active |
16:56 |
VanessaE |
I might expect him just about any time time in fact |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
We will see; good luck with the shader issue |
16:56 |
VanessaE |
(he's in germany, so for him it's just about quttin' time I guess) |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
k |
16:56 |
VanessaE |
quittin' |
16:56 |
reactor |
Wb OldCoder. |
16:56 |
reactor |
I'm almost done processing the underground. |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
ty |
16:57 |
OldCoder |
k |
16:57 |
OldCoder |
I am here for about an hour then hours of meetings |
16:57 |
reactor |
I wish commands could be used remotely. |
16:57 |
reactor |
I mean, without client. |
16:57 |
VanessaE |
reactor: IRC mod. |
16:57 |
reactor |
It supportes that? |
16:58 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3905 |
16:58 |
VanessaE |
yes, particularly with the irc_commands add-on |
16:58 |
VanessaE |
I use it frequently. |
16:58 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
16:58 |
reactor |
Worledit still has no setting pos1 and pos2 by coordinates, afaik. |
16:59 |
VanessaE |
it requires you to compile a library for your machine though, but that's not hard. |
16:59 |
reactor |
I think I can do that. |
16:59 |
VanessaE |
sure it has. |
16:59 |
reactor |
Huh? |
16:59 |
VanessaE |
/p set if you wanna puch to set then. else, //pos1 <coords> //pos2 <coords> |
16:59 |
VanessaE |
//p set |
17:00 |
reactor |
//pos1 only accepts current coordinates |
17:00 |
VanessaE |
oh right |
17:00 |
* VanessaE |
is stupid |
17:00 |
VanessaE |
I'm mixing it up with the areas mod :P |
17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
if some1 wanna try, its win build with latest changes to shaders and Haven TP |
17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/upload/minetest-shaders-win32.zip |
17:00 |
OldCoder |
- settings->setDefault("enable_texture_atlas", "true"); |
17:00 |
OldCoder |
+ settings->setDefault("enable_texture_atlas", "false"); |
17:01 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, is that still good? |
17:01 |
reactor |
By far not everyone runs that bad OS. |
17:01 |
reactor |
s/bad/toy/ |
17:01 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: there is no texture atlas anymore. |
17:01 |
RealBadAngel |
there are not texture atlas |
17:01 |
OldCoder |
Very well t y |
17:01 |
VanessaE |
why are you patching the engine? |
17:01 |
RealBadAngel |
it has been removed |
17:02 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: BAH! no containing folder |
17:02 |
RealBadAngel |
? |
17:02 |
VanessaE |
just try unzipping it. |
17:03 |
VanessaE |
it spills its folders all over the work dir. |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
shit :) |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
i will repack it |
17:03 |
reactor |
tar bomb |
17:04 |
* Jordach |
claps |
17:06 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: my guess as to why your shaders fail for me is that your hacky way of getting those attributes and uniform sample buffers to your shaders is not possible with my particular setup. |
17:06 |
Jordach |
solids shader still shitty |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I have two patches that may still apply. One trivial patch that Sapier gave me for Animals. And a definite bug related to audio. |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
Checking them now |
17:06 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: don't apply any patches. |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I must |
17:06 |
VanessaE |
run clean upstream. |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
Cannot |
17:06 |
VanessaE |
it's very different from what you had before. |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
Without the audio patch... |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
I cannot take screenshots |
17:06 |
VanessaE |
try it anyway |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
I will post the patches and you may judge |
17:06 |
* Jordach |
smells ssh |
17:06 |
OldCoder |
No; already did |
17:07 |
OldCoder |
I will post the patches and you may judge |
17:07 |
OldCoder |
But let me resync them first |
17:07 |
OldCoder |
If you agree with them, push or pull them later |
17:07 |
OldCoder |
Whatever |
17:07 |
VanessaE |
why would an audio patch affect your ability to take screenshots? |
17:07 |
VanessaE |
that makes no sense |
17:08 |
VanessaE |
(Oh G*d I'm starting to sound like c55) |
17:08 |
Jordach |
how about we re-write minetest to use another graphics lib by 0.6 |
17:08 |
VanessaE |
yeah right |
17:08 |
Jordach |
then shaders would actually work :P |
17:09 |
VanessaE |
better to make it go direct to OpenGL and ditch support for DX and irrlicht anyway |
17:09 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, whats shitty in solids shaders? |
17:09 |
Jordach |
doesnt compile |
17:09 |
reactor |
Minetest no longer needs irrlicht? |
17:10 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, You will see momentarily. Both patches are still valid. |
17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, what errors? |
17:10 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, it fails to compile |
17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
if so it report errors |
17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
please copy them |
17:10 |
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17:10 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: serves you for using a shitty CPU/drivers/GPU :P |
17:11 |
VanessaE |
+right |
17:11 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/mtpatch-131106a.txt |
17:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ^ two patches |
17:11 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: I know this sounds lame, but did you actually try current git HEAD, master branch? without those patches? |
17:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ^ two patches |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
Of course I did |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
And I don't know if the first one is still needed |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
I need to ask Sapier about that one |
17:12 |
VanessaE |
ok just making sure. |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
This assumes that current git HEAD is: |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git |
17:12 |
VanessaE |
current HEAD is 8903c68460d79aeac6b1c5074003743f98371339 |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
Is this correct: |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git |
17:12 |
OldCoder |
? |
17:12 |
VanessaE |
should be yes |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
17:13 |
* Jordach |
pokes EvergreenTree |
17:13 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/XwIx5FG.png |
17:13 |
VanessaE |
but which commit are you at? |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
Two patches; I would like the 2nd one added |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
Does it matter? The patches have been correct for a year |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
Except Sapier needs to comment on the 1st one |
17:13 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: it matters. |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
Go on |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
I have simply done a git cline |
17:13 |
OldCoder |
I have simply done a git clone * a few days ago |
17:13 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: a few days ago? you're not current then. |
17:14 |
OldCoder |
Fine; I can build every day then |
17:14 |
OldCoder |
It does not matter unless somebody has added the 2nd patch |
17:14 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
the last commit was yesterday morning |
17:14 |
OldCoder |
Yes? |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
just making sure it all |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
is* |
17:14 |
OldCoder |
Shall I rebuild now? |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
yes |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
just to see where your client stands relative to what you remember |
17:14 |
* OldCoder |
proceeds |
17:15 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Unless somebody modified the OpenAL code in the last 3 days... it stands exactly where it was |
17:15 |
OldCoder |
But I am proceeding |
17:16 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, FWIW The 2nd patch simply disables warning messages that flood my screen |
17:16 |
VanessaE |
OH |
17:16 |
VanessaE |
you can get rid of those by pressing F2 |
17:16 |
OldCoder |
The messages in question are connected to OpenAL |
17:16 |
VanessaE |
just turn off the chat when taking screens |
17:16 |
OldCoder |
The messages are there all the time and mess up the game |
17:16 |
VanessaE |
(not that it helps you actually chat) |
17:17 |
OldCoder |
Need to be gone by default |
17:17 |
OldCoder |
Regarding the 1st patch, as I said, Sapier will need to comment on that one |
17:19 |
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17:19 |
OldCoder |
Patches apply cleanly |
17:19 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, wb |
17:19 |
dafull97 |
Thanks OldCoder, how are you so far today? |
17:20 |
dafull97 |
Megaf you here/ |
17:20 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, Day is still young. Physically rested quite a bit. Yesterday was difficult but progress on MT was fun. Reactor Pripyat world is up. |
17:20 |
dafull97 |
? |
17:20 |
dafull97 |
nice, havn't see that... and here it is 12:40 |
17:21 |
OldCoder |
Stopping my worlds and rebuilding now Vanessa... let us see what the Octocore can do |
17:21 |
dafull97 |
12:20 sorry =/ and what is Reactor Pripyat? |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you need to disable all of your performance tuning on the server configs and start over, btw. Pripyat world loads *really* slowly. |
17:21 |
OldCoder |
COmpile started |
17:21 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, OK |
17:22 |
VanessaE |
most of the old performance tuning stuff just doesn't apply anymore |
17:22 |
OldCoder |
Let me finish compile and show you the conf |
17:22 |
OldCoder |
You may state changes |
17:22 |
VanessaE |
ok |
17:22 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. Nice and fast. |
17:23 |
OldCoder |
Done |
17:23 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: here's what my survival server uses. The other four are similar: http://pastebin.com/fKPw2EFC |
17:23 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, was that fast enough to rebuild from scratch? |
17:23 |
VanessaE |
yes, quite so |
17:23 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing the paste |
17:23 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I will show you my conf in a moment |
17:24 |
reactor |
dafull97: ? |
17:25 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/pripyat-conf.txt |
17:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, suggest changes ^ |
17:25 |
dafull97 |
what is Reactor Pripyat, meaning is server or a map? |
17:25 |
dafull97 |
reactor^ |
17:25 |
* Jordach |
's hair got caught in the headphones hinge again |
17:26 |
reactor |
dafull97: it's my Pripyat map. |
17:26 |
reactor |
dafull97: not mine, but I'm porting it. |
17:26 |
reactor |
dafull97: making corrections along the way |
17:26 |
dafull97 |
nice, i will stop by later =) |
17:26 |
reactor |
mk |
17:26 |
dafull97 |
im in school so i can't =( |
17:26 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, That sounds interesting |
17:27 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, it hurts, my beard is getting long |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
I will need to shift focus to work shortly |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
Beard? |
17:27 |
Jordach |
(they've been doing so for years!) |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
Keep it trimmed |
17:27 |
Jordach |
it's a nice ginger-y brown |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
get rid of the congestion_control*, max_block_send_distance, and dedicated_server_step settings entirely. definitely enable rollback_recording. change max_simultaneous_block_sends* to what you see in my conf. Don't use remote_media, it's broken. |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
Beards have pros and cons |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, remote_media works for me I have kahrl code |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
I changed my map save interval to 600 (every 10 minutes) but you may wanna tune that to your needs. |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: ok, in that case keep it. |
17:28 |
OldCoder |
Oh... remind me... |
17:28 |
OldCoder |
Is that a client side patch or a server one? |
17:28 |
reactor |
VanessaE: is it about speeding up the map loading? |
17:28 |
VanessaE |
kahrl's code is both I think. |
17:28 |
VanessaE |
reactor: the max_sim* settings will help some, yes. |
17:28 |
OldCoder |
Hmm... I had best put back the 131102 files until we talk to him |
17:28 |
OldCoder |
I don't recall using a server side patch |
17:28 |
VanessaE |
the other settings just don't matter anymore |
17:29 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, rollback slows things down doesn't it? |
17:29 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: kahrl's code is server-side for sure, because clients already have basic cURL support. |
17:29 |
reactor |
OldCoder: I've just finished processing underground. |
17:29 |
VanessaE |
it can, but it doesn't usually. |
17:29 |
VanessaE |
especially if you have a fast disk |
17:29 |
reactor |
There are still some holes in it, but it's better. |
17:29 |
OldCoder |
I think we need to talk to him... Not sure patch is applied correctly here |
17:29 |
OldCoder |
Removed congestion control |
17:29 |
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17:30 |
OldCoder |
Removed max_block_send_distance |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
[11-06 12:26] <celeron55> uhm... i guess the feeding of error messages to the chat could be removed |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
[11-06 12:29] <celeron55> it's just a few lines that deal with chat_log_error_buf in game.cpp |
17:30 |
OldCoder |
k |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
so maybe there will be an upstream commit to that soon |
17:30 |
dafull97 |
How would i go about making maps for minetest? |
17:30 |
OldCoder |
Removed dedicated_server_step |
17:30 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, Just build |
17:30 |
OldCoder |
In offline mode |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
[11-06 12:30] <celeron55> just adding a third boolean parameter to ChatBackend::addMessage to determine whether they go to the non-console buffer would work fine |
17:31 |
dafull97 |
so cannot use somthing like scratch 3d? |
17:32 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
17:32 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I made the conf changes except for rollback. I think I need to go back to the other day's server sources until we discuss kahrl code with him. Any chance of getting his stuff sent upstream? |
17:32 |
OldCoder |
rubenwardy, Hi |
17:32 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, No |
17:32 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, actually sort of |
17:32 |
OldCoder |
dafull97, There may be offline map editors or they could be written |
17:32 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: soon actually yes. one sec please. |
17:35 |
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17:37 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, http://realbadangel.pl/images/hdx_bricks.png |
17:38 |
VanessaE |
not too bad but a but too smooth |
17:38 |
VanessaE |
bit* |
17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
i made this normalmap tricky |
17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i desaturated your bricks, inverted them and made normalmap out of such image |
17:41 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I will check back in a little while. RealBadAngel I wish the large trees. And I am getting reports of missing Technic Dusts of different types. |
17:41 |
* OldCoder |
will bbiab |
17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, regarding moretrees ask VanessaE |
17:41 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I have that I think; are those the large trees you showed off months ago? |
17:41 |
OldCoder |
The really big ones? |
17:42 |
OldCoder |
bbiab |
17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
17:45 |
OldCoder |
k t y |
17:46 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-11-04 |
17:46 |
OldCoder |
R |
17:46 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: moretrees, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394 |
17:46 |
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17:47 |
VanessaE |
needs plantlife, which you already have (btw, please pull, there are updates) |
17:47 |
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17:47 |
MNR |
Hi |
17:47 |
VanessaE |
hi |
17:48 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, so another try: http://realbadangel.pl/images/hdx_bricks2.png |
17:48 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, IIRC I have moretrees. What was the conclusion about httpfetch? I don't see a conclusion. |
17:48 |
OldCoder |
Pulling plantlife now |
17:48 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: just that what you read there is what needs done. it has not yet been done afaik |
17:48 |
* VanessaE |
pokes kahrl |
17:49 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: the parallax is not bad, but still not enough detail on the bricks and mortar |
17:49 |
MNR |
I am to minetest so how do you fly?? |
17:49 |
MNR |
new |
17:49 |
Menche |
MNR, press 'k' |
17:50 |
RealBadAngel |
type /grant singleplayer all |
17:50 |
MNR |
thanks |
17:50 |
reactor |
You are new to English, too, aren't you? |
17:50 |
RealBadAngel |
then press K for fly |
17:50 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: you need to shrink the size of the bricks parts of the normalmaps so that the mortar doesn't get stretched. |
17:50 |
VanessaE |
the side edges of the brick should look like brick :P |
17:51 |
Jordach |
!next |
17:51 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
17:51 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, updated most of your mods including moretrees |
17:52 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: sweet :) |
17:52 |
OldCoder |
Takes only seconds. I will need to go soon. Will probably run server from a few days ago until we talk to Kahrl. I'm trying to remember what we did. He seemed satisfied at the time. |
17:52 |
* OldCoder |
is hesitant to break things |
17:55 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/images/hdx_bricks3.png |
17:56 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: getting better. |
17:56 |
VanessaE |
push the code. |
17:56 |
VanessaE |
and fix the damn water shader :) |
17:56 |
VanessaE |
(you know I won't let up on that :) ) |
17:56 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, technic grinder recipes references akalin_dust but there is no such image. There are multiple instances of this issue. Should the images be pulled from some old version of Technic? |
17:56 |
Jordach |
more code less textyres |
17:57 |
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17:57 |
markveidemanis |
Hi |
17:57 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, Hi |
17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
Oldcoder, that are just recipes, nekogloop shall take care of the items, those are from gloopores |
17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
he asked for those recipes |
17:58 |
OldCoder |
That is fine; but I am getting errors |
17:58 |
OldCoder |
How shall I fix the errors? Delete those lines from Technic? |
17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
what errors are you getting? |
17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
if there are no items, recipes wont do anything |
17:59 |
OldCoder |
I said before |
17:59 |
OldCoder |
Several Technic Dust images |
17:59 |
OldCoder |
do not exist |
17:59 |
OldCoder |
If they are to be provided by gloopores |
17:59 |
OldCoder |
But are not |
17:59 |
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17:59 |
OldCoder |
I suppose I should remove the lines that cause the errors |
18:00 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, was it you or sfan5 who gave me a simple anti-lava mod a year ago? |
18:00 |
OldCoder |
Very simple but things were a bit messed up and I don't have it now |
18:00 |
Exio4 |
what would you do with an old pc w/ 16mb ram + 512mb hdd? |
18:00 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
18:00 |
OldCoder |
Run a startup |
18:01 |
Jordach |
Exio4, linux + bare minetest server |
18:01 |
Exio4 |
with 16mb of ram? |
18:01 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
18:01 |
Exio4 |
and.. a 96' cpu? |
18:02 |
OldCoder |
Good enough for static web server |
18:02 |
VanessaE |
16MB? jeez, my commodore 64 has more than that |
18:02 |
OldCoder |
16MB is 16 times |
18:02 |
OldCoder |
What Bill Gates said was more RAM than we would ever need :P |
18:03 |
kaeza |
oh teh irony |
18:03 |
Exio4 |
640kb is enough for anyone |
18:03 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
18:03 |
Exio4 |
the hdd has atm a working windows 95 |
18:03 |
PilzAdam |
OldCoder, ummm.... a year ago?, dunno |
18:03 |
Jordach |
s/everyone!/world! |
18:03 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, Very simple mod that did something about lava traveling vertically down |
18:04 |
OldCoder |
Eliminated a too-easy way to explode worlds |
18:04 |
OldCoder |
Angle 90 degrees and lava was locked out; something like that |
18:04 |
OldCoder |
c u later o/ |
18:04 |
* OldCoder |
is AFK working |
18:04 |
VanessaE |
bill gates never actually said that 640k line |
18:04 |
OldCoder |
No? Pripyat World and Zegaton are restarted with server from weekend. I will upgrade server to git current after talking to kahrl |
18:05 |
OldCoder |
For cache to speed up loads of worlds, see the link I posted earlier |
18:05 |
kaeza |
Exio4, make some cool game in JS. does not matter how complex; processing power in needed client-side anyway :P |
18:06 |
kaeza |
is* |
18:06 |
Exio4 |
haha |
18:08 |
* Jordach |
evilly laughs |
18:08 |
VanessaE |
that reminds me... |
18:09 |
* VanessaE |
updates her servers' cache archive. |
18:09 |
Jordach |
VLC can steal audio sources and record from them, suck it DRM |
18:10 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: always remember this mantra: "If I can see or hear it, I can copy it." |
18:10 |
Jordach |
heh |
18:13 |
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18:13 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: I have two 128MB RAM thingys lying around.. |
18:14 |
* Jordach |
has a pile of ram sticks several inches high |
18:14 |
* dafull97 |
has nothing |
18:14 |
Exio4 |
i have some [cs jere |
18:14 |
Exio4 |
pcs |
18:15 |
* dafull97 |
and laughs Evil |
18:15 |
dafull97 |
idk, im bored |
18:15 |
Exio4 |
an amd duron, 900mhz, with 80gb hdd (ide ofc), and 256+128mb of ram |
18:15 |
reactor |
AMD Moron |
18:15 |
Exio4 |
a sempron with ddr2 ram and overclocked w/ fsb to 3500mhz |
18:15 |
Exio4 |
and an 486SX now |
18:15 |
* sfan5 |
has an 64GB HDD (IDE 3,5') and 250GB HDD (SATA 2,5') lying around |
18:16 |
kaeza |
486 O_O |
18:16 |
Exio4 |
what kaeza |
18:16 |
Exio4 |
:D |
18:16 |
* dafull97 |
is switching to 4th block |
18:16 |
* dafull97 |
then he will go home =) |
18:16 |
sfan5 |
and 2 cooling fans and an AMD turion 64 x2 |
18:17 |
reactor |
Night. |
18:17 |
Jordach |
sfan5, post me that 250gb pl0x |
18:17 |
Jordach |
im running out of room :D |
18:18 |
Exio4 |
i have a 160gb hdd sata atm |
18:18 |
Jordach |
160gb isnt enough for me :P |
18:18 |
Exio4 |
but there is a small problem, it is broken |
18:18 |
Exio4 |
:D |
18:18 |
Jordach |
i'd completely move my media partition to the 250gb |
18:19 |
sfan5 |
oh, I also have an 17'' TFT WXGA+ TFT with LVDS interface lying around |
18:19 |
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18:19 |
sfan5 |
and a laptop keyboard with some unknown interface |
18:20 |
Jordach |
unknown interface |
18:20 |
Jordach |
pics pl0x |
18:21 |
sfan5 |
coming |
18:23 |
sfan5 |
godangit |
18:23 |
sfan5 |
+d |
18:24 |
sfan5 |
i just wanted to post that img and first the irc client crashes and then my whole ipod crashes |
18:26 |
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18:26 |
sfan5[iPod] |
Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/AMdraWAh.jpg |
18:26 |
sfan5[iPod] |
meow |
18:29 |
sfan5 |
I also have a 3,5' FDD and a network card with an RTL8029AS |
18:29 |
sfan5 |
and a DVD burner/reader with another unknown interface |
18:31 |
sfan5 |
and a TV card with another unknown interface and finally a small TFT from a digital camera |
18:31 |
sfan5 |
thats all :P |
18:32 |
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18:32 |
OldCoder |
I'm here for 10 minutes and I'll note suggestions related to Pripyat. But I think we're paused for now. To summarize for anybody interested: (1) Holding software updates pending kahrl httpfetch questions (2) Will update the map for reactor (3) Hoping to speak with Sapier regarding mobf serialize error (4) Need to edit Technic, Food, Animals to fix missing images (5) Made config changes suggested by VE |
18:33 |
OldCoder |
Thank you to people for assistance over the past few days |
18:33 |
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18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Awards Mod 0.3 -!- https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/773f7993203ee0d953bf019fd5e0f818e7008241 |
18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Fixed a ton of bugs |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
!title |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
18:35 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
:-/ |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
!title |
18:36 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, IIRC !me didnt work yesterday |
18:36 |
sfan5 |
hmmm |
18:36 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Restructure for bulletproof-ness · 773f799 · rubenwardy/awards · GitHub |
18:36 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot: too late |
18:36 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Restructure for bulletproof-ness · 773f799 · rubenwardy/awards · GitHub |
18:39 |
rubenwardy |
Basically the ton of errors that occured before are fixed |
18:39 |
rubenwardy |
(and probably new ones added) |
18:40 |
dante123 |
hi all i set max_users = 25 in minetest.conf but evertime I reboot server it allows something like 15 people in....then get too many users error. How do I make the max_users option stick or stay permanent |
18:40 |
dante123 |
when i check minetest.conf, the max_users line is missing even though i saved it with it in there |
18:41 |
PilzAdam |
have you edited minetest.conf while a Minetest server is running? |
18:42 |
dante123 |
probably |
18:42 |
PilzAdam |
you shouldnt do that |
18:42 |
dante123 |
ok will shut it down then try again |
18:43 |
rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=117269#p117269 |
18:43 |
rubenwardy |
!title |
18:43 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: [Mod] Achievements [0.3 -!- bug fix to be usable] [awards] (Page 3) — Mod Releases — Minetest Fo[...] |
18:43 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
18:44 |
dante123 |
thanks PilzAdam that seemed to do the trick |
18:53 |
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18:54 |
Rhy5 |
Now with me banned and rollbacked from RealTest, the server will be a better place. |
18:54 |
dafull97 |
NAND FLASH memory? |
18:54 |
dafull97 |
what is ^^ |
18:56 |
Jordach |
Rhy5, hm |
18:56 |
Rhy5 |
Don't worry Jordach. |
18:57 |
markveidemanis |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7635 I think someone attempted this with mods a while ago... |
18:58 |
Rhy5 |
Mark? It's been a long time |
18:59 |
Jordach |
bb shadow |
19:00 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: seen the image? |
19:01 |
ShadowNinja |
:-| This is unusual, the server had very good uptime before I moved ShadowBot to it. |
19:01 |
Jordach |
sfan5, http://www.darfon.com.tw/English/ |
19:01 |
Jordach |
i get lead there |
19:01 |
sfan5 |
there is no info there |
19:01 |
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19:02 |
Jordach |
sfan5, http://www.darfon.com.tw/English/HID_NBkb.asp?item=AF |
19:02 |
Jordach |
does that look familiar |
19:02 |
sfan5 |
ye |
19:02 |
sfan5 |
s |
19:02 |
sfan5 |
but there is no info about the connector |
19:02 |
Jordach |
hm |
19:03 |
Rhy5 |
I'll come back on IRC later. |
19:04 |
Rhy5 |
Wait, I'll stay |
19:05 |
dafull97 |
who would like to look at my animations so far? |
19:05 |
dafull97 |
i did them in school |
19:06 |
dafull97 |
PM please if you want to, thanks... |
19:06 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/emqTmAg.png |
19:06 |
Jordach |
fuck the animations |
19:07 |
dafull97 |
-_- lol, ok |
19:07 |
dafull97 |
=) |
19:07 |
Rhy5 |
Lovely image. :) |
19:07 |
dafull97 |
well not trouble post links> |
19:07 |
dafull97 |
who would like to look |
19:07 |
Jordach |
prototype http://i.imgur.com/faOuDSU.png |
19:08 |
dafull97 |
http://cpu.gozure.com/Animations.html |
19:08 |
sfan5 |
>Flash |
19:08 |
Jordach |
> flash |
19:08 |
sfan5 |
*D:* |
19:08 |
dafull97 |
second one to you Jordach, and yes indeed |
19:09 |
* Jordach |
dies |
19:09 |
* MinetestBot |
dies |
19:09 |
* dafull97 |
kills |
19:09 |
dafull97 |
lol |
19:10 |
dafull97 |
what is sooo wrong with flash? |
19:10 |
Jordach |
because everyone uses HTML5 now |
19:10 |
Menche |
buggy, slow, obsolete... |
19:10 |
sfan5 |
it eats resources (cpu, gpu) |
19:10 |
Jordach |
works on my SGS4, iPhone 5C |
19:10 |
dafull97 |
yes true to both =/ |
19:10 |
dafull97 |
well, haha |
19:10 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: you have an iPhone 5C? |
19:11 |
dafull97 |
i attempt |
19:11 |
Jordach |
sfan5, im a cheap bastard :D |
19:11 |
Jordach |
also: NSA |
19:11 |
Jordach |
i aint givin no thumb prints |
19:11 |
* Jordach |
will probably use a nipple for it |
19:11 |
sfan5 |
>iPhone 5C >cheap |
19:11 |
sfan5 |
haha |
19:11 |
sfan5 |
yeah sure |
19:11 |
sfan5 |
cheap.. |
19:11 |
Jordach |
(other body parts work with the fingerprint thingy) |
19:11 |
sfan5 |
the cheapest apple product is the iTouch5G 16 GB |
19:11 |
Menche |
>i[anything] >cheap |
19:12 |
Jordach |
Menche, +1 for regex |
19:12 |
sfan5 |
after that comes the iPad mini 16 GB WiFi |
19:12 |
Jordach |
> iPad >cheap |
19:12 |
Jordach |
i'd rather buy a fucking surface 2 |
19:13 |
sfan5 |
^i[a-zA-z]+ ([a-z]+ )?[0-9]GS?$ |
19:14 |
sfan5 |
I mean ^i[a-zA-z]+ ([a-z]+ )?[0-9](G|C|S)?$ |
19:14 |
kaeza |
A-z ? |
19:14 |
Jordach |
sfan5, on a contact, the 5C is free as in free beer |
19:16 |
dafull97 |
i have a good idea.. =) |
19:16 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: s/contact/contract/ ? |
19:16 |
Jordach |
that |
19:16 |
Jordach |
you know my spelling is shit this time of night |
19:16 |
sfan5 |
>night >20:16 GMT+2 |
19:17 |
Jordach |
GMT+1 actually |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
oh right.. |
19:17 |
Jordach |
i'm in the GMT+0 range |
19:17 |
Jordach |
because London |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
lol, they now sell a Raspberry Pi XMAS bundle at Reichelt |
19:17 |
Jordach |
*Third |
19:18 |
dafull97 |
anyone selling a Raspberry pi or a similar board? |
19:18 |
Jordach |
its fuck all cash dude |
19:19 |
Jordach |
i'd buy 64 of em and make a render farm |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
lolno |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
a http://www.parallella.org/ would be way better for that |
19:19 |
Jordach |
gram* |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
wow, a 320 GB HDD is 36 € |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
s/a/an/ |
19:20 |
Jordach |
i can get 1tb for ~£70 |
19:20 |
sfan5 |
83€... |
19:21 |
dafull97 |
nah, not the best Jordach |
19:21 |
sfan5 |
this one ( http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=121850;PROVID=1024 ) is 55€ |
19:21 |
Jordach |
sfan5, *third |
19:21 |
dafull97 |
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXino-MICRO |
19:21 |
dafull97 |
the best so far ^^ |
19:22 |
dafull97 |
for a reasonable price |
19:22 |
sfan5 |
dafull97: why would you not want to buy a raspberry pi from a distributor? |
19:22 |
* Jordach |
found a top hat in a clothing store on GTA5 |
19:22 |
dafull97 |
sfan5, i do.... but second hand is cheaper =D |
19:22 |
sfan5 |
I won't sell mine for sure :D |
19:23 |
sfan5 |
wow |
19:23 |
sfan5 |
a 2TB 2,5' HDD costs almost as much as a 4TB 3,5' HDD |
19:23 |
dafull97 |
wow? what? |
19:24 |
dafull97 |
ohh, haha |
19:24 |
sfan5 |
hmm |
19:24 |
sfan5 |
I have around $150 stuff lying around.. |
19:24 |
sfan5 |
+worth of |
19:25 |
dafull97 |
such as/ |
19:25 |
dafull97 |
*? |
19:25 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> oh, I also have an 17'' TFT WXGA+ TFT with LVDS interface lying around |
19:25 |
sfan5 |
* sfan5 has an 64GB HDD (IDE 3,5') and 250GB HDD (SATA 2,5') lying around |
19:26 |
sfan5 |
does anyone here have a Pebble? |
19:27 |
thexyz |
I have a 16 gb IDE 3.5, am I cool? |
19:27 |
sfan5 |
yes :P |
19:27 |
thexyz |
I've also covered a hole it says not to hover |
19:27 |
thexyz |
how's that? |
19:28 |
sfan5 |
post a pic to /r/firstworldanarchists |
19:29 |
dafull97 |
sfan5, you are in #minetest? |
19:29 |
dafull97 |
i mean #minecraft? |
19:30 |
sfan5 |
yes |
19:30 |
dafull97 |
they are brats |
19:30 |
markveidemanis |
anyone know of any simple web apps, like mtremote? |
19:31 |
dafull97 |
i have an idea for minetest |
19:33 |
Menche |
and... ? |
19:33 |
dafull97 |
make it so you can play minetest on the internet, such as a webpage |
19:34 |
Menche |
that's been discussed before. it would probably be rather difficult. |
19:34 |
dafull97 |
it which ways? |
19:34 |
Menche |
minecraft can because it's written in java, which can be run as a browser plugin. |
19:34 |
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19:35 |
dafull97 |
ohh, and minetest isnt |
19:35 |
Menche |
i'm not sure, but minetest would probably have to be rewritten or heavily modified to run in a browser. |
19:36 |
dafull97 |
yes, =/ sucks |
19:36 |
Menche |
would definitely be nice, but not really practical. |
19:36 |
dafull97 |
yes... =/ hah |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
Irrlicht has a webgl port |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
but not cpp! |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
You could make a plugin for it |
19:37 |
thexyz |
emscripten! |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
I dont think it is worth it |
19:37 |
thexyz |
hey, we'll probably get to the news |
19:38 |
Jordach |
oh it is |
19:38 |
thexyz |
with crazy shit like this |
19:38 |
thexyz |
even if it works at 5 fps on top hardware |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
I have compiled irrlicht using emscripten |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
but linking it to something takes like 10 minutes |
19:39 |
Jordach |
...what hasnt sfan5 compiled |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
I haven't compiled MinetestBot |
19:40 |
MinetestBot |
Meow, you've compiled Python... |
19:40 |
thexyz |
sfan5: does it work? |
19:40 |
sfan5 |
nope, emscripted is missing some SDL function |
19:40 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot: thats right, how did you know? |
19:40 |
sfan5 |
emscripten* |
19:40 |
sfan5 |
functions* |
19:42 |
thexyz |
wow so unfriendly |
19:42 |
Jordach |
so wow thexyz butthurt |
19:42 |
EvergreenTree |
y u so mean? :( |
19:42 |
EvergreenTree |
jk |
19:42 |
sfan5 |
y u so tree? :( |
19:43 |
* Jordach |
has a joke related to wood |
19:43 |
thexyz |
Jordach: try harder next time |
19:43 |
EvergreenTree |
because I'm a tree |
19:43 |
* Jordach |
might introduce EvergreenTree with the words: morning wood! |
19:43 |
* EvergreenTree |
barks at MinetestBot |
19:43 |
Jordach |
hah bark |
19:43 |
rubenwardy |
I haven't compiled MinetestBot |
19:44 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
19:44 |
EvergreenTree |
cya |
19:44 |
MinetestBot |
grr, EvergreenTree |
19:44 |
MinetestBot |
meow~ |
19:44 |
EvergreenTree |
rar |
19:44 |
EvergreenTree |
.rar |
19:44 |
* MinetestBot |
runs away |
19:44 |
sfan5 |
kill it with a free trail |
19:44 |
EvergreenTree |
plol |
19:44 |
sfan5 |
trial* |
19:44 |
Jordach |
trial* |
19:44 |
rubenwardy |
Wow! Minetestbot is saying stuff! he must be self-aware |
19:45 |
sfan5 |
she* |
19:45 |
* MinetestBot |
comes back |
19:45 |
* MinetestBot |
claws at rubenwardy |
19:45 |
Jordach |
naughty girtl |
19:45 |
Jordach |
girl* |
19:45 |
rubenwardy |
autocorrect girtl -> git |
19:45 |
EvergreenTree |
!sit |
19:45 |
* MinetestBot |
sits |
19:46 |
* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
19:46 |
* MinetestBot |
purrs |
19:46 |
Jordach |
:3 |
19:46 |
sfan5 |
!stand |
19:46 |
* MinetestBot |
stands up and serves Jordach a tea |
19:46 |
Menche |
!fetch |
19:46 |
Jordach |
woo tea |
19:46 |
* MinetestBot |
fetches the ball |
19:46 |
* Jordach |
cuddles MinetestBot |
19:46 |
rubenwardy |
Are the real commands, or is sfan5 using !say, !me? |
19:46 |
* MinetestBot |
purrs |
19:46 |
EvergreenTree |
rubenwardy, can you guess? :P |
19:46 |
sfan5 |
^ |
19:47 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
19:47 |
Jordach |
^ |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
^ |
19:47 |
Jordach |
^ |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
^ |
19:47 |
EvergreenTree |
carrot! |
19:47 |
rubenwardy |
^ |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
tree! |
19:47 |
Jordach |
C-C-C-C-OMBO BREAKER |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
haha |
19:47 |
Menche |
^ |
19:47 |
rubenwardy |
Bedtime children |
19:47 |
Menche |
^ |
19:47 |
EvergreenTree |
I have to hand it to you Jordach, that was the best comob breaker I've seen in a while |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
rubenwardy: it's only 20:47 |
19:47 |
EvergreenTree |
*combo |
19:47 |
* Jordach |
pisses self laughing |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
dirty Jordach |
19:48 |
Jordach |
Jordach:self_piss(laughing) |
19:48 |
* MinetestBot |
purrs |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
wear a napy |
19:48 |
Jordach |
fuck that |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
nappy |
19:48 |
Jordach |
it's an expression rubenwardy |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
I know :P |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach:piss(laughing);Jordach.piss(sfan5,laughing); |
19:48 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, Lua |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
19:48 |
Jordach |
i use fucking Lua you boron |
19:48 |
sfan5 |
Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua |
19:49 |
* MinetestBot |
meows silently |
19:49 |
Jordach |
sfan5[1]: unexpected character before |
19:49 |
rubenwardy |
you use ; to put commands on to one line |
19:49 |
rubenwardy |
s/commands/instructions |
19:49 |
EvergreenTree |
!sleep |
19:49 |
* MinetestBot |
meows and goes to sleep |
19:50 |
rubenwardy |
!s -s -t 1000 -m bye! |
19:50 |
MinetestBot |
Zzz.. |
19:51 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot: wake up! |
19:51 |
* MinetestBot |
wakes up |
19:51 |
EvergreenTree |
^ Yes I notice that you noticed that this notice is not worth noticing |
19:51 |
EvergreenTree |
rise and shine MinetestBot |
19:51 |
EvergreenTree |
after that 5 second nap |
19:51 |
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19:52 |
sfan5 |
I noticed that you noticed that you noticed that the notice is not worth noticing |
19:52 |
EvergreenTree |
/s/notice/infinity |
19:52 |
sfan5 |
stack overflow error |
19:55 |
EvergreenTree |
That was the most hilarious chat I've had in a while on this channel |
19:55 |
sfan5 |
I liked it :D |
19:55 |
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19:56 |
sfan5 |
init: goddangit, I need to add another nickname to pisg.conf |
19:56 |
sfan5 |
wait no |
19:56 |
sfan5 |
I already have this |
19:56 |
* sfan5 |
generates a new irc statistics |
19:56 |
sfan5 |
-a |
19:58 |
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19:58 |
Jordach |
OH SHITR |
19:58 |
Jordach |
-R |
19:58 |
sfan5 |
lol |
19:58 |
* Jordach |
machine guns down sfan5 with an Uzi |
19:59 |
* sfan5 |
points his /dev/urandom cannon at Jordach and fires |
19:59 |
* Jordach |
grabs a /dev/null shield |
20:00 |
sfan5 |
:-/ |
20:00 |
* sfan5 |
pulls out his black hole gun and shoots a black hole into /dev/null |
20:00 |
Jordach |
Program Exception: Swag Overflow |
20:00 |
sfan5 |
plol |
20:00 |
sfan5 |
you know what |
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Jordach |
new quote time |
20:01 |
sfan5 |
animate what just happend in blender and .. |
20:01 |
sfan5 |
dunno... would be awesome though |
20:01 |
Jordach |
mhm |
20:01 |
Jordach |
could be done within 2000 frames |
20:02 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
20:02 |
Jordach |
Minetest Forums has made 8th on chrome most visited |
20:03 |
EvergreenTree |
It's 3rd most visited forme |
20:03 |
EvergreenTree |
*for me |
20:03 |
* Jordach |
sets the channel tune to Savant - ISM (Original Mix) |
20:03 |
sfan5 |
I need 993 posts to have 3000 |
20:03 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: that .. is awesome |
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Jordach |
sfan5[1] Concat error; string not finished |
20:04 |
EvergreenTree |
Savant is awesome |
20:04 |
sfan5 |
^ |
20:04 |
* sfan5 |
opens up Spotify |
20:04 |
Jordach |
sfan5, Best of Savant playlist is made by me |
20:04 |
Jordach |
;) |
20:04 |
* sfan5 |
searches |
20:05 |
thexyz |
https://www.facebook.com/internetexplorertan |
20:05 |
Jordach |
sfan5, or search thejordach ;) |
20:05 |
EvergreenTree |
Jordach, I can think of some good artists: Virtual Riot, Nitro fun, most artists in monstercat... |
20:05 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: dat title picture, why would anyone draw something like that D: |
20:07 |
* EvergreenTree |
swings at sfan5 with an 8-bit lightsaber |
20:07 |
Jordach |
Shall we explore the web? <- I know where I wanna search :D |
20:07 |
Jordach |
</trollface> |
20:07 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at EvergreenTree |
20:07 |
thexyz |
I want to download it but the link just brings me back to facebook |
20:07 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: oh please no |
20:08 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: you mean that? https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1208666_465281160254296_746856983_n.png |
20:08 |
Calinou |
facebook photo warning |
20:08 |
thexyz |
sfan5: > www.internetexplorertan.com/download |
20:08 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, did you just place a kitten on a tree? |
20:08 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: yes |
20:08 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: oh.. |
20:08 |
* Jordach |
gets a ladder to retrieve MinetestBot |
20:09 |
Jordach |
come 'ere girl |
20:09 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, you are a mean person, that kitten is afraid of height! |
20:09 |
EvergreenTree |
someone get MinetestBot off of me |
20:09 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: who said EvergreenTree is a full grown tree? |
20:09 |
PilzAdam |
I implied it |
20:09 |
* Jordach |
carries MinetestBot down the ladder |
20:09 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: I think it is supposed to be a facebook app >https://www.facebook.com/internetexplorertan/app_1422641071287146 |
20:10 |
thexyz |
sfan5: uh, facebook's got such unfriendly interface |
20:10 |
sfan5 |
yep |
20:10 |
thexyz |
where's the app? |
20:11 |
thexyz |
I see the same page as https://www.facebook.com/internetexplorertan/ |
20:11 |
sfan5 |
I guess it's not there yet |
20:11 |
Jordach |
MinetestTan anyone |
20:11 |
EvergreenTree |
This is me -> http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/s2009/madisen_neil/IMG_0111.JPG |
20:11 |
sfan5 |
I still wonder how many money M$ paid |
20:11 |
thexyz |
alright |
20:11 |
Jordach |
EvergreenTree, i thought that was a legit pic |
20:11 |
Jordach |
:P |
20:11 |
EvergreenTree |
lol |
20:12 |
EvergreenTree |
it is, I'm a tree after all |
20:12 |
khonkhortisan |
He is a cat. He's a cat. He's got a cat. He has got a cat. He has a cat. |
20:12 |
sfan5 |
s/cat/kitten/ |
20:13 |
EvergreenTree |
Now can someone get this kitten off me? |
20:13 |
thexyz |
also http://sdrv.ms/internetexplorertan |
20:13 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: which of the 4 playlists is it? |
20:13 |
sfan5 |
EvergreenTree: Jordach already did |
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EvergreenTree |
Oh, this one isn't MinetestBot then |
20:14 |
EvergreenTree |
shoo other kitten shoo |
20:14 |
Jordach |
sfan5, Savant's Ultimate Tunes |
20:14 |
PilzAdam |
I would get it, but pilztest doesnt have ladders... |
20:14 |
Jordach |
renamed it :D |
20:15 |
init |
lol sfq |
20:15 |
init |
sfan5: * |
20:15 |
sfan5 |
^ how to not use tab |
20:16 |
EvergreenTree |
Jordach, Au5 - Blossom, Eminence - Falling Stars, Tristam & Braken - Flight |
20:16 |
EvergreenTree |
tab |
20:16 |
EvergreenTree |
^ not how to use tab |
20:16 |
PilzAdam |
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20:16 |
PilzAdam |
^ not how to use tab |
20:16 |
Jordach |
Bananonymous FTW |
20:16 |
PilzAdam |
(i.e. 4 spaces) |
20:17 |
sfan5 |
EvergreenTree: are you looking at my soundcloud stream or what? |
20:17 |
EvergreenTree |
No,just throwing some good tracks out there |
20:18 |
EvergreenTree |
Nice to see someone who likes the same music as I do though |
20:18 |
* Jordach |
wants to play Scrabble with EvergreenTree and sfan5 |
20:18 |
EvergreenTree |
^ true dat |
20:18 |
* sfan5 |
needs to prepare for an exam on friday |
20:19 |
EvergreenTree |
Scrabble is one of my favorite board games |
20:19 |
Jordach |
prepare for your examination! |
20:19 |
EvergreenTree |
I once got 35 points for just putting "ye" |
20:20 |
Jordach |
forums scrabble |
20:20 |
Jordach |
your tiles will be PM'ed to you |
20:21 |
Jordach |
anyone like RISK |
20:21 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, 68 posts |
20:22 |
EvergreenTree |
Hmm, haven't played it much |
20:24 |
EvergreenTree |
Email chess anyone? :D |
20:24 |
sfan5 |
lol |
20:24 |
sfan5 |
someone made chess in assembly for the pi |
20:24 |
EvergreenTree |
Imagine mail chess... |
20:24 |
sfan5 |
(bare-metal ofc) |
20:24 |
sfan5 |
that is how I got the idea to write a C kernel for the pi |
20:25 |
sfan5 |
NO SPOTIFY I DON'T WANT TO HEAR BF4 ADS! |
20:27 |
EvergreenTree |
M-M-M-M-MANSLAUGHTER (Let's be Friends - Manslaughter (original mix)) |
20:27 |
EvergreenTree |
Whoops, I mean (VIP mix) |
20:28 |
sfan5 |
very ontopics discussion in #minetest .... |
20:28 |
sfan5 |
-s |
20:29 |
EvergreenTree |
Yep |
20:29 |
EvergreenTree |
This is the channel for chit-chat though |
20:29 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
20:29 |
EvergreenTree |
-dev is for minetest development |
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init |
sfan5: was at droid |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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ShadowNinja |
Baaad ISP, baaad. :-( |
21:31 |
* TheLastProject |
hits ShadowNinja's ISP with a stick |
21:32 |
* init |
hits ShadowNinja with a stick and runs |
21:33 |
ShadowNinja |
!kick init /me hits back. ;-) |
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init was kicked by MinetestBot: /me hits back. ;-) |
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21:33 |
EvergreenTree |
init, .lua |
21:34 |
ShadowNinja |
init: Auto-rejoin, a good way to get banned... |
21:34 |
init |
i don't get kicked, normally |
21:34 |
init |
;) |
21:35 |
Peacock |
dumb reason to kick anyhow |
21:35 |
Peacock |
this place is soo lively we can hardly afford to lose any more warm bodies :P |
21:36 |
* init |
puts Peacock's body in the freezer |
21:37 |
Peacock |
i already have lousy circulation :P guess i shoulda thought of that before buying a touchscreen smartphone in a winter country lol |
21:41 |
* sfan5 |
cuts the cable of the freezer Peacock is in |
21:41 |
Peacock |
there are fish sticks in here |
21:46 |
Peacock |
wait, those arent fishticks... omg, what did you guys do to cornernote?! |
21:49 |
sfan5 |
D: |
21:55 |
* EvergreenTree |
is learning how to use vim |
21:56 |
Peacock |
apply on surface, use wet sponge to wipe excess |
21:57 |
Menche |
stick with it. it took me a week or two to get used to vim |
21:57 |
Menche |
now it's the only editor i use |
21:57 |
Peacock |
that's a text editor right? |
21:57 |
Menche |
...yeah |
21:57 |
Peacock |
what kind of text editor has a learning curve? lol |
21:57 |
Menche |
a text editor with features. |
21:58 |
Peacock |
gedit has features, didn't take me a week to learn lol |
21:58 |
Menche |
vim is waay more powerful and efficient. |
21:59 |
Peacock |
well its not the text editor that makes the code, it's the coder :P |
22:01 |
EvergreenTree |
Peacock, vim has commands. Lots of commands |
22:02 |
EvergreenTree |
It's a terminal application if you didn't know |
22:02 |
Peacock |
ugh, terminal apps lol |
22:02 |
Peacock |
sorry but i was using comps in the early 90s, no need to go back to that |
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TheLastProject |
EvergreenTree: VIM IS AWESOME |
22:16 |
Peacock |
lemon pledge > vim |
22:16 |
TheLastProject |
Pro-tip: Press "i" before you type, "esc" whenever you pause typing |
22:17 |
TheLastProject |
Don't stay in input mode, you'll end up doing stupid stuf f:P |
22:17 |
EvergreenTree |
well, obviously |
22:17 |
TheLastProject |
Heh, wasn't so obvious for me |
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Peacock |
jesus christ, what is it with news outlets hiding the volume button and setting it to max |
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22:23 |
EvergreenTree |
Peacock, if you don't like terminal applications, try gvim |
22:24 |
Peacock |
gtk frontend? |
22:24 |
Menche |
yeah |
22:24 |
Peacock |
worth a shot yeah |
22:25 |
Menche |
it has added menus and toolbars, but it's still recommended to use commands the same way as the console version |
22:25 |
Peacock |
i dont really get what the commands are for though |
22:25 |
Menche |
so your fingers don't have to leave the home position on the keyboard |
22:26 |
Peacock |
all i need is syntax highlighting, line numbers, bracket highlighting and decent color schemes |
22:26 |
Menche |
gvim "desert" color scheme = awesome |
22:26 |
Peacock |
i need light text on dark backgrounds otherwise = headaches lol |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
22:56 |
jojoa1997 |
hi and bye |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix tree growing and jungle sapling growth rate 9fdbc1f407 2013-11-06T15:13:51-08:00 http://git.io/n7wQoQ |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
hi all, back |
23:20 |
VanessaE |
oh I better grab that |
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