| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
hmmmmm |
things are more predictable for the map generator |
| 00:00 |
hmmmmm |
there are no lighting errors |
| 00:00 |
Mossmanikin |
Walking 62 km... that's a lot of exploring |
| 00:00 |
hmmmmm |
etc. |
| 00:00 |
Tiktalik |
minecraft's managed to get lighting errors down though, in SP at least |
| 00:00 |
Menche |
someone estimated the filesize of a fully generated map; i forget exactly but i think it was several TB |
| 00:00 |
Tiktalik |
hardly any at all! |
| 00:00 |
Peacock |
well the mapgen doesn't really do much at y > ~100 |
| 00:01 |
Tiktalik |
menche, that's just lousy compression... |
| 00:01 |
Tiktalik |
:( |
| 00:01 |
[0gb_us] |
Lousy is better than lossy. just saying. |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
i've seen lots of lighting errors in MC, worse than in MT |
| 00:01 |
Tiktalik |
or maybe not |
| 00:02 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: MC's compression isn't lossy. >_> |
| 00:02 |
Menche |
areas underneath overhangs pitch black |
| 00:02 |
Tiktalik |
that was a long time ago |
| 00:02 |
[0gb_us] |
I didn't say it was. I was saying we could have worse. |
| 00:02 |
Peacock |
so lighting and shadow are bad in both games? :( |
| 00:02 |
* Menche |
wonders what the filesize difference is between sqlite3 and leveldb |
| 00:03 |
Tiktalik |
but anyway Menche, 16200 by 32400 blocks for a big minecraft map, and it's uh, only around 10 gb |
| 00:03 |
Smelly |
Vazon |
| 00:03 |
Smelly |
whats your name |
| 00:03 |
Vazon |
yes |
| 00:03 |
Smelly |
on rem |
| 00:03 |
Tiktalik |
smaller actually |
| 00:03 |
Vazon |
vazon |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
afk |
| 00:03 |
Smelly |
now I just add you |
| 00:03 |
Smelly |
and you can join |
| 00:03 |
Vazon |
let me get on |
| 00:03 |
Peacock |
big maps are fun cuz you can have several completely different areas without em leaning against eachother (tighly placed) |
| 00:04 |
Tiktalik |
but eh, 62000 is bigger than I thought |
| 00:04 |
Tiktalik |
still though, 100000 would be better. |
| 00:04 |
Smelly |
Now you can just join the server? |
| 00:05 |
Smelly |
since I have you added |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
on my little singleplayer world, map.db (leveldb) is 4.0K and map.sqlite is 39M |
| 00:05 |
Mossmanikin |
More space also means a bigger chance to get lost |
| 00:05 |
Vazon |
yes |
| 00:05 |
Smelly |
try now then |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:05 |
Vazon |
but first you have to start the server |
| 00:05 |
Smelly |
I did |
| 00:05 |
Vazon |
o yea |
| 00:05 |
Smelly |
i have you added, try to join |
| 00:06 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: being able to get lost is good |
| 00:06 |
Tiktalik |
Menche: what's leveldb? |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
a new map saving backend |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
the latest -git version can save either in leveldb or sqlite3 |
| 00:07 |
Menche |
supposed to be more stable for larger worlds |
| 00:07 |
Menche |
(leveldb that is) |
| 00:07 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: Yes it is. But don't worry: you are able. ;) |
| 00:07 |
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| 00:16 |
* Tiktalik |
goes to finally download minetest |
| 00:16 |
Tiktalik |
So how is combat going to compare to that... other thing, where it boils down to jumping at enemies while left-clicking? |
| 00:18 |
Peacock |
combat kinda sucks |
| 00:18 |
Peacock |
better of fighting mobs cuz half the punches on a player dont register |
| 00:24 |
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| 00:25 |
Tiktalik |
hmmm |
| 00:25 |
Tiktalik |
minetest could use a little smoothing out in places, but I like it |
| 00:26 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, well, the game is far from complete yet. It's bound to be missing a few things. |
| 00:27 |
Mossmanikin |
Smoother terrain like less blocky? |
| 00:37 |
Peacock |
cant really get smoother terrain without sloped faces |
| 00:39 |
Peacock |
i do wish the BR's would give up trying to come on my server - apparently theyre banned outright on a number of online games |
| 00:39 |
Tiktalik |
no Mossmanikin |
| 00:39 |
Peacock |
(discussed it with someone who plays WoW and LoL) |
| 00:39 |
Tiktalik |
Peacock: BR's? |
| 00:39 |
Peacock |
BRazilians |
| 00:40 |
Peacock |
though BR is more slang for the troll segment of their internet population |
| 00:40 |
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| 00:40 |
Tiktalik |
ah |
| 00:40 |
Tiktalik |
anyway, the grass is kinda bad |
| 00:40 |
Tiktalik |
so are the item textures and gui |
| 00:41 |
Tiktalik |
and the physics...don't really feel like walking? |
| 00:41 |
Peacock |
minetest is not about realism (tm) :P |
| 00:41 |
Tiktalik |
it feels more like riding on something |
| 00:41 |
Tiktalik |
Peacock: 16x isn't bad :P |
| 00:41 |
Mossmanikin |
I'd love to have the ability to draw terrain like liquids with exact collision... |
| 00:42 |
Peacock |
mossmanikin im trying to figure how to draw nodeboxes by their verticles instead of edges |
| 00:42 |
Peacock |
*vertices |
| 00:42 |
Peacock |
why do i keep making that mistake? lol |
| 00:43 |
Mossmanikin |
Very interesting indeed |
| 00:43 |
Peacock |
though the MT code is absolute maze of files spun like a web lol |
| 00:44 |
Peacock |
if there was a half decent IDE for linux i might be able to make sense of it |
| 00:45 |
Mossmanikin |
Peacock: I'm quite sure it's possible to draw nodeboxes by their verticles, but have no idea what has to be hardcode.... |
| 00:46 |
Peacock |
well with vertices you could have slopes/triangles as well as cubical/rectangular |
| 00:47 |
Peacock |
the irregular shapes mod how it does it right now is to define anywhere between 16 and 32 individual nodeboxes to give the illusion of a slope |
| 00:47 |
Peacock |
i cant imagine drawing so many faces is simpler or easier on the engine than defining 6 vertices for the same effect |
| 00:48 |
Mossmanikin |
Yeah, like it (irregular), but isn't what I want, seems like a bad compromise |
| 00:50 |
Peacock |
maps like these? http://maniagaming.net/img/blockscape1.png |
| 00:52 |
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| 00:53 |
Tiktalik |
Peacock: nodes boxes can be any distance/shape? |
| 00:53 |
Tiktalik |
erm, not distance |
| 00:53 |
Tiktalik |
and not shape |
| 00:53 |
Tiktalik |
size |
| 00:53 |
Tiktalik |
and place |
| 00:53 |
Peacock |
any size, but they have to be cublice |
| 00:53 |
Peacock |
*cubicle |
| 00:54 |
Peacock |
the 6 points define where each face ends |
| 00:54 |
Mossmanikin |
Comes close, but still not smooth enough. I mean something like https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/sck919u01ror00d/dunes.png , but with exact collision |
| 00:55 |
Peacock |
well those are slopes, theyre the slopes from the liquid drawtype |
| 00:55 |
Tiktalik |
oooh |
| 00:55 |
Tiktalik |
I love the lighting |
| 00:55 |
Tiktalik |
the brights are brights |
| 00:55 |
Tiktalik |
but the darks...are daaark |
| 00:55 |
Peacock |
tried that out myself on grass, but the collision thing was a dealbreaker |
| 00:55 |
Tiktalik |
hey guys, I just had a good idea |
| 00:55 |
Tiktalik |
what if you made what's currently cobblestone, into rough stone |
| 00:55 |
Mossmanikin |
Yeah, collision is the problem |
| 00:56 |
Tiktalik |
and had rough stone and smoothed stone |
| 00:56 |
Tiktalik |
done with a chisel or something idk |
| 00:59 |
Mossmanikin |
Always found it a bit weird one has to "cook" cobblestone to get stone |
| 01:01 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: cobblestone isn't even close to what blockgames call it! |
| 01:02 |
Tiktalik |
rather, have it be |
| 01:14 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: it's a type of stone used for roads :( |
| 01:16 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: Yes, don't really make sense you get "big gravel" by digging rock... |
| 01:20 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: what if you got rough-hewn stone by digging rock, and you could get cobblestones near rivers, dig them with a shovel |
| 01:20 |
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| 01:21 |
jojoa1997 |
Hi |
| 01:22 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: Guess would be more realistic. 'fraid it wouldn't be Minecraft-like enough. But nice idea for a mod in case it's nothing for the default game :) |
| 01:23 |
Mossmanikin |
Hi jojoa1997 |
| 01:23 |
jojoa1997 |
anyone know what color minecraft lether armor is set to? |
| 01:23 |
jojoa1997 |
like the #ff00fff thingy |
| 01:24 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: It'd be functionally the same, and gravel could become cobblestone-y |
| 01:26 |
jojoa1997 |
Mossmanikin what you doing? |
| 01:27 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: I think your ideas are good, in case you'd like to mod make a mod out of it, otherwise post here: Tiktalik |
| 01:28 |
Mossmanikin |
jojoa1997: right now: thinking and chatting |
| 01:29 |
Mossmanikin |
sorry Tiktalik, meant post here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102672#p102672 |
| 01:29 |
[0gb_us] |
jojoa1997, send me a picture and I'll get the color number for you, but I've never seen it. |
| 01:31 |
Tiktalik |
mossmanikin, are you copy/pasting my name? xD |
| 01:31 |
Tiktalik |
anyway, does minetest accept texture donations? |
| 01:32 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: Exactly! Copy/paste mistake :D |
| 01:32 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: Type Tik then press the tab key on your keyboard |
| 01:32 |
Tiktalik |
Magic. |
| 01:33 |
jojoa1997 |
0gb_us i will see if i can |
| 01:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Can what, jojoa1997? |
| 01:33 |
jojoa1997 |
can send you it |
| 01:33 |
jojoa1997 |
<Mossmanikin> jojoa1997: right now: thinking and chatting |
| 01:34 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: Yes, minetest accepts texture donations |
| 01:34 |
jojoa1997 |
i was talkingabout this <Mossmanikin> Tiktalik: I think your ideas are good, in case you'd like to mod make a mod out of it, otherwise post here: Tiktalik |
| 01:34 |
Tiktalik |
Where does it keep the texture files |
| 01:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, sorry. I got way sidetracked and lost track of the conversation. |
| 01:34 |
Mossmanikin |
Yes, I'm more chatting than thinking, like always ;D |
| 01:36 |
Tiktalik |
Mossmanikin: Where are minetest's textures kept? |
| 01:36 |
jojoa1997 |
brb |
| 01:39 |
Mossmanikin |
Tiktalik: minetest (the game) has textures in .../games/minetest_game/mods and then in the different mod folders in .../textures |
| 01:40 |
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| 01:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
There are a bunch of stray kittens outside - should I attempt to catch some to throw at Calinou? |
| 01:44 |
[0gb_us] |
No, that's a waste of kittens. Pass them to me, I'm hungry. |
| 01:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
mmm tasty |
| 01:55 |
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| 01:55 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMI5YaInHdU She's so cute~ |
| 02:03 |
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| 02:10 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 02:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I don't get it, NekoGloop |
| 02:15 |
Mossmanikin |
bye, later |
| 02:33 |
xiong |
Caution: If you take in a stray kitten, it turns into a cat... who is less cute and expects royal care. |
| 02:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Actually, I prefer cats over kittens anyway. |
| 02:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Kittens are destructive and have a lot of energy. |
| 02:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Adult cats are more calm. |
| 02:34 |
[0gb_us] |
And more careful. |
| 02:34 |
xiong |
I prefer large dogs; although cats can be okay. But I'm just away from home too much and can't possibly afford a house and yard. |
| 02:35 |
[0gb_us] |
Kittens are more likely to accidentally hurt you. |
| 02:35 |
[0gb_us] |
I see. Dogs scare me personally. |
| 02:36 |
Exio4 |
dogs :D |
| 02:36 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 02:36 |
Exio4 |
we have two puppies here, they are cute |
| 02:36 |
Exio4 |
they are like 1 month old |
| 02:36 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello, VanessaE! |
| 02:36 |
[0gb_us] |
Baby animals of any type are often more trouble than their adult counterparts. |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
anyone care to see some new photos of me? :-) |
| 02:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Okay, sure. |
| 02:38 |
Exio4 |
new photos? just upload some photos from 2004 \o/ |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.558797120834851.1073741827.100001137039065&type=1&l=de1c68bfce |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
(you don't need to be on fb to see that link) |
| 02:38 |
Exio4 |
:( facebook |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
ok fine, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/extra/ |
| 02:39 |
[0gb_us] |
I think I like the pink one best. |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
go there instead. look at the last dated images among the first couple dozen |
| 02:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Facebook doesn't like me, but as long as I don't have to log in, I don't mind, as I deleted my account with them. |
| 02:39 |
Peacock |
this is me during the korean war (on the left) http://0.tqn.com/d/history1900s/1/0/3/B/1/korean28.gif |
| 02:40 |
[0gb_us] |
Back when photos were still greyscale. |
| 02:40 |
[0gb_us] |
VanessaE, did you make those dresses? |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
0gb: the silver and gold ones, yes. the others, I bought. |
| 02:41 |
[0gb_us] |
What did you make them out of? They're shiny. |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
vinyl |
| 02:42 |
* [0gb_us] |
pulls out records and fails to make clothing out of them |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
(technically, the material is a combination of PVC and Polyurethane layered onto spandex, but I didn't make the material itself) |
| 02:42 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, I didn't think you made cloth. That's more a factory-type deal. |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
hehe |
| 02:43 |
[0gb_us] |
Sewing can be fun (I used to do it a little), but I don't imagine making cloth by hand would be fun or effective. |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
only cost me about $30 in material + thread to make the gold one, the silver I already had leftover fabric on hand from a previous project, so it only cost a couple of bucks for a suitable color of thread. |
| 02:44 |
[0gb_us] |
Nice! They look like they'd cost a lot more than that in a store. |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
everyone liked the gold one, that was tonight's special outfit for a friend's event |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
in a store, the gold, silver, red, or black ones would run $40 to $80 depending on who makes them (usually the lower end of that because it's almost all chinese anymore). The pink one was around $110. |
| 02:47 |
[0gb_us] |
Wow, that's a chunk of change. |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
but I got by cheaper than most thanks to my crack sewing skillz ;) |
| 02:49 |
Peacock |
you sewed crack pouches into your dress? |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 02:50 |
[0gb_us] |
Ha ha, yeah. Those can come in handy. It's a good way to pass the time too, if you have time to pass. |
| 02:50 |
Peacock |
you can do alot of time for stashing crack :P |
| 02:50 |
[0gb_us] |
Where else would the crack pouches go? In the bonnet? |
| 02:51 |
Peacock |
hm, good question, i hate flying so i never thought about it lol |
| 02:51 |
[0gb_us] |
Flying ... what? |
| 02:51 |
[0gb_us] |
You lost me on that one. |
| 02:51 |
Peacock |
well why else would you stash crack but to smuggle it lol |
| 02:52 |
[0gb_us] |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fywRuLOoBo |
| 02:53 |
Peacock |
though judging from all the gangster movies, everything's been tried lol |
| 02:54 |
[0gb_us] |
Smuggling the loot to make that cash, first class lounging and I'm gone in a flash! |
| 02:54 |
Peacock |
even news stories about babies ODing because someone hid stuff in baby formula cans and forgot to take it out (or got the cans mixed) |
| 02:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
man, just deleted my myspace account - I'm not sure what the hell happened to it, but I didn't like it... |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
no one on myspace, thats what happened :P |
| 02:55 |
thefamilygrog66 |
not just that, the whole site has changed into a music listening type of thing, but I had little to no control over my own music there |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
though facebook is getting to be annoying to with all these game requests |
| 02:56 |
Peacock |
always check to make sure who owns your music before uploading shit, you dont want them claiming rights over it |
| 02:56 |
[0gb_us] |
Facebook wouldn't let me validate my account without entering my cell phone number (I don't have a cell phone, and if I did, Facebook wouldn't be getting my number). Facebook would let me use the site, but wouldn't let me use my chat client with their system without validating my account with that stupid cell phone system .... |
| 02:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
weirdness |
| 02:57 |
Peacock |
arent there other methods to validate an account on fb? |
| 02:57 |
thefamilygrog66 |
my music's already been published/released on vinyl (speaking of vinyl) and CD, so I'm not too worried about someone else trying to claim it |
| 02:58 |
Peacock |
yeah but who knows what myspace might claim their rights are |
| 02:58 |
Peacock |
like facebook and using your pics in adverts |
| 02:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
but at any rate, I just deleted it all from myspace, and then the pictures, and then my whole account |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
fbook is simple for me, fake location, fake name, and picture of a black guy (which im not) :P |
| 02:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nobody's gonna get rich off my songs, and if they're spread around to other folks who enjoy them, that's cool with me |
| 03:00 |
[0gb_us] |
The only non-cell phone way to validate your account any more is by sending Facebook copies of legal documents proving your identity. And since I don't use my real name online, I can't prove my identity using legal documents. |
| 03:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I only wish I'd held onto more than one copy of my LP - it's selling on ebay for $150 these days! |
| 03:01 |
[0gb_us] |
Wow! |
| 03:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
...and I gave most of my 100 copies away, d'oh! |
| 03:02 |
Peacock |
cant make more? |
| 03:04 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it was released on a UK label in 2000 |
| 03:04 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
is Canadian |
| 03:04 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
can't afford to press vinyl |
| 03:04 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 03:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
here's someone in China selling a copy for $149: http://goo.gl/IRYrXK |
| 03:06 |
Exio4 |
LP = long plays? |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
technically but usually it just means "a normal size record" versus a "45" |
| 03:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
long player, I believe - vinyl 12" record |
| 03:15 |
e1z0 |
mornin |
| 03:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
evenin |
| 03:15 |
e1z0 |
:O |
| 03:15 |
e1z0 |
it's 6:15 AM here |
| 03:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's 11:16 pm here |
| 03:16 |
e1z0 |
:O |
| 03:16 |
e1z0 |
US ? |
| 03:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's probably tomorrow there too! |
| 03:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Canada, eh |
| 03:16 |
e1z0 |
ah |
| 03:16 |
e1z0 |
here, europe |
| 03:16 |
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| 03:16 |
e1z0 |
:-p |
| 03:16 |
Exio4 |
it is 00:16 there |
| 03:16 |
Exio4 |
argentina, UTC-3 |
| 03:16 |
Exio4 |
here* |
| 03:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool |
| 03:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hey Menche |
| 03:17 |
e1z0 |
UTC+2 |
| 03:17 |
Exio4 |
obviously europe :P |
| 03:17 |
e1z0 |
EEST |
| 03:17 |
* e1z0 |
drinks beer |
| 03:17 |
Menche |
UTC-7 |
| 03:18 |
Exio4 |
e1z0: german? :P |
| 03:18 |
* Menche |
has a hard time getting that it isn't night for everyone right now |
| 03:18 |
e1z0 |
no |
| 03:18 |
e1z0 |
i'm from lithuania |
| 03:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
drinking beer at 6:15am?! |
| 03:18 |
e1z0 |
thefamilygrog66, yeah, just get up |
| 03:18 |
e1z0 |
:-D |
| 03:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
my goodness |
| 03:18 |
e1z0 |
i'm some kind of alcoholic this week |
| 03:19 |
e1z0 |
just having a lot of stress |
| 03:19 |
e1z0 |
so, drink helps in such situations |
| 03:19 |
e1z0 |
Exio4, do you know lithuania ? |
| 03:19 |
Peacock |
drinking in the morning doesn't make you an alcoholic, it makes you a pirate! :D |
| 03:19 |
e1z0 |
it's a small country between, russia, latvia, poland |
| 03:19 |
Exio4 |
e1z0: i don't |
| 03:20 |
e1z0 |
we are strong at basketball |
| 03:20 |
Exio4 |
that is, i don't know any country in europe, i never went out of argentina (and uruguay) |
| 03:20 |
Exio4 |
i only know it by name! :P |
| 03:21 |
[0gb_us] |
It makes you an alcoholic pirate. |
| 03:21 |
e1z0 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_national_basketball_team |
| 03:21 |
e1z0 |
why me are alcoholic pirate ? |
| 03:21 |
e1z0 |
i'm just alcoholic |
| 03:22 |
e1z0 |
i'm not making a beer or some king of alcohol |
| 03:22 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, well, if you're not downloading things illegally or stealling on the high seas, you're probably not a pirate. |
| 03:22 |
Tiktalik |
minetest needs more gravity |
| 03:22 |
Tiktalik |
and also more physics |
| 03:22 |
Menche |
gravity can be configured |
| 03:22 |
Peacock |
drinking in the morning = like pirates :P |
| 03:22 |
Peacock |
not actually pirating stuff |
| 03:23 |
[0gb_us] |
Minetest gravity and other physics are fine as they are. |
| 03:23 |
e1z0 |
ah, thanks for information |
| 03:23 |
Peacock |
though im used to drinking in the morning, worked nightshift for many years lol |
| 03:23 |
Menche |
play with the "movement_gravity" setting in minetest.conf. default is 9.81 |
| 03:23 |
ShadowNinja |
Tiktalik: There..^ |
| 03:23 |
e1z0 |
i'm forgetting the english language, coz i don't use it frequently these days |
| 03:23 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: no, falling is too slow after jumping |
| 03:24 |
Tiktalik |
too floaty |
| 03:24 |
Menche |
i really prefer the simpler physics before the new system was added |
| 03:24 |
[0gb_us] |
That's fine. It doesn't need to be realistic. |
| 03:24 |
Tiktalik |
it feels bad though |
| 03:24 |
Tiktalik |
that's the problem |
| 03:24 |
[0gb_us] |
The simpler system was better in most ways, I agree Menche. |
| 03:25 |
[0gb_us] |
It doesn't feel bad ... Does it feel bad in Mario when you stay airbore too long? No. Same here. |
| 03:25 |
[0gb_us] |
*airborne |
| 03:25 |
Menche |
the old system was easier to control |
| 03:25 |
e1z0 |
everything is ok with minetest except some times it accours locked in a area then connecting to server |
| 03:25 |
e1z0 |
do not know how to explain in english |
| 03:25 |
Menche |
you can only get so realistic in a cube world before it gets annoying |
| 03:25 |
[0gb_us] |
No worries, e1z0. |
| 03:26 |
[0gb_us] |
Cubes plus realism ... *shakes head in confusion at the very thought* |
| 03:26 |
[0gb_us] |
Confusion isn't the right word, but I'm at a loss for words. |
| 03:27 |
Menche |
lets make it so realisic you have to keep your balance or you'll fall over! with 4 keys and a mouse! |
| 03:27 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: it's at an awkward point where it feels like you should be going higher for how gravity goes |
| 03:27 |
e1z0 |
i'm in progress with minecraft fork |
| 03:27 |
[0gb_us] |
I haven't run accross that myself on default settings. Well, default physics settings, anyway. |
| 03:27 |
e1z0 |
everything works, with the latest git commits |
| 03:28 |
[0gb_us] |
Nice! |
| 03:28 |
[0gb_us] |
What will your fork change? |
| 03:28 |
e1z0 |
don't know how to exactly write copyright messages |
| 03:28 |
e1z0 |
i'm changing it's name |
| 03:29 |
e1z0 |
[0gb_us], fork will it stabilize, and will be translated in my country language |
| 03:29 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, nice! What language is that? |
| 03:29 |
e1z0 |
lithuanian, lol |
| 03:29 |
e1z0 |
:-) |
| 03:29 |
Tiktalik |
anyway [0gb_us], Minetest feels like it can't decide if you should be up or down |
| 03:29 |
Tiktalik |
as far as jumping goes |
| 03:30 |
Tiktalik |
also, jumping up hills works weirdly |
| 03:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you know those mobs that are like, really big mobs? |
| 03:30 |
[0gb_us] |
Tiktalik, it doesn't feel that way to me ... I don't know about other people though. |
| 03:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
this is what I'm dealing with on my server right now: http://imageshack.us/a/img834/3112/zsce.png |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
i like minetest's physics better than minecraft |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
climbing hills is much smoother |
| 03:30 |
Tiktalik |
also [0gb_us], compare it to Minecraft jumping |
| 03:30 |
e1z0 |
also i'm including some mods |
| 03:31 |
e1z0 |
i like this project |
| 03:31 |
Tiktalik |
Menche: it feels like you go...boingboingboingboingboing, like the instant you hit it a tiny bit you go bounding up |
| 03:31 |
Menche |
you can't jump as far in minecraft; it feels slower |
| 03:31 |
Menche |
and less responsive |
| 03:31 |
e1z0 |
then i will learn the source code, i will help with fixes too |
| 03:31 |
e1z0 |
it needs a lot of contribution, to be a stable and good game |
| 03:31 |
e1z0 |
;-) |
| 03:32 |
Menche |
Tiktalik: i prefer it this way. but you can fiddle with the physics settings if you don't like it |
| 03:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
gotta hide in treetops to get away from BIG STEVE: http://imageshack.us/a/img194/3866/30ov.png |
| 03:32 |
[0gb_us] |
If you compare it to our old jump mechanics, those were better, but our new ones are still fine. I forget what Minecraft jumping is like though, I only played Minecraft twice and it was years ago. |
| 03:32 |
[0gb_us] |
*months, not years |
| 03:32 |
Menche |
imo minecraft's physics feel less responsive and slower |
| 03:33 |
Menche |
flying is really bad |
| 03:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Minecraft was too laggy for me to notice any non-responsiveness. |
| 03:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm always opening my damn inventory in minecraft whenever I wanna go faster |
| 03:33 |
Menche |
thefamilygrog66: LOL me too |
| 03:34 |
e1z0 |
minecraft is like the notepad opening 1TB of text file |
| 03:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Why "e"? "Inventory doesn't start with "e". |
| 03:34 |
Tiktalik |
In minecraft |
| 03:34 |
Tiktalik |
You jump higher |
| 03:34 |
Tiktalik |
But fall faster |
| 03:34 |
Tiktalik |
Not much higher, just a little |
| 03:34 |
[0gb_us] |
But "forward" starts with "w", so it's all good. |
| 03:34 |
e1z0 |
lol |
| 03:35 |
Menche |
inertia is annoying. when you're flying and going fast, it's impossible to get your player into a certain position because it keeps moving after you let off the keys |
| 03:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
WASD is pretty standard |
| 03:35 |
Menche |
in MC |
| 03:35 |
Tiktalik |
Yeah Menche, I think Minetest could use a little more walking inertia |
| 03:35 |
[0gb_us] |
True. Inertia was being a pain in some other game I played the other day, but I forget which. |
| 03:35 |
Tiktalik |
But creative flying...no |
| 03:35 |
Tiktalik |
no inertia |
| 03:36 |
[0gb_us] |
Tiktalik, Menche is saying no/little inertia is better, not more. |
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| 03:36 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 03:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
can you run in minecraft? |
| 03:36 |
Tiktalik |
yes |
| 03:36 |
Menche |
thefamilygrog66: yeah, but it's not as good |
| 03:36 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, but running mechanics are ... different to say the least. |
| 03:36 |
Menche |
double-tap 'w' for a very minor speed increase that turns of when you hit something |
| 03:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I didn't think it was as cool |
| 03:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
could never tell, cause my inventory kept opening |
| 03:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 03:37 |
Menche |
been playing minetest-classic lately; the only inertia i notice was when you're using fast-move on the ground, and then it's very minimal |
| 03:37 |
Menche |
easy to control your player |
| 03:38 |
[0gb_us] |
My "escape" key menu kept opening, even when not touching the keyboard. |
| 03:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what kinda sounds should giant Steve make? |
| 03:39 |
[0gb_us] |
"So zetta slow!" |
| 03:39 |
Menche |
[0gb_us], in minecraft classic? |
| 03:39 |
Menche |
i've found that to be extremely buggy lately |
| 03:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Menche, in current (or current a few months ago) Minecraft. |
| 03:40 |
Menche |
also, in Minecraft my 'w' key kept sticking. usually when i was fighting a creeper. |
| 03:40 |
[0gb_us] |
My siblings have had the "w" key issue on several occasions. They thought it was the keyboard at first, but it isn't; it's the game. |
| 03:41 |
[0gb_us] |
They play Minecraft, I play Minetest. |
| 03:41 |
kahrl |
i think that was a lwjgl issue that was fixed some months ago |
| 03:41 |
Menche |
i've heard that the lwjgl library was updated since i played last, fixing that. |
| 03:41 |
Tiktalik |
sticky keys means you need different lwjgl |
| 03:41 |
Tiktalik |
anyway Menche: I like the way physics works |
| 03:41 |
Tiktalik |
it just needs to go through its business |
| 03:41 |
Tiktalik |
a little faster |
| 03:42 |
Tiktalik |
also, sprinting in minecraft isn't that small of a speedboost... |
| 03:42 |
Tiktalik |
even though it's not big it still breaks combat |
| 03:42 |
Tiktalik |
because the monsters weren't retuned for it |
| 03:43 |
kahrl |
well they added baby zombies and pigmen |
| 03:43 |
Menche |
and decapitated heads |
| 03:43 |
Tiktalik |
pigmen were in since alpha |
| 03:44 |
Tiktalik |
and baby zombies were just shittily done |
| 03:44 |
Tiktalik |
protip: nothing mojang's done lately that's combat-related is good |
| 03:44 |
kahrl |
*baby zombie pigmen |
| 03:44 |
kahrl |
I agree :P |
| 03:44 |
Tiktalik |
oh |
| 03:44 |
Tiktalik |
baby zombie pigmen? this is worse than I thought |
| 03:44 |
Menche |
i stopped following minecraft updates a while ago |
| 03:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
horsies |
| 03:45 |
Exio4 |
minecraft updates are cute |
| 03:45 |
Menche |
a lot of new additions were getting to arbitrary for my taste |
| 03:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
and the locals talk now |
| 03:45 |
Menche |
*too |
| 03:45 |
Tiktalik |
villagers don't talk |
| 03:45 |
Tiktalik |
they say "hmm" |
| 03:45 |
Tiktalik |
and "hmmmm" |
| 03:45 |
Exio4 |
now they are switching to a "minecraft:nodename" based way for blocks or w/e |
| 03:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
well, they make noises now |
| 03:45 |
Tiktalik |
and "hmm" in a slightly lower voice |
| 03:45 |
Tiktalik |
deeper that is |
| 03:45 |
Menche |
after they switched to split textures |
| 03:46 |
Tiktalik |
so if you go to a big village |
| 03:46 |
Tiktalik |
hmmm |
| 03:46 |
Tiktalik |
HMM |
| 03:46 |
Tiktalik |
HMMM |
| 03:46 |
Exio4 |
and there is an amplified mapgen that is actually normal with highers hills/oceans |
| 03:46 |
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| 03:46 |
Menche |
LOL |
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| 03:46 |
Exio4 |
*coughs*indev*coughs*proller*coughs* |
| 03:46 |
Tiktalik |
now if only ShadowBot could do that to the villagers |
| 03:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm pretty sure the villagers are modeled after Squidward from Spongebob |
| 03:46 |
Menche |
ShadowBot doesn't like the sound of minecraft villages |
| 03:46 |
Menche |
thefamilygrog66, i thought that too |
| 03:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hmmmmm |
| 03:47 |
thefamilygrog66 |
HMM |
| 03:47 |
kahrl |
also why do they keep talking about a minetest dev? |
| 03:47 |
Menche |
he's probably been pinged like 5 times in the last minute |
| 03:47 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 03:48 |
Tiktalik |
anyway |
| 03:48 |
Exio4 |
good night |
| 03:48 |
Tiktalik |
minetest's physics are fine |
| 03:48 |
Tiktalik |
but they're too slow |
| 03:48 |
[0gb_us] |
"indev" is a map generating algorythm. |
| 03:48 |
Tiktalik |
in how they act |
| 03:48 |
Tiktalik |
it should be the same, but...faster |
| 03:48 |
Exio4 |
OldCoder: > mapgen |
| 03:48 |
Exio4 |
[0gb_us]: * |
| 03:48 |
Exio4 |
OldCoder: sowwy :P |
| 03:48 |
[0gb_us] |
That's what I said .... |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
and Menche, I think walking should have a tiny bit more inertia |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
but creative mode |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
no inertia |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
blasts? |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
tons of it |
| 03:49 |
[0gb_us] |
Creative mode IS regular mode with a different menu. |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
so yes, being shot out of a cannon, or blown away by an explosion will in fact |
| 03:49 |
Tiktalik |
make you flyyyy |
| 03:50 |
Menche |
and you can break any node in like 0.5 seconds |
| 03:50 |
Menche |
there's some group defined in the API to allow for explosions; not sure what it does, if anything |
| 03:50 |
[0gb_us] |
It lets you chain explosions. |
| 03:50 |
Tiktalik |
yeah that's one thing that annoys me about minecraft explosions |
| 03:50 |
Tiktalik |
powerful, but NO PUSHFORCE |
| 03:51 |
[0gb_us] |
Push force seems like more of a hassle than a good thing. |
| 03:51 |
[0gb_us] |
You are working on something, then someone blows you up and blows you away. Lame. |
| 03:52 |
Menche |
would be nice if flowing water had push force |
| 03:52 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: An explosion should be able to send things flying more than 3-4 blocks. |
| 03:52 |
Tiktalik |
and by things |
| 03:52 |
Tiktalik |
I mean players |
| 03:52 |
Tiktalik |
It's not like explosions are spontaneous. |
| 03:52 |
Menche |
at least for items |
| 03:52 |
Menche |
could automate more things, build mob traps, etc. |
| 03:52 |
[0gb_us] |
Yes, then other players send YOU flying. I don't like that. |
| 03:53 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: By sneaking behind you, placing a TNT block and detonating it, without you noticing? |
| 03:53 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
is killing gigantic Steve mobs |
| 03:53 |
Menche |
don't think that would be any worse than another player killing you and sending you back to spawn |
| 03:53 |
Tiktalik |
If you don't notice, you'll be too dead to care |
| 03:53 |
[0gb_us] |
The TNT block could be hidden, and it could be a trap. |
| 03:53 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 03:54 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 03:54 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: In which case, if you survive, you thouroughly deserve what you get, and being pushed around 10 blocks won't be anything more than an INCONVENIENCE. |
| 03:54 |
Tiktalik |
Certainly less bothersome than cleaning up the blast crater. |
| 03:54 |
kahrl |
minecraft explosions have no pushforce? watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtmJernGJc at 27:40 |
| 03:54 |
[0gb_us] |
I don't think people "deserve" what trolls dish out. We shouldn't have to be on guard all the time. |
| 03:55 |
Menche |
when i'm in MC, getting pushed around is the least of my worries when i see a creeper outside my window |
| 03:55 |
[0gb_us] |
Explosions in general are a bad idea. |
| 03:55 |
Menche |
i typically disable fire too |
| 03:55 |
Menche |
adds more destruction than fun |
| 03:55 |
[0gb_us] |
i'm going to use a less corrosive version of fire myself. |
| 03:56 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: If you have problems with people planting traps for you, then you should play on a server where only trusted players can use tnt |
| 03:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I've disabled fire, though the dungeon masters still manage to burn the crap outta things |
| 03:56 |
Tiktalik |
also, in minecraft, fire sucks now |
| 03:56 |
Tiktalik |
they nerfed it, it's so slow |
| 03:56 |
[0gb_us] |
My fire won't spread and eat whole forests. Plus, you know, land claims will block it. |
| 03:56 |
Menche |
i remember when occasionally tree blocks would burn perpetually in MC |
| 03:56 |
Menche |
i thought that was kinda cool really |
| 03:56 |
Tiktalik |
[0gb_us]: In minecraft, you're lucky to get a single tree now |
| 03:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Good. |
| 03:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Fire destroying all your hard work is NOT my idea of "fun". |
| 03:57 |
Menche |
in minetest you can have different gamemodes to suit different purposes. all that stuff would be great for a warfare oriented game mode. |
| 03:58 |
[0gb_us] |
That sounds good to me. Just don't put it in all game modes. |
| 03:58 |
Menche |
or a gamemode that focuses more on actual survival than building |
| 03:58 |
Tiktalik |
kahrl: vertically they have lots, horizontally not lots |
| 03:58 |
Menche |
currently there isn't much to survive in minetest. just falling and drowning. |
| 03:58 |
kahrl |
true |
| 03:59 |
[0gb_us] |
Drowning is too much. |
| 03:59 |
kahrl |
have to use cannons for that |
| 03:59 |
Tiktalik |
vertically, a lot of tnt gets you really high |
| 03:59 |
Tiktalik |
but horizontally, almost nothing |
| 03:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
don't forget giants, Menche... |
| 04:00 |
kahrl |
did they nerf it horizontally? |
| 04:00 |
* Menche |
thinks that we're bickering about what's appropriate and what's not because minetest_game doesn't have a very definite direction/goal |
| 04:00 |
Tiktalik |
kahrl: I'm talking about players, you can't really toss them out of a cannon well |
| 04:00 |
Tiktalik |
I should test things, but you have to be sprintjumping in the air to get pushed much at all by a creeper |
| 04:01 |
[0gb_us] |
I think even with a goal, we'd bicker. Plus, the blast thing seems like an engine deal. If in the game, we're all stuck with it. |
| 04:01 |
Menche |
can always make a different game mode if it's only in lua |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
really, im surprised there aren't more popular alternative game modes. |
| 04:02 |
Tiktalik |
Anyway Menche, have you played Cave Story |
| 04:02 |
[0gb_us] |
True, but with the blast issue, if it's not configurable, Lua won't help. |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
no |
| 04:03 |
[0gb_us] |
Menche, I'm working on one. I don't know if it will be a hit, but it will be big and have a lot of content. Many people seem to want that. |
| 04:03 |
Tiktalik |
okay |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
im working on one (slowly). |
| 04:03 |
Tiktalik |
Anyway Menche: I like physics to be a bit floaty, and you to jump fairly well, but I also like them to be fast |
| 04:03 |
e1z0 |
let's drink some beer! |
| 04:03 |
e1z0 |
;-) |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
Tiktalik: you see the physics settings in the example conf file? |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
you can tweak a lot of the physics stuff |
| 04:05 |
Menche |
overall gravity, fall rate, acceleration rate, etc. |
| 04:05 |
Tiktalik |
hm, ok |
| 04:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I liked how fast move interacted with water back in 0.4.4 or so |
| 04:05 |
Tiktalik |
fall rate would be what I'm looking for then Menche :) |
| 04:05 |
Tiktalik |
i think |
| 04:05 |
Tiktalik |
if it's how fast you get to falling? |
| 04:05 |
kahrl |
if i was working on physics i'd try to fix the phantom collisions and make jumping up a 3 high staircase smoother |
| 04:05 |
Menche |
thefamilygrog66: you mean how you were slowed down in water even when sprinting? |
| 04:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
no, after that Menche, so that you would fly out of the water |
| 04:06 |
Tiktalik |
heh, sprinting in water should slow you down more |
| 04:06 |
[0gb_us] |
I liked how water could break your fall. Now you need to define dedicated nodes for that .... |
| 04:06 |
Menche |
if you don't have aux1_descends set, sprinting in water and climbable nodes like ladders is absolutely ridiculous |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
[0gb_us]: YES. absolutely. I hate how you can take fall damage under water. |
| 04:07 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
kept dying doing down ladders... |
| 04:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
*going |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
you can climb down ladders faster than you freefall. |
| 04:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
craziness |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
i think physics should be reset to the way it was before. |
| 04:08 |
Menche |
i tried reverting the corresponding commits, with no luck. |
| 04:08 |
[0gb_us] |
I think it should be togleable. Make it stay as it currently is by default, but allow a conf option to enable the older and better physics. |
| 04:08 |
Menche |
a few people like the new way so there should be toggleable... [0gb_us] beat me to that |
| 04:09 |
Menche |
although i'd prefer it to be the old way by default |
| 04:12 |
[0gb_us] |
THere are a lot of things that should be default but aren't, so I'd be happy just to have the option. |
| 04:12 |
[0gb_us] |
Like jungles and dungeons. |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
i'm actually surprised they put those back in. I had almost lost hope. |
| 04:13 |
[0gb_us] |
I had lost hope. |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
now, the old mobs... |
| 04:14 |
[0gb_us] |
When the jungle grass was added back ouside of jungles, I prety much though jungles would never return. |
| 04:14 |
Menche |
the days when you had to illuminate all the caves around your house to prevent dungeon masters from spawning and blasting your house to pieces from below... |
| 04:14 |
[0gb_us] |
The dungeon master needs to be "Nerfed". |
| 04:14 |
Menche |
yeah. it shouldn't be able to target through solid nodes. |
| 04:14 |
[0gb_us] |
Blasting away your house is not cool. |
| 04:15 |
Menche |
and a switch to turn off destroying nodes at all |
| 04:15 |
[0gb_us] |
Exactly. |
| 04:15 |
[0gb_us] |
Maybe allow starting fires with flammable nodes as an option, but not required. |
| 04:15 |
Menche |
i like the firearms mod, but i usually disable the section that allows explosives to destroy nodes. |
| 04:16 |
Menche |
more options are usually fine, but we don't want a 500 MB example conf file. |
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[0gb_us] |
True enough. |
| 04:17 |
* [0gb_us] |
's hadr drive is only 256 MiB, it can't hold that conf file |
| 04:17 |
Menche |
maybe a setting like "dm_fireball_damage = node, player, fire" where you can add/remove flags |
| 04:17 |
Menche |
would cut down on the options needed for that level of flexibility |
| 04:18 |
[0gb_us] |
Like how the map generator flags are. |
| 04:18 |
Menche |
yeah. |
| 04:19 |
[0gb_us] |
Did you see the commit to add a conf file interpreter for use by plugins to have their own separate conf file? |
| 04:19 |
Menche |
no |
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thefamilygrog66 |
DM's burn water and clouds on my server - bizarre |
| 04:19 |
Menche |
i usually just use minetest.get_setting_bool (or whatever that function is called) when i want to make something configurable in a mod. |
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[0gb_us] |
I was actually going to try something like that in Lua, but the C++ one should be faster. |
| 04:20 |
Menche |
other mods use a settings.lua file that's loaded with dofile(). |
| 04:20 |
Menche |
i find it more convenient to have all configuration in one place though. |
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[0gb_us] |
Flammable water? That reminds me of burning lava, which is for when regular lava is not enough. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Yep, they burn through everything, literally |
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thefamilygrog66 |
keeps me on my toes |
| 04:21 |
Menche |
mobf? |
| 04:21 |
thefamilygrog66 |
simple |
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Menche |
celeron55's dungeon crawler game's dungeon masters were scary. They fired tons of fireballs rapid-fire at a *crazy* rate. |
| 04:22 |
Menche |
iirc they were based on mobf. |
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[0gb_us] |
Yeah, I think they were. |
| 04:22 |
Menche |
ofc they didn't always notice you, like simple mobs monsters :P |
| 04:23 |
Menche |
when they did you got fireball-machine-gunned though. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
crazy, the DMs in simple mobs are scary enough |
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* thefamilygrog66 |
is hitting the hay |
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thefamilygrog66 |
night folks |
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Menche |
are the oerkki monsters in any mob mods invisible in the dark like they used to be? i liked that. |
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[0gb_us] |
G'night. |
| 04:24 |
Menche |
night |
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Menche |
added a bit of a thrill to mining in the dark. |
| 04:26 |
Menche |
my very first post on the forums was asking about the oerkkis becoming invisible :) |
| 04:27 |
[0gb_us] |
I think my very first post was about connecting to servers; I couldn't do it. It turns out the Ubuntu repository Minetest is WAY out of date. |
| 04:28 |
Menche |
i forget when exactly i started playing; i know it was before ladders and apple trees were added. i remember those being new. |
| 04:29 |
* Menche |
misses the old Kray's server |
| 04:29 |
* [0gb_us] |
misses the old Globis world |
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Miner_48er |
!up 75.131.40.131 30000 |
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MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down |
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e1z0 |
!up eofnet.lt:30000 |
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MinetestBot |
e1z0: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' |
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e1z0 |
!up eofnet.lt 0000 |
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MinetestBot |
eofnet.lt:0 seems to be down |
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e1z0 |
!up eofnet.lt 30000 |
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e1z0 |
lol |
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MinetestBot |
eofnet.lt:30000 seems to be down |
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[0gb_us] |
End of file net? |
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e1z0 |
yeah |
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e1z0 |
end of line |
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e1z0 |
lol |
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[0gb_us] |
Interesting name, |
| 05:01 |
[0gb_us] |
. |
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e1z0 |
yeah |
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e1z0 |
!up eofnet.lt 30000 |
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e1z0 |
\o/ |
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Rhy5 |
Hello hello hello hello! |
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[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 07:11 |
Rhy5 |
Hi there! |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
Oh Hi Ogb! |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
Hows it going? |
| 07:12 |
[0gb_us] |
Pretty good. How's it going for you? |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
Fine thanks. |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
But, I can't actually believe I have started MODDING! |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
I am making a Bear Grylls Mod, Enchanting Mod, Capes Mod... |
| 07:13 |
[0gb_us] |
Nice! |
| 07:13 |
Rhy5 |
Capes mod is becoming most successful, thanks to Jordach. |
| 07:13 |
Rhy5 |
Infact... |
| 07:13 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, Jordach seems to like capes. |
| 07:13 |
Rhy5 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7160 |
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Rhy5 |
Have to go lol bye! |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Friday the 13th and happy Programmers' Day! :-D |
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* Calinou |
hands JamesTait a {good code} ticket, redeem at your nearest Programmer |
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JamesTait |
:) |
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jojoa1997 |
Hello |
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jojoa1997 |
Does github show how many download have been done? |
| 11:15 |
e1z0 |
-1 |
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jojoa1997 |
.? |
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jojoa1997 |
Gtg cya |
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* sfan5 |
puts Rainbow Dash on john_minetest's head |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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* john_minetest |
puts Tootsie Flute on sfan5's head |
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* sfan5 |
puts Derpy Hooves on john_minetest's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts Mr. Greenhooves on sfan5's head |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on john_minetest's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts a puppy on sfan5's head |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at john_minetest |
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* john_minetest |
catches kitten, transforms it into grenade, counts "21, 22, 23" and throws it back to sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
puts the grenade in a .tar file and throws it at john_minetest |
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* john_minetest |
transforms the compressed grenade into compressed air and blows sfan5 away. |
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sfan5 |
:( |
| 11:38 |
sfan5 |
you win |
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proller |
use hardcore_mese_tnt!! |
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* john_minetest |
writes "killall minetest" |
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sfan5 |
!op |
| 12:20 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soonâ„¢ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Task of the Day: Put ponies on john_minetest! |
| 12:20 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soonâ„¢ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Task of the Day: Put ponies on john_minetest's head! |
| 12:20 |
sfan5 |
!deop |
| 12:23 |
KikaRz |
Task of the Day? Where is the Hamburguer of the day? |
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* Calinou |
puts a pony on john_minetest's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on Calinou's head |
| 12:25 |
KikaRz |
Or that ! |
| 12:25 |
KikaRz |
TAKE THAT SANDWITCHE! |
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* KikaRz |
puts a pony on john_minetest's head. |
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puts Calinou on john_minetest's head |
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Exio4 |
:D |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 13:11 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: pony* |
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STHGOM |
hello |
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STHGOM |
good-bye |
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GNADev|zRokh |
lol :D |
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STHGOM |
:F |
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STHGOM |
:D |
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* GNADev|zRokh |
is getting bit by flies on his leg... it hurts him a lot |
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PilzAdam |
double post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110280#p110280 |
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sfan5 |
!title |
| 13:18 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Mods Idea Adventure Test! (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums |
| 13:18 |
Exio4 |
chipa :D |
| 13:19 |
PilzAdam |
I dont think this thread is appropriate for a forum where kids are arround: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110268#p110268 |
| 13:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
!title |
| 13:19 |
sfan5 |
!title |
| 13:19 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Forum message — Minetest Forums |
| 13:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
tell me why? |
| 13:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Y U NO TALK TO ME?! |
| 13:20 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: I agree |
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sfan5 |
!unignore GNADev|zRokh |
| 13:20 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: 'GNADev|zRokh' removed from ignore list. |
| 13:20 |
sfan5 |
I don't remember putting you on the ignore list |
| 13:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh... ok, thanks |
| 13:20 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, have you fixed ignore? (i.e. can I use it again) |
| 13:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
!title |
| 13:20 |
MinetestBot |
GNADev|zRokh: Forum message — Minetest Forums |
| 13:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yay :D |
| 13:20 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: dunno, try it :P |
| 13:20 |
PilzAdam |
!ignore GNADev|zRokh |
| 13:21 |
PilzAdam |
:-/ |
| 13:21 |
sfan5 |
:-\ |
| 13:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:/ |
| 13:21 |
PilzAdam |
:-< |
| 13:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
>:O |
| 13:21 |
sfan5 |
:-> |
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* Exio4 |
kills GNADev|zRokh in fire |
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* GNADev|zRokh |
is downloading Counter-Strike and will play it on Trisquel-Mini 6.0 |
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Exio4 |
counter strike 1.6? czero? source? |
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* GNADev|zRokh |
revives and f**ks Exio4 to death |
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GNADev|zRokh |
1.6 |
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GNADev|zRokh |
:P |
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GNADev|zRokh |
how do you like them ballz? |
| 13:22 |
sfan5 |
eh |
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GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4, know what my favourite cartoon is? |
| 13:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Dragon Balls |
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GNADev|zRokh |
:P |
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Exio4 |
the fuck |
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GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4, Y U NO LIKE DRAGON BALLS? |
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pitriss |
somebody will be banned here soon I guess.. |
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GNADev|zRokh |
why? |
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GNADev|zRokh |
what did i do wrong? |
| 13:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
wasnt there a cartoon called Dragon Balls? |
| 13:25 |
PilzAdam |
GNADev|zRokh, you pretty much violate every rule for this channel |
| 13:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
really? |
| 13:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels |
| 13:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:P |
| 13:26 |
pitriss |
GNADev|zRokh: I don't think that spam is "respecting" others.. |
| 13:26 |
PilzAdam |
you are neither patient nor do you respect others |
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Exio4 |
fuck you PilzAdam |
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Exio4 |
is that right? |
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GNADev|zRokh |
what? |
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* GNADev|zRokh |
is installing Counter-Strike :P |
| 13:27 |
PilzAdam |
also you are constantly offtopic |
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PilzAdam |
offtopic is allowed in this channel, but not too much and not if you are the only one being offtopic |
| 13:28 |
GNADev|zRokh |
no, im just using IRC Freenode#minetest as another Twitter :D |
| 13:28 |
PilzAdam |
oh |
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PilzAdam |
in this case... |
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GNADev|zRokh |
ijk |
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PilzAdam |
!op |
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GNADev|zRokh was kicked by PilzAdam: GNADev|zRokh |
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PilzAdam |
!deop |
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pitriss |
nice shot:) |
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sfan5 |
"*!*@*.elisa.ee" ban a whole ISP for one person ✔ |
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PilzAdam |
xchat did that :-/ |
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Calinou |
happened to me once |
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Calinou |
but only for a few days |
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PilzAdam |
!op |
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PilzAdam |
!deop |
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Exio4 |
use a proper irc client with proper scripts |
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* Exio4 |
installs weechat with chanop.py on PilzAdam's kubuntu |
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KikaRz |
lol |
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Exio4 |
yes |
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NekoGloop |
soon(tm) |
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pgrytdal |
Hello |
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PilzAdam |
hello pgrytdal |
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jojoa1997 |
Hi |
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Exio4 |
PilzAdam: weechat 0.4.2-rc1 :P |
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Exio4 |
my client |
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PilzAdam |
Exio4, thats the slowest CTCP response I have ever seen :-p |
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sfan5 |
random video of the sky tower on redcrab's server: http://youtu.be/ehyS2dLpbbU |
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yyamiyyugi |
good luck trying to build that on minecraft XD |
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VanessaE |
9km high? O.O |
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VanessaE |
nope, guess not |
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yyamiyyugi |
I get that people need to play, i just wouldn't want to see this community turn into what minecraft calls a community, so far the community is pretty good here as far as i have seen |
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yyamiyyugi |
lol, i'm not banned from #minecraft, but I am from all the bukkit channels |
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VanessaE |
well if y'all would stop trolling them :P |
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yyamiyyugi |
well, I wasn't trolling :p |
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Calinou |
bukkit channels may disallow webchat/mibbit |
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yyamiyyugi |
they called me a theif and i didn't take too kindly to that |
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yyamiyyugi |
so i got mad, they got mad, i got banned |
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curls up in VanessaE's lap |
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* Calinou |
pets NekoGloop |
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Calinou |
ninja'd |
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* NekoGloop |
purrs :3 |
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Calinou |
yyamiyyugi: ignore the trolls |
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yyamiyyugi |
lol, if only it were the trolls, it was a developer :p |
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NekoGloop |
Dinnerbone? :P |
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Exio4 |
PilzAdam, john_minetest, ctcps are blocked there :P |
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yyamiyyugi |
no, mbaxter |
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NekoGloop |
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they have a ban on *minetest*@* |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
cute |
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sfan5 |
NekoGloop: they do |
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NekoGloop |
They also have me banned. |
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yyamiyyugi |
lol |
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yyamiyyugi |
y tey ban!?!?!? |
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VanessaE |
ask Calinou :P |
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NekoGloop |
because a guy called "Dinnerbone" is in charge. |
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yyamiyyugi |
lol |
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NekoGloop |
not only is he making minecraft into a piece of shit, but he's reserving his own little hellhole in the IRC channel. |
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yyamiyyugi |
i don't think i have ever been on #minecraft |
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nore |
hi all |
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Miner_48er |
hi |
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NekoGloop |
Sounds like PA if he spoke his mind |
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sfan5 |
<MinetestBot> GIT: pilcrowjesusgmail.com commited [...] |
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sfan5 |
plol |
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VanessaE |
well he contributed the change after all |
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* Jordach |
wonders when capes gets merged |
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Peacock |
capes? very gay, tape miss Brahms! (http://goo.gl/NMa3Ux) |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 15:29 |
Peacock |
all that's missing to be superman is a mod to wear your underwear above the pants :P |
| 15:29 |
* Jordach |
has A3 paper |
| 15:30 |
Peacock |
A3? why y no A1?! |
| 15:33 |
NekoGloop |
So, PilzAdam, are you going to actually help me fix glooptest causing this supposed "worldgen slowdown," or just sit there bitching at me? |
| 15:34 |
Peacock |
i guess i missed the bitching part :P |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
ianno it took me 3 hours to get this son-of-a-bitch new flow router to work in 6D http://s12.postimg.org/oebc8nq8t/screenshot_401896895.png |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 15:35 |
NekoGloop |
Whenever glooptest is brought up while he's around, he sees it fit to bitch at me that my treasure chest spawning code is slow. |
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Peacock |
does it use ongen? |
| 15:37 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/blob/master/glooptest/othergen_module/init.lua |
| 15:38 |
Peacock |
im guessing the code in question is... treasure_chest_populate? |
| 15:38 |
NekoGloop |
No, that puts the shit in the chests |
| 15:38 |
NekoGloop |
you're looking for the minetest.register_on_generated |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
jesus you use alot of math.randoms |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
in any case, have you compared ongen with using a simpler abm? |
| 15:39 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
| 15:40 |
NekoGloop |
with an abm, I'd have to log every mapblock that it's been attempted on |
| 15:40 |
Peacock |
wait, these things generate underground? |
| 15:41 |
NekoGloop |
and above ground |
| 15:41 |
Peacock |
well with abm's theres the ancient flower method: you look for other chests within a radius and dont proceed if you find one |
| 15:41 |
NekoGloop |
Rank 1/2 are above ground, Rank 3/4/5 are underground |
| 15:41 |
NekoGloop |
That would be even slower, would it not? |
| 15:41 |
Peacock |
well thats why i said compare, can't garantee that it is or it isn't |
| 15:42 |
NekoGloop |
And, can you actually try it? It doesn't cause any slowdown for me. I have a feeling Pilz is just fucking with me. |
| 15:42 |
Peacock |
well it depends how many mods pilz is running that uses ongen as well |
| 15:42 |
NekoGloop |
default |
| 15:43 |
Peacock |
well i run a very old default so im not sure my test results would be any use |
| 15:44 |
NekoGloop |
just compare it to your normal speed >.> |
| 15:46 |
NekoGloop |
i'm more concerned with the difference than the speed |
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| 15:46 |
Peacock |
what is #coords.x (the # for?) |
| 15:46 |
NekoGloop |
number of entries |
| 15:47 |
Peacock |
ah shit i forgot about that lol |
| 15:47 |
Peacock |
whats the difference between minetest.place/add/set_node? lol |
| 15:47 |
NekoGloop |
set is add |
| 15:47 |
NekoGloop |
and place acts like a player |
| 15:48 |
Peacock |
i suppose theres a reason for having 3 different methods lol |
| 15:48 |
Peacock |
(in the api i mean) |
| 15:48 |
NekoGloop |
no |
| 15:48 |
NekoGloop |
set = add |
| 15:48 |
NekoGloop |
place acts like a player |
| 15:48 |
Peacock |
for i = minp.x,maxp.x do |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
table.insert(coords.x, i) |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
end |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
i think this might be the culprint |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
how big is the table? |
| 15:49 |
NekoGloop |
as big as the mapblock |
| 15:50 |
Peacock |
so 3 tables of 16 entries? |
| 15:50 |
NekoGloop |
or so |
| 15:51 |
Peacock |
well the only other part that might be slow is the randoms() |
| 15:52 |
Peacock |
or the get nodes |
| 15:52 |
Peacock |
if youre doing it on every node in the mapblock, that 16^3 get nodes |
| 15:52 |
Peacock |
for every mapblock generated |
| 15:52 |
NekoGloop |
give me a better way to do it then |
| 15:53 |
Peacock |
not sure i could help coming up with a better use of ongen, i think it's slow as fuck |
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| 15:54 |
Peacock |
but if you want to generate stuff on the surface, id suggest just running an abm on grass/sand/etc and checking for air above, at least that way your doing it on 1 in 20 or 30 nodes (chance) instead of every node of the mapblock |
| 15:55 |
Peacock |
as for the underground portion, use the oregen code |
| 15:55 |
Peacock |
and populate the chests only when they are opened for the first time |
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NekoGloop |
they aren't ores though |
| 16:03 |
NekoGloop |
they spawn in caves |
| 16:04 |
e1z0 |
how to make invunerable man ? |
| 16:04 |
e1z0 |
what command ? |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
none |
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ImQ009 |
I KNEW! I knew I forgot about something from my autojoin list |
| 16:35 |
Calinou |
~obit ImQ009 |
| 16:35 |
ImQ009 |
Calinou, Stop leaking other channels into here |
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* Calinou |
puts a pony on ImQ009's head |
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* ImQ009 |
ignores the pony |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
hello ImQ009 |
| 16:48 |
ImQ009 |
Hello, fellow other-channel-er |
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* john_minetest |
puts a Calinou on pony's head |
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* KikaRz |
puts another pony in john_minetest's head. |
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| 17:03 |
smoke_fumus |
i'm gonna repost this, just to support my friend http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=151680542 < guy making topdown roguelike survival, something between minecraft and df adventurer mode set on a procedurially generated island. |
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Peacock |
damn gov't sent us a tax bill that was high enough to precipitate an anxiety attack lol - its ok though, turns out they owe us 3x the amount |
| 17:36 |
Jordach |
\o/ \O/ |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
they fucked up on our marital status and counted us as singles lol |
| 17:37 |
Jordach |
Minetest on Steam *oh shit* |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
on steam? |
| 17:37 |
Jordach |
that'll happen one day |
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| 17:37 |
Peacock |
does the GPL allow it? |
| 17:37 |
Jordach |
as now we have the mod installer, it's VERY possible |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
Peacock, LGPL remember |
| 17:38 |
Peacock |
well what does the mod installer have to do with minetest on steam? |
| 17:38 |
Peacock |
and are you sure it won't attract more griefers than anything else? :P |
| 17:40 |
NekoGloop |
isn't that what every new user is at this point |
| 17:40 |
Peacock |
i just figured out that not only do BRs grief, but theyre the ones lagging the hell out of my server |
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| 17:43 |
Peacock |
sucks but i had to remove interact from default privs to deal with them :( |
| 17:44 |
Jordach |
the brazilians |
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| 17:45 |
Jordach |
someone from BR took out my vps iirc |
| 17:47 |
Peacock |
how did they do that? |
| 17:49 |
pgrytdal |
I have a problem. Whenever I launch Minetest in Manjaro (Either installed form the Manjaro repos or the Arch repos), Manjaro logs me out. |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
Peacock, they managed to work out the root pass |
| 17:52 |
Peacock |
jesus |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
you're forgetting most people in BR are criminals |
| 17:52 |
Peacock |
well theyre forcing me to use ip range blocking for the first time, 419 entries to block one country lol |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
get fucked BR. -Mauvebic |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
seriously, i havent had 1 single BR that built anything lol |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
they either grief or fly when they shouldn't be able to |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
while lagging out everyone else |
| 17:54 |
* Jordach |
doesnt trust brunob.santos |
| 17:56 |
Peacock |
i somehow get the feeling he's looking for a way to hack his client, rather than prevent it XD |
| 17:57 |
PilzAdam |
seems legit: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110327#p110327 |
| 17:57 |
Jordach |
try again |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
you should have moved to "other languages"... |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
link nroken "{ |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
*link broken :P |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
donesies. |
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| 18:02 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HkAM8g7kA |
| 18:03 |
Peacock |
uhuhuhuhuh, rap |
| 18:04 |
Peacock |
is crap with a silent c |
| 18:04 |
jin_xi |
a real g is silent like lasagna |
| 18:05 |
Peacock |
this rap culture BS has even made it's way to canada where every other weekend innocent kids get caught in the crossfire between gangbangers |
| 18:05 |
Peacock |
though mostly in Toronto |
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| 18:11 |
Jordach |
do they say "sorry" when shooting each other |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
naw, theyre not regular black people (born here) theyre haitians and somalians |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
i still dont get why people wish to leave a shitty country to make their destination as shitty |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
in the span of 15 years in TO and Montreal ive gone from leftwing/socialist to rightwing/libertarian lol |
| 18:16 |
jojoa1997 |
Because they could have problems in their old place |
| 18:17 |
jin_xi |
Peacock: i suspect its more like beeing frustrated and nursing bad thought patterns with alcool while being delusional about wisdom |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
theres something to be frustrated about, Toronto and Montreal used to be decent places to live |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
even the cops are more agressive now because they put up with this shit daily |
| 18:18 |
* jojoa1997 |
wonders when kaeza is on |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
and since profiling isn't PC they treat everyone like potential criminals |
| 18:19 |
Peacock |
and i dont really see where drinking comes into it, rightwingers drink, leftwingers get high, so wheres the difference? |
| 18:24 |
Peacock |
it always amuses me though how young people with very few burdens complain about the habits of those that do have |
| 18:24 |
jin_xi |
drinkers often get suspicious of everything and often also think they figured out/speak the truth |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
some people do neither |
| 18:27 |
Peacock |
but somehow your wisdom is infallible... |
| 18:27 |
Peacock |
what do you blame when you're wrong? |
| 18:28 |
jin_xi |
wikipedia |
| 18:28 |
Peacock |
lol the people who edit articles usually have a vested interest in the subject at hand |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
so i wouldn't bank entirely on that alone |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
and if you knew jack about acohol or drugs you'd know it has different effects on different people |
| 18:31 |
Peacock |
they give synthetic cocaine to ADHD cases because it actually calmes them down, and thats just one example |
| 18:31 |
Peacock |
normal people who take those medications feel like they're on speed |
| 18:32 |
jin_xi |
so lets rant about drugged up students studying way to hard |
| 18:33 |
Peacock |
well you brought alcohol into this, not me |
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| 18:35 |
jin_xi |
you often mention your drinking, thats why... im mostly just annoyed with too much offtopic stuff |
| 18:36 |
Peacock |
when people are ontopic i stay ontopic, if nothing's going on here then we talk about whatever, that's how it's always been, and no one's forcing you to participate in the offtopic stuff |
| 18:36 |
jin_xi |
i know and usually dont bother |
| 18:37 |
* ShadowNinja |
notices [0gb_us]'s cloak. |
| 18:37 |
Peacock |
and there's always -dev which is strictly ontopic |
| 18:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah. I wasn't going to ask for one, but because of what this one is, I did. But then they put a dash in my name in my cloak. I think "0gb-us" is a separate and valid name on IRC, so what if 0gb-us wants this cloak? I can only hope such a name never ends up in use. |
| 18:39 |
* Jordach |
too |
| 18:40 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, and go FSF! |
| 18:40 |
* Jordach |
doesn't like the iPhone 5S |
| 18:41 |
Peacock |
whats wrong with the 5S? |
| 18:41 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: It won't, nicks starting with numbers are reserved for EUIDs. |
| 18:41 |
ShadowNinja |
And those are always in the form 0AAAAAAA. |
| 18:41 |
[0gb_us] |
Oops, I meant "us-0gb". |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
Peacock, fingerprint scanners |
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* Jordach |
wonders where that data goes |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
!g banned iPhone 5S ad |
| 18:42 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIWez9HAbA |
| 18:42 |
[0gb_us] |
So someone could register as "us-0gb", and I'd be whearing his/her cloak. |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
!g "banned iPhone 5S promo" |
| 18:42 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzG4BcaK064 |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
Peacock, ^ |
| 18:43 |
Peacock |
meh, my cell contract ends in a few months, after that im getting a dumbphone :P |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
y u no blackberry |
| 18:43 |
Peacock |
theyre shit lol |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
Peacock, canadian, i thought you'd love to support the local economy |
| 18:43 |
[0gb_us] |
I'll stick with landlines, myself. |
| 18:43 |
Peacock |
whether its a blackberry, iphone or android device, it's all made in china |
| 18:45 |
Peacock |
and blackberries are to smartphones what palmpilots are to tablets :P |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
they do the same job without "app" bs |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
modern iPod (classics) even have pojntless apps |
| 18:46 |
Peacock |
well a dumbphone can take calls and do text msgs, and without a complicated OS on top, so longer battery life |
| 18:46 |
* Jordach |
uses an iPod for music, not games |
| 18:47 |
* [0gb_us] |
uses his laptop for music and games |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
and it's not the next best thingâ„¢ |
| 18:47 |
Peacock |
i dont really care if my phone can check my emails and wipe my ass for me, so long as i can carry it around without a charger lol |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], i don't mind laptops for that purpose |
| 18:48 |
[0gb_us] |
My laptop handles all my tech needs besides server hosting and phone calls./ |
| 18:49 |
* Jordach |
doesn't like laptops |
| 18:49 |
Exio4 |
laptops are k |
| 18:49 |
Exio4 |
desktops > laptops though |
| 18:49 |
[0gb_us] |
Jordach, that promo is ... a little scary. I don't want someone cutting off my thumb. |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
if that fan sucks in anything that fits through the grating, it will possibly overheat the laptop and might start fires |
| 18:50 |
* Jordach |
has had that |
| 18:50 |
[0gb_us] |
Desktops hurt my wrists to use and are far less portable. Though laptops do have disadvantages as well as advantages. |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
really, hurt your wrists, man, by the amount i use my tower i'm surpised i don't have RSI |
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| 18:51 |
Jordach |
hey Uberi |
| 18:51 |
Exio4 |
you can't have watercooling with a laptop can you? |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
having a nice hail storm |
| 18:51 |
Exio4 |
inb4 portable pump |
| 18:52 |
Uberi |
Jordach: today was 11 degrees |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
oh |
| 18:52 |
Uberi |
I don't understand this weather |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
but jesus; i'd head inside if they came down again |
| 18:53 |
Uberi |
hail out of the blue on a 33 degree day |
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Jordach |
yay for celscius |
| 18:53 |
* Jordach |
doesn't like farenheit |
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[0gb_us] |
Indeed. Stupid United Statsians using their own measurement system. Why not use the world standard? |
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* Jordach |
suggests kelvin |
| 18:54 |
* Uberi |
suggests rankine |
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[0gb_us] |
Kelven isn't the world standard though. |
| 18:54 |
[0gb_us] |
Neither is Rankine. |
| 18:55 |
* Uberi |
suggests newton-fathom-horsepower |
| 18:55 |
* Jordach |
changes internal reactor core |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
it's old (i change that thing monthly) |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
i'm essentially battery powered :P |
| 18:56 |
us-0gb |
I was right. This account isn't treated the same by IRC as us_0gb. So my cloak is wrong about who I am. My cloak makes me an imposter! |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 18:56 |
[0gb_us] |
(us_0gb is my real account.) |
| 18:57 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: Normally they add /x-123456 After your cloak if you have chars like - that arean't supported in cloaks. |
| 18:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh .... So underscores are not supported in cloaks but dashes are? |
| 18:58 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 18:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 18:59 |
* Jordach |
picks NekoGloop up and pets him |
| 18:59 |
[0gb_us] |
I feel like less of an impostor in that case then, ShadowNinja. |
| 18:59 |
* NekoGloop |
flails around >w< |
| 18:59 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
who's our little kitty :3 |
| 19:00 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes. |
| 19:00 |
NekoGloop |
me? :3 |
| 19:04 |
* NekoGloop |
continues flailing around helplessly >w< |
| 19:05 |
* john_minetest |
gives <*(((< to NekoGloop |
| 19:05 |
* [0gb_us] |
dangles a string a little ways away, just out of reach, and jiggles it |
| 19:05 |
Peacock |
this cat stuff is getting creepy :P |
| 19:05 |
* NekoGloop |
noms the fishy |
| 19:05 |
* NekoGloop |
tries batting at the string |
| 19:05 |
Peacock |
even my cat can be creepy - everytime i shower or use the can, she comes in, sits and stares XD |
| 19:06 |
[0gb_us] |
Draw the curtain if you don't want your cat to see you. |
| 19:06 |
Peacock |
its a semi transparent shower curtain lol |
| 19:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. Well, I don't care if my cat sees me. She's just a cat. |
| 19:07 |
Peacock |
she's also an excellent alarm clock - every morning around 8 she hops into bed and licks our faces until we wake up |
| 19:08 |
[0gb_us] |
Aw. I wish mine did that. But no, I have to use an alarm application on my laptop. |
| 19:08 |
Peacock |
im bad with actual alarm clocks - tend to get up, turn it off, and not remember doing it lol |
| 19:11 |
Peacock |
the only solution was to get one of those complicated alarm apps that makes you answer math to turn it off lol |
| 19:11 |
[0gb_us] |
Ha ha, nice. I've never heard of those. |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
i think it was an adroid app, tho i might be wrong |
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[0gb_us] |
I've never used an Android. If i were to get a smart phone, I think I'd want this $800 USD one I saw. But of course, I don't have that kind of money. |
| 19:14 |
[0gb_us] |
john_minetest, that's what the math is for. |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
$800 on a phone? |
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* NekoGloop |
continues flailing around in Jordach's hands |
| 19:15 |
Peacock |
hitting the snooze isn't nearly as bad as working nights and falling asleep on the bus ride home - woke up downtown quite a few times lol |
| 19:15 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Ok so creative mode. This is for allowing you to spawn blocks or something to build a world without collecting resources? |
| 19:16 |
Peacock |
yes |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
it allows you to get _most_ blocks from inventory |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
unlimited |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
typically, flying and moving fast is also allowed but depends on server |
| 19:16 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Is there a wiki page for how to do that? |
| 19:16 |
[0gb_us] |
The phone is as powerful as a desktop computer. And if you plug in a keyboard and mouse, it acts like one. It tri-boots Ubuntu Descktop, Ubuntu Touch, and Android. Not to mention that it has a screen so hard only diamonds and harder than diamond things can scratch it. |
| 19:16 |
Peacock |
unlimited nodes! http://goo.gl/talDu0 |
| 19:17 |
Peacock |
john this one time i fell asleep, i did the whole "trajet" (english?) twice before being woken lol |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
trajet = trip? |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us]: ubuntu edge is dead |
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| 19:18 |
Calinou |
also, marketing |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
"Not to mention that it has a screen so hard only diamonds and harder than diamond things can scratch it." |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
will never happen |
| 19:18 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, dead? Too bad. Awesome phone. |
| 19:18 |
Peacock |
yeah trip/route |
| 19:18 |
Uberi |
sapphire is still quite vulnerable to shattering, unfortunately |
| 19:18 |
Peacock |
twice the round trip lol |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
and also very expensive |
| 19:19 |
[0gb_us] |
That's the first cell phone I ever actually wanted. Normally I find them to be a nuisance. |
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[0gb_us] |
Still, a device as powerful as a desktop computer but as portable as a hand-held device? You can't blame me for drooling over it. |
| 19:25 |
Exio4 |
[15:57:36] <ShadowNinja> [0gb_us]: Normally they add /x-123456 After your cloak if you have chars like - that arean't supported in cloaks. |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
not as powerful at all |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
ARM is focusing on power saving, it won't be as powerful as a low end desktop CPU for years |
| 19:25 |
Exio4 |
aren't supported = non-dns chars |
| 19:25 |
Exio4 |
like / |
| 19:25 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: it will be |
| 19:26 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: I know. |
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Prestotron562 |
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Calinou |
not in the next years, if you compare of the low end desktop CPUs of the next years |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
I mean in heavy use |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
eg. compiling |
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[0gb_us] |
I asked for fsf/member/0gb.us, which would be supported. But I guess since I can't have a dot in my IRc name, they wouldn't give me a dot in my cloak name. Not that it really matters, but just saying. |
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Prestotron562 |
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Calinou |
lol, FSF member |
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[0gb_us] |
In what way is that funny? I don't get it. |
| 19:29 |
proller |
Calinou, arm already usable as desktop |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
yes and no |
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STHGOM |
Morrolan: was i talking to you a couple days ago about changing the players tag, and then you said you were interested? |
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Jordach |
proller, ARM sucks for Blender use |
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Jordach |
(no OpenCL, no accelerated 3D) |
| 19:33 |
Peacock |
Peacock.beer() Peacock.start_tinfoil_hat_mode() end :P |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
Jordach.insert_new_reactor_core() Jordach.reactor_power_test(full) |
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[0gb_us] |
"full" |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
full takes 1-4 hours |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
minimal is 20 mins |
| 19:35 |
Peacock |
lets hope jordach doesn't pull a fukushima :P |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
Peacock, if it fails, i dump 7 boron rods straight in there (one through the middle) and hexagonal outside |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
ugh, gotta fix the towel rack, who installs a towel rack without anchors? lol |
| 19:37 |
[0gb_us] |
People with no construction skills. |
| 19:38 |
Peacock |
doesn't explain the popularity of ikea and DIY lol |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
stove hut is falling off too, they only put 2 of the 6 screws required lol |
| 19:39 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: Isn't this a internal-only setting? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/768 |
| 19:40 |
Peacock |
github is slow today |
| 19:40 |
Peacock |
is it slow for anyone else? |
| 19:41 |
[0gb_us] |
Won't load. Did I put the setting in the wrong section of the doc, or is it something else? |
| 19:41 |
ShadowNinja |
Just stopped for me too. *waits for status.github.com to update...* |
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[0gb_us] |
If you want to pull to the correct part of the doc, I'll take mine down. |
| 19:42 |
ShadowNinja |
Internal Server Error <-- Well that wasn't the update I was waiting for... |
| 19:42 |
Peacock |
mine got stuck on fastfly.net whatever github pulls from there |
| 19:43 |
[0gb_us] |
Is there someone here who's fluent in Minetest's C++ and wouldn't mind helping a novice figure out what src/mapblock.cpp does and why it is hardcoded to use three nodes from default? |
| 19:43 |
Peacock |
good luck, id need a flowchart to figure how each of the files relate to eachother lol |
| 19:44 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: I beleive drawtypes are managed in there... |
| 19:45 |
[0gb_us] |
I came accross the issue last night, when I was greping to see if there were any mapgen aliases I didn't know about. It turned out I missed three, and two don't even have the "mapgen_" prefix. |
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proller |
Jordach, its blender sucks ;) but arm now not for high-cpu-use tasks |
| 19:45 |
[0gb_us] |
So three default nodes have hacks to manage their drawtypes? |
| 19:46 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: What nodes? |
| 19:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Ah, found them... |
| 19:48 |
[0gb_us] |
default:stone, default:stone_with_iron, and default:stone_with_coal. It sort of looks like an ore-placing deal, but I'm fairly certain they took that out of C++. |
| 19:48 |
Menche |
migrating my server's map to leveldb is going to take 100 mins at its current rate. |
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Menche |
what kind of hacks? aren't those just normal node drawtypes? |
| 19:49 |
[0gb_us] |
Menche, I see. Big map? |
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[0gb_us] |
I don't know what the code does, so I'm not sure. |
| 19:49 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: It looks like it is for loading legacy MapBlocks that stored the ore(if any) in the param1 of stone. |
| 19:49 |
[0gb_us] |
All I know is that those nodes are requested by name, not alias, in C++. |
| 19:50 |
Menche |
lets see, map is 1.5G in sqlite3 |
| 19:50 |
Menche |
not the biggest ever |
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[0gb_us] |
Storing ore in the param1? Okay, thank you very much, ShadowNinja! |
| 19:50 |
jojoa1997 |
Hi |
| 19:50 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 19:51 |
[0gb_us] |
I'll just ignore that section of the code then. It sounds like legacy support. |
| 19:51 |
ShadowNinja |
Yep, legacy support code. |
| 19:51 |
Peacock |
i think i still have the legacy mod lol |
| 19:51 |
* ShadowNinja |
is at 1.2G now... |
| 19:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Legacy mod? |
| 19:52 |
Menche |
still migrating at about 1% a minute |
| 19:52 |
* Menche |
goes to get lunch while it converts |
| 19:53 |
[0gb_us] |
It's in the default game. It's called "legacy" or something. |
| 19:53 |
[0gb_us] |
It handles the rat and such. |
| 19:53 |
ShadowNinja |
Ah. |
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Peacock |
dunno, it's just called 'legacy' |
| 19:56 |
Peacock |
ah, roughly 60 aliases |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
(just looked at it) |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
i think it was probably written for the transition to lua default mod |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Is the server config file the same as the one used in single player if not specified? |
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[0gb_us] |
Yeah, it is. |
| 20:04 |
[0gb_us] |
Which is why you should specify it. |
| 20:04 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Ok |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Well its a dedicated home server so I just wanted to add creative mode to it. |
| 20:05 |
[0gb_us] |
I've had my server accedentally go into creative mode after having tested some new nodes in creative mode single player several times before I started specifying a separate conf. |
| 20:05 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, okay, got it. |
| 20:05 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, just edit the main minetest.conf file and restart. That should work. |
| 20:07 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Hmm I dont see there yet. Whats the easiest way to get a default conf file? |
| 20:08 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Copy one over from a client machine to start with? |
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[0gb_us] |
I don't know, but if you want the default settings plus creative mode, make a blank one and add "creative_mode = true" or whatever the creative mode line is. |
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[0gb_us] |
The rest will be all the defaults. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Oh ok cool thanks |
| 20:09 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, no problem. |
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ShadowNinja |
Sokomine: It seems travelnets and elevators aren't really deleted. I have a bunch of ["xxx,zzz"] = { } and ["test"] = { } in my travelnet file. |
| 20:15 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
free_move = true (Does that enable flying?) |
| 20:16 |
[0gb_us] |
It enables flying for the local player if and only if they have the fly privilege. It's a client setting. |
| 20:16 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
| 20:16 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Whats the server equivalent for flying enabled? |
| 20:16 |
ShadowNinja |
LinuxGuy2020: Grant everyone 'fly'. (default_privs or so) |
| 20:17 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Gotcha |
| 20:17 |
[0gb_us] |
default_privs = fly, shout, interact |
| 20:17 |
[0gb_us] |
But that only effects NEW accounts. You'll need to update old accounts, possibly manually. |
| 20:17 |
[0gb_us] |
You could write code for it if you prefer. |
| 20:17 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
ok cool |
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jojoa1997 |
[0gb_us} yuor server fixed? |
| 20:20 |
[0gb_us] |
Fixed as in not slow? No, it's still slow. Fixed as in something else? How is it broken? |
| 20:21 |
jojoa1997 |
slowness |
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[0gb_us] |
Yeah, still slow. |
| 20:22 |
Menche |
map migration 36% completed... |
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* jojoa1997 |
done with overcraft armor textures |
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[0gb_us] |
I just finished my dirt texture. I must say, it's not as good as the default dirt, but it's not as bad as I had feared it would be. |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
if my singleplayer world converted completely, the leveldb map is quite a bit smaller than sqlite3 |
| 20:26 |
Menche |
map.db = 8.4M, map.sqlite = 17M |
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[0gb_us] |
Nice! |
| 20:27 |
[0gb_us] |
I wish I could use that for my world. It seems LevelDB isn't for PowerPC. |
| 20:28 |
Menche |
powerpc? you're running it on an old mac? |
| 20:29 |
Peacock |
menche dont tell that to PA, he doesn't seem to like leveldb :P |
| 20:29 |
Menche |
why not? |
| 20:29 |
Peacock |
i have no idea lol but he got irate when i and another mentioned it was faster |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, thx for highlighting me :-p |
| 20:29 |
Menche |
me? |
| 20:30 |
PilzAdam |
eh, Peacock |
| 20:30 |
Peacock |
but i wrote PA so you wouldn't be pinged :/ |
| 20:30 |
PilzAdam |
hehe |
| 20:30 |
Peacock |
does irc have aliases too? |
| 20:30 |
Peacock |
well sorry to ping you, i dont wanna start up a debate over leveldv :P |
| 20:31 |
Peacock |
*leveldb |
| 20:31 |
Peacock |
from now on ill say pulseaudio :P |
| 20:31 |
Menche |
PA stop breaking everyone's sound configuration! |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
was it ogb or nekogloop that talked with me about leveldb yesterday? |
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jojoa1997 |
player:get_inventory():set_stack("main", j, "compass:"..compass_image) |
| 20:33 |
jojoa1997 |
what does the j mean |
| 20:33 |
Peacock |
j-dawg :P |
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| 20:37 |
Menche |
my server map apparently has roughly 2 million blocks |
| 20:37 |
Peacock |
small map? |
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[0gb_us] |
Menche, yes, the hardware is an old Mac. The software is Ubuntu. |
| 20:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Ubuntu Server, not Desktop. |
| 20:38 |
Menche |
looks like there may be a leveldb build in debian sid |
| 20:38 |
Menche |
powerpc that is |
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[0gb_us] |
Debian doesn't like the machine though. |
| 20:39 |
[0gb_us] |
On Debian, the wired Ethernet connection keeps going out. |
| 20:39 |
STHGOM |
bye |
| 20:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Bye. |
| 20:39 |
Peacock |
really? me its wireless that doesn't work with network-manager lol |
| 20:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Debian also doesn't like my laptop's Ethernet or my Laptop's graphics card. |
| 20:40 |
[0gb_us] |
But the PowerPC server is wired. |
| 20:40 |
Peacock |
debian also doesn't like the collada plugin XD |
| 20:40 |
Peacock |
*crosses fingers for a libre-free-debian* |
| 20:40 |
Menche |
could probably install debian packages on ubuntu. they both use dpkg, after all. |
| 20:41 |
Peacock |
thats a debian free of the fake freedom loving crowd lol |
| 20:41 |
Menche |
isn't debian libre by default? |
| 20:41 |
[0gb_us] |
Yes, they do. I might look into that when time allows. |
| 20:41 |
Peacock |
debian is FSF free, trisquel is libre |
| 20:41 |
Menche |
thought that all nonfree packages in debian were moved to repos that aren't enabled by default. |
| 20:42 |
Menche |
and the FSF still isn't satisfied :P |
| 20:42 |
[0gb_us] |
I want Trisquel, but it feels similarly about my hardware as Debian, but more extreme. |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
any sane OS would leave it all in and let the user decide (isn't it supposed to be about the user's freedom) |
| 20:42 |
Menche |
isn't trisquel ubu based? |
| 20:42 |
[0gb_us] |
The problem is having the non-free repos at all. |
| 20:42 |
[0gb_us] |
It is, yes. |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
open source devs write software, the libre crowd disables parts of it, pretty much how it goes lol |
| 20:43 |
[0gb_us] |
Oddly enough, the FSF created Debian, yet Debian doesn't continue to fill their needs. |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
no wonder there's a split in the movement |
| 20:44 |
[0gb_us] |
The "open source" crowd isn't making the whole thing free. That's not the libre crowd's fault. |
| 20:44 |
[0gb_us] |
Free as in freedom, not price. |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
apparently the FSF's problem with debian is that "people can readily learn about [the nonfree repos]" and "the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers". |
| 20:44 |
Peacock |
open source is a reasonable approach, libre isn't (imo) |
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[0gb_us] |
Yes. It's the non-free repos that are the issue. |
| 20:45 |
Menche |
can't even offer the alternative of proprietary software if you want the FSF to like you. |
| 20:45 |
[0gb_us] |
Non-free yet official debian repos. |
| 20:45 |
Peacock |
open source can do alot of awesome things, but it can't do *everything* as good as prop. |
| 20:45 |
Peacock |
well the FSF and RMS are more or less irrelevant, they dont write much code, they just generate hot air |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
and with greenhouse gases being a major issue, something should be done about them XD :P |
| 20:46 |
[0gb_us] |
It could if more people were on board. Free is inherently more powerful. It allows us to build off the past and not re-invent the wheel fifty times. |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
depends how you see freedom |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
for libre, its freedom from prop. software |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
for opensource, its the freedom to choose the best tool for the job |
| 20:47 |
Peacock |
i usually go with the one that doesn't limit my options |
| 20:47 |
[0gb_us] |
If proprietary people invent something, the next proprietary people must reinvent the same thing if they want to have it. Not so with free code. |
| 20:47 |
Menche |
not all the time with free code. |
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[0gb_us] |
If free code can't be reused, it's not really free code at all. |
| 20:48 |
Peacock |
well you can't live in a purely libre world, many of the professional devs who give their time to opensource wouldn't be devs in such a world |
| 20:48 |
Menche |
for example, the linux kernel doesn't have zfs support because of some clash between the GPL and zfs' s licence iirc |
| 20:48 |
Menche |
both are some kind of open source |
| 20:49 |
[0gb_us] |
If ZFS is non-free, it's ZFS's issue. Open source does not always involve freedom. There is a difference. |
| 20:49 |
Peacock |
all in all, OSS/FS used to be quite reasonable until RMS rewrote the GPL so it came to be described as the "GPL virus" |
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[0gb_us] |
I'll have to look into that. |
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* jojoa1997 |
testing the ability to have 2 types of hands at once |
| 20:50 |
Menche |
the GPL would be a great license if everyone used it. Not everyone does, so it causes licensing problems. |
| 20:51 |
Menche |
s/great/better/ |
| 20:51 |
[0gb_us] |
That's the problem: people want to use proprietary licenses. |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
companies that need to make money can't use it :P |
| 20:51 |
Menche |
i prefer the MIT/X license |
| 20:51 |
Menche |
Peacock, you can technically sell GPL code |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
not everyone can squat at MIT like RMS does |
| 20:52 |
Peacock |
the minute you sell the code your transferring copyright and the new owner can relicense, the libre crowd would still be up in arms |
| 20:52 |
[0gb_us] |
Companies can make money other ways, such as selling the game content in the case of games, while making the code free. As for things such as document editors, there's not really a good way to make money off of them. |
| 20:52 |
Menche |
there are commercial linux distributions like Red Hat Enterprise |
| 20:53 |
Peacock |
all i knows is, so long as a significant enough portion of the free crowd insists on everything being free, companies will never take it seriously |
| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
I beleive ID does something like this. |
| 20:53 |
Menche |
linux is free but gets plenty of commercial support |
| 20:53 |
Menche |
lots of big companies contribute to the kernel |
| 20:54 |
Peacock |
yeah because it brings the price of windows down and limits MS's power |
| 20:54 |
[0gb_us] |
All I know is that if users refuse to use proprietary software, companies won't be writing it, as they won't have any customers. |
| 20:54 |
Peacock |
that will never happen |
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[0gb_us] |
Windows is awful, with or without freedom and with or without cost. |
| 20:54 |
Menche |
agreed. |
| 20:55 |
Peacock |
most people, workers and home users alike, just need something that works, they don't have time to give a shit if their graphics drivers are completely free or not |
| 20:55 |
[0gb_us] |
ubuntu just works, and Windows just doesn't. Ubuntu isn't free, but that's not really the point here. |
| 20:55 |
Peacock |
its not like everyone has the luxury sit around IRC all day discussing the merits of free vs. proprietary lol |
| 20:55 |
Menche |
one of my teachers was demonstrating something with a piece of FOSS software, and whenever he had a problem he'd say something like "that's what you expect from open source. purchased software is better tested." |
| 20:56 |
Peacock |
menche well there is a difference, companies care if you don't plan on using their future versions |
| 20:56 |
Peacock |
some (not all) oss devs are like "fuck you, its free" |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
if youre trying to run a business, you can't have that kind of response |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
nor does a business-owner (of any size) have the time to fix the bugs themselves |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
thats why i prefer the middle-way :P |
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jojoa1997 |
is it possible to set a node for the players hand with set_stack? |
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Peacock |
not really |
| 21:00 |
Peacock |
youd have to know which selection (1-8) theyre on |
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[0gb_us] |
Peacock, you mentioned that some free licenses are incompatible with GPL, right? |
| 21:01 |
[0gb_us] |
Do you have any examples? |
| 21:02 |
Menche |
certain variants of the BSD license are |
| 21:02 |
Menche |
believe one has a clause about advertising that clashes in some way |
| 21:03 |
[0gb_us] |
GPL disallows advertising? Or BSD-variant does? |
| 21:03 |
Evergreen |
If anyone remembers, I'm back from my surgery! \ |
| 21:04 |
Menche |
iirc one of the BSD licenses requires you give credit for every contributer in any piece of advertising. forget the details. |
| 21:04 |
[0gb_us] |
Yay! I missed it. WHat were you in surgery for? |
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| 21:04 |
Evergreen |
Ankle growth correction, my ankles were tilting outwards, and I had plates put in to stop the outside of my ankle from growing |
| 21:05 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. That doesn't seem like giving credit would be disallowed in GPL ... |
| 21:05 |
[0gb_us] |
Ah, how'd that go? Are your ankles fine now? |
| 21:06 |
Menche |
wikipedia: "[the GPL] does not allow the addition of restrictions beyond those it already imposes" |
| 21:07 |
Menche |
lists the old 4-clause BSD license as GPL incompatible |
| 21:07 |
AWTom |
http://xkcd.com/978/ |
| 21:07 |
* sfan5 |
just wrote a design document for a reliable and fast key-value flatfile database |
| 21:08 |
Menche |
for another map saving backend? |
| 21:08 |
Evergreen |
Yeah, I'm fine, thanks for caring. :P |
| 21:08 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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Peacock |
ogb not sure where i said GPL was incompatible with free licenses, though it is nearly useless for most commercial endeavours |
| 21:10 |
Peacock |
evergreen, operation? are you now, a complete woman? :P |
| 21:11 |
Evergreen |
No, lol |
| 21:11 |
Evergreen |
x) |
| 21:11 |
Peacock |
just kidding :P |
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AWTom |
dial-up |
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AWTom |
interesting |
| 21:13 |
sfan5 |
good night everyone |
| 21:13 |
Peacock |
dial up? *checks the calendar* naw were not back in the 90s |
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us_0gb |
Hmm? That was odd. A break in the connection, then I lost my name. Whatever though. |
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us_0gb |
I see you over there, [0gb_us]. |
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AWTom |
the person on dial-up d/c'd |
| 21:14 |
Peacock |
lol aaaaaaaaaaand he's gone |
| 21:14 |
Peacock |
(again) |
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us_0gb |
I didn't lose my connection to two other networks though, so I can only assume the issue is on Freenode's end. |
| 21:16 |
Peacock |
first github and now freenode lol |
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AWTom |
The internet is experiencing rolling blackouts. |
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Guest55739 |
Does anyone know why someone would not be able to connect to my server useing rembo |
| 21:18 |
Guest55739 |
remobo* |
| 21:18 |
Menche |
are you on each other's "buddy list"? |
| 21:18 |
us_0gb |
Maybe they don't have or know how to use Remobo? |
| 21:18 |
Guest55739 |
Yeap |
| 21:18 |
Guest55739 |
Nope, they do |
| 21:19 |
Guest55739 |
Menche, I can add ya and you can test it |
| 21:19 |
Guest55739 |
So we know its my end |
| 21:19 |
Menche |
you're using the IP from mousing over the other's entry on the "buddy list"? |
| 21:19 |
Guest55739 |
Nope, the one on mine |
| 21:19 |
Guest55739 |
the numbers under menu |
| 21:20 |
Menche |
is there a debug.txt file? it might be the server not remobo |
| 21:20 |
Guest55739 |
they cant even get passed "conecting" |
| 21:21 |
Guest55739 |
like its not even on |
| 21:21 |
Guest55739 |
I will check the debug |
| 21:21 |
Guest55739 |
Nope |
| 21:21 |
Menche |
i had problems connecting to my own server (direct-connect). I couldn't really figure out what was wrong. |
| 21:22 |
Guest55739 |
Please don't leave me hanging lol |
| 21:22 |
Menche |
try adding "debug_log_level = 4" to your minetest.conf and see if it makes a debug file |
| 21:22 |
Guest55739 |
I have a debug file |
| 21:23 |
Guest55739 |
I mean, theirs nothingin it |
| 21:23 |
Guest55739 |
about this problem |
| 21:23 |
Guest55739 |
nothing in* |
| 21:24 |
Menche |
argh, remobo is segfaulting |
| 21:24 |
Guest55739 |
Would you like to add me? |
| 21:24 |
Guest55739 |
You can delete me after |
| 21:25 |
Guest55739 |
Just to see if its my end or remobo |
| 21:25 |
Menche |
try adding "debug_log_level = 4" to your minetest.conf and see if anything is put in |
| 21:25 |
Guest55739 |
ok |
| 21:25 |
Menche |
sorry, i can't get remobo to work |
| 21:26 |
Guest55739 |
I put it in |
| 21:26 |
Guest55739 |
Should I restart my minetest client now |
| 21:26 |
Menche |
yeah, and make sure that stays in minetest.conf (the client may overwrite it on shutdown) |
| 21:26 |
Guest55739 |
okay |
| 21:27 |
Guest55739 |
Okay, I am having someone try now |
| 21:27 |
Guest55739 |
to log in |
| 21:28 |
Guest55739 |
Nope |
| 21:28 |
Guest55739 |
They cant get in |
| 21:29 |
Guest55739 |
I don't get anything either |
| 21:29 |
Guest55739 |
No popus noties nothing |
| 21:29 |
Guest55739 |
pop ups* |
| 21:29 |
Menche |
is there a file called "debug.txt"? |
| 21:29 |
Guest55739 |
yes |
| 21:29 |
Menche |
is there anything in that file? |
| 21:30 |
Guest55739 |
Not about this |
| 21:30 |
Guest55739 |
I am going try to unistall |
| 21:30 |
Guest55739 |
and reinstall |
| 21:30 |
Guest55739 |
What else can I do |
| 21:30 |
Menche |
what OS? |
| 21:30 |
Guest55739 |
Vista |
| 21:30 |
Menche |
official build? |
| 21:31 |
Guest55739 |
windows |
| 21:31 |
Guest55739 |
yea |
| 21:31 |
Menche |
guess you could try one of the more recent 3rd party dev builds |
| 21:31 |
Guest55739 |
hang on |
| 21:32 |
Menche |
i'll try something on my server when this map finishes converting... any second now... |
| 21:34 |
Guest55739 |
brb |
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| 21:43 |
Menche |
anyone understand what this is? http://pastebin.com/6d5n5BFd |
| 21:44 |
us_0gb |
I have no idea what that is. |
| 21:44 |
Menche |
that is what my server is still continually outputing after i quit my client while connecting. |
| 21:45 |
Menche |
i *think* the server may still be trying to communicate with the client |
| 21:46 |
Menche |
wait, someone else logged on |
| 21:47 |
Menche |
im not announcing... |
| 21:47 |
Menche |
it seems i can connect to my private address but not my public one |
| 21:48 |
Menche |
although i could connect to the public one once |
| 21:48 |
us_0gb |
THat's odd. I connect to both the public and private address with little issue. |
| 21:48 |
us_0gb |
Bye. |
| 21:48 |
us_0gb |
(On mine, I mean.) |
| 21:50 |
Menche |
wonder what MinetestBot thinks |
| 21:50 |
Menche |
!up menche.us |
| 21:50 |
MinetestBot |
menche.us:30000 is up (586ms) |
| 21:50 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, you about |
| 21:50 |
VanessaE_ |
am I about what? ;) |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
you know the mod with the carbon diamond pick, which mod is that |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE_ |
I think that's dan's prefab md |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE_ |
mod |
| 21:51 |
jojoa1997 |
!up 0gb.us |
| 21:51 |
MinetestBot |
0gb.us:30000 is up (484ms) |
| 21:51 |
us_0gb |
Up, but slow. |
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Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 21:52 |
jojoa1997 |
!up 170.0.0.1 |
| 21:52 |
MinetestBot |
170.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down |
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Guest55739 |
WOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT |
| 21:52 |
Guest55739 |
I got it |
| 21:52 |
Menche |
!up localhost |
| 21:52 |
MinetestBot |
Menche: Invalid Address |
| 21:52 |
Menche |
!up 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:52 |
MinetestBot |
127.0.0.1:30000 is up (104ms) |
| 21:52 |
VanessaE_ |
(I should remove those carbon tools, they're vastly overpowered from what I'm told) |
| 21:52 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. It looks like [0gb_us] left, so I can take my name back. |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
Menche |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
I could kiss you |
| 21:53 |
Menche |
? |
| 21:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
Always helping me and others |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE_ |
Menche getting anonymous kisses? :) |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
I finnaly got it |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
I am happy now |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
Anyway.......... |
| 21:53 |
[0gb_us] |
He was helping fix Remobo or something. |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
I am off to see the wizard |
| 21:53 |
Guest55739 |
See yall |
| 21:53 |
[0gb_us] |
Bye! |
| 21:53 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, NOPE |
| 21:54 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 21:54 |
Menche |
nope |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE_ |
such may be accepted, if you're extremely lucky |
| 21:54 |
Menche |
at least there hasn't been a commit for over a month in minetest_game (except one commit that corresponded to a commit in the engine) |
| 21:55 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE_ |
Jordach: well at any rate they're one of Dan's mods. |
| 21:55 |
Peacock |
towel rack fixed (XP +100) |
| 21:55 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, TBM+ |
| 21:55 |
Peacock |
now for the stove fan thingy |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE_ |
oh yes |
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jojoa1997 |
what is the best visual compiler for windows |
| 21:57 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 22:00 |
[0gb_us] |
Gotta' go to work. Bye! |
| 22:00 |
proller |
Prestotron562, why you not in school again? |
| 22:02 |
kahrl |
jojoa1997: Microsoft® Visual® Brainfuck® |
| 22:05 |
Jordach |
Jordach.drop_the_muther_fuckin_bass(wub_wub_wub, 120) <- new API get! |
| 22:05 |
Menche |
my client stuck at "Connecting to server..." |
| 22:06 |
Menche |
for about a minute there was no related output on the server end, then it said "Menche times out." |
| 22:06 |
Menche |
and the client is still stuck at "Connecting to server..." |
| 22:06 |
Menche |
"Menche times out." was the only output on the server |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE_ |
I've seen that happen on mine a couple of times too |
| 22:07 |
Menche |
I've seen it on mine, but that was usually because the media download was taking long. Now it isn't even getting that far. |
| 22:07 |
Menche |
Before, the server would say "username joins the game" or similar, then "username times out." later. |
| 22:08 |
Menche |
now it only has the timeout message. |
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Jordach |
VanessaE_, /nick VanessaE |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE_ |
too lazy :P |
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| 22:08 |
Jordach |
D: |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
that's easier |
| 22:09 |
Menche |
however, it works when I connect to my private address |
| 22:09 |
* Jordach |
calls bullshit |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
one click instead of having to open my passwords file. |
| 22:10 |
Menche |
someone else has connected successfully to the public one, though |
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| 22:10 |
Menche |
unrelated: leveldb seems noticably faster |
| 22:10 |
proller |
12930 respawns on Sky server ;) |
| 22:12 |
Menche |
now that i brought the old world up, i remember why i wanted to reset it |
| 22:16 |
* Prestotron562 |
likes refreshing his twitter! |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
Menche: just don't delete it. |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
always keep all the old bits and pieces, you never know when you might need something from the old map. |
| 22:26 |
Jordach |
proller, http://i.imgur.com/fbQZXuj.png |
| 22:27 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, hello |
| 22:27 |
Jordach |
how's the op? |
| 22:27 |
proller |
Prestotron562, its reduces your noobity? |
| 22:27 |
proller |
Jordach, what? |
| 22:27 |
Peacock |
evergreen's a woman now :P |
| 22:28 |
Jordach |
proller, BSD is apparently most paranoid |
| 22:28 |
proller |
i'm use freebdsm |
| 22:30 |
Evergreen |
Jordach: Sorry, for delayed response, it went fine |
| 22:30 |
Jordach |
yay |
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Jordach |
hello paramat |
| 22:37 |
paramat |
hi ;) |
| 22:39 |
Jordach |
Peacock, i think this guy is looking for hacks https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110215#p110215 |
| 22:40 |
Jordach |
paramat, i just had a render idea: me and you pimping out a tractor |
| 22:40 |
paramat |
plol |
| 22:40 |
Jordach |
and render part of the A140 |
| 22:41 |
paramat |
so i should make a paramat player skin ... it has to be done |
| 22:41 |
Jordach |
paramat, can you use this skin as a base |
| 22:41 |
Jordach |
http://sfan5.dyndns.org/upload/data/sam2.png |
| 22:42 |
Jordach |
then it works fine in minetest as well as my render models |
| 22:43 |
paramat |
ah yes thats the standard template, i have already made one or two ... |
| 22:43 |
Jordach |
paramat, see the pink and white pixels? they control the mouth and teeth |
| 22:44 |
paramat |
omg thats new to me |
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Jordach |
paramat, they only work in my own models however |
| 22:45 |
paramat |
you just switch between the pixels to make it talk?# |
| 22:45 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/cave-render/ |
| 22:45 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/339/untitled.png <- bigger |
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| 22:46 |
paramat |
ah that is generated from a standard skin template? |
| 22:46 |
Jordach |
paramat, bone controlled |
| 22:46 |
Peacock |
jordach thats the post i was talking about earlier :P |
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Peacock |
weird, i think my server restarted on its own lol |
| 22:48 |
* paramat |
reads logs |
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VanessaE |
*looks at ferns mod* |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
do I add this to my server? :) |
| 22:57 |
NekoGloopMkII |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HkAM8g7kA |
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| 23:00 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, merge my mother fucking capes |
| 23:00 |
Jordach |
i don't give two fucks about wield3d |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
capes? |
| 23:00 |
Jordach |
minetest_game pull 201 |
| 23:01 |
Jordach |
(hint, the cape is part of the actual player skin, no extra textures needed) |
| 23:01 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBCBxHDcHvw |
| 23:02 |
Jordach |
^ provided by blockment |
| 23:02 |
Jordach |
-t |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
*reads* |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
the cape in the skin file is a MC standard? |
| 23:03 |
Jordach |
nope, my own |
| 23:03 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 23:03 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109912#p109912 |
| 23:03 |
Jordach |
^ how you do it |
| 23:03 |
VanessaE |
bug someone who can actually merge it :-) |
| 23:03 |
* Jordach |
pokes PilzAdam |
| 23:03 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:04 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:04 |
Jordach |
cAPS lOCK mUCH |
| 23:04 |
VanessaE |
all I could do is put it on my server, but I happen to like stu's models so :P |
| 23:04 |
VanessaE |
get PilzAdam to merge and stu to update his models accordingly :P |
| 23:04 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, already pm'd stu about the pull |
| 23:04 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
the capes are just decorative, or will they have some future use? |
| 23:06 |
Jordach |
decorative |
| 23:06 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:07 |
Jordach |
^ doesnt understand how the engine works |
| 23:07 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:09 |
Shadowfire |
If I have more then one version of textures for Minetest... how do I switch between them? |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
put them into separate texture packs and use the texutre pack selector on the main menu |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
texture* |
| 23:12 |
Shadowfire |
is the pack selector and add-on? |
| 23:12 |
proller |
Prestotron562, you cant nothing except flood |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, afaik, Shadowfire isn't using latest git |
| 23:13 |
Jordach |
just remember tha |
| 23:13 |
Jordach |
that* |
| 23:13 |
Shadowfire |
It sez I am using 4.7 |
| 23:13 |
Jordach |
remember the damn 0. |
| 23:13 |
Shadowfire |
??? |
| 23:13 |
Jordach |
the current version is 0.4.7 |
| 23:14 |
Peacock |
weird, i uncheck public, and people still login to my test map lol |
| 23:14 |
Shadowfire |
Wow,,,really... you have to be that passionate about the 0???? |
| 23:14 |
Shadowfire |
lol |
| 23:14 |
Shadowfire |
nice |
| 23:14 |
Jordach |
Shadowfire, every dev here likes being concise |
| 23:14 |
jojoa1997 |
Sfan5 here? |
| 23:14 |
Jordach |
nope. |
| 23:14 |
Shadowfire |
I understand... May bad |
| 23:15 |
VanessaE |
4.7 doesn't exist. |
| 23:15 |
Jordach |
^ that too |
| 23:15 |
VanessaE |
it's zero point four point seven |
| 23:15 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:15 |
Peacock |
may bad, june good |
| 23:15 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:15 |
Peacock |
its stardate 000.4.7 |
| 23:15 |
Jordach |
TBM+ supported! |
| 23:15 |
Shadowfire |
Have mercy people ,,, long day ... just got off work... We will all live if I have a brain fart. |
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| 23:16 |
Shadowfire |
Let me fix it... 0.4.7 |
| 23:16 |
Peacock |
you get the version wrong again, and it's chemical castration for you |
| 23:16 |
Shadowfire |
their... is that better :) |
| 23:16 |
Shadowfire |
:P |
| 23:16 |
Jordach |
yes. much better. |
| 23:16 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 23:16 |
Shadowfire |
:) |
| 23:16 |
Shadowfire |
heheheh |
| 23:16 |
Shadowfire |
nice |
| 23:17 |
Shadowfire |
I love guys! :) |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
their? |
| 23:17 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
ARRRGHHHHHH!!!!!! |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 23:17 |
Peacock |
dont start with the grammar, i spotted many mistakes :P |
| 23:17 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
they're is a more correct way to write "there", so their. |
| 23:18 |
VanessaE |
(now I'm just busting on you :) ) |
| 23:18 |
Shadowfire |
Yes,, please don't make me fix my grammer... we will be here all night...:( |
| 23:18 |
Shadowfire |
:)\ |
| 23:18 |
Shadowfire |
;) |
| 23:18 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:18 |
* Peacock |
watches as grammar nazies takes shadowfire to the umschlagplatz |
| 23:19 |
Shadowfire |
lol |
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| 23:19 |
Shadowfire |
NOT THE GRAMMAR NAZIES.... "no soup for YOU!" |
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| 23:20 |
jojoa1997 |
Shadowfire "No soup for YOU!" or "...no soupd for YOU!" :P |
| 23:20 |
Shadowfire |
Ooops... I just realized.. what I said up above,,, That was supposes to be "I love *you* guys!" |
| 23:20 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:20 |
Peacock |
LOL |
| 23:21 |
Shadowfire |
Man I am on a roll tonight of errors... |
| 23:21 |
Peacock |
i wondered about that but didn't want to say anything lol |
| 23:21 |
Shadowfire |
Number 5 is alive!!!!! FORWARD!!!!!forward!!!! |
| 23:21 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:21 |
Shadowfire |
Yes I am extremely possitive that I ment "I love you guys" :) |
| 23:22 |
Peacock |
only if they're packing XD |
| 23:22 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:22 |
Shadowfire |
Gotcha! :) |
| 23:22 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:23 |
Peacock |
presto you sure youre not wanking his chain? XD |
| 23:23 |
Shadowfire |
Now that I have made every one laugh and smile at my expense. How is everyone? |
| 23:23 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:23 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:24 |
Shadowfire |
kewl |
| 23:24 |
jojoa1997 |
COOL! |
| 23:24 |
Peacock |
thats a new one: [ServerThread]: Server: A mismatched client tried to connect |
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| 23:24 |
Shadowfire |
So looks like I will be pacman'ing the git on Arch... woohoo! |
| 23:24 |
Peacock |
does aur actually work now? |
| 23:24 |
Shadowfire |
I will be letting you know shortly :) |
| 23:25 |
Peacock |
i gave up on archbang when packer stopped working lol |
| 23:26 |
Peacock |
#! is awesome but missing shit in the repos because of the libretards is also giving me second thoughts |
| 23:31 |
Peacock |
so, does aur work? lol |
| 23:32 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:34 |
proller |
lol, you keep noobing |
| 23:34 |
Shadowfire |
Sorry.. was check info on repos .. going to try it now |
| 23:35 |
Shadowfire |
hmmm there is minetest-delta-git 20110710-2 and |
| 23:35 |
Shadowfire |
minetest-git 20130623.f960c3b-1 |
| 23:35 |
Shadowfire |
and |
| 23:36 |
Shadowfire |
minetest-jachoo-git |
| 23:36 |
Shadowfire |
and |
| 23:36 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 23:36 |
Shadowfire |
minetestpp 20120409-1 |
| 23:36 |
proller |
Prestotron562, all they stupid as you? |
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Evergreen |
Oh, be nice proller |
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Peacock |
lol |
| 23:37 |
Evergreen |
Hi Wuzzy |
| 23:37 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:37 |
proller |
Prestotron562, or you buy bots to amaze us? |
| 23:38 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:38 |
Peacock |
cat fight! |
| 23:38 |
proller |
like 0.1$ per folower = 15$ - your daily icecream money? |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
hey, knock it off |
| 23:38 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:39 |
proller |
you first. |
| 23:39 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 23:39 |
Shadowfire |
Wowzers! Everyone was so calm,,, then came the storm, |
| 23:40 |
jojoa1997 |
... |
| 23:41 |
Prestotron562 |
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jojoa1997 |
_-~___-~___-~___-~``~__-~``~__-~``~__-~``~__~`````````````````````````````````````````` |
| 23:42 |
proller |
Prestotron562, you miss. eleven. |
| 23:42 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
both of you stop it. |
| 23:42 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:43 |
Evergreen |
Prestotron562: don't make fun of proller, he really knows what he is doing |
| 23:43 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 23:43 |
Shadowfire |
Okey-Dokey gents... hows about everyone put away their guns... lest we have real troubles... |
| 23:43 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:44 |
Evergreen |
Alright, let's just forget this conversation. |
| 23:44 |
jojoa1997 |
um why does no one care abvout my feelings? |
| 23:44 |
jojoa1997 |
*about |
| 23:44 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:45 |
jojoa1997 |
NO |
| 23:45 |
Shadowfire |
I care Jojoa1997... VanessaE will give you a hug now. ;) |
| 23:45 |
jojoa1997 |
How about everyon becomes friends? |
| 23:45 |
proller |
i dont know coding and software, hardware, etc. |
| 23:45 |
jojoa1997 |
lol |
| 23:45 |
* Prestotron562 |
hugs Vanessa |
| 23:45 |
Shadowfire |
lol |
| 23:45 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:45 |
proller |
i know beer and smoke. and vodka. |
| 23:46 |
Prestotron562 |
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jojoa1997 |
Shadowfire i like how you offer up VanessaE to comfort me on your behalf |
| 23:46 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:46 |
jojoa1997 |
what if you are prescrinljkhfdgdf |
| 23:46 |
Shadowfire |
grin... hey if it works.. let not knock it :) |
| 23:46 |
proller |
Prestotron562, no. in game im only grief, better than Calinou |
| 23:47 |
jojoa1997 |
i greif all the time |
| 23:47 |
jojoa1997 |
... |
| 23:47 |
proller |
Prestotron562, no problem with light drugs. try it. |
| 23:47 |
jojoa1997 |
in minecraft on AMPLIFIED biomes |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
Calinou once masterfully griefed sky hardcore |
| 23:47 |
* jojoa1997 |
calls the police |
| 23:47 |
jojoa1997 |
how |
| 23:47 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:47 |
* VanessaE |
looks at Mossmanikin's grasses mod. Do I add this to my servers? |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
in mother russia, drugs smoke you |
| 23:48 |
jojoa1997 |
Jorach what did Calinou pc user do? |
| 23:48 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, traxie's server? remember that |
| 23:48 |
Shadowfire |
That was not very nice of you VanessaE... taking Op from yourself... you should be ashamed! give it back this very minute! :P |
| 23:48 |
Jordach |
he successfully griefed that entire server |
| 23:49 |
Peacock |
<proller> Prestotron562, no problem with light drugs. try it. |
| 23:49 |
proller |
he destroys 8000+ blocks |
| 23:49 |
Peacock |
shoulda seen the textual tong-lashing i got for enjoying alcohol :P |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 23:49 |
jojoa1997 |
long-lashing? |
| 23:49 |
jojoa1997 |
wow |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
tongue* |
| 23:50 |
Shadowfire |
:) |
| 23:50 |
jojoa1997 |
<proller> he destroys 8000+ blocks |
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Prestotron562 |
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jojoa1997 |
so he used tnt? |
| 23:50 |
Shadowfire |
My minetest git is still building... yeehaw!!!!! |
| 23:50 |
Peacock |
i suspected calinou was a griefer when i had a few players from Nice, France grief my server :p |
| 23:50 |
jojoa1997 |
i am past 13 and have never tried drugs |
| 23:50 |
jojoa1997 |
/ban jojoa1997 |
| 23:50 |
proller |
no, only wood pick |
| 23:50 |
Prestotron562 |
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* Jordach |
often lights up the bong |
| 23:51 |
Peacock |
you shouldn't do drugs at a young age |
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VanessaE |
I've smoked weed..that's about all. |
| 23:51 |
Peacock |
wait until youre 16~18 |
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jojoa1997 |
Peacock you shouldnt do drugs at all! |
| 23:51 |
Shadowfire |
proller could you please pedal faster so my cpu will go faster... your slowing down on the bike.. faster faster please ... thx |
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jojoa1997 |
also Peacock that menas i should do drugs now |
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Prestotron562 |
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Peacock |
well i quit smoking weed but not because i wanted to, the suppliers simply all had bad shit lol |
| 23:51 |
jojoa1997 |
...if i want to be killed by my parents and thrown into jail |
| 23:52 |
VanessaE |
you don't go to jail for smoking up, you go for selling/growing. |
| 23:52 |
Peacock |
you cant get thrown into jail for a little weed |
| 23:52 |
VanessaE |
(generally) |
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jojoa1997 |
Prestotron562 i am two out of three |
| 23:52 |
Peacock |
vanessa you'd be surprised :P |
| 23:52 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE you can |
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jojoa1997 |
if you have it |
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Prestotron562 |
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* jojoa1997 |
doesnt want a record |
| 23:52 |
Jordach |
Fun fact: Concrete supported |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
when i was 17, i got "caught" a few times by cops rolling joints in parks and bus stops, they never did a thing |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
you can, yes, except if you live in Colorado or Washington ;) |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
i didn't bullshit the cops either though, so that must have scored me a few points |
| 23:53 |
* Prestotron562 |
goes to a coding school in Lincoln, Rhode Island |
| 23:53 |
Shadowfire |
kewl |
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* jojoa1997 |
stalks Prestotron562 |
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VanessaE |
Peacock: I think cops are starting to get tired of enforcing the bullshit laws |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
"what you doing?" "rolling a joint" "where you gonna smoke it?" "i thought we'd walk around" cop says good night and goes on with his duties |
| 23:54 |
VanessaE |
hence most won't bug you anymore over a couple of doobies. |
| 23:54 |
* Prestotron562 |
stares at jojoa1997 |
| 23:54 |
jojoa1997 |
Prestotron 562 what does the 562 mean? |
| 23:54 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:54 |
* jojoa1997 |
stares at Prestotron562(Mr. Longest name ever for typing) |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
its only when civies start getting agressive with cops that they use whatever reason to take you down to the station |
| 23:54 |
Shadowfire |
5 years 6 days and 2 months .... |
| 23:55 |
Prestotron562 |
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Peacock |
vanessae well i think cops have alot more on their plates than a few stoners lol |
| 23:55 |
Shadowfire |
worth of a story right? |
| 23:55 |
jojoa1997 |
the day he was thrown into jail for growing weed |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: exactly my poiny. |
| 23:55 |
Prestotron562 |
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VanessaE |
point* |
| 23:55 |
Evergreen |
jojoa1997: Just press tab, and it should auto complete the name for you |
| 23:55 |
jojoa1997 |
Prestotron562, |
| 23:55 |
jojoa1997 |
Evergreen, |
| 23:55 |
Prestotron562 |
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jojoa1997 |
jojoa1997, |
| 23:56 |
Shadowfire |
what is a poiny?? VanessaE ;) |
| 23:56 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:56 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
Shadowfire: a pointy pony? :) |
| 23:56 |
jojoa1997 |
lol |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
isn't that a unicorn? |
| 23:56 |
Shadowfire |
I want one! |
| 23:56 |
jojoa1997 |
what does typing V tehn pressing TAB do? |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
fine but you cant fuck it |
| 23:56 |
jojoa1997 |
PilzAdam, |
| 23:56 |
jojoa1997 |
Peacock, |
| 23:56 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:57 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 23:57 |
Peacock |
(the unicorn, not PA)_ |
| 23:57 |
jojoa1997 |
Prestotron562, I think of testosterone when i read you name |
| 23:57 |
Shadowfire |
Peacock: Well I certianly wouldn't want a unicorn for that reason.. but yaeh ok,,, |
| 23:57 |
proller |
Prestotron562, spent another 3$ for bots? |
| 23:57 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:57 |
Peacock |
the sheep mob might be more useful to you for that :P |
| 23:57 |
jojoa1997 |
cause it sounds like that |
| 23:57 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:58 |
Peacock |
testosterone? when i read his name i think prostates |
| 23:58 |
Shadowfire |
Duh!!!! Broke it!!!!! Fix it!!!! Mr Peacock |
| 23:58 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:58 |
Peacock |
like "Prostatetron" lol |
| 23:58 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:58 |
Peacock |
then i think about doctors |
| 23:58 |
jojoa1997 |
i sound your name like Pre-sto-dtor-on-562 |
| 23:58 |
Shadowfire |
that's *doh!!! |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
i still wont let them do *that* exam |
| 23:58 |
Shadowfire |
not duh |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
heck i wont even let anyone wag a finger in my face, nevermind... |
| 23:59 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
proller, Prestotron562, stop it. |
| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
take your argument to /msg or email or something. |
| 23:59 |
Shadowfire |
alright Mr. Peacock,, now turn your head to the right and cough,,, |
