| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Vazon |
Miner i need your help im lost |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/yyFLubN.png |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 00:03 |
Jordach |
blockband :P |
| 00:03 |
SegFault22 |
What is :P ? |
| 00:04 |
Jordach |
SegFault22, that image |
| 00:04 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i'm going to be rendering 300+ player models |
| 00:04 |
SegFault22 |
No, what is the meaning of :P ? |
| 00:04 |
Jordach |
SegFault22, close enough to derp |
| 00:05 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/KbsKkAB.png look at a certain name ;) |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
heh |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
its still 2 male vs. 1 female name |
| 00:05 |
Jordach |
i was thinking of a name, BlockBand, more cheesy of a pun |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i merged the name to shut you up :) |
| 00:07 |
Jordach |
btw, i finished the mystery render about 4 days ago |
| 00:07 |
Jordach |
(it is exactly four days ago :O ) |
| 00:08 |
Jordach |
btw, we might be going back in time with a time machine :D |
| 00:08 |
Miner_48er |
ok |
| 00:09 |
Miner_48er |
everything ready? |
| 00:09 |
Vazon |
Yes i guess |
| 00:10 |
Vazon |
So all we need is for you to put in the file Jordach made for us, btw thank you very much Jordach for the file. :) |
| 00:10 |
Jordach |
Vazon, no problem |
| 00:11 |
Vazon |
:) |
| 00:12 |
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| 00:12 |
Miner_48er |
ok file changed |
| 00:13 |
Vazon |
Ok so that sould be it |
| 00:13 |
SegFault22 |
What mods are you using? |
| 00:14 |
Vazon |
Money beds node protection moreblocks homedecor ummm that maby all that we have for now |
| 00:14 |
Vazon |
O and locks |
| 00:14 |
Vazon |
and unifited inventory and thats it |
| 00:15 |
Miner_48er |
any suggestions? |
| 00:15 |
SegFault22 |
Suggestion: MoreOres |
| 00:15 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 00:15 |
SegFault22 |
And mesecons (disable the movestone, it lags horridly) |
| 00:15 |
Vazon |
how long till it shows on the list? |
| 00:15 |
Vazon |
disable what? |
| 00:16 |
SegFault22 |
And mesecons (disable the movestone, it lags horridly) |
| 00:16 |
Vazon |
what is movestone? |
| 00:16 |
Vazon |
I have never hered of it |
| 00:17 |
SegFault22 |
Suggested mesecons mod. Movestone is a stone that moves along a mesecon strip. It can crash/lag pretty bad, so disable it if you use Mesecons in the future |
| 00:17 |
Vazon |
o ok thanks |
| 00:17 |
Vazon |
for the info |
| 00:18 |
SegFault22 |
Could you install moreores too? Most of the popular servers use it, and it adds variety to mining. |
| 00:18 |
Vazon |
Yes we will i will do that now why do you want to join? |
| 00:18 |
SegFault22 |
Yes. I want to be part of the community. |
| 00:19 |
Vazon |
Ok cool we need a few active players |
| 00:19 |
Vazon |
what about the technic mod i here it has a ton of lag tho? |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
hear* |
| 00:19 |
SegFault22 |
It does lag extensively sometimes, especially where there are lots of cables/machines |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
and it doesn't lag as far as I know |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
works okay on my server |
| 00:20 |
Vazon |
Ok i may install that later i will take a poll on the mods people think we should add |
| 00:20 |
SegFault22 |
Cool. |
| 00:20 |
Vazon |
Yep |
| 00:21 |
SegFault22 |
I'll try to join the server now. |
| 00:21 |
Vazon |
Well its not up idk why we added the file we was told to add |
| 00:21 |
Vazon |
unless you see it |
| 00:21 |
SegFault22 |
Have you started the server yet? |
| 00:22 |
Vazon |
how do i start it? |
| 00:22 |
SegFault22 |
uh... just a sec... |
| 00:22 |
Vazon |
Btw we have a messed up spawn at the moment you start in a water fall XD |
| 00:23 |
SegFault22 |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server has the information. I can not relay it all here. |
| 00:23 |
Vazon |
ok |
| 00:23 |
Vazon |
Hold on let me finish installing moreores |
| 00:24 |
SegFault22 |
okay. |
| 00:24 |
Vazon |
Ok that is done lets try to start it |
| 00:26 |
SegFault22 |
uhm, I can not connect. Have you done port forwarding? |
| 00:27 |
Vazon |
Yes |
| 00:27 |
Vazon |
We did that earlyer |
| 00:27 |
* NekoGloop |
bites VanessaE |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
ow |
| 00:27 |
SegFault22 |
good. What is the IP/port, again? |
| 00:27 |
Vazon |
well that wiki failed |
| 00:27 |
Vazon |
o the ip |
| 00:28 |
SegFault22 |
How did it fail? |
| 00:28 |
Vazon |
Cuase it says that isnt a correct function so yea a fail |
| 00:28 |
Vazon |
75.131.40.131 |
| 00:29 |
SegFault22 |
have you followed all of the steps at the proper section for your OS? |
| 00:29 |
Vazon |
Idk heck with it |
| 00:29 |
SegFault22 |
Are you using Windows? |
| 00:30 |
Vazon |
Yes |
| 00:30 |
Miner_48er |
yes |
| 00:30 |
Vazon |
XD Miner u creep |
| 00:30 |
SegFault22 |
okay. then have you done the step that says ''Open command prompt by going in the Minetest installation folder, then in the "bin" folder, hold Shift, do a right click on a empty file (not on minetest.exe), click "Open command window here". '' |
| 00:30 |
Vazon |
Yes |
| 00:30 |
SegFault22 |
and what happened? |
| 00:30 |
Vazon |
It told me that is a wrong function |
| 00:31 |
SegFault22 |
... |
| 00:32 |
Vazon |
Yep |
| 00:32 |
Vazon |
Miner you try |
| 00:32 |
Menche |
did you get a black command window? |
| 00:34 |
SegFault22 |
the popular kids - er, I mean, server owners, use some kind of automatc script to start/keep up their servers. It's a secret about what it is/does exactly, and it is impossible to get it, so that th minetest community can preserve the select few popular servers they want. |
| 00:35 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Sort modlist alphabetically b94f18298d 2013-08-15T17:09:45-07:00 http://git.io/m5ho6Q |
| 00:35 |
Menche |
lol what? i think the server owners write their own script if they use one |
| 00:35 |
Menche |
i wrote the one i use |
| 00:36 |
Menche |
it won't work on Windows; it uses cron |
| 00:36 |
SegFault22 |
See what I mean, Vazon? |
| 00:36 |
Menche |
it's not exactly a secret |
| 00:37 |
SegFault22 |
It would be better if there was more support for making a server, rather than just for joining one... |
| 00:38 |
Menche |
you don't *have* to use the command window to make a server; you can do it directly from minetest |
| 00:38 |
Menche |
does your version have a "server" tab at the top? |
| 00:39 |
SegFault22 |
Yes, but that makes there be a client that must be connected constantly, and if it disconnects, the server shuts down simultaneously. Nobody wants to have to have a client running, eating CPU power, just to keep the server up 24/7... |
| 00:40 |
Vazon |
Ok miner did that cmd thing now what? |
| 00:40 |
Menche |
type "minetest.exe --server" |
| 00:40 |
Vazon |
we are passed that part we are done with that |
| 00:40 |
Menche |
what happened? |
| 00:41 |
Menche |
it should have printed out "Minetest" in big ASCII art block letters |
| 00:41 |
Menche |
and said something like "listening on port 30000" |
| 00:41 |
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| 00:41 |
Vazon |
we opened the server page and it said annocing it to minetest servers and then nothing happene |
| 00:41 |
Menche |
does it show up on the server page? can players join it? |
| 00:42 |
Vazon |
No that is the problem |
| 00:42 |
Menche |
to see if the server is running, start a client on the same machine and connect to 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:43 |
Vazon |
O yes i no that |
| 00:43 |
Menche |
and does it work? |
| 00:43 |
Vazon |
It used to but now it doesnt |
| 00:44 |
Menche |
the command in the command window is still running? you don't see a prompt? |
| 00:45 |
Vazon |
Now it works |
| 00:46 |
SegFault22 |
Attempting to connect... |
| 00:46 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 00:47 |
Vazon |
are you on yet? |
| 00:48 |
SegFault22 |
attempt failed. Can not connect, because the ''connecting to server...'' stays up indefinitely. Also the server is not in the in-client list |
| 00:48 |
Vazon |
Yep see idk whats goin on |
| 00:49 |
SegFault22 |
It should be working... |
| 00:49 |
SegFault22 |
What's the port, again? |
| 00:49 |
Miner_48er |
30000 |
| 00:50 |
Vazon |
miner its 3000 |
| 00:50 |
SegFault22 |
Using the IP and that port, I can not connect. Get Miner_48er to try. |
| 00:50 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Remove debug output 1e4e64f831 2013-08-15T17:48:50-07:00 http://git.io/yoiVXQ |
| 00:51 |
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| 00:52 |
Vazon |
they coud make this just a bit easyer |
| 00:52 |
Menche |
can you connect to 127.0.0.1 from the same machine? |
| 00:52 |
SegFault22 |
You'd think they could... instead of making it more like Minecraft -.- |
| 00:54 |
Miner_48er |
ok the config had the wrong port |
| 00:54 |
Vazon |
Yes but now it doenst work anymore |
| 00:55 |
Menche |
is the command in the cmd window still running? |
| 00:57 |
Vazon |
Ok now its working |
| 00:57 |
Peacock |
the command in the command in the command? |
| 00:57 |
Vazon |
what da what? |
| 00:58 |
khonkhortisan |
is the cmd in the command window still running? |
| 00:58 |
Peacock |
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22718900.jpg |
| 00:58 |
Vazon |
No |
| 01:00 |
SegFault22 |
Well, I'm going over to a server. Chattering all day is boring, and I have yet to contact ecube after repeated attempts. |
| 01:00 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 01:01 |
Vazon |
Miner are you still there? |
| 01:02 |
Miner_48er |
yes |
| 01:02 |
Vazon |
well you are free to try anything you like to get it up but i have chores and homework to do ok so i may not be back on till late or tomorrow ok |
| 01:02 |
Miner_48er |
ok |
| 01:04 |
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| 01:07 |
SegFault22 |
Just too boring... |
| 01:07 |
SegFault22 |
No servers at all that have good community, are survival, have enough people online, and are english (with all of those applying) |
| 01:08 |
Menche |
i tried a few; one was griefed to pieces, on was full of empty-but-protected land, and one was unplayably laggy |
| 01:08 |
Menche |
gave up after the third |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 01:12 |
Vazon |
I hope Mine and Miners will interest you guys but firstwe have to get the dang think up XD |
| 01:12 |
SegFault22 |
We need a better community,... There's much room for improvement. For a start, we could make everything seem more ''serious'', so that ''u ur i r'' slang is not used often, and more inteligent people may join the community; thus making griefers have less of a place in the community. |
| 01:13 |
Vazon |
Xiong has been teaching me to use more proper english so i try |
| 01:14 |
Vazon |
well brb miner is working on things |
| 01:18 |
kaeza |
There's a fail in the logic here |
| 01:18 |
SegFault22 |
Details? |
| 01:20 |
kaeza |
first you tell that people keep their "scripts to make the servers" secret because they are too elitist, then you say we should only allow "more intelligent people" here |
| 01:20 |
kaeza |
ur logic makes no sense :P |
| 01:21 |
Menche |
nobody's asked for my server start scripts :P |
| 01:21 |
Menche |
and it won't work on windows anyways |
| 01:21 |
SegFault22 |
There's lots of things that need to be changed to make the community better. One of those is offering up an example of such automatic scripts, to allow more variety in servers |
| 01:22 |
kaeza |
there are no "automatic scripts" |
| 01:22 |
Menche |
i use a script in a crontab to automate starting my server |
| 01:22 |
SegFault22 |
-.- Scripts that keep the server UP automatically. Not automatically executed |
| 01:22 |
Menche |
does windows have anything equivalent to cron? |
| 01:23 |
Miner_48er |
vazon it's up but not showing on the list |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
all you need to know is some shell/batch scripting |
| 01:23 |
Vazon |
Well ok maby it needs to get people on it for it to show |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
Menche, I'm pretty sure there is |
| 01:23 |
Vazon |
How do i get on? |
| 01:23 |
SegFault22 |
Most minetesters don't even know shell/batch, and many of them use Windows. |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
or there used to be on Win98 at least |
| 01:23 |
PilzAdam |
SegFault22, have you asked someone to get his script and he refused to give it to you? |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
Miner_48er, have you set server_name, server_description, server_address, and server_url? |
| 01:24 |
Miner_48er |
idk |
| 01:24 |
Vazon |
Yea we have no idea |
| 01:24 |
Miner_48er |
i didn't write that script |
| 01:24 |
SegFault22 |
Nope, as I don't run a server yet. But when I do, that will happen, unless an example of such scripts is put on the making-a-serfer pakge of the wiki |
| 01:25 |
Menche |
you should set at least server_url and port |
| 01:25 |
Menche |
(minetest.conf) |
| 01:25 |
PilzAdam |
SegFault22, so, you assume that people will hide it from you |
| 01:25 |
Menche |
*server_address; server_url is optional iirc |
| 01:25 |
SegFault22 |
Nope. I just say that it would be better if people actually knew about it, via the wiki. |
| 01:26 |
Vazon |
localhost? |
| 01:26 |
SegFault22 |
Rather than half-covering it up, and never telling of it unless someone happens to know what a script is and asks for one... |
| 01:26 |
PilzAdam |
so should we also add an tutorial about how to edit a text file? since people have problems with editing minetest.conf |
| 01:27 |
Menche |
the majority of servers run on linux, so there probably aren't many server batch files |
| 01:27 |
Vazon |
Sorry i do not use linux so yea |
| 01:27 |
preludelinux |
good evening everyone |
| 01:28 |
SegFault22 |
If that is so needed. Some people don't see that the minetest.conf.example file is a .example file, and just see a ''minetest'' and ''minetest.conf'', so they click ''minetest.conf(.example)'' |
| 01:28 |
Menche |
because windoze hides random file extensions |
| 01:28 |
Miner_48er |
I use a hybrid windows with a linux cmdline |
| 01:28 |
PilzAdam |
SegFault22, the point is, we are not here to teach people how to use their OS |
| 01:28 |
Menche |
mingw msys? cygwin? |
| 01:28 |
Miner_48er |
cygwin |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
SegFault22, the problem with minetest.conf and .example is the fact that windows just removes the extention from the filename |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
its not a problem of Minetest, or any other game |
| 01:29 |
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| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
so it is offtopic in a Minetest wiki |
| 01:29 |
SegFault22 |
Some OS's are made to cover up the details of programming/etc., so even if they know how to use their OS, the may still have trouble with stuff like the .conf file -.- |
| 01:29 |
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| 01:29 |
khonkhortisan |
SegFault22, if they didn't hide file extensions, that wouldn't happen. It's their fault for not changing the setting. |
| 01:29 |
Miner_48er |
75.131.40.131 30000 Vazon's server |
| 01:29 |
Menche |
and that kind of OS isn't the best for a server |
| 01:30 |
Menche |
!up 75.131.40.131 |
| 01:30 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 is up (666ms) |
| 01:30 |
Menche |
^^ |
| 01:30 |
Vazon |
Wait it is Wooo |
| 01:30 |
SegFault22 |
:O |
| 01:30 |
Miner_48er |
127 insted of 172 |
| 01:30 |
SegFault22 |
please ping it again. I don't like that number. |
| 01:31 |
khonkhortisan |
!up 75.131.40.131 |
| 01:31 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 is up (284ms) |
| 01:31 |
SegFault22 |
Thank you! :D |
| 01:31 |
preludelinux |
lol |
| 01:31 |
SegFault22 |
I wil lconnect now. |
| 01:31 |
Menche |
lol |
| 01:31 |
Menche |
the ping of the beast |
| 01:31 |
Menche |
when a server gets too many griefers, the ping becomes 666ms... |
| 01:32 |
kaeza |
inb4 LandMine joins the server :P |
| 01:32 |
kaeza |
crap |
| 01:32 |
Menche |
haven't seen that guy around for a while |
| 01:32 |
kaeza |
I said his name out loud |
| 01:32 |
Menche |
which is a good thing |
| 01:32 |
Vazon |
Hay i cant get on ? |
| 01:32 |
Menche |
just don't say it 3 times; that summons him |
| 01:33 |
Miner_48er |
localhost 30000 |
| 01:33 |
Vazon |
o ok |
| 01:33 |
khonkhortisan |
Now two people will say it for the second time, leading to the magic three-times summon |
| 01:33 |
Menche |
localhost:30000 is the greatest server |
| 01:33 |
Menche |
lol |
| 01:33 |
Vazon |
How is it so great? |
| 01:33 |
khonkhortisan |
!up localhost:30000 |
| 01:33 |
MinetestBot |
khonkhortisan: Invalid Address |
| 01:33 |
Miner_48er |
no lag |
| 01:33 |
kaeza |
OMG they have my mods! |
| 01:33 |
Vazon |
Yes we do |
| 01:33 |
Menche |
(that's your own server) |
| 01:34 |
Vazon |
Omg i cant get on XD |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
minetestbot doesn't run one |
| 01:34 |
Menche |
!up 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:34 |
MinetestBot |
127.0.0.1:30000 is up (101ms) |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
| 01:34 |
kaeza |
yes he does :P |
| 01:34 |
Menche |
wait, MinetestBot is on a server machine? |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
set up your /etc/hostnames! |
| 01:34 |
kaeza |
*she |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
*hosts |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
!description 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:35 |
Menche |
!up 5.231.56.127 |
| 01:35 |
MinetestBot |
5.231.56.127:30000 is up (100ms) |
| 01:35 |
Menche |
(that's MinetestBot's address from whois) |
| 01:35 |
PilzAdam |
thats minetest.ru |
| 01:35 |
Menche |
uh |
| 01:35 |
Menche |
PING minetest.ru (176.9.122.10) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 01:36 |
Menche |
multiple addresses? |
| 01:39 |
PilzAdam |
it could be that sfan5 hosts MinetestBot at his PC again |
| 01:39 |
PilzAdam |
but dunno |
| 01:39 |
Tesseract |
What is the proper way to get an object/entity's name? get_entity_name() is depreciated. |
| 01:39 |
Menche |
yeah, that address is the same as sfan's server |
| 01:40 |
PilzAdam |
Tesseract, obj:get_luaentity().name |
| 01:40 |
Tesseract |
PilzAdam: That was nil last I tried... |
| 01:41 |
PilzAdam |
then you did it wrong |
| 01:41 |
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| 01:44 |
Miner_48er |
Tesseract could you show us the basics of your mod? |
| 01:44 |
* NekoGloop |
tosses a cookie in the general direction of ShadowBot |
| 01:46 |
PilzAdam |
!op |
| 01:46 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Throw-kittens-at-NekoGloop-day |
| 01:46 |
PilzAdam |
!deop |
| 01:46 |
* PilzAdam |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
| 01:46 |
* NekoGloop |
catches it and hugses it~ |
| 01:47 |
Tesseract |
Miner_48er: What do you mean? |
| 01:47 |
* Menche |
throws tuna at NekoGloop and opens the kitten cages |
| 01:47 |
* NekoGloop |
eats the tuna and hugs all the kittenses |
| 01:47 |
Miner_48er |
the basics |
| 01:49 |
Tesseract |
Miner_48er: What mod? |
| 01:49 |
Miner_48er |
found the cmds |
| 01:49 |
Miner_48er |
thx area |
| 01:50 |
Tesseract |
/area_pos set <punch nodes at edges> /set_owner <playerName> <areaName> |
| 01:52 |
Miner_48er |
thx |
| 01:53 |
SegFault22 |
Is MoreOres by Calinou up-to-date for 0.4.7? |
| 02:00 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
SegFault22, it is |
| 02:05 |
SegFault22 |
? |
| 02:06 |
SegFault22 |
Ah, good |
| 02:06 |
SegFault22 |
thank you. |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
np |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
It's got overlap with default though |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
And I'm pretty sure you can't hurt anything with its items |
| 02:09 |
SegFault22 |
How did the devs get the idea of copper + iron = bronze, when the first thing pulled up in google for bronze details how it's an alloy of copper and tin?... |
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SegFault22 |
were they just too lazy to add tin? |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam just said "not on MY game!" |
| 02:15 |
SegFault22 |
why? that doesen't even make sense |
| 02:15 |
SegFault22 |
doesn't |
| 02:17 |
kahrl |
"Bronze is an alloy consisting primarily of copper, usually with tin as the main additive" |
| 02:21 |
SegFault22 |
but still, iron =/= copper |
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Miner_48er |
!up 75.131.40.131:30000 |
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MinetestBot |
Miner_48er: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' |
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Miner_48er |
!up 75.131.40.131 30000 |
| 02:30 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down |
| 02:35 |
Miner_48er |
!up 75.131.40.131 30000 |
| 02:35 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down |
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| 02:38 |
SegFault22 |
What happened to the server, miner_48er? |
| 02:38 |
Miner_48er |
idk |
| 02:38 |
SegFault22 |
Do you know ecube? |
| 02:39 |
Miner_48er |
a bit |
| 02:39 |
SegFault22 |
Well, I have been trying to contact him for two days now... |
| 02:40 |
SegFault22 |
IRC, email... still no response.. |
| 02:46 |
SegFault22 |
I have gotten help from many people here, to try to contact him,... and though they were very helpful, it seems that his client is a zombie - auto-connecting when it goes offline, but he isn't ''at the keyboard''... |
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SegFault22 |
I don't want to spam him, trying to get his attention, elthough that is ''kinda'' what I did last time... |
| 02:48 |
SegFault22 |
although* |
| 02:50 |
SegFault22 |
So, do you have any suggestions for contacting him, miner_48er? |
| 02:51 |
Miner_48er |
no did you try what I gave you? |
| 02:52 |
SegFault22 |
Tried all IRC's, email, etc., |
| 02:52 |
SegFault22 |
no teamspeak though, I don't use teamspeak... |
| 02:54 |
Miner_48er |
idk |
| 02:55 |
kahrl |
they have a reality TV show here for finding missing people |
| 02:55 |
kahrl |
you could try that |
| 02:55 |
kahrl |
but you'll have to cry in front of the camera when they find him |
| 02:56 |
SegFault22 |
-.- |
| 02:56 |
Menche |
get his IP from /whois -> use geoip to narrow down possible locations -> search for him in the phonebooks for that area -> go to his house |
| 02:57 |
SegFault22 |
maybe if I don't get a reply in the next 10 minutes... |
| 02:57 |
Menche |
you tried /msg? if he's registered on freenode he should get a msg whenever he's on irc next |
| 02:58 |
SegFault22 |
Good idea! thank you! |
| 02:58 |
Menche |
assuming he's probably not just leaving his irc client on for over a year for no reason whatsoever |
| 03:01 |
Miner_48er |
possible and assuming his client doesn't crash |
| 03:02 |
Menche |
if your registered on freenode, can't you receive a msg when you're logged off? |
| 03:02 |
Menche |
i thought i did once... |
| 03:06 |
SegFault22 |
It won't notify him next time he gets online if, say, he's already online?... |
| 03:07 |
Menche |
not sure |
| 03:07 |
SegFault22 |
I'm usin the web client at webchat.freenode.net, which may have different commands/etc. than other clients,... |
| 03:08 |
SegFault22 |
using* |
| 03:08 |
Menche |
pretty sure /msg works |
| 03:08 |
Menche |
it would tell you if you enter a bad command |
| 03:09 |
SegFault22 |
it works, but it sends the message the same way as if you click the ''query'' tab under the person's name in the client list... |
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* paramat |
is writing the lua voxel manipulator version of moonrealm but needs someone to test it ... ? |
| 03:25 |
SegFault22 |
does it cast shaddows onto the overworld realm? |
| 03:26 |
paramat |
... because i use stable releases and am waiting for 0.4.8 |
| 03:26 |
Menche |
where is it? |
| 03:27 |
Menche |
i always use the latest git |
| 03:27 |
paramat |
SegFault22, no shadows |
| 03:29 |
paramat |
i'll release the untested LVM version in the moonrealm thread soon, it will only be the top 2 chunk layers, the surface, just to see if it works ;) |
| 03:29 |
SegFault22 |
Cool |
| 03:34 |
paramat |
moonrealm is first to tempt Peacock to use it again :D *ping* |
| 03:47 |
SegFault22 |
I really don't like ''spamming'' this channel with attempts to see if anyone can help me find ecube,... but there is nothing else to do that has any significant chance of working... |
| 03:48 |
Menche |
if you've tried /msg and email, i'm out of ideas |
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| 03:50 |
SegFault22 |
tried both -.- |
| 03:50 |
Vazon |
Miner are you there? |
| 03:50 |
Vazon |
Hay guys did you get loged out? |
| 03:51 |
SegFault22 |
The server shut down |
| 03:51 |
Vazon |
omg im sorry well its back up |
| 03:51 |
SegFault22 |
it is, I see :D |
| 03:51 |
Vazon |
:( sorry guys i have to work on that |
| 03:51 |
SegFault22 |
it's fine |
| 03:52 |
Vazon |
Im new to this server owner ship so i have to figure out how to keep it up when i shut my computer |
| 03:53 |
Menche |
power management settings? you have to keep it from going into suspend. |
| 03:53 |
Vazon |
well i shut my computer so it goes in sleep mod |
| 03:54 |
Menche |
yeah. you should be able to make it so it just blanks the screen then. |
| 03:54 |
Vazon |
Ok so how do i fix that then |
| 03:54 |
SegFault22 |
Yeah, disable any feature that shuts down/puts to sleep the computer after X time. |
| 03:54 |
* Menche |
pulls up his windows VM |
| 03:54 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 03:54 |
SegFault22 |
But turn off the monitor to save power. |
| 03:55 |
Vazon |
yea well im running it on my laptop so i can just turn off my monitor |
| 03:56 |
SegFault22 |
you're running a server that's that quick, off of your laptop?... |
| 03:56 |
Vazon |
Ok i made it where it never goes into sleep mode and yes i am :) and this labtop is a piece of crap XD |
| 03:56 |
Menche |
laptops aren't necessarily less powerful than desktops |
| 03:56 |
SegFault22 |
Suggestion: set up a donations system like the landrush server, and use the money to buy better server hardware |
| 03:57 |
Peacock |
paramat i just hope terrain can gen nearly as fast as default mapgen, last time i had to ban stubborn explorers lol |
| 03:57 |
Menche |
my server runs fine on an ancient pentium 4 |
| 03:57 |
Menche |
and used to run on an atom |
| 03:58 |
Vazon |
Ok i may do that as soon as i get my own credit card or debt card and that may be in a few months but this is good for now right? |
| 03:58 |
SegFault22 |
Yes, good for now. |
| 03:58 |
Vazon |
Ok great |
| 03:59 |
Menche |
Vazon, check out these settings: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 |
| 03:59 |
Menche |
if your server is lagging those may improve it |
| 04:00 |
Vazon |
Ok well im getting 11-14 fps right now how about you Seg? |
| 04:00 |
SegFault22 |
not that kind og lag; he's speaking of network latency. |
| 04:00 |
Vazon |
O ok |
| 04:00 |
SegFault22 |
of* |
| 04:01 |
Vazon |
Ok thanks |
| 04:05 |
Vazon |
ok Menche i have more ores turned on but its not working? |
| 04:05 |
SegFault22 |
Enable it in the config section of the world, in the world selection menu |
| 04:05 |
SegFault22 |
then restart the server |
| 04:06 |
Vazon |
Ok did it shut down? |
| 04:06 |
SegFault22 |
I think yes |
| 04:07 |
Vazon |
Ok let me resstart it |
| 04:07 |
Vazon |
there log back in :) |
| 04:07 |
SegFault22 |
k |
| 04:07 |
SegFault22 |
it's online |
| 04:08 |
Vazon |
Yep thats good ok anything else you would like? |
| 04:08 |
SegFault22 |
Not at this time, but in the future, people may want growing papyrus/cacti from the nature mod/pack or something |
| 04:09 |
SegFault22 |
thank you |
| 04:09 |
Vazon |
Cacti and paprus are alreday on |
| 04:09 |
Vazon |
i have seen some growing |
| 04:09 |
SegFault22 |
Oh okay |
| 04:09 |
SegFault22 |
Cool |
| 04:09 |
Vazon |
Yep |
| 04:10 |
paramat |
Peacock, "So, generating map with VoxelManip in pure Lua is only about 2.5x slower than a mapgen in the core, but a whole 45x faster than using set_node for everything." |
| 04:11 |
Vazon |
Btw did notice we have shared stuff like doors and funuses and chests? |
| 04:12 |
SegFault22 |
? |
| 04:12 |
Vazon |
Wait do you not now what that is? |
| 04:12 |
SegFault22 |
no. |
| 04:13 |
Vazon |
how do i tp yu to me? |
| 04:13 |
SegFault22 |
./teleport SegFaulter Vazon |
| 04:15 |
Peacock |
paramat that definately should help things |
| 04:16 |
Peacock |
+ with thin (2 chunk layers) there wont be a ton to generate |
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| 04:38 |
paramat |
LVM version of moonrealm released for testing https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6329&p=7 |
| 04:38 |
Vazon |
Anyone have any good mods that do not cuase massive lag? |
| 04:39 |
paramat |
Nope lol |
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Vazon |
XD |
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SegFault22 |
Vazon |
| 04:41 |
Vazon |
Whats wrong Seg |
| 04:42 |
SegFault22 |
My computer got a huge lagspike of death... |
| 04:42 |
SegFault22 |
I had to shut it down. By unplugging it. |
| 04:42 |
Vazon |
Ok well |
| 04:42 |
Vazon |
does it work now? |
| 04:42 |
SegFault22 |
Either I'm under attack, or I need linux -.- |
| 04:42 |
SegFault22 |
it works now |
| 04:42 |
Vazon |
XD im useing windows |
| 04:43 |
Vazon |
Well is the nature mod a good mod or not it would add a food market to the ecomomy? |
| 04:44 |
SegFault22 |
It adds some food, yes |
| 04:44 |
Vazon |
Ok i will install it now then and it should spawn jungles in new areas so it says |
| 04:44 |
SegFault22 |
Cool |
| 04:44 |
Vazon |
Yep |
| 04:47 |
SegFault22 |
Well, I gotta go afk for a few minutes |
| 04:47 |
SegFault22 |
I'll be back |
| 04:47 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 04:47 |
Vazon |
I have to shut it down |
| 04:55 |
Vazon |
Um ok i had to move the nature mod cuase it doenst work i cant start up the server but now its saying map saving is disabled what does that mean? |
| 04:57 |
SegFault22 |
uh... |
| 04:57 |
SegFault22 |
I don't know... |
| 04:57 |
SegFault22 |
Sorry man. |
| 04:57 |
Vazon |
Its fine it hasnt seemed to mess with anything |
| 04:58 |
SegFault22 |
It might not be saving the map. We'll have to test that by making a small change, then restarting. |
| 04:58 |
Vazon |
Ok i will restart the server |
| 04:59 |
Vazon |
i have to wait im clearing objects |
| 04:59 |
SegFault22 |
okay |
| 05:01 |
Vazon |
ok i restarted the server but it still says that |
| 05:01 |
Vazon |
idk think it matters |
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SegFault22 |
if you made a small change, see if it saved. |
| 05:02 |
Vazon |
Hold on i deleted the nature mod all together |
| 05:03 |
Vazon |
Hmmm it still there |
| 05:03 |
SegFault22 |
No, I eman, an in-world change like breaking a block |
| 05:03 |
SegFault22 |
mean* |
| 05:04 |
Vazon |
Yes i no hold on im looking it up |
| 05:06 |
Vazon |
do you see it? |
| 05:06 |
SegFault22 |
loading |
| 05:06 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 05:06 |
SegFault22 |
See what, now? |
| 05:07 |
Vazon |
Warning map saving is disabled |
| 05:07 |
SegFault22 |
ugh... |
| 05:07 |
Vazon |
I take that as no |
| 05:08 |
SegFault22 |
Did you change the map saving interval in the .conf file, for optimization? |
| 05:08 |
SegFault22 |
(I did see it) |
| 05:08 |
Vazon |
Nope i just moved the nature mod to mods then to removed mods then deleted it thats it |
| 05:09 |
Vazon |
im going to restart it agian |
| 05:09 |
SegFault22 |
I think the nature mod must've harmed your server, and tried to attack me... |
| 05:09 |
Vazon |
hmm yes |
| 05:10 |
SegFault22 |
I suggest that you reinstall the server, like the downgrade to the reccomended 0.4.7, but just put new files for 0.4.7 from minetest.net in the old file's place |
| 05:11 |
SegFault22 |
or ask one of the experts like kahrl or VanessaE |
| 05:11 |
Vazon |
Im using 4.7 |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
zzzz....snnn--x-x-x-xx.. *snork* huh? wha? zzzz |
| 05:12 |
Vazon |
umm i installed the nature mod but it didnt work and know i get Warning:Map Saving is Disabled |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
nature is outdated, don't use it. |
| 05:12 |
Vazon |
Idk what that means or how to fix |
| 05:12 |
SegFault22 |
And my computer got a lag spike of death about the time he installed/unpacked the fles |
| 05:12 |
Vazon |
Im not |
| 05:13 |
SegFault22 |
I had to shut down my computer. By unplugging it. |
| 05:13 |
VanessaE |
I dunno why map saving doesn't work unless it's a permissions issue |
| 05:13 |
Vazon |
well what does it cuase? |
| 05:13 |
SegFault22 |
(I think it's the nature pack, not the mod. the pack is latest I think) |
| 05:13 |
Vazon |
everything stays the same |
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| 05:14 |
VanessaE |
don't unplug your computer to shut it down - that's a sure way to trash your filesystem |
| 05:14 |
VanessaE |
which is probably what happened |
| 05:15 |
Vazon |
But how would that cuase it to apper on my computor to? |
| 05:15 |
Vazon |
Im the server owner not him |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
well in that case, scratch that. |
| 05:15 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 05:16 |
SegFault22 |
Could it be... Landmine?... |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
not likely |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
check your permissions and ownership on the map files |
| 05:16 |
Vazon |
ok where do i find that? |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
dunno, that's a windows thing I guess |
| 05:17 |
* VanessaE |
doesn't use windows. |
| 05:17 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
(in linux, you'd just ls -la the folder) |
| 05:18 |
SegFault22 |
If most of Linux wasn't done by user inout from the terminal, I would change to it. I hate windows. -.- |
| 05:18 |
SegFault22 |
input* |
| 05:18 |
Vazon |
Same here |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
most of it isn't,. |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
95% of what you can do in linux doesn't need the terminal anymore. |
| 05:20 |
SegFault22 |
Well, I tried installing the reccomended build of minetest for linux, in linux, and it did not sdo anything when I would try to start it. |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
besides, you can just learn whatever it is :) |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
recommended build? |
| 05:20 |
SegFault22 |
I made it auto-open on loading of the OS, and it did some weird stuff with random black rectangles and flashing stuff (major error) and I had to shut it down. |
| 05:21 |
SegFault22 |
Like, the one from minetest.net |
| 05:21 |
SegFault22 |
the ''best one for use'', ''reccomended'', ''not as buggy as development builds''. you know,... |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
dev builds generally aren't buggy. |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
no moreso than the 'stable' build |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
don't use stable/release, use a git build. |
| 05:22 |
SegFault22 |
-.- |
| 05:22 |
SegFault22 |
On the downloads area of minetest.net. That release. |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
don't use stable/release, use a git build. |
| 05:23 |
SegFault22 |
You know, when they've added stuff and finally got it wo not crash, the build they publish as ''the release of that version'' |
| 05:23 |
SegFault22 |
to* |
| 05:23 |
Vazon |
Dang it omg yea this sucks |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
it's gonna crash now and again whether it's a dev build or release |
| 05:24 |
SegFault22 |
Well, not as often as the unstable builds. |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
wanna bet? :) |
| 05:24 |
SegFault22 |
Unstabe, being, something still ain't right, or it almost is, etc. |
| 05:25 |
Vazon |
So i dug up a piece of sand then restarted server and it had responded but i still had it in my hand |
| 05:25 |
SegFault22 |
Whatever. It's just the ''OFFICIAL Release of that version'' that is the build they publish as the ''completed version''. |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
incorrect. |
| 05:26 |
SegFault22 |
THAT is what I am speaking of. Well, I used it and it doesn't work. So I uninstalled linux to save hard-drive space. |
| 05:26 |
SegFault22 |
Did you know there's a minetest.net? It has the version(s) I speak of. Here, see for yourself:] http://www.minetest.net/download |
| 05:27 |
SegFault22 |
'']'' was accidental; meant to only put : after ''yourself'' |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
I've been using Linux for more years than I can remember and I never have trouble with dev builds that isn't either my own fault or due to some recent commit (in which case, I can just git reset --hard xxxx to back down to something I know works) |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
but it's your coice |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
choice* |
| 05:29 |
SegFault22 |
Okay, it's kinda like Minecraft. They don't release the DEV-BUILDS as the ''official release'', do they? no, they use those during the development and refinement of the ''stable release'' that they release when everything is fixed. Like, when Celeron55 announces the ''latest version of minetest'', THAT build. |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
I don't play Minecraft |
| 05:30 |
SegFault22 |
I was using it as an example... |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
and that's a commercial product, so it makes sense to stick to releasing "stable" builds |
| 05:30 |
SegFault22 |
... |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
celeron55 isn't who announces "release" builds. |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
he barely has anything to do with the project anymore |
| 05:30 |
Menche |
c55 hasn't been as active lately has he had been before |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
the rest of us discuss it and decide when to release a stable build |
| 05:31 |
Vazon |
Mench do you have any idea how to turn map savigns back on? |
| 05:31 |
Menche |
map saving disabled warning? |
| 05:31 |
Vazon |
Yep |
| 05:31 |
Menche |
it is a problem with a file in your world folder |
| 05:31 |
Vazon |
ok hold on let me get ther |
| 05:31 |
Menche |
map_meta.txt iirc |
| 05:32 |
Menche |
make sure that file exists and is not empty |
| 05:32 |
SegFault22 |
STABLE BUILD. that's what you all call it. not ''the stable build'', but ''stable build''. Well, I used that one, for linux, and it doesn't work at all. So I deleted it to save hard-drive space. |
| 05:32 |
Vazon |
yes i have been there it is empty |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
we try to make "release" builds be not-all-that-broken, but it can't be helped. It's no less broken than a dev build, and not any more stable either. |
| 05:32 |
Menche |
i use the latest dev version all the time |
| 05:33 |
SegFault22 |
I don't care how broken it is. Just when I ran it, it did nothing, although obviously it was working for everyone else. |
| 05:33 |
Vazon |
Menche what do i put inthere to activate it |
| 05:33 |
SegFault22 |
Ubuntu isn't linux, is it? |
| 05:33 |
Menche |
Ubuntu is linux |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
yes, it is. |
| 05:33 |
Menche |
they just don't mention that it is P |
| 05:33 |
Menche |
* :P |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
if it works for everyone else and not you, that would tend to imply that you're doing something wrong :) |
| 05:34 |
Menche |
Vazon: i think if you delete that file, minetest will recreate it |
| 05:34 |
Menche |
however, you may want to write down the seed first |
| 05:34 |
Vazon |
ok i hope it doesnt make it worse |
| 05:34 |
Menche |
so you don't get mapgen glitches (im not sure if it's saved anywhere else) |
| 05:34 |
Menche |
the seed should be displayed when you press F5 |
| 05:35 |
SegFault22 |
WHat is the reccomended ''linux'' to use, then? I want to be able to do stuff that you-all can do with it's magical powers. |
| 05:35 |
Vazon |
well i picked up a sand block and when i restarted the server it had respond but it was in my hand also |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
imho, Xubuntu is your best bet. |
| 05:35 |
Menche |
SegFault22: for a beginner i would recommend Mint |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
Mint is good, too. |
| 05:35 |
Menche |
both of those are based on Ubuntu, so both are pretty friendly to new users |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
which in turn, is based on Debian |
| 05:35 |
SegFault22 |
Mint? cool, thank you for the info. |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
(which I use) |
| 05:36 |
Vazon |
Menche i didnt remake it |
| 05:36 |
Vazon |
it |
| 05:37 |
Menche |
wierd, it did on mine |
| 05:37 |
Vazon |
Wait maby it did i just restarted everything |
| 05:37 |
Menche |
you shut down the server, deleted the file, then started it again? |
| 05:37 |
Vazon |
and it doesnt show now hold on let me check the files |
| 05:37 |
Vazon |
O yea its back thanks so much |
| 05:38 |
Vazon |
ok Seg you can rejoin agian |
| 05:38 |
Menche |
if you didn't save the seed, there will be wierd cliffs on the edges of ungenerated blocks, though |
| 05:38 |
SegFault22 |
ok |
| 05:38 |
Vazon |
save what seed? |
| 05:38 |
SegFault22 |
The world's seed. |
| 05:38 |
Menche |
the map seed; what minetest uses to generate the randomness for the map |
| 05:39 |
SegFault22 |
Random number that is used for map generation stuffs |
| 05:39 |
Vazon |
O well everything looks normal and the same |
| 05:39 |
SegFault22 |
Well, new areas will transition weirdly. Like the stonewalls on the landrush server |
| 05:39 |
Vazon |
Well let me look around |
| 05:40 |
Vazon |
all the stone and everything looks good in new areas |
| 05:41 |
Vazon |
Omg this world is so wierd XD some much gravel spawned above grounda nd random mountains every where |
| 05:42 |
Menche |
a gravel biome? |
| 05:42 |
Vazon |
No just random gravel areas every where XD |
| 05:42 |
SegFault22 |
yeah, that must be a new attempt at a biome -.- |
| 05:43 |
Vazon |
XD it would be a coold biome |
| 05:43 |
Menche |
there is a gravel biome. they are somewhat rare though. |
| 05:43 |
Menche |
and most are fairly small. |
| 05:43 |
Vazon |
Well would you lie to join us? |
| 05:43 |
Vazon |
like |
| 05:43 |
Menche |
address? |
| 05:44 |
Vazon |
75.131.40.131 |
| 05:52 |
SegFault22 |
If only I knew what community he has moved into... |
| 05:52 |
Menche |
ecube? |
| 05:52 |
SegFault22 |
yes -.- |
| 05:52 |
Menche |
his avatar... i believe that is the redeclipse logo? |
| 05:52 |
SegFault22 |
I looked. |
| 05:52 |
Menche |
(a shooter game) |
| 05:52 |
SegFault22 |
Nowhere to be found |
| 05:54 |
Menche |
apparently he contributed to the documentation project |
| 05:54 |
Menche |
looks like he might go by "ClassyRain" too |
| 05:54 |
SegFault22 |
What happened was, I was playing Minecraft for a while (with industrialcraft/gregtech), but I got bored and discovered Widelands. Then I got bored, and wanted to go to minetest. I found the LandRush server, but the people there are... ''non-satisfactory''. So I left, and wanted to make another server very popular, to be more popular than landrush server. So I wanted to ask ecube about if he can still make a server, but he is no |
| 05:55 |
SegFault22 |
ClassyRain? thank you for the info, I didn't see that |
| 05:55 |
Menche |
http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=2337 |
| 05:55 |
Menche |
on the list of contributors it says "ecube (ClassyRain)" |
| 05:55 |
Vazon |
What is eCube? |
| 05:56 |
Menche |
former server admin |
| 05:56 |
Vazon |
o ok |
| 05:57 |
SegFault22 |
All I fing is wsome youtube video of a band? and a bunch of spammed minecraft-servers called ''classy rain''... |
| 05:57 |
SegFault22 |
fins* |
| 05:57 |
SegFault22 |
Find* |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
side note: it's ", not '' |
| 05:59 |
Menche |
you have to sign in to see it, but his redeclipse forum account is here: http://forum.freegamedev.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2284 |
| 05:59 |
SegFault22 |
I see. thank you. |
| 05:59 |
Vazon |
hey XD i for got how to turn on noclip cna u tell me plz |
| 06:00 |
Menche |
on mine it's 'h', forget if i changed it |
| 06:00 |
Vazon |
O thanks it works |
| 06:02 |
SegFault22 |
I'm not authorized to see the list of user profiles (or profiles at all?) -.- |
| 06:03 |
Vazon |
Ok i have my mine walls made |
| 06:04 |
SegFault22 |
Vazon: I suggest that you make an IRC channel for your server. Look up ''Freenode IRC making a channel'', for more info on how to do so/manage a channel. It is more organized and efficient than the Minetest Offtopic Chatboks. |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
SegFault22: " not '' |
| 06:05 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 06:05 |
Menche |
/join ##mychannel |
| 06:05 |
Menche |
creates a new channel |
| 06:05 |
Vazon |
ok where do i go to do that? |
| 06:06 |
Menche |
just enter it where you're typing right now |
| 06:06 |
Vazon |
o ok |
| 06:06 |
Menche |
(replace mychannel with whatever name you want, of course) |
| 06:06 |
SegFault22 |
What's wrong with '' ? I'm used to it rather than " . |
| 06:07 |
Vazon |
wait do i type something in the ##mychannel? |
| 06:07 |
Vazon |
o ok |
| 06:07 |
SegFault22 |
it's ''/join ##(channel name here)''. |
| 06:07 |
SegFault22 |
type a channel name after /join |
| 06:07 |
Menche |
freenode likes you to use two hash signs for unofficial channels |
| 06:08 |
Vazon |
Ok how do i get it linked to my server? |
| 06:08 |
Menche |
? |
| 06:08 |
SegFault22 |
For example, ecube said /join #cubemt when he started the channel for his server. |
| 06:08 |
SegFault22 |
You don't have to link it, it's just better than dumping all off-server IRC chatter here in the minetest area. |
| 06:09 |
SegFault22 |
But there is a mod for that, I think... |
| 06:09 |
Vazon |
O ok well the name is Vazon's Survival Server |
| 06:09 |
SegFault22 |
It's better if it's a single word for the channel name |
| 06:09 |
Vazon |
ok hold on then |
| 06:09 |
Menche |
so come up with a short name with no spaces, like ##vazon, ##vazon-server, etc |
| 06:10 |
SegFault22 |
##vazon sounds nice. |
| 06:10 |
Vazon |
ok its Vazon-Server |
| 06:11 |
SegFault22 |
there's lots of IRC commands and stuff that you need to know to be a channel administrator, they can be found on the internet. |
| 06:11 |
Vazon |
ok |
| 06:13 |
SegFault22 |
Is there any way to repeatedly make ecube's IRC beep at him, to get his attention, other than spamming his name?... |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
depends if his client will even beep to begin with |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
but doing so might piss him off :P |
| 06:15 |
SegFault22 |
That may be the issue... |
| 06:15 |
Menche |
most clients will notify the user in some way |
| 06:15 |
Menche |
mine doesn't beep, but it flashes the titlebar red |
| 06:16 |
SegFault22 |
Sorry for spamming you all with this mission I have, to find ecube - I just came here to see if he may be on, and if not, where to find him, but the dead ends keep leading me back here to ask different people what they know about his possible whereabouts. |
| 06:16 |
SegFault22 |
I'll stop asking if you get annoyed. |
| 06:17 |
khonkhortisan |
Xchat places a blinking exclamation point on the systray icon, and makes the channel blue or if it's a pm, red (red is the default active channel colour) |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
mine just lights up my name in yellow and flashes the taskbar item |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
bbl, bedtime. (in theory) |
| 06:17 |
Menche |
yeah, i have xchat |
| 06:17 |
khonkhortisan |
I get a red line with my name in it |
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SegFault22 |
I get nothing, because I use the web-client (program-clients never seem to work -.-) |
| 06:18 |
khonkhortisan |
When you feel you need more control, you'll switch to a local program |
| 06:19 |
SegFault22 |
It never is able to connect, due to that sstp or whatever protocol-something that was implemented for god knows what (celeron55 posted on his blog about it) |
| 06:20 |
Menche |
sasl? |
| 06:20 |
Menche |
you shouldn't need that in most places |
| 06:20 |
Menche |
but Hexchat has sasl support built in |
| 06:20 |
SegFault22 |
Well, for some reason it never connects properly, just disconnects after a few seconds. |
| 06:21 |
SegFault22 |
Well, anyone possibly know any way I can contact ecube other than IRC or the red eclipse stuff? there must be some place he went to after red eclipse, and I don't like spamming them with requests about ecube -.- |
| 06:22 |
SegFault22 |
Has he even been on the minetest IRC lately?... |
| 06:23 |
Vazon |
Seg can u plz get on the server plz |
| 06:23 |
SegFault22 |
yes, I can... |
| 06:23 |
Vazon |
ok cuase i need to test something |
| 06:23 |
Vazon |
tell me when ur on |
| 06:24 |
SegFault22 |
okay connecting now... |
| 06:24 |
Vazon |
ok |
| 06:26 |
SegFault22 |
disconnected -.- |
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| 06:26 |
Vazon |
Really dang |
| 06:27 |
SegFault22 |
Yep -.- |
| 06:27 |
Vazon |
hmmm |
| 06:27 |
thexyz |
i love swear filters, i learn so many new words from those |
| 06:27 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/fairiestoy/chat_channel/blob/cp_channel/swearing_filter.txt |
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| 06:28 |
Menche |
my eyes... |
| 06:28 |
Vazon |
Ok lets try this agian |
| 06:29 |
Vazon |
tell me when you are ready |
| 06:29 |
SegFault22 |
uh, okay... |
| 06:30 |
SegFault22 |
connecting |
| 06:30 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 06:30 |
thexyz |
wait why is "bloody" a swear word? |
| 06:30 |
khonkhortisan |
thexyz, https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/blob/master/misc/multilingualSwearList.txt |
| 06:31 |
khonkhortisan |
bloody is a british swear word |
| 06:31 |
SegFault22 |
about what time is it in Britain about now?... |
| 06:31 |
Menche |
7:31 AM |
| 06:31 |
Vazon |
it is 2:31 am here |
| 06:31 |
Menche |
11:31 here |
| 06:31 |
Menche |
(PM) |
| 06:32 |
Vazon |
XD i have to get up for school in 3 1/2 hours |
| 06:32 |
Vazon |
are you ready Seg? |
| 06:32 |
SegFault22 |
I see. thank you |
| 06:32 |
Menche |
khonkhortisan, lol, that is quite extensive |
| 06:33 |
Menche |
..."adolph hitler" is a swear word? |
| 06:33 |
khonkhortisan |
good to know, I haven't seen it :P |
| 06:33 |
khonkhortisan |
that's the godfrey? rule |
| 06:33 |
khonkhortisan |
godwin's law. |
| 06:33 |
Menche |
lol, it lists... uh... nvm i'm not repeating that |
| 06:34 |
* Menche |
wonders who sat down and thought of all of those |
| 06:34 |
khonkhortisan |
I think it's a cooperative effort |
| 06:34 |
Menche |
"my filter is almost done. just have to think up a list of the worst words i can imagine" |
| 06:35 |
thexyz |
> baltattsya kak govno v prorubi ;_; |
| 06:35 |
* Menche |
imagines a newcomer to their irc channel while that discussion was going on |
| 06:35 |
khonkhortisan |
google can't translate what you just said |
| 06:35 |
Menche |
given the current subject, that's probably a good thing |
| 06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
it thinks it's slovenian |
| 06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah |
| 06:37 |
Vazon |
anyone want to join my new 24/7 survival server? |
| 06:37 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm not really into survival, but sure |
| 06:38 |
Vazon |
ok 75.131.40.131 use that |
| 06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
oh yeah, I forgot minetest breaks the numpad |
| 06:41 |
sfan5 |
good morning |
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Vazon |
Menche can you plz get on the server fo a sec i need to take the fly off |
| 06:43 |
Menche |
i think you can do that when i'm off |
| 06:43 |
Menche |
/revoke Menche fly |
| 06:44 |
Menche |
then verify with /privs Menche |
| 06:44 |
Vazon |
o ok i thought you had to be one to do that |
| 06:44 |
Menche |
a player has to be online to be banned (kinda inconvenient...) but not to change privs |
| 06:47 |
SegFault22 |
Not with futureban |
| 06:48 |
Vazon |
We have that |
| 06:48 |
SegFault22 |
Cool |
| 06:48 |
Vazon |
Yep we made sure we had most of the think that would make a good start |
| 07:07 |
SegFault22 |
but he'll think we abandoned the server?... |
| 07:09 |
SegFault22 |
oh well, I'm too tired to do minetesting... |
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SegFault22 |
If only ecube were back... |
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| 07:18 |
SegFault22 |
Calinou, have you heard from ecube recently? Or has he been on IRC lately? |
| 07:18 |
Calinou |
ecube: ping |
| 07:18 |
Calinou |
he talked 2 days ago in #redeclipse |
| 07:18 |
SegFault22 |
He did? |
| 07:19 |
thexyz |
khonkhortisan: it worked fine for me, it just autocorrected itself twice |
| 07:19 |
SegFault22 |
Hmm. thank you for the info. |
| 07:19 |
khonkhortisan |
what did? |
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Calinou |
SegFault22: tip: /whois ecube ecube |
| 07:24 |
Calinou |
(yes, twice) |
| 07:25 |
PenguinDad |
He is idle for 8 hours |
| 07:25 |
SegFault22 |
8 hours... hmm... |
| 07:25 |
SegFault22 |
thank you for the info. this will be very helpful. |
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thexyz |
khonkhortisan: google translate |
| 07:34 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
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| 08:44 |
JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Tell A Joke Day! :-D |
| 08:45 |
JamesTait |
And happy Throw-kittens-at-NekoGloop Day as well, apparently! |
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| 09:01 |
Calinou |
happy nouveau day* |
| 09:15 |
JamesTait |
Calinou, touché! |
| 09:48 |
kaeza |
lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105825#p105825 |
| 09:48 |
kaeza |
interesting bug |
| 09:48 |
kaeza |
Calinou, ^ |
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| 10:04 |
hoodedice |
Has anyone decompiled windows? |
| 10:04 |
hoodedice |
*ever* |
| 10:19 |
JamesTait |
I've smashed plenty. |
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| 10:25 |
Vazon |
Hello everyone |
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| 10:45 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:46 |
hoodedice |
Has anyone decompiled windows? |
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| 10:51 |
hoodedice |
No one then. Maybe it was a stupid question all along |
| 10:52 |
Vazon |
What was your question? |
| 10:52 |
hoodedice |
Nothing |
| 10:52 |
Vazon |
O ok |
| 10:52 |
hoodedice |
So... |
| 10:52 |
hoodedice |
Yeah |
| 10:53 |
Vazon |
i have to leave in a few min for school |
| 10:54 |
hoodedice |
Cool yo |
| 10:55 |
Vazon |
Yes XD im hoping when i get home i can see a bunch of people on my server |
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Vazon |
Well bye |
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| 11:10 |
hoodedice |
Ciao ppl |
| 11:10 |
hoodedice |
I just got my 'copy' of SWAT 4 |
| 11:14 |
PilzAdam |
swat 4 is an epic game |
| 11:15 |
* Jordach |
used to SWAT 3 on PC |
| 11:15 |
Jordach |
play* |
| 11:16 |
Jordach |
there was multiplayer on that :D |
| 11:17 |
Jordach |
kahrl, you should replace the word hacky with black magic :P |
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* Jordach |
is wondering who to put on Bass Guitar |
| 11:54 |
Jordach |
Calinou or Evergreen, hmm |
| 11:58 |
* Jordach |
is wondering |
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webdesigner97 |
hi |
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| 12:03 |
Jordach |
hey Peacock |
| 12:04 |
Peacock |
hey coffee |
| 12:04 |
Peacock |
*jordach |
| 12:04 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 12:04 |
Jordach |
Peacock, my current project is BlockBand |
| 12:04 |
Peacock |
music? |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
Peacock, animated G3 models to rock 'n' roll |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
might include MJ's thriller someday |
| 12:06 |
Peacock |
hm, with the amount of kids here, i'd start with a non-paedo musician lol |
| 12:06 |
Peacock |
then theres the question of whether to use a black or white character model, male or female, it gets very confusing :P |
| 12:07 |
thexyz |
> Since I run Debian on my computers, I do not play anymore to 3D shooting games, not because of the lack of Free 3D drivers, but because developing Debian is more fun and addictive. |
| 12:07 |
Peacock |
re male of female: same problem with justin bieber and 1D lol |
| 12:07 |
Jordach |
Taoki, http://i.imgur.com/yyFLubN.png |
| 12:08 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Cool! |
| 12:08 |
Jordach |
Taoki, i'm making shorts with generation 3 models |
| 12:08 |
Taoki |
Awesome :D |
| 12:08 |
* Jordach |
needs shape keys for lip syncing |
| 12:09 |
Jordach |
that's the only way without bones :P |
| 12:09 |
Taoki |
Yeah, hard to choose between bones and shape keys when it comes to face animation |
| 12:10 |
Peacock |
i would have thought repetitive gameplay would be reason enough to stop playing 3d shooting games lol |
| 12:10 |
thexyz |
sometimes that's all what you need |
| 12:10 |
Jordach |
Taoki, bones for eyes, eyebrows and eyelids |
| 12:11 |
Jordach |
because i can use z axis to move them up and down |
| 12:11 |
Jordach |
(in relation to other bones from inheriting) |
| 12:11 |
Peacock |
jordach, unrelated but made me think of this lol http://geekisawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Guitar-Hero-610x600.jpg |
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| 12:12 |
Jordach |
Taoki, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/312/newmodel.medium.png |
| 12:12 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/312/newmodel.png <- biggetr |
| 12:13 |
Jordach |
-t |
| 12:13 |
Taoki |
fun |
| 12:13 |
sfan5 |
he looks like someone hit him in the balls |
| 12:13 |
Jordach |
Taoki, my models are direct children of yours |
| 12:15 |
Peacock |
naw if he got hit on the balls he'd be curved the other way, looks more like random street-assrape |
| 12:15 |
Jordach |
haha |
| 12:15 |
Jordach |
surprise buttsecks |
| 12:15 |
thexyz |
Peacock: i mean, i do have enough fun interesting different not-dull stuff at work so sometimes it's preferable to turn the brain off and kill some those fucking monsters |
| 12:16 |
Peacock |
npc's or players though? sometimes shooting npc's is more (on wolfenstein anyways) |
| 12:16 |
Peacock |
players always crouch in the same corners and use the same tricks |
| 12:17 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 12:17 |
Peacock |
oups *is more fun |
| 12:18 |
Peacock |
depends tho if the npc's are dumb as door knobs |
| 12:18 |
Peacock |
*arent |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
Taoki, quick trick: make use of object contraints so you can move the camera with a armature |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
handy for moving camera tracks |
| 12:18 |
Taoki |
Paths should be better for that |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
Taoki, i prefer armature :P |
| 12:25 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/322/untitled.png |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
:D nearly ready; just need a crowd (which needs about 120 skins), some stage extras, and of course: music |
| 12:27 |
hoodedice |
I'm too humane |
| 12:28 |
hoodedice |
I used the OC gun again and again on a suspect |
| 12:28 |
hoodedice |
Till he got up and shot me. |
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| 12:39 |
* Jordach |
puts a kitten on sfan5's head |
| 12:39 |
* sfan5 |
throws the kitten at Jordach |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-04#i_2688845 |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
^ i found something |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
i dug through a years worth of logs without grep |
| 12:41 |
thexyz |
Minetest-tan â¤â¤ |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
this http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/311/mystery.png now makes SENSE. |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
wait, Minetest-tan was black? |
| 12:43 |
thexyz |
hey that's racist |
| 12:43 |
Jordach |
thexyz, explain the japanese meaning of -tan to PilzAdam |
| 12:43 |
* Jordach |
isn't going to bother |
| 12:45 |
thexyz |
> it expresses that the speaker finds a person endearing |
| 12:46 |
thexyz |
-tan doesn't imply girl, by the way |
| 12:46 |
PilzAdam |
its usually used for girls |
| 12:49 |
Jordach |
> Always assume bots are female |
| 12:49 |
Jordach |
IIRC, you said that thexyz |
| 12:50 |
thexyz |
Jordach: yeah i did |
| 12:51 |
thexyz |
those facts don't contradict in any way |
| 12:53 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: and babies, and young childs, and animals; anyway I don't know Japanese so you all better ask google |
| 12:53 |
PilzAdam |
I asked wikipedia |
| 12:54 |
Peacock |
just noticed the older one doesn't have eyebrows, the two kids have caterpillars lol |
| 12:54 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: japanese one? |
| 12:54 |
PilzAdam |
no, the englisch and german one |
| 12:54 |
PilzAdam |
-c |
| 12:57 |
Peacock |
oh damn, the UK sterilized someone for having learning difficulties (http://business.financialpost.com/2013/08/16/why-the-u-k-ordered-its-first-court-authorized-sterilization/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter) |
| 12:59 |
Peacock |
thats fucked up |
| 13:02 |
Peacock |
ottomans! http://s23.postimg.org/z4885fsgb/screenshot_2268590698.png |
| 13:04 |
Peacock |
now to try making a shrink couch |
| 13:05 |
Peacock |
!seen thefamilygrog66 |
| 13:05 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen thefamilygrog66 around. |
| 13:17 |
VanessaE |
morning all |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
(grog was here a day or two ago) |
| 13:18 |
Peacock |
goody, he'll need to update his mod |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
lrfurn? |
| 13:18 |
Peacock |
yeah |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
what's to update? |
| 13:18 |
Peacock |
i made an ottoman |
| 13:18 |
Peacock |
working on a shrink couch |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 13:19 |
Peacock |
maybe a rolltop desk (since it fits with the style) |
| 13:19 |
VanessaE |
nice idea |
| 13:19 |
VanessaE |
good luck getting the model to look right with only nodeboxes :) |
| 13:20 |
Peacock |
well the rolltop portion is just a bunch of tiny nodeboxes |
| 13:20 |
Peacock |
though i do wish internal faces werent drawn lol |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
try to keep it down below about 20 per node (nominal) |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
else it tends to affect performance |
| 13:20 |
Peacock |
especially with + furniture in a given area |
| 13:21 |
hoodedice |
Peacock |
| 13:21 |
Peacock |
howdy |
| 13:21 |
hoodedice |
furniture = wooden |
| 13:21 |
Peacock |
? |
| 13:21 |
hoodedice |
makes_sense = FALSE |
| 13:22 |
hoodedice |
futuristic_map = TRUE |
| 13:22 |
Peacock |
well i already have metal furniture and people bitched about that so i expanded the repertoire a bit |
| 13:22 |
hoodedice |
var people_bitch = 9001 |
| 13:22 |
Peacock |
besides just because somethings' in the inventory doesn't mean people have to use them |
| 13:23 |
hoodedice |
large_inv = large_loadtimes |
| 13:23 |
kaeza |
var? ಠ_ಠ|
| 13:23 |
hoodedice |
#noobdev |
| 13:23 |
Peacock |
i still have round hay bales and thats not very futuristic :p |
| 13:23 |
hoodedice |
hay will never be out of style |
| 13:24 |
kaeza |
make plastic furniture; everyone happy :P |
| 13:24 |
hoodedice |
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2lvzyjfQyng/UB_L_ZsndzI/AAAAAAAAAb4/MdiB6xhBVsg/s320/066.JPG |
| 13:24 |
hoodedice |
Plastic = env_destruction |
| 13:24 |
Peacock |
ugh, plastic, ikea instructions alone could account for the high swedish suicide rate |
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| 13:25 |
Peacock |
i have a small container full of those little keys they send you lol |
| 13:25 |
kaeza |
suddenly: IKEA mod; you have to asemble the nodeboxes yourself |
| 13:25 |
kaeza |
+s |
| 13:26 |
hoodedice |
#LETTHEFLAMEWARSBEGIN |
| 13:26 |
hoodedice |
http://betanews.com/2013/05/28/dear-linux-im-leaving-you-for-windows-8/ |
| 13:26 |
hoodedice |
!title |
| 13:26 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: Dear Linux, I'm leaving you -- for Windows 8 |
| 13:27 |
Peacock |
win8? okay you'd have a more reasonable argument for win7 tho lol |
| 13:27 |
hoodedice |
Win8 is good |
| 13:27 |
hoodedice |
Ubuntu is better |
| 13:27 |
hoodedice |
I win. Your arguments are invalid |
| 13:27 |
Peacock |
well they kinda dropped the ball with 8, removing shit and having to re-add it in later editions |
| 13:28 |
Peacock |
its like selling crippled games and offering 1st day DLC's |
| 13:28 |
sfan5 |
^ |
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| 13:29 |
sfan5 |
"I tried Internet Explorer 10 and liked it." That guy is probably paid by Microsoft |
| 13:29 |
Peacock |
i guess they figure once parents have already sunk a certain amount on a game, they wont mind sinking more in to complete the experience, but adult gamers are like "fuck this shit" lol |
| 13:30 |
hoodedice |
Parents completing game experience |
| 13:30 |
hoodedice |
? |
| 13:30 |
hoodedice |
Fudge that |
| 13:30 |
Peacock |
well maybe he does really like IE lol different strokes for different blokes |
| 13:30 |
VanessaE |
leaving linux for windows? not surprised. I've had many days over the last couple of years where I've seriously thought about the same. |
| 13:30 |
lamefun |
sfan5, are there really people that say Microsoft's products are good because Microsoft paid them? any confirmed cases? |
| 13:30 |
Peacock |
me too lol |
| 13:30 |
hoodedice |
After tpb became mainstream dad hasn't bought a SINGLE game |
| 13:30 |
VanessaE |
because linux really pisses me off sometimes. then I came to my senses :) |
| 13:30 |
hoodedice |
IE10 is kinda nice though |
| 13:30 |
sfan5 |
lamefun: oh you again, not that I know |
| 13:31 |
hoodedice |
But firefox FTW |
| 13:31 |
Peacock |
i just stick to dualbooting at least one of the rigs |
| 13:31 |
Peacock |
that way if someone breaks on the same dist im using for all rigs, i have a backup working system |
| 13:31 |
hoodedice |
When I get my PC, I won't dual boot |
| 13:32 |
hoodedice |
Even if I did, I'll use a seperate HDD for windows |
| 13:32 |
Peacock |
without the long, painful laggy bootup from liveimage lol |
| 13:32 |
hoodedice |
Which will stay disconnected until I want to boot |
| 13:33 |
lamefun |
Free software is good, but it's bound to hurt itself until it dies, because of the very 4 freedoms that define it. Unification = good. If you want to make a Windows distro, there are court, judges and ultimately police with guns to prevent you. That's how proprietary software enforces unification. |
| 13:33 |
Peacock |
well theres always lxde |
| 13:33 |
kaeza |
lel |
| 13:34 |
lamefun |
Who likes Windows 8, uses it. Who doesn't like is forced to use. |
| 13:34 |
lamefun |
Who likes GNOME 3, uses it. Who doesn't, regroup and fork it, increasing fragmentation. |
| 13:34 |
Peacock |
well if you attend school or work in an office yeah |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
I HATE IT. |
| 13:35 |
Peacock |
then again, bakers don't get to bring their own ovens to work |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
had to use it a few times over the last couple weeks during my many re-installs |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
ugh |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
felt like trying to use a tablet...without the touchscreen |
| 13:35 |
Peacock |
win8? lol |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
no, gnome 3 |
| 13:35 |
Peacock |
never tried it, but i tried unity/gnome3 a few years back, and yeah... just no |
| 13:35 |
kaeza |
lol |
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| 13:37 |
Peacock |
and the people pushing it saying "its better!" reminds me of all those kids so many years ago installing all this crap on my computer saying the same thing lol |
| 13:38 |
Peacock |
now i'd sooner drop someone and dig a grave then let anyone touch my rigs lol |
| 13:39 |
lamefun |
Proprietary software is better because it's unified, not fragmented. It's not fragmented because it's proprietary. |
| 13:39 |
lamefun |
Free software is a sinking ship being sunk by freedom. |
| 13:39 |
lamefun |
Central global government! |
| 13:39 |
lamefun |
Forced unification! |
| 13:39 |
lamefun |
Censorship! |
| 13:39 |
kaeza |
ban! |
| 13:39 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, thats offtopic |
| 13:39 |
PilzAdam |
stop it |
| 13:40 |
lamefun |
PilzAdam, then everyone else talked off-topic too, it's me who's warned because I talk harsh adult truth that's inconvenient. |
| 13:40 |
Peacock |
this guy talks like markv lol |
| 13:41 |
Peacock |
could just be the language barrier tho |
| 13:41 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, offtopic is allowed in this channel, but only if more than 1 people talk about it |
| 13:41 |
Calinou |
markveidemanis doesn't capitalize his sentences :P |
| 13:41 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: he's just being that "Praise JavaScript" guy |
| 13:41 |
PilzAdam |
I know |
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| 13:43 |
lamefun |
Another harsh adult truth: one-man projects die easily --- LuaJIT is one man project --- shouldn't be used --- use plain Lua or JavaScript. |
| 13:43 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, thats trolling |
| 13:43 |
lamefun |
It's not. |
| 13:43 |
lamefun |
It's telling truth. |
| 13:43 |
Calinou |
suddenly: Minecraft |
| 13:43 |
Calinou |
one-man project, 10 million sales |
| 13:44 |
Peacock |
not necessarily the one man projects that die, its the one man that may move on to something else lol these things can be picked up by others sometimes |
| 13:46 |
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lamefun was kicked by VanessaE: SHUT UP! |
| 13:46 |
* VanessaE |
stamps her foot. |
| 13:46 |
PilzAdam |
rage much? |
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| 13:47 |
* Peacock |
readies the popcorn |
| 13:47 |
* Peacock |
butters the channel |
| 13:47 |
VanessaE |
lamefun: you have been told not to bring up that stupid argument anymore. |
| 13:48 |
lamefun |
Peacock, don't count on it. Calinou: Minecraft is forcibly one-man, it's proprietary, if it was free software, it'd surely get lots of contributors. Peacock: also, the probability of it being picked up depends on complexity, JIT is black magic, so :( |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
minecraft, one-man? er... |
| 13:49 |
kaeza |
DNFTT |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
last I knew mojang had around 20 or 30 employees |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
yeah yeah |
| 13:49 |
Peacock |
im not exactly sure what jit does different, i know it has a different GC which may account for other mods' blueprints not spawning in full, thats about it |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
I have a surplus of troll food ;) |
| 13:49 |
lamefun |
Peacock, compiles Lua into machine code dynamically, so it runs faster. |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
lamefun: JIT is 30% to 200% faster "for free" |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
even if you don't tweak your code |
| 13:50 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: it compiles Lua into allegedly executable machine code at run-time. |
| 13:50 |
VanessaE |
(and does it quite well) |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
it's actually pretty good |
| 13:50 |
Peacock |
i thought lua was compiled at runtime? |
| 13:50 |
kaeza |
into bytecode |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
it's compiled into bytecode at runtime normally |
| 13:50 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: I think Lua is tokenized |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
and into natice CPU code by JIT |
| 13:50 |
VanessaE |
this is truly compiled |
| 13:50 |
Peacock |
bytecode vs machinecode? |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: Minecraft was one-man until summer 2010 |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: yep, I know |
| 13:51 |
Peacock |
why doesn't lua do the same then? |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: it does now :P |
| 13:51 |
Peacock |
would be nice to have lua 5.2 |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
with luajit. |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
er, dunno whether 5.2 is really more useful or not |
| 13:51 |
kaeza |
Peacock, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bytecode |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: like Blitz! on the C64. |
| 13:52 |
Peacock |
there were a few features of 5.2 that would have been useful when i was doing the mesh spawning thing |
| 13:52 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, 5.2 has some nice things AFAIK |
| 13:52 |
Peacock |
stuff for reading/writing binary data mostly |
| 13:52 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 13:52 |
kaeza |
+that 5.1 does not have |
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| 13:53 |
lamefun |
Lua variables can change types... So I think it does a lot of advanced math and black magic... so if it does, chances that it'll be picked up are slim :( |
| 13:53 |
Peacock |
which could still be useful where the new schems are involved |
| 13:53 |
lamefun |
s/does/dies |
| 13:53 |
kaeza |
one of those is the bitop library (bitwise operators) |
| 13:53 |
Peacock |
thats it |
| 13:53 |
kaeza |
useful for... something |
| 13:53 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I think luajit has that actually |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
and a handful of other stuff that's been backported from 5.2 |
| 13:54 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, yep, but not stock Lua |
| 13:54 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: I think +q would've worked better |
| 13:54 |
PilzAdam |
"We are currently investigating problems with GitHub.com. We'll provide an update once we have more information." :-( |
| 13:54 |
lamefun |
On the other hand, the whole Web depends on JavaScript, so it's very unlikely that there'll be time without a free software JavaScript interpreter around. |
| 13:54 |
Peacock |
yeah but if jit has it and you use it, what happens to all those users who don't have jit? |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
not sure if that stuff's been disabled in MT though |
| 13:54 |
thexyz |
or /knockout |
| 13:54 |
PilzAdam |
!mute lamefun |
| 13:55 |
Peacock |
i guess the simplest solution would be to package jit with minetest and default to it |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: agreed |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
but that's already been decided against, at least for now |
| 13:55 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, jit is not supported on all platforms AFAIK |
| 13:55 |
thexyz |
Peacock: I'm sure Lua doesn't do that because one of its goals is portability |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
mostly because the guy who does that doesn't recomment it |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
recommend* |
| 13:55 |
Peacock |
while still have some flag/option for using main lua at compile |
| 13:56 |
Peacock |
aah |
| 13:56 |
thexyz |
and writing JIT for every arch would take a bit too much time |
| 13:56 |
Peacock |
so jit wouldn't work on win or mac? |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
jit works on both, afaik |
| 13:56 |
thexyz |
Peacock: check LuaJIT homepage |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 13:56 |
thexyz |
for list of supported architectures/OSes |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
http://luajit.org/luajit.html |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
it works on practically everything |
| 13:57 |
Peacock |
did earlier, its got news for june, may, and june of 2012 :/ |
| 13:57 |
VanessaE |
that link, Peacock ^^^^^ |
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| 13:58 |
Peacock |
all i knows is, it wasn't easy finding and installing on #! lol |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
imho it should have been bundled with MT from the start |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
it works on everything MT works on, it appears. |
| 13:58 |
Peacock |
i had to download the .debs from debian website from another version of debian |
| 13:58 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, IIRC there are some exotic architectures where Irrlicht runs on |
| 13:58 |
PilzAdam |
and JIT doesnt support them |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: perhaps, but why does that matter? |
| 13:59 |
Peacock |
yeah MT doesn't really run well on old hardware anymore |
| 13:59 |
PilzAdam |
our limit is Irrlicht, not LuaJIT |
| 13:59 |
Peacock |
hasn't for about a year |
| 13:59 |
VanessaE |
we care what MT runs on, not just irrlicht |
| 14:00 |
Peacock |
like, a year and a half ago i had to upgrade the gfx card on the p4 to keep playing, and a year ago i had to get a new rig alltogether to run the server |
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| 14:00 |
thexyz |
well yeah some crazy people think that MT should be able to run on sparcs or something |
| 14:01 |
Calinou |
it runs well on old hardware by today's standards |
| 14:01 |
hoodedice |
MT ran nice enough on my P4 with ubuntu |
| 14:01 |
Peacock |
well i wouldn't want to mislead people running really old hardware lol |
| 14:01 |
hoodedice |
No GPU |
| 14:01 |
hoodedice |
(It was before 0.4.3) |
| 14:01 |
kaeza |
the server can run pretty much anywhere |
| 14:01 |
Peacock |
in a terminal yeah |
| 14:02 |
Peacock |
im running server + client on new rig to play, wife plays on p4 (just client) |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
anyways, it doesn't matter what irrlicht runs on, or luajit - it matters what MT itself can run on. Without MT, the others are useless anyway (for the sake of this particular argument) |
| 14:04 |
Peacock |
oh, and i gave up every being able to play on netbook lol |
| 14:04 |
Peacock |
shitty integrated graphics |
| 14:05 |
* hoodedice |
has been using integrated graphics since 2004 |
| 14:06 |
hoodedice |
(THE HORROR) |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
oh G*d |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
how do you survive? :) |
| 14:08 |
nore |
14:07 UTC The site is unavailable again. We appear to be under another DDoS attck which we are working hard to mitigate. :-( |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
github? |
| 14:08 |
nore |
yes |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
figures. |
| 14:08 |
PenguinDad |
Got it right now over twitter |
| 14:09 |
* nore |
wanted to make a pull request... |
| 14:09 |
Peacock |
who'd ddos GH? |
| 14:09 |
kaeza |
lamefun |
| 14:09 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 14:10 |
Peacock |
didn't know you could ddos shit with JS lol |
| 14:10 |
nore |
Peacock: some big software company that hates FOSS? |
| 14:10 |
thexyz |
some crazy faggots do |
| 14:10 |
Peacock |
lets not get into the paranoid conspiracy theories lol |
| 14:11 |
kaeza |
*aliens* |
| 14:11 |
thexyz |
i assume they want some repo to be removed |
| 14:11 |
PenguinDad |
they ddos because they want free private repos |
| 14:11 |
nore |
why would someone want a repo to be removed? |
| 14:12 |
thexyz |
imagine some stuff like wikileaks but hosted @ github |
| 14:13 |
nore |
they wouldn't ddos github for that |
| 14:14 |
nore |
they would shutdown their servers |
| 14:14 |
PilzAdam |
github is under attack again |
| 14:14 |
thexyz |
"they" |
| 14:15 |
thexyz |
world != USA |
| 14:15 |
PenguinDad |
The site is currently available, but we are still fighting against an ongoing DDoS |
| 14:15 |
nore |
a bit long to load, though |
| 14:15 |
Peacock |
faggot or esp ( US ) fagot 1 (ˈfæɡət) |
| 14:15 |
Peacock |
|
| 14:15 |
Peacock |
— n |
| 14:15 |
Peacock |
1.a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel |
| 14:15 |
Peacock |
why would sticks ddos GH? |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
because they're faggots |
| 14:16 |
VanessaE |
it's interesting..github gets ddos'd and now the site I've been watching videos on (in Romania) is having a bandwidth problem. |
| 14:16 |
VanessaE |
wonder if the DDoS is coming from that area or near it.. |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
same DC? |
| 14:16 |
nore |
ask them... ;) |
| 14:17 |
Peacock |
probably a botnet based out of there |
| 14:17 |
VanessaE |
could be |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
sauerbraten.org is also getting DDoS'd, but that's irrelevant |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
(as well as assaultcube's master server) |
| 14:17 |
VanessaE |
(i've been watching those videos on trilulilu.ro if that matters) |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
that sounds like "trololololo.ro" |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
maybe a little, but *shrug* the site usually works okay |
| 14:19 |
VanessaE |
sad that I have to pull from there to watch a 7 year old cartoon :-/ |
| 14:19 |
thexyz |
torrent it |
| 14:19 |
VanessaE |
I don't use torrents for TV shows, not for a long time |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
too many prying eyes. |
| 14:20 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 14:20 |
Peacock |
dont know how reliable fullstream encryption is |
| 14:20 |
Peacock |
but i have it on just in case it is lol |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
of the kind that like to send allegedly legal threats, that |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
is. |
| 14:22 |
thexyz |
yeah, gotta buy some VPNs |
| 14:22 |
VanessaE |
I'd rather just buy the tv show on blu-ray (or DVD if I have to resort to that ancient format) |
| 14:22 |
Peacock |
industry doesn't seem to realize that people no longer plan their weeks around their favorite tv shows lol |
| 14:22 |
VanessaE |
less bother and that way it's legit |
| 14:23 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: and I'd rather buy it in some *digital* format, not those ancient age DVDs or BDs |
| 14:23 |
Peacock |
yeah, until the disc starts skipping/not reading |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: they're slowly waking up to the idea....VERY slowly. |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
BD/DVD isn't digital? |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
O.o |
| 14:23 |
thexyz |
not enough |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
um... |
| 14:23 |
thexyz |
I want a download, if that's not clear |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
well sure, downloads are fine |
| 14:24 |
thexyz |
which I can't damage or lose |
| 14:24 |
VanessaE |
but BD (or even a good DVD) is usually better quality |
| 14:24 |
PenguinDad |
but not for people with slow connections :( |
| 14:24 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: how come |
| 14:24 |
thexyz |
they could just serve exactly the same content |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: higher visual quality |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
um |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
as in less or no MPEG artifacts, etc. |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
18:24 thexyz: they could just serve exactly the same content |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
they can't. |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
they don't want to |
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VanessaE |
you ever compared good blu-ray copy of something to the streaming version? |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
meh |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
18:25 thexyz: 18:24 thexyz: they could just serve exactly the same content |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
even the best streams just can't compare |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
please READ READ READ THIS |
| 14:25 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
I READ IT DAMN IT |
| 14:26 |
Peacock |
... |
| 14:26 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:26 |
thexyz |
now I'd like to point you to the word "exactly" |
| 14:26 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:26 |
thexyz |
"exactly the same" |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
so, you got 15-20 Mbps to spare to stream a BD-quality video? |
| 14:26 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
and a server that can keep up with you and however many thousands of others? |
| 14:26 |
thexyz |
not stream, download; and I'm sure it'll be cheaper than manufacturing all those bds |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
Prestotron562: github is under a DDoS right now in fact. |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
that much is trie |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
true* |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
if you don't mind downloading 30 GB worth for one movie :P |
| 14:27 |
thexyz |
I'm fine with it |
| 14:27 |
nore |
50GB |
| 14:27 |
thexyz |
and then can as well provide different qualities |
| 14:27 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
nore: figure 30GB of movie content + 20 GB of "special features" et al. |
| 14:28 |
Peacock |
thats one thing that's confusing about torrents, if the file is 700~800mb, it doesnt really matter if it says bluray-rip or dvd-rip, its the same quality lol |
| 14:28 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:28 |
thexyz |
and, actually, h264 + 10-bit + some crazy CRF setting and you won't see the difference in action |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
Prestotron562: DDoS = flooded with requests of various types, by several (infected) computers |
| 14:28 |
thexyz |
(well, you won't be able to play it on your dumb hardware player though) |
| 14:28 |
nore |
s/several/a lot of |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: I thought BD already used h264? |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
yes, usually thousands |
| 14:29 |
Calinou |
Prestotron562: the first D is for distributed |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: maybe, I dunno |
| 14:29 |
thexyz |
I'm sure if that's the case then they don't use the most optimal settings |
| 14:29 |
thexyz |
because old hardware |
| 14:29 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
not "shut off", denial of service e.g. you were flooded |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
some friend if he feels the need to DoS you. |
| 14:33 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: maybe suboptimal settings, but it works well for me, or at least as well as DVDs ever did, save for taking a bit longer to load. |
| 14:34 |
Peacock |
Prestotron562, that's all? arguments where i live end with a GSW half the time lol |
| 14:34 |
Peacock |
(serious arguments i mean) |
| 14:35 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: yeah, I mean, it's not optimal for its size |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
GSW? |
| 14:35 |
Peacock |
gun shot wound :p |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
eek |
| 14:35 |
thexyz |
where do you live? |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
he's a brit :) |
| 14:35 |
Peacock |
well, there are alot of farmers around the town, and alot of bikers in two, both are armed lol |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
(I think) |
| 14:35 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:35 |
Peacock |
*in town |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
no strike that |
| 14:36 |
VanessaE |
you're a canuck right? |
| 14:36 |
thexyz |
I'm not going here, don't want to be shot for another GPL/non-GPL argument :/ |
| 14:36 |
Peacock |
quebecois yeah lol |
| 14:36 |
VanessaE |
right. |
| 14:36 |
* VanessaE |
steals all of Peacock's maple syrup :D |
| 14:36 |
Peacock |
in french part of country people shoot eachother, in the english part, its the cops shooting people lol |
| 14:37 |
Peacock |
VanessaE that was you? http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/million+maple+syrup+stolen+Quebec+recovered/7336807/story.html |
| 14:37 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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VanessaE |
haha |
| 14:38 |
kaeza |
of course >.> <.< |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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Peacock |
why would people think im british? because i spell colour with a u? ll |
| 14:42 |
Peacock |
*lol |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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VanessaE |
Peacock: well to be fair, didn't the brits leave a pretty strong influence up there in syrup-land? :) |
| 14:43 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:44 |
Peacock |
well they left the catholic church in charge in quebec (until the 60's quiet revolution), they werent quite as reckless with the rest of the country |
| 14:44 |
VanessaE |
oy :( |
| 14:45 |
Peacock |
the same church that turned orphans over to university and learning hospitals for testing and experimentation |
| 14:45 |
PenguinDad |
Fun Fact: BD means comic in French |
| 14:45 |
Peacock |
Quebec became very secular when these and other facts were brought to light |
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Peacock |
though now the english part of the country calls us racist because we won't let the muslims impose their religious views here :/ |
| 14:48 |
Peacock |
funny thing about anglo-canadians, they bend over backwards to please every group that came after them, but not those who were here before them (french and native americans) |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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PenguinDad |
cute http://1.asset.soup.io/asset/2378/7889_a860.jpeg <3 |
| 14:54 |
PenguinDad |
Cat Content kills :D |
| 14:55 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 14:55 |
VanessaE |
cute :) |
| 14:57 |
PenguinDad |
i found it on Diaspora* if it's interesting for somebody |
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hoodedice |
(I survived with Xubuntu) |
| 15:07 |
hoodedice |
Oooooooooooooooooh |
| 15:07 |
hoodedice |
https://identicons.github.com/hoodedice.png |
| 15:07 |
hoodedice |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
hoodedice: Document isn't HTML |
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hoodedice |
(lol) |
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hoodedice |
This is so gonna be my next avatar |
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hoodedice |
https://identicons.github.com/minetest.png |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 15:09 |
hoodedice |
Yo |
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NekoGloop |
:3 |
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PenguinDad |
NekoGloop: coffee for you http://1.asset.soup.io/asset/2378/7889_a860.jpeg :3 |
| 15:12 |
NekoGloop |
I don't drink coffee |
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* PenguinDad |
throws a chest full of kittens at NekoGloop |
| 15:16 |
* Jordach |
throws a kitten at PenguinDad |
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* Jordach |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
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* Calinou |
throws a jarate at Jordach |
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* Jordach |
puts a kitten on Calinou's head |
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PilzAdam |
/me fails |
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* Jordach |
hides |
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* Peacock |
throws coffee at NekoGloop |
| 15:18 |
Peacock |
oups, forgot you dont drink it :p |
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* Jordach |
throws coffee at Peacock |
| 15:19 |
Peacock |
already have a cup :p |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
lol |
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* hoodedice |
leaves |
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* Jordach |
slaps hoodedice for leaving |
| 15:21 |
Peacock |
wow, ill be celebrating my 300th autoban soon lol |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
fuck man |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
well 2/3's are nick bans, which just proves IP bans arent enough |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
how'd you even ban by nick |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
(this SHOULD BE DEFINITELY part of minetest builtin) |
| 15:23 |
Peacock |
simple, i override the default ban function, add the name an array thats serialized and read at startup |
| 15:23 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Remind me how to select and deselect individual verticies in blender. Box select and clear is getting annoying... |
| 15:23 |
Peacock |
then on joinplayer, i check if the nick is already in the list, and ban again |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, click the cube with a yellow-y point in the corner |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
(top left) |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
lemme explain more |
| 15:25 |
Peacock |
and if i see someone with different nicks and similar enough IP's getting autobanned regularly, i ban the whole ip range |
| 15:25 |
Tesseract |
I see no cube in the left corner. |
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Tesseract |
I am in edit mode BTW. |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, http://i.imgur.com/dCVvJGt.png |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
look for that |
| 15:28 |
Peacock |
jordach http://pastebin.com/cj18Lwnt |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
notbad.png |
| 15:29 |
Peacock |
it also bans any idiot who cant pick a unique name without using more than two digits lol |
| 15:30 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Found it. |
| 15:30 |
kaeza |
Peacock, also ban "[xX][xX]+.+[xX][xX]+" :P |
| 15:30 |
nore |
Peacock: if someone connects with a nick like abc1234, can he connect again with another nick? |
| 15:30 |
Peacock |
what kind of name would that ban? |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
nore not unless they release renew ip too |
| 15:31 |
kaeza |
Peacock, anything that starts and ends with "xx" (case insensitive) |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
not a bad idea |
| 15:31 |
kaeza |
oh actually, "^[xX][xX]+.+[xX][xX]+$" |
| 15:32 |
nore |
kaeza: banning [xX][xX].*[xX][xX] is enough |
| 15:32 |
nore |
same |
| 15:32 |
Peacock |
but i was thinking of pattern matching for valid names like [A-Z][a-z]+[0-9][0-9]" |
| 15:32 |
Peacock |
though i suck at regex |
| 15:32 |
Tesseract |
Might as well ban .* while you area at it... |
| 15:32 |
kaeza |
^ |
| 15:32 |
kaeza |
good idea :P |
| 15:33 |
kaeza |
also ".*[Mm][Cc].*" :P |
| 15:33 |
nore |
and IPs *.*.*.* |
| 15:33 |
Peacock |
well only griefers and pains-in-the-asses chose complicated names to complicate bans, so i like to get a head start |
| 15:33 |
nore |
oops, .*\.;*\..*\..* |
| 15:34 |
* kaeza |
will login as "IlIIlll1IIlllI" |
| 15:34 |
Peacock |
in any case its not the quantity of players that matter, its the quality |
| 15:34 |
Peacock |
if i cared about quantity id write a bot to connect multiple times lol |
| 15:35 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: You arean't going to get (m)any quality players if you ban all of them. |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
i have enough quality players that seem to be able to chose proper names and build proper things |
| 15:35 |
kaeza |
Tesseract, quality over quantity as they say |
| 15:36 |
kaeza |
it's preferable to have 2 good players than 40 griefers/dumbasses |
| 15:36 |
Peacock |
and you have to wonder exactly who some of these griefers are that claim to not have/want a forum account |
| 15:36 |
Peacock |
what kaeza sai |
| 15:36 |
Peacock |
*said |
| 15:37 |
Tesseract |
Yes, but he is going to lose a lot of good players to bans. |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
though i have my doubts about some of these griefers, especially no one seems too interested in comparing ban lists lol |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
*as no one |
| 15:38 |
Peacock |
Tesseract my good players dont seem to have that problem |
| 15:38 |
Tesseract |
Even on my server a mod accidentaly got himself banned. |
| 15:38 |
kaeza |
blame the mod ev-- o wait |
| 15:38 |
kaeza |
dev* |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
how does your moderator get himself banned unless you use autoban yourself? |
| 15:39 |
Tesseract |
He banned himself... |
| 15:39 |
kaeza |
Tesseract, only way xban would ban someone is if the user had the same IP or same nick |
| 15:39 |
Tesseract |
^ |
| 15:39 |
kaeza |
well, that's another problem |
| 15:40 |
Peacock |
not much anyone can do about same IPs |
| 15:40 |
Peacock |
or "brothers/sisters/daughters/sons" using same accounts for that matter |
| 15:41 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: I found that button, but now what? Also, my view origin seems to have shifted... |
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Jordach |
Tesseract, i dunno |
| 15:42 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, what are you doing |
| 15:42 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: do I have to hold shift or something? |
| 15:42 |
Jordach |
err, what |
| 15:42 |
Tesseract |
Trying to select individual verticies with my cursor. |
| 15:42 |
Jordach |
shift + right click |
| 15:43 |
Jordach |
if you get the wrong one, shift+ rmb again on the wrong vert |
| 15:43 |
Tesseract |
Thanks. |
| 15:43 |
* Jordach |
wishes object mode worked like that |
| 15:43 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, #blender |
| 15:45 |
Jordach |
if you have a really hard issue, Olson or JA12 might help out |
| 15:45 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Use errorstream instead of std::cout in pathfinder.cpp 75a139e62c 2013-08-16T08:42:12-07:00 http://git.io/fkqsZg |
| 15:46 |
* NekoGloop |
hugs alll the kittenses~ |
| 15:48 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, told you, the boys in #blender know more than me :D |
| 15:49 |
* sokomine |
watches a horde of kittens climb on nekogloop because they expect him to bear food |
| 15:51 |
* NekoGloop |
gives each kitten a fishy~ |
| 15:56 |
sokomine |
hm. did something regarding voxelmanip change recently or am i just blind today? |
| 15:56 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: What issue are you having with it? |
| 15:59 |
sokomine |
i've tried it for my mcimport mod already and it did work fine there to a degree. now i want it to generate a flat area with layers (dirt_with_grass, dirt, loam, stone etc.) and it doesn't seem to do anything |
| 15:59 |
sokomine |
see http://pastebin.com/xghENhLj |
| 15:59 |
sokomine |
might be that i'm blind today..... |
| 16:00 |
Tesseract |
Well the read_from_map lane if far too long... |
| 16:00 |
Tesseract |
line is* |
| 16:01 |
Tesseract |
You can pass MaxEdge and MinEdge directly to voxelarea:new. No need to copy it. |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix modstore pagecount 4095e8f383 2013-08-16T08:54:19-07:00 http://git.io/F4sGwQ |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Use get_texturepath() instead of get_gamepath()/../textures a2380bf76f 2013-08-16T08:44:39-07:00 http://git.io/oPwxuA |
| 16:01 |
sokomine |
ah. that's fine |
| 16:02 |
rubenwardy |
Git hub is crap |
| 16:02 |
Tesseract |
Run minetest.get_content_id before the loop and store it in a local variable. |
| 16:02 |
rubenwardy |
It does not show my read me, because it extension is MD not md |
| 16:02 |
* Tesseract |
rewrites the code. |
| 16:03 |
sokomine |
in this case, that may be less relevant because it's called in the outer loop. unless there's a good reason to rearrange the order of the loops |
| 16:05 |
sokomine |
which may be the case, given how voxelmanip works. but as long as i do need Voxelarea:index for each node, it may not matter |
| 16:05 |
sokomine |
what currently puzzles me is that nothing at all seems to happen |
| 16:05 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy, Linux filesystems are case sensitive :P |
| 16:05 |
kaeza |
foo.MD != foo.md |
| 16:05 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: Is it posible to pass it pos1 and pos2 instead of pos and dim? |
| 16:07 |
sokomine |
yes, could be done |
| 16:07 |
Tesseract |
And is comaptability with older versions of minetest important? |
| 16:07 |
sokomine |
but what i'd like to know right now is why nothing seems to happen. the map does not change |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
kaeza: pm |
| 16:08 |
sokomine |
rubenwardy: what did github do to you? it seems quite useful for hosting code |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
<rubenwardy> It does not show my read me, because it extension is MD not md |
| 16:08 |
Tesseract |
local layer_node_id = 126; -- air |
| 16:08 |
sokomine |
no, compatibility with older versions is not important. this needs place_schematic and voxelmanip - so a relatively new version is required anyway |
| 16:08 |
Tesseract |
Hardcoding the content id of air? |
| 16:09 |
sokomine |
you don't need to optimize the code yet. just tell me where i'm wrong/what i forgot :-) |
| 16:09 |
sokomine |
optimizing can come later when i'm entirely sure what i want to do |
| 16:09 |
Tesseract |
I can't read the code in it's current state, I will give you a rewritten version. |
| 16:10 |
sokomine |
ah yes, know that problem.... |
| 16:16 |
Peacock |
what's wrong with "lrfurn_sofa_left_top_"..colour..".png[transformR270" ? |
| 16:17 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, add a ^ in front of the [ |
| 16:17 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: a:index(x, z, y) might have something to do with it... |
| 16:18 |
Peacock |
aaah lol thanks |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, the position passed to VoxelArea:index() is absolute, not relative |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
... or was it the other way round? |
| 16:20 |
Tesseract |
PilzAdam: That too. |
| 16:20 |
PilzAdam |
nope, its absolute |
| 16:21 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, so you might want to add ep1.x and ep1.z to x and z |
| 16:21 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: Try this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5993334/ |
| 16:22 |
PilzAdam |
Tesseract, pos + x is wrong |
| 16:22 |
PilzAdam |
you need VoxelArea.MinEdge, which is equal to ep1 |
| 16:22 |
PilzAdam |
and you also only need the x part, so ep1.x + x |
| 16:23 |
Tesseract |
PilzAdam: Nope, MinEdge and MaxEdge are only used for initalization. The whole point of voxelarea is to ignore MinEdge and MaxEdge. |
| 16:24 |
Tesseract |
Or at least partly, it also lets you use coordinates. |
| 16:24 |
PilzAdam |
ehm |
| 16:24 |
PilzAdam |
the index counting starts at ep1, not pos |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
and the voxel area doesnt even know about pos, it only knows about ep1 and ep2 |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
ep1 is equal or lower than pos |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
your way will fail when ep1 is lower than pos |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 16:26 |
Tesseract |
voxelarea:index takes the position you want to set, which is pos + x/y/z voxelarea already knows about ep1 and ep2 and adjusts properly. |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
ah |
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PilzAdam |
sorry, I thought you want to loop through the whole voxelarea |
| 16:28 |
Tesseract |
But it is wrong, it should be pos.x/y/x + x/y/z |
| 16:33 |
sokomine |
ah. so i swapped y and z in index(...) obviously, and adding originpos seems to be necessary. works now! thank you |
| 16:34 |
sokomine |
with a:index(originpos.x+x, originpos.y+y, originpos.z+z); it does indeed work |
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sokomine |
ups - got a message that sql mapdata failed to save. when checking, found out that i indeed ran out of disk space. that message seems to be new :-) |
| 16:38 |
PilzAdam |
should be this one: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d718b0b34eda84744778fa12a01d5be5f03753d3 |
| 16:38 |
sokomine |
just wanted to say thank you to whoever did it :-) |
| 16:38 |
PilzAdam |
it has nothing to do with sql, though |
| 16:38 |
PilzAdam |
it only applies to other files, like env_meta.txt or player files |
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sokomine |
that's very fine! as i said, it helped a lot this time |
| 16:39 |
sokomine |
a good improvement. thank you for implementing it! |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
PSST... http://i.imgur.com/u7UwXdr.png |
| 16:40 |
sokomine |
tesseract: thank you for the hint regarding the index |
| 16:40 |
sokomine |
those seem a bit blurry, jordach |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
sokomine, it's like that on purpose |
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sokomine |
family of a griefer? or victims of a sudden unprovoked player-attack? |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
uh uh |
| 16:41 |
sokomine |
though then perhaps only their faces would be blurry |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105141#p105141 |
| 16:42 |
* Jordach |
closes blender before anyone finds out |
| 16:47 |
* Jordach |
smells pizza |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
Peacock, what version of Minetest are you using |
| 16:49 |
Peacock |
0.4.7 git y? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
just checking |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
and watch that terminal ;) |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
still loading \o/ |
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| 16:54 |
Jordach |
Peacock, can you TP me to one of the contries |
| 16:54 |
Peacock |
you wouldnt be able to build there anyways |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
btw, the lag, it's killing me |
| 16:56 |
Jordach |
aaannnnd open inventory - crasssh! |
| 16:56 |
Peacock |
more people than usual on |
| 16:57 |
Jordach |
BrandonReese, you about |
| 17:03 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: YW. |
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| 17:06 |
kaeza |
I have been randomly looking at some older topics... it seems Hybrid Dawg deletes his posts every once in a while lol |
| 17:08 |
* Jordach |
isn't cutout for minetest multiplayer |
| 17:09 |
Tesseract |
Is there a function to get a side of a node from it's facedir in builtin? |
| 17:10 |
kaeza |
as in, position? |
| 17:10 |
Tesseract |
Yes. |
| 17:10 |
BrandonReese |
Whats up Jordach? |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
BrandonReese, dont worry |
| 17:10 |
kaeza |
wasn't there a facedir_to_dir function? |
| 17:10 |
kaeza |
you could use that plus some vector path |
| 17:10 |
BrandonReese |
ok |
| 17:10 |
* Jordach |
has nearly forgotten how to multiplayer in minetest |
| 17:11 |
Tesseract |
I need facedir to pos... |
| 17:11 |
kaeza |
err... vector math |
| 17:11 |
Tesseract |
Hmmm, maybe with my vector helpers... |
| 17:13 |
Tesseract |
But that will probably give me the front, I need the back... |
| 17:13 |
kaeza |
invert the operation? |
| 17:14 |
Tesseract |
Why all the new pixelated avatars? |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
http://glsl.heroku.com/ |
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kaeza |
Tesseract, ? |
| 17:24 |
PilzAdam |
Tesseract, you mean at github? I think they use them as default |
| 17:25 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: they use them as default |
| 17:28 |
* Jordach |
feels sick |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
cheese really doesnt work with me :P |
| 17:29 |
PenguinDad |
which cheese :P |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
the one that's usually used on pizza |
| 17:30 |
PenguinDad |
That's bad :/ |
| 17:41 |
Evergreen |
Wow, I am so sorry that you have to miss out on the wonderfulness that is pizza |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, can I have your pizza then? |
| 17:42 |
* sokomine |
inspects the pizza and considers if it is eatible |
| 17:45 |
Leoneof |
no enemy in minetest yet? |
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PenguinDad |
without additional mods no |
| 17:47 |
Leoneof |
ok |
| 17:54 |
kaeza |
anybody free to do some testing? :) |
| 17:58 |
* NekoGloop |
noms kaeza |
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diemartin |
dafuq |
| 18:12 |
PenguinDad |
diemartin: which sort of testing? |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, PilzAdam: i can normally eat it fine |
| 18:17 |
Evergreen |
Oh |
| 18:17 |
Evergreen |
Aww.... |
| 18:18 |
Evergreen |
A question: what is everyone's favorite font(s)? I found a really nice website called theleagueofmovabletype.com |
| 18:18 |
Evergreen |
IT has really high quality open source fonts |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
ubuntu fonts are pretty good |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
I like "droid" too |
| 18:20 |
PenguinDad |
DeepGaze was very long here lol |
| 18:20 |
PenguinDad |
I like Roboto |
| 18:20 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, I dont care, giveme the pizza! |
| 18:21 |
Jordach |
/giveme* |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
18 players on LandRush :O |
| 18:22 |
PenguinDad |
Jordach:givePizza(PilzAdam) |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
2 segfaults when joining 2 servers... |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
that makes segfault22 |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
:P |
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| 18:42 |
SegFault22 |
ecube is still away... |
| 18:42 |
SegFault22 |
oh well. |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
ecube does have a life |
| 18:43 |
SegFault22 |
I know. But he's been auto-logging for several days |
| 18:44 |
SegFault22 |
which makes no sense, if he has a life, should he keep autoconnecting to IRC, while not even using it? |
| 18:44 |
* Jordach |
does that |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
sfan5 too |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
people leave themselves logged in to check messages |
| 18:45 |
Jordach |
(but reading is at the person's own free time) |
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| 18:52 |
PenguinDad |
is it a bug or a feature that you can replace grass and junglegrass with another nodes? |
| 18:53 |
Tesseract |
PenguinDad: It is deliberate. |
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Jordach |
cheers for the IP Calinou |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
* Calinou (~Calinou 106.209.118.80.rev.sfr.net) has joined >:D |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
syn flooding time </joke> |
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| 18:54 |
Calinou |
syn? |
| 18:55 |
* Jordach |
is more interested in finishing a lightshow in blender |
| 18:55 |
PenguinDad |
TCP handshake :D |
| 18:57 |
* Jordach |
wonders if PenguinDad is 12 |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
and what is this |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
oh fun, each light i add on to blender adds 50% rendering time |
| 19:00 |
PenguinDad |
Jordach: you know of black magic |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
\O/ |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
BLACK MAGIC.EXE |
| 19:00 |
* Jordach |
hates being 40,000 years old |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
immortality != good fun |
| 19:01 |
PilzAdam |
fun fact: you lose your penis at your 10,000th birthday |
| 19:03 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/tCk0Mvu.png |
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kaeza |
PenguinDad, mod testing |
| 19:05 |
PenguinDad |
kaeza: i have time |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
you meant minetesting |
| 19:06 |
* Jordach |
wonders why we're not test subjects |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
because minetest = a test |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
please tell me, there is cake |
| 19:06 |
SegFault22 |
It's sad that the only server with more than 6 people online is the LandRush server... all the others have 6 or less, most have 0... |
| 19:07 |
kaeza |
PenguinDad, do you have a world with homedecor? |
| 19:08 |
PenguinDad |
Yes |
| 19:09 |
SegFault22 |
Since singleplayer mode is so boring, Multiplayer is mostly what people go to when they want to play Minetest. But it is mostly empty, or the servers that aren't empty are unreliable/broken. Something should be done, but what is there to do?... |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
Jordach: you could reduce light detail |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
it looks like it's too high, shadows are very sharp |
| 19:10 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i plan on turning the lights on and off repeatably |
| 19:11 |
Jordach |
also: these are spotlight lamps |
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| 19:24 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Who is doing drums? |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
Sam/Fiola/PilzAdam |
| 19:28 |
Tesseract |
http://imgur.com/IYbY9Yh |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
MISSLES! |
| 19:36 |
* Jordach |
could draw a better one |
| 19:38 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Draw? You mean make a better model? The launcher needs work and I an working on textures for the controler now. |
| 19:38 |
kaeza |
Tesseract, ICBM? :D |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
i thought they kept those things in silos lol |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
huh, it looks like the launcher in star trek 7 |
| 19:40 |
Tesseract |
kaeza: Yes, I am adding missles to my nuke mod. |
| 19:40 |
Tesseract |
The issue is that it doesn't stay loaded. |
| 19:40 |
Peacock |
how would they arrive at their target without force loading? |
| 19:40 |
Peacock |
ahh, answers that |
| 19:40 |
Tesseract |
You have to fly up, or I will have to reduce the launch height. |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
but someone has to be at the destination? |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
imagine an ICBM + duplication bug |
| 19:42 |
Peacock |
you should schematisize a mushroom cloud :-) |
| 19:43 |
kaeza |
suddenly, this comes to mind http://31.media.tumblr.com/622fc691db4059e21472caf1aba85fc8/tumblr_mkgpp01Qs31s1ha05o1_r1_500.jpg |
| 19:44 |
Tesseract |
Hmmm, am animated mesh should do. |
| 19:45 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/871 cool :D |
| 19:47 |
Peacock |
screens or it didnt happen :p |
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| 19:52 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, http://i.imgur.com/2G14IOl.png |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
voxel ballistic missle |
| 19:54 |
Peacock |
vbm? |
| 19:54 |
Peacock |
sounds like visual basic mediocre lol |
| 19:56 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Nice. blend/x? |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
you want it uv wrapped too> |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
in a 64x32px png |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
that shouldnt take me long |
| 20:06 |
Tesseract |
http://i.imgur.com/dQcq5BG.png |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
faithful user spotted |
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| 20:09 |
Vazon |
hay |
| 20:09 |
Tesseract |
I currently use this to hit the target position: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5994026/ Does anyone know of a way to do it with acceleration? It just shoots up and then abck down straight at the target without speeding up or slowing down. |
| 20:10 |
Vazon |
Do what? |
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Vazon |
Anyone want to join my server i need some builders |
| 20:19 |
Peacock |
just check the Public box your bound to get one builder for every 30 griefers lol |
| 20:20 |
Vazon |
Yes i no that is why i asked here |
| 20:21 |
Peacock |
the proportions are about the same here :p |
| 20:22 |
kaeza |
griefing? someone called? :3 |
| 20:22 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 20:22 |
Vazon |
True but i can tell who to trust more than others |
| 20:23 |
Peacock |
the people you can most trust are the ones who use the same names everywhere |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
eg me |
| 20:23 |
Vazon |
Yes i no that |
| 20:23 |
Vazon |
What Jordach? |
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* Jordach |
always uses the same name |
| 20:24 |
kaeza |
don't trust the names too much :P |
| 20:24 |
Vazon |
O so do I |
| 20:24 |
Peacock |
except server admins themselves so they can get some P&Q on their worlds lol |
| 20:25 |
Vazon |
Lol well i use this name every where |
| 20:27 |
Peacock |
yay, made marble tiles (for countertops) now to make cabinet doors |
| 20:27 |
Vazon |
What are you doint pea cock? |
| 20:27 |
Vazon |
Peacock? |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
lol "pea cock" |
| 20:28 |
Peacock |
instead of using single-style kitchen cabinets, im making seperate countertops and cabinet doors you can use on any node |
| 20:28 |
Vazon |
Sorry i did not mean that |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
corn roaster! |
| 20:28 |
Vazon |
O cool |
| 20:28 |
Vazon |
I wish there was a node block that causes anti gravity Floating room |
| 20:28 |
Peacock |
not sure what texture to use for doors tho |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
Vazon: theorically possible |
| 20:29 |
Peacock |
well you can create a node with an abm that detects nearby players, attaches an invis. entity that goes up |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
no, just set gravity when entering node |
| 20:29 |
Peacock |
or that, not familiar with newer stuff lol |
| 20:30 |
Peacock |
gravity you can set the weight but not the direction right? |
| 20:30 |
Vazon |
O ok where do i go to create a node |
| 20:30 |
kaeza |
._. |
| 20:30 |
Vazon |
No i dont want the gravity to be changed every where just whne you contact one of thos node blocks |
| 20:31 |
Peacock |
a real stanford torus is prolly beyond the realm of possibilities tho |
| 20:32 |
Vazon |
O ok |
| 20:33 |
Peacock |
imagine a dyson sphere, the map would have to be 100* as big lol |
| 20:33 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 20:33 |
Peacock |
lol |
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| 20:34 |
aldobr |
hi all |
| 20:34 |
Vazon |
Hi |
| 20:35 |
aldobr |
kaeza: ? |
| 20:35 |
aldobr |
i finished a g-code parser |
| 20:35 |
aldobr |
it outputs a list of points |
| 20:35 |
aldobr |
now i need to understand how the schematic api works |
| 20:35 |
kaeza |
aldobr, ¿ |
| 20:36 |
aldobr |
hi kaeza |
| 20:36 |
aldobr |
im working on a form of integration between minetest and freecad |
| 20:36 |
kaeza |
sup |
| 20:36 |
aldobr |
so people can draw things in cad and export it to minetest |
| 20:36 |
aldobr |
my gcode parser is done |
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aldobr |
now i need to output the data in schematic form |
| 20:37 |
aldobr |
so it can be imported into minetest |
| 20:37 |
aldobr |
where is the schematic api help ? |
| 20:38 |
aldobr |
freecad -> (stl file) -> Slic3r -> (gcode file) -> gcode2mt -> (set of x,y,z points) -> minetest |
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| 20:38 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 20:39 |
kaeza |
<insert "yo dawg" joke here> |
| 20:39 |
Peacock |
send a postcard while on this trip :P |
| 20:39 |
aldobr |
whats lol about it ? :P |
| 20:39 |
Peacock |
lol -> very scenic route :P |
| 20:39 |
Peacock |
mind you mine isn't much easier either |
| 20:40 |
kaeza |
ah binvox? |
| 20:40 |
Peacock |
yeah you have to convert shit back and forth |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, finished texturing and UV |
| 20:40 |
aldobr |
oh |
| 20:40 |
aldobr |
now i found binvox |
| 20:40 |
aldobr |
wtf |
| 20:40 |
aldobr |
all the work for nothing |
| 20:41 |
aldobr |
does minetest accept minecraft schematic ? |
| 20:41 |
Peacock |
nope |
| 20:41 |
Peacock |
well i think theres a converter, but i dont know if it does schems or maps |
| 20:41 |
kaeza |
maps I think |
| 20:41 |
Tesseract |
There is a converter for legacy maps. |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, http://i.imgur.com/4LrECsJ.png |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
so youd have to learn to read the binary data |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
the UV didn't wish to line up right |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
aldobr, for the .mts file format you may want to ask hmmmm |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
and there's still the issue of obtaining the sourcecode for the latest binary (GPL stuff) |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
dunno if there's a published document about it |
| 20:42 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Nice. |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
you want it? |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
or use the old binary and dist that one's sourcecode, though it doesnt have as many formats |
| 20:43 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: Yes. |
| 20:43 |
aldobr |
well.. |
| 20:43 |
aldobr |
i've done the preliminary work using pascal |
| 20:43 |
aldobr |
i will translate it to lua and release |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
if youre nearly done, stick with what gives you the least license headaches :P |
| 20:44 |
Tesseract |
The only major issues now are that the rocket stays straight up the whole way (can't set pitch), it gets unloaded, and t shoots straight at the target after going up 50. |
| 20:45 |
Peacock |
Tesseract https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606 |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, what blender version are you using, as i'm using 2.67b atm |
| 20:46 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/871#issuecomment-22792151 :| |
| 20:46 |
nore |
Tesseract, you can use voxel manip to force load world |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
dammit sfan5 |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
y u have disconnect |
| 20:47 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: 2.68a |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
good |
| 20:47 |
Tesseract |
nore: I know, but I will have to continually load it every step. |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
Tesseract, http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/missle.zip |
| 20:47 |
Vazon |
Hay guys how do i select many nodes at once and delete them on my server? |
| 20:48 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: I know of that pull, but it isn't merged and it is hacky. |
| 20:48 |
Tesseract |
Vazon: Get WorldEdit //pos1 //pos2 //set air |
| 20:48 |
Vazon |
We have world edit i believe hold on let me check |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
Vadtec, /mods |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
do that in minetest |
| 20:49 |
Vazon |
Yep we have it |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
and it will list em all |
| 20:49 |
Peacock |
how is it hacky? |
| 20:50 |
Vazon |
Um it didnt work Tesseract |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
Vadtec, /grant Vazon all |
| 20:51 |
Vazon |
Ok well i thought i had all but ok |
| 20:51 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: It adds entities to the list of players used for loading. |
| 20:51 |
Vazon |
Ok then what do i do? |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
well yeah you'd kinda have to fake players cuz the engine wouldn't recognize anything else to make the world load :p |
| 20:53 |
Vazon |
What is the exact command to make things air |
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Jordach |
Vazon, //pset |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
then punch two blocks |
| 20:54 |
Vazon |
Ok |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
then //set air to remove them |
| 20:54 |
Vazon |
Thanks |
| 20:55 |
Vazon |
Nope didnt work :/ |
| 20:55 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: The proper way would be to add a list of things that load the world and how much they load, players would be added to that list and entities could specify the range to load. |
| 20:56 |
nore_ |
Tesseract, it is possible to load specigic blocks with vixel manipulator if you have git version |
| 20:56 |
Peacock |
how does vmanip load chunks? |
| 20:56 |
kaeza |
Vazon, Jordach, "//p set", not "//pset" |
| 20:57 |
Vazon |
O ok |
| 20:57 |
nore_ |
you read from map a node somewhere, and the block containing that node will be loaded |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Changes to support the latest schematic probability specification. 272541c9da 2013-08-16T13:57:35-07:00 http://git.io/YhhbBw |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add worldedit_limited. 9ab52df56a 2013-08-16T13:56:38-07:00 http://git.io/sWm13w |
| 20:58 |
Vazon |
Omg none are working everyone the ones you are giveing me are wrong |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
Vazon, worldedit needs to be installed server side |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
we dont have client side mods |
| 20:59 |
Vazon |
Yes i know it is it was one of the first things we put on |
| 21:00 |
Peacock |
w/ client side mods i think hacked clients would become the least of our concerns lol |
| 21:01 |
Vazon |
ok i use the select thing on the nodeprotection and it gives me when i type /set air i get air=<not set> |
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| 21:03 |
Vazon |
How do i set air? |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
/set air |
| 21:03 |
Vazon |
did you read the one i just posted? |
| 21:03 |
Vazon |
[17:01] <Vazon> ok i use the select thing on the nodeprotection and it gives me when i type /set air i get air=<not set> |
| 21:03 |
kaeza |
*//set air |
| 21:03 |
kaeza |
double '/' |
| 21:04 |
Vazon |
that gives me /set invaild command |
| 21:04 |
Peacock |
read what kaeza said |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
then worldedit is not properly installed :3 |
| 21:04 |
Vazon |
um ok hold on maby its not activated |
| 21:04 |
Peacock |
/set |
| 21:04 |
Peacock |
shit |
| 21:04 |
Peacock |
* //set |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
////////////////set |
| 21:05 |
Peacock |
you have to double slash (like emos do) |
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* kaeza |
wonders why WE commands use double slash |
| 21:05 |
Vazon |
Omg yes i no and it fails |
| 21:05 |
Peacock |
the lE37ness |
| 21:05 |
Peacock |
? |
| 21:05 |
Vazon |
Ok yes it isnt installed right |
| 21:06 |
Peacock |
god knows i stuck multinode in the inventory and never looked back |
| 21:08 |
Vazon |
Ok i fixed it but now it shut down the server |
| 21:09 |
Peacock |
improvement or? |
| 21:09 |
Vazon |
No i didnt do it it did it's self |
| 21:10 |
Peacock |
how did you install it? modstore or ye olde fashion way? |
| 21:10 |
nore_ |
it is perhaps worldedit's version checkee |
| 21:10 |
nore_ |
if you have an old mineresr version, like 0.4.7 stable, with a new version of worldedit |
| 21:10 |
Peacock |
shutdown isnt quite as useful as a simple warning though |
| 21:10 |
Vazon |
Yes whne i type //p set it tells me to click to nodes by punching then when i do it shuts down the server |
| 21:11 |
nore_ |
no, it should display a message |
| 21:11 |
nore_ |
then it crashes |
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Vazon |
O ok |
| 21:11 |
Peacock |
if you have to punch to set markers, how do select air? |
| 21:11 |
nore_ |
so this is a new but a bit old version of we |
| 21:12 |
kaeza |
Peacock, magic |
| 21:12 |
Peacock |
wet chicken magic? |
| 21:12 |
kaeza |
...or //pos1 or //pos2 |
| 21:12 |
Vazon |
Yes im use in the 4.7 stable so how do i find the older version |
| 21:12 |
nore_ |
yiu nees to update minetest or use an older version of we |
| 21:12 |
nore_ |
it is perhaps in the forum post |
| 21:12 |
Vazon |
i tried the newer version and it sucks so yea im useing the stable |
| 21:13 |
Vazon |
ok |
| 21:13 |
Tesseract |
nore_: The VM trick isn't working... |
| 21:14 |
Peacock |
simple, write a bot to pose as player, attach it to missile, should be less hacky :P |
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Menche |
lol, look who GGABOOK's 5th favorite forum member is: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105868#p105868 |
| 21:18 |
Vazon |
Ok fixed miner installed the most recent version |
| 21:19 |
Vazon |
I had to install the sable 4.7 |
| 21:19 |
Peacock |
sable -> translator -> sand |
| 21:19 |
Vazon |
stable sorry |
| 21:20 |
nore_ |
Tesseract, what is your code? |
| 21:20 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 21:20 |
nore_ |
did you call read_from_map? |
| 21:22 |
Peacock |
wtf, i meant to draw drawers but i got a stair pattern instead :/ lol |
| 21:28 |
Tesseract |
nore_: Yes. |
| 21:29 |
Tesseract |
local p1, p2 = vector.subtract(pos, 16), vector.add(pos, 16) |
| 21:29 |
Tesseract |
vm:read_from_map(p1, p2) |
| 21:29 |
Tesseract |
Called on every step. |
| 21:30 |
nore_ |
is pos integer? |
| 21:32 |
Tesseract |
nore_: No... |
| 21:32 |
Peacock |
http://s15.postimg.org/94mokf3rv/screenshot_2299196847.png |
| 21:32 |
Peacock |
not crazy about the texture of the cabinet doors tho |
| 21:33 |
thexyz |
Menche: as usual, no one loves me ;_; |
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* NekoGloop |
stabs thexyz |
| 21:34 |
nore_ |
tesseract, try to change the coordinates to integers, with pos.x=math.floor (pos.x), etc |
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| 21:35 |
Tesseract |
nore_: I did vector.round and it still fails. |
| 21:36 |
nore_ |
what does print (dump (p1)) says, and same for p2 and pos? |
| 21:37 |
Tesseract |
Already did that, it seems normal. |
| 21:37 |
nore_ |
and what is precisely the problem? |
| 21:38 |
Tesseract |
I even tried with a range if 64. It only slows down minetest. The problem is that it unloads. |
| 21:39 |
nore_ |
you mean, the code unloads the area once it is out of range? |
| 21:39 |
Tesseract |
Likely Minetest sees that those blocks can be unloaded on the next step and unloads them. |
| 21:40 |
nore_ |
and with that code in get_staticdata? |
| 21:40 |
Tesseract |
They were loaded on the last step, but now have no players near them, and therefore they are unloaded. |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: hm? |
| 21:40 |
Tesseract |
Last I tried get_staticdata was never called on unload. |
| 21:40 |
Jordach |
i was uploading to your service as it disconnected |
| 21:40 |
nore_ |
tesseract, there is an unloaded block timeout setting, so the bug is not there |
| 21:41 |
Tesseract |
nore_: I think that is client-side. |
| 21:41 |
nore_ |
what do you mean, not called |
| 21:41 |
nore_ |
tesseract, does it work with #606? |
| 21:41 |
Tesseract |
As in I put a print() in it, punched some TNT, went away, and nothing was printed. |
| 21:42 |
Tesseract |
I imagine it will, but this should work with mainstream Minetest. |
| 21:44 |
* Jordach |
thinks browsers aren't meant for YT playback |
| 21:44 |
* Jordach |
then pastes YT link into VLC |
| 21:44 |
Jordach |
much better |
| 21:44 |
Peacock |
#606 might be hacky, but its less hacky than the alterntives :p |
| 21:44 |
Jordach |
less crackle, more awesome :D |
| 21:44 |
Tesseract |
nore_: Is it rebased over a recent version? |
| 21:44 |
Peacock |
jordach what about snap and pop? |
| 21:45 |
nore_ |
nope |
| 21:45 |
nore_ |
i am looking at the code right now... |
| 21:45 |
Jordach |
Peacock, in my browser, youtube cracks and pops when there is CPU laod |
| 21:45 |
Jordach |
load* |
| 21:45 |
Peacock |
disable hw accel |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
Peacock, hm |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
might try that |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
but i needed to convert a youtube video for audio |
| 21:46 |
Tesseract |
nore_: Can you rebase it? |
| 21:46 |
nore_ |
tesseract, it does the unload every 2 seconds |
| 21:47 |
nore_ |
tesseract, not now, i am not on my computer |
| 21:47 |
Tesseract |
The VM trick seems to let it go a little higher, so that would explain that. |
| 21:48 |
Tesseract |
Unless every block has a timestamp that read_from_map resets. |
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nore_ |
and force loading that area with minetest.after? |
| 21:50 |
nore_ |
minetest.after (0, ..) |
| 21:50 |
nore_ |
so area is loaded on next step |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i'm going to have some fun |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
6496 frames \o/ |
| 21:51 |
nore_ |
and I checked, get_staticdata is called |
| 21:52 |
nore_ |
it might be a typo, check the function name |
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* Jordach |
wants to start work on the band animatics, then finish with a crowd |
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nore_ |
so, what does it give with minetest.after? |
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| 22:05 |
nore_ |
from what I saw in the code, you won't be able to activate that entity again without modifying the engine |
| 22:06 |
nore_ |
because objects are activated again by the same coee that deactivates them |
| 22:06 |
nore_ |
and read_from_map will be useless, since it only reads the map, but does nit activate objects in it |
| 22:06 |
nore_ |
bbl |
| 22:29 |
thexyz |
better formspecs https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/tests/test_formspice.lua |
| 22:31 |
kaeza |
thexyz, that seems better than stuffing everything in a string |
| 22:31 |
kaeza |
+directly |
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* kaeza |
also read line 14 as 'value="acababa"' (sort of "it came" in spanish :P ) |
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thexyz |
kaeza: and this is the main goal of stress, to be better |
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* Jordach |
found KDE for Windows |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
any plans to merge this into minetest? |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
(like the vector helpers) |
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thexyz |
no this will be a separate mod |
| 22:43 |
thexyz |
also, there are vector helpers in minetest |
| 22:43 |
kaeza |
ehh... that's what I said... |
| 22:43 |
thexyz |
oh, yeah |
| 22:44 |
thexyz |
anyway, no, there are no such plans |
| 22:44 |
thexyz |
last time I proposed table-based formspecs holywar happened |
| 22:45 |
kaeza |
I think they are far better; more verbose, and easier to edit (you don't have to remember what every number means) |
| 22:46 |
kaeza |
strings should be reserved for the internal communication between client/server |
| 22:46 |
thexyz |
and you don't have to worry about escaping |
| 22:46 |
thexyz |
I'd prefer a binary-based format plus a bunch of lua helpers |
| 22:47 |
thexyz |
because formspecs are unreadable anyway |
| 22:47 |
thexyz |
I'm curious though, any mod there using Minetest's vectors? |
| 22:48 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja uses them heavily IIRC |
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| 22:49 |
kaeza |
other than that, I don't know of others |
| 22:49 |
SegFault22 |
in 2 minutes, ecube will be idle for 24 hours (his client will have been connected for an entire day) |
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PenguinDad |
i know somebody who has been idle for more than one week |
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proller |
thexyz, maybe... json for formspec? |
| 22:53 |
thexyz |
proller: it'll be even harder to type in lua |
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PenguinDad |
bye guys |
| 22:55 |
sdzen |
formspecs are absurd |
| 22:58 |
proller |
+1 |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Diagonal liquid animation 3ee8098708 2013-08-16T16:00:36-07:00 http://git.io/woclxQ |
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proller |
to discussion: http://dev.minetest.net/Formspec_json |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Send player damage to all clients and apply [brighten 787b43b218 2013-08-16T16:23:25-07:00 http://git.io/boWkwA |
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Peacock |
n-e know ServerBrasileiro? |
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