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00:07 hoodedice joined #minetest
00:07 hoodedice !seen Peacock
00:07 MinetestBot hoodedice: Sorry, I haven't seen peacock around.
00:07 hoodedice !seen hoodedice
00:07 MinetestBot hoodedice: hoodedice was last seen at 2013-08-06 00:05:04 UTC on #minetest
00:07 hoodedice (aka egomaniac)
00:09 sdzen !seen Peacock
00:09 MinetestBot sdzen: Sorry, I haven't seen peacock around.
00:09 sdzen its case sensitive you nit
00:09 sdzen :(
00:10 VanessaE lol
00:11 hoodedice =)
00:11 sdzen muavebic is right there!
00:11 sdzen PM him!
00:11 VanessaE does anyone have access to some good, high-resolution imagery for cornstalks, wheat, etc. that I can use to add support for the default farming mod?
00:11 hoodedice *Not necessary*
00:12 VanessaE I can't find anything useful on the web (that has a permissive license)
00:12 hoodedice I don't. I'm not a farmer
00:12 * sdzen looks outside
00:12 sdzen I know where I can take some
00:13 VanessaE oh cool
00:14 VanessaE tall grass too
00:14 hoodedice Tall grass...
00:14 hoodedice No.
00:14 VanessaE next available pictures I can take won't be for a while, not sure when corn-growing season is here
00:14 hoodedice =)
00:14 VanessaE (I know where to find the stuff, just don't know if it's ready for pictures or not)
00:14 hoodedice I can take pictures of corns.
00:14 hoodedice (corn)
00:15 hoodedice But you'll have to pay me for the 1500 km trip till there
00:15 sokomine good question...pictures of it would be good. we can use some of diffrent stages of growing
00:15 hoodedice (train)
00:15 sokomine that far away?
00:15 VanessaE hoodedice: hah!
00:15 VanessaE :)
00:15 hoodedice Oh, stages? 1500 x 4
00:15 hoodedice Well, in my place, we mostly have rice
00:16 sokomine that's ok as well. we do not have rice in mt yet
00:16 hoodedice Again, that is 30 km from the Urban center
00:16 sokomine the farming mod uses so much water there's no problem to grow rice with that as well
00:16 hoodedice =)
00:16 sokomine then build some good urban houses :-)
00:16 sokomine (no way to escape :))
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00:20 Jordach VanessaE, google.
00:20 hoodedice Jordach, licences
00:20 Jordach as in the date for corn growing
00:20 VanessaE Jordach: been there, done that, found nothing with a permissive license that was also high-resolution enough to use
00:20 VanessaE oh
00:21 Jordach VanessaE, IOU one apology
00:21 VanessaE ?
00:21 Jordach it is 1am here
00:21 hoodedice ...?
00:21 * Jordach is also building a city in default minetest_game
00:25 Jordach VanessaE, i'm building a singleplayer creative city on my own
00:25 VanessaE what was the apology for?
00:25 Jordach <VanessaE> Jordach: been there, done that, found nothing with a permissive license that was also high-resolution enough to use
00:25 VanessaE oh ok
00:25 Jordach you failed to read my message
00:25 * VanessaE <-- thickheaded
00:26 hoodedice I hate living on the other side of the world
00:27 hoodedice Everything is SO laggy
00:27 Jordach because everything is upside down
00:27 hoodedice -.-
00:28 Jordach yup; im fucking off to bed now
00:28 * Jordach is tired
00:28 hoodedice How does one fuck off to bed?
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01:09 PilzAdam bye
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02:16 Kacey well... its like chernobyl all over again in my test world...
02:17 Kacey i made technic neuclear reactors actually explode, with a good sized radius... bad idea
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02:38 * sokomine looks frightened outside and hopes that the lightning will not damage her machine
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02:46 sokomine if anyone is intrested in playing around a bit and creating some random villages (if you can call them villages....important structures like church, mill, inn etc are still missing!), you can find it at the usual place
02:46 sokomine the mod needs a *flat* world
02:47 sokomine kacey: really sounds like a bad idea :-) fortionately, they don't explode that often in rl
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03:09 bas080 texture.png^[transformR270 is handy, is there also a flip function?
03:10 bas080 Why is it not in the lua_api.txt? or am I missing something?
03:19 kahrl bas080: http://dev.minetest.net/texture
03:22 bas080 ty kahrl, i couldn't find it.
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03:22 Niften Hey guys
03:23 Niften ^^
03:23 Niften Anyone here?
03:25 kahrl bas080: I just fixed a few things in that page, you might wanna reload
03:25 bas080 I was thinking FR? huh?
03:25 bas080 :P
03:27 sokomine fr?
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03:28 Niften Hey everyone
03:28 Niften Is anyone there?
03:28 Niften :(
03:28 Niften :(
03:31 bas080 french
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04:22 VanessaE zzz
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05:55 * NekoGloop noms bas080
05:56 VanessaE heh
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07:42 VanessaE bbl
07:43 sfan5 !ban *!*@65.20.50.*
07:43 sfan5 MinetestBot!
07:43 MinetestBot sfan5!
07:43 sfan5 MinetestBot!
07:43 MinetestBot sfan5!
07:43 sfan5 !ban *!*@65.20.50.*
07:43 sfan5 !oo
07:43 sfan5 !op
07:44 sfan5 derp
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08:00 thexyz can we please not use opping bots unless services are down?
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10:27 PenguinDad hi Jordach
10:27 Calinou hi
10:27 Jordach PenguinDad, do you have that script that on join: hi <%N>
10:28 PenguinDad Jordach: cool idea for a script but no
10:28 DS_ hi cayou
10:31 Jordach OH JESUS
10:31 Jordach Nokia is working on a battery charger that doesnt need mains or Green Alternatives
10:31 PenguinDad OH SAM
10:33 Jordach TIL Nokia innovates more than Apple
10:34 Jordach HOLY SHIT! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1sbvb4xeeerd0tg/screenshot_356446763.png
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10:59 sfan5 !op
10:59 sfan5 !deop
11:00 PenguinDad Good MinetestBot
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11:02 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:03 Peacock guten morgen
11:03 Peacock Peacock.coffee()
11:03 thexyz Jordach: apple innowhat?
11:03 Peacock hmm, english library missing :/ lol
11:03 thexyz do they?
11:04 Jordach thexyz, nokia crammed a 45 Megapixel Sensor into a phone
11:04 thexyz useless
11:04 Peacock wait, if i just got up, and pilzadam just got up, that means pilzadam must have been partying late last night :p
11:04 thexyz but anyway, why did you think apple innovates?
11:04 Jordach thexyz, i was taking the piss
11:04 Jordach nokia does make awesome things
11:05 PenguinDad Peacock: i think more programming than partying :P
11:05 Peacock when you said apple i thought you meant (http://www.empireonline.com/images/promotions/movie-recipes/american-pie.jpg)
11:05 Kray the amount of pixels doesn't matter when the optics are shit
11:05 Jordach Kray, they also added custom hardware; carl-zeiss glass; ball bearings in place of springs
11:05 Jordach some other shit
11:06 thexyz that's a good thing
11:06 Peacock who wouldn't prefer having balls to springs? :p
11:06 thexyz now i can post photos of my food in GLORIOUS ULTRA HD
11:06 Peacock lol
11:06 Jordach xenon flash too
11:06 * Peacock watches for thexyz on pinterest
11:06 Jordach Nokia Pureview 808 btw (or Lumia 1020)
11:08 Peacock dumbphones 4 the win
11:08 Calinou lolnokia
11:08 Calinou nokia is dead, they picked winblows phone, and fake their ads as hell
11:08 Jordach Calinou, still doing a better job than Apple
11:08 Calinou (they claimed some phone from them had exceptional video recording, it was fake)
11:08 thexyz apple ain't dead though
11:08 Calinou also, megapixels != quality
11:09 PilzAdam phone war today?
11:09 Peacock why not
11:09 Peacock :o
11:09 thexyz oh sure
11:09 Peacock Peacock.popcorn()
11:09 PenguinDad tommorow Font war :)
11:09 thexyz your favorite mobile os sucks
11:09 Peacock my last pay-as-go phone i registered it to Pablo Escobar :p
11:10 thexyz that's all
11:10 Peacock (he's been dead for some time) :P
11:10 Peacock they all suck :P
11:10 thexyz that's true
11:10 Peacock you can do a thousand things with phones now, except take/hear phone calls properly
11:11 thexyz any objections?
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11:11 Peacock motion passes
11:11 Jordach http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/15/nokia_lumia_1020_technical_walkthrough/
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11:12 Peacock is the lua menu server tab bug fixed? i would recompile to get rid of that lol
11:12 sfan5 Peacock:delete()
11:12 Peacock delete the lua menu? sounds like a good idea lol
11:13 sfan5 no, delete yourself
11:13 Peacock you wish lol
11:13 sfan5 foo:bar() is the same as foo.bar(foo)
11:14 Peacock seriously though, i start up minetest (on server tab), worlds not there, switch tabs and back, now they're there, can you reproduce?
11:17 Peacock btw, Peacock:_on_destruct()  minetest.add_item('Peacock') end :p
11:18 Peacock well, ill post a thread about the server tab and see who else is having it
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11:22 nore hi all
11:23 Peacock howdy
11:26 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.registered_biomes 14eab22d81 2013-08-06T04:24:54-07:00 http://git.io/_6o2TA
11:26 Jordach wait a second: both Calinou AND nore are french
11:26 Peacock <--- as well
11:26 Calinou Jordach: same ISP too :D
11:26 Jordach BULLSHIT
11:26 Calinou hi nore
11:26 Jordach Peacock, that's bull
11:26 nore hi
11:26 Jordach you sound more obnoxious american than french
11:27 nore Jordach:you're right
11:27 Calinou nore doesn't sound frenchy at all, true
11:27 Calinou :>
11:27 nore Calinou: no I'm not at home... another ISP there
11:27 Peacock like the brits' reputation is much better than the americans'... :P
11:27 nore Calinou: why not?
11:28 Calinou speaks decent english :P
11:28 Calinou xchat :D
11:28 nore because I read a lot of english
11:28 Peacock i speak decent english since i spent ten years in Toronto lol
11:28 Calinou same
11:28 nore and a lot of computer science and mathematics articles
11:29 Jordach we should actually have a mumble day where instead of IRC; we use mumble
11:29 nore that do not exist in french
11:29 Peacock ugh, voice chat lol
11:29 nore I do not speak good english, only write and read... ;)
11:29 Peacock why do i get the impression it would rapidly become a contest of who can speak the loudest lol
11:30 Jordach Von Neumann Architecture anyone
11:30 Jordach nore, i'm studying Computer Science
11:31 nore Jordach, I will too
11:31 Jordach Jordach.Cup_of_Tea(Drink, 40)
11:31 Jordach 40 replenishes thirst level by 40%
11:31 nore Jordach, Jordach:Cup_of_Tea(Drink, 40)
11:31 nore not .
11:32 nore at least, if this is lua
11:32 * Jordach is a python person
11:32 * Jordach HATES Lua at times
11:32 nore I make a lot of Python too
11:33 nore one or two years ago, I even tried to make a clone of MC in Python
11:33 nore using software rendering
11:33 PenguinDad in python 0 is false in lua is it true
11:33 Peacock i can write python if i have to, but i hate it lol
11:33 nore was a bit slow with only 50 nodes...
11:34 nore and of course, no texturing
11:34 Peacock so much inconsistency between versions
11:34 sfan5 !meow
11:34 MinetestBot meow
11:34 sfan5 MinetestBot: Y U so slow?
11:34 PilzAdam sfan5, oh no....
11:34 sfan5 !meow
11:34 MinetestBot meow
11:35 nore who coded MinetestBot?
11:35 * sfan5 shows his hand
11:35 nore how many lines?
11:35 Jordach http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7365/n3p4.png
11:35 * Jordach shits bricks
11:35 sfan5 nore: http://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
11:35 sfan5 Jordach: you shit brits?
11:36 Jordach plol
11:36 Peacock lol
11:36 sfan5 plol
11:36 nore 2000 lines?
11:36 Peacock brits on benefits </rap>
11:36 nore that's a lot
11:36 nore Minetestbot!
11:36 nore MinetestBot!
11:36 MinetestBot nore!
11:37 nore Is MinetestBot case-sensitive?
11:37 PenguinDad !meow
11:37 PenguinDad nore: i think so
11:37 sfan5 PenguinDad: !meow is only for me
11:38 Jordach !meow
11:38 PenguinDad why not for NekoGloop?
11:38 nore sfan5: as is !op ?
11:38 Jordach !op
11:38 Jordach strange
11:38 sfan5 nore: no, only for me, only me
11:38 sfan5 Jordach: umm
11:38 Jordach * unaffiliated/jordach :is now your hidden host (set by services.)
11:39 nore !op sfan5
11:39 nore does not work...
11:39 sfan5 nore: no, you have to _be_ sfan5 to use it
11:39 nore sfan5: can you do !op someone ?
11:40 sfan5 Jordach: forgot the *!*@ when I updated the config
11:40 sfan5 nore: sure
11:40 sfan5 !op Jordach
11:40 * Jordach hands MinetestBot several kittens
11:40 PilzAdam nore, try /nick sfanfive
11:40 nore and !deop MinetestBot
11:40 sfan5 sure
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11:40 Peacock looks like the speaking clock gave up :p
11:40 sfan5 !deop MinetestBot
11:40 sfan5 ^ nore
11:40 Jordach !deop Jordach
11:40 Jordach there we go
11:40 sfan5 !voice nore
11:41 thexyz plz stahp
11:41 Jordach sfan5, ninja'd
11:41 Peacock lol
11:41 sfan5 Jordach: how did you know I was about to !deop you?
11:41 PilzAdam sfan5 is abusing the bot, I vote for a ban
11:41 MinetestBot I vote against a ban
11:41 Jordach FYI; you can kick an entire channel
11:41 thexyz how?
11:42 Jordach even kickban
11:42 Jordach Calinou did it in #minetest-mods
11:42 Peacock im just curious why there are two bots?
11:42 MinetestBot Oh, wait, I changed my mind: I vote for a ban, too
11:42 Jordach one for backup
11:42 nore sfan5: how do you control MinetestBot like that?
11:42 thexyz what a shitbag
11:42 Peacock cant you code one to do the functions of both?
11:42 thexyz Calinou is
11:42 MinetestBot I'm very confused today.... I vote against a ban
11:42 thexyz wait, why'd he do that?
11:42 sfan5 nore: admin.py
11:42 Jordach MinetestBot, KITTENS!
11:42 sfan5 !help
11:42 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
11:42 nore Minetestbot!
11:42 sfan5 ^ nore
11:43 nore MinetestBot!
11:43 MinetestBot nore!
11:43 MinetestBot Jordach, KITTENS!
11:43 Jordach thexyz, because Calinou tried to remove chanserv protect
11:43 Jordach meow
11:43 MinetestBot Hmm... the cup of coffee just opened my eyes: I vote for a ban
11:43 Jordach sfan5, slice PilzAdam's use of !msg off
11:43 MinetestBot MinetestBot:remove("coffee")   I vote against a ban
11:43 Peacock Peacock.send(MinetestBot,{coffee=true})
11:44 Calinou thexyz: minetest-mods was pointless
11:44 * Calinou continues healing the nearby heavy while being shot by 3 enemies at once
11:44 thexyz Calinou: and?
11:44 * MinetestBot shoots Calinou
11:44 thexyz people were enjoying it
11:44 Jordach i often hid in here when i wasnt ready for #minetest
11:45 PenguinDad !b64e MinetestBot
11:45 MinetestBot TWluZXRlc3RCb3Q=
11:45 Peacock this is #minetest
11:45 sfan5 *sparta
11:45 Calinou this is #spartaaaaaaa
11:45 Jordach THIS! IS! MINETEST!
11:45 nore !b64d TWluZXRlc3RCb3Q=
11:45 MinetestBot MinetestBot
11:45 Jordach !b64d MinetestBot!
11:45 MinetestBot Jordach: Failed to handle data
11:46 Jordach uh-oh
11:46 nore !b64e MinetestBot!
11:46 MinetestBot TWluZXRlc3RCb3Qh
11:46 nore !b64d TWluZXRlc3RCb3Qh
11:46 MinetestBot MinetestBot!
11:46 Jordach loop dammit
11:46 nore why doesn't it loop?
11:46 sfan5 it won't
11:46 PenguinDad !b16e MinetestBot
11:46 MinetestBot 4D696E6574657374426F74
11:46 sfan5 It doesn't recieve its own messages
11:46 Peacock does anyone remember when we used to talk to people on here? XD
11:46 sfan5 I did this with 2 bots......
11:46 sfan5 once
11:47 nore ok, we need a second bot
11:47 Peacock shadowbot?
11:47 * sfan5 has Ausmeribot
11:48 thexyz because what could possibly go wrong
11:48 PenguinDad MinetestBot: you really remember to etchreclolot
11:48 Peacock bots kicking ppl and eachother for flooding? XD
11:48 sfan5 in case anyone wonders what AusmeriBot is http://redd.it/1ibu7f
11:48 thexyz we need http://pisg.sourceforge.net/
11:49 Peacock arent the chats logged already?
11:49 sfan5 yes,
11:49 nore Peacock: yes, why?
11:49 sfan5 but there aren't any statistics
11:49 Peacock so what doyou need pisg for?
11:50 Peacock oh
11:50 Jordach this channel once hit 102 users
11:50 nore once?
11:50 Peacock to collect stats on how much human input / bot input lol
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11:50 nore do you mean 102 connected at once?
11:51 Jordach nore, to this channel yes
11:51 Peacock 22 of those were landmine accounts :p
11:51 PenguinDad we really need etchreclolot :P
11:52 Peacock !query etchreclolot
11:52 nore hi MinetestBot
11:52 MinetestBot sup nore
11:52 Jordach Jordach.Change_Reactor_Core(Plutonium, Weapons_Grade)
11:52 nore why sup and not hi?
11:52 Jordach there we go; full power again
11:52 Peacock its ebonics day on #minetest
11:52 Peacock sup y'all
11:53 sfan5 thexyz: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest.html
11:53 sfan5 ^ Jordach,
11:53 nore !wik needs to be updated, no?
11:53 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Needs_to_be_updated,_no?
11:54 Jordach dammit, VanessaE has more lines than me; BRB
11:54 PenguinDad !title
11:54 Jordach for i < 100000000000000, print i
11:54 MinetestBot PenguinDad: #minetest @ SomeIRCNet stats by MAINTAINER
11:54 sfan5 Is artur99 stupid or just asking too many questions? 33.6% lines contained a question!
11:54 sfan5 ^ haha
11:55 thexyz sfan5: good
11:55 nore it looks in wiki.minetest.com instead of wiki.minetest.net
11:55 Jordach Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 9 times.
11:55 sfan5 Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 20 times.
11:55 thexyz i love how PilzAdam spams his builds
11:55 * Jordach slaps that IRC thing around the face
11:55 thexyz > Most referenced URLs
11:55 thexyz also >Most referenced nicks is wrong
11:55 Peacock http://licensingbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Email-Marketing-SPAM-Law.jpg
11:55 sfan5 the most used word is german
11:55 sfan5 WTF
11:55 nore !quit
11:56 thexyz yeah, you fucked it up somehow
11:56 nore MinetestBot:quit
11:56 sfan5 Peacock: spam with bacon
11:56 thexyz we probably need a dedicated bot to log this
11:56 sfan5 nore: that command is only for the owner
11:56 thexyz (irssi should work)
11:56 sfan5 ..
11:56 Peacock irssi ... thats terminal irc ?
11:56 nore yes, I saw, but tried nevertheless in case there was a bug...
11:56 PenguinDad MinetestBot:part()
11:56 sfan5 thexyz: I gave -f xchat to it
11:56 nore !c 1/0
11:56 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
11:56 nore !c 1/1
11:56 MinetestBot 1
11:57 nore !c 0**0
11:57 MinetestBot 1
11:57 Peacock !c 1/0
11:57 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
11:57 Peacock lol
11:57 thexyz Peacock: yeah
11:57 sfan5 The loudest one was *buffextras, who yelled 100.0% of the time!
11:57 sfan5 ^ lawl
11:57 sfan5 znc plugin
11:57 nore !c 100000!
11:57 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
11:57 thexyz sfan5: >*** (660)
11:57 thexyz not a good idea to use it with znc
11:57 nore !c 10**(10**10)
11:57 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
11:57 Peacock !c 1*pi
11:57 MinetestBot 3.14159265
11:57 Peacock nice
11:58 PenguinDad !c (42*-1)/(e^(i*Pi))
11:58 MinetestBot 42
11:58 Peacock terminal irc wouldn't be a bad idea when im running minetestserver
11:58 nore !c 1+1
11:58 MinetestBot 2
11:59 nore !c e^(i*Pi/2)
11:59 MinetestBot i
11:59 nore !c e^(e^(e^(e^(e^10))))
11:59 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
11:59 nore !c e^(e^(e^(e^(e^10)))))
11:59 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:00 PenguinDad !c (42*1)/(e^(i*Pi))
12:00 MinetestBot -42
12:00 thexyz plz
12:00 thexyz pm the fucking bot
12:01 PenguinDad Good MinetestBot!
12:01 nore thexyz: do you know why #856 isn't merged?
12:01 * Peacock births #minetest-humans
12:02 thexyz nore: nope
12:02 nore and what do you think of #688?
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12:03 thexyz ask PilzAdam maybe
12:04 thexyz minetest api wasn't designed properly
12:04 nore what do you mean?
12:05 thexyz sadly
12:05 thexyz well just look at it
12:05 thexyz half of functions are with_underscores half are withoutthem
12:05 thexyz then, some return references, some return copies
12:05 nore that we can't change
12:06 nore and we could change so that they all return copies
12:06 Peacock i think mt uses enough ram ty lol
12:06 thexyz that's why i started http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress
12:07 Peacock 1gig ram running the server right now, only other thing open is xchat
12:07 Peacock alot of old hardware only support so much ram to begin with
12:08 thexyz minetest doesn't use much ram
12:08 thexyz the bad thing is that it uses CPU
12:08 Calinou anything uses CPU :P
12:08 Peacock guess it depends which game your running (for ram)
12:09 thexyz excessively
12:09 thexyz Peacock: well, yeah, but still
12:09 thexyz 1gb of ram is nothing
12:09 Peacock not crazy about CB's conky config, i used to get cpu usage per app on ab's conky
12:09 Peacock though CPU bar says 72%
12:10 Calinou even a S775 mobo can have 8GB of RAM, Peacock
12:10 Calinou it's DDR2 so it is fairly expensive, but still
12:10 Peacock for whatever reason, my p4 can only take 2 lol
12:10 thexyz um yeah well
12:10 Peacock though ive changed every other part, the only original part left is the casing, mobo and processor
12:10 Peacock which ill eventually change lol
12:11 thexyz what was the point of changing every other?
12:11 Peacock psu : broke
12:11 Peacock hard drive: died
12:11 thexyz I doubt your mb supports ddr3 ram
12:11 Peacock graphics: shit
12:11 Peacock no it doesnt :(
12:11 thexyz so what was the point of changing ram?
12:11 Peacock i dont swap parts for fun dont worry :P they all broke/died/melted at one point or another
12:11 thexyz oh
12:11 Peacock uhm, cuz it came with half a gig
12:12 Peacock you cant even run most linuses on 500mb of ram anymore lol
12:12 Peacock p4 is seven years old ;P
12:13 Peacock the power button is completely hopeless lol
12:13 Peacock gonna try and rig an old doorbell or something to it XD
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12:21 Peacock 87 autobans lol took a day and a half to beat the 76 i had when i lost the map
12:22 Calinou what's your server
12:22 Peacock startest
12:23 Peacock 13 mods lol
12:23 Peacock and of those 87, i got maybe 4 serious builders
12:24 Peacock might be more efficient to code mobs that can build lol
12:26 sfan5 !op
12:26 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net
12:26 iqualfragile !seen jeija
12:26 MinetestBot iqualfragile: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
12:26 sfan5 !deop
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12:28 Peacock coulda sworn i saw jeija on the chat a few days ago
12:28 Peacock !seen Jeija
12:29 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
12:29 Peacock uppercase, not lower :p
12:29 iqualfragile what happened to him anyways?
12:29 iqualfragile he just disappeared a while ago
12:29 Peacock thats what were all trying to figure out lol
12:30 Peacock he's german right? did he disappear around the time of the flooding?
12:30 PenguinDad Peacock: he's german
12:31 Peacock maybe he was in the area of the flood then
12:31 Peacock unless he got in a fight with someone and no one's talking
12:32 Peacock last contrib June 19th
12:33 Peacock or he moved on to this? https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet
12:35 PenguinDad last post at july 3rd
12:35 Peacock forum post?
12:35 PenguinDad yes forum
12:35 PilzAdam "Another old yeller was sfan5, who shouted 14.7% of the time!" <- thats probably the crevis rage
12:36 thexyz Peacock: bp is dead
12:36 Peacock his bp or the real bp?
12:36 Peacock they both dont seem to have much momentum
12:37 thexyz both
12:37 Peacock doesnt matter, the wife won't let me touch her worlds anymore lol
12:39 Peacock i really do need a worldeditor to get something looking nice
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12:39 iqualfragile na, nah, he disappeared before the flooding
12:40 Peacock well if theres' no other reason why he might be gone, maybe he's just on IRL vacation
12:41 Peacock working holidays can go on for months
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12:44 iqualfragile nope
12:44 iqualfragile he is young
12:44 Peacock parental ban?
12:44 iqualfragile for monts?
12:44 iqualfragile and he is back from time to time
12:44 Peacock well it was the end of the school year, maybe they felt his grades were suffering because of MT? (hapened to jojoa)
12:44 iqualfragile at least there are some commits from time to time
12:45 Peacock well the last one seems to date back to June
12:45 iqualfragile yes, but he disappeared like 3 months ago
12:46 Peacock i can only guess, someone should ask him next time he pops on irc briefly
12:46 iqualfragile he did not pop up, he just commited something from time to time
12:46 Peacock well i coulda sworn someone was using some variant of his name on here within the last week :/
12:47 PilzAdam Peacock, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104131#p104131 <- you really ask a _core dev_ what version he uses?
12:47 Peacock i compiled yesterday's git
12:47 Peacock worlds not showing up
12:47 Peacock i have no idea when you compiled yours, but if its newer than mine, then ill give that a shot before complaining more about the problem, logical
12:49 Peacock unless youd rather people not report bugs and consequently not bother to test new features (which some devs are complaining about)
12:49 PenguinDad Peacock: compiled the same time and i reproduce it too
12:49 PilzAdam the last update of the menu was on Aug 4, the last update to the server tab was on Jul 22
12:49 PenguinDad *can't
12:50 Peacock so why does it only happen on mine? DRUN_IN_PLACE =1 ?
12:51 PilzAdam oh, wait, I see the problem
12:51 Peacock ok so im not (completely) insane :p
12:51 PilzAdam the world is filtered by the game selected in the singleplayer tab
12:51 PilzAdam *worldlist
12:51 PilzAdam if you click on it once then it should show all worlds again
12:52 Peacock well i only have 1 world
12:52 Peacock so thats the one thats always highlighted
12:52 PenguinDad PilzAdam: not for me
12:57 PilzAdam Peacock, try this: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/6164236
12:58 Peacock hmm, is it pulled or do i need to do some funky githubbery to compile it?
12:58 PilzAdam you just apply that patch
12:58 PilzAdam no need to compile since its Lua
12:59 Peacock oh lua ok
12:59 Peacock (not enough coffee) lol
13:00 PilzAdam do you know how to apply a patch?
13:00 Peacock nope.avi, loaded mainmenu in gedit
13:01 Peacock looking for the lines lol
13:01 Peacock found it
13:01 PenguinDad Peacock: git has a function for that but i don't know this function
13:02 PilzAdam PenguinDad, you put that diff into a file (e.g. patch1.diff) and then  git apply patch1.diff
13:02 Peacock it worked, world appears on serverlist :-)
13:03 Peacock *moderator: plz close https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6822
13:03 PenguinDad PilzAdam: i only forgot the name
13:04 Jordach Peacock, closed
13:04 Peacock ty
13:04 Jordach should i [Solved] it?
13:06 PilzAdam why do people close their topics if they are solved?
13:06 Peacock if the fix is pushed yeah :-)
13:06 PilzAdam there is no reason to do that
13:06 PilzAdam you block others from posting further questions on that topic
13:06 Peacock well maybe not since the thread itself doesn't contain the solution
13:06 Peacock but if its fixed who else would have anything to say on it?
13:07 sfan5 !re 20:43:01 *kitten has kicked dog from #minetest (meow)`(\d+):(\d+):\d+ \*\s+(\S+) (\S+)*
13:07 MinetestBot false
13:07 PilzAdam Peacock, you never know that
13:07 Peacock youd basically end up telling people to update anyways
13:07 Peacock hm,well keep it open if you want then
13:08 PilzAdam I mean you can close it later on if it turns out that people post stupid things
13:08 * Jordach reopens
13:08 PilzAdam but for now it should stay open
13:08 * Jordach sighs
13:08 PilzAdam ^ Jordach
13:08 thexyz PilzAdam: create new topic if you have additional questions
13:08 Peacock thats what i figured would end up happening lol
13:08 Jordach PilzAdam, just did
13:08 thexyz that's how SO works
13:08 Peacock (people complaining without checking if theres a fix)
13:08 PilzAdam thexyz, then it gets closed for double-opening a topic
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13:09 Peacock perhaps we could use our own stackexchange
13:09 PilzAdam many topics on the same topic are not good
13:09 thexyz PilzAdam: yeah, if the question is exactly the same
13:09 thexyz Peacock: we aren't that popular =(
13:10 thexyz so there's no reason
13:10 thexyz also, their karma system a shit
13:10 Peacock true, still i like the concept of the question-er voting/selecting the best answer
13:10 Peacock it seems to encourage people being more helpful in answering
13:11 Peacock i always check stackexchange before say, lua manuals/pdfs/etc
13:11 thexyz yeah, it's good when there are people who answer and there are people who ask [good questions]
13:12 thexyz I do too, stackoverflow usually comes first in google results
13:12 Peacock first hits at my end too
13:13 Peacock going to the lua site you get a generalized page on the entire library lol
13:13 Peacock which tells you what functions are available but not exactly how to solve your particular problem/challenge
13:13 sfan5 !re 13:50:49 *arsdragonfly (~arsdragon@222.69.173.188) has joined #minetest`(\d+):(\d+):\d+ \*\s+(\S+)(\s\S+)*
13:13 MinetestBot false
13:13 thexyz wut
13:14 PilzAdam sfan5, /msg
13:14 thexyz sfan5: can you PM the fucking bot?
13:14 thexyz please
13:14 thexyz do that
13:14 sfan5 PilzAdam: was about to do that
13:14 thexyz that's what you always say
13:15 Peacock for the glasslike drawtype/inventory cube rendering, i should use inventory_image in the meantime?
13:15 PilzAdam Peacock, yep, see default:glass
13:18 Peacock that fixed it for nodes, oddly enough it renders properly on nodeboxes (glass slabs)
13:27 thexyz as for stackexchange alternative, we can setup askbot
13:28 Jordach Peacock, make a single nodebox that is a cube
13:28 Jordach problem solved
13:30 PenguinDad Jordach: but then you don't have smooth lighting
13:30 Jordach smooth lighting makes the game less voxel
13:30 * Jordach prefers non smooth cubic lighting
13:31 Jordach PilzAdam, i have a new suggestion for the modding API; make light_source = 99 the maximum light
13:31 Jordach because torches are NEVER enough
13:31 Calinou impossible
13:31 Calinou there are only 16 light levels
13:31 PilzAdam Jordach, feel free to rewrite the complete lightsystem in Minetest
13:31 PilzAdam I wont
13:31 Jordach Calinou, 99/16
13:32 Jordach that's how lighting levels could be divided
13:34 Jordach common sense states that if it works: try and get it to work FOR YOU, only re-write something IF IT NEEDS doing.
13:35 Calinou --nouveau developers on reclocking
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13:37 urban Jordach you could make a plugin that add multiple light sources when you place a block
13:37 Jordach urban, we dont have plugins
13:37 Jordach we aren't bukkit
13:37 Jordach nor are we minecraft
13:37 urban sorry, mods
13:37 Calinou they are called mods
13:37 Jordach Calinou, ninja'd
13:38 Calinou but you can do the same thing as plugins (just add new commands and stuff like that)
13:38 thexyz wow so much hate just because urban called mods plugins
13:38 Calinou hate? not from me
13:38 Jordach thexyz, unwitting users might ask for the wrong thing
13:39 Jordach (most windows users dont even read installers; including the crapware they also install.)
13:40 thexyz you could've just said "[useful content], also those things are named mods, not plugins"
13:41 thexyz instaned you went with "[useless content]\n[useless content]\n[useless content]"
13:41 Jordach thexyz, i'm a long winded person
13:41 Jordach i give Benefit of the Doubt
13:42 Jordach if they get something wrong, i'll poke them, then poke again, then spit it
13:43 Jordach just don't spoonfeed the bovine users (eg, in some cases - artur99)
13:44 sfan5 can we use ilbot logs with pisg?
13:45 Jordach dunno, google it?
13:46 Jordach or just read the man pages
13:46 Peacock i solved the torch lighting problem a long time ago with invisible light blocks
13:46 urban That's what I suggested :p
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13:47 Jordach holy shit; i swear the most in here compared to anyone else and yet the thing sfan5 is doing hasnt picked my swearing up
13:47 Jordach not even once.
13:47 Peacock i too, didn't find having 20 torches to light a room terribly attractive lol
13:47 Jordach plol
13:49 Peacock though im surprised with so many mods doing the same things, there are very few effective lighting mods
13:49 Jordach sfan5, tell that data finding piece of crap to find my swears
13:49 Jordach Peacock, //p set //set (lighting node here)
13:49 Peacock im not talking about filling an area with light with no apparent source
13:50 Jordach go on
13:50 Peacock you make your light fixtures add the nodes
13:50 Peacock either filling a radius, or cubic area, or directional
13:51 thexyz sfan5: no, apparently
13:51 Jordach !xkcd competing standards
13:51 Jordach !g xkcd competing standards
13:51 MinetestBot Jordach: http://xkcd.com/927/
13:51 Jordach better
13:51 Peacock saw that one :P twice on here too
13:52 Peacock its a linux forums favorite :p
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14:07 Jordach huh - we got smooth jazz
14:07 * MinetestBot puts a kitten on the channel radio
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14:31 BlockMen hi everyone
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14:40 Jordach hey BlockMen you hand is awesome
14:40 Jordach your*
14:41 BlockMen Jordach, thanks. it looks nearly as in mc now^^
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15:04 Jordach <jenni> Don't worry, that value is only wrong half of the time.
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15:09 Jordach PilzAdam,
15:09 Jordach <jenni> It's not a code problem - our users need more training.
15:09 PenguinDad ^_^
15:10 Peacock where you pasting from?
15:10 Jordach #defocus-uncensored
15:10 Jordach jenni has a .excuse command
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15:14 bas080 Ich  bin learning the German, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2008062013%20-%2005%3A12%3A56%20PM.png.
15:14 Peacock you'll find bin under /usr/share
15:14 PilzAdam bas080, nice
15:15 bas080 I haven't learned the word "learning" yet. I guess it's something like "leren"
15:15 Peacock bas when youre done could you come on my server and translate the rules? :-)
15:15 PenguinDad bas080: lernen
15:15 bas080 ok, Peacock, nein nein nein!
15:15 bas080 :P
15:16 Peacock lol
15:16 Jordach bas080, looks like youre doing it 999 times then
15:16 Peacock google translate made some pretty shitty translations lol
15:16 Peacock you can translate words but not intent
15:16 Peacock *it
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15:19 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Rename LagPool's member variables to avoid MSVC freaking up due to it's #define max 53bf62bb83 2013-08-06T08:17:58-07:00 http://git.io/uzfPOw
15:19 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Clean up server's log messages and give a better error to client when its player is in use 61f240946a 2013-08-06T08:13:11-07:00 http://git.io/3BKObA
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15:23 PenguinDad *hello
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15:24 Nifticus hi
15:24 sokomine hi
15:25 Nifticus Yay someone talks to meee
15:25 Jordach Nifticus, IRC is truly real time, but you wont always recieve a automatic responce, we aren't robots!
15:26 MinetestBot I am
15:26 Jordach haha MinetestBot
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15:27 Nifticus JJordach <3
15:27 Nifticus Anyone know how to compile minetest-master for Windows?
15:27 Nifticus Most tutorials don't work for me D;
15:28 Peacock 1) install linux 2) compile mintest 3) PROFIT
15:28 Peacock j/k :P
15:28 Nifticus xD
15:28 Nifticus The GNU license says you can't profit off of Minetest. ^^
15:28 Peacock well you could technically come up with a box design and sell hard copies
15:29 Peacock you wouldn't be selling the source
15:29 PilzAdam Nifticus, you can sell it
15:29 Nifticus Pilz. :o
15:29 PilzAdam but you always have to provide the sourcecode and allow re-sharing
15:29 Nifticus Ah.
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15:29 Peacock ive thought about it lol i often have guests who ask just what the hell im building/playing lol
15:29 Nifticus True, dat. ^^
15:30 Nifticus Pilz.
15:30 Nifticus My friend is building a game off of the Minetest source.
15:30 Nifticus Does Celeron have the power to shut it down?
15:30 Calinou no
15:30 Peacock not really
15:30 Nifticus Well, then...
15:30 Calinou minetest is FOSS
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15:30 Nifticus Mmm.
15:30 Peacock and even if one could, you'd still have to hire a lawyer ($$$)
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15:30 Nifticus True.
15:30 Calinou if you don't edit source, it is suggested you release the game
15:31 Calinou and not the engine with
15:31 NekoGloop instead of claiming the whole thing?
15:31 Nifticus 4.8 is available on the minetest-master.
15:31 Nifticus Compile it and you get a pre-release.
15:31 Nifticus ^^
15:31 Peacock ideally if your going to sell a game youll want to provide a complete experience (with documentation and an installer)
15:32 NekoGloop What time machine are you using?
15:32 Nifticus They added texture-pack selection.
15:32 Nifticus Saw it in the code.
15:32 Nifticus ^^
15:32 Nifticus None.
15:32 Nifticus ^^
15:32 Nifticus Go to Github and download the minetest-master.
15:33 Nifticus If you compile it you get a buggy version of 4.8.
15:33 Peacock theres also minetest-slave, and minetest-dominatrix to check out :p
15:33 Nifticus I can read you the code.
15:33 NekoGloop 4.8 doesn't exist
15:33 Nifticus if tabbuilder.current_tab == "texture_packs" then
15:33 PenguinDad WTF you're using 4.8?
15:33 Nifticus If you compile 4.8's source, you get 4.8.
15:34 Nifticus <3
15:34 Peacock omg, instead of having this argument a thousand times, just drop the leading zero and call it a beta
15:34 Nifticus 4.8 beta then. <3
15:34 NekoGloop 4.8 DOESN'T EXIST
15:34 Peacock wasnt referring to you :p
15:34 Nifticus It does.
15:34 NekoGloop IT IS 0.4.8 AND YOU WILL CALL IT THAT
15:34 Nifticus Woah.
15:34 Peacock yeah theyre pretty anal about it
15:34 Jordach Nifticus, reminder; i know of crevis
15:35 NekoGloop I'm anal about assholes who don't listen
15:35 Nifticus Aye Jordach.
15:35 Nifticus Is it allowed?
15:35 PenguinDad nope
15:35 Nifticus Neko, you need to calm down.
15:35 Nifticus Please.
15:35 Peacock and thats how you (anyone) drive normal (everyone else) people away :p
15:35 Jordach this is like asking a new guy in law how to solve the ultimate licensing issue
15:35 Nifticus xD
15:35 Jordach !op
15:35 Jordach NekoGloop, careful now
15:36 Jordach and i nearly choked on a fucking polo mint
15:36 Nifticus <3
15:36 NekoGloop Sure, protect the asshole.
15:36 Peacock every. single. time. someone forgets the leading zero, some of you ppl go nuts
15:37 Peacock theres a technique for the manual release of such frustrations :p
15:37 Jordach Nifticus, tell your guys an easier way to do your game it to create a game mode: (which is a game folder packed full of mods)
15:37 Jordach is*
15:37 Nifticus I know.
15:37 Nifticus Preston.
15:37 Nifticus Is being a bitch.
15:37 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix worldlist in servertab being filtered by selected game ba65e2ae6c 2013-08-06T08:28:51-07:00 http://git.io/RuS0QA
15:37 Nifticus I didn't do it.
15:37 PilzAdam ^ Peacock
15:37 Nifticus He just downloads mods and puts them in.
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15:38 Nifticus I'm telling him to stop...
15:38 Nifticus He just won't listen.
15:38 Peacock sweet thanks PilzAdam
15:38 Nifticus >.>
15:38 Jordach i can give you one bit of credit: at least you know how to install mods
15:39 Nifticus I know how to do it originally; they just install mods.
15:39 Nifticus Honestly.
15:39 Nifticus And here's the best part: he demands pay.
15:39 Jordach dumbasses will be dumbasses
15:40 Peacock who demands pay?
15:40 Nifticus Mmhmm.
15:40 Nifticus Preston.
15:40 Jordach simple fact of the universe
15:40 Peacock who's preston? lol
15:40 Nifticus "Modder" for crevis.
15:40 Peacock ah well, if he makes money more power to him
15:40 PilzAdam !deop Jordach
15:40 Nifticus xD
15:40 PilzAdam NekoGloop, feel free to rage
15:41 Nifticus I love when NekoGloop rages. ^^
15:41 NekoGloop Oh look, Pilz is being halfway intelligent now
15:41 Peacock windows
15:41 PilzAdam Nifticus, I really suggest you (or your friend or whatever) to release crevis as a game for the minetest engine
15:41 * Peacock runs away
15:41 PilzAdam since that is exactly what it is
15:41 Nifticus I know.
15:41 Nifticus But I have someone to compile now.
15:41 Nifticus So I can modify the core source
15:42 Jordach Nifticus, it's not like PilzAdam, BlockMen, sfan5 or Fess can compile for you
15:42 Nifticus I know.
15:42 * Jordach knows sfan5 does custom builds
15:42 Nifticus I'm having someone else. ^^
15:42 Nifticus Except I have a fucking Windows computer.
15:42 Nifticus xD
15:42 Jordach ...aaaaaannndd it still fucking hurts
15:42 Peacock are you compiling for windows or linuses?
15:42 Nifticus Holly shit he's gone mad.
15:43 Nifticus Windows
15:43 Nifticus I failed every time. xD
15:43 PenguinDad Peacock: why are saying my name?
15:43 Peacock where did i do that?
15:43 sfan5 soooo I'm not there for a min and all people argue
15:43 PenguinDad linuses
15:43 Nifticus We aren't arguing we're loving <3
15:44 sfan5 no you are not!
15:44 Nifticus hehe
15:44 PilzAdam Nifticus, oh, btw, you are allowed to sell Minetest (which is ridiculous since you can get it for free, but you cant at least get sued for that), but you are not allowed to sell the Misa Texture pack
15:44 PilzAdam you can be sued for that
15:44 Nifticus I'm not going to sell it Pilz.
15:44 sfan5 "get the pre-release!Pay $5 to Crevis to pre-order the latest version of Crevis. You will recieve an email from us with a download."
15:44 sfan5 yeah sure
15:44 Jordach Nifticus wants to be open
15:44 Peacock sueing requires paying a lawyer and being damn sure the person at the other end has seizable income/assets
15:44 Jordach the others down
15:44 Jordach dont*
15:44 Nifticus That wasn't me Sfan.
15:45 Nifticus Preston, again...
15:45 sfan5 then tell him..
15:45 Peacock most of the people here have nothing to seize
15:45 Nifticus He never listens.
15:45 Nifticus Ever.
15:45 Nifticus Here's the best part: he wants pay. For MODDING.
15:46 Peacock well i think marktraceur once offered to do mods for cash
15:46 sfan5 hm
15:46 Peacock so its not unheard of
15:46 Peacock hell pay me and ill write all the opensauce mods you want lol
15:46 Nifticus xD
15:46 Peacock otherwise i earn more making shitty websites
15:46 sfan5 s/shitty/kitten/
15:46 Nifticus I can't fire him because he has some of my passwords...
15:46 NekoGloop meow
15:47 Nifticus I plan to change them then fire him if he doesn't act up.
15:47 Peacock you cant change them?
15:47 sfan5 Nifticus: change the passwords
15:47 Nifticus I will.
15:47 Nifticus I'm surprised no one hacked into my account; my password is so basic xD
15:47 Nifticus I have to change them anyway.
15:48 Nifticus If I fire him I lose half the developing team.
15:48 Nifticus Hold on; deleting the pay 5$ crap.
15:48 Nifticus Deleted.
15:48 Nifticus :D
15:48 sfan5 you can't sell the misa texture pack anyway
15:48 Nifticus I know.
15:49 Nifticus I love MobF
15:49 Nifticus :D
15:49 Nifticus Let me get you guys some quotes from Skye.
15:49 PenguinDad I hate MobF
15:49 Nifticus *Skype
15:49 sfan5 Nifticus: pastebin
15:49 sfan5 please
15:50 Nifticus s
15:50 Nifticus Oops.
15:50 Nifticus Quote from Preston: "Nobody codes anymore"
15:50 Nifticus "Dude, you are so in the past"
15:50 sfan5 pastebin!
15:50 Nifticus Pastebin?
15:50 Jordach http://pastebin.com
15:50 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for different drowning damage and allow drowning in other nodetypes 7b13d119ed 2013-08-06T08:49:39-07:00 http://git.io/Xgrz7w
15:50 sfan5 ^
15:50 Calinou skype is evil
15:51 sfan5 Calinou: you mean microshit is evil?
15:51 Calinou both
15:51 Peacock speaking of microhit, heard of those high-tech luxury japanese toilets that can be hacked? apparently its real easy to clog it up with a kernel dump
15:52 Nifticus xD
15:53 Nifticus *microshit <3
15:53 Nifticus lol
15:53 Peacock and the arab version, microshiite
15:53 sfan5 Peacock: /r/netsec seems it first
15:53 Nifticus :D
15:53 sfan5 *sees
15:55 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update drowning fa9424c31b 2013-08-01T23:12:20-07:00 http://git.io/BimEpQ
15:55 sfan5 many commits today
15:56 Peacock goooooood </darth_sidious>
15:56 Nifticus Preston won't even pick up the damn Skype call.
15:56 Nifticus He's online too :I
15:57 sfan5 the name "Preston" reminds me of something...
15:57 Nifticus prestotron?
15:57 sfan5 no
15:57 Nifticus :p
15:57 sfan5 well, yes that too
15:57 Nifticus Peacock's cock?
15:57 Nifticus <3
15:57 Jordach don't land in the GOO! http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/296/chell.medium.png
15:58 PilzAdam Nifticus, keep this channel familiy safe
15:58 Nifticus xD
15:58 sfan5 !op
15:58 Jordach PilzAdam, hasnt stopped me
15:58 Peacock especially with jordach's mention of goo lol
15:58 MinetestBot GIT: HybridDog commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix typo in flower generation 9df85d7752 2013-08-06T08:56:51-07:00 http://git.io/DUJoBg
15:58 * sfan5 goes in op position
15:58 PilzAdam sfan5, wut?
15:58 sfan5 wait..
15:58 Peacock lol
15:59 Peacock well, that escalated/degenerated quickly lol
15:59 sfan5 !deop
15:59 Jordach !voice no-one
15:59 Jordach </troll>
15:59 PenguinDad That he uses Preston so often remembers me to FreedroidRPG
15:59 Nifticus I saw Jordach's render of MinetestBot :D
15:59 Peacock the only preston i know is Preston Manning of the Refooooooorm party lol
16:00 MinetestBot Nifticus: It wasn't me
16:00 Nifticus :o
16:00 Nifticus Well, Electroware RI is making xbox.
16:00 sfan5 you are making xbox?
16:01 Jordach PilzAdam, stop controlling MinetestBot
16:01 PenguinDad kill them they are from microsoft :D
16:02 Nifticus Yes @Sfan5
16:02 sfan5 Nifticus: what are you making on xbox?
16:02 Nifticus Minetest/crevis
16:02 sfan5 how far have you got yet?
16:03 PenguinDad o_O
16:03 Nifticus I'm not. Electroware RI is.
16:03 Nifticus They're making controls atm.
16:03 Nifticus I'm working on PC version.
16:03 Nifticus And all you devs for Minetest out there:
16:03 Nifticus I will never, ever use an unmodified mod for Crevis.
16:03 sfan5 are you u
16:03 sfan5 *sure?
16:03 Nifticus Yes.
16:04 Nifticus Preston downloaded all the mods.
16:04 Nifticus TBO
16:04 Nifticus *TBH
16:04 PenguinDad Nifticus: you really remember me to the COBAL programmer from FreedroidRPG
16:05 Nifticus No...
16:05 sfan5 Nifticus: and why is mesecons named b"luestone"
16:05 Nifticus Sfan5: Preston
16:05 sfan5 the textures are still yellow
16:05 Nifticus At first he tricked me into thinking HE made it.
16:05 Nifticus I know...
16:05 Nifticus I'm deleting them.
16:05 Nifticus Preston is such a bitch D;
16:06 Jordach the only person from crevis im giving reprieve from my jokes is Nifticus
16:06 Nifticus :o
16:06 Nifticus Guys, I'm not like Preston.
16:06 Nifticus I didn't really want to switch to Minetest anyway; I used to use something else but...
16:06 Nifticus The 2.0 update was coming
16:06 Jordach that Idiot*
16:07 Nifticus We needed to add crafting, inventory...
16:07 Nifticus So we switched to Minetest temporarily
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16:07 sfan5 temporarily?
16:07 Nifticus Yes.
16:07 Calinou you are free to use minetest
16:07 Nifticus Preston convinved me to use it
16:07 Calinou it is pointless to create your own engine
16:07 Nifticus permanently
16:07 Nifticus I knw Calinou.
16:07 Nifticus :)
16:08 Nifticus I had created my own in another lnaguage.
16:08 Nifticus *language
16:08 Jordach i imagine Preston to be this HUGE fat GUY
16:08 Nifticus Actually he's a skinny 13 year old that looks like a monkey. :o
16:08 Nifticus xD
16:08 Jordach we were right about the 12 year olds
16:08 sfan5 s/we/you/
16:08 Nifticus Me=14
16:08 * sdzen high fives jordach
16:09 Nifticus But you devs out there...
16:09 PilzAdam Nifticus, what language?
16:09 Nifticus It's embarrasing Pilz.
16:09 Nifticus :o
16:09 sdzen basic?
16:09 Calinou lol "Pilz"
16:09 sdzen :P
16:09 Calinou java?
16:09 hdastwb Python?
16:09 Nifticus No.
16:10 Nifticus I would never use Java.
16:10 sdzen fortran
16:10 Jordach http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-08-05#i_3240455
16:10 Nifticus GML.
16:10 Nifticus :o
16:10 Jordach Nifticus, load that link (that was last night)
16:10 sfan5 lawl GML
16:10 sfan5 Jordach: oh...
16:10 * sdzen passes out laughing
16:10 Jordach see; that's why i said we
16:10 * sfan5 hides
16:10 sdzen isnt GML made for 2 dimensions?
16:10 Jordach sdzen, i can do 3d as well
16:11 Nifticus So funny...
16:11 Nifticus Their nicknames.
16:11 Nifticus Are so fucking stupid.
16:11 Nifticus xD
16:11 Jordach i still win on speed; http://www.speedtest.net/result/2568476190.png
16:11 Calinou whose nicknames?
16:11 Nifticus CaptionZombies12
16:11 Calinou seems legit Jordach
16:11 Nifticus xD
16:11 sfan5 Calinou: see link
16:11 Jordach Nifticus, least yours is original
16:11 Nifticus <3
16:11 Nifticus I hate names with numbers.
16:11 Nifticus I just hate them.
16:11 Nifticus Why do people do that?
16:11 * Jordach shares that bug
16:11 Nifticus I don't fucking know...
16:12 Nifticus They just randomly type numbers into their account?
16:12 PenguinDad Nifticus: Leetspeak?
16:12 Guest0293 this is what pisses me off :)
16:12 Peacock i ban most names with numbers lol
16:13 Nifticus And guys
16:13 Peacock there arent enough minetest players to warrant adding numbers to a name lol
16:13 Nifticus I never wanted Crevis to be a minetest ripoff...
16:13 Nifticus Preston made it that.
16:13 Nifticus I'm sincere
16:13 Jordach if there's a control freak; terminate or cut it off (from some form of power)
16:13 sfan5 its not a minetest ripoff
16:13 sfan5 but...
16:14 Nifticus Sfan.
16:14 Nifticus I understand what you are saying.
16:14 sfan5 it just looks like you did 1% work and called it a new game
16:14 Nifticus I sincerely didn't mean it to be that
16:14 Nifticus I know...
16:14 Nifticus Because of PRESTON.
16:14 Nifticus He told me the release was fine
16:14 sfan5 also... "Crevis uses the Minetest engine for a basic structure of the game. "
16:14 PilzAdam Nifticus, I dont know what you wanted it to be, or who that "preston" guy is; I just see what it currently is
16:14 Nifticus Again, Preston...
16:15 sfan5 ^ I didn't know a basic structure was the complete engine
16:15 Nifticus I'm sorry guys... but I promise you one thing.
16:15 Calinou "ripoff" doesn't mean anything, anyway
16:15 Nifticus I will do my best to revoke Preston's actions.
16:15 Calinou Nifticus: if you don't edit the engine, it is _suggested_ you distribute it as a game.
16:15 PilzAdam Nifticus, stop talking and change things
16:15 Nifticus I am <3
16:16 Nifticus Change the engine?
16:16 Nifticus The thing coded in c++
16:16 Nifticus ?
16:16 Calinou yes
16:16 sfan5 yes
16:16 Jordach give Nifticus Benefit of the Doubt
16:16 sdzen </3 not untill we see definitive proof of such changes
16:16 Nifticus But it's already being compiled?
16:17 Nifticus Alright.
16:17 Nifticus I'll change it.
16:17 Nifticus And I hope you all realize that I'm not like preston.
16:17 Peacock im beginning to wonder if you are him lol
16:18 Peacock after mentioning his name 146 times :p
16:18 PenguinDad Peacock: Nifticus: you really remember me to the COBAL programmer from FreedroidRPG
16:18 Peacock unfamiliar with cobal or freedroidrpg
16:18 sdzen the grammar, it burns!
16:19 leo_rockway freedroidrpg is nat
16:19 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix full crack texture being shown when releasing dig button 7fbc8152bf 2013-08-06T09:15:40-07:00 http://git.io/2y1Mxg
16:19 leo_rockway or even neat
16:19 leo_rockway hello, everyone
16:19 * Jordach fucks off to play Halo 4 CTF
16:20 Nifticus Hold on.
16:20 Nifticus I removed the 5$ thing.
16:20 Nifticus Which means we aren't illegal now?
16:20 Nifticus :D
16:20 * Jordach probably would go with almost
16:20 Calinou you could sell it for $5 if you didn't use misa pack
16:20 Nifticus Wait...
16:20 Nifticus Misa pack?
16:21 sfan5 the texurepack
16:21 sdzen dude your website lists like 80 artists
16:21 sfan5 also you need to check the licenses of the mods
16:21 sdzen but those textures scream rip
16:21 Nifticus What... the... fuck...
16:21 Nifticus So he didn't do ANYTHING.
16:21 Nifticus Omfg.
16:21 Nifticus I am so mad right now :o
16:22 Peacock crack open his skull and feast on the warm goo inside?
16:22 Peacock or just regular mad?
16:22 Nifticus I would do that, thanks for he suggestion.
16:22 sdzen mmmm goo!
16:22 Nifticus Time to change the engine.
16:24 Nifticus I can't believe he did this...
16:24 Peacock i cant believe it's not butter
16:24 Nifticus I love that :D
16:24 Nifticus I use it on my morning bagels & waffles
16:25 Peacock its great with my morning cigarette and coffee too XD
16:25 Nifticus xD
16:25 * sdzen tugs on Peacocks feathers, "but, isn't smoking bad?"
16:26 Nifticus Hmm, what the change...
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16:26 * Calinou upvotes sdzen
16:26 Peacock "dieing of lung cancer can seriously damage your health" ive read the warnings :p
16:26 PenguinDad !g Electroware
16:27 MinetestBot PenguinDad: https://myspace.com/electrowaredsp
16:27 Nifticus Changing the core engine.
16:27 PenguinDad xD
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16:29 sdzen aaaah! myspace!
16:30 sdzen thats not the kind of web presence you want at all for an upcoming company
16:30 Nifticus Guys
16:31 kahrl wait, myspace still exists?
16:31 Nifticus Can I release a partially modified core engine temporarily, then I will release the fully modified after?
16:31 Peacock Electroware - wearable electrocution devices for prisons XD
16:31 sfan5 Nifticus: yes
16:31 Nifticus Peacock xD
16:31 Nifticus Okay Sfan.
16:31 BlockMen kahrl -> http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/soziales-netzwerk-fuer-musiker-myspace-startet-noch-einmal-neu-1.1574098
16:32 Nifticus And.
16:32 Nifticus One more thing.
16:32 PenguinDad Nifticus: but you have to provide the source code
16:32 Nifticus If I sell it Penguin.
16:32 Nifticus I don't sell it.
16:32 PilzAdam Nifticus, no, you always have to provide the sourcecode
16:32 jin_xi if you distribute i believe
16:32 Nifticus Always...?
16:33 PenguinDad Nifticus: yes!
16:33 Nifticus Well, that's easy.
16:33 Calinou PilzAdam: he claims the engine is unmodified
16:33 PilzAdam Calinou, then he can point to our repo
16:34 Nifticus I will link it to the Minetest engine.
16:34 Nifticus That fine?
16:34 Calinou link it?
16:34 Calinou ideally, yes, distribute it as a game for the Minetest engine
16:34 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Simplify code of mainmenu world sort 779165144e 2013-08-06T09:33:23-07:00 http://git.io/aSqlqQ
16:34 PilzAdam Nifticus, if you dont modify the engine why do you even distribute it? just release crevis as a game for the minetest engine
16:35 PilzAdam i.e. only the lua files, textures, sounds and models
16:35 Nifticus I plan to modify the engine.
16:35 Nifticus I already hav
16:35 Nifticus But Preston keeps releasing it every single day
16:35 Nifticus -.-
16:35 Calinou use a git repo
16:36 Nifticus He downloads a new mod, says he added something, then releases it.
16:36 sfan5 !title
16:36 MinetestBot sfan5: Soziales Netzwerk - Myspace startet noch einmal neu - Digital - S&uuml;ddeutsche.de
16:36 sdzen cut off preston and disallow him from releasing
16:36 sdzen your the founder yes?
16:36 Nifticus Yes.
16:37 sdzen take the reigns and beat him into a corner crying
16:37 Nifticus I used to use this 3D engine
16:37 Nifticus I made my own Minecraft engine off of that
16:37 Nifticus Crafting and shit was too hard
16:37 Nifticus So I switched to Minetest.
16:37 Nifticus temporarily as I thought.
16:37 Nifticus I will Sdzen.
16:37 Nifticus <3
16:38 Calinou there is no need to create your own engine anyway ;)
16:38 Calinou we have enough already
16:38 sdzen yep :P
16:38 Nifticus Mmm.
16:39 * sdzen was just electrocuted by a headphone, do not trust anything he says
16:39 Nifticus Crevis is supposed to be a game built off the Minetest engine, but from what I'm seeing, it is the minetest engine.
16:39 Nifticus +100000 mods.
16:39 Nifticus "Nobody codes anymore" -Preston
16:40 Nifticus The fatasses who rip off coders do
16:40 Nifticus *don't
16:40 Calinou sdzen: electrocuted = death by electricity
16:40 Calinou does your ghost have the ability to talk on IRC?
16:40 sdzen can't kill what was already dead
16:40 Nifticus ^^
16:41 sdzen lets just say my buddy frank set me up
16:41 Nifticus I'm new to C++ :o
16:41 Nifticus I will admit that.
16:41 PilzAdam Nifticus, ehm... a game for the Minetest engine consists only of mods
16:42 Nifticus True, dat.
16:42 Nifticus Except Preston didn't make or modify any of them
16:42 PilzAdam so just go to the games/ folder, grab "minetest_game", rename it to "crevis" and release it
16:42 PilzAdam done.
16:43 Nifticus I'm going to go delete some mods from it atm.
16:43 Nifticus Or change them.
16:43 Nifticus either one.
16:43 svuorela it would btw be nice if one didn't need to get 100 external mods to make minetest realyl interesting.
16:43 PilzAdam you dont need to change mods, repacking them in a game is perfectly fine
16:44 PilzAdam oh, and put the textures from textures/all/ in the according mods
16:44 Nifticus Pilz.
16:44 Nifticus Or if you prefer adam
16:44 PilzAdam I prefer PilzAdam
16:45 Nifticus Okay.
16:45 Nifticus PilzAdam, I prefer to change them as much as possible.
16:46 Nifticus Prefer.
16:46 PenguinDad Nifticus: be aware of the licenses
16:46 Nifticus True, dat. ^^
16:47 Nifticus Deleted carts.
16:47 Calinou most mods on the Mod Releases section allow commercial usage, and all of them should allow derivatives
16:47 Calinou why delete mods randomly?
16:47 Nifticus Only having the neccassary.
16:47 Nifticus I will recode them originally.
16:47 Calinou what's the point in reinventing the wheel?
16:48 Nifticus Originality.
16:48 Nifticus I will not install mods into Minetest and call it a new game
16:48 Nifticus That's just wrong.
16:49 Calinou it isn't
16:49 Calinou and that isn't how you make money anyway :P
16:50 Nifticus It is
16:50 sdzen there is one thing thats true about everything
16:50 sdzen nothing is original
16:50 Nifticus It is wrong
16:50 Nifticus But if it's in my power to make it original
16:50 Nifticus then I will.
16:50 Calinou well, waste your time then
16:50 Nifticus ^^
16:51 PilzAdam Calinou, he is 14
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16:51 PilzAdam 14 year  olds waste their time
16:51 sfan5 Jordach: I'm working on a script that translates the (german) log files how pisg wants them and we can have a full report
16:51 Nifticus Actually, just making it original.
16:52 Calinou original, in what way?
16:52 Calinou you could make the carts go faster or have a different look easily...
16:52 Nifticus Well, not original.
16:52 Nifticus I'm modifying them.
16:53 Calinou that makes it original to the end user
16:53 PenguinDad there is nothing in this world that is really original
16:53 Nifticus True...
16:53 Nifticus Then what I really have to modify is the core engine if I want to release it as a different game.
16:54 Calinou make sure you really need, and that you can't get your modification to upstream first
16:54 Calinou need it*
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16:58 Jordach sfan5, WOOTR
16:58 Jordach -R
16:58 sfan5 almost done
16:59 sfan5 *ding*
16:59 sfan5 done
17:03 Nifticus Maybe I should switch to another engine
17:05 Calinou why?
17:07 Nifticus ..
17:07 Nifticus Idk.
17:07 Nifticus Minetest... I like the engine...
17:07 Nifticus But I don't think the devs like me using it
17:08 PilzAdam wut?
17:08 Nifticus I just don't think you like me using it
17:08 Nifticus I guess I'm going to have to find a new engine...
17:09 Nifticus Anyone heard of Unity3D?
17:09 Nifticus Might use that
17:09 PilzAdam you are ridiculous
17:10 PenguinDad Unity3D != Open Source
17:10 Nifticus Unity3D is a program.
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17:11 Calinou unity sucks
17:11 Calinou Nifticus: we are fine with that
17:11 Nifticus Then what to use?
17:11 Nifticus Too much hate though
17:11 Calinou this is open source, you are allowed to use it just fine.
17:11 Calinou PilzAdam is sometimes arrogrant, feel free to ignore him
17:12 Nifticus I used to admire PilzAdam's work on mods and stuff, I got the impression he was a nice guy. xD
17:12 PilzAdam Nifticus, the hate is because of what you have done; do something useful to gain respect
17:13 Nifticus What I have done?
17:13 PilzAdam crevis
17:13 Nifticus What the hell have II done.
17:13 Nifticus What about it?
17:13 Calinou well, he doesn't like it because you released it as a separate game
17:13 PilzAdam redistributing Minetest under a different name is not good
17:14 Nifticus Except I modified the _game
17:14 Calinou PilzAdam: please don't act like a gnome 3 developer
17:14 Calinou these are exactly the kind of people who piss off other people
17:14 thexyz lol
17:14 PilzAdam Calinou, I dont know any gnome 3 devs
17:14 Nifticus So technically I redistributed a MODIFIED version of Minetest.
17:15 PilzAdam Nifticus, Minetest is the engine, minetest_game is not Minetest
17:15 thexyz http://www.dgsiegel.net/news/2013_07_27-on_why_removing_features_makes_people_unhappy
17:15 thexyz ^ gnome 3 dev
17:15 Nifticus .-.
17:15 thexyz https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6121007
17:20 sfan5 lol
17:21 sdzen then what is minetest pilzadam?
17:21 sdzen the game
17:22 sdzen whats left of it ?
17:22 PilzAdam wat?
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17:23 thexyz Nifticus: all you've done is fine
17:24 thexyz Nifticus: some developers are hard to talk with
17:24 Calinou ^
17:25 thexyz that's what is always true in this wonderful world of open source
17:25 Nifticus True.
17:25 Nifticus Thanks
17:25 Nifticus I guess I'll keep using Minetest.
17:26 Nifticus When I was about 10 years old these kids at my school would tell me I was nothing, I could do nothing, and I would never make a difference.
17:26 Nifticus ^^
17:26 Nifticus Anyone have a detailed/working tutorial for compiling for windows? :o
17:27 PenguinDad Change your OS to Linux
17:28 Nifticus That's basically throwing away Windows 8 -.-
17:28 hdastwb unless you dual-boot
17:28 Nifticus True.
17:32 Calinou compiling on windows is painful, but there are some guides on the forum
17:32 Nifticus Every single time I do it Cmake says there is a problem in the configuration process or whatever
17:33 Calinou yes, missing dependencies
17:33 Calinou hdastwb: or you virtualize :p
17:36 Nifticus Missing depenndencies?
17:36 Nifticus But I download everything
17:36 Calinou you need to download irrlicht, zlib and all that and _point to them_
17:36 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434
17:36 Calinou can be outdated
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17:37 Nifticus The point?
17:37 Nifticus _point?
17:37 Nifticus I use Irrlicht 1.7.3
17:37 Nifticus It's the only one there
17:37 Peacock "accidentally went to prison, how to get out?" <- wouldn't be a very good prison if you could lol
17:37 Calinou you need to point to it
17:37 Calinou Peacock: haha
17:37 Calinou Nifticus: cmake asks you for irrlicht path
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17:38 Nifticus Then what do I do??
17:38 jojoa1997 is there a default limit on how much ram minetest uses
17:39 PilzAdam a physical limit
17:39 PenguinDad AFAIK not
17:39 Exio4 if you use any 32bit OS the limit will be 3.5~ gb?
17:40 PenguinDad So don't VanessaE's HDX textures on 32bit.
17:40 jojoa1997 nope you can
17:40 jojoa1997 use 32x or 16x
17:40 Jordach i contest BULLSHIT
17:40 PenguinDad jojoa1997: i mean 512px
17:40 Jordach i USE 256X without over stepping 500mb
17:40 jojoa1997 my point in asking is minetest has been lagging and i was wondering if i could raise the ram it uses
17:41 Calinou Exio4: ~2GB per process, no?
17:41 Calinou PenguinDad: 512× HDX will work fine
17:41 Jordach you cant change dynamicly allocated ram jojoa1997 - if you want memory changes, go back to your java game
17:41 Calinou I'd be more concerned about VRAM usage than RAM
17:41 Peacock how do you raise the ram it uses and how would that make things better? lol
17:41 jojoa1997 PenguinDad VanessaE doesnt even use that tp
17:41 jojoa1997 Jordach lighten up
17:42 PilzAdam jojoa1997, watched tutorials on how to speed up Minecraft?
17:42 Exio4 lol ^
17:42 jojoa1997 nope
17:42 Exio4 jojoa1997: we aren't using a limited virtual machine
17:42 Jordach jojoa1997, i'm not being dark
17:42 jojoa1997 can you speed up minecraft>
17:42 Peacock go to settings, uncheck every box
17:42 jojoa1997 ?
17:42 jojoa1997 ok
17:42 Calinou there are no checkboxes in minecraft, just things that say "on" and "off" :p
17:42 Peacock alternatively, get a witch doctor to hit you with a wet chicken, i heard that increases rams
17:42 Calinou jojoa1997: get better hardware :)
17:43 jojoa1997 actually i got more ram wich brought up the idea
17:43 Exio4 more slow ram *
17:43 Jordach more ram does not mean better minetest performance
17:43 jojoa1997 hay i said it was an idea
17:43 Peacock better gfx cards helps
17:44 * Jordach agrees
17:44 Exio4 a better cpu with minetest; too
17:44 Peacock the best drivers, a low-intensity os
17:44 Exio4 > best drivers
17:44 Jordach fun fact: i get 40fps in OpenGL using 256 HDX
17:44 Peacock fun fact: you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil
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17:46 Peacock lol i really got someone on my server called Black_jesus
17:50 khonkhortisan the malcom x movie had an argument about whether jesus was black
17:54 Nifticus Racist.
17:55 Peacock lol whats racist about black jesus?
17:55 Jordach what if Jesus WAS BLACK?
17:57 sfan5 if jesus was black god must've been black too
17:58 Peacock that would make Africa god's chosen land
17:58 Peacock twisted sense of humour he's got
17:58 PenguinDad sfan5: or Jesus mother
18:00 BlockMen sfan5, you didnt got the concept of omnipotence?
18:00 Peacock is that when you cant get it up?
18:00 sfan5 Jordach: tell me why this is not working! https://gist.github.com/sfan5/b4f59a1b735c023532d4
18:00 bas0801 it's like saying your father is male and your mother is female. Calling your father "father" is sexist.
18:01 Jordach sfan5, #bash
18:01 BlockMen Peacock, lol
18:01 PilzAdam sfan5, recode that in brainfak, its easier
18:01 Peacock :P
18:01 sfan5 Jordach: not bash but regex
18:01 sfan5 PilzAdam: but that faks my brain
18:02 Peacock regex leads to bashing things sometimes tho
18:03 Peacock (different interpreters different rules)
18:03 hacker > bash
18:03 hacker > [
18:04 sfan5 Exio4!
18:04 hacker sfan5!
18:04 sfan5 MinetestBot!
18:04 MinetestBot sfan5!
18:04 MinetestBot MinetestBot!
18:04 sfan5 hacker: MinetestBot is faster
18:04 PenguinDad Me!
18:04 * sfan5 looks at PilzAdam
18:04 * PilzAdam hides
18:04 PenguinDad PenguinDad!
18:04 VanessaE hi all
18:04 Exio4 sfan5!
18:04 sfan5 Exio4:
18:04 Calinou don't look at kubuntu users, they'll composite you
18:04 hacker dat lag
18:05 hacker what is the exact bug sfan5?
18:05 sfan5 hacker: it doesn't work at all
18:05 sfan5 the regexes seem to do nothing
18:05 sfan5 applysed /tmp/logfile.log 's/KikaRz/poopman/'
18:05 sfan5 ^ that works
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18:06 PilzAdam sfan5.m_regex->getSkill() == 0
18:06 sfan5 not that but
18:06 sfan5 Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 21 times.
18:07 hacker sfan5: weechat logs? :P
18:07 hacker ah
18:07 hacker xchat nvm
18:08 Jordach here sfan5 - you see this M4A1? Ping my name again bitch, I double dare ya!
18:09 * hacker takes his ak47 and looks at Jordach
18:09 * Jordach hits J then holds E
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18:09 sfan5 You wouldn't do this, Jordach
18:09 * sfan5 hides
18:09 * Jordach throws a grenade at sfan5
18:09 Jordach SEEEMMMMMTEEEEXXX!
18:09 Peacock watch out, he's been known to whip out his baguette and hit people with it
18:10 * hacker backstabs Jordach at the time he throws the granade
18:10 sfan5 grenade:disable()
18:10 hacker genade*
18:10 hacker fuck
18:10 hacker grenade
18:10 * Calinou takes his G36 and PSG1, shoots at hacker
18:10 Jordach on_disable(spawn_nade, pos)
18:10 Calinou hacker says "noob weap" and ragequits
18:10 hacker b84b46b83b84b85b83b14,.,.,.,.,.,
18:10 sfan5 missile.new(true):target(Jordach):launch()
18:10 hacker oops, this isn't cs :3
18:10 * Jordach uses fast move
18:11 Jordach nice try sfan5
18:11 hacker the anticheat got you
18:11 sfan5 for i=1,100 do missile.new(true):target(Jordach):launch() end
18:11 Peacock jordach moved too fast, resetting position
18:11 hacker your position got reverted
18:12 sfan5 Peacock:attack(Calinou)
18:12 Calinou sfan5:attack(sfan5)
18:12 Calinou Calinou:attack(nil)
18:12 Jordach Jordach:nuke(all)
18:13 Peacock that wouldn't work, were both french, we can't both surrender :p
18:13 Calinou Nuke is not allowed on this server.
18:13 PenguinDad ERROR: Target is a nil value.
18:13 sfan5 Calinou:play("redeclipse-1.4")  Calinou:busy_state() == true
18:13 khonkhortisan Khonkhortisan:summon(nyancat)
18:13 * hacker makes Calinou segfault
18:14 sfan5 game:get_object("nyancat"):attack(Peacock)
18:14 Calinou Peacock: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/51599121eab8ea5b57000003-590/if-you-hit-the-im-feeling-lucky-button-after-searching-for-french-military-victories-heres-what-google-suggests-you-search-for-instead.jpg
18:14 sfan5 game:get_object("nyancat"):meow()
18:14 Peacock lol, well there was napolean for a while
18:15 Peacock he almost united europe
18:16 sfan5 ..so
18:16 sfan5 are we done fighting?
18:17 * Jordach attacks sfan5 using a kitten crossbow
18:17 Jordach i found a use for the extras
18:17 PilzAdam Peacock, some german guy almost united the whole world
18:17 * hacker stabs Jordach with a chainsaw
18:17 BlockMen Peacock, nice sort of unity -.-
18:17 PenguinDad Left 4 Dead
18:17 BlockMen PilzAdam, he was austrian :P
18:17 sfan5 game:get_object("nyancat"):clone():equip("lasergun"):attack(Jordach)
18:18 * Jordach grabs the nearby toaster
18:18 Peacock well, europe anyways, not sure about the whole world, i think the russians might have something to say about that :p
18:18 Jordach back you go nyan cat!
18:19 BlockMen game = nil
18:19 sfan5 game:get_object("nyancat"):attack(Jordach)
18:19 sfan5 damnit
18:19 sfan5 BlockMen:undo():disable()
18:19 sfan5 game:get_object("nyancat"):attack(Jordach)
18:19 Jordach Jordach:auto_regeneration(100)
18:20 sfan5 game:disable_feature("auto_regenration")
18:20 Jordach sfan5:disable_game_config(true)
18:20 sfan5 Jordach:undo_action()
18:20 Jordach sfan5:undo_action()
18:21 sfan5 Jordach:undo_action()
18:21 Jordach sfan5:undo_action(all)
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18:21 sfan5 Jordach:undo_action(all)
18:21 sfan5 Jordach:remove()
18:21 hacker game:quit()
18:21 sfan5 game = nil
18:21 sfan5 done!
18:21 PilzAdam !op
18:21 PenguinDad hacker:destroy()
18:21 sfan5 was kicked by PilzAdam: sfan5
18:21 Jordach was kicked by PilzAdam: Jordach
18:22 Peacock lol
18:22 sfan5 joined #minetest
18:22 sfan5 !deop PilzAdam
18:22 Peacock arent they both ops tho?
18:22 hacker hacker:hack(#minetest)
18:22 sfan5 Peacock: yes
18:22 PenguinDad #minetest is a nil value
18:23 Jordach joined #minetest
18:23 PenguinDad hacker:hack("#minetest")
18:23 BlockMen #minetest return size of minetest
18:23 BlockMen #minetest = 100
18:23 sfan5 ^ won't work
18:23 Jordach and that PilzAdam is why the community hates you
18:23 Jordach you're no fun
18:23 BlockMen print(#minetest) -> 100
18:23 Peacock lol well it was getting to be a little overkill :P
18:23 sfan5 Jordach: you mean community:hate(PilzAdam) ;)
18:23 PilzAdam :3
18:24 vrga joined #minetest
18:24 * hacker backstabs PilzAdam
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18:24 Peacock too late, we saw your host mouhaha
18:25 * Peacock locks on with futon torpedos
18:25 Jordach futon?
18:25 khonkhortisan the unaffiliated jemadux is on a home network
18:25 Jordach do you fire folding up futons Peacock
18:26 Peacock thats right, i got a folding couch launcher :P
18:26 * khonkhortisan shoots the torpedos with a crouton machine gun
18:26 khonkhortisan good luck getting that out
18:26 hacker !translate es en pedos
18:29 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: translate es en pedos
18:29 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: farts
18:29 sfan5 Jordach: corrected irc stats up! http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
18:30 Calinou gtg
18:30 sfan5 ^ haha
18:30 vrga any difference in using lua-jit vs ordinary lua in terms of this?
18:30 sfan5 no, not really
18:30 Jordach FUUUUUUUUU-- Jordach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 666 actions!
18:31 Calinou oh there are stats!
18:31 VanessaE can someone please chime in my on server thread and help figure out wtf is this guy's problem?  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104044#p104044
18:31 khonkhortisan I'm going to plant a stat.
18:31 VanessaE I'm at a total loss now as to explain it
18:31 khonkhortisan Random ircstats quotes FTW!
18:31 Jordach okay, i call bullshit on Jordach2 getting more fuckin swears
18:32 Jordach we can all agree: markveidemanis seemed to be hated too: 4 kicks were received.
18:32 VanessaE (you'll want to read the rest of the thread, starting at that post
18:32 VanessaE )
18:32 vrga odd. no exec installed. hrrm. funtoo, where'd you fail.
18:32 ShadowNinja 2018 lines...
18:32 hacker sfan5: would you setup my nick alias? init, exio, exio4, hacker, nax and n4x ;P
18:33 sfan5 hacker: maybe
18:33 hacker (mainly because i have like 3 clients connected and fallbacks nick to all of them)
18:34 hacker STHGOM wrote the shortest lines, averaging 18.2 characters per line.
18:34 hacker Infinity_69 was tight-lipped, too, averaging 18.5 characters.
18:34 hacker lol ..
18:34 Jordach tight lipped; giggity
18:34 * Jordach giggles
18:34 Jordach 667 actions
18:36 * vrga goes to rummage into the ebuild
18:38 sfan5 Jordach: stats for minetest dev http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest-dev.html
18:38 kahrl "Nobody beat anyone up. Everybody was friendly."
18:38 BlockMen lol, -> "MinetestBot wasn't very popular, getting kicked 7 times!"
18:39 Jordach she fucking aint
18:39 Jordach she's popular with the men
18:39 khonkhortisan aw the quotes are random
18:39 Jordach ;)
18:39 hacker sapier brings happiness to the world. 14.4% lines contained smiling faces. :)
18:39 hacker haha
18:40 Peacock it kinda concerns me that so many consider the bot a woman lol
18:40 sfan5 sfan5 is also a sad person, crying 1.3% of the time.
18:40 Peacock if the bot is indeed a woman, you should throw in some kinda of kinky talk when you PM it lol
18:40 sfan5 Jordach: any other channels I should do?
18:41 Jordach dunno
18:41 sfan5 Peacock: do you know python? yes? Then program that
18:41 Jordach this channel gets better and better :)
18:42 sfan5 http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest-mods.html
18:42 sfan5 "L4ndM1ne is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 2 times."
18:42 Peacock i know python but that doesnt mean i enjoy it :p
18:43 Peacock besides print() is the same in any language
18:43 khonkhortisan there should! Because people _could_ think, server _would_ think, about something...
18:43 khonkhortisan ^ most common words on this channel
18:44 Peacock if servers could think, we wouldn't need autobahn
18:44 sfan5 Jordach: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/8dromeda.html
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18:44 khonkhortisan hi lulz
18:45 Tesseract Another old yeller was ShadowNinja, who shouted 10.0% of the time! <-- What?
18:45 lulz joined #minetest
18:45 hacker 15:45:24 trekweb-freenode  -- | [lulz] idle: 8 days, 20 hours 40 minutes 44 seconds, signon at: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:20:47
18:45 hacker lol, idle 8 days
18:46 lulz left #minetest
18:46 Nifticus hehe
18:49 thexyz crap shit
18:49 Peacock voxel toilet?
18:50 thexyz there's no sane "warnings" extension for punbb
18:50 thexyz and i'd like to warn the crap out of this post https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104212#p104212
18:50 sfan5 what the...
18:50 VanessaE thexyz: or just delete it.
18:50 Peacock well the usual thing is to just post a reply warning them
18:50 sfan5 just ban Ragnar completly
18:51 Peacock wtf lol
18:51 thexyz Peacock: I'd better remove it and issue a warning
18:51 Peacock yeah
18:51 Peacock just saw
18:51 VanessaE posts like that don't need a warning, they need a delete - nothing pisses a person off more than a post magically disappearing :-)
18:51 thexyz VanessaE: well, in my world "warning" means a bar in user's profile
18:51 thexyz when it overflows user is deleted
18:51 VanessaE "a bar"?
18:51 thexyz and then shoot
18:51 thexyz uh, wait
18:51 Peacock kinda like negative karma lol
18:52 VanessaE interesting idea
18:52 * sfan5 likes how "would" and "should" are in most used words list in every channel
18:52 thexyz VanessaE: well, that's how they usually work
18:52 VanessaE thexyz: we used to use the word "demerits" here for that
18:53 VanessaE but that word I guess has fallen out of favor
18:53 Nifticus hehe
18:53 Peacock they call points on a license demerits here
18:54 sdzen "this post has been flagged as a load of cat scat, click here to see original post"
18:54 sdzen thats what we need :)
18:54 VanessaE haha
18:55 Tesseract sfan5: If you can, please link my nicks too.
18:56 sfan5 if anyone wants nicks linked please post them again now
18:56 thexyz link?
18:56 sfan5 thexyz: link = alias, so pisg doesn't handle them like different
18:57 Tesseract ShadowNinja == Tesseract and hacker == exio == exio4 == init...
19:00 Jordach sfan5, Jordach2 and Jordach_ and Jordach__
19:01 VanessaE bbl
19:02 BlockMen bye everyone
19:03 BlockMen left #minetest
19:03 sdzen sdzen = sdzen1 = muadtralk = Keeway1233 = hmmm
19:04 sfan5 Jordach: got it
19:04 sfan5 sdzen: got it
19:06 PilzAdam joined #minetest
19:06 Jordach aww
19:06 thexyz wait, wut
19:06 PilzAdam my wifi unicorn hates me :-/
19:06 Jordach PilzAdam uses WI-FI?!?!?! HOLY SHITBALLS
19:06 vrga whoever made the funtoo/gentoo ebuild needs to be whacked over the head for not testing it proper.
19:07 thexyz til there's ebuild for minetest
19:08 sfan5 IRC reports regenrated
19:08 sfan5 *regenrated!
19:08 vrga thexyz, whud?
19:08 Jordach !stats
19:08 Jordach ^ we need that
19:08 PilzAdam sfan5, PilzAdam == PilzAdam_
19:09 thexyz vrga: "today i learned"
19:10 hdastwb VanessaE, what are your thoughts on this? https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/50
19:10 vrga thexyz, wish it'd work tho :p
19:11 vrga it installs minetest into: "/var/tmp/portage/games-action/minetest-0.4.7/image/usr/games/" instead of "/usr/games"
19:11 vrga fuck if i know why tho.
19:11 thexyz wait, it's temporary directory
19:11 vrga willing to bet that cmake picked something up somewhere but no clue how to debug that.
19:11 vrga yup.
19:12 thexyz let me emerge it
19:12 Jordach lol :P
19:12 vrga trying now with the proper FEATURES="keepwork" so i can at least see what the hell cmake pulls in.
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19:13 sdzen hdastwb, Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned that in the realm of minetest, there exists pipes that magically teleport players.
19:13 Tesseract hdastwb: #2 is a big issue, at least add escapes like \: and \;.
19:13 Calinou sdzen: ಠ_ಠ
19:14 Jordach there can only be one MLP fan in minetest
19:14 thexyz it sucks that much?
19:15 PenguinDad celestia is software, right?
19:15 sfan5 Jordach: reports regenerated
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19:15 Jordach for fuck sakes sfan5
19:15 sfan5 just wanted to inform your
19:15 sfan5 -r
19:15 Jordach well done - make a auto script or something
19:16 Jordach because reminding me every five mins does piss me off
19:16 Nifticus hehe
19:16 Jordach i cant even leave hexchat without being fucking pinged
19:16 thexyz vrga: works fine here
19:16 vrga thexyz, hrrng.
19:16 Jordach vrga, does your card support OpenGL
19:16 vrga could be a subtle difference on/with funtoo then
19:16 sfan5 lol
19:17 vrga Jordach, that has nothing to do with my issue :p
19:17 sfan5 quote for john_minetest: "Hello everypony from Ecuador!"
19:17 Calinou Tesseract: do u even SSAO
19:17 Calinou </tesseract engine jokes>
19:17 Calinou http://tesseract.gg
19:18 vrga thexyz, any chance you can get me the cmake_install.cmake file from your end?
19:18 Nifticus left #minetest
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19:19 Niften Hey
19:19 Jordach Niften, use hexchat
19:19 Calinou hi
19:19 thexyz vrga: http://bpaste.net/show/120565/
19:19 vrga thexyz, thanks :)
19:20 Niften Hexchat?
19:20 * Calinou stll doesn't get sdzen
19:20 Calinou still*
19:20 Calinou well, it's not like it's easy to understand them anyway
19:20 PenguinDad WeeChat if you are a hard guy :P
19:21 sfan5 !help
19:21 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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19:22 sdzen whats to get Calinou?
19:22 vrga Calinou, why you versioning me?
19:23 vrga thexyz, there's noticeable difference between mine and yours. fuck if i know why. yay, manual compile time :D
19:24 Calinou sdzen: the sentence you said when I joined
19:24 Jordach <Jordach> .py import soul
19:24 Jordach <jenni> ImportError: No module named soul
19:25 sdzen check the logs
19:25 Jordach and this is why we wont get AI
19:25 Calinou vrga: because? :P
19:25 vrga Calinou, ffffuuuu.
19:26 Calinou 2304 people have been hating on versioning, 696 until we reach our goal
19:28 Jordach minetest should adopt rolling release
19:28 vrga i have gotten metro2033 for the 3rd time from humble bundle now. what the satan...
19:28 PilzAdam Jordach, why?
19:28 Calinou Jordach: most distros wouldn't like that
19:28 Tesseract Jordach: git pull?
19:28 Calinou ...this is wby no FOSS rolling release game is popular
19:29 Calinou also, you can just run latest git if you want
19:29 PilzAdam 99 people here
19:29 Calinou used to be 100 :P
19:29 Niften Ohhhh lord.
19:29 Niften xD
19:29 Tesseract sfan5: us_0gb == [0gb_us] == NotReallyNick
19:30 Niften What a difference ^^
19:30 PenguinDad PilzAdam: 2 of them are bots
19:31 Calinou Calinou == ChanServ
19:31 Niften FPSxAMERICA xD
19:31 PenguinDad xD
19:31 Niften I'm looking @ the IRC from yesterday :D
19:31 Niften CaptionZombies12
19:31 Niften xD
19:32 Niften lmao
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19:39 Niften hehe
19:43 Menche Windows requires me to set a password hint, but only recommends setting a password?
19:43 whirm joined #minetest
19:43 Calinou windows logic
19:43 whirm joined #minetest
19:43 Calinou put anything and it'll work, anyway :P
19:43 * Kacey is going to make an ftb modpack
19:43 Calinou a ftb modpack*
19:44 Menche so i could choose to not set a password, but it still requires me to set a hint (gotta have some security, right)
19:44 svuorela how much of a tree do I need to take down for leaves to despawn and saplins appear? and is it different with moretrees trees ?
19:44 vrga Kacey, ye shall be my hero if you do that.
19:44 vrga and if there'll be something equivalent to RP2 in that :p
19:44 Kacey Calinou, i say the letters FTB and f starts with a vowel sound so i say "an"
19:45 Menche leaves decay if there's no tree within a certain distance
19:45 Kacey vrga, mesecons is kinda like rp2
19:45 Kacey along with technic and pipeworks and the like
19:45 Calinou Kacey: ._.
19:45 Menche for a small tree, you'd have to take down all of the trunk except for maybe the very bottom bit
19:46 Calinou svuorela: you can dig the leaf blocks for saplings
19:46 vrga hey, if i can get the industry running ala late tekkit, me happy.
19:46 Kacey and for moretrees, all the tree blocks
19:46 hdastwb Tesseract: I've just finished adding some escapes, but when I tried to test I got a "name contains unallowed characters" error when joining as a user with a colon or semicolon in my name
19:46 svuorela urgh. all treeblocks.
19:46 svuorela I've found 235 treeblocks in this tree so far.
19:46 Menche for a large moretree, couldn't you only remove all the treeblocks from a certain branch, so that section would decay?
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19:47 hdastwb it seems like minetest usernames cannot actually contain colons or semicolons anyway
19:47 Niften Anyone know a good tut on compiling for windows?
19:48 thexyz on compiling minetest for windows?
19:48 thexyz readme.txt is good enough
19:48 sdzen anyone look at the stickies in the forum anymore?
19:48 sdzen :)
19:50 sdzen seriously, if we put compiling instructions in any more places, they would be stapled to your eyelids
19:50 Niften Well
19:51 Niften readme.txt?
19:51 Niften Where is that located?
19:51 Menche if you downloaded minetest, it should be in the folder
19:51 sdzen https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434
19:51 sdzen just follow this dude
19:51 Menche or, just get it direct: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt
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19:53 * PilzAdam throws a grenade at his wifi unicorn
19:53 Niften Mkk.
19:53 Niften ^^
19:53 * Niften
19:53 vrga thexyz, if you're around, could you toss me your $PATH?
19:53 sdzen http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
19:53 Calinou poor wifi unicorn :(
19:53 sdzen ooooh nobody updated the wiki....
19:53 * Niften Every single time I get an error...
19:53 vrga or just if /usr/games/bin is in it?
19:53 Calinou nopony*
19:53 * Niften No tut works.
19:54 Niften Wtf?
19:54 Calinou ftw!
19:54 kahrl Niften: try a different commit
19:54 Calinou I bet he has missing dependencies
19:54 kahrl MSVC build regularly breaks because of... MSVC
19:54 thexyz vrga: yes, it's here
19:55 kaeza joined #minetest
19:55 PenguinDad hello kaeza
19:55 Niften I use V S and CMake.
19:55 VanessaE hdastwb: my thoughts are to merge it :P
19:55 vrga thexyz, thanks
19:55 kaeza hi PenguinDad
19:56 kahrl Niften: visual studio = MSVC, for build purposes
19:56 thexyz Niften: compiling under VS is a pain for several reasons
19:56 thexyz 1) random bugs
19:56 thexyz 2) see #1
19:56 Niften Then what should I use..?
19:56 hdastwb MinGW
19:56 kaeza why isn't this guy banned yet? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104272#p104272
19:56 Calinou it's slower at both compile and run time, but it works
19:57 Menche MinGW installs a bash shell that is infinity times better than cmd.exe
19:57 thexyz Example: all libs are /MT, but WAIT WAIT WHAT IS IT, lua is /MD, suddenly! let's throw linker error!
19:58 thexyz kaeza: what was there?
19:58 Menche windoze uses forward slashes for options, right?
19:58 vrga Menche, anything, i mean anything is better than cmd.exe
19:58 kaeza thexyz, lol
19:59 Niften I'm going to attempt to compile again.
20:02 PilzAdam any forum moderator: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104280#p104280 just ban him, he did this already a few times (creating topics with stupid question)
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20:02 PilzAdam he already got an answer in the jail mod topic
20:02 VanessaE no, do not ban
20:02 Calinou ^
20:02 Calinou close topic
20:02 PenguinDad I said him but he don't understand -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104280#p104280
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20:02 VanessaE you do NOT ban people for asking stupid questions
20:02 PilzAdam he is obviously a torll
20:02 PilzAdam *troll
20:03 VanessaE just delete the thread.
20:03 vrga whoever set the background to not be static deserves a whack upside the head.
20:03 thexyz vrga: what background are you talking about?
20:03 vrga VanessaE, why not. Considering the general level of intelligence of the average minecrafter spouting stuff...
20:03 vrga thexyz, on the forum.
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20:04 VanessaE vrga: because every last one of us has done the same thing at some point in our lives.
20:04 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103960#p103960 that is obviously trolling
20:04 vrga it scrolls at a different rate from the forum itself
20:04 thexyz vrga: but it's static
20:04 thexyz um, no
20:04 Jordach ragnar needs a warning then a bad
20:04 thexyz and drugs are bad, btw
20:04 Jordach ban*
20:04 vrga thexyz, nope.
20:04 Jordach oh, it's already done
20:05 Menche i would say warn him to stop flooding with small questions, then ban if it continues
20:05 thexyz vrga: http://binaryanimal.spb.ru/tmp/tihkal_carpet.gif
20:06 VanessaE thexyz: whoa, mindfuck
20:06 vrga thexyz, my eyes, they bleed.
20:06 Calinou ".ru"
20:06 Calinou that was obvious
20:06 * Calinou gallops away
20:07 vrga thexyz, adding the background-attachment: fixed; to the page in chromium fixes the bg.
20:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: or maybe, just MAYBE the guy doesn't know how to edit a .lua file?
20:07 thexyz vrga: wait, you said >it scrolls at a different rate from the forum itself
20:07 thexyz vrga: and with fixed it doesn't scroll at all which looks really odd
20:08 Niften readme.txt doesn't have any information on compiling.
20:08 VanessaE (or rather, doesn't know how to locate and edit init.lua in the mod in question)
20:08 Menche doesn't know how to edit something? clicky-clicky -> select editor -> clicky -> edit -> save
20:08 Menche doesn't take a rocket surgeon
20:08 Jordach fuck me backwards: Saints Row 4 has a suit called "Craft Miner"
20:08 vrga thexyz, i find it a smidge easier on the eyes when its fixed.
20:08 thexyz i think it's perfect now http://i.imgur.com/aMudYtR.jpg
20:09 VanessaE Menche: clicky-cli---- oh wait...if I do that, will this other thing break?  ---cky...  select editor--- -oh fuck, this could totally trash my system!!!!!!1one---  edit -> save ...  save where?   What if I screw up?
20:09 VanessaE ^^^^ my late mother, doing those steps.
20:09 vrga brb
20:09 Menche thexyz, just set the background to solid bright orange
20:09 Jordach VanessaE, lol
20:09 thexyz vrga: dunno, for me it's the opposite
20:09 thexyz WAIT WAIT
20:09 VanessaE people are afraid to poke around anymore
20:09 VanessaE let alone launch an editor that could actually make changes
20:10 thexyz Menche: that'd be too boring
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20:10 thexyz we should have a different dirt texture though
20:10 thexyz borders are way too visible
20:10 VanessaE huh, I've kinda gotten used to the existing backdrop
20:10 vrga scroll down fast and the flicker becomes a smidge annoying.
20:10 Menche maybe the wood texture?
20:10 hdastwb time to introduce texture packs for the forums as well?
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20:11 Menche because it's like a bulletin BOARD
20:11 hoodedice *Yawn*
20:11 PenguinDad MESE-Texture
20:11 hoodedice !seen Peacock
20:11 MinetestBot hoodedice: peacock was last seen at 2013-08-06 18:51:24 UTC on #minetest
20:11 Menche the mese texture?
20:11 * Menche 's eyes start burning thinking about that
20:11 thexyz vrga: i focus at content so this WORKSFORME
20:11 Calinou maybe sand background, if you want to change
20:11 vrga thexyz, heh
20:12 thexyz closed (wontfix)
20:12 thexyz dunno, really
20:12 vrga or closed(couldnt find a fuck to give) :p
20:12 PilzAdam we have a background in the forums?
20:12 thexyz different "dirt" texture, that is, just make existing one better, anyone?
20:12 sdzen I thought you could disable it from the settings menu
20:12 sdzen not anymore?
20:13 thexyz PilzAdam: are you using links?
20:13 hoodedice We do?
20:13 PilzAdam thexyz, why not?
20:13 vrga lets try this now.
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20:13 vrga oh god. the textures are so muddled
20:14 Jordach why cant we use the grass texture
20:14 sfan5 because the would be too grassy
20:14 Calinou why not sand?
20:14 thexyz because it's bla^Wgreen
20:14 Calinou if you want something brighter
20:14 sdzen but the dirt texture is so dirty
20:14 VanessaE because it would be too sandy? :)
20:14 sdzen I would never let my kids watch it
20:14 PenguinDad Calinou: i agree
20:14 thexyz anyway, test it and send a screenshot
20:17 Niften Anyone know an updated compiling tut?
20:17 Niften Windows?
20:17 sdzen how about the existing one niften
20:17 thexyz the one in readme
20:17 Niften On the dev?
20:18 Niften There is none in the readme
20:18 * sdzen glares daggers at Niften
20:18 sdzen readme.txt
20:18 sdzen have you even downloaded the source?
20:18 Niften Yes...
20:18 Niften Oh, the one in the core engine?
20:18 Niften Aye,
20:18 Niften let me take a look @ that.
20:18 sdzen yes
20:19 Menche here, even selected the line: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L116
20:19 Niften "- This section is outdated. In addition to what is described "
20:19 sdzen do you want us to hold your hand darling?
20:20 Niften Outdated.
20:20 Menche just download the extra libraries it mentions
20:20 Menche the rest should still be valid
20:21 Menche if you don't need sound, then add -DENABLE_SOUND=0 to the cmake line
20:21 Menche then you just need to get minetest_game
20:21 Jordach 103 users! we have set a new channel record
20:22 Menche cue tons of bots joining
20:22 sdzen http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest Updated the wiki abit
20:24 * Calinou steals Princess Celestia from sdzen
20:24 Menche Best way to compile minetest: 1) install linux if you're not already using it
20:25 Niften Is OpenAL neccassary?
20:25 * Jordach is busy with creating Market Streer
20:25 Jordach Street*
20:25 Menche openAL is only necessary if you want sound
20:25 * PenguinDad is annoyed about Niften
20:25 Menche if you don't want sound, leave openAL out and add -DENABLE_SOUND=0 to the cmake line
20:25 Niften Mk.
20:26 Jordach wait one second
20:26 * Jordach is really suspicious
20:26 Jordach Niften == reactor
20:26 Niften ^^
20:26 Calinou Menche: or install it in virtualbox, and hope MT runs well inside :P
20:26 Jordach the only other person to say "mk" is reactor
20:27 Menche back to a nice round 100 users on irc
20:28 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add version checker since so many people are confused about which version to use. 03327a767d 2013-08-06T13:28:05-07:00 http://git.io/pLilNA
20:29 Menche LOL, read the message that gets sent there
20:29 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104164#p104164
20:29 * Calinou facehoof
20:29 Calinou Jordach: it does
20:29 Niften Niften
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20:29 Niften Aww.
20:29 Menche "HEY YOU! YES, YOU OVER THERE. THIS VERSION OF WORLDEDIT REQUIRES MINETEST 0.4.8 OR LATER! YOU HAVE AN OLD VERSION."
20:29 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add initial code for worldedit_infinity. 4c43bf3600 2013-08-06T13:29:00-07:00 http://git.io/qR9uyQ
20:29 Calinou " you can only have three programs open at once" I don't think so either
20:29 Jordach Calinou, it does
20:30 Calinou I've had more than 3 open at once
20:30 Calinou and you can change the wallpaper hackily
20:30 sdzen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44rIQYnJnQw incase you need some basic visuals of the premise of what we are asking you to do Niften
20:31 Niften Thanks ^^
20:32 Jordach keep calm and carry on: Niften is reactor
20:32 Niften Is that a bad thing or a good thing?
20:32 Niften :o
20:36 Niften I never knew Oliveritv updated it
20:36 hoodedice So...
20:37 hoodedice *Silence*
20:38 Calinou Jordach: reactor using Windows? :)
20:38 Calinou haha
20:38 Jordach but it makes odd sense
20:38 Jordach <Niften> Mk.
20:38 Jordach who ELSE says Mk.
20:38 Menche Mk
20:39 * Menche just did
20:39 * Jordach slaps Menche with a copy of windows 8
20:39 PenguinDad mkdir mkfifo
20:39 * Menche gets a horrible rash where windows 8 touched him
20:39 * sdzen throws a bucket of cool win95 on Menches rash
20:40 * Menche catches fire
20:40 Jordach it looks like menche has to........ open some windows
20:40 * PenguinDad throws healing Linux on Menche.
20:41 hoodedice sudo
20:41 sdzen can minetest run on win95?
20:41 hoodedice No
20:41 hoodedice Because binaries
20:41 sdzen :(
20:41 Menche ?
20:41 hoodedice Install Lubuntu or Xubuntu on that rig
20:41 sdzen what am I going to do with all my floppies then?
20:42 hoodedice Then try playing it
20:42 Jordach DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY
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20:42 hoodedice (Can minetest run on a P2 600 MHz?)
20:42 * PilzAdam doesnt have anything left to throw at the wifi unicorn
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20:42 Menche can you run minetest on Fedora Core 2?
20:43 Calinou sdzen: put Minetest rule 34 on them
20:43 Calinou Jordach: >:( draw us some megabytes of that
20:43 Menche i have a howto book that came with a copy
20:44 * Jordach wonders what "worldedit-infinity" is
20:44 hoodedice EPIC TROLL: Play flightgear multiplayer with a call name of a plane that crashed
20:44 * PenguinDad too.
20:44 hoodedice Wait for the reaction)
20:45 sdzen dangit Calinou now my mind is full of kinky shit
20:45 * Calinou steals Princess Celestia from sdzen again and does kinky stuff to her
20:45 Jordach i thought sop
20:45 Jordach -p
20:46 * sdzen still has luna, "and you will never find her!"
20:47 thexyz Fun facts: there are 19 replies and zero prooflinks in this thread https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6715
20:56 Kacey can you put a modpack within another modpack?
20:56 PilzAdam dunno, try it
20:57 Calinou I don't think you can
20:57 kaeza yes you can
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20:58 artur99 how are these images made: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5757/mapn.png ?
20:59 Jordach if anyone looks at that map: there is a VISIBLE GRID
20:59 artur99 so, how to do that?
20:59 VanessaE Jordach: old map
21:00 PilzAdam artur99, with the minetestmapper
21:00 VanessaE and that's minetestmapper.py that does it
21:00 VanessaE in the util folder
21:00 PilzAdam look in util/ of minetest
21:00 kaeza or this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
21:00 VanessaE (I use the C++ version)
21:01 artur99 and where are the map images saved?
21:01 Jordach in the output dir you put it in
21:01 artur99 i used minetest_mapper.exe
21:01 artur99 and it opens and close
21:02 artur99 and nothing apears
21:02 Jordach artur99, it's a command line tool
21:02 Calinou yep
21:02 Jordach not a gui tool
21:02 Calinou you also need to give it some arguments
21:02 PilzAdam it doesnt have a GUI
21:02 Calinou (it'd be nice if we had a GUI tool, too, I guess)
21:02 Calinou but not essential
21:03 VanessaE sdzen: *poke*
21:03 sdzen hmmm?
21:03 VanessaE sdzen: you still maintaining your old building_blocks mod? ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=674 )
21:03 * sdzen felt a touch
21:03 sdzen yes I am
21:03 sdzen it isn't out of date yet is it?
21:03 VanessaE ok, looking to add support for HDX.
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21:03 VanessaE just wanted to make sure if there was a point to doing so :)
21:04 sdzen I need to update my crafting images
21:06 artur99 where must this be placed> https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py ?
21:06 PenguinDad artur99: we are talking about minetest
21:07 Menche is blockplanet still alive?
21:07 artur99 and that isnt a minetest mapper?
21:07 artur99 idk
21:07 artur99 i found it on google
21:07 Menche https://github.com/mireq/minetest-mapper-cpp
21:07 Jordach reminder: artur uses windows
21:08 Menche is minetestmapper.py included in the windoze package?
21:09 PilzAdam Menche, no
21:09 artur99 but this works> http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/random/2011-05/minetestmapper.tar.gz ?
21:09 Calinou artur99: very old, won't work
21:09 Menche try this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py
21:09 Kacey bbiab
21:10 Menche the very latest
21:10 Calinou it doesn't even work with 0.2_20110922 maps :P
21:10 artur99 Google Chrome says> This website contain malware programms, etc... when i acces http://celeron.55.lt/
21:11 Menche the link i gave to github is the latest python mapper
21:12 Calinou night
21:12 Menche and if you have mods installed, you need a more complete colors.txt
21:12 artur99 requested python version is not installed
21:13 artur99 :(
21:13 Menche VanessaE has a pretty extensive colors.txt here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt
21:13 Menche do you have python installed?
21:13 artur99 yes
21:13 PilzAdam lol "Google says"
21:13 Menche iirc it requires python 2
21:13 Menche and pil
21:13 Menche http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
21:14 artur99 i will stop trying that
21:14 artur99 its too difficult
21:14 artur99 so many downloads
21:14 artur99 i must go to sleep
21:14 artur99 bye!
21:15 PilzAdam the problem is definitely windows
21:15 Menche does running python from cmd work? windows tends to neglect adding programs to the PATH
21:15 artur99 the problem is python
21:16 Menche lol, just get python 2
21:16 PilzAdam python works perfectly fine
21:16 Menche that's the version it needs
21:16 PilzAdam must be windows thats wrong
21:16 artur99 no, windows its not worng
21:16 PenguinDad never call python or ruby a problem
21:17 artur99 its ultimate
21:17 artur99 whats ruby?
21:17 Menche another programming language
21:17 artur99 but java is better than both
21:17 PenguinDad http://ruby-lang.org
21:17 Menche eeeww
21:17 PenguinDad !title
21:17 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Can't connect to http://ruby-lang.org
21:17 Menche java isn't even the same category as python or ruby
21:18 artur99 !title
21:18 MinetestBot artur99: Can't connect to http://ruby-lang.org
21:18 Menche python and ruby are scripting languages
21:18 artur99 what is that?
21:18 artur99 like php and html?
21:18 Menche i think php is, html isn't a programming language
21:18 thexyz better use pillow, it's a pil fork
21:18 PenguinDad http://www.ruby-lang.org/
21:18 artur99 k
21:18 PenguinDad !title
21:18 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No title found
21:18 artur99 bye
21:19 artur99 !title
21:19 MinetestBot artur99: No title found
21:19 * Jordach re-appears
21:19 * Menche wonders if you could integrate code from Wubi into a virus and embed it in the windows version of minetest
21:20 Menche so it installs linux when you run it
21:20 Jordach then AVs kill it and terminate it
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21:27 hoodedice so...
21:27 hoodedice Jordach, AVs kill anything they like
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21:29 Octupuslegs Hi
21:29 Octupuslegs Can someone give me the latst git on minetest
21:30 PilzAdam Octupuslegs, why dont you get it yourself?
21:30 Octupuslegs PilzAdam: i been away from minetest for over half of a year  i dont remember where anything is anymore
21:31 hacker http://github.com/minetest/minetest
21:31 hacker http://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
21:31 hacker yw
21:31 Octupuslegs thank you sir
21:31 PilzAdam go to minetest.net, youll find everything there
21:32 hoodedice PIlzAdam.
21:32 hoodedice Be more sensitive
21:32 hoodedice -.-
21:32 hacker he is somewhat right though
21:33 hacker oh man
21:33 Octupuslegs Is there 1 official build now or still multiple builds?
21:33 hacker 1 official build
21:33 hoodedice One official
21:33 Jordach several multiples
21:33 hacker only for stable; then a lot of "non-official builds" compiled from somewhere; with newer versions
21:34 hoodedice Unofficial here
21:34 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=3
21:34 hoodedice !title
21:34 MinetestBot hoodedice: General Discussion (Page 1) — Minetest Forums
21:34 Octupuslegs which one is most developed atm,this will be my last question
21:34 hoodedice Depends on you.
21:34 hoodedice Start with the stable, then experiment
21:35 hacker Octupuslegs: all those builds are from git
21:35 hacker the thing that changes is the compiler and not a lot of stuff more than the directx support from msvc builds
21:35 Octupuslegs Yes i know,but which one is more commonly used now
21:36 hacker it depends a lot, but a lot of people uses the stable
21:36 hacker people that tends to "try" builds always use the latest available; doesn't matter if it is sfan5's, PilzAdam's, or nonwhere
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21:50 hoodedice ...
21:51 Octupuslegs Anyone got skype btw
21:51 sdzen M$ product!
21:51 * sdzen hisses
21:51 Octupuslegs oh shit sdzen, how long ago have i friggin seen you :0
21:52 hacker yes, i have skype, i hacked it
21:52 hacker because i'm a hacker!
21:52 hacker h4x0r p0w4!
21:52 hacker nah ;P
21:52 Octupuslegs skype is free
21:52 sdzen I think I was with your mother in the bedroom on the 10th with the spoon
21:55 Octupuslegs :/
21:56 Menche windows is nagging me to set up backup
21:56 Octupuslegs first time playing minetest is months,this is so exciting
21:56 Menche ...i don't do anything important on windows to backup
21:56 Octupuslegs Menche,and im gonna join your server for my first trial in months
21:57 Menche my server is sort of in shambles right now
21:57 Octupuslegs how comez?
21:57 Menche was going to reset it, got sidetracked...
21:57 Menche griefing around the spawn
21:58 Menche a bug in a mod allowed players infinite materials. result: diamonds scattered all over
21:58 Menche !up menche.servegame.com
21:58 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (598ms)
21:58 Octupuslegs oh
21:58 Octupuslegs my bank got wrecked is that what your saying lol
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21:59 Menche where? sealife cove?
21:59 Octupuslegs close to
21:59 Octupuslegs it was right at spawn
21:59 Menche since you were on last, i did a reset but transfered most of the spawn area over
22:00 Octupuslegs ahh
22:00 Menche sealife cove and glue city are in ruins
22:00 hoodedice Hangouts is better
22:01 Tesseract Menche: May I know which mod it was? I know of one...
22:01 Menche it was specialties
22:02 Menche specialties also enabled node drops, which i disabled
22:02 Menche and put 5 files per player in my world folder
22:02 Menche needless to say, i removed it
22:02 * Tesseract knows of annother one on Menche's server. But it is aparently more obscure.
22:02 Octupuslegs Menche,did OC discontinue his servers
22:03 Menche oldcoder? no, i don't think so
22:03 Octupuslegs what about RBAs
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22:04 Menche not sure
22:04 Tesseract VanessaE: Did you get my message about pipeworks nodes?
22:04 VanessaE no?
22:05 Menche there should be a standard way of indicating the version of a git build
22:05 Tesseract It seems the nodenames were changed. I have a bunch of unknown nodes on my server from it but it is running.
22:05 VanessaE possibly nodebreakers and deployers?
22:05 Menche some use the git hash, one uses the git has + a description, i prefer the date
22:05 VanessaE or, update to the latest pipeworks
22:06 VanessaE you might have that config bug I just fixed.
22:06 Menche *hash
22:06 Tesseract It was everything except extractors and the like, updating...
22:07 Octupuslegs Minetest,should have an faster way to connect to servers
22:07 Menche ?
22:07 Menche faster than the built in serverlist?
22:08 Menche you mean it's taking a while to log on?
22:08 Octupuslegs Yes
22:08 Octupuslegs im still on pipeworks
22:08 Octupuslegs for textures
22:08 Menche try disabling Preload item visuals
22:08 Tesseract There, it's fixed.
22:09 Menche with Preload item visuals enabled, it prepares the textures of every single node and item, whether or not you will be seeing it right away
22:09 Menche takes a while with a lot of mods
22:10 Menche also, using a build with cURL greatly speeds up downloading media from a supported server
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22:14 VanessaE sdzen: could I get you to do a quick update to building_blocks?  knife, marble, and tar pngs don't follow the usual modname_nodename.xxx convention.
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22:23 PilzAdam I just want to announce that I hate everyone who uses the spoiler thingy for commit logs in windows builds
22:24 sdzen sure VanessaE
22:24 VanessaE thanks
22:26 sdzen who would use it for a commit log?
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22:29 hoodedice !seen Peacock
22:29 MinetestBot hoodedice: peacock was last seen at 2013-08-06 18:51:24 UTC on #minetest
22:29 hoodedice -.-
22:31 sdzen looks like le cock has a fan
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22:31 lordcirth VanessaE, I am having trouble logging into your server.  A client is already connected, etc.  DO you know how to reset that?
22:31 VanessaE lordcirth: this problem is already known.  lots of people are having it and it's not just my server now
22:31 VanessaE Landrush and Remobo too
22:32 Menche Remobo? there's still servers using that?
22:32 VanessaE apparently
22:32 sdzen remoboray I assume?
22:32 lordcirth VanessaE, Yes, I checked the forum thread.  I was just wondering if there's a fix
22:32 VanessaE not yet
22:32 VanessaE but the devs know about it, and for the moment even c55 is confused :-)
22:33 PilzAdam this is a release blocking bug
22:33 VanessaE absolutely.
22:34 PilzAdam things do not look good for RBA's magazine
22:34 sdzen time to pacaur -S minetest-git again, odd I didn't think mine was out of date
22:34 VanessaE RBA said he will delay it until the following issue if necessary
22:36 sdzen so whats this about a magazine?
22:37 Menche what's the best version of node_ownership? codeandfix's repository?
22:37 sdzen I hate that version
22:37 sdzen go for the one Raphael fixed
22:38 Tesseract Menche: My areas mod. :-)
22:38 sdzen it operates more like the original one
22:38 Tesseract shadowninja.minetest.net/areas.tgz
22:38 Menche how does areas work?
22:38 Tesseract (It requires WorldEdit for position setting)
22:38 VanessaE sdzen: there's some major Polish mag that wants to do an exposé on MT and make a DVD release of it + lots of extras
22:39 Tesseract //p set /set_owner singleplayer The spawn area!
22:39 sdzen Tesseract, that sounds like unwanted dependency area
22:39 Tesseract sdzen: I didn't want to copy all of it.
22:40 Tesseract Most servers have WE anyway.
22:40 Menche so it is basically an easier interface on top of the original node_ownership?
22:41 sdzen man minetest is deathly slow compiling.....
22:41 Tesseract No, a total rewrite.
22:41 Menche sdzen: raphael's node_ownership appears to be hosted at omploader
22:41 Menche which appears to be dead
22:42 sdzen oof
22:42 sdzen I keep a copy around
22:42 sdzen I will reupload it I guess
22:43 Menche will the next version of minetest have biomes defined in lua so mapgen v7 can be used out of the box?
22:44 PilzAdam Menche, no
22:44 sdzen so whens 0.4.8 coming out?
22:44 sdzen 0.4.7 stable is already pretty out of date
22:44 Menche why? you're releasing it with a mapgen that requires extra modding to be functional?
22:45 Tesseract Menche: :-( At least use VanessaE's fork.
22:46 PilzAdam Menche, because thats the point of the mapgen
22:46 PilzAdam games can decide to use it
22:46 Menche ...so the "official" game isn't going to decide to use a feature that is included by default
22:46 PilzAdam because v7 isnt finished yet
22:47 PilzAdam it will use it if v7 is finished
22:48 Menche then hide it from the GUI world menu? some new player will download the stable, make a world with what looks like the newest mapgen available, and get stoneland
22:48 PilzAdam they dont get stoneland if they will use pilztest
22:49 Menche yeah, but pilztest isn't the official game
22:49 sdzen new players do not look in the forums
22:49 sdzen I played minetest for a good 3 months before I even glanced at it
22:49 Menche you're including mapgenv7 while you're working on it, why not include biome definitions for it while you're working on those?
22:49 PilzAdam Menche, there is no such thing called "official game"
22:49 PilzAdam there is only a game developed by the core developers
22:50 sdzen a mentality like that Pilzadam is likely to get you shot
22:50 sdzen now pony up and say that its official
22:50 Menche minetest_game is shipped with the official builds and is alongside the engine's repository; that's as "official" as a game can get
22:50 sdzen otherwise remove it from the windows builds now
22:50 sdzen NOW!
22:50 sdzen with minimal
22:51 PilzAdam Menche, Pilztest will probably be shipped with the official windows builds too
22:51 PilzAdam and other games too
22:51 sdzen how do you decide which to ship?
22:51 sdzen will there be a contest?
22:51 Menche so a motley bunch of seemingly unrelated games will be included by default?
22:51 sdzen is crevis involved?
22:51 PilzAdam Menche, why not?
22:52 PilzAdam sdzen, basically everyone who asks
22:52 PilzAdam its not officialy decided yet, though
22:52 sdzen oh Pilzadam you know that cant be done in that way
22:53 PilzAdam hm?
22:53 * Jordach has a iso of LM15 Cinnamon
22:53 Jordach and a dvd to burn it too
22:53 sdzen by leaving it open to simple asking the minetest download size would become so large it would be over a gigabyte
22:55 PilzAdam what makes you think like that?
22:55 Menche i think it would make the best impression if there was one "official" quality, consistent game
22:55 sdzen A better suggestion would be to direct new users towards a selection box or webpage where they can pick and choose
22:55 PilzAdam Menche, feel free to create one
22:55 sdzen how much have you actually thought of this Pilzadam?
22:55 PilzAdam I tried it, it resulted in major shitstorms
22:55 Menche one i made would be sans the "official" part
22:56 PilzAdam Menche, who makes "official" games in a FOSS game then?
22:56 Menche unless i could get all the core devs to recommend it, drop minetest_game, and move it alongside the engine.. HA! HA HA!
22:56 Exio4 sdzen: it is not like it is .. "add all the games around"
22:57 Exio4 it is add all the games that are "worth it"
22:57 Menche the project that is making the game
22:57 Menche that is the official game
22:57 sdzen Exio4, PilzAdam: Menche, Pilztest will probably be shipped with the official windows builds too
22:57 sdzen (06:51:07 PM) PilzAdam: and other games too
22:57 Exio4 that + common sense
22:57 sdzen and pilzadam himself attested above
22:57 Menche minetest_game is the official minetest game
22:57 sdzen that asking would only be nessacary
22:57 Menche at least i thought it was
22:58 Jordach Suggestion: pack technic_game, minetest_game, dwarves, OCD and PilzTest
22:58 Jordach those five games show minetest's engine
22:58 PilzAdam Jordach, and MiniTest
22:58 Jordach PilzAdam, yeah
22:59 Menche minetest_game is developed by the same group as the minetest engine, is under the same github user, is bundled with official minetest builds
22:59 Menche there should be a link or some way to download 3rd party games, but i don't think everyone and his dog should be able to have their game bundled with the official builds
23:00 VanessaE sdzen: in building blocks, what kind of knife is it supposed to be?
23:01 PilzAdam you do realize that therea are only very few games in the "games" forum? and that more than half of them are "dead"?
23:01 sdzen a knife composed of tar
23:02 VanessaE heh ok
23:04 Menche so, there aren't many active game modes, therefore we must include all of them
23:04 sdzen celeron55(March 26th 2012) The minetest repository will stay the same as before,  except that it will no more contain the full game. It contains the  current game content renamed as “The minimal development test”,  gameid=minimal, which will be cleaned over time and extended to  minimally test new engine features as they are developed.
23:04 PilzAdam Menche, whats the difference between list of downloadable games and a list of already downloaded games?
23:05 sdzen so we keep minimal, and actually use it as intended :)
23:05 sdzen less space cluttering my disc drive Pilzy
23:05 Menche I'm going to file a bug report with Ubuntu; they should ship Ubuntu with all the packages in the repostitories already downloaded and installed
23:06 Menche so you don't have to download anything
23:06 Menche plus all the PPAs in launchpad also
23:06 kahrl Menche: including all software that will be written in the future, of course
23:06 Jordach Menche, if you're not happy: #minetest-dev
23:06 sdzen maybe minetest is trying to emulate slackware
23:06 Menche that appears to be what PilzAdam is suggesting
23:07 Exio4 minetest will get some "good games" by default
23:07 Exio4 like adding a "technic one" or stuff like that
23:07 * Jordach votes OCD
23:07 sdzen how about minimal by default
23:07 sdzen and actually test features on it!
23:07 Menche what's the point of minimal anyway?
23:07 sdzen scroll up
23:07 Exio4 nobody got it yay
23:07 sdzen The minetest repository will stay the same as before,  except that it will no more contain the full game. It contains the  current game content renamed as “The minimal development test”,  gameid=minimal, which will be cleaned over time and extended to  minimally test new engine features as they are developed.
23:07 Menche apparently minetest_game is what is used for testing features
23:07 sdzen from celeron55's blog
23:07 PilzAdam Menche, really good argument
23:07 PilzAdam sdzen, do you know how much space one game takes?
23:07 Exio4 sdzen: "minetest_game" is the actual "default mt game"
23:08 Menche when was the last time a new feature was added to minimal?
23:08 sdzen Exio4, not to pilzadam
23:08 Exio4 i said *actual* pre-installed
23:08 kahrl minimal is meant to help with git bisect
23:08 sdzen not if your on linux Exio4
23:09 sdzen why should it be that way on windows?
23:09 Exio4 ?
23:09 sdzen if you download the source and compile it
23:09 Exio4 yes, ?
23:09 sdzen is minetest_game installed?
23:09 Menche nope
23:09 Exio4 read the README
23:09 Menche i seem to recall bringing that up
23:09 sdzen optional!
23:09 sdzen bang!
23:09 sdzen not preinstalled
23:09 sdzen :)
23:09 Exio4 all games are "optional" in that sense..
23:09 Menche the consensus of the "core devs" represented on irc at the time was that nothing should be preinstalled
23:10 Exio4 arg
23:10 sdzen ding ding
23:10 sdzen Menche you are right
23:10 Exio4 whatever, think that
23:10 Exio4 i think my english is just shitty enough for not being able to clarify myself
23:11 PilzAdam Exio4, no, I think its sdzen and Menche not understanding that there cant be one game everyone is happy with
23:11 sdzen then have none installed
23:11 sdzen we know that perfectly
23:11 hdastwb so, how long until we get a game database like the new mod database?
23:11 sdzen haha!
23:11 Exio4 that is the 'main' idea hdastwb
23:11 sdzen now someones talking
23:12 sdzen at least pilzadam isn't asking for common back
23:13 Exio4 what i meant by pre-installed what was the "survival" and "creative" game were
23:13 Exio4 they are in other repository for making the commit log clear
23:14 Menche what is minimal's reason for existence anyway?
23:14 Exio4 oh man
23:14 Exio4 whatever
23:14 Exio4 i will do other things
23:15 Jordach minimal should be the framework for creating new games for the engine
23:15 sdzen kahrl! reappear and tell menche again
23:15 sdzen ding ding!
23:15 sdzen “The minimal development test”,  gameid=minimal, which will be cleaned over time and extended to  minimally test new engine features as they are developed.
23:15 Jordach let's face it; minimal is empty until yopu add your own content
23:15 sdzen bringing this old blog post again
23:16 Kacey bbl
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23:18 sdzen Minetest-c55 is one of the first InfiniMiner/Minecraft(/whatever)  inspired games (started October 2010), with a goal of taking the  survival multiplayer gameplay to a slightly different direction.  -- how about we make a gamemode centered around this?
23:19 sdzen :)
23:20 PilzAdam_ sdzen, celerons original idea was to build upon the dungeons in Minecraft and make them more dungeon crawler like
23:20 sdzen yep!
23:20 Exio4 how about we make a gamemode centered around this?
23:20 Exio4 -- sdzen's solution
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23:21 Exio4 suddenly, there is real people to talk about and "decide" what stuff should be in the "official" game, "default", "pre-installed", the shit you may like
23:21 Exio4 if we, as community, tried to have the "game where everybody is happy"
23:21 Exio4 we wouldn't even have minimal
23:21 sdzen it would be siht :)
23:21 sdzen shit*
23:22 Exio4 your spelling is worse than mine
23:22 Menche so, make minetest the universal game by taking gameplay in every possible direction at once
23:23 Octupuslegs Is redcrab servers still up?
23:23 Menche yep
23:23 sdzen Menche, that seems to be happening now :)
23:23 Exio4 that would be shit, because you would have "classic" swords with laser swords, and future-like weapons
23:23 sdzen and immortality
23:24 Exio4 plus mobs that are laggy like hell and signs that get duplicated client-sidely
23:24 sdzen and flight
23:24 Exio4 you have flight
23:24 Menche i think minetest should have one "official" direction to go
23:24 PilzAdam_ Octupuslegs, we still have the forum where you can look such things up
23:24 Menche other games that do things differently are other projects
23:25 sdzen yes
23:25 Octupuslegs PilzAdam_: jeez i already got my answer, didnt mean to annoy anyone
23:25 PilzAdam_ hm? who is annyoed?
23:25 Menche there should be a directory of those 3rd party projects, but the main minetest project can't attempt to do everything at once
23:25 sdzen but there needs to be at least one game to set the stage and demonstrate
23:25 Exio4 ...
23:25 Exio4 ........................................
23:26 Menche lets print out lines of punctuation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23:26 sdzen Pilzadam, please be calm and civil to everyone, we don't wish to frighten guests
23:26 PilzAdam_ sdzen, what? who frightens guests?
23:26 Exio4 we got a redhat sponsored troll
23:27 Octupuslegs Sdzen,im not a quest
23:28 PilzAdam_ did I say anything wrong?
23:28 Octupuslegs i been on your server,before you made NotObamaLand when there was weed growing and such
23:28 Menche Octupuslegs was around when I first started my server like over a year ago
23:28 sdzen X( missing the point
23:29 Exio4 http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&amp;m=137392506516022&amp;w=2
23:30 Octupuslegs Yes Menche,then i been over minecraft TO LONG and then it got boring so i came back to the fun'
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23:32 jin_xi so i have luaJIT installed but want to rebuild mt without it. how do i do that?
23:33 NekoGloop magical elven powers
23:33 sdzen interesting question
23:33 Exio4 jin_xi: why would you want that? :P
23:33 jin_xi helpful as ever...
23:34 sdzen we will help all we can
23:34 sdzen but...
23:34 Exio4 no, i'm searching for it right now; but i want to know why you would like to disable it :P
23:34 jin_xi because it fucks my shit up
23:34 PilzAdam_ jin_xi, set LUA_INCLUDE_DIR and _LIBARY manually
23:34 Exio4 jin_xi: how?
23:35 sdzen doesn't it mess up a very few select mods?
23:35 PilzAdam_ jin_xi, or go to src/CMakeLists.txt and comment out lines 184 to 190
23:35 Menche it used to break with something in builtin, but that's obviously been fixed now
23:36 sdzen I think there was something else as well
23:36 Exio4 Menche: that got fixed in the commit "when switching to luajit"
23:37 Exio4 it got fixed in the *same* commit it got supported
23:38 lordcirth How hard would it be to get a mod included in technic_game ?
23:38 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix uninitialized irr::SEvent fields in guiFormSpecMenu.cpp 7294f28c3a 2013-08-06T16:36:19-07:00 http://git.io/KkUmIg
23:38 sdzen because I asked someone why we didn't use just luajit, and there was a answer
23:38 sdzen well you have to get realbadangels permission
23:38 sdzen I could do it for you too but I am abit skitish about adding sutff
23:38 sdzen what is it?
23:39 lordcirth sdzen, wireless transmitters for digilines
23:40 sdzen did you open a pull request yet?
23:40 lordcirth sdzen, I also have a digipad, keyboard & console in a mod, but I need textures still
23:40 lordcirth sdzen, not yet, was wondering if it would actually get looked at
23:41 PilzAdam_ Exio4, but singing arround a campfire is so much fun :-/
23:41 lordcirth I submitted a pull request to jeija's digilines, that was 3 mo ago
23:41 iqualfragile lordcirth: he is kind of gone, you know
23:41 hdastwb why are you installing mods to games/minetest-game/mods/ ?
23:41 iqualfragile nobody realy knows what happened
23:41 sdzen I get emailed about technic daily
23:42 sdzen so I see all the requests
23:42 sdzen :)
23:43 Octupuslegs i havent realized how much memories i have in redcrab
23:43 sdzen I kinda have been shirking my job as official texture monkey of technic
23:44 lordcirth sdzen, so how do I make a pull request to add a repo as a submodule?
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23:44 sdzen lets continue this in PM
23:45 * PilzAdam_ spotted another Kabel Deutschland user
23:50 jin_xi PilzAdam: just so you know: if you set the paths manually to the old (non jit) files you still get "LuaJit found" message
23:50 jin_xi thanks tho
23:50 PilzAdam what does LuaJIT break, btw?
23:51 sdzen it had something to do with serialization
23:51 sdzen IIRC
23:51 PilzAdam sdzen, no, there was a character that cant be escaped with \
23:52 jin_xi idk why it is, but it breaks that forth thing i did in a weird way
23:52 sdzen (07:35:46 PM) PilzAdam_: jin_xi, or go to src/CMakeLists.txt and comment out lines 184 to 190
23:52 sdzen did you try this suggestion yet?
23:52 jin_xi ofc
23:54 sdzen Pilzadam I don't believe I was talking about the issue that was in the builtin.lua
23:55 sdzen or am I forgetting things
23:55 sdzen prolly both
23:55 PilzAdam what?
23:56 sdzen just forget me Pilzadam
23:56 sdzen my mind is fried right now
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