Time  Nick            Message
00:07 hoodedice       !seen Peacock
00:07 MinetestBot     hoodedice: Sorry, I haven't seen peacock around.
00:07 hoodedice       !seen hoodedice
00:07 MinetestBot     hoodedice: hoodedice was last seen at 2013-08-06 00:05:04 UTC on #minetest
00:07 hoodedice       (aka egomaniac)
00:09 sdzen           !seen Peacock
00:09 MinetestBot     sdzen: Sorry, I haven't seen peacock around.
00:09 sdzen           its case sensitive you nit
00:09 sdzen           :(
00:10 VanessaE        lol
00:11 hoodedice       =)
00:11 sdzen           muavebic is right there!
00:11 sdzen           PM him!
00:11 VanessaE        does anyone have access to some good, high-resolution imagery for cornstalks, wheat, etc. that I can use to add support for the default farming mod?
00:11 hoodedice       *Not necessary*
00:12 VanessaE        I can't find anything useful on the web (that has a permissive license)
00:12 hoodedice       I don't. I'm not a farmer
00:12 * sdzen         looks outside
00:12 sdzen           I know where I can take some
00:13 VanessaE        oh cool
00:14 VanessaE        tall grass too
00:14 hoodedice       Tall grass...
00:14 hoodedice       No.
00:14 VanessaE        next available pictures I can take won't be for a while, not sure when corn-growing season is here
00:14 hoodedice       =)
00:14 VanessaE        (I know where to find the stuff, just don't know if it's ready for pictures or not)
00:14 hoodedice       I can take pictures of corns.
00:14 hoodedice       (corn)
00:15 hoodedice       But you'll have to pay me for the 1500 km trip till there
00:15 sokomine        good question...pictures of it would be good. we can use some of diffrent stages of growing
00:15 hoodedice       (train)
00:15 sokomine        that far away?
00:15 VanessaE        hoodedice: hah!
00:15 VanessaE        :)
00:15 hoodedice       Oh, stages? 1500 x 4
00:15 hoodedice       Well, in my place, we mostly have rice
00:16 sokomine        that's ok as well. we do not have rice in mt yet
00:16 hoodedice       Again, that is 30 km from the Urban center
00:16 sokomine        the farming mod uses so much water there's no problem to grow rice with that as well
00:16 hoodedice       =)
00:16 sokomine        then build some good urban houses :-)
00:16 sokomine        (no way to escape :))
00:20 Jordach         VanessaE, google.
00:20 hoodedice       Jordach, licences
00:20 Jordach         as in the date for corn growing
00:20 VanessaE        Jordach: been there, done that, found nothing with a permissive license that was also high-resolution enough to use
00:20 VanessaE        oh
00:21 Jordach         VanessaE, IOU one apology
00:21 VanessaE        ?
00:21 Jordach         it is 1am here
00:21 hoodedice       ...?
00:21 * Jordach       is also building a city in default minetest_game
00:25 Jordach         VanessaE, i'm building a singleplayer creative city on my own
00:25 VanessaE        what was the apology for?
00:25 Jordach         <VanessaE> Jordach: been there, done that, found nothing with a permissive license that was also high-resolution enough to use
00:25 VanessaE        oh ok
00:25 Jordach         you failed to read my message
00:25 * VanessaE      <-- thickheaded
00:26 hoodedice       I hate living on the other side of the world
00:27 hoodedice       Everything is SO laggy
00:27 Jordach         because everything is upside down
00:27 hoodedice       -.-
00:28 Jordach         yup; im fucking off to bed now
00:28 * Jordach       is tired
00:28 hoodedice       How does one fuck off to bed?
01:09 PilzAdam        bye
02:16 Kacey           well... its like chernobyl all over again in my test world...
02:17 Kacey           i made technic neuclear reactors actually explode, with a good sized radius... bad idea
02:38 * sokomine      looks frightened outside and hopes that the lightning will not damage her machine
02:46 sokomine        if anyone is intrested in playing around a bit and creating some random villages (if you can call them villages....important structures like church, mill, inn etc are still missing!), you can find it at the usual place
02:46 sokomine        the mod needs a *flat* world
02:47 sokomine        kacey: really sounds like a bad idea :-) fortionately, they don't explode that often in rl
03:09 bas080          texture.png^[transformR270 is handy, is there also a flip function?
03:10 bas080          Why is it not in the lua_api.txt? or am I missing something?
03:19 kahrl           bas080: http://dev.minetest.net/texture
03:22 bas080          ty kahrl, i couldn't find it.
03:22 Niften          Hey guys
03:23 Niften          ^^
03:23 Niften          Anyone here?
03:25 kahrl           bas080: I just fixed a few things in that page, you might wanna reload
03:25 bas080          I was thinking FR? huh?
03:25 bas080          :P
03:27 sokomine        fr?
03:28 Niften          Hey everyone
03:28 Niften          Is anyone there?
03:28 Niften          :(
03:28 Niften          :(
03:31 bas080          french
04:22 VanessaE        zzz
05:55 * NekoGloop     noms bas080
05:56 VanessaE        heh
07:42 VanessaE        bbl
07:43 sfan5           !ban *!*@65.20.50.*
07:43 sfan5           MinetestBot!
07:43 MinetestBot     sfan5!
07:43 sfan5           MinetestBot!
07:43 MinetestBot     sfan5!
07:43 sfan5           !ban *!*@65.20.50.*
07:43 sfan5           !oo
07:43 sfan5           !op
07:44 sfan5           derp
08:00 thexyz          can we please not use opping bots unless services are down?
10:27 PenguinDad      hi Jordach
10:27 Calinou         hi
10:27 Jordach         PenguinDad, do you have that script that on join: hi <%N>
10:28 PenguinDad      Jordach: cool idea for a script but no
10:28 DS_             hi cayou
10:31 Jordach         OH JESUS
10:31 Jordach         Nokia is working on a battery charger that doesnt need mains or Green Alternatives
10:31 PenguinDad      OH SAM
10:33 Jordach         TIL Nokia innovates more than Apple
10:34 Jordach         HOLY SHIT! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1sbvb4xeeerd0tg/screenshot_356446763.png
10:59 sfan5           !op
10:59 sfan5           !deop
11:00 PenguinDad      Good MinetestBot
11:02 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:03 Peacock         guten morgen
11:03 Peacock         Peacock.coffee()
11:03 thexyz          Jordach: apple innowhat?
11:03 Peacock         hmm, english library missing :/ lol
11:03 thexyz          do they?
11:04 Jordach         thexyz, nokia crammed a 45 Megapixel Sensor into a phone
11:04 thexyz          useless
11:04 Peacock         wait, if i just got up, and pilzadam just got up, that means pilzadam must have been partying late last night :p
11:04 thexyz          but anyway, why did you think apple innovates?
11:04 Jordach         thexyz, i was taking the piss
11:04 Jordach         nokia does make awesome things
11:05 PenguinDad      Peacock: i think more programming than partying :P
11:05 Peacock         when you said apple i thought you meant (http://www.empireonline.com/images/promotions/movie-recipes/american-pie.jpg)
11:05 Kray            the amount of pixels doesn't matter when the optics are shit
11:05 Jordach         Kray, they also added custom hardware; carl-zeiss glass; ball bearings in place of springs
11:05 Jordach         some other shit
11:06 thexyz          that's a good thing
11:06 Peacock         who wouldn't prefer having balls to springs? :p
11:06 thexyz          now i can post photos of my food in GLORIOUS ULTRA HD
11:06 Peacock         lol
11:06 Jordach         xenon flash too
11:06 * Peacock       watches for thexyz on pinterest
11:06 Jordach         Nokia Pureview 808 btw (or Lumia 1020)
11:08 Peacock         dumbphones 4 the win
11:08 Calinou         lolnokia
11:08 Calinou         nokia is dead, they picked winblows phone, and fake their ads as hell
11:08 Jordach         Calinou, still doing a better job than Apple
11:08 Calinou         (they claimed some phone from them had exceptional video recording, it was fake)
11:08 thexyz          apple ain't dead though
11:08 Calinou         also, megapixels != quality
11:09 PilzAdam        phone war today?
11:09 Peacock         why not
11:09 Peacock         :o
11:09 thexyz          oh sure
11:09 Peacock         Peacock.popcorn()
11:09 PenguinDad      tommorow Font war :)
11:09 thexyz          your favorite mobile os sucks
11:09 Peacock         my last pay-as-go phone i registered it to Pablo Escobar :p
11:10 thexyz          that's all
11:10 Peacock         (he's been dead for some time) :P
11:10 Peacock         they all suck :P
11:10 thexyz          that's true
11:10 Peacock         you can do a thousand things with phones now, except take/hear phone calls properly
11:11 thexyz          any objections?
11:11 Peacock         motion passes
11:11 Jordach         http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/15/nokia_lumia_1020_technical_walkthrough/
11:12 Peacock         is the lua menu server tab bug fixed? i would recompile to get rid of that lol
11:12 sfan5           Peacock:delete()
11:12 Peacock         delete the lua menu? sounds like a good idea lol
11:13 sfan5           no, delete yourself
11:13 Peacock         you wish lol
11:13 sfan5           foo:bar() is the same as foo.bar(foo)
11:14 Peacock         seriously though, i start up minetest (on server tab), worlds not there, switch tabs and back, now they're there, can you reproduce?
11:17 Peacock         btw, Peacock:_on_destruct()  minetest.add_item('Peacock') end :p
11:18 Peacock         well, ill post a thread about the server tab and see who else is having it
11:22 nore            hi all
11:23 Peacock         howdy
11:26 MinetestBot     GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.registered_biomes 14eab22d81 2013-08-06T04:24:54-07:00 http://git.io/_6o2TA
11:26 Jordach         wait a second: both Calinou AND nore are french
11:26 Peacock         <--- as well
11:26 Calinou         Jordach: same ISP too :D
11:26 Jordach         BULLSHIT
11:26 Calinou         hi nore
11:26 Jordach         Peacock, that's bull
11:26 nore            hi
11:26 Jordach         you sound more obnoxious american than french
11:27 nore            Jordach:you're right
11:27 Calinou         nore doesn't sound frenchy at all, true
11:27 Calinou         :>
11:27 nore            Calinou: no I'm not at home... another ISP there
11:27 Peacock         like the brits' reputation is much better than the americans'... :P
11:27 nore            Calinou: why not?
11:28 Calinou         speaks decent english :P
11:28 Calinou         xchat :D
11:28 nore            because I read a lot of english
11:28 Peacock         i speak decent english since i spent ten years in Toronto lol
11:28 Calinou         same
11:28 nore            and a lot of computer science and mathematics articles
11:29 Jordach         we should actually have a mumble day where instead of IRC; we use mumble
11:29 nore            that do not exist in french
11:29 Peacock         ugh, voice chat lol
11:29 nore            I do not speak good english, only write and read... ;)
11:29 Peacock         why do i get the impression it would rapidly become a contest of who can speak the loudest lol
11:30 Jordach         Von Neumann Architecture anyone
11:30 Jordach         nore, i'm studying Computer Science
11:31 nore            Jordach, I will too
11:31 Jordach         Jordach.Cup_of_Tea(Drink, 40)
11:31 Jordach         40 replenishes thirst level by 40%
11:31 nore            Jordach, Jordach:Cup_of_Tea(Drink, 40)
11:31 nore            not .
11:32 nore            at least, if this is lua
11:32 * Jordach       is a python person
11:32 * Jordach       HATES Lua at times
11:32 nore            I make a lot of Python too
11:33 nore            one or two years ago, I even tried to make a clone of MC in Python
11:33 nore            using software rendering
11:33 PenguinDad      in python 0 is false in lua is it true
11:33 Peacock         i can write python if i have to, but i hate it lol
11:33 nore            was a bit slow with only 50 nodes...
11:34 nore            and of course, no texturing
11:34 Peacock         so much inconsistency between versions
11:34 sfan5           !meow
11:34 MinetestBot     meow
11:34 sfan5           MinetestBot: Y U so slow?
11:34 PilzAdam        sfan5, oh no....
11:34 sfan5           !meow
11:34 MinetestBot     meow
11:35 nore            who coded MinetestBot?
11:35 * sfan5         shows his hand
11:35 nore            how many lines?
11:35 Jordach         http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7365/n3p4.png
11:35 * Jordach       shits bricks
11:35 sfan5           nore: http://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
11:35 sfan5           Jordach: you shit brits?
11:36 Jordach         plol
11:36 Peacock         lol
11:36 sfan5           plol
11:36 nore            2000 lines?
11:36 Peacock         brits on benefits </rap>
11:36 nore            that's a lot
11:36 nore            Minetestbot!
11:36 nore            MinetestBot!
11:36 MinetestBot     nore!
11:37 nore            Is MinetestBot case-sensitive?
11:37 PenguinDad      !meow
11:37 PenguinDad      nore: i think so
11:37 sfan5           PenguinDad: !meow is only for me
11:38 Jordach         !meow
11:38 PenguinDad      why not for NekoGloop?
11:38 nore            sfan5: as is !op ?
11:38 Jordach         !op
11:38 Jordach         strange
11:38 sfan5           nore: no, only for me, only me
11:38 sfan5           Jordach: umm
11:38 Jordach         * unaffiliated/jordach :is now your hidden host (set by services.)
11:39 nore            !op sfan5
11:39 nore            does not work...
11:39 sfan5           nore: no, you have to _be_ sfan5 to use it
11:39 nore            sfan5: can you do !op someone ?
11:40 sfan5           Jordach: forgot the *!*@ when I updated the config
11:40 sfan5           nore: sure
11:40 sfan5           !op Jordach
11:40 * Jordach       hands MinetestBot several kittens
11:40 PilzAdam        nore, try /nick sfanfive
11:40 nore            and !deop MinetestBot
11:40 sfan5           sure
11:40 Peacock         looks like the speaking clock gave up :p
11:40 sfan5           !deop MinetestBot
11:40 sfan5           ^ nore
11:40 Jordach         !deop Jordach
11:40 Jordach         there we go
11:40 sfan5           !voice nore
11:41 thexyz          plz stahp
11:41 Jordach         sfan5, ninja'd
11:41 Peacock         lol
11:41 sfan5           Jordach: how did you know I was about to !deop you?
11:41 PilzAdam        sfan5 is abusing the bot, I vote for a ban
11:41 MinetestBot     I vote against a ban
11:41 Jordach         FYI; you can kick an entire channel
11:41 thexyz          how?
11:42 Jordach         even kickban
11:42 Jordach         Calinou did it in #minetest-mods
11:42 Peacock         im just curious why there are two bots?
11:42 MinetestBot     Oh, wait, I changed my mind: I vote for a ban, too
11:42 Jordach         one for backup
11:42 nore            sfan5: how do you control MinetestBot like that?
11:42 thexyz          what a shitbag
11:42 Peacock         cant you code one to do the functions of both?
11:42 thexyz          Calinou is
11:42 MinetestBot     I'm very confused today.... I vote against a ban
11:42 thexyz          wait, why'd he do that?
11:42 sfan5           nore: admin.py
11:42 Jordach         MinetestBot, KITTENS!
11:42 sfan5           !help
11:42 MinetestBot     https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
11:42 nore            Minetestbot!
11:42 sfan5           ^ nore
11:43 nore            MinetestBot!
11:43 MinetestBot     nore!
11:43 MinetestBot     Jordach, KITTENS!
11:43 Jordach         thexyz, because Calinou tried to remove chanserv protect
11:43 Jordach         meow
11:43 MinetestBot     Hmm... the cup of coffee just opened my eyes: I vote for a ban
11:43 Jordach         sfan5, slice PilzAdam's use of !msg off
11:43 MinetestBot     MinetestBot:remove("coffee")   I vote against a ban
11:43 Peacock         Peacock.send(MinetestBot,{coffee=true})
11:44 Calinou         thexyz: minetest-mods was pointless
11:44 * Calinou       continues healing the nearby heavy while being shot by 3 enemies at once
11:44 thexyz          Calinou: and?
11:44 * MinetestBot   shoots Calinou
11:44 thexyz          people were enjoying it
11:44 Jordach         i often hid in here when i wasnt ready for #minetest
11:45 PenguinDad      !b64e MinetestBot
11:45 MinetestBot     TWluZXRlc3RCb3Q=
11:45 Peacock         this is #minetest
11:45 sfan5           *sparta
11:45 Calinou         this is #spartaaaaaaa
11:45 Jordach         THIS! IS! MINETEST!
11:45 nore            !b64d TWluZXRlc3RCb3Q=
11:45 MinetestBot     MinetestBot
11:45 Jordach         !b64d MinetestBot!
11:45 MinetestBot     Jordach: Failed to handle data
11:46 Jordach         uh-oh
11:46 nore            !b64e MinetestBot!
11:46 MinetestBot     TWluZXRlc3RCb3Qh
11:46 nore            !b64d TWluZXRlc3RCb3Qh
11:46 MinetestBot     MinetestBot!
11:46 Jordach         loop dammit
11:46 nore            why doesn't it loop?
11:46 sfan5           it won't
11:46 PenguinDad      !b16e MinetestBot
11:46 MinetestBot     4D696E6574657374426F74
11:46 sfan5           It doesn't recieve its own messages
11:46 Peacock         does anyone remember when we used to talk to people on here? XD
11:46 sfan5           I did this with 2 bots......
11:46 sfan5           once
11:47 nore            ok, we need a second bot
11:47 Peacock         shadowbot?
11:47 * sfan5         has Ausmeribot
11:48 thexyz          because what could possibly go wrong
11:48 PenguinDad      MinetestBot: you really remember to etchreclolot
11:48 Peacock         bots kicking ppl and eachother for flooding? XD
11:48 sfan5           in case anyone wonders what AusmeriBot is http://redd.it/1ibu7f
11:48 thexyz          we need http://pisg.sourceforge.net/
11:49 Peacock         arent the chats logged already?
11:49 sfan5           yes,
11:49 nore            Peacock: yes, why?
11:49 sfan5           but there aren't any statistics
11:49 Peacock         so what doyou need pisg for?
11:50 Peacock         oh
11:50 Jordach         this channel once hit 102 users
11:50 nore            once?
11:50 Peacock         to collect stats on how much human input / bot input lol
11:50 nore            do you mean 102 connected at once?
11:51 Jordach         nore, to this channel yes
11:51 Peacock         22 of those were landmine accounts :p
11:51 PenguinDad      we really need etchreclolot :P
11:52 Peacock         !query etchreclolot
11:52 nore            hi MinetestBot
11:52 MinetestBot     sup nore
11:52 Jordach         Jordach.Change_Reactor_Core(Plutonium, Weapons_Grade)
11:52 nore            why sup and not hi?
11:52 Jordach         there we go; full power again
11:52 Peacock         its ebonics day on #minetest
11:52 Peacock         sup y'all
11:53 sfan5           thexyz: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest.html
11:53 sfan5           ^ Jordach,
11:53 nore            !wik needs to be updated, no?
11:53 MinetestBot     "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Needs_to_be_updated,_no?
11:54 Jordach         dammit, VanessaE has more lines than me; BRB
11:54 PenguinDad      !title
11:54 Jordach         for i < 100000000000000, print i
11:54 MinetestBot     PenguinDad: #minetest @ SomeIRCNet stats by MAINTAINER
11:54 sfan5           Is artur99 stupid or just asking too many questions? 33.6% lines contained a question!
11:54 sfan5           ^ haha
11:55 thexyz          sfan5: good
11:55 nore            it looks in wiki.minetest.com instead of wiki.minetest.net
11:55 Jordach         Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 9 times.
11:55 sfan5           Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 20 times.
11:55 thexyz          i love how PilzAdam spams his builds
11:55 * Jordach       slaps that IRC thing around the face
11:55 thexyz          > Most referenced URLs
11:55 thexyz          also >Most referenced nicks is wrong
11:55 Peacock         http://licensingbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Email-Marketing-SPAM-Law.jpg
11:55 sfan5           the most used word is german
11:55 sfan5           WTF
11:55 nore            !quit
11:56 thexyz          yeah, you fucked it up somehow
11:56 nore            MinetestBot:quit
11:56 sfan5           Peacock: spam with bacon
11:56 thexyz          we probably need a dedicated bot to log this
11:56 sfan5           nore: that command is only for the owner
11:56 thexyz          (irssi should work)
11:56 sfan5           ..
11:56 Peacock         irssi ... thats terminal irc ?
11:56 nore            yes, I saw, but tried nevertheless in case there was a bug...
11:56 PenguinDad      MinetestBot:part()
11:56 sfan5           thexyz: I gave -f xchat to it
11:56 nore            !c 1/0
11:56 MinetestBot     Sorry, no result.
11:56 nore            !c 1/1
11:56 MinetestBot       1
11:57 nore            !c 0**0
11:57 MinetestBot       1
11:57 Peacock         !c 1/0
11:57 MinetestBot     Sorry, no result.
11:57 Peacock         lol
11:57 thexyz          Peacock: yeah
11:57 sfan5           The loudest one was *buffextras, who yelled 100.0% of the time!
11:57 sfan5           ^ lawl
11:57 sfan5           znc plugin
11:57 nore            !c 100000!
11:57 MinetestBot     Sorry, no result.
11:57 thexyz          sfan5: >*** (660)
11:57 thexyz          not a good idea to use it with znc
11:57 nore            !c 10**(10**10)
11:57 MinetestBot     Sorry, no result.
11:57 Peacock         !c 1*pi
11:57 MinetestBot       3.14159265
11:57 Peacock         nice
11:58 PenguinDad      !c (42*-1)/(e^(i*Pi))
11:58 MinetestBot      42
11:58 Peacock         terminal irc wouldn't be a bad idea when im running minetestserver
11:58 nore            !c 1+1
11:58 MinetestBot       2
11:59 nore            !c e^(i*Pi/2)
11:59 MinetestBot     i
11:59 nore            !c e^(e^(e^(e^(e^10))))
11:59 MinetestBot     Sorry, no result.
11:59 nore            !c e^(e^(e^(e^(e^10)))))
11:59 MinetestBot     Sorry, no result.
12:00 PenguinDad      !c (42*1)/(e^(i*Pi))
12:00 MinetestBot     -42
12:00 thexyz          plz
12:00 thexyz          pm the fucking bot
12:01 PenguinDad      Good MinetestBot!
12:01 nore            thexyz: do you know why #856 isn't merged?
12:01 * Peacock       births #minetest-humans
12:02 thexyz          nore: nope
12:02 nore            and what do you think of #688?
12:03 thexyz          ask PilzAdam maybe
12:04 thexyz          minetest api wasn't designed properly
12:04 nore            what do you mean?
12:05 thexyz          sadly
12:05 thexyz          well just look at it
12:05 thexyz          half of functions are with_underscores half are withoutthem
12:05 thexyz          then, some return references, some return copies
12:05 nore            that we can't change
12:06 nore            and we could change so that they all return copies
12:06 Peacock         i think mt uses enough ram ty lol
12:06 thexyz          that's why i started http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress
12:07 Peacock         1gig ram running the server right now, only other thing open is xchat
12:07 Peacock         alot of old hardware only support so much ram to begin with
12:08 thexyz          minetest doesn't use much ram
12:08 thexyz          the bad thing is that it uses CPU
12:08 Calinou         anything uses CPU :P
12:08 Peacock         guess it depends which game your running (for ram)
12:09 thexyz          excessively
12:09 thexyz          Peacock: well, yeah, but still
12:09 thexyz          1gb of ram is nothing
12:09 Peacock         not crazy about CB's conky config, i used to get cpu usage per app on ab's conky
12:09 Peacock         though CPU bar says 72%
12:10 Calinou         even a S775 mobo can have 8GB of RAM, Peacock
12:10 Calinou         it's DDR2 so it is fairly expensive, but still
12:10 Peacock         for whatever reason, my p4 can only take 2 lol
12:10 thexyz          um yeah well
12:10 Peacock         though ive changed every other part, the only original part left is the casing, mobo and processor
12:10 Peacock         which ill eventually change lol
12:11 thexyz          what was the point of changing every other?
12:11 Peacock         psu : broke
12:11 Peacock         hard drive: died
12:11 thexyz          I doubt your mb supports ddr3 ram
12:11 Peacock         graphics: shit
12:11 Peacock         no it doesnt :(
12:11 thexyz          so what was the point of changing ram?
12:11 Peacock         i dont swap parts for fun dont worry :P they all broke/died/melted at one point or another
12:11 thexyz          oh
12:11 Peacock         uhm, cuz it came with half a gig
12:12 Peacock         you cant even run most linuses on 500mb of ram anymore lol
12:12 Peacock         p4 is seven years old ;P
12:13 Peacock         the power button is completely hopeless lol
12:13 Peacock         gonna try and rig an old doorbell or something to it XD
12:21 Peacock         87 autobans lol took a day and a half to beat the 76 i had when i lost the map
12:22 Calinou         what's your server
12:22 Peacock         startest
12:23 Peacock         13 mods lol
12:23 Peacock         and of those 87, i got maybe 4 serious builders
12:24 Peacock         might be more efficient to code mobs that can build lol
12:26 sfan5           !op
12:26 iqualfragile    !seen jeija
12:26 MinetestBot     iqualfragile: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
12:26 sfan5           !deop
12:28 Peacock         coulda sworn i saw jeija on the chat a few days ago
12:28 Peacock         !seen Jeija
12:29 MinetestBot     Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
12:29 Peacock         uppercase, not lower :p
12:29 iqualfragile    what happened to him anyways?
12:29 iqualfragile    he just disappeared a while ago
12:29 Peacock         thats what were all trying to figure out lol
12:30 Peacock         he's german right? did he disappear around the time of the flooding?
12:30 PenguinDad      Peacock: he's german
12:31 Peacock         maybe he was in the area of the flood then
12:31 Peacock         unless he got in a fight with someone and no one's talking
12:32 Peacock         last contrib June 19th
12:33 Peacock         or he moved on to this? https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet
12:35 PenguinDad      last post at july 3rd
12:35 Peacock         forum post?
12:35 PenguinDad      yes forum
12:35 PilzAdam        "Another old yeller was sfan5, who shouted 14.7% of the time!" <- thats probably the crevis rage
12:36 thexyz          Peacock: bp is dead
12:36 Peacock         his bp or the real bp?
12:36 Peacock         they both dont seem to have much momentum
12:37 thexyz          both
12:37 Peacock         doesnt matter, the wife won't let me touch her worlds anymore lol
12:39 Peacock         i really do need a worldeditor to get something looking nice
12:39 iqualfragile    na, nah, he disappeared before the flooding
12:40 Peacock         well if theres' no other reason why he might be gone, maybe he's just on IRL vacation
12:41 Peacock         working holidays can go on for months
12:44 iqualfragile    nope
12:44 iqualfragile    he is young
12:44 Peacock         parental ban?
12:44 iqualfragile    for monts?
12:44 iqualfragile    and he is back from time to time
12:44 Peacock         well it was the end of the school year, maybe they felt his grades were suffering because of MT? (hapened to jojoa)
12:44 iqualfragile    at least there are some commits from time to time
12:45 Peacock         well the last one seems to date back to June
12:45 iqualfragile    yes, but he disappeared like 3 months ago
12:46 Peacock         i can only guess, someone should ask him next time he pops on irc briefly
12:46 iqualfragile    he did not pop up, he just commited something from time to time
12:46 Peacock         well i coulda sworn someone was using some variant of his name on here within the last week :/
12:47 PilzAdam        Peacock, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104131#p104131 <- you really ask a _core dev_ what version he uses?
12:47 Peacock         i compiled yesterday's git
12:47 Peacock         worlds not showing up
12:47 Peacock         i have no idea when you compiled yours, but if its newer than mine, then ill give that a shot before complaining more about the problem, logical
12:49 Peacock         unless youd rather people not report bugs and consequently not bother to test new features (which some devs are complaining about)
12:49 PenguinDad      Peacock: compiled the same time and i reproduce it too
12:49 PilzAdam        the last update of the menu was on Aug 4, the last update to the server tab was on Jul 22
12:49 PenguinDad      *can't
12:50 Peacock         so why does it only happen on mine? DRUN_IN_PLACE =1 ?
12:51 PilzAdam        oh, wait, I see the problem
12:51 Peacock         ok so im not (completely) insane :p
12:51 PilzAdam        the world is filtered by the game selected in the singleplayer tab
12:51 PilzAdam        *worldlist
12:51 PilzAdam        if you click on it once then it should show all worlds again
12:52 Peacock         well i only have 1 world
12:52 Peacock         so thats the one thats always highlighted
12:52 PenguinDad      PilzAdam: not for me
12:57 PilzAdam        Peacock, try this: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/6164236
12:58 Peacock         hmm, is it pulled or do i need to do some funky githubbery to compile it?
12:58 PilzAdam        you just apply that patch
12:58 PilzAdam        no need to compile since its Lua
12:59 Peacock         oh lua ok
12:59 Peacock         (not enough coffee) lol
13:00 PilzAdam        do you know how to apply a patch?
13:00 Peacock         nope.avi, loaded mainmenu in gedit
13:01 Peacock         looking for the lines lol
13:01 Peacock         found it
13:01 PenguinDad      Peacock: git has a function for that but i don't know this function
13:02 PilzAdam        PenguinDad, you put that diff into a file (e.g. patch1.diff) and then  git apply patch1.diff
13:02 Peacock         it worked, world appears on serverlist :-)
13:03 Peacock         *moderator: plz close https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6822
13:03 PenguinDad      PilzAdam: i only forgot the name
13:04 Jordach         Peacock, closed
13:04 Peacock         ty
13:04 Jordach         should i [Solved] it?
13:06 PilzAdam        why do people close their topics if they are solved?
13:06 Peacock         if the fix is pushed yeah :-)
13:06 PilzAdam        there is no reason to do that
13:06 PilzAdam        you block others from posting further questions on that topic
13:06 Peacock         well maybe not since the thread itself doesn't contain the solution
13:06 Peacock         but if its fixed who else would have anything to say on it?
13:07 sfan5           !re 20:43:01 *	kitten has kicked dog from #minetest (meow)`(\d+):(\d+):\d+ \*\s+(\S+) (\S+)*
13:07 MinetestBot     false
13:07 PilzAdam        Peacock, you never know that
13:07 Peacock         youd basically end up telling people to update anyways
13:07 Peacock         hm,well keep it open if you want then
13:08 PilzAdam        I mean you can close it later on if it turns out that people post stupid things
13:08 * Jordach       reopens
13:08 PilzAdam        but for now it should stay open
13:08 * Jordach       sighs
13:08 PilzAdam        ^ Jordach
13:08 thexyz          PilzAdam: create new topic if you have additional questions
13:08 Peacock         thats what i figured would end up happening lol
13:08 Jordach         PilzAdam, just did
13:08 thexyz          that's how SO works
13:08 Peacock         (people complaining without checking if theres a fix)
13:08 PilzAdam        thexyz, then it gets closed for double-opening a topic
13:09 Peacock         perhaps we could use our own stackexchange
13:09 PilzAdam        many topics on the same topic are not good
13:09 thexyz          PilzAdam: yeah, if the question is exactly the same
13:09 thexyz          Peacock: we aren't that popular =(
13:10 thexyz          so there's no reason
13:10 thexyz          also, their karma system a shit
13:10 Peacock         true, still i like the concept of the question-er voting/selecting the best answer
13:10 Peacock         it seems to encourage people being more helpful in answering
13:11 Peacock         i always check stackexchange before say, lua manuals/pdfs/etc
13:11 thexyz          yeah, it's good when there are people who answer and there are people who ask [good questions]
13:12 thexyz          I do too, stackoverflow usually comes first in google results
13:12 Peacock         first hits at my end too
13:13 Peacock         going to the lua site you get a generalized page on the entire library lol
13:13 Peacock         which tells you what functions are available but not exactly how to solve your particular problem/challenge
13:13 sfan5           !re 13:50:49 *	arsdragonfly (~arsdragon@222.69.173.188) has joined #minetest`(\d+):(\d+):\d+ \*\s+(\S+)(\s\S+)*
13:13 MinetestBot     false
13:13 thexyz          wut
13:14 PilzAdam        sfan5, /msg
13:14 thexyz          sfan5: can you PM the fucking bot?
13:14 thexyz          please
13:14 thexyz          do that
13:14 sfan5           PilzAdam: was about to do that
13:14 thexyz          that's what you always say
13:15 Peacock         for the glasslike drawtype/inventory cube rendering, i should use inventory_image in the meantime?
13:15 PilzAdam        Peacock, yep, see default:glass
13:18 Peacock         that fixed it for nodes, oddly enough it renders properly on nodeboxes (glass slabs)
13:27 thexyz          as for stackexchange alternative, we can setup askbot
13:28 Jordach         Peacock, make a single nodebox that is a cube
13:28 Jordach         problem solved
13:30 PenguinDad      Jordach: but then you don't have smooth lighting
13:30 Jordach         smooth lighting makes the game less voxel
13:30 * Jordach       prefers non smooth cubic lighting
13:31 Jordach         PilzAdam, i have a new suggestion for the modding API; make light_source = 99 the maximum light
13:31 Jordach         because torches are NEVER enough
13:31 Calinou         impossible
13:31 Calinou         there are only 16 light levels
13:31 PilzAdam        Jordach, feel free to rewrite the complete lightsystem in Minetest
13:31 PilzAdam        I wont
13:31 Jordach         Calinou, 99/16
13:32 Jordach         that's how lighting levels could be divided
13:34 Jordach         common sense states that if it works: try and get it to work FOR YOU, only re-write something IF IT NEEDS doing.
13:35 Calinou         --nouveau developers on reclocking
13:37 urban           Jordach you could make a plugin that add multiple light sources when you place a block
13:37 Jordach         urban, we dont have plugins
13:37 Jordach         we aren't bukkit
13:37 Jordach         nor are we minecraft
13:37 urban           sorry, mods
13:37 Calinou         they are called mods
13:37 Jordach         Calinou, ninja'd
13:38 Calinou         but you can do the same thing as plugins (just add new commands and stuff like that)
13:38 thexyz          wow so much hate just because urban called mods plugins
13:38 Calinou         hate? not from me
13:38 Jordach         thexyz, unwitting users might ask for the wrong thing
13:39 Jordach         (most windows users dont even read installers; including the crapware they also install.)
13:40 thexyz          you could've just said "[useful content], also those things are named mods, not plugins"
13:41 thexyz          instaned you went with "[useless content]\n[useless content]\n[useless content]"
13:41 Jordach         thexyz, i'm a long winded person
13:41 Jordach         i give Benefit of the Doubt
13:42 Jordach         if they get something wrong, i'll poke them, then poke again, then spit it
13:43 Jordach         just don't spoonfeed the bovine users (eg, in some cases - artur99)
13:44 sfan5           can we use ilbot logs with pisg?
13:45 Jordach         dunno, google it?
13:46 Jordach         or just read the man pages
13:46 Peacock         i solved the torch lighting problem a long time ago with invisible light blocks
13:46 urban           That's what I suggested :p
13:47 Jordach         holy shit; i swear the most in here compared to anyone else and yet the thing sfan5 is doing hasnt picked my swearing up
13:47 Jordach         not even once.
13:47 Peacock         i too, didn't find having 20 torches to light a room terribly attractive lol
13:47 Jordach         plol
13:49 Peacock         though im surprised with so many mods doing the same things, there are very few effective lighting mods
13:49 Jordach         sfan5, tell that data finding piece of crap to find my swears
13:49 Jordach         Peacock, //p set //set (lighting node here)
13:49 Peacock         im not talking about filling an area with light with no apparent source
13:50 Jordach         go on
13:50 Peacock         you make your light fixtures add the nodes
13:50 Peacock         either filling a radius, or cubic area, or directional
13:51 thexyz          sfan5: no, apparently
13:51 Jordach         !xkcd competing standards
13:51 Jordach         !g xkcd competing standards
13:51 MinetestBot     Jordach: http://xkcd.com/927/
13:51 Jordach         better
13:51 Peacock         saw that one :P twice on here too
13:52 Peacock         its a linux forums favorite :p
14:07 * Jordach       sets the channel radio to shuffle
14:07 Jordach         huh - we got smooth jazz
14:07 * MinetestBot   puts a kitten on the channel radio
14:31 BlockMen        hi everyone
14:40 Jordach         hey BlockMen you hand is awesome
14:40 Jordach         your*
14:41 BlockMen        Jordach, thanks. it looks nearly as in mc now^^
15:04 Jordach         <jenni> Don't worry, that value is only wrong half of the time.
15:09 Jordach         PilzAdam,
15:09 Jordach         <jenni> It's not a code problem - our users need more training.
15:09 PenguinDad      ^_^
15:10 Peacock         where you pasting from?
15:10 Jordach         #defocus-uncensored
15:10 Jordach         jenni has a .excuse command
15:14 bas080          Ich  bin learning the German, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2008062013%20-%2005%3A12%3A56%20PM.png.
15:14 Peacock         you'll find bin under /usr/share
15:14 PilzAdam        bas080, nice
15:15 bas080          I haven't learned the word "learning" yet. I guess it's something like "leren"
15:15 Peacock         bas when youre done could you come on my server and translate the rules? :-)
15:15 PenguinDad      bas080: lernen
15:15 bas080          ok, Peacock, nein nein nein!
15:15 bas080          :P
15:16 Peacock         lol
15:16 Jordach         bas080, looks like youre doing it 999 times then
15:16 Peacock         google translate made some pretty shitty translations lol
15:16 Peacock         you can translate words but not intent
15:16 Peacock         *it
15:19 MinetestBot     GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Rename LagPool's member variables to avoid MSVC freaking up due to it's #define max 53bf62bb83 2013-08-06T08:17:58-07:00 http://git.io/uzfPOw
15:19 MinetestBot     GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Clean up server's log messages and give a better error to client when its player is in use 61f240946a 2013-08-06T08:13:11-07:00 http://git.io/3BKObA
15:22 PenguinDad      moin arsdragonfly
15:23 PenguinDad      *hello
15:24 Nifticus        hi
15:24 sokomine        hi
15:25 Nifticus        Yay someone talks to meee
15:25 Jordach         Nifticus, IRC is truly real time, but you wont always recieve a automatic responce, we aren't robots!
15:26 MinetestBot     I am
15:26 Jordach         haha MinetestBot
15:27 Nifticus        JJordach <3
15:27 Nifticus        Anyone know how to compile minetest-master for Windows?
15:27 Nifticus        Most tutorials don't work for me D;
15:28 Peacock         1) install linux 2) compile mintest 3) PROFIT
15:28 Peacock         j/k :P
15:28 Nifticus        xD
15:28 Nifticus        The GNU license says you can't profit off of Minetest. ^^
15:28 Peacock         well you could technically come up with a box design and sell hard copies
15:29 Peacock         you wouldn't be selling the source
15:29 PilzAdam        Nifticus, you can sell it
15:29 Nifticus        Pilz. :o
15:29 PilzAdam        but you always have to provide the sourcecode and allow re-sharing
15:29 Nifticus        Ah.
15:29 Peacock         ive thought about it lol i often have guests who ask just what the hell im building/playing lol
15:29 Nifticus        True, dat. ^^
15:30 Nifticus        Pilz.
15:30 Nifticus        My friend is building a game off of the Minetest source.
15:30 Nifticus        Does Celeron have the power to shut it down?
15:30 Calinou         no
15:30 Peacock         not really
15:30 Nifticus        Well, then...
15:30 Calinou         minetest is FOSS
15:30 Nifticus        Mmm.
15:30 Peacock         and even if one could, you'd still have to hire a lawyer ($$$)
15:30 Nifticus        True.
15:30 Calinou         if you don't edit source, it is suggested you release the game
15:31 Calinou         and not the engine with
15:31 NekoGloop       instead of claiming the whole thing?
15:31 Nifticus        4.8 is available on the minetest-master.
15:31 Nifticus        Compile it and you get a pre-release.
15:31 Nifticus        ^^
15:31 Peacock         ideally if your going to sell a game youll want to provide a complete experience (with documentation and an installer)
15:32 NekoGloop       What time machine are you using?
15:32 Nifticus        They added texture-pack selection.
15:32 Nifticus        Saw it in the code.
15:32 Nifticus        ^^
15:32 Nifticus        None.
15:32 Nifticus        ^^
15:32 Nifticus        Go to Github and download the minetest-master.
15:33 Nifticus        If you compile it you get a buggy version of 4.8.
15:33 Peacock         theres also minetest-slave, and minetest-dominatrix to check out :p
15:33 Nifticus        I can read you the code.
15:33 NekoGloop       4.8 doesn't exist
15:33 Nifticus        if tabbuilder.current_tab == "texture_packs" then
15:33 PenguinDad      WTF you're using 4.8?
15:33 Nifticus        If you compile 4.8's source, you get 4.8.
15:34 Nifticus        <3
15:34 Peacock         omg, instead of having this argument a thousand times, just drop the leading zero and call it a beta
15:34 Nifticus        4.8 beta then. <3
15:34 NekoGloop       4.8 DOESN'T EXIST
15:34 Peacock         wasnt referring to you :p
15:34 Nifticus        It does.
15:34 NekoGloop       IT IS 0.4.8 AND YOU WILL CALL IT THAT
15:34 Nifticus        Woah.
15:34 Peacock         yeah theyre pretty anal about it
15:34 Jordach         Nifticus, reminder; i know of crevis
15:35 NekoGloop       I'm anal about assholes who don't listen
15:35 Nifticus        Aye Jordach.
15:35 Nifticus        Is it allowed?
15:35 PenguinDad      nope
15:35 Nifticus        Neko, you need to calm down.
15:35 Nifticus        Please.
15:35 Peacock         and thats how you (anyone) drive normal (everyone else) people away :p
15:35 Jordach         this is like asking a new guy in law how to solve the ultimate licensing issue
15:35 Nifticus        xD
15:35 Jordach         !op
15:35 Jordach         NekoGloop, careful now
15:36 Jordach         and i nearly choked on a fucking polo mint
15:36 Nifticus        <3
15:36 NekoGloop       Sure, protect the asshole.
15:36 Peacock         every. single. time. someone forgets the leading zero, some of you ppl go nuts
15:37 Peacock         theres a technique for the manual release of such frustrations :p
15:37 Jordach         Nifticus, tell your guys an easier way to do your game it to create a game mode: (which is a game folder packed full of mods)
15:37 Jordach         is*
15:37 Nifticus        I know.
15:37 Nifticus        Preston.
15:37 Nifticus        Is being a bitch.
15:37 MinetestBot     GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix worldlist in servertab being filtered by selected game ba65e2ae6c 2013-08-06T08:28:51-07:00 http://git.io/RuS0QA
15:37 Nifticus        I didn't do it.
15:37 PilzAdam        ^ Peacock
15:37 Nifticus        He just downloads mods and puts them in.
15:38 Nifticus        I'm telling him to stop...
15:38 Nifticus        He just won't listen.
15:38 Peacock         sweet thanks PilzAdam
15:38 Nifticus        >.>
15:38 Jordach         i can give you one bit of credit: at least you know how to install mods
15:39 Nifticus        I know how to do it originally; they just install mods.
15:39 Nifticus        Honestly.
15:39 Nifticus        And here's the best part: he demands pay.
15:39 Jordach         dumbasses will be dumbasses
15:40 Peacock         who demands pay?
15:40 Nifticus        Mmhmm.
15:40 Nifticus        Preston.
15:40 Jordach         simple fact of the universe
15:40 Peacock         who's preston? lol
15:40 Nifticus        "Modder" for crevis.
15:40 Peacock         ah well, if he makes money more power to him
15:40 PilzAdam        !deop Jordach
15:40 Nifticus        xD
15:40 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, feel free to rage
15:41 Nifticus        I love when NekoGloop rages. ^^
15:41 NekoGloop       Oh look, Pilz is being halfway intelligent now
15:41 Peacock         windows
15:41 PilzAdam        Nifticus, I really suggest you (or your friend or whatever) to release crevis as a game for the minetest engine
15:41 * Peacock       runs away
15:41 PilzAdam        since that is exactly what it is
15:41 Nifticus        I know.
15:41 Nifticus        But I have someone to compile now.
15:41 Nifticus        So I can modify the core source
15:42 Jordach         Nifticus, it's not like PilzAdam, BlockMen, sfan5 or Fess can compile for you
15:42 Nifticus        I know.
15:42 * Jordach       knows sfan5 does custom builds
15:42 Nifticus        I'm having someone else. ^^
15:42 Nifticus        Except I have a fucking Windows computer.
15:42 Nifticus        xD
15:42 Jordach         ...aaaaaannndd it still fucking hurts
15:42 Peacock         are you compiling for windows or linuses?
15:42 Nifticus        Holly shit he's gone mad.
15:43 Nifticus        Windows
15:43 Nifticus        I failed every time. xD
15:43 PenguinDad      Peacock: why are saying my name?
15:43 Peacock         where did i do that?
15:43 sfan5           soooo I'm not there for a min and all people argue
15:43 PenguinDad      linuses
15:43 Nifticus        We aren't arguing we're loving <3
15:44 sfan5           no you are not!
15:44 Nifticus        hehe
15:44 PilzAdam        Nifticus, oh, btw, you are allowed to sell Minetest (which is ridiculous since you can get it for free, but you cant at least get sued for that), but you are not allowed to sell the Misa Texture pack
15:44 PilzAdam        you can be sued for that
15:44 Nifticus        I'm not going to sell it Pilz.
15:44 sfan5           "get the pre-release!Pay $5 to Crevis to pre-order the latest version of Crevis. You will recieve an email from us with a download."
15:44 sfan5           yeah sure
15:44 Jordach         Nifticus wants to be open
15:44 Peacock         sueing requires paying a lawyer and being damn sure the person at the other end has seizable income/assets
15:44 Jordach         the others down
15:44 Jordach         dont*
15:44 Nifticus        That wasn't me Sfan.
15:45 Nifticus        Preston, again...
15:45 sfan5           then tell him..
15:45 Peacock         most of the people here have nothing to seize
15:45 Nifticus        He never listens.
15:45 Nifticus        Ever.
15:45 Nifticus        Here's the best part: he wants pay. For MODDING.
15:46 Peacock         well i think marktraceur once offered to do mods for cash
15:46 sfan5           hm
15:46 Peacock         so its not unheard of
15:46 Peacock         hell pay me and ill write all the opensauce mods you want lol
15:46 Nifticus        xD
15:46 Peacock         otherwise i earn more making shitty websites
15:46 sfan5           s/shitty/kitten/
15:46 Nifticus        I can't fire him because he has some of my passwords...
15:46 NekoGloop       meow
15:47 Nifticus        I plan to change them then fire him if he doesn't act up.
15:47 Peacock         you cant change them?
15:47 sfan5           Nifticus: change the passwords
15:47 Nifticus        I will.
15:47 Nifticus        I'm surprised no one hacked into my account; my password is so basic xD
15:47 Nifticus        I have to change them anyway.
15:48 Nifticus        If I fire him I lose half the developing team.
15:48 Nifticus        Hold on; deleting the pay 5$ crap.
15:48 Nifticus        Deleted.
15:48 Nifticus        :D
15:48 sfan5           you can't sell the misa texture pack anyway
15:48 Nifticus        I know.
15:49 Nifticus        I love MobF
15:49 Nifticus        :D
15:49 Nifticus        Let me get you guys some quotes from Skye.
15:49 PenguinDad      I hate MobF
15:49 Nifticus        *Skype
15:49 sfan5           Nifticus: pastebin
15:49 sfan5           please
15:50 Nifticus        s
15:50 Nifticus        Oops.
15:50 Nifticus        Quote from Preston: "Nobody codes anymore"
15:50 Nifticus        "Dude, you are so in the past"
15:50 sfan5           pastebin!
15:50 Nifticus        Pastebin?
15:50 Jordach         http://pastebin.com
15:50 MinetestBot     GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for different drowning damage and allow drowning in other nodetypes 7b13d119ed 2013-08-06T08:49:39-07:00 http://git.io/Xgrz7w
15:50 sfan5           ^
15:50 Calinou         skype is evil
15:51 sfan5           Calinou: you mean microshit is evil?
15:51 Calinou         both
15:51 Peacock         speaking of microhit, heard of those high-tech luxury japanese toilets that can be hacked? apparently its real easy to clog it up with a kernel dump
15:52 Nifticus        xD
15:53 Nifticus        *microshit <3
15:53 Nifticus        lol
15:53 Peacock         and the arab version, microshiite
15:53 sfan5           Peacock: /r/netsec seems it first
15:53 Nifticus        :D
15:53 sfan5           *sees
15:55 MinetestBot     GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update drowning fa9424c31b 2013-08-01T23:12:20-07:00 http://git.io/BimEpQ
15:55 sfan5           many commits today
15:56 Peacock         goooooood </darth_sidious>
15:56 Nifticus        Preston won't even pick up the damn Skype call.
15:56 Nifticus        He's online too :I
15:57 sfan5           the name "Preston" reminds me of something...
15:57 Nifticus        prestotron?
15:57 sfan5           no
15:57 Nifticus        :p
15:57 sfan5           well, yes that too
15:57 Nifticus        Peacock's cock?
15:57 Nifticus        <3
15:57 Jordach         don't land in the GOO! http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/296/chell.medium.png
15:58 PilzAdam        Nifticus, keep this channel familiy safe
15:58 Nifticus        xD
15:58 sfan5           !op
15:58 Jordach         PilzAdam, hasnt stopped me
15:58 Peacock         especially with jordach's mention of goo lol
15:58 MinetestBot     GIT: HybridDog commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix typo in flower generation 9df85d7752 2013-08-06T08:56:51-07:00 http://git.io/DUJoBg
15:58 * sfan5         goes in op position
15:58 PilzAdam        sfan5, wut?
15:58 sfan5           wait..
15:58 Peacock         lol
15:59 Peacock         well, that escalated/degenerated quickly lol
15:59 sfan5           !deop
15:59 Jordach         !voice no-one
15:59 Jordach         </troll>
15:59 PenguinDad      That he uses Preston so often remembers me to FreedroidRPG
15:59 Nifticus        I saw Jordach's render of MinetestBot :D
15:59 Peacock         the only preston i know is Preston Manning of the Refooooooorm party lol
16:00 MinetestBot     Nifticus: It wasn't me
16:00 Nifticus        :o
16:00 Nifticus        Well, Electroware RI is making xbox.
16:00 sfan5           you are making xbox?
16:01 Jordach         PilzAdam, stop controlling MinetestBot
16:01 PenguinDad      kill them they are from microsoft :D
16:02 Nifticus        Yes @Sfan5
16:02 sfan5           Nifticus: what are you making on xbox?
16:02 Nifticus        Minetest/crevis
16:02 sfan5           how far have you got yet?
16:03 PenguinDad      o_O
16:03 Nifticus        I'm not. Electroware RI is.
16:03 Nifticus        They're making controls atm.
16:03 Nifticus        I'm working on PC version.
16:03 Nifticus        And all you devs for Minetest out there:
16:03 Nifticus        I will never, ever use an unmodified mod for Crevis.
16:03 sfan5           are you u
16:03 sfan5           *sure?
16:03 Nifticus        Yes.
16:04 Nifticus        Preston downloaded all the mods.
16:04 Nifticus        TBO
16:04 Nifticus        *TBH
16:04 PenguinDad      Nifticus: you really remember me to the COBAL programmer from FreedroidRPG
16:05 Nifticus        No...
16:05 sfan5           Nifticus: and why is mesecons named b"luestone"
16:05 Nifticus        Sfan5: Preston
16:05 sfan5           the textures are still yellow
16:05 Nifticus        At first he tricked me into thinking HE made it.
16:05 Nifticus        I know...
16:05 Nifticus        I'm deleting them.
16:05 Nifticus        Preston is such a bitch D;
16:06 Jordach         the only person from crevis im giving reprieve from my jokes is Nifticus
16:06 Nifticus        :o
16:06 Nifticus        Guys, I'm not like Preston.
16:06 Nifticus        I didn't really want to switch to Minetest anyway; I used to use something else but...
16:06 Nifticus        The 2.0 update was coming
16:06 Jordach         that Idiot*
16:07 Nifticus        We needed to add crafting, inventory...
16:07 Nifticus        So we switched to Minetest temporarily
16:07 sfan5           temporarily?
16:07 Nifticus        Yes.
16:07 Calinou         you are free to use minetest
16:07 Nifticus        Preston convinved me to use it
16:07 Calinou         it is pointless to create your own engine
16:07 Nifticus        permanently
16:07 Nifticus        I knw Calinou.
16:07 Nifticus        :)
16:08 Nifticus        I had created my own in another lnaguage.
16:08 Nifticus        *language
16:08 Jordach         i imagine Preston to be this HUGE fat GUY
16:08 Nifticus        Actually he's a skinny 13 year old that looks like a monkey. :o
16:08 Nifticus        xD
16:08 Jordach         we were right about the 12 year olds
16:08 sfan5           s/we/you/
16:08 Nifticus        Me=14
16:08 * sdzen         high fives jordach
16:09 Nifticus        But you devs out there...
16:09 PilzAdam        Nifticus, what language?
16:09 Nifticus        It's embarrasing Pilz.
16:09 Nifticus        :o
16:09 sdzen           basic?
16:09 Calinou         lol "Pilz"
16:09 sdzen           :P
16:09 Calinou         java?
16:09 hdastwb         Python?
16:09 Nifticus        No.
16:10 Nifticus        I would never use Java.
16:10 sdzen           fortran
16:10 Jordach         http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-08-05#i_3240455
16:10 Nifticus        GML.
16:10 Nifticus        :o
16:10 Jordach         Nifticus, load that link (that was last night)
16:10 sfan5           lawl GML
16:10 sfan5           Jordach: oh...
16:10 * sdzen         passes out laughing
16:10 Jordach         see; that's why i said we
16:10 * sfan5         hides
16:10 sdzen           isnt GML made for 2 dimensions?
16:10 Jordach         sdzen, i can do 3d as well
16:11 Nifticus        So funny...
16:11 Nifticus        Their nicknames.
16:11 Nifticus        Are so fucking stupid.
16:11 Nifticus        xD
16:11 Jordach         i still win on speed; http://www.speedtest.net/result/2568476190.png
16:11 Calinou         whose nicknames?
16:11 Nifticus        CaptionZombies12
16:11 Calinou         seems legit Jordach
16:11 Nifticus        xD
16:11 sfan5           Calinou: see link
16:11 Jordach         Nifticus, least yours is original
16:11 Nifticus        <3
16:11 Nifticus        I hate names with numbers.
16:11 Nifticus        I just hate them.
16:11 Nifticus        Why do people do that?
16:11 * Jordach       shares that bug
16:11 Nifticus        I don't fucking know...
16:12 Nifticus        They just randomly type numbers into their account?
16:12 PenguinDad      Nifticus: Leetspeak?
16:12 Guest0293       this is what pisses me off :)
16:12 Peacock         i ban most names with numbers lol
16:13 Nifticus        And guys
16:13 Peacock         there arent enough minetest players to warrant adding numbers to a name lol
16:13 Nifticus        I never wanted Crevis to be a minetest ripoff...
16:13 Nifticus        Preston made it that.
16:13 Nifticus        I'm sincere
16:13 Jordach         if there's a control freak; terminate or cut it off (from some form of power)
16:13 sfan5           its not a minetest ripoff
16:13 sfan5           but...
16:14 Nifticus        Sfan.
16:14 Nifticus        I understand what you are saying.
16:14 sfan5           it just looks like you did 1% work and called it a new game
16:14 Nifticus        I sincerely didn't mean it to be that
16:14 Nifticus        I know...
16:14 Nifticus        Because of PRESTON.
16:14 Nifticus        He told me the release was fine
16:14 sfan5           also... "Crevis uses the Minetest engine for a basic structure of the game. "
16:14 PilzAdam        Nifticus, I dont know what you wanted it to be, or who that "preston" guy is; I just see what it currently is
16:14 Nifticus        Again, Preston...
16:15 sfan5           ^ I didn't know a basic structure was the complete engine
16:15 Nifticus        I'm sorry guys... but I promise you one thing.
16:15 Calinou         "ripoff" doesn't mean anything, anyway
16:15 Nifticus        I will do my best to revoke Preston's actions.
16:15 Calinou         Nifticus: if you don't edit the engine, it is _suggested_ you distribute it as a game.
16:15 PilzAdam        Nifticus, stop talking and change things
16:15 Nifticus        I am <3
16:16 Nifticus        Change the engine?
16:16 Nifticus        The thing coded in c++
16:16 Nifticus        ?
16:16 Calinou         yes
16:16 sfan5           yes
16:16 Jordach         give Nifticus Benefit of the Doubt
16:16 sdzen           </3 not untill we see definitive proof of such changes
16:16 Nifticus        But it's already being compiled?
16:17 Nifticus        Alright.
16:17 Nifticus        I'll change it.
16:17 Nifticus        And I hope you all realize that I'm not like preston.
16:17 Peacock         im beginning to wonder if you are him lol
16:18 Peacock         after mentioning his name 146 times :p
16:18 PenguinDad      Peacock: Nifticus: you really remember me to the COBAL programmer from FreedroidRPG
16:18 Peacock         unfamiliar with cobal or freedroidrpg
16:18 sdzen           the grammar, it burns!
16:19 leo_rockway     freedroidrpg is nat
16:19 MinetestBot     GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix full crack texture being shown when releasing dig button 7fbc8152bf 2013-08-06T09:15:40-07:00 http://git.io/2y1Mxg
16:19 leo_rockway     or even neat
16:19 leo_rockway     hello, everyone
16:19 * Jordach       fucks off to play Halo 4 CTF
16:20 Nifticus        Hold on.
16:20 Nifticus        I removed the 5$ thing.
16:20 Nifticus        Which means we aren't illegal now?
16:20 Nifticus        :D
16:20 * Jordach       probably would go with almost
16:20 Calinou         you could sell it for $5 if you didn't use misa pack
16:20 Nifticus        Wait...
16:20 Nifticus        Misa pack?
16:21 sfan5           the texurepack
16:21 sdzen           dude your website lists like 80 artists
16:21 sfan5           also you need to check the licenses of the mods
16:21 sdzen           but those textures scream rip
16:21 Nifticus        What... the... fuck...
16:21 Nifticus        So he didn't do ANYTHING.
16:21 Nifticus        Omfg.
16:21 Nifticus        I am so mad right now :o
16:22 Peacock         crack open his skull and feast on the warm goo inside?
16:22 Peacock         or just regular mad?
16:22 Nifticus        I would do that, thanks for he suggestion.
16:22 sdzen           mmmm goo!
16:22 Nifticus        Time to change the engine.
16:24 Nifticus        I can't believe he did this...
16:24 Peacock         i cant believe it's not butter
16:24 Nifticus        I love that :D
16:24 Nifticus        I use it on my morning bagels & waffles
16:25 Peacock         its great with my morning cigarette and coffee too XD
16:25 Nifticus        xD
16:25 * sdzen         tugs on Peacocks feathers, "but, isn't smoking bad?"
16:26 Nifticus        Hmm, what the change...
16:26 * Calinou       upvotes sdzen
16:26 Peacock         "dieing of lung cancer can seriously damage your health" ive read the warnings :p
16:26 PenguinDad      !g Electroware
16:27 MinetestBot     PenguinDad: https://myspace.com/electrowaredsp
16:27 Nifticus        Changing the core engine.
16:27 PenguinDad      xD
16:29 sdzen           aaaah! myspace!
16:30 sdzen           thats not the kind of web presence you want at all for an upcoming company
16:30 Nifticus        Guys
16:31 kahrl           wait, myspace still exists?
16:31 Nifticus        Can I release a partially modified core engine temporarily, then I will release the fully modified after?
16:31 Peacock         Electroware - wearable electrocution devices for prisons XD
16:31 sfan5           Nifticus: yes
16:31 Nifticus        Peacock xD
16:31 Nifticus        Okay Sfan.
16:31 BlockMen        kahrl -> http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/soziales-netzwerk-fuer-musiker-myspace-startet-noch-einmal-neu-1.1574098
16:32 Nifticus        And.
16:32 Nifticus        One more thing.
16:32 PenguinDad      Nifticus: but you have to provide the source code
16:32 Nifticus        If I sell it Penguin.
16:32 Nifticus        I don't sell it.
16:32 PilzAdam        Nifticus, no, you always have to provide the sourcecode
16:32 jin_xi          if you distribute i believe
16:32 Nifticus        Always...?
16:33 PenguinDad      Nifticus: yes!
16:33 Nifticus        Well, that's easy.
16:33 Calinou         PilzAdam: he claims the engine is unmodified
16:33 PilzAdam        Calinou, then he can point to our repo
16:34 Nifticus        I will link it to the Minetest engine.
16:34 Nifticus        That fine?
16:34 Calinou         link it?
16:34 Calinou         ideally, yes, distribute it as a game for the Minetest engine
16:34 MinetestBot     GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Simplify code of mainmenu world sort 779165144e 2013-08-06T09:33:23-07:00 http://git.io/aSqlqQ
16:34 PilzAdam        Nifticus, if you dont modify the engine why do you even distribute it? just release crevis as a game for the minetest engine
16:35 PilzAdam        i.e. only the lua files, textures, sounds and models
16:35 Nifticus        I plan to modify the engine.
16:35 Nifticus        I already hav
16:35 Nifticus        But Preston keeps releasing it every single day
16:35 Nifticus        -.-
16:35 Calinou         use a git repo
16:36 Nifticus        He downloads a new mod, says he added something, then releases it.
16:36 sfan5           !title
16:36 MinetestBot     sfan5: Soziales Netzwerk - Myspace startet noch einmal neu - Digital - S&uuml;ddeutsche.de
16:36 sdzen           cut off preston and disallow him from releasing
16:36 sdzen           your the founder yes?
16:36 Nifticus        Yes.
16:37 sdzen           take the reigns and beat him into a corner crying
16:37 Nifticus        I used to use this 3D engine
16:37 Nifticus        I made my own Minecraft engine off of that
16:37 Nifticus        Crafting and shit was too hard
16:37 Nifticus        So I switched to Minetest.
16:37 Nifticus        temporarily as I thought.
16:37 Nifticus        I will Sdzen.
16:37 Nifticus        <3
16:38 Calinou         there is no need to create your own engine anyway ;)
16:38 Calinou         we have enough already
16:38 sdzen           yep :P
16:38 Nifticus        Mmm.
16:39 * sdzen         was just electrocuted by a headphone, do not trust anything he says
16:39 Nifticus        Crevis is supposed to be a game built off the Minetest engine, but from what I'm seeing, it is the minetest engine.
16:39 Nifticus        +100000 mods.
16:39 Nifticus        "Nobody codes anymore" -Preston
16:40 Nifticus        The fatasses who rip off coders do
16:40 Nifticus        *don't
16:40 Calinou         sdzen: electrocuted = death by electricity
16:40 Calinou         does your ghost have the ability to talk on IRC?
16:40 sdzen           can't kill what was already dead
16:40 Nifticus        ^^
16:41 sdzen           lets just say my buddy frank set me up
16:41 Nifticus        I'm new to C++ :o
16:41 Nifticus        I will admit that.
16:41 PilzAdam        Nifticus, ehm... a game for the Minetest engine consists only of mods
16:42 Nifticus        True, dat.
16:42 Nifticus        Except Preston didn't make or modify any of them
16:42 PilzAdam        so just go to the games/ folder, grab "minetest_game", rename it to "crevis" and release it
16:42 PilzAdam        done.
16:43 Nifticus        I'm going to go delete some mods from it atm.
16:43 Nifticus        Or change them.
16:43 Nifticus        either one.
16:43 svuorela        it would btw be nice if one didn't need to get 100 external mods to make minetest realyl interesting.
16:43 PilzAdam        you dont need to change mods, repacking them in a game is perfectly fine
16:44 PilzAdam        oh, and put the textures from textures/all/ in the according mods
16:44 Nifticus        Pilz.
16:44 Nifticus        Or if you prefer adam
16:44 PilzAdam        I prefer PilzAdam
16:45 Nifticus        Okay.
16:45 Nifticus        PilzAdam, I prefer to change them as much as possible.
16:46 Nifticus        Prefer.
16:46 PenguinDad      Nifticus: be aware of the licenses
16:46 Nifticus        True, dat. ^^
16:47 Nifticus        Deleted carts.
16:47 Calinou         most mods on the Mod Releases section allow commercial usage, and all of them should allow derivatives
16:47 Calinou         why delete mods randomly?
16:47 Nifticus        Only having the neccassary.
16:47 Nifticus        I will recode them originally.
16:47 Calinou         what's the point in reinventing the wheel?
16:48 Nifticus        Originality.
16:48 Nifticus        I will not install mods into Minetest and call it a new game
16:48 Nifticus        That's just wrong.
16:49 Calinou         it isn't
16:49 Calinou         and that isn't how you make money anyway :P
16:50 Nifticus        It is
16:50 sdzen           there is one thing thats true about everything
16:50 sdzen           nothing is original
16:50 Nifticus        It is wrong
16:50 Nifticus        But if it's in my power to make it original
16:50 Nifticus        then I will.
16:50 Calinou         well, waste your time then
16:50 Nifticus        ^^
16:51 PilzAdam        Calinou, he is 14
16:51 PilzAdam        14 year  olds waste their time
16:51 sfan5           Jordach: I'm working on a script that translates the (german) log files how pisg wants them and we can have a full report
16:51 Nifticus        Actually, just making it original.
16:52 Calinou         original, in what way?
16:52 Calinou         you could make the carts go faster or have a different look easily...
16:52 Nifticus        Well, not original.
16:52 Nifticus        I'm modifying them.
16:53 Calinou         that makes it original to the end user
16:53 PenguinDad      there is nothing in this world that is really original
16:53 Nifticus        True...
16:53 Nifticus        Then what I really have to modify is the core engine if I want to release it as a different game.
16:54 Calinou         make sure you really need, and that you can't get your modification to upstream first
16:54 Calinou         need it*
16:58 Jordach         sfan5, WOOTR
16:58 Jordach         -R
16:58 sfan5           almost done
16:59 sfan5           *ding*
16:59 sfan5           done
17:03 Nifticus        Maybe I should switch to another engine
17:05 Calinou         why?
17:07 Nifticus        ..
17:07 Nifticus        Idk.
17:07 Nifticus        Minetest... I like the engine...
17:07 Nifticus        But I don't think the devs like me using it
17:08 PilzAdam        wut?
17:08 Nifticus        I just don't think you like me using it
17:08 Nifticus        I guess I'm going to have to find a new engine...
17:09 Nifticus        Anyone heard of Unity3D?
17:09 Nifticus        Might use that
17:09 PilzAdam        you are ridiculous
17:10 PenguinDad      Unity3D != Open Source
17:10 Nifticus        Unity3D is a program.
17:11 Calinou         unity sucks
17:11 Calinou         Nifticus: we are fine with that
17:11 Nifticus        Then what to use?
17:11 Nifticus        Too much hate though
17:11 Calinou         this is open source, you are allowed to use it just fine.
17:11 Calinou         PilzAdam is sometimes arrogrant, feel free to ignore him
17:12 Nifticus        I used to admire PilzAdam's work on mods and stuff, I got the impression he was a nice guy. xD
17:12 PilzAdam        Nifticus, the hate is because of what you have done; do something useful to gain respect
17:13 Nifticus        What I have done?
17:13 PilzAdam        crevis
17:13 Nifticus        What the hell have II done.
17:13 Nifticus        What about it?
17:13 Calinou         well, he doesn't like it because you released it as a separate game
17:13 PilzAdam        redistributing Minetest under a different name is not good
17:14 Nifticus        Except I modified the _game
17:14 Calinou         PilzAdam: please don't act like a gnome 3 developer
17:14 Calinou         these are exactly the kind of people who piss off other people
17:14 thexyz          lol
17:14 PilzAdam        Calinou, I dont know any gnome 3 devs
17:14 Nifticus        So technically I redistributed a MODIFIED version of Minetest.
17:15 PilzAdam        Nifticus, Minetest is the engine, minetest_game is not Minetest
17:15 thexyz          http://www.dgsiegel.net/news/2013_07_27-on_why_removing_features_makes_people_unhappy
17:15 thexyz          ^ gnome 3 dev
17:15 Nifticus        .-.
17:15 thexyz          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6121007
17:20 sfan5           lol
17:21 sdzen           then what is minetest pilzadam?
17:21 sdzen           the game
17:22 sdzen           whats left of it ?
17:22 PilzAdam        wat?
17:23 thexyz          Nifticus: all you've done is fine
17:24 thexyz          Nifticus: some developers are hard to talk with
17:24 Calinou         ^
17:25 thexyz          that's what is always true in this wonderful world of open source
17:25 Nifticus        True.
17:25 Nifticus        Thanks
17:25 Nifticus        I guess I'll keep using Minetest.
17:26 Nifticus        When I was about 10 years old these kids at my school would tell me I was nothing, I could do nothing, and I would never make a difference.
17:26 Nifticus        ^^
17:26 Nifticus        Anyone have a detailed/working tutorial for compiling for windows? :o
17:27 PenguinDad      Change your OS to Linux
17:28 Nifticus        That's basically throwing away Windows 8 -.-
17:28 hdastwb         unless you dual-boot
17:28 Nifticus        True.
17:32 Calinou         compiling on windows is painful, but there are some guides on the forum
17:32 Nifticus        Every single time I do it Cmake says there is a problem in the configuration process or whatever
17:33 Calinou         yes, missing dependencies
17:33 Calinou         hdastwb: or you virtualize :p
17:36 Nifticus        Missing depenndencies?
17:36 Nifticus        But I download everything
17:36 Calinou         you need to download irrlicht, zlib and all that and _point to them_
17:36 Calinou         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434
17:36 Calinou         can be outdated
17:37 Nifticus        The point?
17:37 Nifticus        _point?
17:37 Nifticus        I use Irrlicht 1.7.3
17:37 Nifticus        It's the only one there
17:37 Peacock         "accidentally went to prison, how to get out?" <- wouldn't be a very good prison if you could lol
17:37 Calinou         you need to point to it
17:37 Calinou         Peacock: haha
17:37 Calinou         Nifticus: cmake asks you for irrlicht path
17:38 Nifticus        Then what do I do??
17:38 jojoa1997       is there a default limit on how much ram minetest uses
17:39 PilzAdam        a physical limit
17:39 PenguinDad      AFAIK not
17:39 Exio4           if you use any 32bit OS the limit will be 3.5~ gb?
17:40 PenguinDad      So don't VanessaE's HDX textures on 32bit.
17:40 jojoa1997       nope you can
17:40 jojoa1997       use 32x or 16x
17:40 Jordach         i contest BULLSHIT
17:40 PenguinDad      jojoa1997: i mean 512px
17:40 Jordach         i USE 256X without over stepping 500mb
17:40 jojoa1997       my point in asking is minetest has been lagging and i was wondering if i could raise the ram it uses
17:41 Calinou         Exio4: ~2GB per process, no?
17:41 Calinou         PenguinDad: 512× HDX will work fine
17:41 Jordach         you cant change dynamicly allocated ram jojoa1997 - if you want memory changes, go back to your java game
17:41 Calinou         I'd be more concerned about VRAM usage than RAM
17:41 Peacock         how do you raise the ram it uses and how would that make things better? lol
17:41 jojoa1997       PenguinDad VanessaE doesnt even use that tp
17:41 jojoa1997       Jordach lighten up
17:42 PilzAdam        jojoa1997, watched tutorials on how to speed up Minecraft?
17:42 Exio4           lol ^
17:42 jojoa1997       nope
17:42 Exio4           jojoa1997: we aren't using a limited virtual machine
17:42 Jordach         jojoa1997, i'm not being dark
17:42 jojoa1997       can you speed up minecraft>
17:42 Peacock         go to settings, uncheck every box
17:42 jojoa1997       ?
17:42 jojoa1997       ok
17:42 Calinou         there are no checkboxes in minecraft, just things that say "on" and "off" :p
17:42 Peacock         alternatively, get a witch doctor to hit you with a wet chicken, i heard that increases rams
17:42 Calinou         jojoa1997: get better hardware :)
17:43 jojoa1997       actually i got more ram wich brought up the idea
17:43 Exio4           more slow ram *
17:43 Jordach         more ram does not mean better minetest performance
17:43 jojoa1997       hay i said it was an idea
17:43 Peacock         better gfx cards helps
17:44 * Jordach       agrees
17:44 Exio4           a better cpu with minetest; too
17:44 Peacock         the best drivers, a low-intensity os
17:44 Exio4           > best drivers
17:44 Jordach         fun fact: i get 40fps in OpenGL using 256 HDX
17:44 Peacock         fun fact: you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil
17:46 Peacock         lol i really got someone on my server called Black_jesus
17:50 khonkhortisan   the malcom x movie had an argument about whether jesus was black
17:54 Nifticus        Racist.
17:55 Peacock         lol whats racist about black jesus?
17:55 Jordach         what if Jesus WAS BLACK?
17:57 sfan5           if jesus was black god must've been black too
17:58 Peacock         that would make Africa god's chosen land
17:58 Peacock         twisted sense of humour he's got
17:58 PenguinDad      sfan5: or Jesus mother
18:00 BlockMen        sfan5, you didnt got the concept of omnipotence?
18:00 Peacock         is that when you cant get it up?
18:00 sfan5           Jordach: tell me why this is not working! https://gist.github.com/sfan5/b4f59a1b735c023532d4
18:00 bas0801         it's like saying your father is male and your mother is female. Calling your father "father" is sexist.
18:01 Jordach         sfan5, #bash
18:01 BlockMen        Peacock, lol
18:01 PilzAdam        sfan5, recode that in brainfak, its easier
18:01 Peacock         :P
18:01 sfan5           Jordach: not bash but regex
18:01 sfan5           PilzAdam: but that faks my brain
18:02 Peacock         regex leads to bashing things sometimes tho
18:03 Peacock         (different interpreters different rules)
18:03 hacker          > bash
18:03 hacker          > [
18:04 sfan5           Exio4!
18:04 hacker          sfan5!
18:04 sfan5           MinetestBot!
18:04 MinetestBot     sfan5!
18:04 MinetestBot     MinetestBot!
18:04 sfan5           hacker: MinetestBot is faster
18:04 PenguinDad      Me!
18:04 * sfan5         looks at PilzAdam
18:04 * PilzAdam      hides
18:04 PenguinDad      PenguinDad!
18:04 VanessaE        hi all
18:04 Exio4           sfan5!
18:04 sfan5           Exio4:
18:04 Calinou         don't look at kubuntu users, they'll composite you
18:04 hacker          dat lag
18:05 hacker          what is the exact bug sfan5?
18:05 sfan5           hacker: it doesn't work at all
18:05 sfan5           the regexes seem to do nothing
18:05 sfan5           applysed /tmp/logfile.log 's/KikaRz/poopman/'
18:05 sfan5           ^ that works
18:06 PilzAdam        sfan5.m_regex->getSkill() == 0
18:06 sfan5           not that but
18:06 sfan5           Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 21 times.
18:07 hacker          sfan5: weechat logs? :P
18:07 hacker          ah
18:07 hacker          xchat nvm
18:08 Jordach         here sfan5 - you see this M4A1? Ping my name again bitch, I double dare ya!
18:09 * hacker        takes his ak47 and looks at Jordach
18:09 * Jordach       hits J then holds E
18:09 sfan5           You wouldn't do this, Jordach
18:09 * sfan5         hides
18:09 * Jordach       throws a grenade at sfan5
18:09 Jordach         SEEEMMMMMTEEEEXXX!
18:09 Peacock         watch out, he's been known to whip out his baguette and hit people with it
18:10 * hacker        backstabs Jordach at the time he throws the granade
18:10 sfan5           grenade:disable()
18:10 hacker          genade*
18:10 hacker          fuck
18:10 hacker          grenade
18:10 * Calinou       takes his G36 and PSG1, shoots at hacker
18:10 Jordach         on_disable(spawn_nade, pos)
18:10 Calinou         hacker says "noob weap" and ragequits
18:10 hacker          b84b46b83b84b85b83b14,.,.,.,.,.,
18:10 sfan5           missile.new(true):target(Jordach):launch()
18:10 hacker          oops, this isn't cs :3
18:10 * Jordach       uses fast move
18:11 Jordach         nice try sfan5
18:11 hacker          the anticheat got you
18:11 sfan5           for i=1,100 do missile.new(true):target(Jordach):launch() end
18:11 Peacock         jordach moved too fast, resetting position
18:11 hacker          your position got reverted
18:12 sfan5           Peacock:attack(Calinou)
18:12 Calinou         sfan5:attack(sfan5)
18:12 Calinou         Calinou:attack(nil)
18:12 Jordach         Jordach:nuke(all)
18:13 Peacock         that wouldn't work, were both french, we can't both surrender :p
18:13 Calinou         Nuke is not allowed on this server.
18:13 PenguinDad      ERROR: Target is a nil value.
18:13 sfan5           Calinou:play("redeclipse-1.4")  Calinou:busy_state() == true
18:13 khonkhortisan   Khonkhortisan:summon(nyancat)
18:13 * hacker        makes Calinou segfault
18:14 sfan5           game:get_object("nyancat"):attack(Peacock)
18:14 Calinou         Peacock: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/51599121eab8ea5b57000003-590/if-you-hit-the-im-feeling-lucky-button-after-searching-for-french-military-victories-heres-what-google-suggests-you-search-for-instead.jpg
18:14 sfan5           game:get_object("nyancat"):meow()
18:14 Peacock         lol, well there was napolean for a while
18:15 Peacock         he almost united europe
18:16 sfan5           ..so
18:16 sfan5           are we done fighting?
18:17 * Jordach       attacks sfan5 using a kitten crossbow
18:17 Jordach         i found a use for the extras
18:17 PilzAdam        Peacock, some german guy almost united the whole world
18:17 * hacker        stabs Jordach with a chainsaw
18:17 BlockMen        Peacock, nice sort of unity -.-
18:17 PenguinDad      Left 4 Dead
18:17 BlockMen        PilzAdam, he was austrian :P
18:17 sfan5           game:get_object("nyancat"):clone():equip("lasergun"):attack(Jordach)
18:18 * Jordach       grabs the nearby toaster
18:18 Peacock         well, europe anyways, not sure about the whole world, i think the russians might have something to say about that :p
18:18 Jordach         back you go nyan cat!
18:19 BlockMen        game = nil
18:19 sfan5           game:get_object("nyancat"):attack(Jordach)
18:19 sfan5           damnit
18:19 sfan5           BlockMen:undo():disable()
18:19 sfan5           game:get_object("nyancat"):attack(Jordach)
18:19 Jordach         Jordach:auto_regeneration(100)
18:20 sfan5           game:disable_feature("auto_regenration")
18:20 Jordach         sfan5:disable_game_config(true)
18:20 sfan5           Jordach:undo_action()
18:20 Jordach         sfan5:undo_action()
18:21 sfan5           Jordach:undo_action()
18:21 Jordach         sfan5:undo_action(all)
18:21 sfan5           Jordach:undo_action(all)
18:21 sfan5           Jordach:remove()
18:21 hacker          game:quit()
18:21 sfan5           game = nil
18:21 sfan5           done!
18:21 PilzAdam        !op
18:21 PenguinDad      hacker:destroy()
18:22 Peacock         lol
18:22 sfan5           !deop PilzAdam
18:22 Peacock         arent they both ops tho?
18:22 hacker          hacker:hack(#minetest)
18:22 sfan5           Peacock: yes
18:22 PenguinDad      #minetest is a nil value
18:23 PenguinDad      hacker:hack("#minetest")
18:23 BlockMen        #minetest return size of minetest
18:23 BlockMen        #minetest = 100
18:23 sfan5           ^ won't work
18:23 Jordach         and that PilzAdam is why the community hates you
18:23 Jordach         you're no fun
18:23 BlockMen        print(#minetest) -> 100
18:23 Peacock         lol well it was getting to be a little overkill :P
18:23 sfan5           Jordach: you mean community:hate(PilzAdam) ;)
18:23 PilzAdam        :3
18:24 * hacker        backstabs PilzAdam
18:24 Peacock         too late, we saw your host mouhaha
18:25 * Peacock       locks on with futon torpedos
18:25 Jordach         futon?
18:25 khonkhortisan   the unaffiliated jemadux is on a home network
18:25 Jordach         do you fire folding up futons Peacock
18:26 Peacock         thats right, i got a folding couch launcher :P
18:26 * khonkhortisan shoots the torpedos with a crouton machine gun
18:26 khonkhortisan   good luck getting that out
18:26 hacker          !translate es en pedos
18:29 ShadowNinja     ShadowBot: translate es en pedos
18:29 ShadowBot       ShadowNinja: farts
18:29 sfan5           Jordach: corrected irc stats up! http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
18:30 Calinou         gtg
18:30 sfan5           ^ haha
18:30 vrga            any difference in using lua-jit vs ordinary lua in terms of this?
18:30 sfan5           no, not really
18:30 Jordach         FUUUUUUUUU-- Jordach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 666 actions!
18:31 Calinou         oh there are stats!
18:31 VanessaE        can someone please chime in my on server thread and help figure out wtf is this guy's problem?  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104044#p104044
18:31 khonkhortisan   I'm going to plant a stat.
18:31 VanessaE        I'm at a total loss now as to explain it
18:31 khonkhortisan   Random ircstats quotes FTW!
18:31 Jordach         okay, i call bullshit on Jordach2 getting more fuckin swears
18:32 Jordach         we can all agree: markveidemanis seemed to be hated too: 4 kicks were received.
18:32 VanessaE        (you'll want to read the rest of the thread, starting at that post
18:32 VanessaE        )
18:32 vrga            odd. no exec installed. hrrm. funtoo, where'd you fail.
18:32 ShadowNinja     2018 lines...
18:32 hacker          sfan5: would you setup my nick alias? init, exio, exio4, hacker, nax and n4x ;P
18:33 sfan5           hacker: maybe
18:33 hacker          (mainly because i have like 3 clients connected and fallbacks nick to all of them)
18:34 hacker          STHGOM wrote the shortest lines, averaging 18.2 characters per line.
18:34 hacker          Infinity_69 was tight-lipped, too, averaging 18.5 characters.
18:34 hacker          lol ..
18:34 Jordach         tight lipped; giggity
18:34 * Jordach       giggles
18:34 Jordach         667 actions
18:36 * vrga          goes to rummage into the ebuild
18:38 sfan5           Jordach: stats for minetest dev http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest-dev.html
18:38 kahrl           "Nobody beat anyone up. Everybody was friendly."
18:38 BlockMen        lol, -> "MinetestBot wasn't very popular, getting kicked 7 times!"
18:39 Jordach         she fucking aint
18:39 Jordach         she's popular with the men
18:39 khonkhortisan   aw the quotes are random
18:39 Jordach         ;)
18:39 hacker          sapier brings happiness to the world. 14.4% lines contained smiling faces. :)
18:39 hacker          haha
18:40 Peacock         it kinda concerns me that so many consider the bot a woman lol
18:40 sfan5           sfan5 is also a sad person, crying 1.3% of the time.
18:40 Peacock         if the bot is indeed a woman, you should throw in some kinda of kinky talk when you PM it lol
18:40 sfan5           Jordach: any other channels I should do?
18:41 Jordach         dunno
18:41 sfan5           Peacock: do you know python? yes? Then program that
18:41 Jordach         this channel gets better and better :)
18:42 sfan5           http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest-mods.html
18:42 sfan5           "L4ndM1ne is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 2 times."
18:42 Peacock         i know python but that doesnt mean i enjoy it :p
18:43 Peacock         besides print() is the same in any language
18:43 khonkhortisan   there should! Because people _could_ think, server _would_ think, about something...
18:43 khonkhortisan   ^ most common words on this channel
18:44 Peacock         if servers could think, we wouldn't need autobahn
18:44 sfan5           Jordach: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/8dromeda.html
18:44 khonkhortisan   hi lulz
18:45 Tesseract       Another old yeller was ShadowNinja, who shouted 10.0% of the time! <-- What?
18:45 hacker          15:45:24 trekweb-freenode  -- | [lulz] idle: 8 days, 20 hours 40 minutes 44 seconds, signon at: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:20:47
18:45 hacker          lol, idle 8 days
18:46 Nifticus        hehe
18:49 thexyz          crap shit
18:49 Peacock         voxel toilet?
18:50 thexyz          there's no sane "warnings" extension for punbb
18:50 thexyz          and i'd like to warn the crap out of this post https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104212#p104212
18:50 sfan5           what the...
18:50 VanessaE        thexyz: or just delete it.
18:50 Peacock         well the usual thing is to just post a reply warning them
18:50 sfan5           just ban Ragnar completly
18:51 Peacock         wtf lol
18:51 thexyz          Peacock: I'd better remove it and issue a warning
18:51 Peacock         yeah
18:51 Peacock         just saw
18:51 VanessaE        posts like that don't need a warning, they need a delete - nothing pisses a person off more than a post magically disappearing :-)
18:51 thexyz          VanessaE: well, in my world "warning" means a bar in user's profile
18:51 thexyz          when it overflows user is deleted
18:51 VanessaE        "a bar"?
18:51 thexyz          and then shoot
18:51 thexyz          uh, wait
18:51 Peacock         kinda like negative karma lol
18:52 VanessaE        interesting idea
18:52 * sfan5         likes how "would" and "should" are in most used words list in every channel
18:52 thexyz          VanessaE: well, that's how they usually work
18:52 VanessaE        thexyz: we used to use the word "demerits" here for that
18:53 VanessaE        but that word I guess has fallen out of favor
18:53 Nifticus        hehe
18:53 Peacock         they call points on a license demerits here
18:54 sdzen           "this post has been flagged as a load of cat scat, click here to see original post"
18:54 sdzen           thats what we need :)
18:54 VanessaE        haha
18:55 Tesseract       sfan5: If you can, please link my nicks too.
18:56 sfan5           if anyone wants nicks linked please post them again now
18:56 thexyz          link?
18:56 sfan5           thexyz: link = alias, so pisg doesn't handle them like different
18:57 Tesseract       ShadowNinja == Tesseract and hacker == exio == exio4 == init...
19:00 Jordach         sfan5, Jordach2 and Jordach_ and Jordach__
19:01 VanessaE        bbl
19:02 BlockMen        bye everyone
19:03 sdzen           sdzen = sdzen1 = muadtralk = Keeway1233 = hmmm
19:04 sfan5           Jordach: got it
19:04 sfan5           sdzen: got it
19:06 Jordach         aww
19:06 thexyz          wait, wut
19:06 PilzAdam        my wifi unicorn hates me :-/
19:06 Jordach         PilzAdam uses WI-FI?!?!?! HOLY SHITBALLS
19:06 vrga            whoever made the funtoo/gentoo ebuild needs to be whacked over the head for not testing it proper.
19:07 thexyz          til there's ebuild for minetest
19:08 sfan5           IRC reports regenrated
19:08 sfan5           *regenrated!
19:08 vrga            thexyz, whud?
19:08 Jordach         !stats
19:08 Jordach         ^ we need that
19:08 PilzAdam        sfan5, PilzAdam == PilzAdam_
19:09 thexyz          vrga: "today i learned"
19:10 hdastwb         VanessaE, what are your thoughts on this? https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/50
19:10 vrga            thexyz, wish it'd work tho :p
19:11 vrga            it installs minetest into: "/var/tmp/portage/games-action/minetest-0.4.7/image/usr/games/" instead of "/usr/games"
19:11 vrga            fuck if i know why tho.
19:11 thexyz          wait, it's temporary directory
19:11 vrga            willing to bet that cmake picked something up somewhere but no clue how to debug that.
19:11 vrga            yup.
19:12 thexyz          let me emerge it
19:12 Jordach         lol :P
19:12 vrga            trying now with the proper FEATURES="keepwork" so i can at least see what the hell cmake pulls in.
19:13 sdzen           hdastwb, Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned that in the realm of minetest, there exists pipes that magically teleport players.
19:13 Tesseract       hdastwb: #2 is a big issue, at least add escapes like \: and \;.
19:13 Calinou         sdzen: ಠ_à²
19:14 Jordach         there can only be one MLP fan in minetest
19:14 thexyz          it sucks that much?
19:15 PenguinDad      celestia is software, right?
19:15 sfan5           Jordach: reports regenerated
19:15 Jordach         for fuck sakes sfan5
19:15 sfan5           just wanted to inform your
19:15 sfan5           -r
19:15 Jordach         well done - make a auto script or something
19:16 Jordach         because reminding me every five mins does piss me off
19:16 Nifticus        hehe
19:16 Jordach         i cant even leave hexchat without being fucking pinged
19:16 thexyz          vrga: works fine here
19:16 vrga            thexyz, hrrng.
19:16 Jordach         vrga, does your card support OpenGL
19:16 vrga            could be a subtle difference on/with funtoo then
19:16 sfan5           lol
19:17 vrga            Jordach, that has nothing to do with my issue :p
19:17 sfan5           quote for john_minetest: "Hello everypony from Ecuador!"
19:17 Calinou         Tesseract: do u even SSAO
19:17 Calinou         </tesseract engine jokes>
19:17 Calinou         http://tesseract.gg
19:18 vrga            thexyz, any chance you can get me the cmake_install.cmake file from your end?
19:19 Niften          Hey
19:19 Jordach         Niften, use hexchat
19:19 Calinou         hi
19:19 thexyz          vrga: http://bpaste.net/show/120565/
19:19 vrga            thexyz, thanks :)
19:20 Niften          Hexchat?
19:20 * Calinou       stll doesn't get sdzen
19:20 Calinou         still*
19:20 Calinou         well, it's not like it's easy to understand them anyway
19:20 PenguinDad      WeeChat if you are a hard guy :P
19:21 sfan5           !help
19:21 MinetestBot     https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
19:22 sdzen           whats to get Calinou?
19:22 vrga            Calinou, why you versioning me?
19:23 vrga            thexyz, there's noticeable difference between mine and yours. fuck if i know why. yay, manual compile time :D
19:24 Calinou         sdzen: the sentence you said when I joined
19:24 Jordach         <Jordach> .py import soul
19:24 Jordach         <jenni> ImportError: No module named soul
19:25 sdzen           check the logs
19:25 Jordach         and this is why we wont get AI
19:25 Calinou         vrga: because? :P
19:25 vrga            Calinou, ffffuuuu.
19:26 Calinou         2304 people have been hating on versioning, 696 until we reach our goal
19:28 Jordach         minetest should adopt rolling release
19:28 vrga            i have gotten metro2033 for the 3rd time from humble bundle now. what the satan...
19:28 PilzAdam        Jordach, why?
19:28 Calinou         Jordach: most distros wouldn't like that
19:28 Tesseract       Jordach: git pull?
19:28 Calinou         ...this is wby no FOSS rolling release game is popular
19:29 Calinou         also, you can just run latest git if you want
19:29 PilzAdam        99 people here
19:29 Calinou         used to be 100 :P
19:29 Niften          Ohhhh lord.
19:29 Niften          xD
19:29 Tesseract       sfan5: us_0gb == [0gb_us] == NotReallyNick
19:30 Niften          What a difference ^^
19:30 PenguinDad      PilzAdam: 2 of them are bots
19:31 Calinou         Calinou == ChanServ
19:31 Niften          FPSxAMERICA xD
19:31 PenguinDad      xD
19:31 Niften          I'm looking @ the IRC from yesterday :D
19:31 Niften          CaptionZombies12
19:31 Niften          xD
19:32 Niften          lmao
19:39 Niften          hehe
19:43 Menche          Windows requires me to set a password hint, but only recommends setting a password?
19:43 Calinou         windows logic
19:43 Calinou         put anything and it'll work, anyway :P
19:43 * Kacey         is going to make an ftb modpack
19:43 Calinou         a ftb modpack*
19:44 Menche          so i could choose to not set a password, but it still requires me to set a hint (gotta have some security, right)
19:44 svuorela        how much of a tree do I need to take down for leaves to despawn and saplins appear? and is it different with moretrees trees ?
19:44 vrga            Kacey, ye shall be my hero if you do that.
19:44 vrga            and if there'll be something equivalent to RP2 in that :p
19:44 Kacey           Calinou, i say the letters FTB and f starts with a vowel sound so i say "an"
19:45 Menche          leaves decay if there's no tree within a certain distance
19:45 Kacey           vrga, mesecons is kinda like rp2
19:45 Kacey           along with technic and pipeworks and the like
19:45 Calinou         Kacey: ._.
19:45 Menche          for a small tree, you'd have to take down all of the trunk except for maybe the very bottom bit
19:46 Calinou         svuorela: you can dig the leaf blocks for saplings
19:46 vrga            hey, if i can get the industry running ala late tekkit, me happy.
19:46 Kacey           and for moretrees, all the tree blocks
19:46 hdastwb         Tesseract: I've just finished adding some escapes, but when I tried to test I got a "name contains unallowed characters" error when joining as a user with a colon or semicolon in my name
19:46 svuorela        urgh. all treeblocks.
19:46 svuorela        I've found 235 treeblocks in this tree so far.
19:46 Menche          for a large moretree, couldn't you only remove all the treeblocks from a certain branch, so that section would decay?
19:47 hdastwb         it seems like minetest usernames cannot actually contain colons or semicolons anyway
19:47 Niften          Anyone know a good tut on compiling for windows?
19:48 thexyz          on compiling minetest for windows?
19:48 thexyz          readme.txt is good enough
19:48 sdzen           anyone look at the stickies in the forum anymore?
19:48 sdzen           :)
19:50 sdzen           seriously, if we put compiling instructions in any more places, they would be stapled to your eyelids
19:50 Niften          Well
19:51 Niften          readme.txt?
19:51 Niften          Where is that located?
19:51 Menche          if you downloaded minetest, it should be in the folder
19:51 sdzen           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434
19:51 sdzen           just follow this dude
19:51 Menche          or, just get it direct: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt
19:53 * PilzAdam      throws a grenade at his wifi unicorn
19:53 Niften          Mkk.
19:53 Niften          ^^
19:53 * Niften
19:53 vrga            thexyz, if you're around, could you toss me your $PATH?
19:53 sdzen           http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
19:53 Calinou         poor wifi unicorn :(
19:53 sdzen           ooooh nobody updated the wiki....
19:53 * Niften        Every single time I get an error...
19:53 vrga            or just if /usr/games/bin is in it?
19:53 Calinou         nopony*
19:53 * Niften        No tut works.
19:54 Niften          Wtf?
19:54 Calinou         ftw!
19:54 kahrl           Niften: try a different commit
19:54 Calinou         I bet he has missing dependencies
19:54 kahrl           MSVC build regularly breaks because of... MSVC
19:54 thexyz          vrga: yes, it's here
19:55 PenguinDad      hello kaeza
19:55 Niften          I use V S and CMake.
19:55 VanessaE        hdastwb: my thoughts are to merge it :P
19:55 vrga            thexyz, thanks
19:55 kaeza           hi PenguinDad
19:56 kahrl           Niften: visual studio = MSVC, for build purposes
19:56 thexyz          Niften: compiling under VS is a pain for several reasons
19:56 thexyz          1) random bugs
19:56 thexyz          2) see #1
19:56 Niften          Then what should I use..?
19:56 hdastwb         MinGW
19:56 kaeza           why isn't this guy banned yet? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104272#p104272
19:56 Calinou         it's slower at both compile and run time, but it works
19:57 Menche          MinGW installs a bash shell that is infinity times better than cmd.exe
19:57 thexyz          Example: all libs are /MT, but WAIT WAIT WHAT IS IT, lua is /MD, suddenly! let's throw linker error!
19:58 thexyz          kaeza: what was there?
19:58 Menche          windoze uses forward slashes for options, right?
19:58 vrga            Menche, anything, i mean anything is better than cmd.exe
19:58 kaeza           thexyz, lol
19:59 Niften          I'm going to attempt to compile again.
20:02 PilzAdam        any forum moderator: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104280#p104280 just ban him, he did this already a few times (creating topics with stupid question)
20:02 PilzAdam        he already got an answer in the jail mod topic
20:02 VanessaE        no, do not ban
20:02 Calinou         ^
20:02 Calinou         close topic
20:02 PenguinDad      I said him but he don't understand -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104280#p104280
20:02 VanessaE        you do NOT ban people for asking stupid questions
20:02 PilzAdam        he is obviously a torll
20:02 PilzAdam        *troll
20:03 VanessaE        just delete the thread.
20:03 vrga            whoever set the background to not be static deserves a whack upside the head.
20:03 thexyz          vrga: what background are you talking about?
20:03 vrga            VanessaE, why not. Considering the general level of intelligence of the average minecrafter spouting stuff...
20:03 vrga            thexyz, on the forum.
20:04 VanessaE        vrga: because every last one of us has done the same thing at some point in our lives.
20:04 PilzAdam        VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103960#p103960 that is obviously trolling
20:04 vrga            it scrolls at a different rate from the forum itself
20:04 thexyz          vrga: but it's static
20:04 thexyz          um, no
20:04 Jordach         ragnar needs a warning then a bad
20:04 thexyz          and drugs are bad, btw
20:04 Jordach         ban*
20:04 vrga            thexyz, nope.
20:04 Jordach         oh, it's already done
20:05 Menche          i would say warn him to stop flooding with small questions, then ban if it continues
20:05 thexyz          vrga: http://binaryanimal.spb.ru/tmp/tihkal_carpet.gif
20:06 VanessaE        thexyz: whoa, mindfuck
20:06 vrga            thexyz, my eyes, they bleed.
20:06 Calinou         ".ru"
20:06 Calinou         that was obvious
20:06 * Calinou       gallops away
20:07 vrga            thexyz, adding the background-attachment: fixed; to the page in chromium fixes the bg.
20:07 VanessaE        PilzAdam: or maybe, just MAYBE the guy doesn't know how to edit a .lua file?
20:07 thexyz          vrga: wait, you said >it scrolls at a different rate from the forum itself
20:07 thexyz          vrga: and with fixed it doesn't scroll at all which looks really odd
20:08 Niften          readme.txt doesn't have any information on compiling.
20:08 VanessaE        (or rather, doesn't know how to locate and edit init.lua in the mod in question)
20:08 Menche          doesn't know how to edit something? clicky-clicky -> select editor -> clicky -> edit -> save
20:08 Menche          doesn't take a rocket surgeon
20:08 Jordach         fuck me backwards: Saints Row 4 has a suit called "Craft Miner"
20:08 vrga            thexyz, i find it a smidge easier on the eyes when its fixed.
20:08 thexyz          i think it's perfect now http://i.imgur.com/aMudYtR.jpg
20:09 VanessaE        Menche: clicky-cli---- oh wait...if I do that, will this other thing break?  ---cky...  select editor--- -oh fuck, this could totally trash my system!!!!!!1one---  edit -> save ...  save where?   What if I screw up?
20:09 VanessaE        ^^^^ my late mother, doing those steps.
20:09 vrga            brb
20:09 Menche          thexyz, just set the background to solid bright orange
20:09 Jordach         VanessaE, lol
20:09 thexyz          vrga: dunno, for me it's the opposite
20:09 thexyz          WAIT WAIT
20:09 VanessaE        people are afraid to poke around anymore
20:09 VanessaE        let alone launch an editor that could actually make changes
20:10 thexyz          Menche: that'd be too boring
20:10 thexyz          we should have a different dirt texture though
20:10 thexyz          borders are way too visible
20:10 VanessaE        huh, I've kinda gotten used to the existing backdrop
20:10 vrga            scroll down fast and the flicker becomes a smidge annoying.
20:10 Menche          maybe the wood texture?
20:10 hdastwb         time to introduce texture packs for the forums as well?
20:11 Menche          because it's like a bulletin BOARD
20:11 hoodedice       *Yawn*
20:11 PenguinDad      MESE-Texture
20:11 hoodedice       !seen Peacock
20:11 MinetestBot     hoodedice: peacock was last seen at 2013-08-06 18:51:24 UTC on #minetest
20:11 Menche          the mese texture?
20:11 * Menche        's eyes start burning thinking about that
20:11 thexyz          vrga: i focus at content so this WORKSFORME
20:11 Calinou         maybe sand background, if you want to change
20:11 vrga            thexyz, heh
20:12 thexyz          closed (wontfix)
20:12 thexyz          dunno, really
20:12 vrga            or closed(couldnt find a fuck to give) :p
20:12 PilzAdam        we have a background in the forums?
20:12 thexyz          different "dirt" texture, that is, just make existing one better, anyone?
20:12 sdzen           I thought you could disable it from the settings menu
20:12 sdzen           not anymore?
20:13 thexyz          PilzAdam: are you using links?
20:13 hoodedice       We do?
20:13 PilzAdam        thexyz, why not?
20:13 vrga            lets try this now.
20:13 vrga            oh god. the textures are so muddled
20:14 Jordach         why cant we use the grass texture
20:14 sfan5           because the would be too grassy
20:14 Calinou         why not sand?
20:14 thexyz          because it's bla^Wgreen
20:14 Calinou         if you want something brighter
20:14 sdzen           but the dirt texture is so dirty
20:14 VanessaE        because it would be too sandy? :)
20:14 sdzen           I would never let my kids watch it
20:14 PenguinDad      Calinou: i agree
20:14 thexyz          anyway, test it and send a screenshot
20:17 Niften          Anyone know an updated compiling tut?
20:17 Niften          Windows?
20:17 sdzen           how about the existing one niften
20:17 thexyz          the one in readme
20:17 Niften          On the dev?
20:18 Niften          There is none in the readme
20:18 * sdzen         glares daggers at Niften
20:18 sdzen           readme.txt
20:18 sdzen           have you even downloaded the source?
20:18 Niften          Yes...
20:18 Niften          Oh, the one in the core engine?
20:18 Niften          Aye,
20:18 Niften          let me take a look @ that.
20:18 sdzen           yes
20:19 Menche          here, even selected the line: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L116
20:19 Niften          "- This section is outdated. In addition to what is described "
20:19 sdzen           do you want us to hold your hand darling?
20:20 Niften          Outdated.
20:20 Menche          just download the extra libraries it mentions
20:20 Menche          the rest should still be valid
20:21 Menche          if you don't need sound, then add -DENABLE_SOUND=0 to the cmake line
20:21 Menche          then you just need to get minetest_game
20:21 Jordach         103 users! we have set a new channel record
20:22 Menche          cue tons of bots joining
20:22 sdzen           http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest Updated the wiki abit
20:24 * Calinou       steals Princess Celestia from sdzen
20:24 Menche          Best way to compile minetest: 1) install linux if you're not already using it
20:25 Niften          Is OpenAL neccassary?
20:25 * Jordach       is busy with creating Market Streer
20:25 Jordach         Street*
20:25 Menche          openAL is only necessary if you want sound
20:25 * PenguinDad    is annoyed about Niften
20:25 Menche          if you don't want sound, leave openAL out and add -DENABLE_SOUND=0 to the cmake line
20:25 Niften          Mk.
20:26 Jordach         wait one second
20:26 * Jordach       is really suspicious
20:26 Jordach         Niften == reactor
20:26 Niften          ^^
20:26 Calinou         Menche: or install it in virtualbox, and hope MT runs well inside :P
20:26 Jordach         the only other person to say "mk" is reactor
20:27 Menche          back to a nice round 100 users on irc
20:28 MinetestBot     GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add version checker since so many people are confused about which version to use. 03327a767d 2013-08-06T13:28:05-07:00 http://git.io/pLilNA
20:29 Menche          LOL, read the message that gets sent there
20:29 Calinou         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104164#p104164
20:29 * Calinou       facehoof
20:29 Calinou         Jordach: it does
20:29 Niften          Niften
20:29 Niften          Aww.
20:29 Menche          "HEY YOU! YES, YOU OVER THERE. THIS VERSION OF WORLDEDIT REQUIRES MINETEST 0.4.8 OR LATER! YOU HAVE AN OLD VERSION."
20:29 MinetestBot     GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add initial code for worldedit_infinity. 4c43bf3600 2013-08-06T13:29:00-07:00 http://git.io/qR9uyQ
20:29 Calinou         " you can only have three programs open at once" I don't think so either
20:29 Jordach         Calinou, it does
20:30 Calinou         I've had more than 3 open at once
20:30 Calinou         and you can change the wallpaper hackily
20:30 sdzen           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44rIQYnJnQw incase you need some basic visuals of the premise of what we are asking you to do Niften
20:31 Niften          Thanks ^^
20:32 Jordach         keep calm and carry on: Niften is reactor
20:32 Niften          Is that a bad thing or a good thing?
20:32 Niften          :o
20:36 Niften          I never knew Oliveritv updated it
20:36 hoodedice       So...
20:37 hoodedice       *Silence*
20:38 Calinou         Jordach: reactor using Windows? :)
20:38 Calinou         haha
20:38 Jordach         but it makes odd sense
20:38 Jordach         <Niften> Mk.
20:38 Jordach         who ELSE says Mk.
20:38 Menche          Mk
20:39 * Menche        just did
20:39 * Jordach       slaps Menche with a copy of windows 8
20:39 PenguinDad      mkdir mkfifo
20:39 * Menche        gets a horrible rash where windows 8 touched him
20:39 * sdzen         throws a bucket of cool win95 on Menches rash
20:40 * Menche        catches fire
20:40 Jordach         it looks like menche has to........ open some windows
20:40 * PenguinDad    throws healing Linux on Menche.
20:41 hoodedice       sudo
20:41 sdzen           can minetest run on win95?
20:41 hoodedice       No
20:41 hoodedice       Because binaries
20:41 sdzen           :(
20:41 Menche          ?
20:41 hoodedice       Install Lubuntu or Xubuntu on that rig
20:41 sdzen           what am I going to do with all my floppies then?
20:42 hoodedice       Then try playing it
20:42 Jordach         DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY
20:42 hoodedice       (Can minetest run on a P2 600 MHz?)
20:42 * PilzAdam      doesnt have anything left to throw at the wifi unicorn
20:42 Menche          can you run minetest on Fedora Core 2?
20:43 Calinou         sdzen: put Minetest rule 34 on them
20:43 Calinou         Jordach: >:( draw us some megabytes of that
20:43 Menche          i have a howto book that came with a copy
20:44 * Jordach       wonders what "worldedit-infinity" is
20:44 hoodedice       EPIC TROLL: Play flightgear multiplayer with a call name of a plane that crashed
20:44 * PenguinDad    too.
20:44 hoodedice       Wait for the reaction)
20:45 sdzen           dangit Calinou now my mind is full of kinky shit
20:45 * Calinou       steals Princess Celestia from sdzen again and does kinky stuff to her
20:45 Jordach         i thought sop
20:45 Jordach         -p
20:46 * sdzen         still has luna, "and you will never find her!"
20:47 thexyz          Fun facts: there are 19 replies and zero prooflinks in this thread https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6715
20:56 Kacey           can you put a modpack within another modpack?
20:56 PilzAdam        dunno, try it
20:57 Calinou         I don't think you can
20:57 kaeza           yes you can
20:58 artur99         how are these images made: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5757/mapn.png ?
20:59 Jordach         if anyone looks at that map: there is a VISIBLE GRID
20:59 artur99         so, how to do that?
20:59 VanessaE        Jordach: old map
21:00 PilzAdam        artur99, with the minetestmapper
21:00 VanessaE        and that's minetestmapper.py that does it
21:00 VanessaE        in the util folder
21:00 PilzAdam        look in util/ of minetest
21:00 kaeza           or this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
21:00 VanessaE        (I use the C++ version)
21:01 artur99         and where are the map images saved?
21:01 Jordach         in the output dir you put it in
21:01 artur99         i used minetest_mapper.exe
21:01 artur99         and it opens and close
21:02 artur99         and nothing apears
21:02 Jordach         artur99, it's a command line tool
21:02 Calinou         yep
21:02 Jordach         not a gui tool
21:02 Calinou         you also need to give it some arguments
21:02 PilzAdam        it doesnt have a GUI
21:02 Calinou         (it'd be nice if we had a GUI tool, too, I guess)
21:02 Calinou         but not essential
21:03 VanessaE        sdzen: *poke*
21:03 sdzen           hmmm?
21:03 VanessaE        sdzen: you still maintaining your old building_blocks mod? ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=674 )
21:03 * sdzen         felt a touch
21:03 sdzen           yes I am
21:03 sdzen           it isn't out of date yet is it?
21:03 VanessaE        ok, looking to add support for HDX.
21:03 VanessaE        just wanted to make sure if there was a point to doing so :)
21:04 sdzen           I need to update my crafting images
21:06 artur99         where must this be placed> https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py ?
21:06 PenguinDad      artur99: we are talking about minetest
21:07 Menche          is blockplanet still alive?
21:07 artur99         and that isnt a minetest mapper?
21:07 artur99         idk
21:07 artur99         i found it on google
21:07 Menche          https://github.com/mireq/minetest-mapper-cpp
21:07 Jordach         reminder: artur uses windows
21:08 Menche          is minetestmapper.py included in the windoze package?
21:09 PilzAdam        Menche, no
21:09 artur99         but this works> http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/random/2011-05/minetestmapper.tar.gz ?
21:09 Calinou         artur99: very old, won't work
21:09 Menche          try this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py
21:09 Kacey           bbiab
21:10 Menche          the very latest
21:10 Calinou         it doesn't even work with 0.2_20110922 maps :P
21:10 artur99         Google Chrome says> This website contain malware programms, etc... when i acces http://celeron.55.lt/
21:11 Menche          the link i gave to github is the latest python mapper
21:12 Calinou         night
21:12 Menche          and if you have mods installed, you need a more complete colors.txt
21:12 artur99         requested python version is not installed
21:13 artur99         :(
21:13 Menche          VanessaE has a pretty extensive colors.txt here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt
21:13 Menche          do you have python installed?
21:13 artur99         yes
21:13 PilzAdam        lol "Google says"
21:13 Menche          iirc it requires python 2
21:13 Menche          and pil
21:13 Menche          http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
21:14 artur99         i will stop trying that
21:14 artur99         its too difficult
21:14 artur99         so many downloads
21:14 artur99         i must go to sleep
21:14 artur99         bye!
21:15 PilzAdam        the problem is definitely windows
21:15 Menche          does running python from cmd work? windows tends to neglect adding programs to the PATH
21:15 artur99         the problem is python
21:16 Menche          lol, just get python 2
21:16 PilzAdam        python works perfectly fine
21:16 Menche          that's the version it needs
21:16 PilzAdam        must be windows thats wrong
21:16 artur99         no, windows its not worng
21:16 PenguinDad      never call python or ruby a problem
21:17 artur99         its ultimate
21:17 artur99         whats ruby?
21:17 Menche          another programming language
21:17 artur99         but java is better than both
21:17 PenguinDad      http://ruby-lang.org
21:17 Menche          eeeww
21:17 PenguinDad      !title
21:17 MinetestBot     PenguinDad: Can't connect to http://ruby-lang.org
21:17 Menche          java isn't even the same category as python or ruby
21:18 artur99         !title
21:18 MinetestBot     artur99: Can't connect to http://ruby-lang.org
21:18 Menche          python and ruby are scripting languages
21:18 artur99         what is that?
21:18 artur99         like php and html?
21:18 Menche          i think php is, html isn't a programming language
21:18 thexyz          better use pillow, it's a pil fork
21:18 PenguinDad      http://www.ruby-lang.org/
21:18 artur99         k
21:18 PenguinDad      !title
21:18 MinetestBot     PenguinDad: No title found
21:18 artur99         bye
21:19 artur99         !title
21:19 MinetestBot     artur99: No title found
21:19 * Jordach       re-appears
21:19 * Menche        wonders if you could integrate code from Wubi into a virus and embed it in the windows version of minetest
21:20 Menche          so it installs linux when you run it
21:20 Jordach         then AVs kill it and terminate it
21:27 hoodedice       so...
21:27 hoodedice       Jordach, AVs kill anything they like
21:29 Octupuslegs     Hi
21:29 Octupuslegs     Can someone give me the latst git on minetest
21:30 PilzAdam        Octupuslegs, why dont you get it yourself?
21:30 Octupuslegs     PilzAdam: i been away from minetest for over half of a year  i dont remember where anything is anymore
21:31 hacker          http://github.com/minetest/minetest
21:31 hacker          http://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
21:31 hacker          yw
21:31 Octupuslegs     thank you sir
21:31 PilzAdam        go to minetest.net, youll find everything there
21:32 hoodedice       PIlzAdam.
21:32 hoodedice       Be more sensitive
21:32 hoodedice       -.-
21:32 hacker          he is somewhat right though
21:33 hacker          oh man
21:33 Octupuslegs     Is there 1 official build now or still multiple builds?
21:33 hacker          1 official build
21:33 hoodedice       One official
21:33 Jordach         several multiples
21:33 hacker          only for stable; then a lot of "non-official builds" compiled from somewhere; with newer versions
21:34 hoodedice       Unofficial here
21:34 hoodedice       https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=3
21:34 hoodedice       !title
21:34 MinetestBot     hoodedice: General Discussion (Page 1) — Minetest Forums
21:34 Octupuslegs     which one is most developed atm,this will be my last question
21:34 hoodedice       Depends on you.
21:34 hoodedice       Start with the stable, then experiment
21:35 hacker          Octupuslegs: all those builds are from git
21:35 hacker          the thing that changes is the compiler and not a lot of stuff more than the directx support from msvc builds
21:35 Octupuslegs     Yes i know,but which one is more commonly used now
21:36 hacker          it depends a lot, but a lot of people uses the stable
21:36 hacker          people that tends to "try" builds always use the latest available; doesn't matter if it is sfan5's, PilzAdam's, or nonwhere
21:50 hoodedice       ...
21:51 Octupuslegs     Anyone got skype btw
21:51 sdzen           M$ product!
21:51 * sdzen         hisses
21:51 Octupuslegs     oh shit sdzen, how long ago have i friggin seen you :0
21:52 hacker          yes, i have skype, i hacked it
21:52 hacker          because i'm a hacker!
21:52 hacker          h4x0r p0w4!
21:52 hacker          nah ;P
21:52 Octupuslegs     skype is free
21:52 sdzen           I think I was with your mother in the bedroom on the 10th with the spoon
21:55 Octupuslegs     :/
21:56 Menche          windows is nagging me to set up backup
21:56 Octupuslegs     first time playing minetest is months,this is so exciting
21:56 Menche          ...i don't do anything important on windows to backup
21:56 Octupuslegs     Menche,and im gonna join your server for my first trial in months
21:57 Menche          my server is sort of in shambles right now
21:57 Octupuslegs     how comez?
21:57 Menche          was going to reset it, got sidetracked...
21:57 Menche          griefing around the spawn
21:58 Menche          a bug in a mod allowed players infinite materials. result: diamonds scattered all over
21:58 Menche          !up menche.servegame.com
21:58 MinetestBot     menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (598ms)
21:58 Octupuslegs     oh
21:58 Octupuslegs     my bank got wrecked is that what your saying lol
21:59 Menche          where? sealife cove?
21:59 Octupuslegs     close to
21:59 Octupuslegs     it was right at spawn
21:59 Menche          since you were on last, i did a reset but transfered most of the spawn area over
22:00 Octupuslegs     ahh
22:00 Menche          sealife cove and glue city are in ruins
22:00 hoodedice       Hangouts is better
22:01 Tesseract       Menche: May I know which mod it was? I know of one...
22:01 Menche          it was specialties
22:02 Menche          specialties also enabled node drops, which i disabled
22:02 Menche          and put 5 files per player in my world folder
22:02 Menche          needless to say, i removed it
22:02 * Tesseract     knows of annother one on Menche's server. But it is aparently more obscure.
22:02 Octupuslegs     Menche,did OC discontinue his servers
22:03 Menche          oldcoder? no, i don't think so
22:03 Octupuslegs     what about RBAs
22:04 Menche          not sure
22:04 Tesseract       VanessaE: Did you get my message about pipeworks nodes?
22:04 VanessaE        no?
22:05 Menche          there should be a standard way of indicating the version of a git build
22:05 Tesseract       It seems the nodenames were changed. I have a bunch of unknown nodes on my server from it but it is running.
22:05 VanessaE        possibly nodebreakers and deployers?
22:05 Menche          some use the git hash, one uses the git has + a description, i prefer the date
22:05 VanessaE        or, update to the latest pipeworks
22:06 VanessaE        you might have that config bug I just fixed.
22:06 Menche          *hash
22:06 Tesseract       It was everything except extractors and the like, updating...
22:07 Octupuslegs     Minetest,should have an faster way to connect to servers
22:07 Menche          ?
22:07 Menche          faster than the built in serverlist?
22:08 Menche          you mean it's taking a while to log on?
22:08 Octupuslegs     Yes
22:08 Octupuslegs     im still on pipeworks
22:08 Octupuslegs     for textures
22:08 Menche          try disabling Preload item visuals
22:08 Tesseract       There, it's fixed.
22:09 Menche          with Preload item visuals enabled, it prepares the textures of every single node and item, whether or not you will be seeing it right away
22:09 Menche          takes a while with a lot of mods
22:10 Menche          also, using a build with cURL greatly speeds up downloading media from a supported server
22:14 VanessaE        sdzen: could I get you to do a quick update to building_blocks?  knife, marble, and tar pngs don't follow the usual modname_nodename.xxx convention.
22:23 PilzAdam        I just want to announce that I hate everyone who uses the spoiler thingy for commit logs in windows builds
22:24 sdzen           sure VanessaE
22:24 VanessaE        thanks
22:26 sdzen           who would use it for a commit log?
22:29 hoodedice       !seen Peacock
22:29 MinetestBot     hoodedice: peacock was last seen at 2013-08-06 18:51:24 UTC on #minetest
22:29 hoodedice       -.-
22:31 sdzen           looks like le cock has a fan
22:31 lordcirth       VanessaE, I am having trouble logging into your server.  A client is already connected, etc.  DO you know how to reset that?
22:31 VanessaE        lordcirth: this problem is already known.  lots of people are having it and it's not just my server now
22:31 VanessaE        Landrush and Remobo too
22:32 Menche          Remobo? there's still servers using that?
22:32 VanessaE        apparently
22:32 sdzen           remoboray I assume?
22:32 lordcirth       VanessaE, Yes, I checked the forum thread.  I was just wondering if there's a fix
22:32 VanessaE        not yet
22:32 VanessaE        but the devs know about it, and for the moment even c55 is confused :-)
22:33 PilzAdam        this is a release blocking bug
22:33 VanessaE        absolutely.
22:34 PilzAdam        things do not look good for RBA's magazine
22:34 sdzen           time to pacaur -S minetest-git again, odd I didn't think mine was out of date
22:34 VanessaE        RBA said he will delay it until the following issue if necessary
22:36 sdzen           so whats this about a magazine?
22:37 Menche          what's the best version of node_ownership? codeandfix's repository?
22:37 sdzen           I hate that version
22:37 sdzen           go for the one Raphael fixed
22:38 Tesseract       Menche: My areas mod. :-)
22:38 sdzen           it operates more like the original one
22:38 Tesseract       shadowninja.minetest.net/areas.tgz
22:38 Menche          how does areas work?
22:38 Tesseract       (It requires WorldEdit for position setting)
22:38 VanessaE        sdzen: there's some major Polish mag that wants to do an exposé on MT and make a DVD release of it + lots of extras
22:39 Tesseract       //p set /set_owner singleplayer The spawn area!
22:39 sdzen           Tesseract, that sounds like unwanted dependency area
22:39 Tesseract       sdzen: I didn't want to copy all of it.
22:40 Tesseract       Most servers have WE anyway.
22:40 Menche          so it is basically an easier interface on top of the original node_ownership?
22:41 sdzen           man minetest is deathly slow compiling.....
22:41 Tesseract       No, a total rewrite.
22:41 Menche          sdzen: raphael's node_ownership appears to be hosted at omploader
22:41 Menche          which appears to be dead
22:42 sdzen           oof
22:42 sdzen           I keep a copy around
22:42 sdzen           I will reupload it I guess
22:43 Menche          will the next version of minetest have biomes defined in lua so mapgen v7 can be used out of the box?
22:44 PilzAdam        Menche, no
22:44 sdzen           so whens 0.4.8 coming out?
22:44 sdzen           0.4.7 stable is already pretty out of date
22:44 Menche          why? you're releasing it with a mapgen that requires extra modding to be functional?
22:45 Tesseract       Menche: :-( At least use VanessaE's fork.
22:46 PilzAdam        Menche, because thats the point of the mapgen
22:46 PilzAdam        games can decide to use it
22:46 Menche          ...so the "official" game isn't going to decide to use a feature that is included by default
22:46 PilzAdam        because v7 isnt finished yet
22:47 PilzAdam        it will use it if v7 is finished
22:48 Menche          then hide it from the GUI world menu? some new player will download the stable, make a world with what looks like the newest mapgen available, and get stoneland
22:48 PilzAdam        they dont get stoneland if they will use pilztest
22:49 Menche          yeah, but pilztest isn't the official game
22:49 sdzen           new players do not look in the forums
22:49 sdzen           I played minetest for a good 3 months before I even glanced at it
22:49 Menche          you're including mapgenv7 while you're working on it, why not include biome definitions for it while you're working on those?
22:49 PilzAdam        Menche, there is no such thing called "official game"
22:49 PilzAdam        there is only a game developed by the core developers
22:50 sdzen           a mentality like that Pilzadam is likely to get you shot
22:50 sdzen           now pony up and say that its official
22:50 Menche          minetest_game is shipped with the official builds and is alongside the engine's repository; that's as "official" as a game can get
22:50 sdzen           otherwise remove it from the windows builds now
22:50 sdzen           NOW!
22:50 sdzen           with minimal
22:51 PilzAdam        Menche, Pilztest will probably be shipped with the official windows builds too
22:51 PilzAdam        and other games too
22:51 sdzen           how do you decide which to ship?
22:51 sdzen           will there be a contest?
22:51 Menche          so a motley bunch of seemingly unrelated games will be included by default?
22:51 sdzen           is crevis involved?
22:51 PilzAdam        Menche, why not?
22:52 PilzAdam        sdzen, basically everyone who asks
22:52 PilzAdam        its not officialy decided yet, though
22:52 sdzen           oh Pilzadam you know that cant be done in that way
22:53 PilzAdam        hm?
22:53 * Jordach       has a iso of LM15 Cinnamon
22:53 Jordach         and a dvd to burn it too
22:53 sdzen           by leaving it open to simple asking the minetest download size would become so large it would be over a gigabyte
22:55 PilzAdam        what makes you think like that?
22:55 Menche          i think it would make the best impression if there was one "official" quality, consistent game
22:55 sdzen           A better suggestion would be to direct new users towards a selection box or webpage where they can pick and choose
22:55 PilzAdam        Menche, feel free to create one
22:55 sdzen           how much have you actually thought of this Pilzadam?
22:55 PilzAdam        I tried it, it resulted in major shitstorms
22:55 Menche          one i made would be sans the "official" part
22:56 PilzAdam        Menche, who makes "official" games in a FOSS game then?
22:56 Menche          unless i could get all the core devs to recommend it, drop minetest_game, and move it alongside the engine.. HA! HA HA!
22:56 Exio4           sdzen: it is not like it is .. "add all the games around"
22:57 Exio4           it is add all the games that are "worth it"
22:57 Menche          the project that is making the game
22:57 Menche          that is the official game
22:57 sdzen           Exio4, PilzAdam: Menche, Pilztest will probably be shipped with the official windows builds too
22:57 sdzen           (06:51:07 PM) PilzAdam: and other games too
22:57 Exio4           that + common sense
22:57 sdzen           and pilzadam himself attested above
22:57 Menche          minetest_game is the official minetest game
22:57 sdzen           that asking would only be nessacary
22:57 Menche          at least i thought it was
22:58 Jordach         Suggestion: pack technic_game, minetest_game, dwarves, OCD and PilzTest
22:58 Jordach         those five games show minetest's engine
22:58 PilzAdam        Jordach, and MiniTest
22:58 Jordach         PilzAdam, yeah
22:59 Menche          minetest_game is developed by the same group as the minetest engine, is under the same github user, is bundled with official minetest builds
22:59 Menche          there should be a link or some way to download 3rd party games, but i don't think everyone and his dog should be able to have their game bundled with the official builds
23:00 VanessaE        sdzen: in building blocks, what kind of knife is it supposed to be?
23:01 PilzAdam        you do realize that therea are only very few games in the "games" forum? and that more than half of them are "dead"?
23:01 sdzen           a knife composed of tar
23:02 VanessaE        heh ok
23:04 Menche          so, there aren't many active game modes, therefore we must include all of them
23:04 sdzen           celeron55(March 26th 2012) The minetest repository will stay the same as before,  except that it will no more contain the full game. It contains the  current game content renamed as “The minimal development test”,  gameid=minimal, which will be cleaned over time and extended to  minimally test new engine features as they are developed.
23:04 PilzAdam        Menche, whats the difference between list of downloadable games and a list of already downloaded games?
23:05 sdzen           so we keep minimal, and actually use it as intended :)
23:05 sdzen           less space cluttering my disc drive Pilzy
23:05 Menche          I'm going to file a bug report with Ubuntu; they should ship Ubuntu with all the packages in the repostitories already downloaded and installed
23:06 Menche          so you don't have to download anything
23:06 Menche          plus all the PPAs in launchpad also
23:06 kahrl           Menche: including all software that will be written in the future, of course
23:06 Jordach         Menche, if you're not happy: #minetest-dev
23:06 sdzen           maybe minetest is trying to emulate slackware
23:06 Menche          that appears to be what PilzAdam is suggesting
23:07 Exio4           minetest will get some "good games" by default
23:07 Exio4           like adding a "technic one" or stuff like that
23:07 * Jordach       votes OCD
23:07 sdzen           how about minimal by default
23:07 sdzen           and actually test features on it!
23:07 Menche          what's the point of minimal anyway?
23:07 sdzen           scroll up
23:07 Exio4           nobody got it yay
23:07 sdzen           The minetest repository will stay the same as before,  except that it will no more contain the full game. It contains the  current game content renamed as “The minimal development test”,  gameid=minimal, which will be cleaned over time and extended to  minimally test new engine features as they are developed.
23:07 Menche          apparently minetest_game is what is used for testing features
23:07 sdzen           from celeron55's blog
23:07 PilzAdam        Menche, really good argument
23:07 PilzAdam        sdzen, do you know how much space one game takes?
23:07 Exio4           sdzen: "minetest_game" is the actual "default mt game"
23:08 Menche          when was the last time a new feature was added to minimal?
23:08 sdzen           Exio4, not to pilzadam
23:08 Exio4           i said *actual* pre-installed
23:08 kahrl           minimal is meant to help with git bisect
23:08 sdzen           not if your on linux Exio4
23:09 sdzen           why should it be that way on windows?
23:09 Exio4           ?
23:09 sdzen           if you download the source and compile it
23:09 Exio4           yes, ?
23:09 sdzen           is minetest_game installed?
23:09 Menche          nope
23:09 Exio4           read the README
23:09 Menche          i seem to recall bringing that up
23:09 sdzen           optional!
23:09 sdzen           bang!
23:09 sdzen           not preinstalled
23:09 sdzen           :)
23:09 Exio4           all games are "optional" in that sense..
23:09 Menche          the consensus of the "core devs" represented on irc at the time was that nothing should be preinstalled
23:10 Exio4           arg
23:10 sdzen           ding ding
23:10 sdzen           Menche you are right
23:10 Exio4           whatever, think that
23:10 Exio4           i think my english is just shitty enough for not being able to clarify myself
23:11 PilzAdam        Exio4, no, I think its sdzen and Menche not understanding that there cant be one game everyone is happy with
23:11 sdzen           then have none installed
23:11 sdzen           we know that perfectly
23:11 hdastwb         so, how long until we get a game database like the new mod database?
23:11 sdzen           haha!
23:11 Exio4           that is the 'main' idea hdastwb
23:11 sdzen           now someones talking
23:12 sdzen           at least pilzadam isn't asking for common back
23:13 Exio4           what i meant by pre-installed what was the "survival" and "creative" game were
23:13 Exio4           they are in other repository for making the commit log clear
23:14 Menche          what is minimal's reason for existence anyway?
23:14 Exio4           oh man
23:14 Exio4           whatever
23:14 Exio4           i will do other things
23:15 Jordach         minimal should be the framework for creating new games for the engine
23:15 sdzen           kahrl! reappear and tell menche again
23:15 sdzen           ding ding!
23:15 sdzen           “The minimal development test”,  gameid=minimal, which will be cleaned over time and extended to  minimally test new engine features as they are developed.
23:15 Jordach         let's face it; minimal is empty until yopu add your own content
23:15 sdzen           bringing this old blog post again
23:16 Kacey           bbl
23:18 sdzen           Minetest-c55 is one of the first InfiniMiner/Minecraft(/whatever)  inspired games (started October 2010), with a goal of taking the  survival multiplayer gameplay to a slightly different direction.  -- how about we make a gamemode centered around this?
23:19 sdzen           :)
23:20 PilzAdam_       sdzen, celerons original idea was to build upon the dungeons in Minecraft and make them more dungeon crawler like
23:20 sdzen           yep!
23:20 Exio4           how about we make a gamemode centered around this?
23:20 Exio4           -- sdzen's solution
23:21 Exio4           suddenly, there is real people to talk about and "decide" what stuff should be in the "official" game, "default", "pre-installed", the shit you may like
23:21 Exio4           if we, as community, tried to have the "game where everybody is happy"
23:21 Exio4           we wouldn't even have minimal
23:21 sdzen           it would be siht :)
23:21 sdzen           shit*
23:22 Exio4           your spelling is worse than mine
23:22 Menche          so, make minetest the universal game by taking gameplay in every possible direction at once
23:23 Octupuslegs     Is redcrab servers still up?
23:23 Menche          yep
23:23 sdzen           Menche, that seems to be happening now :)
23:23 Exio4           that would be shit, because you would have "classic" swords with laser swords, and future-like weapons
23:23 sdzen           and immortality
23:24 Exio4           plus mobs that are laggy like hell and signs that get duplicated client-sidely
23:24 sdzen           and flight
23:24 Exio4           you have flight
23:24 Menche          i think minetest should have one "official" direction to go
23:24 PilzAdam_       Octupuslegs, we still have the forum where you can look such things up
23:24 Menche          other games that do things differently are other projects
23:25 sdzen           yes
23:25 Octupuslegs     PilzAdam_: jeez i already got my answer, didnt mean to annoy anyone
23:25 PilzAdam_       hm? who is annyoed?
23:25 Menche          there should be a directory of those 3rd party projects, but the main minetest project can't attempt to do everything at once
23:25 sdzen           but there needs to be at least one game to set the stage and demonstrate
23:25 Exio4           ...
23:25 Exio4           ........................................
23:26 Menche          lets print out lines of punctuation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23:26 sdzen           Pilzadam, please be calm and civil to everyone, we don't wish to frighten guests
23:26 PilzAdam_       sdzen, what? who frightens guests?
23:26 Exio4           we got a redhat sponsored troll
23:27 Octupuslegs     Sdzen,im not a quest
23:28 PilzAdam_       did I say anything wrong?
23:28 Octupuslegs     i been on your server,before you made NotObamaLand when there was weed growing and such
23:28 Menche          Octupuslegs was around when I first started my server like over a year ago
23:28 sdzen           X( missing the point
23:29 Exio4           http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137392506516022&w=2
23:30 Octupuslegs     Yes Menche,then i been over minecraft TO LONG and then it got boring so i came back to the fun'
23:32 jin_xi          so i have luaJIT installed but want to rebuild mt without it. how do i do that?
23:33 NekoGloop       magical elven powers
23:33 sdzen           interesting question
23:33 Exio4           jin_xi: why would you want that? :P
23:33 jin_xi          helpful as ever...
23:34 sdzen           we will help all we can
23:34 sdzen           but...
23:34 Exio4           no, i'm searching for it right now; but i want to know why you would like to disable it :P
23:34 jin_xi          because it fucks my shit up
23:34 PilzAdam_       jin_xi, set LUA_INCLUDE_DIR and _LIBARY manually
23:34 Exio4           jin_xi: how?
23:35 sdzen           doesn't it mess up a very few select mods?
23:35 PilzAdam_       jin_xi, or go to src/CMakeLists.txt and comment out lines 184 to 190
23:35 Menche          it used to break with something in builtin, but that's obviously been fixed now
23:36 sdzen           I think there was something else as well
23:36 Exio4           Menche: that got fixed in the commit "when switching to luajit"
23:37 Exio4           it got fixed in the *same* commit it got supported
23:38 lordcirth       How hard would it be to get a mod included in technic_game ?
23:38 MinetestBot     GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix uninitialized irr::SEvent fields in guiFormSpecMenu.cpp 7294f28c3a 2013-08-06T16:36:19-07:00 http://git.io/KkUmIg
23:38 sdzen           because I asked someone why we didn't use just luajit, and there was a answer
23:38 sdzen           well you have to get realbadangels permission
23:38 sdzen           I could do it for you too but I am abit skitish about adding sutff
23:38 sdzen           what is it?
23:39 lordcirth       sdzen, wireless transmitters for digilines
23:40 sdzen           did you open a pull request yet?
23:40 lordcirth       sdzen, I also have a digipad, keyboard & console in a mod, but I need textures still
23:40 lordcirth       sdzen, not yet, was wondering if it would actually get looked at
23:41 PilzAdam_       Exio4, but singing arround a campfire is so much fun :-/
23:41 lordcirth       I submitted a pull request to jeija's digilines, that was 3 mo ago
23:41 iqualfragile    lordcirth: he is kind of gone, you know
23:41 hdastwb         why are you installing mods to games/minetest-game/mods/ ?
23:41 iqualfragile    nobody realy knows what happened
23:41 sdzen           I get emailed about technic daily
23:42 sdzen           so I see all the requests
23:42 sdzen           :)
23:43 Octupuslegs     i havent realized how much memories i have in redcrab
23:43 sdzen           I kinda have been shirking my job as official texture monkey of technic
23:44 lordcirth       sdzen, so how do I make a pull request to add a repo as a submodule?
23:44 sdzen           lets continue this in PM
23:45 * PilzAdam_     spotted another Kabel Deutschland user
23:50 jin_xi          PilzAdam: just so you know: if you set the paths manually to the old (non jit) files you still get "LuaJit found" message
23:50 jin_xi          thanks tho
23:50 PilzAdam        what does LuaJIT break, btw?
23:51 sdzen           it had something to do with serialization
23:51 sdzen           IIRC
23:51 PilzAdam        sdzen, no, there was a character that cant be escaped with \
23:52 jin_xi          idk why it is, but it breaks that forth thing i did in a weird way
23:52 sdzen           (07:35:46 PM) PilzAdam_: jin_xi, or go to src/CMakeLists.txt and comment out lines 184 to 190
23:52 sdzen           did you try this suggestion yet?
23:52 jin_xi          ofc
23:54 sdzen           Pilzadam I don't believe I was talking about the issue that was in the builtin.lua
23:55 sdzen           or am I forgetting things
23:55 sdzen           prolly both
23:55 PilzAdam        what?
23:56 sdzen           just forget me Pilzadam
23:56 sdzen           my mind is fried right now