| Time |
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| 00:00 |
kaeza |
will have to live with that for now :/ (or nuke the relevant code) |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
hmm... any other tips to make the server less laggy? |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
not really |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
I reduced the block send distances to minimum (and only one per client), and yet I get 15 sec lag when 3 players are on :/ |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
my connection suxxxx |
| 00:10 |
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* Jordach |
gives catnip to VanessaE's kittens |
| 00:28 |
ch98 |
has anyone found out who can help me on my mac compile? |
| 00:38 |
ShadowNinja |
ch98: Maybe talk to some of the users that have compiled for mac successfully. |
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| 00:47 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 00:47 |
ch98 |
do you know anyone who is still doing minetest? all peoples i found had last post more than month old. |
| 00:49 |
ch98 |
even people with good c++ knowledge may help if they have time to waste for almost impossible thing. |
| 00:50 |
Kacey |
i would volunteer to test but i do not run osx |
| 00:59 |
khonkhortisan |
How do I make wall stairs (on VE's server)? |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: get a regular stair into your inventory, then type /st to switch to walls mode |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
then place the stair |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
(I should extend /st to affect slabs also) |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
/st again switches back to autorotate mode. |
| 01:03 |
NoXzema |
I can program but I'm not really familiar with the facilities Minetest uses. |
| 01:03 |
NoXzema |
@ ch98 |
| 01:04 |
NoXzema |
Each time I try to do something, I get demotivated at the somewhat sloppy layout. |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: try holding sneak while you place the block |
| 01:07 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
calinou or I must have gone with that instead - /st is still defined, but it does nothing. |
| 01:08 |
* VanessaE |
is looking at the code |
| 01:09 |
khonkhortisan |
thanks |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
ah yes, that does it alright |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
glad I though to look at the code :P |
| 01:10 |
khonkhortisan |
There's a new person on your server. Shall I tell them to install an irc client to talk to you? :P |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
thought* |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
yes, I much prefer chatting here rather than on the server. |
| 01:10 |
khonkhortisan |
ok |
| 01:15 |
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* Jordach |
rebuilds minetestserver via vnc |
| 01:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, ^ |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
omg |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
ch98: uh? |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
oh |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
for OSX |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
nvm |
| 01:34 |
Jordach |
ow bitch |
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| 01:34 |
Jordach |
i just ripped a spot off of my face |
| 01:34 |
Jordach |
and bitch, it hurt |
| 01:43 |
Jordach |
yay |
| 01:43 |
Jordach |
server works |
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| 01:53 |
Jordach |
!up jordach.tk |
| 01:53 |
MinetestBot |
jordach.tk:30000 is up (606ms) |
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| 01:55 |
Jordach |
hey OldCoder |
| 01:55 |
OldCoder |
Yeh |
| 01:55 |
Jordach |
just finished setting up my minetest server |
| 01:55 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
| 01:55 |
OldCoder |
Tell us about it |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
on a vps with vnc + xfce4 |
| 01:56 |
OldCoder |
Those are decent packages |
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Jordach |
i killed the xfce instances when i was done |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
oh and |
| 01:56 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
!up jordach.tk |
| 01:56 |
MinetestBot |
jordach.tk:30000 is up (105ms) |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
its for anyone here on the IRC |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
ping me if you want any privs |
| 02:01 |
onpon4 |
Hey, I have a problem. I've got PilzAdam's Simple Mobs mod installed, but it isn't ever spawning any mobs. It seems to be some sort of conflict with one of the other mods I have installed, but it's failing silently; I've got no clues from Minetest's verbose terminal output. I have 48 mobs installed and none of them seem to be likely to cause a conflict, so it's not very practical to go through and try disabling each of them. Does anyone have any ideas fo |
| 02:01 |
onpon4 |
r how I could investigate this efficiently? |
| 02:02 |
Exio |
what game are you using? |
| 02:02 |
Exio |
er |
| 02:02 |
Exio |
version |
| 02:02 |
Exio |
(minetest engine) |
| 02:02 |
Jordach |
onpon4, is this a latest git build for the server |
| 02:03 |
onpon4 |
No, 0.4.6 stable. |
| 02:03 |
Jordach |
also: add the mods into the minetest_game folder |
| 02:03 |
Jordach |
not /mods/minetest |
| 02:03 |
Jordach |
the server does not give one fuck about that |
| 02:03 |
Exio |
hm |
| 02:04 |
Exio |
no idea what's up with the 0.4.6 stable, any info the log? |
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onpon4 |
Jordach: Why not mods/minetest? Isn't that where you're supposed to put mods for minetest-game? |
| 02:06 |
Jordach |
onpon4, thats a singleplayer dir |
| 02:06 |
Jordach |
not a server mods dir |
| 02:06 |
Jordach |
server mods go in /games/minetest_game/mods/xyz |
| 02:06 |
Jordach |
xyz being the mod folders |
| 02:06 |
onpon4 |
That's not what I've been told. |
| 02:08 |
Jordach |
onpon4, thats how it works for the latest git servers |
| 02:08 |
Jordach |
unfortunately |
| 02:08 |
onpon4 |
But anyway, that really has nothing to do with my problem even if what you're saying is true. I'm testing in single player. |
| 02:08 |
onpon4 |
And like I said, 0.4.6 stable, not latest Git. |
| 02:08 |
Jordach |
although mods installed where you have them will be global across gamemodes |
| 02:08 |
Jordach |
in 0.4.7 |
| 02:08 |
Jordach |
you just enable the ones you want |
| 02:09 |
onpon4 |
I'm pretty sure I read that the new global location is just supposed to be ~/.minetest/mods. |
| 02:09 |
Jordach |
onpon4, i prefer using a run in place build |
| 02:09 |
Jordach |
this might be a difference |
| 02:11 |
onpon4 |
But again... that's unrelated to my problem. Does anyone have any ideas what to look for? I tried Minetest's verbose terminal output; the only possibility left I can think of is to check every single mod and then wait a few minutes for a mob to spawn, and that's horribly inefficient since I have 48 mods. |
| 02:12 |
Jordach |
onpon4, theyll spawn if you know the mods were in the correct place |
| 02:13 |
onpon4 |
They do spawn if I only have mobs installed. But with all 48 mods installed, they don't spawn. |
| 02:14 |
Jordach |
that might be a bug in the engine |
| 02:14 |
Jordach |
i've seen more mods loaded, but heavy ones such as that might be a problem |
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| 02:14 |
Jordach |
depending if the hardware can take the punishment lua stacks require |
| 02:14 |
Jordach |
anyways, i need sleep |
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| 02:15 |
LoverofLand |
wassusp wassup wassup |
| 02:15 |
LoverofLand |
OldCoder may i pm you? |
| 02:17 |
onpon4 |
I'm open to the possibility of my system being too limited, but in the past, I have used an older version of Simple Mobs along with an old version of the Animals Modpack on the same system I'm using now, but on GNOME Shell instead of Xfce. |
| 02:17 |
onpon4 |
At the time, I think I had more like 60 mods installed. |
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| 02:19 |
ch98 |
does anyone know how to use send file thing on here? |
| 02:22 |
OldCoder |
LoverofLand, Sure |
| 02:28 |
ShadowNinja |
ch98: It is disabled. |
| 02:29 |
ch98 |
oh, well |
| 02:30 |
ch98 |
I was thinking of debugging mod over irc |
| 02:30 |
ShadowNinja |
ch98: Join my network. :-) |
| 02:31 |
ShadowNinja |
inchra.net and webchat.inchra.net |
| 02:36 |
ch98 |
shadowninja, what is the channel? |
| 02:37 |
ShadowNinja |
ch98: #InchraNet |
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| 02:41 |
LoverofLand |
hey Gambit |
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| 02:48 |
LoverofLand |
hi VanessaE |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 02:50 |
LoverofLand |
i didnt know starblessed was on irc lol |
| 02:50 |
LoverofLand |
i think he quitted making his videos |
| 02:50 |
LoverofLand |
how have you been VanessaE |
| 02:51 |
* VanessaE |
wonders who LoverofLand is |
| 02:51 |
LoverofLand |
isnt it obvious? |
| 02:52 |
LoverofLand |
i am he who loves land |
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| 03:04 |
arsdragonfly |
onpon4 :have you tried to test the conflicts by binary searching? |
| 03:04 |
arsdragonfly |
E.g. disable half of the mods |
| 03:05 |
arsdragonfly |
If it works fine,the problem must be in the other half |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
jeez! 22.2 GB virtual on my server now from /clearobjects |
| 03:05 |
onpon4 |
arsdragonfly: Hm, no, I haven't tried that. That's a great idea, actually. Thanks! |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
(of which almost 8 is in swap) |
| 03:07 |
Exio |
good for you (?) |
| 03:07 |
arsdragonfly |
VanessaE is that command from worldedit? |
| 03:08 |
Exio |
it is only 8 and not 16 |
| 03:08 |
Exio |
:P |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
11.7GB of swap used now. |
| 03:10 |
ShadowNinja |
Not only do you have a lot of RAM, you also have a big swap. |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
I'm about to add 16GB more swap just so this can finish gracefully. |
| 03:11 |
ShadowNinja |
If it doesn't a forkbomb won't seem so bad. ;-) |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:13 |
ShadowNinja |
But seriously, it should only load a few blocks at a time. |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
it loads the entire map. |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
afaik. |
| 03:13 |
ShadowNinja |
It doesn't even clean up afterwards. |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 03:13 |
Exio |
that would be the fix for that |
| 03:14 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes, but it shouldn't. Convert one block at a time. |
| 03:14 |
Exio |
i didn't get what you said |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
which part? |
| 03:15 |
Exio |
"yes but it shouldn't" |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
yes, it loads the whole map, but in an ideal situation, it shouldn't do that. |
| 03:15 |
ShadowNinja |
Load block a, clear block a, unload block a, load block b... Yes it ..^ |
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| 03:16 |
Exio |
yep |
| 03:16 |
Exio |
now code it >:D |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
load block N, clear it, check regular serer's list of known-loaded blocks, if not in that list, unload block N, repeat. |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
server's |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
(that way the regular stuff that players are "using" remains loaded) |
| 03:17 |
Exio |
i would make it multithreaded and even more complicated |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
multithreaded for sure, but more complicated how? |
| 03:18 |
Exio |
because the clearobjects would run in other threads, but keeping the server "working" |
| 03:18 |
ShadowNinja |
I will look at that code, but I don't think I have the experience to fix it. |
| 03:18 |
Exio |
the problem is; if i can make it in that it would be painfully buggy :P |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
there we go, 32GB of swap is enabled. |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
that's 48GB of total "memory". let's see MT fill THAT up. |
| 03:19 |
Exio |
12gb ram + 16gb swap here |
| 03:19 |
* Exio |
needs more money |
| 03:20 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Enabled? It sounds like you ran swapsize 32 |
| 03:20 |
ShadowNinja |
How do you have swap set up? |
| 03:20 |
ShadowNinja |
Of course the SSD will help... |
| 03:21 |
Exio |
i guess she just enabled other 16gb swap file |
| 03:21 |
Exio |
enabled = swapon |
| 03:21 |
Exio |
swap file = dd; mkfs.swap |
| 03:21 |
Exio |
or mkswap, or w/e |
| 03:22 |
Exio |
i don't recall the command atm :P |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
just two swapfiles, on the only drive that has enough free space (my mass storage drive) |
| 03:23 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, I recall a windows 7 feature being swap on a flash drive to make your computer "faster". I failed to see how that would work. |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
this is linux. |
| 03:24 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes, I know... |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
2756 minetest 20 0 26.1g 13g 2592 S 4.9 83.8 49:13.93 minetestserver |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
hoo! |
| 03:24 |
Exio |
yay |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
ok, time to tempt fate, let's see if I can sign in |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
nope, still not finished. |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
it peaked at 14GB resident, now it's down to 12, but not responding to connections yet |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
and the hard disk is thrashing like a wild pig |
| 03:28 |
ShadowNinja |
Does it load the the map and then convert or convert while it loads? |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
not sure |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 03:37 |
arsdragonfly |
VanessaE is thay swap on a SSD? |
| 03:39 |
Exio |
she left for a bit |
| 03:41 |
arsdragonfly |
nvm i got it |
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VanessaE |
finally finished, after peaking at 22.5 Gb of memory used. |
| 06:01 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 06:02 |
sfan5 |
why do you people have so much ram? |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
having lots of RAM allows a machine to do things faster with the same data set. |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
in my case, it makes it trivial to handle the huge texture packs i use |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
plus, there's that ^^^^ issue :) |
| 06:06 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
| 06:06 |
* sfan5 |
only has 4GB ram |
| 06:06 |
sfan5 |
sometimes that is not enough for playing MC on a server |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
if MT's memory usage wasn't so G*d awful insane, I'd probably still be at 4GB also. |
| 06:08 |
* sfan5 |
loves MT's memory usage |
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VanessaE |
ok, I'm off to bed |
| 06:27 |
VanessaE |
night |
| 06:29 |
sfan5 |
night |
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| 06:41 |
markveidemanis |
Hello |
| 06:41 |
markveidemanis |
Does anyone have a copy of the mail mod? |
| 06:46 |
ch98 |
was it blanked out? |
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markveidemanis |
ch98: ompldr is down |
| 06:50 |
ch98 |
sorry but last time anyone asked for copy of mod, there post was blanked out. |
| 06:50 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 06:50 |
sfan5 |
thats why nobody use omploader only |
| 06:51 |
markveidemanis |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3285 This one. right? |
| 06:52 |
ch98 |
can someone copy mods of every thingle mod to relyable place? |
| 06:52 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 06:53 |
markveidemanis |
Got a frog in your throat? :) |
| 06:53 |
markveidemanis |
s/thingle/single ? |
| 06:53 |
khonkhortisan |
I thpeak width ah lithpe |
| 06:53 |
khonkhortisan |
reliable |
| 06:55 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm not familiar with node_ownership, but I'm going to attempt to get technic's frames (and other things like node diggers) to respect node_ownership. It'll have to be done so it works if that's not installed, and I remember there being a competiter ownership mod, and possibly a third that combines functions from both. |
| 06:55 |
khonkhortisan |
To start with, frames wouldn't work even in your area, as they can't be locked like chests can |
| 06:56 |
khonkhortisan |
Or maybe I could make them not cross ownership boundries |
| 06:57 |
markveidemanis |
or not able to be placed in a range |
| 06:57 |
khonkhortisan |
range from what? |
| 06:58 |
markveidemanis |
but thats not safe, anyone can make a flying aircraft |
| 07:00 |
khonkhortisan |
that's what happened, it dropped pumice |
| 07:01 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 07:01 |
markveidemanis |
whats pumice got to do with anything |
| 07:03 |
markveidemanis |
How does a mesecon torch work? |
| 07:03 |
markveidemanis |
sorry for noob moment but i seriously forgot ^^ |
| 07:06 |
markveidemanis |
khonkhortisan please join my server |
| 07:10 |
khonkhortisan |
/spawnplz crash |
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markveidemanis |
khonkhortisan: http://i.imgur.com/TArEFr9.jpg |
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markveidemanis |
StarBlessed, are you any good at building? |
| 07:49 |
StarBlessed |
Im ok, whys that |
| 07:50 |
markveidemanis |
Can you join my server? |
| 07:51 |
markveidemanis |
http://i.imgur.com/TArEFr9.jpg Heres the plan |
| 07:51 |
StarBlessed |
Hang on |
| 07:51 |
markveidemanis |
sorry, no scanner |
| 07:51 |
markveidemanis |
best i could do |
| 07:52 |
markveidemanis |
Ive made this before and i didnt have all the materials i have now so out of habit i just use brick and cobble |
| 07:52 |
markveidemanis |
Can you help me use more materials? |
| 07:53 |
markveidemanis |
Im going for function over realism |
| 07:53 |
markveidemanis |
But still realistic and architecturally accurate |
| 07:55 |
StarBlessed |
ok |
| 07:55 |
StarBlessed |
one minute |
| 08:01 |
MinetestBot |
john_minetest: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-06-01 18:27:34 UTC on #minetest |
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| 08:19 |
Issa |
Hello |
| 08:19 |
Issa |
sfan5, |
| 08:19 |
Issa |
i m looking u build |
| 08:20 |
Issa |
here ---> http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ |
| 08:20 |
Issa |
bue i think u need to add date for the build |
| 08:20 |
Issa |
like this |
| 08:20 |
Issa |
| Date release | name release | |
| 08:20 |
Issa |
because now how identify the bug fix on u release please ? |
| 08:24 |
Issa |
sfan5, cool u using a texture pack |
| 08:24 |
sfan5 |
Issa: what? |
| 08:24 |
sfan5 |
you can see the date by looking up the commit hash on github |
| 08:24 |
Issa |
sfan5, on this page --> http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ |
| 08:25 |
Issa |
how that 's work |
| 08:25 |
Issa |
git hub |
| 08:26 |
Issa |
sorry i need to go see u later |
| 08:27 |
arsdragonfly |
sfan5:how? i thought that hash is just something meaningless: -( |
| 08:28 |
sfan5 |
arsdragonfly: it is meaningless |
| 08:28 |
sfan5 |
but it is unique per commit |
| 08:29 |
arsdragonfly |
does it imply the commit date? |
| 08:29 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 08:29 |
sfan5 |
but the commit date is saved |
| 08:29 |
sfan5 |
just go into any git repo and type "git log" |
| 08:29 |
arsdragonfly |
ok |
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thexyz |
well, fuck |
| 08:40 |
thexyz |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MtsPppBQ |
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thexyz |
of course, I know that's because I fucked up shapeless recipe, but the error message is useless |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
thexyz try to print the debug stack maybe? |
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thexyz |
how's that? http://i.imgur.com/4NSBTkZ.png |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: that looks really nice |
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markveidemanis |
Aqua |
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markveidemanis |
Can i have a copy of your mailbox? |
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Aqua___ |
Oh Hi! |
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Aqua___ |
@markveidamis: isn't it on the forums? |
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Aqua___ |
Hello |
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markveidemanis |
no ompldr is down |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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thexyz |
are there any mods that use lua hud? |
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markveidemanis |
kaeza-misc |
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thexyz |
but that's just a mod to test new features |
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thexyz |
that's quite sad |
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thexyz |
i-it's not like i'm implying that's because there's no mention of hud on wiki |
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Jordach |
morning all |
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* Jordach |
gives sfan5 a kitty |
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sfan5 |
meow |
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Jordach |
anyways, gtg |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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arsdragonfly |
Hi |
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sfan5 |
the github web interface can't view .bmp images :O |
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Mati^1 |
hi |
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Gambit |
.bmp is a dead format |
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* Mati^1 |
wer is RBA RealBadAngel?? |
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svuorela |
hmm... can I add mods to existing 'survival' worlds ? |
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svuorela, yes, put them into mods/survival instead of mods/minetest |
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harrison |
riddle: How is a migraine different from anything? |
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Zeg9 |
I got the answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ehHOwmQRxU |
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harrison |
wrong |
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harrison |
A: Doing so makes the pain worse |
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Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93031#p93031 |
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sweetbomber |
whats up with github? keeps giving me err 500 or "This page is taking too long to load".. |
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Zeg9 |
Seems its back, sweetbomber |
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sweetbomber |
yup, it got some problems: https://status.github.com/ |
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sweetbomber |
but is recovering |
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thexyz |
http://i.imgur.com/hhAk7NE.png |
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Kacey |
brb |
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Calinou |
minetest-delta: "dead since 2011"® |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
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harrison |
® lol |
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Exio |
hi VanessaE! |
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harrison |
good use of utf |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: homedecor has a function you may want to borrow that checks for ownership from two different mods (in init.lua) |
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Exio |
did clearobjects finish? |
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VanessaE |
Exio: yep, it peaked at 22.5 GB total memory; and just my luck, kahrl released a probable fix for it a couple hours ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/746 |
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Calinou |
^ why VanessaE upgrades their RAM :P |
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Calinou |
still not enough >:D |
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thexyz |
meh |
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thexyz |
ram is cheap |
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thexyz |
it's 2013 |
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thexyz |
anything below 64gb is not acceptable |
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Calinou |
yeah, but > 8GB isn't actually useful unless you do video editing or stuff like that |
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Calinou |
S1555 mobos can't even handle 64GB, only S2011 |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: or you run a monster texture pack like HDX :P |
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Calinou |
and AM3+ mobos can't either |
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Exio |
my mobo can only handle 32gb |
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Exio |
(am3+, yes) |
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thexyz |
well, i guess, 32gb is fine |
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Calinou |
there are no 16GB RAM sticks, no AM3/1155 mobo has 8 RAM slots |
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Calinou |
8GB sticks are fairly new already (early 2012) :P |
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VanessaE |
16GB is the max on mine |
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Jordach |
lol |
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proller |
how to use junglegrass? why it defined in farming and default mod? |
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Calinou |
with DDR2 you're usually limited at 8GB |
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Exio |
if not, you would have the max too, no VanessaE? |
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Calinou |
(max stick size is 2GB, afaik) |
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VanessaE |
proller: farming doesn't define grass? |
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thexyz |
wait, who uses ddr2? |
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VanessaE |
Exio: no, probably not. |
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proller |
it defune :default:jungle.. |
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Calinou |
thexyz: people with older PCs? :P |
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* VanessaE |
pokes PilzAdam |
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thexyz |
they usually don't run /clearobjects on huge maps though |
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proller |
and defualt define default:jungle.. |
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Exio |
my old 2002 desktop only has 256+128 mb of DDR1 ram :( |
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Exio |
:P |
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proller |
on map - junglegrass without drop |
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VanessaE |
thexyz: define "huge" |
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Kacey |
brb again |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: non-singleplayer |
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VanessaE |
wow, 992 MB on my map already |
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VanessaE |
(guess I was off just a bit ;) ) |
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Jordach |
anyone wanna play minetest with me |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
who the bloody hell would play with YOU? ;) |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
classy VanessaE |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, since i went to vista, im averaging 40fps with graphics on full + OpenGL |
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VanessaE |
versus what in linux? |
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Jordach |
this is a PilzAdam JIT build |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, same tower |
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Calinou |
Jordach is no longer using linux? :( |
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Jordach |
my server is linux though |
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thexyz |
vista? |
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sergio_teula |
Hello? |
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sergio_teula |
I can't start the game |
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sergio_teula |
What can I do? |
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Jordach |
by fixing the problem |
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thexyz |
sergio_teula: what error does it give? |
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sergio_teula |
It crash when I start the exe file |
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Jordach |
sergio_teula, youre missing the microsoft visual c++ 2010 redist |
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Jordach |
!g msvc 2010 redist |
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MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555 |
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sergio_teula |
Thank you very much!! |
| 16:04 |
sergio_teula |
I'm going to try |
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Jordach |
that should be the droid youre looking fir |
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sergio_teula |
It says that I have a newer version |
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Jordach |
sergio_teula, hm |
| 16:05 |
sergio_teula |
And I can't install it |
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sergio_teula |
I'm using Windows 8 |
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Jordach |
sergio_teula, AH |
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Jordach |
are you using Microsoft Surface or a ARM Tablet |
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sergio_teula |
No no!! |
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sergio_teula |
It's an x64 cpu |
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sergio_teula |
It's a laptop |
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Jordach |
no idea |
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thexyz |
sergio_teula: is there a debug.txt? |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #103 from Novatux/globalstep ddcdc74fd3 2013-06-02T09:08:20-07:00 http://git.io/NJaWyg |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Change mesecons signals so that they update effectors only after a globalstep, configurable to be on/off 62a8ae240c 2013-06-01T10:06:31-07:00 http://git.io/cFg9GQ |
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sergio_teula |
No, because it doesn't start |
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sergio_teula |
It crashes when the cmd window appears |
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thexyz |
with nothing written in it? |
| 16:14 |
sergio_teula |
I solved the problem. I tried PilzAdam's version and it works |
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sergio_teula |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 |
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Jordach |
AHA |
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Jordach |
its the DirectX bug |
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sergio_teula |
And if I update DirectX? |
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Jordach |
directx is only updatable by the version of windows |
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Exio |
Jordach: and gpu |
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Jordach |
Exio, sort of |
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Exio |
i don't have directx anyway :( |
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sergio_teula |
thank you for everything!! |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, there should be a use for bones |
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Calinou |
there is, storing items of dead players |
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Calinou |
do you want "super bone blocks"? :> |
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Jordach |
other than that |
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VanessaE |
G*D NO. Give it a use and you end up with shit that depends on it. |
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Jordach |
hey Calinou wanna test the mines |
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Calinou |
inb4 bone tools, bone sticks |
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Calinou |
the mines? |
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Jordach |
.tk |
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Jordach |
huh |
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Jordach |
Jordach|.tk <- is a xchat should see |
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Jordach |
interesting bug: grass doesnt grow when a flower is on it |
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Zeg9 |
What about a bone mug |
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Zeg9 |
First you have to extract the skull from the bones. Then you put something in it. |
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* Jordach |
freaks out |
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* Jordach |
wonders how zeg's item frames work |
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Zeg9 |
It registers one node for every item |
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Jordach |
as in the 3d models |
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Zeg9 |
Actually it uses an entity, with the "wieldview" visual |
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Jordach |
oh |
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MinerofLands |
wasssup peeps |
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* Jordach |
sits down |
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Jordach |
sup LM |
| 16:41 |
MinerofLands |
sup |
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MinerofLands |
just chillin |
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MinerofLands |
you? |
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Jordach |
im playing with 8px packs again |
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Jordach |
and making my renders |
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MinerofLands |
nice...lol those renders are cool |
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* Zeg9 |
hates this entity duplication bug. |
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MinerofLands |
any of you play MTA? |
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MinerofLands |
multi theft auto? |
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MinerofLands |
i have a mta:dayz server lol |
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markveidemanis |
I have a simple mod request |
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markveidemanis |
You enter a players name and you can access their inventory |
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markveidemanis |
more for admins |
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* Calinou |
got trolled |
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Calinou |
le me translates stuntrally |
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Calinou |
"Shaders Used in minetest in Minetest trunk by Calinou on 2013-02-09" |
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MinerofLands |
so funny |
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Calinou |
hello landmine |
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MinerofLands |
hey |
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Zeg9 |
markveidemanis: I have this mod |
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markveidemanis |
really? |
| 17:05 |
Zeg9 |
Yep. I don't know if it still works. |
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Zeg9 |
Require inventory plus |
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markveidemanis |
okay, link plz |
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Zeg9 |
let me upload... |
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markveidemanis |
Zeg9, can you also help me with something on my server? |
| 17:08 |
Zeg9 |
https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-invsee |
| 17:08 |
Zeg9 |
depends |
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markveidemanis |
just see? |
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markveidemanis |
its with worldedit |
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Zeg9 |
coming |
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MinerofLands |
nice i just found a 4gb ram vps for 15 bucks "D |
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markveidemanis |
i used worldedit stack the wrong way |
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markveidemanis |
stack x instead of stack -x |
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Jordach |
MinerofLands, JESUS |
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Jordach |
thats like finding diamond at ground level |
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Zeg9 |
mark, please test this mod :p |
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MinerofLands |
lol...i dont know it that is a positive comment jordach heh |
| 17:09 |
MinerofLands |
ill still look around for some others |
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Jordach |
i've seen a free VPS with 1gb of ram |
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markveidemanis |
Zeg9, but can you regenerate my map in the meantime |
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Zeg9 |
how would I do that? |
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markveidemanis |
worldedit |
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Zeg9 |
also my client crashed when I tried to join. |
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markveidemanis |
the basics are there |
| 17:10 |
markveidemanis |
but you need to replace the walls |
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VanessaE |
oh G*d mesh generation has gotten SLOW |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: where? |
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ch98 |
is it ok and legal to download all mods and copy all mod front pages then put it in some other website? |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
ch98: as long as you give proper attribution, yes |
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Exio |
VanessaE: "when"? |
| 18:08 |
Exio |
(and what exactly?) |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
actually it's just mesecons pistons that seem to be the problem |
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VanessaE |
already filed an issue about it. |
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ch98 |
thank you. |
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Zeg9 |
by going on kaeza's server, I understood what was the dandelion problem... Seems I don't have this bug on my singleplayer |
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Kacey |
bbl |
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VanessaE |
PilzAdam: *poke* |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
crappy wifi here :-( |
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VanessaE |
can't be as bad as kaeza's wifi |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
it's 2:36 Mon here now |
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arsdragonfly |
still hasn't finished my homework yet |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
VanessaE I ignored all the join/quit messages :-P |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
still hasn't finished my homework yet and i'm tired of this |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot: reload rutils |
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MinetestBot |
SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xc2' in file /home/user/mtbot/modules/rutils.py on line 219, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/rutils.py", line 219) |
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sfan5 |
:/ |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot: reload rutils |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/rutils.py'> (version: 2013-06-02 18:46:58) |
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sfan5 |
!regex (.{1,2})°some text! |
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MinetestBot |
true groups=['\xb0s', 'om', 'e ', 'te', 'xt', '!'] |
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sfan5 |
!regex (.{1,2})°some text! |
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MinetestBot |
true groups=['\xb0s', 'om', 'e ', 'te', 'xt', '!'] |
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sfan5 |
o.O |
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VanessaE |
? |
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sfan5 |
!regex (.{1,2})°some text! |
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MinetestBot |
true groups=['\xb0s', 'om', 'e ', 'te', 'xt', '!'] |
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sfan5 |
this is weird |
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sfan5 |
!regex |
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sfan5 |
!regex |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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VanessaE |
MinetestBot, you suck! |
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VanessaE |
;D |
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kaeza |
greetings |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
hey |
| 18:52 |
kahrl |
trying to join kaeza's server crashed minetest |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: that happens with everyone and most servers now. |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
trymine |
| 18:52 |
kaeza |
hm? |
| 18:52 |
kaeza |
^ shameless plug |
| 18:53 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
you'll be lucky to get the spawn to load :) |
| 18:53 |
kahrl |
it usually doesn't happen when I try it |
| 18:53 |
kahrl |
but I don't try often |
| 18:53 |
kahrl |
actually, it never happened during the last week other than just now |
| 18:53 |
kahrl |
last few weeks* |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
it happens frequently on mine |
| 18:54 |
kahrl |
that should be fixed before 0.4.7 is released |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
something to do with the initial building of meshes I guess |
| 18:54 |
kaeza |
kahrl, has this anything to do with it? http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-01#i_3116053 |
| 18:54 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot: reload rutils |
| 18:54 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/rutils.py'> (version: 2013-06-02 18:56:00) |
| 18:55 |
sfan5 |
!regex (.{1,3})`some text |
| 18:55 |
MinetestBot |
true groups=['som', 'e t', 'ext'] |
| 18:55 |
kahrl |
kaeza: I didn't see that error when it crashed |
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kaeza |
hey kopimese |
| 18:57 |
kopimese |
hi kaeza |
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| 18:58 |
kopimese |
Where do you go to find the in-game feed? |
| 18:58 |
kahrl |
thank you for not crashing when I run it under gdb >.> |
| 18:59 |
kaeza |
heh |
| 18:59 |
kaeza |
kopimese, explain |
| 18:59 |
kopimese |
lol.. ah... nm I figured it out.. |
| 18:59 |
kopimese |
dero |
| 19:00 |
kopimese |
derp* |
| 19:05 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: here's the relevant error from last time I got that crash: http://pastebin.com/4ctZUC2v |
| 19:05 |
VanessaE |
if it helps any. |
| 19:06 |
VanessaE |
that was a login-wait-server_world_appears-immediate_crash |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
kahrl, hence the name "debug build" |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
it removes bugs |
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| 19:10 |
Calinou |
PSA: candy box now has a favicon |
| 19:12 |
kahrl |
Calinou: heh I wish it were that easy |
| 19:12 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: I think that's an unrelated bug, but it should be fixed too |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
good luck with that :D |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
we only have, what, 24 hours left? |
| 19:16 |
kahrl |
5 actually |
| 19:16 |
kahrl |
but I will probably have to extend it |
| 19:16 |
VanessaE |
even worse |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
imho, anything less than 2-3 weeks is too short for a feature freeze |
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| 19:18 |
kahrl |
I think that would be too long but 2 days is definitely too short |
| 19:18 |
kahrl |
especially when only 1 dev is online on day 2 ;) |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
maybe 10 days then. that seems like a reasonable compromise |
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| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 19:19 |
kahrl |
well, actually sfan5 commented on #746 |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
10 days seems ok, +1 |
| 19:21 |
kahrl |
we aren't talking about a normal feature freeze here though |
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| 19:21 |
Exio |
why not kahrl? :P |
| 19:21 |
kahrl |
the last version, 0.4.6, is horrible and really old |
| 19:21 |
kahrl |
so the goal is to make 0.4.7 as soon as possible but not in a way that makes it horrible and rushed |
| 19:21 |
Exio |
well, yeah |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
why aren't we discussing this on #minetest-dev ? |
| 19:23 |
kahrl |
sfan5: because it started here ;) |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
so, if the lua main menu is not merged for 0.4.7, I'd like to have my "allow entering a seed in the world create menu" pull merged |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
put the formspec menu in first |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
then add the seed field to it. |
| 19:25 |
Exio |
it is a feature; feature freeze in effect |
| 19:25 |
Exio |
and what VanessaE said |
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| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: Ultimately, I'd like for the game to generate a low-resolution low-detail overview map for the first few mapblocks surrounding 0,0,0, corresponding to the given seed. |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
(see for example, the preview map in Micropolis) |
| 19:28 |
sfan5 |
<VanessaE> then add the seed field to it. |
| 19:28 |
sfan5 |
^ would work if sha1 would be available to lua |
| 19:30 |
sfan5 |
my world seed branch just converts the first four bytes to a u64 and writes it to map_meta.txt |
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| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
why would you need sha1 just to use a seed? |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
because its a random entry |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
or, feels like one |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
we're talking about map seeds here, not high-end web security |
| 19:35 |
Exio |
never gonna give you up (m) |
| 19:36 |
Exio |
sfan5: implement it like you did |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
/kill Exio |
| 19:36 |
Exio |
VanessaE: never gonna let you down |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
/kill Exio --with_fire |
| 19:36 |
Exio |
never gonna run around and desert around |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
hah, you blew it. |
| 19:36 |
Exio |
never gonna make you cry, never gonna say good bye :D |
| 19:36 |
Exio |
er |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
Exio: you cannot do thing like "local i = (u64)hash" in lua |
| 19:37 |
Exio |
desert you |
| 19:37 |
Exio |
sfan5: i don't know lua a lot |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: you have access to sufficient perlin functions to generate a reasonable approximation map of a world, so why not just directly use whatever numbers are plugged in by the user? And if they plug in something alphanumeric, then use the ASCII values of the non-hexanumeric characters |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
(just brainstorming, I'm not trying to suggest that you should be the one to code the map overview) |
| 19:42 |
Exio |
kahrl: what is the ip of your server? |
| 19:42 |
Exio |
err |
| 19:42 |
Exio |
kaeza: * |
| 19:42 |
Exio |
"ka[tab]" |
| 19:42 |
Exio |
sry :P |
| 19:42 |
kaeza |
!up kaeza.mooo.com |
| 19:42 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (269ms) |
| 19:43 |
kaeza |
(also, 2nd entry in serv list :D) |
| 19:43 |
kaeza |
Exio, ^ |
| 19:44 |
Exio |
kk |
| 19:44 |
Calinou |
kaeza, entries are sorted by amount of players :P |
| 19:44 |
kaeza |
IK |
| 19:44 |
kaeza |
this morning it was 1st |
| 19:45 |
kaeza |
8 players :O |
| 19:45 |
Exio |
where do you run it? lol |
| 19:45 |
kaeza |
on a VPS |
| 19:45 |
Calinou |
meh, you're still far away from wazu |
| 19:46 |
kaeza |
I can't possibly run this from home on my shitty connection |
| 19:46 |
Calinou |
not wazu, it was that gigabit thingy |
| 19:46 |
Calinou |
212 players :> |
| 19:46 |
Calinou |
kaeza, shitty connection master race |
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| 19:48 |
BlockMen |
could some forum moderator take care of that? -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6165 |
| 19:49 |
kaeza |
"Gamerz 1 Za Xd networks network Change from one to ten, there are 10 network 1yerini welcome to come" <-- thanks Google |
| 19:54 |
BlockMen |
kaeza, aha. now it breaks two rules. spam and not english |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
done |
| 19:56 |
jin_xi |
BlockMen: next time report it pls instead of posting here |
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| 19:58 |
BlockMen |
jin_xi, well, it is reporting when telling a moderator here... |
| 19:59 |
jin_xi |
plus a dead link in the log |
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| 20:01 |
BlockMen |
jin_xi, how terrible. and idc if there are ppl who think they should click every link in log |
| 20:02 |
jin_xi |
just saying there is a report feature in the forum, use it when appropriate |
| 20:05 |
BlockMen |
i know there is... |
| 20:07 |
kaeza |
why care so much about dead links in the logs? and posting here is sometimes faster than reporting. |
| 20:13 |
BlockMen |
bbl |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
good night |
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| 20:18 |
kaeza |
night sfan |
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| 20:19 |
STHGOM |
103 total users on this channel :D |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
and 95% of them are idle :) |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
#ubuntu has more :3 |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: what's the word on you re-enabling stacking of slabs to make thicker slabs? |
| 20:21 |
svuorela |
so. I have desert stone, obsidian and various other bits. what can I do with such things? |
| 20:21 |
thexyz |
Calinou: b-but ooboontoo sucks while minetest doesn't |
| 20:22 |
VanessaE |
svuorela: build with them. |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
theres not Calinou in |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
#ubuntu* |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
Calinou puts the U in Uubuntu |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
-u |
| 20:22 |
jin_xi |
no u? |
| 20:22 |
kaeza |
#ubuntu*: No such channel :( |
| 20:22 |
VanessaE |
I thought he took the u's out? |
| 20:22 |
svuorela |
VanessaE: oh. I was hoping for something more exciting |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, +1, but again, I have no idea how to use facedirs in general |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: same as before |
| 20:23 |
Exio |
[17:20:25] <VanessaE> and 95% of them are idle :) |
| 20:23 |
Exio |
hey, 95%! |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
merging normal slabs doesn't require accounting for facedir, but for quarter slabs, it does |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: yooouu can dooo eeet! :) |
| 20:23 |
Exio |
what about the people what speaks only 10 lines per day here |
| 20:23 |
Exio |
do they count as idler? |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
i |
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Jordach |
speak |
| 20:24 |
* bcnjr5 |
is not idle. |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
more |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
than |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
who speaks 10 lines per day on an IRC channel? |
| 20:24 |
VanessaE |
Exio: no, they're less idle ;) |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
except landmine :3 |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
ten |
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* Calinou |
applauses |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
lines |
| 20:24 |
Exio |
gj |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
</sarcasm> |
| 20:24 |
Exio |
Calinou: sounds like me |
| 20:24 |
Exio |
in average since i'm here, it is probably less |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
ShadowBot, your mother was a trash compactor |
| 20:25 |
bcnjr5 |
lol |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
"Hy laser-lips! Your momma was a snowblowers!" |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
Hey* |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
damn it. |
| 20:26 |
* Jordach |
had a theory |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
"Hey laser-lips! Your momma was a snowblower!" |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
I wonder if UTF-9 newlines cause spam |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
8* |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
probably. |
| 20:26 |
* Calinou |
now has 1709 HP in candy box and 55 candies/sec |
| 20:26 |
Exio |
utf-1337 |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
or just use RTL alternation |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
next upgrade: 79210klp |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
this is gonna take a while 8) |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: stop playing that silly game, you've got some coding to do :P |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
hold on |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
i dont think ShadowBot is parallel |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
if were to have TWO nicks at once spam lines |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, you don't play candy box, you keep it open in your browser and do other things :P |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
(besides, with slabs, just use the same old 6 facedirs you used before, no one's gonna give two shits if they get rotated on re-stack :) ) |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
ah, ok |
| 20:28 |
kaeza |
Yeah, Calinou should code a Lollipop farm for Minetest |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
at the same time on the same server, it should only kick one |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
I left all the code in place, it's just commented-out |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
it can cause textures to be rotated but usually that isn't important |
| 20:28 |
* Calinou |
would like to see facedir_fixed_texture paramtype |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
so you might be able to just re-enable it and directly hook into it inside near the end of the rotate_and_place() function |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: +1000 -- mention it in -dev |
| 20:29 |
kaeza |
^ this |
| 20:30 |
Exio |
code it |
| 20:31 |
Exio |
>:D |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
Calinou actually code something useful |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
YEAH RIGHT |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
now now. |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: cotton mod needs an update to comply with the latest unified dyes :) |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
fuck that |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
<- doesnt care |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
yeah, you should make awesome mods like Exio |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
:trollface: |
| 20:33 |
kaeza |
woops |
| 20:34 |
kaeza |
C-c instead of C-a C-d |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: pweeze? |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, teach a man to code and he can pay for himself |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
teach a woman how to code and she'll say your patronising and says she knew it anyways |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
teach an intel employee to code and they do marketing instead |
| 20:35 |
VanessaE |
what, I'm not allowed to be too lazy? :) |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, im joking |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
and teach an AMD employee and they lie about fixing bugs |
| 20:35 |
khonkhortisan |
How do I make a world always load all mods? |
| 20:35 |
khonkhortisan |
remove world.mt? |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
by putting them into the game folder |
| 20:35 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: the only changes are light red is now pink, black/white/greys are now named as dyes rather than paint/carbon black |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
ehm, no |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
No, I get load_mod_skins = false |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
fuck that |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
khonkhortisan, place the mod into the game folder |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
Any new mod automatically doesn't load |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
bleh |
| 20:36 |
* VanessaE |
is sad now :( |
| 20:36 |
Exio |
Jordach: that won't work |
| 20:36 |
Exio |
the mod "loading" changed, a bit |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i see no use for cotton |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: the texture of the surface is different than any other material, even wool, and there are far more colors. |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
that's what the use is |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
though that said, I don't have that mod on my server anymore :-/ |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, fix it yourself |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
(not for a long while, it was removed while trying to trim down the number of defined nodes) |
| 20:38 |
Jordach |
later all |
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| 20:42 |
Calinou |
while we're talking about textures, it would be even nicer if the textures of the nodes were automagically chosen based on their name; eg. instead of "default_tree.top.png","default_tree.png", you just put "default_tree.png", the game looks for "default_tree_top.png" automagically, and does so for "bottom", "tb" (top+bottom), left/right/front/back/sides (left + right)/fb (front + back), and so on... |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
so that texture packs can... well, do more stuff |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
and it would make the code more compact :P |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
that is doable |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
but is that wanted? |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
it would also allow for modders to add textures on some sides of nodes without editing the code, good for testing around |
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Calinou |
kaeza, what do you mean by "wanted"? we could always keep compatibility code around |
| 20:43 |
kaeza |
would there be any bad side effects? |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
I dunno |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
Calinou, see my patch to use node_box as selection_box |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
it's that easy |
| 20:44 |
VanessaE |
well, realbadangel already has code in place that will take foo.xxx and look for foo_normal.png and foo_specular.png |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
well, not that easu |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
-u+y |
| 20:45 |
kaeza |
STUPID KEYBOARD WITH NO LABELS |
| 20:46 |
kaeza |
W-A-S-D were the first labels gone, I wonder why :3 |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 20:46 |
khonkhortisan |
A good keyboarder needs no labels |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
A S E C N and M (in that order) are the ones going on mine. |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
well, and L and W also. |
| 20:47 |
MinerofLands |
hi bcnjr5 |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
none of my labels are gone |
| 20:48 |
* Calinou |
turns off their keyboard's backlight most of the time |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
it's 3 years old and still working fine (well, fortunately :P) |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
I had an old IBM keyboard, 10 or 15 yrs old |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
kaeza, too much quake :3 |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
still working ok |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
on my old laptop, the "Z" (azerty) key is completely destroyed |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
same for the "up" arrow |
| 20:49 |
Exio |
awerty |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
too much trackmania :P |
| 20:49 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 20:49 |
kahrl |
!up kaeza.mooo.com |
| 20:49 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza.mooo.com:30000 seems to be down |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
the ultimate trackmania question: "what to do with your left hand" |
| 20:49 |
kahrl |
hmm |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
as with most racing games, you only play it with one hand, and you have no idea what to do with your other hand :P |
| 20:49 |
kaeza |
!up kaeza.mooo.com |
| 20:49 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (109ms) |
| 20:50 |
* VanessaE |
notes how reflective some of her keys have gotten also. |
| 20:50 |
VanessaE |
the spacebar is like a fricken mirror :) |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
kahrl, pressed C-c instead of C-a C-d (detach screen) |
| 20:50 |
kahrl |
:O |
| 20:51 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, heh |
| 20:51 |
svuorela |
where would one find papyrus? and what's the recipe for books? (the book recipe on the wiki (3 papers) don't work) |
| 20:51 |
VanessaE |
on dirt near water |
| 20:52 |
svuorela |
and can I 'plant' papyrus myself ? |
| 20:52 |
MinerofLands |
VenessaE can i pm you? |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
svuorela: I think so |
| 20:52 |
kaeza |
svuorela, some mods make papyrus grow |
| 20:52 |
kaeza |
so you can make farms |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: doesn't it grow by default now? |
| 20:53 |
kaeza |
dunno |
| 20:53 |
kaeza |
maybe farming added that? |
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| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: that might be, I just seem to recall it being there. |
| 20:55 |
kahrl |
it was added before, 19th March |
| 20:56 |
VanessaE |
thought so. |
| 20:59 |
svuorela |
what else is there to farm? I've managed planting trees |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
the farming mod is in by default now too |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
so there's wheat and a few others too |
| 20:59 |
svuorela |
in 0.4.6 ? |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
0.4.6 is obsolete. |
| 21:00 |
VanessaE |
0.4.7 is due out in a few days with a little luck. |
| 21:00 |
VanessaE |
so in the meantime, use latest git. |
| 21:01 |
Calinou |
"0.4.6 is obsolete" suddenly: all windows users are obsolete, since they use official build |
| 21:01 |
Calinou |
(most of them) |
| 21:01 |
VanessaE |
seems legit :P |
| 21:01 |
Calinou |
svuorela, in the official farming mod there is wheat and cotton |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
weed (some useless plant) and pumpkins have been removed and are available in farming_plus |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
wheat can be used for bread, cotton is used for wool |
| 21:02 |
VanessaE |
flowers can sort of be farmed also |
| 21:02 |
VanessaE |
plant one and others will grow near it eventually |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
you can farm cobble too :3 |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
true |
| 21:03 |
svuorela |
I have a chest of cobblestones |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
you can 'farm' obsidian, and with gloopblocks pumice, and basalt are possible to. |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
too* |
| 21:03 |
FreeFull |
I have always had the problem of having too much cobblestone |
| 21:03 |
svuorela |
I'm not sure I'm brave enough to run git edition. how much is there to build ? |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
FreeFull: I just throw it away after I have a few stacks of it. |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, obsidian isn't renewable, no? |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I thought it was? nevertheless, it is with gloopblocks :P |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
(I think) |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
FreeFull, /pulverize |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
no wait |
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Calinou |
:> |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
non-renewable liquids now isn't it |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
so I guess obsidian isn't |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
but the other two are |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
night |
| 21:06 |
svuorela |
does 0.4.7 come with drowning as well? |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 21:07 |
kaeza |
I still find it funny how people keep bitching about non-renewable lava when dirt is even more precious |
| 21:07 |
kaeza |
(whithout even taking into account clay, trees, papyrrus, etc) |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: unless you use the skyblock game, then it's renewable :P |
| 21:07 |
kaeza |
-r |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
well, papyrun and trees are renewable, so meh |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
the fuck keyboard?? |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 21:09 |
NakedFury |
allow placing stone in a furnace so you can melt it into lava |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: no way |
| 21:09 |
NakedFury |
for one bucket you would need lets say 10 or 20 stones + 20 coals for 1 lava. you need an extra bucket |
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BlockMen |
NakedFury, i like the idea |
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kaeza |
<plug type="shameless">svuorela, just use my survival modpack</plug> |
| 21:20 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't use bricks because of clay. Trees are very renewable. |
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NakedFury |
anything that can be planted is very renewable |
| 21:22 |
NakedFury |
and currently no recipe uses dirt so even if it is not renewable there is also no way to destroy it |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
don't forget /pulverize and such |
| 21:23 |
NakedFury |
but that is a command. I was talking more like ingame without commands |
| 21:24 |
NakedFury |
I dont know right now but if we throw blocks into a lava lake, are they destroyed? |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
it works in game with default survival privs, I believe |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
don't think so NakedFury |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
though there was a mod for that |
| 21:24 |
NakedFury |
ok then not counting that command there is no way to destroy or use up dirt blocks |
| 21:29 |
NakedFury |
been playing some very heavy modded minecraft servers. versions of Super Smash brothers |
| 21:29 |
NakedFury |
or DayZ and Wasteland from Arma 2 |
| 21:29 |
NakedFury |
even the HIdden game from Valves Source game |
| 21:30 |
kaeza |
lol super smash bros |
| 21:30 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
| 21:30 |
NakedFury |
that was my reaction too |
| 21:30 |
NakedFury |
smash brothers in minecraft!? no way |
| 21:30 |
kaeza |
that could be done in Minetest |
| 21:31 |
kaeza |
though pushing players would be hard |
| 21:31 |
NakedFury |
I guess they could be done but do we have a good shooting/throwing feature in the game yet? |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
kaeza: pistons push players! |
| 21:31 |
kaeza |
Uberi, :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
and kaeza's firearms mod is pretty great actually |
| 21:32 |
NakedFury |
no we need player collisions |
| 21:32 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: pistons horribly lag the client! :) |
| 21:32 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: yeah I saw the issue, need to investigate that |
| 21:32 |
VanessaE |
I assumed you did, I was just trying to be funny :) |
| 21:32 |
NakedFury |
I havent mauvebic and he made many guns for a mod too |
| 21:32 |
NakedFury |
havent seen* |
| 21:33 |
Uberi |
I think something to do with entities |
| 21:33 |
Uberi |
and some slow and inefficient code perhaps |
| 21:33 |
kaeza |
a player:setvelocity() method would be useful |
| 21:34 |
Uberi |
kaeza: recoil from weapons! |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
exactly :D |
| 21:34 |
Uberi |
you can do it somewhat with set_look_dir though |
| 21:34 |
* kaeza |
also mumbles something about player:setfov() |
| 21:34 |
Uberi |
kaeza: ironsights! I've wanted that for a while now |
| 21:35 |
Exio |
the :setfov is in my todo list |
| 21:35 |
Uberi |
first need to make fov controllable from server side |
| 21:35 |
Exio |
next to rewriting like half of the programs i wrote, finish some stuff(tm), and well |
| 21:35 |
VanessaE |
I think fov should be handled entirely client-side. this might be a good argument for client-side scripting |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, fov setting is quite useless as of now |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
only works on singleplayer |
| 21:36 |
Exio |
uh? |
| 21:36 |
Uberi |
OK, now let's look into what's up with //rotate |
| 21:36 |
Uberi |
(nore's revision was correct) |
| 21:36 |
Exio |
VanessaE: i really think client-side scripting based on what the server "says" should be pretty good |
| 21:36 |
VanessaE |
well it's just that I figure something like fov would be too laggy to be useful if done server-side. |
| 21:36 |
kaeza |
Exio, try /set fov 10 on a server |
| 21:36 |
Exio |
same for recoil |
| 21:36 |
Exio |
kaeza: i know |
| 21:36 |
Exio |
i already said that |
| 21:37 |
Uberi |
hey VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/35 |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
*looks at code*.... what bug does that fix? |
| 21:38 |
Uberi |
meseadjlist in can_go |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
(I don't really understand most of node's code ;) ) |
| 21:38 |
Uberi |
I'm not sure what the velocity thing is for |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
nore's* |
| 21:38 |
Uberi |
but presumably to avoid zero vectors having undefined direction |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
fuck it.... *merge* |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 21:38 |
Uberi |
but it's not a zero vector |
| 21:39 |
Uberi |
oh Nore even updated the overview.htm, perfect |
| 21:40 |
Uberi |
...doesn't MinetestBot handle pipeworks? |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't cover any of my mods |
| 21:41 |
Uberi |
is there a list of the repos it's watching? |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
not sure it should, I think the spew would be overwhelming |
| 21:41 |
Uberi |
that's true |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
not that I'd mind, of course :D |
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Uberi |
VanessaE: so //rotate just does the wrong angle right? it doesn't spawn 50 sheep or scale the region by 1000 or anything like that? |
| 21:42 |
JMR_ |
Hey |
| 21:42 |
Uberi |
hey JMR_ |
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VanessaE |
sometimes the angle is wrong, and sometimes it just doesn't rotate everything properly |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE |
(but the angle may be right in either case) |
| 21:43 |
Uberi |
so it messes up structures sometimes? |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 21:44 |
Uberi |
git blame to the rescue! |
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Uberi |
o/ bcnjr5 |
| 21:48 |
Uberi |
oh I found the issue |
| 21:48 |
Uberi |
but I swear I fixed it two days ago |
| 21:50 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix //rotate for real this time. f1cfc47189 2013-06-02T14:50:14-07:00 http://git.io/h1N7lQ |
| 21:51 |
Uberi |
now onto mesecons |
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BlockMen |
n8t |
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STHGOM |
bye |
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PilzAdam |
lol, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93043#p93043 |
| 22:42 |
Uberi |
oh my goodness is this real? |
| 22:43 |
PilzAdam |
I guess he messed up IRC and forum |
| 22:53 |
kaeza |
how do you get seeds with default farming? |
| 22:53 |
PilzAdam |
dig grass |
| 22:53 |
kaeza |
plowed a 7x7 square now, with a stone hoe and nothing |
| 22:54 |
PilzAdam |
not dirt_with_grass |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
ah |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
so it changed from farming mod? |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
k |
| 22:54 |
NakedFury |
do we have rules against massive double posting? |
| 22:55 |
PilzAdam |
we should add rules against stupidity |
| 22:55 |
Exio |
suddenly, half of the people in the forum banned |
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kaeza |
:D |
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NakedFury |
im afraid exio is right |
| 22:56 |
NakedFury |
but man we should try it out for a full week |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: is that documented anywhere? |
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| 22:59 |
kaeza |
27 of grass and not a single seed :( |
| 22:59 |
kaeza |
what am I doing wrong? |
| 22:59 |
PilzAdam |
the chance for getting seeds is 1/20, maybe it should be increased |
| 23:00 |
Uberi |
kaeza: dig more grass! |
| 23:00 |
Uberi |
put your back into it |
| 23:01 |
ch98 |
does anyone know why this c++ code is causing errors? |
| 23:01 |
Uberi |
because it's wrong |
| 23:02 |
Exio |
the best answer, ever |
| 23:02 |
ch98 |
for(std::list<RollbackAction>::const_reverse_iterator |
| 23:02 |
ch98 |
i = m_action_latest_buffer.rbegin(); |
| 23:02 |
Uberi |
ch98: what is the error given? |
| 23:03 |
ch98 |
i != m_action_latest_buffer.rend(); i++) |
| 23:03 |
PilzAdam |
ch98, use a pastebin |
| 23:03 |
Uberi |
pasteall.org is pretty good |
| 23:04 |
PilzAdam |
gist.github.com |
| 23:04 |
Uberi |
no captchas, supports images + blender files |
| 23:04 |
ch98 |
no match for 'operator!=' in 'blah blah blah' |
| 23:04 |
PilzAdam |
in gist you can edit, fork, download the paste |
| 23:04 |
Uberi |
what's blah blah blah? that might be the issue |
| 23:04 |
ch98 |
blah blah blah part is too long |
| 23:05 |
Uberi |
please give the error in its entirety |
| 23:05 |
ch98 |
error: no match for 'operator!=' in 'i != std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()' |
| 23:05 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: already told you how2 fix that |
| 23:06 |
ch98 |
it didn't seem to work |
| 23:06 |
Uberi |
ch98: what is the type of i? |
| 23:06 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, wut? |
| 23:07 |
Exio |
replace a != b with !(a == b) |
| 23:07 |
Exio |
or something like that :P |
| 23:07 |
PilzAdam |
oh that |
| 23:07 |
PilzAdam |
in this case its very likely to not fix the problem |
| 23:07 |
ch98 |
I tryd that but gave longer error |
| 23:08 |
Uberi |
please give the actual error again |
| 23:08 |
ch98 |
maybe my mac is too old for c++ |
| 23:08 |
PilzAdam |
lol mac |
| 23:08 |
ch98 |
error: no match for 'operator!=' in 'i != std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()' |
| 23:09 |
Exio |
what compiler, btw |
| 23:09 |
Uberi |
you didn't actually change it to !(i == ???) did you? |
| 23:09 |
ch98 |
compilor is xcode |
| 23:09 |
ch98 |
2.5 |
| 23:10 |
Exio |
what is xcode 2.5 |
| 23:10 |
Exio |
? |
| 23:10 |
Exio |
isn't there any normal gcc or clang? |
| 23:10 |
kahrl |
xcode is gcc usually |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
ch98: as Exio said, try using "!(i == std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend())" |
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kahrl |
or so I heard |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
xcode is an IDE and uses clang by default last I checked |
| 23:10 |
Exio |
isn't there any *normal* gcc or clang? ;P |
| 23:11 |
Exio |
damn |
| 23:11 |
Uberi |
but there's probably support for gcc in there too |
| 23:12 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, definitely have to increase the chances |
| 23:12 |
kaeza |
80 now, and not a single seed |
| 23:12 |
ch98 |
compilers xcode uses is gcc 3.3 and gcc 4.0.1 |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
kaeza: I think there might be something wrong with your farming setup |
| 23:13 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
did it work ch98? |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
well, stupid question, but do I need a special tool or something when digging? |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
*digging grass |
| 23:14 |
PilzAdam |
no |
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kaeza |
hmm |
| 23:14 |
ch98 |
didn't work. gave longest error yet |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
I'll try cloning it again later |
| 23:15 |
ch98 |
also, code that really is giving error is |
| 23:15 |
Uberi |
ch98: please paste the error |
| 23:15 |
ch98 |
i != m_action_latest_buffer.rend(); i++) |
| 23:15 |
ch98 |
error: no match for 'operator!=' in 'i != std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()' |
| 23:15 |
Uberi |
ch98: perhaps !(i == m_action_latest_buffer.rend()); i++) |
| 23:16 |
Uberi |
try that instead of the code you had there before |
| 23:16 |
ch98 |
'operator==' in 'i == std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()' |
| 23:17 |
ch98 |
new error in place of last one |
| 23:17 |
Uberi |
is that an error message? |
| 23:17 |
ch98 |
yes |
| 23:17 |
Uberi |
it looks like the front part got cut off |
| 23:17 |
ch98 |
sorry 'no match for' |
| 23:18 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Increase chance for getting seeds 29f1f01f37 2013-06-02T16:15:40-07:00 http://git.io/74GufA |
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Uberi |
hey Kacey |
| 23:18 |
Kacey |
hi |
| 23:19 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, done |
| 23:20 |
kaeza |
thanks :) |
| 23:20 |
kaeza |
but something must be wrong here |
| 23:20 |
VanessaE |
gah, what is it with my fps lately? feels like I'm running in software mode :-/ |
| 23:20 |
PilzAdam |
/give kaeza farming:seed_wheat 0 >:-) |
| 23:21 |
Exio |
-1! |
| 23:21 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: paint your case blue! |
| 23:21 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, its unsigned |
| 23:21 |
Uberi |
we need support for negative /give |
| 23:21 |
ch98 |
so what does this error mean? |
| 23:21 |
Uberi |
that would behave like /take |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
can someone help me find out what it is about the spawn on my server that's killing my fps? |
| 23:21 |
ch98 |
error: no match for 'operator==' in 'i == std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()' |
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PilzAdam |
hmm.. what about catching negative values in /give and remove the items from inventory? |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
yes perfect for adventure maps |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
you had a flashlight? oops, you dropped it |
| 23:22 |
PilzAdam |
someone requested /pulverze <name> already |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
I guess /give <name> -<number> would be good |
| 23:23 |
kahrl |
VanessaE, what do I need to do to get the mesh update thread error? |
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| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: I'm not sure what the pattern is to that. |
| 23:24 |
Exio |
WTF |
| 23:24 |
Exio |
i coded something |
| 23:24 |
Exio |
and compiled without warnings, the first time! |
| 23:24 |
Exio |
kaeza knows what it is |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
but it is easier to trigger if you yank your focus away from the MT window as soon as you hit 'connect' |
| 23:25 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, I coded whole mods without errors |
| 23:25 |
Uberi |
like the Air Sword mod |
| 23:25 |
Exio |
lua is easier |
| 23:26 |
Uberi |
guaranteed bug free |
| 23:26 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: is that true or just a coincidence? |
| 23:26 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, is the Air Sword topic back? |
| 23:26 |
PilzAdam |
someone removed it |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: it's probably just a coincidence, I really don't know how to reliably reproduce it |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
what? I should hope not |
| 23:28 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93113#p93113 |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
it;s GONE! where is it? |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: what is that? |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
who would remove the most incredibly powerful weapon mod ever devised for a video game? |
| 23:28 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, its a not english topic in the english part of the forum |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
oh right |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
moved. |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
didn't catch which section it was in :) |
| 23:29 |
PilzAdam |
you should post something too |
| 23:29 |
PilzAdam |
its his first post |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
go ahead, I don't understand that language :-) |
| 23:29 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, I suggest a shitstorm on thexyz to bring it back from his backups |
| 23:29 |
ch98 |
why does irrlicht build without error when minetest has more than thausand error if you do it from start? |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
eh, I'll add something. |
| 23:30 |
Uberi |
I wish I had kept a copy |
| 23:30 |
kaeza |
Uberi, lol |
| 23:30 |
kahrl |
has anybody seen the bug where water is opaque until you punch something? |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
I saved one copy of the mod in the default settings of my text editor |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
it always opens it starting it |
| 23:31 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: I can't reproduce the mesh update thread bug right now |
| 23:31 |
Uberi |
>>> mkdir air_sword & touch init.lua |
| 23:31 |
Exio |
content_ignore_sword is the best sword |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
* air_sword/init.lua |
| 23:31 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, cn's mods were GPL'ed, and you made a mod based on his code |
| 23:31 |
Uberi |
whoops |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: try using a heavy texture pack e.g. Sphax or Haven or HDX or so |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
it might be a memory-usage-dependent issue |
| 23:31 |
kaeza |
that makes your mods GPL :O |
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* kaeza |
now refuses to even base his mods on PA's |
| 23:33 |
Uberi |
only that particular mod |
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Uberi |
it's not like all the code output that ever existed becomes GPL |
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ch98 |
what does error "error: no match for 'operator==' in 'i == std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()'" mean in code "!(i == m_action_latest_buffer.rend()); i++)" |
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Kacey |
bbiab |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Replace c55.me links 6f9d384311 2013-06-02T16:57:42-07:00 http://git.io/mLW2pg |
