| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
NakedFury |
yeah but dont tell that to my friend that wants to be a YA Romance writter. Young Adult |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
frak this, frak that, or mix BSG and Lord of War and you get "frak you you frakking frak!" lol |
| 00:00 |
NakedFury |
ohh frak. the most awesome invented swear word ever |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
YA Romance writter == sex offender in most people's minds lol |
| 00:01 |
NakedFury |
shes a girl. ALL she reads is young adult female protagonist stories that have Romance first then whatever the crap comes second |
| 00:02 |
mauvebic |
though i was kidding, how does being a girl negate the possibility of being a sex offender? lol |
| 00:02 |
NakedFury |
maybe it doesnt. she also has a cat. so she tells me she fits the profile of the old cat lady already |
| 00:02 |
mauvebic |
so do i |
| 00:03 |
NakedFury |
ill fit the profile of the weird old dog guy with badly kept lawn |
| 00:03 |
mauvebic |
i have nicely kept gravel lol |
| 00:03 |
mauvebic |
city's giving away free trees, think ill plant one lol |
| 00:04 |
NakedFury |
wow free trees. you have to pay for trees |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
well at the home depot type stores yeah, and theyre not always cheap |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
otherwise you can go into the forest and grab one there, though i dont think its legal depending who owns the land |
| 00:05 |
mauvebic |
besides, its pot-growing season, people lay traps, you dont go fucking around in the woods lol |
| 00:05 |
NakedFury |
ohh I have seen the show following potheads and their farms |
| 00:06 |
NakedFury |
fucking weird how they can do that and not tell the police |
| 00:06 |
mauvebic |
the reason we can't have decent affordable housing is because of illegal indoor grow ups ruining the place |
| 00:06 |
mauvebic |
the police can't keep up lol |
| 00:07 |
mauvebic |
yo, i hear up to 90% of what is grown in quebec goes stateside, the remaining 10% is enough for the entire cdn east coast lol |
| 00:07 |
NakedFury |
in a few years we will have cross the line and have a real life show following around a serial killer |
| 00:07 |
mauvebic |
well, they already broadcast wars and terrorist hunts on live tv, so dunno what youre missing |
| 00:08 |
NakedFury |
yeah and all protected with the amendments. |
| 00:08 |
NakedFury |
need to check the spelling there |
| 00:08 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Ability to change the crosshair using textures 43a388ec53 2013-04-25T17:07:46-07:00 http://git.io/rxhtfA |
| 00:08 |
mauvebic |
what is protected with amendments? (confused) |
| 00:09 |
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| 00:09 |
NakedFury |
like the free speech, etc |
| 00:09 |
NakedFury |
need to check that out, never read about them |
| 00:10 |
mauvebic |
free speech yeah, though not garantees about funding for publication/broadcast lol |
| 00:12 |
NakedFury |
does hexchat have spell checker? |
| 00:12 |
mauvebic |
dunno i use xchat |
| 00:13 |
NakedFury |
not working for me |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
not crazy about hexchat's unique look when compared to every other window on my desktop |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
if my windows don't look uniform, i have them taken out and shot |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
:p |
| 00:15 |
NakedFury |
woah this hannibal series starts strong |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
yeah its actually not bad, for NBC lol |
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mauvebic |
though going for a hitler look-alike was a bit too obvious for portraying hannibal |
| 00:18 |
NakedFury |
the guy from Casino Royale |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
and the red bathroom is an intentional reference to the overlook hotel in The Shining |
| 00:22 |
NakedFury |
"this cannibal your getting to know, I think I can help Will see his face" ohh amazing for the killer to say this |
| 00:22 |
mauvebic |
yeah well hannibal always got a kick out of helping the cops just enough to not quite get there in time lol |
| 00:25 |
kaeza |
Lua sure is weird, I just found you can do arithmetic with strings O.o |
| 00:25 |
NakedFury |
wow is he feeding him lung with eggs right now? |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
he feeds all his victims to the people he's helping lol |
| 00:27 |
NakedFury |
never saw the movies |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
first two are good, you can skip the others lol |
| 00:27 |
NakedFury |
I have a weak mind for horror, mistery, scary movies |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
thats allright, horror and scary movies are pretty weak as of twenty years ago lol |
| 00:31 |
NakedFury |
wow he called the killer dude |
| 00:31 |
NakedFury |
a courtesy call |
| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
of course lol |
| 00:31 |
NakedFury |
wow this show is levels above other typical cop shows |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
well its not really a cop show, its more a psych/serialkiller/cannibal show |
| 00:33 |
NakedFury |
he is very calm about the situation. I like it |
| 00:34 |
NakedFury |
I hate myself but I see me watching this next saturday or sunday |
| 00:34 |
NakedFury |
the movies |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
well he's very methodical lol |
| 00:35 |
NakedFury |
I was talking about the part with the killers wife on the front porch with her throat cut and a pool of blood. Will is histerical and trembling but Hannibal is all " im good this is a sunny day, look ice cream" |
| 00:36 |
mauvebic |
well he's nuts so yeah he gets a kick out of it lol |
| 00:37 |
NakedFury |
no thanks to you I will watch the first two movies saturday and sunday |
| 00:38 |
NakedFury |
remove the no. should be thanks to you... |
| 00:39 |
mauvebic |
3-4 were sucky though |
| 00:39 |
NakedFury |
that happens. they tried to cash in on more money from the series |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
like most movies lol |
| 00:40 |
NakedFury |
Amuse-Bouche |
| 00:40 |
NakedFury |
is that a plate name? |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
its appetizers |
| 00:41 |
NakedFury |
Amuse-Bouche bite sized hors duvre |
| 00:41 |
NakedFury |
doeuvre |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
yeah and the cheap ones at the grocery store are practically small enough to snort lol |
| 00:43 |
NakedFury |
esno'rt doeuvre |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
basil fawlty : "hors=d'oeuvres, which must be obeyed at all cost!" lol |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
*hors d'oeuvres |
| 00:46 |
NakedFury |
this series is the next Dexter |
| 00:47 |
mauvebic |
never watched dexter, didn't like the trailers lol |
| 00:47 |
NakedFury |
is hannibal supposed to be a guy that started that stuff after a first cannibal? |
| 00:49 |
mauvebic |
naw hannibal's been at it for years/decades, they just pick up where he meets will graham in red dragon/manhunter movies |
| 00:49 |
NakedFury |
ohh |
| 00:49 |
NakedFury |
he just never left the bodies around to be found? |
| 00:50 |
mauvebic |
not when you eat most of it and dispose of the rest |
| 00:52 |
NakedFury |
wow second episode with creepy mushroom bodies |
| 00:53 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 00:54 |
mauvebic |
^ got yourself a mod idea |
| 00:54 |
NakedFury |
mushrooms growing out of your dead body in the game? |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
naw, killing players to get nice mushroom gardens :p |
| 00:57 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Minor hud.cpp cleanup 0fb9567f13 2013-04-25T17:56:12-07:00 http://git.io/YcZ7eA |
| 00:58 |
hmmmm |
kaeza: all dynamically-typed languages are crazy. see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0EIZa5e9q4 |
| 01:03 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY&NR=1&feature=endscreen |
| 01:04 |
RealBadAngel |
mauvebic, its like in this joke, man is sittin on the edge of the cliff and keep sayin: 20, 20, 20... tourist goes by and heard that stopped and asks the men: are you counting something? no respond. so he looks down there trying to see what he is counting |
| 01:04 |
RealBadAngel |
suddenly he felt off the cliff |
| 01:04 |
RealBadAngel |
and man sitting: 21, 21,21... |
| 01:06 |
RealBadAngel |
so more visitors to the mushroom garden it will become nicer ;) |
| 01:06 |
mauvebic |
well you need player traps yeah (forcefields + motion detectors?) |
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| 01:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
fuck |
| 01:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
a function i have been setting up for an hour has failed |
| 01:14 |
mauvebic |
^ http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/jp5114c822.png |
| 01:15 |
mauvebic |
or try again :p |
| 01:24 |
Kacey |
Oh great! The voices in my head learned Chinese. At least when they learned Spanish i could understand a few words... |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Minitest 1.4.2 will be released tomorrow |
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| 02:12 |
kaeza |
fak |
| 02:12 |
kaeza |
internetz weird again :( |
| 02:15 |
kaeza |
kahrl, http://youtu.be/ZkqBpEAYcz4 |
| 02:17 |
khonkhortisan |
that's some horrible aim |
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| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
well 13.04 certainly has an issue now... doesn't work with my husband's webcam anymore. |
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| 02:55 |
kahrl |
kaeza: nice |
| 02:56 |
kahrl |
maybe there should be a way to change the wield item animation when you use an item |
| 02:57 |
kaeza |
thanks :) |
| 02:57 |
kaeza |
that would be awesome |
| 02:57 |
kahrl |
use_anim='punch'/'recoil'/'none'/... |
| 02:57 |
kaeza |
currently looks more like a pistol whip than anything else |
| 03:03 |
kaeza |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 if you want to test |
| 03:07 |
kahrl |
I have to go to bed now though |
| 03:07 |
kahrl |
night |
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| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
back, for a short while |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
(fixed the camera issue, in a very obscure way) |
| 03:35 |
ssieb |
did you get an answer to why flowers weren't added to minetest_game? |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
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| 03:56 |
kaeza |
the world is going crazy... |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
second post by Exio!! |
| 03:58 |
Exio |
stop stalking me |
| 03:58 |
Exio |
! :P |
| 03:59 |
* Exio |
is running /clearobjects on his map |
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Exio |
3233 exio4 20 0 4028M 3634M 47240 R 102. 30.3 3:31.30 ./bin/minetest |
| 04:02 |
Exio |
w00t |
| 04:05 |
Exio |
haha |
| 04:05 |
Exio |
3233 exio4 20 0 7332M 6958M 54532 R 98.0 58.0 6:34.03 ./bin/minetest |
| 04:05 |
Exio |
finished :D |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
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| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8gsak6iF71r3qxnpo1_500.jpg |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
shit just got real. |
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| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
oops. |
| 04:41 |
* Exio |
yawns |
| 04:41 |
Exio |
good night |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
night |
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sfan5 |
!c 5270 / 5251 |
| 05:02 |
MinetestBot |
1.00361836 |
| 05:03 |
sfan5 |
every user on the minetest forum created on avg. 1.00361836 topics |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
wow |
| 05:06 |
ssieb |
does anyone know about Traxie's ServerExtended mod? |
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VanessaE |
no clue, sorry |
| 05:11 |
ssieb |
it's ok, I think I just figured it out :-) |
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| 05:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
I am exuberantly impressed with Ubuntu 12.04. |
| 05:16 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanez, http://youtu.be/ZkqBpEAYcz4 |
| 05:16 |
ssieb |
sokomine: are you there? |
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jordan4ibanez |
kaeza: That is really cool. Can you make it so you can reload with rightclick? |
| 05:17 |
kaeza |
shift+click to reload |
| 05:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh very nice. |
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| 05:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
I guess it was not this hard disk, a virus must have ruined the sectors of my hard disk partition, causing extreme glitches. |
| 05:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh my gosh, I think Kazam might actually be advanced enough on 13.04 for me to make videos completely in Linux. |
| 05:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Are there daily builds of Minetest for Ubuntu? |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
yes, there's a PPA |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
or you can run my build. |
| 05:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
What would be the difference of the Daily/Unstable apposed to your builds? |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
just what I choose to include in my builds, e.g. curl, luajit, no freetype, the various games |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
plus I make run-in-place builds |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
(as well as debs and slackware tarballs)...I don't know that there's a nightly repo for that |
| 05:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
Could you create a latest run in place build PPA with luajit, or have you already done so? |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
sure, gimme 5 mins. |
| 05:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Why, thank you. |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
I only build for amd64 though |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
I assume you can run that |
| 05:32 |
sfan5 |
hi jordan4ibanez |
| 05:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
I run AMD64. |
| 05:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hello sfan5. |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 05:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
I would build this myself, but I want to try to keep this system clean of -dev packages for as long as I can stand. |
| 05:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
As I said that, TF2 installs, the irony. |
| 05:36 |
sfan5 |
tf2 \o/ |
| 05:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
I shall play against you to the death sfan5. o/ |
| 05:37 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85954 |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
let me know if that works for you. |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
＼(・ω・＼) |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
? |
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| 05:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
VanessaE, would this be in the "Debian/Ubuntu packages" under the alias, "LuaJIT"? |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: no, you'd want one of the "minetest-git" packages |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
the luajit lib is in case it won't run using your system's luajit. |
| 05:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh why thank you. |
| 05:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh my gosh. Firefox finally did it right, the download section, actually does not open in a new window. |
| 05:41 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: http://ompldr.org/vaTg1NA/minetest-0.4.6-e068c04359-amd64 powered by my self-written fancy SFX archives |
| 05:41 |
sfan5 |
run it, it'll extract minetest and run it |
| 05:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
Thank you sfan5, but I think I will try to use the default package management system for now, just so I can manage everything without feeling overwhelmed. |
| 05:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'll create a virtual machine to try that tomorrow though. |
| 05:44 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: ok :) |
| 05:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
I tried your .deb VanessaE, and it is telling me that the package is of bad quality. |
| 05:44 |
VanessaE |
oh? |
| 05:45 |
VanessaE |
pastebin the messages please |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastie.org/pastes/7722712/text?key=1epoy9bmvnzhoqzwsbntoq |
| 05:45 |
VanessaE |
strange, why are those owned by me? |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
Because you are the compiler of the .deb file. |
| 05:45 |
VanessaE |
I meant those specific files :P |
| 05:46 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 05:46 |
VanessaE |
no matter, I'll see if I can fix it. |
| 05:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Would, "https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds/+packages" be the PPA of the dailybuilds/unstable of Minetest? |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: redoing it now, let's see if it works after this. |
| 05:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
Maybe, when 0.4.7 is released, we should update the 0.3.1 in the Software Center of Ubuntu to the latest? Haha. |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
not sure if that's the PPA or not. |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
Okay, good. |
| 05:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
"deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/daily-builds/ubuntu raring main" Ahh, here we are. |
| 05:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
I will try your build first though, VanessaE, just to make sure people do not get the warning when the download your builds. |
| 05:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
they* |
| 05:53 |
kaeza |
okay, time to go for me |
| 05:53 |
kaeza |
night all |
| 05:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
Goodnight, kaeza. |
| 05:53 |
kaeza |
o/ |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
night kaeza |
| 05:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
I will high-five him back tomorrow. |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: thanks for the bug report, wish someone had told me sooner so I don't have to keep you waiting on this. |
| 05:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
It is no problem at all, I understand. |
| 05:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
A nice lua-side feature would be the ability to draw basic shapes using points of the map. Useful for making strings, ropes, flailing flags, or anything you could think of. |
| 05:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
A kite mod would be a nice example of how this would be useful. |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
there's a meshes draw type coming soon |
| 06:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
Very nice. |
| 06:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
Could that be used for turning the heads of NPCs or mobs? |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 06:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
I see. That's the one main thing I'm waiting for someone to figure out; how to use a mesh, but rotate/scale/minipulate the mesh sections of a single parent mesh to create multiple animations with minimal code. |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/minetest-git-20130426_0fb9567f.deb |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
how's it look now? |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
(re-download it) |
| 06:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastie.org/pastes/7722745/text?key=y6oou1vma7yv9fwydiina |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
how the heck do I set that one? |
| 06:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
Ask in #ubuntu, maybe. |
| 06:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh man, a 29 second video came out to 1.4GB with raw/AVI codec in Kazam, let me stay far, far away from that one. |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE |
what are you using to check these anyway? |
| 06:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
The default Ubuntu Software Center. |
| 06:12 |
VanessaE |
oh, lintian. |
| 06:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
I will install the last package you posted, because I want to play already, haha. |
| 06:24 |
VanessaE |
wait. |
| 06:24 |
VanessaE |
I'm building one that's centered in /usr instead of /usr/local |
| 06:24 |
VanessaE |
(lintian didn't care much for the defaults) |
| 06:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh okay. |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE |
uploading now, but it'll still bitch about the maintainer name. |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE |
ok, redownload the same filename. |
| 06:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
"minetest: error while loading shared libraries: libluajit-5.1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 06:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
So I'm guessing I shall have to install that package? |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
right, so grab the luajit package too. |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
(you'll want to redownload it too, if you haven't already) |
| 06:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can you repost the link, just to be sure? |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/minetest-git-20130426_0fb9567f.deb |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/luajit-git-20130426_895a8bc9.deb |
| 06:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh gosh, which one? |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
the first is minetest, the second is luajit :) |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
take a guess ;) |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
does it work? |
| 06:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
It is still giving me that error. |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
the library error? |
| 06:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes. |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
ldconfig -v |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
sudo ldconfig -v |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
that is. |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
any luck? |
| 06:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
Which directory would you like to know about? |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
none. Just run the game again. |
| 06:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
Now it works, thank you. |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE |
yay! |
| 06:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
Nit-picky; Sound volume is defaulted to 80%. |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
that's not my fault :) |
| 06:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can you have the .deb auto-run that command? |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
I don't know how to do that |
| 06:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
Do I have to install openAL? |
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| 06:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think this might be my mixer, let me check. |
| 06:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yep it was my mixer, be right back. |
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| 06:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
A small quarm with the sound effects settings in Ubuntu 13.04, they are enabled, but just turned all the way down, so why not just disable them? |
| 06:43 |
Calinou |
ask mark shuttleworth why |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
morning Calinou. |
| 06:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
VanessaE, where are the files for Minetest held? |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE |
/usr/share/minetest |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
and your personal stuff of course is in /home/jordan4ibanez/.minetest |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
or whatever. |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
btw did anyone notice bcnjr is back? :) |
| 06:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh okay, a weird thing in Linux, you can get into SU by doing sudo su -, weird. |
| 06:47 |
Calinou |
noone named bc* on IRC |
| 06:47 |
Calinou |
but I remember his name, he played on kray with me back in 0.2, iirc |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: not really, 'su' is just a way of going root, the user is still root eithe rway |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: on the forums. |
| 06:47 |
Calinou |
ah, ok |
| 06:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can I reset the privelages of a directory through the terminal? |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
sudo chown someuser:somegroup /path/to/files |
| 06:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
I tried to make it so I can edit the files of the minetest dir, but I accidentally assigned it to Avahi autoip daemon. |
| 06:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Thank you. |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
sudo chmod _____ /path/to/files where ____ might be 755 or u+x or something |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
(look up the chmod command, too much to explain here) |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
chown -R if you need a recursive change |
| 06:52 |
Calinou |
ch98 gets award of best way to write "griefer": http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86622#p86622 |
| 06:52 |
Calinou |
"greafers"... lol |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
pff |
| 06:53 |
VanessaE |
at leas it "sounds" right, unlike "grifter" or "griffer" or so. |
| 06:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
How do I recursively assign permissions for my user to gain acces to all the files below the /usr/share/minetest/ dir? |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
-R |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
but don't do that. |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
never give a user, not even yourself, access to stuff under /usr |
| 06:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh okay |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
if you wanna add a game or mods or whatever, put those in /home/jordan4ibanez/.minetest or whatever your regular, non-privileged userid is. |
| 06:56 |
ssieb |
on Fedora, the system-wide writable game files are in /var/lib/minetest and owned by the minetest user |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
strange place for that |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
I could see putting them in /opt maybe |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
but /var? that's just dumb. |
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| 06:58 |
ssieb |
why? /var is for all that kind of thing |
| 06:58 |
Calinou |
my /opt is always empty |
| 06:58 |
ssieb |
/opt is a weird place :-) |
| 06:58 |
Calinou |
well, it has teamviewer files for me |
| 06:58 |
Calinou |
and used to have oracle java, but I realised it wasn't faster than openjdk :P |
| 07:01 |
celeron55 |
/opt is for stuff that doesn't play well when installing different parts of a program to different directories |
| 07:04 |
ssieb |
as in, generally, non-open-source software ;-) |
| 07:04 |
* ssieb |
goes to sleep |
| 07:06 |
triSLEEP |
Calinou: teamview = bad |
| 07:06 |
Calinou |
yes, we should all set up our VNC server |
| 07:07 |
triSLEEP |
yes |
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| 07:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
500GB of hard disk space? http://goo.gl/BJAFX |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
install...ALL the things? :-\ |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 07:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Clementine, VLC, LMMS, Steam, Kazam, Minetest, Minecraft, TF2, Draw Me A Path! My hard drive needs more! |
| 07:11 |
Calinou |
/dev/sdb4 1,8T 46G 1,7T 3% /home |
| 07:11 |
Calinou |
pwned |
| 07:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mechanical drive? |
| 07:11 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 07:11 |
Calinou |
there is no 2TB SSD today, except if you used a RAID 0 of two 1TB SSDs (M500) |
| 07:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think in a year or two, your hard disk might just pwn itself. |
| 07:11 |
Calinou |
= about 1200 euros |
| 07:12 |
Calinou |
it's been working for 1.5 year |
| 07:12 |
Calinou |
it's a 7200rpm too, not a 5400rpm |
| 07:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mechanical hard disks over 1TB Rarely make it over 2-3 years. |
| 07:12 |
Calinou |
FUD. |
| 07:13 |
Calinou |
they're also faster than they 1TB counterparts :> |
| 07:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wanted to get one, but it seemed like a bad idea. Hybrid drives is where the cool cats are at. |
| 07:13 |
Calinou |
hybrid drives is all marketing, the cache does nothing |
| 07:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
The cache is magical. |
| 07:13 |
celeron55 |
my laptop's HDD is 6 years old and it still works like new 8) |
| 07:14 |
celeron55 |
but it's a durable model in shock-proof casing |
| 07:14 |
Calinou |
^ toughbook user |
| 07:14 |
celeron55 |
also, c55.me's 40Gb shit drive lasted 10 years before breaking |
| 07:14 |
celeron55 |
GB* |
| 07:14 |
Calinou |
I have a 40GB drive around, no idea if it still works :P |
| 07:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh nice, my hard disks were all given to me because nobody wanted them, haha. I have no idea how old this 500GB is. |
| 07:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
That might be a bad thing, or, a good thing. |
| 07:15 |
celeron55 |
otoh c55.me's 120GB drive broke after like three years (bought it used, that's the full lifetime) |
| 07:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
How old was it before date of purchasing? |
| 07:16 |
celeron55 |
at the same time i bought a used 160GB one, that's still running fine (after ~2 years from when the other one broke) |
| 07:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
I must sleep now. |
| 07:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
Goodnight #minetest. |
| 07:18 |
VanessaE |
night |
| 07:19 |
celeron55 |
hmm... i don't remember where i got the 6GB drive that broke in the old laptop when i ran a 0.3 server on it a good while ago |
| 07:19 |
celeron55 |
i think normal hard drives fail pretty randomly |
| 07:20 |
celeron55 |
which is kind of not fun |
| 07:20 |
celeron55 |
but SSDs fail just as randomly too |
| 07:21 |
celeron55 |
and they give no mercy; once they fail, you aren't going to get a single byte out of them 8) |
| 07:22 |
Calinou |
99% of SSD failures are due to the controller, not to the NAND |
| 07:22 |
Calinou |
unlike HDDs :P |
| 07:22 |
celeron55 |
yes, and 99% of HDD failures are due to stuff wearing out |
| 07:22 |
tripod |
/dev/sda2 871G 823G 4.4G 100% /home |
| 07:22 |
tripod |
/dev/sdb1 1.5T 1.5T 1.6G 100% /mnt/hook3d |
| 07:22 |
tripod |
/dev/sdc1 1.9T 1.8T 61G 97% /mnt/anime |
| 07:22 |
tripod |
:( |
| 07:22 |
tripod |
they are the mounted hdd's too |
| 07:22 |
tripod |
several others are full |
| 07:23 |
tripod |
need moar |
| 07:23 |
tripod |
Calinou: buy me 2 X 3tb hdd's |
| 07:23 |
tripod |
plz |
| 07:23 |
tripod |
~obit Calinou |
| 07:23 |
celeron55 |
i tend to just throw away space-consuming stuff rather than continuously try to figure out how to get more storage for them |
| 07:24 |
tripod |
0all my crap |
| 07:24 |
tripod |
well about 15tb of anime and about 8tb of movies/tv |
| 07:24 |
tripod |
but data retention scares me |
| 07:25 |
celeron55 |
my 2TB desktop disk is mostly filled with backups from my other computer's smaller disks |
| 07:25 |
celeron55 |
:P |
| 07:25 |
tripod |
:D |
| 07:26 |
tripod |
ive been using the same loonix install for like 7 years :D |
| 07:26 |
celeron55 |
(it isn't even half full though) |
| 07:26 |
Calinou |
never got a linux install for more than 1.5 year :> |
| 07:26 |
Calinou |
this one is about 5 months old |
| 07:28 |
celeron55 |
well, tripod wins in this one, i guess :P |
| 07:28 |
tripod |
:P |
| 07:28 |
tripod |
dw |
| 07:28 |
tripod |
i love you guys |
| 07:28 |
celeron55 |
i do have years old installations |
| 07:28 |
celeron55 |
but not 7 8) |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
jeez, and I barely go 6 months between installs before I manage to botch something :D |
| 07:31 |
tripod |
since ive been using bedrock ive been fucking up a shit tonne. |
| 07:31 |
celeron55 |
i have a three years old Arch install on my laptop... which hasn't been updated in more than half a year |
| 07:31 |
celeron55 |
i'll probably need to take a full copy of the disk before attempting to update 8) |
| 07:31 |
celeron55 |
it's going to seriously break |
| 07:32 |
celeron55 |
eg. systemd is going to cause a lot of trouble |
| 07:33 |
celeron55 |
with some non-rolling release distro this'd equal to roughly nothing |
| 07:34 |
tripod |
well |
| 07:35 |
tripod |
pacman/system.d/everything that depending on using rc.d |
| 07:35 |
tripod |
then it's gcc/symlink font system ect |
| 07:35 |
tripod |
i'd like to Syu the fuck out of that laptop celeron55 |
| 07:35 |
tripod |
:D |
| 07:36 |
Calinou |
alias YOLO='sudo pacman -Syu --force' |
| 07:37 |
tripod |
haha |
| 07:37 |
celeron55 |
tripod: also for example /home is encrypted with a boot-time password |
| 07:37 |
celeron55 |
that may hurt badly too |
| 07:37 |
Calinou |
encryption, lol |
| 07:38 |
Calinou |
^ how intel manages to sell 3930Ks |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
i remember forcing an upgrade on filesystem when i had LUKS encrypted /home |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
it failed horribly |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
Calinou: where are you from again? |
| 07:38 |
Calinou |
france |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
oh |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
awesome |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
BONJOUR |
| 07:38 |
celeron55 |
pacman -Syu --force is usually so horrible an idea that... it could as well not even exist 8) |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
France. He is from France. |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
you are also awesome |
| 07:38 |
tripod |
you can -Sf iirc celeron55 |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
meh, the joke doesn't work without the 'accent'. |
| 07:39 |
tripod |
if you wanted to :P |
| 07:39 |
celeron55 |
tripod: yes, that is a better ide |
| 07:39 |
tripod |
im from upside down land |
| 07:39 |
celeron55 |
+a |
| 07:39 |
tripod |
then you'd need to generate entropy for pacman-key |
| 07:41 |
tripod |
any australians idle this chanel |
| 07:41 |
tripod |
or am i the only one :( |
| 07:41 |
celeron55 |
we have very little people from the far east |
| 07:42 |
Calinou |
they lag too much |
| 07:42 |
Calinou |
when they say "hi", they've already left |
| 07:42 |
bas080 |
I'm from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzOzUHYwPms |
| 07:42 |
tripod |
oh yeah |
| 07:42 |
tripod |
or 00:00 HELP I HAVE A PROBLEM ( |
| 07:42 |
celeron55 |
this channel becomes quite dead in just a few hours from now as europeans are at school/work and american sleep |
| 07:42 |
celeron55 |
+s |
| 07:42 |
tripod |
00:02 person left |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
sleep? |
| 07:42 |
tripod |
brb dinnner |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
*looks at clock* ..... you mean THAT is what I'm supposed to be doing now? |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 07:43 |
bas080 |
Most people here have a 30 hour day clock |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 07:45 |
Calinou |
it's holidays here, no school |
| 07:45 |
Calinou |
until monday |
| 07:45 |
bas080 |
What holiday? |
| 07:45 |
Calinou |
spring? |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
"Spring Break", we called it when I was in school. |
| 07:45 |
Calinou |
minetest freezes when starting because it's taking forever to download server list |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
and boy did I ever look forward to it. |
| 07:46 |
Calinou |
11.9 second lag to IRC |
| 07:46 |
bas080 |
SPRING BREAK!!! |
| 07:47 |
bas080 |
This one is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34KkkmDBtLE |
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| 07:52 |
Calinou |
29.5 second lag |
| 07:52 |
Calinou |
and it overflowed to 0 second |
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| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
jeesh.. |
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| 07:54 |
tripod |
wow Calinou |
| 07:54 |
tripod |
lucky you |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
that's luck? |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
bad luck maybe :) |
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| 08:20 |
celeron55 |
*silence begins* |
| 08:29 |
* VanessaE |
pokes random accounts to see who is awake |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
well there's one |
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| 08:48 |
iqualfragile |
im awake |
| 08:49 |
iqualfragile |
its 11ish around here |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
10 mins to 5am here. |
| 08:49 |
iqualfragile |
and i think we might need a german subforum |
| 08:51 |
iqualfragile |
because like half the minetest community is from germany |
| 08:51 |
iqualfragile |
(well not exactly half but there are lots) |
| 09:00 |
celeron55 |
my policy regarding to that is to leave such to be handled by those who speak a different language |
| 09:01 |
celeron55 |
if there are enough, there will be someone who has the resources to make a forum |
| 09:05 |
iqualfragile |
well… a subforum would have the advantage that peoplet would not need to reregister |
| 09:05 |
VanessaE |
"Discussion in other languages" section is more than enough |
| 09:06 |
celeron55 |
but such an subforum will only take from, not give to the people who don't speak german |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
start adding in whole forums... exactly, what he said. |
| 09:07 |
celeron55 |
by forcing most of the german people to talk english on the forum, we make their stuff available to anyone who speaks the current world language (english) |
| 09:07 |
celeron55 |
which is highly preferable |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: which also begs the question...how seriously fucked are we gonna be when the rest of the world switches to Chinese in about 10 years? :) |
| 09:08 |
celeron55 |
gotta learn chinese then |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:12 |
iqualfragile |
nevarr |
| 09:13 |
iqualfragile |
i have made a short listing of germans on the forums wich is realy incomplete but it should give an idea: sfan5, pilzadam, jeija, sapier, casimir, echo, hybrid dog, tobinator, padderman, meldrian, sokomine, luios, iqualfragile |
| 09:14 |
VanessaE |
ok, that's a dozen out of, what, 200 active users or something? |
| 09:14 |
VanessaE |
so I wouldn't say "half" is anywhere close to accurate |
| 09:15 |
iqualfragile |
problem is: not all germans like to speak english or are good at it so creating a german subforum might help those |
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| 09:15 |
VanessaE |
I would venture a guess and say the userbase is about as equally distributed around the western hemisphere as any other community (allowing for the "we barely have any far-eastern users" caveat) |
| 09:15 |
VanessaE |
morning, 0gb |
| 09:16 |
iqualfragile |
i do not think that mod publishing should be in german but for things like servers or help requests a german subforum would be nice |
| 09:16 |
[0gb_us] |
Morning, VanessaE. |
| 09:16 |
VanessaE |
celeron55 is right though. English is a better language for this situation - whether the other-language-speakers like to use it or not. |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
you gotta remember that the English-speaking crowd probably has a majority of folks who only speak it as a second language, but who don't necessarily speak a common language amongst one another. |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
s/a common/some other common |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
/ |
| 09:19 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE: i know, but (as i said) for servers and for requests for help it would be nice to have a german subforum |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
mmmh |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
let someone else run an unofficial German et.al forum then |
| 09:20 |
iqualfragile |
people who are not really good at reading english will have problems reading answers in english and there might be some "local" servers who want to have german speaking players (Austria, Switzerland, Germany) |
| 09:21 |
iqualfragile |
creating another forum would make people need to register 2 accounts which just wont happen |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
[0gb_us]: did you notice that flowers got pushed into common? :) |
| 09:23 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, PilzAdam paged us when he did that. |
| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
oh ok (I didn't see it in my scrollback) |
| 09:23 |
[0gb_us] |
I think he did, anyway ... |
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| 09:29 |
[0gb_us] |
I can't believe he added dry shrub regeneration to flowers. It doesn't seem to be something he'd add. |
| 09:30 |
[0gb_us] |
I've been trying to find a good way to add it for a while. |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
aw shit |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
he changed your regrowth ABM |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
now interval 50, chance 25 |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
no wonder flowers are growing so wildly on my server |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
and he's not avoiding group:flower - only group:flora |
| 09:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, another surprizing change. |
| 09:33 |
VanessaE |
I better change my mod to put flowers_plus items into flora group. |
| 09:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Wait, he removed the flora group? |
| 09:34 |
VanessaE |
no, he just doens't use the flower' |
| 09:34 |
VanessaE |
no, he just doens't use the 'flower' group for the density control |
| 09:34 |
VanessaE |
I did. |
| 09:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Ah, got it. |
| 09:34 |
VanessaE |
so I have to change my code to suit, because he uses the 'flora' group for density control |
| 09:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Probably so jungle grass and grass will still be controlled. |
| 09:37 |
VanessaE |
there, flowers_plus git update.d |
| 09:41 |
VanessaE |
and...removed the regrowth abm from flowers_plus for all default flowers. |
| 09:41 |
VanessaE |
that should bring it back under control. |
| 09:41 |
VanessaE |
anyone wanna stroll around my server helping me harvest all the excess flowers? :) |
| 09:41 |
[0gb_us] |
Coming. |
| 09:42 |
[0gb_us] |
I think I got hit with the media download again. |
| 09:43 |
VanessaE |
yeah, there have been several updates since your last visit |
| 09:43 |
[0gb_us] |
Stuck at 0% though. |
| 09:49 |
VanessaE |
and another update to plantlife pushed, to make poisonivy and jungle grasses also follow that flora thing. |
| 09:49 |
VanessaE |
server restarting. |
| 09:50 |
[0gb_us] |
The escape key won't let me cancel ...... |
| 09:50 |
[0gb_us] |
I think something is broken. |
| 09:50 |
VanessaE |
better kill your client and re-start then |
| 09:50 |
[0gb_us] |
I did that, and it happened a second time. |
| 09:51 |
[0gb_us] |
It gets stuck after: |
| 09:51 |
[0gb_us] |
02:46:35: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "unknown_node.png" while building texture |
| 09:51 |
[0gb_us] |
02:46:35: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "unknown_node.png" |
| 09:51 |
VanessaE |
weird |
| 09:51 |
VanessaE |
better try updating just to be sure |
| 09:51 |
VanessaE |
(that texture was renamed a while back) |
| 09:52 |
[0gb_us] |
Updating will take at least half an hour to compile, it you want to wait. |
| 09:52 |
VanessaE |
half hour? eek |
| 09:52 |
VanessaE |
takes me all of 5 minutes |
| 09:52 |
[0gb_us] |
I can't compile quickly, for whatever reason. |
| 09:53 |
VanessaE |
I'm spoiled :) |
| 09:53 |
[0gb_us] |
Your computer I hear is a monster in terms of powere, so maybe that's why you compile quicly. |
| 09:53 |
[0gb_us] |
*power |
| 09:53 |
VanessaE |
meh, 2.8 GHz, 6 cores |
| 09:53 |
VanessaE |
kinda middle-of-the-road by today's standards. |
| 09:54 |
[0gb_us] |
Well, I'm on an old laptop, so .... |
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VanessaE |
what do you think of the idea of having poison ivy and flowers die off after a while? |
| 10:02 |
[0gb_us] |
It makes them hard to build with. |
| 10:03 |
[0gb_us] |
I like to use poison ivy to decorate. |
| 10:03 |
VanessaE |
(the way jungle grass does I mean - grow for a while, die off, repeat) |
| 10:03 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 10:03 |
VanessaE |
I'll leave that alone then |
| 10:03 |
[0gb_us] |
And if it dies, I have to find something else. |
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[0gb_us] |
Drats. I forgot to fix my settings. Every time I update, I lose them. |
| 10:30 |
[0gb_us] |
THis is why I quit using the dev client. |
| 10:47 |
[0gb_us] |
VanessaE: I think there may be a bug in poison ivy. The climbing version spawns on grass with a facedir that makes it look like it's floating. |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
I just spotted that and I'm trying to find the cause right now |
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[0gb_us] |
Okay, cool. |
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thexyz |
kaeza: better contact the author about the font |
| 10:53 |
[0gb_us] |
VanessaE: Found the issue. Climbing poison ivy shouldn't be flora. |
| 10:53 |
[0gb_us] |
The flora spawner is doing it. |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
aw fuck |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
nice catch |
| 10:54 |
VanessaE |
it must not understand facedir nodes then |
| 10:54 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 10:55 |
[0gb_us] |
It also spawns it on grass, not trees. And climbing ivy should spawn on trees, right? |
| 10:55 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 10:55 |
VanessaE |
trees, dirt, stone, most anything vertical that is also naturally-occurring |
| 10:55 |
[0gb_us] |
That's why the dry shrub isn't flora either, when it technically is a plant. |
| 10:56 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, my bad then. I thought it as only trees. |
| 10:56 |
VanessaE |
fix pushed to plantlife git |
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[0gb_us] |
I got booted, and I can't get back into your world .... |
| 10:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, right. I'm probably still timing out. |
| 10:57 |
* Calinou |
reboots [0gb_us] |
| 10:57 |
VanessaE |
odd, seems okay from here...restarting it though |
| 10:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Nah, no need for a restart. |
| 10:57 |
VanessaE |
I needed to anyway to deploy that poisonivy fix. |
| 10:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, right. |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86637#p86637 |
| 10:59 |
VanessaE |
[0gb_us]: where is the code that is spawning stuff in that group? |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
if i have 2 recipes for one and one recipe uses nodes that are not in the game will this crash it |
| 11:02 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997|Tablet: no, the recipe will simply not work. |
| 11:02 |
VanessaE |
(it'll be effectively ignored) |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok good |
| 11:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
vanesae i added yours |
| 11:03 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997|Tablet: plantlife? when? |
| 11:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
uh yesterday |
| 11:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
but |
| 11:03 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 11:03 |
VanessaE |
don't update again until I let you know it's safe. |
| 11:04 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i got rid of jungle grass if you were worried |
| 11:04 |
VanessaE |
trying to sort out an obscure bug |
| 11:04 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok |
| 11:04 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i need to figure out the tnt |
| 11:04 |
[0gb_us] |
VanessaE: It's in common/flowers/init.lua. |
| 11:04 |
VanessaE |
[0gb_us]: found it. |
| 11:04 |
[0gb_us] |
At the bottom, I think. |
| 11:05 |
VanessaE |
line 124. |
| 11:05 |
VanessaE |
nodenames = {"group:flora"} |
| 11:05 |
VanessaE |
bah. |
| 11:05 |
[0gb_us] |
Something wrong with that? |
| 11:05 |
VanessaE |
this screws up everything |
| 11:05 |
[0gb_us] |
Why is that? |
| 11:06 |
[0gb_us] |
Flora is a new group, it shouldn't interfere with anything |
| 11:06 |
VanessaE |
because it uses the same match key for spawning plants as is used for *avoiding* them |
| 11:06 |
[0gb_us] |
I see. |
| 11:06 |
VanessaE |
which means that everything to be avoided has to be spawned by this abmn |
| 11:06 |
VanessaE |
abm* |
| 11:06 |
VanessaE |
which in turn means I can't assign different perlin zones to different plants |
| 11:06 |
[0gb_us] |
I didn't code the avoidance part. |
| 11:06 |
[0gb_us] |
PilzAdam must have added that. |
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| 11:07 |
VanessaE |
if I put my extra flowers in group:flora, they'll be properly avoided but they will also be spawned by this ABM, which I definitely DO NOT want. |
| 11:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Why do they need to be avoided? |
| 11:07 |
VanessaE |
because I don't, for example, want poison ivy to spawn near a flowerbed. |
| 11:07 |
Calinou |
the default windows wallpaper has flowers |
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* Calinou |
is very far away |
| 11:08 |
Calinou |
very |
| 11:08 |
[0gb_us] |
Whats' wrong with poison ivy creeping into flower beds? |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lgJY56zp_vU |
| 11:08 |
VanessaE |
[0gb_us]: nothing I suppose except that I don't want to disturb peoples' creations |
| 11:09 |
[0gb_us] |
I see ... |
| 11:09 |
[0gb_us] |
Maybe the avoidance should be in poison ivy? So poison ivy can't creep into fower beds, but flowers can creep into ivy beds. |
| 11:11 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. I'm thinking we'll never finish if we hand weed these .... |
| 11:11 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 11:11 |
VanessaE |
removed poison ivy nodes from flora group, pushed to plantlife git. |
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| 11:12 |
VanessaE |
but see, now growable flowers won't avoid poison ivy areas, so the density will creep up way too high there. |
| 11:12 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. I'm not sure what to do about that. |
| 11:12 |
VanessaE |
the correct solution is to add another match key to the find_nodes_in_area() call at line 145, say "group:flora_avoid" or some such |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
local flowers = minetest.env:find_nodes_in_area(pos0, pos1, {"group:flora", "group:flora_avoid"}) |
| 11:13 |
[0gb_us] |
Another issue with hand weeding these is that due to item_drop, it leaves entities everywhere ..... |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
or some such thing; I believe that call can accept a table for the match keys |
| 11:15 |
[0gb_us] |
Then the ABM is called on flora_avoid too, turning flora_avoid into a plant spawner. |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
nonono |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
not in the abm match key. |
| 11:15 |
[0gb_us] |
Which is the opposite of the intended effect. |
| 11:15 |
[0gb_us] |
OH! Got it. |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
but in the find_nodes_in_area() call |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
which is how he's controlling for density |
| 11:16 |
[0gb_us] |
I see. Okay. |
| 11:16 |
VanessaE |
and it says in the API that it *does* take a table |
| 11:16 |
VanessaE |
so change line 145 to read: |
| 11:16 |
VanessaE |
local flowers = minetest.env:find_nodes_in_area(pos0, pos1, {"group:flora", "group:flora_avoid"}) |
| 11:16 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, it does. I pass it tables too. |
| 11:17 |
VanessaE |
and then add to the flora_avoid group anything that this routine should avoid that isn't also spawned by it. |
| 11:17 |
[0gb_us] |
Okay, that sounds like a good compromise. |
| 11:17 |
VanessaE |
which would only be a few nodes in my mods - the defaults wouldn't need changed. |
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| 11:20 |
VanessaE |
hopefully pilzadam will show up soon |
| 11:20 |
VanessaE |
so I can get him to push this through real quick |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
took all flowers_plus objects out of flora group, except cotton, and removed cotton growing abm |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
pushed to git. |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
that should undo everything I botched tonight :) |
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| 11:31 |
VanessaE |
one lousy slash, jeez. |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
test, test... Hello? |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
YAY |
| 11:31 |
VanessaE |
yeah, it works now. |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
is this mic on? |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
oops, it is :) |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
thanks VanessaE |
| 11:31 |
VanessaE |
Infinity_69: no, it's off. |
| 11:31 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
:o |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
you un-plugged it! |
| 11:31 |
Infinity_69 |
WHY! |
| 11:32 |
VanessaE |
I didn't do nothin' |
| 11:32 |
Infinity_69 |
its my time, its my life, i can do, what i like... |
| 11:32 |
Infinity_69 |
$guessSongName VanessaE |
| 11:32 |
VanessaE |
no idea. |
| 11:32 |
Infinity_69 |
o.o |
| 11:33 |
Infinity_69 |
Enrique Iglesias - I like how it feels |
| 11:33 |
Infinity_69 |
you never heard it? |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 11:33 |
Infinity_69 |
!g VanessaE |
| 11:33 |
sfan5 |
topic about linux live cd with minetest on it.. jojoa1997 asks "Is this for Linux" |
| 11:33 |
MinetestBot |
Infinity_69: http://www.vanessae.com/ |
| 11:33 |
Infinity_69 |
:o |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
I don't listen to modern "music" |
| 11:34 |
Infinity_69 |
VanessaE = FAMOUS |
| 11:34 |
Infinity_69 |
xD |
| 11:34 |
Infinity_69 |
VanessaE == FAMOUS |
| 11:34 |
VanessaE |
the only Iglesias I know about is Gabriel Iglesias. |
| 11:34 |
Infinity_69 |
ERROR: Syntax error |
| 11:34 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 11:34 |
VanessaE |
fat stand-up comedian. |
| 11:34 |
VanessaE |
"Fluffy" |
| 11:34 |
VanessaE |
#2 after Jeff Dunham (the ventriloquist) |
| 11:35 |
Infinity_69 |
maybe i've heard of him...dunno... |
| 11:36 |
Infinity_69 |
but how about... Rob Dyrdek |
| 11:36 |
Infinity_69 |
Fantasy Factory! |
| 11:36 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 11:36 |
Infinity_69 |
o.o |
| 11:38 |
Infinity_69 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhqmyjpnYU == 'Best intro EVER!' |
| 11:38 |
Infinity_69 |
It's just a fantasy!\ |
| 11:41 |
Infinity_69 |
It's not lupus! |
| 11:41 |
Infinity_69 |
-.- |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
it's never lupus. |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
(or never was anyway, except like once) |
| 11:42 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 11:42 |
Infinity_69 |
$guessMovieOrSeries VanessaE |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
House, duh. |
| 11:42 |
Infinity_69 |
YAY! |
| 11:42 |
Infinity_69 |
I like Kyle... *sniff* |
| 11:43 |
Infinity_69 |
Remember? |
| 11:43 |
VanessaE |
used to be the only TV show I actually watched with any regularity, until FOX decided to try their copyright bullshit on me. |
| 11:44 |
Infinity_69 |
??? |
| 11:44 |
Infinity_69 |
what do u mean? |
| 11:44 |
VanessaE |
nevermind. |
| 11:44 |
Infinity_69 |
what did they do! |
| 11:44 |
Infinity_69 |
o.o |
| 11:44 |
Infinity_69 |
we have FOX and FOX life here, in Estonia, but i kinda like them... |
| 11:45 |
Infinity_69 |
so what did they do there? |
| 11:45 |
sfan5 |
interesting... some people tra s |
| 11:45 |
Infinity_69 |
tra s? |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
tried to give me legal noise about downloading an episode because I couldn't receive over-the-air TV where IW as. |
| 11:45 |
sfan5 |
*used google translator to view my minetest windows build topic |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE |
so I shot back with a nastygram disavowing the download and any further interest in the show...and I dropped it cold, just like that. |
| 11:46 |
Infinity_69 |
omfg o.o |
| 11:46 |
Infinity_69 |
TBIYF |
| 11:46 |
Infinity_69 |
i mean... |
| 11:46 |
Infinity_69 |
TTBIYF |
| 11:46 |
Infinity_69 |
The Torrent Bay Is Your Friend |
| 11:46 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE |
media conglomerates track torrents. |
| 11:47 |
Infinity_69 |
*Knock Knock*; Who's there?; Not Lupus |
| 11:47 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 11:48 |
Infinity_69 |
maybe FOX was RUSSIAN too much? |
| 11:48 |
Infinity_69 |
xD |
| 11:49 |
Infinity_69 |
hey, who has seen Zeg9? |
| 11:56 |
Infinity_69 |
They found me, I don't know how, but they found me. Run for it Marty!†Actually, the page you are looking for does not exist. Don’t give up, though. |
| 12:00 |
VanessaE |
ok, off to bed now. |
| 12:00 |
sfan5 |
ubuntu 13.04 is out |
| 12:01 |
sfan5 |
*clicks upgrade* |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: already running it. |
| 12:01 |
[0gb_us] |
Good night. |
| 12:01 |
sfan5 |
the update manager didn't tell me in time |
| 12:01 |
* sfan5 |
just tries to tabcomplete "update manager" |
| 12:01 |
sfan5 |
*tried |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
watch your video drivers, and note that update manager and jockey both got merged into settings manager, at least in xubuntu. |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
| 12:01 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm on 12.04. I'm waiting until 14.04 to upgrade. |
| 12:04 |
sfan5 |
why does the 13.04 install clang? |
| 12:04 |
Infinity_69 |
<sfan5> ubuntu 13.04 is out [Like] |
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bas0801 |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2004262013%20-%2003%3A02%3A38%20PM.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 13:06 |
[0gb_us] |
Hey, PilzAdam. |
| 13:06 |
[0gb_us] |
VanessaE: PilzAdam has returned. |
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* PilzAdam |
is on 13.04 now |
| 13:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, right. She went to bed. |
| 13:07 |
* sfan5 |
is updating to 13.04 right now |
| 13:08 |
PilzAdam |
yay! Minetest still works! |
| 13:08 |
[0gb_us] |
PilzAdam: VanessaE wants you to change the flowers ABM to avoid group:flora_avoid in addition to the current avoiding of group:flora. |
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[0gb_us] |
That way she can use the avoidance without the ABM for her poison ivy and other plants that don't work well with the ABM. |
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PilzAdam |
ubuntuusers.de saved my day :-) http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/transparenz-der-popup-meldungen-im-tray-und-de/ |
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PilzAdam |
wtf, git has changed its language to german oO |
| 13:54 |
PilzAdam |
alias git="LANG=en git" FTW |
| 13:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Maybe git detected your location, or something. |
| 13:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Or is your local system in German? |
| 13:58 |
PilzAdam |
my system language is german, but git has ignored it before I upgraded to 13.04 |
| 13:58 |
[0gb_us] |
That's odd. Maybe it's a new feature then. |
| 13:59 |
[0gb_us] |
So are you liking 13.04? I hear 12.10 was a disaster, but I never tried it myself. |
| 14:00 |
PilzAdam |
everything works as before, booting is a bit faster, I think |
| 14:01 |
PilzAdam |
and in wich way was 12.10 a "disaster"? |
| 14:02 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm not sure. I've heard stories that a lot of people really didn't like it. |
| 14:05 |
PilzAdam |
well, Unity sucks |
| 14:05 |
Kacey |
bbiab |
| 14:05 |
PilzAdam |
most people complain about that |
| 14:06 |
[0gb_us] |
Unity does suck, but was added before 12.10, so that wasn't the issue. |
| 14:06 |
[0gb_us] |
Which do you use, PilzAdam? KDE/Kubuntu? |
| 14:07 |
PilzAdam |
yes, I use KDE |
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Kacey |
back |
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* ShadowBot |
wakes up |
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* sfan5 |
haz ubuntu 13.04 |
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Infinity_69 |
hi |
| 14:43 |
Infinity_69 |
OldCoder |
| 14:43 |
Infinity_69 |
do you have a c++ compiler:_ |
| 14:43 |
Infinity_69 |
_ |
| 14:43 |
Infinity_69 |
? |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
? They are everywhere |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
Use g++ |
| 14:44 |
Infinity_69 |
im on a public pc with winXP |
| 14:44 |
[0gb_us] |
sudo apt-get install build-essentials |
| 14:44 |
Infinity_69 |
limited memory |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
What are you asking, exactly? |
| 14:44 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, Windows? That doesn't work on Windows. |
| 14:44 |
Infinity_69 |
could you compile a program for me :) |
| 14:44 |
Infinity_69 |
yeah, no s***t xD |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
Into what? |
| 14:45 |
Infinity_69 |
exe :) |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
Yes but not for two months |
| 14:45 |
Infinity_69 |
.cpp to .exe |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
Yes but not for two months |
| 14:45 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 14:45 |
Infinity_69 |
WHY NOT?! |
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sfan5 |
Infinity_69: one sec |
| 14:45 |
Infinity_69 |
WHERE U B? |
| 14:45 |
Infinity_69 |
ooo... :D |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
Because I am dealing with stuff... and I think you know about it |
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PilzAdam |
Infinity_69, I could compile it for you |
| 14:46 |
Infinity_69 |
really? |
| 14:46 |
Infinity_69 |
yay thanks :D |
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Infinity_69 |
ill give you the link later on... |
| 14:46 |
sfan5 |
Infinity_69: http://79.235.23.42:8888/compile |
| 14:46 |
sfan5 |
use that |
| 14:46 |
sfan5 |
it'll compile it online |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
wait wtf?! |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
THANKS ALOT |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
IVE BEEN SEARCHING THIS FOR A LONG TIME |
| 14:47 |
sfan5 |
well, actually it'll compile it on my computer |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
sorta... |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
-.- |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
and can i reach it? |
| 14:47 |
sfan5 |
yes, otherwise that would make no sense |
| 14:47 |
Infinity_69 |
how |
| 14:48 |
Infinity_69 |
IP/myFile.exe? |
| 14:48 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 14:48 |
sfan5 |
just compile it and it will give you a link to the .exe |
| 14:48 |
Infinity_69 |
where is IOSTREAM? |
| 14:48 |
sfan5 |
you need to select c++ |
| 14:48 |
Infinity_69 |
#include <iostream> |
| 14:49 |
Infinity_69 |
alot of errors xD |
| 14:50 |
sfan5 |
Infinity_69: try #include <cstdlib> |
| 14:50 |
Infinity_69 |
got it |
| 14:50 |
Infinity_69 |
why? |
| 14:50 |
sfan5 |
nvm |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: its written in pyhon with tornado web |
| 14:51 |
Infinity_69 |
yeah :D |
| 14:51 |
Infinity_69 |
thanks alot |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
*python |
| 14:51 |
Infinity_69 |
can i get the source code? |
| 14:51 |
Infinity_69 |
oh... |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
why? |
| 14:51 |
Infinity_69 |
i thought i could put it up on my site :D |
| 14:51 |
Infinity_69 |
and credit you...of course |
| 14:52 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: you mean compile-weloJE.exe? |
| 14:53 |
sfan5 |
Infinity_69: why are you compiling the same program over and over? |
| 14:53 |
Infinity_69 |
not the same program...i had a bug in it : |
| 14:53 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 14:53 |
Infinity_69 |
sorry... |
| 14:54 |
sfan5 |
you can even compile program for android |
| 14:54 |
Infinity_69 |
you should script it so that it will delete the compiled files every 1h/2h |
| 14:54 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: text highlighting and other things: http://codemirror.org |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
*.net |
| 14:55 |
Infinity_69 |
yeah, i saw that :D |
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sfan5 |
brb, going to restart |
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Infinity_69 |
oh ok |
| 15:03 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 15:03 |
Infinity_69 |
so thats why i cant connect xD |
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sfan5 |
Infinity_69: http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8888/compile |
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Infinity_69 |
oh :D |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: it won't link with it anyway |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: i see german comments in your code.. |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: GOTO is bad IMO |
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Jordach |
sfan5, http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8888/compile/result-62eSCG.pyc |
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* Infinity_69 |
using Code::Blocks |
| 15:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, webchat got unquieted, that means it is only a matter of time before we get spammed again (although my bot could help with that) |
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[0gb_us] |
I think the web chat is a great tool. Sometimes I can't connect directly from my computer for some reason. It was annoying to be on mute when I have to use the web chat to get on. |
| 15:33 |
ShadowNinja |
Use ssh or a client, you can still PM and there isn't realy a better way to block the spam, however my bot can kick for spaming, better than a quiet but some spam will get through before it activates |
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| 15:33 |
Exio |
goto is not bad |
| 15:33 |
Exio |
an overuse of it, is |
| 15:33 |
[0gb_us] |
My client won't connect sometimes. That's my point. |
| 15:34 |
[0gb_us] |
And how do I ssh to IRC? |
| 15:34 |
Exio |
you don't ssh to irc |
| 15:34 |
Exio |
you ssh to a server what has a irc client connected |
| 15:34 |
ShadowNinja |
Well I am using a bouncer now, you can use irssi in a screen or tmux session to simulate that |
| 15:35 |
Exio |
weechat + screen here :D |
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[0gb_us] |
Hmm. Well, I don't think the client is the issue. It says it's failing to authenticate, so something is unable to respond, or something. |
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Exio |
? |
| 15:36 |
Exio |
what are you doing |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
guys awesome news |
| 15:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Just trying to log into IRC. |
| 15:37 |
Exio |
how? :) |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
today is my sister's birthday |
| 15:37 |
[0gb_us] |
By opening the client. That's all. I don't even need to try to join a room, and it fails to authenticate. |
| 15:38 |
[0gb_us] |
jojoa1997|Tablet: Congradulations. |
| 15:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
0gb want to know what she said to me this morning? |
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[0gb_us] |
OKay. |
| 15:39 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
"YOu better not be here annoying me when they are here. You promise right?" and last time i was eating and she said i was annoying here |
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* jojoa1997|Tablet |
hides in his room |
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[0gb_us] |
Hmm. |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
brotherly and sisterly love right? |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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Jordach |
hey mauvebic, Calinou |
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Calinou |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
fake quote: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86677#p86677 |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, ban |
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Calinou |
lool |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
any excuse is good |
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Calinou |
the bigger your post count is, the bigger your nyan cat is! |
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* PilzAdam |
has a bigger nyancat than Calinou |
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Jordach |
i have the biggest bitches |
| 15:52 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, too big hurts |
| 15:52 |
Jordach |
do we have an agreement? |
| 15:53 |
Jordach |
thats what she said |
| 15:53 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?section=about&id=332 |
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Jordach |
new signiture get |
| 15:53 |
* rubenwardy |
made a bread node with my node box editor |
| 15:53 |
rubenwardy |
*his |
| 15:53 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i made a bookcase |
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Calinou |
you're fast, Jordach :P |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
(well, she said too) |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i sit on IRC all day, whatddya think i dop |
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Jordach |
-p |
| 15:54 |
rubenwardy |
*thats what she said |
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* PilzAdam |
is so famous, hes quoted in the signature of the forum user with the biggest nyan cat! |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
hey, I'm quoted in MY signature |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
s/PilzAdam/Calinou |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
oh oh i dea |
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Jordach |
idea* |
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* rubenwardy |
is 12th in the list of most posts |
| 15:55 |
Calinou |
the worst part about UDP jokes is that |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
put vanessa,e in place :) |
| 15:55 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, n00b |
| 15:55 |
rubenwardy |
I am 2000 posts behind Jordach |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
haha |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
ive been here less time than Calinou, and i know more of the engine than anyone else except c55 |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
(and kahrl) |
| 15:56 |
PilzAdam |
ehm |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
PilzAdam: I have more posts than c55. Does that make c55 a n00b compared to me? |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, not code wise |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
as in, how the actual game plays out |
| 15:57 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, c55 probably doesnt know how to craft obsidian glass |
| 15:57 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 15:57 |
PilzAdam |
he doesnt play the game anymore |
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| 15:58 |
rubenwardy |
not surprized |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
surprised |
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Jordach |
** |
| 15:59 |
rubenwardy |
meh |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, the "thats what she said" joke in your signature isnt good, because its intentional |
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PilzAdam |
*was |
| 15:59 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i was going to put mrs. ezekowitz's first name there |
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Jordach |
just for the lulz |
| 16:00 |
PilzAdam |
fake quote? |
| 16:00 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, ban |
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Jordach |
oh haha |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
wow, i made a ctcp time and i never got the responce |
| 16:01 |
rubenwardy |
response |
| 16:01 |
rubenwardy |
response |
| 16:01 |
rubenwardy |
** |
| 16:01 |
rubenwardy |
woops |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
bbiab |
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Jordach |
need reboot |
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ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: Can you please pull this now? https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/30 |
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ShadowNinja |
Also, I have been having an issue with the death drops in your item_drop mod(or rather technics copy of it) pos.y = pos.y+1 seems to set it about ten nodes up, also the items can drop on the player and he can pick them back up, did you fix that? (I have an idea how to, setting pickups to only happen for alive players) |
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PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, its fixed in my item_drop mod |
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PilzAdam |
technics copy is AFAIK outdated |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
^ RealBadAngel |
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rubenwardy |
hm... |
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rubenwardy |
what shall I do... |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/common: Add a configuration setting to disable fire burning. dea74bd4d9 2013-04-26T09:21:50-07:00 http://git.io/8XxSTQ |
| 16:25 |
ShadowNinja |
Thanks! |
| 16:26 |
[0gb_us] |
Wow, you actually got him to pull that. Congratulations! |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
hey 0gb |
| 16:28 |
[0gb_us] |
Hey, Jordach. |
| 16:31 |
PilzAdam |
[0gb_us], Im actually not as evil as you may think |
| 16:32 |
[0gb_us] |
You may not be evil, but you turned down a similar config setting in lava, PilzAdam. |
| 16:32 |
PilzAdam |
the lava thing is completly different |
| 16:32 |
[0gb_us] |
Saying the game maker should make the choice, not the user. The fire has the same concept. |
| 16:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Lava is not different. |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
fire acutally can cause massive damage |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
now the admin can just do /set disable_fire true |
| 16:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Yes, and if that damage is part of the game, it's part of the game. |
| 16:34 |
[0gb_us] |
And an admin should ba able to set lava to renew. |
| 16:35 |
[0gb_us] |
Also, the client should be able to set the camera to not jerk when the player is damaged. Settings are good. |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: what does that do? |
| 16:58 |
Jordach |
sfan5, print 'fuck this shit' |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: no! the code is "print 'fuk you bitch.'" |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
heh |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
99% of things compiled are for windows |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
usually. |
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* ShadowBot |
wakes up |
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sfan5 |
brb restarting |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5 mjus |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
meh |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5 must use some kind of proxy |
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Jordach |
rubenwardy, he uses a bouncer |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
I assume it records messages for him |
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Jordach |
rubenwardy, correct |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: yes it does |
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Jordach |
done it fucking twice now] |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
-] |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
pissed up the xubuntu 12.04 iso download from chrome |
| 17:08 |
sfan5 |
use aria2c |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
fuck that |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
sfan5, im going to be re-modeling my partitions |
| 17:09 |
Kacey |
we need an applied energistics mod... |
| 17:09 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hluPGpkLUZ0 |
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thexyz |
Jordach: isn't 13.04 out? |
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Jordach |
thexyz, im using it for re-modeling my mbr partitions |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
oh god why |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
http://www.sysresccd.org/ |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
that's all you need |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
(and more) |
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Jordach |
thexyz, xubuntu isos come with gparted |
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[0gb_us] |
PilzAdam and VanessaE are using 13.04, so I assume it is out. |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
that's not a very good idea |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
they also come with load of other shit you won't need for that |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
just use sysresccd |
| 17:12 |
thexyz |
it's really awesome, etc, etc |
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* Jordach |
prefers a LTS to a 9 month supported release |
| 17:14 |
thexyz |
isn't rolling better for desktop? |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
[0gb_us]: i' also using 13.04 |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
but bumblebee messed up |
| 17:14 |
Jordach |
fumblebee |
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* sfan5 |
agrees with thexyz about sysresccd being awesome |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
brb restarting again *sigh* |
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* ShadowBot |
wakes up |
| 17:15 |
[0gb_us] |
Jordach, I'm still on 12.04 LTS. |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
YAY |
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Jordach |
im deaf because of earwax |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
(left ear)# |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
so im going to blow it apart with bass |
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rubenwardy |
Added snapping to the node box editor: https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/commit/0bba423db5ebcda5fe147e6a2f200f789d909897 |
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sfan5 |
damnit! driver still doesn't wokr |
| 17:19 |
sfan5 |
*work |
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Calinou |
sfan5: be quiet and do my 13.04 QA! >:( |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
:> |
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Jordach |
sfan5, told you, 12.04 is better |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
you use 12.10, not 12.04 |
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thexyz |
muh |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
just use gentoo already |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
your problems won't be so boring |
| 17:21 |
Jordach |
arch |
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thexyz |
arch is fine as well |
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sfan5 |
brb, restarting |
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* ShadowBot |
wakes up |
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sfan5 |
yay! nvidia gpu finally works |
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Calinou |
protip: switch to nouveau when upgrading |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
or just reinstall |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, the old driver works flawlessly after the upgrade for me |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
(/me has still upgraded the driver) |
| 17:45 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: you don't have an integrated gpu (nvidia optimus) don't you? |
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Jordach1 |
i cant use anything above 304.xx |
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* sfan5 |
uses nvidia-304 |
| 17:45 |
Jordach1 |
high five |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, I have GTX 460 |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: I have 520m |
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sfan5 |
+GT |
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iqualfragile |
i have an GeForce 9600 GT and since yesterday im using nouveau and it works great, the only things i had to do was recompiling the kernel (i needet to use the 3.9 because there were some changes) and changing the fan management mode to automatic which i acomplish by using pm utils |
| 17:51 |
iqualfragile |
(in previous versions there was no way to controll my fan so it just spun at 100% and 100% is f***ing loud) |
| 17:51 |
mauvebic |
have that problem on the p4 lol |
| 17:52 |
mauvebic |
that and automatic underclocking |
| 17:53 |
iqualfragile |
yeah, reclocking is still a bit experimental with nouveau and i have not tried it yet (and i wont until i really need that extra bit of performance) |
| 17:54 |
mauvebic |
well im pretty sure me its just the proc., though with vlc and filters using the hard drive as a buffer, who knows lol |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: 40% is loud on my 570 already |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
45% is very loud, never went above |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
I just force at 40% |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
sfan5: don't ask why |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
low end cards == shit drivers |
| 17:56 |
mauvebic |
youd be surprised, i still need the latest nvidia drivers for a card i pay 60$ a year ago |
| 17:56 |
iqualfragile |
im at 35% at the moment and its allright |
| 17:57 |
sokomine |
i'm still uncertain what to buy. for most purposes, a cheap celeron would be more than enough. but how will that one's igp fare with minetest? a slightly larger view range (= more trees visible) would be nice... |
| 17:57 |
iqualfragile |
you could use nouveau its allright for minetest |
| 18:03 |
mauvebic |
im guessing nouveau works much better on irrlicht than it does blurays lol |
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| 18:04 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: lol, low end card |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
sokomine: celeron G1610 + IGP => about 30 FPS without shaders |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
with view range 64 |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
that's a bet |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
if you wanted 60 FPS with shaders, you would need a G1610 + 660 |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: 20FPS, sure |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
on a card that can do 300 |
| 18:05 |
iqualfragile |
nobody needs 60 fps |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
using an alternative driver is stupid |
| 18:05 |
mauvebic |
<Calinou> mauvebic: lol, low end card : well it was a P4 lol |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
lol, "eyes only see 24" BS |
| 18:05 |
iqualfragile |
no its not |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
it is |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
eyes don't see frames |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
set your fps_max to 24 and see iqualfragile |
| 18:05 |
iqualfragile |
i know |
| 18:05 |
sokomine |
calinou: hm, doesn't sound too bad. generally, down to 15 fps may be acceptable |
| 18:05 |
iqualfragile |
i have that setting |
| 18:05 |
iqualfragile |
and its allright |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
30FPS => playable, 60FPS = fluid |
| 18:06 |
iqualfragile |
(well max_fps=30 wanted_fps=24 |
| 18:06 |
iqualfragile |
) |
| 18:06 |
mauvebic |
im not even sure the latest cards would work with such an old mobo/proc? |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
wanted_fps should always be 30 |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
more or less hurts performance |
| 18:06 |
sokomine |
what are shaders good for anyway? apart from taking up lots of ressources |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: does your mobo support PCI-E 2.0? |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
if so then you can put a recent card |
| 18:06 |
mauvebic |
how old is that? |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
sokomine: better lighting, more possibilities, more modern |
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| 18:06 |
Calinou |
on a few cards you can even get more fps with them |
| 18:06 |
iqualfragile |
sokomine: shaders are awsome and actualy save a SHITLOAD of resources |
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| 18:07 |
mauvebic |
my nvidia card plugs in the first one here: http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/operab/2010-07-08_021703_PCI_PCIe_Slots.jpg |
| 18:07 |
* arsdragonfly |
is surprised to see that on open up of the irc client |
| 18:08 |
iqualfragile |
well at least they are the best known thing to calculate some efects |
| 18:08 |
iqualfragile |
btw: we need normal/bumpmap support for minetest (or is it there allready?) |
| 18:08 |
sokomine |
oh? thought they just used lots of ressources for (to me) hardly any difference. but that may be due to my 5-year-old onboard-gpu |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
there isn't iqualfragile |
| 18:09 |
iqualfragile |
thats sad |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
sokomine: on IGP, shaders do suck |
| 18:09 |
mauvebic |
though at least the p4 autodetect if theres a card (onboard graphics shitty lol) the last time i changed a vid card on a much older comp i had to literally flick a jumper |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
uh uh, restricted BIOS mauvebic :P |
| 18:09 |
arsdragonfly |
I only have a secondhand fx5200 |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
phoenixbios/awardbios = lol |
| 18:09 |
iqualfragile |
they can improve the appereace of a game a lot |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
with MCE, not using shaders looks ugly :P |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
(the pack) |
| 18:10 |
mauvebic |
thats not my motherboard :p |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
gtg, bye |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: if you bought your PC from an OEM then you have a 100% chance to have a restricted BIOS |
| 18:11 |
mauvebic |
so did my router lol |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
it would be less important for the router |
| 18:11 |
arsdragonfly |
Yes it is |
| 18:12 |
arsdragonfly |
I have a router which my ISP provided me with |
| 18:12 |
mauvebic |
theyre all easy to flash |
| 18:12 |
arsdragonfly |
jesus christ I can't even do port forwarding without cracking |
| 18:12 |
mauvebic |
thats the thing, they made me pay for the modem/router, and you can't use it for any other isp |
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mauvebic |
its like my phone that advertises tethering but theres no option in the system, so i put cyanogen lol |
| 18:13 |
arsdragonfly |
not any other router,in my case |
| 18:14 |
arsdragonfly |
there are 2 accounts |
| 18:14 |
arsdragonfly |
the user admin can almost do nothing |
| 18:15 |
arsdragonfly |
and a backdoor telecom admin:P |
| 18:16 |
mauvebic |
they dont need backdoors lol they control the passageway, unless you go nuts with proxies and tor |
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mauvebic |
and even thats not 100% lol |
| 18:17 |
arsdragonfly |
lol I simply turned that off |
| 18:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
I tried to do a Let's Play of Realtest. What a failure. Looks like they're doing nice though. Kind of stinks that the main system for cooking is completely broken though. |
| 18:19 |
mauvebic |
can you cook delicious bacon with it? |
| 18:19 |
arsdragonfly |
believe it or not,the turn-off option is accessible from the config menu |
| 18:20 |
arsdragonfly |
and the password was never changed back since then :P |
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mauvebic |
got dang it, the allergie pills, they do nothing |
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bcnjr5 |
Hey Calinou. |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
hi |
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[0gb_us] |
Installing desktops on a virtual machine is SO SLOW ... |
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| 18:47 |
bcnjr5 |
I tried asking lua-related questions on stackoverflow. I am now banned for some reason? |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us]: depends on your connection speed for 90% of things |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
allocate ALL the CPU resources for your machine, too! |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
bcnjr5: that's stackoverflow |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
anti-spam probably? |
| 18:48 |
bcnjr5 |
I asked 2 questions. |
| 18:48 |
[0gb_us] |
I allocated as much as VirtualBox would let me without telling me off. |
| 18:49 |
[0gb_us] |
It kept freezing with the default resource allocation. |
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| 18:54 |
bcnjr5 |
How do I include a file in lua? (Like #include "stdio.h" but for lua) |
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[0gb_us] |
dofile() |
| 18:56 |
[0gb_us] |
dofile9"stdio.lua") |
| 18:56 |
[0gb_us] |
dofile("stdio.lua") |
| 18:56 |
bcnjr5 |
Thanks! |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
tip: minetest.get_modpath |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
dofile(minetest.get_modpath("moreblocks").."/stairsplus/slabs.lua") |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
loads ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/calinou_mods/moreblocks/stairsplus/slabs.lua in my case |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
(symlinks ftw) |
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| 18:58 |
bcnjr5 |
I was wondering why it seemed too simple... |
| 18:58 |
bcnjr5 |
lol |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
I used that example so that you know you can open inside a subdirectory in a mod dir |
| 18:59 |
bcnjr5 |
I know. It is kind of like C. |
| 19:01 |
kahrl |
it's funny when you look at random code and see some random bits of minetest code |
| 19:01 |
kahrl |
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45547&view=previous |
| 19:01 |
bcnjr5 |
but without ; after everything |
| 19:02 |
iqualfragile |
[0gb_us]: does your cpu support virtualisation? when it does its your hdds fault |
| 19:02 |
kahrl |
there's some makeCuboid stuff but also notably the "FIXME: Meshbuffer ran out of indices" thing :-) |
| 19:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hello, kahrl! |
| 19:03 |
kahrl |
hey there |
| 19:03 |
[0gb_us] |
I think my CPU supports virtualization, due to being able to run a 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host. |
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| 19:04 |
Calinou |
irrlicht got famous due to us, I guess, kahrl :> |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
before it was only a Q3A map viewer :> |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
the late iqual: you can't virtualize anything with HW virt, or very slowly (but virtualbox won't boot) |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
[0gb_us]: IIRC your cpu just needs to support long mode (64bit) |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
some friend of me experienced that with his mobile pentium :3 |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us]: O_o |
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| 19:05 |
Calinou |
mixing 64 bit and 32 bit in both ways isn't good practice |
| 19:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Calinou: It was an experiment. I use 64 bit on 64 bit normally. |
| 19:07 |
Jordach1 |
thats what she said |
| 19:08 |
bcnjr5 |
Is there a way to do something like extern "c" in lua? |
| 19:08 |
bcnjr5 |
wait nvm |
| 19:08 |
[0gb_us] |
os.execute("file") |
| 19:08 |
bcnjr5 |
Of course not. That defeats the purpose of LUA. |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
with .so files, /somehow/ |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
see the IRC mod |
| 19:09 |
Calinou |
you have to compile some code to run it |
| 19:09 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3905 |
| 19:11 |
rubenwardy1 |
Calinou: It worked straight away for me |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
huh |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
could you set up the bot so that he joins a channel and stuff? |
| 19:11 |
* Jordach1 |
slaps [0gb_us] with Microsoft Vista |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
or did you just download binaries? |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
"microsoft vista" isn't an OS, Jordach1. |
| 19:12 |
* Calinou |
whips Jordach1 with another SATA cable |
| 19:12 |
Jordach1 |
you missed. |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
now I have 0, 2 of them are used, 1 of them is broken (4 were bundled with my mobo) |
| 19:13 |
rubenwardy1 |
bye all |
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| 19:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wish there were a way to do client side mods through the server. |
| 19:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
For mods like, running, eating, breathing, etc. So the client doesn't experience lag and such. |
| 19:18 |
bcnjr5 |
jordan4ibanez: There is a game called blockland that does that. |
| 19:18 |
bcnjr5 |
jordan4ibanez: I have no Idea how. |
| 19:18 |
bcnjr5 |
*idea |
| 19:19 |
Jordach1 |
i might to test out that game mauvebic was playing |
| 19:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well it should be limited to player physics, fov, etc. Things that are client-side only. |
| 19:20 |
* [0gb_us] |
slaps Jordach1 with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS |
| 19:20 |
* Jordach1 |
locks [0gb_us]'s hardware to Windows |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
jordan4ibanez: player physics? we can already do that |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
I'd like to see eye height (and collision radius automagically adjusted proportionally) adjustable though |
| 19:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
No, client side. |
| 19:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
That would be cool. |
| 19:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
You could have dwarves with that. |
| 19:21 |
bcnjr5 |
the player classes mod. |
| 19:22 |
[0gb_us] |
Jordach1: How can you lock a system that isn't even on my computer? |
| 19:22 |
Jordach1 |
uh oh |
| 19:22 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm? |
| 19:23 |
Jordach1 |
[0gb_us], im interested in the game mauvebic gort |
| 19:23 |
Jordach1 |
got* |
| 19:23 |
Jordach1 |
and im going to be installing windows vista |
| 19:23 |
Jordach1 |
<Jordach> Windows 7 is yo mamma; FAT |
| 19:23 |
[0gb_us] |
Ah. I see. Why did you slap ME wit h"Microsoft Vista" then? |
| 19:24 |
Jordach1 |
because i forgot the prefix |
| 19:24 |
[0gb_us] |
*with |
| 19:24 |
[0gb_us] |
No, why did you slap *ME* with it? |
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| 19:25 |
bcnjr5 |
I have Windows 8. It has too many security thingys for me to rum my own OS. |
| 19:25 |
bcnjr5 |
*run |
| 19:26 |
Jordach1 |
[0gb_us], you hate windows |
| 19:26 |
bcnjr5 |
It would be nice if typing *word would replace word. |
| 19:27 |
* bcnjr5 |
starts up Code::Blocks and creates new project. |
| 19:27 |
[0gb_us] |
Yes, I do. Keep it away from me! |
| 19:29 |
bcnjr5 |
(<[0gb_us]> Yes, I do. Keep it away from me!) -- The preceding comment has been processed by Windows. |
| 19:29 |
* Calinou |
plays xonotic overkill |
| 19:29 |
[0gb_us] |
It can be processed by Windows. I know it will be, Windows clients connect to this channel too. |
| 19:29 |
* sfan5 |
has played some redeclipse |
| 19:30 |
* bcnjr5 |
uses Windows 8. |
| 19:30 |
bcnjr5 |
[0gb_us]: http://prntscr.com/129px7 |
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| 19:33 |
Jordach1 |
bcnjr5, using faces of dissaproval? |
| 19:33 |
Jordach1 |
oh, and g chrome high five |
| 19:33 |
* bcnjr5 |
gives Jordach1 a high five. |
| 19:34 |
bcnjr5 |
(✌ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞ |
| 19:35 |
[0gb_us] |
What's with the screenshot? |
| 19:35 |
[0gb_us] |
I don't get it. |
| 19:35 |
bcnjr5 |
It's Windows. |
| 19:35 |
[0gb_us] |
So? |
| 19:36 |
[0gb_us] |
It's Windows, but it's not anywhere near me. |
| 19:36 |
bcnjr5 |
٩◔̯◔۶ |
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| 19:42 |
iqualfragile |
if you ever need to compile your kernel on your own |
| 19:42 |
iqualfragile |
REMOVE INITRD |
| 19:43 |
iqualfragile |
it will speed up the boot process a _lot_ |
| 19:43 |
[0gb_us] |
Will it have any ill effects though? |
| 19:43 |
iqualfragile |
no, not unless you are using some strange hardware |
| 19:44 |
iqualfragile |
just try it out and do not uninstall your old kernel, then (in case of emergency) you can just boot your old one |
| 19:45 |
iqualfragile |
and compress the kernel using lzo |
| 19:47 |
* [0gb_us] |
booted into an Openbox session, and is now unable to do anything |
| 19:47 |
Jordach1 |
serves you right for not using windows |
| 19:47 |
iqualfragile |
rightklick |
| 19:47 |
Jordach1 |
<joke> |
| 19:48 |
[0gb_us] |
Any idea how to get out besides reboot? |
| 19:48 |
[0gb_us] |
Thanks! |
| 19:48 |
iqualfragile |
Jordach1: i hope you ment </joke> |
| 19:48 |
[0gb_us] |
Jordach1: No, it's what I get for installing a bunch of desktops to try out. |
| 19:48 |
iqualfragile |
i have setled for kde |
| 19:48 |
Jordach1 |
ugh |
| 19:48 |
Jordach1 |
eww |
| 19:48 |
iqualfragile |
but im not realy using it… |
| 19:48 |
bcnjr5 |
•_•) In Windows. |
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| 19:48 |
bcnjr5 |
( •_•)>âŒâ– -â– |
| 19:48 |
iqualfragile |
bcnjr5: yeah, boooooring, nobody cares |
| 19:49 |
bcnjr5 |
(âŒâ– _â– ) There is only one desktop. |
| 19:49 |
[0gb_us] |
What desktop? |
| 19:49 |
Kacey |
we need an applied energistics mod... |
| 19:49 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hluPGpkLUZ0 |
| 19:49 |
iqualfragile |
its just alt+f2 and alt+tab and ctrl+alt+arrows |
| 19:49 |
iqualfragile |
bcnjr5: wronk, you have your ugly metro shit and the vista-desktop |
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| 19:50 |
bcnjr5 |
Really? |
| 19:50 |
[0gb_us] |
bcnjr5: What desktop? |
| 19:50 |
bcnjr5 |
I am pretty sure there is 1 desktop. |
| 19:50 |
Kacey |
bcnjr5, yes windows 8 has the metro crap and then the normal desktop |
| 19:51 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, in WIndows. Never mind then. |
| 19:51 |
bcnjr5 |
•_•) I |
| 19:51 |
bcnjr5 |
( •_•)>âŒâ– -â– |
| 19:51 |
bcnjr5 |
(âŒâ– _â– ) Have no idea what metro is. |
| 19:52 |
[0gb_us] |
bcnjr5: Metro is the Windows version of Unity. |
| 19:52 |
bcnjr5 |
You mean Unity 3d? |
| 19:53 |
[0gb_us] |
Unity the desktop interface. |
| 19:53 |
bcnjr5 |
I'll just google it. |
| 19:53 |
[0gb_us] |
Google what? |
| 19:53 |
bcnjr5 |
"windows metro" |
| 19:53 |
[0gb_us] |
Never mind. |
| 19:54 |
[0gb_us] |
I misread, I thought you told me to Google something. |
| 19:56 |
bcnjr5 |
◉︵◉ How did I not notice Metro!? |
| 19:57 |
bcnjr5 |
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 19:57 |
STHGOM |
HOW DO YOU DO THOSE FACES?!?!?!?! |
| 19:57 |
bcnjr5 |
Darn, wrong face. |
| 19:58 |
khonkhortisan |
ctrl-shift-u is the linux alt equivalent |
| 20:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol metro is not Windows' version of Unity 3d. |
| 20:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
Metro is Windows' "solution" to the intertwining of mobile/desktop environments. |
| 20:02 |
khonkhortisan |
ctrl-shift-u 250C 2510 10 2514 2518 ┌â”└┘ |
| 20:02 |
khonkhortisan |
aw |
| 20:03 |
[0gb_us] |
And that's what Unity is. I'm not sure if Unity 3D is the Unity I'm talking about. |
| 20:03 |
[0gb_us] |
!g Unity 3D |
| 20:03 |
MinetestBot |
[0gb_us]: http://unity3d.com/ |
| 20:03 |
khonkhortisan |
┌┠|
| 20:03 |
khonkhortisan |
└┘ |
| 20:03 |
[0gb_us] |
No, I'm not talking about Unity 3D. |
| 20:03 |
khonkhortisan |
000A is newline |
| 20:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Unity is not that. Unity started off as a desktop environment for touchpad PCs around ubuntu 10.04. |
| 20:03 |
[0gb_us] |
Unity is a desktop interface. |
| 20:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Touchpad/notepad. |
| 20:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
No it's not. It originally was, but it is now a desktop environment. |
| 20:04 |
khonkhortisan |
â” |
| 20:04 |
khonkhortisan |
┘ |
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| 20:04 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm not sure what the difference is, but my point is that the Unity I'm referring to isn't a game engine. |
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| 20:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
It and gnome were originally 2 seperate entities, which I hated, but in 11.04 they started to combine them together. |
| 20:05 |
bcnjr5_ |
Could an op please kick me? |
| 20:05 |
STHGOM_ |
? |
| 20:06 |
STHGOM_ |
cant you quit? |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
jordan4ibanez: it's perfectly usage on desktps |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
there is a game engine named unity, [0gb_us] |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
unity 3D |
| 20:06 |
bcnjr5_ |
I timed out. |
| 20:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have no idea what point you were trying to convey, Calinou. |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
Kacey: with classicshell you can remove the whole modern UI thing |
| 20:06 |
bcnjr5_ |
Now I have an _ |
| 20:06 |
STHGOM |
/nick bcnjr5 |
| 20:06 |
bcnjr5_ |
good |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
erm, the other guy timed out |
| 20:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Calinou: I know there is a game engine called Unity, I'm saying that the Unity I was talking to is NOT the game engine. |
| 20:07 |
bcnjr5 |
I hate it when that happens. |
| 20:10 |
Mustek |
bcnjr5: ┬─┬ ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) |
| 20:10 |
Mustek |
don't flip any tables anymore please |
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| 20:11 |
bcnjr5 |
uh... |
| 20:12 |
bcnjr5 |
¯(°_o)/¯ |
| 20:13 |
Kacey |
we need an applied energistics mod... |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
we need a mod that implements CPUs in minetest, so that we have more powerful PCs |
| 20:18 |
[0gb_us] |
I think there's a mescons add-on for that. |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
awesome shirts:http://store.glennz.com/ |
| 20:19 |
Jordach |
http://store.glennz.com/ * |
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| 20:20 |
bcnjr5 |
¬_¬ No advertising. |
| 20:21 |
drizz |
inb4 refferal urls |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
no, these are awesome shirt |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
shirts* |
| 20:22 |
ssieb |
in Lua, does setting a table entry to nil remove it? |
| 20:22 |
[0gb_us] |
Yes. |
| 20:22 |
ssieb |
ok |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I just found uranium and didn't know what it was |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
...and marble. Huh. |
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Calinou |
Jordach: no nvidia tshirt? nope. |
| 20:27 |
* Calinou |
got a nvidia tshirt once at some video-game-related thing, but it's too small now :P |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
and I don't even have it anymore |
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bcnjr5 |
gotta go |
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jordan4ibanez |
I think I like realtest better than my own game mode! \o/ |
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jordan4ibanez |
I have to do so many things to speed it up though. |
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STHGOM |
bye |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Dont grow flora near nodes with flora_block group ba79c95dd8 2013-04-26T13:43:41-07:00 http://git.io/T7bHmQ |
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PilzAdam |
^ VanessaE |
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Telek |
That's so flora will be more spread out? |
| 20:47 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt change anything in the default game |
| 20:48 |
PilzAdam |
its just for VanessaE poison ivy mod so that flowers dont grow into the mods' "areas" |
| 20:48 |
PilzAdam |
+'s |
| 20:51 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: looks right to me. |
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[0gb_us] |
VanessaE: You'll need to update plantlife again. |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
doing it now |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
done. |
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ssieb |
Is the code in mods global or per-player? As in, if there's a variable defined in the mod, would it be visible no matter which player activated the code? |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
it depends on the part of the mod you're talking about |
| 21:03 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah. Global. |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
callbacks and stuff are per-player as long as you're using local variables, I think |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
everything else is surely global |
| 21:04 |
[0gb_us] |
At that point it's per function call, not per player. |
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VanessaE |
[0gb_us]: well if you have a callback for, say, on_punch or on_dig, that's per-player |
| 21:06 |
VanessaE |
(because it references the puncher, digger, etc.) |
| 21:06 |
ssieb |
right, but I'm referring to mod global variables, not function |
| 21:06 |
ssieb |
thank you |
| 21:06 |
[0gb_us] |
No, it does refference the player, but each time the function is called, it uses new variables. It's per call. |
| 21:08 |
sfan5 |
*yawn* |
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PilzAdam |
ssieb, all mod code runs in the same global namespace |
| 21:09 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, coffee? |
| 21:09 |
[0gb_us] |
I installed several desktops today to try them out again, and I was reminded why I don't use them. The desktops themselves are great, but installing them installs a bunch of extra applications I don't want. |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], what are you using |
| 21:10 |
khonkhortisan |
kde is one of those that installs extra |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
<[0gb_us]> xfce4 |
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PilzAdam |
[0gb_us], VM |
| 21:11 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm using GNOME fallback, as it doesn't install a bunch of garbage. But I tried out XFCE, KDE, LXDE, and maybe a couple others. |
| 21:12 |
khonkhortisan |
Unified Inventory: I took a bag from creative to my inventory, clicked the bag button, dragged the bag to bag 1, clicked bag 1. The only way back to the bags menu was to click it at the bottom (clicking the bag itself doesn't work) I then dragged bag 1 to the trash (at the bottom, because the right one is only there in crafting) and cleared my whole inventory except for that bag. I then dropped the bag in the middle of my empty |
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khonkhortisan |
inventory. |
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[0gb_us] |
!g vm |
| 21:12 |
MinetestBot |
[0gb_us]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
so tell RBA :) |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: Pine |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
PING |
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VanessaE |
(sigh) |
| 21:12 |
[0gb_us] |
PilzAdam: What about virtual machines? |
| 21:12 |
khonkhortisan |
and palm and pineapple |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
I don't have pineapples ;) |
| 21:13 |
khonkhortisan |
Was the selection box fixed on tree seeds? I should update |
| 21:13 |
PilzAdam |
[0gb_us], try different desktops there |
| 21:14 |
[0gb_us] |
PilzAdam: I did. I installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox, and installed the desktops there. |
| 21:14 |
[0gb_us] |
And they all added more applications that I don't need or want. |
| 21:14 |
PilzAdam |
well, then why do you complain about so many extra packages? |
| 21:15 |
FreeFull |
I like distros that give you a minimal base that you can build upon |
| 21:15 |
[0gb_us] |
The issue is that any one of them installs a bunch of junk, so I can't install any of them on my main system. |
| 21:15 |
celeron55 |
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| 21:15 |
celeron55 |
You should continue your writing. I'm sure, you have a great readers' base already!|What's Happening i'm |
| 21:15 |
celeron55 |
new to this, I stumbled upon this I've discovered It positively useful and it has aided me out loads. I'm |
| 21:16 |
celeron55 |
hoping to give a contribution & assist different users like its aided me. Good job. |
| 21:16 |
[0gb_us] |
Like, why do they all come with a separate web browser? I asked for a desktop, not a browser. |
| 21:16 |
celeron55 |
wordpress spam 8D |
| 21:16 |
celeron55 |
this is the most insane kind of thing in existence |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
[0gb_us], do you use the meta packages? |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us]: the world of linux DEs is like sauerbraten capture |
| 21:17 |
[0gb_us] |
PilzAdam: Maybe? |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
gtg, bye, night |
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[0gb_us] |
!g sauerbraten capture |
| 21:17 |
MinetestBot |
[0gb_us]: http://sauerbraten.org/docs/game.html |
| 21:17 |
jojoa1997 |
hi |
| 21:18 |
[0gb_us] |
Hey. |
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jojoa1997 |
the tnt is working great for minitest |
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PilzAdam |
w00t! /me's picture of a mg v7 map is on omploaders front page! |
| 21:20 |
[0gb_us] |
Ha ha, nice! |
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jordan4ibanez |
Can we use v7 mapgen yet? |
| 21:25 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, but it's all stone. |
| 21:25 |
[0gb_us] |
mg_name = v7 |
| 21:25 |
[0gb_us] |
Add that to your conf and start a world. |
| 21:27 |
jojoa1997 |
how would i make torches dig gravel and sand? |
| 21:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
I love the huge oceans. |
| 21:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mapgen is now interesting again. |
| 21:30 |
jojoa1997 |
yes it is i love it |
| 21:30 |
jojoa1997 |
jordan i am using some of your tnt code in mionitest(digging nodes and particles) |
| 21:31 |
jojoa1997 |
O.o |
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jojoa1997 |
i just climbed a mountain |
| 21:31 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, biomes are now in lua |
| 21:32 |
jojoa1997 |
jordach where |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
How would I define one? |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, mapgen V7 |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, no idea |
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Jordach |
but it can be done when its finished |
| 21:32 |
ssieb |
PilzAdam: Does that mean the variables are global between mods as well? So any mod can see another's variables? |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm |
| 21:32 |
jojoa1997 |
ok where can i define them |
| 21:32 |
khonkhortisan |
Variables _are_ global between mods unless explicitly local |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
no idea |
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PilzAdam |
ssieb, yes, if it isnt local |
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| 21:33 |
khonkhortisan |
We are currently using mapgen_v6 |
| 21:33 |
jojoa1997 |
jordach where is the stone biome defined |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, its NOT FINISHED |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
learn to read |
| 21:34 |
khonkhortisan |
Well you said "now in" |
| 21:34 |
[0gb_us] |
Stone biome is the whole world. |
| 21:34 |
[0gb_us] |
It is the only biome. |
| 21:34 |
khonkhortisan |
Stone as a surface biome, like how desert_stone can be? |
| 21:34 |
* jojoa1997 |
is playing with tnt that digs and has god physiscs |
| 21:35 |
[0gb_us] |
khonkhortisan: There is no desert stone in v7 yet. |
| 21:35 |
khonkhortisan |
If I run at a moretree, the clouds flicker |
| 21:36 |
khonkhortisan |
and the sky tries to turn black |
| 21:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'm creating a game mode like realtest, only when you die, you get banned from the world forever. Genious. |
| 21:45 |
khonkhortisan |
Being better. |
| 21:46 |
khonkhortisan |
I hear it has tall mountains |
| 21:46 |
khonkhortisan |
What if you kill someone? |
| 21:46 |
khonkhortisan |
Or last-man-standing? |
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jordan4ibanez |
If everyone dies, the world gets deleted, haha. |
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[0gb_us] |
V7 is because people are unhappy with current mapgen. So they're making a better one. |
| 21:50 |
Telek |
0gb_us: You forgot the '' around better :) |
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[0gb_us] |
You don't think it's better then? |
| 21:51 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm fairly indifferent to it myself. |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
after one hour of intense apt-get bs, it finally runs: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-260413-224940.php |
| 21:52 |
Jordach |
honestly, fuck ARM |
| 21:52 |
Jordach |
and i think i can say this: windows has gaming cut out for them |
| 21:53 |
[0gb_us] |
Meh. Games aren't worth using Windows for me. |
| 21:54 |
FreeFull |
Jordach: raspberry pi + debian? |
| 21:54 |
khonkhortisan |
The games that are worth playing my computer can't handle |
| 21:54 |
FreeFull |
Or some other ARM device? |
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Telek |
Alpha FTW! Followed by SPARC, then MIPS :) |
| 21:57 |
khonkhortisan |
heh, taking an apple makes the apple above it fall |
| 21:57 |
Telek |
Yep |
| 21:58 |
Telek |
Also burning the leaves around it. |
| 21:58 |
Telek |
I had a ground covered with them after a firestorm swept through my interconnected trees. |
| 21:58 |
Jordach |
FreeFull, the NDS uses ARM |
| 21:58 |
Jordach |
so emulating DS games is probably 600x better than on x86 |
| 21:59 |
Telek |
khonkhortisan: You haven't looked around enough then. There's plenty of games worth playing if 'visual quality' isn't the key metric :) |
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| 22:01 |
Jordach |
im rather unimaginative when it comes to rival names: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-260413-230036.php |
| 22:03 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, I usually use one of the default names. |
| 22:04 |
Renoki |
same here |
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khonkhortisan |
I like moretrees, I can make a path right through a clump of them |
| 22:05 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], i got Hugh |
| 22:06 |
Jordach |
tomorrow i will be watching Iron Man 3 |
| 22:06 |
Jordach |
(in a REAL CINEMA.) |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 22:12 |
Jordach |
ugh, i never knew 27fps was sooooo sloow |
| 22:13 |
[0gb_us] |
I do fine on 27 FPS. |
| 22:13 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], DS Emulation requires a rig like Calinou's PC |
| 22:14 |
[0gb_us] |
Ah, DS emulation. Maybe it requires more frames than Minetest. |
| 22:14 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], the DS plays at 60fps |
| 22:14 |
Jordach |
my pc plays at 17-27 |
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Jordach |
considering i actually own a DS, i know the speed diff. |
| 22:15 |
ssieb |
Lua seems so primitive... :-/ |
| 22:16 |
Jordach |
Linux 1.x seems so primitive... :-/ |
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ssieb |
just implementing a FIFO is difficult |
| 22:16 |
ssieb |
Jordach: are you saying that it's just because it's a new language? |
| 22:16 |
kaeza |
greetings |
| 22:17 |
Jordach |
hey kaeza |
| 22:17 |
[0gb_us] |
Greetings. |
| 22:17 |
Jordach |
i just got to play black 2 on a ds emu |
| 22:17 |
kaeza |
hey Jordach |
| 22:17 |
kaeza |
hey [0gb_us] |
| 22:17 |
Jordach |
i can safely say the DS is better on its own hardware |
| 22:19 |
* Jordach |
waits 8 hours for the iso to download |
| 22:19 |
ssieb |
ok, in this case it was just me misunderstanding the difference between different ways of manipulating a table |
| 22:21 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, do you have a build with latest changes? |
| 22:22 |
kaeza |
(hud_set_flags I mean) |
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Jordach |
<Jordach> I am genuinely exited about using windows |
| 22:29 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], ^ |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, tomorow |
| 22:32 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, ok |
| 22:33 |
[0gb_us] |
Jordach: I was genuinely exited at the end of last term, when I got to stop using Windows. |
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Jordach |
how dafuq does windows use less space than linux |
| 22:38 |
Jordach |
i removed win with 40gb free, linux now has 4gb free |
| 22:47 |
kaeza |
Jordach, for one, the UI is mostly integrated on the OS (speaking of files, not of functionality) |
| 22:48 |
kaeza |
whereas Linux distros may have Gtk2+Gtk3+wxWidgets+whatever |
| 22:50 |
ssieb |
Since the software is free, you tend to get a lot more software installed by default. But that still seems huge. |
| 22:50 |
kaeza |
also, you have only a handful of APIs for audio/video on Win (either WinMM or DSound) |
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kaeza |
where on Linux you have ALSA, OSS, PulseAudio, etc |
| 22:51 |
ssieb |
you only have ALSA or PulseAudio now (OSS is emulated by ALSA) |
| 22:51 |
kaeza |
there are lots of compatibility stuff in linux distros |
| 22:51 |
kaeza |
that's why they are so bloated sometimes |
| 22:51 |
ssieb |
ALSA is the actual underlying interface. PulseAudio just makes it useful. :-) |
| 22:52 |
Jordach |
!g xkcd standards |
| 22:52 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 22:52 |
kaeza |
Jordach, lol |
| 22:53 |
Jordach |
well, at least windows got it right first time |
| 22:53 |
kaeza |
Jordach, if you want a lightweight yet full-featured Linux distro, go for Puppy |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
the ISO is only ~130MB |
| 22:54 |
Jordach |
ew |
| 22:54 |
khonkhortisan |
and jackd |
| 22:55 |
[0gb_us] |
No, Windows got it wrong and never fixed it. |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
plus is uses a squashfs image to store your files |
| 22:56 |
kaeza |
there is just one minor detail |
| 22:57 |
kaeza |
well, two: it does not come with gcc and related tools, and adding multiuser support is a PITA |
| 22:57 |
Jordach |
!g define PITA |
| 22:57 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PITA |
| 22:57 |
* khonkhortisan |
saw an ostrich doing the moonwalk |
| 22:57 |
kahrl |
windows comes with a C# compiler nowadays, at least |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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Kacey |
http://xkcd.com/953/ |
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kaeza |
thexyz, I already made meh own font, thanks anyway |
| 23:05 |
Exio |
[19:51:30] <ssieb> you only have ALSA or PulseAudio now (OSS is emulated by ALSA) |
| 23:05 |
Exio |
i think someone missed jackd |
| 23:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I didn't see the punch line coming on that one |
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Exio |
ah |
| 23:07 |
Exio |
you said jackd too - sorry khonkhortisan :P |
| 23:09 |
kaeza |
Exio, connecting on 1G again :P |
| 23:09 |
kaeza |
? |
| 23:09 |
Exio |
no, now at home |
| 23:10 |
ssieb |
Exio: sure, that's at the same level as PA |
| 23:11 |
ssieb |
and they have very different uses |
| 23:11 |
Exio |
different uses? |
| 23:12 |
ssieb |
PA is for normal desktop use. jackd is for very low latency audio work |
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sokomine |
hi bas080 |
| 23:14 |
bas080 |
hey sokomine |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
hey bas |
| 23:14 |
bas080 |
kaeza! |
| 23:14 |
* sokomine |
stares at a sideway moretrees thrunk |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
hey sokomine |
| 23:15 |
bas080 |
sokomine, in aww? |
| 23:15 |
sokomine |
what does "aww" stand for? |
| 23:15 |
kaeza |
bas080, http://youtu.be/ZkqBpEAYcz4 |
| 23:16 |
kaeza |
now adding new stuff |
| 23:16 |
bas080 |
amazement |
| 23:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
If I made a TF2 mod, could someone host a server for it? |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanez, I was going to host a server when I finished firearms |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
I can host that |
| 23:17 |
sokomine |
what does the mod do? (no, i don't have a server, but there are so many out there) |
| 23:17 |
sokomine |
aah |
| 23:17 |
Exio |
er |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
!up kaeza.no-ip.org |
| 23:17 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down |
| 23:17 |
sokomine |
hm, yes, i like my new singleplayer world. your trees are in there as well, bas080 :-) |
| 23:18 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 23:18 |
bas080 |
kaeza, looking good! |
| 23:18 |
kaeza |
bas080, thanks |
| 23:19 |
kaeza |
I don't like the realistic-looking weapons |
| 23:19 |
kaeza |
I'll make some pixelated ones |
| 23:19 |
bas080 |
sokomine , glad you like it. Btw i have been building in Vivalandia map. If you have time i could show you around or you can join whenever you want. |
| 23:20 |
sokomine |
oh, fine! |
| 23:21 |
sokomine |
is your server on the public list by now? because i've only stored the ip and am not sure which one it was |
| 23:21 |
bas080 |
ip is 31.151.189.3 |
| 23:21 |
bas080 |
port 30001 |
| 23:21 |
sokomine |
figured it halfway out :-) there's whois (now that you're on irc) |
| 23:23 |
bas080 |
kaeza, Do the weapons work with an bullet entity? And is collision detection working well? |
| 23:23 |
kaeza |
bas080, no more entities |
| 23:23 |
sokomine |
bas: hm. no connection? |
| 23:24 |
bas080 |
checking for issue |
| 23:24 |
bas080 |
You can now connect. |
| 23:24 |
bas080 |
I should really make my ip static :( |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
bas080, it now casts a ray from the user and checks if there's any entity in the bule'ts path |
| 23:25 |
kaeza |
bullet's* |
| 23:25 |
kaeza |
had fun killing peaceful npcs yesterday ^^ |
| 23:25 |
bas080 |
kaeza, sounds much more reliable. And i heard camera zooming was coming to lua. So sniper with scope! |
| 23:26 |
bas080 |
:D |
| 23:26 |
kaeza |
:O |
| 23:27 |
bas080 |
sokomine, i fixed the ip forwarding |
| 23:27 |
* VanessaE |
is back |
| 23:28 |
sokomine |
poor peaceful npc! |
| 23:28 |
sokomine |
bas: i'm coming |
| 23:28 |
bas080 |
it was not in vain. kaeza was entertained. |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
bas080, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-firearms/blob/master/kutils.lua#L67 |
| 23:32 |
bas080 |
can i help to reset it for you |
| 23:32 |
bas080 |
I cleared your password |
| 23:33 |
bas080 |
You should be able to reset it in game |
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