IRC log for #minetest, 2013-01-21

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Time	Nick	Message
00:30	Forty-3	mods are installed to ~/.minetest/mods/ correct?
00:32	NakedFury	yes
00:33	Forty-3	k
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01:00	Kacey	hello
01:02	kaeza	hey
01:03	Kacey	¿cómo estás?
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01:34	* OldCoder	will be out for an hour or two but will return
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02:13	Kacey	hello
02:13	VanessaE	hi
02:14	Kacey	VanessaE, do you think mt for the 360 is a god idea?
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02:14	VanessaE	dunno, I don't have a '360
02:14	Kacey	good, even
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02:18	Dogzilla131	kaeza pm
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02:20	Dogzilla131	keaza:hi
02:20	Dogzilla131	*kaeza
02:20	kaeza	can't we discuss this here?
02:21	Dogzilla131	Ok
02:21	Dogzilla131	Did you vote from the last thing.?
02:22	kaeza	Y U NO ADD ALL?
02:22	Dogzilla131	??
02:24	Dogzilla131	??
02:25	kaeza	this one http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Labrador_Tara.jpg
02:25	kaeza	gawd
02:25	VanessaE	awww
02:26	Dogzilla131	Ok
02:26	Dogzilla131	Do you want to vote VanessaE
02:26	VanessaE	no
02:26	Dogzilla131	Why?
02:27	VanessaE	because I have no idea, for starters, what I'd be voting on :)
02:27	Dogzilla131	Oh this
02:28	Dogzilla131	Vote for which of these are the cuttest
02:28	Dogzilla131	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Labrador_Tara.jpg
02:28	Dogzilla131	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Labrador_-_Maniche3.jpg
02:28	Dogzilla131	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Labrador_-_Maniche.jpg
02:28	Dogzilla131	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Black_Labrador_Puppy.jpg
02:28	Dogzilla131	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Black_Labrador_Pup.jpg
02:29	kaeza	...
02:29	VanessaE	the last one.
02:30	VanessaE	File:Labrador_-_Maniche.jpg is a close second.
02:30	Dogzilla131	Ok so 1 vote for tara, and one vote for maniche
02:31	VanessaE	no
02:31	Dogzilla131	?
02:31	VanessaE	File:Black_Labrador_Pup.jpg is the cutest
02:31	VanessaE	File:Labrador_-_Maniche.jpg is a close second (as in second place in my opinion)
02:31	kaeza	no
02:31	* kaeza	is the cutest
02:32	kaeza	...maybe not
02:37	OldCoder	back
02:37	VanessaE	wb
02:38	OldCoder	ty
02:38	Dogzilla131	So which
02:38	OldCoder	vm
02:38	VanessaE	OldCoder: feel like playing with something experimental on your servers? ;)
02:38	OldCoder	Maybe
02:38	OldCoder	Mark is still
02:38	OldCoder	unhappy
02:38	OldCoder	because he says conifers
02:39	OldCoder	are rampaging across his spawn
02:39	OldCoder	I'd really like to get rid of them first
02:39	OldCoder	Is this possible"
02:39	OldCoder	Is this possible?
02:39	OldCoder	No offense to the noble trees
02:39	VanessaE	that's because they were spawning randomly.  I fixed that ages ago so they only show up at mapgen time.
02:39	OldCoder	He says they are still there
02:39	OldCoder	How do I make them go away?
02:39	VanessaE	well sure, it's not like they'll just disappear :-)
02:39	VanessaE	you'd have to write a small mod to erase them via an abm
02:40	OldCoder	Will clean
02:40	OldCoder	do it?
02:40	VanessaE	possibly so
02:40	OldCoder	We took out saplings
02:40	VanessaE	I've never used that mod
02:40	OldCoder	Hmm
02:40	OldCoder	How experimental
02:40	OldCoder	is the new thing you wish to try
02:40	OldCoder	?
02:40	VanessaE	well, it won't crash the server, and it won't spawn anything new except in new map areas...
02:40	kaeza	knowing VE mods, will prolly blow your server
02:41	kaeza	:P
02:41	kaeza	J/K
02:41	OldCoder	What is it?
02:41	VanessaE	OldCoder: trees.  lots and lots and lots of trees :)
02:41	OldCoder	We kind of have trees
02:41	* OldCoder	is dubious
02:41	* OldCoder	imagines hordes of complaints
02:41	OldCoder	Is there something
02:41	VanessaE	heh
02:41	OldCoder	special
02:42	OldCoder	about these hordes of complaint generating trees
02:42	OldCoder	That makes them worth the effort?
02:42	OldCoder	Do they grow
02:42	VanessaE	quite so, give me about 5 minutes and I'll get you a screenshot
02:42	OldCoder	Christmas Gifts
02:42	OldCoder	Automatically?
02:42	NakedFury	throw the complaints drown the toilet.
02:42	OldCoder	You are a trees fan then
02:42	NakedFury	or pass them to your assistant
02:43	VanessaE	it will not cause any complaints as I am not adding trees in realtime anymore, they'll be strictly mapgen-based.
02:43	OldCoder	Let's see the pics
02:43	VanessaE	meaning no ones structures will be overshadowed by them unless they choose to build in a forest or something.
02:43	NakedFury	Im in favor or map related features, such as trees
02:43	Dogzilla131	So which of these two are the cuttest dog
02:43	VanessaE	hold, waiting for upload...
02:43	Dogzilla131	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Black_Labrador_Pup.jpg
02:43	VanessaE	Dogzilla131: not now!
02:43	OldCoder	Woof
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02:43	Dogzilla131	Ok
02:45	VanessaE	OldCoder:
02:45	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1503088052.png
02:45	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1503697289.png
02:45	VanessaE	preview :()
02:45	VanessaE	:)
02:45	OldCoder	R
02:45	OldCoder	Can you explain what these are?
02:46	OldCoder	Basically...
02:46	VanessaE	wide-angle screenshots of the results of the experimental code in question :-)
02:46	OldCoder	Different types of trees, right? How do these connect to RBA trees?
02:46	VanessaE	there *are* RBA trees :)
02:46	VanessaE	these*
02:46	OldCoder	So...
02:46	OldCoder	You are the first
02:46	OldCoder	To take them live?
02:46	VanessaE	he and I have been hard at work turning his trees into a mod
02:46	OldCoder	Fine, let me be the second!
02:46	OldCoder	What sort of config
02:46	OldCoder	parameters are there?
02:47	VanessaE	there is so much that can be configured that I simply can't relay it all here, but briefly you can configure what kinds of biomes they spawn in and what they look like
02:47	VanessaE	dozens of parameters for each tree
02:48	OldCoder	Good
02:48	OldCoder	so
02:48	OldCoder	different worlds can be set up differently
02:48	VanessaE	yes, in theory
02:48	OldCoder	Do you have a mod with a default configuration you'd like me to try?
02:48	OldCoder	I assume this is already in Vanessa World
02:48	OldCoder	Is that correct?
02:49	VanessaE	this is not in my world, no.  Only the conifers+jungletrees version is there
02:49	OldCoder	Shall I drop it into my copy of your world?
02:49	OldCoder	Then a second version into another world?
02:49	VanessaE	no, this is best experimented with on a brand new world or one that has barely any land generated yet
02:49	VanessaE	otherwise you won't see anything new
02:51	VanessaE	OldCoder: pm
02:51	OldCoder	k
02:51	OldCoder	I have PMd
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03:01	Kacey	backz
03:01	VanessaE	kaeza: want to see a teaser image for the aforementioned mod? :-)
03:02	kaeza	sure
03:02	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1503088052.png
03:03	kaeza	that looks awesome!
03:03	* Kacey	wishes he could open multiple tabs
03:03	kaeza	so it is all done in mapgen?
03:03	kaeza	now THAT is a forest
03:04	NakedFury	im salivating over that
03:04	VanessaE	Kacey: any browser can do that
03:04	Kacey	not ie for 360
03:04	VanessaE	kaeza: yes, purely mapgen
03:04	NakedFury	the smaller trees loook like shits next to the big ones
03:04	NakedFury	small bushes
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03:05	NekoGloop	That took one hell of a long time to connect.
03:05	kaeza	hello Neko :3
03:05	NekoGloop	Meow =w=
03:06	Kacey	^_^ my phone plus xbox = unstoppable
03:07	VanessaE	NekoGloop: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1503088052.png
03:07	VanessaE	teaser :)
03:07	NekoGloop	Meow =w=
03:07	Kacey	little tree... BIGASS TREES!!!
03:08	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pes_svWSnC0
03:09	Kacey	Moo (o_o)
03:09	kaeza	NekoGloop, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4469
03:09	NekoGloop	You did what with me on the irc channels?
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03:10	kaeza	o_o'
03:10	Kacey	brb going to *atempt to* put chrome on my 360
03:10	NekoGloop	kaeza: Logs or my memory is just plain shit.
03:10	kaeza	oh just were talking the other day about metroid games and the remake in GM, remember?
03:11	NekoGloop	Oh, another metroid 2 remake
03:11	kaeza	yup
03:11	NekoGloop	I dont remember talking about lava in any shape or form though.
03:11	kaeza	and the idea of the lava suit hit me :)
03:11	kaeza	well, I took inspiration from the lava suit
03:11	kaeza	varia*
03:11	NekoGloop	Call it the gravity suit.
03:12	NekoGloop	Varia suit is acid.
03:12	NekoGloop	;-)
03:12	kaeza	yup
03:12	kaeza	but there's no acid on MT ;)
03:12	NekoGloop	The graphic for it had better damn well be purple! ;-)
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03:13	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on VanessaE's head.
03:13	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on kaeza's shoulder
03:13	* VanessaE	gently tosses the kitten into OldCoder's pile.
03:13	NekoGloop	kitten: "wheeeee~ oomph"
03:13	* kaeza	puts the kitten on VanessaE's head
03:14	* Dogzilla131	is looking at the kitten, but not harming them
03:14	* VanessaE	gently tosses the second kitten into OldCoder's pile.
03:14	* NekoGloop	puts a puppy on Dogzilla131's head
03:15	NekoGloop	...
03:15		Kacey joined #minetest
03:15	NekoGloop	random as hell awkward silence.
03:15	NekoGloop	So therefore:
03:15	NekoGloop	PIE.
03:15	Kacey	ok back
03:16	* NekoGloop	puts a CONTENT_IGNORE on Kacey's head
03:16	Kacey	(o____v
03:16	* kaeza	turns on the monotone tape recording saying "Welcome Back Kacey"
03:17	Kacey	i muffed that up lol
03:17	Kacey	(o_________o) whale
03:18	* NekoGloop	rides a royal steed into battle.
03:18	* Kacey	rides a chevy into battle
03:20	Kacey	bbiab goint to watch some youtube videos
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03:38	NekoGloop	Meow
03:38	VanessaE	meow.
03:39	kaeza	baa
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03:47	NekoGloop	mrowr.
03:48	TheZenKitteh	thefaq
03:48	TheZenKitteh	now the pun stop bots thing doesn't work in firefox either
03:49	NekoGloop	Just repeat "fuck you" as the answer.
03:49	NekoGloop	It works eventually,
03:51	TheZenKitteh	lol finally it accepted one of the answers
03:52	TheZenKitteh	o_O?
03:54	NekoGloop	TheZenKitteh: I was being serious btw.
03:54	TheZenKitteh	serious? I thought you were being nekogloop
03:54	TheZenKitteh	lol
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04:01	TheZenKitteh	I have some odd interests
04:03	NekoGloop	TheZenKitteh: Like pie?
04:03	TheZenKitteh	like rocket stoves, scraping, wood stoves and of course minetest :P
04:05	TheZenKitteh	I get a decent thrill saving money as well
04:05	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on TheZenKitteh's head
04:05	* TheZenKitteh	pets kitty on head
04:05	TheZenKitteh	I like cats too
04:06	TheZenKitteh	lol
04:06	TheZenKitteh	sadly don't have any :(
04:06	TheZenKitteh	used to
04:06	TheZenKitteh	what's with all the people using mac
04:07	TheZenKitteh	mac sucks imo lol
04:07	TheZenKitteh	or apple related stuff
04:08	TheZenKitteh	only way id own an apple related product is if it was given to me and could run linux
04:11	VanessaE	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394
04:11	VanessaE	BAM!
04:12	VanessaE	The minetest tree revolution has arrived!
04:13	TheZenKitteh	vanessae did you update it recently?
04:13	VanessaE	just now - reload the page if necessary
04:15	TheZenKitteh	hmm doesn't another mod have rubber trees?
04:15	VanessaE	it is expected to lose them soon in favor of this mod
04:16	VanessaE	but afaik these are compatible.
04:16	TheZenKitteh	which mod was it.. technic?
04:16	VanessaE	technic or farming, I forget which
04:30	OldCoder	Hi
04:31	OldCoder	We will need to discuss these kittens
04:31	OldCoder	And deposit them gently please
04:31	OldCoder	Kitten Tossing
04:31	OldCoder	is a risky sport
04:31	TheZenKitteh	sodium, *throws a pissed off kitty at oldcoder for lulz*
04:32	* OldCoder	deftly catches it with the Kitten Katcher (tm) patented Kitten Device
04:32	TheZenKitteh	aka thick leather gloves
04:32	TheZenKitteh	:P
04:32	VanessaE	lol
04:32	* VanessaE	nonchalantly turns on Nekogloop's kitten generator and points it at oldcoder's pile
04:32	TheZenKitteh	seems kittens are made of cute fluffyness with razerbaldes for claws and teeth
04:33	VanessaE	lol
04:33	TheZenKitteh	one second you are all awwwww then next second ouch ouch ouch
04:36	* VanessaE	loves her irl kitties :-)
04:36	TheZenKitteh	any pics?
04:36	TheZenKitteh	or video?
04:36	VanessaE	of the cats?
04:36	TheZenKitteh	of course
04:36	TheZenKitteh	lol
04:36	VanessaE	um
04:37	VanessaE	lemme see if I can find them
04:38	VanessaE	https://plus.google.com/photos/115185144897764436393/albums/5808538157856315377/5808538154681749506?banner=pwa
04:38	VanessaE	that's one of them
04:39	VanessaE	Cookie
04:39	TheZenKitteh	awwww
04:39	TheZenKitteh	I can see why you named it such
04:39	TheZenKitteh	lol
04:39	VanessaE	not sure where the photos of the other one are (Jeannie)
04:40	VanessaE	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=475672939839&set=pb.506464839.-2207520000.1358743213&type=3&theater
04:40	VanessaE	there she is.
04:40	VanessaE	they've both grown a bit since these photos were taken but they still look the same :-)
04:41	TheZenKitteh	the last time I had some kitties was back around 2002
04:41	TheZenKitteh	had a pitch black one I rescued from a storm drain while visiting the mountains and a calico and a fluffy gray one
04:42	VanessaE	aw
04:42	NakedFury	you cat lovers!
04:42	TheZenKitteh	the black cat had a bit of a temper at times
04:42	TheZenKitteh	lol
04:42	VanessaE	NakedFury: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394
04:42	NakedFury	im a dog lover
04:42	VanessaE	now you can drool over them in actual use :)
04:42	TheZenKitteh	of course none liked water and they had the be bathed weekly
04:42	TheZenKitteh	I like dogs too.. but I like cats more
04:43	NakedFury	omg 12 tree types
04:43	NakedFury	im really drooling
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04:43	NakedFury	and whats more they are not minecraft clones. they are fucking awesome
04:43	VanessaE	NakedFury: more than 12 - if you count it all out, it's more like 15 or 20 :D
04:43	NakedFury	they just make me want to propose a 1 block higher default character
04:44	TheZenKitteh	I will say the moretrees mod is pretty cool.. just the default trees look fugly when next to one of the moretrees trees
04:44	VanessaE	the default trees can be disabled and replaced, but the result will be very slow
04:44	NakedFury	Vanessae i am counting 12 in the little list on that page
04:44	TheZenKitteh	why is it slow vanessae?
04:45	VanessaE	NakedFury: some trees come in multiple varieties
04:45	VanessaE	TheZenKitteh: because the map generator is slow :)
04:45	VanessaE	and hooking into it makes things even slower :)
04:45	VanessaE	this will be fixed soon-ish
04:45	TheZenKitteh	ill probably wait till that's "fixed" before I update the mod
04:45	TheZenKitteh	lol
04:46	VanessaE	TheZenKitteh: try it anyway.  you might like it :-)
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04:49	VanessaE	hey menche.
04:49	Menche	hi
04:50	Menche	seems pretty quiet now
04:50	VanessaE	Menche: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394
04:50	VanessaE	:)
04:50	VanessaE	(shameless plug since I just released it)
04:51	Menche	nice to see more tree variety
04:51	Menche	i don't understand l-systems at all :(
04:52	VanessaE	it takes some practice to get good at it, which is why RealBadAngel is the one who wrote most of the tree definitions in this mod :-)
04:52	VanessaE	we worked together on it
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05:11	VanessaE	hey Kacey.
05:12	Kacey	hi
05:12	Menche	hello Kacey
05:12	Kacey	hi Menche
05:12	VanessaE	Kacey: more trees update released :-)  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394
05:13	Kacey	im on xbox lol
05:13	VanessaE	(spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam)
05:13	VanessaE	so? :)
05:13	VanessaE	this is more important :D
05:13	kaeza	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6982907392/h37FFDFC1/
05:13	* Kacey	likes spam (the canned meat)
05:19	Kacey	kaeza: steve jobs does not have windows?
05:19	kaeza	...
05:20	Kacey	and for the longest time i thought he did. i mean you cant tell the weather without going outside or having windows
05:22	kaeza	dnftt
05:22	Kacey	?
05:22	kaeza	Not sure if trolling... or didn't get the joke
05:23	Kacey	:p
05:23	Kacey	:P
05:23	TheZenKitteh	im sure jobs had windows.. for "checking out the competition"
05:23	TheZenKitteh	he would be silly not to see what his company is up against
05:23	TheZenKitteh	I bet gates had linux.. for testing purposes
05:24	Kacey	and linux had mac...
05:24	kaeza	correction, gates HAS linux
05:24	kaeza	for Working :P
05:24	kaeza	he sells the Windows sht to other people
05:24	TheZenKitteh	microsuck relies on linux for its website caching and likely uses it elsewhere
05:24	TheZenKitteh	since it owns skype now and skype uses linux.. there ya go
05:25	TheZenKitteh	if you wanna play then get windows
05:25	TheZenKitteh	otherwise get linux
05:25	TheZenKitteh	lol
05:25	Kacey	nono
05:25	Kacey	play- mac
05:25	TheZenKitteh	mac is for media
05:25	Kacey	develope-linux
05:25	TheZenKitteh	about the only thing its good at
05:26	Kacey	sit around and wait for an update to finish-wndows
05:26	TheZenKitteh	linux is good for work. windows good for play, mac good for media related editing
05:26	* Menche	plays on linux
05:26	TheZenKitteh	menche I didn't say linux couldn't play :P
05:26	Kacey	mac is god for play because it has good graphics
05:26	kaeza	linux is getting much better for gaming
05:27	Kacey	good, even
05:27	TheZenKitteh	I tried "mac" one time on an ibook. I hated it hated it hated it. installed ubuntu on it
05:27	kaeza	Kacey, graphics != gameplay
05:27	Menche	i tried to install ubuntu on a macbook
05:27	Kacey	graphic = fps = gameplay
05:27	Menche	apple did something with the disk so the installer couldn't find it
05:27	TheZenKitteh	when it comes to gaming on linux just stick with known working gaming cards like nvidia or ati
05:28	Kacey	therefore graphics = gameplay
05:28	kaeza	...or intel
05:28	TheZenKitteh	menche you need some special edition of ubuntu but not sure if they make it anymore
05:28	TheZenKitteh	intel sucks
05:28	TheZenKitteh	I've never seen an intel card do worth a flip with any games
05:28	Menche	special edition? it is just a regular x86 processor now
05:28	kaeza	mine does
05:28	Menche	i can play minetest with like 10 fps on my netbook
05:29	VanessaE	bbl, time for bed.
05:29	VanessaE	night all.
05:29	kaeza	night V
05:29	TheZenKitteh	if its just x86 then save yourself about 500-1000 bucks and buy an x86 laptop
05:29	Kacey	mine *did* do good
05:29	TheZenKitteh	night vanessae
05:29	Menche	if i enable shaders on my netbook it looks more like a slideshow
05:29	Kacey	night v
05:29	Kacey	Menche aspireone still?
05:29	Menche	yes
05:29	TheZenKitteh	I had an hp mini
05:30	Menche	my laptop was 800 dollars and has much better specs than my dad's 1000 dollar macbook
05:30	kaeza	I had an OLPC
05:30	kaeza	:P
05:30	Kacey	mine hoers at 10 fps with shaders but i lag out easily
05:30	TheZenKitteh	the mini played minetest ok at around 20fps back in 0.4 dev when mods were new
05:30	Kacey	hovers, even
05:30	TheZenKitteh	now I bet a mini wouldn't do 10fps
05:30	TheZenKitteh	unless a total vanilla game
05:31	TheZenKitteh	portable computers just aren't made for gaming
05:31	Menche	my netbook used to run my server fine, now my pentium 4 struggles to run it
05:32	TheZenKitteh	also if you like linux.. don't get a new laptop that has that nvidia intel bastard child
05:32	Menche	optimus?
05:32	TheZenKitteh	yes
05:32	TheZenKitteh	lol
05:32	TheZenKitteh	my friend got a laptop with such and it performed horribly
05:32	Kacey	i have about 3 pentium 4s all in different computers...
05:32	Menche	wasn't that what linux torvalds' giving nvidia the finger was about?
05:32	TheZenKitteh	he tried some special drivers for it as well and still couldn't do much with it
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05:33	TheZenKitteh	I say stick with straight nvidia or straight ati and be sure they have official drivers for it available
05:33	TheZenKitteh	I like open source but when it comes to gaming you just have to get official
05:33	Menche	minetest runs pretty well with nouveau actually
05:33	Menche	but i have the official ones for other games
05:34	TheZenKitteh	I remember when 256MB graphics card did very well
05:34	TheZenKitteh	I have one now and it just can't keep up with games today
05:34	Kacey	well i am off to bed night al
05:34	TheZenKitteh	night kacey
05:34	Kacey	al, even
05:34	Kacey	all damnit
05:35	TheZenKitteh	lol
05:35	* Menche	is playing nethack. don't need much of a graphics card for that.
05:35	TheZenKitteh	mm that was a rather delicious cheapo meal I just had
05:35	TheZenKitteh	lol been awhile since I played nethack
05:36	* TheZenKitteh	still has windows 3.11 laying around somewhere
05:36	TheZenKitteh	floppies mofo (well floppy images since floppies from way back when likely would be corrupted by now
05:37	* Menche	killed a lichen with an elven arrow
05:37	TheZenKitteh	oh and if you like the old games you might like the avernum series
05:40	kaeza	Menche, Falcon's Eye?
05:40	Menche	the isometric one? i found it hard to use
05:41	Menche	it uses mostly diagonal movement iirc
05:41	kaeza	BTW have you tried IVAN?
05:41	Menche	did look nice though
05:41	Menche	?
05:41	kaeza	http://ivan.sourceforge.net/
05:42	kaeza	or DoomRL: http://doom.chaosforge.org/
05:43	Menche	nethack + doom?
05:43	Menche	looks interesting
05:43	kaeza	yup
05:44	kaeza	although I used an older version
05:44	kaeza	don't know about new features
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06:37	Kacey	hello
06:37	Menche	hi
06:38	Kacey	c======|:
06:39	Kacey	too much sugar lol
06:39	Kacey	i can has another red bull?
06:40	Kacey	Menche: have you reset the world yet?
06:41	Menche	i've restored most of the spawn city and glue city
06:41	Menche	the main server still has the old world though
06:42	Kacey	alright can you put kaceycastle or Kaceycastle near spawn sorta?
06:42	Menche	where is it?
06:42	Kacey	i saved it already
06:42	Kacey	it is either called kaceycastle or Kaceycastle
06:44	Kacey	nvm i will put it in tomorrow when i get on my computer
06:46	Menche	octupuslegs built a mall in the spawn city
06:46	Menche	where the old rainbow of wool was
06:47	* VanessaE	is back, sleepless as usual :-/
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06:49	* Kacey	puts a redbull on VanessaE's head
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06:49	Kacey	i have more
06:49	* Kacey	drinks 2 in 5 seconds
06:49	* VanessaE	drinks the red bull....   and notices no effect from it.
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06:52	* Kacey	sets a redbull on kaeza's head
06:53	* Kacey	drinks 2 more
06:55	Kacey	im of to the moon you want anything? alright brb
06:56	LunaVorax	VanessaE, RedBull doesn't affect me either, it just makes me sick
06:56	LunaVorax	And it taste bad
06:57	VanessaE	actually to be fair, it does help a little, but for some reason RipIt "F-Bomb" works better for me
06:57	VanessaE	and it's cheaper for a larger volume
06:58	Kacey	i bring moon chese
06:58	Kacey	cheese, even
07:00	VanessaE	got any triscuits + spray cheese?
07:00	VanessaE	I could go for some of that right about now
07:03	LunaVorax	brb
07:07	hmmmm	ravioli ravioli give me the formuoli
07:07	VanessaE	heh
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07:22	kaeza	comments on this? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4526
07:23	kaeza	I have the same question...
07:24	kaeza	just out of curiosity; it's not that I'll be using every part of the world anyway
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07:34	kaeza	inb4 Jordach comes in
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08:19	VanessaE	ok, time to try to sleep again.
08:20	VanessaE	Jordach: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394  and also  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
08:20	VanessaE	moretrees and pipeworks (respectively).  Both got lots of updates over the last couple of days.
08:20	* VanessaE	heads off.
08:21	* Jordach	slaps VanessaE with a large fish
08:21	Oblivion1500	OldCoder, you up?
08:21	OldCoder	Hi
08:21	OldCoder	Yes
08:21	OldCoder	Oblivion1500
08:22	Oblivion1500	hey, um i lost all my privs on marks server
08:22	OldCoder	Hmm?
08:22	Jordach	VanessaE, pm
08:22	OldCoder	Well, let's fix that
08:22	Oblivion1500	i only have shout
08:22	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, what is your nick there?
08:22	Oblivion1500	same as here
08:22	Oblivion1500	Oblivion1500
08:22	OldCoder	Upper-case O?
08:22	OldCoder	Coming
08:22	Oblivion1500	yea
08:22	OldCoder	But did somebody delete the privs?
08:23	Oblivion1500	thanks.. must have.. i mean how could i just lose them
08:23	OldCoder	I don't know
08:23	Oblivion1500	i think it was mark..
08:23	OldCoder	Ask Mark if you see him. Hold on while I connect.
08:23	OldCoder	There you go
08:23	OldCoder	I got to finish something
08:23	OldCoder	ttyl
08:23	Oblivion1500	thanks!
08:23	OldCoder	Sure
08:23	Oblivion1500	bye
08:23	OldCoder	Yep
08:24	Jordach	morning OldCoder
08:24	Jordach	(or very early morning!!)
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08:25	OldCoder	Yep
08:27	Jordach	i have no rhyme to wait for ctcp time
08:28	OldCoder	rhyme to wait is fate or you will be late which you hate Jordach
08:29	Jordach	:)
08:29	* Jordach	waits for GIMP 2.8.2 to install
08:31	Calinou	finally stopped hating it? :D
08:32	Jordach	just bored of GIMP locking up when using single layer only mode on crop
08:32	Jordach	(yes, thats a bug!)
08:42	Jordach	Calinou, i made new bricks: http://i.imgur.com/eX4SicO.png
08:44	Jordach	oh and, gimp 2.8.x for me: http://i.imgur.com/FYjTyrs.png
08:45	Calinou	the bricks look good
08:46	Jordach	Calinou, i learned from the best in business (vattic)
08:47	Calinou	more like the best of adfly
08:47	Jordach	Calinou, theres a better guy who has his own flavour of that without adfly
08:47	Jordach	:P
08:47	Jordach	(all whats changed is the foilage)
08:50	Jordach	Calinou, if you were a street artist, would you sell your art if it was good?
08:51	Calinou	yes, since people would buy it.
08:51	Calinou	trollface.jpg
08:52	Jordach	i see what you did there
08:56	* Jordach	is starting to get pissed off of with the export feature
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09:00	Calinou	ctrl+shift+E
09:01	Jordach	Calinou, i know
09:05	Jordach	i might end up being a paint.net convert
09:05	Jordach	(my gpu garbles the image at certain zoom levels)
09:05	Jordach	(it also stops responding)
09:05	Calinou	paint.net is .net...
09:05	Calinou	;-;
09:06	kaeza	Jordach, http://aseprite.org
09:06	Jordach	Calinou, dilligaf?
09:06	Jordach	(do i look like i give a fuck?)
09:06	Calinou	no :)
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09:07	* Jordach	is ashamed paint.net does not own http://paint.net
09:07	Calinou	getpaint.net :P
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09:07	markveidemanis	hi
09:08	Calinou	hi
09:11	Jordach	BEEP BEEP BEEP, Taoki is a brony! :P
09:11	Taoki	yep
09:15	Jordach	holy shit.
09:16	Jordach	(photoshop now weighs less than gimp!)
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09:20	Calinou	and costs more
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09:25	Jordach	..soo?
09:31	* Jordach	is heading home to gimp 2.6.12
09:42	Jordach	aw damn; should i add mc faithful style noise, or create a new pack entirely? http://i.imgur.com/TgLIKVX.png
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09:44	Jordach	(yup, evolved into a new pack)
09:55	celeron55	wtf is this ragnar offtopic shit
09:55	celeron55	has somebody warned him already?
09:55	celeron55	can i ban him?
09:55	markveidemanis	Yes
09:56	Jordach	go ahead
09:57	Jordach	no one in this channel caresx
09:57	Jordach	-x
09:57	markveidemanis	no, +x!!
09:57	markveidemanis	and +b
09:57	markveidemanis	:D
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10:10	* Jordach	will probably spend all day converting DokuTest since NF can't be assed
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10:17	markveidemanis	who is backupcoder
10:26	markveidemanis	who can make me a mod...
10:26	markveidemanis	to remove nodes
10:26	markveidemanis	conifers: all nodes
10:26	markveidemanis	conifers:trunk conifers:leaves conifers:leaves_special
10:29	kaeza	markveidemanis, grab the clean mod, look up item names in conifers/init.lua, add them to clean mod list, ???, profit
10:29	markveidemanis	i need abm
10:30	kaeza	...
10:30	markveidemanis	http://ompldr.org/vaDV0eQ/2013-01-20-180247_1024x600_scrot.png <== GLITCH
10:30	kaeza	clean mod uses an ABM to remove old nodes
10:31	markveidemanis	ok then
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11:39	markveidemanis	Who wants to talk
11:40	markveidemanis	About irc
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11:55	LandMine	Kiss my ass marktraceur
11:57	markveidemanis	ATCHOOO
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12:01	EyesIsMine	q
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12:16	markveidemanis	hi
12:16	markveidemanis	Oblivion1500...
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12:24	markveidemanis	Hi
12:28	markveidemanis	Type /me if you are reading this
12:29	klunk	:-) hey markveidemanis, you don't have something to do ? A project, a plane, ....
12:29	markveidemanis	nop
12:30	klunk	oh that's a bad lake of inspiration :-/
12:30	klunk	is the sun shines ?
12:36	markveidemanis	Moo
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12:36	markveidemanis	HI!
12:36	markveidemanis	Forum emails are THAT fast?
13:05	markveidemanis	i need to fix some light - worldedit
13:05	jojoa1997	use //fixlight
13:08	jojoa1997	how do i use the saddle with mobf
13:09	markveidemanis	idk
13:11	jojoa1997	dude some wolves spawn right in front of me
13:11	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30010
13:11	markveidemanis	?
13:12	markveidemanis	maybe thexyz kicked the bot
13:12	markveidemanis	again
13:13	kaeza	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65251#p65251 <== WAT
13:16	markveidemanis	Worldedit -START
13:16	markveidemanis	time it
13:16	markveidemanis	388220 nodes set: 5 sec
13:25	markveidemanis	h
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13:27	markveidemanis	hi
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14:23	jojoa1997	can anyone bring back the bot that tells when a server is down
14:23	RealBadAngel	hi all
14:23	jojoa1997	hi
14:23	jojoa1997	/\
14:25	kaeza	hi RBA
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14:28	sfan5	jojoa1997: done
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14:30	markveidemanis	hi
14:30	markveidemanis	jojoa1997:
14:30	jojoa1997_	hi
14:30	markveidemanis	/msg chanserv ghost jojoa1997 <password>
14:30	sfan5	jojoa1997_: done
14:30	sfan5	markveidemanis: not ChenServ
14:30	sfan5	*chan
14:30	markveidemanis	that will disconnect jojoa1997 and leave you to change your nick
14:30	markveidemanis	whoops
14:31	sfan5	nickserv
14:31	markveidemanis	nickserv
14:31	markveidemanis	Sorry
14:31	sfan5	jojoa1997_: the bot is back
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14:31	jojoa1997_	sfan5 can you add the bot that uses !up adress port
14:31	markveidemanis	thats why you should never give your password...
14:31	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30010-10013
14:31	jojoa1997_	k
14:31	markveidemanis	30013
14:32	jojoa1997_	!up diamongmining.no-ip.org 30000
14:32	MinetestBot	diamongmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
14:32	markveidemanis	make it allow me to correct it
14:32	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30010-30013
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30010 is up (0.517ms)
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30011 is up (0.309ms)
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30012 is up (0.314ms)
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30013 is up (0.323ms)
14:32	markveidemanis	why is my server slower!?
14:32	jojoa1997	!up minetest.org 30003-30005
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30003 is up (0.319ms)
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30004 is up (0.310ms)
14:32	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30005 is up (0.314ms)
14:32	sfan5	!up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000
14:32	MinetestBot	diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
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14:33	jojoa1997	man i thought shaun had it up 24/7
14:33	markveidemanis	sfan5...
14:34	markveidemanis	!up <your ip> 30000
14:34	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Invalid Address
14:34	markveidemanis	EXAMPLE
14:34	sfan5	markveidemanis: ?
14:35	jojoa1997	like this
14:35	RealBadAngel	sfan5, maybe bots should answer on priv?
14:35	jojoa1997	!up idont.have.one 30001
14:35	MinetestBot	idont.have.one:30001 seems to be down
14:35	markveidemanis	!up 86.172.249.98
14:35	MinetestBot	86.172.249.98:30000 seems to be down
14:36	markveidemanis	Hello MinetestBot
14:36	MinetestBot	Hi markveidemanis!
14:36	markveidemanis	!g hi
14:36	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HI
14:36	markveidemanis	!g MinetestBot
14:36	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: https://github.com/sfan5
14:36	markveidemanis	haha
14:36	sfan5	RealBadAngel: its not the bots fault if they're used for spamming
14:36	sfan5	!g MinetestBot mudules
14:36	MinetestBot	sfan5: https://github.com/sfan5
14:36	sfan5	!g MinetestBot modules
14:36	MinetestBot	sfan5: https://github.com/sfan5
14:36	RealBadAngel	i know
14:36	RealBadAngel	they are abusing them
14:37	RealBadAngel	but that could be a solution
14:37		markveidemanis was kicked by sfan5: stop spamming
14:37	sfan5	yeah
14:37	klunk	there isn't a whisper feature (if yes make it enable by default) ?
14:37	kaeza	sfan5, how about adding markv and other known spammers to an ignore list?
14:38	sfan5	good idea
14:38	RealBadAngel	priv is the simplest solution, answer to whom asked
14:38	kaeza	or maybe not ignore, but send PM instead
14:38	sfan5	there is already an ignore list for !g and !gc
14:38	KikaRz	!g test
14:38	MinetestBot	KikaRz: Nope!
14:38	jojoa1997	sfan5 your kikaRz?
14:39	sfan5	*facepalm*
14:39	kaeza	makes sense
14:39	kaeza	lol
14:39	* kaeza	hides
14:39	sfan5	i demonstrated the ignore list feature
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14:39	jojoa1997	sfan5 are you kikarz on vanessae's server?
14:39		MasterBot was kicked by sfan5: celeron55 said only 1 bot
14:39	sfan5	jojoa1997: no
14:40	markveidemanis	Hes not a bot!!
14:40		MasterBot joined #minetest
14:40	MasterBot	im not a bot
14:40	RealBadAngel	hes a second  you?
14:40	MasterBot	Yes he is
14:40	markveidemanis	yes
14:40	RealBadAngel	so quit one, please
14:40	markveidemanis	can i not have that name?
14:40		MasterBot was kicked by sfan5: remove the "Bot" from the nick
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14:41	RealBadAngel	this is not a playground
14:41	RealBadAngel	behave
14:41	sfan5	^
14:41	markveidemanis	ok
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14:42	RealBadAngel	either you gonna behave, or you got banned once and for all
14:42	RealBadAngel	up to you
14:42	markveidemanis	That happened 3 thimes...
14:42	markveidemanis	times
14:42	RealBadAngel	some1 is way too much patient
14:43	sfan5	!b64d XiBpIGFncmVl
14:43	MinetestBot	^ i agree
14:43	markveidemanis	aGVsbG8=
14:44	sfan5	!64d aGVsbG8=
14:44	sfan5	!b64d aGVsbG8=
14:44	MinetestBot	hello
14:44	markveidemanis	c28gZG9udCB0cnkgdG8gYmUgY2xldmVyIHdpdGggQmFzZTY0
14:44	markveidemanis	Ok?
14:44	sfan5	776861742061626F7574206261736531363F
14:45	markveidemanis	Hex, right?
14:45	sfan5	no, base16
14:45	markveidemanis	!hex gave me: 373736383631373432303631363236463735373432303632363137333635333133363346
14:45	MinetestBot	67617665206d653a20333733373336333833363331333733343332333033363331333633323336343633373335333733343332333033363332333633313337333333363335333333313333333633333436
14:45	markveidemanis	i need a space
14:45	markveidemanis	thats a long number
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14:45	jojoa1997	hi
14:45	sfan5	hi
14:46	markveidemanis	InvBot is better
14:46	markveidemanis	or not...
14:46	jojoa1997	!up 0gb.us
14:46	MinetestBot	0gb.us:30000 is up (0.599ms)
14:46	sfan5	[LOG]: markveidemanis queried Google Result for 'spam'
14:47	jojoa1997	good
14:47	sfan5	are you fucking kidding me?
14:47	markveidemanis	NOp
14:47	MinetestBot	GIT: Jeija commited to celeron55/minetest: Add a list of servers to the "Multiplayer" tab 6f93c01af9 2013-01-21T06:42:56-08:00 http://git.io/QRBMHg
14:47	sfan5	\o/
14:47	markveidemanis	O.o
14:47	Exio	nice :D
14:47	jojoa1997	was it added
14:47	markveidemanis	UPDATE UPDATE NOW
14:48	jojoa1997	thexyz can you please make a windows build now
14:48	jojoa1997	actually...
14:49	* sfan5	is doing a windows build right now
14:49	jojoa1997	sfan5 could you send me a download link of the current github but not with anything added
14:49	jojoa1997	i jusrt wan the github
14:49	sfan5	wut?
14:49	markveidemanis	i think i have some bot lying around...
14:50	markveidemanis	Nope, was wrong no bot there
14:50	jojoa1997	sfan5 i mean with nothing added
14:50	markveidemanis	?
14:50	jojoa1997	or is your build just the github version. nothing changed by you
14:50	markveidemanis	!help
14:51	sfan5	jojoa1997: nothing changed
14:51	jojoa1997	oh ok
14:51	jojoa1997	i thought that you added some of your own stuff
14:52	kaeza	...
14:52	jojoa1997	safan5 what is curl
14:53	sfan5	!g curl
14:53	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://curl.haxx.se/
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14:53	sfan5	^ jojoa1997
14:53	sfan5	hi Jeija
14:53	jojoa1997	hi
14:56	markveidemanis	umm...
14:56	markveidemanis	hi JEIJA
14:56	Jeija	hi
14:56	markveidemanis	i see your multiplayer thing tab
14:57	markveidemanis	I am not recompiling, how do i make it work
14:58	jojoa1997	sfan5 how long does it take to compile
14:58	sfan5	the build should be there soon
15:02	kaeza	some random guy on another server: http://pastebin.com/JvQy9qyg
15:02	kaeza	(edited for length)
15:08	klaxa	markveidemanis: why would you query me?
15:09	* jojoa1997	clicks refresh button on forum evry 10 seconds waiting.....
15:10	kaeza	also: clicks the post button just because :P
15:13	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30010
15:13	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30010 is up (0.522ms)
15:13	markveidemanis	522!
15:18	markveidemanis	http://www.sendspace.com/file/lyuzk8
15:18	kaeza	...
15:18	markveidemanis	nop, not that...let me try omp
15:19	markveidemanis	http://ompldr.org/vaDV4Nw/2013-01-21-151737_1024x600_scrot.png
15:19	markveidemanis	bottom right
15:19	Jordach	HOLY SHIT BALLS
15:19	markveidemanis	...
15:19	* Jordach	just read the scrollback and saw Jeija's commit
15:19	Jordach	thexyz, build win32 now
15:19	Jordach	:D
15:19	markveidemanis	http://ompldr.org/vaDV0eQ/2013-01-20-180247_1024x600_scrot.png
15:20	markveidemanis	^Glitch
15:20	kaeza	Jordach, switch to Linux :D
15:20	Jordach	feck no
15:20	kaeza	lol
15:20	Jordach	my GPU at some point will lose support
15:21	kaeza	good point...sadly
15:22	* Jordach	just noticed the minetest download page needs some love: http://i.imgur.com/hdjZ4Gl.png
15:23	kaeza	wat
15:24	kaeza	Jordach, looks good on mine
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15:25	Jordach	afternoon PilzAdam
15:25	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
15:25	Jordach	also: http://git.io/QRBMHg
15:26	sfan5	Jordach: i'm currectly making a win build
15:26	Jordach	sfan5, MSVC, OpenGL is dying
15:26	Jordach	(its killing my system..)
15:27	sfan5	i use i586-mingw32msvc-gcc
15:27	Jordach	sfan5, actual compiling with the actual program
15:27	Jordach	(or ide)
15:27	sfan5	oh..
15:28	Jordach	it needs .dll support
15:28	Jordach	dx*
15:29	Jordach	sfan5, :P
15:29	* sfan5	is googling right now
15:30	* Jordach	has noticed that youre more talkative today
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15:31	* Jordach	should get back to converting DokuCraft
15:32	ruskie	any tutorial on howto convert minecraft tp's to minetest ones?
15:33	marktraceur	Wow, WTF, LM just came in and cursed me out?
15:33	PilzAdam	ruskie, there are some scripts for that
15:33	PilzAdam	look in the forum
15:34	ruskie	yeah found some of the scripts
15:34	Jordach	marktraceur, yes
15:35	markveidemanis	Haha
15:36	markveidemanis	#minetest *!*@189.144.135.37 marktraceur!~marktracefsf/member/marktraceur 1358782522
15:38	markveidemanis	Wha--
15:39	markveidemanis	Moo!
15:39	markveidemanis	Yep
15:39	markveidemanis	Well, now you know
15:42	markveidemanis	[ 68%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/base64.cpp.o  <==why?
15:42	markveidemanis	same with sha1
15:42	sfan5	the win32-visualstudio example of irrlicht works with directx, but the win32-gcc doesn't
15:42	sfan5	i guess i just  have to use a different Irrlicht.dll to get directx working
15:43	sfan5	New minetest build! with server list: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-d1-6f93c01-win32.7z
15:44	jojoa1997	sfan can you give me a zip fiile
15:45	markveidemanis	just compile your self.
15:45	jojoa1997	i cant
15:45	markveidemanis	i am..
15:45	dzho	markveidemanis: please do not PM me until further notice
15:45	markveidemanis	why?
15:45	markveidemanis	ok...
15:45	jojoa1997	nvm worked
15:49	markveidemanis	i just finished compiling
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15:51	jojoa1997	sfan what is new with this build besides multiplayer tab
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15:53	jojoa1997	sfan5 i thought there was supposed to be a drop down of past servers
15:54	sfan5	jojoa1997: nothing else
15:55	Jordach	sfan5, is cURL enabled?
15:55	Jordach	(now there IS A USE for it :P )
15:55	sfan5	no, i have problems compiling with curl
15:55	Jordach	okay.
15:55	* Jordach	was wondering
15:55	sfan5	but i'll try to do the same build with curl and directs
15:55	sfan5	*directx support
15:56	jojoa1997	does it save the servers that you typed in
15:56	sfan5	if it didn't that'd be dumb
15:56	Jordach	jojoa1997, heres an idea: go try it
15:56	jojoa1997	i am
15:56	jojoa1997	0gb.us didnt save so i am trying vanessae's
15:58	jojoa1997	nope it didnt save for either
15:59	jojoa1997	:/
16:00	VanessaE	hi
16:00	MinetestBot	GIT: doserj (Jürgen Doser) commited to celeron55/minetest: Basic support for configuring which mods to load for each world 6af8a34d91 2013-01-21T07:31:50-08:00 http://git.io/zgCjOA
16:01	markveidemanis	**worldmods
16:01	jojoa1997	sfan what am i doing wrong
16:01	markveidemanis	!g curl
16:01	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: http://curl.haxx.se/
16:02	kaeza	hey VanessaE
16:03	Jordach	hello VanessaE
16:03	markveidemanis	***
16:04	markveidemanis	haha
16:05	markveidemanis	its been like this all day; SILENCE
16:06	VanessaE	everyone's either in bed or at work at this time of day
16:06	Jordach	heh
16:07	jojoa1997	im off for break
16:07	jojoa1997	yay
16:07	Jordach	VanessaE, if it were a normal school day, i'd have just got through the door
16:07	jojoa1997	it would be lunch time by now for me
16:07	jojoa1997	speking of witch
16:07	jojoa1997	brb
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16:13	Jordach	VanessaE, heres the outside world! http://i.imgur.com/eZlFIbr.jpg
16:13	Jordach	(right where i live)
16:13	VanessaE	yuck...all that cold, ugly white shit ;-)
16:13	Jordach	theres about 9 inches
16:14	VanessaE	w got about half an inch or so with the last snowfall, and then nothing since (but it's been cold enough for it to hang around)
16:14	VanessaE	we*
16:20	* sfan5	has got 5-7 cm snow
16:20	Jordach	VanessaE, we've had this for a week now
16:21	Jordach	and ive not gone to school for a week :P
16:21	jojoa1997	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65286#p65286
16:22	sfan5	i thught this morning: "ahh, just some snow. i'm going to use my bike to get to school" it was a huge mistake
16:23	Jordach	sfan5, excersize, EXCERSIZE!?! (im just kidding)
16:23	Jordach	my brother fell of off his bike on ice, he slid and crashed into a PARKED car (he still says to this day it was moving)
16:24	thexyz	Jordach: ima not here
16:25	Jordach	:C
16:25	* Jordach	starts making snowballs
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16:30	Jordach	oops!
16:30	markveidemanis	???
16:31	markveidemanis	how to change nickserv pass?
16:32	sfan5	maybe use /msg NickServ help
16:32	Jordach	sfan5, i missed google chrome :P
16:34	markveidemanis	Syntax: SETPASS <account> <key> <newpass>
16:34	markveidemanis	key???
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16:37	Kacey	hello
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16:39	markveidemanis	hi
16:40	VanessaE	for those who haven't seen, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394
16:40	VanessaE	(shameless spam ;) )
16:40	jojoa1997	who spammed
16:41	VanessaE	me :)
16:41	jojoa1997	O.o
16:42	markveidemanis	0.o
16:43	markveidemanis	who wants to come on #mtmt to actually talk about something?!
16:43	VanessaE	no one
16:43	sfan5	chrome almost killed my computer
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16:45	Jordach	sfan5, \o/
16:50	rubenwardy	hi all
16:50	markveidemanis	hi
16:51	rubenwardy	why are the biggest and hardest bugs so small?
16:53	markveidemanis	idk...
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16:55	markveidemanis	Hi
16:55	Carly|lunch	hi
16:55	Carly|lunch	:D
16:55	markveidemanis	how do i count people on channel?
16:55	Carly|lunch	o.O
16:55	markveidemanis	Want a friendly competition?
16:56	Carly|lunch	markveidemanis: here's 84 person
16:56	Carly|lunch	at the moment
16:56	markveidemanis	Wow
16:56	markveidemanis	Hmm...
16:59	TB|Vibe-X	hi all
16:59	sfan5	hi
17:01	sfan5	seems like i can't cross compile iirlicht with directx support
17:02	sfan5	but i got curl working!!!!
17:02	markveidemanis	oh yay!
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17:09	Jordach	right, thats dokutest upto speed
17:11	Calinou	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65289#p65289
17:11	Calinou	poor Ragnar, he is trying to be the new linus torvalds
17:15	VanessaE	Calinou: that does it.
17:15	VanessaE	ban his ass.
17:15	markveidemanis	YAY
17:16	markveidemanis	do it with chanserv
17:16	markveidemanis	/msg chanserv flags #minetest Ragnar +b
17:16	VanessaE	markveidemanis: you can't use chanserv to ban someone from the forum.
17:16	markveidemanis	oh, forum.
17:16	jojoa1997	sfan you build has crul now?
17:16	markveidemanis	why not here as well?
17:17	rubenwardy	+1 for ban
17:17	VanessaE	if he continues his trolling here, then yes,.
17:17	markveidemanis	+b for ban!!!
17:17	VanessaE	he carried it to the forums because he got muted here.
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17:19	* markveidemanis	is refreshing ragnar's user info...
17:19	markveidemanis	hurry with ban...
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17:19	Jordach	VanessaE, <celeron55> wtf is this ragnar offtopic shit
17:19	Jordach	<celeron55> has somebody warned him already?
17:19	Jordach	<celeron55> can i ban him?
17:20	VanessaE	YES.
17:20	VanessaE	I couldn't decide whether or not to ban him.
17:20	Calinou	for a week?
17:20	Calinou	same
17:20	markveidemanis	+b for ban +1 for +b
17:20	Calinou	please don't permaban though.
17:21	hmmmm	what?  i just say permaban him and that's it
17:21	hmmmm	he can live without being a part of minetest.
17:21	hmmmm	the point of a ban is to just get him out of your lives
17:21	Calinou	no
17:21	Calinou	point of a ban is to make the banned user leave for a bit so that he calms down
17:22	Calinou	that's how I see bans
17:22	Calinou	people saying "they're for excluding x of something" are minecraft server admins
17:22	Jordach	Calinou, lemme get you banned from a bar
17:23	hmmmm	yeah, that's more like a kick calinou
17:23	Jordach	put it like this: you have to find another place to drink
17:29	sfan5	why is ragnar not banned from the forum yet?
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17:30	jojoa1997	!up diamondmining.no-ip.org
17:30	MinetestBot	diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
17:31	VanessaE	sfan5: dunno - I ain't the only one who can ban him after all :-)
17:32		markveidemanis joined #minetest
17:32	jojoa1997	how can i get +MinetestBot to go on a seperate channel
17:32	markveidemanis	you cant
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17:32	jojoa1997	why not
17:32	markveidemanis	ask sfan5
17:32	Calinou	hmmmm: no, a kick lets you join back immediatly
17:33	hmmmm	kick, tempban, permaban
17:33	jojoa1997	sfan5 why cant i get +MinetestBot to go on a seperate channel
17:33	sfan5	only me, thexyz and celeron55 have the control over MinetestBot
17:33	markveidemanis	you can ask ZegBot.
17:33	markveidemanis	and InvBot
17:34	jojoa1997	could you put it on a seperate channel temporarily. wanna check a bunch of servers
17:34	markveidemanis	PM hi,
17:34	markveidemanis	him
17:34	sfan5	you can query with the bot
17:34	jojoa1997	thanks
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17:35	Dogzilla131	Hi all :D
17:36	rubenwardy	hi
17:36	MinetestBot	hi Dogzilla131
17:36	rubenwardy	hi all
17:36	Dogzilla131	Hi
17:36	rubenwardy	hi MinetestBot
17:36	MinetestBot	Hey rubenwardy!
17:37	rubenwardy	lol
17:37	jojoa1997	!up vanessae.mine.bz
17:37	MinetestBot	vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (0.467ms)
17:38	rubenwardy	mw ha ha ha
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17:39	sfan5	rubenwardy: ?
17:39	markveidemanis	20030053CC08A4010D5D766E4FA9AD8E BASE64 ÛM7ÓNw
17:40	rubenwardy	http://www.tinsanity.net/404.shtml
17:41	PilzAdam	are 2 articles per day enough? http://dev.minetest.net/Special:RecentChanges
17:41	sfan5	yes
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17:45	rubenwardy	sfan5, OldCoder, PilzAdam: if the main .cpp file gets quite large, is it worth splitting it up into .h, or using seperate .cpp's ?
17:46	VanessaE	can someone explain how technic deployer works so I can document it?
17:47	jojoa1997	i can
17:47	jojoa1997	go on your server
17:47	VanessaE	I'm doing this in singleplayer mode
17:47	jojoa1997	one sec
17:47	PilzAdam	rubenwardy, what do you mean by "gets quite large"?
17:48	markveidemanis	Lol
17:48	markveidemanis	good thing to put inn quotes:D
17:48	jojoa1997	nvm vanessae what happened to spawn
17:48	VanessaE	??
17:48	rubenwardy	> 1300 lines
17:48	rubenwardy	lots of functions
17:49	jojoa1997	i type spawn and i dont teleport therer but in a house
17:49	VanessaE	hold a sec.
17:49	VanessaE	I restarted the server.
17:49	VanessaE	/spawn seems to work fine for me
17:50	PilzAdam	rubenwardy, well, if you look at game.cpp I guess you can guess the answer
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17:50	PilzAdam	but ask others too
17:50	markveidemanis	hi
17:51	rubenwardy	the answer for c55 is no
17:51	markveidemanis	ChanServ changed the topic of #roses to: So the RTOSDC has decided that ROSES is no longer going to be funded. So... all developers are hereby now becoming alcoholics.
17:51	VanessaE	?
17:52	jojoa1997	i dont drink
17:52	markveidemanis	so?
17:52	jojoa1997	!up c55.me
17:52	MinetestBot	c55.me:30000 seems to be down
17:53	VanessaE	jojoa1997: so how does this work?
17:53	jojoa1997	forget it im going singleplayer
17:53	jojoa1997	the deployer
17:53	VanessaE	yeah
17:54	markveidemanis	#mtmt is looking better than earlier:i got some people on *hehe*
17:54	jojoa1997	going on test world to see if i am right on what i know
17:55	jojoa1997	VanessaE: i love your moretrees
17:55	VanessaE	thanks
17:55	markveidemanis	i think trees should not spawn
17:55	VanessaE	they don't
17:56	markveidemanis	and the worldgen needs a lot of improvement
17:56	VanessaE	they are strictly magen-based
17:56	markveidemanis	ok, mapgen
17:56	markveidemanis	we need cliffs
17:56	VanessaE	they work exactly like default trees
17:56	markveidemanis	and some flatland
17:56	VanessaE	just larger and nicer looking
17:56	jojoa1997	do planks change into sticks
17:56	markveidemanis	but the mapgen...
17:57	jojoa1997	EPIC FAIL i removed technic from my mods
17:58	markveidemanis	haha
17:58	VanessaE	jojoa1997: grab the latest pipeworks.
17:58	markveidemanis	LOL
17:58	markveidemanis	LOLOL
17:58	jojoa1997	i have it
17:58	VanessaE	it has a few items imported from technic
17:58	jojoa1997	so i need technic now?
17:58	VanessaE	no.
17:58	VanessaE	just make sure your pipeworks is no older than yesterday.
17:59	jojoa1997	i updated today
17:59	VanessaE	ok
17:59	VanessaE	they you have what you need.
17:59	jojoa1997	ok so you actually have a question about pipeworks
17:59	VanessaE	essentially
17:59	VanessaE	Nore added these and I don't know how they work :-)
17:59	jojoa1997	ok going back on test world
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18:00	PilzAdam	oh, hey meldrian
18:00	jojoa1997	do i need mesecon
18:01	meldrian	ahoi PilzAdam
18:01	VanessaE	I don't know if the deployer uses mesecons
18:01	VanessaE	but you probably should install it just in case.
18:01	jojoa1997	i have mesecon but i meant useing it
18:01	VanessaE	oh
18:01	VanessaE	see I don't know at all
18:01	jojoa1997	furnace work with pipes now?
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18:01	VanessaE	I don't know what this device is supposed to be for.
18:01	Kacey	hello
18:01	jojoa1997	and locked chest?
18:02	VanessaE	and yes, tubes will send to/from furnaces and chests.
18:02	jojoa1997	any special order that items go in for furnace
18:02	jojoa1997	sides oi maen
18:03	Kacey	VanessaE: any new mods on your server?
18:03	PilzAdam	Jordach, you can use the {{Irc|minetest}} template in your userpage
18:03	Jordach	ugh.
18:03	Jordach	five mins
18:04	VanessaE	Kacey: the 12-tree version of moretrees and the latest pipeworks.
18:04	Kacey	alright
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18:05	VanessaE	I sure wish there were some way to force the mapgen to re-generate a map without losing everyone's structures.
18:06	VanessaE	is there at least a way to *delete* data from the map? (i.e. sectors that have been visited but not built on)
18:06	Jordach	PilzAdam, will this do? http://dev.minetest.net/C%2B%2B
18:07	Kacey	http://0gb.us/minetest/download.php?plu … 0gb_us-0.0 put that on your server please
18:07	PilzAdam	Jordach, the minetest engine is progammed in c++
18:07	PilzAdam	not the whole project
18:08	VanessaE	Kacey: I didn't get the whole link
18:08	Kacey	http://0gb.us/minetest/download.php?plugin=chests_0gb_us-0.0 there
18:08	VanessaE	Kacey: got a link to a page that describes it?
18:09	jojoa1997	vanessae can coal go in the fuel part of the furnace automatically
18:09	Kacey	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4366
18:09	VanessaE	jojoa1997: yeah, put a tube into the bottom of the furnace and feed coal into that
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18:10	VanessaE	I think the sides are used to receive/send items to be smelted and smelting results
18:10	Kacey	pipeworks?
18:10	VanessaE	Kacey: yes?
18:10	Kacey	how do i feed things into the pipe?
18:11	VanessaE	Kacey: send it from somewhere else such as a chest+filter, nodebreaker, etc.
18:11	jojoa1997	vanessae what is the inventory spots on the filter for
18:11	Kacey	that is what i need to know how to do...
18:12	VanessaE	jojoa1997: the filter also serves as a small chest.
18:12	VanessaE	Kacey: read the forum post, everything is explained there
18:12	VanessaE	(except I haven't documented how furnaces are connected)
18:12	Kacey	link?
18:12	VanessaE	Nore's been adding so much useful stuff I haven't had time to document it all
18:12	VanessaE	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
18:13	Kacey	extreme lag on your server
18:14	VanessaE	oh there's a surprise :-/
18:14	jojoa1997	furnaces work
18:15	VanessaE	brb
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18:17	jojoa1997	yay auto craft works
18:19	Jordach	PilzAdam, updated
18:20	PilzAdam	whats the point of this article?
18:20	Jordach	its a empty page originally, so i thought id give it some use
18:22	jojoa1997	VanessaE: you there?
18:23	jojoa1997	pm me when you get back
18:23	jojoa1997	!up 0gb.us
18:23	MinetestBot	0gb.us:30000 seems to be down
18:24	jojoa1997	!up diamondmining.no-ip.org
18:24	MinetestBot	diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
18:24	* jojoa1997	sighs
18:24	Kacey	VanessaE: my textures are all messe up on pipworks
18:24	PilzAdam	Jordach, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Lua&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1
18:25	VanessaE	sorry
18:25	VanessaE	had to step away
18:26	VanessaE	Kacey: are you using the default textures?
18:26	VanessaE	(no texture pack)
18:26	Kacey	yep
18:26	jojoa1997	go to server i have to show you
18:26	VanessaE	ok, you probably need to turn off your texture atlas then
18:26	VanessaE	jojoa1997: ok
18:26	Kacey	would /set enable_texture_atlas true or false work?
18:27	Kacey	it would be false
18:27	rubenwardy1	you would have to restart
18:27	Kacey	i am
18:28	Kacey	stupid windows 8...
18:29	VanessaE	jojoa1997: sign out/in.  try again
18:29	* rubenwardy1	laughs at windows 8
18:29	VanessaE	I might have forgotten to update the server's mod list
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18:35	Jordach	VanessaE, we need pipeworks to have 16x textures
18:36	VanessaE	no.
18:36	VanessaE	16px textures on pipes looks like ass.
18:36	VanessaE	and I already had to downgrade some of them to 16px as it is
18:37	Calinou	Kacey: lol, you upgraded to win8?
18:37	Kacey	no my grandparents did...
18:38	Kacey	broke the furnace...
18:38	Calinou	Kacey: you paid for a downgrade?
18:38	Calinou	;-;
18:38	Kacey	i didnt pay anything
18:39	jojoa1997	RBA you there?
18:39	jojoa1997	!up 0gb.us
18:39	MinetestBot	0gb.us:30000 seems to be down
18:39	jojoa1997	no bad bot
18:39	jojoa1997	say it is up
18:40	jojoa1997	<MinetestBot> 0gb.us:30000 is up
18:40	jojoa1997	:)
18:40	Kacey	VanessaE: having issues with the furnace
18:40	VanessaE	on my server?
18:41	Kacey	no
18:41	Kacey	singleplayer
18:41	VanessaE	what issues?
18:41	Kacey	i need 3 chests in order to make the furnace work
18:42	VanessaE	of course,.
18:42	VanessaE	fuel, input item, output item
18:42	Kacey	what goes on the back?
18:42	VanessaE	I don't remember, actually
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18:43	VanessaE	you'll have to experiment with it
18:43	Kacey	uugh
18:43	PilzAdam	lol, that was the wrong "X"
18:43	sfan5	:D
18:45	Calinou	<Kacey> i didnt pay anything
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18:45	Calinou	you pay windows even when it is preinstalled
18:45	Kacey	I DIDNT BUY THE COMPUTER
18:45	Kacey	sorry accidental caps lock
18:46	Kacey	my granparents bought the computer for themselves
18:47	thexyz	Jordach: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4240
18:47	Calinou	Kacey: nice use of money
18:47	* Jordach	gives thexyz a good thumbs up
18:47	* Kacey	cant wait to put linux on it when they get tired of it
18:48	Jordach	Kacey, UEFI good luck
18:48	thexyz	what's the problem with uefi?
18:48	Kacey	UEFI?
18:48	Calinou	Jordach: single boot with BIOS
18:48	Calinou	that's what I do :3
18:48	thexyz	use grub2, dammit
18:48	Calinou	legacy bios is still available on today's mobos
18:48	thexyz	or boot even without bootloader
18:48	Kacey	YUMI ftw
18:48	Calinou	thexyz: didn't do it intentionally
18:48	Calinou	not worth a reinstall
18:48	thexyz	reinstall>?
18:48	Calinou	to change partition table
18:48	thexyz	win^Wubuntu user spooted
18:48	Calinou	it is msdos with 4 primary partitions
18:48	Calinou	no u
18:48	thexyz	lol
18:49	thexyz	2013, dos partition table
18:49	Calinou	the installer makes msdos partition table, not gpt
18:49	Calinou	wtf canonical
18:49	Calinou	even HDDs from the 90s support gpt
18:49	Jordach	VanessaE, can we have a automatic filters?
18:49	thexyz	i doubt that hdds have to support it
18:49	VanessaE	you mean the filter/injector device?
18:49	VanessaE	in pipeworks?
18:49	thexyz	isn't it something software?
18:49	Jordach	yes
18:50	VanessaE	connect it to a mesecons circuit
18:50	Kacey	i hate punching filters
18:50	VanessaE	one pulse on a connected mesecons wire sends one item
18:50	sfan5	this fucking adblocks likes to almost kill my computer
18:50	VanessaE	or put say a blinky plant next to it
18:50	Kacey	what about a continuous pulse
18:51	Calinou	thexyz: it is :P
18:51	VanessaE	just keep pulsing it more rapidly then
18:51	VanessaE	2-3 pulses/second will just about fill the tube anyway
18:51	thexyz	Calinou: install gentoo, be free ^^
18:52	VanessaE	sfan5: your oil mod needs a revival... :-)
18:52	sfan5	yes, but not right now, my primary computer is broken
18:52	VanessaE	ok
18:52	Jordach	chrome killed it?
18:52	sfan5	i've to use this ancient computer now until mine is repaired
18:52	sfan5	Jordach: no
18:53	sfan5	hdd/mainboard failure
18:53	Jordach	<sfan5> chrome almost killed my computer
18:53	sfan5	the on i'm using right now
18:53	sfan5	*one
18:54	sfan5	its actually this:
18:54	sfan5	<sfan5> this fucking adblocks likes to almost kill my computer
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18:55	Kacey	making brick blocks
18:56	Jordach	sfan5, haha i have adblock and it aint killing nothing
18:56	Jordach	just the ads.
18:56	Kacey	haha almost done with the process
18:57	Jordach	i found a way to repeat the filter usage without having to use a delayer clock
18:57	Kacey	how?
18:57	Calinou	thexyz: no u
18:57	Calinou	install gentoo, sleep for free?
18:58	Jordach	Kacey, http://i.imgur.com/5HpYuV5.png
18:58	Jordach	(i should wire the other two up)
18:59	Kacey	clever...
18:59	thexyz	Calinou: i already did
18:59	Kacey	i used a blinky plant :)
18:59	Jordach	the conductive pipe
18:59	thexyz	xyzxyz-pc ~ $ uname -a
18:59	thexyz	Linux xyz-pc 3.7.1-gentoo #1 SMP Fri Dec 21 21:31:12 MSK 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
18:59	thexyz	Calinou: now u
18:59	thexyz	oh fuck, my kernel is so old
19:01	* Jordach	slaps thexyz with a nostalgia sword
19:01	* sfan5	presents: Linux PC 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.35-2 i686 GNU/Linux
19:01	Jordach	(not the sharp side of the blade, probably the handle)
19:02	Kacey	auto sorter...
19:02	* tkln	joins the uname party with: Linux Alpha 3.6.11-rt25-1-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Dec 25 00:18:17 CET 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
19:03	sfan5	look at this:   model name: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
19:04	Calinou	thexyz: lol, so old
19:05	Calinou	Linux calinou-desktop 3.5.0-22-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:47:00 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
19:05	Calinou	SO HARDCORE, MY MOBO DOESN'T RECOGNIZE MY CPU
19:05	Calinou	x86_64 is an awesome CPU, amirite?
19:05	sfan5	3.x kernel \o/
19:05	Calinou	sfan5: electricity company is looking at it
19:05	Calinou	tkln: realtime kernels are for people with pentiums and celerons
19:05	Calinou	:3
19:06	thexyz	tkln: realtime?
19:06	Calinou	oh hai, harshlinuxian
19:06	thexyz	is there any reason to use rt on desktop?
19:06	tkln	thexyz: well i do some musicd production stuff
19:07	* Calinou	has near zero sound latency
19:07	Calinou	john_minetest: enjoy teh bugs
19:07	Calinou	fun fact: xorg-edgers ppa is proposing 3.7 kernel to me ._.
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19:08	tkln	i had problems with latency and xruns up to a point where i was unable to work.
19:08	Calinou	...now run a game with vsync
19:09	Kacey	iVanessaE: can pumps use mesecons for power?
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19:09	Kacey	having issues with this keyboard...
19:09	thexyz	bai
19:10	thexyz	Minetest-tan: hi
19:11	sfan5	hi Minetest-tan
19:11	Minetest-tan	Hello sfan5
19:11	thexyz	oh
19:11	thexyz	well
19:11	thexyz	stupid bitch
19:11	sfan5	thexyz: you could just have told me to say "MinetestBot: quit" instead of kicking it :(
19:11	Calinou	sfan5: quit
19:11	Calinou	doesn't work :|
19:12	sfan5	do you think thats going to.....
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19:12	thexyz	lol
19:12	thexyz	works
19:12	thexyz	in reverse
19:14	Jordach	im so good with pipeworks (i play tekkit) i managed to break the machine: http://ompldr.org/vaDYxNA/screenshot_39463241.png
19:14	Jordach	(it pulses way too fast
19:15	Jordach	)
19:15	Kacey	what are you putting into the back of the furnace?
19:16	rubenwardy	eggs
19:16	Kacey	but would that be input slot also?
19:17	sfan5	!rev celeron55
19:18	sfan5	oh.. thats also in rutils
19:20	Jordach	Kacey, iron lump
19:23	OldCoder	Hi
19:23	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYxOQ/screenshot_72808841.png auto smelter
19:23	OldCoder	rubenwardy, I can't comment on the nature of the splitup without review but a splitup of some time is advisable
19:24	rubenwardy	the nature is that it is a big file and takes time to find stuff
19:24	rubenwardy	more than seperate files would
19:25	VanessaE	Kacey: see pipeworks main page, I just documented how furnaces work with the tubes.
19:25	Kacey	link?
19:25	Kacey	or is it on forums?
19:25	VanessaE	or do that :-)
19:25	VanessaE	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
19:25	VanessaE	is it on the forums, indeed.  pfft.
19:25	VanessaE	:)
19:25	Kacey	lol
19:27	VanessaE	Jordach: yet another perfect example of how badly entities behave these days
19:28	Jordach	VanessaE, that shows you how good i am with tekkit
19:28	VanessaE	heh
19:28	rubenwardy	What is that machine: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
19:28	VanessaE	rubenwardy: what, the top screenshot?
19:28	Jordach	VanessaE, see pm in a few
19:28	rubenwardy	yes
19:28	VanessaE	rubenwardy: it's nothing but a random jumble of pipes and tubes and stuff.
19:28	VanessaE	it does nothing.
19:29	Kacey	numbers are not needed for teleport tube haha
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19:29	rubenwardy	Mauvebic has a working version of pipeworks, with valves and storeage, etc
19:29	rubenwardy	"Storage tanks and the "sealed"/"airtight" pipe do not yet work.  Valves  always behave as if they're closed, since they don't work either yet."
19:30	VanessaE	rubenwardy: mauvebic contributed water flowing code, but he has been seriously dragging his heels in giving me a usable pull request for that stuff.
19:30	VanessaE	Kacey: does using words for a channel actually *work* though?
19:30	Kacey	yep
19:31	VanessaE	I mean, does channel "foo" send stuff to a different location than channel "bar" and so on
19:31	Kacey	yes
19:31	Kacey	i made 3 channels, input, output, and fuel
19:31	Kacey	it worked
19:31	VanessaE	ok
19:31	VanessaE	updated the documentation to show that.
19:31	VanessaE	thanks
19:32	Kacey	yw
19:32	rubenwardy	can you not just nick some of the code from his mod?
19:33	rubenwardy	to make valves work etc
19:33	VanessaE	rubenwardy: he rewrote most of what was pipeworks at the time .
19:33	VanessaE	as in totally changed all of the code
19:33	VanessaE	I can't make sense of his changes now.
19:33	VanessaE	I welcome pull requests if you think you can peel off the appropriate code to patch it into the current pipeworks fit
19:34	VanessaE	git*
19:34	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYxYg/screenshot_73460918.png now with an on/off switch and using word channels
19:35	VanessaE	nice job kacey
19:35	Kacey	^_^
19:35	Kacey	im an inventor today
19:39	Kacey	made another change
19:40	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYxZw/screenshot_73836640.png put in an autocraft to make steel blocks
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19:44	Dogzilla131	Working in my mod :D, teaser image for now, http://i.imgur.com/2Xn1NEG.png
19:44	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYxaA/screenshot_74081203.png added a final output to some accelerator pipes to the last chest
19:44	VanessaE	PilzAdam: what's the word on merging those few textures I contributed to minetest_game btw?
19:45	PilzAdam	dunno
19:45	VanessaE	:P
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19:45	VanessaE	hey sapier.
19:46	sapier	hello
19:47	Jordach	Kacey, two weeks of IRL work for this legit machine: http://imgur.com/a/QTh06
19:47	* rubenwardy	is playing with SPARK particles for Irrlicht...
19:47	thexyz	Jordach: is that minetest?
19:47	Jordach	thexyz, possibly
19:47	rubenwardy	what is it, Jordach?
19:47	thexyz	ok, great
19:47	Jordach	secrecy.
19:48	Kacey	its MC not mt
19:48	rubenwardy	no, it is not
19:48	Jordach	we need that
19:48	Jordach	that is an example of a machine to do work for you.
19:48	Jordach	technic needs an upgrade
19:49	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYxaw/screenshot_74394633.png the chest HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP that recieves th steelblocks
19:49	Jordach	RealBadAngel, fix technic
19:50	thexyz	Kacey: oh, you mean, that's an offtopic and therefore Jordach should be /kick'ed, right?
19:50	Kacey	no
19:50	Jordach	thexyz, i was making a point that automation is nice, but ott is evil
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19:51	Jordach	thats what they can do, but we cant even have a cake assembly line that milks a cow on its own
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19:51	rubenwardy	you can do that? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65331#p65331
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19:51	Jordach	we dont even have a set electricity type yet like me's mese volts /second
19:52	jojoa1997	sfan5 can you make another build with the new mapgen
19:52	VanessaE	Jordach: actually, I think technic's power is measured similar to joules.
19:52	Jordach	point is, if we wanna take a shot at mega mod packs, we need something like tekkit
19:53	sfan5	jojoa1997: i don't have time now
19:53	jojoa1997	ok
19:53	Jordach	VanessaE, EU/t, EMC, MJ, J,
19:53	Jordach	UE
19:53	Jordach	four different power types in tekkit
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19:54	VanessaE	that seems like overkill, especially since electricity only needs volts, amps and frequency
19:55	Kacey	upgraded my client :P
19:55	rubenwardy	watts?
19:55	VanessaE	rubenwardy: watts = volts * amps.
19:55	rubenwardy	suppose so...
19:55	Kacey	uh oh
19:56	VanessaE	what-oh?
19:56	rubenwardy	what is equal to volts * amps?
19:56	VanessaE	rubenwardy: exactly. :)
19:56	rubenwardy	(7:56:25 PM) VanessaE: what-oh:
19:56	rubenwardy	watt-ohm
19:57	sokomine	apart from the electicity for the technic-machines...what nees energy? mesecons seems more orientated towards cirquit designs with a few pistons and such...
19:57	Kacey	nvm i got it
19:58	sokomine	so it hardly matters hoch much energy there is. and the watermills from technic are powered from inifinte placable watersources, so...:-)
19:58	sfan5	celeron55, thexyz: anything rebased into 1 commit:
19:58	sfan5	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/433
19:59	mauvebic	sokomine = totally right lol
19:59	rubenwardy	sokomine: that is where finite water steps in
19:59	sfan5	wrong channel...
19:59	rubenwardy	lol
20:00	VanessaE	rubenwardy: how difficult would it be to make pipeworks use your finite water instead of the default?
20:01	sokomine	rubenwardy: your finite water is nice but would raise new problems :-) water-energy comes from the sun producing coulds, water raining down again, filling rivers...that would require too much simulation for very little point
20:01	VanessaE	so I just need a regular add_node() call with some finite water node?
20:01	VanessaE	do*
20:02	Kacey	made changes to the machine again...
20:02	Kacey	just moved the final chest
20:03	rubenwardy	for everytime you get water from finite water, you just reduce the amount in there:
20:03	rubenwardy	waterplus:finite_<level>
20:03	rubenwardy	for example waterplus:finite_10 would go to waterplus:finite_9
20:03	VanessaE	rubenwardy: suppose someone digs a pond and starts placing whole finite water nodes therein.  It fills up...but what happens if you keep adding water after the hole is full?
20:03	VanessaE	will it overflow?
20:03	sapier	hmm if you can make your assembly line to tell its wielding a glass this might already work ;-)
20:03	rubenwardy	yes
20:03	rubenwardy	if you code it right
20:04	mauvebic	finite water is nice but without reclamation and renewal the world itself becomes finite
20:04	rubenwardy	I will eventually add rain
20:05	mauvebic	youll need temperature values to determine evaporation/condensation
20:05	sokomine	in minecraft, water seems strange. in that demoworld i digged some sand at the coast - and hardly managed to swim against that strong current that never ever managed to really fill up that one cubic meter of digged sand with a whole ocean of water
20:05	sokomine	that's not the way we ought to go
20:06	rubenwardy	that is not finite water, that is water similar to ours
20:06	sokomine	hm. in mt i didn't encounter such behaviour. but maybe that's because mt water doesn't push you around
20:07	rubenwardy	yeah
20:07	rubenwardy	if there is air below a finite water block, should the water go down drop by drop or all at once?
20:08	mauvebic	that would make sense
20:08	mauvebic	if you put an intake at the bottom of a tank, the level at the top should drop
20:09	mauvebic	otherwise you could dig underneath a lake to get more water magically
20:09	mauvebic	in which case its not very finite
20:09	Kacey	the machine is getting complicated...
20:09	kizeren	Pipeworks has made my day. :)
20:10	kizeren	Kacey:  Set one up like I did.  Sorts Cobble types, dirt, gravel.  Cobble over flows to autocrafter that creates stonesquares.  Will also cook ores and sort those.  Along with sorting seeds.
20:10	kizeren	Have yet to play with teleporter tubes.
20:11	Kacey	i made mine using only teleporter tubes
20:11	VanessaE	mauvebic: can I get you to pull the latest pipeworks and issue a pull request to add the rest of the stuff you were working on?  Without rewriting the mod this time? :)
20:11	kizeren	But seems to me the problem is always going to be the furnace.   Only one input slot.  Needs some type of holding or a hopper of sorts.....
20:12	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYxaA/screenshot_74081203.png
20:12	VanessaE	kizeren: imho, it needs a proper two-input alloying capability.
20:12	Kacey	imho?
20:12	VanessaE	in my humble opinion
20:13	Kacey	ooh ok
20:13	kizeren	Vanessae: I was thinking for those who mine alot.  Have one furnace that can smelt all ore into ingots.....but the current coal furnace is slower then pipeworks.  So the ore just "pops" out of the tube.
20:14	Kacey	not for me...
20:14	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYyMw/screenshot_75875142.png final machine
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20:15	Kacey	it smelts iron into ingots, makes the ingots into blocks, and then back to ingots :P
20:15	kizeren	Kacey: Do this in a multiplayer server, and have about 30 sorting machines + technic going in the background......It will all start slowwwwwwing down.   Then the furnace bottle neck comes into play.
20:15	PilzAdam	sfan5, where do I get this "openal_stripped.zip"?
20:16	sfan5	ask celeron55 or make the file yourself
20:16	Kacey	i made a sorting machine
20:16	sfan5	the script contains a list of files needed
20:17	Kacey	this could be used for like sending people ores/blocks or whatever they need...
20:17	Kacey	making automated machines that smelt your ores...
20:17	Kacey	alot of uses
20:18	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYyNg/screenshot_76141801.png my overflow control
20:20	mauvebic	tbh im gonna keep cutting and compacting code on my version of pipeworks - i have at lest 3 more devices in mind and i cant do it w/ spaghetti code
20:20	NakedFury	mmm spaghetti
20:22	mauvebic	well considering each device is more code than the last - i need all the room i can get :p
20:23	mauvebic	though i wont be getting much done this week everyone's come down w/ the flu
20:34	VanessaE	mauvebic: well whenever you can get to it, I welcome it.
20:34	VanessaE	but each time to re-compact the code you move it farther from maintainability
20:37	Kacey	i have the best seed ever...
20:37	Kacey	4785374156777020239
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20:45	Jordach	mauvebic, split it into different .lua files
20:45	scienceandhorror	Hi. I'm currently messing with the Minetest source, and am wondering what function/method is used to get the node name as an array of chars if I have the MapNode.
20:45	Kacey	VanessaE: +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for pipeworks :P
20:45	scienceandhorror	(Or as a string, since I;m #including <string> anyway
20:46	VanessaE	Kacey: you like? :)
20:46	Kacey	like, no i dont.
20:47	Kacey	i LOVE it
20:47	VanessaE	haha
20:50	scienceandhorror	Also, was minetest-tan put back up?
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20:51	mauvebic	i dont really mind 1-2K line scripts; 2 screens = half a dozen browser tabs, lawrence welk on the VLC, xchat at any given time :P
20:51	mauvebic	distracting enough without sorting through a bajillion tabs for that one line of code :p
20:53	Kacey	http://ompldr.org/vaDYyeA/screenshot_78143435.png torch making machine
20:54	mauvebic	commenting is more important anyhoo, doesn't matter how many files there are if its not commented properly
21:00	Kacey	VanessaE: why dont locked chests connect to tubes?
21:02	TB|Vibe-X	because anybody could load things of your chest
21:02	TB|Vibe-X	you are not allowed to
21:02	TB|Vibe-X	so you would need to get privs for filter
21:02	Kacey	but for putting a crafting output into a locked chest
21:03	VanessaE	Kacey: what TB said. :_)
21:03	VanessaE	:)
21:04	TB|Vibe-X	im genious *hrhr*
21:04	VanessaE	Can anyone confirm whether deployers do or don't remove the items in their inventory when placed?
21:04	VanessaE	nodes that is, e.g. sand or wood
21:04	VanessaE	load 5 wood into one, make it place one.  Is there still 5 in the deployer's inventory?
21:05	TB|Vibe-X	VanessaE, does the tanks work in your pipe mod? i see no tank display
21:05	TB|Vibe-X	how full it is
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21:05	VanessaE	TB|Vibe-X: no, they don't. *pokes mauvebic*
21:05	scienceandhorror	Never mind, I found the function I needed,.
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21:06	TB|Vibe-X	for some versions there was a display on any side :D i got irritated when it was gone :D
21:07	VanessaE	TB|Vibe-X: mauvebic made some code to use storage tanks but has not released a patch against current pipeworkd
21:07	VanessaE	pipeworks*
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21:12	TB|Vibe-X	ah alright
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21:21	TB|Vibe-X	we shoukd think about a package management for mods :D
21:22	TB|Vibe-X	if u install one, it will download other depended packages :D
21:22	TB|Vibe-X	but this wont be such easy, i think, just because of versioning
21:22	Kacey	haha ya
21:23	VanessaE	TB|Vibe-X: such has already been discussed.
21:23	VanessaE	rubenwardy was working on just that, and I think Jeija was too
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21:29	Kacey	does pipeworks carry lava?
21:29	VanessaE	no
21:30	VanessaE	well
21:30	Kacey	aaw :(
21:30	VanessaE	it'll move lava sources via tubes :-)
21:30	VanessaE	but ti won't move lava as a liquid yet
21:30	Kacey	that should be only in singleplayer that liquid lava gets moved
21:31	VanessaE	well eventually I hope to add such code
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21:31	VanessaE	I've tried to prepare the mod in other ways to make it easier, but I don't know that I have the skills to make it work
21:32	VanessaE	so I rely on contributions from others.
21:33	PilzAdam	going to sleep now, bye
21:33	VanessaE	night
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21:37	Kacey	sand and lava together naturally?
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21:43	jojoa1997	with github version how do i save a server to favorites
21:45	thexyz	join it
21:45	jojoa1997	i did
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21:51	thexyz	great, it's saved now
21:51	thexyz	(should be)
21:51	thexyz	(probably)
21:51	thexyz	um.. i'm not sure now
21:52	thexyz	>It saves your favorite servers, they will be appended when first connecting to them, your latest connections will be at the top of the list.
21:52	thexyz	yes, it should work that way
22:00	VanessaE	thexyz: except it didn't work that way for me earlier today..
22:01	* Kacey	wishes d1 would be realeased for windows precompiled already
22:01	thexyz	VanessaE: =(
22:02	thexyz	pull requests are always welcome
22:02	VanessaE	I'd fix it if I knew what I was doing
22:08	* Kacey	finds the moon cheese from last night
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22:13	Kacey	hi menche
22:13	menche	hi
22:14	Kacey	VanessaE put out pipeworks
22:14	Kacey	it is fun :P
22:14	Kacey	you should install it on your server
22:14	menche	ok
22:15	menche	i'll install mesecons, carts, and boats if it can handle those
22:15	Kacey	mesecons will help with pipeworks
22:15	VanessaE	Kacey: it is on my server.
22:15	Kacey	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
22:15	VanessaE	but technic is there too and they conflict slightly
22:15	Kacey	i was telling menche
22:15	VanessaE	oh yes
22:15	VanessaE	duh :)
22:16	menche	wonder if someone could update the old oil mod to work with pipeworks
22:16	VanessaE	menche: I already suggested it to sfan5
22:17	Kacey	maybe we could take a swing at it
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22:22	Kacey	menche: you said something about the min server still running the old world. does this imply a secondary server?
22:23	menche	no, i'll add the new map when most buildings are restored
22:23	Kacey	restored?
22:23	menche	i'm worldediting buildings from the old map to a new map with the same seed
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22:23	Kacey	orly?
22:24	Kacey	can i help out?
22:24	menche	i'll put the secondary server with the new map up soon
22:24	Kacey	aaw
22:24	Kacey	oh
22:25	menche	the spawn city and glue city are restored
22:25	Kacey	ok
22:25	menche	i just need to get sealife cove now
22:25	menche	maybe veridanz city too
22:25	Kacey	what about my castle
22:25	menche	oh, not yet. i have to find it first
22:25	Kacey	i already saved it
22:27	Kacey	and i saved outlands city
22:28	mrtux	Hi menche
22:29	menche	hi
22:29	mrtux	will we still have our inventories on the new server?
22:29	menche	was thinking of largely starting over, but maybe
22:29	menche	guess i could transfert them
22:30	mrtux	not much use for me
22:30	mrtux	as i can't rescue things from my house ;)
22:30	mrtux	almost everything is gone
22:31	Uberi	menche: make sure you use //metasave and //metaload if there are chests/furnaces
22:31	menche	Uberi: yes, and signs
22:31	menche	i used it for some structures
22:31	Kacey	i will stash up my inventory then
22:32	Uberi	yep
22:32	mrtux	Sadly, no use for me :-(
22:32	mrtux	You should see my house
22:33	mrtux	nothing but a small part of my basemet
22:33	Kacey	haha i saw it
22:33	mrtux	ahh
22:33	mrtux	I plan on starting the tree farm again- it was fun.
22:33	Kacey	you can always live in my castle
22:33	menche	Octupuslegs built a new mall in spawn
22:33	menche	replaces that rainbow of wool and the clown head
22:33	mrtux	menche, what's the port of the new server?
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22:34	menche	i don't have it up all the time, it's on 30001 when it's up
22:34	mrtux	okay
22:34	mrtux	up atm?
22:34	mrtux	eh, nope
22:35	menche	should be starting any second now
22:36	menche	should be up now, i'm afk on the server
22:36	menche	started it the lazy gui way
22:37	Kacey	im in
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22:59	mrtux	i'll be on in a few hours menche
22:59	BackupCoder	hi
22:59	menche	ok
23:00	mrtux	also please transfer my inventory to the new server
23:00	mrtux	i stole all my wood from my shop :P
23:00	mrtux	o/
23:00	Kacey	it is in creative right now...
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23:00	mrtux	ahh
23:00	menche	ok, the new server is currently just for rebuilding and setting up
23:00	menche	when it's all ready, the new map will be uploaded to the old server on 30000
23:01	Kacey	i think imho that creative should be a priv
23:01	menche	creative is just for setting up
23:01	Kacey	but like a griefer comes by, with creative priv, a moderator could rebuild
23:02	Uberi	that's what rollback is for
23:03	hmmmm	why does it seem like youtube keeps getting worse and worse
23:03	Kacey	idk
23:03	Uberi|MC	hmmmm: "social features"
23:03	BackupCoder	cool
23:03	Uberi|MC	if you ask me, at least
23:03	BackupCoder	social!
23:03	BackupCoder	:p
23:03	hmmmm	no, i mean in terms of being able to stream without having to stop to buffer every 5 seconds
23:04	BackupCoder	yt is slow
23:04	hmmmm	before it was so bad i had to just download a video first and watch it with VLC
23:04	hmmmm	and it was downloading at 35 kB/s
23:04	hmmmm	man WTF
23:04	Kacey	menche: perhaps the shared locks mod would be cool to see on the server
23:04	Exio	better than my actual connection, at least
23:05	Uberi|MC	hmmmm: I'm getting similar results, but I keep the tabs open in the background
23:06	BackupCoder	I just dl yt
23:06	hmmmm	that shouldn't make a difference
23:06	hmmmm	it's nuts though
23:06	hmmmm	man
23:11	Uberi|MC	that is the most annoying thing ever
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