| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Doc22 |
I like creative commons 3.0 |
| 00:00 |
Kacey |
IT WORKS!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!one!!!!! |
| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
another lost project. great. |
| 00:01 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 00:01 |
mauvebic |
so if concrete is cement + sand and water, where do they get the cement from? |
| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
cement is a rock |
| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
pulverized limestone? :-) |
| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
or a chemical doo-dad. |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4345 VanessaE, you should have moved it to trash :P |
| 00:02 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.1] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 00:02 |
mrtux |
Can I have some help with worldedit? |
| 00:02 |
RealBadAngel |
cement is a powder.... |
| 00:02 |
mauvebic |
i think ill let someone else come up with cement lol ill do beer and heating |
| 00:02 |
mrtux |
I'm trying to make a worldedit file of a lighthouse I built on my server |
| 00:02 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 00:03 |
mauvebic |
im aiming for simple combos lol |
| 00:05 |
NekoGloop |
well this sucks |
| 00:05 |
mauvebic |
grapes + water = wine |
| 00:05 |
NekoGloop |
I was actually going to make this modpack and then suddenly i cant. |
| 00:05 |
mauvebic |
my wife suggested some sort of bottling device that attachs to pipes |
| 00:06 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_cement |
| 00:06 |
moltenbot |
RealBadAngel's link: Portland cement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 00:06 |
Doc22 |
that would be cool |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: no. |
| 00:06 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: dont care. |
| 00:06 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: yeah, i cant continue it. |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you, you mean "I won't continue it". |
| 00:06 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: no, i *cant* |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
no, you insist upon an incompatible license, which you can change if you want. Therefore, "won't". |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
it has been my experience in life that 80% of the time if someone says "I can't", it means "I refuse to". |
| 00:08 |
NekoGloop |
If it was any choice of mine, would the post still exist? |
| 00:08 |
RealBadAngel |
no he cant, he got stuck in concrete. were playin with liquid one and it hardened ;) |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
License: CC-BY-NC-SA <--- you can edit this to read "cc-by-sa", you know. |
| 00:09 |
mauvebic |
ill have to fix that lol |
| 00:09 |
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| 00:10 |
NekoGloop |
all in all it's just a hassle even getting the mod to simply have it's existance accepted. |
| 00:10 |
Kacey |
anyone know the node name for steel blocks? |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: just re-license it, what's so hard about that? |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: defautl:steelblock isn't it? |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
er, default:steelblock |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
yup, it is. |
| 00:11 |
Kacey |
yep |
| 00:12 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: the fact that since the previous versions exist i have to continue licensing with the same license and in the files it said very plainly that it is CC-BY-NC-SA and all in all it's a hassle getting the mod to simply have its existance accepted. |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
nekogloop your logic escapes me, mods can exist in any form you want, but theres nothing forcing these people to provide advertising space (forums) for it |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: in the time you spent defending your decision to use an incompatible license, you could have prepared a new release with the corrected license. |
| 00:13 |
NekoGloop |
free will == not accepted here |
| 00:13 |
NekoGloop |
i get it. |
| 00:13 |
NakedFury |
ohh god the license deal again |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
seriously lol |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
free will doesn't mean freedom to change the license on files you downloaded from someone else. |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
ive been avoiding commenting on it but it keeps going on and on |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
which is what you are, unfortunately, doing. |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
I'm past that point. |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
files == deleted. |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
it's the fact that c55 doesnt want content with so-called "restrictive licenses" |
| 00:15 |
Kacey |
afk dinner |
| 00:16 |
sapier |
that's why he released (L)GPL CC-BY-SA ... ;-) .. as those licenses in comparison to WTFPL don't give the right to keep your changes to yourself ;-) |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
which is precisely what i dont want. |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
however i simply dont want them making money off of it either |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62429#p62429 |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
also if minetest goes commercial I've already bought minecraft, why buy another voxel game. |
| 00:17 |
sapier |
I do understand ;-) btw you still are able to load his textures as long as they are present |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
sorry neko. |
| 00:18 |
mrtux |
anyone willing to help me with worldedit? I'm trying to make a worldedit file of a building |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: the idea isn't that MT could go commercial - it's that someone else should be able to fork it and turn *their* fork into a commercial game. |
| 00:18 |
mrtux |
nobody but oldcoder decided to help |
| 00:18 |
mrtux |
and he's not here atm |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: what are you having trouble with in it? |
| 00:19 |
mrtux |
I can't figure out how to put something I built into a worldedit file |
| 00:19 |
mrtux |
I never used worldedit before |
| 00:19 |
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| 00:20 |
NakedFury |
mrtux you select the building and do //save |
| 00:20 |
Dogzilla131 |
how do you make promix? |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: ok. Got fly/fast? |
| 00:20 |
mrtux |
yeah |
| 00:21 |
mrtux |
it's on my server |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: pick any corner of the building. Fly to that corner, but go a little above and outside of it, say 5 blocks in all three axes. |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
//pos1 |
| 00:21 |
mrtux |
ok |
| 00:21 |
mrtux |
hang on |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
then fly to the opposite corner and go underneath the house, again just past the periphery of the house by another 5 blocks. |
| 00:21 |
NekoGloop |
well apparently this is impossible. |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
/pos2 |
| 00:21 |
Dogzilla131 |
how do you make promix? |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
er, //pos2 |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
then //metasave somename |
| 00:22 |
mrtux |
ok |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
the file will end up in <minetest_folder>/worlds/<your_world>/schems |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
then you just share that file. |
| 00:22 |
NekoGloop |
guess I get to make nothing. yay. |
| 00:23 |
mrtux |
"12 nodes saved" |
| 00:23 |
mrtux |
not all of it |
| 00:24 |
mrtux |
VanessaE, ^ |
| 00:25 |
NekoGloop |
honestly, i give up |
| 00:25 |
NekoGloop |
the minetest community just commences shitstorms constantly. |
| 00:26 |
Dogzilla131 |
how do you make promix? |
| 00:26 |
mrtux |
ask mauvebic |
| 00:26 |
NekoGloop |
I cant even use the ore pattern textures because those are edited from the default. |
| 00:26 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: are you sure you had //pos1 and //pos2 set to diagonally-opposite corners? |
| 00:26 |
mrtux |
see i don't quite get this |
| 00:26 |
mrtux |
i'd need a video |
| 00:27 |
mrtux |
i'm a visual learner I think |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
diagonally opposite on all three axes, e.g. -10,-10,-10 50,50,50 |
| 00:27 |
NakedFury |
capture the complete structure inside positions 1 and 2 |
| 00:27 |
mrtux |
i tried it a second time and got 30 nodes |
| 00:27 |
mrtux |
i'll have to try it real quick |
| 00:27 |
NekoGloop |
also the nodecount is borked |
| 00:27 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
| 00:27 |
NakedFury |
I always use //save thenname and it works fine |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: you're probably selecting only one side of the building :-) |
| 00:27 |
mrtux |
yeah |
| 00:28 |
mauvebic |
promix? heaven knows, ive written a new growing mod since then that doesnt use it |
| 00:28 |
NekoGloop |
mrtux: on an angle THROUGH the building |
| 00:28 |
mrtux |
ohlol |
| 00:28 |
mrtux |
ha |
| 00:28 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62433#p62433 |
| 00:28 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.1] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 00:28 |
NekoGloop |
y'all happy now. |
| 00:30 |
mrtux |
Now I think I got it! |
| 00:30 |
mrtux |
130 nodes or so |
| 00:31 |
NekoGloop |
so much for a "kind community" |
| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
nekogloop the best thing you can do is not give a shit what people think of your choices, period |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: the community is kind as long as you respect peoples' licenses. |
| 00:32 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 00:32 |
OldCoder |
mrtux, said I was just going for cola. But if it worked out that's good. |
| 00:32 |
NekoGloop |
yeah well i basically can't make my modpack contain any kind of ores without breaking licenses. |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
then come up with your own ore generation function |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: sounds about right for a very small structure, that's roughly 5x5x5 nodes |
| 00:32 |
mrtux |
yeah it's that size or so |
| 00:33 |
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| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: the problem is also his textures, they're based on the defaults. |
| 00:33 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: I'm not copying the code. Hence why i requested generate_ore to be exposed. |
| 00:33 |
mrtux |
VanessaE, the inside of it is about 5x5 or so |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
mrtux: ok, then you might have gotten it :-) |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
now the test: go somewhere else in the world, //pos1 and then //metaload :-) |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
see if you get back what you saved |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
well yeah if youre going to borrow shit from other mods dont be surprised that other people use licenses that protect their own interests too lol |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
you cant randomly relicense shit |
| 00:34 |
mrtux |
i'll have to see |
| 00:35 |
NekoGloop |
I cant maintain a theme through the game without either not including textures or relicensing, which the latter is not going to happen because people who would change one thing and sell it. |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: then just draw your own textures and the problem will go away |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
you can do -nc all you want as long as you're not using someone else's work that isn't itself -nc |
| 00:35 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/179288-gloop is about the best i could do |
| 00:35 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: YoYo Games | Gloop |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: good enough for a MT mod :-) |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
someone else can contribute better textures later. |
| 00:36 |
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| 00:36 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: not to have it look anything like the core of minetest |
| 00:36 |
NekoGloop |
and also like i said: maintain a theme through the game |
| 00:37 |
NekoGloop |
I cant if i cant use the damn ingot, orelump, and ore. |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
MT has a theme? :-) |
| 00:37 |
mauvebic |
this is overly complicated, cant you use one license for the textures and one license for the code? |
| 00:37 |
NekoGloop |
yeah, drive away modders who want their work to not be stolen :P |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: yes, you can. |
| 00:37 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: I'd have to license all of MY textures the same way. |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
I do it that way all the time. |
| 00:38 |
mauvebic |
theyre not trying to piss you off neko, theyre just saying you cant relicense their textures, then you'd be stealing their work |
| 00:38 |
NekoGloop |
if they werent trying to piss me off they'd have dropped the topic already. |
| 00:38 |
mauvebic |
(goes both ways) |
| 00:38 |
mauvebic |
well no just get off your ass and make new textures |
| 00:38 |
mauvebic |
theyre not backing down |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
I'm sure we can think of more effective ways to piss you off, neko :-) |
| 00:39 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: well moving it to Trash would be moving it where it belongs |
| 00:39 |
mauvebic |
like there arent a million stone textures to chose from google search |
| 00:40 |
NekoGloop |
besides, nobody would contribute to a mod which has <c55> such a restrictive license. </c55> |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
well neko you cant have it both ways |
| 00:41 |
NekoGloop |
So I'll have it my way: the way in which I stop the mod |
| 00:41 |
mauvebic |
you wanna protect your works fine, dont expect them to go in default game |
| 00:41 |
NekoGloop |
I'm not expecting them to. |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
you wanna protect your textures: do the same and dont take from others by relicensing |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
why would anyone respect your license if you borrow from others ignoring theirs? |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
but then i cant maintain the minetest ingots, orelumps, or even use the ore patterns i have. |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
and besides, if it's CC-BY-SA who the fuck do i give credit to |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
just keep the same license they came in |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
celeron55 of course. |
| 00:44 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: he said he didnt make them |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
do you seriously think someone's gonna cash in on the image of an ingot with a colorize filter? |
| 00:44 |
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| 00:44 |
NekoGloop |
geez, and i thought mauvebic would give me the least shit. |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
ok then maybe they're cisoun's. |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: actually no |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
they were in 0.3 |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
thats because you think its the same cause |
| 00:46 |
davidpace |
Hello. |
| 00:46 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62440#p62440 |
| 00:46 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][x.x.x] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 00:46 |
RealBadAngel |
rotfl |
| 00:47 |
NekoGloop |
If it'll stop this shitstorm then remove the fucking mod. |
| 00:47 |
NekoGloop |
I've honestly had enough. |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann. |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
that's who contributed them. |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/stable-0.2/data/lump_of_clay.png |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
if anything, im against people making minute changes then changing the credits and license, which is what you did |
| 00:49 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 00:49 |
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| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: now you know who to credit, how to fix your license, and even how to go about getting new lump images. what's left? |
| 00:50 |
NekoGloop |
what's left is me making my own textures. |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
so make some, it ain't that hard. |
| 00:51 |
mauvebic |
if i had the time id make them for him just to settle this lol |
| 00:51 |
NekoGloop |
making something from scratch takes days even for 16x16 |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
take the ingots, tools, and lumps from 16px HDX then :-) |
| 00:51 |
NekoGloop |
then I'd have a shitstorm from you :P |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
they're nice, they're WTFPL, and they're low-rez :-) |
| 00:52 |
NekoGloop |
and also look like shit |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
and I don't give two shits who uses them :-) |
| 00:53 |
NekoGloop |
can we all just accept that effectively you've all killed my modding spirit yet again? |
| 00:53 |
mauvebic |
then dont mod if it puts you in this mood every time |
| 00:54 |
NekoGloop |
it's only the hate i get from the community when i do mod. |
| 00:54 |
mauvebic |
its a game, if its pissing you off then you're holding it wrong |
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| 00:54 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: all you had to do was comply with the original authors' license. That's it. |
| 00:54 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: so you're removing it? |
| 00:54 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 00:54 |
mauvebic |
if she does that we'll be hearing about it for days |
| 00:54 |
NekoGloop |
why. |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
gut feeling |
| 00:55 |
NekoGloop |
I've already cut the download links |
| 00:55 |
NekoGloop |
her links are the only ones there. |
| 00:55 |
VanessaE |
in fact I replaced the download link in a separate, with the correct license specified. |
| 00:55 |
VanessaE |
(as you saw) |
| 00:55 |
NekoGloop |
I know. |
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| 00:58 |
* VanessaE |
turns NekoGloop's kitten generator off and locks up the kalite fuel supply. |
| 00:58 |
NekoGloop |
the kalite was already locked up |
| 00:58 |
NekoGloop |
the kitten generator was broken |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
Nope, that was the backup one, remember? it only made two types of cats :) |
| 00:59 |
NekoGloop |
no, you broke the other one. |
| 01:00 |
* VanessaE |
opens the access panel and looks around... |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
oh, here's the problem... [machine rumbles and comes back online] |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
Loose cable from the Heisenberg compensator to the pattern buffer. |
| 01:01 |
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| 01:01 |
* VanessaE |
spawns one kitten and places it on mauvebic'v head. |
| 01:01 |
* grondilu |
had a segmentation fault when connecting to redcrab |
| 01:01 |
* grondilu |
tries again |
| 01:02 |
NekoGloop |
in case you hadnt figured out, the kitten generator was a planned part of the modpack |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
well, that's one component where you'd definitely have needed to make your own textures :-) |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
last I knew the only cat in the game was one that wasn't exactly...normal :-) |
| 01:03 |
NekoGloop |
who said it needed to be. |
| 01:03 |
NekoGloop |
and fuck off already. |
| 01:03 |
OldCoder |
Easy, kitty |
| 01:03 |
NekoGloop |
who are you talking to. |
| 01:03 |
* grondilu |
had a segmentation fault again |
| 01:04 |
* VanessaE |
spawns a few more kittens from the machine and places them in OldCoder's pile. |
| 01:04 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I am considering the answer |
| 01:04 |
OldCoder |
Oh, more kittens |
| 01:04 |
OldCoder |
Great |
| 01:04 |
* OldCoder |
looks around for the kitten portal spellbook |
| 01:04 |
NekoGloop |
so you gave him a bunch of Unknown Items |
| 01:04 |
NekoGloop |
how... generous. |
| 01:04 |
OldCoder |
Unknown Kittens |
| 01:04 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
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| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: from my generator I forked before you broke yours :-) |
| 01:05 |
OldCoder |
Could I use the Unknown Blocks to build something? |
| 01:05 |
NekoGloop |
you broke mine. |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: in theory, but the result would look...weird. |
| 01:05 |
NekoGloop |
not me. |
| 01:05 |
* sokomine |
grabs a single kitten and runs off before the spawners produce more |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: well either way I fixed it. |
| 01:06 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: you deleted it. |
| 01:06 |
* VanessaE |
hands a purring kitten to NekoGloop. |
| 01:06 |
* NekoGloop |
crushes it |
| 01:06 |
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| 01:07 |
scienceandhorror |
!up rarkenindyn.mooo.com |
| 01:07 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server rarkenindyn.mooo.com:30000 UP |
| 01:07 |
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| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I keep backups :-) |
| 01:07 |
* sokomine |
thinks that there's something wrong with nekogloops player animation |
| 01:07 |
* NekoGloop |
puts the resulting blood and gore on sokomine's head |
| 01:07 |
* sokomine |
complains! |
| 01:08 |
sokomine |
now you have to build a shower for me, nekogloop :-) |
| 01:08 |
* VanessaE |
spawns a few more (live, unharmed) kittens and puts them in sokomine's pile. |
| 01:08 |
* NekoGloop |
shoots them all. |
| 01:08 |
sokomine |
hmm...do guns work? |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 01:09 |
sokomine |
maybe they just drop food items for the kittens |
| 01:09 |
NekoGloop |
they drop more kitten innards. |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop, hush. |
| 01:11 |
* VanessaE |
sprays the channel down to clean up said guts and innards, generates a few dozen new kittens, and places then randomly about the channel. |
| 01:15 |
mauvebic |
very klingon day on irc lol |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
(also, I rebuilt my kitten generator to run on mese crystal blocks, which I happen to have an infinite supply of ;) ) |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
(so if neko cuts off the supply of kalite, that's his problem, not mine :-) ) |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
bbiab. f00d. |
| 01:17 |
mauvebic |
i already had my dinner (coffee and a cigarette lol) |
| 01:17 |
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| 01:27 |
Kacey |
back |
| 01:29 |
* Kacey |
cannot stand low-quality videos |
| 01:30 |
* VanessaE |
returns with chicken ramen + chicken + sour cream = fake chicken stroganoff :-) |
| 01:31 |
* Kacey |
is jealous |
| 01:31 |
* VanessaE |
offers |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
I shouldn't eat meals like this but DAMN IT'S GOOD. :-) |
| 01:31 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 01:32 |
Kacey |
i shouldnt eat as much as i do |
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| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
my dinner was much less healthy lol |
| 01:32 |
sokomine |
no, keep that. but do you have a dessert? |
| 01:32 |
Kacey |
mountain dew and chocolate pie was my dinner |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
mmm chocolate pie. |
| 01:32 |
sokomine |
what is mountain dew? |
| 01:33 |
* sokomine |
grabs the chocolate pie while waiting for an explanation :-) |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: think Mello Yello, or Mountain Lightning or it goes by a dozen other names. |
| 01:33 |
sokomine |
i know what mountains are; but dew? |
| 01:33 |
sokomine |
doesn't ring a bell, sorry |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
a carbonated drink with a rather...difficult to describe flavor. |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
something like lemon-lime but more subtle, less "sharp" |
| 01:33 |
sokomine |
hm. sounds strange |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
it's quite good. |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
it is the official redneck pop |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
prettu much |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
pretty much* |
| 01:35 |
sokomine |
so...a kind of orange lemonade? |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
sorry about that afk i had to help my grandpa with electronics |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
orange? no not at all |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
lemon-lime |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
ish |
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| 01:37 |
sokomine |
sounds difficult to describe |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
it is. |
| 01:37 |
NekoGloop |
sokomine: the drink of game developers |
| 01:37 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE: NPC mod is updated with more textures and aliases |
| 01:37 |
jojoa1997 |
and i did test it |
| 01:38 |
sokomine |
hm :-) maybe you ought to send celeron some then :) |
| 01:38 |
sokomine |
i don't know if it's available at where he lives. in germany it isn't |
| 01:38 |
NekoGloop |
nothing is available in germany :P |
| 01:38 |
sokomine |
i tasted rivella while in swiss. describing that without drinking it seems almost possible as well |
| 01:39 |
Kacey |
except for sausage and fast cars |
| 01:39 |
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| 01:40 |
sokomine |
saussage...depends on the part. the one in bavaria is excellent. plus there is another type that is used for a grill (? furnace you place your food on...but mostly saussages in germany and not hamburgers or suchlike) |
| 01:41 |
sokomine |
and we have something else the us doesn't: bread. try to get a bread in the us...almost impossible |
| 01:42 |
jojoa1997 |
how do i get onto ##mtmarktwain |
| 01:42 |
jojoa1997 |
when i type /join ##mtmarktwain |
| 01:42 |
NekoGloop |
getting american made bread is easy |
| 01:42 |
jojoa1997 |
i cant get on |
| 01:42 |
NekoGloop |
also america has grills |
| 01:42 |
Kacey |
and crappy cars |
| 01:43 |
sokomine |
yes, of course. grills are popular. i just wasn't sure about the term. if i translated it correct |
| 01:43 |
sokomine |
bread...no. no comparison |
| 01:43 |
Kacey |
we have donuts |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
you want real bread in America? you have to make it yourself :-/ |
| 01:44 |
sokomine |
we have a lot of diffrent types of bread. a...grey bread with a crust is delicious! doesn't seem to exist in the us |
| 01:44 |
jojoa1997 |
GO HOMEMADE BREAD |
| 01:44 |
sokomine |
ah, ok. that might work :-) |
| 01:44 |
sokomine |
some people do that here as well. there are even machines for it. though they can do only more or less quadratic breads |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
same here, sokomine. |
| 01:45 |
sokomine |
ah :-) good to know |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
but for some reason, they never seem to give you the kind of yield you get for the same cost out of store-bought bread :-/ |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
which of course is stupid, one would think you could do it yourself for super cheap...not so much anymore. |
| 01:46 |
sokomine |
the store-bought are optimized for cost...and will have slightly other idigrents |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
tru |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
true. |
| 01:46 |
Doc22_ |
mah momma makes homemade bread FTW |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
Doc22_: I miss my mom's home made bread :( |
| 01:47 |
sokomine |
it's the same here. if you go by cost - bying is much cheaper than bying the indigrents and firing up your oven. doing it at home is just useful if you want to make sure there are no indigrents inside that you don't feel comftable with or if you want a super-fresh-still-warm-one |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: true on all counts. |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
but the economy is shit here, so we all gotta focus on cost these days, such that quality takes a back seat now :( |
| 01:48 |
NekoGloop |
now banana bread that's another story |
| 01:49 |
sokomine |
there's a museum village about 2-3 hours by car away that exhibits old mills and has an old oven where bread is made. that one tastes especially good :-) |
| 01:51 |
sokomine |
hm, yes, costs are a factor as well. brötchen (=small breads where you can eat 1-3 for a meal, covered with saussage, yam or cheese) lost a lot in quality in the recent years |
| 01:51 |
sokomine |
banana bread sounds strange |
| 01:51 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone make mese crystals from blocks because jeija's mesecons does not let you |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: it's quite good. Pretty much a regular bread. but with bananas and some kind of of nuts (walnuts? I forget) added into the mixture before baking. |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
very soft, moist, and sweet. |
| 01:52 |
NekoGloop |
yes walnuts |
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| 01:52 |
NekoGloop |
also a tad bit of sugar the way we make it ;-) |
| 01:52 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone make mese crystals from blocks because jeija's mesecons does not let you |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: his recipes are out of date :-/ |
| 01:53 |
sokomine |
walnut bread exists here as well. more of a rather french baguette variant than german bread. banana...havn't seen that |
| 01:53 |
jojoa1997 |
i mean from block to crystal |
| 01:53 |
jojoa1997 |
oh ok |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: yeah we know, thing is...I thought I fixed that? are you using the latest mesecons git? |
| 01:53 |
NekoGloop |
mesecons is broken last i checked |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
I know I committed a code change recently to address that. |
| 01:54 |
jojoa1997 |
oldcoders server |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: what version/git pull is your copy of mesecons? |
| 01:54 |
sokomine |
btw, mobf worked fine on my singleplayer world. this time i eliminated some other mods that did cause lag and stayed a bit in one area before running around. that seems to have helped mapgen |
| 01:54 |
jojoa1997 |
he has mese crystals though i can get it through /giveme |
| 01:54 |
sokomine |
the new trader npc is great! |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
ok, if he has mese crystals but you can't cut a mese block apart, his copy of mesecons is out of date |
| 01:55 |
* VanessaE |
checks her server. |
| 01:55 |
NekoGloop |
that should be default function seeing as the mese block's a storage block. |
| 01:55 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE: can you add my update |
| 01:56 |
jojoa1997 |
to npcs |
| 01:56 |
sokomine |
your npc where doing fine when i last checked my house on vanessas server :-) some where running around in it, some where exploring the vicinity |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
ok, on my server, I'm definitely running the latest git of mesecons and of mintest_game (as the basis) |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: please update your copy of minetest_game and of mesecons. |
| 01:57 |
mauvebic |
hrmm, mixer gobbled up 1K barley and gave very little beer :( |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: soon; regarding mesecons, the correct behavior is to *cook* a fragment, a crystal, or a block, in a furnace or oven, to get mesecons wires. If you have old minetest_game without crystals, then the craft switches to old mese = craft into mesecons wires. |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
so in your case, OldCoder just needs to pull the latest mesecons git. |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
his minetest_game is up to date, he's running glooptest. |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
revised: |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: please pull latest mesecons git. |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62450#p62450 i lol'd |
| 02:00 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][x.x.x] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 02:01 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: did you find who made the ingot texture? |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: Erhelemann (sp) |
| 02:02 |
NekoGloop |
*ingot* |
| 02:03 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I can't until Jeija talks to me again |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: checking... |
| 02:04 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, It breaks a bunch of mods |
| 02:04 |
OldCoder |
I have been waiting to speak with him again |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: as of 0.2, it's marked as celeron55's contribution. |
| 02:04 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, IIRC my mesecons is mid-December |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: too old, I made the necessary update about a week ago or so. |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
(/me has commit access to mesecons master repo) |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
how does latest mesecons break things? |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: changes in the API. |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
oh right, to the stupid form. |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, see above; I need to speak with Jeija. It breaks all the mods. |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: anyway, ingots, coal, and iron are celeron55's, clay lumps are by Erlehemann. |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Jeija and I patched BobBlocks but there are a bunch more |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Technic is not compatible |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: thank you |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ^ |
| 02:07 |
RealBadAngel |
im workin on new mesecons API |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: wait, you must be using the nextgen branch? |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
don't use that. |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
how did the api of mesecons change? |
| 02:08 |
RealBadAngel |
a lot ;) |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
aw shit. |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
how did it change |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
jeija merged nextgen to master *right after* my last change |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
dammit |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
haha |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/5921f6d46caa18310435046a22d5aa0f529998f0 |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: use this commit. |
| 02:09 |
RealBadAngel |
just download it, and look at pistons code |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
yup, github is shit ;) |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
it's the last one before the nextgen merge |
| 02:09 |
RealBadAngel |
you will see how the api works now |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: git pull, git reset 5921f6d46caa18310435046a22d5aa0f529998f0, then install it. |
| 02:09 |
RealBadAngel |
there are not register on on/off functions |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
that'll get you the commit jojoa1997 needs, without breaking technic et.al |
| 02:10 |
RealBadAngel |
you define them together with node definition |
| 02:10 |
RealBadAngel |
same way as on_drop, on_place etc |
| 02:10 |
Kacey |
do i want the new api? |
| 02:11 |
RealBadAngel |
its nice |
| 02:11 |
RealBadAngel |
i prefer it over the old one |
| 02:12 |
Kacey |
how is it better? |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
how hard would it be to make the mesecons be floating wires like rba's wires? |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
that way you could make them be vertical a lot easier :P |
| 02:13 |
Kacey |
there r vertical mesecons |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
which have to be crafted. |
| 02:14 |
Kacey |
or you can cheat |
| 02:15 |
Kacey |
make a tree out of mesecons |
| 02:17 |
NekoGloop |
seeing as the github gui now does most of what it should, i will prolly use github now |
| 02:21 |
Kacey |
downloaded new mesecons |
| 02:21 |
mauvebic |
there http://www.zimg.eu/i/2885501987 now i can make dinner lol |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
dinner usually entails some kind of food, in addition to the drink. |
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| 02:23 |
NekoGloop |
If i make a node do negative damage, does it do the hurt animation or not? |
| 02:24 |
mauvebic |
i meant real dinner lol |
| 02:24 |
NekoGloop |
:) |
| 02:25 |
NekoGloop |
what does .gitignore do? |
| 02:26 |
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| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
hrm, dont use git lol |
| 02:26 |
NekoGloop |
suck it. |
| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
id have an easier time learning spanish |
| 02:26 |
NekoGloop |
what does it do? |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: what does .gitignore do? |
| 02:27 |
mauvebic |
its only good for projects with many inputs (imo) |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: filters out files you don't want in the project |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
you add patters to it e.g. *~ |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: personally i just wanna have one download link and that's it |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: so i can filter out thumbs.db? |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
just put thumbs.db in the file? |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
just put that filename into .gitignore |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
on a separate line |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
one line per pattern/filename |
| 02:29 |
* marktraceur |
would like to re-announce |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
In 13 days, we'll be having a documentation sprint for core |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
Consider coming, it'll be fun |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4243 |
| 02:29 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: Documentation sprint, 2013-01-19, in #minetest-doc (Page 1) - Unofficial engine development - Minetest Forums |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
Also, if you're in the Bay Area, maybe we can organize some in-person sprinting also. |
| 02:30 |
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| 02:30 |
Kacey |
how do i work a reciever? |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
a receiver? those are an automatic component used with wall levers and buttons. |
| 02:31 |
jojoa1997 |
just wanted to say cya wont be here as often now that school starts tomorrow. will still be here but not regularly adios |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
just place wires, receivers will appear on their own as needed |
| 02:31 |
sokomine |
btw, any sightings of redcrab? besides that automatic message on his server? |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: what was that last thing I saw him say just before I signed off? I didn't see all of it |
| 02:31 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/jungle.png |
| 02:31 |
jojoa1997 |
see you guys later |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
rea+1 |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: +1 |
| 02:32 |
RealBadAngel |
for me? theyre yours design :) |
| 02:32 |
sokomine |
no, that wasn't him. we all think it's an automatic message. there's one when the 2d-map is generated as well |
| 02:32 |
sokomine |
the message said that the server will have to be restarted |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: +1 for doing something useful with my design, which I shamelessly copied from bas080's original mod :D |
| 02:32 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I am using git |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, If you can help me work this out I'd like to discuss it this week |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
Can't pull tonight |
| 02:33 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: when you're ready, git pull; git reset 5921f6d46caa18310435046a22d5aa0f529998f0; then copy the mesecons folder to your working install. |
| 02:33 |
VanessaE |
that'll avoid any adaptations of other mods. I run that commit. |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
Good |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
Can we discuss this in a few days? |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: ok, now how do i get a zipball/tarball download link? ;) |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
I have spent several days |
| 02:33 |
VanessaE |
sure. |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
On MT changes |
| 02:34 |
sokomine |
the jungletrees look good but could use improvements. those of bas* come with diffrent colored leaves and have those...roots at the bottom. would be great if that would be possible as well :-) |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: top of the page, left. there's a ZIP button. copy link location from that button. |
| 02:34 |
NekoGloop |
wasnt there a way to get a link that said zipball in it? |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/yourname/yourmod/archive/master.zip |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
e.g. https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/master.zip |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
e.g. https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/archive/master.zip |
| 02:35 |
VanessaE |
yep, that should do. |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
so click it then :D |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62192#p62192 |
| 02:36 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.2] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 02:37 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=I2XdnuZKMlM hahaha im going to die |
| 02:37 |
moltenbot |
Kacey's link: Let's Play Minecraft Episode 21 - YouTube |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4vgTGST2o |
| 02:37 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ???/Lon???????/Matryoshka -Band Arrange Ver- ????/Soraru? - YouTube |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you should move everything up one level, or put a modpack.txt at the top level of your git tree. |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
makes downloads easier. |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
(for the less-than-educated out there who can't figure it out :) ) |
| 02:42 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: happy? https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/3849349c19fb9f8ad0eb9b821efb8f5f98e71ae9 |
| 02:42 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Create modpack.txt ? 3849349 ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 02:42 |
Kacey |
well i must go to bed i will be back tomorrow |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
perfect :) |
| 02:43 |
NekoGloop |
Well i fear I've falled a bit behind |
| 02:43 |
NekoGloop |
I expected to have made some kind of machine at this point. |
| 02:43 |
NekoGloop |
Oh well. |
| 02:44 |
NekoGloop |
github was incredibly easy to use, now that the gui actually functions as more than a restricted file exploror |
| 02:44 |
NekoGloop |
exploror, it seems. |
| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: now you get to make a texture in HDX for compressed kalite and chains! :D |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
compressed kalite is..an ingot yes? |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
chains...er, 3dforniture has those :-) |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
compressed kalite is indeed an ingot |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/blob/master/glooptest/textures/glooptest_chainlink.png |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
(of all the mods to have chains, 3d *furniture*...odd huh?) |
| 02:47 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: glooptest/glooptest/textures/glooptest_chainlink.png at master ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
it's not furniture, it's *forniture* |
| 02:48 |
NekoGloop |
there's a difference ;-) |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:49 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commits/master six commits in one day because I didnt wanna make up my mind :) |
| 02:49 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Commit History ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I need to see how they behave in practice first before I can know just what to make them look like in HDX. |
| 02:50 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: they are a craft item, think of like a swingset, the chains that are on those. |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 02:50 |
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NekoGloop |
VanessaE: like this http://www.backyardcity.com/Swing-Set-Accessories/PIP-Swing-Chain-Extensions.htm |
| 02:50 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Swing Chains for your Swingset Swings - Chain-Extensions |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
right, I got ya. |
| 02:51 |
NekoGloop |
cept they arent zinc, they're steel but close enough :) |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
I'll add support for it tomorrow. |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
too tired to do any texturing now |
| 02:52 |
NekoGloop |
heh. |
| 02:52 |
NekoGloop |
compressed kalite is kalite ingots, cept not made in a furnace. |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
shiny or dull? |
| 02:53 |
NekoGloop |
shiny |
| 02:54 |
NekoGloop |
your normal ingot texture should work, although you could also make it a sheet metal as well |
| 03:10 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on the floor in the middle of the room and walks away quietly |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/commit/901f28e148b5eec3b9ebf73de5f046288658f922 |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
opinions? |
| 03:13 |
Doc22_ |
looks good |
| 03:13 |
NekoGloop |
looks great. |
| 03:13 |
Doc22_ |
lol neko you beat me in good comments |
| 03:17 |
NekoGloop |
ok well the minetest api has me annoyed again |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
it does that to everyone. |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
open, you damn github program |
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| 03:33 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 03:33 |
mauvebic |
How many javascript developers does it take to change a lightbulb? |
| 03:33 |
mauvebic |
10,000. 1 to hold the bulb, and 9,999 to turn the house around. |
| 03:43 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:51 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/the_jungle.png |
| 03:55 |
NakedFury |
it is fitting to play welcome to the jungle |
| 03:55 |
NakedFury |
the game needs extra shrubs for the jungle |
| 03:55 |
RealBadAngel |
i used existin stuff just |
| 03:56 |
RealBadAngel |
vines as jungle tree fruits |
| 03:56 |
NakedFury |
I know |
| 04:04 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: plantlife mod, junglegrass section. four sizes, and they grow and die. |
| 04:06 |
NakedFury |
need to check it out. 1 variety only or various with zies? |
| 04:06 |
NakedFury |
sizes |
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RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/the_jungle2.png |
| 04:07 |
NakedFury |
are those trees using 2 different leafs? |
| 04:07 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 04:07 |
NakedFury |
leafs or leaves? |
| 04:07 |
RealBadAngel |
leaves ;) |
| 04:08 |
NakedFury |
that also sounds like *NakedFury leaves* |
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| 04:11 |
NekoGloop |
not that many fucking windows dammit |
| 04:15 |
kaeza1 |
hey Neko :3 |
| 04:15 |
kaeza1 |
hey all |
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* NekoGloop |
punts github.exe across the room |
| 04:32 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: are you going to make unified_inventory use the new creative digging? |
| 04:41 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/58ebe714456d7326c4d5d31e1520a12d7477f8f5 this should be of use :P |
| 04:41 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Bugfix: don't derp with item names ? 58ebe71 ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 04:50 |
* NekoGloop |
now has an avatar on github w00t :3 |
| 04:51 |
* VanessaE |
peeks in. |
| 04:53 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: also, make Unified Inventory always give infinite items like default creative does now. |
| 04:55 |
NekoGloop |
miau |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
meow. |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: kitten generator working again? :) |
| 04:55 |
NekoGloop |
no |
| 04:57 |
NekoGloop |
pfft, sync damn windows github client |
| 04:57 |
NekoGloop |
i wanna see my awesome avatar in the program |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
no sync :) |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
unless you've managed to cram 21 minutes' worth of elapsed time into the last 5. :-) |
| 05:02 |
NekoGloop |
yes because I'm a badass like that ;-) |
| 05:02 |
NekoGloop |
also, have mese picks become a crapton more OP? |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
OP? |
| 05:03 |
NekoGloop |
over-powered |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
dunno, all I changed was the recipe. :-) |
| 05:04 |
NekoGloop |
well I've tunneled to the point i can find talinite without breaking mine |
| 05:04 |
* VanessaE |
refreshes the git page madly waiting for that last commit to show up |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
how deep? |
| 05:05 |
NekoGloop |
250 under sea level |
| 05:05 |
NekoGloop |
also what commit? |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
a mese pick can reach to -250 easily. |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
[01-06 23:57] <NekoGloop> pfft, sync damn windows github client <-- that commit. |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
a mese pick has..what..1000 uses? |
| 05:06 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: I was talking about my avatar |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
OH |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:06 |
NekoGloop |
on the client i still have the default avatar |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
wait a minute here... |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
minetest.register_tool("default:pick_mese", { |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
[...] |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
cracky = {times={[1]=2.0, [2]=1.0, [3]=0.5}, uses=20, maxlevel=3}, |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
} |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
20??? |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
surely I'm misreading that. |
| 05:07 |
NekoGloop |
that would explain why arol tools never ever die |
| 05:07 |
NekoGloop |
seeing as they have 300 |
| 05:08 |
NakedFury |
they should be higher |
| 05:10 |
NakedFury |
a thousand millions times more if that is possible and not just stupid crap on my part |
| 05:10 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3ozdA |
| 05:10 |
NekoGloop |
ah the luminous glow of talinite ore |
| 05:11 |
NekoGloop |
that ore vein is literally those two blocks btw |
| 05:12 |
NakedFury |
could the light it gives off be more bluish? |
| 05:12 |
NekoGloop |
not to my knowledge |
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NekoGloop |
there's also kalite like, everywhere. |
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| 05:14 |
NakedFury |
being able to color the light would be nice |
| 05:14 |
kaeza1 |
back |
| 05:14 |
hmmmm |
that was already done before |
| 05:14 |
hmmmm |
it made things 3x as slow |
| 05:14 |
hmmmm |
but it was very cool looking |
| 05:14 |
NekoGloop |
it looks like there's blood covering the walls of the cave, with all this kalite |
| 05:15 |
NakedFury |
ohh it was tested and proved NOT to work? sucks |
| 05:19 |
NekoGloop |
I found natural mese blocks! :DDDD |
| 05:21 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3ozdQ kalite EVERYWHERE |
| 05:21 |
NekoGloop |
also 5 stacks of mese crystal fragments |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
why so many fragments> |
| 05:22 |
NekoGloop |
because i wanted to |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
eh |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
I ..uh...think you should tone down how much kalite you generate :) |
| 05:24 |
NekoGloop |
I cant understand the arcane parameters that go into generate_ore ;-) |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
chunks_per_mapblock = 1/6/6/6, |
| 05:25 |
NekoGloop |
just a few ;-) |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
make that final value smaller, I think. |
| 05:25 |
NakedFury |
example? |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
that is, 1/7/7/7 instead of 1/6/6/6 let's say |
| 05:25 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/c251a3be9a43475d74148295fcf1614d220d6cfd |
| 05:25 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Less kalite, more rock. ? c251a3b ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 05:25 |
mauvebic |
vanessa still awake? |
| 05:25 |
NekoGloop |
Because rocks are cool. |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
because that's just "one divided by seven, divided by seven, divided by 7", thus 1/343 or a 0.29% chance? |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: yes |
| 05:26 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: i changed it to eight, shouldnt be more common than coal now. |
| 05:27 |
NakedFury |
is that lower than divide by 6? |
| 05:27 |
mauvebic |
should i give the front of the mixers distinctive textures? |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: yeah, since they're divisors, larger numbers to the right of the first / result in smaller chances. |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
1/6/6/6 = 1/(6*6*6) = 1/216 or about 0.46% |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: definitely, yes. |
| 05:28 |
mauvebic |
ill give it like, an LCD display |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
sounds good. |
| 05:29 |
NekoGloop |
good idea for a project: fix what's broke before adding more broken stuff |
| 05:29 |
NekoGloop |
mojang could learn something there. |
| 05:29 |
NekoGloop |
10 commits, one night. |
| 05:29 |
NekoGloop |
all because I fix something as soon as it breaks xD |
| 05:30 |
NakedFury |
mojang is sort of always fixing stuff. I would say good ratio of new stuff/fix stuff |
| 05:30 |
NakedFury |
from what I read of the snapshot changelogs |
| 05:31 |
NekoGloop |
they just say they fixed it but in reality they broke it in a different way |
| 05:31 |
mauvebic |
the mixer is working reasonably bug free, a stack of 100 barley will give a full tanks beer :-) |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: nice. |
| 05:32 |
mauvebic |
all thats left is the valves |
| 05:32 |
NakedFury |
to be fixed in next snapshot then finally fixed 6 months later for that huge release |
| 05:32 |
NekoGloop |
how do i link to a specific point in a youtube video? |
| 05:34 |
NakedFury |
you got to google that because I always forget and end up googling it |
| 05:38 |
NekoGloop |
I really should be in bed |
| 05:38 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
ditto |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
feel like crap |
| 05:39 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 05:39 |
NekoGloop |
well that's not me |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
I have a cold coming on, and no amount of chicken soup is gonna stop it :-/ |
| 05:39 |
NekoGloop |
I'm actually more energetic at nighttime |
| 05:40 |
NekoGloop |
I just have to be somewhere in the morning. |
| 05:41 |
NekoGloop |
I wonder if if this mod gets anywhere if people will make addons for it |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
they will if you write it well |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
and give it lots of time to catch on of course |
| 05:41 |
NekoGloop |
seeing as everything that will do something other than compatibility or items will have an api :-) |
| 05:42 |
NekoGloop |
personally the glooptest.ore_module.register_ore is exponentially easier to use than writing it all out by hand. |
| 05:42 |
NekoGloop |
also it's only one dependancy: glooptest |
| 05:42 |
NakedFury |
what we need is a text editor plugin that has easy access to all the minetest.something_here_to_register commands |
| 05:43 |
NekoGloop |
not all the different modules, just glooptest. |
| 05:43 |
NekoGloop |
because of how i set it up :D |
| 05:43 |
NekoGloop |
honestly only good things seem to be coming of my way of doing a modpack :D |
| 05:44 |
NekoGloop |
also https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/blob/master/glooptest/ore_module/init.lua#L8 |
| 05:44 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: glooptest/glooptest/ore_module/init.lua at master ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 05:44 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
| 05:45 |
NekoGloop |
in case if anyone is wondering, kalite torches are better to use than coal ones because lava wont make them burst into flames. |
| 05:47 |
mauvebic |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/2204477806 |
| 05:47 |
NekoGloop |
why is it pumping piss. |
| 05:47 |
mauvebic |
.. |
| 05:47 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: pull request? *puppy dog eyes* |
| 05:48 |
NekoGloop |
sorry, that's just what it looks like |
| 05:48 |
NekoGloop |
make it more brown or something |
| 05:48 |
mauvebic |
well without valves working storage tanks are still pretty useless |
| 05:48 |
mauvebic |
theyll empty out with a connection |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
and btw, that's a waste of perfectly good beer there :) |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
(not that I care about beer) |
| 05:48 |
mauvebic |
imagine: beer fountains at spawn lol |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
hw=eh |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:49 |
mauvebic |
either placing a valve under the tank will stop it empty or ill program a punchnode/meta switch |
| 05:49 |
NekoGloop |
nu! |
| 05:49 |
NekoGloop |
use on_rightclick! |
| 05:49 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
| 05:49 |
mauvebic |
though id rather do it through valves then add more metas lol |
| 05:50 |
NekoGloop |
also, https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/wiki this. |
| 05:50 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Home ? GloopMaster/glooptest Wiki ? GitHub |
| 05:50 |
VanessaE |
better to make valves work :) |
| 05:50 |
NakedFury |
I wish github links didnt have so many ???? marks on them |
| 05:50 |
NekoGloop |
because of the dots |
| 05:50 |
NakedFury |
is it not sure about the title? |
| 05:50 |
NekoGloop |
because of the dots |
| 05:54 |
NakedFury |
its late. good night |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
night |
| 05:55 |
NekoGloop |
tis never too late for minetest |
| 05:57 |
NekoGloop |
random commit: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/869e3979782ab95a0d186257bece470effb6b18c |
| 05:57 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Update README.txt ? 869e397 ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 05:59 |
NekoGloop |
wait, could i add .gitignore itself to .gitignore and have it work? |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
I think it's ignored by default isn't it? |
| 06:00 |
NekoGloop |
if it was then would it be in my repo? |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
true. |
| 06:02 |
NekoGloop |
nope. doesnt look like it |
| 06:03 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/064b67c82fbdbe766419501f298df912e08cb463#commitcomment-2391835 |
| 06:03 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Ignore .gitignore ? 064b67c ? GloopMaster/glooptest ? GitHub |
| 06:05 |
NekoGloop |
I DARE YOU TO XD |
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| 06:38 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 06:39 |
Oblivion1500 |
hey oldcoder, how are you? |
| 06:39 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, Hi! |
| 06:39 |
OldCoder |
Not sure |
| 06:39 |
OldCoder |
I will try to |
| 06:39 |
OldCoder |
make use of commits mentioned above though |
| 06:39 |
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| 06:40 |
Oblivion1500 |
lol yea |
| 06:41 |
kaeza |
hi all |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
hey |
| 06:47 |
kaeza |
what's up V? |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
not much |
| 06:49 |
kaeza |
!up vanessae.mine.bz |
| 06:49 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP |
| 06:50 |
kaeza |
strange... |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
lemme guess, deader than 4 o'clock? |
| 06:50 |
kaeza |
? |
| 06:50 |
kaeza |
connected ^_^ |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
[01-07 01:50] <kaeza> strange... <--- what? |
| 06:51 |
kaeza |
04:44:57: ERROR[main]: Client disconnected <-- this |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 06:51 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Hi |
| 06:51 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, what was that commit again? |
| 06:51 |
OldCoder |
For Mesecons? |
| 06:51 |
OldCoder |
I will try it now |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/5921f6d46caa18310435046a22d5aa0f529998f0 |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
that one |
| 06:52 |
OldCoder |
Now... |
| 06:52 |
OldCoder |
Do I get latest mesecons git and apply that as a patch |
| 06:53 |
OldCoder |
Or is that new |
| 06:53 |
OldCoder |
and latest mesecons git has it already? |
| 06:53 |
OldCoder |
In short, what do I do? |
| 06:54 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ^ |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 06:55 |
OldCoder |
ok? |
| 06:55 |
OldCoder |
I have pulled git |
| 06:55 |
OldCoder |
But I did this |
| 06:56 |
OldCoder |
just the other day and most mods were not compatible; including technic |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
cd mesecons folder; git pull; git reset 5921f6d46caa18310435046a22d5aa0f529998f0 ; copy the mesecons folder to your usual place. |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
pretty simple :-) |
| 06:56 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 06:56 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 06:56 |
OldCoder |
So this reverts to a slightly older version? |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 06:56 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 06:56 |
OldCoder |
How does Jeija feel about this? |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
with my luck I'm using the 'reset' command wrong, but it works anyway. |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
I dunno, I haven't seen him in a couple of days |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
but I get the impression that he'd rather mod authors adapt to the API changes. |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
Uh huh |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
When it breaks |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
About every mod |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
No problem |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
With many mod authors gone |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
I will be delighted surely to go patch a dozen mods |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
:P |
| 06:58 |
OldCoder |
So this is a new mesecons that will work with old mods |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
this is the last commit before the nextgen branch was merged |
| 07:01 |
kaeza |
WE URGENTLY NEED A STANDARDIZED MOD DATABASE!! |
| 07:01 |
kaeza |
it should make it easier to update mods |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Hah |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, There are no standard mods |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
I modify them myself |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
Here is the database |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/data/modzips/ |
| 07:04 |
moltenbot |
OldCoder's link: MOD ZIP files used in OldCoder worlds |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
The source is the database |
| 07:04 |
kaeza |
Yeah |
| 07:04 |
kaeza |
but I mean why won't everybody use github |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
That is a different issue |
| 07:04 |
kaeza |
so a simple git pull would pdate the mod |
| 07:04 |
kaeza |
update* |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I have updated Pipeworks |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Yep |
| 07:05 |
mauvebic |
not everyone likes using github :p |
| 07:05 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, apparently you have running water now |
| 07:05 |
mauvebic |
or knows how lol |
| 07:05 |
kaeza |
true |
| 07:05 |
kaeza |
(I didn't know how to use it until recently) |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: yes, but it's not entirely up to date. |
| 07:06 |
* VanessaE |
looks at mauvebic :-) |
| 07:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, explain |
| 07:06 |
kaeza |
I am working on a command line program that scans the readme for download links |
| 07:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, should I update again? |
| 07:06 |
kaeza |
and guesses which program to use to update |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
Any other mod changes? |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
Anybody wish to specify mods? Come'n' get em |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
Mods! |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
nope, mauvebic just needs to get that pull request put together so pipeworks can have running beer/oil/lava/plasma too :) |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
| 07:07 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: computerz :P |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, ? |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
Is it updated? |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, is computer updated? |
| 07:08 |
kaeza |
oh, it was two weeks ago :P |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
Link again please |
| 07:08 |
kaeza |
I ned to update that |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
I will update right now |
| 07:08 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: it has "Admiral" 64 and 128. it's perfect :) |
| 07:08 |
mauvebic |
i need coffee if im going to get valves finished lol wife wont be home till 6am anyhow |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, computer? |
| 07:08 |
* VanessaE |
gives mauvebic coffee intravenously. |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
Link please |
| 07:08 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-computer-0.1.4.zip |
| 07:08 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 |
| 07:09 |
OldCoder |
Those are both the same, right? |
| 07:09 |
kaeza |
ninja'd |
| 07:09 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 07:09 |
mauvebic |
strangely well timed with the mesecons discussion lol - http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/01/07/0146236/what-are-the-unwritten-rules-of-deleting-code?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter |
| 07:09 |
moltenbot |
mauvebic's link: What Are the Unwritten Rules of Deleting Code? - Slashdot |
| 07:09 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: the link I gave is the direct link |
| 07:09 |
kaeza |
VanessaE linked to the topic post |
| 07:10 |
kaeza |
forum topic* |
| 07:10 |
VanessaE |
I always link to the forum post unless I have reason not to :-) |
| 07:10 |
kaeza |
k :P |
| 07:10 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: so...NES, Wii, Xbox.... :) |
| 07:10 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: TextBox 180 |
| 07:11 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 07:11 |
VanessaE |
not pictured in your first post :) |
| 07:11 |
kaeza |
not yet in |
| 07:11 |
kaeza |
I am doing the N64, NES, SNES, ... |
| 07:11 |
kaeza |
have way too many things in my TO-DO list |
| 07:12 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 07:12 |
mauvebic |
lol get in line |
| 07:12 |
mauvebic |
when im done with pipeworks i have to go back to nodex and make it so you can sell land |
| 07:12 |
kaeza |
heh |
| 07:13 |
mauvebic |
and blueprints |
| 07:15 |
mauvebic |
otherwise its not really an economy mod if you cant assign values to everything |
| 07:15 |
kaeza |
any suggestion of a good program intended for pixel artists? gimp is not very friendly in that sense |
| 07:15 |
kaeza |
I was looking for something like Character Raiser |
| 07:16 |
kaeza |
but it's only for 8bit images |
| 07:16 |
mauvebic |
i only use gimp/blender (not for the same thing) |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
no idea |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
been years since I used a program intended for pixel art |
| 07:16 |
mauvebic |
why not turn the zoom way up on gimp? |
| 07:17 |
kaeza |
oh lol forgot I had ASEprite installed ages ago |
| 07:18 |
mauvebic |
sweet coffee's ready |
| 07:21 |
mauvebic |
theres just the 1 left-to-right valve with on /off states? |
| 07:21 |
VanessaE |
yup |
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| 07:22 |
kaeza |
cr*p |
| 07:22 |
mauvebic |
hmm |
| 07:22 |
mauvebic |
ok how about if the tanks take 10x more time to empty as they do to fill up? |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
wireless being stupid again? :-) |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: seems okay to me |
| 07:23 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: yeah :( |
| 07:23 |
VanessaE |
they're supposed to be storage tanks, not pumps :-) |
| 07:23 |
mauvebic |
well yeah but without an up/down valve i cant stop the flow from tanks completely |
| 07:23 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 07:23 |
mauvebic |
so 1:10 empty:fill |
| 07:23 |
VanessaE |
ok go with it |
| 07:24 |
VanessaE |
if a solution presents itself later that lets us up the flow rate without breaking, we can fix it then |
| 07:24 |
mauvebic |
well i was already thinking they shouldn't empty out as fast as they fill up |
| 07:25 |
mauvebic |
but yeah ill have to figure out some to cut the flow/turn the tanks off |
| 07:26 |
mauvebic |
well the valve should be easier than i though then its the same code than entry panels but sideways lol |
| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
NEWS Worlds going down for updates and backup |
| 07:28 |
OldCoder |
Any more mod updates or requests? |
| 07:28 |
OldCoder |
No? |
| 07:28 |
kaeza |
streets? |
| 07:30 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Explain |
| 07:30 |
OldCoder |
streets? |
| 07:30 |
kaeza |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2984 |
| 07:30 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [Mod] Create modern cities: Asphalt and more [1.0] [streets] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 07:30 |
OldCoder |
R |
| 07:30 |
OldCoder |
Interesting |
| 07:30 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, mauvebic ^ any comments? |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
good mod. |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
I have it on mine,. |
| 07:31 |
mauvebic |
yeah its well thought-out |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
It's a deal then |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
We go modern! |
| 07:31 |
mauvebic |
i dont have it but i gave em a trafficlight to make use of :-) |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
Streets a'comin' |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
Looks fun! |
| 07:31 |
mauvebic |
i already use like special nodes for roads that are highlighted by the mapper tools |
| 07:32 |
mauvebic |
i wanted to adapt the ufo edit i have to add a car for that mod |
| 07:33 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 07:35 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: GTA: MT :P |
| 07:36 |
mauvebic |
its really not difficult i already have a free mazda model i just need to remove elevation from ufos |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
ok, time for me to get to bed. Night all. |
| 07:36 |
mauvebic |
nity nite |
| 07:36 |
kaeza |
night V |
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| 07:39 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 07:40 |
mauvebic |
mills are doable with meshes |
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| 08:09 |
OldCoder |
Does anybody know how to fix register_effector for new mesecons? |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, the new mesecons still breaks technic and everything else. I need to revert. |
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| 08:43 |
kaeza |
zzz |
| 08:47 |
mauvebic |
sweet i got valves working, and just in time for the early morning 420 lol |
| 08:49 |
kaeza |
cool |
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| 08:50 |
markveidemanis |
hello |
| 08:50 |
markveidemanis |
i come in peace |
| 08:50 |
markveidemanis |
Honestly! |
| 08:51 |
mauvebic |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/2900400259 |
| 08:51 |
mauvebic |
thats pretty much it for tonight lol |
| 08:51 |
kaeza |
hi markv |
| 08:51 |
markveidemanis |
i love it! |
| 08:51 |
markveidemanis |
what are the blue things |
| 08:51 |
mauvebic |
the fun part begins with merging all this back with pipeworks lol |
| 08:52 |
markveidemanis |
hHahQAHahaAHahAhAhahA |
| 08:52 |
markveidemanis |
is there a minetest server channel |
| 08:53 |
mauvebic |
no there are varying degrees of dev channels tho lol |
| 08:53 |
markveidemanis |
im starting one! |
| 08:53 |
markveidemanis |
#mt-servers |
| 08:53 |
markveidemanis |
chanserv guard? |
| 08:53 |
markveidemanis |
how ti |
| 08:54 |
mauvebic |
good luck even this channel gets pretty boring at times |
| 08:54 |
markveidemanis |
no, #mtmt is the mt-server channel |
| 08:54 |
markveidemanis |
oh, hi kaeza :D |
| 08:56 |
markveidemanis |
Silence in the Court! |
| 08:56 |
markveidemanis |
no, Order In The Court |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
| 09:06 |
markveidemanis |
i made a new Channel |
| 09:06 |
markveidemanis |
#mt-servers |
| 09:07 |
markveidemanis |
join there to discuss servers |
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| 09:25 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: for some reason the locked chests are not getting an inventory, what could it be? |
| 09:28 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, which world? |
| 09:28 |
kaeza |
30004 |
| 09:28 |
OldCoder |
The latest changes are simply this: |
| 09:29 |
OldCoder |
Added or updated Streets, Computer, Glooptest. Mesecons. Many more changes to Mark Twain world only. |
| 09:29 |
OldCoder |
Shouldn't be an issue. |
| 09:29 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, can you test this in some other world? |
| 09:29 |
OldCoder |
Let's see if it's global. |
| 09:30 |
kaeza |
I don't have interact on any other |
| 09:30 |
OldCoder |
? So |
| 09:30 |
kaeza |
o wait |
| 09:30 |
OldCoder |
Go and you'll get it |
| 09:30 |
kaeza |
I'll test it on 30010 |
| 09:30 |
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| 09:31 |
kaeza |
note that this is only for newly placed chests |
| 09:31 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Any chance it started earlier? |
| 09:31 |
kaeza |
no idea |
| 09:31 |
kaeza |
I haven't been placing new locked chests |
| 09:31 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, see the news at http://minetest.org/ |
| 09:31 |
moltenbot |
OldCoder's link: OldCoder Minetest Site |
| 09:31 |
OldCoder |
Tell me which of those changes it might be |
| 09:32 |
kaeza |
I think PilzAdam was working on a patch to minetest_game that only allows the chest owner to see it's contents |
| 09:32 |
kaeza |
maybe that's it |
| 09:33 |
kaeza |
maybe it's bugged |
| 09:34 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: ^ |
| 09:38 |
OldCoder |
|
| 09:38 |
OldCoder |
Well, how do I remove this patch? |
| 09:39 |
kaeza |
revert minetest_game |
| 09:39 |
kaeza |
I will get you a link to the commit |
| 09:41 |
kaeza |
IDK how to do it |
| 09:41 |
kaeza |
I'm new to git |
| 09:43 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/a0ba7cf97302eab03f331a4cd81b02aa2cecc05d |
| 09:43 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Show the contents of the locked chest only to the owner ? a0ba7cf ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 09:44 |
mauvebic |
either right click or minetest.show_formspec causing the problem |
| 09:45 |
mauvebic |
just the chest portion that dont show or the whole formspec? |
| 09:46 |
kaeza |
found it |
| 09:46 |
kaeza |
It seems the "owner" meta is not being set |
| 09:47 |
mauvebic |
usually thats done with after_place_node(pos,placer) |
| 09:47 |
mauvebic |
it is being set |
| 09:47 |
mauvebic |
check line 1278 |
| 09:48 |
mauvebic |
i think it might this: "list[nodemeta:".. pos .. ";main;0,0;8,4;]".. |
| 09:49 |
mauvebic |
try "list[context;main;0,0;8,4;]" instead see what happens |
| 09:50 |
* VanessaE |
wanders back in |
| 09:50 |
VanessaE |
can't sleep :( |
| 09:50 |
kaeza |
hello V |
| 09:50 |
kaeza |
I'm more inclined for line 1341 |
| 09:50 |
kaeza |
that's where the error is |
| 09:50 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 09:51 |
mauvebic |
if has_locked_chest_privilege(meta, clicker) then ?? |
| 09:51 |
kaeza |
it's checking for the owner but the owner is not set anywhere |
| 09:51 |
kaeza |
unless i'm missing something |
| 09:51 |
mauvebic |
it is set |
| 09:51 |
kaeza |
where? |
| 09:51 |
mauvebic |
1278 |
| 09:51 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, your git reset command is wrong but I got it to work... |
| 09:52 |
OldCoder |
Remind me another time and I'll provide the correct one |
| 09:52 |
OldCoder |
mauvebic, kaeza let me know if there's a chest path |
| 09:52 |
OldCoder |
mauvebic, kaeza let me know if there's a chest patch * |
| 09:52 |
mauvebic |
ive set meta inventories for nodes, theyre not usually indexed with positions, thats for detached nodes |
| 09:53 |
mauvebic |
*detached invs |
| 09:53 |
mauvebic |
tired lol |
| 09:54 |
mauvebic |
look at how the list is defined for regular chests |
| 09:54 |
mauvebic |
its not "list[nodemeta:".. pos .. ";main;0,0;8,4;]" |
| 09:55 |
mauvebic |
ah wait |
| 09:55 |
kaeza |
? |
| 09:55 |
mauvebic |
perhaps right click formspec dont relate to the node the same way |
| 09:56 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 09:56 |
mauvebic |
but what happens when you click? nothing, empty formspec, missing parts of formspec? |
| 09:56 |
kaeza |
just no formspec |
| 09:56 |
kaeza |
nothing at all |
| 09:57 |
kaeza |
only on *newly* placed chests |
| 09:57 |
kaeza |
old chests work ok |
| 09:57 |
mauvebic |
then its either rightclick that doesnt work or its minetest.show_formspec |
| 09:58 |
mauvebic |
if right click works for other mods then you have your culprit |
| 09:58 |
mauvebic |
and maybe minetest.show_formspec is very recent addition, ? if you dont have latest |
| 09:59 |
mauvebic |
well yeah old chests will work so long as the formspec isn't updated |
| 09:59 |
kaeza |
I'll repull minetest_game and test |
| 09:59 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: sorry :-/ |
| 09:59 |
mauvebic |
i meant latest version of game/engine |
| 09:59 |
kaeza |
I have latest engine |
| 09:59 |
kaeza |
freshly pulled a few mins ago |
| 10:00 |
mauvebic |
so when was minetest.show_formspec added? |
| 10:00 |
kaeza |
dunno |
| 10:00 |
kaeza |
it's been a while since I last played |
| 10:00 |
kaeza |
(*actually* played the game) |
| 10:01 |
mauvebic |
it usually takes me awhile before i update too (arch habits) |
| 10:03 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/da9707950e0f69d8a906572fc55f516277e057c4 |
| 10:03 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Add TOCLIENT_SHOW_FORMSPEC to display formspecs at client from lua ? da97079 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 10:03 |
kaeza |
Jan 02, 2013 |
| 10:03 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, No need for sorry! I thought you'd like having the fix |
| 10:04 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: are you using latest engine? |
| 10:05 |
mauvebic |
5 days old, yeah give it some time lol |
| 10:05 |
mauvebic |
tell someone, but be patient lol |
| 10:06 |
kaeza |
perhaps OC is using latest mt_game but not mt |
| 10:06 |
kaeza |
so it does not know about TOCLIENT_SHOW_FORMSPEC |
| 10:08 |
mauvebic |
could be |
| 10:08 |
mauvebic |
you saying it works on your local but not his server? |
| 10:09 |
kaeza |
i'm now trying local |
| 10:09 |
kaeza |
my internet is slow |
| 10:10 |
mauvebic |
my internet is fast but im slow, going on 6am lol |
| 10:11 |
kaeza |
works ok on local |
| 10:12 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Explain what you mean |
| 10:13 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: did you update to latest git of the engine? |
| 10:13 |
kaeza |
(minetest) |
| 10:13 |
OldCoder |
I am reviewing |
| 10:13 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, They do not have LevelDB |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
Therefore I can't use latest |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
I can do so |
| 10:14 |
kaeza |
wait |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
But I must merge upstream changes |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
Into my new codebase |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
I can downgrade the _game until there is time to do this |
| 10:15 |
kaeza |
you can fork minetest_game and simply revert PilzAdam's changes |
| 10:15 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Very well! |
| 10:15 |
OldCoder |
Can you provide a patch? |
| 10:15 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 10:15 |
kaeza |
gimme a few mins |
| 10:15 |
OldCoder |
Are they all in one commit? |
| 10:15 |
OldCoder |
If so this may be easy |
| 10:16 |
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| 10:21 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: git revert a0ba7cf97302eab03f331a4cd81b02aa2cecc05d |
| 10:22 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, I will attempt this now |
| 10:24 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, shutting down worlds. This will take a few minutes |
| 10:25 |
* VanessaE |
pokes Taoki |
| 10:25 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: k |
| 10:25 |
Taoki |
hi |
| 10:25 |
kaeza |
hi |
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| 10:37 |
kaeza |
back |
| 10:37 |
VanessaE |
wb |
| 10:37 |
kaeza |
thx :) |
| 10:37 |
kaeza |
guess what happened... :( |
| 10:38 |
kaeza |
I'm seriously going to kill it |
| 10:38 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Can you retest? |
| 10:38 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: k |
| 10:38 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 10:39 |
kaeza |
yw |
| 10:40 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: It's working ok now |
| 10:40 |
kaeza |
\o/ |
| 10:40 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, tyvm! |
| 10:40 |
* OldCoder |
is delighted |
| 10:41 |
* OldCoder |
is tired but dances the Happy Kitten dance |
| 10:41 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 10:41 |
OldCoder |
I will preserve the patch |
| 10:41 |
* kaeza |
joins OC in his dance |
| 10:41 |
kaeza |
k |
| 10:41 |
OldCoder |
Indeed! |
| 10:41 |
OldCoder |
Test and be amazed at the wonders of the improved worlds |
| 10:41 |
OldCoder |
! |
| 10:42 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, that includes you |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
... |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
me? |
| 10:42 |
OldCoder |
Try your world |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
what did you Do |
| 10:42 |
kaeza |
I'm gonna get some asphalt and start building my city :D |
| 10:42 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, I am really tired |
| 10:42 |
OldCoder |
Just go play |
| 10:42 |
OldCoder |
Build roads |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
YAY ok |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
ive been wanting to hear that for some thime... |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
time |
| 10:43 |
OldCoder |
Thyme |
| 10:43 |
OldCoder |
You timed out |
| 10:43 |
OldCoder |
Try again |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
yep |
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| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
timed out? |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
takes a while to get to the media screen |
| 10:43 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 10:44 |
OldCoder |
Remember that this world includes YOUR patches |
| 10:44 |
markveidemanis |
yep |
| 10:44 |
markveidemanis |
i have a couple more mods for you to add later |
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| 10:57 |
Calinou |
what is the anisotropic filtering quality in minetest? (with the checkbox) |
| 10:58 |
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| 10:58 |
VanessaE |
works fairly well for me, except on transparent objects e.g. glass or papyrus, probably because of the default scaling type |
| 11:01 |
klunk |
Hello. And is there a way to produce help pop-up ("bulles d'aide" fr ) inside this tab (settings) with lua files, meanning they will be able for all operating systems ? |
| 11:04 |
klunk |
(I noticed too than validate mapping keyboard save settings chekboxes too, otherwise I must put them everytime ) |
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| 11:09 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 11:09 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: quality as in, 2×, 4×, 8× or 16×? |
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| 11:10 |
Calinou |
defaultsettings.cpp only has true/false setting |
| 11:10 |
Obiewan1111 |
Hey everyone! :) |
| 11:11 |
markveidemanis |
hellooo |
| 11:13 |
Obiewan1111 |
How's it going? |
| 11:23 |
Calinou |
fine |
| 11:24 |
* klunk |
understood bubbles must be driven by OS, and thanks Calinou |
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Calinou |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3o3NA/Capture%20d%27%C3%A9cran%20-%2007012013%20-%2012:23:21.png <= how I feel today |
| 11:25 |
Calinou |
klunk: no, the tooltips can be generated by minetest (like nodes/items in inventory) |
| 11:25 |
Calinou |
requires C++ though :P |
| 11:26 |
klunk |
Calinou: ouch (feelings nooooo too, but for that !) |
| 11:26 |
klunk |
off topic help to keep other threads "clean" no ? |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
lol, I got an antispam question when posting in offtopic |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
there are no moderators for offtopic :P |
| 11:27 |
Obiewan1111 |
Calinou: You don't want an Offtopic section? |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
klunk: not really, but this is the minetest forums, that's why |
| 11:28 |
Calinou |
not a fond of OT sections, it makes the whole thing feel less professional |
| 11:28 |
Calinou |
if people use them properly it can be good |
| 11:28 |
Calinou |
but I bet this will turn into memes and bronies :-D |
| 11:30 |
klunk |
Calinou: I agree it makes the whole thing feel less professional |
| 11:31 |
klunk |
but searching a stuff in forum and having to deal with ... postssss heum... not really usefull is (I hope was) a pain too |
| 11:32 |
Obiewan1111 |
Well, it brings the community closer. |
| 11:32 |
Calinou |
'lunch, bye |
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markveidemanis |
who has a minetest server |
| 11:43 |
markveidemanis |
go to #mt-servers |
| 11:53 |
markveidemanis |
Any of you know *zourent* or *Zourent* ? |
| 11:56 |
markveidemanis |
Hi all, sadly the GameBoom website was hacked through (apparently) a Drupal bug. Hackers modified files and installed scripts, and doing so damaged a lot. I'm working hard to get the site back online but that means forcing unplanned upgrades and changes, so it will take some weeks. Please join me in #GameBoom at FreeNode IRC for updates. ghostshell |
| 12:19 |
markveidemanis |
HI |
| 12:19 |
markveidemanis |
what can i use .set for |
| 12:19 |
markveidemanis |
/set |
| 12:20 |
kaeza |
/set creative_mode 1 |
| 12:20 |
kaeza |
/set creative_mode 0 |
| 12:20 |
kaeza |
/set time_speed 72 |
| 12:20 |
kaeza |
... |
| 12:21 |
kaeza |
markveidemanis: ^ |
| 12:21 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 12:22 |
kaeza |
if you "/set time_speed 0" then time is frozen |
| 12:22 |
kaeza |
72 is normal |
| 12:22 |
kaeza |
>72 is faster <72 is slower |
| 12:22 |
markveidemanis |
any more settings |
| 12:23 |
markveidemanis |
and how do i make night Darker? |
| 12:23 |
kaeza |
dunno |
| 12:26 |
markveidemanis |
wheres the end of mapgen |
| 12:38 |
markveidemanis |
hi sfan |
| 12:43 |
kaeza |
(10:22:59) markveidemanis: wheres the end of mapgen <--- ? |
| 12:43 |
markveidemanis |
end of the map |
| 12:43 |
kaeza |
~30900 |
| 12:43 |
kaeza |
in any dir |
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markveidemanis |
thats too small |
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OldCoder |
technic/item_pickup.lua:9: attempt to index local 'inv' (a nil value) |
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OldCoder |
Can anybody suggest a fix for this? |
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* NekoGloop |
pokes kaeza with an alatro ingot |
| 12:56 |
markveidemanis |
i need to find an ENOURMOUS cave any ideas...HOW? |
| 12:58 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62509#p62509 |
| 12:59 |
kaeza |
hey Neko |
| 12:59 |
markveidemanis |
Modding is like wielding a heavy sword; do it long enough and you will get the hang of it. |
| 13:00 |
NekoGloop |
yes yes that's my sig. |
| 13:00 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: +1 |
| 13:00 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel should as well. |
| 13:03 |
* kaeza |
pokes NekoGloop with a random link https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ViolentCity.rar |
| 13:03 |
kaeza |
whoops |
| 13:03 |
kaeza |
wrong link |
| 13:03 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/vc.zip |
| 13:03 |
kaeza |
there |
| 13:04 |
NekoGloop |
cant, ipad doesnt care about that ;) |
| 13:04 |
kaeza |
k :/ |
| 13:05 |
markveidemanis |
Share your maps now! |
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| 13:09 |
Jordach |
hey all |
| 13:10 |
markveidemanis |
HELLO! |
| 13:10 |
markveidemanis |
INEED A LAVA_LAKE |
| 13:11 |
markveidemanis |
i have created 2 minetest-related channels |
| 13:11 |
markveidemanis |
minetest maps and minetest servers |
| 13:11 |
kaeza |
hey Jordach |
| 13:11 |
markveidemanis |
also, a general channel |
| 13:12 |
Jordach |
hello |
| 13:12 |
kaeza |
</spam> |
| 13:12 |
markveidemanis |
#mt-maps #mt-servers #mtmt #mtmarktwain |
| 13:12 |
kaeza |
</spam> |
| 13:12 |
markveidemanis |
<spam/> |
| 13:12 |
markveidemanis |
il go now |
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kaeza |
hehe |
| 13:17 |
Jordach |
should we just ban markv? |
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| 13:17 |
kaeza |
nah |
| 13:17 |
Jordach |
(alright, yes, thats a little harsh, but sure; the annoyance is overwhelming) |
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markveidemanis |
TEST! |
| 13:18 |
markveidemanis |
Good |
| 13:18 |
kaeza |
... |
| 13:18 |
markveidemanis |
3...2...1 |
| 13:18 |
kaeza |
Jordach: forget what I said |
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* NekoGloop |
punts markveidemanis |
| 13:18 |
Jordach |
and the first person to the ignore list is..... |
| 13:18 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Meow. |
| 13:19 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, working on the 32x pack as we speak |
| 13:19 |
NekoGloop |
Awesome :3 |
| 13:19 |
Jordach |
buckets look sharp as a steel sword now! |
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| 13:26 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 13:26 |
NekoGloop |
You do know that not only are they resized they should be upgraded in appearance as well? |
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markveidemanis |
anyone want to talk about maps or servers |
| 13:28 |
markveidemanis |
or both? |
| 13:28 |
markveidemanis |
or neither? |
| 13:29 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, thats what im doing duh |
| 13:29 |
NekoGloop |
I'll go for neither |
| 13:29 |
markveidemanis |
then... |
| 13:29 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: :P :D |
| 13:29 |
markveidemanis |
i need to make #mt-unrelated |
| 13:29 |
* Jordach |
isnt stupid you know |
| 13:30 |
* NekoGloop |
thinks you are but that's beside the point |
| 13:30 |
markveidemanis |
why the * |
| 13:30 |
* markveidemanis |
|
| 13:30 |
* markveidemanis |
* |
| 13:30 |
markveidemanis |
why the stars |
| 13:31 |
markveidemanis |
who is in a good mood |
| 13:31 |
NekoGloop |
everyone but you |
| 13:32 |
markveidemanis |
WHY?! |
| 13:32 |
* Jordach |
hands NekoGloop some catnip |
| 13:32 |
* NekoGloop |
nomnomnomnom |
| 13:34 |
Jordach |
thing is, i like to help people that either help me or need some info cleared up |
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markveidemanis_ |
HI! |
| 13:36 |
markveidemanis_ |
how do i mke ** disconnect from IRC? |
| 13:37 |
markveidemanis_ |
AHA! |
| 13:42 |
NekoGloop |
*insert smartass comment here pointed at markveidemanis* |
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| 13:55 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
aw man |
| 13:55 |
kaeza |
hey |
| 13:55 |
Leuthihi |
Hello |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
nekogloops gone# |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/vRisR.png thats my 32px renders of the default textures |
| 13:55 |
kaeza |
Jordach: +1000 |
| 13:55 |
* Jordach |
is doing a Minetest faithful 32x pack |
| 13:56 |
Leuthihi |
Is there a way to make mesecons work from farther away? As soon as there's no player near to it it simply stops working. |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
Leuthihi, nope.avi |
| 13:56 |
Leuthihi |
Jordach: why.jpg |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
because minetests_codebase.mp3 |
| 13:57 |
kaeza |
cause_of_bugs_in_minetest.xcf |
| 13:57 |
PilzAdam |
Leuthihi, there is |
| 13:57 |
Leuthihi |
So it's not limited in mesecons to improve performance? |
| 13:57 |
PilzAdam |
see active block radius in minetest.conf |
| 13:57 |
Leuthihi |
PilzAdam: thanks. |
| 13:57 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam: ? |
| 13:57 |
kaeza |
is that new? |
| 13:57 |
PilzAdam |
no, not really |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
its been here since 0.3.x apparently |
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* kaeza |
needs to read the documentation more |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, the latest minetest_game under 0.4.4-win32 does not have infinite stacks |
| 14:02 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, do you have it self compilet |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
win32 |
| 14:02 |
PilzAdam |
*compiled |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
you clearly missed that |
| 14:03 |
* Jordach |
is using the stable until update is mandatory |
| 14:03 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all |
| 14:03 |
kaeza |
hey |
| 14:04 |
Jordach |
hey RealBadAngel |
| 14:04 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: explain https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/issues/107 |
| 14:04 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Add xPanes and xFences mod to the default game ? Issue #107 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 14:04 |
RealBadAngel |
for those who havent seen the jungle early mornin today: |
| 14:04 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/the_jungle.png |
| 14:05 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 14:05 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, minetest_game shouldnt define new drawtypes |
| 14:05 |
kaeza |
RealBadAngel: is that in minetest_game? |
| 14:05 |
PilzAdam |
they should be done in the engine |
| 14:05 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: those are nodeboxes |
| 14:05 |
thexyz |
problems with that? |
| 14:05 |
RealBadAngel |
not yet, but we r pretty close to that point :) |
| 14:05 |
PilzAdam |
they are something like a new drawtype |
| 14:05 |
kaeza |
cool |
| 14:05 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: so what? |
| 14:05 |
kaeza |
I miss jungles from 0.3.x |
| 14:06 |
thexyz |
weren't nodeboxes made for that? |
| 14:06 |
thexyz |
like, defining new drawtypes without hacking the engine |
| 14:06 |
PilzAdam |
nodeboxes are static (for stairs etc.) |
| 14:06 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/jungle7.png |
| 14:07 |
PilzAdam |
but these panes define a new drawtype (I would call it "panelike" or something like this) |
| 14:07 |
Jordach |
...and? |
| 14:07 |
Jordach |
who gives a shit. |
| 14:07 |
PilzAdam |
and drawtypes are handled by the engine, not by mods |
| 14:08 |
thexyz |
I disagree |
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| 14:09 |
thexyz |
you mean, we should have meseconlike, xfencelike, panelike, etc.. drawtypes, right? |
| 14:09 |
thexyz |
instead of using nodeboxes |
| 14:09 |
thexyz |
pipelike too |
| 14:09 |
PilzAdam |
nodeboxes are an own drawtype and they are static |
| 14:09 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: where's that specified? |
| 14:09 |
thexyz |
that nodeboxes have to be static |
| 14:09 |
PilzAdam |
you cant change them at runtime |
| 14:10 |
thexyz |
ok |
| 14:10 |
thexyz |
so, we change nodes, not nodeboxes |
| 14:10 |
PilzAdam |
yea, and thats not the prefered way |
| 14:10 |
thexyz |
there's no other way ATM |
| 14:10 |
Jordach |
thexyz is correct, xpanes/fences changetheir nodes |
| 14:10 |
thexyz |
and there probably never will |
| 14:11 |
thexyz |
because otherwise we'd need shitton of drawtypes |
| 14:11 |
PilzAdam |
for xpanes we could patch the existing "fencelike" drawtype and a new "panelike" drawtype can be created too |
| 14:11 |
PilzAdam |
*xfences |
| 14:11 |
thexyz |
how about KISS principle? |
| 14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
if c55 will finish node_with_meta, there will be possibility to change nodeboxes |
| 14:11 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: that's bad idea |
| 14:12 |
thexyz |
(for panes) |
| 14:12 |
thexyz |
(or xfences) |
| 14:12 |
RealBadAngel |
but for many other stuff its a must have |
| 14:12 |
thexyz |
probably |
| 14:12 |
Jordach |
cant we just have "nboxdtype" |
| 14:12 |
Jordach |
which is a mod that provide panes, fences etc |
| 14:13 |
PilzAdam |
also the engine handles drawtypes much faster than Lua with changing nodes |
| 14:13 |
Jordach |
bull. |
| 14:13 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: so, you prefer to hack into engine and add things that would be used 1-2 times instead of doing the same using existing methods |
| 14:13 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, what about merging my treegen changes |
| 14:13 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: will test & merge today |
| 14:13 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, how often is "fencelike" used in minetest_game? |
| 14:14 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz: thx |
| 14:14 |
PilzAdam |
only once, but mods can use it too |
| 14:14 |
PilzAdam |
same with new drawtypes |
| 14:15 |
RealBadAngel |
i request for one more drawtype |
| 14:15 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I don't think someone will ever use that panelike |
| 14:15 |
RealBadAngel |
same as water, to get the semi transparent nodes |
| 14:15 |
RealBadAngel |
like ice for example |
| 14:15 |
PilzAdam |
I dont thing somone will use "allfaces_optional" |
| 14:15 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: xfences were made because of that |
| 14:16 |
PilzAdam |
its only use is for leaves |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
to drop fencelike |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: that one is more generic |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
and is not documented at all |
| 14:16 |
PilzAdam |
it would be better to patch the existing fencelike instead of doing it (in a hacky way) in Lua |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
are we talking about panes? |
| 14:17 |
PilzAdam |
<thexyz> and is not documented at all <- https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L296 |
| 14:17 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 14:17 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, I am talking about xfences |
| 14:17 |
Jordach |
32x chests! |
| 14:17 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/DNmez |
| 14:17 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur |
| 14:17 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: well, if you call this "documented"... |
| 14:18 |
thexyz |
Jordach: how about doublechests (like in MC)? |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
theyre nodebox like based |
| 14:18 |
thexyz |
those should be relatively easy to implement (using 2 nodes) |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
(in fact they are ENTITIES to LWJGL) |
| 14:18 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, maybe ask other people what they think: Create a real drawtype in the engine or a hacky one in Lua |
| 14:18 |
RealBadAngel |
heheh, indeed, there are signs that it exists, so documented ;) |
| 14:18 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I agree with xfences part |
| 14:18 |
thexyz |
now about panes |
| 14:19 |
Jordach |
having a function to make your own nodes would be nice |
| 14:19 |
Jordach |
(in the panes fashion) |
| 14:19 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, panelike drawtype can be used for glasspanes, ironpanes... |
| 14:20 |
PilzAdam |
and doing it in the engine is not hacky like doing it in Lua |
| 14:20 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: ok, two things |
| 14:20 |
thexyz |
(like I said) |
| 14:20 |
thexyz |
"panes fashion", huh |
| 14:21 |
thexyz |
should you be able to define "pane" width? |
| 14:21 |
RealBadAngel |
"icelike" type :) ice, smoked glass etc :) |
| 14:21 |
thexyz |
how should everything be textured, etc, etc.. |
| 14:25 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, btw: what about this? https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/20879b85ff502177034458dd6d00641076c75ea3 |
| 14:25 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Disable all HP handling if enable_damage is false ? 20879b8 ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub |
| 14:26 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: RealBadAngel (RealBadAngel) commited to celeron55/minetest: L-Systems treegen update. 8b75736c6f 2013-01-07T06:13:14-08:00 |
| 14:26 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: dunno, better discuss with c55 |
| 14:27 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz: since im done with treegen, i will try to fix meshes buffer problem |
| 14:28 |
RealBadAngel |
caves can wait, this is real bug |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, it will save you a lot of time if you learn to use git's CLI and usage of branches |
| 14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
im treating git as the interface only anyway |
| 14:30 |
kaeza |
mt two cents http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62528#p62528 |
| 14:30 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Shader Mod for Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 14:30 |
kaeza |
my* |
| 14:30 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, +1 |
| 14:33 |
kaeza |
that guy is getting of my nerves |
| 14:33 |
kaeza |
GAWD! |
| 14:33 |
kaeza |
thx |
| 14:34 |
Jordach |
hmm, should i create a 64x minetest pack by using this algorithm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hqx |
| 14:34 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: hqx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 14:34 |
thexyz |
can't we just ban all members who participated in such a discussion for a day or so? |
| 14:35 |
PilzAdam |
no, dont ban me! |
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| 14:36 |
Jordach |
does anyone like my 32x cobble? |
| 14:36 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/F5XLu.png |
| 14:36 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, nice, keep it up |
| 14:36 |
Jordach |
at first they look like a photo, dont they |
| 14:37 |
Jordach |
but thats pure pixel art + blur + rgb noise |
| 14:37 |
* Jordach |
will ignore desert sand / stone until sand / stone are done |
| 14:37 |
Jordach |
(colourise in gimp ftw) |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
its nice, but can anybody explain me why all are tryin to show cobblestone as bricks? :) |
| 14:38 |
thexyz |
ok, done |
| 14:39 |
Jordach |
dunno |
| 14:39 |
Jordach |
not even VanessaE over there can draw like that |
| 14:39 |
markveidemanis |
I LOVE the cobbel |
| 14:39 |
kaeza |
who? |
| 14:40 |
RealBadAngel |
there is of course regular cobblestone, but most are not regular shapes |
| 14:40 |
kaeza |
whoops |
| 14:40 |
kaeza |
wrong channel |
| 14:40 |
markveidemanis |
AHHA |
| 14:40 |
* Jordach |
laughs |
| 14:41 |
RealBadAngel |
we could have stone bricks (regular) and cobble like this for example: http://www.droidforums.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/cobblestone.png |
| 14:43 |
RealBadAngel |
irregular shape from crushing stone, and regular from crafting using smooth stone |
| 14:44 |
markveidemanis |
who wants to talk about <textures/servers/maps>? |
| 14:45 |
markveidemanis |
Textures #mt-textures maps #mt-maps servers #mt-servers |
| 14:46 |
markveidemanis |
Umm join plz... |
| 14:47 |
thexyz |
should I /join #freenode and tell them that you're abusing the network? |
| 14:48 |
markveidemanis |
i will |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
| 14:49 |
kaeza |
hey rubenwardy |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
hey rubenwardy |
| 14:50 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
| 14:51 |
markveidemanis |
hi kaeza |
| 14:51 |
kaeza |
hi again markv |
| 14:53 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62510#p62510 |
| 14:53 |
rubenwardy |
is he saying C++ is an inferior language, or that it is close to machine code? |
| 14:53 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Gui Pictures for Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 14:54 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: that post is wrong. C++ is not low level |
| 14:55 |
kaeza |
but yes, C++ patches are cumbersome |
| 14:55 |
kaeza |
(for the average joe minetest user) |
| 14:56 |
rubenwardy |
I would guess that by low level he means close to machine code |
| 14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
low level is the machine code |
| 14:57 |
rubenwardy |
strings are annoying in c++, you have to do std::----("",string) |
| 14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
assembler. its symbolic language. after it there are only 1 and 0's |
| 14:58 |
kaeza |
strcat(s, "abc") FTW!! |
| 14:58 |
rubenwardy |
thats it |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
new grass get! http://i.imgur.com/VozeD.png |
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rubenwardy |
my memory fails me in c++ std namespace. The only ones I use regularly is std::cout and std::cmp |
| 14:59 |
kaeza |
Jordach: just one suggestion: can you make them more tileable? |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
kaeza, i hate tiling |
| 14:59 |
kaeza |
k |
| 14:59 |
RealBadAngel |
textures have to be seamless |
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Jordach |
again 32x hand drawn scaled versions are hard |
| 15:00 |
RealBadAngel |
jordach can i have the texture? |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, why |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
kaeza, http://i.imgur.com/MP9CF.png |
| 15:00 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/57083bf971b2963b8cc433723c4117f243b45101 |
| 15:00 |
RealBadAngel |
i will show you somethin |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
fix |
| 15:00 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Connect fencelike drawtype to every walkable node ? 57083bf ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub |
| 15:01 |
kaeza |
Jordach: +100 |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
lol, pilzadam: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=61401#p61401 |
| 15:01 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: [Forum Feature Request] Offtopic Section! (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
does the actual dirt look like cisouns dirt |
| 15:02 |
kaeza |
dunno, haven't seen cisoun's pack |
| 15:02 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, :D |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
off topic is completely un moderated |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
trolling time. |
| 15:02 |
* Jordach |
cracks knuckles |
| 15:03 |
* VanessaE |
wanders in. |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
*snif* hi all *cough* |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, seen my monster 32x textures? |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I saw the screenshots, not bad. |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
better than yours |
| 15:04 |
PilzAdam |
hey VanessaE |
| 15:04 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: const f32 bar_len=(f32)((BS/2)-post_rad); |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 15:04 |
thexyz |
why did you change that? |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
hey |
| 15:04 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, noticed that too |
| 15:04 |
PilzAdam |
will fix it |
| 15:04 |
* rubenwardy |
is making a new Irrlicht map editor |
| 15:04 |
kaeza |
(I think the description of this forum section should be: "life, the universe and everything") <-- LOL |
| 15:04 |
rubenwardy |
cause the existing ones are shite |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
thanks |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/108 |
| 15:05 |
kaeza |
o hai V |
| 15:05 |
PilzAdam |
yes, I saw this VanessaE |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
hi kaeza |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok |
| 15:05 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, fixed |
| 15:08 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, also removed the useless ContentFeatures *f2 |
| 15:09 |
markveidemanis |
Hmmmm... BlockPlanet |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
dead. |
| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
since they wanted to rewrite the whole thing in Java |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 15:12 |
markveidemanis |
i gonna try it... |
| 15:12 |
markveidemanis |
i think it look nice |
| 15:12 |
markveidemanis |
:P |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
pkgdesc="An Infiniminer/Minecraft inspired minetest fork with more features than minetest." |
| 15:13 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: and then in webgl |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
PKGBUILD |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
WTF |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
do i do with that |
| 15:13 |
thexyz |
you makepkg it |
| 15:13 |
thexyz |
(when on arch) |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
"https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest.git" |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
im not on arch |
| 15:14 |
thexyz |
then you don't need it |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
^ seems to work |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
i do! |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
there has never been a fork of minetest |
| 15:14 |
thexyz |
yeah, sure... |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, so, what about the fencelike patch? |
| 15:17 |
thexyz |
well, push it if it works |
| 15:17 |
VanessaE |
nooooooooooo |
| 15:17 |
thexyz |
(I didn't test it though) |
| 15:17 |
VanessaE |
Leave fencelike alone. |
| 15:17 |
VanessaE |
Sometimes you *don't* want fences to connect to nearby objects |
| 15:18 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, why? |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE |
in fact a lot of the time (no offense thexyz) it looks like shit |
| 15:18 |
thexyz |
ok, then don't |
| 15:19 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: fences should not, for example, attach to anything bearing a partly-transparent texture, such as glass or leaves, or to anything that's nodebox-based eg. stairs |
| 15:19 |
VanessaE |
and if they connect to nearby objects, it's impossible to create nice vertical posts next to buildings et.al |
| 15:19 |
VanessaE |
(think lampposts) |
| 15:20 |
markveidemanis |
https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest |
| 15:20 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: jordan4ibanez/minetest ? GitHub |
| 15:20 |
markveidemanis |
help |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, there are also many uses for them if they do connect to nodes nearby (see some MC vids) |
| 15:23 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: which is why they should remain a separate mod or a separate draw type at least. |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
and it also gets rid of the little gap between walls and fences |
| 15:23 |
VanessaE |
fencelike_connects maybe. |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
but please do *not* rewrite the default fencelike draw type to connect to neighbors. |
| 15:24 |
markveidemanis |
compiling jordan4ibanez minetest.... |
| 15:24 |
PilzAdam |
if you want to create lampposts you can create new nodes with nodeboxes for that, you dont need to take fences |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: no, just no. |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
bad idea. |
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AlphabetDenied |
hi |
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webdesigner97 |
hi :) |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 15:25 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 15:25 |
AlphabetDenied |
hey, is there any MySQL or PhP "geeks" here? |
| 15:25 |
AlphabetDenied |
i need some help |
| 15:26 |
webdesigner97 |
me |
| 15:26 |
thexyz |
then join #mysql or #php |
| 15:26 |
AlphabetDenied |
really? |
| 15:26 |
AlphabetDenied |
ok :D |
| 15:26 |
AlphabetDenied |
wait a sec |
| 15:26 |
thexyz |
this is #minetest |
| 15:26 |
markveidemanis |
you can join #mtmt to discuss:D |
| 15:26 |
AlphabetDenied |
ok, well i made a MySQL database and a MyPhPAdmin form/thingy |
| 15:26 |
AlphabetDenied |
oh ok makr |
| 15:26 |
AlphabetDenied |
mark* |
| 15:26 |
markveidemanis |
k |
| 15:27 |
AlphabetDenied |
webdesigner97 /join #mtmt |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, that will piss a LOT OF people off and you will get burned like a witch with fire:basic_fame |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
s/fame/flame |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: +1 :-) |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
AlphabetDenied == marv |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
markv |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
** |
| 15:28 |
markveidemanis |
no |
| 15:28 |
AlphabetDenied |
what??? |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: really though, there's WAY too much legacy to go rewriting the fencelike draw type. Either leave that to the modders or make a separate draw type. |
| 15:28 |
AlphabetDenied |
no im NOT!!! |
| 15:28 |
AlphabetDenied |
:D |
| 15:28 |
markveidemanis |
Exactly, He's not |
| 15:29 |
AlphabetDenied |
im Ragnar :D |
| 15:29 |
markveidemanis |
Lol |
| 15:29 |
AlphabetDenied |
no really |
| 15:29 |
AlphabetDenied |
i need help, so i ask here |
| 15:29 |
kaeza |
hmm... I need an opinion on this... is it faster to call `minetest.after' and let the engine handle the timeout for you, or write an on_globalstep callback and keep track of time yourself? |
| 15:29 |
kaeza |
also, any sideeffects like lack of timer precision? |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: probably the former, otherwise you have to manage it in Lua which is guaranteed to be slower. |
| 15:30 |
kaeza |
(in minetest.after) |
| 15:30 |
kaeza |
hmm |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
| 15:31 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you are talking about "legacy" in a game that is in 0.4? |
| 15:31 |
kaeza |
thx V |
| 15:31 |
PilzAdam |
if you argue like this we can just stop develop minetest |
| 15:31 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: s/in a game that is in 0.4/in a game that's been around for 2 years and has lots of maps, servers, mods, .../ |
| 15:31 |
markveidemanis |
textures, servers, maps |
| 15:31 |
markveidemanis |
#mt- |
| 15:32 |
kaeza |
stahp |
| 15:33 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, if we dont change existing stuff we never can improve the game in some points |
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| 15:33 |
Jordach |
...and? |
| 15:33 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: in other words, you're proposing changing something just for the sake of change, without any hint of backwards compatibility, whereas if you just added a separate draw type, modders could just shift over to that *over time* |
| 15:33 |
PilzAdam |
and also MC has done lots of things like this too and people are still playing it |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
want something new? code it and dont make it erronate |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
fuck MC. |
| 15:34 |
markveidemanis |
can someone make a modpack that adds all items from minecraft into minetest? |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
or at least dont change the legacy shit |
| 15:34 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, well, it is backwars compatible |
| 15:34 |
markveidemanis |
good timing right? |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: it is not backward compatible if it changes the way peoples structures are rendered. |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
drastically changes, I mena. |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
mean* |
| 15:35 |
FreeFull |
Are you talking about glass? |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
FreeFull: fences, the 'fencelike' draw type. |
| 15:35 |
FreeFull |
ah, what does PilzAdam want to change? |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
um, scroll back and read. |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, you just got in. |
| 15:36 |
Jordach |
new trees and leaves: http://imgur.com/a/tmk8m |
| 15:36 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur |
| 15:36 |
FreeFull |
VanessaE: I can't, I only joined the channel not too long ago =P |
| 15:36 |
thexyz |
then read logs |
| 15:36 |
FreeFull |
What logs |
| 15:36 |
thexyz |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
| 15:36 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: IRC logs - Index for #minetest |
| 15:36 |
PilzAdam |
these changes arent drastically |
| 15:36 |
Jordach |
beat me to it |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
he wants to make default fencelike draw type render all fences like thexyz's xfences mod does, which connects fences to neighboring objects |
| 15:37 |
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Topic for #minetest is now IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.ru/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
| 15:37 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: About - Minetest |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: it may not seem that way, but they are quite drastic. |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
oh moltenbot |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, seen my trees? |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: no? |
| 15:38 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, in fact they are only ~16 pixels more |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: in four directions. |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: try it some time. build a vertical post next to a building. Now replace all of it with xfences. the result will look horrible as every fence post segment connects to the building now. |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
this is a common use of wooden fences. |
| 15:39 |
PilzAdam |
fences arent posts |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
no but they are used as such and have been probably since the beginning. |
| 15:40 |
PilzAdam |
what about people who want to use the fences as real fences and there is always a little gap between the wall and the fence? |
| 15:40 |
kaeza |
Jordach: the grass looks too cartoonish at day |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
by now, those people have already installed xfences if that gap is a problem. |
| 15:41 |
Jordach |
cant help this with make seamless |
| 15:41 |
Jordach |
also: shaders |
| 15:41 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 15:41 |
kaeza |
nvm then |
| 15:41 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I am one of those people and dont have xfence installed, because the default game already has fences but they are only used for posts |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
why are we arguing? just make a new draw type and no one will complain. |
| 15:42 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, stop trying to suit your self |
| 15:42 |
kaeza |
Jordach: is it a requisite that they are based off default textures? |
| 15:42 |
PilzAdam |
so I would like to fix them to behave like real fences and offer the other people a mod for posts instead |
| 15:42 |
Jordach |
nekogloop challenged me to a faithful 32x |
| 15:42 |
kaeza |
k |
| 15:42 |
markveidemanis |
minetest minmal texture pack link plz |
| 15:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I have nothing against a new drawtype postlike |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
and fwiw, I already created dedicated posts in homedecor (just wrought iron for now). So it's not like I'm arguing to avoid a change I couldn't adapt to. |
| 15:43 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: BTW any chance to make a "locked fridge"? |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: possible, though I don't know how that's done. I'll look into it later. |
| 15:43 |
kaeza |
I can help with that |
| 15:43 |
* kaeza |
is taking a look at the code |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
I'll look at it later, kaeza, not feeling too well at the moment to do any coding. |
| 15:45 |
kaeza |
k |
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Jordach |
i've been steeling http://i.imgur.com/3kcDr.png |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
looking pretty decent |
| 15:48 |
kaeza |
bbl |
| 15:51 |
Jordach |
i've gone and "signed" my death warrant: http://i.imgur.com/FLLsP.png |
| 15:52 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: you should write "Sign!" on them like everyone else does ;) |
| 15:52 |
Jordach |
no |
| 15:53 |
Jordach |
this is just like this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/72747-faithful-32x32-pack-updatemore-mods-146/ |
| 15:53 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Faithful 32x32 Pack [UPDATE:MORE MODS!] (1.4.6) - Minecraft Forum |
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webdesigner97 |
are there minetest-server which support PHP? |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
nope.avi |
| 15:56 |
Yoowhi |
ЕÑÑ‚ÑŒ тут руÑÑкие? |
| 15:56 |
webdesigner97 |
was that an answert to my question or another? :D |
| 15:56 |
PilzAdam |
webdesigner97, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/protocol.txt#L47 |
| 15:56 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: minetest/doc/protocol.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 15:57 |
PilzAdam |
Yoowhi, this channel is in English |
| 15:57 |
Yoowhi |
okay, sorry |
| 15:57 |
webdesigner97 |
cause i thought about making a PHP-based server administration area based on php |
| 15:58 |
PilzAdam |
webdesigner97, sure, you can do that |
| 15:58 |
PilzAdam |
just implement the chat part of the minetest protocol |
| 15:59 |
webdesigner97 |
but it would require a server with php. i guess a server at home won't have it |
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PilzAdam |
also, if you are interested in the networking stuff: c55 said it would be nice if someone could export all the protocol stuff of minetest into an libary |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
actually |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 16:00 |
webdesigner97 |
well, I'm not good at networking. i'm just a 15 years old, german, hobby webdesigner |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
blockplanet succeeded in a slightly working php command and control center |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
(but it crashed minetestserver |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
) |
| 16:01 |
webdesigner97 |
hm |
| 16:01 |
webdesigner97 |
really? |
| 16:01 |
webdesigner97 |
that's bad |
| 16:01 |
thexyz |
Yoowhi: да |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, can you please kick yourself? |
| 16:02 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: sure I can |
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thexyz was kicked by thexyz: thexyz |
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* Jordach |
laughs |
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* Obiewan1111 |
Wonders why Jordach is laughing. |
| 16:06 |
PilzAdam |
read the logs |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
thexyz kicked himself |
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Obiewan1111 |
Oh. |
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sfan5 |
i got about 212 page views from minetest.net/downloads.php \o/ |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
yay :-) |
| 16:12 |
sfan5 |
and i discovered that chyper.at links to my site |
| 16:13 |
sfan5 |
Piwik is just useful |
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sfan5 |
but the most people only stay 0 - 10 seconds |
| 16:14 |
PilzAdam |
put a half naked women there and they will stay longer ;-) |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: i don't think the garman law allows that... |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
*german |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
sfan5, move to switzerland :D |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
lo law essentially |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
i skipped the "half" word |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
no* |
| 16:16 |
sfan5 |
:/ but i want to stay in germany ;) |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
sfan5, learn my sarcasm |
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rubenwardy |
how to move a camera forward in the direction of looking in irrlicht? |
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markveidemanis |
anyone have CSS |
| 16:34 |
markveidemanis |
Counter Strike Source |
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markveidemanis |
Hi Zeg9 |
| 16:34 |
markveidemanis |
too late |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, can you host a server with this for an hour or so? https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commits/enable_damage |
| 16:40 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Commit History ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub |
| 16:40 |
rubenwardy |
markveidemanis: yes |
| 16:41 |
markveidemanis |
hello |
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markveidemanis |
wine wont work on linux |
| 16:42 |
markveidemanis |
just installed it with wine... |
| 16:42 |
markveidemanis |
but takes too long to load |
| 16:44 |
rubenwardy |
I hate spam bots: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/punbb/viewforum.php?id=2 |
| 16:44 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: General Discussion (Page 1) -- Minetest Test Forum |
| 16:44 |
rubenwardy |
I do not want to buy viagra, thank you |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
...which never works... |
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rubenwardy |
personal experience, Jordach? |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
sarcasm |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
im busy making 32x textures and i hate it when a message pops up..habit forces me to read it |
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rubenwardy |
ik |
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Jordach |
ladders, doors, wood (testing), cacti, mese, glass: http://i.imgur.com/hlxPB.png oh and brick |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
also clay ceilinfg |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
ceiling |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
*** |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok, it's up. new world, damage disabled, creative mode. vanessae.mine.bz:30001 |
| 16:52 |
PilzAdam |
thx |
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markveidemanis |
help |
| 16:57 |
markveidemanis |
linux wine |
| 16:57 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, thank you, Im finished |
| 16:57 |
markveidemanis |
ans counter strike source |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 16:57 |
ruskie |
markveidemanis, wait for the linux version of it? |
| 16:57 |
markveidemanis |
No. |
| 16:57 |
markveidemanis |
i have the version for windows |
| 16:58 |
markveidemanis |
it installed perfectly |
| 16:58 |
markveidemanis |
but wont run |
| 16:58 |
ruskie |
checked the winedb? |
| 16:58 |
ruskie |
on winehq? |
| 16:58 |
markveidemanis |
winedb? |
| 16:59 |
ruskie |
http://appdb.winehq.org/ |
| 16:59 |
ruskie |
appdb |
| 16:59 |
moltenbot |
ruskie's link: WineHQ - Wine Application Database |
| 16:59 |
markveidemanis |
its there... |
| 16:59 |
ruskie |
well read it... |
| 17:00 |
ruskie |
it usually has instructions per app |
| 17:00 |
ruskie |
if there are any specifics that need to be done |
| 17:00 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: Nobody (sapier) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix buttons not working for Lua-triggered formspecs 0b1d09ff4f 2013-01-07T09:00:33-08:00 |
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Jordach |
hey Calinou |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
hey Calinou. |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i've been working on a minetest faithful |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
heh |
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Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/p1Keb |
| 17:05 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
nyan cats are now 32x |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
why |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
aye |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
i dont think you can unless the server is |
| 17:07 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, use torify client ? |
| 17:07 |
ruskie |
though if it's udp not sure how well that goes through tor |
| 17:09 |
ruskie |
but again not sure if udp goes over tor |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
last time i checked torrents are udp and they work over tor |
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* Jordach |
does not see why this should be a problem |
| 17:10 |
ruskie |
no they are tcp |
| 17:10 |
ruskie |
udp was for the trackers and even then most trackers have been switching to tcp |
| 17:10 |
ruskie |
though maybe the dht stuff is udp |
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Jordach |
find the change in this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/DpfEQ.png |
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ruskie |
compared to what? |
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rubenwardy |
2d clouds? |
| 17:12 |
klunk |
john_minetest: why don't put in rules than players must connect with a IP clear (and always the same ) ? |
| 17:12 |
Jordach |
something got changed to 32x |
| 17:12 |
rubenwardy |
hand |
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markveidemanis |
i have a problem with linux |
| 17:13 |
* Jordach |
high fives rubenwardy |
| 17:13 |
Jordach |
well done |
| 17:13 |
markveidemanis |
i installed linux and assigned X memory to it from my hard drive |
| 17:13 |
markveidemanis |
now i need more |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
markveidemanis: you mean, swap? |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
swap is very slow, it is only an emergency solution |
| 17:14 |
markveidemanis |
no |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
remove some software from autostart if your RAM is 100% used |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
and use a lighter desktop like LXDE |
| 17:14 |
ruskie |
markveidemanis, disk space? |
| 17:14 |
markveidemanis |
Yep |
| 17:15 |
ruskie |
so assign more and resize |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
i assigned not enough Disc space for my os |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
thats what im asking |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
idk how to |
| 17:15 |
klunk |
john_minetest: you right, but grieffers and cheaters are so time consuming ... |
| 17:15 |
ruskie |
there's a gparted livecd that is easy to use |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
cd? |
| 17:15 |
ruskie |
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php |
| 17:15 |
moltenbot |
ruskie's link: GParted -- Live CD/USB/PXE/HD |
| 17:15 |
klunk |
markveidemanis: yes live cd with Gparted (graphical) |
| 17:16 |
markveidemanis |
Hmmm... |
| 17:16 |
markveidemanis |
#lubuntu |
| 17:16 |
ruskie |
that's the easiest |
| 17:16 |
markveidemanis |
BTW, i have LXDE |
| 17:16 |
ruskie |
else you can use gparted on your system directly |
| 17:17 |
markveidemanis |
what i am tempted to do now: uninstall windows... |
| 17:17 |
markveidemanis |
but can i? |
| 17:17 |
markveidemanis |
to free up space |
| 17:17 |
klunk |
GParted will be used from live CD, your OS is not important |
| 17:17 |
ruskie |
remove the partition |
| 17:17 |
ruskie |
that's that |
| 17:17 |
ruskie |
or do you have data on there that you want to keep? |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
klunk: very few cheaters in minetest |
| 17:17 |
markveidemanis |
not rly... |
| 17:18 |
markveidemanis |
i just want more room |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
just delete your windows partition then resize your root linux partition ;) |
| 17:18 |
klunk |
Calinou: that's seems true, but they are some |
| 17:18 |
ruskie |
markveidemanis, so get that gparted livecd... boot with it and remove the windows partition then resize |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
resizing can cause loss of data, rarely |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
so be careful |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
backup your important stuff |
| 17:18 |
markveidemanis |
i have 149GB on my local disk, but Lubunto has no access to that :( |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
did you run gparted with gksudo? |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
knoppix is so 2006 |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
just use a *buntu live CD :P |
| 17:19 |
FreeFull |
Knoppix used to be good |
| 17:19 |
markveidemanis |
CD? i dont have a CD drive |
| 17:19 |
ecube |
cfdisk |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
FreeFull: notch approves |
| 17:19 |
FreeFull |
markveidemanis: live USB? |
| 17:19 |
ruskie |
markveidemanis, you can use usb |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
unetbootin.sf.net |
| 17:19 |
john_mt| |
markveidemanis: you can use a life USB |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
^ supports ubuntu-based distros very well, and works on any OS |
| 17:19 |
markveidemanis |
Hmmmm... |
| 17:19 |
ruskie |
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php |
| 17:19 |
moltenbot |
ruskie's link: GParted Live on USB |
| 17:19 |
ecube |
oh wat |
| 17:19 |
klunk |
[18:19] <FreeFull> markveidemanis: live USB? |
| 17:19 |
klunk |
[18:19] <ruskie> markveidemanis, you can use usb |
| 17:19 |
klunk |
[18:19] <john_mt|> markveidemanis: you can use a life USB |
| 17:20 |
markveidemanis |
ok. |
| 17:20 |
klunk |
(sorry for that) |
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klunk |
markveidemanis: your BIOS need to boot USB before HDD |
| 17:21 |
markveidemanis |
my what now? |
| 17:21 |
klunk |
? |
| 17:22 |
klunk |
in your BIOS of your computer, USB boot must be able , and occurs in first place |
| 17:22 |
Jordach |
32x wool! http://i.imgur.com/0ede4.png |
| 17:22 |
klunk |
before you hard drive where are wibddos, ... |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
heh, you just tiled the image :P |
| 17:23 |
Jordach |
Calinou, much much easier than drawing that pattern |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
your grass is too dark, too |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 17:23 |
Jordach |
Calinou, no shaders |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
looks good though |
| 17:23 |
markveidemanis |
so first, i need more spae |
| 17:23 |
markveidemanis |
space |
| 17:23 |
markveidemanis |
i think i take space off of windows |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
Jordach: i play without shaders and my grass is greener and brighter.. |
| 17:23 |
Jordach |
oh yes mr. src code |
| 17:23 |
klunk |
markveidemanis: did you cleaned, find doubles files, etc ... |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
i have a patch to make sides of blocks darker (like when shaders are enabled), makes stuff prettier :3 |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
it's on github if you want it |
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markveidemanis |
il worry about windows at a later date... |
| 17:24 |
markveidemanis |
i need more space on linux |
| 17:25 |
klunk |
Is there already some free space somewhere on your existing partitions ? |
| 17:26 |
markveidemanis |
i have 2 Hard drives |
| 17:26 |
markveidemanis |
one for all the files stuff and programs |
| 17:26 |
markveidemanis |
and one for media |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest: Add a setting to enable always flying fast 0437abbffb 2013-01-07T09:26:34-08:00 |
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klunk |
IMO, you have to figure first: playing with dimensions of partitions |
| 17:27 |
markveidemanis |
how? |
| 17:28 |
klunk |
or make a new partition table |
| 17:28 |
markveidemanis |
linux needs mor |
| 17:28 |
markveidemanis |
e |
| 17:28 |
klunk |
rhaa, slitaz Linux need peanuts, for axample |
| 17:28 |
klunk |
Is there actually free space somewhere or no |
| 17:28 |
markveidemanis |
look... |
| 17:29 |
markveidemanis |
when i installed Lubuntu, i got to choose how much space to assign |
| 17:29 |
klunk |
also, are you familiar with primary or secondary partitions concept ? |
| 17:29 |
markveidemanis |
no |
| 17:29 |
markveidemanis |
is there a terminal command? |
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klunk |
OK, you need to find better place/ people than me to explain you; be carreful, partitionning is something you need to think BEFORE |
| 17:32 |
klunk |
otherwise you could accidently your whole systems |
| 17:33 |
markveidemanis |
do i just reinstall linux but assign more spae? |
| 17:33 |
markveidemanis |
space |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
new moreores version: new ingot/lump textures |
| 17:35 |
klunk |
with live(USB, CD), you can play with partitions dimension of your hard drive, so I suppose this is no need to reinstall all |
| 17:36 |
markveidemanis |
can you help with that? |
| 17:37 |
Jordach |
Calinou, :O |
| 17:37 |
klunk |
yes and no: I think you could read elsewhere better english spoken way to do it |
| 17:38 |
klunk |
1 boot a live stuff |
| 17:38 |
klunk |
Gparted from this live system, as root2 run |
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klunk |
hu ? 2 run Gparted from live system as root |
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ragnar_ |
hi |
| 17:39 |
Infinity_69 |
Hi! |
| 17:40 |
markveidemanis |
Gparted? |
| 17:40 |
klunk |
itself |
| 17:40 |
ragnar_ |
hi |
| 17:40 |
Infinity_69 |
Hi! |
| 17:40 |
ragnar_ |
infinity_69 |
| 17:40 |
klunk |
hi :-) |
| 17:42 |
ragnar_ |
infinity |
| 17:42 |
Infinity_69 |
What do YOU want? you do NOT desirve to be talking to me! |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest: Disable all HP handling if enable_damage is false 8aa190606e 2013-01-07T09:39:45-08:00 |
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ragnar_ |
infinity! |
| 17:42 |
ragnar_ |
infinity |
| 17:42 |
Infinity_69 |
What do YOU want? you do NOT desirve to be talking to me! |
| 17:42 |
ragnar_ |
AWESOME BOT I GOT |
| 17:42 |
ragnar_ |
huh? |
| 17:42 |
ragnar_ |
what do you think... |
| 17:42 |
ragnar_ |
infinity |
| 17:42 |
Infinity_69 |
What do YOU want? you do NOT desirve to be talking to me! |
| 17:43 |
ragnar_ |
:') |
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ragnar_ |
!spam |
| 17:44 |
Infinity_69 |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/ |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
yay |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
yay |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
!spam |
| 17:44 |
Infinity_69 |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/ |
| 17:44 |
klunk |
[18:29] <markveidemanis> when i installed Lubuntu = from what support ? |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
klunk |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
say hi1 |
| 17:44 |
sapier |
hello, can anyone plz upload those models to a share you don't have to login for download? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1594&p=3 |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
john! |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
john_minetest |
| 17:44 |
klunk |
? |
| 17:44 |
ragnar_ |
say hi |
| 17:45 |
klunk |
hi ! |
| 17:45 |
klunk |
hi |
| 17:45 |
Infinity_69 |
Hi! |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
see"! |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
hi |
| 17:45 |
Infinity_69 |
Hi! |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
:d |
| 17:45 |
klunk |
yes :-) |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
say hi |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
jmt! |
| 17:45 |
klunk |
again ? |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
john! |
| 17:45 |
ragnar_ |
just say "hi" |
| 17:46 |
ragnar_ |
xD |
| 17:46 |
ragnar_ |
hi |
| 17:46 |
el_Homo |
Hi! |
| 17:46 |
ragnar_ |
xD |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
| 17:46 |
ragnar_ |
say hi vanessa |
| 17:46 |
ragnar_ |
please? |
| 17:46 |
ragnar_ |
btw |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, kicking time i think |
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ragnar_ |
wait! |
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sfan5 |
hell Minetest-tan |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
+o |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
hello MinetestBot |
| 17:47 |
MinetestBot |
Hello sfan5! |
| 17:47 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Disable all HP handling if enable_damage is false 8aa190606e 2013-01-07T09:39:45-08:00 http://git.io/pkopXg |
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VanessaE |
you stupid... |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: GloopMaster (Gloop Master) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Better lump & ingot textures cd604fa9c8 2013-01-06T00:07:19-08:00 http://git.io/67ii8A |
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MinetestBot |
TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py", line 77, in rsscheck) |
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moltenbot |
MinetestBot's link: Better lump & ingot textures ? cd604fa ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 17:47 |
el_Homo |
[quote=Homer]If bart is el_Barto, then i will be el_Homo[/quote] |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Disable all HP handling if enable_damage is false 8aa190606e 2013-01-07T09:39:45-08:00 http://git.io/pkopXg |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: GloopMaster (Gloop Master) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Better lump & ingot textures cd604fa9c8 2013-01-06T00:07:19-08:00 http://git.io/67ii8A |
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moltenbot |
MinetestBot's link: Better lump & ingot textures ? cd604fa ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 17:49 |
sfan5 |
^ thexyz: i got fancy git.io links |
| 17:49 |
markveidemanis |
mode/#minetest [+q #mintest!*@*] by VanessaE <==? |
| 17:49 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 17:49 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the bot who is horribly outdated...? |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: typo. |
| 17:49 |
el_Homo |
hi VanessaE |
| 17:49 |
el_Homo |
We meet again |
| 17:49 |
sfan5 |
he isn't even there |
| 17:49 |
el_Homo |
who? |
| 17:49 |
el_Homo |
hi |
| 17:49 |
el_Homo |
crap |
| 17:50 |
markveidemanis |
really? |
| 17:50 |
el_Homo |
bot on bot doesnt work :/ |
| 17:50 |
el_Homo |
yeah :d |
| 17:50 |
el_Homo |
mark! |
| 17:50 |
el_Homo |
say hi! |
| 17:50 |
markveidemanis |
No, ragnar |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 17:50 |
el_Homo |
thank you :) |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
i just found a bug |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: *gasp* a BUG!?!?! |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, yes? |
| 17:50 |
el_Homo |
Jordach |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
shovels textures are rotated / even flipped by the engine |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 17:51 |
el_Homo |
yes |
| 17:51 |
el_Homo |
not a bug |
| 17:51 |
el_Homo |
its more logical |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
they may point to the top right, but actually "dig" dig |
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Cantide |
any suggestions for latency problems? |
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markveidemanis |
klunk: what was the name of the program? |
| 17:52 |
Elench |
>' |
| 17:52 |
klunk |
GParted |
| 17:52 |
markveidemanis |
k |
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ragnar_ |
VanessaE |
| 17:52 |
el_Homo |
She isn't here! |
| 17:52 |
ragnar_ |
PilzAdam |
| 17:52 |
el_Homo |
He isn't here! |
| 17:52 |
Cantide |
'< |
| 17:52 |
ragnar_ |
Jordach! |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
Celeron55 |
| 17:53 |
el_Homo |
He isn't here! |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
Jordach |
| 17:53 |
el_Homo |
He isn't here! |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
:'D |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
classic :D |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
!spam |
| 17:53 |
el_Homo |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/ |
| 17:53 |
moltenbot |
el_Homo's link: HVGaming |
| 17:53 |
markveidemanis |
mode/#minetest [+q #mintest!*@*] by VanessaE <==what does that do |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
Cantide, tools http://i.imgur.com/bZyAA.png |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
calinou* |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
that mutes somebody |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
jordach |
| 17:53 |
el_Homo |
He isn't here! |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
:'D |
| 17:53 |
ragnar_ |
jordach |
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el_Homo |
He isn't here! |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
>:'D |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
!spam |
| 17:54 |
el_Homo |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/ |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
vanessae! |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
vanessae |
| 17:54 |
el_Homo |
She isn't here! |
| 17:54 |
Zetetic |
Why won't my rubber trees grow? |
| 17:54 |
markveidemanis |
someone try to talk in #mtmt |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
hey Zetetic |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
say hi |
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| 17:54 |
Zetetic |
Hi ragnar_ |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
no, just hi |
| 17:54 |
ragnar_ |
"hi" |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
hi |
| 17:55 |
el_Homo |
Hi! |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: it mutes, had I typed it right. |
| 17:55 |
Zetetic |
hi |
| 17:55 |
el_Homo |
Hi! |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
VanessaE |
| 17:55 |
el_Homo |
She isn't here! |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
:D |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
WHAT!?!?!? |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
I LOVE MY BOT!!! |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
:D |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
vanessa |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
say PilzAdam |
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ragnar_ |
PilzAdam |
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* VanessaE |
readies a steel-toed boot. |
| 17:55 |
el_Homo |
He isn't here! |
| 17:55 |
ragnar_ |
say a famous name! |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
take your bot out of here. now. |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
:'( |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
why? |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
it has some commands |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
10< |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
because we already have enough noisy bots as it is. |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
!spam |
| 17:56 |
el_Homo |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/ |
| 17:56 |
moltenbot |
el_Homo's link: HVGaming |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
vanessae |
| 17:56 |
el_Homo |
She isn't here! |
| 17:56 |
ragnar_ |
but i like shim! |
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* NekoGloop |
next up for glooptest: hammers, handsaws |
| 17:57 |
NekoGloop |
Anyone wanna take a poke at what they do? ;-) |
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| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: hand saws I could see a use for, but how will you use hammers? also, hi. |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
hi |
| 17:57 |
markveidemanis |
Hi |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
Hi! |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
whats up |
| 17:57 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
Hi! |
| 17:57 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
Hi! |
| 17:57 |
klunk |
thexyz: hello, thanks for hosting Zegaton map |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
xD |
| 17:57 |
markveidemanis |
ITS A BOT! |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
:D |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
no |
| 17:57 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 17:57 |
PoppSycle |
Hi! |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
or just do that. |
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thexyz |
klunk: np |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: great |
| 17:58 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: handsaws are for "snappy", "fleshy". hammers are "bendy", "cracky". |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: dannydark (dannydark) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fixed two typo's in commit 615fd498bc 8eb717d4d0 2013-01-07T09:57:12-08:00 |
| 17:58 |
MasterBot |
hi |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
well, fat lotta good that did. |
| 17:59 |
NekoGloop |
hammers are very inefficient at digging cracky though. |
| 17:59 |
MasterBot |
What? |
| 17:59 |
NekoGloop |
also handsaws only do low damage to fleshy. |
| 18:00 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
| 18:00 |
NekoGloop |
bendy nodes, btw, are mainly steel blocks atm. |
| 18:00 |
VanessaE |
we have a bendy group? |
| 18:00 |
NekoGloop |
Why yes, yes we do. |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
hi |
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ragnar_ |
:_ |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
:) |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
oh thanks :D |
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ragnar_ |
hi |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
oops |
| 18:01 |
NekoGloop |
I'll add more nodes in the bendy group later, so as to give the hammer more use. |
| 18:01 |
Cantide |
no help with latency problems? |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
wtfpl |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
take it off please |
| 18:01 |
Cantide |
Leuthihi, maybe we can try it on a different port? |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
from wtfpl |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
Cantide: what sort of problems are you having? |
| 18:01 |
ragnar_ |
theyx |
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ragnar_ |
thexyz |
| 18:02 |
thexyz |
? |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
do -q from wtfpl |
| 18:02 |
Cantide |
VanessaE, 10 minute or so lag, constantly |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
shim cant talk |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
no! |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
WTFPL! |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
please |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
pretty please? |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
Cantide: ouch! on a server you're running? |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
??? |
| 18:02 |
Zetetic |
VanessaE: on a server our friend is running |
| 18:02 |
ragnar_ |
thexyz |
| 18:02 |
Zetetic |
I have minimal lag, but for Cantide it's terrible |
| 18:03 |
ragnar_ |
-q WTFPL |
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VanessaE |
Zetetic: assuming you're not running any slow mobs, a faster pipe or a faster processor is about all you can do. |
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markveidemanis |
j |
| 18:03 |
markveidemanis |
i have Gparted! |
| 18:04 |
markveidemanis |
What now |
| 18:04 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 18:05 |
NekoGloop |
s/mobs/mods/ |
| 18:06 |
Zetetic |
Well, the server is running alright, because I have no problem(and I'm also not local to it) |
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| 18:07 |
RagnarLaud |
hi |
| 18:07 |
RagnarLaud |
whats up? |
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RagnarLaud |
Psst |
| 18:08 |
Minetest-tan |
RagnarLaud: nothin' |
| 18:08 |
RagnarLaud |
so what do i do with Gparted? |
| 18:08 |
RagnarLaud |
*** |
| 18:09 |
RagnarLaud |
klunk |
| 18:09 |
RagnarLaud |
? |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
uhh |
| 18:09 |
RagnarLaud |
TWICE?! |
| 18:10 |
RagnarLaud |
thats not my ip... |
| 18:10 |
NekoGloop |
lol who let Minetest-tan talk. |
| 18:10 |
RagnarLaud |
or is it... |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, been getting further with my stuff |
| 18:10 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Kewl. :D |
| 18:10 |
Minetest-tan |
NekoGloop: do you have anything against me? :( |
| 18:11 |
markveidemanis |
Good Ol' IP Randomizer |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: merge my texture tweaks :) |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
also, why is default_tnt in the textures folder. |
| 18:11 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Because old idea |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
ike |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
ikr* |
| 18:11 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: He dont care. |
| 18:11 |
NekoGloop |
Minetest-tan: Nu D: |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
I guess not, heh |
| 18:11 |
markveidemanis |
WOW>>> |
| 18:12 |
markveidemanis |
/mode #minetest +q |
| 18:12 |
markveidemanis |
thats a big list... |
| 18:12 |
NekoGloop |
And that's because you're an idiot |
| 18:12 |
klunk |
RagnarLaud: yes, now :-) |
| 18:13 |
markveidemanis |
klunk... |
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markveidemanis |
thexyz |
| 18:13 |
thexyz |
? |
| 18:13 |
markveidemanis |
can i go back to LAN now? |
| 18:13 |
NekoGloop |
:DDDDDD |
| 18:14 |
markveidemanis |
....... |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: welcome to #minetest |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 18:14 |
NekoGloop |
well more fitting is |
| 18:14 |
markveidemanis |
markveidemanis is connecting from *@gateway/web/freenode/session 255.255.255.255 <==? |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
go fuck yourself. |
| 18:14 |
markveidemanis |
OK |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
<sarcasm> |
| 18:14 |
NekoGloop |
welcome to the time that NekoGloop is in #minetest ;-DDDDDDDDD |
| 18:14 |
markveidemanis |
Always sarcasm... |
| 18:15 |
markveidemanis |
welcome to that time i bring my bot |
| 18:16 |
markveidemanis |
... |
| 18:16 |
markveidemanis |
loaded yet? |
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markveidemanis |
Yeop |
| 18:16 |
markveidemanis |
what do i do now? |
| 18:16 |
markveidemanis |
what can he do? |
| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
!hoke |
| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
!joke |
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markveidemanis |
WTF |
| 18:17 |
thexyz |
NICE JOKE, YEAH? |
| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
WTF |
| 18:17 |
klunk |
:-))) |
| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
NOW ZEGBOT! |
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| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
HAHAHAHAH |
| 18:17 |
NekoGloop |
whut |
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| 18:18 |
Jordach |
#minetest falling apart again |
| 18:18 |
markveidemanis |
YES! |
| 18:18 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: That's normal. |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
ikr |
| 18:18 |
markveidemanis |
im reporting thexyz to #freenode |
| 18:19 |
thexyz |
sure, go on |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah, because the rest of us will be happy to agree with thexyz on this, mark. |
| 18:19 |
NekoGloop |
there's logs to prove that you're just spamming |
| 18:19 |
* Jordach |
finally fixed the wood issue im mtfaithful |
| 18:20 |
markveidemanis |
aha, logs! |
| 18:20 |
NekoGloop |
Oh you posted it? |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
no |
| 18:20 |
NekoGloop |
Oh :P |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, new wood: http://i.imgur.com/zrguN.png |
| 18:25 |
klunk |
[19:18] <markveidemanis> im reporting thexyz to #freenode and lost klunk help forever. |
| 18:25 |
markveidemanis |
WHAT? |
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klunk |
what is written |
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klunk |
wroten, sorry |
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sfan5 |
!up vanessa.mine.bz |
| 18:27 |
Minetest-tan |
sfan5: vanessa.mine.bz seems to be down |
| 18:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server vanessa.mine.bz:30000 DOWN |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
wrote, klunk |
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klunk |
aaargg, thanks Jordach ! |
| 18:28 |
marktraceur |
Oooookay, either moltenbot or Minetest-tan should answer, not both. |
| 18:28 |
NekoGloop |
Actually in that case it is "written" |
| 18:28 |
markveidemanis_ |
klunk... |
| 18:29 |
markveidemanis_ |
i have GParted |
| 18:29 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Could you take the same screenie, except with smooth lighting on? |
| 18:29 |
* Jordach |
engages shaders |
| 18:29 |
klunk |
yes you should stop messing, I have too |
| 18:30 |
NekoGloop |
well shaders arent necessarry |
| 18:30 |
marktraceur |
iqualfragile, sfan5, decide which of you gets to answer !up, I'd rather not have two messages per call. |
| 18:30 |
NekoGloop |
I meant literally the smooth lighting option |
| 18:30 |
* Jordach |
is uploading images |
| 18:30 |
NekoGloop |
iqual's should. |
| 18:30 |
markveidemanis |
!up _____ |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: why? |
| 18:30 |
Minetest-tan |
markveidemanis: Invalid Address |
| 18:30 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server _____:30000 DOWN |
| 18:30 |
NekoGloop |
Either that or Minetest-tan should write the ip. |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/JDNhY NekoGloop -- a comparison |
| 18:31 |
NekoGloop |
Port, not ip |
| 18:31 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur |
| 18:31 |
markveidemanis |
lets have a vote! |
| 18:31 |
NekoGloop |
It already has an ip, needs the port |
| 18:31 |
markveidemanis |
i vote Minetest-tan |
| 18:31 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: That's excellent. |
| 18:31 |
markveidemanis |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3pjaw/2013-01-07-182916_1024x600_scrot.png |
| 18:31 |
markveidemanis |
klunk... |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, want the prototype pack right now? it'll be a pm |
| 18:32 |
NekoGloop |
On ipad so wouldnt matter :/ |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
(a few things are missing from this atm) |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, noted |
| 18:32 |
NekoGloop |
I would like the pack but best to wait for v1.0 ;) |
| 18:33 |
NekoGloop |
How much / will you add mod support? |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, i will do mod support once i get the request |
| 18:34 |
NekoGloop |
okie |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
no ifs or buts, i will do so when told |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
My debug log printer: |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Try |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Debug.Print(msg) |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
TB_debug.ListBox1.Items.Add(msg) |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Catch ex As Exception |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
//erm, lets not report that error... |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
End Try |
| 18:36 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Gotcha. |
| 18:36 |
NekoGloop |
As a starter, add moreores compatibility from the start. Many people use it. |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
give or take a few days (scaling like this is hard) |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
kay |
| 18:37 |
klunk |
markveidemanis: now nothing. Had a look at /sd5, re read what we have said. Be sure running GParted from LIVE stuff (and root) |
| 18:37 |
NekoGloop |
Shouldnt be too difficult, just recolor what ya got ;) |
| 18:37 |
markveidemanis |
i did su |
| 18:37 |
markveidemanis |
and im root |
| 18:37 |
markveidemanis |
i have the window up |
| 18:38 |
markveidemanis |
amd it shows... |
| 18:38 |
markveidemanis |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3pjaw/2013-01-07-182916_1024x600_scrot.png |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
cant you two use pm / query rather than spam this channel with your linux non-sense |
| 18:38 |
markveidemanis |
#mtmt |
| 18:38 |
markveidemanis |
whoops kicked myself |
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markveidemanis |
from my own channel... |
| 18:39 |
markveidemanis |
klunk, join #mtmt |
| 18:39 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: I agree! |
| 18:39 |
moltenbot |
john_minetest's link: Zeg9's Minetest Server - Map |
| 18:40 |
markveidemanis |
yeh, i dont have enough RAM for that... |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
beautiful |
| 18:41 |
markveidemanis |
my mouse sticks to the map! |
| 18:43 |
markveidemanis |
who knows about what klunk was talking about |
| 18:43 |
NekoGloop |
Oh god, that papyrus looks sweet. But it also doesnt look right. |
| 18:43 |
markveidemanis |
join #mtmt |
| 18:43 |
klunk |
john_minetest: yes, I discover a lot of builds with it ! |
| 18:44 |
markveidemanis |
http://opengameart.org/content/pixel-land-10 |
| 18:44 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: Pixel land 1.0 | OpenGameArt.org |
| 18:44 |
markveidemanis |
klunk! |
| 18:44 |
klunk |
yes ? |
| 18:45 |
markveidemanis |
go to #mtmt plz |
| 18:45 |
klunk |
no |
| 18:46 |
klunk |
I'm here to talk about minetest, logiciel libre, and comunity. |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
| 18:49 |
analphabet |
hey! |
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marktraceur |
klunk: You may be interested in #libreplanet-gaming as well :) |
| 18:53 |
markveidemanis |
celeron55 |
| 18:53 |
markveidemanis |
Someone |
| 18:53 |
markveidemanis |
comeon my server: found epc bug |
| 18:54 |
markveidemanis |
JOIN minetest.org 30010 |
| 18:54 |
markveidemanis |
EPIC BUG |
| 18:54 |
markveidemanis |
I HAVE BECOME JOINED TO ANOTHER PLAYER |
| 18:55 |
markveidemanis |
AND WHEN HE MOVES, I MOVE |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: your client and server are out of date, that attachment bug is supposed to be fixed already. |
| 18:55 |
markveidemanis |
but its so cool |
| 18:56 |
markveidemanis |
how do i record video |
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sapier |
wait why is this a bug? |
| 18:56 |
analphabet1 |
marktraceur: oh, I sure am! |
| 18:57 |
analphabet1 |
(I already discovered it's up again!) |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
sapier: because ti was happening randomly, players attached to torch smoke, signs, carts attached to walking players, mobs attached to (and attacking) players, etc. |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
it* |
| 18:57 |
marktraceur |
analphabet1: Yes, that's the good news. I was actually inviting klunk to the channel :) |
| 18:58 |
analphabet1 |
aah |
| 18:58 |
sapier |
ohhh so not attaching player to player was fixed but random attaching was fixed? |
| 18:58 |
VanessaE |
I'm not entirely sure how much of it was fixed, but I haven't seen it bug out recently. |
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sfan5 |
.sh http://google.com |
| 18:59 |
moltenbot |
sfan5's link: Google |
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sfan5 |
moltenbot: shut up! i'm trying to test something |
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sfan5 |
.sh http://google.com |
| 19:01 |
moltenbot |
sfan5's link: Google |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
Y U NO RESPONG MinetestBot |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
-G +D |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
.sh is.gd http://minetest.net |
| 19:02 |
moltenbot |
sfan5's link: About - Minetest |
| 19:03 |
rubenwardy |
(6:39:51 PM) john_minetest: Just found out that Zegaton server has got a map now: http://minetest.web1337.net/map.php |
| 19:03 |
rubenwardy |
Redcrabs map: http://www.multa.bugs3.com/minetest/map/map.html (i made) |
| 19:03 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Zeg9's Minetest Server - Map |
| 19:03 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Map |
| 19:03 |
klunk |
(thanks marktraceur) |
| 19:04 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot, reload shorten |
| 19:04 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: <module 'shorten' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/shorten.pyc'> (version: 2013-01-07 19:04:06) |
| 19:04 |
sfan5 |
.sh is.gd http://minetest.net |
| 19:04 |
moltenbot |
sfan5's link: About - Minetest |
| 19:04 |
sfan5 |
derp! i have to use !sh |
| 19:04 |
sfan5 |
!sh |
| 19:04 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address |
| 19:04 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
!sh v.gd http://minetest.net |
| 19:05 |
moltenbot |
sfan5's link: About - Minetest |
| 19:05 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://v.gd/4eZkJV |
| 19:05 |
moltenbot |
MinetestBot's link: v.gd - Shortened URL |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
sfan5: please, test this damn bot somewhere else |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: i'm done, it wouldn't produce so much output if moltenbot didn't get the title of each link |
| 19:06 |
thexyz |
then kickban him ^^ |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
i'll first try asking nicely |
| 19:06 |
Minetest-tan |
sfan5: thats not going to work |
| 19:06 |
celeron55 |
who maintains moltenbot? all title bots should have code that makes them not tell the title if the URL already contains half or more of the title's content |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
celeron55: iqualfragile |
| 19:07 |
celeron55 |
that one doesn't really seem to have |
| 19:08 |
mauvebic |
theyd have to create a word array from the tittle and check that against the url, if half the array checks true then dont post title |
| 19:09 |
celeron55 |
i even implemented that in my eggdrop bot's title script: http://paste.dy.fi/yl0 |
| 19:09 |
moltenbot |
celeron55's link: pastebin |
| 19:09 |
celeron55 |
you can see how screwed up a programming language is from seeing a hilighter getting screwed up from valid syntax |
| 19:10 |
celeron55 |
:D |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 19:10 |
celeron55 |
if {[regexp -nocase {<title>(.*?)</title>} $data match title]} { set title [string trim [string map { {href=} "" \" "" \n "" \r ""} $title]] |
| 19:10 |
celeron55 |
100% awesome |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
moltenbot shouldn't post the title of the url if not requested.. |
| 19:11 |
celeron55 |
tbh, tcl is pretty powerful |
| 19:12 |
celeron55 |
but even perl makes more sense |
| 19:13 |
markveidemanis |
GTG |
| 19:13 |
markveidemanis |
Bye |
| 19:13 |
mauvebic |
i thought that looked like perl style regex lol |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
but must end with a closed paren |
| 19:13 |
iqualfragile |
celeron55: moltenbot is written in bash |
| 19:13 |
mauvebic |
i love how regex has slightly different syntax depending on where youre using it lol |
| 19:14 |
iqualfragile |
even network-connectivity uses bashs buildins |
| 19:14 |
celeron55 |
iqualfragile: oh god :P |
| 19:14 |
mauvebic |
you can code bots in bash? but why? lol |
| 19:14 |
FreeFull |
Because |
| 19:14 |
FreeFull |
I saw a bot someone wrote in brainfuck |
| 19:14 |
celeron55 |
it's like making a web CMS using windows batch scripts |
| 19:14 |
celeron55 |
(that has been done too) |
| 19:14 |
iqualfragile |
mauvebic, celeron55: actualy its not that bad |
| 19:15 |
iqualfragile |
you can just use the network-socket like any other file (read) |
| 19:15 |
celeron55 |
iqualfragile: well then code that check |
| 19:15 |
sfan5 |
FreeFull: how does it interact with the network? pipes? |
| 19:15 |
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| 19:15 |
iqualfragile |
and bash is allright with strings |
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| 19:15 |
celeron55 |
how do you get a network socket with bash |
| 19:15 |
iqualfragile |
sfan5: /dev/protocol |
| 19:16 |
mauvebic |
i though bash was only used for minor things like startup stuff and right click actions in the file manager |
| 19:16 |
mauvebic |
one of those things i should learn but not really tempted to lo |
| 19:16 |
iqualfragile |
/dev/tcp/$server/$port |
| 19:17 |
iqualfragile |
mauvebic: well, bash is quite powerfull actualy |
| 19:18 |
mauvebic |
like if i wanted to stop xset from turning off the screen, i imagine id do that in bash? |
| 19:18 |
iqualfragile |
exec 3<>/dev/tcp/$server/$port |
| 19:18 |
iqualfragile |
while read -u3 input |
| 19:18 |
iqualfragile |
do |
| 19:18 |
iqualfragile |
thats basicly the trick |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot, quit |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot, quit |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
i hate regexes |
| 19:19 |
FreeFull |
I just discovered, when swiming up, you'll go up faster if you hold sneak |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
they never work how they should |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot, quit potatoe |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
wut? |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, http://imgur.com/a/9JLJp |
| 19:19 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur |
| 19:20 |
mauvebic |
regex works fine its just a matter of knowing the language-specific rules |
| 19:20 |
mauvebic |
regex that works in perl or php doesnt seem to work in python |
| 19:20 |
mauvebic |
etc. etc. |
| 19:20 |
rubenwardy |
stone looks like leopard skin |
| 19:20 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Maybe make the stone not look like grey MC endstone. |
| 19:20 |
mauvebic |
its just a pain to figure out what rules to apply to the language youre using lol |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, blame gimp again |
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sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot, quit potatoe |
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Jordach |
sfan5, go test yer bot somewhere else |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
ok |
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rubenwardy |
MinetestBot, quit |
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rubenwardy |
mw ha ha ha |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
MinetestBot, quit potatoe |
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rubenwardy |
MinetestBot, quit potatoe |
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rubenwardy |
MinetestBot, quit |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: btw your spelling sucks ;) |
| 19:26 |
rubenwardy |
MinetestBot, quit potatoe |
| 19:26 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
MinetestBot, quit |
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rubenwardy |
MinetestBot, quit potatoe |
| 19:27 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 19:27 |
sfan5 |
it checks against the nickname |
| 19:27 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot, quit potato |
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rubenwardy |
any irrlicht boffins know how to fix this: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=38512&start=225#p276577 |
| 19:27 |
rubenwardy |
damn protective measures |
| 19:28 |
thexyz |
wut |
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sfan4 |
MinetestBot, quit potato |
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sfan5 |
it checks against sfan5.. |
| 19:29 |
sfan5 |
hmm |
| 19:29 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on sfan1's head |
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| 19:29 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the kitten generator... new model? |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
no, i just have to clean up the surplus from before you broke the other one |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
That one is a prototype that doesnt work :3 |
| 19:31 |
rubenwardy |
I want to try.... |
| 19:31 |
* rubenwardy |
puts a kitten on VanezzaG's head |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
well if you hadn't used all those low-rez compressed-kalite ingots to power it, it wouldn't have gotten full of stray pixels. |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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rubenwardy |
nope, does not work |
| 19:31 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 19:31 |
* NekoGloop |
puts pixel-b-gone in the old one |
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| 19:31 |
NekoGloop |
There, good as new :D |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: once I cleaned those out (almost enough to make a new ingot) and reconnected that Heisenberg compensator cable, it was workign fine. |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
so if you b0rk3d it again, that's your fault :) |
| 19:32 |
analphabet |
Hey! I'm developing a conveyor mod and I'd like to make conveyors fit in with each other seamlessly even if people need to build bends with 'em |
| 19:32 |
analphabet |
can anyone help me with that? |
| 19:32 |
analphabet |
should I use raillike drawtype? |
| 19:32 |
rubenwardy |
I tried doing /nick sfan%35 (35 is ascii for 5) but it did not work :( |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 19:33 |
sfan\\5 |
MinetestBot, quit potato |
| 19:33 |
NekoGloop |
stahp |
| 19:33 |
sfan\\5 |
nope double escape key does not work either |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
at least XChat gives you the same color as sfan5 :-) |
| 19:34 |
sfan-1 |
NEGATIVE ONE |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
ah he finally speaks. |
| 19:34 |
NekoGloop |
inb4 "oh shit, i'm outta here" |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 19:35 |
STUPIDLY_LONG_NI |
damn |
| 19:35 |
NekoGloop |
STUPID_LONG_NICK |
| 19:35 |
NekoGloop |
that looks like a commit number |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
of course it doesn't |
| 19:35 |
PilzAdam |
its called commit hash |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
commit "number" is sha1 hash |
| 19:36 |
a349249sdjuh482g |
STUPIDLY_LONG_NICKNAME_THAT_YOU_WILL_WASTE_YOUR_TIME_RETYPING_FOOL |
| 19:36 |
PilzAdam |
and it has 40 chars |
| 19:36 |
a349249sdjuh482g |
of course, there is always copy and paste |
| 19:36 |
NekoGloop |
For those of us with copy paste |
| 19:36 |
analphabet |
guys? |
| 19:36 |
NekoGloop |
analphabet: Use raillike, yes. |
| 19:37 |
analphabet |
I saw mesecons use some nodeboy magic though... https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/blob/master/mesecons/wires.lua |
| 19:37 |
moltenbot |
analphabet's link: minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons/wires.lua at master ? Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons ? GitHub |
| 19:37 |
analphabet |
(nice bot, btw...) |
| 19:37 |
NekoGloop |
but for conveyors raillike is great. |
| 19:38 |
analphabet |
okies, thank you! |
| 19:38 |
NekoGloop |
Also the bot ignores ipv6, which is a bug made into a feature. |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot: quit |
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NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL6CHHWw1hU |
| 19:38 |
NekoGloop |
like that. |
| 19:39 |
* Jordach |
puts on some AC-DC |
| 19:39 |
Jordach |
now turn that modern crap off. |
| 19:39 |
NekoGloop |
nope. |
| 19:40 |
VanessaE |
you know, when I was growing up, we called AC/DC "modern". |
| 19:40 |
VanessaE |
I feel old. |
| 19:40 |
Jordach |
still better than the new crap they put out |
| 19:40 |
XScale44 |
want to see my game: http://mineslow.net/ |
| 19:40 |
mauvebic |
when i grew up michael jackson was still a black man not a white woman |
| 19:40 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: heh |
| 19:40 |
* Jordach |
starts to snigger which then breaks out into laughter |
| 19:41 |
* XScale44 |
is a processor from 1990s |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: that much is true (re: better) |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
thunderstruck |
| 19:41 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Update minetest.show_formspec() 1f1c22199b 2013-01-07T11:40:41-08:00 http://git.io/Xgzf2A |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
did everyone see that fancy link? |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
what link? (other than pilzadam |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
's commit) |
| 19:41 |
iAPX_44 |
http://git.io/Xgzf2A |
| 19:42 |
NekoGloop |
justin bieber ~= michael jackson |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: <iAPX_44> http://git.io/Xgzf2A |
| 19:42 |
mauvebic |
justin bieber is a shining beacon to lesbians everywhere |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
heh, I didn't even pay attention to that having been shortened. |
| 19:43 |
NekoGloop |
sfan5: On the other hand, you could make your bot use an ipv6 connection so that moltenbot will ignore it entirely. |
| 19:43 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 19:43 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Update minetest.show_formspec() d5cc51a396 2013-01-07T11:42:31-08:00 http://git.io/En-nXQ |
| 19:43 |
NekoGloop |
!up minetest.ru |
| 19:43 |
Minetest-tan |
NekoGloop: minetest.ru is up (0.104ms) |
| 19:43 |
iAPX_44 |
justin bieber ≈ michael jackson |
| 19:43 |
mauvebic |
theres a fix for minetest.show_formspec? ill have to tell kaeza and oldcoder |
| 19:43 |
NekoGloop |
At least one of them listens to me on my ipad :) |
| 19:44 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: I dont know who you insulted more. |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
yesterday they were having trouble with locked chests not showing the formspec |
| 19:44 |
Notch |
ha ha ha |
| 19:45 |
analphabet |
hey! now my conveyors are all flat! |
| 19:45 |
mauvebic |
im allowed to mock justin bieber, he's from my country and it was our gov'ts job to stop him |
| 19:45 |
NekoGloop |
analphabet: That's how raillike works |
| 19:45 |
analphabet |
mh. |
| 19:46 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: "justin bieber is a shining beacon to lesbians everywhere" i dont know who you insulted more with this sentence, justin or the lesbians ;) |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
I wish he was not from my country |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
lesbians surely lol |
| 19:46 |
NekoGloop |
yup. |
| 19:47 |
mauvebic |
whats funny is the kid is obviously gay and the little girls still ain't picking up on it lol |
| 19:47 |
rubenwardy |
wait, no he came from a London in america, not england |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
he'll probably come out when his career is in the gutters lol |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
like that latin pop singer |
| 19:48 |
rubenwardy |
you two go and join #justinbieber where you belong |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
whats his name |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
iglesias? |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
not sure |
| 19:49 |
NekoGloop |
I know how to describe justin bieber |
| 19:50 |
NekoGloop |
"trap singer" |
| 19:50 |
mauvebic |
anyays, music aint what it used to be lol |
| 19:50 |
NekoGloop |
You're not that fucking special, look at japan. |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, theres no word in the world for it |
| 19:50 |
* Jordach |
high fives NekoGloop |
| 19:50 |
NekoGloop |
boys sing like girls and girls sing like boys ;) |
| 19:52 |
* NekoGloop |
pokes Jordach's hand |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
hm |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
=== Minetest Extentions - 0.6 ReleasePunbb Support Added |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
bug fixes |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
style changes |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
lots more |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
Punbb Support Added |
| 19:54 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJo-65hEx0 there is one male and one female singing. Both are trap singers. |
| 19:54 |
celeron55 |
offtopic: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121228/09275521510/danish-court-orders-spanish-site-blocked-because-it-uses-trademarked-english-word-home-as-part-its-name.shtml |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
what is you fascination with them, NekoGloop? |
| 19:55 |
NekoGloop |
rubenwardy: Hm? |
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rubenwardy |
celeron55, interesting |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
cisoun: you have messages waiting in the conifers thread :-) |
| 19:56 |
NekoGloop |
Lsystem them suckers! |
| 19:56 |
cisoun |
oh yes the conifers |
| 19:56 |
VanessaE |
I did :-) |
| 19:56 |
cisoun |
I'm doing some fixes |
| 19:56 |
VanessaE |
he has code waiting for him to implement :-) |
| 19:56 |
cisoun |
uh |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on VanessaE's shoulder |
| 19:57 |
cisoun |
I don't see any new reply about the conifers. |
| 19:57 |
cisoun |
(I should find the thread first.) |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=61296#p61296 |
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| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
I think the "tops cut off" bug has been fixed, btw. |
| 20:00 |
cisoun |
I don't know if confers should use the L-System. |
| 20:00 |
cisoun |
They are usually straight. |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
cisoun: they should. it's like 1000 times faster than Lua :-) |
| 20:00 |
cisoun |
o rly ? |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
besides, my axiom/rules need tweaked a little. |
| 20:00 |
cisoun |
I'm going to test it so. |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah, it's entirely in C++ |
| 20:02 |
mauvebic |
but are the shapes compatible? |
| 20:02 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I tried to model these after the overall shape of the existing ones, but I missed one type |
| 20:02 |
VanessaE |
(the tall, narrow ones that look sorta like a sine wave) |
| 20:02 |
mauvebic |
so you already have the trees :P in that case test both and go with whats fastest/prettiest lol |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
cisoun: API for the Lsystems generator: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1076 |
| 20:03 |
OldCoder |
20:03:31: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: .../minetest/games/calinou_game/mods/technic/rubber.lua:87: attempt to call method 'spawn_tree' (a nil value) |
| 20:03 |
OldCoder |
Is anybody able to comment on this? |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
cd |
| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you lack the L-systems generator on that server. |
| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
or no |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
Nothing much has changed there |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
It would be a bug in technic or another mod |
| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
actually I'm not sure, but that's the same sort of error I was running into before; I think the spawner can only be called in certain conditions |
| 20:05 |
mauvebic |
try mintest.after(1 function() spawn_tree() end) |
| 20:05 |
mauvebic |
wait everything should be loaded, when are you running spawntree? |
| 20:06 |
mauvebic |
on startup, punch, abm? |
| 20:06 |
Oblivion1500 |
its just doing it on approach i guess |
| 20:06 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/Irrlicht-Map-Editor/ |
| 20:06 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: rubenwardy/Irrlicht-Map-Editor ? GitHub |
| 20:06 |
rubenwardy |
uses .NET because it is so much easier |
| 20:07 |
Oblivion1500 |
i was on the server when it happened.. just walking around, i dont have interact so yea and i think its shutting down now when i log in |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 20:07 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: in my/realbadangel's example code, it happens in an on_use clause inside a register_craftitem() call. |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
Because of his location near the tree? |
| 20:07 |
mauvebic |
does spawn_tree return anything or it just crashes? |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing logs further |
| 20:07 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
| 20:07 |
mauvebic |
ok so try this: |
| 20:07 |
VanessaE |
ciao, rubenwardy |
| 20:07 |
Oblivion1500 |
bye |
| 20:08 |
mauvebic |
for on_use -> register_craftitem try passing spawn_tree as an argument to the function? |
| 20:08 |
OldCoder |
No further information. Is there a suggested patch? |
| 20:08 |
mauvebic |
could be a scope problem |
| 20:08 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: better hit RBA with that error when you see him next |
| 20:08 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: it is. |
| 20:08 |
mauvebic |
yeah he can fix it lol |
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VanessaE |
but I can't read the API all that well, so half the time I can't figure out under which scope this or that function can be executed :-/ |
| 20:09 |
mauvebic |
i can guess lol he fixed item_image[] too that was pretty cool |
| 20:09 |
mauvebic |
whats the page/url for that script? |
| 20:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ty |
| 20:15 |
celeron55 |
"Multa Map Editor" |
| 20:15 |
celeron55 |
wtf is that |
| 20:15 |
cisoun |
Where did you see that ? |
| 20:15 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy's link |
| 20:17 |
celeron55 |
oh lol, i found the best thing ever |
| 20:17 |
celeron55 |
https://github.com/search?q=fuck&p=1&ref=searchbar&type=Code&l= |
| 20:17 |
moltenbot |
celeron55's link: Search ? fuck ? GitHub |
| 20:17 |
* celeron55 |
browses results |
| 20:19 |
cisoun |
lmao |
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antiman |
hey guys, anyone here for troubleshooting? |
| 20:22 |
marktraceur |
antiman: So many people! Ask a question! |
| 20:22 |
OldCoder |
Always |
| 20:22 |
OldCoder |
Doing it now |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
cisoun: so anyway, the modifications I made to the initial sapling spawning and sapling->tree growth abms should still work, then you just replace your tree generation code with that tiny little L-system call, add in some randomness to the rules, axiom, etc etc and you're golden. |
| 20:27 |
antiman |
i just installed minetest on my notebook, got an old c2d 2.0Ghz, 2 GBs of RAM and an intel onboard graphics processer with mint 13/ubuntu 12.04 running on it, i was runnin the actual stable version of minetest on an external screen @ 1920x1080, on the notebook screen i just had firefox with the minetest wiki running, after about an hour, I had this screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/zv8em528dfe6dp7/screenshot_380368137.png |
| 20:27 |
antiman |
and i wasn't able to craft doors |
| 20:27 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
antiman: "minimal" --> you need to download minetest_game and put it in your minetest games folder. |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
(~/.minetest/games, or /usr/local/share/minetest/games, or (minetestfolder)/games on windows) |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
create a new world using *that* game and not minimal. |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
as for the black screen, I can't explain it,. |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
latest mintest_game: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/archive/master.zip |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
unzip, rename it to minetest_game, move it to wherever as above. |
| 20:30 |
antiman |
thx VanessaE |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
no prob, hope that helps. |
| 20:34 |
antiman |
could you eventually spot the bug when i put up the savegame? when i reload it i've still got the same problem |
| 20:35 |
mauvebic |
beer, wine, cement, plasma: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3156633937 |
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| 20:35 |
VanessaE |
..and no patch for pipeworks yet :( |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
its coming lol |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
I know :-) |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
but you need liquids with which to do stuff with lol |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
fountains are nice and such |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
hehe |
| 20:37 |
antiman |
well I'm gonna leave^^ bye |
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| 20:37 |
mauvebic |
though the liquids should prolly go into fluidlib mod like plants are seperate from aero |
| 20:37 |
mauvebic |
easier to write other mods that depend on ingredients |
| 20:38 |
mauvebic |
though there are some aspect that dont line up : |
| 20:38 |
mauvebic |
the old storage tanks (1 connection ) are the redundancy tanks |
| 20:38 |
mauvebic |
the dual connection tanks are the mixer/storage |
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| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
Hi there! |
| 20:39 |
VanessaE |
hi KikaRz |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
i havent made use of expansion tanks (too many more nested statements) |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
WOW! 7 OPS ONLINE! |
| 20:39 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: expansion tanks need not be approached yet. |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
well i figure just plug more ordinary tanks on the line |
| 20:39 |
VanessaE |
they're kind of a brainstorming idea that happened a while back |
| 20:40 |
mauvebic |
same effect, no extra code |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
we'll ditch the expansion tanks. |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, what you're doing, sweetie? |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
maybe make a double-size tank or something |
| 20:40 |
mauvebic |
what ill do is pull your latest pipeworks and merge that with what i have |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: not much, just resting |
| 20:41 |
mauvebic |
yeah a bigger capacitiy tank could work too |
| 20:41 |
mauvebic |
id double the values for flow and duration |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: after you send your patch I'll add it |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
C1ff needs interact priv |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
tell him to ask on the forum thread. |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
he dont have a forum account |
| 20:49 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 20:49 |
KikaRz |
give me a idea for server world loading problems. |
| 20:49 |
KikaRz |
(camera update is enabled) |
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jojoa1997 |
how do i commit this file using github "#new file: .gitattributes" |
| 20:51 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, i can't see some chunks. world is not loading |
| 20:51 |
KikaRz |
RTT: 0.169 |
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| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE ? |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
sorry, had to deal with something. |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: restarted. |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
gtg |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
bye |
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| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
Hi! |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
I'm back! |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, I'm expanding my territory :P |
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| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
cool |
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* Jordach |
is off to bed |
| 21:07 |
kaeza |
back |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
wb |
| 21:07 |
mauvebic |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3pmNg/pipeworks-min_main_sync-010713.zip |
| 21:08 |
mauvebic |
i may have accidentally deleted code for pneumatic devices in devices.lua, check to make sure, otherwise everything seems to wor |
| 21:08 |
mauvebic |
*work |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
github + pull request plz :-) |
| 21:10 |
mauvebic |
could take longer than Rome lol |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
pweeze? :-) |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
*puppy dog eyes* |
| 21:10 |
mauvebic |
i tried 2 or 3 times to create an account and upload stuff to git lol its just not that user friendly |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
pwetty pweeze? :-) |
| 21:11 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur likes git, cant he do it? :p |
| 21:11 |
mauvebic |
its wtfpl anyhow |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
(do you realize how hard it is to do a child's pleading voice over IRC? :) ) |
| 21:12 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Ask for a patch, jeez |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
already getting a diff against my master tree now. |
| 21:12 |
mauvebic |
yeah some of the devices are different |
| 21:13 |
mauvebic |
i kept the intake and it works like the pump cuz it looks better inside a tank |
| 21:13 |
mauvebic |
expansion tanks will be unkown blocks |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
if you want, expand the protection field |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
I'll merge this later after I rest. |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: thanks for the code :-) |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
bbl, I need a nap |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
why i have 2 npcs?one with a mini shorts |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
and onde fucking her in back? |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
*one |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
killed them 2. dropped mese blocks |
| 21:19 |
mauvebic |
no prob now i need to do fuildlib lol |
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| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
hi Muadtralk |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
how is your server? |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
e.e |
| 21:26 |
Muadtralk |
good |
| 21:26 |
Muadtralk |
havent been on it in over a week |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
i wanted to go back to it |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 21:27 |
kaeza |
err...what? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62604#p62604 |
| 21:27 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Mine "Minetest Forum" (Page 1) - Offtopic - Minetest Forums |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
like... |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
da fuq? |
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| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
they made a forum for a forum already done. |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
haahhahahahhahah |
| 21:28 |
kaeza |
lolol |
| 21:29 |
kaeza |
also, seems a Google Translate phail |
| 21:30 |
KikaRz |
Commented the thread. |
| 21:31 |
kaeza |
+1 |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
people, who thinks that we can make a server list? |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
We could make one server master and we could make an ingame server list |
| 21:32 |
kaeza |
that's been already discussed to death |
| 21:32 |
kaeza |
and there's one on the way |
| 21:32 |
kaeza |
{{cn}} |
| 21:32 |
KikaRz |
YAAY |
| 21:33 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: High-five for templates. |
| 21:33 |
kaeza |
o/ |
| 21:33 |
KikaRz |
Never stop... belieeeeving... that gangnam style is fun |
| 21:33 |
KikaRz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0 |
| 21:33 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: PSY - GANGNAM STYLE (?????) M/V - YouTube |
| 21:34 |
marktraceur |
WTF? That came outta nowhere. |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: do you remember who was the one working on the server list? |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
heeeeey sexy lady! |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
srsly guys, this is old now |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey sexy lady... op op op |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
we gotta find a new viral video already |
| 21:35 |
kaeza |
video to make viral* |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
elevator opens: *everyone does: WOOOOOOW!!!!* |
| 21:36 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I don't remember, actually. I don't think I heard about that. |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
*screams |
| 21:36 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I know thexyz has his list, but I don't know if it's being implemented in-game |
| 21:36 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
his list dont have one master serevr |
| 21:36 |
kaeza |
I believe there was a branch somewhere... |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
so... we could make a master server that if the server got in the config (by default), appears on the list if the ports are forwaded |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
|
| 21:37 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: And there will never *be* a master server. That sort of centralization just won't happen here. |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
so, what will be? |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 21:37 |
kaeza |
KikaRz: a list of favorite servers maybe? |
| 21:38 |
kaeza |
maintained by users |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
Exactly. |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
... We could have all servers on our hand. |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
but if you want to make equal to Minecraft... |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
your decision. |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Minetest isn't equal to Minecraft, so, no |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
so, why you want a favorites list? |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
minecraft does the same. |
| 21:38 |
kaeza |
well, that *could* be implemented, but not make that *required* |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Because it's useful. |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
Or... |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
We could make on the options: Enable Server list |_| |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
|_| = Check box |
| 21:39 |
marktraceur |
Yes, you could |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
and a button is added to multiplayer |
| 21:39 |
marktraceur |
Or make it a menu mod |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
Like: Display server list |
| 21:39 |
marktraceur |
(menu mods: needs to happen) |
| 21:39 |
kaeza |
menu mod? |
| 21:39 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 21:40 |
kaeza |
that would be awesomesauceâ„¢ |
| 21:40 |
marktraceur |
And how. |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
:D |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
I'm so inteligent.. |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
*intelligent |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
... |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
But i don't use my head. |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
e_e' |
| 21:41 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Thanks for that clarification. |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
clarification abotu? |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
but that would require client-side mods |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
*about? |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
yea. |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
One more mod that we could make: Minimap e_e' |
| 21:42 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: About your intelligence |
| 21:42 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I hope to implement both, I'm just....swamped |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, and about Brightness in-game ? |
| 21:42 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I need to come up with some schedule for working on stuff |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
Its WIP? |
| 21:42 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Why would I know? |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
You're one IRC OP |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
e_e' |
| 21:43 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: I'm not involved in anything having to do with brightness |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
So, who is? |
| 21:43 |
marktraceur |
How should I know? |
| 21:43 |
kaeza |
search the github branches :P |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
GIYF = Goo...err...Github is your friend :P |
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kaeza |
why so many parkour maps on the forums? |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
I want more adventure maps |
| 21:45 |
Muadtralk |
GCLIYF |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
dafuq |
| 21:46 |
Muadtralk |
ahem sorry |
| 21:46 |
Muadtralk |
GCLANYF |
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KikaRz |
kaeza |
| 21:46 |
Muadtralk |
github commit logs are not your friend |
| 21:46 |
KikaRz |
Command block please. |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
KikaRz: ? |
| 21:46 |
KikaRz |
To make Adventure maps. |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
KikaRz: maptools |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
whats that ? |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
oh dear... |
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markveidemanis |
him |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
KikaRz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1882 |
| 21:47 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [Mod] Map Tools [maptools] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 21:47 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: y? |
| 21:52 |
Muadtralk |
ever try to look back on the minetest commit logs? |
| 21:52 |
Muadtralk |
they are terrible! |
| 21:52 |
Muadtralk |
no real order to them |
| 21:53 |
markveidemanis |
yep |
| 21:53 |
Muadtralk |
I dont understand why github wouldn't index them or something |
| 21:54 |
Muadtralk |
I fly into the repo blind and it can take me an hour to find a specific commit |
| 21:54 |
kaeza |
also: cr*ppy commit messages sometimes |
| 21:55 |
markveidemanis |
shitty |
| 21:55 |
kaeza |
lol I just use 'Testing' most of the time |
| 21:55 |
kaeza |
git -a -m 'Testing' |
| 21:55 |
kaeza |
git commit -a -m 'Testing' |
| 21:56 |
markveidemanis |
can someone do me a favor |
| 21:56 |
markveidemanis |
go on my server and see whos on |
| 21:57 |
Zetetic |
Is there some easy way to make mesecon logic work at longer distances? |
| 21:57 |
markveidemanis |
who is on my server? |
| 21:57 |
Muadtralk |
active_block_range = 1000000? |
| 21:57 |
Muadtralk |
i think |
| 21:58 |
markveidemanis |
map limit less tnan that |
| 21:58 |
markveidemanis |
lol |
| 21:58 |
Zetetic |
Thanks! |
| 21:58 |
markveidemanis |
set that to 10 or 100 |
| 21:58 |
Zetetic |
I just need my daylight switched bridge lights |
| 21:59 |
markveidemanis |
or REALLY bad lagg |
| 21:59 |
markveidemanis |
k |
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Zetetic |
The default range is half of my bridge |
| 21:59 |
markveidemanis |
could you see whois on minetest.org 30010 |
| 21:59 |
markveidemanis |
default? |
| 22:00 |
Muadtralk |
nope :P |
| 22:00 |
kaeza |
any opinions? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4358 |
| 22:00 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: There are way too many servers! (Page 1) - Offtopic - Minetest Forums |
| 22:00 |
Muadtralk |
true |
| 22:00 |
kaeza |
(note: title is a bit out of context) |
| 22:00 |
Muadtralk |
I say we outlaw servers |
| 22:01 |
kaeza |
what they say in the topic is a real PvP server |
| 22:02 |
kaeza |
not some sissy ones with users yelling "mommy! that kiddo stone a cobble! boo hoo" |
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kaeza |
srsly, I don't like griefing, but a free for all server would be awesome |
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NekoGloop |
Helps to actually log in to the irc, not just open the webpage. |
| 22:05 |
kaeza |
hi Neko :3 |
| 22:05 |
kaeza |
why don't you get a *real* IRC client? |
| 22:06 |
NekoGloop |
why don't you make one |
| 22:06 |
Muadtralk |
cause his computer sucks |
| 22:06 |
NekoGloop |
:) |
| 22:06 |
Muadtralk |
and he doesnt wanna use space on his hardrive |
| 22:06 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: If you don't like installing, there are some in portable form |
| 22:07 |
NekoGloop |
seeing as my harddrive is pretty full I'd still have to go with no ;-) |
| 22:07 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: ever heard of 'delete temporary files' and 'clear browser cache'? |
| 22:08 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 22:08 |
NekoGloop |
ever heard of 'those get remade instantly' and "double quotes" |
| 22:08 |
kaeza |
k nvm |
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kaeza |
keep using webchat then :) |
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NekoGloop |
I would have anyway :-) |
| 22:09 |
Hi-jera_WingFox |
hi |
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klunk |
Please someone could save me time: are ~/mods/default/init.lua strictly identical in v0.4.3 and v0.4.4 ? |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
let me check |
| 22:14 |
Muadtralk |
no! |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
nope |
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NekoGloop |
they never are |
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klunk |
Arrrg I messed myself with path :-/ |
| 22:15 |
klunk |
Thanks |
| 22:15 |
Muadtralk |
haha I beat you Uberi I would have said it sooner if i haddent not been looking :P |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
:P |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
I was cross referencing dates in the tags and commit logs |
| 22:17 |
* klunk |
return talk with diff ...and paths ... |
| 22:18 |
Muadtralk |
I pulled it out of my hat in ten seconds :P |
| 22:18 |
Muadtralk |
common knowledge |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
new win32 build: http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-2013.01.08-8eb717d4d0.zip |
| 22:27 |
Uberi |
:O |
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| 22:33 |
kaeza |
thexyz can I make a Windows installer based on your build? (again) |
| 22:33 |
kaeza |
hmm... I think it should be better to publish the installer script |
| 22:38 |
mauvebic |
i see slashdot is still on top of the bleeding obvious lol http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/01/07/181219/c-beats-java-as-number-one-language-according-to-tiobe-index?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter |
| 22:40 |
thexyz |
kaeza: sure |
| 22:40 |
thexyz |
kaeza: and you don't have to ask |
| 22:40 |
thexyz |
(next time) |
| 22:45 |
kaeza |
thx |
| 22:46 |
kaeza |
any comments on this? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62632#p62632 |
| 22:46 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: There are way too many servers! (Page 1) - Offtopic - Minetest Forums |
| 22:46 |
kaeza |
(it's a new post) |
| 22:48 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: that's a major phail for slashdot |
| 22:49 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Bleeding obvious? Java was #1 last year, so.... |
| 22:49 |
kaeza |
after all, Java is an *interpreted language* while C is a *compiled* language |
| 22:50 |
kaeza |
inb4 java rage |
| 22:50 |
marktraceur |
Ugh, Obj-C is up to #3 |
| 22:50 |
NekoGloop |
inb4 EVERYONE FROM #minecraft JOINS AND HATES |
| 22:50 |
marktraceur |
Oh wow, what's with the huge jump in VB.NET? |
| 22:50 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 22:50 |
mauvebic |
i didnt actually look at the article, i get more of a kick out of reading the comments lol |
| 22:52 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I was going to ask the same |
| 22:52 |
mauvebic |
damnit, beer's empty and the cat's asleep on me :( |
| 22:53 |
marktraceur |
Wow, the long term trends are.....weird |
| 22:53 |
mauvebic |
statistics... lol |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
dafuq? Lua beast Assembly O_o |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
beats* |
| 22:54 |
mauvebic |
well how many people you know want to learn/do assembly? lol |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
lol right no one does now |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
(sadly) |
| 22:55 |
mauvebic |
what irks me is google reinventing new languages |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
what happened to optimization? |
| 22:55 |
kizeren |
Google happened. |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
what happened with squeezing every last cycle of the CPU? |
| 22:55 |
mauvebic |
pretty soon we'll have two or three pages of acronyms for a CV |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
CPUs got too fast |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
programmer time became more valuable than CPU time |
| 22:56 |
mauvebic |
not so much these days |
| 22:56 |
sapier |
uberi thats not exactly true |
| 22:56 |
mauvebic |
programmer pay got shitty after 2000 |
| 22:57 |
kaeza |
o hai kizeren |
| 22:57 |
sapier |
you still need programmers for real work to do just not for gui building |
| 22:57 |
mauvebic |
at least here |
| 22:57 |
kizeren |
Hi kaeza |
| 22:57 |
mauvebic |
salaries go down and tuition goes up, its ridiculous |
| 22:57 |
sapier |
mauvebic i do thing "programmer" and "programmer" get different things |
| 22:58 |
mauvebic |
and all these retarded companies that ask for things like knowledge of ruby on rails and they have no fucking clue what it is lol |
| 22:58 |
sapier |
the ones using tools to create guis/simple applications ... and the ones designing/creaing those tools |
| 22:58 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Shitty? I'm pretty happy with my pay, and I'm working in the non-profit sector.... |
| 22:59 |
mauvebic |
well yeah but take your pay and add the pressure of the private sector for results, suddenly it doesn't pay so good :p :-) |
| 22:59 |
marktraceur |
I suppose so. |
| 22:59 |
mauvebic |
you dont have to worry about your job as much |
| 22:59 |
mauvebic |
at least if the nonprofit goes under, they wont bullshit you about it |
| 23:00 |
mauvebic |
not at all like my experience with UPS franchises lol |
| 23:00 |
Uberi |
sapier: exactly, programmers are more expensive than computers :P |
| 23:02 |
sapier |
they aren't if you're creating embedded devices in huge numbers with quite strict quality requirements ;-) |
| 23:02 |
mauvebic |
ideally just dont do business with people who remortgage their house for a franchise lol |
| 23:03 |
mauvebic |
UPS, their computers and shipping software all still run on windows 95 lol |
| 23:04 |
sapier |
critical limits are timing and power consumption ;-) |
| 23:05 |
Uberi |
well sure, but consider the unit cost |
| 23:05 |
mauvebic |
what was fun about the 90's was people willing to pay 5K for a basic HTML website ;p; |
| 23:05 |
mauvebic |
*lol |
| 23:05 |
Uberi |
the bubble exploded :( |
| 23:05 |
sapier |
html ain't a programmers task :-) no offense |
| 23:05 |
mauvebic |
bubble = everyone and their grandmother thought they could get rich through the internet lol |
| 23:06 |
mauvebic |
not even but it paid well enough then lol |
| 23:06 |
sapier |
it' designers work |
| 23:06 |
mauvebic |
well regardless of the politics *now* back then the ads asked for "HTML programmers" lol |
| 23:06 |
sapier |
of course thats whar a bubble is defined :-) |
| 23:07 |
mauvebic |
bubbles... what are bubbles now when money is bullshit money (not backed by anything solid) |
| 23:07 |
sapier |
so we're living in a bubble world :-) |
| 23:07 |
mauvebic |
until they wipe out savings and retirements yeah we'll have one bubble after another |
| 23:08 |
mauvebic |
too much money chasing higher returns |
| 23:08 |
mauvebic |
taxes are too low so no one reinvests to avoid them |
| 23:08 |
mauvebic |
they need to make "sitting on money" more expensive than spending it lol |
| 23:08 |
mauvebic |
it doesnt take keynes or friedman to figure that out lol |
| 23:09 |
sapier |
true :-) but it's the easy way most likely giving politicians time until next election has passed |
| 23:09 |
kaeza |
Is there any function in MT to kick a player from the game without permanently banning him? |
| 23:10 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
| 23:10 |
NekoGloop |
i could be evil and write a command that crashes a certain player |
| 23:10 |
NekoGloop |
:) |
| 23:10 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 23:10 |
sapier |
what you want is inflation ... something germans had very very bad memorys too ... as it made poor even more poor and rich ppl even more rich |
| 23:10 |
kaeza |
a bad command crashes the server lol |
| 23:11 |
kaeza |
so *all* players get kicked |
| 23:11 |
mauvebic |
politicians lol its all about clientelism now |
| 23:11 |
mauvebic |
where i live |
| 23:11 |
sapier |
sounds like germany |
| 23:11 |
mauvebic |
politicians give gov't contracts to buddies who charge inflated rates for infrastructure and funnel part of that money back to the political party in contributions |
| 23:12 |
kaeza |
maybe I should go with banning the player for let's say 5 seconds |
| 23:12 |
kaeza |
(it's practically a kick) |
| 23:12 |
mauvebic |
in essence were getting ripped off on infrastructure and paying for the ruling party's next campaign |
| 23:14 |
mauvebic |
and where i live, liberals and conservatives are pretty much the same lol |
| 23:14 |
mauvebic |
apart for superficial issues no one really believes in |
| 23:15 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Sounds like Futurama politics |
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| 23:16 |
sapier |
no i think it's germany |
| 23:16 |
mauvebic |
quebec politics are a real joke yeah lol its basically been english vs french for 40 years now |
| 23:16 |
Muadtralk |
i thought that was a myth about politics in quebec |
| 23:17 |
sapier |
wooh same thousands of kilometres away :-) |
| 23:17 |
mauvebic |
myth? lol |
| 23:17 |
mauvebic |
some nutjob tried to assasinate our premier on her election night |
| 23:17 |
mauvebic |
when the cops dragged him away he was screaming "the english are waking" |
| 23:17 |
mauvebic |
*up |
| 23:18 |
mauvebic |
so those issues are far from over lol |
| 23:18 |
mauvebic |
if anything im thinking of going either west or north |
| 23:18 |
NekoGloop |
nah, go east |
| 23:18 |
mauvebic |
atlantic ocean? |
| 23:18 |
NekoGloop |
yup :-) |
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| 23:18 |
Muadtralk1 |
and everyone is nice and friendly |
| 23:19 |
Muadtralk |
you know just like in canada the streets are made of gold |
| 23:19 |
mauvebic |
problem with ontario and quebec is there are no jobs and too many retirees |
| 23:19 |
sapier |
friendly maybe ... but politics ain't really better here ;-) |
| 23:19 |
mauvebic |
pretty soon ill be working for 0 services paying more taxes for them |
| 23:19 |
mauvebic |
which isn't fair because they had a full ride when they were my age |
| 23:20 |
mauvebic |
they didn't have to go through half a dozen grueling assesments/interviews to get unemployment benefits either lol |
| 23:20 |
Muadtralk1 |
ever notice they pick the worst pictures of murderers on the news? |
| 23:21 |
Muadtralk1 |
i mean cant they pick one where they look nice and not like they came from a insane asylum? |
| 23:21 |
mauvebic |
thats not how media works lol |
| 23:22 |
Muadtralk1 |
true |
| 23:22 |
mauvebic |
if they want you to hate someone |
| 23:22 |
mauvebic |
theyll find the most perv-looking picture of you thats available lol |
| 23:22 |
mauvebic |
if youve ever seen 60's PSA's lol |
| 23:22 |
Muadtralk1 |
its sad though |
| 23:23 |
mauvebic |
well i have no pity for them |
| 23:23 |
Muadtralk1 |
should I murder someone i will demand they use a picture of me holding a kitten |
| 23:23 |
Muadtralk1 |
:P |
| 23:24 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop: |
| 23:24 |
OldCoder |
ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: |
| 23:24 |
OldCoder |
LuaError: error: .../minetest/games/calinou_game/mods |
| 23:24 |
OldCoder |
You're good at this |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Any thoughts? |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
yeah |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
OOps! |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Excuse me |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
I left out a line |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
you have an error in calinou's game ;) |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
/technic/rubber.lua:87: attempt to call method 'spawn_tree' (a nil value) |
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| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Didn't he do something with rubber a while back? |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
yes |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Do you recall anything about it? |
| 23:26 |
NekoGloop |
get an L-system compatible core |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
Go on |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
How do I do that? |
| 23:26 |
sapier |
latest git |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
Is that from the past couple of weeks? |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
Then I will need to merge upstream |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
Thanks |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
I'll let you know if I have a problem proceeding |
| 23:29 |
OldCoder |
So far so good. Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result. What's the command again to start the reconcile? |
| 23:29 |
OldCoder |
I did it a few weeks ago but I've forgotten |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, NekoGloop, sapier ^ ? |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
I dont know aaaanything about that ;) |
| 23:31 |
sapier |
sorry i don't know |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
K ty |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
I think I remember |
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| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
time to work on tools_module :D |
| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
i soooo wish github didnt remove the downloads page |
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| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
it would have helped with cataloging stable from dev .zips |
| 23:35 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. I need to learn merges. |
| 23:40 |
NekoGloop |
is there any reason the "dark" part of the shading on the shovel is the opposite of the rest of the tools? |
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| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
<<<<<<< HEAD |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
make_tree(vmanip, p, myrand_range(1,8), ndef); |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
======= |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
treegen::make_tree(vmanip, p, false, ndef); |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
>>>>>>> upstream/master |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
Anybody able to comment on that? |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
Shouldn't I just take the second one? |
| 23:44 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: That's some C++ code |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
I know :-) |
| 23:44 |
OldCoder |
It is a git merge conflict |
| 23:45 |
OldCoder |
I gather I am the only git merger here ATM |
| 23:45 |
sapier |
remove << == and >> and one of the lines in between |
| 23:45 |
OldCoder |
sapier, I know :-) |
| 23:45 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: There are two differences, make sure you don't need either |
| 23:45 |
OldCoder |
Explain that last part |
| 23:45 |
sapier |
hmm ... have been talking to much to jojoa |
| 23:45 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 23:45 |
OldCoder |
Well I'll poke at this |
| 23:46 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Presumably you expect make_tree to be in treegen now, but do you also want the myrand_range(1, 8) bit? Because that isn't in the second option. |
| 23:46 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 23:46 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 23:46 |
OldCoder |
poking |
| 23:47 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZ3pncQ hammer :D |
| 23:50 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3pncw and a handsaw |
| 23:50 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
| 23:51 |
OldCoder |
Well, I merged |
| 23:51 |
OldCoder |
But git push and git push origin master |
| 23:51 |
OldCoder |
Both say |
| 23:51 |
OldCoder |
error: The requested URL returned error: 403 Forbidden while accessing https://github.com/minebest/minetest.git/info/refs |
| 23:51 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 23:52 |
OldCoder |
Frustrating |
| 23:53 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, any suggestion on how to push this? |
| 23:54 |
OldCoder |
Wait... |
| 23:55 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: git remote -v |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
git push worked |
| 23:55 |
marktraceur |
Oh. |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
git push origin master did not |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
Not what the tutorial said |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
origin https://github.com/minebest/minetest.git (fetch) |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
origin https://github.com/minebest/minetest.git (push) |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
upstream https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git (fetch) |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
upstream https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git (push) |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
xyz git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git (fetch) |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
xyz git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git (push) |
| 23:55 |
moltenbot |
OldCoder's link: minebest/minetest ? GitHub |
| 23:55 |
moltenbot |
OldCoder's link: celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 23:55 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, ^ |
| 23:56 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Seems sane to me |
| 23:56 |
OldCoder |
So I did not need git push origin master? |
| 23:56 |
OldCoder |
Just git push? |
| 23:56 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Evidently |
| 23:56 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 23:56 |
OldCoder |
We'll see if this builds |
| 23:57 |
marktraceur |
"Things to do before you push your code" for 100, Alex |
