| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
iqualfragile |
yeah |
| 00:00 |
kaeza |
LAD: use "/msg moltenbot !time" |
| 00:00 |
LAD |
lol |
| 00:00 |
LAD |
i figerd it out |
| 00:00 |
LAD |
i did !joke |
| 00:00 |
LAD |
look |
| 00:01 |
LAD |
<moltenbot> "Every time someone uses the word "intense", LAD always replies "you know what else is intense?" followed by a roundhouse kick to the face." |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
chuck norris jokes FTW! |
| 00:01 |
LAD |
XD |
| 00:01 |
LAD |
yup |
| 00:01 |
LAD |
he keeps giving thm to me |
| 00:01 |
iqualfragile |
but please this channel is about minetest |
| 00:01 |
iqualfragile |
not about bots |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
(if I say for the bad he may /roundhouse_kick me) :) |
| 00:02 |
LAD |
lol |
| 00:02 |
LAD |
im useing him in a PM |
| 00:02 |
iqualfragile |
!t bots |
| 00:02 |
moltenbot |
Bots are there to help you and the channel, dont missuse them to spamm. You can use /msg moltenbot |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
spam* |
| 00:02 |
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| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
!date Portugal |
| 00:03 |
moltenbot |
Do 20. Dez 00:03:18 WET 2012 |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
cool. |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
it's wet in purtugal |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
portugal* |
| 00:08 |
KikaRz |
esiy |
| 00:09 |
KikaRz |
*wait, let me see one thing |
| 00:09 |
KikaRz |
i need to adjust my 3 watches |
| 00:09 |
KikaRz |
!date GMT |
| 00:09 |
moltenbot |
Do 20. Dez 00:09:20 GMT 2012 |
| 00:09 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
!tw kaeza |
| 00:10 |
Minetest-tan |
เวลาà¸à¸±à¸šà¹ƒà¸ˆà¸„นจิงๆ (@kaeza) |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
? |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
oh right |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
!tw lkaezadl3 |
| 00:10 |
Minetest-tan |
@RobDenBleyker When will there be a new C&H animated short? It's been a while since the last one (@lkaezadl3) |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
that was looooooong ago |
| 00:11 |
* VanessaE |
looks at Minetest-tan |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
don't you use THAT kind of language in this channel - most of us can't frickin' read it :D |
| 00:12 |
kaeza |
language? |
| 00:12 |
kaeza |
?? |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: on my screen I see what looks sorta like ancient Phoenician. |
| 00:13 |
kaeza |
yes |
| 00:13 |
kaeza |
mistyped my username |
| 00:13 |
kaeza |
i'm `lkaezadl3' on twitter |
| 00:13 |
kaeza |
not `kaeza' |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: it's a joke, whenever someone says something in an either gibberish- or completely misunderstood language or dialect, Abe or I would say "Don't you use THAT kind of language at me!" as if to say "Don't you curse at me!" |
| 00:14 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 00:14 |
kaeza |
sorry |
| 00:14 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
It's funny. Laugh. :-) |
| 00:15 |
kaeza |
but @kaeza may very well be saying "You Son of A..." |
| 00:15 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 00:15 |
* kaeza |
laughs |
| 00:15 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:16 |
Exio |
it is me or the 'link' to the minetest_game in github in the Downloads section links to the minetest repository? |
| 00:16 |
kaeza |
... |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
Exio: the game content: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game |
| 00:16 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
the engine: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest |
| 00:16 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 00:17 |
* VanessaE |
wields a steel-toed boot ready to kick the bot for describing links we already all know :-) |
| 00:17 |
* kaeza |
agrees |
| 00:17 |
Exio |
VanessaE: i know, i already have it downloaded, i just ask about the link in the Downloads section |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. Just for reference then. |
| 00:18 |
kaeza |
It seems someone is going to port MT to Android |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
kaeza, that twitter is from alkaeza maybe. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
should be doable |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
what's Android run on, ARM or something right? |
| 00:19 |
kaeza |
KikaRz: al qaeza* |
| 00:19 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
Hey |
| 00:19 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
hi KikaRz :-) |
| 00:20 |
KikaRz |
Tomorrow's doodle: 200nd anniversary of Grimm's stories. |
| 00:21 |
NakedFury |
december 21 doodle will probably be some ancient mayans looking to the sky and watching a meteor fall and in the process destroying the planet or our atmosphere |
| 00:22 |
NakedFury |
or just an image of earth blowing up |
| 00:22 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 00:22 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 00:22 |
KikaRz |
or not |
| 00:22 |
NakedFury |
I will most probably will be alive and saying happy birthday to my mother |
| 00:24 |
KikaRz |
http://br.livra.com/pick/na-sua-opiniao-qual-sera-o-doodle-no-google-no-dia-21-12-2012/342843643/ (In your opinion, which may be the doodle of day 21/12/12) |
| 00:24 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Na sua opiniao, qual sera o Doodle no Google no dia 21/12/2012? | Picks em Livra Brasil |
| 00:24 |
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| 00:24 |
kaeza |
k |
| 00:24 |
KikaRz |
1 day left!!! |
| 00:25 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 00:25 |
KikaRz |
options in english: |
| 00:25 |
KikaRz |
A mayans calendar; |
| 00:25 |
KikaRz |
Something related to the poster of movie "2012" |
| 00:26 |
KikaRz |
Something happy and cool, like... uncle, we still here. |
| 00:26 |
kaeza |
In the 22nd, I'll run across the street yelling "happy new world"! :P |
| 00:26 |
KikaRz |
Something inspirational and suggestive |
| 00:26 |
KikaRz |
Something emblematic |
| 00:26 |
KikaRz |
... Everything ok and in peace. |
| 00:26 |
KikaRz |
We are waiting something happens... then, we will decide. |
| 00:27 |
NakedFury |
should be known that every year after december 21 2012 we shall celebrate a global holiday, the New World Day |
| 00:27 |
kaeza |
for myself, it'll be another day here at the channel |
| 00:29 |
KikaRz |
yea. |
| 00:31 |
Uberi |
sad how the new world will be just as polluted, corrupted, and sick as our old one :) |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
Uberi: on that topic, I believe something big will change |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
something more or less like the flood |
| 00:34 |
Uberi |
can only wait and see! |
| 00:35 |
KikaRz |
DIA 21 DE DEZEMBRO TÃ CHEGANDO SE FOR O FIM DO MUNDO COMO VC ACHA QUE VAI ACABAR? - Day 21 December is coming, if its the end of the world, how do you think its going to finish? |
| 00:35 |
KikaRz |
A) A BIIIIIIIIIIG FLOOD? |
| 00:35 |
KikaRz |
B) AN ATOMICAL BOMB |
| 00:35 |
Uberi |
kaeza: nah the biblical flood took over 40 days before Mt. Ararat was covered |
| 00:35 |
ecube |
wat |
| 00:35 |
KikaRz |
C) It's going to transform in Pizza |
| 00:36 |
ecube |
C!!! I Pick C!!!! |
| 00:36 |
Uberi |
IT'S GOING TO RAIN SPOONS FROM THE SKY |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
I like C |
| 00:36 |
ecube |
omfg! I want to die with pizza |
| 00:36 |
KikaRz |
I pick D. |
| 00:36 |
marktraceur |
D) +q |
| 00:36 |
Uberi |
that is a valid option as well |
| 00:36 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Please don't spread religious FUD here, especially don't flood the channel with it. Thanks. |
| 00:37 |
marktraceur |
I'll unmute you shortly. |
| 00:37 |
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| 00:37 |
kaeza |
hello Aqua |
| 00:37 |
Aqua |
Hello |
| 00:38 |
KikaRz |
D) Raining Food and money. (and a bomb to marktraceur's head |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
sowwy |
| 00:40 |
Uberi |
well that would increase inflation overnight |
| 00:40 |
Uberi |
all you would have is currency devaluation |
| 00:40 |
Uberi |
it's the end of the financial world! |
| 00:41 |
KikaRz |
Yea. And Portugal will be corrupted. (We are getting without money D; ) |
| 00:42 |
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| 00:43 |
Aqua |
Hello |
| 00:44 |
KikaRz |
hi |
| 00:46 |
jojoa1997 |
hi |
| 00:47 |
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| 00:51 |
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| 00:51 |
LandMineOG |
. |
| 00:51 |
LandMineOG |
hi marktraceur :) |
| 00:51 |
kaeza |
hi LM |
| 00:52 |
LandMineOG |
hi kaeza |
| 00:52 |
marktraceur |
LandMineOG: Hi! I see you've dubbed yourself an Original Gangster. Very clever. |
| 00:53 |
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| 00:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
Are these too many demands? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58152#p58152 |
| 00:53 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Christmas Minetest Wishlist (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanez: maybe |
| 00:54 |
LandMineOG |
yeah marktraceur thats me |
| 00:54 |
LandMineOG |
a clever guy |
| 00:54 |
* marktraceur |
is impressed |
| 00:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
You know i'm glad that that guy death dealer finally left, he was a fucking asshole lol |
| 00:56 |
LandMineOG |
so mark you gave up yesterday eh? |
| 00:57 |
marktraceur |
LandMineOG: Yup. If you want to destroy a community that wants to create something awesome for your enjoyment, I've realized I can't stop you. It's up to you to have a conscience. |
| 01:01 |
marktraceur |
I happen to think that you can be a great member of this community. I'm excited to see what you can do when you spend time on positive things rather than trying to antagonize people. |
| 01:02 |
hmmmm |
ah |
| 01:02 |
hmmmm |
the reason why I don't like you, oldcoder, is because you're always super serious |
| 01:02 |
hmmmm |
like wtf |
| 01:02 |
hmmmm |
it's just a game |
| 01:02 |
hmmmm |
you're like the kind of kid who would show up to school with a briefcase or something |
| 01:03 |
ecube |
the game has potential and for the first stages of it, it's serious |
| 01:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yay, someone shares my dislike of oldcoder |
| 01:04 |
marktraceur |
What on earth? Can't we talk about something other than who dislikes whom? |
| 01:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
Nope! |
| 01:06 |
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| 01:06 |
marktraceur |
This is supposed to be a place to chat cordially about a piece of software. Why must you bring in personal gripes? |
| 01:07 |
marktraceur |
"I don't like older people" "I don't like younger people" "That one's too serious" "That one's a girl" |
| 01:07 |
marktraceur |
Quit it. |
| 01:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
No, no, no, you see, old coder is the one that mainly starts trouble with a lot of people, same with landmine, i mean, i try to tell people exactly what you just told me, but there are just too many people that argue with them |
| 01:08 |
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| 01:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
All of this, right here, has nothing to do with what i do with minetest, i could be the only person who plays minetest, and i would still enjoy it |
| 01:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
I don't understand what is wrong with the rest of you people |
| 01:09 |
ecube |
what are you trying to say? |
| 01:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Everyone fights over this game, i hate old coder because of who he is, i hate landmine because of who he/she/it is, why do you people quarrel over software? |
| 01:11 |
STHGOM |
? |
| 01:11 |
STHGOM |
i came in late |
| 01:11 |
ecube |
The software created a community |
| 01:11 |
ecube |
Within a community you will always have some sort of conflict |
| 01:11 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: fair enough, you are free to hate whomever you please |
| 01:11 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: I don't quarrel over the software. If someone is causing trouble *in this channel*, I will deal with it to the best of my ability without jeopardizing my sanity. |
| 01:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
and then we had another great developer, who got into an argument over a game, and because he compared his reality (veganism) with the game (his vegan pack) and then landmine started to toy with him, he left |
| 01:12 |
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| 01:12 |
LandMineOG |
lol jordan4ibanez your funny |
| 01:12 |
kaeza |
hello Dogzilla131 |
| 01:13 |
STHGOM |
Hello! |
| 01:13 |
ecube |
herro |
| 01:13 |
Dogzilla131 |
hi kaeza, STHGOM, ecube |
| 01:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
The way you people compare reality to online interactions makes no sense |
| 01:13 |
NakedFury |
right back to you hating a person online |
| 01:13 |
LandMineOG |
says the dude who is online all day |
| 01:14 |
STHGOM |
so who was the person i met on #powder? |
| 01:14 |
ecube |
jordan4ibanez: Hate is real both online and in reality |
| 01:14 |
kaeza |
Dogzilla131: have you updated your moreflags lately? |
| 01:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
I hate oldcoder because he takes himself way to seriously, not because of how he plays this game, and on top of that i put him on ignore |
| 01:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Not only this, but when i un-ignored i saw that he was taunting me to get me to put me to put him back to voiced on my client, why is he even an op? |
| 01:15 |
STHGOM |
hmm...? |
| 01:16 |
STHGOM |
thats odd... |
| 01:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
also to that: i may spend a shit ton of my time online, but i do not let it affect who i am mentally |
| 01:17 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: are you sure that was the actual OldCoder? there have been cases of impersonation you know |
| 01:17 |
Uberi |
I'm just saying, I don't think that sounds like OldCoder |
| 01:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
I am 100% sure that that was oldcoder, he was +O at the time |
| 01:17 |
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| 01:17 |
STHGOM |
but you should still respect him if you are going to be on this channel |
| 01:17 |
STHGOM |
ask him why he taunted you... |
| 01:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
I would respect him, but when he pms me talking about how landmine is a ghost, and how i should step down from my high horse, why should i un-ignore him? I don't understand why this guy is an op |
| 01:18 |
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| 01:19 |
kaeza1 |
hey Taoki |
| 01:19 |
STHGOM |
high horse? |
| 01:19 |
STHGOM |
hi |
| 01:19 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: wait what? a ghost? am I missing something here? |
| 01:19 |
LandMineOG |
no |
| 01:19 |
STHGOM |
ask him about it then |
| 01:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
I don't have any idea what he was talking about either, but oldcoder should not be an op |
| 01:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
Fuck no, I'm all set with talking to him in general |
| 01:20 |
STHGOM |
what does that mean? |
| 01:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
I don't know you ask him |
| 01:21 |
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| 01:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
Anyways, i have made some weird discoveries, entities can be stuck to eachother when they are created |
| 01:21 |
STHGOM |
did he say " Fuck no, I'm all set with talking to him in general"? |
| 01:21 |
NakedFury |
entities are like when you drop items? |
| 01:22 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: yeah I saw the issue, apparently it's a client thing |
| 01:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes, and yes |
| 01:22 |
STHGOM |
ok... |
| 01:22 |
KikaRz |
good night |
| 01:22 |
LandMineOG |
later |
| 01:22 |
KikaRz |
Portugal: 1 day left. |
| 01:22 |
STHGOM |
bye |
| 01:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
It happens server-side too, sometimes my npcs will stick together and will print the same position |
| 01:22 |
Uberi |
(I say that because they can happen to some clients but not others, on the same server) |
| 01:22 |
KikaRz |
For the end of the world |
| 01:22 |
LandMineOG |
bye |
| 01:22 |
KikaRz |
:) |
| 01:22 |
LandMineOG |
:) |
| 01:22 |
KikaRz |
(world will transform in pizza |
| 01:22 |
STHGOM |
:) |
| 01:22 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: oh, maybe they are two separate issues... |
| 01:23 |
NakedFury |
the end of the world happens on mayan time zone so sync your watches |
| 01:23 |
KikaRz |
mayan time zone = ? |
| 01:23 |
KikaRz |
!date mayan |
| 01:23 |
moltenbot |
Do 20. Dez 01:23:44 mayan 2012 |
| 01:23 |
KikaRz |
o_o' |
| 01:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes they are, it's strange |
| 01:23 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 01:23 |
OldCoder |
Who rang? |
| 01:23 |
KikaRz |
bot has the mayan timezone? |
| 01:23 |
ecube |
hi |
| 01:23 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 01:24 |
NakedFury |
mayan time zone = place where they lived = mexico |
| 01:24 |
* OldCoder |
sighs |
| 01:24 |
KikaRz |
!date mexico |
| 01:24 |
moltenbot |
Do 20. Dez 01:24:15 mexico 2012 |
| 01:24 |
KikaRz |
!date Mexico |
| 01:24 |
moltenbot |
Do 20. Dez 01:24:21 Mexico 2012 |
| 01:24 |
ecube |
i love it |
| 01:24 |
KikaRz |
... not working |
| 01:24 |
OldCoder |
I suppose it would be redundant to comment to jordan4ibanez again |
| 01:24 |
KikaRz |
bye. |
| 01:24 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: probably, considering he has likely ignored already |
| 01:24 |
OldCoder |
He has indeed |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
I am kind of tired of this stuff |
| 01:25 |
LandMineOG |
its 7:24 pm here in mexico |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
This exchange above... |
| 01:25 |
LandMineOG |
mayas lived in yucatan |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
has come right after some stuff with hmmm... |
| 01:25 |
LandMineOG |
its like +2 hours |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
I am not going to pull a Cornernote... |
| 01:25 |
LandMineOG |
so it would be 9:25 there |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
But I may have had enough |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
LandMineOG, Hi |
| 01:25 |
OldCoder |
hmmmm, rather |
| 01:25 |
LandMineOG |
hi oldcoder |
| 01:26 |
OldCoder |
Why the Hell would I put myself out when people are going to react like that? |
| 01:26 |
OldCoder |
I'm going to ask RBA if he wishes to fork and set up Minebest |
| 01:26 |
Uberi |
minebest? |
| 01:26 |
STHGOM |
OldCoder... |
| 01:26 |
OldCoder |
STHGOM, yes? |
| 01:27 |
OldCoder |
Look, I know any group is going to have a few bad apples |
| 01:27 |
OldCoder |
But frankly I think LandMineOG here is miles above jordan4ibanez and hmmmm |
| 01:27 |
OldCoder |
I really don't need that kind of crap |
| 01:27 |
STHGOM |
did you hear everything whats-his-name said about you |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oldcoder, i have un-ignored you for 5 seconds to tell you this |
| 01:28 |
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| 01:28 |
LandMineOG |
lol |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
lmfao |
| 01:28 |
STHGOM |
wow |
| 01:28 |
ecube |
wut |
| 01:28 |
LandMineOG |
he must not be feeling good |
| 01:28 |
LandMineOG |
he usually doesnt take anything to serious |
| 01:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well he's been causing trouble since he got here,so thank goodness he left |
| 01:30 |
NakedFury |
he still has Backupcoder account |
| 01:30 |
LandMineOG |
true....dont know if he uses it though |
| 01:30 |
LandMineOG |
yesterday i sent him a pm and he never responded |
| 01:30 |
NakedFury |
is there gonna be any mayan event going on in mexico LandMine> |
| 01:30 |
NakedFury |
? |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
well not where i live |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
maybe yucatan and the south parts of mexico |
| 01:31 |
NakedFury |
so business as usual? |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
im in mexico city |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
thats in the middle |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
yeah |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
anyhow ill be back in 1-2 hours |
| 01:31 |
LandMineOG |
dont miss me to much peeps |
| 01:31 |
ecube |
you fooled me into un-iptables-ing you by saying i dropped all the mexican packets |
| 01:32 |
LandMineOG |
ecube i didnt lie |
| 01:32 |
LandMineOG |
all mexico city ips start with 189 |
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moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC |
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moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC |
| 01:32 |
STHGOM |
jordan : <OldCoder> Tell him to fuck himself. I am not returning to be told something for "five seconds" |
| 01:32 |
ecube |
That might be true, but... oh well. |
| 01:33 |
LandMineOG |
well jordan left so lol |
| 01:33 |
STHGOM |
:P |
| 01:33 |
STHGOM |
ohh well |
| 01:33 |
ecube |
i love how that always happens |
| 01:33 |
LandMineOG |
brb peeps |
| 01:36 |
NakedFury |
this minecraft mod needs to come and join minetest: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1540451-145-tabbychat-v143-chat-tabs-and-more-for-multiplayer-custom-chat-filters-chat-logging-highlighting/ |
| 01:36 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: [1.4.5] TabbyChat v1.4.3 - Chat Tabs (and more) for Multiplayer - custom chat filters, chat logging, highlighting... - Minecraft Forum |
| 01:38 |
leo_rockway |
I think one channel is enough. If I want to chat, I'd be on IRC, not playing. |
| 01:38 |
leo_rockway |
and there's an IRC mod already. |
| 01:38 |
NakedFury |
its was mainly so we get a better chat ingame |
| 01:39 |
ecube |
and so that you can passively monitor a server without having the game open |
| 01:40 |
NakedFury |
that would be nice but that mod is for ingame chat tabs |
| 01:40 |
NakedFury |
just like any other mmo game has Local, Global, Guild, Party, etc |
| 01:40 |
NakedFury |
you could do the same in minecraft |
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Uberi |
the passive chat is a great feature to have |
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Sparky |
sorry about that |
| 01:44 |
Sparky |
AAGH |
| 01:45 |
kaeza |
hey leo_rockway |
| 01:46 |
leo_rockway |
greetings and salutations |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
no need to be to formal :P |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
so* |
| 01:47 |
leo_rockway |
sup, hommie? |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
... |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
the first one was better :P |
| 01:48 |
leo_rockway |
hehe |
| 01:48 |
leo_rockway |
I haven't touched MT in over a week. |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
yes :) I didn't see you around here lately |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
been busy with exams? |
| 01:49 |
leo_rockway |
my laptop is still sick. I'm using my work laptop (with Windows :S) and I can't install anything on it. |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
oh too bad |
| 01:50 |
leo_rockway |
the cooler doesn't start on my laptop. Hopefully it is _just_ the cooler and not a sensor. |
| 01:50 |
leo_rockway |
if it's just the cooler, I'll replace it eventually. |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
man laptop coolers are a pain to take out |
| 01:51 |
leo_rockway |
I already did |
| 01:51 |
RealBadAngel |
another reason why laptops sucks ;) |
| 01:51 |
leo_rockway |
I cleaned it out, but it's still not starting. |
| 01:51 |
leo_rockway |
RealBadAngel: they do. Particularly Dells. |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
hi RealBadAngel |
| 01:51 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
I spent over 2 hours prying off the sides, and then I noticed there was a flap on the side that pops the top right off :/ |
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leo_rockway |
my sister has the exact same model, so I'm going to take her cooler and check if it works on my laptop. |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
hey RealBadAngel |
| 01:51 |
leo_rockway |
then I'll try to find a replacement cooler |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: the cooler doesn't work under separate power? |
| 01:52 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: I have no way to try it out... |
| 01:52 |
RealBadAngel |
hi VanessaE |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
they're usually only 5v or 12v DC |
| 01:52 |
kaeza |
wb V |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel, oldcoder needs to speak with you |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
thanks :-) |
| 01:52 |
leo_rockway |
how do I connect it to power, VanessaE? |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: benchtop power supply, gator clips, and straight pins. |
| 01:52 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, i saw something in logs, but he seems to be offline |
| 01:53 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: I have none of those o.o. The fastest way for me would be to try my cooler on my sister's laptop and her cooler on my laptop. |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
well I guess if that's all you got... |
| 01:54 |
leo_rockway |
my sister is worried I'll break her laptop >.< |
| 01:54 |
* kaeza |
is glad to have a desktop PC |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
well it's a legit worry - even the best, most experienced techs make mistakes. |
| 01:54 |
leo_rockway |
if it's just the cooler, I found a place that says they sell replacements for about 65 USD |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
$65 for a laptop cooler? that seems a bit high. |
| 01:55 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: my country has heavily restricted importing stuff... |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
jeez |
| 01:55 |
leo_rockway |
I may be able to find it a bit cheaper, but not much cheaper. |
| 01:55 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: we can't buy USDs either... |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
what good is a USD? they're practically worthless anyway :D |
| 01:56 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: they are more stable than Argentine pesos. |
| 01:56 |
kaeza |
Euro FTW! |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
I guess you mean USB? |
| 01:56 |
leo_rockway |
but we can't buy Euros either. |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
oh ok, you really meand USD then :) |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
meant* |
| 01:56 |
leo_rockway |
yup |
| 01:56 |
leo_rockway |
we can't buy any foreign currency |
| 01:57 |
leo_rockway |
and we have an inflation that's close to 25% |
| 01:57 |
leo_rockway |
so pesos' value depreciate fast |
| 01:57 |
leo_rockway |
depreciates* |
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STHGOM |
halloo |
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* leo_rockway |
highfives STHGOM |
| 02:07 |
STHGOM |
... |
| 02:07 |
leo_rockway |
I scared STHGOM away o.o |
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Aqua |
Hi |
| 02:35 |
STHGOM |
hi |
| 02:35 |
NakedFury |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58152#p58152 |
| 02:35 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: Christmas Minetest Wishlist (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 02:36 |
NakedFury |
jordan4ibanez has a huge christmas wish list |
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kaeza1 |
zzz |
| 02:47 |
kaeza1 |
It's been pretty quiet around here :( |
| 02:49 |
NakedFury |
what else do you play besides minetest> |
| 02:49 |
NakedFury |
? |
| 02:54 |
NakedFury |
or are you working on any mt related project? |
| 02:54 |
kaeza1 |
NakedFury: http://cosmorpg.sf.net |
| 02:54 |
moltenbot |
kaeza1's link: Legend of Cosmo |
| 02:55 |
kaeza1 |
but it's not much of a game right now |
| 02:56 |
NakedFury |
with rpg maker? |
| 02:56 |
Aqua |
im recodring minetest files with david |
| 02:56 |
kaeza1 |
NakedFury: in plain C |
| 02:57 |
kaeza1 |
a custom engine |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
ohh full game by yourself |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
you already knew c or learning as you go? |
| 02:57 |
kaeza1 |
more or less |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
what do you mean recording minetest files Aqua? |
| 02:58 |
kaeza1 |
I have plenty of knowledge about c |
| 02:59 |
kaeza1 |
but you always learn new things by doing your own games :) |
| 03:00 |
Aqua |
i making a new series minetest files |
| 03:01 |
Aqua |
kaeza's idea |
| 03:01 |
NakedFury |
but files? making videos about each mod? |
| 03:01 |
kaeza1 |
lol the minetest files was your idea |
| 03:01 |
kaeza1 |
NakedFury: a parody of The X Files |
| 03:02 |
NakedFury |
ok get it now |
| 03:02 |
NakedFury |
does it work like a story lets play? |
| 03:03 |
Aqua |
sort of like chimneyswifts minecfraft files |
| 03:04 |
Aqua |
i tired redcrabs but neuro was talking bout privacy and everything |
| 03:04 |
Aqua |
and being really annoying |
| 03:07 |
Aqua |
Can you recommend a server> |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
what would you need? |
| 03:08 |
NakedFury |
a quick peaceful list are the oldcoders minetest.org servers. 17 of them with varying game modes |
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| 03:09 |
Aqua |
i need one where u get build by default |
| 03:10 |
NakedFury |
your name in game? |
| 03:11 |
NakedFury |
I can give you interact in the minetest.org 30000 |
| 03:11 |
Aqua |
ok |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
don't forget mine |
| 03:13 |
Aqua |
sDid i join? |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 03:13 |
NakedFury |
yes you did |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
vanessae.mine.bz |
| 03:13 |
NakedFury |
vanessa and oldcoder both have great servers |
| 03:14 |
NakedFury |
with tons of mods |
| 03:14 |
Aqua |
i need one that lets me record |
| 03:14 |
kaeza1 |
OldCoder you here? |
| 03:14 |
NakedFury |
No problem at Oldcoders |
| 03:15 |
kaeza1 |
hmm seems like he's still off |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: record? |
| 03:16 |
Aqua |
Yeh |
| 03:16 |
Aqua |
minetest files |
| 03:16 |
Aqua |
with davidpace |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure I understand |
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| 03:16 |
kaeza |
aaargh |
| 03:17 |
NakedFury |
david with capital D and P as in DavidPace? |
| 03:17 |
Aqua |
I tried recrab but neuro didnt let me |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
all lowercase actually is how he writes it |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: record what? I don't understand |
| 03:17 |
Aqua |
so I'm trying to find another one which let's me record |
| 03:17 |
Aqua |
record a video |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
toh |
| 03:18 |
Aqua |
to put on youtube |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 03:18 |
kaeza |
Aqua: have you tried those I suggested |
| 03:18 |
kaeza |
? |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
well a server owner can sure request that you don't record from their servers, but there's really nothing to stop you from doing so. On mine, I don't care if you record, as long as you turn off the chat (F2, unless it is directly germane to the purpose of the recording) |
| 03:20 |
Aqua |
i know thats what i did but neuro still didnt let me |
| 03:25 |
* VanessaE |
waits patiently for PilzAdam to show up |
| 03:25 |
kizeren |
Hi all. |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
hi kizeren |
| 03:27 |
kizeren |
HI VanessaE |
| 03:28 |
kizeren |
Did they rremove passing through walls in 04.4. with fly on? |
| 03:28 |
NakedFury |
I think so |
| 03:28 |
NakedFury |
cant do it any more |
| 03:28 |
kizeren |
I wondered why I was yet again stuck in a wall :P |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
no theydidn't |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
you need noclip priv |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
then hit 'h' to enable it. |
| 03:29 |
kizeren |
Ahhh yes thanks Vanessae |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
that was a recently added option |
| 03:30 |
Exio |
i'm having a weird problem, http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mt/renderthing.ogv |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
turn off shaders in the Settings menu |
| 03:31 |
ecube |
VanessaE: The noclip option... does that prevent players from passing through protected walls by mining and lagging? |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
ecube: not afaik |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
you pass through everything if noclip is enabled. |
| 03:31 |
Exio |
oh, thanks |
| 03:31 |
ecube |
thanks |
| 03:32 |
Exio |
i should ask why it happens :P |
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VanessaE |
it happens on DirectX systems mostly |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
(Windows, when not using OpenGL mode) |
| 03:34 |
Exio |
i'm using linux |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
odd |
| 03:34 |
Exio |
well, nice, i'm very lucky |
| 03:34 |
Exio |
DirectX problem using OpenGL :P |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
you could try editing minetest.conf and change it to '2' |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
ot |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
it's probably set for '1' |
| 03:36 |
Exio |
i don't have any config atm |
| 03:36 |
Exio |
well, i will try setting it to 2 |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
you do. |
| 03:36 |
Exio |
just the defaults :P |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
it's created when the game first starts, afaik :-) |
| 03:39 |
Exio |
i think i got the problem |
| 03:39 |
Exio |
GLSL not available. |
| 03:39 |
Exio |
when i start mt ^ |
| 03:40 |
Aqua |
naked fury im finally on your server |
| 03:40 |
NakedFury |
OldCoders |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
Exio: = no shaders :( |
| 03:41 |
NakedFury |
you are free to video and act the series |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
Exio: open source video drivers? |
| 03:41 |
kaeza |
Exio: what gfx card do you have? |
| 03:41 |
Exio |
VanessaE: netbook |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
'nuff said |
| 03:41 |
Exio |
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
you probably have no shaders on that |
| 03:41 |
leo_rockway |
intel atom |
| 03:41 |
leo_rockway |
so probably no shaders indeed |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
you probably don't even have much of 3d accel on that either |
| 03:41 |
Exio |
yeah, intel atom, just a 'normal' netbook :P |
| 03:41 |
kaeza |
945 doesn't have shaders IIRC |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
laptop/netbook video ain't made for gaming :-) |
| 03:42 |
leo_rockway |
Exio: a few years ago you wouldn't even had been able to start MT... o.o |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: a few years ago MT didn't exist :D |
| 03:42 |
Exio |
i know, i'm going to buy a real computer soon :P |
| 03:42 |
leo_rockway |
the drivers used to be terrible, but they are getting love |
| 03:42 |
Aqua |
What griefing is allowed> |
| 03:42 |
Aqua |
? |
| 03:42 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: well... also that, haha. |
| 03:42 |
kaeza |
lol how old is MT? |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: about two years I thinj |
| 03:42 |
leo_rockway |
less than 2 years? |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
think* |
| 03:42 |
Aqua |
NakedFury: Griefing is allowed? |
| 03:43 |
leo_rockway |
"It has been in development and use since October 2010. " |
| 03:43 |
leo_rockway |
so a bit over 2 years |
| 03:43 |
NakedFury |
you can build protector blocks. but im not sure OldCoders rule on that |
| 03:43 |
Exio |
well, 30~50 FPS in minetest |
| 03:43 |
NakedFury |
and people need interact to play |
| 03:43 |
leo_rockway |
"Minetest is technically simple, stable and portable. It is lightweight enough to run on fairly old hardware. It currently runs playably on a laptop with Intel 945GM graphics. Though, as for the CPU, dualcore is recommended. " |
| 03:44 |
Aqua |
wicked sounds |
| 03:44 |
kizeren |
Aqua that is my favorite server. |
| 03:44 |
Exio |
is possible to have a '3d view' of the player? like f5 in MC |
| 03:44 |
Aqua |
Ummm is there bones? |
| 03:45 |
kizeren |
type /mods |
| 03:45 |
kizeren |
will tell you all installed mods but I think no |
| 03:45 |
leo_rockway |
Exio: not yet. |
| 03:45 |
kaeza |
I downloaded an old Win version the other day |
| 03:45 |
Exio |
oh, thanks |
| 03:45 |
leo_rockway |
Exio: but it has been requested. |
| 03:47 |
Exio |
nice |
| 03:47 |
Exio |
MT is getting good |
| 03:48 |
Aqua |
NakedFury: can i have home privs? |
| 03:48 |
NakedFury |
you cant do it? I thought they are in defaults |
| 03:48 |
Aqua |
it says missing privvs: home |
| 03:48 |
NakedFury |
a moment |
| 03:49 |
Aqua |
this is a really nice server |
| 03:49 |
kizeren |
Yea my Shaun account can't do it either NakedFury |
| 03:49 |
NakedFury |
what is the name? home? |
| 03:49 |
Aqua |
Aqua |
| 03:49 |
Aqua |
theres a teexture bug |
| 03:49 |
NakedFury |
ok try now Aqua |
| 03:50 |
Aqua |
ok it worked thx |
| 03:50 |
NakedFury |
you too Shaun |
| 03:50 |
Exio |
well, i'm getting some "lags", very rare, and i get things like it |
| 03:50 |
Exio |
03:33:06: ACTION[ServerThread]: Player singleplayer tried to access [node under=36,-94,-33 above=36,-93,-33] from too far: d=177.127, max_d=140. ignoring. |
| 03:51 |
kizeren |
Yes I was able to set home |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
I see that from time to time also Exio |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
on my server |
| 03:52 |
Exio |
hm, any ideas about that? |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
and when that happens, it's almost as though the server has "forgotten" where the player is because from that player's perspective, they can't dig/build |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
no idea why |
| 03:53 |
Exio |
yeah, is like a 'freecam' |
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| 04:00 |
Exio |
woo, floating gravel :P |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 04:01 |
Exio |
i never saw floating gravel, floating dirt yes, but never gravel :P |
| 04:01 |
kizeren |
Minetest anything is possible. |
| 04:01 |
ecube |
I did |
| 04:02 |
ecube |
i see it in caves |
| 04:02 |
ecube |
it's technically not floating, though, it's more like... suspended in the ceiling |
| 04:02 |
ecube |
BUT, I did see a 2-big piece of floating gravel once |
| 04:02 |
ecube |
high in the sky |
| 04:03 |
Exio |
well, i saw it in a cave very deep (-540~) |
| 04:04 |
Exio |
now, going to sleep, bye! |
| 04:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/KgFwS.jpg |
| 04:22 |
kizeren |
VanessaE can I get interact on my account on your server? |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
got a forum account? |
| 04:23 |
NakedFury |
any way to clear chat? |
| 04:23 |
kizeren |
this name doesn't my the game account does. |
| 04:23 |
kizeren |
Shaun |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
kizeren: that's fine, as long as you request it on the forum thread for the server. |
| 04:23 |
kizeren |
Okay will do in a moment. |
| 04:24 |
kizeren |
Posted. |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
granted :-_) |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 04:28 |
kizeren |
I saw thanks!. Going to learn about some mesecons fun. |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
have fun :-) |
| 04:30 |
kizeren |
Wow....server is loaded upwith all kinds of prettys in the inventory :) |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
yepperz |
| 04:39 |
kaeza |
what happened V? |
| 04:39 |
kizeren |
ya crashed it :P |
| 04:40 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: you there? |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 04:40 |
kaeza |
server shut down |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
23:39:55: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaE |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
rror: error: ...s/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_movestones/init.lua:141: attemp |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
t to call global 'addPosRule' (a nil value) |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
it restarts automatically. |
| 04:41 |
kaeza |
ohh |
| 04:41 |
kaeza |
sorry |
| 04:41 |
kaeza |
that was me |
| 04:41 |
kizeren |
Yep kaeza crashed it :P |
| 04:41 |
kaeza |
I was playing with movestones |
| 04:42 |
kizeren |
Its not loading for me. |
| 04:42 |
kizeren |
kaeza if you want to think on that. |
| 04:42 |
kaeza |
I'm at black screen |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
hold, I'll report it. |
| 04:42 |
kaeza |
sorry V |
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kizeren |
I am off tomorrow and will have alot more time to mess with it. |
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kaeza |
k |
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VanessaE |
what precisely did you do? |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
your exact series of actions if you can tell me? |
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kaeza |
I just put a switch and two mesecons |
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kaeza |
acting as a movestone rail |
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kaeza |
when I placed the movestone it crashed |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
was the switch already on? |
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kaeza |
yes |
| 04:45 |
VanessaE |
reported. |
| 04:45 |
kaeza |
I won't play again with movestones in the meantime |
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kaeza |
you should consider removing them for now just in ase |
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kaeza |
case* |
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kaeza |
VanessaE: I have left the construction that caused the crash in case you want to see it later |
| 04:48 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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kaeza |
I've put a cobble in place of the movestone |
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kaeza |
it's near my "KAEZA #YOLO" banner |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
I'll take a look later |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
in the meantime, it's still up, so feel free to play normally...just don't use movestones ;-) |
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kaeza |
k |
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kaeza |
note taken |
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kaeza |
and sowwy |
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VanessaE |
it's okay |
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kaeza |
k people, gtg. See you later kizeren, VanessaE, ecube |
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kaeza |
good night |
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ecube |
movestones do crashing again? |
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VanessaE |
night all. |
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Zeg9 |
Hello there |
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celeron55 |
paroneayea: oh god what a backlog... you're lucky i was bored enough to scroll that far; anyway - why do you ask (about js bombers)? |
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GIT: dannydark (DannyDark) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fixed u64 ambiguous symbol error 40dac4cde4 2012-12-19T23:53:25-08:00 |
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yxkvast |
Hi, i have a problem with starting up minetest. i dont have any glx support. so i got the idea of downloading (7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu2 (libegl1-mesa).). but my computer say that that i need to install packages from unreliable sources to do that, and the download is canceled. |
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yxkvast |
what to do now? |
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* Calinou |
switched to firefox |
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Calinou |
looks like it is actually faster than chromium for loading pages ;-; |
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KittenGNU |
Hi. |
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KikaRz |
Hi there! |
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KikaRz |
why my XChat reseted? |
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KikaRz |
to the predefinitions |
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KikaRz |
the type of letter is again with terminal or idk. |
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KikaRz |
and the nick name to enter, was as my windows nick |
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Calinou |
running xchat as root == bad |
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Calinou |
:> |
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KikaRz |
Hi people |
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KikaRz |
what you going to do on this fabulous day? First, ops. what you going to do ? (VanessaE and marktraceur) |
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iqualfragile |
Calinou: who does that? |
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iqualfragile |
who runs anything as root? |
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KikaRz |
I do :) |
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Calinou |
iqualfragile: red eclipse server admins |
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iqualfragile |
dear god… |
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iqualfragile |
thats so unsafe |
| 11:33 |
iqualfragile |
well… i guess when using apparmor or stuff its actualy not that bad to run stuff as root |
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Calinou |
apparmor is for fedora users |
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RagnarLaud |
hi |
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RagnarLaud |
Merry Christmas to all! |
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RagnarLaud |
!tw shibby2142 |
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Minetest-tan |
@IIJERiiCHOII that pen is lonely (@shibby2142) |
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RagnarLaud |
hi moltenbot |
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RagnarLaud |
hi minetest-tan |
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Minetest-tan |
Hey RagnarLaud! |
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RagnarLaud |
!g similar:bugs3.com |
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Minetest-tan |
RagnarLaud: http://www.webstatsdomain.com/domains/bugs3.com/ |
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RagnarLaud |
hi Zeg9 |
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Zeg9 |
Hi |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/YU5be.jpg |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/CsTSx.jpg |
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jordan4ibanez |
I have a series of super modded survival i'm making later :D |
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RagnarLaud |
minecraft huh... :/ |
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jordan4ibanez |
I'll come back to minetest when it's improved don't worry |
| 12:31 |
RagnarLaud |
oh...i thought you made a 99.9% minetest-like mod for minetest :( |
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Zeg9 |
minetest-like mod for minetest ? |
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RagnarLaud |
!g byethost |
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Minetest-tan |
RagnarLaud: http://byethost.com/ |
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Zeg9 |
Did you mean minecraft-like ? |
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RagnarLaud |
yeah |
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RagnarLaud |
yeah yeah sorry... :D |
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RagnarLaud |
yo Calinou |
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RagnarLaud |
hows it hanging_ |
| 12:37 |
RagnarLaud |
? |
| 12:37 |
Calinou |
hi |
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RagnarLaud |
motherf***king answer my motherf***king question you motherf***ker! |
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RagnarLaud |
:D |
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Zeg9 |
leet time |
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RagnarLaud |
too much? |
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Zeg9 |
Yep |
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Zeg9 |
I was only to notice it |
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davidpace |
Hi All |
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Zeg9 |
Hi |
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RagnarLaud |
hi davidpace |
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RagnarLaud |
hi john_minetest |
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RagnarLaud |
john_minetest help me |
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RagnarLaud |
Zeg9 is afk i think |
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RagnarLaud |
wait no, he isnt |
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* Zeg9 |
will be back in 2 hours |
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iqualfragile |
Calinou: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/73 |
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moltenbot |
iqualfragile's link: Fix default_grass_side, improve dirt by iqualfragile ? Pull Request #73 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
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iqualfragile |
well, read it ^^ |
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iqualfragile |
it just fixes two textures |
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iqualfragile |
ah, in minetest you can connect two textures |
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iqualfragile |
that just lays one texture under the other one and uses the resulting texture |
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iqualfragile |
grass allready joins those two textures |
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iqualfragile |
but the "grass_side" texture had no transparency so the dirt-texture was not used |
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iqualfragile |
so i removed that |
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iqualfragile |
the transparency is now filled with default_dirt |
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jordan4ibanez |
i wish we could give nodes a model |
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paroneayea |
celeron55: ah, a friend and I played a lot of minebombers when I was a kid. |
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artur99 |
there is a type of wall: an cube, witch looks like chess |
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artur99 |
how to make it |
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artur99 |
? |
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RagnarLaud |
i need help in html! |
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RagnarLaud |
who ever will help a 13 year old on christmas! |
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RagnarLaud |
srsly? |
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RagnarLaud |
no one? |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://www.knowitall.org/ |
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moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Welcome to Knowitall.org |
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jordan4ibanez |
There is where you will learn html! |
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VanessaE |
morning all. |
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Octupus |
Hi |
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VanessaE |
morning Octupus |
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Octupus |
:) |
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jordan4ibanez |
the way trains need to work is that there needs to be 2 bogies with a train mounted on top, then the yaw of the train is calculated between the bogies, and since minetest has no way of doing that i cannot create trains |
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Octupus |
hello jojoa1997 |
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Octupus |
hi artur99 |
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artur99 |
hi |
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Octupus |
hi jojoa1997_ |
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jojoa1997_ |
hi |
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Octupus |
jojoa1997_: i saw your requests it is being takin under consideration |
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jojoa1997_ |
? |
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RagnarLaud |
hi jojoa1997 |
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RagnarLaud |
remember me? |
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RagnarLaud |
the "trojan" |
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RagnarLaud |
xD |
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RagnarLaud |
did you ACTUALLY belive that crap? |
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RagnarLaud |
LOL |
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Octupus |
jojoa1997_: boats |
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RagnarLaud |
hvg wasnt High Voltage Guard, it was HVGaming |
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RagnarLaud |
LOL |
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RagnarLaud |
hi octupus |
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Octupus |
hi RagnarLaud |
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RagnarLaud |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com |
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moltenbot |
RagnarLaud's link: .:HVGaming:. |
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RagnarLaud |
my website |
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RagnarLaud |
YAY |
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RagnarLaud |
not ready yet tho |
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jojoa1997 |
yay there is boats |
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* VanessaE |
pokes jojoa1997 |
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Octupus |
jojoa1997: will be |
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jojoa1997 |
could someone make a survival server using the realtest mod |
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jojoa1997 |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671 |
| 14:32 |
moltenbot |
jojoa1997's link: [Game] The RealTest Game [realtest] (Page 1) - Minetest Games - Minetest Forums |
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Calinou |
<RagnarLaud> i need help in html! |
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Calinou |
html is easy like hell |
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Octupus |
Calinou,css is a bit confusing |
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Calinou |
+1 |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
still easy |
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jordan4ibanez |
I have good news, i have discovered an easier way to calculate train bogie paths on rails |
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jordan4ibanez |
it does: left<right, forward>backwards, left-right<forward-backward |
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artur99 |
what is this... Crafting is: |
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artur99 |
0 0 0 |
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artur99 |
s s 0 |
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artur99 |
s s 0 |
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artur99 |
where 0=nothing s=stick |
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artur99 |
what is that? |
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artur99 |
??? |
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artur99 |
aaa |
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iqualfragile |
what are you talking about? |
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artur99 |
when i mouseover it, apears nothing |
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moltenbot |
john_minetest's link: sticks+ 0.1 (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
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artur99 |
and how to transform it? |
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artur99 |
after crafting there apears something like a spider |
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RagnarLaud |
hi john?minetest |
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RagnarLaud |
john_minetest * |
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RagnarLaud |
im still getting used to the american keyboard settings :D |
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jojoa1997 |
calinue can you somehow change the recipe for horizontal panals on your stair mod cause they overide the pressure plates with the meaecon mod |
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RagnarLaud |
jojoa1997 |
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RagnarLaud |
http://hvgaming.bugs3.com |
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moltenbot |
RagnarLaud's link: .:HVGaming:. |
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* jojoa1997_ |
test signal |
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* john_minetest |
is tired but wants to get linu |
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* john_minetest |
is tired but wants to get linux on qemu to run* |
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jojoa1997_ |
can anyone run a survival server that used the realtest mod |
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Calinou |
john_minetest: real men use virtualbox! |
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RealBadAngel |
he should say: virtual box runnin on linux microwave owen |
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RealBadAngel |
thats hardcore |
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RealBadAngel |
terminal of course made in l33t on timer disply |
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Calinou |
real men don't live in the sea |
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Calinou |
16:34 here |
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celeron55 |
17:39 |
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celeron55 |
i'm ahead of everyone |
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celeron55 |
actually, :34 |
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devlab |
hello, |
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* Calinou |
commits to github "in 5 minutes" |
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Calinou |
that always happens :> |
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thexyz |
19:34 |
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RealBadAngel |
16:34 |
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devlab |
my pc's time also says 17:35 as 05:35PM |
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celeron55 |
jin_xi probably went to take his night's sleep sleep up there |
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celeron55 |
because .ch |
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artur99 |
how to make papyrus seeds? |
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VanessaE |
in the default game, papyrus doesn't use seeds. |
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Calinou |
you can't, you have to collect papyrus first |
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Calinou |
and it doesn't grow too :/ |
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artur99 |
no? |
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artur99 |
why? |
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VanessaE |
it never has. |
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VanessaE |
well certainly not in recent memory |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
want it to grow, you probably need nature_pack |
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VanessaE |
hey Jordach |
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Jordach |
hello VanessaE |
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artur99 |
should i rename the nature pack mod? |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
why would you? |
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VanessaE |
it should just be nature_pack if it isn't already |
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artur99 |
aha |
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artur99 |
the name is : neko259-nature-0d564c52a457 |
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VanessaE |
well |
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VanessaE |
it's a modpack |
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VanessaE |
so you don't really need to rename it |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
it'll work fine as-is, but the proper name is nature_pack |
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neko259 |
It's because you download tip revision of mercurial. |
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VanessaE |
john_minetest: modify the timber mod to do that if it doesn't already |
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Zeg9 |
Hi there |
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neko259 |
I'm not making download archives because it's easier to create a tag. |
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VanessaE |
hi zeg9 |
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artur99 |
and where to put it? |
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artur99 |
in mods? |
| 16:01 |
VanessaE |
neko259: I even dispensed with that and just always expect users to use latest git of my mods :-) |
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VanessaE |
artur99: yes |
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VanessaE |
just copy the folder to <minetestfolder>/mods/minetest |
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neko259 |
VanessaE: I often commit bad changes, so I don't expect users to check the latest revision. And it's too difficult to check version. |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
true |
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VanessaE |
of course I just never ever EVER makde bad commits. Impossible. ;-) |
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artur99 |
mod erorr |
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artur99 |
failed to load and run |
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VanessaE |
artur99: use a pastebin service, give us the text from the black terminal window. |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
it'll have two lines that say something like "start of lua error" and "end of.." |
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Calinou |
john_minetest: make a pull request with these changes |
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Calinou |
and it'll probably be merged :P |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: half wall slabs plz? :-) |
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harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAbMxZeaIes |
| 16:07 |
moltenbot |
harrison's link: AV2AK - YouTube |
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artur99 |
18:02:35: ERROR[main]: ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Users\artur99.admin-PC\Desktop\minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\neko259-nature-0d564c52a457\init.lua |
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VanessaE |
artur99: we need more |
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artur99 |
ok |
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artur99 |
Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (Build 7600) Using renderer: OpenGL 3.2.9262 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. GLSL version: 1.5 Resizing window (800 600) Loaded texture: C:/Users/artur99.admin-PC/Desktop/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win 32/textures/base/pack/menubg.png Loaded texture: C:/Users/artur99.admin-PC/Desktop/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566 |
| 16:10 |
VanessaE |
no |
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VanessaE |
use a pastebin service |
| 16:10 |
VanessaE |
give us the entire screenful, there will be other "ERROR" lines |
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artur99 |
i cant write more here |
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artur99 |
in irc |
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VanessaE |
maybe stuff mentioning dependency problems, or something referencing 'nil value' or whjatever |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
no, not here. |
| 16:11 |
artur99 |
Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (Build 7600) Using renderer: OpenGL 3.2.9262 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. GLSL version: 1.5 Resizing window (800 600) Loaded texture: C:/Users/artur99.admin-PC/Desktop/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win 32/textures/base/pack/menubg.png |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
you must use a pastebin, such as pastebin.com |
| 16:11 |
artur99 |
Loaded texture: C:/Users/artur99.admin-PC/Desktop/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win 32/textures/base/pack/menulogo.png 18:09:44: ERROR[main]: Error loading mod "neko259-nature-0d564c52a457": modname does not follow naming conventions: Only chararacters [a-z0-9_] are allowed. 18:09:44: ERROR[main]: Server: Failed to load and run C:\Users\artur99.admin-PC\ Desktop\minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\neko259-nature-0d5 |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
NO! |
| 16:11 |
artur99 |
18:09:44: ERROR[main]: ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Users\artur99.admin-P C\Desktop\minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\neko259-nature-0 d564c52a457\init.lua |
| 16:11 |
artur99 |
all |
| 16:11 |
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artur99 was kicked by VanessaE: I said use a pastebin |
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| 16:11 |
harrison |
harrison is the best. true or false? discuss. |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
I don't even know who harrison is :-) |
| 16:12 |
Jordach |
This sentance is neither true or false. |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: so it's a definite maybe? ;-) |
| 16:12 |
artur99 |
http://pastebin.com/KV0sGuAk |
| 16:12 |
moltenbot |
artur99's link: Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (Build 7600 - Pastebin.com |
| 16:12 |
mauvebic |
the guy who did muppets? |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: that's henson :-) |
| 16:13 |
artur99 |
is that good? |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
artur99: paste the rest there also. everything that was below line 19. |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
ohwait |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
there it is |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
rename nature pack to get rid of the dashes. |
| 16:13 |
artur99 |
thats all |
| 16:13 |
artur99 |
i dont have more |
| 16:13 |
Calinou |
why do you have a . in your username and a space? |
| 16:13 |
Calinou |
nevermind about space |
| 16:13 |
Calinou |
also, nice ultimate you have there :P |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
artur99: rename nature pack to just nature_pack then |
| 16:14 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: paste.ubuntu.com loads faster and has no ads, it should be used as often as possible |
| 16:14 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
(kinda stupid that you can't have a dash) |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I never have problems with pastebin.com |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
I've used it for years |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
ads? what ads? |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
I don't see any ads :-) |
| 16:15 |
artur99 |
http://pastebin.com/3W3Saxpx |
| 16:15 |
moltenbot |
artur99's link: Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (Build 7600 - Pastebin.com |
| 16:15 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: pastebin has ads and takes forever to load |
| 16:15 |
Calinou |
and has occasional captchas |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
artur99: you are not listening - I said twice to rename the modpack to get rid of the dashes. |
| 16:15 |
Calinou |
also the "recent pastes" link points to links that are far from safe :P |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: wow, guess I've gotten used to the web sans ads :-) |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
AdblockPlus ftw :-) |
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Calinou |
VanessaE: half wall slabs? panels? |
| 16:16 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
not everyone uses adblock :P |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: half-thickness |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
btw I switched to firefox, just saying |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: like the half-thick wall lights in homedecor |
| 16:16 |
artur99 |
i renamed it |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
calinou fails |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
quarter slabs, but on walls? |
| 16:17 |
artur99 |
"artur99.admin-PC\Desktop\minetest-0. 4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\nature_pack\init.lua" |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
artur99: it looks like you did not download the whole file, there shouldn't BE an init.lua at all |
| 16:17 |
artur99 |
nature_pack |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
artur99: or you didn't copy the entire folder |
| 16:17 |
artur99 |
i copied the entire folder |
| 16:17 |
artur99 |
i must go |
| 16:17 |
artur99 |
bye |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: half-slabs = quarter nodes, e.g. {-0.5, -0.5, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5} |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
so yeah I guess you called them quarter slabs :-) |
| 16:19 |
VanessaE |
hi PilzAdam |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
k then :> |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
*opens init.lua* |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: VanessaE (Vanessa Ezekowitz) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Changed Mese to act like an object cut out of a block of stone, rather than an 1bf62bbad4 2012-12-18T08:56:23-08:00 |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
WOO!! |
| 16:23 |
thexyz |
huh, finally |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: well, your idea was an epic fail. :-) I'm now running the server with OldCoder's build settings, just to see what changes. |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
done -- prepare to make good-looking circles :D |
| 16:24 |
hmmmm |
my idea? |
| 16:24 |
hmmmm |
what you mean deleting the logs? |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: yeah, about seeing if nukign that gazonga log file helps. |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
in fact, it made it worse :-) |
| 16:24 |
neko259 |
artur99: You just had to rename the folder. |
| 16:24 |
hmmmm |
it didn't make it worse, that's not possible |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
the server was, get this, sucking 135% CPU (so I get one core plus 35% of another) |
| 16:24 |
hmmmm |
alright |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
before it was 100-105% |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
when it deadlocked I mean :-) |
| 16:25 |
hmmmm |
that _can_ easily happen |
| 16:25 |
neko259 |
I think I have to start making download zips, the users can't even rename the mod directory :D |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
neko259: I know, irritating isn't it? :-/ |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
neko259: make a modpack |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
if you don't know how to rename a file/folder, should you really even be using a computer? |
| 16:25 |
hmmmm |
something in ServerThread was taking up 100% cpu, and then EmergeThread was running |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
with a single mod, that works too |
| 16:25 |
hmmmm |
apparently |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: it is. |
| 16:25 |
Jordach |
neko259, all N0085 4r3 liek 7#15 |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
hmmmm: this means a gentoo user is griefing on your server... |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: I already killed the log from that last run, but Emergethread was running normally |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
isn't "emerge" a command about package management on gentoo? |
| 16:26 |
hmmmm |
yeah it is, but it's also the name for the thing that generates blocks, grabs them from disk, or from memory |
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neko259 |
Calinou: I have a modpack already. |
| 16:27 |
NakedFury |
steam beta for linux users open |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
steam-- |
| 16:28 |
NakedFury |
steam is just like gamestop shop but without never doing discounts and having stuff perpetually stuck at high prices |
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| 16:30 |
Calinou |
new stairs+ release |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: real friends use linux! |
| 16:30 |
STHGOM |
:P |
| 16:30 |
STHGOM |
lots bad stuff |
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jojoa1997 |
not all real friends |
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* jojoa1997 |
xough cough |
| 16:33 |
STHGOM |
brb |
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| 16:35 |
Zeg9 |
Steam for linux is only for debian-based distributions? |
| 16:35 |
devlab |
atm |
| 16:35 |
devlab |
, |
| 16:35 |
devlab |
yes |
| 16:36 |
devlab |
*facepalm* |
| 16:36 |
Zeg9 |
Well, there is still alien... |
| 16:36 |
Zeg9 |
and dpkg can also be installed on other distros :') |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
devlab: why facepalm? :D |
| 16:37 |
Zeg9 |
You will notice they say: Grab ubuntu 12.04 and NOT 12.10 |
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| 16:37 |
STHGOM |
hey does anyone have a rasberry pi? |
| 16:37 |
Zeg9 |
facepalm because they say "linux" but it is "ubuntu" |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
no, silicon tastes horrible |
| 16:38 |
STHGOM |
lol |
| 16:38 |
STHGOM |
have you tried it? |
| 16:41 |
Zeg9 |
o_o steam on linux is actually an apt repository |
| 16:41 |
Zeg9 |
are they fucking kidding us? |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
what's wrong with apt? |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
everyone can run that anymore |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
(except maybe gentoo ;-) ) |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
apt ftw! |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
Apt is Your Friendâ„¢ |
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| 16:42 |
Calinou |
apt-get moo |
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Zeg9 |
lol arial |
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| 16:52 |
Zeg9 |
Steam works in arch linux |
| 16:52 |
Zeg9 |
(news guy) |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: the server/map loading is hung up again, and the server is spinning at about 60% CPU. |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, DANGER CLOSE! |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
the client shows a fairly continuous stream of packets incoming, but they're not as fast as usual |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
(maybe 5/second) |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
have you tried turning it on and off again? |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
Zeg9: what's wrong with "linux" part? it works flawlessly on gentoo for me |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
except that NOGAEMS thing |
| 16:54 |
Zeg9 |
Onlt that they only provide a .deb package, but finally it works |
| 16:54 |
Zeg9 |
I was shouting for nothing, sorry |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
Zeg9: alien. |
| 16:55 |
Zeg9 |
There is actually an AUR package |
| 16:55 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: ar |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
that too |
| 16:55 |
Zeg9 |
And, the APT repository I saw was actually an option/shortcut I think |
| 16:57 |
Zeg9 |
john_minetest don't worry most my friends are like this |
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| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
hey rubenwardy. |
| 16:59 |
STHGOM |
Hello! |
| 17:00 |
rubenwardy |
hi |
| 17:00 |
Zeg9 |
My brother hates windows |
| 17:00 |
Zeg9 |
XD |
| 17:01 |
Zeg9 |
Babylon toolbar? |
| 17:01 |
Zeg9 |
In my school they installed babylon, then they'll teach us not to get viruses and stuff... |
| 17:02 |
Zeg9 |
lol steam crashed |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
Zeg9, good thing i only download things that i actually need, no WANT |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
not |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
because i frequently install xp home ed for people with those machines, and my backup cds break from huge amounts of use, i have to reburn them, which damages the .iso |
| 17:04 |
Zeg9 |
What do you think about window$ 8 ? |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
its good |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
(much faster than 7 is) |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
(7 drains all my availible ram, 8 does not) |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, my screen is not very big |
| 17:06 |
Zeg9 |
Internet explorer icon: Is it the new background ? oh no, it's the shortcut |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
1280x1024 |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
even the default font i struggle to read at times |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
(8 solves this with larger default sizes) |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, look at apple |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
they beat them to it. |
| 17:08 |
* Zeg9 |
hates apple too |
| 17:09 |
kizeren |
Windows 8 seems to me like they are trying to compete with andriod.....but why put it on Desktops/laptops....??? |
| 17:10 |
Exio |
is someone here playing in a netbook? just for asking what mods/game are they using |
| 17:10 |
Zeg9 |
I heard people needs to pay for a start menu, or the media player |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: I am beginning to think I have a corrupted map :-( |
| 17:11 |
Jordach |
well, i did hear that the mac eula allows copying and pirating |
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moltenbot |
john_minetest's link: Downloads Tiny Core Linux |
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Zeg9 |
pacman -Syu time |
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| 17:18 |
hmmmm |
corrupted map? |
| 17:18 |
hmmmm |
how so |
| 17:18 |
hmmmm |
how far out are you in the map? |
| 17:19 |
hmmmm |
having a corrupted map wouldn't lead to haltups like you're saying though, i don't think |
| 17:19 |
hmmmm |
it could depending on *what way* it's corrupted |
| 17:20 |
hmmmm |
i'm sure a screwed up piece of data for a given block would wreak havok when you tried to deserialize it - like maybe it'd try to add 592345390 ABMs |
| 17:21 |
jojoa1997 |
i could not find anything in the forums |
| 17:21 |
rubenwardy1 |
Bloody hell: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/punbb/viewforum.php?id=2 |
| 17:21 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy1's link: General Discussion (Page 1) -- Minetest Test Forum |
| 17:21 |
jojoa1997 |
wrong query |
| 17:22 |
NakedFury |
you need a bot detector' |
| 17:22 |
hmmmm |
ruben, i guess they want you to get an all in one mortgage cost loan |
| 17:22 |
jojoa1997 |
me |
| 17:23 |
jojoa1997 |
right next to the backspace |
| 17:23 |
jojoa1997 |
= backspace |
| 17:23 |
jojoa1997 |
1234567890-=backspace |
| 17:24 |
jojoa1997 |
that is the layout |
| 17:24 |
jojoa1997 |
did anyone answer to my question about someone making a realtest server |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
do it |
| 17:24 |
jojoa1997 |
ah |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
we're not your free slaves :P |
| 17:24 |
jojoa1997 |
do what |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
the server |
| 17:25 |
jojoa1997 |
i cant host a server |
| 17:25 |
jojoa1997 |
that is why |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
then learn how to |
| 17:26 |
jojoa1997 |
i mean even if i knew i could not |
| 17:26 |
jojoa1997 |
i have parents |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
and? |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
since when you have to be orphan to host:P |
| 17:28 |
mauvebic |
run the server and if your parents ask about bandwith just say pron |
| 17:28 |
mauvebic |
:p |
| 17:28 |
jojoa1997 |
complicated rules with parents and would be on randomly |
| 17:29 |
Zeg9 |
Then they'll install a proxy and pron won't work anymore </geek parents> |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
since when geek^Wnerd parents exist |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
"geek" is a term for "facebook and twitter and linkedin and pinterest user" |
| 17:29 |
jojoa1997 |
my mom is very pc literate thank you |
| 17:30 |
mauvebic |
geek didn't mean that in my time since none of those existed |
| 17:30 |
Zeg9 |
This is what geek means in france, not sure in other countries |
| 17:30 |
jojoa1997 |
it would be the most unreliable server ever |
| 17:30 |
kizeren |
it is amazing how much gekk and nerd have changed over the years. |
| 17:30 |
kizeren |
*geek |
| 17:30 |
Zeg9 |
jojoa, you can also pay a VPS |
| 17:30 |
mauvebic |
for us, you were a geek if you played MUDs lol |
| 17:31 |
mauvebic |
then there was this telnet game called mtrek lol |
| 17:31 |
kizeren |
Yep! |
| 17:31 |
Zeg9 |
jojoa1997; or if you have a wii or ps3, host on it, if you have some usb disk for ram and stuff |
| 17:31 |
jojoa1997 |
dont have allowence |
| 17:31 |
jojoa1997 |
dont have those either |
| 17:31 |
Zeg9 |
jojoa, why did you ask you dumbass |
| 17:32 |
jojoa1997 |
i thought maybe someone might like the idea |
| 17:32 |
kizeren |
seems like you have other things to worry about then worrying about a test server for minetest. |
| 17:32 |
mauvebic |
ironically ... it wouldn't be that difficult to code a MUD to work within minetest on one of those computer mods (though who would want to?) |
| 17:32 |
jojoa1997 |
. |
| 17:32 |
jojoa1997 |
._. |
| 17:33 |
Zeg9 |
Or make a mud that actually connects to minetest servers... |
| 17:33 |
Zeg9 |
harder... |
| 17:33 |
Zeg9 |
That could be possible with 2D air view (df-like) |
| 17:33 |
mauvebic |
well before doing MUDs we should prolly find ways to display pages and paragraphs of text lol |
| 17:34 |
mauvebic |
RPGs and MUDs both have lots of storytellin' |
| 17:34 |
kizeren |
how would you display the "old_style_npc" from a mud in minetest :) |
| 17:35 |
mauvebic |
display.. i thought muds were all text? or did these things live on longer than i thought? |
| 17:36 |
kizeren |
Yea they are still there. |
| 17:37 |
kizeren |
Even writting in java to have the normal "txt" view and a grphical view in your browser. |
| 17:37 |
mauvebic |
must be slower than the originals lol |
| 17:37 |
kizeren |
probably |
| 17:38 |
mauvebic |
anything worth doing in Java is worth doing properly lol |
| 17:38 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'm not entirely sure that's true.... |
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mauvebic |
well for a language that was sposed to be revolutionary, it didn't catch on much beyond their core group of admirers |
| 17:40 |
* kizeren |
away |
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| 17:41 |
mauvebic |
i guess its just too different from everything else ive learned |
| 17:41 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, compiling is a shit-hole in c++ |
| 17:41 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: No, I mean, I think Java programmers might do some things that other programmers would never do (on account of those pesky thoughts we have) |
| 17:41 |
mauvebic |
C++ drives me nuts with those acronymed prefixes that tell you nothing |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
It's better we have realistic graphics irc... |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
irl* |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
... |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
No joke about that typo lol |
| 17:42 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: If you're looking for a story in an MMORPG, you're playing the wrong genre. RPG means you make your own story! :) |
| 17:44 |
mauvebic |
php its the dollar signs that drives me nuts, i bet most programmers can't see the '4' key anymore lol |
| 17:44 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: I'd argue it's not, but you could equally make the argument that it is. |
| 17:45 |
mauvebic |
well php is prolly the easiest to setup a dynamic website quick'n'dirty |
| 17:45 |
mauvebic |
but, also the easiest to poke holes in it |
| 17:46 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'd say it depends on the languages with which you're comfortable....I could write a JS website faster than I could write a PHP website, depending on the function |
| 17:46 |
marktraceur |
On average I'd say JS edges out PHP. |
| 17:47 |
mauvebic |
again, in my day, JS and PHP were in seperate categories |
| 17:47 |
mauvebic |
PHP served the data, JS formatted it |
| 17:47 |
marktraceur |
Of course, if you're writing it quick'n'dirty, that seems....wrong. |
| 17:47 |
mauvebic |
well, if youre writing a fansite, do you really need a cart and a gift shop with shitty printed tshirts? lol |
| 17:48 |
mauvebic |
thats what i mean by quick'n'dirty lol |
| 17:48 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: If I'm writing a fansite, something is very wrong. |
| 17:48 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But I didn't mean "if you aren't adding features...", I meant, "if you aren't writing it correctly...". |
| 17:49 |
mauvebic |
fansites, when they were dominant, offerred inifintely more insight than wikipedia on some topics |
| 17:50 |
thexyz |
how should they look? |
| 17:50 |
mauvebic |
yeah but donate for what? new forum software, a central game server, features? |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
someone who codes full time |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
:D |
| 17:51 |
marktraceur |
That would be cool. |
| 17:51 |
* marktraceur |
points at celeron55 |
| 17:51 |
marktraceur |
You sir! |
| 17:51 |
mauvebic |
one idea: setup a kickstarter and pay C++ devs for certain features? |
| 17:51 |
thexyz |
yeah... features... http://www.indiegogo.com/free-game-modding |
| 17:51 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Free Game Modding | Indiegogo |
| 17:51 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I may have done it wrong, but even my initial round of "Hey here's this idea I'll help make this game better" didn't get anything. |
| 17:51 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Thanks for the link :) |
| 17:52 |
* Zeg9 |
would like to have a minetest t-shirt |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
Taoki was kind enough to pitch in, but meh. |
| 17:53 |
marktraceur |
I think there needs to be a more concentrated press effort, along with a wider variety of work (that will appeal to more people), and maybe more direct marketing to people who use competing software. Just a thought. |
| 17:53 |
marktraceur |
In any case, having a bit saved up to start such an effort, maybe to show that the concept works, would be a good idea. Anyone want to register a non-profit for this? :) |
| 17:55 |
mauvebic |
another idea: find a way to print worlds/creations to t-shirts, i bet that would go fast |
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marktraceur |
Might be more asspensive. I'd go with printing some beautiful landscapes or creations en masse, then maybe offer group printing of 20 shirts for custom designs. Of course, people will just do it themselves for the most part. |
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| 17:58 |
analphabet |
Where's the minetest dev server gone? |
| 17:58 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: Motive? You mean idea? |
| 17:58 |
analphabet |
john_minetest: I'd strip out the "Welcome." |
| 17:58 |
analphabet |
marktraceur: oh, hey! |
| 17:58 |
mauvebic |
well you really should put the designs to a vote to see which are more likely to sell before getting them printed |
| 17:59 |
marktraceur |
analphabet: Gasp! |
| 17:59 |
analphabet |
hehe |
| 17:59 |
marktraceur |
analphabet: You're just determined to find all my channels, eh? What brings you in? |
| 17:59 |
analphabet |
minetest, obviously (I wasn't looking for you...) |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
analphabet: I guess I meant what brought you to minetest :) |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
analphabet: In any case, the dev server may have gone offline. You'd have to ask celeron55. |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: "motif" is the word we use, I think. But it's not frequent. |
| 18:01 |
analphabet |
mh, what brought me to minetest? i dunno. |
| 18:02 |
NakedFury |
the prospect of future awesomeness? |
| 18:02 |
analphabet |
it's like asking: what brought me to programming?, I really have no memory, actually ... |
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analphabet |
NakedFury: might be, it's quite awesome already! |
| 18:02 |
analphabet |
I just saw the new release |
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| 18:03 |
NakedFury |
but it will still be more awesome\ |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
runs slower with swrast(R) |
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| 18:03 |
analphabet |
and reading through the changelog i really wanted to checkout those animated 3D players |
| 18:04 |
analphabet |
marktraceur: you're not running a server by any chance? |
| 18:04 |
marktraceur |
analphabet: I am, but I can't give you privs (at work) and there may not be people on it. It's at minetest.libreplanet.org port 30000, though. |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
analphabet: run two clients :D |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
games.libreplanet.org port 30000 |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
^ this, |
| 18:05 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Both work, they point to the same machine currently |
| 18:05 |
analphabet |
Calinou: yea i thought about running two clients but i was afraid of my computer going down... |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
why would it |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
even my netbook can handle that :P |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
very slow though |
| 18:05 |
analphabet |
:) |
| 18:06 |
analphabet |
well, I'm using my fridge apparently... ;) |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: you should maybe install moreblocks and stairsplus |
| 18:07 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: IIRC moreblocks seemed pretty frivolous to me, and I don't recall seeing anything super-important in stairs+ either |
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NakedFury |
the animated character moves even when still |
| 18:07 |
NakedFury |
as if he was breathing |
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| 18:07 |
marktraceur |
You know me, I'm exacting in my mod selection :) |
| 18:07 |
mauvebic |
frivolous? you havent seen all the crap my wife made me add lol |
| 18:08 |
* Calinou |
goes to google translate |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 18:08 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I've said many times that I'm receptive to suggestions, but nobody's suggested much yet (well, darkrose keeps asking for tricorders, and I keep meaning to add them, but we're both half-joking) |
| 18:09 |
marktraceur |
There's also consistent requests for carts, mobs, and I'm interested in boats. I just need to find time (HA) to test them and see if anything needs patching up. |
| 18:09 |
mauvebic |
lol tricorders lol |
| 18:09 |
mauvebic |
can we attach formspecs to tools? |
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marktraceur |
I doubt it....you'd need to make it a detached inventory, probably. |
| 18:10 |
analphabet |
i must say: |
| 18:10 |
analphabet |
THIS IS AWESOME! |
| 18:10 |
mauvebic |
meh, i prefer to keep the inventory as clean and minimal as possible |
| 18:10 |
mauvebic |
i tried adding *all* my gui's to it, and it made me want to retch lol |
| 18:12 |
analphabet |
this project has evolved so much since I last checked thoroughly |
| 18:12 |
rubenwardy |
tractors for minetest... |
| 18:12 |
mauvebic |
tractors? see ufos |
| 18:12 |
marktraceur |
analphabet: Setting the community loose with the modding API really helped :) |
| 18:12 |
marktraceur |
Actually, VanessaE, is your server still up? analphabet might like to see the wide range of mods you have there. |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
no, I took it down about an hour ago. |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
it's having major mapgen problems. |
| 18:13 |
marktraceur |
Damn shame. |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
it's not off permanently though |
| 18:13 |
mauvebic |
mapgen has bugs |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
just until I solve the problem. |
| 18:14 |
mauvebic |
whenever i make very large shapes (spheres, wtv) the mapgen kicks in, punches holes (caves) and dumps dirt and trees on top |
| 18:14 |
sokomine |
hi |
| 18:14 |
mauvebic |
dunno if its related |
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| 18:15 |
sokomine |
mauvebic: i'd like formspecs for npc. but that seems more complicated...especially if the server has to send individual formspecs to players |
| 18:15 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Do you make them so they reach into blocks you haven't explored yet? |
| 18:16 |
mauvebic |
probably with radii of 100,200,300 |
| 18:16 |
marktraceur |
Yeah that might do it. |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
OMFG |
| 18:16 |
mauvebic |
but at y = +5k? |
| 18:16 |
mauvebic |
how would the edges even reconcile lol |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
Minecraft 1.5 Texture Format: IT'S THE GODDAMN SAME AS Minetest |
| 18:16 |
* Jordach |
rages |
| 18:16 |
Exio |
i saw it |
| 18:16 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Doesn't matter--if some freak mountain became that high, I'd expect there to be caves in it |
| 18:16 |
sokomine |
any progress on the mapgen problem, vanessa? can you pinpoint it to c++ or lua? |
| 18:16 |
Exio |
and server-side mod api Jordach |
| 18:17 |
* Jordach |
rages again |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: there is a large wood building which is floating near glass domes, is this normal? /P |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
:P* |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
on your server |
| 18:17 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery |
| 18:17 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: I am completely clueless at this point :-( |
| 18:17 |
sokomine |
mauvebic: yes. those holes are very annoying. i call it "griefed by mapgen". happened to my minecraft classic structures and is one of the major reasons why i didn't post my converter/importer yet |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, its related to the amount of new chunks being made |
| 18:18 |
mauvebic |
weather its considered a bug or not - its new behaviour lol |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
* PilzAdam has quit (Quit: PilzAdam.shutdown()) - wtf |
| 18:18 |
mauvebic |
that map i posted long time ago, with the big spheres - didn't do that |
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marktraceur |
Calinou: Um, so TheLastProject kind of burned a lot of stuff down. |
| 18:18 |
markveidemanis |
2D player skins? |
| 18:19 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: On the east-west road you'll find a little hut with signs that say "On 2012-12-XX, TLP burned down parts of the world." and explains further. |
| 18:19 |
sokomine |
vanessa: mapgen (on_generated) without any mods took significant time with 0.4.x. like 500 ms. all the rest was much faster |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: nothing in my world uses on_generated (to my knowledge); there are several ores being generated, and quite a lot of abm activity, but the server normally only uses ~15% CPU in even the busiest parts, except when it starts to hang for no apparent reason :( |
| 18:21 |
sokomine |
hm. good for the minecraft players if they get a better modding api. when i searched for ways to do things it turned out to be rather difficult. and those patches are complicated as well. good that it learns from minetest which does this way better! |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
when players are actively building, it seems to rise to around 35-40% but even that's highly variable |
| 18:21 |
markveidemanis |
any links to 2d player skins? |
| 18:21 |
sokomine |
2d? we do have nice 3d now :-) |
| 18:21 |
mauvebic |
a lot of ore mods use on generated |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
they seem to work just fine |
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| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: moreores, technic, gloopores are the only ores-additive ones I run. |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
also the default mod uses on_generated for ore, cacti, papyrus |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
clay too |
| 18:23 |
sokomine |
even without further mods on_generated used up quite a lot of time. the default mods iirc generate coal and iron that way |
| 18:23 |
sokomine |
right. those things as well |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
<markveidemanis> any links to 2d player skins? |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar/gallery.php?type=2 |
| 18:23 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Gallery - Minetest Mods |
| 18:23 |
sokomine |
map generation in a new world slows my computer down significantly |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
download all from zipball: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar/zipball.zip |
| 18:23 |
mauvebic |
id look at those then first |
| 18:24 |
sokomine |
hm. might be intresting what happens when i change the default stuff to a really simple world without coal, iron, clay, plants etc., yes |
| 18:24 |
mauvebic |
well i doubt its the default ores that would be causing the problem |
| 18:26 |
sokomine |
depends. i suppose on_generated prints its time consumption per chunk? if it's 500 ms per chunk and there are many generated that may sum up |
| 18:29 |
mauvebic |
lately im leaning towards creating my own terrain - so as far as im concerned, the mapgen could be flat lol |
| 18:30 |
NakedFury |
lately you mean after the gun tools? |
| 18:30 |
mauvebic |
yup lol |
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mauvebic |
thinking up new ones too |
| 18:30 |
NakedFury |
I would agree on that |
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mauvebic |
i wanna add all the shapes as brushes |
| 18:30 |
NakedFury |
those basic tool you have for now are awesome |
| 18:31 |
mauvebic |
theres just this entity bug that im trying to workaround |
| 18:31 |
NakedFury |
you could try flat: circle or square |
| 18:31 |
NakedFury |
flat on ground and then flat as in wall |
| 18:31 |
mauvebic |
will disk is circle |
| 18:32 |
mauvebic |
*well |
| 18:32 |
NakedFury |
yes I know |
| 18:32 |
NakedFury |
just mentioning some the voxelsniper has |
| 18:32 |
mauvebic |
adding the conics will be cool for lower & raise |
| 18:32 |
mauvebic |
creating the rock formations from 'gehns world" in riven |
| 18:34 |
NakedFury |
have you tried the line yet? |
| 18:35 |
mauvebic |
naw i actualyl forgot about it up until yesterday when i thought of the other brushes |
| 18:35 |
mauvebic |
*actually |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
I need to find a minecraft skin viewer I can embed and give URL's for a skin to be displayed |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
for http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar |
| 18:36 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Welcome - Minetest Mods |
| 18:36 |
mauvebic |
though the shape of the brush would have to be a command instead of seperate guns : ive run out of colors :/ |
| 18:37 |
NakedFury |
yes |
| 18:37 |
NakedFury |
in the end commands would just have to be in the mod |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
minetest.net is loading slowly... |
| 18:38 |
analphabet |
is there something like redstone already? |
| 18:38 |
NakedFury |
yes |
| 18:38 |
NakedFury |
mesecons |
| 18:38 |
analphabet |
really? (*excited*) |
| 18:39 |
rubenwardy |
any one experiencing minetest.net problems? |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
works for me |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
analphabet: much more powerful actually |
| 18:40 |
NakedFury |
that too |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
vertical wires, object detectors, ICs (can be used as replacement for AMD CPUs and graphics cards) |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
and bearing textures made by yours truly ;-) |
| 18:41 |
mauvebic |
the guns only fire for people with server priv 'least |
| 18:41 |
NakedFury |
dont add a recipe |
| 18:41 |
NakedFury |
so others cant craft them unless admin or mods |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
are privilege-based recipes possible (eg. remove item after crafting if not having priv)? |
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mauvebic |
i dont have recipes for anything lol |
| 18:44 |
mauvebic |
or a craft area in my inv lol |
| 18:45 |
mauvebic |
theyd have to add a priv flag to crafts like you have for chat commands |
| 18:46 |
mauvebic |
i dont know if the inventory's on_put function applies to items added by mods or commands |
| 18:46 |
mauvebic |
otherwise you might use that to check what was added to who |
| 18:47 |
* VanessaE |
is sad :( |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
my server's basically hosed now :( |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
why? |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
oh no, my minecraft rollercoaster with its amazon ads :( |
| 18:47 |
mauvebic |
no rollback? |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
!up vanessae.mine.bz |
| 18:48 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 DOWN |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: something in the map data is causing the map gen/loader to crash now - I can't even leave the general area of the spawn anymore - the map just refuses to load even after waiting several minutes. |
| 18:48 |
analphabet |
omg, holy shit. (just watched a vid about mesecon) -- A W E S O M E |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: error message? |
| 18:48 |
analphabet |
really exciting |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
analphabet: i can confirm, mesecons is awesome |
| 18:49 |
mauvebic |
whats the error output? |
| 18:49 |
analphabet |
what's the superlative of camazing? |
| 18:50 |
NakedFury |
camazingning |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: none whatsoever. mapgen/loader iseither silently failing to load blocks, or the engine's failing to send them to the client, I don't know which - and the client is on the same box as the server/. |
| 18:50 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 18:51 |
analphabet |
sfan5: hah :) |
| 18:51 |
* analphabet |
stops spamming awesome people now (they like a quiet life, them; so diligent..., so awesome..) |
| 18:51 |
analphabet |
KEEP ROCKING! |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: yet, it executes commands, runs abms, lets players log in/out, chat works... just no mapgen. |
| 18:52 |
mauvebic |
well when you run the server from the terminal, what does it say when it dies? pcloadletter/stack overflow? |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: no errors whatsoever. silent failure. |
| 18:52 |
sfan5 |
so it just exits? |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: just normal activity in the logs at both ends. |
| 18:52 |
mauvebic |
thats damn peculiar |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: no, it spins at 100% CPU or close to it. |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
it does not exit. it gets stuck. |
| 18:53 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 18:54 |
mauvebic |
youve already tried undoing recent changes? |
| 18:54 |
mauvebic |
or loading different backups (same problem) |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: if I had a clue where to start, I would. |
| 18:55 |
mauvebic |
well whatever mods you recently removed, try adding them back |
| 18:55 |
analphabet |
hah, just got chucked out of #minecraft for telling them minetest is better... stupid gits :) |
| 18:55 |
mauvebic |
whatever ones you recently added you should try removing 1 by 1 |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
This is now happening directly from a server- and client cold restart, and if it doesn't, then it takes several hours before it happens. |
| 18:55 |
mauvebic |
if all else fails, try loading your latest backup |
| 18:55 |
mauvebic |
is it a grief or a bug causing it? |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, there is light at the ned of this tunnel |
| 18:56 |
sfan5 |
can you debug running c++ functions with gdb? |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
you have a .we version of the coaster :3 |
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* Jordach |
whisles |
| 18:56 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: yeah, .wem format but same difference. |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: it's a bug in the engine afaict but where? I don't know. |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
AndrewPH: try stairsplus too |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
oh he left |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
wrong guy :sadface: |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, it does not happen under 0.3.2 form my knowledge |
| 18:57 |
mauvebic |
the only times ive seriously wrecked a map like that was with mod testing :/ |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: eh? |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
the maps back then and blocks were saved in numbers and not text |
| 18:58 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
it seems to be the mapsaving itself |
| 18:58 |
* Jordach |
has not had any 0.3.x map go wrong ever |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: that's the kicker! In the areas that DID load? I can build! |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
and it gets saved. |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
if I sign out of the client and come back in, the construction is still there |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
and I'm pretty sure it survives a server restart too |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, run the lua mod slowness tracer |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
did. |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
technic and mesecons use up some CPU, but not enough to account for the server just puking like this. |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
the rest aren't even worth counting. |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
this is why we should have a pure C++ based api, (like BASIC, or something) |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, can i check if your server works for me? |
| 19:01 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: go ahead, I've started it. |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
i just logged in :D |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
I've signed in and am standing at the spawn, I think |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
I see two mapblocks' worth of data out in front of me about 50 nodes away I'd guess. |
| 19:03 |
Jordach |
did you check the .conf for any changes? |
| 19:03 |
VanessaE |
there, the spawn just loaded, a minute after I signed in |
| 19:03 |
mauvebic |
Jordach id say the opposite almost, id rather the mapgen was all lua so wed know better how it works |
| 19:03 |
Jordach |
speed > knowlegde |
| 19:04 |
marktraceur |
Hopefully soon it won't be a trade-off. |
| 19:04 |
mauvebic |
why not compile all mods then? |
| 19:04 |
* marktraceur |
figures it's a good time to write an announce for that doc sprint |
| 19:04 |
mauvebic |
ive thought about it but the uproar... lol |
| 19:04 |
marktraceur |
Ehhh.....tonight. |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, loads fine from my end |
| 19:06 |
mauvebic |
would mods accessing the sqlite be faster too though? |
| 19:06 |
mauvebic |
*directly |
| 19:06 |
VanessaE |
no because sqlite is doomed to die in a fire, hopefully :-) |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
I need to find a minecraft skin viewer I can embed and give URL's for a skin to be displayed |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
for http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
Can anyone help? |
| 19:06 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Welcome - Minetest Skins |
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NakedFury |
https://www.google.com.pr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftskins.com%2F&ei=5WHTUNXpLIuK8QTbsICgDA&usg=AFQjCNGczgNyH6Tjy-Y-byiuesOdTiN32w&sig2=rVgSMIdEa5-tQeJe1y3ClQ&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU |
| 19:07 |
NakedFury |
http://www.minecraftskins.com/ |
| 19:07 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: The Skindex - Minecraft Skins |
| 19:07 |
NakedFury |
stupidcopy and paste |
| 19:07 |
NakedFury |
would that link work? |
| 19:07 |
mauvebic |
for my mapgen problem, going to the db directly might solve the problem |
| 19:08 |
* mauvebic |
redundancy department of redundancy |
| 19:09 |
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| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: are you still reading me on the server? |
| 19:10 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 19:10 |
rubenwardy |
I need to be able to do <embed src="..."></embed> and supply some parameters to the skin |
| 19:11 |
mauvebic |
runbenwardy you could prolly use PIL to generate custom skins |
| 19:11 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Were they the ones who instituted the backup of the backup policy creation policy? You know, in case the normal backup policy creation policy fails? |
| 19:12 |
rubenwardy |
viewer, not editor |
| 19:12 |
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| 19:12 |
mauvebic |
web based? |
| 19:13 |
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| 19:13 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 19:13 |
Landminemtt |
No |
| 19:13 |
rubenwardy |
(7:06:35 PM) rubenwardy: I need to find a minecraft skin viewer I can embed and give URL's for a skin to be displayed |
| 19:13 |
rubenwardy |
(7:06:35 PM) rubenwardy: for http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar |
| 19:13 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Welcome - Minetest Skins |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i took a screenshot of the load only area |
| 19:14 |
mauvebic |
what id do: JS editor, python/PIL to create and save texture, then serve it up |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
oh good |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
lemme see it |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
I'm curious if it matches what I see |
| 19:14 |
Landminemtt |
Hi jordach |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
Landminemtt, cant touch me |
| 19:14 |
Landminemtt |
U think |
| 19:14 |
mauvebic |
you can touch me but its gonna cost you lol |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
jordach unaffiliated/jordach |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
screw you. |
| 19:15 |
Landminemtt |
So |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
I want a simple script that I can give a url to a skin file, which then turns it into a model in the browser, similar to this http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/664716/pikaset2/ |
| 19:15 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Pikaset2 | Minecraft Skin |
| 19:17 |
rubenwardy |
maybe a <embed> |
| 19:17 |
Landminemtt |
Why so defensive jordach? |
| 19:17 |
mauvebic |
simple would be JS then, offer templates for clothes, let them choose the colors, and python could creat the texture file |
| 19:17 |
rubenwardy |
no, NOT AN EDITOR |
| 19:17 |
rubenwardy |
a VIEWER |
| 19:17 |
Landminemtt |
Mauvebic that idea is awesome |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
Landminemtt, paranoia + panic attacks |
| 19:18 |
mauvebic |
you mean actually apply the texture to a 3d model in the browser as opposed to the user just trying it out? |
| 19:18 |
rubenwardy |
It would be good to have an editor, but I need a viewer now, for the home page |
| 19:18 |
Landminemtt |
Paranoid of what exactly jordach |
| 19:18 |
rubenwardy |
yes, like this http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/664716/pikaset2/ |
| 19:18 |
rubenwardy |
they cant edit it |
| 19:18 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Pikaset2 | Minecraft Skin |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
people. |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
not to mention other peoples habits |
| 19:19 |
Landminemtt |
Rubenwardy goto planetminecraft.com and see the viewer there |
| 19:20 |
Landminemtt |
I thnk that's what u want |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
actually, yes. thats a good one. |
| 19:20 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 19:20 |
mauvebic |
id say learn webgl then lol |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: screenshot? |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
hold on dammit |
| 19:21 |
mauvebic |
everything else will go by the wayside anyhow |
| 19:21 |
* VanessaE |
holds :-) |
| 19:21 |
* Jordach |
is busy with other shit |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
its not like in hanging of the edge of my sofa with a black hole trying to suck me in dammit, is it |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
s/in/im |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
s/of/off |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 19:22 |
Landminemtt |
jordach what wrong have u done that has u like this? |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/2gr0y |
| 19:23 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: The world has not ended. Sincerely, Australia. - Imgur |
| 19:23 |
NakedFury |
doesnt count |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 19:23 |
NakedFury |
it has to be mexican time |
| 19:23 |
NakedFury |
the mayan where not from australia |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
mexican time? thats GMT + 2 hour nap? :p |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
did they ascociate a specific timezome? |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
then no. |
| 19:24 |
Landminemtt |
Its 1:27 here mauveric |
| 19:24 |
* Jordach |
shows the middle finger |
| 19:24 |
NakedFury |
JOrdach they did when they said its a mayan shit |
| 19:24 |
mauvebic |
1/4 of my family is there actually |
| 19:24 |
Landminemtt |
Its 3:27 where the mayans were |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/V4DuT.png |
| 19:24 |
Landminemtt |
Mauveric are u mexican? |
| 19:24 |
* Jordach |
holds the keys to VanessaE's picture |
| 19:25 |
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| 19:25 |
mitori |
hello |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
hello mitori |
| 19:25 |
NakedFury |
hey |
| 19:25 |
Landminemtt |
Mauvebic are u mexican? |
| 19:25 |
mitori |
vanessa or pilzadam here? |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
VanessaE is |
| 19:26 |
mitori |
cool |
| 19:26 |
mauvebic |
vanessa is mexican? |
| 19:26 |
Landminemtt |
Looks like it |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
nah, the way she speaks is pure english |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
mexican? fuck no |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
not broken english |
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| 19:26 |
mitori |
VanessaE you asked for textures, didn't you? i made a mese crystal texturte |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
I'm actually from Kansas and I live in North Carolina. |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
....and better than mine |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
mitori: send them to PilzAdam |
| 19:27 |
Landminemtt |
Clark kent is from kansas |
| 19:27 |
mitori |
how? |
| 19:27 |
mauvebic |
naw im french/scot, father and brother married to peruvian and mexican respectively |
| 19:27 |
NakedFury |
and dorothy is from kansas |
| 19:27 |
* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE with a stick |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
ow. |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
crafted from a block of oak wood |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
sorry, got sidetracked - talking to the contractor for our home remodel |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
(he's here working on stuff) |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
Back |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
sweet, i forgot to mention something |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: that's consistent with what I was seeing. |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
okay, |
| 19:28 |
mitori |
VanessaE how do i send textures to adam? |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
pull request |
| 19:29 |
mitori |
omg |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
mitori, or send them to me and i do the work |
| 19:29 |
Landminemtt |
Mitori take it to pm pleas2 |
| 19:29 |
mitori |
ok, sorry |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
mitori: as Jordach said, expanding on it: fork minetest_game, put your textures into place, then issue a pull request and let PilzAdam knoe about it. |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
know* |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, i'm sorry for not playing now too much on your server |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 19:30 |
rubenwardy |
link to 3d skin, please |
| 19:30 |
Landminemtt |
jordach wanna be me e-buddy??? |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: it's okay, the server's taken a shit anyway :-/ |
| 19:30 |
Jordach |
ho ho no. |
| 19:30 |
rubenwardy |
nevermind |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
anyway |
| 19:31 |
Landminemtt |
Why jordach? |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: As your lawyer, I'm advising you not to answer. |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
As your bartender, shut up and have a drink. |
| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE. |
| 19:32 |
Landminemtt |
Ohh hi marktraceur |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
Now i'm on AoS... (0.75) |
| 19:32 |
Landminemtt |
Didn't see u |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
Landminemtt, remember when i gave a shit? yeah, me neither |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: have fun with it. |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
tomorrow im going to play 5 games |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
FUCK YOU MAyANS! |
| 19:32 |
Landminemtt |
Jordach come up with somthing original u say that all the time |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
"Nobody can choose the day of the end, neither the people, neither the tribals, neither the Son. |
| 19:33 |
KikaRz |
But yes, the Father" |
| 19:33 |
mauvebic |
everyone knows the end of the world is going to come with the north korean invasion of cleveland |
| 19:33 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Once again, I advise you to zip it. |
| 19:33 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: We really don't need another flame war here. |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
i gave a fuck once, it was terrible |
| 19:33 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But...why would they want to invade Cleveland? |
| 19:33 |
mauvebic |
seriously lol |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
Guess what i got you for christmas, Landminemtt |
| 19:34 |
Landminemtt |
I'm jewish |
| 19:34 |
mauvebic |
or my native city for that matter. theyve arrested something like 6 or 7 mayors this year. |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
a few seconds of less life |
| 19:35 |
Landminemtt |
And vanessae has oldcoder been on since yesterday? |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
Everyone |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
I got a gift for everyone. |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
STFU? |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
Landminemtt: I don't know, but I have not seen him. |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvw6yxvMvI |
| 19:35 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Animirus: Postmas - YouTube |
| 19:35 |
Landminemtt |
He got mad at ibanez for some reasn and left |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: care to sign onto the server and watch what it does? per the discussion in -dev |
| 19:35 |
mauvebic |
gotta start the sunday gravy |
| 19:35 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Please keep the religious chatter to a minimum. |
| 19:36 |
marktraceur |
(sorry, delayed response, read backlog) |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
Okay, breaking news, scientists found another mayan calendar that carries on where the first ended. it was found behind a sofa |
| 19:37 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, go to biblia. |
| 19:37 |
marktraceur |
What? |
| 19:37 |
Landminemtt |
Jordach u seem tense...what's going on in your life? |
| 19:37 |
KikaRz |
Lol, Jordach. |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
im looking for some stupid people to entertain me |
| 19:38 |
Landminemtt |
Why is that? |
| 19:38 |
* Jordach |
puts sunglasses on |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
deal with it mutherfucker |
| 19:38 |
Landminemtt |
Kikarz do u really read the bible? |
| 19:38 |
KikaRz |
No. |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
its 2500 pages that could have been used for flyers somewhere else |
| 19:38 |
KikaRz |
I've "read" |
| 19:38 |
marktraceur |
Landminemtt, KikaRz, I don't like holy wars any more than flame wars. |
| 19:38 |
KikaRz |
at 5 years ago |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
because the leak? |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
they |
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| 19:40 |
Landminemtt |
Kikarz last time I read u said u were another users mom.... is that true? |
| 19:41 |
KikaRz |
?? |
| 19:41 |
KikaRz |
what? |
| 19:41 |
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| 19:41 |
Landminemtt |
You said u were another user`s mom |
| 19:41 |
Landminemtt |
Is that true? |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
??? |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
user's mom ? |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
o_o' |
| 19:42 |
Landminemtt |
Yeah |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
?? |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
why does team fortress 2 have to be 10 gb to download? :( |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
didnt understoo |
| 19:42 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: As in, someone in this channel is your child. |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
d |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
*d |
| 19:42 |
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| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
no, im just telek's mother |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
stupid RagnarLaud. |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
<sfan5> why does team fortress 2 have to be 10 gb to download? :( - i know |
| 19:43 |
Landminemtt |
Kikarz how was my question unclear? |
| 19:43 |
mauvebic |
10gb? does it come with debian? |
| 19:43 |
* Jordach |
sniggers |
| 19:43 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: mauvebic: the open beta of steam for linux started |
| 19:44 |
Jordach |
YES YES YES |
| 19:44 |
Jordach |
fuck yeh |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
read about it on ./ :-) |
| 19:44 |
* Jordach |
downloads steam |
| 19:44 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 19:44 |
thexyz |
now enjoy your no gaems |
| 19:44 |
Jordach |
on a windows machine |
| 19:44 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: /.? |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
no games? |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
slashdot :p |
| 19:44 |
Jordach |
O.O |
| 19:44 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb |
| 19:44 |
Landminemtt |
Anybody play black op 2? |
| 19:45 |
* Jordach |
prefers /b/ and /r/ |
| 19:45 |
Jordach |
im a asshole to others, deal with it |
| 19:45 |
Landminemtt |
Jordach no your not |
| 19:45 |
Landminemtt |
U only act hard on the web |
| 19:45 |
thexyz |
well, there's ton of indie shi^Wgames, tf2, serious sam 3: bfe, have i forgot anything? |
| 19:45 |
Landminemtt |
In rl everyone steps over u |
| 19:45 |
Jordach |
Landminemtt, ask my selection of working rifles |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
all of them eat nato spec rounds |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
and yes, im licensed |
| 19:46 |
Landminemtt |
That just proves my point |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
no one remembers games like arc and wulfram or the TEN game thingie? lol |
| 19:46 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Don't threaten other people please. |
| 19:47 |
sfan5 |
why the fuck do I have to download the whole game again to upate? why not just a patch? |
| 19:47 |
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| 19:47 |
thexyz |
oh, well, there's also sale in steam right now |
| 19:47 |
Landminemtt |
Marktraceur has oldcoder been back sine he raged quit? |
| 19:47 |
mauvebic |
i tried desura a while back and was like "meh" so ill pass on steam |
| 19:48 |
marktraceur |
Landminemtt: Not that I know of, no. |
| 19:48 |
sfan5 |
i wish there would be borderlands 2 for linux |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
wine? |
| 19:49 |
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| 19:49 |
KikaRz |
stupid wine. |
| 19:49 |
sfan5 |
you can drink wine |
| 19:49 |
mauvebic |
try participating :P i test alot of games and pass on the results, and when you mention flaws they tend to get fixed:p |
| 19:49 |
KikaRz |
http://buildandshoot.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=187 |
| 19:49 |
KikaRz |
u_u' |
| 19:50 |
KikaRz |
fail! |
| 19:50 |
KikaRz |
Wrong channel |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
If any one would like to make/implement a 3d skin viewer, the place is here: https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Avatar-Forum/blob/master/scripts/setup.php#L46 |
| 19:50 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Minetest-Avatar-Forum/scripts/setup.php at master ? rubenwardy/Minetest-Avatar-Forum ? GitHub |
| 19:52 |
rubenwardy |
who made the default 3d skin? |
| 19:52 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach? |
| 19:52 |
Landminemtt |
Jordach as u have seen being a bully leaves no good |
| 19:53 |
sokomine |
185% cpu usage after (admittedly on purpose) running around fast in a new world? at least it looks as if both cpus are used |
| 19:53 |
Landminemtt |
Keep it to a minimum |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
and another ignore, i hoped to avoid it |
| 19:53 |
Landminemtt |
Lol |
| 19:54 |
Landminemtt |
Once he can't control a situation he simply starts to ignore people |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
Landminemtt: Jordach had a bit of an outburst, it doesn't make him a bully. He's not about to repeat the behaviour. |
| 19:54 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 19:54 |
Landminemtt |
Gonna eat brb |
| 19:55 |
* Jordach |
has had a long week and is tired, depressed and grumpy |
| 19:55 |
* mauvebic |
hands jordach a beer |
| 19:55 |
sokomine |
oh :-( |
| 19:56 |
mauvebic |
its not 5 o clock here but it must be where you are so im good |
| 19:56 |
* sokomine |
picks some apples and hands them to jordach for healing |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, /ctcp time |
| 19:56 |
mauvebic |
ctcp? |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
just use |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
it |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
it tells you the time from my time zone |
| 19:57 |
mauvebic |
how would it know though? i didndt have to chose a timezone on my client :/ |
| 19:57 |
sokomine |
maybe through the ip range |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
it uses system time |
| 19:57 |
sfan5 |
mauvebic: it just reads the local time? |
| 19:57 |
sfan5 |
sokomine: how? |
| 19:57 |
sfan5 |
its 14:54 at mauvebic |
| 19:58 |
mauvebic |
sounds about right |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
and 19:57 at Jordach |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
and 20:57 at myself |
| 19:58 |
sokomine |
i don't even know the command. but ips are not exactly secret on irc |
| 19:58 |
* sokomine |
is in sfan5s timezone |
| 19:58 |
mauvebic |
i use a romulan cloaking device for mine |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
* [Jordach] (~Jordachunaffiliated/jordach): realname |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
​/ctcp sokomine TIME |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
i have no cloak |
| 19:59 |
* sokomine |
pretends to be overworked and uses that as an excuse to steal the cloaking device from mauvebic |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
but if you reverse dns the ip you'll get to minetest.ru |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
===Skin Selector News=== |
| 19:59 |
mauvebic |
though considering i never check the time before beer, i wasn't gonna check jordach's before giving him one lol |
| 20:00 |
rubenwardy |
===Skin Selector News=== |
| 20:00 |
rubenwardy |
3d skins are now supported |
| 20:00 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar |
| 20:00 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Welcome - Minetest Skins |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, im a sleepy drunk, not a angry one |
| 20:00 |
mauvebic |
im a functional drunk lol |
| 20:01 |
mauvebic |
this one time, i left a bar downtown at 2am, walked home and got there by 7 (had to cross a few bridges) |
| 20:01 |
mauvebic |
wouldnt do that now |
| 20:02 |
mauvebic |
too many shitty neighbourhoods in between |
| 20:06 |
sokomine |
when running singleplayer, the server process does not seem to be a seperate process? |
| 20:07 |
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| 20:07 |
davidpace |
Hi all |
| 20:08 |
rubenwardy |
20:08 at me |
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| 20:12 |
sokomine |
hi |
| 20:12 |
sokomine |
hm. seems client and server both reach a peak when i run around (fast in a new world) |
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sokomine |
the server does recover relatively fast. ok...i know i have a not-well-suited grapics card. and it runs much better than minecraft :-) |
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markveidemanis |
hihi |
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LAD |
hmm |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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LAD |
!joke |
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LAD |
nope dont work here |
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markveidemanis |
!define joke |
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moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: joke definition: something said or done to provoke laughter; '''especially'''. |
| 20:18 |
LAD |
?? |
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markveidemanis |
!joke |
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markveidemanis |
moltenbot! |
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markveidemanis |
[20:18] <moltenbot> "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. He who lives by markveidemanis , dies by the roundhouse kick." |
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KittenGNU |
HAHA it's connected to ddg.gg? |
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markveidemanis |
??? |
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KittenGNU |
!define bottoms |
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moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: bottom definition: the underside of something. |
| 20:19 |
markveidemanis |
!define $#!T |
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KittenGNU |
!ud o/ |
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KittenGNU |
Seemingly not all !bangs works here. |
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moltenbot |
no definition found, try to use 'thinking' |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Watch the bot usage. |
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markveidemanis |
why? |
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markveidemanis |
minetest-tan |
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markveidemanis |
Minetest-tan |
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KittenGNU |
!roll 1d20 |
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NakedFury |
because they are not made to spam the chat |
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markveidemanis |
+Minetest-tan |
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markveidemanis |
!up 10.12.110.1 |
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moltenbot |
Minetest server 10.12.110.1:30000 DOWN |
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sokomine |
@vanessae the cpu's athlon x2 4850e, 3.5 ghz. a recent celeron of 2.5 mhz would be 50% faster |
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markveidemanis |
!joke dzho |
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markveidemanis |
[20:22] <moltenbot> "markveidemanis is currently suing myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you." |
| 20:24 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: anything starting with 10.x.x.x is always a LAN IP. |
| 20:24 |
VanessaE |
same for 192.168.x.x |
| 20:24 |
VanessaE |
no one will be able to reach those. |
| 20:25 |
markveidemanis |
just test (random) |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 20:26 |
markveidemanis |
my server is testing the skins mod by Zeg9 please come on and report bugs |
| 20:26 |
markveidemanis |
or anything |
| 20:26 |
markveidemanis |
or have fun:) |
| 20:26 |
markveidemanis |
where are passwords kept? |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: auth.txt |
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markveidemanis |
are they encrypted? |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Damn right they are |
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markveidemanis |
k4RFv3sGES+UI09Aev+Z17W2oqY |
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markveidemanis |
how to un... |
| 20:28 |
markveidemanis |
encrypt |
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marktraceur |
(what is this, amateur hour?) |
| 20:28 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Don't. Ever. Do that. |
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markveidemanis |
why |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Because it's a security breach, a violation of your users' privacy, and illegal in most places. |
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markveidemanis |
but how do i do it () |
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KikaRz |
markveidemanis, stop spamming. |
| 20:29 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: You don't. Don't come in here asking how to steal someone's password. |
| 20:29 |
markveidemanis |
is it "A=bubkhjh" or more complex |
| 20:30 |
marktraceur |
God damn. People just don't listen. |
| 20:30 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: You don't unencrypt passwords. It's not a good idea. |
| 20:31 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: If you're trying to accomplish something innocent, ask a broader question, there's probably a better way to do it. |
| 20:31 |
KikaRz |
stupid hacker. |
| 20:31 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Not a hacker so much as a skiddie. |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Behave. |
| 20:32 |
markveidemanis |
what am i doing? |
| 20:32 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: You're asking how to circumvent security that's put there for a reason. |
| 20:33 |
markveidemanis |
but is it possible yes/no |
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markveidemanis |
("yes"/"no"0 |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: No. Give it up. |
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markveidemanis |
ok |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Did you have another question? What were you going to do with the unencrypted passwords? |
| 20:35 |
markveidemanis |
just interested |
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kaeza |
hi! |
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leo_rockway |
I'm sorry, I know where you're coming from, marktraceur, but it is possible to break any encryption. It just takes more or less time. |
| 20:40 |
leo_rockway |
so people should use common sense with their passwords |
| 20:40 |
kaeza |
hey leo |
| 20:40 |
leo_rockway |
hello, kaeza |
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kaeza |
mey mark |
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kaeza |
hey* |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
im testing the skins mod on my server |
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kaeza |
has anyone seen OldCoder lately? |
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kaeza |
markveidemanis: good |
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leo_rockway |
it's not ethical to try to break the users' passwords, but everyone should be aware that ANY admin (not of minetest, but of any online app) can try and break their passwords. |
| 20:43 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: a simple rule of thumb: don't use the same passwords for your accounts |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
no matter how "strong" the encryption is, sooner or later somebody will be able to decrypt them |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
of course, changing passwords frequently also pays off |
| 20:45 |
ruskie |
passwords tend to be stored in one-way hashes |
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ruskie |
not encrypted |
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ruskie |
usually |
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leo_rockway |
ruskie: hashes can be broken. |
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leo_rockway |
md5hashes, for instance |
| 20:45 |
ruskie |
they can be colided |
| 20:45 |
leo_rockway |
well, yes |
| 20:45 |
leo_rockway |
okay, you're right |
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ruskie |
so that something produces the same hash |
| 20:45 |
leo_rockway |
still |
| 20:45 |
ruskie |
still won't provide the final password most of the time |
| 20:46 |
leo_rockway |
yes, that's correct |
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leo_rockway |
thanks for clarifying |
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ecube |
\o/ |
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kaeza |
hey ecube |
| 20:51 |
ecube |
hey |
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kaeza |
hey Zeg9, Splizard, Morrolan |
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Splizard |
hi |
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Splizard |
Its the end of the world here in New Zealand today, ill let you guys know if were all destroyed :D |
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Zeg9 |
Hi! |
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kaeza |
oh please |
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mauvebic |
its simply the end of one calendar and the start of another |
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markveidemanis |
WERE ALL GOING TO DIE |
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* marktraceur |
warns people once more about spreading religious crap in the channel |
| 20:54 |
markveidemanis |
ITS EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF |
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Jordach |
the end of the world is bullshit |
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kaeza |
I'm going to say "happy new world" to everybody on the 22nd |
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sokomine |
in minetest the end of the world is at 30000. or when the server shuts down :_) |
| 20:56 |
kaeza |
like one says "happy new year" |
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kaeza |
sokomine: lol |
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kaeza |
sokomine: it's at 301212 |
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sokomine |
ok :-) |
| 20:56 |
kaeza |
err |
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sokomine |
,-) |
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kaeza |
31212 |
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kaeza |
:P |
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mauvebic |
they prolly didn't have gregorian calendars or leap years back then either lol |
| 20:58 |
markveidemanis |
never worry about the world ending today; its already tomorrow in australia |
| 20:58 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'm sure the insane SOB who came up with the doomsday theory was intelligent enough to calculate using leap years. |
| 20:59 |
marktraceur |
Educate y'all selves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon |
| 20:59 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: 2012 phenomenon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 20:59 |
mauvebic |
there have been how many thousand doomsday theories so far? lol |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: I dunno....there's some pretty stupid people in this world - after all, he came up with the doomsday shit to start with :-) |
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marktraceur |
VanessaE: Read the article, some interesting insight |
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Zeg9 |
Hi OldCoder |
| 21:01 |
Splizard |
I saw a shop the other day advertising "get your 21/12/12 survival kits now" |
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Splizard |
it was a laugh |
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marktraceur |
Wow people are dumb. |
| 21:01 |
marktraceur |
Why would the day go first? You can't sort dates as easily if you do that! |
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marktraceur |
And besides, didn't we learn anything from the Y2K bullshit? Jesus, use the four-digit year format. |
| 21:02 |
Zeg9 |
"after end of the world kit" <<useful |
| 21:02 |
ruskie |
yyyy-mm-dd works great |
| 21:02 |
marktraceur |
Yeah. People only get bloody well paid to come up with useful standards, why not use them? |
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* ruskie |
does |
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marktraceur |
ruskie: Well, I'll see you on 2012-12-22 then :) |
| 21:04 |
marktraceur |
2012-12-22T00:00:01-5, I suppose, to be more exact. |
| 21:04 |
ruskie |
it's not even 2012-12-21 yet |
| 21:04 |
marktraceur |
Right. Just saying. |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
also it seems scientists or the maya (can't remember) miscalculated something or such and the end of the world is in 140 years lol |
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Splizard |
ruskie: it is in New Zealand |
| 21:05 |
ruskie |
Splizard, true hehe |
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* Zeg9 |
feels asleep; g'night all |
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mauvebic |
it also depends if you see the end of world as the extinction of life, or the end of life as we know it (no governments, hospitals, etc.) |
| 21:10 |
mauvebic |
if anything i thought the financial crisis was it |
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mauvebic |
could still be |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
I'll die if there is no internet for three days as some say |
| 21:11 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: moreores on master would be awesome! |
| 21:11 |
kaeza |
thx |
| 21:11 |
kaeza |
really |
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leo_rockway |
and portals between servers would give us another clear advantage over MC |
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markveidemanis |
mauvebic |
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kaeza |
ask RBA about that, he was coding 'em |
| 21:12 |
markveidemanis |
any updates on the gui mods |
| 21:12 |
markveidemanis |
and inventories |
| 21:12 |
mauvebic |
didnt write those |
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mauvebic |
cornernote did |
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markveidemanis |
link? |
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mauvebic |
forums |
| 21:14 |
mauvebic |
theyre not all there but the fans tried to put back as many as possible |
| 21:14 |
leo_rockway |
well, I just updated the server... too bad I can't log in to try it o.o |
| 21:16 |
markveidemanis |
any cool mod links? |
| 21:16 |
markveidemanis |
to do with inventory |
| 21:17 |
markveidemanis |
an |
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kaeza |
markveidemanis: unified inventory? |
| 21:17 |
markveidemanis |
no. not that.. |
| 21:18 |
kaeza |
markveidemanis: 0gb_us posted a new bookmarks mod on the forums |
| 21:18 |
markveidemanis |
i need it to work with: skins mod, inventory_plus |
| 21:18 |
markveidemanis |
hmmm |
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calinou |
ohai from TTY1 |
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markveidemanis |
why did cornernote get banned? |
| 21:19 |
calinou |
(on my netbook, playing minetest in fullscreen prevents me from using alt-tab :P) |
| 21:19 |
leo_rockway |
markveidemanis: he asked for it. |
| 21:19 |
calinou |
using irssi :) |
| 21:19 |
markveidemanis |
really, why> |
| 21:19 |
leo_rockway |
calinou: if you haven't tried Weechat, you might like it. At least I liked it better. |
| 21:20 |
calinou |
is it a CLI client? |
| 21:20 |
leo_rockway |
yes |
| 21:20 |
calinou |
k |
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calinou |
i'll try :P |
| 21:20 |
calinou |
*switches TTY* |
| 21:20 |
leo_rockway |
it's more featureful by default |
| 21:20 |
leo_rockway |
and you can also try kaeza's irc mod |
| 21:20 |
leo_rockway |
markveidemanis: veganism arguments |
| 21:20 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 21:20 |
calinou |
how can I switch channels in irssi? and how can I change some settings? :P |
| 21:21 |
kaeza |
calinou: /join #minetest-irc-testing |
| 21:21 |
kaeza |
if you can |
| 21:21 |
leo_rockway |
you edit text files in Irssi. I don't remember if you can change settings from within irssi. |
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Aggies |
sup everybody |
| 21:21 |
leo_rockway |
switch channels... I used the go plugin. /go channel |
| 21:21 |
leo_rockway |
I don't remember how to switch channels in default |
| 21:21 |
leo_rockway |
Aggies: \ø greetings |
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marktraceur |
calinou: /win # will take you to a window. Alt-[1234567890qwertyuiop] will bring you to channels 1 through 19. |
| 21:22 |
marktraceur |
Sorry, not p. P is page up. |
| 21:22 |
marktraceur |
Er, Alt-p is. |
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markveidemanis |
alt+P?? |
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markveidemanis |
:P |
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Aggies |
im slim shady the real slim shady all you other shadys are just imatating will the real slim shady please stand up please stand up |
| 21:25 |
marktraceur |
Aggies: Fascinating. |
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kaeza |
hey Aggies |
| 21:25 |
Aggies |
hey |
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Aggies |
these are some good songs |
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markveidemanis |
who has skins link |
| 21:27 |
Aggies |
gtg |
| 21:28 |
kaeza |
d |
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celeron55 |
markveidemanis: the passwords are sha1 hashed, salted by the username |
| 21:28 |
celeron55 |
it's not a secret and i don't believe in security by obscurity |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
LAWL |
| 21:28 |
celeron55 |
however, that is somewhat crappy hashing |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
ChanServ can net split too! |
| 21:28 |
markveidemanis |
sha1? |
| 21:29 |
markveidemanis |
what do you mean by the username |
| 21:29 |
celeron55 |
so don't crack them if you can, because it's not fun |
| 21:29 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Might be worthwhile to throw a sha512 in there :) |
| 21:30 |
markveidemanis |
idk what you all are on about :P |
| 21:30 |
ruskie |
well last I checked sha1 is still rather solid |
| 21:30 |
marktraceur |
ruskie: I heard it got brute-forced by about $2 worth of virtual machines on AWS. |
| 21:30 |
celeron55 |
well, more like a couple of rounds of sha256 with a random salt |
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* marktraceur |
doesn't get why you'd use sha256 when sha512 is around, but OK |
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hmmmm |
does it really matter |
| 21:31 |
hmmmm |
just hash it twice |
| 21:31 |
celeron55 |
because it's useless |
| 21:31 |
celeron55 |
the point of a password hash is to 1) be secure, 2) be slow to calculate |
| 21:32 |
celeron55 |
not to have a huge number of result bytes |
| 21:32 |
celeron55 |
really the largest problem of the current system is because it uses so predictable salts |
| 21:32 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 21:32 |
marktraceur |
Though either way, if you get auth.txt, you're going to have the salt. |
| 21:32 |
celeron55 |
or, well, predictability is not a problem, but the fact that they are always the same for the same user |
| 21:33 |
celeron55 |
it doesn't matter if somebody gets the salt |
| 21:33 |
celeron55 |
but it matters if the salt is the same on all servers for the same user |
| 21:33 |
celeron55 |
...i wonder when i or somebody else will get into fixing that up |
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markveidemanis_ |
hi |
| 21:34 |
hmmmm |
you need an idea first in order to fix it up |
| 21:34 |
markveidemanis |
all: post your local time |
| 21:34 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: No. |
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markveidemanis |
21:34 |
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hmmmm |
the thing that first comes to mind is a randomly generated value that's persistant for the entire existence of that server |
| 21:35 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: If you must know somebody's local time, use /ctcp time <username> |
| 21:35 |
hmmmm |
like you'd store it in a config file |
| 21:35 |
celeron55 |
hmmmm: no no no |
| 21:35 |
hmmmm |
got any other ideas? :/ |
| 21:35 |
marktraceur |
Er sorry |
| 21:35 |
celeron55 |
hmmmm: the right way is to randomly generate a salt for each password |
| 21:35 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: /ctcp <username> time |
| 21:35 |
marktraceur |
Bloody order of arguments |
| 21:36 |
celeron55 |
and store it next to the salt+hashed password |
| 21:36 |
hmmmm |
okay |
| 21:36 |
hmmmm |
then we'll do that |
| 21:36 |
celeron55 |
but it has implications to the network protocol |
| 21:36 |
hmmmm |
how are we going to keep backwards compatibility |
| 21:37 |
markveidemanis |
ok, who will comeon my server to build a subway-train station |
| 21:37 |
celeron55 |
hmmmm: the client sends the protocol versions it supports when it connects to the server |
| 21:38 |
NakedFury |
is it possible to do timed priviledges? |
| 21:38 |
hmmmm |
celeron, have you ever looked into SRP? |
| 21:39 |
hmmmm |
that would probably be the ideal solution but it'd take a lot of work to implement |
| 21:39 |
markveidemanis |
who wants to build a space base+tunnel |
| 21:40 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: You already asked. I've told you before, announce on the forums and ask here _once_ if something changes on your server. |
| 21:40 |
markveidemanis |
it's just on for a bit now |
| 21:40 |
markveidemanis |
it not usually |
| 21:40 |
celeron55 |
hmmmm: well the ideal solution would be to set up an unauthenticated encrypted connection and do everything on top of it |
| 21:41 |
celeron55 |
(and it becomes authenticated when you do password authentication on it) |
| 21:41 |
celeron55 |
it's not that hard at all (just the regular diffie-helmann stuff) but... well |
| 21:41 |
ruskie |
someone just needs to implement it ;) |
| 21:42 |
celeron55 |
i think it should be postponed to some larger protocol redesign, but i have no idea when such is going to happen |
| 21:43 |
ruskie |
the important thing is to have it in mind when doing it |
| 21:44 |
celeron55 |
i'm quite terrified to even think of doing anything like that, because minetest is somewhat tied to the current protocol |
| 21:45 |
celeron55 |
if you design the perfect universal mine* protocol, it's a pain in the ass to implement in MT 8) |
| 21:46 |
celeron55 |
of course less of a PITA than writing an MC clone from scratch, but, not something you do in one night |
| 21:47 |
ruskie |
wouldn't just adding a ssl layer on top via stunnel solve a large chunk? |
| 21:47 |
hmmmm |
an added advantage to SRP is that the password, or the cryptographic equivalent, is never sent over the wire |
| 21:48 |
hmmmm |
but |
| 21:48 |
hmmmm |
is there really that much of a problem with the salt being sent through the network |
| 21:49 |
Splizard |
New release for snow mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2290 |
| 21:49 |
moltenbot |
Splizard's link: [Mod] Snow Biomes [1.4] [snow] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 21:49 |
celeron55 |
when a middleman siis the salt and the hash, cracking the password is reduced to cracking a non-salted password |
| 21:49 |
celeron55 |
but they see it now too |
| 21:49 |
markveidemanis |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068 |
| 21:49 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis's Server (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums |
| 21:50 |
celeron55 |
i don't really know if the current system is *too bad* |
| 21:50 |
celeron55 |
probably not |
| 21:52 |
celeron55 |
it's at the limit of what is easy to make but still hides passwords from any non-serious cracker |
| 21:52 |
sokomine |
does mt work with port forwarding? |
| 21:53 |
hmmmm |
this might be stupid but |
| 21:53 |
hmmmm |
what if you send a hash of the salt, salted with some random value |
| 21:54 |
hmmmm |
and the client also uses a random value to salt with in addition to what the server sent it to use |
| 21:54 |
hmmmm |
and the client will send the random value it used to salt |
| 21:54 |
celeron55 |
umm... that probably too reduces to brute forcing the plain password 8) |
| 21:54 |
celeron55 |
(if the traffic is collected by someone) |
| 21:54 |
hmmmm |
so you have something like password hash = SHA(SHA(password) + client_value + SHA1(key + server_value)) |
| 21:55 |
hmmmm |
so they never know what the acutal salt is |
| 21:55 |
kaeza |
celeron55: hi. I see your point, but I think it's not worth the effort adding strong encryption/hashing/whatever to mt passwords. It's just a game after all |
| 21:55 |
hmmmm |
because it's hashed along with a random valued salt |
| 21:55 |
hmmmm |
and it changes for each logon |
| 21:55 |
ruskie |
so a session key or so |
| 21:55 |
kaeza |
but that's just my opinion |
| 21:55 |
hmmmm |
yeah i guess |
| 21:55 |
celeron55 |
ehm |
| 21:55 |
sokomine |
yes, kaeza's right |
| 21:56 |
hmmmm |
kaeza, the problem is that users use passwords they use on other websites and stuff |
| 21:56 |
hmmmm |
like normally i'd agree with you |
| 21:56 |
sokomine |
there might be some risk if players use their password elsewhere. but if they do they'll do so at other less secure services as well |
| 21:56 |
hmmmm |
but this is human nature :/ |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
nobody is going to store their super secret documents in it |
| 21:56 |
ruskie |
I just use low-security disposable PWs for games |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
if you want mine, it's just 1234 |
| 21:57 |
celeron55 |
good: game passwords: foo1, cat2, asd |
| 21:57 |
kaeza |
(for MT) |
| 21:57 |
celeron55 |
-: |
| 21:57 |
hmmmm |
the problem is that you don't know for sure if they share your same mentality or not |
| 21:57 |
hmmmm |
those damn humans are so unreliable |
| 21:57 |
celeron55 |
that is exactly why i implemented the hashes in the first place |
| 21:57 |
celeron55 |
imagine not having username salted hashes 8) |
| 21:57 |
hmmmm |
i wish we could replace them with robots so we can standardize on behavior |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
well I'm a tad more paranoid so it's a bit longer and can haze various crap |
| 21:58 |
hmmmm |
but anyway i like my solution |
| 21:58 |
hmmmm |
so if i were to do this that's how i'd implement it |
| 21:59 |
hmmmm |
it requires more crosstalk between the server and client though |
| 21:59 |
hmmmm |
client initializes connection, sends client key, server sends SHA(user specific salt + server key) |
| 22:00 |
hmmmm |
then the client logs on by calculating SHA(SHA(password) + client_key + hash_from_server) |
| 22:01 |
mauvebic |
simpler solution is to never use the same password twice :p |
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hmmmm |
relying on humans is UB |
| 22:03 |
mauvebic |
lol seriously when websites get sick of people like me creating dozens of accounts, they wont require them to do simple things lol |
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markveidemanis |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068 |
| 22:03 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis's Server (NO_MAPGEN) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums |
| 22:03 |
mauvebic |
i never chose the same passwords but i rarely remember them either so lol |
| 22:04 |
markveidemanis |
!define server |
| 22:04 |
moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: server definition: one that serves food or drink. |
| 22:04 |
markveidemanis |
!define waiter |
| 22:04 |
moltenbot |
no definition found, try to use 'thinking' |
| 22:05 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: What did I say about the bots? |
| 22:05 |
* I |
dont know |
| 22:05 |
* I |
hello |
| 22:05 |
* I |
hi |
| 22:06 |
marktraceur |
Guest79418: Refrain from flooding the channel in the future. Unmute in ~15 minutes. |
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| 22:08 |
Splizard |
does anyone here use/used snow mod? |
| 22:09 |
sokomine |
for a short time, yes. i'm having problems with mt beeing slow on world generation |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: Did he PM you? |
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| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
Interesting. |
| 22:10 |
leo_rockway |
Splizard: yes |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: I unilaterally muted you because you were misusing the bots and using the channel for inane IRC tests. |
| 22:11 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: If you have a problem with that, you can PM me directly. |
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marktraceur |
Not an awful idea. |
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| 22:18 |
marktraceur |
Of course, you could just make such a channel |
| 22:18 |
marktraceur |
And ask the bot owner to add the bot to it |
| 22:21 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: I think there's an armour mod. I don't know where it is exactly. |
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marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Unmuted. Welcome back. |
| 22:21 |
sokomine |
afaik not yet. taoki wrote something about supporting them in the future? |
| 22:21 |
marktraceur |
Dunno, actually, john_minetest. |
| 22:21 |
markveidemanis |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068 |
| 22:21 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis's Server (NO_MAPGEN) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums |
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| 22:23 |
markveidemanis |
can armor mod add overlay textures to the player |
| 22:24 |
markveidemanis |
like minec*aft |
| 22:24 |
marktraceur |
I don't know, but it doesn't seem obviously possible |
| 22:24 |
marktraceur |
I guess you could change the player textures (see also player_textures by IIRC PilzAdam |
| 22:24 |
marktraceur |
But I'm not sure how you would. I'm no graphics person. |
| 22:24 |
markveidemanis |
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Armor |
| 22:25 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: Armor - Minecraft Wiki |
| 22:25 |
markveidemanis |
could someone make a mod that does the following |
| 22:25 |
markveidemanis |
http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Empty_Booze_Barrel |
| 22:25 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: Empty Booze Barrel - Industrial-Craft-Wiki |
| 22:27 |
landminebusy |
Back |
| 22:27 |
ecube |
wb |
| 22:27 |
landminebusy |
Ty |
| 22:28 |
markveidemanis |
http://www.google.im/imgres?q=industrial+craft+beer&num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=512&tbm=isch&tbnid=dzK0qOSxKRgPMM:&imgrefurl=http://52todo.com/category/45-home-brewing/&docid=UN6HDFdlkgkTvM&imgurl=http://52tododotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/img_7818.jpg&w=5616&h=3744&ei=3ZDTUO7-MKWV0QWysYD4Ag&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=606&vpy=178&dur=132&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=164&ty=111&sig=106104872686144412907&page=2&tbnh=141&tbnw=178&st |
| 22:28 |
markveidemanis |
whoops |
| 22:28 |
ecube |
shpam |
| 22:28 |
ecube |
;) |
| 22:28 |
ecube |
haha shit |
| 22:28 |
landmineog |
Hi moltenbot |
| 22:28 |
markveidemanis |
well, theres google for you :D |
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| 22:28 |
ecube |
It redirects to google.im |
| 22:28 |
ecube |
/imghp |
| 22:29 |
markveidemanis |
http://52todo.com/category/45-home-brewing/ found it |
| 22:29 |
markveidemanis |
[22:25] <markveidemanis> could someone make a mod that does the following |
| 22:32 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: You've asked. Wait. |
| 22:32 |
markveidemanis |
is anyone going to go on my server? (to shutdown or to not shutdown, that is the question) |
| 22:32 |
markveidemanis |
first one on gets to be admin |
| 22:33 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Again, you've asked, just chill. |
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| 22:36 |
sokomine |
msg vaneessae tell me that location so i may check locally |
| 22:36 |
marktraceur |
Heh. |
| 22:36 |
sokomine |
sorry...forgot the / |
| 22:36 |
markveidemanis |
*cricket chirps |
| 22:36 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 22:36 |
markveidemanis |
also, name is spelled wrong |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
does the cricket give experience points? :)Ö |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
oh. true |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
well, she might read it anyway :-) |
| 22:37 |
Uberi |
crickets drop 1 dead cricket upon death |
| 22:37 |
Uberi |
you can eat it but it only restores a half heart |
| 22:38 |
sokomine |
well...i better let them cirp then :-) |
| 22:38 |
markveidemanis |
hey, first one on my server gets to be admin for the night |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
ok guys I need an expert here. |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
if I can borrow someone e.g. uberi, celeron55, etc.. |
| 22:39 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Last warning, stop asking. If anyone is interested they'll come. |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
between now with it apparently working acceptably: http://pastebin.com/feV97z2F and before when it was broken: http://pastebin.com/7JBxJHcR |
| 22:39 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: creative_mode = 1 enable_damage = 1 name = VanessaEzekowitz default_privs = - Pastebin.com |
| 22:39 |
Uberi |
I'm an expert now? |
| 22:39 |
Uberi |
when did that happen? :P |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
why does the second config file make my server go apeshit but the first does not? |
| 22:40 |
Uberi |
:/ |
| 22:40 |
markveidemanis |
noclip?? |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: fly through walls (used to be the default in early 0.4.4 and prior) |
| 22:40 |
markveidemanis |
but is that not "fly", of free_move? |
| 22:41 |
Uberi |
noclip was added recently, markveidemanis |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: fly lets you fly :-) noclip lets you pass through walls when flying |
| 22:41 |
kaeza1 |
hi VanessaE |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
you need both privs to get the early-0.4.4-and-before behavior. |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
hey hey kaeza1 |
| 22:41 |
NakedFury |
what is fast for? |
| 22:41 |
markveidemanis |
is that a mod |
| 22:41 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: null video driver, perhaps? |
| 22:41 |
NakedFury |
we cant run |
| 22:41 |
kaeza1 |
what's up? |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: sprinting e.g. the j/e keys |
| 22:41 |
Uberi |
markveidemanis: nah it's in trunk now |
| 22:41 |
kaeza1 |
I will enter the server |
| 22:41 |
Uberi |
hey kaeza1 |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
kaeza1: go agead |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
go ahead* |
| 22:42 |
NakedFury |
really? j lets you sprint??????? |
| 22:42 |
markveidemanis |
its e |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: running fast = sprinting afaik |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
use e to actually do it, j just turns it on/off. |
| 22:43 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: other than the video driver setting I can't think of anything :/ |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: ok. |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: can you look at those two configs? |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: the server's working nearly perfectly with the stripped-down config. |
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| 22:44 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: but then again I can't be too sure either way, you're better off doing an elimination test |
| 22:45 |
Uberi |
what is the issue with the server? |
| 22:45 |
markveidemanis |
so non-noclip is in default now? |
| 22:45 |
Uberi |
markveidemanis: apparently |
| 22:45 |
markveidemanis |
then i am not updating |
| 22:45 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: mapgen failing to either load blocks or send them to the client. |
| 22:46 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: oh is it that hanging issue? |
| 22:46 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 22:46 |
Uberi |
there was a mapgen debug setting in there, I think |
| 22:46 |
Uberi |
but you probably added that after experiencing the issue, huh |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
I stripped down my config file to just what's in that first link (except my motd is much longer than seen there - copy&paste error) |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: yes, that was suggested by hmmmm to try to find the issue |
| 22:47 |
Uberi |
is the hanging reproducible? |
| 22:47 |
Uberi |
can you make it happen by doing something specific? |
| 22:48 |
sokomine |
INFO[EmergeThread]: on_generated took 4324ms |
| 22:48 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 22:48 |
sokomine |
that is for vanessas world with the same mods installed as she has. computer not doing much more than running server + one client (ok, there are other things running as well, but their load is neglible) |
| 22:49 |
landmineog |
I |
| 22:49 |
Uberi |
landmineog: ! |
| 22:49 |
Uberi |
er, OK |
| 22:49 |
Uberi |
sokomine: does it happen with a new map? |
| 22:50 |
sokomine |
yes; although without mods (vanessas world has a lot installed) it is by factor 10 less |
| 22:51 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: ores. |
| 22:53 |
markveidemanis |
i am going to bed anyone want my server to stay up? |
| 22:53 |
markveidemanis |
no? |
| 22:54 |
markveidemanis |
bye |
| 22:54 |
markveidemanis |
cya tomorrow |
| 22:54 |
marktraceur |
Cod damn it. |
| 22:55 |
sokomine |
hm? |
| 22:55 |
sokomine |
sleep well |
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| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
ok... here's the config file with the changes merged into my script. What is commented out is what was missing from the "working" config: http://pastebin.com/8KRxHRdc |
| 22:58 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: creative_mode = 1 enable_damage = 1 #video_driver = null name = VanessaEz - Pastebin.com |
| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
can someone PLEASE tell me why any of those commented-out options would break it? |
| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
and I'm about two seconds from kicking that bot out. |
| 22:59 |
sokomine |
if i walk at normal speed in your world, vanessa, it generates fast enough. i see empty space ahead of me, but when i arrive it is ready to walk on. just fast seems too fast for my computer |
| 22:59 |
sokomine |
which bot? |
| 22:59 |
Uberi |
moltenbot, sokomine |
| 22:59 |
NakedFury |
add pastebin to moltenbots ignore urls |
| 22:59 |
mauvebic |
imo bots should only say when servers UP/DOWN |
| 22:59 |
iqualfragile |
ok… |
| 22:59 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: I've always been able to outrun the mapgen in 'fast' mode, even in singleplayer mode on a fresh world with no extra mods. |
| 23:00 |
mauvebic |
everything else increases my urge to kill :( |
| 23:00 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 23:00 |
sokomine |
ah. moltenbot's still on my igno list after ragnar played with it. the world gets a lot quieter with a bit igno :-) |
| 23:01 |
Uberi |
well yeah I can always outrun mapgen when in fast mode |
| 23:01 |
sokomine |
thanks :-) so it's not just my computer that is too slow for it |
| 23:01 |
iqualfragile |
ragnar… should add him to ignore |
| 23:01 |
iqualfragile |
will add him to ignore |
| 23:01 |
iqualfragile |
later that day |
| 23:02 |
sokomine |
but as i said earlier...it is still way faster than minecraft :-) minecraft can't manage transparent leaves with the same hardware |
| 23:04 |
sokomine |
here as well |
| 23:04 |
mauvebic |
no point adding ppl to ignore they come back w/ diff names |
| 23:04 |
NakedFury |
add /bot ignore [this stupid user] command to only work for bot owner |
| 23:04 |
sokomine |
yes, sometimes |
| 23:04 |
NakedFury |
easy |
| 23:05 |
mauvebic |
we need to track them down, and dispatch a klingon bird of prey |
| 23:05 |
sokomine |
make that usable for some regulars in the channel. that could help :-) |
| 23:05 |
NakedFury |
nah too mercyful |
| 23:05 |
NakedFury |
release the borg on them |
| 23:06 |
sokomine |
they'd just capture it, slingshot around a convenient sun, and alter history so that they where never ignored by the bot :-) |
| 23:06 |
mauvebic |
though in the irclogs i see these long hostnames you can prolly use that to ban them :P |
| 23:06 |
kaeza1 |
VanessaE: remove movestones for now |
| 23:06 |
kaeza1 |
or has the crash been fixed? |
| 23:06 |
Uberi |
kaeza1: movestones were fixed |
| 23:06 |
kaeza1 |
oh ok |
| 23:06 |
Uberi |
a few hours ago, in fact |
| 23:06 |
kaeza1 |
good |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
you sure? |
| 23:07 |
Uberi |
yeah I saw the commit |
| 23:07 |
mauvebic |
map still down? |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: my server's running normally now with that stripped-down config. |
| 23:07 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: but ONLY in the nextgen branch |
| 23:07 |
Uberi |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/f114cb8ddcbb2e007889a6bf45b8b3383c793756 |
| 23:07 |
moltenbot |
Uberi's link: Fix movestone crash bug ? f114cb8 ? Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons ? GitHub |
| 23:08 |
KikaRz |
guys |
| 23:08 |
KikaRz |
im going out... |
| 23:08 |
KikaRz |
i dont want tomorrow the world end... |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
Bye people... |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
If the world ends... Its the end. |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
bye... <3 |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
i loved you all |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, you were a good big friend... |
| 23:09 |
VanessaE |
hah the world won't end |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
kaeza1, you too... a special one. |
| 23:09 |
mauvebic |
stripped down as in disabling alot of mods/abms? |
| 23:09 |
kaeza1 |
huh? |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, you were a bit special for me... but not only for me. |
| 23:09 |
kaeza1 |
oh |
| 23:09 |
VanessaE |
now get on my server and play - you have 10-15 mins before the next scheduled restart of the server :-) |
| 23:09 |
kaeza1 |
thx |
| 23:09 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, im going out |
| 23:10 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: See you tomorrow! |
| 23:10 |
kaeza1 |
and you too KikaRz |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
see you tomorrow KikaRz |
| 23:10 |
KikaRz |
Bye everyone... See you tomorrow or... See you in Heaven / Hell. |
| 23:10 |
kaeza1 |
see you |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
nooooo |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
don't do anything too rash, though |
| 23:10 |
KikaRz |
Why i said Hell? (i commited many problems and lied many times. |
| 23:10 |
KikaRz |
See you all tomorrow. |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
o/ |
| 23:10 |
kaeza1 |
in that case I think no one of us is going to heaven KikaRz |
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| 23:10 |
kaeza1 |
:P |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: if you are truly sorry for the things you've done and tried to make it right by your diety i.e. G*d or whoever, you'll be fine. |
| 23:11 |
mauvebic |
well if youre server is a PITA, you could always WEP most of your stuff and "transplant" to a new map |
| 23:11 |
VanessaE |
(besides I don't believe in "hell" anyway |
| 23:11 |
KikaRz |
I dont. |
| 23:11 |
Uberi |
the great sky potato will be lenient in his judgement |
| 23:11 |
KikaRz |
Hell dont exists |
| 23:11 |
KikaRz |
neither the nether. |
| 23:11 |
Uberi |
ALL HAIL SKY SPUD |
| 23:11 |
mauvebic |
my gods are dead |
| 23:12 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: See you in /dev/null |
| 23:12 |
mauvebic |
ancient klingons and al... |
| 23:12 |
KikaRz |
no marktraceur, see you in TMP. |
| 23:12 |
marktraceur |
Ugh, nobody wants to be in /tmp |
| 23:12 |
mauvebic |
thats because flash doesnt store anything there anymore |
| 23:12 |
marktraceur |
I guess it might be worse to be in /opt |
| 23:12 |
VanessaE |
ok, make that more like 3 minutes - server restarted with the latest build |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
/tmp is the purgatory that files go through to be cleansed before being able to pass on to /dev/null |
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KikaRz |
Now:http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=155 |
| 23:13 |
KikaRz |
!c 23 - 17 |
| 23:13 |
Minetest-tan |
6 |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: say what time does the world supposedly end |
| 23:13 |
mauvebic |
'/opt has return to castle woflenstein at least |
| 23:13 |
KikaRz |
ok... in 6 hours, the world ends. |
| 23:13 |
KikaRz |
so... at 5 AM, |
| 23:13 |
Octupus |
Hi |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
GMT I mean |
| 23:13 |
KittenGNU |
6 AM here. |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
hey Octupus |
| 23:13 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, 5 AM in (GMT) |
| 23:13 |
kaeza1 |
!date Uruguay |
| 23:14 |
kaeza1 |
? |
| 23:14 |
Uberi |
ah |
| 23:14 |
KikaRz |
!date Portugal |
| 23:14 |
marktraceur |
Yea, and on the day of the end, the Child Process shall return and `mv * /tmp` where it then shall `sort` the worthy from the unworthy, running `mv * /home` for the former and `mv * /dev/null` for the latter. |
| 23:14 |
Uberi |
bwahahaha |
| 23:15 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur |
| 23:15 |
Uberi |
ls `yes` |
| 23:15 |
KikaRz |
i'll move Portugal to /dev/null |
| 23:15 |
KikaRz |
so... |
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| 23:15 |
KikaRz |
and moving World to /home |
| 23:15 |
KikaRz |
and me and my family to /root |
| 23:15 |
kaeza1 |
marktraceur: all hail master `init'! creator if it all |
| 23:15 |
KikaRz |
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=155 |
| 23:15 |
ecube |
Why to root though? |
| 23:16 |
Uberi |
to be closer to our origin |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
Look the weather |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
Night: 4ºC |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
Morning: 3ºC |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
Afternoon 20ºC |
| 23:16 |
mauvebic |
damn |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
no signals of end of world |
| 23:16 |
mauvebic |
sounds nice |
| 23:16 |
sokomine |
oh...if the files could but sort themshelves...that would be great :-) all those you never going to need again removing themshelves...and the other sorting into helpful directories.... |
| 23:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza1: And lo, the UNIXites did listen, and a voice came from the processor. "Hear me now, ye users. For I am upstart, and I am your new creator! Cast aside thy init-worship and instead worship me, for I am thy saviour!" |
| 23:16 |
mauvebic |
im freezing my asterisk out here |
| 23:17 |
mauvebic |
i even did my back in shovelling snow lol |
| 23:18 |
KikaRz |
well |
| 23:18 |
KikaRz |
people |
| 23:18 |
KikaRz |
see you in heaven. |
| 23:18 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: worship not the false idol of sysinit, or face eternal damnation in the pits of /dev/null! |
| 23:18 |
KikaRz |
ly all! <3 |
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| 23:20 |
mauvebic |
eternal damnation is updating binary graphics drivers lol |
| 23:20 |
mauvebic |
many such occasions have nearly driven me to suicide |
| 23:20 |
FreeFull |
Eternal damnation is not having package management in place |
| 23:20 |
marktraceur |
AKA "the 1980s" |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
the unworthy files must install binary graphics drivers for an eternity |
| 23:21 |
mauvebic |
why has no one thought of arch linux + synaptic? i would pay for that |
| 23:21 |
NakedFury |
I think Eternal Damnation is vaporware. abandoned in the 8 da, the developer got lazy |
| 23:21 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Largely the point of having different distros is to have different package management, and different repositories. |
| 23:21 |
mauvebic |
i think distros are more than package management |
| 23:21 |
mauvebic |
xfce isnt the same on ubuntu as it is on arch |
| 23:22 |
marktraceur |
Well right, they have different versions. |
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| 23:22 |
mauvebic |
ubuntu for starters patches way more stuff than the other distros |
| 23:22 |
kaeza |
eternal damnation is running a suid root web browser |
| 23:22 |
mauvebic |
which is often why things just dont work these days lol |
| 23:22 |
FreeFull |
Debian does quite a bit of patchiing |
| 23:22 |
marktraceur |
So probably the better way to go would be to take Debian, change the versions of packages, and release it as Debiarch GNU/Linux |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
or use Bedrock as the base |
| 23:22 |
FreeFull |
Gentoo is mostly whatever you want it to be |
| 23:23 |
mauvebic |
i like archbang cuz' you start with your very basic desktop and build up from there |
| 23:23 |
mauvebic |
ubuntu is + 6 hours of removing crap |
| 23:23 |
FreeFull |
mauvebic: I like Arch because you start with your basic almost nothing and build up from there |
| 23:23 |
* marktraceur |
keeps meaning to move to Parabola. Bugger of a hard time, though. |
| 23:23 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: nah I spent over 15 hours removing :P |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
FreeFull: but arch is no good for the user making a switch from Win |
| 23:24 |
FreeFull |
True |
| 23:24 |
mauvebic |
im not such an enthusiast that i would start with pure arch though lol |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
they just want to start right away |
| 23:24 |
mauvebic |
but i like how many of the packages on arch do work |
| 23:24 |
FreeFull |
I personally started with SuSE |
| 23:24 |
FreeFull |
But then, my first ever OS was MS-DOS |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
me with Puppy |
| 23:24 |
mauvebic |
which was a problem on buntu when something was slightly old (+6 months) |
| 23:25 |
kaeza |
and Win95 |
| 23:26 |
mauvebic |
and in ubuntu filing bug reports is pointless because in six months theyll have removed the packages anyhow lol |
| 23:26 |
FreeFull |
Arch means maintenance isn't done for you by the distro people |
| 23:26 |
FreeFull |
You have to merge some changes yourself |
| 23:26 |
mauvebic |
no but arch + synaptic would make maintenance easier |
| 23:26 |
FreeFull |
Mostly just config stuff though |
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| 23:27 |
shaun__ |
Chakara |
| 23:27 |
shaun__ |
Arch with desktop already. |
| 23:27 |
kaeza |
Arch is good though, for when you want to have almost total control over your OS |
| 23:27 |
mauvebic |
well, a synaptic-like frontend for pacman... |
| 23:27 |
shaun__ |
qt-applet is good frontend for pacman. |
| 23:28 |
mauvebic |
didnt work for me |
| 23:28 |
mauvebic |
none of the frontends have worked for me (all 3) lol |
| 23:28 |
shaun__ |
Its resource hungry and can't cope with major changes. |
| 23:28 |
kaeza |
shaagreed |
| 23:28 |
kaeza |
fuck tab completion |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
shaun_ ^ |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
agreed |
| 23:29 |
mauvebic |
though i think overall, arch is on better track than 'buntu |
| 23:29 |
mauvebic |
i have old P4's to think about lol |
| 23:29 |
shaun__ |
But all in all. I am very unpleased with the help you get in Arch channel. |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: you can run Puppy Linux out of a P2 lol |
| 23:29 |
mauvebic |
arch on my P4 or the dualcore works nicely for both |
| 23:30 |
kaeza |
you need only 32MB |
| 23:30 |
kaeza |
of RAM |
| 23:30 |
mauvebic |
arch help is no worse than any other distro, they say FIY |
| 23:30 |
mauvebic |
or they refer you to a post from a year ago that doesnt apply lol |
| 23:30 |
kaeza |
FOSS help sucks |
| 23:30 |
mauvebic |
problem is noone's paid |
| 23:31 |
kaeza |
yeh |
| 23:31 |
shaun__ |
The help I see people giving in this channel is grade A compared to the grade y you get in arch channels. |
| 23:31 |
mauvebic |
try finding someone with the same problem at the same time as you |
| 23:31 |
kaeza |
so basically you get the help you paid for lol |
| 23:31 |
mauvebic |
but FOSS OS's is built on the principal that you fix the problem yourself and share the patch |
| 23:32 |
mauvebic |
though advertising to average PC users doesn't really fit into that |
| 23:32 |
mauvebic |
if you have a problem you can't be average anymore lol |
| 23:32 |
kaeza |
tell me of an average Win user that knows about command line and fixing things for yourself? |
| 23:33 |
mauvebic |
knowing dos definately helps for first time linux users |
| 23:33 |
mauvebic |
i would have been lost in the terminal otherwise |
| 23:33 |
kaeza |
that does not happen too often with the average *nix user |
| 23:33 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 23:33 |
kaeza |
right |
| 23:33 |
mauvebic |
over-reliance on GUI's is a problem.. |
| 23:33 |
kaeza |
I used to use MD to create dirs on windows |
| 23:34 |
kaeza |
no right-click->new->floder |
| 23:34 |
mauvebic |
hell the first graphical OS i saw was window 3 |
| 23:34 |
mauvebic |
i nearly shat myself (then) |
| 23:34 |
mauvebic |
color monitors was another milestone lol |
| 23:35 |
kaeza |
lol right |
| 23:35 |
mauvebic |
14 and 28K modems |
| 23:35 |
kaeza |
who had hard drives then? lol |
| 23:35 |
mauvebic |
obviously someone like me doesn't need GUIs for everything lol |
| 23:35 |
shaun__ |
I did. About 100mb drives. |
| 23:36 |
kaeza |
yeh |
| 23:36 |
kaeza |
but they were pretty expensive |
| 23:36 |
shaun__ |
Yea. |
| 23:36 |
kaeza |
they literally throw 80GB drives at you now |
| 23:36 |
mauvebic |
15 ~ 20 years ago you'd paid 2K for a shitty computer lol |
| 23:37 |
shaun__ |
Heh...Can still pay that if your not careful. |
| 23:37 |
mauvebic |
old people pay that to check lottery results |
| 23:37 |
shaun__ |
Gahh...buntu wants reboot. brb. |
| 23:37 |
mauvebic |
thats only cuz their kids dont go with them |
| 23:37 |
kaeza |
reboot? |
| 23:38 |
kaeza |
back on DOS era you were stuck with floppies |
| 23:38 |
mauvebic |
reboot? p4 going on 17 days uptime lol |
| 23:38 |
mauvebic |
i still remember all the sex jokes about floppies... over and over |
| 23:38 |
kaeza |
hehe |
| 23:39 |
mauvebic |
then it was discs... |
| 23:39 |
mauvebic |
at least you cant compare a thumb drive to anything unless your very unfortunate |
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| 23:40 |
kaeza |
lol I remember when having an 8x CDROM drive was cool |
| 23:40 |
Aqua |
Hi |
| 23:40 |
kaeza |
hey Aqua |
| 23:40 |
mauvebic |
when myst was *the* shit lol |
| 23:40 |
Aqua |
hey kaeza have you played my map? |
| 23:40 |
mauvebic |
though 90s music was as bad then as it is now |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
Aqua: update? |
| 23:41 |
Aqua |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4153 |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: think of JB and you'll regret about that comment |
| 23:41 |
mauvebic |
then of course there was celine dion in my country, we all expected the appocalypse there and then |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
hehe |
| 23:41 |
Aqua |
I'm gonna make a map bout apocalypse maybe because today the world is ending |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
It seems Link has not found Majora's mask yet |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
so yep |
| 23:42 |
mauvebic |
im still looking for the sword of kahless |
| 23:42 |
mauvebic |
i have the shroud |
| 23:43 |
kaeza |
I'm still stuck in the beginning :( |
| 23:43 |
mauvebic |
im lost |
| 23:43 |
kaeza |
? |
| 23:43 |
* mauvebic |
breaks out the palm beacons |
| 23:45 |
kaeza |
Aqua: checking |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
Aqua: does it come with the mods as I suggested? |
| 23:49 |
Aqua |
which mods? |
| 23:49 |
Aqua |
Oh sadly no |
| 23:49 |
Aqua |
I forgot how to do it |
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KikaRz |
Breaking news... |
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| 23:50 |
KikaRz |
10 minutes left for B'ak'tun era finished |
| 23:50 |
Uberi |
did the world end prematurely? |
| 23:50 |
KikaRz |
in GMT |
| 23:50 |
KikaRz |
http://worldends.in/ |
| 23:50 |
Uberi |
man, I didn't get the memo |
| 23:50 |
Uberi |
y'all should tell me sooner before ending the world like that |
| 23:51 |
KikaRz |
9 minutes. |
| 23:51 |
mauvebic |
according to star trek our world would end in a conflict between the west and a coalition of the east :p |
| 23:51 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: wait what does that mean, ends in GMT? |
| 23:51 |
Octupus |
<Aqua> I'm gonna make a map bout apocalypse maybe because today the world is ending |
| 23:52 |
Octupus |
NO Aqua NO |
| 23:52 |
KikaRz |
8 minutes left |
| 23:52 |
KikaRz |
No Uberi |
| 23:52 |
mauvebic |
im gonna nuke the first city on my map :D |
| 23:52 |
Aqua |
I neraly finished my map..... |
| 23:52 |
Aqua |
you know the movie 2012? |
| 23:52 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 23:52 |
KikaRz |
that movie sucks |
| 23:52 |
KikaRz |
7 minutes left |
| 23:53 |
Uberi |
that movie had some alright visual effects |
| 23:53 |
KikaRz |
my mom is telling me to go to bed... |
| 23:53 |
KikaRz |
im getting more afraid... |
| 23:53 |
Uberi |
and bring the flashlights and rations with you |
| 23:54 |
KikaRz |
6 minutes left |
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| 23:54 |
Aqua |
When i grow up(if i do) i'll show my children that movie and tell them i survived that |
| 23:54 |
Octupus |
il be watching tv in the next 6 minutes :D |
| 23:54 |
KikaRz |
5 minutes left |
| 23:55 |
KikaRz |
Wrong Octupus, just 5 |
| 23:55 |
Uberi |
eh I think I'll chill out while the world supposedly ends |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 23:55 |
Octupus |
IL STIL BE WATCHING TV |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
as I said before, grab a bag of popcorn, go sit at your laptop or PC, play some minetest, and let the world pass you by for the next day or so. |
| 23:56 |
Aqua |
IM IN MY BUNKER |
| 23:56 |
* Uberi |
goes off to play some AoS |
| 23:56 |
Aqua |
3 MINS GUYS |
| 23:56 |
Aqua |
AND GIRLS |
| 23:56 |
marktraceur |
For UTC, maybe |
| 23:57 |
Uberi |
wait what time zone is the right one |
| 23:57 |
Octupus |
VanessaE: im eating that cereal :) |
| 23:57 |
VanessaE |
EST of course. |
| 23:57 |
KikaRz |
2:30!!! |
| 23:57 |
Uberi |
I don't wanna listen to people saying, "seriously guys, it's in THAT time zone" for the next day |
| 23:57 |
VanessaE |
doesn't the whole world go by US eastern time? :-) |
| 23:57 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Central/Yucatan time seems to make sense to most people. |
| 23:57 |
KikaRz |
2 Minutes left... |
| 23:57 |
Uberi |
but they didn't even HAVE time zones back then |
| 23:58 |
KikaRz |
AFRAID!!! |
| 23:58 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Yeah they did, they just didn't know about there being more than one. |
| 23:58 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, which one? |
| 23:58 |
VanessaE |
nothing's gonna happen, KikaRz. |
| 23:58 |
KikaRz |
ALERT: 1 minute and 30 seconds left. Core corruption at 79% |
| 23:58 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: well yeah I suppose you could put it that way |
| 23:58 |
Aqua |
Did you know the calendar starts again after the blank? |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
coool |
| 23:59 |
Aqua |
Which means some people survives |
| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
I/O error reading /tmp/mayan-calendar.sh: unexpected EOF |
| 23:59 |
Aqua |
and starts a new world |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
Generating Terrain... |
| 23:59 |
Aqua |
30 |
| 23:59 |
Aqua |
25 |
| 23:59 |
marktraceur |
I mean it's not like you could say "Dear mama, I'm writing you at 12:30. What time is it there?", you'd get a response three weeks later like "It was nary but 13:00 when the postman arrived, dear!" |
