Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
cisoun |
any 0.4.4 server ? |
00:01 |
Octupus |
Can any1 who is good with mods how do i make a mesepick instant? |
00:02 |
Octupus |
im making a mod how do i make the blocks instant |
00:02 |
Octupus |
*pick |
00:02 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: Would you elaborate on that, please? |
00:03 |
Octupus |
im making apick and i want it to be instant |
00:03 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: Then wherever you see a smallish number, add a really big number. Tada!!!! |
00:04 |
marktraceur |
Or maybe it's the other way 'round. I don't know. |
00:04 |
NakedFury |
cisoun: I think all minetest.org 30000 to 30014 servers are 0.4.4 |
00:04 |
Octupus |
marktraceur u are talking about the uses |
00:05 |
Octupus |
RealBadAngel,how do i make a block instant |
00:05 |
Octupus |
*pick |
00:05 |
cisoun |
NakedFury: weird I can't reach any server... |
00:06 |
NakedFury |
it is up |
00:07 |
NakedFury |
im connecting |
00:07 |
cisoun |
damn |
00:07 |
cisoun |
I made a mistake at one entry |
00:07 |
cisoun |
nevermind |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
00:07 |
NakedFury |
there is an european server too but i dont remember the name now |
00:07 |
NakedFury |
maybe europe.minetest.org |
00:08 |
VanessaE |
cisoun: there's also my lagfest...er...server at 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
00:10 |
cisoun |
this white font in the menu is getting me crazy |
00:10 |
cisoun |
I can't see what I'm typing |
00:10 |
cisoun |
FFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- |
00:10 |
VanessaE |
your version of irrlicht is too new, no? |
00:11 |
cisoun |
wait |
00:11 |
cisoun |
1.8-1 |
00:11 |
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00:11 |
Octupus |
hi VanessaE |
00:11 |
VanessaE |
that's too new |
00:11 |
VanessaE |
MT only works right with the 1.7 series I guess |
00:11 |
cisoun |
meh... |
00:12 |
cisoun |
goddamn media files are slow to download on minetest.org |
00:12 |
cisoun |
I should go to sleep |
00:14 |
VanessaE |
nooooo |
00:14 |
hohoho |
lol sleep is for the deaaaad |
00:15 |
* hohoho |
wishes he could remember his registered nicks password.. or password to email :/ |
00:15 |
hohoho |
<-- RAPHAEL |
00:15 |
hohoho |
lol |
00:15 |
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00:18 |
iqualfragile |
the new design of http://minetest.net is nice |
00:18 |
moltenbot |
iqualfragiles link: About - Minetest |
00:18 |
NakedFury |
yep it is |
00:19 |
hohoho |
I agree it is nice as well |
00:20 |
Octupus |
wow im helping with 2 mods and making my own at the same time i feel special |
00:21 |
NakedFury |
dammit I just ate and im still hungry |
00:23 |
Octupus |
NakedFury,its the way of life |
00:34 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: minor update to plantlife if you are interested. |
00:38 |
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00:39 |
iqualfragile |
NakedFury: the bot also posts youtube-video-titles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc |
00:39 |
moltenbot |
iqualfragiles link: Die Antwoord - "Fatty Boom Boom" (Official Video) - YouTube |
00:40 |
NakedFury |
didnt know that |
00:41 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder you still here |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
apparently not |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
now THAT is a handy function for the bot. |
00:49 |
NakedFury |
he said bbl |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
translate a youtube link into a human-readable title. |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
Back |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, I was out as announced above but am back |
00:57 |
NakedFury |
welcome back |
00:57 |
babyface1031 |
ok i saw i didnt knwo if you got back yet |
00:57 |
babyface1031 |
but i played with the code on the bridges and was able to get it to work with one change |
00:58 |
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00:59 |
babyface1031 |
if you change where it says WOOD = stairs:wood_slab to WOOD = default:wood it works |
01:00 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: And by "works" you mean "is easier"? |
01:00 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: The documented craft recipe uses wood slabs, as I understand it |
01:00 |
sdzen |
I would believe so whats wrong with wood slabs? |
01:00 |
babyface1031 |
no we coiuldnt get the recipe to work when it was the wood slab i |
01:00 |
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01:01 |
LandMineMT |
wassssusp |
01:01 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: Make sure the name for wood slabs hasn't changed? |
01:01 |
sdzen |
ello landmine |
01:01 |
bulletrulz |
LandMineMT, Hello |
01:01 |
sdzen |
done any greiving lately? |
01:01 |
LandMineMT |
nah |
01:01 |
LandMineMT |
busy with school |
01:01 |
LandMineMT |
i was playing on a pvp server |
01:01 |
LandMineMT |
but its not that fun |
01:01 |
LandMineMT |
im super pro |
01:02 |
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01:02 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: New stairs seems to use slab_MATERIAL, rather than the other way 'round. I'd suggest submitting a patch. |
01:03 |
babyface1031 |
ok i will try that to see if that works cause slabs would make more since |
01:04 |
LandMineMT |
hey babyface1031 you miss me gurl???? |
01:05 |
babyface1031 |
i re looked at the code it does say stairs:slab_wood on the code |
01:05 |
Octupus |
hi LandMineMT |
01:05 |
LandMineMT |
hi octu |
01:06 |
Octupus |
i was on the pvp server but they shut it down :( |
01:06 |
LandMineMT |
yeah did he say why? |
01:09 |
Octupus |
no |
01:09 |
Octupus |
all ik i killed a dude who had 14 stacks of mithril :D |
01:10 |
LandMineMT |
wow |
01:10 |
LandMineMT |
i stole most of chadggg stuff |
01:10 |
LandMineMT |
if you went to his mine shaft |
01:10 |
LandMineMT |
you would find open chest with stuff in it |
01:10 |
LandMineMT |
im so smart lol |
01:11 |
LandMineMT |
what i did was this |
01:11 |
LandMineMT |
i made a teleporter |
01:11 |
LandMineMT |
so when you toss an object with Q over a teleporter |
01:11 |
LandMineMT |
it teleports |
01:11 |
LandMineMT |
so i made a teleporter everytime my inventory was full |
01:11 |
LandMineMT |
and teleport it all to spawn lol |
01:12 |
LandMineMT |
then when i was over stealing his stuff |
01:12 |
LandMineMT |
i went and saved everything in chest |
01:12 |
LandMineMT |
had to telepoort my whole inventory 4 times |
01:12 |
LandMineMT |
all full with diamonds and titanium |
01:13 |
babyface1031 |
marktracerur i think i found the proble but not positive the recipe for a stair:slab_wood it the same and a wood pressure plate |
01:13 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: That may be it. Also, learn to tab-complete |
01:14 |
Octupus |
b4 i take a picture of my mod shud i add tnt to it after all it is a tool moid :D |
01:14 |
babyface1031 |
tab complete? |
01:14 |
Octupus |
lol |
01:15 |
Octupus |
im going to make a tnt :) |
01:15 |
Octupus |
so i had 4 tools and tnt |
01:15 |
babyface1031 |
Octupus do you know what mod it the wood slab other that stairs |
01:15 |
Octupus |
stairs |
01:17 |
babyface1031 |
i have made wood slab with 3 wood on the bottom of the craft grid i was wondering what mod that is cause it wont work in the bridge mod |
01:18 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: Type "mar" and then press tab, in your IRC window. |
01:18 |
babyface1031 |
marktraceur: oh neat |
01:18 |
babyface1031 |
ty |
01:18 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: No problem |
01:20 |
babyface1031 |
now if i could figure out what mod it the 3 wood on the bottom to make a slab i could fix the bridge mod right |
01:20 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: Alternatively, change the recipe yourself and be on your way |
01:22 |
Octupus |
wow that is so easy now i dont need to type ut the whole name |
01:22 |
babyface1031 |
Octupus: we both learned something new :D |
01:22 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: Sadly tab-complete for normal words is still a distant dream :) |
01:22 |
Octupus |
:) |
01:22 |
Octupus |
babyface1031, can i do the idea with the colours of the glass |
01:23 |
Octupus |
with green blue and green |
01:23 |
Octupus |
*red :D |
01:23 |
babyface1031 |
still looking at codes to learn a lil more first |
01:24 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: If you have questions, we're always happy to help! :) |
01:24 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: #minetest-mods e.g. |
01:24 |
babyface1031 |
ok i just started playing with mods since i liked the bridge mod and it didnt work so i tryed to fix it |
01:26 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: i just tryed it with a diffrent wood slab and it work i used the moreblocks:slab_wood in the code |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
For bridges? |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
Could you make a paste that explains how to do it? Or post to the mod thread at the forum? |
01:30 |
Octupus |
OldCoder, i got a mod for you in about 10 - 15 mins |
01:30 |
Octupus |
:D |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Hi |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
k |
01:34 |
Octupus |
hello |
01:36 |
Octupus |
OldCoder,hello https://github.com/Octupuslegs/Blocks/downloads |
01:37 |
Octupus |
octutool is the 1 |
01:37 |
Octupus |
is there a forum moderator that can move my topic? |
01:37 |
* marktraceur |
is going to start carrying around large foam blocks with URLs painted on them |
01:37 |
marktraceur |
"Hello sir" *throws large foam block at person* |
01:37 |
Octupus |
VanessaE,can u do this for me? |
01:38 |
bulletrulz |
GIVE ME 20 DOLLARS |
01:38 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Reviewing |
01:38 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: No. |
01:38 |
Octupus |
:) |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, This is an update of the mod I call octublock, right? |
01:40 |
Octupus |
no |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
https://github.com/downloads/Octupuslegs/Blocks/octublock.zip |
01:40 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: kinda busy at the moment - can you please add a post to the "mod move requests" thread? thanks. |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, I have that one; is it the same? |
01:40 |
Octupus |
ok :) |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
https://github.com/downloads/Octupuslegs/Blocks/octublock.zip |
01:40 |
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01:40 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hi |
01:40 |
Octupus |
hi face |
01:40 |
Octupus |
oldcoderthere is 2 files in the |
01:40 |
babyface1031 |
hi sorry about that i think i timed out |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, octublock and octutool. |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
Update and new mod |
01:41 |
Octupus |
*there i stopped developping octublock for a little |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
is that right? |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
Update and new mod ? |
01:41 |
Octupus |
just new mod |
01:41 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: did you see what i said about the bridge mod? |
01:41 |
Octupus |
i need need to make better textures for octublock |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, yes |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Will you post an explanation of how to use it to the mod thread? And should I keep the mod? |
01:42 |
babyface1031 |
the mod works other that where it uses stair:slab_wood |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Update and new mod? |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, can you explain? |
01:42 |
babyface1031 |
stair:slab_wood and the presure plates are the same recipe |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, if it's all right, explain a bit |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Update and new mod? |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
Both? |
01:43 |
Octupus |
just new mod friend :) |
01:44 |
Octupus |
update not yet prob start to make better texture tomorrow |
01:44 |
OldCoder |
all right |
01:44 |
Octupus |
gracias again OC |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
octutool going in shortly |
01:45 |
babyface1031 |
when making the bridge basis it uses a wood slab and the wood slab it uses that recipe is the same as the presure plate so when you try to make a stair:slab_wood in the craft window you get a wood presure plate |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, should I keep bridges then? |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, I am sorry but I don't follow. Is there a way to make bridges work? |
01:45 |
babyface1031 |
as long as we change the wood slab to a slab ppl can make |
01:46 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, should I change the mod? |
01:47 |
babyface1031 |
yes i was trying to see waht wood slab is that we can make to change it too but i dont know what mod it is in the the recipe is wood in the bottom 3 spots in the craft window |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, I'd better remove bridges until the explanation is clear |
01:47 |
babyface1031 |
ok |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
Not sure I follow; can bridges be made to work? |
01:47 |
Octupus |
well im done with octublock/ool tonight |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, adding in a minute |
01:47 |
Octupus |
OC yes by changing the slab to a regular wooden block |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, I will patch the mod then |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
01:48 |
Octupus |
ik i mean like im tired and my brain hurts to continue |
01:48 |
Octupus |
:D |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, then relax! |
01:48 |
Octupus |
XD :D |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
Really |
01:48 |
Octupus |
what? |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
Relax and have fun |
01:49 |
Octupus |
ooo yes |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
stairs:slab_wood |
01:49 |
Octupus |
now i am building ma house :) |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
Good |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
What should this be: |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
stairs:slab_wood |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
? |
01:49 |
Octupus |
default:wood |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, babyface1031 ? |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
That is all |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
I change and it may work? |
01:49 |
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01:49 |
babyface1031 |
yes if it is that it does work |
01:49 |
Octupus |
face said it did |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
We will try it now! |
01:49 |
Octupus |
:D |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
Changes coming in a minute |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
octutool added! bridges fixed! |
01:50 |
babyface1031 |
ok |
01:50 |
leo_in-game |
<singleplayer> I forgot about the IRC mod. I was like "why are people talking to me in singleplayer!?" |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
Are there any other mod changes or additions at this time? |
01:50 |
babyface1031 |
i dont think |
01:51 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: I have released my modpack, but no need to add it :) |
01:51 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, what is in it? |
01:51 |
OldCoder |
Link to thread is? |
01:51 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Transactors, which I think you saw already, and factories |
01:51 |
OldCoder |
They are high CPU? |
01:52 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: I haven't tested with more than one or two, but it shouldn't be too bad |
01:52 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
01:52 |
moltenbot |
marktraceurs link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
01:52 |
OldCoder |
Interesting; I will review in the near future |
01:52 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps a Factories World |
01:52 |
babyface1031 |
marktraceur: i have yours on singleplayer testing them |
01:52 |
OldCoder |
Worlds are cycling! |
01:52 |
* VanessaE |
pokes OldCoder in his private messages. ;) |
01:53 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, k |
01:54 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, do you wish octutool in most of the worlds or just 30004? |
01:55 |
Octupus |
OC what ever u wish to do :D |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, babyface1031 others: restarting |
01:57 |
babyface1031 |
ok |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
Test Bridges. Test Octutool. |
01:57 |
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01:58 |
Octupus |
Sapo |
01:59 |
babyface1031 |
the bridge mod works now |
02:00 |
Octupus |
i gtg in 5 mins |
02:00 |
Octupus |
its late here |
02:02 |
Octupus |
gtg every1 have a good night |
02:07 |
LandMineMT |
omg!!! a was stung by a bee!!! i know this is gods punishment for not going to church on sunday |
02:08 |
bulletrulz |
LandMineMT, lol |
02:08 |
bulletrulz |
god wont punish you if u did not go to church |
02:08 |
bulletrulz |
if he exsiscts |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, ty! |
02:09 |
babyface1031 |
no problem |
02:09 |
bulletrulz |
babyface1031, im a heel |
02:09 |
LandMineMT |
bulletrulz he does exist... |
02:10 |
bulletrulz |
LandMineMT, maybe maybe not |
02:10 |
bulletrulz |
he could exsist |
02:10 |
LandMineMT |
wait...why are you saying that? he DOES exist...there is no arguing abou tit |
02:10 |
bulletrulz |
LandMineMT, where is your proof? |
02:11 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: Meet LandMineMT, he's a troll |
02:11 |
bulletrulz |
exactly |
02:11 |
babyface1031 |
what is a good program to make textures of mods |
02:11 |
bulletrulz |
marktraceur, i know |
02:11 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: GIMP |
02:11 |
bulletrulz |
but LandMineMT got any proof? |
02:11 |
bulletrulz |
Nope |
02:12 |
bulletrulz |
so in all probalitiy he does not exist |
02:12 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence |
02:12 |
bulletrulz |
marktraceur, it is |
02:12 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
02:12 |
bulletrulz |
if theres no evidence |
02:12 |
LandMineMT |
there doesnt have to be prove |
02:12 |
LandMineMT |
its like air |
02:12 |
bulletrulz |
then he hasnt done anything |
02:13 |
LandMineMT |
you cant see it |
02:13 |
LandMineMT |
but you can feel it |
02:13 |
bulletrulz |
God Might exist but i Dont think he does |
02:13 |
LandMineMT |
he does |
02:13 |
bulletrulz |
He might agian but in all probalitlty he doesent |
02:13 |
LandMineMT |
OldCoder help me out on this.... |
02:13 |
marktraceur |
This has to be the least intelligent conversation about religion I've ever seen |
02:14 |
bulletrulz |
ok god make me quit irc right now |
02:14 |
marktraceur |
Oh, hey, and the least on topic |
02:14 |
khonkhortisan |
hi LandMineMT |
02:14 |
bulletrulz |
well im saying that he could exist but most likely does not! |
02:14 |
LandMineMT |
lol bulletrulz your funny |
02:14 |
LandMineMT |
everyone knows god doesnt have internet |
02:14 |
bulletrulz |
See |
02:14 |
bulletrulz |
Ok if gods real turn the tv off |
02:15 |
bulletrulz |
Still on |
02:15 |
bulletrulz |
God Most likely is a myth |
02:15 |
iqualfragile |
there is no god |
02:15 |
iqualfragile |
there ist just CN |
02:15 |
bulletrulz |
iqualfragile, i agree |
02:15 |
iqualfragile |
!joke |
02:15 |
moltenbot |
"iqualfragile destroyed the periodic table, because iqualfragile only recognizes the element of surprise." |
02:15 |
bulletrulz |
oh |
02:15 |
bulletrulz |
well ok |
02:15 |
khonkhortisan |
god may not exist but most likely does |
02:15 |
* marktraceur |
sighs |
02:16 |
bulletrulz |
khonkhortisan, no most likely not |
02:16 |
marktraceur |
Ops of #minetest, please just ban these people. |
02:16 |
khonkhortisan |
and I've heard a response to 'do x if you exist in the next five minutes' being 'you can't exhaust the patience of god in five minutes' |
02:16 |
khonkhortisan |
we have to be doing something bad to be banned |
02:17 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: Flame wars over religion definitely applies. |
02:17 |
khonkhortisan |
can't have the word BAnneD without BAD |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
LandMineMT, On what? |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
*scroll* |
02:17 |
LandMineMT |
the fact that god exist |
02:17 |
LandMineMT |
i say yes |
02:17 |
LandMineMT |
everyone says no |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
Oh... I'd need to think earlier in the day |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
Can you say what God is? |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
To you? |
02:17 |
* marktraceur |
cannot believe this |
02:18 |
khonkhortisan |
hehe |
02:18 |
marktraceur |
A) Off topic in the worst way |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, It is polite off-topic |
02:18 |
khonkhortisan |
doesn't look flaming to me |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Better than bots you must admit |
02:18 |
marktraceur |
B) Alienating to atheists, agnostics, and non-judeo-christian religions. |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
LandMineMT, Go ahead |
02:18 |
marktraceur |
So no, not better than bots, totally worse. |
02:18 |
khonkhortisan |
like "Your god's stupid!" "No, YOUR god's stupid" would be flaming |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, Just asking what the meaning is |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
khonkhortisan is right; this seems more philosophical |
02:19 |
LandMineMT |
marktraceur if you have nothing to add to the current topic keep quite |
02:19 |
khonkhortisan |
atheism is a religion and deserves no more and no less religious protection than other religions |
02:19 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: Even if we were to assume that saying "God exists" doesn't alienate some religions, you're alienating atheists and agnostics. |
02:19 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, by asking what is meant? |
02:19 |
* marktraceur |
wonders why he even bothers |
02:19 |
* OldCoder |
considers |
02:19 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, you bother because you are sharp |
02:19 |
OldCoder |
and to the point |
02:19 |
OldCoder |
This is good |
02:20 |
marktraceur |
I mean, I'm happy to see discussions about religion, but as I keep having to point out, this is #minetest. |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, you are correct |
02:20 |
LandMineMT |
marktraceur denying god will only not bless you in the future |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
Off topic is permitted |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
a bit |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
LandMineMT, but there you make his point for him... |
02:20 |
khonkhortisan |
I can see how saying "God exists" could alienate an atheist, but an agnostic? Don't agnostics believe they don't know whether god exists? |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
what is God to you? |
02:21 |
marktraceur |
LandMineMT: You're absolutely correct, so I'd better go hide. |
02:21 |
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02:21 |
LandMineMT |
good |
02:21 |
LandMineMT |
now we can talk |
02:21 |
LandMineMT |
bulletrulz do you have prove jahova doesnt exist? |
02:21 |
khonkhortisan |
lolhiding |
02:22 |
hohoho |
LandMineMT why pushing religious talk? I go for a stroll and come back to religious debate |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
Restarting worlds with minor fixes |
02:22 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:22 |
khonkhortisan |
יְהֹוָה |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
The Word |
02:22 |
hohoho |
I personally believe in a divine essence however each has their own right to believe what they want without harassment from others lol |
02:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I think it was gloop I had a similar discussion with here some time ago |
02:23 |
hohoho |
discussion is fine. confrontation about ones beliefs imo isn't fine |
02:23 |
LandMineMT |
hohoho your a devil worshiper |
02:23 |
khonkhortisan |
like that kind of confrontation |
02:23 |
hohoho |
lol LandMineMT name calling doesn't help your case |
02:24 |
khonkhortisan |
the person hid that I was going to ask how saying god exists alienates agnostics :( |
02:24 |
LandMineMT |
im not name calling |
02:24 |
hohoho |
for one the "devil" is a creation of the Catholic Church |
02:24 |
hohoho |
look it up |
02:24 |
khonkhortisan |
You're a [insert name here] = calling someone [same name] |
02:24 |
khonkhortisan |
hohoho, I haven't heard that before |
02:24 |
hohoho |
and two there is no speak of hell in the bible. the closest reference when reading original languages is a trash pit |
02:25 |
hohoho |
so your statement that I am a devil worshiper is invalid |
02:25 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:25 |
khonkhortisan |
Would you also say there's no heaven, but only paradise? |
02:25 |
hohoho |
I personally believe in reincarnation based on experiences and my own research |
02:25 |
hohoho |
how long it goes on im not sure |
02:25 |
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02:26 |
LandMineMT |
reincarnation doesnt exist |
02:26 |
khonkhortisan |
yuck, that's the only problem with reincarnation is how long it goes on - and how you lose your memory |
02:26 |
* hohoho |
hasn't lost all his memory |
02:26 |
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02:27 |
iqualfragile |
god does not exist |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
Round trees are square again; this should speed things up |
02:27 |
khonkhortisan |
hohoho, I'm not finding the catholic church devil creation |
02:28 |
bulletrulz |
Lol i dont believe in the devel either |
02:29 |
hohoho |
khonkhortisan its out there but im not interested in trying to find it again. did this research one for my own benefit. don't care to repeat it lol |
02:29 |
hohoho |
basically the findings were basically the devil and hell were created by the catholic church |
02:29 |
khonkhortisan |
One thing is for sure, either you have a soul or the clinical definition for death is too soon. |
02:30 |
LandMineMT |
hohoho does evil exist? |
02:30 |
khonkhortisan |
Then the protestants picked up the idea from them? |
02:30 |
khonkhortisan |
My religion class wasn't that good |
02:31 |
hohoho |
as for a soul.. I've seen some "evidence" supporting a possibility of past lives. I've also been lucky enough to meet someone from a past life in this life and they remember as well. they came to me with their memory and it lined up with the events from mine. he had no idea at the time of my memory |
02:32 |
LandMineMT |
Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man |
02:32 |
khonkhortisan |
I've seen evidence both ways, and can't explain either away |
02:32 |
khonkhortisan |
LandMineMT, that doesn't make sense |
02:32 |
LandMineMT |
of course it does |
02:32 |
LandMineMT |
thats what einstien said |
02:33 |
LandMineMT |
and hohoho i htought that you loose your memory when you reincarnate |
02:33 |
LandMineMT |
you just contradicted yourself |
02:33 |
khonkhortisan |
some people keep partial memory, so I've heard |
02:33 |
hohoho |
I never said you lost your memory on reincarnation |
02:33 |
hohoho |
I don't have full memory of past lives but I do remember bits and pieces. usually days before and of death |
02:34 |
hohoho |
I presume such a traumatic experience gets remembered easier |
02:34 |
bulletrulz |
hohoho, really i do too |
02:34 |
hohoho |
lol I've been shot stabbed fallen to my death hanged etc etc |
02:34 |
hohoho |
and remember those deaths including the feelings and sensations ~_~ |
02:35 |
LandMineMT |
so you just remember your deaths? |
02:35 |
LandMineMT |
then how do you say you remember this person? |
02:35 |
khonkhortisan |
interesting |
02:35 |
hohoho |
well so far 99% of the memories I've had is of last 2-3 days of life. but that 1% has been others |
02:35 |
bulletrulz |
wierd i remember a couple deaths |
02:35 |
khonkhortisan |
LandMineMT, so evil is just the absence of good? |
02:36 |
LandMineMT |
yes in the hearts of men |
02:36 |
hohoho |
there is no evil or good imo. there is just perception of events AS evil or good |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:36 |
hohoho |
to an "evil" man, an "evil" event is "good" |
02:36 |
bulletrulz |
i was killed |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
Hell is the Absence of God |
02:36 |
hohoho |
however there is action/reaction. I do believe in you reap what you sow. I also believe in what you do will come back to you. |
02:37 |
khonkhortisan |
to an "evil" man, they do evil, other people do good. to an "insane" man, evil and good are reversed |
02:37 |
hohoho |
do "good" get "good" etc |
02:37 |
hohoho |
I also believe in treating others as I wish to be treated |
02:38 |
hohoho |
however when it comes to organized religions, I have to say based on evidence they are a bunch of bullocks |
02:38 |
hohoho |
of course people are free to believe what they wish |
02:38 |
hohoho |
I won't stop them |
02:38 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:38 |
hohoho |
and yes I was raised a christian |
02:38 |
khonkhortisan |
based on the idea that only one religion can be true, most organized religions are a bunch of bullocks |
02:39 |
hohoho |
when it comes to a religion that someone is following I like to ask them to look into their religions history |
02:39 |
hohoho |
what people did in the name of their religion |
02:39 |
hohoho |
then decide if you want to really follow such |
02:39 |
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02:39 |
LandMineMT_ |
god i hate my modem |
02:39 |
LandMineMT_ |
it d/c |
02:40 |
khonkhortisan |
I would use that argument against martyrdom |
02:40 |
* hohoho |
comments not on LandMineMTs first message when they came back |
02:40 |
LandMineMT_ |
anyhow i win the argument....god exist final worl |
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02:40 |
khonkhortisan |
you missed much of the argument |
02:40 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:40 |
LandMineMT_ |
if you dont agree with me i will have my pal OldCoder ban you |
02:40 |
khonkhortisan |
pal? |
02:40 |
LandMineMT_ |
that statment there proves god exist |
02:41 |
khonkhortisan |
haha wait I have a response, gotta read the wiki |
02:41 |
LandMineMT_ |
pal...buddy |
02:41 |
hohoho |
anyone narrow enough minded to ban someone because they don't believe what they believe shouldn't have authority |
02:41 |
khonkhortisan |
"argumentum ad baculum" |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
Is this an argument? It remains philosophical |
02:42 |
khonkhortisan |
LandMineMT_ is right because if he wasn't right I'd be banned. Argumentum ad baculum. |
02:42 |
hohoho |
I personally am not fond of most satanists due to most actions performed by satanists. however I will not "ban" them from a place I have authority over just on that issue |
02:42 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:43 |
khonkhortisan |
what I get from that last sentence is that you don't judge people by their character, but by their current actions |
02:43 |
LandMineMT_ |
no |
02:43 |
LandMineMT_ |
he is saying he is a satanist |
02:43 |
hohoho |
well I try not to judge at all. however I do have bias over ones actions past and present. |
02:43 |
MiJyn |
? |
02:43 |
khonkhortisan |
that's not at all what he's saying |
02:44 |
hohoho |
if one has done much evil, I consider them evil. however if they change I will not hold their past against them |
02:44 |
LandMineMT_ |
so if you had a sister....rapes her...but tells you he changed....you will let him in your home? |
02:44 |
hohoho |
saying one has changed doesn't change one |
02:44 |
hohoho |
actions speak louder than words |
02:45 |
khonkhortisan |
using examples to test a general statement seems to not go well |
02:45 |
LandMineMT_ |
i willl you know this person who raped your sister changed? |
02:45 |
LandMineMT_ |
with acions? |
02:45 |
hohoho |
and yes if someone murdered my mother and truly was repentant of it and changed their ways away from the "evil". I would forgive. |
02:45 |
hohoho |
christians are supposed to forgive as well |
02:45 |
hohoho |
would you forgive such a person? |
02:45 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:46 |
LandMineMT_ |
who said i was christian?.....and no |
02:46 |
hohoho |
judge not lest ye be judged |
02:46 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:46 |
khonkhortisan |
I remember there being a religion where if you really felt you had to do something, you could do it. It doesn't seem to stand up very well to specific scenarios. |
02:46 |
hohoho |
sounds like that crap my brother was into |
02:46 |
khonkhortisan |
do you know what it's called? |
02:46 |
hohoho |
name escapes me |
02:46 |
khonkhortisan |
me too |
02:47 |
hohoho |
lol haven't thought of its name in over a year |
02:47 |
hohoho |
thelema? |
02:47 |
LandMineMT_ |
OldCoder ban hohoho he doesnt agree in my god views |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
|
02:48 |
OldCoder |
*scroll* |
02:48 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:48 |
khonkhortisan |
that would be religious discrimination |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
I like this discussion |
02:48 |
hohoho |
ban me if you wish but if you do on those grounds it will look incredibly bad on your part |
02:48 |
khonkhortisan |
exactly |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
I have no intention of banning people for polite discussion |
02:49 |
hohoho |
mm jalapeno |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
A religion? |
02:49 |
hohoho |
mm jalapeno poppers* |
02:49 |
khonkhortisan |
needs an ñ |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
Sounds different |
02:49 |
khonkhortisan |
Jalapeño |
02:50 |
* khonkhortisan |
likes using fancy characters |
02:50 |
hohoho |
it may make me sound "like a evil man" for saying this to many but in my perfect world there would be no organized religions. from looking at history the majority if not all has caused directly much "evil" in this world |
02:51 |
khonkhortisan |
life would be better if the one true religion was the only religion. But if any religion gets that idea, life gets worse. |
02:51 |
hohoho |
there is no one true religion imo |
02:52 |
hohoho |
there are many paths to walk down |
02:52 |
OldCoder |
Many lamps? |
02:52 |
hohoho |
all eventually lead to same destination |
02:52 |
khonkhortisan |
but that is in itself a religion (or a basis of one) |
02:52 |
khonkhortisan |
the many paths vs. one path |
02:52 |
hohoho |
that is a belief that I hold |
02:52 |
hohoho |
not a religion exactly |
02:52 |
khonkhortisan |
oh yeah that reminds me of an argument |
02:54 |
khonkhortisan |
let's say there's two religions in the world. A believes there are two paths, B believes it's the only path. If A is true, you're okay believing either A or B. If B is true, you're only okay believing B. By the chances (if there's only two religions in the world) you're better off believing B. But with so many world religions, that argument doesn't hold. |
02:54 |
LandMineMT_ |
i will personaly send a text mesage to god....he will send you all to darkest place and reincarnate you into rats for your sins |
02:55 |
khonkhortisan |
okay, but you'll have to explain how your text message holds any more weight than anyone else's |
02:55 |
hohoho |
but landminemt doesn't that go against "teachings of god"? unless you believe in some non christian or non islamic god |
02:55 |
hohoho |
non jewish god as well |
02:55 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:56 |
hohoho |
as for previous statement, what is both religions are wrong? |
02:56 |
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02:56 |
LandMineMT_ |
when did god say you cant shoot him a sMS? |
02:56 |
hohoho |
what if say for sake of argument there is no paths. it is all a dream? |
02:56 |
khonkhortisan |
that doesn't even matter, because there's more than two religions anyway |
02:57 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:57 |
khonkhortisan |
I have to assume at least one world religion is right |
02:57 |
khonkhortisan |
iirc in islam isn't it that your good and bad deeds are balanced against each other and the only way to be sure the good will weigh more than the bad is martrdom? |
02:57 |
LandMineMT_ |
if it was all a dream....we would all be gods dream |
02:57 |
khonkhortisan |
or that one dream-in-a-dream movie |
02:57 |
hohoho |
I presume no "organized" religions are right based on my over a decade of research |
02:58 |
hohoho |
basically my opinion is everyone has it wrong. maybe I do as well |
02:58 |
hohoho |
lol |
02:58 |
khonkhortisan |
what do you mean by organized? You don't have to go to church and you can still be right? |
02:58 |
hohoho |
I also say IF there was one true "god" that "got some ancient humans to write a book about them"... they sure did a crappy job at it |
02:58 |
MiJyn |
I'm very sorry for interupting this interesting conversation, but how do you move fast in MT? |
02:59 |
hohoho |
J |
02:59 |
hohoho |
assuming you have fast priv |
02:59 |
khonkhortisan |
maybe the modern humans did a crappy job translating :) |
02:59 |
MiJyn |
thanks hohoho |
02:59 |
khonkhortisan |
I changed it to h |
02:59 |
hohoho |
if not flying you would hold I think its left shift while moving while J is enabled |
02:59 |
khonkhortisan |
either shift or the "use" key |
03:00 |
hohoho |
I have my use key set to E since that's how it "was" |
03:00 |
hohoho |
its how I got used to it |
03:00 |
hohoho |
lol |
03:00 |
hohoho |
if a one true god wanted their "children" to follow rules. the book would be short and to the point. god is supposed to be perfect afterall |
03:01 |
hohoho |
a simple list of laws/rules/commands with no fluff |
03:01 |
khonkhortisan |
and the children are supposed to be imperfect, unable to just follow rules |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
Free will |
03:01 |
hohoho |
of course the bible as we know it today is basically the jewish bible mixed with other books put together by a pagan if im remembering correctly |
03:01 |
khonkhortisan |
faith as a helper |
03:01 |
hohoho |
and all books written by men |
03:02 |
khonkhortisan |
and the islam bible says blasphemy about jesus according to christians |
03:02 |
hohoho |
torah if I remember correct (referring to jewish bible) |
03:02 |
khonkhortisan |
yep |
03:02 |
hohoho |
for anyone who follows islam.. read the Koran closely and fully |
03:03 |
hohoho |
for christians read the bible fully and closely as well |
03:03 |
hohoho |
there is much many don't know about either |
03:03 |
hohoho |
lol |
03:03 |
hohoho |
excuse me |
03:03 |
hohoho |
quran |
03:03 |
* hohoho |
mental fumble |
03:04 |
khonkhortisan |
Qu'ran, no? |
03:04 |
hohoho |
close enough |
03:04 |
LandMineMT_ |
hohoho you are retarded |
03:04 |
hohoho |
im not a follower of islam |
03:04 |
LandMineMT_ |
ou dont even know how to type it |
03:04 |
OldCoder |
Focus on points and not people |
03:04 |
LandMineMT_ |
everyhting you just said has become invalid |
03:04 |
khonkhortisan |
neither am I, but I played a game called ur-quan masters that had aliens with different religions - never got near the end of the game |
03:04 |
hohoho |
lol landminemt you have said much to make many of your arguments "invalid" |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
Strive for common ground |
03:05 |
LandMineMT_ |
just by talking to you my IQ dropped 30 points....hohoho |
03:05 |
OldCoder |
What are you moving towards or away from? |
03:05 |
hohoho |
however I don't like to nitpick what one says. it's the idea behind the words I look at |
03:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I believe doorknobs should be worshipped! I'm an idiot for thinking so! Because I'm an idiot, you should ignore me no matter how well-thought out my arguments are! :P |
03:05 |
hohoho |
for your information landminemt my iq has routinely tested over 135 |
03:05 |
hohoho |
but to me its but a number |
03:05 |
khonkhortisan |
oh yeah iq tests |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
Is this relative to either of you; in this context? |
03:06 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't know mine |
03:06 |
khonkhortisan |
iq is off-topic religion is off-topic minetest |
03:06 |
hohoho |
everything is off topic |
03:06 |
hohoho |
lol |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
Is there a God in Minetest? |
03:06 |
hohoho |
of course im all for going back on topic if someone wishes to discuss minetest |
03:06 |
khonkhortisan |
no, god is really hard to program in |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
I C |
03:07 |
hohoho |
lol there are some mods that make you into a sort of god |
03:07 |
hohoho |
insta-breaking of blocks |
03:07 |
hohoho |
then you have fly |
03:07 |
hohoho |
and fast |
03:07 |
hohoho |
and teleport |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> well, god is also an old coder |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<OldCoder> Indeed |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> he wrote all that **** ages ago |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<OldCoder> It is a patchwork |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<OldCoder> Someday He will debug |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<OldCoder> On that day |
03:07 |
khonkhortisan |
not the same, the programmer is more god than the player |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<OldCoder> We'll all need a hug |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> lol |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<VanessaE> heh |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> so no armaggeddon |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> just day of release stable |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
03:07 |
OldCoder |
Just a fun bit |
03:07 |
hohoho |
lol stable release |
03:08 |
khonkhortisan |
nethack has god(s) programmed in |
03:10 |
khonkhortisan |
when you die in a computer game, you come back at the same age, with full memory. That's neither reincarnation nor going to a better (or worse) place. |
03:10 |
hohoho |
its similar to reincarnation |
03:10 |
hohoho |
just instead of forgetting you remember |
03:10 |
hohoho |
lol |
03:10 |
khonkhortisan |
without being a baby and everything |
03:10 |
sdzen |
hmmm I have a feeling I am jumping into a strange conversation I am seeing discussion of gods of some sort? Raphael who started it i cant scroll up high enough |
03:11 |
khonkhortisan |
yep religious stuff |
03:11 |
LandMineMT_ |
sdzen i did "_ |
03:11 |
hohoho |
landminemt |
03:11 |
hohoho |
from their arguments id claim troll |
03:11 |
hohoho |
but its been fun |
03:11 |
hohoho |
lol |
03:12 |
khonkhortisan |
"omg!!! a was stung by a bee!!! i know this is gods punishment for not going to church on sunday" |
03:12 |
OldCoder |
Better than most discussions of this time |
03:12 |
khonkhortisan |
landmine has already been claimed as a troll |
03:12 |
LandMineMT_ |
btw the bee part wasnt a lie....it did sting me |
03:12 |
LandMineMT_ |
it was sitting on my cup filled wtih cola |
03:13 |
khonkhortisan |
and someone tried to put dirt on my foot when I got stung by a wasp what's up with that? |
03:13 |
LandMineMT_ |
so i turned to grab it |
03:13 |
LandMineMT_ |
without looking at it |
03:13 |
LandMineMT_ |
felt a little thing on the edge |
03:13 |
LandMineMT_ |
grabbed it |
03:13 |
LandMineMT_ |
and got stung |
03:13 |
VanessaE |
I don't believe G*d actively punishes people in this life, and assuming there is an afterlife, I expect what happens there is more of a cleansing process than punishment for your actions in this life. |
03:14 |
khonkhortisan |
blesses and curses are much easier to understand |
03:14 |
hohoho |
I believe punishment is due to your own doing |
03:14 |
VanessaE |
like all those nitwits that claim (as in the bee sting) that shit like a hurricane is some kind of punishment |
03:14 |
khonkhortisan |
or luck / kudos |
03:15 |
sdzen |
I believe that God must have been an alien and the reason it is much less active in our lives today i because it is off making a better race |
03:15 |
khonkhortisan |
hurricanes could easily be either natural or punishment |
03:15 |
hohoho |
bee sting as an example. bees generally don't stink without cause |
03:15 |
hohoho |
you have to provoke them |
03:15 |
LandMineMT_ |
i grabbed |
03:15 |
khonkhortisan |
lolsdzen |
03:15 |
LandMineMT_ |
it |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
umm thats a sink bug |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
stink* |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
lol |
03:15 |
VanessaE |
well if you burn them, they'll stink probably |
03:15 |
MiJyn |
yeah, usually _don't_ stink |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
lol |
03:15 |
MiJyn |
*they |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
you are thinking of stink beetle |
03:15 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't believe in aliens. I'm a selfish race. |
03:16 |
Doc22 |
well I live in roswell nm lol |
03:16 |
sdzen |
care to describe the stink beetle? it may have been endangered |
03:16 |
hohoho |
afk time for some minetest |
03:16 |
Doc22 |
lol |
03:16 |
LandMineMT_ |
there are many galaxys in the universe |
03:16 |
LandMineMT_ |
each has its own suns and planets |
03:16 |
khonkhortisan |
it has lines going between the front and back I think |
03:16 |
Doc22 |
to say that we are the only beings is arrogent |
03:16 |
LandMineMT_ |
pretty sure one of those has to have the perfect condicions for live to exist |
03:16 |
Doc22 |
yes |
03:16 |
sdzen |
and we are the one |
03:17 |
sdzen |
XD |
03:17 |
Doc22 |
just not in our solar system |
03:17 |
khonkhortisan |
then why haven't we heard their tv/radio/cell/nuclear signals? |
03:17 |
Doc22 |
we only know of one solar system |
03:17 |
LandMineMT_ |
Doc22 exactly |
03:17 |
khonkhortisan |
um, there's only one solar system because there's only one Sol. |
03:17 |
khonkhortisan |
that's the only reason |
03:17 |
LandMineMT_ |
khon do you go to school? |
03:17 |
khonkhortisan |
yep |
03:17 |
Doc22 |
the reason there isnt (known) life in any of the other planets is because the right spot from the sun |
03:17 |
Doc22 |
is taken |
03:18 |
sdzen |
with the vast expanse of the universe even if we ever heard of these organisms they would be long dead by the time we heard it |
03:18 |
khonkhortisan |
no, there's probably enough sun-like systems out there |
03:18 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: that and we don't have the technology to detect life yet - just the aftereffects of it--maybe. |
03:18 |
khonkhortisan |
I think sdzen's reason is better than Doc22's |
03:18 |
sdzen |
and most of those very very few life bearing planets will only support very basic life |
03:18 |
hohoho |
statistically there are millions of "alien races" with a few capable of traversing the universe |
03:18 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
03:18 |
hohoho |
thing is which would even want to visit here? |
03:18 |
hohoho |
lol |
03:19 |
Doc22 |
there is not proof of life on planets |
03:19 |
sdzen |
most likely unicellular organisms |
03:19 |
Doc22 |
but there isnt proof agains tit |
03:19 |
Doc22 |
either |
03:19 |
hohoho |
anyway time for minetest, have stuff to build |
03:19 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. |
03:19 |
hohoho |
ta ta |
03:19 |
hohoho |
been nice chatting |
03:19 |
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03:19 |
Doc22 |
exactly my point |
03:20 |
khonkhortisan |
how likely is it that we created life on the moon? |
03:20 |
khonkhortisan |
do you really trust the cleaning products nasa uses? |
03:20 |
sdzen |
there is traces of organic matter and water has been found on mercury |
03:20 |
VanessaE |
I believe as sdzen does, that there are far too many stars in the universe (or even the galaxy) to believe with any rationality that we are the only intelligent species in existence, let alone the only life, period (intelligent or not) |
03:20 |
Doc22 |
I agree strongly |
03:21 |
Doc22 |
the only reason that people "know" that there arent aliens is ignorance |
03:21 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: unless the life you refer to can survive in 250°C temperatures with no air and no water.... I doubt that's a problem for the moon. |
03:21 |
LandMineMT_ |
finally something smart comes out of HER mouth |
03:21 |
khonkhortisan |
the real argument is the religious one, whether God made one life-filled planet, or all life evolved |
03:21 |
sdzen |
yes! the conversation has turned from religion to the universe! |
03:21 |
VanessaE |
now mars? that's a different matter. |
03:21 |
LandMineMT_ |
yup and i started them BOTH hahha |
03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
so you did. |
03:22 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: they believe G*d created this and *only* this planet, therefore there can be no other planets with life. QED. |
03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
I think God created evolution. |
03:22 |
Doc22 |
yes |
03:22 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: +1 |
03:22 |
sdzen |
+1 |
03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
What religion is it that has to say G*d instead of God or god? |
03:22 |
LandMineMT_ |
hence god existe |
03:23 |
Doc22 |
I don't know about evolution |
03:23 |
LandMineMT_ |
i rest my case |
03:23 |
Doc22 |
my arguement for evolution is this: |
03:23 |
Doc22 |
where are the fossils for the t-rex/next evolution hybrid |
03:23 |
OldCoder |
khonkhortisan, I believe more than one does not mention the Name |
03:23 |
Doc22 |
surely a (next evolution) doesnt just pop out of a t rex because of chance |
03:23 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: they died out before that could happen. the extinction event 65Mya. |
03:24 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
03:24 |
Doc22 |
what I mean |
03:24 |
VanessaE |
that big asteroid did a lot more than just leave a hole in the Yucatan peninsula. |
03:24 |
Doc22 |
is where are the fossils between two evolutions |
03:24 |
Doc22 |
humans |
03:24 |
VanessaE |
you mean from dinos to mammals? |
03:24 |
sdzen |
in my church the main arguement against evolution is that god punishes gay marriage with hurricanes and that evolution is a theory in itself. |
03:24 |
Doc22 |
they have them |
03:24 |
VanessaE |
there wasn't one |
03:24 |
Doc22 |
but not for the dinosaurs |
03:24 |
VanessaE |
totally different branch of life. |
03:24 |
sdzen |
which one is plausible? |
03:24 |
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03:24 |
Doc22 |
I don't believe in evolution |
03:25 |
Doc22 |
but I dont believe against is |
03:25 |
Doc22 |
it |
03:25 |
Doc22 |
I don't know which to believe in |
03:25 |
khonkhortisan |
evolution is a theory, but creationism doesn't automatically mean evolution can't be true |
03:25 |
sdzen |
I dont believe anything because there is no theory out there without flaws |
03:25 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: scientists have experimented with evolution in labs in the form of bacteria and of mice - they've seen tiny changes happen. |
03:25 |
VanessaE |
evolution exists. |
03:25 |
khonkhortisan |
theory of gravity |
03:25 |
Dogzilla131 |
god made everything |
03:25 |
khonkhortisan |
god didn't make the cheeseburger you bought from mcdonalds |
03:26 |
sdzen |
even the theory of gravity may be disputed in the future |
03:26 |
khonkhortisan |
? |
03:26 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: if he made all that we see, and makes all people, explain gays in sdzen's context. :-) |
03:26 |
Dogzilla131 |
the cows, wheat seeds, he did |
03:26 |
LandMineMT_ |
he diudnt make the cheese burger but he made the cow which is a living bein |
03:26 |
LandMineMT_ |
and made wheet |
03:26 |
Doc22 |
Perhaps it does |
03:27 |
sdzen |
cow? wheat? minecraft! |
03:27 |
Doc22 |
I am neutral on this one |
03:27 |
khonkhortisan |
which had many sons and daughters until the one that got turned into beef |
03:27 |
Doc22 |
not for or agains it |
03:27 |
sdzen |
we are all living in minecraft! that explains it all! |
03:27 |
khonkhortisan |
and the age-old chicken or the egg |
03:27 |
LandMineMT_ |
sdzen be mature please |
03:27 |
sdzen |
haha just trying to break the tension |
03:27 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest doesn't have 45° angles :( |
03:27 |
Dogzilla131 |
the human life are sinners |
03:28 |
sdzen |
I am trying to digest what you just said dogzilla |
03:28 |
sdzen |
could you rephrase im having a tad bit of trouble understanding |
03:29 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: msg... |
03:29 |
Dogzilla131 |
the human race are not pure good |
03:29 |
khonkhortisan |
people are sinners and need to be saved OR people may either be good or bad and when they die their actions are weighed OR good and bad are relative and defined by culture and have no result when you die OR people are all good and just need to realize it... Have I skipped anything? |
03:30 |
LandMineMT_ |
of course evolution exist...who is the idiot that says it doesnt? |
03:30 |
Dogzilla131 |
because of Eve and Adam |
03:30 |
sdzen |
you know i have had this conversation a million times with some very inhumane humans |
03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
the creationist says evolution doesn't exist |
03:30 |
LandMineMT_ |
black people is an example of evolution |
03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
don't you mean white people? |
03:30 |
sdzen |
I tend to notice that unless you shut the door in someones face the conversation wont end easily |
03:30 |
LandMineMT_ |
no i mean white |
03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
which came first? |
03:31 |
LandMineMT_ |
i mean black |
03:31 |
* OldCoder |
sighs |
03:31 |
LandMineMT_ |
they had to adapt to the sun |
03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
it ends when people are all talked out |
03:31 |
LandMineMT_ |
the low humidity in the air |
03:31 |
sdzen |
wow this is going on a tangent |
03:31 |
OldCoder |
A big one |
03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
all conversations do |
03:31 |
LandMineMT_ |
hence evolution exist |
03:31 |
sdzen |
there is only a very slight variation between blacks and whites |
03:32 |
sdzen |
its almost negligible |
03:32 |
khonkhortisan |
nose shape, cell color, chin, eye color, hair... not much difference |
03:32 |
LandMineMT_ |
cell color? |
03:33 |
LandMineMT_ |
hahahahaha |
03:33 |
sdzen |
isnt it about 99% identical genes? |
03:33 |
LandMineMT_ |
the skin changed to resist more the sun |
03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
not just skin color, other stuff changes color too, right? |
03:33 |
LandMineMT_ |
the nose is wider to breath more due to low humidity |
03:33 |
LandMineMT_ |
and many more stuff |
03:33 |
sdzen |
adaption and evolution |
03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
¿ humidity affects oxygen? |
03:34 |
sdzen |
if you were to live at a higher altitude for a long amount of time you would adapt |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: I don't believe people are bad because of something two people from a story did or didn't do. |
03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
evolution/adaption only works if the weaker people die |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
people are bad because they are taught to be. |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
no other reason. |
03:34 |
sdzen |
if your child was born at that altitude i would assume genetic teachings would come into effect |
03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd go even further, people can be bad without being taught to be |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
(outside of pure mental illness of course) |
03:34 |
sdzen |
everything is taught |
03:34 |
Dogzilla131 |
the sin goes in the blood |
03:35 |
sdzen |
which is why there is no room for true creativity |
03:35 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: bullshit. I reject that idea. |
03:35 |
khonkhortisan |
evolution isn't that fast sdzen |
03:35 |
sdzen |
no it isnt |
03:35 |
sdzen |
im speaking of adaptation |
03:35 |
sdzen |
not evolution |
03:35 |
sdzen |
see how simalar yet different they are? |
03:35 |
khonkhortisan |
then I'm not clear on the meaning of adaptation |
03:35 |
VanessaE |
there's no such thing as sin. that is yet another creation of mankind made to justify trying to control others' actions, all in the name of G*d. |
03:36 |
Dogzilla131 |
ok VanessaE, but thats what i believe |
03:36 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: explore the fabric of reality a while and you won't believe that anymore. |
03:36 |
khonkhortisan |
there's no such thing as religion, it's only man's creation to get people that don't believe in sin to believe in god :P |
03:36 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: interesting take on it :-) |
03:36 |
sdzen |
You cant believe anything anymore.... |
03:36 |
LandMineMT_ |
VanessaE stop tryin got impose your reality on people thats not cool |
03:37 |
Dogzilla131 |
i know the both sides, but i still believe in beliefs |
03:37 |
sdzen |
she is not imposing anything |
03:37 |
khonkhortisan |
LandMineMT_, aren't we all doing that? |
03:37 |
LandMineMT_ |
nope |
03:37 |
sdzen |
nobody is |
03:37 |
LandMineMT_ |
we are jut giving ou r points of view |
03:37 |
LandMineMT_ |
VanessaE on the other hand wants you to beleive what she does |
03:38 |
LandMineMT_ |
by calling you stupid |
03:38 |
sdzen |
I could just start preaching to you all right now... about a god named paul. |
03:39 |
sdzen |
whether you actually pay attention or not would be your decision though |
03:39 |
Dogzilla131 |
I dont care what anybody says about the subject, i will always believe in beliefs. |
03:39 |
LandMineMT_ |
paul? thats a queer name |
03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
Dogzilla131, are you talking about atheism? |
03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
mark is still gone It hink |
03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
*I think |
03:40 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
03:40 |
khonkhortisan |
we're all smart enough to stay away from cults, right? |
03:40 |
Dogzilla131 |
no, in my beliefs, people have the right to believe in anything they want to believe |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: G*d told us to think, also. to evaluate the world around us. question it. learn everything you can, even if it up-ends something you already believe. |
03:41 |
sdzen |
hmmm what do you say to the kkk? khonk? |
03:41 |
khonkhortisan |
I dunno, should I say something to them? By today's standard they seem bad - and aren't they an american creation? |
03:42 |
sdzen |
I dont remember |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
the kkk is a hateful organization originally bent on the idea of wiping out everyone except straight white christian men and women |
03:43 |
sdzen |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwyE2gT5VQ&hd=1 |
03:43 |
khonkhortisan |
if your religion says that people can believe whatever they want, what defines your religion? That whatever someone believes would come true? The gods would get claustrophobic. Or that no one knows? Then how can you believe? |
03:43 |
moltenbot |
sdzens link: Carsickness - "Bill Wilkinson" - YouTube |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
today, I don't know if they buy into that ideal as much as they used to |
03:44 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: let me put that supposition this way: Abe and I believe all paths to G*d are valid as long as they don't result in hurting someone else or violating the basic belief in G*d of course. |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
actually, even a belief in G*d isn't mandatoru. |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
mandatory* |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
as it is written, (paraphrasing), G*d would rather have us stop believing in Him than to start hurting each other for BS reasons. |
03:46 |
sdzen |
then how do you explain most of history? |
03:46 |
sdzen |
i believe that the collective gods may frown on you for thinking they dont take joy in watching us fight to the death pointlessly |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: people hurting each other for BS reasons and then using G*d or some derivative thereof to justify it. |
03:47 |
sdzen |
and this is new? |
03:47 |
sdzen |
it isnt |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
nope, it ain't new. |
03:47 |
khonkhortisan |
So two people have two different religions, that have two different thresholds that decide between whether they go to heaven or hell. They both live their lives the same way. The one person's religion says they go to hell, the other person's says they go to heaven. Do they go to the same place if they lived the same way? |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
"As long as there has been one true G*d, there has been killing in his name." |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
which of course does not justify it. |
03:47 |
khonkhortisan |
Where's that quote from? |
03:47 |
sdzen |
even before the one true god |
03:48 |
sdzen |
theres has been killing in the names of the various deities |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: DaVinci Code. |
03:48 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. Haven't seen it |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
(the movie, spoken by the character Lee Teabing) |
03:48 |
sdzen |
isnt it a book? |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: both a movie and a book. |
03:48 |
sdzen |
ahh yes |
03:50 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm sure religions have conflicts between them that can't be resolved. One may be works-based, the other faith-based. If you follow one, you fail at the other. |
03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
All talked out? |
03:53 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: pretty much, which is why we say that as long as your path with G*d doesn't lead to another person's harm, you've done right by G*d and can expect to avoid whatever kind of punishment or spiritual cleansing that is coming. |
03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
guess not |
03:54 |
* VanessaE |
<-- getting slow lately. |
03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
Does that include being an athiest and a "good person"? |
03:55 |
Doc22 |
umm |
03:55 |
Doc22 |
try going to #religion |
03:55 |
sdzen |
depends on your worldview dude |
03:55 |
Doc22 |
you guys could write a book |
03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd never get back on topic if I went there |
03:55 |
Doc22 |
lol |
03:56 |
sdzen |
we dont want to be like cornernote here so we should probably slow down |
03:56 |
Doc22 |
is cornernote gone from the community |
03:56 |
khonkhortisan |
so I've heard, yes. |
03:56 |
sdzen |
that and the room is spinning on my end |
03:56 |
Doc22 |
forever? |
03:56 |
LandMineMT_ |
cornernote posted images |
03:56 |
Doc22 |
of what |
03:56 |
LandMineMT_ |
dead cows |
03:56 |
LandMineMT_ |
deastality |
03:56 |
LandMineMT_ |
etc |
03:56 |
Doc22 |
O_D |
03:56 |
Doc22 |
seriously |
03:57 |
Doc22 |
the moderators would ban someone for posting a picture of dead cows |
03:57 |
Doc22 |
he was a huge contributer to the community |
03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
not on facebook! |
03:57 |
Doc22 |
yeah i know |
03:57 |
sdzen |
its moreso his very large speeches that never seemed to stop on the subject |
03:57 |
Doc22 |
on the forum |
03:57 |
Doc22 |
he made some awesome mods |
03:57 |
Doc22 |
and he just got thrown out of the community |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
No |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
He chose to go |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
He and I still chat a bit |
03:58 |
Doc22 |
ok |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
He is aware that he overreacted |
03:58 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
03:58 |
Doc22 |
I miss him |
03:58 |
sdzen |
think of the children |
03:58 |
Doc22 |
in the community |
03:59 |
Doc22 |
Oldcoder btw I finished my song |
03:59 |
khonkhortisan |
(notices the topic getting closer to being "on") |
04:00 |
sdzen |
so.... anyone working on some important things that have yet to be released? |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, k |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
sdzen, a song |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, Let's hear it |
04:00 |
Doc22 |
umm, ok |
04:00 |
Doc22 |
first I wish to state licence |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
CC? |
04:01 |
sdzen |
gpl? |
04:01 |
LandMineMT_ |
ITS TIME FOR A RAP BATTLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution Derived Works, No commercial |
04:01 |
LandMineMT_ |
DOC22 VS LANDMINE!!! |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
CC BY SA NC |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
its not rap |
04:01 |
LandMineMT_ |
LAME |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
It is a game tunme |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
It is a game tune |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
ok |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
All the Same |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
It is his tune let us hear it |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity.wav\ |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
oops |
04:01 |
Doc22 |
tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity.wav |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
grr |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
http://tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity.wav |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
there |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
lol |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
http://tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity_loop.wav |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
there is looping version |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
first one fades out |
04:02 |
Doc22 |
second one loops |
04:02 |
sdzen |
my ears! (I left my volume on high) |
04:03 |
sdzen |
very nice |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Downloading |
04:04 |
LandMineMT_ |
WELL PEEPS im gonna sleep....got school tomorow |
04:04 |
Doc22 |
thanks sdzen |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, you can convert this to Flac |
04:04 |
Doc22 |
Flac? |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
LandMineMT_, good night |
04:04 |
LandMineMT_ |
nice thing we had going on |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
lol |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, Lossless format |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Smaller |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
As good as WAV |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Can convert back |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
I really dont care about size lol |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
It is also safer from corruption |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
so basically a .zip format, but for .wav? |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
But all right |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
yeah maybe I should |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
but not right now |
04:05 |
Doc22 |
haha |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
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Doc22 |
OldCoder, what type of music would the kind I made be? |
04:25 |
Doc22 |
I don't know the word for it |
04:34 |
VanessaE |
you know what minetest needs? an Lua profiler... how much time is being spent in this or that or the other mod executing the code therein. |
04:35 |
Doc22 |
yeah that would be useful for performance improvement |
04:35 |
Doc22 |
simple thing like |
04:35 |
Doc22 |
start = system.get_time() |
04:36 |
Doc22 |
lua_script.run(); |
04:37 |
Doc22 |
System.print("lua script "+lua_script.name()+" took "+System.get_time-start) |
04:37 |
Doc22 |
general idea |
04:37 |
Doc22 |
get time |
04:37 |
Doc22 |
run script |
04:37 |
Doc22 |
print difference |
04:41 |
Doc22 |
you could also make something that writes the data to a file |
04:41 |
Doc22 |
or a profiler gui |
04:46 |
Doc22 |
find out which of those pesky mods are using up all your ram |
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OldCoder |
Doc22, Not techno |
05:14 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel would know |
05:15 |
OldCoder |
It's MOD style |
05:15 |
OldCoder |
Tracker |
05:15 |
OldCoder |
Sort of |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
i |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
05:15 |
VanessaE |
hi. |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
wtf i only sent that once |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
wtf i only sent that once |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
wtf i only sent that once |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
wtf i only sent that once |
05:15 |
bulletrulz |
wtf i only sent that once |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
that too |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
that too |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
that too |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
that too |
05:16 |
VanessaE |
you sent it 5 times |
05:16 |
VanessaE |
sign out and restart your client |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
Wtf theres something wrong with xchat |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
Wtf theres something wrong with xchat |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
Wtf theres something wrong with xchat |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
Wtf theres something wrong with xchat |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
Wtf theres something wrong with xchat |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
ok brb |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
ok brb |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
ok brb |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
ok brb |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
ok brb |
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05:16 |
bulletrulz |
ok |
05:16 |
bulletrulz |
fixed! :D |
05:17 |
VanessaE |
talk about a weird bug. |
05:18 |
sokomine |
i'm wondering: is there a way to see the whole scenery when looking down from high above? e.g. the eiffel tower on redcrabs server. i usually manage only a tiny bit of the landscape...which then looks strange |
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VanessaE |
hey neko |
05:40 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: hit 'r' |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
it'll show you whatever you've visited since sign-on |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't get rid of the clouds though |
05:41 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, ikr |
05:43 |
sokomine |
hm...whatever i've visited...may take a long time to visit everything. and i got the impression that something got forgotten... |
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06:07 |
VanessaE |
ok, time for bed |
06:08 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: everything you visited plus the surrounding map, so you'll see wide 2- or 3-mapblock stripes tracing your path basically |
06:08 |
VanessaE |
night all/. |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
07:13 |
markveidemanis |
VanessaE |
07:13 |
markveidemanis |
can you come on my server for some fireworks?:) |
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markveidemanis |
hello |
07:33 |
markveidemanis |
Greetings |
07:34 |
markveidemanis |
VanessaE |
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Aqua |
hi |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
Hi back |
08:31 |
Aqua |
can u give me a link to sfan5's windows 0.4.4 |
08:31 |
Aqua |
please |
08:32 |
Aqua |
u there? |
08:34 |
Aqua |
oldCoder |
08:42 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
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* OldCoder |
is resting |
11:24 |
OldCoder |
Hey Zeg9 |
11:27 |
Zeg9 |
Hello |
11:27 |
Zeg9 |
brb |
11:49 |
* Zeg9 |
has to go, bye |
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NekoGloop |
Meow. |
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cmacis |
Random noobish question. On the Debian (and related) builds, where are the folders you throw mods and stuff into? |
13:37 |
NekoGloop |
Hiding. |
13:38 |
cmacis |
You are, or they are? :) |
13:38 |
NekoGloop |
They are. |
13:38 |
cmacis |
Fair enough. I'll build another copy into home to play with mods then. |
13:39 |
cmacis |
It is version 0.X after all |
13:39 |
NekoGloop |
Translated into noob-speak: Go lookz for it!1!1!one! |
13:56 |
iqual |
camacis: in ~/.minetest |
13:56 |
iqual |
is anybody interested in an script to update installed mods? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
14:08 |
cmacis |
hello |
14:08 |
cmacis |
cheers iqual |
14:09 |
iqual |
hi PilzAdam |
14:09 |
iqual |
any recommendations for a server? |
14:10 |
iqual |
i want to have some spare space to build |
14:17 |
PilzAdam |
oh nice, we have a new minetest.net design |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
!tw Minetest-c55 |
14:21 |
Minetest-tan |
PilzAdam: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
!tw Minetest_c55 |
14:21 |
Minetest-tan |
Can't wait for #Minetest 0.4 stable to come out :D (@Minetest_c55) |
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neko259 |
VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55143#p55143 Don't you know what can cause it? It's like the ABM changes are counted from the server install, not previous run. |
14:38 |
neko259 |
And hello :D |
14:38 |
iqual |
bb |
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redcrab |
Yeah ! redcrab.suret.net is up to date , 0.4.4 dev :D |
15:30 |
NekoGloop |
redcrab: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbHZ6uWeR3U |
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PilzAdam |
Hi moltenbot |
15:47 |
iqualfragile |
… ich hab nicht dran gedacht dass jemand hi auch Hi schreiben könnte… |
15:48 |
NekoGloop |
ENGLISH MOTHERF*CKER. DO YOU SPEAK IT?! |
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iqualfragile |
yes i do, so i do understad that you just said something to me wich would not be concidered as "fine" |
15:49 |
NekoGloop |
Heh. |
15:49 |
iqualfragile |
OldCoder: would you please stop people from swearing in here? |
15:49 |
iqualfragile |
besides: the german sentence was @ PilzAdam who is from germany so it was intentional |
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bulletrulz |
hello :D |
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moltenbot |
welcome master |
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15:56 |
Jordach |
does anyone here got a imap server i can borrow? |
15:59 |
thexyz |
imap.gmail.com |
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moltenbot |
welcome master |
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Doc22_ |
Oldcoder |
16:26 |
Doc22_ |
my song could be added to the server |
16:26 |
Doc22_ |
technic has a mechanism for the music box |
16:26 |
Doc22_ |
to load the songs |
16:27 |
Doc22_ |
then there would be a song for the jukebox |
16:27 |
Doc22_ |
I tested it in singleplayer and it works |
16:28 |
Doc22_ |
hey sfan |
16:31 |
Doc22_ |
OldCoder? you there? |
16:31 |
PilzAdam |
I have done a hacked client where you can fly faster than everyone else without the fly priv |
16:31 |
Doc22_ |
lol |
16:32 |
Doc22_ |
fun to hack when there is nothing else to do lol |
16:32 |
Doc22_ |
just dont make it public lol |
16:32 |
PilzAdam |
I wont |
16:32 |
Doc22_ |
good |
16:33 |
Doc22_ |
haha |
16:33 |
Doc22_ |
too many script kiddies out there |
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markveidemanis |
HI |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
Hello |
16:37 |
markveidemanis |
wanna come on my server? |
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markveidemanis |
to play with mesecons |
16:37 |
markveidemanis |
:) |
16:38 |
PilzAdam |
sure; IP? |
16:38 |
markveidemanis |
213.123.65.242:30000 |
16:40 |
PilzAdam |
cant connect |
16:40 |
PilzAdam |
an ping times out |
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PilzAdam |
*and |
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markveidemanis |
so it noew work?? |
16:47 |
markveidemanis |
#not |
16:48 |
PilzAdam |
yep, doesnt work |
16:49 |
thexyz |
!up 213.123.65.242 |
16:49 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 DOWN |
16:49 |
markveidemanis |
i just removed mesecons:( try onw |
16:51 |
Calinou |
!up 127.0.0.1 |
16:51 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000 UP |
16:51 |
Calinou |
heh |
16:51 |
Calinou |
!up google.com:80 |
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moltenbot |
Minetest server google.com:80:30000 DOWN |
16:51 |
Calinou |
lol |
16:51 |
Calinou |
custom port fail |
16:52 |
PilzAdam |
!up google.com 80 |
16:52 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server google.com:80 DOWN |
16:52 |
Calinou |
!up facebook.com |
16:52 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server facebook.com:30000 DOWN |
16:52 |
Calinou |
facebook hosts no MT server, that sucks! |
16:54 |
markveidemanis |
i re-forwarded port try now |
16:54 |
PilzAdam |
!up 213.123.65.242 |
16:54 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 DOWN |
16:55 |
PilzAdam |
have you checked your IP? |
16:55 |
thexyz |
!up minetest.ru |
16:55 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP |
16:55 |
markveidemanis |
yes it was working yesterday |
16:55 |
PilzAdam |
IPs change sometimes |
16:56 |
markveidemanis |
LOL... |
16:56 |
markveidemanis |
86.172.129.21:30000 |
16:56 |
markveidemanis |
ignorance |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
!up 86.172.129.2 |
16:56 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 86.172.129.2:30000 DOWN |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
!up 86.172.129.21 |
16:56 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 86.172.129.21:30000 UP |
16:57 |
markveidemanis |
what does: on_newplayer mean- in server console |
16:57 |
PilzAdam |
here we go |
16:57 |
markveidemanis |
it works perfectly!!] |
16:58 |
bulletrulz |
!up c55.me:30000 |
16:59 |
bulletrulz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULx2qcsioY No Face |
16:59 |
Doc22_ |
Oldcoder are you there |
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Doc22_ |
hello |
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moltenbot |
welcome master |
17:11 |
markveidemanis |
server crashed, fixed now |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
17:15 |
thexyz |
iqualfragile: can you stop your bot from saying "welcome master" every time you join #minetest? |
17:15 |
iqualfragile |
shure |
17:15 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: make it say "welcome fuckers" instead ;) |
17:15 |
VanessaE |
since he has such a problem with cursing :D |
17:17 |
VanessaE |
hey PilzAdam. |
17:18 |
bulletrulz |
Give Me 20 dollars |
17:18 |
bulletrulz |
fuck |
17:19 |
Calinou |
/giveme money:20_dollars |
17:19 |
Calinou |
/giveme money:dollar 20 |
17:19 |
Calinou |
better |
17:19 |
bulletrulz |
ok slendy wont attack u |
17:19 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, is anyone playning on the server"? |
17:20 |
VanessaE |
not at present. PilzAdam was on earlier (how was it btw?) |
17:20 |
iqualfragile |
!re |
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bulletrulz |
!tw bulletrulz |
17:20 |
Minetest-tan |
website updated for today #work http://bulletrulz.webs.com (@bulletrulz) |
17:20 |
moltenbot |
Minetest-tans link: Bulletrulx website |
17:20 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
17:23 |
bulletrulz |
minetest.net |
17:23 |
bulletrulz |
http://www.minetest.net |
17:24 |
bulletrulz |
Fucking BOT1\ |
17:24 |
bulletrulz |
Who wants to play with me on minetest\ |
17:24 |
VanessaE |
zzz |
17:25 |
bulletrulz |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sex |
17:25 |
bulletrulz |
LOL!! XXD |
17:26 |
Fabiter |
Hello! :D |
17:27 |
bulletrulz |
welcome Fabiter |
17:27 |
bulletrulz |
!tw mijyn |
17:27 |
Minetest-tan |
Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/mijyn?1354728443.46 (@mijyn) |
17:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest-tans link: Mi J Kim (MiJyn) auf Twitter |
17:27 |
bulletrulz |
!tw _mijyn_ |
17:27 |
Minetest-tan |
Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/_mijyn_?1354728457.19 (@_mijyn_) |
17:27 |
Fabiter |
Thank you bulletrulz! :) |
17:27 |
bulletrulz |
!tw bulletrulz |
17:27 |
Minetest-tan |
website updated for today #work http://bulletrulz.webs.com (@bulletrulz) |
17:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest-tans link: Bulletrulx website |
17:30 |
bulletrulz |
!tw slenderman |
17:30 |
Minetest-tan |
@SLessard Safe Travels! (@slenderman) |
17:30 |
bulletrulz |
!tw minetest_c55 |
17:30 |
Minetest-tan |
Can't wait for #Minetest 0.4 stable to come out :D (@minetest_c55) |
17:31 |
bulletrulz |
!tw jordan4ibanez |
17:31 |
Minetest-tan |
Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell http://arcticready.com/social/5172554-because-we-dont-care-about-tomorrow-wher (@jordan4ibanez) |
17:31 |
thexyz |
bulletrulz: can you please stop flooding the bot? |
17:31 |
moltenbot |
Minetest-tans link: Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell Let's Go! |
17:31 |
bulletrulz |
whyy!!!! thexyz nobody is talking |
17:32 |
thexyz |
if you want to chat with her, /msg Minetest-tan |
17:32 |
PilzAdam |
bulletrulz, PM the bot if you want to play |
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MiJyn |
@bulletrulz, it's __MiJyn__ lol |
17:45 |
MiJyn |
!tw __MiJyn__ |
17:45 |
Minetest-tan |
I'll have some fun with the "Shape" class... (@__MiJyn__) |
17:45 |
MiJyn |
oh yeah, my abandoned game engine... |
17:45 |
MiJyn |
it worked |
17:45 |
MiJyn |
but slow :/ |
17:49 |
thexyz |
have you reported this bug? |
17:49 |
PilzAdam |
easy to fix: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/localplayer.cpp#L475 |
17:52 |
PilzAdam |
the movement of the client it relatively easy to hack |
17:56 |
Zeg9 |
It's because on my server, the position isn't checked for "anticheat" |
17:58 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: yeah but anticheat catches you |
17:58 |
Calinou |
note: you can fly regardless of privileges, but if you want to fly at fast speed you need fast priv |
17:58 |
Calinou |
:> |
17:58 |
Calinou |
we need fly checks :P |
17:59 |
PilzAdam |
if no collision is reported for 10 sec. kill the player |
17:59 |
PilzAdam |
and if hes not moving down at high speed |
18:01 |
thexyz |
i don't like this kind of heuristics |
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bulletrulz |
MiJyn, ho |
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* Jordach |
is having a shitty day |
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telek |
Jordach: When life gives you shit, make fertilizer :D |
18:15 |
Jordach |
herh |
18:15 |
Jordach |
heh |
18:16 |
* Jordach |
is still pissed either way |
18:16 |
telek |
Alternative, if you're a monkey: When life gives you shit, toss it on somebody else. |
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khonkhortisan |
ran |
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OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
Doc22, I am now |
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OldCoder |
Slept very late today. Yesterday was tiring. |
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babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hello! |
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mauvebic |
jordach |
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Jordach |
yo |
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mauvebic |
and heeee's gone lol |
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mauvebic |
you wanted to dl my map n mods? |
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neko259 |
Hi all. Does moreblocks stable version work with minetest 0.4.3? |
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MiJyn |
does anyone else have remobo or hamachi issues? |
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MiJyn |
I'm building a heavily modded server |
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Jordach |
<mauvebic> you wanted to dl my map n mods? why ye |
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Jordach |
yes |
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Jordach |
my client spazzed |
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mauvebic |
theyre out :-) |
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mauvebic |
map is 100mb tho lol |
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MiJyn |
hi Jordach |
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MiJyn |
Can anyone help me with hamachi? |
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MiJyn |
I can't make anything work there |
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Jordach |
hm? |
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Jordach |
MiJyn - sudo apt-get haguachi |
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MiJyn |
hi |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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MiJyn |
how is everyone? |
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VanessaE |
meh. |
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STHGOM |
good! |
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MiJyn |
I learned something: Don't upgrade your kernel in archlinux unless you plan on rebooting straight away lol |
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STHGOM |
what happened? |
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PilzAdam |
!c 20*60 |
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Minetest-tan |
1200 |
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OldCoder |
No bot battles today please |
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MiJyn |
@STHGOM, Hamachi stopped working lol |
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PilzAdam |
OldCoder, I realy wanted to calculate this; and open a calculator is slower than this |
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STHGOM |
ohh... |
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STHGOM |
whats that? |
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STHGOM |
lol |
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MiJyn |
STHGOM, a free VPN service so that any computers can access one another (helps for minetest servers) |
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STHGOM |
I don't know much about linux exept thats its awsome |
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MiJyn |
lol yeah |
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STHGOM |
ok |
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STHGOM |
thanks |
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Jordach |
i challenge you to dualboot pc-bsd with linux |
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MiJyn |
easy @Jordach |
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* STHGOM |
is sparky on minetest |
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MiJyn |
use GNU parted! |
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MiJyn |
or, (I humbly recommend) LParted! :P |
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MiJyn |
what's the nodename of shovel? |
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MiJyn |
default:shovel? |
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Jordach |
default:steel_shovel, default:stone_shovel, default:steel_shovel |
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MiJyn |
thanks! I decided to use pick_mese |
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STHGOM |
Hello! |
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yxkvast |
Hi i have a problem with installin minetest on ubuntu, i solved some problems now and the fail log is smaller now. (but still failing) :) |
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iqualfragile |
well, i guess nobody besides b.s. is able to dechipher the information you gave us |
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iqualfragile |
(specify your problem yxkvast ) |
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Jordach |
MiJyn - next time, use the default mod from minetest_game + grep |
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Jordach |
anyways, night all |
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Jordach |
OldCoder, VanessaE, have a nice day! |
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OldCoder |
c u |
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yxkvast |
i did send a PM to iqualfragile |
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iqualfragile |
!t yxkvast paste |
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moltenbot |
yxkvast: Please use ZeroBin to post your logfiles, do not paste them into IRC. |
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yxkvast |
i am downloading jockey kde and kernel mods |
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moltenbot |
hitchcock.freenode.nets link: freenode: frequently-asked questions |
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yxkvast |
moltenbot: this log is quite short, but okay ^^ |
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iqualfragile |
yup, you just need to install drivers |
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Octupus |
hello |
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yxkvast |
maybe this link will work.. |
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yxkvast |
'http://pastebin.com/VTQwBMfV |
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moltenbot |
yxkvasts link: minetest - Pastebin.com |
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iqualfragile |
hi Octupus |
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babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
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Octupus |
hi |
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MiJyn |
where is cave generation? |
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MiJyn |
how do I turn it off? |
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telek |
MiJyn: There's no 'option' to turn it off. You'd either have to find, or make a mod to override the cave creation behavior. |
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MiJyn |
telek, no, in the source code |
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MiJyn |
I did cave_amount = 0.0 |
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MiJyn |
hoping it works |
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telek |
MiJyn: Oh. Is that stuff still handled in C/C++? I assumed it was all lua by now. |
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MiJyn |
oh |
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MiJyn |
idk |
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telek |
MiJyn: Let me know if that cave_amount did it. Might be worth a patch for config file options for some of those things. |
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MiJyn |
somewhat |
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telek |
MiJyn: You know you'd have to either start with a fresh world, or a mod that would reset or empty previously generated blocks to see a difference in currently explored areas, right? |
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MiJyn |
telek, yes, I know |
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MiJyn |
I fixed it |
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telek |
What'd it turn out to be? |
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MiJyn |
no caves! |
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telek |
Oh you mean you DID successfully manage to get them to not spawn, cool :) |
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MiJyn |
yes! |
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MiJyn |
cave_amount = 0.0 |
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MiJyn |
caves_count = 0.0 |
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MiJyn |
bruises_count = 0 |
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MiJyn |
wait, caves_count = 0 |
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MiJyn |
there |
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telek |
What's bruises_count? |
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MiJyn |
no idea |
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sokomine |
strange effects on redcrabs server: people saw me with things sticking in my playerchar i didn't even have in my inv |
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telek |
That like fissures/crevices in the ground surface? |
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sokomine |
relogin helped |
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MiJyn |
but it affects caves |
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* telek |
nods. |
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sokomine |
oh? caves can be deactivated? that sounds good! |
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MiJyn |
yep |
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sokomine |
great! |
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* sokomine |
jumps into a cart and bugs around happily :) |
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yxkvast |
i do not know what driver i need to make minetest to work sufficiently. |
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sokomine |
people keep asking for a build for windows now that redcrab switched to 0.4.4 maybe it would be a good idea to post a link in the topic? i don't have win |
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OldCoder |
Folks I'll be offline to take my laptop for repairs. Back later. Nice to see everybody. |
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Taoki |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55209 I posted about a feature suggestion I had, which I think would be really interesting to consider (the post is a bit larger). In short, I'm thinking of a feature to allow realtime scripting from the minetest client while the server is running, so any player can create custom items on servers with this feature enabled (similar to Second Life). |
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moltenbot |
Taokis link: Realtime scripting with uploaded media (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
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bulletrulz |
!tw __mijyn__ |
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Minetest-tan |
I'll have some fun with the "Shape" class... (@__mijyn__) |
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bulletrulz |
!tw bulletrulz |
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Minetest-tan |
@CMPunk should do the original thing in vacant the title (@bulletrulz) |
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bulletrulz |
lol |
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bulletrulz |
!tw notch |
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Minetest-tan |
I enjoy learning things. =D (@notch) |
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bulletrulz |
!tw lol |
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Minetest-tan |
BRITNEY fans, what are your thoughts on Tom from The Wanted? (@lol) |
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felix20 |
Taoki, personally I wouldn't want that enabled, but it would certainly be interesting |
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Taoki |
felix20: Yes, it surely wouldn't be a default, but some servers could have it |
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bulletrulz |
!tw mtv |
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Minetest-tan |
#Selenators! #Directioners! #Beliebers! #Navi! #Beystans and more! We're crowning the Last Fans Standing: http://on.fb.me/YPnCYZ (@mtv) |
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moltenbot |
Minetest-tans link: Update Your Browser | Facebook |
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bulletrulz |
!tw twitter |
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Minetest-tan |
"@urbandictionary grows daily followers 6.5x by implementing the Follow Button" - https://dev.twitter.com/blog/urbandictionary-account-grows-daily-followers-65x-implementing-follow-button ^JC (@twitter) |
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moltenbot |
Minetest-tans link: The @urbandictionary account grows daily followers 6.5x by implementing the Follow Button | Twitter Developers |
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bulletrulz |
:D |
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Octupus |
hi |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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Octupus |
hi Dogzilal131 |
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Dogzilla131 |
hi octu |
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STHGOM |
if anyone wants me say STHGOM |
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MiJyn |
hey guys |
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MiJyn |
I quickly hacked a mod |
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MiJyn |
trying to rewrite the nether mod |
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MiJyn |
as you can see, lava generation is NOT amazing lol |
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MiJyn |
but basic rooms (based on c55's old dungeon code) is done |
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MiJyn |
!!! |
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MiJyn |
http://imgur.com/qhdhm,pXQDv |
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moltenbot |
MiJyns link: imgur: the simple image sharer |
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MiJyn |
yeah |
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MiJyn |
you are correct lol |
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bulletrulz |
lol |
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MiJyn |
as you can see, it was minorly edited so that I could survive lol |
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MiJyn |
the scene |
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MiJyn |
second pic |
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bulletrulz |
yeah i see |
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bulletrulz |
so |
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MiJyn |
it's generated! |
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MiJyn |
this is like the swimming pool for the nether fortress |
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MiJyn |
I'm going to add more rooms soon |
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MiJyn |
any suggestions? |
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NekoGloop |
minetest-tan? lol? |
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MiJyn |
? |
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NekoGloop |
-tan == -chan == someone the person finds endearing. |
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MiJyn |
lol |
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MiJyn |
did you see the screenshots? |
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MiJyn |
of nether 0.2? |
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MiJyn |
(WIP) |
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NekoGloop |
nope. |
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MiJyn |
http://imgur.com/qhdhm,pXQDv |
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moltenbot |
MiJyns link: imgur: the simple image sharer |
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STHGOM |
bye! |
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Doc22 |
hey octupus |
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Octupus |
hi Doc22 |
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* VanessaE |
is back. yay. |
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Doc22 |
hey vanessae |
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VanessaE |
hey |
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