Time Nick Message 00:00 cisoun any 0.4.4 server ? 00:01 Octupus Can any1 who is good with mods how do i make a mesepick instant? 00:02 Octupus im making a mod how do i make the blocks instant 00:02 Octupus *pick 00:02 marktraceur Octupus: Would you elaborate on that, please? 00:03 Octupus im making apick and i want it to be instant 00:03 marktraceur Octupus: Then wherever you see a smallish number, add a really big number. Tada!!!! 00:04 marktraceur Or maybe it's the other way 'round. I don't know. 00:04 NakedFury cisoun: I think all minetest.org 30000 to 30014 servers are 0.4.4 00:04 Octupus marktraceur u are talking about the uses 00:05 Octupus RealBadAngel,how do i make a block instant 00:05 Octupus *pick 00:05 cisoun NakedFury: weird I can't reach any server... 00:06 NakedFury it is up 00:07 NakedFury im connecting 00:07 cisoun damn 00:07 cisoun I made a mistake at one entry 00:07 cisoun nevermind 00:07 VanessaE hi all. 00:07 NakedFury there is an european server too but i dont remember the name now 00:07 NakedFury maybe europe.minetest.org 00:08 VanessaE cisoun: there's also my lagfest...er...server at 24.181.193.82 port 30000 00:10 cisoun this white font in the menu is getting me crazy 00:10 cisoun I can't see what I'm typing 00:10 cisoun FFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- 00:10 VanessaE your version of irrlicht is too new, no? 00:11 cisoun wait 00:11 cisoun 1.8-1 00:11 Octupus hi VanessaE 00:11 VanessaE that's too new 00:11 VanessaE MT only works right with the 1.7 series I guess 00:11 cisoun meh... 00:12 cisoun goddamn media files are slow to download on minetest.org 00:12 cisoun I should go to sleep 00:14 VanessaE nooooo 00:14 hohoho lol sleep is for the deaaaad 00:15 * hohoho wishes he could remember his registered nicks password.. or password to email :/ 00:15 hohoho <-- RAPHAEL 00:15 hohoho lol 00:18 iqualfragile the new design of http://minetest.net is nice 00:18 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: About - Minetest 00:18 NakedFury yep it is 00:19 hohoho I agree it is nice as well 00:20 Octupus wow im helping with 2 mods and making my own at the same time i feel special 00:21 NakedFury dammit I just ate and im still hungry 00:23 Octupus NakedFury,its the way of life 00:34 VanessaE OldCoder: minor update to plantlife if you are interested. 00:39 iqualfragile NakedFury: the bot also posts youtube-video-titles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc 00:39 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Die Antwoord - "Fatty Boom Boom" (Official Video) - YouTube 00:40 NakedFury didnt know that 00:41 babyface1031 OldCoder you still here 00:49 VanessaE apparently not 00:49 VanessaE now THAT is a handy function for the bot. 00:49 NakedFury he said bbl 00:49 VanessaE translate a youtube link into a human-readable title. 00:56 OldCoder Back 00:56 OldCoder babyface1031, I was out as announced above but am back 00:57 NakedFury welcome back 00:57 babyface1031 ok i saw i didnt knwo if you got back yet 00:57 babyface1031 but i played with the code on the bridges and was able to get it to work with one change 00:59 babyface1031 if you change where it says WOOD = stairs:wood_slab to WOOD = default:wood it works 01:00 marktraceur babyface1031: And by "works" you mean "is easier"? 01:00 marktraceur babyface1031: The documented craft recipe uses wood slabs, as I understand it 01:00 sdzen I would believe so whats wrong with wood slabs? 01:00 babyface1031 no we coiuldnt get the recipe to work when it was the wood slab i 01:01 LandMineMT wassssusp 01:01 marktraceur babyface1031: Make sure the name for wood slabs hasn't changed? 01:01 sdzen ello landmine 01:01 bulletrulz LandMineMT, Hello 01:01 sdzen done any greiving lately? 01:01 LandMineMT nah 01:01 LandMineMT busy with school 01:01 LandMineMT i was playing on a pvp server 01:01 LandMineMT but its not that fun 01:01 LandMineMT im super pro 01:02 marktraceur babyface1031: New stairs seems to use slab_MATERIAL, rather than the other way 'round. I'd suggest submitting a patch. 01:03 babyface1031 ok i will try that to see if that works cause slabs would make more since 01:04 LandMineMT hey babyface1031 you miss me gurl???? 01:05 babyface1031 i re looked at the code it does say stairs:slab_wood on the code 01:05 Octupus hi LandMineMT 01:05 LandMineMT hi octu 01:06 Octupus i was on the pvp server but they shut it down :( 01:06 LandMineMT yeah did he say why? 01:09 Octupus no 01:09 Octupus all ik i killed a dude who had 14 stacks of mithril :D 01:10 LandMineMT wow 01:10 LandMineMT i stole most of chadggg stuff 01:10 LandMineMT if you went to his mine shaft 01:10 LandMineMT you would find open chest with stuff in it 01:10 LandMineMT im so smart lol 01:11 LandMineMT what i did was this 01:11 LandMineMT i made a teleporter 01:11 LandMineMT so when you toss an object with Q over a teleporter 01:11 LandMineMT it teleports 01:11 LandMineMT so i made a teleporter everytime my inventory was full 01:11 LandMineMT and teleport it all to spawn lol 01:12 LandMineMT then when i was over stealing his stuff 01:12 LandMineMT i went and saved everything in chest 01:12 LandMineMT had to telepoort my whole inventory 4 times 01:12 LandMineMT all full with diamonds and titanium 01:13 babyface1031 marktracerur i think i found the proble but not positive the recipe for a stair:slab_wood it the same and a wood pressure plate 01:13 marktraceur babyface1031: That may be it. Also, learn to tab-complete 01:14 Octupus b4 i take a picture of my mod shud i add tnt to it after all it is a tool moid :D 01:14 babyface1031 tab complete? 01:14 Octupus lol 01:15 Octupus im going to make a tnt :) 01:15 Octupus so i had 4 tools and tnt 01:15 babyface1031 Octupus do you know what mod it the wood slab other that stairs 01:15 Octupus stairs 01:17 babyface1031 i have made wood slab with 3 wood on the bottom of the craft grid i was wondering what mod that is cause it wont work in the bridge mod 01:18 marktraceur babyface1031: Type "mar" and then press tab, in your IRC window. 01:18 babyface1031 marktraceur: oh neat 01:18 babyface1031 ty 01:18 marktraceur babyface1031: No problem 01:20 babyface1031 now if i could figure out what mod it the 3 wood on the bottom to make a slab i could fix the bridge mod right 01:20 marktraceur babyface1031: Alternatively, change the recipe yourself and be on your way 01:22 Octupus wow that is so easy now i dont need to type ut the whole name 01:22 babyface1031 Octupus: we both learned something new :D 01:22 marktraceur Octupus: Sadly tab-complete for normal words is still a distant dream :) 01:22 Octupus :) 01:22 Octupus babyface1031, can i do the idea with the colours of the glass 01:23 Octupus with green blue and green 01:23 Octupus *red :D 01:23 babyface1031 still looking at codes to learn a lil more first 01:24 marktraceur babyface1031: If you have questions, we're always happy to help! :) 01:24 marktraceur babyface1031: #minetest-mods e.g. 01:24 babyface1031 ok i just started playing with mods since i liked the bridge mod and it didnt work so i tryed to fix it 01:26 babyface1031 OldCoder: i just tryed it with a diffrent wood slab and it work i used the moreblocks:slab_wood in the code 01:28 OldCoder Oh? 01:28 OldCoder For bridges? 01:28 OldCoder Could you make a paste that explains how to do it? Or post to the mod thread at the forum? 01:30 Octupus OldCoder, i got a mod for you in about 10 - 15 mins 01:30 Octupus :D 01:34 OldCoder Octupus, Hi 01:34 OldCoder k 01:34 Octupus hello 01:36 Octupus OldCoder,hello https://github.com/Octupuslegs/Blocks/downloads 01:37 Octupus octutool is the 1 01:37 Octupus is there a forum moderator that can move my topic? 01:37 * marktraceur is going to start carrying around large foam blocks with URLs painted on them 01:37 marktraceur "Hello sir" *throws large foam block at person* 01:37 Octupus VanessaE,can u do this for me? 01:38 bulletrulz GIVE ME 20 DOLLARS 01:38 OldCoder Octupus, Reviewing 01:38 marktraceur bulletrulz: No. 01:38 Octupus :) 01:39 OldCoder Octupus, This is an update of the mod I call octublock, right? 01:40 Octupus no 01:40 OldCoder https://github.com/downloads/Octupuslegs/Blocks/octublock.zip 01:40 VanessaE Octupus: kinda busy at the moment - can you please add a post to the "mod move requests" thread? thanks. 01:40 OldCoder Octupus, I have that one; is it the same? 01:40 Octupus ok :) 01:40 OldCoder https://github.com/downloads/Octupuslegs/Blocks/octublock.zip 01:40 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi 01:40 Octupus hi face 01:40 Octupus oldcoderthere is 2 files in the 01:40 babyface1031 hi sorry about that i think i timed out 01:40 OldCoder Octupus, octublock and octutool. 01:41 OldCoder Update and new mod 01:41 Octupus *there i stopped developping octublock for a little 01:41 OldCoder is that right? 01:41 OldCoder Update and new mod ? 01:41 Octupus just new mod 01:41 babyface1031 OldCoder: did you see what i said about the bridge mod? 01:41 Octupus i need need to make better textures for octublock 01:41 OldCoder babyface1031, yes 01:41 OldCoder babyface1031, Will you post an explanation of how to use it to the mod thread? And should I keep the mod? 01:42 babyface1031 the mod works other that where it uses stair:slab_wood 01:42 OldCoder Octupus, Update and new mod? 01:42 OldCoder babyface1031, can you explain? 01:42 babyface1031 stair:slab_wood and the presure plates are the same recipe 01:43 OldCoder babyface1031, if it's all right, explain a bit 01:43 OldCoder Octupus, Update and new mod? 01:43 OldCoder Both? 01:43 Octupus just new mod friend :) 01:44 Octupus update not yet prob start to make better texture tomorrow 01:44 OldCoder all right 01:44 Octupus gracias again OC 01:45 OldCoder Sure 01:45 OldCoder octutool going in shortly 01:45 babyface1031 when making the bridge basis it uses a wood slab and the wood slab it uses that recipe is the same as the presure plate so when you try to make a stair:slab_wood in the craft window you get a wood presure plate 01:45 OldCoder babyface1031, should I keep bridges then? 01:45 OldCoder babyface1031, I am sorry but I don't follow. Is there a way to make bridges work? 01:45 babyface1031 as long as we change the wood slab to a slab ppl can make 01:46 OldCoder babyface1031, should I change the mod? 01:47 babyface1031 yes i was trying to see waht wood slab is that we can make to change it too but i dont know what mod it is in the the recipe is wood in the bottom 3 spots in the craft window 01:47 OldCoder babyface1031, I'd better remove bridges until the explanation is clear 01:47 babyface1031 ok 01:47 OldCoder Not sure I follow; can bridges be made to work? 01:47 Octupus well im done with octublock/ool tonight 01:47 OldCoder Octupus, adding in a minute 01:47 Octupus OC yes by changing the slab to a regular wooden block 01:48 OldCoder Octupus, I will patch the mod then 01:48 OldCoder Hold on 01:48 Octupus ik i mean like im tired and my brain hurts to continue 01:48 Octupus :D 01:48 OldCoder Octupus, then relax! 01:48 Octupus XD :D 01:48 OldCoder Really 01:48 Octupus what? 01:48 OldCoder Relax and have fun 01:49 Octupus ooo yes 01:49 OldCoder stairs:slab_wood 01:49 Octupus now i am building ma house :) 01:49 OldCoder Good 01:49 OldCoder What should this be: 01:49 OldCoder stairs:slab_wood 01:49 OldCoder ? 01:49 Octupus default:wood 01:49 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 ? 01:49 OldCoder That is all 01:49 OldCoder I change and it may work? 01:49 babyface1031 yes if it is that it does work 01:49 Octupus face said it did 01:49 OldCoder We will try it now! 01:49 Octupus :D 01:49 OldCoder Changes coming in a minute 01:50 OldCoder octutool added! bridges fixed! 01:50 babyface1031 ok 01:50 leo_in-game I forgot about the IRC mod. I was like "why are people talking to me in singleplayer!?" 01:50 OldCoder Are there any other mod changes or additions at this time? 01:50 babyface1031 i dont think 01:51 marktraceur OldCoder: I have released my modpack, but no need to add it :) 01:51 OldCoder marktraceur, what is in it? 01:51 OldCoder Link to thread is? 01:51 marktraceur OldCoder: Transactors, which I think you saw already, and factories 01:51 OldCoder They are high CPU? 01:52 marktraceur OldCoder: I haven't tested with more than one or two, but it shouldn't be too bad 01:52 marktraceur OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 01:52 moltenbot marktraceurs link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 01:52 OldCoder Interesting; I will review in the near future 01:52 OldCoder Perhaps a Factories World 01:52 babyface1031 marktraceur: i have yours on singleplayer testing them 01:52 OldCoder Worlds are cycling! 01:52 * VanessaE pokes OldCoder in his private messages. ;) 01:53 OldCoder VanessaE, k 01:54 OldCoder Octupus, do you wish octutool in most of the worlds or just 30004? 01:55 Octupus OC what ever u wish to do :D 01:56 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 others: restarting 01:57 babyface1031 ok 01:57 OldCoder Test Bridges. Test Octutool. 01:58 Octupus Sapo 01:59 babyface1031 the bridge mod works now 02:00 Octupus i gtg in 5 mins 02:00 Octupus its late here 02:02 Octupus gtg every1 have a good night 02:07 LandMineMT omg!!! a was stung by a bee!!! i know this is gods punishment for not going to church on sunday 02:08 bulletrulz LandMineMT, lol 02:08 bulletrulz god wont punish you if u did not go to church 02:08 bulletrulz if he exsiscts 02:09 OldCoder babyface1031, ty! 02:09 babyface1031 no problem 02:09 bulletrulz babyface1031, im a heel 02:09 LandMineMT bulletrulz he does exist... 02:10 bulletrulz LandMineMT, maybe maybe not 02:10 bulletrulz he could exsist 02:10 LandMineMT wait...why are you saying that? he DOES exist...there is no arguing abou tit 02:10 bulletrulz LandMineMT, where is your proof? 02:11 marktraceur bulletrulz: Meet LandMineMT, he's a troll 02:11 bulletrulz exactly 02:11 babyface1031 what is a good program to make textures of mods 02:11 bulletrulz marktraceur, i know 02:11 marktraceur babyface1031: GIMP 02:11 bulletrulz but LandMineMT got any proof? 02:11 bulletrulz Nope 02:12 bulletrulz so in all probalitiy he does not exist 02:12 marktraceur bulletrulz: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence 02:12 bulletrulz marktraceur, it is 02:12 bulletrulz LOL 02:12 bulletrulz if theres no evidence 02:12 LandMineMT there doesnt have to be prove 02:12 LandMineMT its like air 02:12 bulletrulz then he hasnt done anything 02:13 LandMineMT you cant see it 02:13 LandMineMT but you can feel it 02:13 bulletrulz God Might exist but i Dont think he does 02:13 LandMineMT he does 02:13 bulletrulz He might agian but in all probalitlty he doesent 02:13 LandMineMT OldCoder help me out on this.... 02:13 marktraceur This has to be the least intelligent conversation about religion I've ever seen 02:14 bulletrulz ok god make me quit irc right now 02:14 marktraceur Oh, hey, and the least on topic 02:14 khonkhortisan hi LandMineMT 02:14 bulletrulz well im saying that he could exist but most likely does not! 02:14 LandMineMT lol bulletrulz your funny 02:14 LandMineMT everyone knows god doesnt have internet 02:14 bulletrulz See 02:14 bulletrulz Ok if gods real turn the tv off 02:15 bulletrulz Still on 02:15 bulletrulz God Most likely is a myth 02:15 iqualfragile there is no god 02:15 iqualfragile there ist just CN 02:15 bulletrulz iqualfragile, i agree 02:15 iqualfragile !joke 02:15 moltenbot "iqualfragile destroyed the periodic table, because iqualfragile only recognizes the element of surprise." 02:15 bulletrulz oh 02:15 bulletrulz well ok 02:15 khonkhortisan god may not exist but most likely does 02:15 * marktraceur sighs 02:16 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, no most likely not 02:16 marktraceur Ops of #minetest, please just ban these people. 02:16 khonkhortisan and I've heard a response to 'do x if you exist in the next five minutes' being 'you can't exhaust the patience of god in five minutes' 02:16 khonkhortisan we have to be doing something bad to be banned 02:17 marktraceur khonkhortisan: Flame wars over religion definitely applies. 02:17 khonkhortisan can't have the word BAnneD without BAD 02:17 OldCoder LandMineMT, On what? 02:17 OldCoder *scroll* 02:17 LandMineMT the fact that god exist 02:17 LandMineMT i say yes 02:17 LandMineMT everyone says no 02:17 OldCoder Oh... I'd need to think earlier in the day 02:17 OldCoder Can you say what God is? 02:17 OldCoder To you? 02:17 * marktraceur cannot believe this 02:18 khonkhortisan hehe 02:18 marktraceur A) Off topic in the worst way 02:18 OldCoder marktraceur, It is polite off-topic 02:18 khonkhortisan doesn't look flaming to me 02:18 OldCoder Better than bots you must admit 02:18 marktraceur B) Alienating to atheists, agnostics, and non-judeo-christian religions. 02:18 OldCoder LandMineMT, Go ahead 02:18 marktraceur So no, not better than bots, totally worse. 02:18 khonkhortisan like "Your god's stupid!" "No, YOUR god's stupid" would be flaming 02:18 OldCoder marktraceur, Just asking what the meaning is 02:18 OldCoder khonkhortisan is right; this seems more philosophical 02:19 LandMineMT marktraceur if you have nothing to add to the current topic keep quite 02:19 khonkhortisan atheism is a religion and deserves no more and no less religious protection than other religions 02:19 marktraceur khonkhortisan: Even if we were to assume that saying "God exists" doesn't alienate some religions, you're alienating atheists and agnostics. 02:19 OldCoder marktraceur, by asking what is meant? 02:19 * marktraceur wonders why he even bothers 02:19 * OldCoder considers 02:19 OldCoder marktraceur, you bother because you are sharp 02:19 OldCoder and to the point 02:19 OldCoder This is good 02:20 marktraceur I mean, I'm happy to see discussions about religion, but as I keep having to point out, this is #minetest. 02:20 OldCoder marktraceur, you are correct 02:20 LandMineMT marktraceur denying god will only not bless you in the future 02:20 OldCoder Off topic is permitted 02:20 OldCoder a bit 02:20 OldCoder LandMineMT, but there you make his point for him... 02:20 khonkhortisan I can see how saying "God exists" could alienate an atheist, but an agnostic? Don't agnostics believe they don't know whether god exists? 02:20 OldCoder what is God to you? 02:21 marktraceur LandMineMT: You're absolutely correct, so I'd better go hide. 02:21 LandMineMT good 02:21 LandMineMT now we can talk 02:21 LandMineMT bulletrulz do you have prove jahova doesnt exist? 02:21 khonkhortisan lol@hiding 02:22 hohoho LandMineMT why pushing religious talk? I go for a stroll and come back to religious debate 02:22 OldCoder Restarting worlds with minor fixes 02:22 hohoho lol 02:22 khonkhortisan יְהֹוָה 02:22 OldCoder The Word 02:22 hohoho I personally believe in a divine essence however each has their own right to believe what they want without harassment from others lol 02:23 khonkhortisan I think it was gloop I had a similar discussion with here some time ago 02:23 hohoho discussion is fine. confrontation about ones beliefs imo isn't fine 02:23 LandMineMT hohoho your a devil worshiper 02:23 khonkhortisan like that kind of confrontation 02:23 hohoho lol LandMineMT name calling doesn't help your case 02:24 khonkhortisan the person hid that I was going to ask how saying god exists alienates agnostics :( 02:24 LandMineMT im not name calling 02:24 hohoho for one the "devil" is a creation of the Catholic Church 02:24 hohoho look it up 02:24 khonkhortisan You're a [insert name here] = calling someone [same name] 02:24 khonkhortisan hohoho, I haven't heard that before 02:24 hohoho and two there is no speak of hell in the bible. the closest reference when reading original languages is a trash pit 02:25 hohoho so your statement that I am a devil worshiper is invalid 02:25 hohoho lol 02:25 khonkhortisan Would you also say there's no heaven, but only paradise? 02:25 hohoho I personally believe in reincarnation based on experiences and my own research 02:25 hohoho how long it goes on im not sure 02:26 LandMineMT reincarnation doesnt exist 02:26 khonkhortisan yuck, that's the only problem with reincarnation is how long it goes on - and how you lose your memory 02:26 * hohoho hasn't lost all his memory 02:27 iqualfragile god does not exist 02:27 OldCoder Round trees are square again; this should speed things up 02:27 khonkhortisan hohoho, I'm not finding the catholic church devil creation 02:28 bulletrulz Lol i dont believe in the devel either 02:29 hohoho khonkhortisan its out there but im not interested in trying to find it again. did this research one for my own benefit. don't care to repeat it lol 02:29 hohoho basically the findings were basically the devil and hell were created by the catholic church 02:29 khonkhortisan One thing is for sure, either you have a soul or the clinical definition for death is too soon. 02:30 LandMineMT hohoho does evil exist? 02:30 khonkhortisan Then the protestants picked up the idea from them? 02:30 khonkhortisan My religion class wasn't that good 02:31 hohoho as for a soul.. I've seen some "evidence" supporting a possibility of past lives. I've also been lucky enough to meet someone from a past life in this life and they remember as well. they came to me with their memory and it lined up with the events from mine. he had no idea at the time of my memory 02:32 LandMineMT Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man 02:32 khonkhortisan I've seen evidence both ways, and can't explain either away 02:32 khonkhortisan LandMineMT, that doesn't make sense 02:32 LandMineMT of course it does 02:32 LandMineMT thats what einstien said 02:33 LandMineMT and hohoho i htought that you loose your memory when you reincarnate 02:33 LandMineMT you just contradicted yourself 02:33 khonkhortisan some people keep partial memory, so I've heard 02:33 hohoho I never said you lost your memory on reincarnation 02:33 hohoho I don't have full memory of past lives but I do remember bits and pieces. usually days before and of death 02:34 hohoho I presume such a traumatic experience gets remembered easier 02:34 bulletrulz hohoho, really i do too 02:34 hohoho lol I've been shot stabbed fallen to my death hanged etc etc 02:34 hohoho and remember those deaths including the feelings and sensations ~_~ 02:35 LandMineMT so you just remember your deaths? 02:35 LandMineMT then how do you say you remember this person? 02:35 khonkhortisan interesting 02:35 hohoho well so far 99% of the memories I've had is of last 2-3 days of life. but that 1% has been others 02:35 bulletrulz wierd i remember a couple deaths 02:35 khonkhortisan LandMineMT, so evil is just the absence of good? 02:36 LandMineMT yes in the hearts of men 02:36 hohoho there is no evil or good imo. there is just perception of events AS evil or good 02:36 OldCoder Wait 02:36 hohoho to an "evil" man, an "evil" event is "good" 02:36 bulletrulz i was killed 02:36 OldCoder Hell is the Absence of God 02:36 hohoho however there is action/reaction. I do believe in you reap what you sow. I also believe in what you do will come back to you. 02:37 khonkhortisan to an "evil" man, they do evil, other people do good. to an "insane" man, evil and good are reversed 02:37 hohoho do "good" get "good" etc 02:37 hohoho I also believe in treating others as I wish to be treated 02:38 hohoho however when it comes to organized religions, I have to say based on evidence they are a bunch of bullocks 02:38 hohoho of course people are free to believe what they wish 02:38 hohoho I won't stop them 02:38 hohoho lol 02:38 hohoho and yes I was raised a christian 02:38 khonkhortisan based on the idea that only one religion can be true, most organized religions are a bunch of bullocks 02:39 hohoho when it comes to a religion that someone is following I like to ask them to look into their religions history 02:39 hohoho what people did in the name of their religion 02:39 hohoho then decide if you want to really follow such 02:39 LandMineMT_ god i hate my modem 02:39 LandMineMT_ it d/c 02:40 khonkhortisan I would use that argument against martyrdom 02:40 * hohoho comments not on LandMineMTs first message when they came back 02:40 LandMineMT_ anyhow i win the argument....god exist final worl 02:40 khonkhortisan you missed much of the argument 02:40 hohoho lol 02:40 LandMineMT_ if you dont agree with me i will have my pal OldCoder ban you 02:40 khonkhortisan pal? 02:40 LandMineMT_ that statment there proves god exist 02:41 khonkhortisan haha wait I have a response, gotta read the wiki 02:41 LandMineMT_ pal...buddy 02:41 hohoho anyone narrow enough minded to ban someone because they don't believe what they believe shouldn't have authority 02:41 khonkhortisan "argumentum ad baculum" 02:41 OldCoder Is this an argument? It remains philosophical 02:42 khonkhortisan LandMineMT_ is right because if he wasn't right I'd be banned. Argumentum ad baculum. 02:42 hohoho I personally am not fond of most satanists due to most actions performed by satanists. however I will not "ban" them from a place I have authority over just on that issue 02:42 hohoho lol 02:43 khonkhortisan what I get from that last sentence is that you don't judge people by their character, but by their current actions 02:43 LandMineMT_ no 02:43 LandMineMT_ he is saying he is a satanist 02:43 hohoho well I try not to judge at all. however I do have bias over ones actions past and present. 02:43 MiJyn ? 02:43 khonkhortisan that's not at all what he's saying 02:44 hohoho if one has done much evil, I consider them evil. however if they change I will not hold their past against them 02:44 LandMineMT_ so if you had a sister....rapes her...but tells you he changed....you will let him in your home? 02:44 hohoho saying one has changed doesn't change one 02:44 hohoho actions speak louder than words 02:45 khonkhortisan using examples to test a general statement seems to not go well 02:45 LandMineMT_ i willl you know this person who raped your sister changed? 02:45 LandMineMT_ with acions? 02:45 hohoho and yes if someone murdered my mother and truly was repentant of it and changed their ways away from the "evil". I would forgive. 02:45 hohoho christians are supposed to forgive as well 02:45 hohoho would you forgive such a person? 02:45 hohoho lol 02:46 LandMineMT_ who said i was christian?.....and no 02:46 hohoho judge not lest ye be judged 02:46 hohoho lol 02:46 khonkhortisan I remember there being a religion where if you really felt you had to do something, you could do it. It doesn't seem to stand up very well to specific scenarios. 02:46 hohoho sounds like that crap my brother was into 02:46 khonkhortisan do you know what it's called? 02:46 hohoho name escapes me 02:46 khonkhortisan me too 02:47 hohoho lol haven't thought of its name in over a year 02:47 hohoho thelema? 02:47 LandMineMT_ OldCoder ban hohoho he doesnt agree in my god views 02:48 OldCoder 02:48 OldCoder *scroll* 02:48 hohoho lol 02:48 khonkhortisan that would be religious discrimination 02:48 OldCoder I like this discussion 02:48 hohoho ban me if you wish but if you do on those grounds it will look incredibly bad on your part 02:48 khonkhortisan exactly 02:48 OldCoder I have no intention of banning people for polite discussion 02:49 hohoho mm jalapeno 02:49 OldCoder A religion? 02:49 hohoho mm jalapeno poppers* 02:49 khonkhortisan needs an ñ 02:49 OldCoder Sounds different 02:49 khonkhortisan Jalapeño 02:50 * khonkhortisan likes using fancy characters 02:50 hohoho it may make me sound "like a evil man" for saying this to many but in my perfect world there would be no organized religions. from looking at history the majority if not all has caused directly much "evil" in this world 02:51 khonkhortisan life would be better if the one true religion was the only religion. But if any religion gets that idea, life gets worse. 02:51 hohoho there is no one true religion imo 02:52 hohoho there are many paths to walk down 02:52 OldCoder Many lamps? 02:52 hohoho all eventually lead to same destination 02:52 khonkhortisan but that is in itself a religion (or a basis of one) 02:52 khonkhortisan the many paths vs. one path 02:52 hohoho that is a belief that I hold 02:52 hohoho not a religion exactly 02:52 khonkhortisan oh yeah that reminds me of an argument 02:54 khonkhortisan let's say there's two religions in the world. A believes there are two paths, B believes it's the only path. If A is true, you're okay believing either A or B. If B is true, you're only okay believing B. By the chances (if there's only two religions in the world) you're better off believing B. But with so many world religions, that argument doesn't hold. 02:54 LandMineMT_ i will personaly send a text mesage to god....he will send you all to darkest place and reincarnate you into rats for your sins 02:55 khonkhortisan okay, but you'll have to explain how your text message holds any more weight than anyone else's 02:55 hohoho but landminemt doesn't that go against "teachings of god"? unless you believe in some non christian or non islamic god 02:55 hohoho non jewish god as well 02:55 hohoho lol 02:56 hohoho as for previous statement, what is both religions are wrong? 02:56 LandMineMT_ when did god say you cant shoot him a sMS? 02:56 hohoho what if say for sake of argument there is no paths. it is all a dream? 02:56 khonkhortisan that doesn't even matter, because there's more than two religions anyway 02:57 hohoho lol 02:57 khonkhortisan I have to assume at least one world religion is right 02:57 khonkhortisan iirc in islam isn't it that your good and bad deeds are balanced against each other and the only way to be sure the good will weigh more than the bad is martrdom? 02:57 LandMineMT_ if it was all a dream....we would all be gods dream 02:57 khonkhortisan or that one dream-in-a-dream movie 02:57 hohoho I presume no "organized" religions are right based on my over a decade of research 02:58 hohoho basically my opinion is everyone has it wrong. maybe I do as well 02:58 hohoho lol 02:58 khonkhortisan what do you mean by organized? You don't have to go to church and you can still be right? 02:58 hohoho I also say IF there was one true "god" that "got some ancient humans to write a book about them"... they sure did a crappy job at it 02:58 MiJyn I'm very sorry for interupting this interesting conversation, but how do you move fast in MT? 02:59 hohoho J 02:59 hohoho assuming you have fast priv 02:59 khonkhortisan maybe the modern humans did a crappy job translating :) 02:59 MiJyn thanks hohoho 02:59 khonkhortisan I changed it to h 02:59 hohoho if not flying you would hold I think its left shift while moving while J is enabled 02:59 khonkhortisan either shift or the "use" key 03:00 hohoho I have my use key set to E since that's how it "was" 03:00 hohoho its how I got used to it 03:00 hohoho lol 03:00 hohoho if a one true god wanted their "children" to follow rules. the book would be short and to the point. god is supposed to be perfect afterall 03:01 hohoho a simple list of laws/rules/commands with no fluff 03:01 khonkhortisan and the children are supposed to be imperfect, unable to just follow rules 03:01 OldCoder Free will 03:01 hohoho of course the bible as we know it today is basically the jewish bible mixed with other books put together by a pagan if im remembering correctly 03:01 khonkhortisan faith as a helper 03:01 hohoho and all books written by men 03:02 khonkhortisan and the islam bible says blasphemy about jesus according to christians 03:02 hohoho torah if I remember correct (referring to jewish bible) 03:02 khonkhortisan yep 03:02 hohoho for anyone who follows islam.. read the Koran closely and fully 03:03 hohoho for christians read the bible fully and closely as well 03:03 hohoho there is much many don't know about either 03:03 hohoho lol 03:03 hohoho excuse me 03:03 hohoho quran 03:03 * hohoho mental fumble 03:04 khonkhortisan Qu'ran, no? 03:04 hohoho close enough 03:04 LandMineMT_ hohoho you are retarded 03:04 hohoho im not a follower of islam 03:04 LandMineMT_ ou dont even know how to type it 03:04 OldCoder Focus on points and not people 03:04 LandMineMT_ everyhting you just said has become invalid 03:04 khonkhortisan neither am I, but I played a game called ur-quan masters that had aliens with different religions - never got near the end of the game 03:04 hohoho lol landminemt you have said much to make many of your arguments "invalid" 03:05 OldCoder Strive for common ground 03:05 LandMineMT_ just by talking to you my IQ dropped 30 points....hohoho 03:05 OldCoder What are you moving towards or away from? 03:05 hohoho however I don't like to nitpick what one says. it's the idea behind the words I look at 03:05 khonkhortisan I believe doorknobs should be worshipped! I'm an idiot for thinking so! Because I'm an idiot, you should ignore me no matter how well-thought out my arguments are! :P 03:05 hohoho for your information landminemt my iq has routinely tested over 135 03:05 hohoho but to me its but a number 03:05 khonkhortisan oh yeah iq tests 03:06 OldCoder Is this relative to either of you; in this context? 03:06 khonkhortisan I don't know mine 03:06 khonkhortisan iq is off-topic religion is off-topic minetest 03:06 hohoho everything is off topic 03:06 hohoho lol 03:06 OldCoder Is there a God in Minetest? 03:06 hohoho of course im all for going back on topic if someone wishes to discuss minetest 03:06 khonkhortisan no, god is really hard to program in 03:07 OldCoder I C 03:07 hohoho lol there are some mods that make you into a sort of god 03:07 hohoho insta-breaking of blocks 03:07 hohoho then you have fly 03:07 hohoho and fast 03:07 hohoho and teleport 03:07 OldCoder well, god is also an old coder 03:07 OldCoder Indeed 03:07 OldCoder he wrote all that **** ages ago 03:07 OldCoder It is a patchwork 03:07 OldCoder Someday He will debug 03:07 OldCoder On that day 03:07 khonkhortisan not the same, the programmer is more god than the player 03:07 OldCoder We'll all need a hug 03:07 OldCoder lol 03:07 OldCoder heh 03:07 OldCoder so no armaggeddon 03:07 OldCoder just day of release stable 03:07 OldCoder Heh 03:07 OldCoder Just a fun bit 03:07 hohoho lol stable release 03:08 khonkhortisan nethack has god(s) programmed in 03:10 khonkhortisan when you die in a computer game, you come back at the same age, with full memory. That's neither reincarnation nor going to a better (or worse) place. 03:10 hohoho its similar to reincarnation 03:10 hohoho just instead of forgetting you remember 03:10 hohoho lol 03:10 khonkhortisan without being a baby and everything 03:10 sdzen hmmm I have a feeling I am jumping into a strange conversation I am seeing discussion of gods of some sort? Raphael who started it i cant scroll up high enough 03:11 khonkhortisan yep religious stuff 03:11 LandMineMT_ sdzen i did "_ 03:11 hohoho landminemt 03:11 hohoho from their arguments id claim troll 03:11 hohoho but its been fun 03:11 hohoho lol 03:12 khonkhortisan "omg!!! a was stung by a bee!!! i know this is gods punishment for not going to church on sunday" 03:12 OldCoder Better than most discussions of this time 03:12 khonkhortisan landmine has already been claimed as a troll 03:12 LandMineMT_ btw the bee part wasnt a lie....it did sting me 03:12 LandMineMT_ it was sitting on my cup filled wtih cola 03:13 khonkhortisan and someone tried to put dirt on my foot when I got stung by a wasp what's up with that? 03:13 LandMineMT_ so i turned to grab it 03:13 LandMineMT_ without looking at it 03:13 LandMineMT_ felt a little thing on the edge 03:13 LandMineMT_ grabbed it 03:13 LandMineMT_ and got stung 03:13 VanessaE I don't believe G*d actively punishes people in this life, and assuming there is an afterlife, I expect what happens there is more of a cleansing process than punishment for your actions in this life. 03:14 khonkhortisan blesses and curses are much easier to understand 03:14 hohoho I believe punishment is due to your own doing 03:14 VanessaE like all those nitwits that claim (as in the bee sting) that shit like a hurricane is some kind of punishment 03:14 khonkhortisan or luck / kudos 03:15 sdzen I believe that God must have been an alien and the reason it is much less active in our lives today i because it is off making a better race 03:15 khonkhortisan hurricanes could easily be either natural or punishment 03:15 hohoho bee sting as an example. bees generally don't stink without cause 03:15 hohoho you have to provoke them 03:15 LandMineMT_ i grabbed 03:15 khonkhortisan lol@sdzen 03:15 LandMineMT_ it 03:15 Doc22 umm thats a sink bug 03:15 Doc22 stink* 03:15 Doc22 lol 03:15 VanessaE well if you burn them, they'll stink probably 03:15 MiJyn yeah, usually _don't_ stink 03:15 Doc22 lol 03:15 MiJyn *they 03:15 Doc22 you are thinking of stink beetle 03:15 khonkhortisan I don't believe in aliens. I'm a selfish race. 03:16 Doc22 well I live in roswell nm lol 03:16 sdzen care to describe the stink beetle? it may have been endangered 03:16 hohoho afk time for some minetest 03:16 Doc22 lol 03:16 LandMineMT_ there are many galaxys in the universe 03:16 LandMineMT_ each has its own suns and planets 03:16 khonkhortisan it has lines going between the front and back I think 03:16 Doc22 to say that we are the only beings is arrogent 03:16 LandMineMT_ pretty sure one of those has to have the perfect condicions for live to exist 03:16 Doc22 yes 03:16 sdzen and we are the one 03:17 sdzen XD 03:17 Doc22 just not in our solar system 03:17 khonkhortisan then why haven't we heard their tv/radio/cell/nuclear signals? 03:17 Doc22 we only know of one solar system 03:17 LandMineMT_ Doc22 exactly 03:17 khonkhortisan um, there's only one solar system because there's only one Sol. 03:17 khonkhortisan that's the only reason 03:17 LandMineMT_ khon do you go to school? 03:17 khonkhortisan yep 03:17 Doc22 the reason there isnt (known) life in any of the other planets is because the right spot from the sun 03:17 Doc22 is taken 03:18 sdzen with the vast expanse of the universe even if we ever heard of these organisms they would be long dead by the time we heard it 03:18 khonkhortisan no, there's probably enough sun-like systems out there 03:18 VanessaE Doc22: that and we don't have the technology to detect life yet - just the aftereffects of it--maybe. 03:18 khonkhortisan I think sdzen's reason is better than Doc22's 03:18 sdzen and most of those very very few life bearing planets will only support very basic life 03:18 hohoho statistically there are millions of "alien races" with a few capable of traversing the universe 03:18 Doc22 yeah 03:18 hohoho thing is which would even want to visit here? 03:18 hohoho lol 03:19 Doc22 there is not proof of life on planets 03:19 sdzen most likely unicellular organisms 03:19 Doc22 but there isnt proof agains tit 03:19 Doc22 either 03:19 hohoho anyway time for minetest, have stuff to build 03:19 VanessaE Doc22: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. 03:19 hohoho ta ta 03:19 hohoho been nice chatting 03:19 Doc22 exactly my point 03:20 khonkhortisan how likely is it that we created life on the moon? 03:20 khonkhortisan do you really trust the cleaning products nasa uses? 03:20 sdzen there is traces of organic matter and water has been found on mercury 03:20 VanessaE I believe as sdzen does, that there are far too many stars in the universe (or even the galaxy) to believe with any rationality that we are the only intelligent species in existence, let alone the only life, period (intelligent or not) 03:20 Doc22 I agree strongly 03:21 Doc22 the only reason that people "know" that there arent aliens is ignorance 03:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: unless the life you refer to can survive in 250°C temperatures with no air and no water.... I doubt that's a problem for the moon. 03:21 LandMineMT_ finally something smart comes out of HER mouth 03:21 khonkhortisan the real argument is the religious one, whether God made one life-filled planet, or all life evolved 03:21 sdzen yes! the conversation has turned from religion to the universe! 03:21 VanessaE now mars? that's a different matter. 03:21 LandMineMT_ yup and i started them BOTH hahha 03:22 khonkhortisan so you did. 03:22 VanessaE Doc22: they believe G*d created this and *only* this planet, therefore there can be no other planets with life. QED. 03:22 khonkhortisan I think God created evolution. 03:22 Doc22 yes 03:22 VanessaE khonkhortisan: +1 03:22 sdzen +1 03:22 khonkhortisan What religion is it that has to say G*d instead of God or god? 03:22 LandMineMT_ hence god existe 03:23 Doc22 I don't know about evolution 03:23 LandMineMT_ i rest my case 03:23 Doc22 my arguement for evolution is this: 03:23 Doc22 where are the fossils for the t-rex/next evolution hybrid 03:23 OldCoder khonkhortisan, I believe more than one does not mention the Name 03:23 Doc22 surely a (next evolution) doesnt just pop out of a t rex because of chance 03:23 VanessaE Doc22: they died out before that could happen. the extinction event 65Mya. 03:24 Doc22 yeah 03:24 Doc22 what I mean 03:24 VanessaE that big asteroid did a lot more than just leave a hole in the Yucatan peninsula. 03:24 Doc22 is where are the fossils between two evolutions 03:24 Doc22 humans 03:24 VanessaE you mean from dinos to mammals? 03:24 sdzen in my church the main arguement against evolution is that god punishes gay marriage with hurricanes and that evolution is a theory in itself. 03:24 Doc22 they have them 03:24 VanessaE there wasn't one 03:24 Doc22 but not for the dinosaurs 03:24 VanessaE totally different branch of life. 03:24 sdzen which one is plausible? 03:24 Doc22 I don't believe in evolution 03:25 Doc22 but I dont believe against is 03:25 Doc22 it 03:25 Doc22 I don't know which to believe in 03:25 khonkhortisan evolution is a theory, but creationism doesn't automatically mean evolution can't be true 03:25 sdzen I dont believe anything because there is no theory out there without flaws 03:25 VanessaE Doc22: scientists have experimented with evolution in labs in the form of bacteria and of mice - they've seen tiny changes happen. 03:25 VanessaE evolution exists. 03:25 khonkhortisan theory of gravity 03:25 Dogzilla131 god made everything 03:25 khonkhortisan god didn't make the cheeseburger you bought from mcdonalds 03:26 sdzen even the theory of gravity may be disputed in the future 03:26 khonkhortisan ? 03:26 VanessaE Dogzilla131: if he made all that we see, and makes all people, explain gays in sdzen's context. :-) 03:26 Dogzilla131 the cows, wheat seeds, he did 03:26 LandMineMT_ he diudnt make the cheese burger but he made the cow which is a living bein 03:26 LandMineMT_ and made wheet 03:26 Doc22 Perhaps it does 03:27 sdzen cow? wheat? minecraft! 03:27 Doc22 I am neutral on this one 03:27 khonkhortisan which had many sons and daughters until the one that got turned into beef 03:27 Doc22 not for or agains it 03:27 sdzen we are all living in minecraft! that explains it all! 03:27 khonkhortisan and the age-old chicken or the egg 03:27 LandMineMT_ sdzen be mature please 03:27 sdzen haha just trying to break the tension 03:27 khonkhortisan minetest doesn't have 45° angles :( 03:27 Dogzilla131 the human life are sinners 03:28 sdzen I am trying to digest what you just said dogzilla 03:28 sdzen could you rephrase im having a tad bit of trouble understanding 03:29 VanessaE sdzen: msg... 03:29 Dogzilla131 the human race are not pure good 03:29 khonkhortisan people are sinners and need to be saved OR people may either be good or bad and when they die their actions are weighed OR good and bad are relative and defined by culture and have no result when you die OR people are all good and just need to realize it... Have I skipped anything? 03:30 LandMineMT_ of course evolution exist...who is the idiot that says it doesnt? 03:30 Dogzilla131 because of Eve and Adam 03:30 sdzen you know i have had this conversation a million times with some very inhumane humans 03:30 khonkhortisan the creationist says evolution doesn't exist 03:30 LandMineMT_ black people is an example of evolution 03:30 khonkhortisan don't you mean white people? 03:30 sdzen I tend to notice that unless you shut the door in someones face the conversation wont end easily 03:30 LandMineMT_ no i mean white 03:30 khonkhortisan which came first? 03:31 LandMineMT_ i mean black 03:31 * OldCoder sighs 03:31 LandMineMT_ they had to adapt to the sun 03:31 khonkhortisan it ends when people are all talked out 03:31 LandMineMT_ the low humidity in the air 03:31 sdzen wow this is going on a tangent 03:31 OldCoder A big one 03:31 khonkhortisan all conversations do 03:31 LandMineMT_ hence evolution exist 03:31 sdzen there is only a very slight variation between blacks and whites 03:32 sdzen its almost negligible 03:32 khonkhortisan nose shape, cell color, chin, eye color, hair... not much difference 03:32 LandMineMT_ cell color? 03:33 LandMineMT_ hahahahaha 03:33 sdzen isnt it about 99% identical genes? 03:33 LandMineMT_ the skin changed to resist more the sun 03:33 khonkhortisan not just skin color, other stuff changes color too, right? 03:33 LandMineMT_ the nose is wider to breath more due to low humidity 03:33 LandMineMT_ and many more stuff 03:33 sdzen adaption and evolution 03:33 khonkhortisan ¿ humidity affects oxygen? 03:34 sdzen if you were to live at a higher altitude for a long amount of time you would adapt 03:34 VanessaE Dogzilla131: I don't believe people are bad because of something two people from a story did or didn't do. 03:34 khonkhortisan evolution/adaption only works if the weaker people die 03:34 VanessaE people are bad because they are taught to be. 03:34 VanessaE no other reason. 03:34 sdzen if your child was born at that altitude i would assume genetic teachings would come into effect 03:34 khonkhortisan I'd go even further, people can be bad without being taught to be 03:34 VanessaE (outside of pure mental illness of course) 03:34 sdzen everything is taught 03:34 Dogzilla131 the sin goes in the blood 03:35 sdzen which is why there is no room for true creativity 03:35 VanessaE Dogzilla131: bullshit. I reject that idea. 03:35 khonkhortisan evolution isn't that fast sdzen 03:35 sdzen no it isnt 03:35 sdzen im speaking of adaptation 03:35 sdzen not evolution 03:35 sdzen see how simalar yet different they are? 03:35 khonkhortisan then I'm not clear on the meaning of adaptation 03:35 VanessaE there's no such thing as sin. that is yet another creation of mankind made to justify trying to control others' actions, all in the name of G*d. 03:36 Dogzilla131 ok VanessaE, but thats what i believe 03:36 VanessaE Dogzilla131: explore the fabric of reality a while and you won't believe that anymore. 03:36 khonkhortisan there's no such thing as religion, it's only man's creation to get people that don't believe in sin to believe in god :P 03:36 VanessaE khonkhortisan: interesting take on it :-) 03:36 sdzen You cant believe anything anymore.... 03:36 LandMineMT_ VanessaE stop tryin got impose your reality on people thats not cool 03:37 Dogzilla131 i know the both sides, but i still believe in beliefs 03:37 sdzen she is not imposing anything 03:37 khonkhortisan LandMineMT_, aren't we all doing that? 03:37 LandMineMT_ nope 03:37 sdzen nobody is 03:37 LandMineMT_ we are jut giving ou r points of view 03:37 LandMineMT_ VanessaE on the other hand wants you to beleive what she does 03:38 LandMineMT_ by calling you stupid 03:38 sdzen I could just start preaching to you all right now... about a god named paul. 03:39 sdzen whether you actually pay attention or not would be your decision though 03:39 Dogzilla131 I dont care what anybody says about the subject, i will always believe in beliefs. 03:39 LandMineMT_ paul? thats a queer name 03:39 khonkhortisan Dogzilla131, are you talking about atheism? 03:39 khonkhortisan mark is still gone It hink 03:39 khonkhortisan *I think 03:40 OldCoder Yes 03:40 khonkhortisan we're all smart enough to stay away from cults, right? 03:40 Dogzilla131 no, in my beliefs, people have the right to believe in anything they want to believe 03:40 VanessaE Dogzilla131: G*d told us to think, also. to evaluate the world around us. question it. learn everything you can, even if it up-ends something you already believe. 03:41 sdzen hmmm what do you say to the kkk? khonk? 03:41 khonkhortisan I dunno, should I say something to them? By today's standard they seem bad - and aren't they an american creation? 03:42 sdzen I dont remember 03:43 VanessaE the kkk is a hateful organization originally bent on the idea of wiping out everyone except straight white christian men and women 03:43 sdzen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwyE2gT5VQ&hd=1 03:43 khonkhortisan if your religion says that people can believe whatever they want, what defines your religion? That whatever someone believes would come true? The gods would get claustrophobic. Or that no one knows? Then how can you believe? 03:43 moltenbot sdzens link: Carsickness - "Bill Wilkinson" - YouTube 03:43 VanessaE today, I don't know if they buy into that ideal as much as they used to 03:44 VanessaE khonkhortisan: let me put that supposition this way: Abe and I believe all paths to G*d are valid as long as they don't result in hurting someone else or violating the basic belief in G*d of course. 03:45 VanessaE actually, even a belief in G*d isn't mandatoru. 03:45 VanessaE mandatory* 03:45 VanessaE as it is written, (paraphrasing), G*d would rather have us stop believing in Him than to start hurting each other for BS reasons. 03:46 sdzen then how do you explain most of history? 03:46 sdzen i believe that the collective gods may frown on you for thinking they dont take joy in watching us fight to the death pointlessly 03:46 VanessaE sdzen: people hurting each other for BS reasons and then using G*d or some derivative thereof to justify it. 03:47 sdzen and this is new? 03:47 sdzen it isnt 03:47 VanessaE nope, it ain't new. 03:47 khonkhortisan So two people have two different religions, that have two different thresholds that decide between whether they go to heaven or hell. They both live their lives the same way. The one person's religion says they go to hell, the other person's says they go to heaven. Do they go to the same place if they lived the same way? 03:47 VanessaE "As long as there has been one true G*d, there has been killing in his name." 03:47 VanessaE which of course does not justify it. 03:47 khonkhortisan Where's that quote from? 03:47 sdzen even before the one true god 03:48 sdzen theres has been killing in the names of the various deities 03:48 VanessaE khonkhortisan: DaVinci Code. 03:48 khonkhortisan oh. Haven't seen it 03:48 VanessaE (the movie, spoken by the character Lee Teabing) 03:48 sdzen isnt it a book? 03:48 VanessaE sdzen: both a movie and a book. 03:48 sdzen ahh yes 03:50 khonkhortisan I'm sure religions have conflicts between them that can't be resolved. One may be works-based, the other faith-based. If you follow one, you fail at the other. 03:53 khonkhortisan All talked out? 03:53 VanessaE khonkhortisan: pretty much, which is why we say that as long as your path with G*d doesn't lead to another person's harm, you've done right by G*d and can expect to avoid whatever kind of punishment or spiritual cleansing that is coming. 03:53 khonkhortisan guess not 03:54 * VanessaE <-- getting slow lately. 03:55 khonkhortisan Does that include being an athiest and a "good person"? 03:55 Doc22 umm 03:55 Doc22 try going to #religion 03:55 sdzen depends on your worldview dude 03:55 Doc22 you guys could write a book 03:55 khonkhortisan I'd never get back on topic if I went there 03:55 Doc22 lol 03:56 sdzen we dont want to be like cornernote here so we should probably slow down 03:56 Doc22 is cornernote gone from the community 03:56 khonkhortisan so I've heard, yes. 03:56 sdzen that and the room is spinning on my end 03:56 Doc22 forever? 03:56 LandMineMT_ cornernote posted images 03:56 Doc22 of what 03:56 LandMineMT_ dead cows 03:56 LandMineMT_ deastality 03:56 LandMineMT_ etc 03:56 Doc22 O_D 03:56 Doc22 seriously 03:57 Doc22 the moderators would ban someone for posting a picture of dead cows 03:57 Doc22 he was a huge contributer to the community 03:57 khonkhortisan not on facebook! 03:57 Doc22 yeah i know 03:57 sdzen its moreso his very large speeches that never seemed to stop on the subject 03:57 Doc22 on the forum 03:57 Doc22 he made some awesome mods 03:57 Doc22 and he just got thrown out of the community 03:58 OldCoder No 03:58 OldCoder He chose to go 03:58 OldCoder He and I still chat a bit 03:58 Doc22 ok 03:58 OldCoder He is aware that he overreacted 03:58 Doc22 yeah 03:58 Doc22 I miss him 03:58 sdzen think of the children 03:58 Doc22 in the community 03:59 Doc22 Oldcoder btw I finished my song 03:59 khonkhortisan (notices the topic getting closer to being "on") 04:00 sdzen so.... anyone working on some important things that have yet to be released? 04:00 OldCoder Doc22, k 04:00 OldCoder sdzen, a song 04:00 OldCoder Doc22, Let's hear it 04:00 Doc22 umm, ok 04:00 Doc22 first I wish to state licence 04:00 OldCoder CC? 04:01 sdzen gpl? 04:01 LandMineMT_ ITS TIME FOR A RAP BATTLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04:01 Doc22 Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution Derived Works, No commercial 04:01 LandMineMT_ DOC22 VS LANDMINE!!! 04:01 OldCoder CC BY SA NC 04:01 Doc22 its not rap 04:01 LandMineMT_ LAME 04:01 OldCoder It is a game tunme 04:01 OldCoder It is a game tune 04:01 Doc22 ok 04:01 OldCoder All the Same 04:01 Doc22 yeah 04:01 OldCoder It is his tune let us hear it 04:01 Doc22 tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity.wav\ 04:01 Doc22 oops 04:01 Doc22 tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity.wav 04:02 Doc22 grr 04:02 Doc22 http://tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity.wav 04:02 Doc22 there 04:02 Doc22 lol 04:02 Doc22 http://tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/continuity_loop.wav 04:02 Doc22 there is looping version 04:02 Doc22 first one fades out 04:02 Doc22 second one loops 04:02 sdzen my ears! (I left my volume on high) 04:03 sdzen very nice 04:03 OldCoder Downloading 04:04 LandMineMT_ WELL PEEPS im gonna sleep....got school tomorow 04:04 Doc22 thanks sdzen 04:04 OldCoder Doc22, you can convert this to Flac 04:04 Doc22 Flac? 04:04 OldCoder LandMineMT_, good night 04:04 LandMineMT_ nice thing we had going on 04:05 Doc22 lol 04:05 OldCoder Doc22, Lossless format 04:05 OldCoder Smaller 04:05 Doc22 hmm 04:05 OldCoder As good as WAV 04:05 OldCoder Can convert back 04:05 Doc22 I really dont care about size lol 04:05 OldCoder It is also safer from corruption 04:05 Doc22 so basically a .zip format, but for .wav? 04:05 OldCoder But all right 04:05 OldCoder Yes 04:05 Doc22 yeah maybe I should 04:05 Doc22 but not right now 04:05 Doc22 haha 04:05 OldCoder Sure 04:24 Doc22 OldCoder, what type of music would the kind I made be? 04:25 Doc22 I don't know the word for it 04:34 VanessaE you know what minetest needs? an Lua profiler... how much time is being spent in this or that or the other mod executing the code therein. 04:35 Doc22 yeah that would be useful for performance improvement 04:35 Doc22 simple thing like 04:35 Doc22 start = system.get_time() 04:36 Doc22 lua_script.run(); 04:37 Doc22 System.print("lua script "+lua_script.name()+" took "+System.get_time-start) 04:37 Doc22 general idea 04:37 Doc22 get time 04:37 Doc22 run script 04:37 Doc22 print difference 04:41 Doc22 you could also make something that writes the data to a file 04:41 Doc22 or a profiler gui 04:46 Doc22 find out which of those pesky mods are using up all your ram 05:14 OldCoder Doc22, Not techno 05:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel would know 05:15 OldCoder It's MOD style 05:15 OldCoder Tracker 05:15 OldCoder Sort of 05:15 bulletrulz i 05:15 bulletrulz hi 05:15 bulletrulz hi 05:15 bulletrulz hi 05:15 bulletrulz hi 05:15 bulletrulz hi 05:15 VanessaE hi. 05:15 bulletrulz wtf i only sent that once 05:15 bulletrulz wtf i only sent that once 05:15 bulletrulz wtf i only sent that once 05:15 bulletrulz wtf i only sent that once 05:15 bulletrulz wtf i only sent that once 05:16 bulletrulz that too 05:16 bulletrulz that too 05:16 bulletrulz that too 05:16 bulletrulz that too 05:16 VanessaE you sent it 5 times 05:16 VanessaE sign out and restart your client 05:16 bulletrulz Wtf theres something wrong with xchat 05:16 bulletrulz Wtf theres something wrong with xchat 05:16 bulletrulz Wtf theres something wrong with xchat 05:16 bulletrulz Wtf theres something wrong with xchat 05:16 bulletrulz Wtf theres something wrong with xchat 05:16 bulletrulz ok brb 05:16 bulletrulz ok brb 05:16 bulletrulz ok brb 05:16 bulletrulz ok brb 05:16 bulletrulz ok brb 05:16 bulletrulz ok 05:16 bulletrulz fixed! :D 05:17 VanessaE talk about a weird bug. 05:18 sokomine i'm wondering: is there a way to see the whole scenery when looking down from high above? e.g. the eiffel tower on redcrabs server. i usually manage only a tiny bit of the landscape...which then looks strange 05:40 VanessaE hey neko 05:40 VanessaE sokomine: hit 'r' 05:41 VanessaE it'll show you whatever you've visited since sign-on 05:41 VanessaE it doesn't get rid of the clouds though 05:41 bulletrulz VanessaE, ikr 05:43 sokomine hm...whatever i've visited...may take a long time to visit everything. and i got the impression that something got forgotten... 06:07 VanessaE ok, time for bed 06:08 VanessaE sokomine: everything you visited plus the surrounding map, so you'll see wide 2- or 3-mapblock stripes tracing your path basically 06:08 VanessaE night all/. 07:13 markveidemanis hi 07:13 markveidemanis VanessaE 07:13 markveidemanis can you come on my server for some fireworks?:) 07:33 markveidemanis hello 07:33 markveidemanis Greetings 07:34 markveidemanis VanessaE 08:27 Aqua hi 08:30 OldCoder Hi back 08:31 Aqua can u give me a link to sfan5's windows 0.4.4 08:31 Aqua please 08:32 Aqua u there? 08:34 Aqua oldCoder 08:42 OldCoder Hi 11:24 * OldCoder is resting 11:24 OldCoder Hey Zeg9 11:27 Zeg9 Hello 11:27 Zeg9 brb 11:49 * Zeg9 has to go, bye 12:55 NekoGloop Meow. 13:37 cmacis Random noobish question. On the Debian (and related) builds, where are the folders you throw mods and stuff into? 13:37 NekoGloop Hiding. 13:38 cmacis You are, or they are? :) 13:38 NekoGloop They are. 13:38 cmacis Fair enough. I'll build another copy into home to play with mods then. 13:39 cmacis It is version 0.X after all 13:39 NekoGloop Translated into noob-speak: Go lookz for it!1!1!one! 13:56 iqual camacis: in ~/.minetest 13:56 iqual is anybody interested in an script to update installed mods? 14:03 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:08 cmacis hello 14:08 cmacis cheers iqual 14:09 iqual hi PilzAdam 14:09 iqual any recommendations for a server? 14:10 iqual i want to have some spare space to build 14:17 PilzAdam oh nice, we have a new minetest.net design 14:21 PilzAdam !tw Minetest-c55 14:21 Minetest-tan PilzAdam: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id 14:21 PilzAdam !tw Minetest_c55 14:21 Minetest-tan Can't wait for #Minetest 0.4 stable to come out :D (@Minetest_c55) 14:38 neko259 VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55143#p55143 Don't you know what can cause it? It's like the ABM changes are counted from the server install, not previous run. 14:38 neko259 And hello :D 14:38 iqual bb 15:22 redcrab Yeah ! redcrab.suret.net is up to date , 0.4.4 dev :D 15:30 NekoGloop redcrab: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbHZ6uWeR3U 15:44 PilzAdam Hi moltenbot 15:47 iqualfragile … ich hab nicht dran gedacht dass jemand hi auch Hi schreiben könnte… 15:48 NekoGloop ENGLISH MOTHERF*CKER. DO YOU SPEAK IT?! 15:49 iqualfragile yes i do, so i do understad that you just said something to me wich would not be concidered as "fine" 15:49 NekoGloop Heh. 15:49 iqualfragile OldCoder: would you please stop people from swearing in here? 15:49 iqualfragile besides: the german sentence was @ PilzAdam who is from germany so it was intentional 15:51 bulletrulz hello :D 15:53 moltenbot welcome master 15:56 Jordach does anyone here got a imap server i can borrow? 15:59 thexyz imap.gmail.com 16:15 moltenbot welcome master 16:26 Doc22_ Oldcoder 16:26 Doc22_ my song could be added to the server 16:26 Doc22_ technic has a mechanism for the music box 16:26 Doc22_ to load the songs 16:27 Doc22_ then there would be a song for the jukebox 16:27 Doc22_ I tested it in singleplayer and it works 16:28 Doc22_ hey sfan 16:31 Doc22_ OldCoder? you there? 16:31 PilzAdam I have done a hacked client where you can fly faster than everyone else without the fly priv 16:31 Doc22_ lol 16:32 Doc22_ fun to hack when there is nothing else to do lol 16:32 Doc22_ just dont make it public lol 16:32 PilzAdam I wont 16:32 Doc22_ good 16:33 Doc22_ haha 16:33 Doc22_ too many script kiddies out there 16:36 markveidemanis HI 16:37 PilzAdam Hello 16:37 markveidemanis wanna come on my server? 16:37 markveidemanis to play with mesecons 16:37 markveidemanis :) 16:38 PilzAdam sure; IP? 16:38 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30000 16:40 PilzAdam cant connect 16:40 PilzAdam an ping times out 16:40 PilzAdam *and 16:47 markveidemanis so it noew work?? 16:47 markveidemanis #not 16:48 PilzAdam yep, doesnt work 16:49 thexyz !up 213.123.65.242 16:49 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 DOWN 16:49 markveidemanis i just removed mesecons:( try onw 16:51 Calinou !up 127.0.0.1 16:51 moltenbot Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000 UP 16:51 Calinou heh 16:51 Calinou !up google.com:80 16:51 moltenbot Minetest server google.com:80:30000 DOWN 16:51 Calinou lol 16:51 Calinou custom port fail 16:52 PilzAdam !up google.com 80 16:52 moltenbot Minetest server google.com:80 DOWN 16:52 Calinou !up facebook.com 16:52 moltenbot Minetest server facebook.com:30000 DOWN 16:52 Calinou facebook hosts no MT server, that sucks! 16:54 markveidemanis i re-forwarded port try now 16:54 PilzAdam !up 213.123.65.242 16:54 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 DOWN 16:55 PilzAdam have you checked your IP? 16:55 thexyz !up minetest.ru 16:55 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP 16:55 markveidemanis yes it was working yesterday 16:55 PilzAdam IPs change sometimes 16:56 markveidemanis LOL... 16:56 markveidemanis 86.172.129.21:30000 16:56 markveidemanis ignorance 16:56 PilzAdam !up 86.172.129.2 16:56 moltenbot Minetest server 86.172.129.2:30000 DOWN 16:56 PilzAdam !up 86.172.129.21 16:56 moltenbot Minetest server 86.172.129.21:30000 UP 16:57 markveidemanis what does: on_newplayer mean- in server console 16:57 PilzAdam here we go 16:57 markveidemanis it works perfectly!!] 16:58 bulletrulz !up c55.me:30000 16:59 bulletrulz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULx2qcsioY No Face 16:59 Doc22_ Oldcoder are you there 17:10 Doc22_ hello 17:11 moltenbot welcome master 17:11 markveidemanis server crashed, fixed now 17:14 VanessaE hi all. 17:14 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 17:15 thexyz iqualfragile: can you stop your bot from saying "welcome master" every time you join #minetest? 17:15 iqualfragile shure 17:15 VanessaE thexyz: make it say "welcome fuckers" instead ;) 17:15 VanessaE since he has such a problem with cursing :D 17:17 VanessaE hey PilzAdam. 17:18 bulletrulz Give Me 20 dollars 17:18 bulletrulz fuck 17:19 Calinou /giveme money:20_dollars 17:19 Calinou /giveme money:dollar 20 17:19 Calinou better 17:19 bulletrulz ok slendy wont attack u 17:19 bulletrulz VanessaE, is anyone playning on the server"? 17:20 VanessaE not at present. PilzAdam was on earlier (how was it btw?) 17:20 iqualfragile !re 17:20 bulletrulz !tw bulletrulz 17:20 Minetest-tan website updated for today #work http://bulletrulz.webs.com (@bulletrulz) 17:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Bulletrulx website 17:20 bulletrulz LOL 17:23 bulletrulz minetest.net 17:23 bulletrulz http://www.minetest.net 17:24 bulletrulz Fucking BOT1\ 17:24 bulletrulz Who wants to play with me on minetest\ 17:24 VanessaE zzz 17:25 bulletrulz http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sex 17:25 bulletrulz LOL!! XXD 17:26 Fabiter Hello! :D 17:27 bulletrulz welcome Fabiter 17:27 bulletrulz !tw mijyn 17:27 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/mijyn?1354728443.46 (@mijyn) 17:27 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Mi J Kim (MiJyn) auf Twitter 17:27 bulletrulz !tw _mijyn_ 17:27 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/_mijyn_?1354728457.19 (@_mijyn_) 17:27 Fabiter Thank you bulletrulz! :) 17:27 bulletrulz !tw bulletrulz 17:27 Minetest-tan website updated for today #work http://bulletrulz.webs.com (@bulletrulz) 17:27 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Bulletrulx website 17:30 bulletrulz !tw slenderman 17:30 Minetest-tan @SLessard Safe Travels! (@slenderman) 17:30 bulletrulz !tw minetest_c55 17:30 Minetest-tan Can't wait for #Minetest 0.4 stable to come out :D (@minetest_c55) 17:31 bulletrulz !tw jordan4ibanez 17:31 Minetest-tan Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell http://arcticready.com/social/5172554-because-we-dont-care-about-tomorrow-wher (@jordan4ibanez) 17:31 thexyz bulletrulz: can you please stop flooding the bot? 17:31 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell Let's Go! 17:31 bulletrulz whyy!!!! thexyz nobody is talking 17:32 thexyz if you want to chat with her, /msg Minetest-tan 17:32 PilzAdam bulletrulz, PM the bot if you want to play 17:45 MiJyn @bulletrulz, it's __MiJyn__ lol 17:45 MiJyn !tw __MiJyn__ 17:45 Minetest-tan I'll have some fun with the "Shape" class... (@__MiJyn__) 17:45 MiJyn oh yeah, my abandoned game engine... 17:45 MiJyn it worked 17:45 MiJyn but slow :/ 17:49 thexyz have you reported this bug? 17:49 PilzAdam easy to fix: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/localplayer.cpp#L475 17:52 PilzAdam the movement of the client it relatively easy to hack 17:56 Zeg9 It's because on my server, the position isn't checked for "anticheat" 17:58 Calinou john_minetest: yeah but anticheat catches you 17:58 Calinou note: you can fly regardless of privileges, but if you want to fly at fast speed you need fast priv 17:58 Calinou :> 17:58 Calinou we need fly checks :P 17:59 PilzAdam if no collision is reported for 10 sec. kill the player 17:59 PilzAdam and if hes not moving down at high speed 18:01 thexyz i don't like this kind of heuristics 18:04 bulletrulz MiJyn, ho 18:09 * Jordach is having a shitty day 18:15 telek Jordach: When life gives you shit, make fertilizer :D 18:15 Jordach herh 18:15 Jordach heh 18:16 * Jordach is still pissed either way 18:16 telek Alternative, if you're a monkey: When life gives you shit, toss it on somebody else. 18:39 khonkhortisan ran 18:55 OldCoder Back 18:55 OldCoder Doc22, I am now 18:55 OldCoder Slept very late today. Yesterday was tiring. 19:05 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 19:07 OldCoder babyface1031, Hello! 19:41 mauvebic jordach 19:41 Jordach yo 19:42 mauvebic and heeee's gone lol 19:42 mauvebic you wanted to dl my map n mods? 19:44 neko259 Hi all. Does moreblocks stable version work with minetest 0.4.3? 19:45 MiJyn does anyone else have remobo or hamachi issues? 19:46 MiJyn I'm building a heavily modded server 19:47 Jordach you wanted to dl my map n mods? why ye 19:47 Jordach yes 19:47 Jordach my client spazzed 19:47 mauvebic theyre out :-) 19:47 mauvebic map is 100mb tho lol 19:47 MiJyn hi Jordach 19:49 MiJyn Can anyone help me with hamachi? 19:49 MiJyn I can't make anything work there 19:50 Jordach hm? 19:50 Jordach MiJyn - sudo apt-get haguachi 20:14 MiJyn hi 20:14 STHGOM hi 20:16 MiJyn how is everyone? 20:17 VanessaE meh. 20:18 STHGOM good! 20:19 MiJyn I learned something: Don't upgrade your kernel in archlinux unless you plan on rebooting straight away lol 20:21 STHGOM what happened? 20:23 PilzAdam !c 20*60 20:23 Minetest-tan 1200 20:24 OldCoder No bot battles today please 20:27 MiJyn @STHGOM, Hamachi stopped working lol 20:27 PilzAdam OldCoder, I realy wanted to calculate this; and open a calculator is slower than this 20:27 STHGOM ohh... 20:28 STHGOM whats that? 20:28 STHGOM lol 20:28 MiJyn STHGOM, a free VPN service so that any computers can access one another (helps for minetest servers) 20:28 STHGOM I don't know much about linux exept thats its awsome 20:28 MiJyn lol yeah 20:28 STHGOM ok 20:29 STHGOM thanks 20:29 Jordach i challenge you to dualboot pc-bsd with linux 20:29 MiJyn easy @Jordach 20:29 * STHGOM is sparky on minetest 20:29 MiJyn use GNU parted! 20:29 MiJyn or, (I humbly recommend) LParted! :P 20:43 MiJyn what's the nodename of shovel? 20:43 MiJyn default:shovel? 20:43 Jordach default:steel_shovel, default:stone_shovel, default:steel_shovel 20:46 MiJyn thanks! I decided to use pick_mese 20:47 STHGOM Hello! 21:01 yxkvast Hi i have a problem with installin minetest on ubuntu, i solved some problems now and the fail log is smaller now. (but still failing) :) 21:02 iqualfragile well, i guess nobody besides b.s. is able to dechipher the information you gave us 21:03 iqualfragile (specify your problem yxkvast ) 21:03 Jordach MiJyn - next time, use the default mod from minetest_game + grep 21:03 Jordach anyways, night all 21:03 Jordach OldCoder, VanessaE, have a nice day! 21:04 OldCoder c u 21:09 yxkvast i did send a PM to iqualfragile 21:11 iqualfragile !t yxkvast paste 21:11 moltenbot yxkvast: Please use ZeroBin to post your logfiles, do not paste them into IRC. 21:11 yxkvast i am downloading jockey kde and kernel mods 21:12 moltenbot hitchcock.freenode.nets link: freenode: frequently-asked questions 21:12 yxkvast moltenbot: this log is quite short, but okay ^^ 21:12 iqualfragile yup, you just need to install drivers 21:14 Octupus hello 21:14 yxkvast maybe this link will work.. 21:14 yxkvast 'http://pastebin.com/VTQwBMfV 21:14 moltenbot yxkvasts link: minetest - Pastebin.com 21:15 iqualfragile hi Octupus 21:16 babyface1031 hi Octupus 21:16 Octupus hi 21:21 MiJyn where is cave generation? 21:21 MiJyn how do I turn it off? 21:25 telek MiJyn: There's no 'option' to turn it off. You'd either have to find, or make a mod to override the cave creation behavior. 21:25 MiJyn telek, no, in the source code 21:25 MiJyn I did cave_amount = 0.0 21:25 MiJyn hoping it works 21:26 telek MiJyn: Oh. Is that stuff still handled in C/C++? I assumed it was all lua by now. 21:26 MiJyn oh 21:26 MiJyn idk 21:30 telek MiJyn: Let me know if that cave_amount did it. Might be worth a patch for config file options for some of those things. 21:31 MiJyn somewhat 21:33 telek MiJyn: You know you'd have to either start with a fresh world, or a mod that would reset or empty previously generated blocks to see a difference in currently explored areas, right? 21:34 MiJyn telek, yes, I know 21:34 MiJyn I fixed it 21:34 telek What'd it turn out to be? 21:34 MiJyn no caves! 21:35 telek Oh you mean you DID successfully manage to get them to not spawn, cool :) 21:35 MiJyn yes! 21:35 MiJyn cave_amount = 0.0 21:35 MiJyn caves_count = 0.0 21:35 MiJyn bruises_count = 0 21:35 MiJyn wait, caves_count = 0 21:35 MiJyn there 21:36 telek What's bruises_count? 21:36 MiJyn no idea 21:36 sokomine strange effects on redcrabs server: people saw me with things sticking in my playerchar i didn't even have in my inv 21:36 telek That like fissures/crevices in the ground surface? 21:36 sokomine relogin helped 21:36 MiJyn but it affects caves 21:37 * telek nods. 21:37 sokomine oh? caves can be deactivated? that sounds good! 21:37 MiJyn yep 21:38 sokomine great! 21:46 * sokomine jumps into a cart and bugs around happily :) 21:46 yxkvast i do not know what driver i need to make minetest to work sufficiently. 21:47 sokomine people keep asking for a build for windows now that redcrab switched to 0.4.4 maybe it would be a good idea to post a link in the topic? i don't have win 21:51 OldCoder Folks I'll be offline to take my laptop for repairs. Back later. Nice to see everybody. 21:53 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55209 I posted about a feature suggestion I had, which I think would be really interesting to consider (the post is a bit larger). In short, I'm thinking of a feature to allow realtime scripting from the minetest client while the server is running, so any player can create custom items on servers with this feature enabled (similar to Second Life). 21:53 moltenbot Taokis link: Realtime scripting with uploaded media (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 21:58 bulletrulz !tw __mijyn__ 21:58 Minetest-tan I'll have some fun with the "Shape" class... (@__mijyn__) 22:00 bulletrulz !tw bulletrulz 22:00 Minetest-tan @CMPunk should do the original thing in vacant the title (@bulletrulz) 22:00 bulletrulz lol 22:00 bulletrulz !tw notch 22:00 Minetest-tan I enjoy learning things. =D (@notch) 22:00 bulletrulz !tw lol 22:00 Minetest-tan BRITNEY fans, what are your thoughts on Tom from The Wanted? (@lol) 22:02 felix20 Taoki, personally I wouldn't want that enabled, but it would certainly be interesting 22:02 Taoki felix20: Yes, it surely wouldn't be a default, but some servers could have it 22:09 bulletrulz !tw mtv 22:09 Minetest-tan #Selenators! #Directioners! #Beliebers! #Navi! #Beystans and more! We're crowning the Last Fans Standing: http://on.fb.me/YPnCYZ (@mtv) 22:09 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Update Your Browser | Facebook 22:09 bulletrulz !tw twitter 22:09 Minetest-tan "@urbandictionary grows daily followers 6.5x by implementing the Follow Button" - https://dev.twitter.com/blog/urbandictionary-account-grows-daily-followers-65x-implementing-follow-button ^JC (@twitter) 22:09 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: The @urbandictionary account grows daily followers 6.5x by implementing the Follow Button | Twitter Developers 22:09 bulletrulz :D 22:24 Octupus hi 22:27 STHGOM hi 22:32 Octupus hi Dogzilal131 22:32 Dogzilla131 hi octu 22:39 STHGOM if anyone wants me say STHGOM 22:46 MiJyn hey guys 22:46 MiJyn I quickly hacked a mod 22:47 MiJyn trying to rewrite the nether mod 22:47 MiJyn as you can see, lava generation is NOT amazing lol 22:47 MiJyn but basic rooms (based on c55's old dungeon code) is done 22:47 MiJyn !!! 22:47 MiJyn http://imgur.com/qhdhm,pXQDv 22:47 moltenbot MiJyns link: imgur: the simple image sharer 22:48 MiJyn yeah 22:48 MiJyn you are correct lol 22:48 bulletrulz lol 22:49 MiJyn as you can see, it was minorly edited so that I could survive lol 22:49 MiJyn the scene 22:49 MiJyn second pic 22:49 bulletrulz yeah i see 22:49 bulletrulz so 22:51 MiJyn it's generated! 22:51 MiJyn this is like the swimming pool for the nether fortress 22:51 MiJyn I'm going to add more rooms soon 22:51 MiJyn any suggestions? 22:53 NekoGloop minetest-tan? lol? 22:56 MiJyn ? 22:57 NekoGloop -tan == -chan == someone the person finds endearing. 22:57 MiJyn lol 22:57 MiJyn did you see the screenshots? 22:57 MiJyn of nether 0.2? 22:57 MiJyn (WIP) 22:58 NekoGloop nope. 22:58 MiJyn http://imgur.com/qhdhm,pXQDv 22:58 moltenbot MiJyns link: imgur: the simple image sharer 22:59 STHGOM bye! 23:34 Doc22 hey octupus 23:34 Octupus hi Doc22 23:42 * VanessaE is back. yay. 23:42 Doc22 hey vanessae 23:42 VanessaE hey