Time |
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00:02 |
VanessaE |
there MUCh better |
00:02 |
VanessaE |
got the laptop running Ubuntu Precise again, this time with the latest Gallium3d driver = it can run minetest at 18-25 fps. :-) |
00:05 |
telek |
VanessaE: Cool :) |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
I have finally been freed of the shackles of the fglrx blob and old mesa radeon driver, at least on the laptop :-) |
00:10 |
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00:17 |
telek |
VanessaE: Congrats :) |
00:17 |
VanessaE |
thanks :-) |
00:17 |
telek |
I can't without losing OpenCL support :( |
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00:18 |
VanessaE |
I think I'll leave the PC with the proprietary blob for now, still a few features missing from the r600g driver that might be of importance. |
00:18 |
telek |
On the bonus side however I can run both minetest and a bitcoin mining app simultaneously :D |
00:18 |
Doc22 |
hey guys |
00:18 |
VanessaE |
hi Doc22 |
00:18 |
Doc22 |
:) |
00:18 |
Doc22 |
Hey vanessae |
00:19 |
telek |
What's up Doc(22)? |
00:19 |
Doc22 |
not much |
00:19 |
VanessaE |
*groan* |
00:19 |
Doc22 |
lol |
00:19 |
* VanessaE |
hands telek a carrot |
00:19 |
Doc22 |
:D |
00:20 |
telek |
Carrots are good for your eyes, so you won't see me complaining :D *munch munch* |
00:20 |
VanessaE |
lol |
00:20 |
Bugs_Bunny |
Eahhh, what's up doc? (munches carrot) |
00:20 |
telek |
Cute :D |
00:20 |
Bugs_Bunny |
D: |
00:20 |
Bugs_Bunny |
wait a sec... |
00:21 |
Bugs_Bunny |
ruskie you were on #java on quakenet right |
00:21 |
Doc22 |
i remember you |
00:22 |
Doc22 |
vanessae i remember you told me to turn off alias when i said the furninute was messing up |
00:22 |
Doc22 |
how do I do thi |
00:22 |
Doc22 |
this |
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00:23 |
VanessaE |
texture atlas you mean |
00:23 |
Doc22 |
yes |
00:23 |
Doc22 |
hey NekoGloop |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
enable_texture_atlas = false |
00:23 |
Doc22 |
oh ok |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
in your minetest.conf |
00:23 |
Doc22 |
in the cfg file |
00:23 |
Doc22 |
onf* |
00:23 |
Doc22 |
conf** |
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00:28 |
Octupus |
Hola |
00:29 |
Doc22 |
heya |
00:29 |
Doc22 |
octupus come on the server |
00:29 |
Octupus |
Kay |
00:29 |
Doc22 |
and btw YOU BROKE YOUR PROMISE X( |
00:29 |
Doc22 |
lol |
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00:30 |
Octupus |
What promise? |
00:30 |
Octupus |
about the mods privilages |
00:31 |
telek |
Doc22: OMG ruskie is probably that guy from the Black Ops 2 ad with the tablet and the swarm of drones :D |
00:32 |
Octupus |
maybe im the guy from bo2 |
00:32 |
VanessaE |
how fitting - you ask about the texture atlas, I have to go disable it on the laptop so that my 64px HDX pack looks right :-) |
00:32 |
telek |
VanessaE: Me? |
00:33 |
VanessaE |
doc |
00:33 |
telek |
VanessaE: Because yeah the texture atlas seems buggy too. |
00:33 |
Octupus |
Dammit i spilt my ice tea :( |
00:37 |
* VanessaE |
hands Octupus another glass of tea |
00:37 |
Octupus |
:) |
00:37 |
Octupus |
gracias |
00:38 |
telek |
Wow that bug in irrlicht regarding the joints or keyframing or whatever kinda sucks. |
00:39 |
telek |
Surprised it doesn't warrant a final minor-version fix for the 1.7 series. |
00:43 |
VanessaE |
good g*d. my flowers mod sucks CPU :( |
00:43 |
VanessaE |
my little laptop can't handle it |
00:43 |
OldCoder |
telek, is there a patch? |
00:44 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Get a better computer. |
00:44 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: just testing my old laptop, my PC handles it better |
00:44 |
VanessaE |
(I need to rewrite the mod. It shouldn't be so heavy) |
00:45 |
NekoGloop |
It should have a mapgen option. |
00:45 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
00:53 |
telek |
OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52146#p52146 Second link MirceaKitsune has listed at the bottom of the page. |
00:54 |
telek |
It's not diffed though, just a manual search and replace. |
00:54 |
telek |
Other than a bit of a performance hit it supposedly does exactly what it should though (and honestly better slow and conforming than fast and broken.) |
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01:45 |
telek |
Before I forget: http://sproxel.blogspot.com/ |
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02:09 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
R |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
telek ty |
02:09 |
telek |
Welcome OC. |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
Thanks again |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
Which link? |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
Not clear |
02:10 |
telek |
Second one, bottom of the page. |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
I am not clear |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
Can you copy the link? |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
I don't see it |
02:11 |
telek |
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=47041 |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
R |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
telek, Do you suppose somebody will release a formal patch? |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
ty again |
02:18 |
telek |
Nope. Sounds like it might make it into a release in the future, maybe. |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
02:19 |
OldCoder |
Is there enough here for me to figure out a patch? |
02:19 |
OldCoder |
Checking |
02:20 |
telek |
If you have to ask, then probably not :D |
02:21 |
telek |
But yes it's full code snippets. So if you can find the code you need to replace it should just be a simple swap. |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
telek, I am pretty good at patches but noticed it may be partial |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
Will need to look closer |
02:22 |
telek |
Okay. Well I'm off for the night, so cya! |
02:24 |
OldCoder |
ttyl |
02:28 |
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02:46 |
marktraceur |
Updated transactor so it pulls things out of furnaces, was broken because InvRefs are (stupidly) 1-indexed |
02:47 |
marktraceur |
Will work on factories tomorrow or so, but for now, playing time.... |
03:07 |
Doc22 |
how do you make dyes |
03:07 |
Doc22 |
i have pigment |
03:08 |
Doc22 |
vanessae do you know |
03:08 |
Doc22 |
oh nvm someone on a server told me |
03:10 |
RealBadAngel |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=28399#p28399 |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
if you want to make dyes use grinder |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 coal dust -> 2 dye black |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 cactus -> 2 dye green |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 dry shrub -> 2 dye brown |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 flower geranium -> 2 dye blue |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 flower dandelion white -> 2 dye white |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 flower dandelion yellow -> 2 dye yellow |
03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
1 flower tulip -> 2 dye orange |
03:12 |
RealBadAngel |
1 flower rose -> 2 dye red |
03:12 |
RealBadAngel |
1 flower viola -> 2 dye violet |
03:12 |
marktraceur |
Wow, pastebin please. |
03:12 |
RealBadAngel |
too late ;) |
03:12 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry :) |
03:12 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: No, it's not, the pastebin sites are still up! In fact, maybe put that in a forum post so it's more permanent and searchable! |
03:13 |
RealBadAngel |
it is on the forums :P |
03:13 |
RealBadAngel |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2538 |
03:13 |
RealBadAngel |
check grinding recipes |
03:14 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Then link there! No need for pastebin, even. |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
night guys |
03:15 |
Doc22 |
gtg |
03:16 |
Doc22 |
and thanks rba |
03:48 |
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04:01 |
NakedFury |
I think I froze minetest.org 30000 |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
Checking |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
ty for mention |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Whoa |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
WTF |
04:09 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, *something* is odd |
04:09 |
OldCoder |
I am restarting all the worlds |
04:09 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, WTF happened? |
04:09 |
NakedFury |
I think I found the limit of worldedit |
04:09 |
OldCoder |
5.6 42.5 80:33.75 |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
You did indeed!!! |
04:10 |
NakedFury |
too big an area to edit |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
That 80 |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
is CPU time! |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
The 42.5 is memory! |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
You hosed my VPS! |
04:10 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
No more WorldEdit Whole World please |
04:10 |
NakedFury |
shows the game still has some problems then? |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
Oh yes |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
I never saw numbers like those before |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Still shutting down |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Give it a few minutes |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Should be fine then |
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04:26 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, 30000 is still flushing |
04:26 |
OldCoder |
You surely found the limits! :-) |
04:30 |
NakedFury |
I was editing a 177 length x 32 height x 6 wide area |
04:30 |
NakedFury |
over 60 times |
04:31 |
NakedFury |
so yes that blew worldedit |
04:31 |
NakedFury |
need to test it on single player too |
04:34 |
NakedFury |
decided to try an underground city starts at -1000 y |
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04:51 |
marktraceur |
Does anyone understand the get_craft_result( { type = 'fuel' } ) output? |
04:51 |
marktraceur |
It doesn't appear to work for me....I'm not sure why |
04:52 |
marktraceur |
minetest.get_craft_result( { method = 'fuel', width = 1, items = { tmpis } } ) <-- tmpis is an ItemStack I'm testing for fuelness |
04:52 |
marktraceur |
I test out.time ~= 0, but that never seems to be true |
04:53 |
NakedFury |
never used it before |
04:53 |
NakedFury |
is there more info on the api documents? |
04:53 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: It's documented there as returning out, decremented_input, and out has out.time ~= 0 if the craft was successful. |
04:54 |
marktraceur |
"output.time = number, if unsuccessful: 0" |
04:56 |
marktraceur |
Actually, maybe the issue is in my attempt at accessing minetest.registered_items |
04:57 |
marktraceur |
Aha! |
04:57 |
marktraceur |
It's not an iteratable list, it's a table |
04:57 |
NakedFury |
found the solution now? |
04:57 |
marktraceur |
Yup |
04:58 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: ipairs( minetest.registered_items ) will do nothing, silently fails |
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04:59 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I see you're back online |
05:00 |
NakedFury |
yes gonna do what I wanted manually |
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05:07 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, have fun |
05:16 |
marktraceur |
Well, the transactors are no longer buggy as all hell |
05:16 |
* marktraceur |
has a high standard for release :P |
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11:44 |
Calinou |
hi |
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12:21 |
Penguin |
my Nyan Mod crashed my computer and lost everything |
12:24 |
Penguin |
I don't know why |
12:25 |
jin_xi |
what do you mean 'lost everything' |
12:27 |
ruskie |
rm -rf / ? |
12:28 |
Penguin |
I had to wipe my computer |
12:31 |
Penguin |
:( |
12:32 |
Penguin |
can anyone make textures |
12:37 |
jin_xi |
? |
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14:28 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
14:28 |
babyface1031 |
hello |
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14:39 |
KikaRz |
Hiii : |
14:39 |
KikaRz |
:) |
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14:40 |
KikaRz |
Hi telek |
14:40 |
papillon81 |
VanessaE: hi. can you tell me where/how to find latex/rubber trees? |
14:40 |
KikaRz |
i guess shes off |
14:41 |
KikaRz |
maybe in high distances... |
14:41 |
KikaRz |
like 10000 |
14:41 |
KikaRz |
i just found snow trees |
14:41 |
KikaRz |
or something |
14:41 |
KikaRz |
at 20000 |
14:42 |
PilzAdam |
papillon81, rubber trees spawn randomly in the world, you have to search a bit to find them |
14:43 |
papillon81 |
PilzAdam: but i'll know they are no normal trees once I see them? |
14:43 |
PilzAdam |
they look like birch trees |
14:44 |
PilzAdam |
and why did you asked VanessaE? |
14:44 |
papillon81 |
thought she was the one who implemented them... |
14:44 |
PilzAdam |
thats wrong |
14:57 |
PilzAdam |
Here is the beginning: http://c55.me/blog/?p=102 |
15:00 |
OldCoder |
Why in the world did Penguin need to erase his disk? |
15:00 |
OldCoder |
Good morning BTW |
15:01 |
babyface1031 |
good morning |
15:01 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hey |
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15:11 |
babyface1031 |
@OldCoder he said his nyan mod crashed his coumputer and wiped his disk |
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15:12 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
15:12 |
OldCoder |
ty |
15:12 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, your world is running and seems to work |
15:12 |
OldCoder |
Port 30015 for now |
15:12 |
OldCoder |
Enjoy |
15:13 |
OldCoder |
The world name is Zegaton |
15:13 |
OldCoder |
I'd like to get a list of coordinates so that I can prepare screenshots |
15:13 |
Zeg9 |
Back |
15:14 |
OldCoder |
See above |
15:14 |
Zeg9 |
OldCoder, okay, I'll check |
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OldCoder |
NakedFury, hi |
15:17 |
NakedFury |
hi |
15:36 |
KikaRz |
Hi telek ? |
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15:51 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back Jordach |
15:51 |
Jordach |
hello #minetest |
16:02 |
Jordach |
Taoki i just read your most recent post about the texture |
16:02 |
Taoki |
hi |
16:02 |
Taoki |
ok |
16:02 |
Jordach |
is _IT_ still an issue? |
16:02 |
Taoki |
What is an issue? |
16:02 |
Jordach |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52745#p52745 |
16:03 |
KikaRz |
LOVE THAT |
16:03 |
Taoki |
If you mean your texture, no. Just said that if someone does make a good one too... well I'm not sure if maybe we can have multiple defaults or something |
16:03 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - i drew the texture by hand and pruned it according to Taoki's wishes |
16:03 |
Taoki |
But now, the licensing issue and your texture are good since last time we spoke. That is the default texture and up on GIT :) |
16:04 |
Jordach |
problem is, someone will want a gender specific |
16:04 |
KikaRz |
who is babe223? |
16:04 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Your texture is good cuz it's a little gender neutral |
16:04 |
Jordach |
(and knowing babe223, probably so) |
16:04 |
KikaRz |
want to know him |
16:04 |
Taoki |
Also, it will be so easy to allow custom textures it won't even matter |
16:05 |
Jordach |
Taoki - the hair is a diffuser, cant tell if its a guy with long hair |
16:05 |
Taoki |
indeed |
16:05 |
Jordach |
chest details are un-needed since we have no bump mapping |
16:05 |
Taoki |
We'll have that too :) |
16:05 |
Taoki |
Parallax mapping even. If I get around to it and it works well |
16:05 |
Jordach |
the long sleeved wooly jumper does not show off muscles |
16:05 |
KikaRz |
ill make myself 3D skin |
16:06 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - use Mcskin3d |
16:06 |
Jordach |
(win32 only) |
16:06 |
KikaRz |
i cant use it |
16:06 |
Jordach |
(the only thing that bugs me is that minetest has no hat support!) |
16:06 |
Jordach |
D: |
16:06 |
KikaRz |
lol |
16:06 |
KikaRz |
poor Jordach. |
16:06 |
KikaRz |
Want a hug? |
16:07 |
* Jordach |
is fine |
16:08 |
KikaRz |
stupid MCSkin3D |
16:08 |
KikaRz |
dont loads. |
16:08 |
KikaRz |
now worked. |
16:09 |
KikaRz |
poor me. |
16:09 |
KikaRz |
i cant make my long hair |
16:09 |
KikaRz |
:( |
16:09 |
KikaRz |
or my pony tail |
16:11 |
KikaRz |
can i use this? http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/571250 |
16:11 |
KikaRz |
better for me. |
16:11 |
KikaRz |
it saves in bmp too |
16:11 |
KikaRz |
love using that |
16:12 |
KikaRz |
can i use it? |
16:13 |
Taoki |
Does anyone still have the colored lights code or GIT branch? This is a video of it... seems the author removed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MWZxyCsbv4 |
16:14 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, anything happening to europe? |
16:15 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Checking |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Just timeouts |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
16:17 |
KikaRz |
oldcoder |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
No; it went down |
16:17 |
KikaRz |
where is european server hosted? |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, Europe :-) |
16:17 |
KikaRz |
... |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
Actually I don't recall the city |
16:17 |
KikaRz |
Country. |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
I need to see what's happening. Wait. |
16:17 |
OldCoder |
VPS is fine |
16:17 |
ruskie |
dublin probably |
16:18 |
ruskie |
atleast going by geoip data |
16:18 |
OldCoder |
Restarting |
16:18 |
OldCoder |
No explanation for outage |
16:18 |
ruskie |
happens |
16:18 |
OldCoder |
Checking database first |
16:19 |
KikaRz |
.. |
16:19 |
* ruskie |
is used to it as a sysadmin |
16:19 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
16:19 |
OldCoder |
I haven't converted Europe to LevelDB yet |
16:19 |
OldCoder |
I'll get around to that soon |
16:19 |
ruskie |
when will a protection mod be back on it? |
16:19 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
16:20 |
OldCoder |
We have glomie |
16:20 |
OldCoder |
There is a third one |
16:20 |
OldCoder |
Remind me in December |
16:20 |
OldCoder |
I'm trying to proceed cautiously |
16:20 |
ruskie |
ok |
16:20 |
ruskie |
I guess leveldb should be a priority |
16:20 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
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16:20 |
OldCoder |
Looks like Europe world went down a couple of hours ago |
16:20 |
OldCoder |
But no signs of a crash |
16:21 |
OldCoder |
Database compaction in progress |
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16:22 |
OldCoder |
Odd because I have auto-restart for these worlds |
16:22 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, Hello |
16:24 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, try Europe now |
16:24 |
OldCoder |
Report any further outages |
16:24 |
OldCoder |
May have been a VPS glitch |
16:24 |
OldCoder |
A reboot would do it |
16:24 |
ruskie |
yeah it's connecting |
16:24 |
ruskie |
now just need to figure out what construct next |
16:24 |
KikaRz |
finishing my skin.. |
16:26 |
* Jordach |
is bored |
16:26 |
Jordach |
and im engineering designs for suspension bridges |
16:26 |
Jordach |
(literal place downs) |
16:27 |
Jordach |
(in worldedit, with correct axis_ |
16:27 |
Jordach |
- _ +) |
16:27 |
Jordach |
. |
16:27 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Go have an adventure! |
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16:29 |
KikaRz |
Jordach |
16:29 |
KikaRz |
i can make my skin in Skincraft? http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/571250 |
16:29 |
KikaRz |
i cant make in MCSkin3D |
16:29 |
KikaRz |
its too laggy for me |
16:31 |
OldCoder |
I'm going to purchase cola or juice. Back soon. |
16:34 |
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16:37 |
KikaRz |
Made the SKIN! :D |
16:37 |
KikaRz |
telek, are you there? :( |
16:41 |
KikaRz |
celeron55, all the MT fans, are helping you and theirselves in the upgrading of Minetest :) |
16:41 |
KikaRz |
Now: Fixed Idea to think today: Players and Mobs 3D. |
16:42 |
KikaRz |
Yea |
16:42 |
KikaRz |
i've already done my simple skin |
16:42 |
KikaRz |
in SkinCraft |
16:42 |
KikaRz |
but if its going to be in blender |
16:42 |
KikaRz |
ill never get my skin |
16:42 |
KikaRz |
:( |
16:43 |
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16:43 |
Jordach |
0 |
16:43 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - if you made a hat in skincraft, done expect it to work |
16:43 |
KikaRz |
no |
16:44 |
KikaRz |
i didnt a hat |
16:44 |
Jordach |
add |
16:44 |
KikaRz |
i can add? |
16:44 |
KikaRz |
or itll bug? |
16:44 |
KikaRz |
well, i can add some headphones *-* |
16:45 |
KikaRz |
i can make a better parody.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9emjalsOsE&feature=relmfu |
16:45 |
KikaRz |
but not minecraft style, but yes minetest. |
16:48 |
KikaRz |
volume of computer 120% |
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16:51 |
KikaRz |
Jordach |
16:51 |
KikaRz |
are you sure that itll work? |
16:52 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - the hat layer in skincraft will not appear in minetest |
16:52 |
KikaRz |
so |
16:53 |
KikaRz |
why i shall make a hat? |
16:53 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
16:53 |
KikaRz |
well |
16:53 |
KikaRz |
anyways |
16:53 |
KikaRz |
making a copy of skin |
16:53 |
KikaRz |
and putting in the copy, a hat |
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16:57 |
KikaRz |
so |
16:57 |
KikaRz |
how itll work? |
16:58 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - this aint even upstream yet |
16:58 |
Jordach |
or in master |
16:58 |
Jordach |
so hold yer horse |
16:58 |
KikaRz |
??? |
16:58 |
KikaRz |
i just questioned: |
16:58 |
KikaRz |
How it'll work |
16:58 |
* Jordach |
has been planning on buying two alienware towers |
16:59 |
KikaRz |
there will be a skin system? |
16:59 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - probably not |
16:59 |
KikaRz |
so? |
16:59 |
KikaRz |
the client with skin will upload the skin to the server? |
16:59 |
KikaRz |
that was too laggy. |
16:59 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - it will more than likely be server sent |
16:59 |
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16:59 |
Jordach |
(server has all skins( |
17:00 |
KikaRz |
o_o' |
17:00 |
KikaRz |
too laggy too |
17:01 |
KikaRz |
we must download all the skins of the players? O_O' |
17:01 |
PilzAdam |
currently all textures (nodes etc.) are downloaded from the server |
17:02 |
RealBadAngel |
with the tcp code it will be much faster |
17:03 |
* PilzAdam |
wonders when c55 will merge it upstream |
17:03 |
KikaRz |
yea i know... |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
this century for sure ;) |
17:03 |
KikaRz |
lol |
17:03 |
PilzAdam |
with c55?!?! nah... |
17:05 |
rubenwardy |
What does everyone think of this? http://multa.webs.com/screenshot_minetest.jpg |
17:06 |
Jordach |
looks good |
17:07 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - i am thinking of buying two alienware pc towers with FULL Specs |
17:07 |
PilzAdam |
give me one ;-) |
17:07 |
Jordach |
(16gb of ram, 4.3ghz i7, total cost of 10,000+ in euros) |
17:07 |
Jordach |
and about 6tb of hard disk |
17:08 |
PilzAdam |
now i want both |
17:08 |
Jordach |
i just had a future moment, tries minetest on it, gets 5fps |
17:08 |
Jordach |
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
17:08 |
thexyz |
awful |
17:08 |
Jordach |
thexyz - i would put linux on it, IF THEY WERE NOT bought out BY DELL |
17:09 |
thexyz |
why does it cost 10k+ euros? |
17:09 |
Jordach |
because im planning on buying two |
17:10 |
PilzAdam |
heres a free euro character: € |
17:11 |
Jordach |
:D |
17:11 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - /me then adds a third alienware to the list |
17:11 |
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17:12 |
PilzAdam |
has anyone any pull request to minetest_game that is not on GitHub? |
17:13 |
Jordach |
hello Calinou |
17:14 |
thexyz |
Jordach: just build it yourself |
17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
for such money you can build better box than it |
17:17 |
Calinou |
hi |
17:17 |
KikaRz |
jordach |
17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
and with water cooling system |
17:17 |
Calinou |
watercooling, lol |
17:17 |
KikaRz |
i got 5 GB RAM and a i7 |
17:17 |
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17:17 |
Calinou |
i7, 12gb ram |
17:17 |
Calinou |
PWNT |
17:17 |
KikaRz |
but i dont have a good video card |
17:18 |
RealBadAngel |
hi NekoGloop |
17:18 |
Calinou |
I can run minecraft, i have enough ram :D |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
calinou |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
you wrong |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
my cousin got 5 computers |
17:18 |
Calinou |
raspis? |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
each one with 7 GB Ram i7 |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
2 with Linux Debian |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
3 with Windows 7 |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
oh, wrong |
17:18 |
KikaRz |
2 with 7 and 1 with XP |
17:18 |
Calinou |
looks like github got a new "notification" icon |
17:19 |
NekoGloop |
2 with mac os x, which sits there rusting. |
17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
not easier and cheaper to multiboot? ;) |
17:19 |
KikaRz |
... 5 computer boxes |
17:19 |
KikaRz |
not a whole computer |
17:19 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7bKqu6ZPbc |
17:19 |
KikaRz |
if it was a whole one... it was 25 GB RAM (O_O') |
17:20 |
Calinou |
multibooting sucks |
17:20 |
Calinou |
better remove windows and upgrade to linux |
17:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i did so |
17:20 |
NekoGloop |
downgrade* |
17:20 |
Calinou |
that's what i do on all my computers i had :> |
17:20 |
NekoGloop |
FTFY |
17:20 |
KikaRz |
nope calinou |
17:20 |
* ruskie |
has 3 24/7 boxen, 1 that's on for a large chunk of time... so far didn't need more than that active at the same time |
17:20 |
Calinou |
with UEFI it's a pita :p |
17:20 |
RealBadAngel |
but had for a long time linux and windows there at the same time |
17:22 |
NekoGloop |
Instant channel death. |
17:22 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: linux is an upgrade, not a downgrade... way too many upsides compared to the amount of downsides |
17:22 |
Calinou |
no downsides if you don't use AMD stuff. at all. |
17:22 |
Calinou |
:D |
17:22 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: Like not being able to use any software? |
17:22 |
KikaRz |
Nope |
17:23 |
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17:23 |
KikaRz |
Linux is a downgrade for someones , REASON: no program support (only with WINE) |
17:23 |
NekoGloop |
And not loading? |
17:23 |
KikaRz |
but they are wrong |
17:23 |
NekoGloop |
Linux never loads. |
17:23 |
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17:23 |
NekoGloop |
Ubuntu/Debian/Arch, you name it. |
17:24 |
KikaRz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMmyeXeXeK0 |
17:24 |
NekoGloop |
KikaRz: How so? |
17:24 |
KikaRz |
Lol, the lyrics dotn change |
17:24 |
KikaRz |
just the scenario |
17:24 |
RealBadAngel |
sure, Gateism is the only religion |
17:24 |
NekoGloop |
The only programs you get were either coded by someone else, then you have to compile them, or coded yourself. |
17:24 |
KikaRz |
Not me. |
17:25 |
KikaRz |
I dont have problems with linux |
17:25 |
KikaRz |
but someone people got |
17:25 |
NekoGloop |
KikaRz: Didnt know youtube lets you disallow mobile viewing. |
17:26 |
KikaRz |
... |
17:26 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: On a different note, i've played technic MC :3 |
17:26 |
KikaRz |
i know. |
17:26 |
KikaRz |
but in my phone works |
17:27 |
NekoGloop |
KikaRz: That video is unavailable to mobiles :> |
17:27 |
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17:27 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, you mean technic modpack? |
17:27 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Yeah that. |
17:27 |
KikaRz |
for me is not |
17:27 |
KikaRz |
Portugal is different of other countries |
17:27 |
KikaRz |
i can see all blocked videos for mobile phones |
17:27 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: The lasers mod is compatible woot. :3 |
17:28 |
RealBadAngel |
lasers are quite nice |
17:28 |
RealBadAngel |
especially for large screens |
17:29 |
NekoGloop |
I'm messing with finding technic-compatible mods. |
17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
lasers+redpowers packed wireing one can made real huge color LCDs |
17:29 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, yes you can :3 |
17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
ive added to it Mystcraft, thaumcraft, wireless redstone |
17:30 |
Calinou |
<NekoGloop> Calinou: Like not being able to use any software? |
17:30 |
Calinou |
there is plenty of software |
17:30 |
Calinou |
including a small amount that are linux-only |
17:30 |
Calinou |
mostly CLI tools :3 |
17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
iron chests, NEI, and a few more |
17:30 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Those three are all in by default. |
17:30 |
Calinou |
and wine might work too, sometimes. |
17:30 |
NekoGloop |
As well as iron chests, nei, etc. |
17:30 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: never loads? |
17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
thaumcraft and mystcraft? |
17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
end ee2? |
17:31 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Yeup. |
17:31 |
NekoGloop |
All three magical mods, wireless redstone, iron chests, nei, etc. |
17:31 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: Open source == someone knows how to hack it. |
17:32 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, none of the last 3 are part of technic part you liar :P |
17:32 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: lolno |
17:32 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Thaumic duplicator + Buildcraft pipes (or pneumatic tubes) + Energy condenser. Infinite stuff. |
17:32 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Yes they are. |
17:32 |
Calinou |
proprietary software is not safe for anyone |
17:32 |
NekoGloop |
You must have an older version. |
17:32 |
RealBadAngel |
no they dont |
17:33 |
Calinou |
someone discovers security issue? wait for the dev to fix it! |
17:33 |
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17:33 |
RealBadAngel |
just checket its webpage |
17:33 |
Calinou |
OSS is safer. security is not obscurity |
17:33 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach, or you 313hummer? |
17:33 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Webpage just says the main ones. The wiki is more "all covering" |
17:33 |
KikaRz |
hey |
17:34 |
KikaRz |
who can remake Hardcore mod of minecraft? |
17:34 |
KikaRz |
:p |
17:34 |
KikaRz |
that was good |
17:34 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach, are you 313hummer? |
17:34 |
NekoGloop |
Although they have cut out some mods from technic. |
17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
maybe, in fact i dont care anylonger :) |
17:35 |
KikaRz |
realbadangel |
17:35 |
KikaRz |
why you dont try to make this: |
17:36 |
KikaRz |
well, its a drill (or a laser, i think) that mines |
17:36 |
KikaRz |
and recollect resources to a chest |
17:36 |
NekoGloop |
Mining well |
17:36 |
KikaRz |
i guess its that... |
17:36 |
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17:37 |
KikaRz |
Wb Jordach |
17:37 |
RealBadAngel |
KikaRz, and chest? is floating in the air following you all the time? |
17:37 |
KikaRz |
no |
17:37 |
KikaRz |
... |
17:37 |
KikaRz |
well |
17:37 |
KikaRz |
let me explain with a drawwing in text... |
17:38 |
KikaRz |
or better |
17:38 |
KikaRz |
as a video |
17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
before you start, its impossible to put something to the chest which is in uloaded area |
17:38 |
KikaRz |
a sec... |
17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, go on |
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17:45 |
KikaRz |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Eb8vBANxoM+ |
17:45 |
KikaRz |
yea |
17:45 |
KikaRz |
its a mining well |
17:45 |
KikaRz |
but it was hard to do if it wasnt loaded. |
17:45 |
KikaRz |
in a server, it would work... |
17:45 |
KikaRz |
but in single player. |
17:45 |
KikaRz |
maybe not |
17:47 |
NekoGloop |
In technic, i never leave my house. |
17:47 |
NekoGloop |
Energy collectors mkIII, antimatter relays mkIII, and energy condenser. |
17:48 |
NekoGloop |
== I AM GOD. |
17:48 |
KikaRz |
and like quarry. |
17:48 |
NekoGloop |
Quarry so useless. |
17:49 |
KikaRz |
yep *-* |
17:49 |
NekoGloop |
Considering the cost of making one, you are gonna have so much crap you wont know what to do with it. |
17:49 |
NekoGloop |
(By the time you get one, i mean) |
17:50 |
RealBadAngel |
KikaRz, those features has nothin to do with tools |
17:50 |
NekoGloop |
Divining rod + gem/diamond pick = rollin' with EMC. |
17:51 |
KikaRz |
:/ |
17:51 |
NekoGloop |
s/with/in/ |
17:51 |
KikaRz |
just try to make quarry for Technic *-* |
17:51 |
RealBadAngel |
when lua entities will be fixed and reliable |
17:51 |
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17:52 |
RealBadAngel |
by now makin somethin that wont really work doesnt make any sense |
17:52 |
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17:53 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Something like minetest? |
17:54 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, bout EMC, try to build Flowers |
17:54 |
marktraceur |
What's technic? (sorry, have been out of the community a while, don't know all this stuff) |
17:54 |
RealBadAngel |
i had plants made of 32 flowers each |
17:54 |
telek |
I just wanna know where my human, elf, dwarf, goblin, and kobold NPCs are! :D |
17:55 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Glowstone + Energy Collector mkIII + Antimatter Relay mkIII + Energy condenser. |
17:55 |
RealBadAngel |
each flower produced one diamond block in about a minute |
17:55 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Can antimatter relays be chained? |
17:56 |
RealBadAngel |
make output on energy condenser with diamonds, send them through tobes to another central collector |
17:56 |
RealBadAngel |
*tubes |
17:56 |
NekoGloop |
So not directly? |
17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
in 2 days you will loose interest in building something in minecraft |
17:57 |
NekoGloop |
Why? :3 |
17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
you just made creative mode out of your world |
17:57 |
NekoGloop |
Heh. |
17:57 |
NekoGloop |
Many things cannot be condensed. |
17:58 |
NekoGloop |
Such as pretty much everything from thaumcraft. |
17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
diamonds are cheaper than dirt then |
17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
and all the materials |
17:59 |
RealBadAngel |
folks were crying OMG diamod for 8192 emc??? |
17:59 |
PilzAdam |
what do you guys actually think about this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/40 |
17:59 |
NekoGloop |
Me: *faints from red matter EMC cost* |
18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
i was getting hundreds of milions EMC in a few hours of gameplay |
18:00 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Yet there's still so much you can do. |
18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
yup |
18:00 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, RealBadAngel - shall i run a tekkit server? |
18:00 |
* marktraceur |
wonders what EMC is |
18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
choose another game or erase EE2 |
18:01 |
Jordach |
or the technic server |
18:01 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Sure. |
18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
idea that each object has a value |
18:01 |
NekoGloop |
Technic servers dont work IIRC. |
18:01 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel - THAT CAN BE done with a array |
18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
and you can transmute one object into another |
18:02 |
Jordach |
(rather than havin to redefine every damn mod) |
18:02 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Yeah well i dont like weeks of digging for one damn diamond. |
18:02 |
RealBadAngel |
as i mentioned 1 diamond were worth 8192 cobble or dirt |
18:03 |
RealBadAngel |
in minecraft i had huge machines that did that for me |
18:03 |
NekoGloop |
Granted i could make an IC2 condenser, and do that thing with making a diamond. |
18:03 |
NekoGloop |
Obsidian can be made from lava cells and water cells woot :3 |
18:04 |
RealBadAngel |
anyway, as you propably know i dont play mc anymore |
18:04 |
RealBadAngel |
i like to play and code at the same time |
18:04 |
marktraceur |
Is this a mod that adds in really complex scientific devices? Really? |
18:05 |
RealBadAngel |
its a bunch of mods |
18:05 |
NekoGloop |
I like to not have people piss on my ideas, but hey, we all have hobbies. |
18:05 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: Minecraft. |
18:05 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Well, this does appear to be #minetest |
18:05 |
RealBadAngel |
selection of propably best mods made for minecraft |
18:06 |
OldCoder |
Bach |
18:06 |
marktraceur |
Seems like ##minecraft might be the place for this conversation |
18:06 |
NekoGloop |
Sebastian? |
18:06 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, marktraceur, RealBadAngel Hey |
18:06 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: The purpose of the double hash is? |
18:06 |
OldCoder |
<NekoGloop> == I AM GOD |
18:06 |
OldCoder |
The job presumably offers fringe benefits |
18:07 |
telek |
NekoGloop: To get 2x as high? :D |
18:07 |
OldCoder |
But no retirement |
18:07 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: That it's generally off-topic for Freenode, because it's not a free software project |
18:07 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, hi |
18:07 |
* OldCoder |
nods |
18:07 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: And they'll kick you for talking about technic. |
18:07 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, make me an angel PNG |
18:07 |
OldCoder |
Carrying weapons! |
18:07 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: If that happens you can call the Freenode staff and ask them to de-op the person who wrongly kicked you, likely |
18:07 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Or better yet, start the ##mc-technic channel |
18:07 |
NekoGloop |
Nope. |
18:08 |
NekoGloop |
Freenode staff dont give a shit |
18:08 |
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18:08 |
ruskie |
freenode staff only take care of the network |
18:08 |
NekoGloop |
And they'll all be re-opped, even if they do de-op them. |
18:08 |
ruskie |
channels are managed by chanowners and chanops |
18:08 |
Penguin |
hi |
18:08 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Then start ##minecraft-technic or whatever |
18:09 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: Do i look like i give a fuck? |
18:09 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, the technic pack, or rather some mods from it, are the source of ideas for my own mod for minetest |
18:09 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: You look like you're wildly off-topic in this channel, so I think you *should* |
18:09 |
RealBadAngel |
so talkin bout them is ok imho |
18:09 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: If you were talking about your mod, I'd agree |
18:10 |
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18:10 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: This channel has no purpose, other than making people consider suicide. |
18:10 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: This channel is for the support and development of a free game. You're not doing either of those things, so.... |
18:11 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: Support is nonexistant. Development is #minetest-dev or #minetest-delta , never here. |
18:11 |
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18:11 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Development of mods is here, I mean. I support people who come in. |
18:12 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: And #minetest-mods |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: I didn't realize that was still around, but I was under the impression that it got dropped |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
In favor of not splitting off too many channels |
18:13 |
KikaRz |
Telek :D |
18:13 |
KikaRz |
telek * |
18:13 |
KikaRz |
how are you??? :) |
18:13 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: In any case, the channel is definitely supposed to be for a free game, named minetest. If you're not discussing that, you probably should be elsewhere |
18:14 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: A free game that isnt being developed. |
18:14 |
roxc |
could someone here tell me if minetest woul run on mips without too much modification? |
18:14 |
KikaRz |
mips? o_o' |
18:14 |
KikaRz |
what's that mips? |
18:14 |
roxc |
the architecture of my router |
18:14 |
KikaRz |
Searching on my friend Google... |
18:14 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: That's a pretty subjective claim, but even assuming it's true, the community here is still alive and well. |
18:15 |
NekoGloop |
It is very true. |
18:15 |
KikaRz |
roxc, you can run minetest without much modifications just by modificating it. |
18:15 |
KikaRz |
:p |
18:15 |
jin_xi |
^^^ huh? |
18:15 |
NekoGloop |
And the community? Only serves the purpose of making you feel like you wanna die. |
18:15 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, NekoGloop and others are very offtopic sometimes, but in general they talk about Minetest |
18:16 |
PilzAdam |
but i absolutly agree to your point |
18:16 |
KikaRz |
jin_xi, if you modificate it, you dont need to modificate it again |
18:16 |
NakedFury |
nobody has ever made me feel like dying |
18:16 |
KikaRz |
just if you format / reinstall it :p |
18:16 |
KikaRz |
telek, are you there ? :( |
18:16 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: I'm not opposed to them being here, but I think they should discuss Minecraft, and its mods, somewhere more appropriate. |
18:16 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop - i could easily code your ideas |
18:16 |
* marktraceur |
didn't join this channel to discuss a game he doesn't play |
18:16 |
telek |
KikaRz: Hmm? |
18:16 |
Jordach |
(but lua for me is a no go) |
18:16 |
KikaRz |
Ohai :D |
18:16 |
NekoGloop |
I played it. |
18:17 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop PM |
18:17 |
NekoGloop |
Until i realized its never gonna work right on windows. |
18:17 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: No. |
18:17 |
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18:17 |
roxc |
well i guess that means it takes at least some effort |
18:18 |
telek |
What's up KikaRz? |
18:18 |
NekoGloop |
Its not gonna work on windows, which is the os that anyone in their right mind uses. |
18:18 |
marktraceur |
roxc: You'd need to cross-compile it, but I'm not sure it would need much porting, so long as your device had enough resources to handle it |
18:18 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: See, that seems a bit hostile to me. What's with that? |
18:19 |
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18:19 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: Because no one cares about lil' ol' me. |
18:19 |
KikaRz |
im fine, and you, telek? |
18:19 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: We care, but you're making it hard when you're so hostile. |
18:20 |
telek |
Okay, catching up on the news. |
18:20 |
roxc |
i didn't host a server yet but as i have been told it needs nearly none |
18:20 |
marktraceur |
roxc: You may have been misinformed. There needs to be at least some CPU power. |
18:20 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: I wasnt hostile until i removed my mods and no one even noticed. |
18:21 |
jin_xi |
lolwut |
18:21 |
Calinou |
<NekoGloop> marktraceur: A free game that isnt being developed. < read the commit log, it's much more active now.. |
18:21 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: With little things. |
18:21 |
Calinou |
better than nothing |
18:22 |
Calinou |
lots of bugfixes is good |
18:22 |
roxc |
it has to have some or it probably wouldnt work |
18:22 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: I'm sorry to hear that, I wish I'd been around to notice. I have been MIA for a long time, so it's unlikely that I would have. |
18:22 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, what do you expect from the developers? |
18:22 |
harrison |
ooh a flamewar can i play? |
18:22 |
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18:22 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: Developments? |
18:23 |
PilzAdam |
what exactly? you are calling the current development "little things" |
18:23 |
harrison |
resolved: microsoft is antifreedom and therefore antilife and must be deprecated |
18:23 |
harrison |
discuss |
18:24 |
roxc |
500MHz says the web |
18:24 |
NekoGloop |
harrison: Perfect amount of freedom. |
18:24 |
harrison |
NekoGloop claims that antifreedom is freedom. sicuss |
18:24 |
marktraceur |
harrison: Inciting flame wars seems like exactly the opposite of productive. |
18:25 |
marktraceur |
roxc: That's minimum, it might only support a few players. |
18:25 |
harrison |
inspiration have i none -- just to touch the flaming dove |
18:25 |
telek |
NekoGloop: Or y'know some of us noticed, but due to your attitude the other day we just decided to respect your decision, since you seemed so inclined to do so. |
18:26 |
roxc |
thats not much but we have never been more than two in the last weeks |
18:26 |
NekoGloop |
telek: You all only noticed because i said so. |
18:26 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: These people are volunteers, so sometimes they drop off and come back. Sometimes they're too busy to work. One of the cool things is that when they disappear, the world doesn't stop. We can keep working. |
18:27 |
harrison |
i made a film recently http://spasim.org/wordpress/?page_id=24 |
18:27 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Minetest doesn't cost anything. But if there's something you really want, maybe you can hire a freelance developer to make a feature for you, and contribute it back to the community as a donation. |
18:27 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: For upwards of $5000 |
18:28 |
harrison |
or keep it for himself |
18:28 |
harrison |
next step |
18:28 |
* Jordach |
starts paying OldCoder in bitcoins |
18:28 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Or even make it yourself, if you have the ability to do so (I don't know your experience) |
18:28 |
harrison |
$$$ |
18:28 |
KikaRz |
telek, go onto the game |
18:28 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Depending on your wishlist, the price of the developer, and their skill, it might be that much or less. |
18:28 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: I cant even code in lua worth shit (or at least, this is the consensus) |
18:28 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: You could ask for help from the people in this channel, they may pitch in |
18:29 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: You could start a kickstarter to ask for help with the financing |
18:29 |
KikaRz |
Someone, give me chair recipe. |
18:29 |
marktraceur |
(asking for quotes would be the first step, I suppose) |
18:29 |
NekoGloop |
KikaRz: http://minetest.net/forum |
18:29 |
Calinou |
kickstarter is overrated (and closed source :D) |
18:29 |
KikaRz |
I cant enter when in game |
18:29 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
18:29 |
KikaRz |
my computer lags. |
18:29 |
Calinou |
if you're not promising everyone who donates $20 to get a lamborghini, you get nothing |
18:29 |
KikaRz |
im in the old one |
18:30 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: That said, you can always just *say* they will get it. |
18:30 |
Jordach |
oh yes the great Minetest performance divide |
18:30 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Worse than the minecraft one. |
18:30 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I think there may be a good way to incentivize this through stickers and t-shirts with minetest images on them, maybe posters too |
18:31 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop agreed totally |
18:31 |
Jordach |
120fps over there |
18:31 |
NekoGloop |
I cant even alttab while playing minetest -_- |
18:31 |
* Jordach |
warms up the pixel art skills |
18:31 |
Calinou |
on slow computers mt is faster, on good computers mc is usually faster (though not always) |
18:31 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: As for non-free software bit, yeah, but there aren't a lot of great objects for payment processing. Maybe PayPal? |
18:31 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: don't play in fullscreen |
18:31 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: Duh? |
18:31 |
marktraceur |
s/objects/options/ |
18:31 |
NekoGloop |
I dont? |
18:31 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: i know no free payment method :p |
18:31 |
Jordach |
PAYPAL. |
18:32 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: ah... though the fullscreen shouldn't matter, you can alt tab in fullscreen on windows... |
18:32 |
Jordach |
(you lose about 6-20%) |
18:32 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: Yes. Yes you can. |
18:32 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: You may or may not know, I work at the Wikmedia Foundation....I know our fundraising people really hate the payment processing parts of their job |
18:32 |
NekoGloop |
I use it to escape from a youtube video that fails to fullscreen. |
18:33 |
Calinou |
wikimedia employee? *starts hating on WP admins* |
18:34 |
Calinou |
you know about minetest being removed from wikipedia? |
18:34 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: No, we really don't admin the sites |
18:34 |
Calinou |
i know :P |
18:34 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: We just make and maintain the software :) |
18:35 |
marktraceur |
Well, and set up and maintain the infrastructure. |
18:36 |
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18:39 |
telek |
Jordach: Sproxel! :D |
18:39 |
OldCoder |
Hey! |
18:39 |
* OldCoder |
reads up |
18:40 |
OldCoder |
Bitcoins :-) |
18:40 |
OldCoder |
Some of you mine them |
18:40 |
OldCoder |
Surely you will be wealthy soon :p |
18:40 |
OldCoder |
But it is a nice concept |
18:40 |
OldCoder |
I need to build the software for my distro |
18:41 |
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18:53 |
telek |
Lol, bitcoin is a ponzi scam :D |
18:53 |
marktraceur |
telek: Yes, but it's a decentralized, community-run ponzi scam. Power of open source! |
18:53 |
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18:54 |
telek |
If you give the default percentage for transfer verification now, it's like a half day's work (0.01 BTC is about even with power costs and not including hardware upgrade costs now) |
18:57 |
telek |
marktraceur: Indeed! If you actually calculate your power usage versus the cost of BTC production, it's about breakeven on low-end gpu hardware (cpu would be totally useless now). Additionally if you start factoring in disk usage and such, it'll be below break-even before 2017 or whenever the bitcoin supply is supposed to run out. And that's assuming someone with a large enough computer/cluster doesn't decide to see if they can 'outrun' |
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18:57 |
Doc22 |
oldcoder |
18:57 |
* telek |
waves. |
18:57 |
Doc22 |
i read what you said |
18:57 |
Doc22 |
hey telek |
18:57 |
Doc22 |
do you mena duplicators or anything mesecons |
18:57 |
Doc22 |
mean |
18:57 |
marktraceur |
telek: Well, and you also need to factor in the market. Uncertainty aside, the more people who use bitcoin, the higher their value. |
18:58 |
marktraceur |
telek: My brother, I think, realized this and started campaigning for more widespread use :) |
18:58 |
Doc22 |
oldcoder |
18:58 |
telek |
marktraceur: Agreed, but given that it seems to be hovering at 11 dollars still, I don't see the price increasing in the near future. |
18:58 |
marktraceur |
telek: That's because there needs to be a big push in order for it to be usable |
18:59 |
telek |
marktraceur: Given how long it's been around, I kinda question if that'll happen. Bitcoin seems like the secondlife of virtual currency :D |
19:00 |
telek |
Other than the bad I haven't heard anything positive about bitcoins in at least 6 months. |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
Doc22 |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, Please destroy those machines |
19:00 |
* marktraceur |
won't argue the point, but it's possible that it'll be used more in future |
19:00 |
Doc22 |
babyface told me |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
Permanently |
19:00 |
Doc22 |
i destroyed mine |
19:00 |
Doc22 |
i had only one |
19:00 |
Doc22 |
:) |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
No more please |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
Anything that runs unattended |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
This costs me money in real life |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
i undersand |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
And hurts the other worlds |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
no explanation eeded |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
lets hope nobody finds out about it |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
;D |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
Maybe if I upgrade sometime to a higher plan |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
Finds out? |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
about the "machines' |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
This is not exactly a top secret forum |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
that way it doesnt become a forum |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
If there is a problem |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
I can remove the code |
19:01 |
Doc22 |
nobody knows what the |
19:02 |
Doc22 |
machiens are |
19:02 |
Doc22 |
machines |
19:02 |
Doc22 |
to solve the problem |
19:02 |
Doc22 |
make it where pistons can move blocks |
19:02 |
Doc22 |
inside protectors |
19:03 |
Doc22 |
anyway i am telling tanker to get rid of his and i got rid of mine |
19:03 |
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19:03 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, If you submit a patch I will be interested |
19:03 |
Doc22 |
ok ill look at the code later |
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19:13 |
KikaRz |
erm |
19:13 |
KikaRz |
oh f**ck |
19:13 |
KikaRz |
who knows the sequence of chests in Technic? |
19:14 |
KikaRz |
first, wood chest |
19:14 |
KikaRz |
-> ? |
19:14 |
NekoGloop |
Iron |
19:14 |
NekoGloop |
Copper |
19:14 |
NekoGloop |
Silver |
19:14 |
NekoGloop |
Gold |
19:14 |
NekoGloop |
Mithril |
19:23 |
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19:27 |
Jordach |
finally found the song i've been hunting for |
19:28 |
* Jordach |
is a googling god |
19:29 |
OldCoder |
That is a nice phrase |
19:31 |
Jordach |
okay, in case of finding songs, use russian sites |
19:31 |
Jordach |
(they SEEM to be endless) |
19:35 |
Jordach |
ah yes, a country without legal crap... :) |
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19:35 |
thexyz |
http://grooveshark.com/ |
19:38 |
Jordach |
john_minetest - use the TOR network |
19:38 |
Jordach |
(just like a vpn, but OSS) |
19:39 |
thexyz |
Jordach: have you ever heard about openvpn? |
19:39 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, for youtube vids I use youtube unblocker for FF |
19:39 |
Jordach |
thexyz russia has all the pirated stuff you will ever need |
19:40 |
thexyz |
unrelated, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEk9xNrH7gs |
19:43 |
Jordach |
john_minetest - it would be funny if the german pirate party won the elections? would it not? |
19:43 |
PilzAdam |
i like them |
19:44 |
Jordach |
and my picture viewer is being a douche |
19:45 |
PilzAdam |
eeeeeehm |
19:45 |
PilzAdam |
it is not in the government |
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19:46 |
PilzAdam |
http://www.bundestag.de/bundestag/plenum/bilder/sitzverteilung_17_gross2.jpg |
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19:49 |
PilzAdam |
and in surveys the pirate party has under 5% |
19:50 |
PilzAdam |
thats true |
19:50 |
PilzAdam |
but not in the main parliament |
19:52 |
PilzAdam |
heres a english version of the image: http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/bundestag/groups/distribution_gross.jpg |
19:52 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - i sometimes pirate things, but like most things, i'm willing to pay for things that are WORTH the money (think of it as taste testing) |
19:53 |
Jordach |
such as BF3 |
19:54 |
PilzAdam |
the pirates party is a political party in germany (and other EU contries) |
19:54 |
PilzAdam |
it has nothing to do with pirating thinkgs |
20:00 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
20:01 |
telek |
john_minetest: What about the Somalian Pirate Party? :D |
20:01 |
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20:02 |
thexyz |
bf3, lol, worth the money, lol |
20:06 |
telek |
Out of curiousity: is it intentionally that mods can't trigger chunk loads into memory? |
20:07 |
telek |
IE for npc/animal mods being able to arbitrarily load chunks to do NPC interaction would be beneficial. Maybe with error-coding if going above a certain memory threshold so the scripts could wait for memory usage to fall before continuing. |
20:07 |
marktraceur |
telek: Could cause severe performance problems, but feel free to submit a patch, I'd use it |
20:08 |
telek |
marktraceur: Given that npc mods in general cause severe performance problems, I wonder how big of an issue it'd really be :D |
20:09 |
telek |
Additionally at the point where the performance becomes that much of an issue, a postgres, mysql, or nosql backend for data access will probably be warranted. |
20:09 |
telek |
Speaking of which: the map format doesn't really benefit much from using sqlite over other DB formats, no? |
20:10 |
marktraceur |
telek: There are a couple of different questions, there....the format itself doesn't require it, surely, but it's easier to set up. |
20:10 |
telek |
It's 2 fields, so a nosql backend would perfectly translate to the key:value pairs that such a setup assmes. |
20:11 |
marktraceur |
telek: Sounds like you'll have a busy Thanksgivinng :) |
20:11 |
telek |
marktraceur: Quite, but sadly not with code. |
20:12 |
thexyz |
telek: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/db_backends |
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20:13 |
telek |
thexyz: Awesome. Can it do sqlite to whatever translation? |
20:13 |
thexyz |
yes |
20:13 |
telek |
Sweet. |
20:13 |
thexyz |
when whatever == leveldb |
20:13 |
* telek |
nods. |
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20:39 |
papillon81 |
sorry to ask this question, but I found no answer in videos or docs: how do I make a geothermal generator work? the lava cools down here and blocks the generator... |
20:39 |
jin_xi |
afaik lava cooling is from a mod |
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20:42 |
papillon81 |
jin_xi: it's the first time I see it. only on the generator |
20:42 |
telek |
john_minetest: I donated to minetest and all I got was this ***** t-shirt :D |
20:43 |
* telek |
adds an extra * there. |
20:43 |
* Jordach |
is sitting through mc's ending creds...... i need to waste some time |
20:44 |
telek |
Lol. |
20:45 |
jin_xi |
papillon81: sorry i dont know then |
20:45 |
telek |
john_minetest: DMs: the terrorists of the minetest world :D |
20:46 |
telek |
BTW, why do they fire at you THROUGH the ground? |
20:46 |
Jordach |
its radius detection |
20:46 |
telek |
Bleh. |
20:46 |
Jordach |
similar to the ghasts in mc |
20:46 |
jin_xi |
papillon81: seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsAJ-ux-Ryk |
20:46 |
telek |
I always disabled them as a result. |
20:46 |
Jordach |
(they share the same properties, bar flying) |
20:46 |
telek |
They kept ruining large swaths of the world, whether players were logged in or not. |
20:47 |
papillon81 |
jin_xi: yes, that's exactly my reference. it's glass that is put around the generator, right? |
20:47 |
jin_xi |
yes. |
20:49 |
papillon81 |
that's what I did |
20:50 |
jin_xi |
well idk i dont use technic myself |
20:57 |
Jordach |
anyways #minetest, im going to head off to bed now.. :) |
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telek |
Muadtralk: KikaRz said to ask you to hop on port 30001 |
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21:03 |
telek |
Somebody needs to make one voxel 'bump' on the playermesh for male, and 2 bumps for female :) |
21:06 |
telek |
marktraceur: Oh right, and the OTHER use of that mod loadable chunking: doing 'online' 'as available' water flow simulations for sectors that nobody frequents often. |
21:06 |
telek |
john_minetest: installed minetest, or 'in place' minetest? |
21:07 |
telek |
installed should be .minetest/world/worldname/worldmods |
21:07 |
telek |
Or ~/.minetest |
21:07 |
telek |
If you're not in your home dir |
21:08 |
telek |
If you're trying to 'globally' install it, it should be under either /usr/games/share/minetest or /usr/share/games/minetest |
21:16 |
telek |
Cool :) |
21:16 |
telek |
And it should be mostly just plug-in-play |
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OldCoder |
iqualfragile, Hey |
21:20 |
telek |
Indeed :) |
21:20 |
* OldCoder |
back in a few minutes |
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21:24 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk |
21:24 |
KikaRz |
Go to the server please |
21:29 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
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21:31 |
marktraceur |
No manners in this channel. |
21:31 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: And a pleasant afternoon to you! |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
oh ok, well fuck you then ;) |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
good afternoon :D |
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21:31 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I was referring to my compatriots, here |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
just kidding anyway :D |
21:35 |
VanessaE |
all right this stupid leaf decay bug is really getting on my nerves. |
21:35 |
VanessaE |
ServerError: LuaError: [...] leafdecay.lua:50: attempt to index local 'reg' (a nil value) |
21:38 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, go to the server |
21:38 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm? |
21:38 |
KikaRz |
We got a new user |
21:38 |
KikaRz |
that needs privs |
21:38 |
Muadtralk |
which priv? |
21:38 |
KikaRz |
fly and interact_extra |
21:39 |
Muadtralk |
hmmmm |
21:39 |
KikaRz |
its my friend |
21:39 |
KikaRz |
Telek |
21:39 |
Muadtralk |
okay then |
21:39 |
telek |
VanessaE: Not just leaf decay either |
21:40 |
telek |
I saw similiar bug in both money mods, and possibly sporatically in animals as well. |
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21:40 |
telek |
Near as I can tell it's unloading a chunk that has operations going on. |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
figures. |
21:43 |
VanessaE |
hell I get it on some of my old maps just by loading the map and sitting there for a few seconds. |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
Back |
21:43 |
VanessaE |
can someone PUHLEASE fix that? |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
hey OC. |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
hah, pilzadam noticed it months ago: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/239 |
21:46 |
VanessaE |
(the world in question did have some unknown nodes, from a missing vines mod) |
21:46 |
telek |
Thanks Muadtralk! |
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KikaRz |
How i make a Technic fast furnace??? |
22:10 |
telek |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=42 |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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23:04 |
* telek |
waves. |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
telek, he was a stupid mother f***** |
23:08 |
Muadtralk |
hahahahahaha |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
sry for saying this muadtralk |
23:08 |
Muadtralk |
get disconnected? |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
no |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
Server shut down |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
well |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
i must go |
23:08 |
* telek |
waves! |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, tomorrow, NEW PARK! |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
:D |
23:08 |
KikaRz |
see ya tomorrow |
23:09 |
telek |
Have a good day/night KikaRz. |
23:09 |
OldCoder |
See you KikaRz |
23:13 |
OldCoder |
I will be away for a few hours |
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marktraceur |
OWNSyouAll: We don't support slavery in this channel, FYI :) |
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OWNSyouAll |
marktraceur: ? |
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23:19 |
Octupus |
Hola |
23:19 |
OWNSyouAll |
oh |
23:19 |
OWNSyouAll |
i see what your saying |
23:19 |
marktraceur |
OWNSyouAll: Your nick has many meanings :) |
23:19 |
marktraceur |
Octupus: Oh hi! |
23:19 |
Octupus |
:) |
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23:53 |
telek |
Is it possible for the server to map keybindings on the client? |
23:53 |
telek |
IE for adding server-specific function keys for alternate item menus and whatnot. |
23:58 |
marktraceur |
telek: You'd need to add support on the client, too. But seems like it would be possible. |
23:58 |
telek |
That was what I was wondering :l |
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23:58 |
marktraceur |
telek: Yeah, there's no magic support for forcing keybindings. Add it! :) |
23:58 |
Kacey |
hello |
23:59 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Hi! |
23:59 |
telek |
I think at that point it'd be better to add server profiles. |
23:59 |
Octupus |
Hi Kacey |
23:59 |
Kacey |
thanksgiving is in 2 days |
23:59 |
telek |
Then have keybindings generated on a server-by-server basis. |