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| 00:09 |
khonkhortisan |
Running minetest.register_node twice only works with ':test:foo', not 'test:foo' or '::test:foo'. So to reload a mod while the server is running, I'm going to copy init.lua. |
| 00:23 |
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| 00:37 |
NekoGloop |
Goooooooooood evenin |
| 00:37 |
khonkhortisan |
hello |
| 00:41 |
NekoGloop |
sup? |
| 00:45 |
khonkhortisan |
mod loader |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
Eh? |
| 00:46 |
khonkhortisan |
For when you're developing a mod and you don't want to restart the server all the time |
| 00:46 |
khonkhortisan |
Right now it only works on the simplest of mods. |
| 00:46 |
NekoGloop |
Oh... Nice. |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 01:07 |
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| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, hi |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
see this page: |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
|
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, there are two new Windows Client ZIP files |
| 01:11 |
* VanessaE |
reads... |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
30MB with preloaded media |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
10MB without |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
Your patch is included |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
So is a minetest_game with most mods |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
30MB one should load worlds quickly |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
A few people have tried and say both of them work |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
I have also recompiled the servers with lower optimizations |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
May crash less now |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
If you want to link in my Ubuntu 12.04 AMD64 builds you're quite welcome to do so :-) |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
Back in 60 to 90 minutes |
| 01:12 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
(they're built with the default settings) |
| 01:13 |
OldCoder |
Remind me about that next time we talk |
| 01:13 |
OldCoder |
|
| 01:13 |
* OldCoder |
is AFK |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 01:20 |
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| 01:20 |
* VanessaE |
pokes NekoGloop just to randomly highlight him ;-) |
| 01:20 |
NekoGloop |
Meow? |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
meow. |
| 01:21 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 01:21 |
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| 01:21 |
NekoGloop |
tried setting "fov" in the minetest.conf? |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
nope, haven't played with it |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
been too busy packing |
| 01:22 |
NekoGloop |
also, did you see my homedecor post? |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
not yet |
| 01:22 |
NekoGloop |
feels weird to walk through tabletops. |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know about that bug, I'll fix it RSN. :-) |
| 01:23 |
NekoGloop |
I've set my fov to 360 for the heck of it |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
oh my |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
screenshot? :-) |
| 01:24 |
NekoGloop |
as soon as it loads, sure |
| 01:25 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZnkzaA I'm only a single nodespace from that hole |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
whoa |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
um |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
and those chests are only 7 away |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
well now we know the game uses rectilinear projection ;-) |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
haha |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
i feel like a giant when i look down |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
and i can see through things if i have my back to them |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
it must look 10x as weird when you're actually walking around |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
well I kinda trapped myself in my own house 8) |
| 01:28 |
NekoGloop |
#minecraft is having a reddit war |
| 01:29 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZnkzag Oh no! i'll never make it back! |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
gevalt! |
| 01:29 |
NekoGloop |
i feel like I'm running all over the fucking place |
| 01:30 |
NekoGloop |
lets ramp this up a bit, shall we? |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
dare I ask? |
| 01:30 |
NekoGloop |
to, say, 2000? |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
um, |
| 01:30 |
NekoGloop |
If this works, you'll get more screenies? |
| 01:30 |
NekoGloop |
s/?/! |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 01:31 |
NekoGloop |
I may or may not vomit when i turn around xD |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
" also make everything not sound like grass, k? :D " |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
sure, feel like showing me how sounds actually *work*? :-| |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 01:32 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 01:32 |
NekoGloop |
just use other defaults |
| 01:32 |
NekoGloop |
like stone |
| 01:32 |
NekoGloop |
(where applicable) |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
eventually I'll fix it |
| 01:32 |
NekoGloop |
or wood |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
too lazy right now :D |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
besides, been too busy lately with the move |
| 01:33 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZnkzbA My. God. Give me a trash can, i might need it. |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
and yes, per Oldcoder's request, I'll build a copy of the new house in minetest ;) |
| 01:34 |
NekoGloop |
I'm actually standing on the node I'm pointing at |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
wow |
| 01:34 |
NekoGloop |
flowers the size of mammoths! |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
is that set for 2000? :-) |
| 01:34 |
NekoGloop |
yes |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
jeesh |
| 01:35 |
NekoGloop |
seems to not be TOO different from 360, maybe the limit is not much higher than 360 or IS 360 |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
well there's no such thing as more than 360 degrees worth of view, so... |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
:-0) |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 01:37 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZnkzbg I happen to be about 40-50 nodespaces from the mountain at the bottom, which is only 12 nodes tall |
| 01:37 |
NekoGloop |
also, we seem to have regrown redwoods! \o/ |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
that just looks so weird |
| 01:38 |
NekoGloop |
36000000000000000000 is my next attempt 8D |
| 01:38 |
NekoGloop |
(just copied from my config) |
| 01:38 |
NekoGloop |
and before you ask, yes, i am bloody insane |
| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
I coulda told you that ;) |
| 01:39 |
NekoGloop |
I'm almost scared to view the minetest window now |
| 01:39 |
VanessaE |
you'll probably crash the game ;) |
| 01:39 |
NekoGloop |
eh, it does have a limit. |
| 01:39 |
NekoGloop |
damn. |
| 01:39 |
NekoGloop |
36000000000000000000 == 2000 == 360 |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:40 |
NekoGloop |
bummer |
| 01:40 |
NekoGloop |
let's try something subtle now |
| 01:40 |
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| 01:42 |
NekoGloop |
with 20... i feel... short... |
| 01:42 |
NekoGloop |
try it out yourself, screenies dont really describe it |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
pass :-) |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
I just ate dinner, I'd rather keep it down :D |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
its not sickening... just different |
| 01:43 |
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| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
all right, I'll bite. |
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| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
weird |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
at 20, everything feels..."zoomed in" |
| 01:44 |
NekoGloop |
i feel short |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
and the sun is HUGE |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
may just be because i was doing the other higher ones |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
oh, the sun, it be nighttime here |
| 01:45 |
* VanessaE |
tries 180 |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
cant seem to see the moon |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
weird, at 180 I'm upside down :-) |
| 01:46 |
NekoGloop |
huh? |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
seriously, it turned me upside down at that setting |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
clouds on bottom, the land at the top |
| 01:46 |
NekoGloop |
perhaps, these are numbers in spiraling outward degrees? |
| 01:47 |
NekoGloop |
or just entirely random effects 8) |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 01:47 |
LAD |
any 1 wana see a cool vidio?? |
| 01:47 |
NekoGloop |
someone ask celeron 8) |
| 01:47 |
NekoGloop |
my minetest is treating 180 == 360 for some reason... |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
anything 180+ for me is upside down |
| 01:48 |
NekoGloop |
huh |
| 01:48 |
NekoGloop |
perhaps my opengl can somehow correct it? |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
beats me |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
irrlicht bug no doubt :-) |
| 01:48 |
LAD |
oh |
| 01:49 |
LAD |
VE |
| 01:49 |
LAD |
coder told me to ask u this |
| 01:49 |
LAD |
what do the function on OldCoder's client do??? |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
the video filtering? |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
if you don't understand what they're for, they're not for you :-) |
| 01:49 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
he told me to ask u shen i see u |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
when* |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
those are for somewhat advanced users that know what to look for in video card settings |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
yea |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
uhh |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
my computer dous not actuly have a vidio crad |
| 01:50 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZnkzcw my. god. |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
all computers do. |
| 01:50 |
NekoGloop |
LAD: O.o |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
even if they're build in |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
hmm |
| 01:50 |
LAD |
its a realy bad 1 |
| 01:51 |
LAD |
cant even run minecraft |
| 01:51 |
LAD |
bairly minetest |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
LAD: those settings are primarily for people with really good video cards who like to run high-resolution textures |
| 01:51 |
LAD |
its 8 years old my computer |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
(so NekoGloop can't use them either ;) ) |
| 01:51 |
LAD |
yea ill just keep them off |
| 01:51 |
NekoGloop |
i can use them |
| 01:52 |
NekoGloop |
just only on default textures |
| 01:52 |
LAD |
well i can also |
| 01:52 |
NekoGloop |
8) |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
they help improve the video rendering to get rid of distance noise and artifacts. |
| 01:52 |
LAD |
but it leggs to beonde movement |
| 01:52 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
I run with aniso and mipmap turned on, bi/tri linear off |
| 01:52 |
LAD |
hmmm ok ok |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
leggs? |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
beonde? |
| 01:52 |
LAD |
ima just stick to all thous vidio settings off |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
get a spellchecked :-) |
| 01:52 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:53 |
LAD |
sorry |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
spellchecker too |
| 01:53 |
NekoGloop |
methinks he's lagging right now |
| 01:53 |
LAD |
no not right now |
| 01:53 |
LAD |
just when i tried the "advanced vidio" settings |
| 01:53 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
VIDEO damm it |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
video* |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
vee eye dee eee oh |
| 01:54 |
LAD |
just shut the HULL up |
| 01:54 |
LAD |
HELL* |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
HULL? |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
we in a spaceship now? |
| 01:54 |
LAD |
VAFFENCULO |
| 01:54 |
LAD |
TO SAY UN ASSINO |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
LAD: you realise we're just fucking with you, right? ;-) |
| 01:55 |
LAD |
IDC |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
realize* |
| 01:55 |
NekoGloop |
there is this button |
| 01:55 |
NekoGloop |
it is called caps lock |
| 01:55 |
NekoGloop |
legends say that pressing it can unlock the ability to type correctly |
| 01:55 |
LAD |
well u know what |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
LAD: relax, we're just playing :-) |
| 01:56 |
* LAD |
sais to shut your dam ass mouth b4 i shuve it up somewere unnice |
| 01:56 |
LAD |
idc is your just fucking with me it's not nice |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
LAD: jeez, get a sense of humor already |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
there are 9 words in that sentence spelled correctly. |
| 01:57 |
LAD |
u dont know y i type badly |
| 01:57 |
LAD |
so i would shutup |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
you were saying...? |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
AHAHAHA |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
HAHAHAHA |
| 01:57 |
LAD |
saying what |
| 01:58 |
NekoGloop |
(there, evil laugh complete) |
| 01:58 |
NekoGloop |
(now pay me for that wonderful intro) |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
LAD, there is no excuse whatsoever for poor typing unless you're just lazy, so if someone pokes fun at you for it, it's your own damn fault for creating the opportunity. |
| 01:58 |
LAD |
dont evil laughs start with muwhaha |
| 01:58 |
NekoGloop |
LAD: not neko-evil-laughs |
| 01:59 |
LAD |
VE just stop |
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| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
evening Octupus |
| 01:59 |
Octupus |
hi |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
LAD: I have 20 years' worth of online chat that says you're simply in the wrong here. |
| 02:00 |
LAD |
its not my fau1t i type bad |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
yes it is. |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
you can correct your mistakes. |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
you choose not to so do. |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
do so* |
| 02:01 |
LAD |
no i dun't |
| 02:01 |
LAD |
i try to |
| 02:01 |
NekoGloop |
look at your keyboard |
| 02:01 |
LAD |
i do |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
get a good IRC client that has a built-in spellchecker (xchat for example) |
| 02:02 |
NekoGloop |
are "1" and "l" even REMOTELY close to each other? |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
believe it, it helps. |
| 02:02 |
LAD |
just slop |
| 02:02 |
* VanessaE |
slops on some more commentary ;) |
| 02:02 |
* NekoGloop |
throws slop at LAD |
| 02:02 |
NekoGloop |
if anyone asks, he told me too :D |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
to* |
| 02:03 |
LAD |
its bacause l'n dyslexic ok there u happy |
| 02:03 |
LAD |
now shut up |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
if you were, you would have problems reading what we are saying |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
LAD: that's not a very good excuse, |
| 02:04 |
LAD |
uggg |
| 02:04 |
Octupus |
guys leave him alone |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
I speak very fluent caveman |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
LAD: whether you have dyslexia or not, your typing sucks because you don't care to improve it. |
| 02:05 |
LAD |
u have no idea what it like to be dyslkezlg |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
There's this simple rule: If the word has a squiggly red line under it, it is either not recognized or it is misspelled. Don't hit enter until you correct the mistakes. |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
someone remind me why i have terrariumblocks |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
i dunno |
| 02:06 |
LAD |
oh now u guys nice to me |
| 02:06 |
Octupus |
leave the kid alone he is has dyslexia |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
no one's being mean, LAD. |
| 02:06 |
Octupus |
Chheez |
| 02:06 |
LAD |
BS |
| 02:06 |
LAD |
VAFFENCULO |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
at least I'm not. |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
I'm just being the usual me |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
as am I. |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
making fun of things i find funny |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
well that's not my intent - I'm trying to help |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
without any regard to who might care 8) |
| 02:07 |
LAD |
ITS NUL MLGF |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
... wut |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
now how the hell do you expect us to understand that? |
| 02:07 |
LAD |
XD |
| 02:07 |
Octupus |
ik what he;s saying |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
DON'T HIT ENTER UNTIL YOU CORRECT YOUR MISTAKES. |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
hold on, I'm curious as to how google translate will say what that is |
| 02:08 |
Octupus |
lad what your mouth XD |
| 02:08 |
LAD |
thfy l00h 2 mf |
| 02:08 |
Octupus |
*watch |
| 02:08 |
|
LAD was kicked by VanessaE: LAD |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
it actually thought that was english |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
shows how much google translate knows |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: half the time, lately, Translate thinks everything I start with is English or at least not the language I actually entered. |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
"VAFFENCULO" is apparently spanish for "VAFFENCULO" |
| 02:10 |
Octupus |
Vanessa lad says he is very srry |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: so tell him to re /join |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
btw, has everyone gotten my hatches patch? |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: I will not put up with belligerence, especially when I'm trying to help him improve himself. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: no? |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
what patch? |
| 02:11 |
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| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
the one that makes opened hatches not be signlike |
| 02:11 |
Octupus |
ok vaneesa |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
Neko: ahh |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
you do have it? |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
I think you sent me that sometime ago, but I don't remember if I tested it out |
| 02:12 |
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| 02:12 |
LAD |
WTH |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
got a full mod I can try it out in? |
| 02:12 |
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| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
a full mod? |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
wut you mean :3 |
| 02:12 |
LAD |
VE what was that for i ask u in the most nicest from of gratitude |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
LAD: eh? |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
yeah, you know - something I can just download, install, and place a few hatches out of creative inventory :-) |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
you were using leetspeek |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: oh sure |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
one second |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
LAD: take a guess. |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
uhhh |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
hmmmm |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
idk |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
i get kicked |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
for ppl fucking with me |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
how dous that work |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
LAD: I was trying to show you how to improve yourself and instead you launch into a tirade. |
| 02:13 |
Octupus |
oh shit |
| 02:13 |
LAD |
picking on a kid way youger then u |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
uh lol? |
| 02:14 |
LAD |
hmm |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
I'm likely the youngest here |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
so shove it |
| 02:14 |
LAD |
so who should be geting kicked |
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| 02:14 |
LAD |
... |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
you, because you are the one making a scene here. |
| 02:14 |
LAD |
uhhh |
| 02:14 |
Octupus_ |
Oooooo |
| 02:14 |
LAD |
whp mad fun of my spelling?? |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
but I will refrain for now, since you got the point already. |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZnkzeg VanessaE |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
LAD: I was NOT making fun of it - I was *trying* to tell you how to improve it. |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: got it. |
| 02:15 |
LAD |
i cant |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
you can |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
you just choose not to. |
| 02:15 |
LAD |
uggg |
| 02:15 |
NekoGloop |
I'll go slap that on the forum for hatches |
| 02:15 |
Octupus_ |
Don't make lad mad he make me mad then il go apeshit on random ppl |
| 02:15 |
LAD |
u cant help dyslexia |
| 02:15 |
Octupus_ |
:l |
| 02:15 |
Octupus_ |
A fair warning |
| 02:16 |
LAD |
sometimes u spell bad things and sometim it good |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
LAD: Dyslexia does not force you to hit enter before correcting your mistakes. |
| 02:16 |
LAD |
ive tought my self to spell bette rthen the average dyslexia |
| 02:16 |
LAD |
yea |
| 02:16 |
LAD |
but it make me see letters diferntly |
| 02:17 |
LAD |
so it looks normel to me but u its messed |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
LAD: yes I know that - I am well aware of what dyslexia does to some people. |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
which is why I told you to get a better IRC client - one with a built-in spellchecker. Xchat does this. |
| 02:17 |
LAD |
it wont work |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
that way you can see your mistakes before you hit enter. |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
why won't it work? |
| 02:18 |
LAD |
i'll just read the corrfct form wrong |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
*bzzt* wrong. |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
again |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
as I said like twice now: |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
it TELLS YOU if a word is wrong. |
| 02:18 |
Octupus |
Leave the boy a fucking lone |
| 02:18 |
LAD |
u can't help me |
| 02:18 |
LAD |
god |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
"the boy" needs to learn. |
| 02:18 |
NakedFury |
finished my pyramid!! |
| 02:18 |
LAD |
u know ive never writen a essay my self |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
LAD: it will tell you that the word is wrong by putting a red line under the word. |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: can i see? :3 |
| 02:19 |
LAD |
i know |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
and it will let you pick a correct word to replace it from a menu |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48288#p48288 |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
(assuming it can figure out what you might have meant( |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 02:19 |
Octupus |
:l |
| 02:19 |
LAD |
but in the nfno i ready hte wrong |
| 02:19 |
Octupus |
That wasn't nice vanessa |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
neither was it mean |
| 02:19 |
NakedFury |
http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/6vEVEa5OI |
| 02:19 |
LAD |
fuck u |
| 02:20 |
NakedFury |
3 high and 3 wide |
| 02:20 |
Octupus |
To me? |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: it's a computer - they aren't that good at figuring out plain language. |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
that was a knock on the computer program, not LAD. |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
you need to lighten up. |
| 02:20 |
NekoGloop |
I cant tell, are those dokutest textures? |
| 02:20 |
Octupus |
Me HA |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: seems to work well |
| 02:21 |
NakedFury |
its in minetest.org 30000 |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: you are the one threatening to "go apeshit on random ppl" |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
also they're climbable when open |
| 02:21 |
NakedFury |
in the next few days I will start the city surrounding it |
| 02:21 |
Octupus |
If lad gets me angry |
| 02:21 |
Octupus |
If u get him angry |
| 02:21 |
* LAD |
is now iggnoring |
| 02:22 |
Octupus |
XD |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: suggestion - use multiple nodeboxes for each of the pieces of the hatch |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: suggestion - do it thyself |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: you will keep your temper in check if you want to stay in this channel. |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: too lazy :-) |
| 02:22 |
Octupus |
Ok |
| 02:22 |
Octupus |
:) |
| 02:22 |
LAD |
on a scale of 1-10 of bitchs every 1 is a 5 or up ecspet for me octu and Coder |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Octupus: remember who wields the mighty "@" symbol |
| 02:23 |
Octupus |
Ok |
| 02:23 |
Octupus |
:l |
| 02:23 |
LAD |
@ |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
And I am not quick to use it either - which means if I kick you, it's because you seriously fucked up. |
| 02:23 |
LAD |
hmmf |
| 02:23 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: may i ask, why are desert things textured the same as normal sand/ sandstone? |
| 02:23 |
Octupus |
Ok |
| 02:24 |
NakedFury |
because dokucraft doesnt have any other sand type so I just made it darker |
| 02:24 |
NekoGloop |
maybe make it redder as well |
| 02:24 |
NakedFury |
redder? |
| 02:24 |
NekoGloop |
more orange-y |
| 02:24 |
NakedFury |
ok ill work on that |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I may need your help later for some testing (not tonight - maybe after Monday).. you kinda bitched and whined about the tabletops ;) so I'm going to convert them to nodeboxes, but I want to see how much detail I can get into those round ones (read: how round I can make them) |
| 02:25 |
NekoGloop |
like the normal desert sand and stone |
| 02:25 |
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| 02:25 |
MiJyn |
hi LAD |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
evening RealBadAngel. |
| 02:25 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: see Jeija's irregular nodeboxes, just lower the detail |
| 02:25 |
LAD |
MJ PM |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I know about those - that's how I got the round brass pole in homedecor. |
| 02:26 |
Octupus |
LAd u want that og kush :) |
| 02:26 |
LAD |
XD hell yea |
| 02:26 |
NekoGloop |
it's round? :D |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
but I have a different idea in mind - overlapping nodeboxes would cut the total number used in half, assuming I understand his code. |
| 02:26 |
Octupus |
XD |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
yup, it's far rounder than c55 thought it could have been :) |
| 02:26 |
Octupus |
Ppl seem grumpy tonight |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
is it just me, or is oldcoder's build suddenly about 50% crashier? |
| 02:28 |
NakedFury |
not for me |
| 02:28 |
NakedFury |
no crashes even when messing with worldedit |
| 02:28 |
NakedFury |
and fast load |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
well i didnt just disconnect; i completely crashed right then |
| 02:28 |
Octupus |
O |
| 02:29 |
Octupus |
G |
| 02:29 |
Octupus |
Kush |
| 02:30 |
NakedFury |
god damn asian drama shows about food |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 02:30 |
Octupus |
T Raw |
| 02:31 |
Octupus |
I wonder if the ban hammer will hit me tonight not like I business |
| 02:31 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: PLEASE make the hand not look so stupid |
| 02:32 |
NakedFury |
im trying. I want to bring the default doku character texture but it looks weird in the folders and I dont know how to make it. still a noob in some part of texturing |
| 02:33 |
NakedFury |
make new textures? not possible. edit lightly current ones? yes heavy edits? no |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
then at LEAST leave it as the default one for now |
| 02:34 |
NekoGloop |
at certain points, there should be stairs in the pyramid to allow you to scale irt |
| 02:35 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 02:35 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 02:35 |
NakedFury |
im thinking of making glass walls to see the interior |
| 02:35 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Where is this happening? |
| 02:35 |
NakedFury |
and its high to allow cables or tubes |
| 02:35 |
OldCoder |
And it's probably the world |
| 02:35 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, details if possible |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: yeah, seems to just be the server |
| 02:36 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, which world? |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
30000 |
| 02:36 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, there may be fewer crashes for some worlds now |
| 02:36 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, But I am having a *lot* of trouble with that map |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
remind me why we have ambience? |
| 02:36 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I went back to a week ago. If there are still problems... |
| 02:36 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Because iqual* and others were strongly in favor of it |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, My new clients... |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, will include the cache so be faster. AND... |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
ambience just makes lag lag lag and more lad |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
lag* |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
not lad |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I will ask VanessaE to help me with a checkbox |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
To turn it off |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
Will that be satisfactory? |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, if there is a checkbox to turn it off will this help? |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
turn what off |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
ambience? |
| 02:38 |
Octupus |
Coder ##minetest-m13 |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
or sound entirely? |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, O.K. |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, whatever you wish |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
I just wanna build |
| 02:39 |
NekoGloop |
without lagging to the point that i cant even place a single node without placing it millions of time |
| 02:39 |
NekoGloop |
normal sounds are fine |
| 02:39 |
NekoGloop |
constant sounds? not so much |
| 02:43 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: the crash: http://pastebin.com/t4SS5qxG |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, ty |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I think we need to delete that world |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
Let me review |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
I can reset right now |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I will glance at the server logs |
| 02:44 |
NekoGloop |
what is wrong with it? |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I am reviewing |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
02:44:16: ERROR[ServerThread]: Item "throwing:bow_stone" not defined |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
That probably is not it |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, How long ago was most recent crash? |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, you here? |
| 02:46 |
NekoGloop |
half an hour |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
yes |
| 02:46 |
NekoGloop |
but it was clientside |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
adding glass to pyramid |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, NekoGloop We went back a week |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Hmm |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
OldCoder I havent crashed since hours ago |
| 02:46 |
NekoGloop |
your client and this server |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Assertion failure |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, have you tried my client? |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, You said it works? |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
every since you added the priviledges no crash. havent logged off either |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
yes I am using it |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 02:47 |
NakedFury |
the 30mb version |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, In conclusive. What other problems have you seen? |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
none |
| 02:47 |
NakedFury |
and i have been fooling with worldedit to see if it crashes |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
One crash then |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
other than slight lag with the ambience |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
but ambience being a cpu-hog is normal |
| 02:48 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, We'll look into turning it off |
| 02:48 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 02:48 |
NekoGloop |
can i have fly and worldedit in 30000? |
| 02:49 |
NekoGloop |
give as well, please |
| 02:49 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: ^ |
| 02:49 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Yes |
| 02:49 |
OldCoder |
In 15 minutes if you remind me |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Mithril should have Lapis Lazuli texture |
| 02:56 |
Octupus |
M |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
I am planning to edit ores to have at least as much as possible unique textures |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
so if color is similar it wont matter because the way it is arranged is different |
| 02:59 |
NakedFury |
and I found animated doku torches with a total of 64 frames |
| 02:59 |
NakedFury |
gonna be a nightmare to edit them for all 3 versions but will do it |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
there. one closet cleared out...and now the former contents thereof are stacked up on my desk :-S |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
(our computer room is the only room left to be packed up) |
| 03:06 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: been 15 mins ;) |
| 03:15 |
NekoGloop |
good night people |
| 03:28 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all and good morning minetest :) |
| 03:29 |
MiJyn |
hi RBA |
| 03:29 |
MiJyn |
I need to talk to jordach... |
| 03:29 |
tripod_ |
HI RBA |
| 03:29 |
* VanessaE |
pokes RealBadAngel |
| 03:29 |
* RealSexyDevil |
eats RealBadAngel |
| 03:29 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 03:30 |
RealSexyDevil |
sup other half |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 03:30 |
RealBadAngel |
whats up VanessaE ? |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
not much here, just resting a bit from going nutz :-) |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
(I'll finish going nutz later tonight) |
| 03:30 |
MiJyn |
with what? |
| 03:31 |
RealBadAngel |
is it just me or minetest.net is lagged? |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
the forums? seemed okay to me earlier |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn: with what, what? |
| 03:33 |
MiJyn |
VanesaE, the "nutz" part :P |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
hrm, you're right, all of a sudden it is getting kinda slow. |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn: moving to a new home. I've been going nutz (nuts, crazy) packing |
| 03:35 |
MiJyn |
oh |
| 03:35 |
MiJyn |
nice |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
so now my desk here is loaded down with a bunch of crap that used to be in the closet, so it can be properly packed up later. |
| 03:38 |
OldCoder |
High |
| 03:38 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop is right! |
| 03:38 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 03:39 |
RealBadAngel |
dammit, Calinou updated stairs+ with modname prefix support |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
well you did suggest it to him :-) |
| 03:39 |
RealBadAngel |
but left half of hardcoded "stairsplus" prefixes |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 03:39 |
RealBadAngel |
in all recipes |
| 03:41 |
RealBadAngel |
drop = also have stairsplus in them |
| 03:42 |
RealBadAngel |
that how ends choosing elegant way rather than easy and working one |
| 03:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i suggested only adding ":" in a few definitions to get it rolling, but then neko came with "modname" parameter and both fucked up everythin |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
now now RBA |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
"boy (n.) 1. Noise with dirt on it." |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
(image on my husband's facebook tab_ |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 03:50 |
* VanessaE |
looks at all the junk piled on her desk and whimpers |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
anyone feel like coming over and helping us pack? :-) |
| 03:52 |
RealBadAngel |
use TNT gonna be faster ;) |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 03:53 |
RealBadAngel |
damn, modname parameter shall be passed to register_craft functions also |
| 03:53 |
RealBadAngel |
they really fucked it up |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
so fix it and send calinou the result? |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 03:54 |
RealBadAngel |
and the other thing comes in mind |
| 03:54 |
RealBadAngel |
when stairs will be registered with modname |
| 03:55 |
RealBadAngel |
in creative we gonna have extra stairs slabs etc spreaded all over the inventory |
| 03:55 |
RealBadAngel |
instead of havin all of them in one pile |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
which is why I think creative inventory needs categories |
| 03:56 |
RealBadAngel |
agreed, should be sorted |
| 03:56 |
RealBadAngel |
but how to automate it? |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
a dropdown to select which mod to look through plus an "all" category |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
or a listbox |
| 03:56 |
RealBadAngel |
dont tell me by "modname" parameter lol |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
well no, but by mod name in general - default, bucket, etc. |
| 03:57 |
RealBadAngel |
you just did |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
ok fine :-) |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
how else would you do it? |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
maybe a filter? |
| 03:57 |
RealBadAngel |
thats a good idea here |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
a field you can type into to select by regexp or something |
| 03:57 |
NakedFury |
for creative ideas just check out Too Many Items or Not enough items for minecraft |
| 03:57 |
RealBadAngel |
but again you wont get all the stairs in one place |
| 03:57 |
NakedFury |
it shows THE PERFECT way to do it |
| 03:57 |
RealBadAngel |
thx to neko's invention |
| 03:58 |
RealBadAngel |
im not gonna use their version |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
yeah but how would you expect to gather them all in one place and still properly be associated with each mod that registers new stairs? |
| 03:58 |
RealBadAngel |
":" is the right way to do that |
| 03:59 |
RealBadAngel |
if we use ":" then all the stairs will belong to stairsplus no matter what mod registered them |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 03:59 |
RealBadAngel |
and filtering will show proper reuslts |
| 03:59 |
RealBadAngel |
just all the stairs |
| 04:00 |
RealBadAngel |
and not missing technic registered stairs |
| 04:02 |
RealBadAngel |
but one thing has to be done for my new creative inventory |
| 04:02 |
RealBadAngel |
tooltips have to be added for image_button |
| 04:02 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:03 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, tested. like a charm |
| 04:03 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:03 |
OldCoder |
Glad |
| 04:03 |
RealBadAngel |
you can update US then |
| 04:03 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:04 |
OldCoder |
As soon as I give NekoGloop his privs; I promised |
| 04:04 |
RealBadAngel |
when you will see him, kick him in the butt |
| 04:04 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 04:04 |
RealBadAngel |
he will know why |
| 04:04 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 04:04 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds going down shortly just briefly for Technic |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
Anybody else have an update? |
| 04:05 |
RealBadAngel |
for his idea of adding "modname" parameter to stairsplus |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, is your version still good/ |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 04:05 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:05 |
RealBadAngel |
mine is the right one and i will force it to stay |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
Merge your changes back |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
Speak to author |
| 04:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i will |
| 04:06 |
RealBadAngel |
writin forum post bout it right now |
| 04:07 |
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| 04:07 |
Octupus |
hi |
| 04:08 |
RealSexyDevil |
hi |
| 04:08 |
tripod |
hi |
| 04:11 |
NakedFury |
how to do corner stairs? |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
M M M |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
- M M |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
- - M |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
M = some material |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
those are wall stairs actually |
| 04:12 |
RealBadAngel |
posted |
| 04:12 |
NakedFury |
not that version. floor version for corner |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
corner stairs, put one microblock above a slab |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
or put a microblock to the left of a regular stair |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
(depending on which type of corner stair you need) |
| 04:14 |
NakedFury |
im struggling to make a nice pyramid entrance but its not working |
| 04:15 |
NakedFury |
actually I need more stone types and desert stone types |
| 04:15 |
RealBadAngel |
i just thought bout nice machine. kinda sticky piston/node breaker/deplyoer in one |
| 04:16 |
RealBadAngel |
put the node into inventory, of any kind |
| 04:16 |
RealBadAngel |
with mesecon signal deploy it in front |
| 04:16 |
NakedFury |
be inspire by the tremor beasts and make one like that |
| 04:16 |
RealBadAngel |
next signal break it |
| 04:16 |
RealBadAngel |
and loop |
| 04:17 |
RealBadAngel |
could be used to make doors or walls workin on push the button |
| 04:17 |
OldCoder |
Oops |
| 04:17 |
NakedFury |
idea: node breaker + engine + chest = tunneling machine |
| 04:18 |
OldCoder |
I am tired and forgot to rebuild |
| 04:18 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, U.S. worlds cycling |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: how will you handle if the user gets stupid and placed a lava source? ;) |
| 04:18 |
RealBadAngel |
and be smaller in size than with the pistons |
| 04:18 |
RealBadAngel |
nodes not the liquids :) |
| 04:19 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm, how to call such a machine? anybody has an idea? |
| 04:19 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds restarted |
| 04:19 |
OldCoder |
With new Technic |
| 04:19 |
RealBadAngel |
deplobreaker? :) |
| 04:19 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, ^ |
| 04:19 |
RealBadAngel |
k |
| 04:19 |
OldCoder |
Test and be amazed |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: Block manipulator |
| 04:19 |
OldCoder |
By the wonders of Technic |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
naw too generic |
| 04:20 |
NakedFury |
Nodipulator? |
| 04:20 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 04:22 |
RealBadAngel |
is there a t-flip_flop built in mesecons? |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
µC can do that |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
there's a programming shortcut for them |
| 04:22 |
RealBadAngel |
such stuff shall be used then with nodipulator |
| 04:23 |
RealBadAngel |
to make a workin doors |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
or if you're really ambitious, you could build a multivibrator from a few NAND gates ;) |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
or something |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
I'm too tired :) |
| 04:24 |
RealBadAngel |
told ya, tnt. you wont be then so tired and will have lotsa of spare time ;) |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
bbl. time to try to sleep, speaking of which. |
| 04:24 |
OldCoder |
night |
| 04:25 |
RealBadAngel |
good night VanessaE |
| 04:26 |
RealBadAngel |
any other ideas for the name? |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
Name? |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 04:27 |
RealBadAngel |
of the nodebreaker and deployer in one |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:28 |
RealBadAngel |
got the idea for craftin it tho, it shall be just nodebreaker + deployer in crafting grid :) |
| 04:29 |
RealBadAngel |
and i think i will make it to work for 2 nodes in front of it |
| 04:29 |
NakedFury |
you have to move it? |
| 04:30 |
RealBadAngel |
it will allow to easily make 4 nodes wide entrances |
| 04:30 |
RealBadAngel |
no, not movin |
| 04:31 |
RealBadAngel |
just operational in 2 nodes in face directions |
| 04:31 |
RealBadAngel |
what about the "Constructor"? |
| 04:32 |
NakedFury |
can it build? |
| 04:32 |
NakedFury |
construct? |
| 04:32 |
RealBadAngel |
in fact yes |
| 04:32 |
RealBadAngel |
imagine hidden huge doors in mointan walls out of it |
| 04:32 |
NakedFury |
then try using the name, if you dont like it later RENAME!!!!! |
| 04:33 |
RealBadAngel |
2 on the left, 2 on the right side |
| 04:33 |
RealBadAngel |
4 on top |
| 04:33 |
RealBadAngel |
that will make 4x6 nodes big entrace |
| 04:34 |
RealBadAngel |
just by pressing the button |
| 04:35 |
RealBadAngel |
make the switch usable by the placer only |
| 04:35 |
RealBadAngel |
and you can have impressive entrace to your cave. usable only by you |
| 04:36 |
RealBadAngel |
ha, improved the idea |
| 04:37 |
RealBadAngel |
nodebreaker+deployer will give constructor workin for 1 node just |
| 04:37 |
RealBadAngel |
2 constructors in crafting grid will make version for 2 nodes |
| 04:37 |
RealBadAngel |
again for 3 nodes |
| 04:38 |
RealBadAngel |
so Constructor MK1, MK2 and MK3 |
| 04:39 |
RealBadAngel |
damn me. i need lotsa of textures lmao |
| 04:39 |
NakedFury |
yes |
| 04:39 |
NakedFury |
you could recycle textures |
| 04:39 |
NakedFury |
like sides |
| 04:39 |
NakedFury |
if possible |
| 04:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i will make MKs by colors just |
| 04:39 |
RealBadAngel |
like red green blue |
| 04:40 |
RealBadAngel |
just need to make base textures |
| 04:42 |
RealBadAngel |
lets check NP smooth texture pack if theres somethin usable for the project |
| 04:42 |
NakedFury |
there always is |
| 04:43 |
NakedFury |
some just need small edits |
| 04:44 |
RealBadAngel |
got it, lets gimp it :) |
| 04:45 |
NakedFury |
for example I think original tchnic battery textures are crap |
| 04:45 |
NakedFury |
I mean completely white with a colored circle in the middle? |
| 04:45 |
NakedFury |
crap |
| 04:45 |
NakedFury |
I like yours |
| 04:46 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre not mine |
| 04:46 |
NakedFury |
well theo nes you are using |
| 04:46 |
RealBadAngel |
its NP Smooth TP |
| 04:46 |
RealBadAngel |
this abandoned |
| 04:46 |
RealBadAngel |
pity but good for me |
| 04:47 |
RealBadAngel |
gave me a source of excellent free textures |
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OldCoder |
anunakki, hi! |
| 04:47 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, we have not talked BSD recently |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
Next week feel free to do so |
| 04:48 |
RealBadAngel |
try talkin HEX then ;) |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
Hehx |
| 04:48 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 04:51 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, You have not talked much recently |
| 04:51 |
OldCoder |
Present? |
| 04:51 |
hmmmm |
jesus christ, OldCoder has no life |
| 04:51 |
RealBadAngel |
could be like: |
| 04:51 |
RealBadAngel |
how #52 #55 #3f #0d |
| 04:51 |
OldCoder |
yes |
| 04:52 |
RealBadAngel |
in translation: how R U ? <carriage return> |
| 04:52 |
OldCoder |
yes |
| 04:52 |
OldCoder |
I see the #0d |
| 04:53 |
anunakki |
iyea |
| 04:53 |
anunakki |
sorry i've just been busy |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
That is normal |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
Hope things are O.K. |
| 04:55 |
NakedFury |
cant connect. stuck at connecting |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
Which world? |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
Cycled? |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
| 04:55 |
NakedFury |
the one i play on most |
| 04:55 |
NakedFury |
30k |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
30k |
| 04:55 |
OldCoder |
om |
| 04:56 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 04:56 |
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| 04:56 |
M13 |
OldCoder |
| 04:56 |
OldCoder |
M13, wait |
| 04:56 |
M13 |
go ##oldcoder |
| 04:56 |
OldCoder |
M13, wait |
| 04:56 |
M13 |
when ur done |
| 04:56 |
M13 |
srry |
| 04:59 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I don't think it crashed |
| 04:59 |
OldCoder |
I am seeing a SIGINT |
| 04:59 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
| 04:59 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 04:59 |
OldCoder |
That is odd |
| 04:59 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 04:59 |
hmmmm |
do you think you can, you know, stop hitting the fucking enter key so much? |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
|
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, try now |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I am quite tired and may have made a mistake earlier |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
Try and see if it works |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
If there is a problem |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
May be the Technic update |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
Let me know |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
|
| 05:01 |
NakedFury |
ok online now |
| 05:04 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:05 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I saw the worlds shut down due to SIGINT |
| 05:05 |
OldCoder |
All of them |
| 05:05 |
OldCoder |
I may have started them before incorrectly |
| 05:05 |
OldCoder |
Regardless |
| 05:05 |
OldCoder |
See how it goes this weekend |
| 05:05 |
OldCoder |
I will keep changes to a minimum |
| 05:16 |
OldCoder |
|
| 05:16 |
OldCoder |
All developers: I am accepting MT server or client patches in diff -ruN format. |
| 05:17 |
OldCoder |
This is not quite a fork. I will try to remain synchronized with upstream and possibly some of the forks. |
| 05:23 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, technic is not the reason. EU with the update is alive and kickin |
| 05:23 |
OldCoder |
You are correct RealBadAngel |
| 05:23 |
RealBadAngel |
preparing next update, with the Constructor |
| 05:24 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, we await the update with delight |
| 05:24 |
M13 |
OldCoder PM |
| 05:24 |
RealBadAngel |
gonna take a while, need to prepare lotsa textures |
| 05:24 |
M13 |
please |
| 05:24 |
OldCoder |
M13, k |
| 05:24 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I will be awake about half an hour |
| 05:24 |
OldCoder |
M13, k |
| 05:24 |
RealBadAngel |
not gonna be ready then, we will leave the update for later then |
| 05:25 |
RealBadAngel |
i need to test the new feature anyway |
| 05:27 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
oldcoder there gonna be one quick update to technic |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
in a few minutes |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
or other way |
| 05:34 |
RealBadAngel |
can you give me the link to the snow mod used on the servers? |
| 05:35 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:35 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, yes |
| 05:35 |
OldCoder |
to both |
| 05:35 |
OldCoder |
hold on |
| 05:35 |
RealBadAngel |
im gonna add stairs etc made of ice |
| 05:35 |
OldCoder |
|
| 05:36 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/snow.zip |
| 05:36 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, *All* the mods |
| 05:36 |
OldCoder |
will go online soon |
| 05:36 |
OldCoder |
My versions |
| 05:36 |
OldCoder |
There is the snow |
| 05:38 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, maybe you should test that |
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* M13 |
is Going to bed :P |
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| 05:41 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, http://realbadangel.pl/snow.zip |
| 05:41 |
RealBadAngel |
updated snow |
| 05:41 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:41 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 05:41 |
RealBadAngel |
please install it on EU |
| 05:41 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, snow? Not technic? |
| 05:41 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:41 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 05:41 |
OldCoder |
om |
| 05:41 |
RealBadAngel |
added stairs+ registration call to it |
| 05:42 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 05:43 |
OldCoder |
om |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
No dice |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
Deathworld |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
hold on |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
error? |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
hold on |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
Oops |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
Tried to edit the log file |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
Huge |
| 05:44 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 05:45 |
OldCoder |
07:45:51: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/snow/init.lua: |
| 05:45 |
OldCoder |
07:45:51: ERROR[main]: ...hare/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/snow/init.lua:271: attempt to index global 'stairsplus' (a nil value) |
| 05:45 |
OldCoder |
07:45:51: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
| 05:45 |
OldCoder |
07:45:51: ERROR[main]: ...hare/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/snow/init.lua:271: in main chunk |
| 05:45 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 05:46 |
OldCoder |
|
| 05:46 |
OldCoder |
No comment |
| 05:46 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, ^ |
| 05:46 |
RealBadAngel |
got it |
| 05:47 |
RealBadAngel |
fix on its way |
| 05:47 |
OldCoder |
I must sleep |
| 05:47 |
RealBadAngel |
redownload |
| 05:47 |
RealBadAngel |
its done |
| 05:47 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/snow.zip |
| 05:48 |
OldCoder |
nope |
| 05:48 |
RealBadAngel |
and checked this time |
| 05:48 |
OldCoder |
x_x |
| 05:48 |
OldCoder |
^ world |
| 05:48 |
OldCoder |
world is all dead |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
i will rename file |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
Can't you test this locally? |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
you must be caching old one |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
stop |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
no |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
but |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
wait |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/snow1.zip |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
tested on local server |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
wait |
| 05:49 |
OldCoder |
wait |
| 05:50 |
RealBadAngel |
its working |
| 05:50 |
OldCoder |
wait |
| 05:50 |
OldCoder |
stop |
| 05:50 |
OldCoder |
stop |
| 05:50 |
OldCoder |
wait |
| 05:50 |
RealBadAngel |
ok ok :) |
| 05:51 |
OldCoder |
try now |
| 05:51 |
RealBadAngel |
k |
| 05:51 |
OldCoder |
I am asleep |
| 05:51 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 05:51 |
OldCoder |
<--- he is x_x |
| 05:52 |
RealBadAngel |
lemme check first :) |
| 05:52 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 05:52 |
RealBadAngel |
connecting |
| 05:53 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, youre free to "Zzz" now :) |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:53 |
RealBadAngel |
all works like a charm :) |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
kzzzzzz |
| 05:53 |
RealBadAngel |
thanks |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
fine |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
talk to the mod authors |
| 05:53 |
RealBadAngel |
sure |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
get your changes merged if they are willing |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
if not |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
we will use your versssionsnsszzz |
| 05:53 |
OldCoder |
zzz |
| 05:56 |
RealBadAngel |
if not i will make a modpack |
| 05:56 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:56 |
OldCoder |
gd |
| 05:56 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 05:56 |
OldCoder |
gn |
| 05:56 |
OldCoder |
rba |
| 05:56 |
OldCoder |
zzz |
| 05:56 |
RealBadAngel |
night OldCoder |
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RealBadAngel |
wb Calinou |
| 06:22 |
RealBadAngel |
read my post regarding stairsplus please |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
the idea with "modpack" parameter was a mistake i think |
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| 06:24 |
Calinou |
the stable release of the mod isn't a modpack, only the git repo |
| 06:24 |
Calinou |
cbf to make one repo per mod |
| 06:25 |
RealBadAngel |
im using the way i proposed, and now on EU server we do have technic, snow mod made stairs |
| 06:25 |
RealBadAngel |
all under stairsplus naming |
| 06:26 |
RealBadAngel |
when it will get filltered we could have all the stairs etc in one place |
| 06:28 |
Calinou |
there, used the modname parameter everywhere |
| 06:28 |
RealBadAngel |
not gonna like this solution |
| 06:28 |
RealBadAngel |
it will make mess in inventory |
| 06:29 |
RealBadAngel |
instead of havin all types of nodes in groups, there will be just a mess |
| 06:30 |
RealBadAngel |
why do you and neko are forcing the solutions that are harder to make and doin just a mess? |
| 06:30 |
RealBadAngel |
i cannot understand it |
| 06:32 |
RealBadAngel |
you told it took for ya 30 minutes to make, you made it wrong. missed lotsa definitions |
| 06:33 |
RealBadAngel |
i did workin and sensible workin one in 1 minute or so |
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| 06:34 |
RealBadAngel |
please rethink the idea |
| 06:35 |
Calinou |
"fixes" committed for now |
| 06:35 |
Calinou |
ctrl+h ftw |
| 06:35 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: try again now |
| 06:36 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah, i can see you are stuck with modname |
| 06:36 |
RealBadAngel |
you just made creative fucked up |
| 06:36 |
RealBadAngel |
thanks |
| 06:36 |
RealBadAngel |
glad you have read what i wrote |
| 06:37 |
Calinou |
people actually use creative? |
| 06:37 |
* Calinou |
never uses it :P |
| 06:37 |
Calinou |
gonna play creative and see |
| 06:37 |
RealBadAngel |
youre not alone here |
| 06:37 |
RealBadAngel |
i did |
| 06:38 |
RealBadAngel |
i made the changes to your way long before you did |
| 06:38 |
RealBadAngel |
and compared the results |
| 06:38 |
RealBadAngel |
server nexus has it workin my way and it gonna stay |
| 06:38 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry |
| 06:51 |
Calinou |
creative inventory does have duplicates, I wonder why, I think I should just remove the stairs/slabs from inventory |
| 06:51 |
Calinou |
clogs it up |
| 06:55 |
RealBadAngel |
its not about duplicates |
| 06:55 |
RealBadAngel |
its about sorting the items |
| 06:55 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre sorted by modname |
| 06:56 |
RealBadAngel |
then when i apply "stairsplus" filter i could get all the extra blocks |
| 06:56 |
RealBadAngel |
then mesecons, or technic |
| 06:56 |
RealBadAngel |
that will be huge improvement for creative |
| 06:57 |
RealBadAngel |
therefore no point to remove them from creative |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
please wait a day or two when im done with my creative implementation and you will judge for yourself, deal? |
| 07:10 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, theyre still light bugged btw. http://realbadangel.pl/ice.png |
| 07:23 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, have you read the conversation? |
| 07:23 |
sfan5 |
which one? |
| 07:23 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou and me |
| 07:24 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: nodeboxes do not support smooth lighting |
| 07:24 |
Calinou |
workaround: if you're OCD, disable smooth lighting :> |
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RealBadAngel |
pskosinski, czesc |
| 07:38 |
RealBadAngel |
mozesz mi powiedziec czemu jeszcze cie nie ma na europe.minetest.org:30000 ? |
| 07:40 |
NakedFury |
what is the name for /giveme stairplus:stair_ desert stone stairs? stair_desert_stone? |
| 07:40 |
Calinou |
yep |
| 07:40 |
RealBadAngel |
are they defined already? |
| 07:40 |
Calinou |
blame giveme for not completing :| |
| 07:41 |
NakedFury |
this one? /giveme stairplus:stair_desert_stone or finishing with _stone_stairs? |
| 07:42 |
NakedFury |
either versions wont work |
| 07:43 |
Calinou |
stairsplus |
| 07:43 |
Calinou |
/giveme stairsplus:stair_desert_stone |
| 07:43 |
NakedFury |
testing |
| 07:44 |
NakedFury |
mother flower it works but I wanted slabs so I just change stair_ to slab_? |
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| 07:47 |
RealBadAngel |
/giveme stairsplus:slab_desert_stone |
| 07:47 |
NakedFury |
did it |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
YES |
| 07:48 |
NakedFury |
now making macros so I dont have to keep typing pulverize or //p set or some of the others |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
YES YES YES YES YES YES YE SYES YES |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
:D |
| 07:48 |
NakedFury |
god worldedit needs a wand item |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
I FOUND A PC I COULD USE PUTTY ON |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
FINALLY :D |
| 07:48 |
anunnaki |
should all join europe.minetest.org 30000 and build as much as you can! :P |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
Well I will join you guys later |
| 07:48 |
TheRedMood |
anunnaki: I will, but I can't on this computer. |
| 07:49 |
RealBadAngel |
on nexus it works also with ice from snow mod and technic marble and granite |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
going to eat |
| 07:49 |
anunnaki |
sounds good to me |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
anunnaki: Let me hop on later |
| 07:49 |
anunnaki |
alright |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
And also |
| 07:49 |
anunnaki |
i'll most likely be on |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
I am the dude who is making redsand |
| 07:49 |
anunnaki |
nice |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
And if you ever need some command for administrating or making servers more enjoyfull |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
please tell me |
| 07:49 |
anunnaki |
alright |
| 07:49 |
TheRedMood |
I hae yet to merge te unstable and stable branch on git |
| 07:50 |
TheRedMood |
So things like |
| 07:50 |
anunnaki |
will do |
| 07:50 |
anunnaki |
i'm also going to be making my own mods etc.. and helping out as much as i can |
| 07:50 |
TheRedMood |
Is not in yet |
| 07:50 |
RealBadAngel |
TheRedMood, here after 10 minutes everybody knows who is responsible for something ;) |
| 07:50 |
anunnaki |
i just need to get to know the game a little more |
| 07:50 |
TheRedMood |
./heal, /hurt, /kill (agmented) and /sethealth |
| 07:50 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: Oh, Okey :) |
| 07:50 |
Calinou |
1635 textures in misa pack now |
| 07:50 |
Calinou |
new version with improved mesecons support :) |
| 07:50 |
RealBadAngel |
jesus christ superstar |
| 07:51 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: I just want to get as much feedback as I can possible |
| 07:51 |
TheRedMood |
So that I can make the mod better |
| 07:51 |
RealBadAngel |
mine only has 270 textures lmao |
| 07:51 |
RealBadAngel |
it covers only default, technic and ALL of your mods Calinou |
| 07:52 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: did you hear that OldCoder is pushing a new version? |
| 07:52 |
RealBadAngel |
and you wont listen to me |
| 07:52 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: That means we ann al start making more API hooks :D |
| 07:52 |
* RealBadAngel |
sadface |
| 07:52 |
* TheRedMood |
hugs RealBadAngel |
| 07:52 |
TheRedMood |
It is allright :D |
| 07:52 |
TheRedMood |
he is just busy thats all! |
| 07:52 |
TheRedMood |
Now smile :D |
| 07:52 |
* RealBadAngel |
smiles |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
That is god |
| 07:53 |
* TheRedMood |
lets go of RealBadAngel |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
Now then |
| 07:53 |
RealBadAngel |
god? |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
Do you guys know the wonders of tmux`? |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
good* |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
I am bad with english, sir. |
| 07:53 |
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| 07:53 |
RealBadAngel |
no problemo sir |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
:) |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
NEKO! |
| 07:53 |
TheRedMood |
:D |
| 07:54 |
RealBadAngel |
what are ur origins? |
| 07:54 |
TheRedMood |
Norway, sir- |
| 07:54 |
TheRedMood |
But right now I am in stockholm, sweden. |
| 07:54 |
RealBadAngel |
pretty close |
| 07:54 |
TheRedMood |
I am attending a wedding here |
| 07:54 |
RealBadAngel |
just to swim the baltic sea |
| 07:54 |
TheRedMood |
Therfor the joy over getting a pc here which I can run putty from |
| 07:55 |
TheRedMood |
You must excuse my bad geography, sir, but where would tht be? |
| 07:55 |
anunnaki |
so |
| 07:55 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 07:55 |
RealBadAngel |
look at the map |
| 07:55 |
RealBadAngel |
poland here |
| 07:55 |
anunnaki |
i have a few questions for some of you guys who develop |
| 07:55 |
RealBadAngel |
shoot |
| 07:55 |
anunnaki |
what kind of programming enviornment are you working in |
| 07:55 |
RealBadAngel |
mean the language or the tools? |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
i've only ever programmed in a *nix environment,a nd i'm not much of a C guy |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
tools etc.. |
| 07:56 |
RealBadAngel |
im on windows |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
i mean in a windows environment |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
because its new to me |
| 07:56 |
TheRedMood |
Ohh |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
i have a buddy who recommends mingw |
| 07:56 |
TheRedMood |
okey :D |
| 07:56 |
RealBadAngel |
so im using EditPlus |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
hmm |
| 07:56 |
TheRedMood |
anunnaki: can I answer? |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
yea, sure, all can answer |
| 07:56 |
anunnaki |
i'll compile a list of resources and go fromt here |
| 07:56 |
RealBadAngel |
it has filters and highlight for predefined syntaxes |
| 07:57 |
anunnaki |
hmm |
| 07:57 |
RealBadAngel |
then have windows github client |
| 07:57 |
RealBadAngel |
to sync the projects with github |
| 07:57 |
TheRedMood |
anunnaki: Well I use vim, because of personal preferance |
| 07:57 |
anunnaki |
nano guy here |
| 07:57 |
anunnaki |
XD |
| 07:58 |
TheRedMood |
anunnaki: I would advise getting a text editor and not an IDE |
| 07:58 |
TheRedMood |
because it makes more sense after a while |
| 07:58 |
TheRedMood |
Well I need to eat nwo |
| 07:58 |
anunnaki |
and it is all in C right? |
| 07:58 |
anunnaki |
lol |
| 07:58 |
anunnaki |
minetest that is |
| 07:58 |
pskosinski |
RealBadAngel: Cześć. Nie gram w Minetest od jakiegoś czasu… |
| 07:58 |
anunnaki |
i'm a php/perl kind of guy always have been, always considered pointers to be a pain in the ass and the reason why i fail at C |
| 07:59 |
RealBadAngel |
so i created a sandbox for what im doin. workin with editplus projects, when i think something is rdy to publish i move it to repo directory and run github client to sync it with online version |
| 07:59 |
FreeFull |
Pointers are actually really easy |
| 07:59 |
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| 08:00 |
anunnaki |
hmm, nice RealBadAngel thats kind of what i'm going to be looking for |
| 08:00 |
anunnaki |
i just need to put together an environment that is comfortable for me |
| 08:00 |
RealBadAngel |
are u win user? |
| 08:01 |
anunnaki |
yea, but i've always programmed using *nix |
| 08:01 |
anunnaki |
i mean, i could always use a vm or something |
| 08:01 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 08:01 |
anunnaki |
but screw that |
| 08:01 |
RealBadAngel |
take this as 1st |
| 08:01 |
RealBadAngel |
total commander with edit plus |
| 08:01 |
anunnaki |
hmm |
| 08:01 |
anunnaki |
alright |
| 08:01 |
anunnaki |
looking into them now |
| 08:02 |
RealBadAngel |
lemme upload it for ya |
| 08:02 |
anunnaki |
are you emulating a *nix environment? |
| 08:02 |
anunnaki |
and if so |
| 08:02 |
anunnaki |
what are you using? |
| 08:02 |
anunnaki |
cygwin |
| 08:02 |
anunnaki |
or mingw |
| 08:02 |
RealBadAngel |
VMware |
| 08:03 |
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| 08:03 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have debian 6 on a virtual machine |
| 08:03 |
anunnaki |
i'm working on a freebsd virtual machine for myself and oldcoder |
| 08:03 |
anunnaki |
to release as our own version of BSD |
| 08:04 |
anunnaki |
well distrobution |
| 08:07 |
RealBadAngel |
uploading total commander rite now |
| 08:07 |
NakedFury |
okay question time: how the hell is worldedit getting positions for load?? |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
whatever //pos1 is. |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
also hi |
| 08:08 |
NakedFury |
it says to select pos1 but it loads miles aways from pos1 |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
that's where the //load starts - but it's always in the same orientation |
| 08:08 |
RealBadAngel |
woohoo, our snowqueen woke up ;) |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
barely - I won't be on for long |
| 08:09 |
RealBadAngel |
cmon white take a cup of black |
| 08:10 |
RealBadAngel |
more devilish the better |
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| 08:11 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48268#p48268 < lol |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
he got a 8 year old GPU :| |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
<RealBadAngel> VMware |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
sucks |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
a lot |
| 08:11 |
RealBadAngel |
coffe is a programmers friend :) |
| 08:11 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: MRS! |
| 08:11 |
TheRedMood |
:D |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
people are too stupid to buy virtualization shit, when there's virtualbox |
| 08:11 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: Are you saying that an 8 year old gpu is ol`d? |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 08:12 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, i know. im using it just to compile minetest |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: now's your chance to harass Calinou for modname prefix in stairs ;-) |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: I tried to fix it up :P |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: you suck :D |
| 08:12 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: Guess where I am mrs! |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 08:12 |
TheRedMood |
:D |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
TheRedMood: where? |
| 08:12 |
RealBadAngel |
im raping him all the time. hes sayin: no way |
| 08:12 |
TheRedMood |
Yes, Mrs. |
| 08:13 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: I think you should add c55 for commit rights |
| 08:13 |
Calinou |
ask |
| 08:13 |
RealBadAngel |
LOL |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
hah! |
| 08:13 |
RealBadAngel |
welll said :) |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
he'd laugh me right out of the channel |
| 08:13 |
Calinou |
he said a few days ago maybe someone could get commit rights |
| 08:13 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: I am in sweden right now! We had an 8 hour drive yesterday, and now I finally found a pc where I could use putty |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
TheRedMood: cool. |
| 08:14 |
RealBadAngel |
cmon VanessaE, let c55 do something. just a little patch for start maybe :) |
| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
I'm serious - he would laugh his ass off, and besides I would probably end up screwing something up |
| 08:15 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: What is happening? |
| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
the direction I'd want to take minetest if given the opportunity is different from what c55 has in mind |
| 08:15 |
TheRedMood |
:o |
| 08:15 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, last time you havent |
| 08:16 |
VanessaE |
TheRedMood: nothing much right now. just finished breakfast, sort of |
| 08:16 |
RealBadAngel |
menu patch is perfect |
| 08:16 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: if he gives commit rights to someone, it's probably just to check pull requests around, not add homedecor & flowers in default game |
| 08:16 |
* TheRedMood |
is confused X( |
| 08:16 |
Calinou |
pull requests are almost never merged - this DOES suck |
| 08:16 |
TheRedMood |
can I ask something |
| 08:17 |
Calinou |
that's how FOSS works - you must be able to contribute to it |
| 08:17 |
TheRedMood |
What are you doing, sir, that VanessaE should do? |
| 08:17 |
RealBadAngel |
thats why we need fork(or spoon, or a knife) |
| 08:17 |
Calinou |
this is why we need someone to check pull requests, and if appropriate add them |
| 08:17 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: I am totaly with you, sir :D |
| 08:17 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: a pull request is a fork 8) |
| 08:17 |
TheRedMood |
Well I coould volenteer |
| 08:17 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah, but c55 used to say spoon you |
| 08:17 |
TheRedMood |
But I feel like we need someone with deeper roots in the community |
| 08:18 |
RealBadAngel |
we could have something like a court for each patch |
| 08:19 |
RealBadAngel |
made of several folks with rights to change main tree |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: well of course, but my coding sk1llz aren't exactly worthy of praise where C++ is involved. My little video settings patch is more of a hack anyway :-) |
| 08:19 |
Calinou |
we don't need a 8 bit ALU to check whether patches should be merged :P |
| 08:19 |
Calinou |
merging pull requests is pretty much adding code, compiling and testing whether "it works" |
| 08:19 |
Calinou |
there's no real C++ skills needed I bet, unless the thing doesn't work :P |
| 08:19 |
RealBadAngel |
when most of them agreed to merge it can be merged |
| 08:20 |
Calinou |
someone should probably paste this log to #minetest-dev :p |
| 08:20 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: No. |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, dont underestimate yourself plz. |
| 08:20 |
TheRedMood |
We do not need a community war |
| 08:20 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: Mrs is telling the truth. |
| 08:21 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: If there is one thing a good developer hate over all it is feeling uncompotent |
| 08:21 |
RealBadAngel |
so im tellin her |
| 08:21 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: Even worse locking yourself in a position where you have a lot people pending on your skill |
| 08:21 |
RealBadAngel |
she did a great job |
| 08:21 |
TheRedMood |
While you know your skillset is not good enogh yet |
| 08:21 |
RealBadAngel |
and she doesnt believe in herself |
| 08:21 |
TheRedMood |
I am sure RealBadAngel, but this is her call :) |
| 08:21 |
TheRedMood |
She does |
| 08:22 |
TheRedMood |
But she is huble |
| 08:22 |
TheRedMood |
Humble. |
| 08:22 |
TheRedMood |
There is a big diffrence |
| 08:22 |
RealBadAngel |
she shouldnt |
| 08:22 |
RealBadAngel |
shes a great coder |
| 08:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i admire her style |
| 08:23 |
RealBadAngel |
she was able to take my stupid ideas and turn them to nice, NICE lookin piece of code |
| 08:24 |
RealBadAngel |
my wires -> into pipes and tubes |
| 08:25 |
RealBadAngel |
she at the start asked me to do that |
| 08:25 |
RealBadAngel |
so i woke up in the middle of the night |
| 08:25 |
RealBadAngel |
after a while she asked it for |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 08:25 |
RealBadAngel |
and saw she already did it for herself |
| 08:25 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: Well, I am going against you here |
| 08:25 |
RealBadAngel |
way better i would |
| 08:26 |
TheRedMood |
RealBadAngel: Refining code is easyer than writing it |
| 08:26 |
TheRedMood |
I am ure you did a great job in the first plaec |
| 08:26 |
RealBadAngel |
disagree |
| 08:26 |
TheRedMood |
Well I would like to be your elder now that so i could say "Don't argue with your elders" |
| 08:26 |
RealBadAngel |
shes a great coder. and shut up |
| 08:26 |
RealBadAngel |
:) |
| 08:26 |
TheRedMood |
But I am pretty sure I am younger than you , sir X3 |
| 08:27 |
TheRedMood |
can you point out where i said she wasn't a great coder, sir? |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
ok ok ok guys come on |
| 08:27 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont know your code enough |
| 08:27 |
RealBadAngel |
i know Vanessa's one |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
this ain't about my ability to code, it's about c55's inability to give commit access to people :-) |
| 08:28 |
TheRedMood |
Sorry for discussing, mrs |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
I bet he'd laugh at me if I asked :P |
| 08:28 |
RealBadAngel |
spoon |
| 08:28 |
RealBadAngel |
is the only option ;) |
| 08:28 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: Give me a secound so i can break my fingers. Maybe that wil make them stop typing the suffices |
| 08:28 |
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| 08:28 |
TheRedMood |
suffixes* |
| 08:29 |
TheRedMood |
I just want to point out something |
| 08:29 |
TheRedMood |
We are about to become a more and more vibrant community, for everyday |
| 08:30 |
TheRedMood |
And I just want to say that we should remember that :) |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
now now red |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
no need to get like that |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
just tell your ESL teacher he's a moron ;) |
| 08:37 |
TheRedMood |
Well |
| 08:37 |
TheRedMood |
its a she |
| 08:37 |
TheRedMood |
And she is scary :( |
| 08:38 |
TheRedMood |
Even if she is just 1,6m |
| 08:38 |
TheRedMood |
She is soo scary :( |
| 08:38 |
TheRedMood |
And this comes from a person, with 4 years of karate |
| 08:38 |
TheRedMood |
And which stands 1,89m tall |
| 08:38 |
TheRedMood |
:( |
| 08:41 |
RealBadAngel |
you finally found that out |
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| 08:41 |
RealBadAngel |
shes a she, black belt and tnt in had |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
*hand |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
so watch out ;) |
| 08:42 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 08:42 |
TheRedMood |
HELLO :D |
| 08:42 |
TheRedMood |
Well she doesn't |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
hi PilzAdam |
| 08:42 |
TheRedMood |
but she got a silver toung |
| 08:43 |
TheRedMood |
Which whips at anything it sees |
| 08:43 |
TheRedMood |
Her words, slice trough the air, and cut deep wounds in the person in its path |
| 08:43 |
PilzAdam |
who are you talking about? |
| 08:44 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe, guess |
| 08:45 |
TheRedMood |
My english teacher :( |
| 08:45 |
TheRedMood |
She is scary |
| 08:45 |
TheRedMood |
She is the reason for my habbit of adding suffixes(sir, miss, mrs) to sentences |
| 08:46 |
TheRedMood |
A recent event made me realize that this is not good english |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
not rly |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
good, but just not here |
| 08:47 |
RealBadAngel |
irc hates such expeditions. there are no sirs here |
| 08:48 |
TheRedMood |
well, that would be wrong x3 |
| 08:48 |
TheRedMood |
There are males and females on irc |
| 08:48 |
PilzAdam |
and something between this |
| 08:48 |
anunnaki |
hey RealBadAngel |
| 08:48 |
RealBadAngel |
even the king here is just a user |
| 08:48 |
anunnaki |
how would i go about generating electricity with water? |
| 08:48 |
anunnaki |
instead of solar panels |
| 08:49 |
RealBadAngel |
anunnaki, why not, just craft Water Mill |
| 08:49 |
FreeFull |
Split it into hydrogen and oxygen |
| 08:49 |
anunnaki |
hmm |
| 08:49 |
FreeFull |
Then use the hydrogen for fusion |
| 08:49 |
TheRedMood |
I need to go now |
| 08:49 |
RealBadAngel |
theres already flowinf water generator |
| 08:49 |
TheRedMood |
Bye all :D |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
*g |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
bye |
| 08:50 |
anunnaki |
ah ok |
| 08:50 |
anunnaki |
i see |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
come to my base, i will show you |
| 08:51 |
TheRedMood |
Ha a nice day all :D |
| 08:51 |
RealBadAngel |
u 2 |
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| 08:58 |
Jordach |
well Portal 2 works |
| 08:59 |
Jordach |
hello all |
| 08:59 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest 0.4.3 too |
| 08:59 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 09:00 |
* Jordach |
gets 60fps on Portal 2 |
| 09:00 |
* RealBadAngel |
gets 60fps on minetest |
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| 09:02 |
RealBadAngel |
where are you wandering? stick to your game :) |
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VanessaE |
morning Jordach |
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| 09:21 |
TheRedMood |
Who |
| 09:21 |
TheRedMood |
Actully |
| 09:21 |
TheRedMood |
Whoa- |
| 09:21 |
Jordach |
hello VanessaE |
| 09:21 |
TheRedMood |
I got 120 fps on minetest |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
I never get more than 60 and I have a kick-ass video card |
| 09:22 |
TheRedMood |
Is there someway that in the new version we could include a fps cap? |
| 09:22 |
TheRedMood |
Well on average it is 94 |
| 09:22 |
TheRedMood |
But that is from a world just started, the world still generating |
| 09:22 |
TheRedMood |
it stabelizes at 105~111 |
| 09:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, in Portal 2's steam folder, theres a file called portal2.sh |
| 09:23 |
TheRedMood |
So it looks like the game is slowmo |
| 09:23 |
PilzAdam |
hi Jordach |
| 09:23 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
hey PilzAdam |
| 09:23 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: Protal 2 is awesome :D |
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| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
never played it. |
| 09:23 |
TheRedMood |
:o |
| 09:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, puzzles |
| 09:23 |
Jordach |
+ fps gaming |
| 09:23 |
Jordach |
but no guns |
| 09:23 |
TheRedMood |
Jordach: Portal 2 is so good :D |
| 09:23 |
TheRedMood |
Well, I like counter strike 1.6 |
| 09:24 |
TheRedMood |
and counter strike source |
| 09:24 |
TheRedMood |
But I don't like the mw series |
| 09:24 |
Jordach |
apparently the windows version can run on Linux natively |
| 09:24 |
TheRedMood |
Jordach: It can't, not yet |
| 09:24 |
Jordach |
portal2.sh is found in the steam folder |
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TheRedMood |
Jordach: valve is working on it in secret. |
| 09:24 |
TheRedMood |
:) |
| 09:25 |
iqualfragile |
hl3? |
| 09:25 |
TheRedMood |
no, to port steam and portal 2 to linux |
| 09:25 |
TheRedMood |
to do that they need to revamp the source engien |
| 09:25 |
TheRedMood |
But if there is someone who can do it is valve := |
| 09:25 |
iqualfragile |
they dont work on that in secret |
| 09:25 |
iqualfragile |
they work on that in public |
| 09:26 |
iqualfragile |
there was even an press-release stating that they want to port all the games to linux |
| 09:26 |
Jordach |
http://pastie.org/5088073 portal2.sh and http://i.imgur.com/aPEUg.png |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
Portal 2 has Linux support already |
| 09:27 |
TheRedMood |
okey |
| 09:27 |
TheRedMood |
Boot it up then |
| 09:27 |
TheRedMood |
start it on linux :D |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
i dont use linux since i almost killed my partition boot sector |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
after the mess from ubuntu |
| 09:27 |
iqualfragile |
it would never do that |
| 09:27 |
TheRedMood |
well as a linux user |
| 09:27 |
TheRedMood |
I tell you that it won't work |
| 09:27 |
iqualfragile |
it just puts grub there |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, GRUB2 can kill your mbr |
| 09:28 |
TheRedMood |
Well it can |
| 09:28 |
iqualfragile |
yeah, it overwrites it |
| 09:28 |
TheRedMood |
But not kill it |
| 09:28 |
iqualfragile |
thats the point |
| 09:28 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, and i could only use lilo's mbr |
| 09:28 |
Jordach |
(from live cd) |
| 09:28 |
iqualfragile |
interesting |
| 09:28 |
TheRedMood |
Since windows needs it mbr to start |
| 09:28 |
TheRedMood |
grub makes it for windows |
| 09:28 |
TheRedMood |
But going away from linux is a living hell |
| 09:28 |
FreeFull |
I use syslinux |
| 09:28 |
iqualfragile |
did you have any strange copy-protected software running under windows? |
| 09:29 |
FreeFull |
TheRedMood: Going away from linux is either restoring the MBR from backup or using a windows CD to restore the mbr |
| 09:29 |
iqualfragile |
they sometimes put stuffs in the mbr |
| 09:29 |
TheRedMood |
Yes |
| 09:29 |
TheRedMood |
FreeFull: Now can you plese tell me how you would do that without any of those 2 options? |
| 09:29 |
iqualfragile |
going away from linux? who would do that |
| 09:29 |
TheRedMood |
:D |
| 09:29 |
TheRedMood |
Someone who is giving the PC to his little sister |
| 09:30 |
iqualfragile |
i mean: going away from ubuntu, allright, going to arch or gentoo, allright, but going away from linux? |
| 09:30 |
iqualfragile |
just give her linux, its easyer |
| 09:30 |
TheRedMood |
hh |
| 09:30 |
TheRedMood |
Well she doesn't understanlinux so thpoint woulden't really live? |
| 09:31 |
TheRedMood |
Besides the harddisk was not to big |
| 09:31 |
TheRedMood |
So when she is going to bloat it up with pictures and so on |
| 09:31 |
TheRedMood |
HAving those etra 200GB is essential :) |
| 09:31 |
VanessaE |
linux is only hard to understand if you refuse to learn - we all learned back in the early days how to use a computer, so it ain't that hard. |
| 09:31 |
iqualfragile |
nah, that script wont work |
| 09:31 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: Agree |
| 09:31 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: But she doesn't want to learn |
| 09:32 |
TheRedMood |
iqualfragile: I said so already :) |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
then honestly, she shouldn't be using a computer at all |
| 09:32 |
TheRedMood |
X3 |
| 09:33 |
VanessaE |
not a general-purpose one anyway |
| 09:33 |
TheRedMood |
VanessaE: My point exactly, but I have learned to deal with "enduser" problems |
| 09:33 |
VanessaE |
get her a tablet something. |
| 09:33 |
TheRedMood |
If people don't want to use a stronger, faster, open system |
| 09:33 |
TheRedMood |
Then I just have to make it easy for them to go over to it |
| 09:33 |
TheRedMood |
All of our media servers are going to run linux |
| 09:33 |
iqualfragile |
no, most people leared how to use windows, but think they leared how to use a computer and are shocket when they get to realize that this is not the case |
| 09:34 |
VanessaE |
bbl, time to get some more sleep |
| 09:34 |
TheRedMood |
good night, Mrs :) |
| 09:34 |
iqualfragile |
its 11:30 in the morning |
| 09:34 |
iqualfragile |
(here) |
| 09:34 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
| 09:34 |
iqualfragile |
hi adam |
| 09:34 |
iqualfragile |
gn8 vanessae |
| 09:36 |
Jordach |
FUCK linux |
| 09:36 |
TheRedMood |
Jordach: Go die |
| 09:37 |
Jordach |
TheRedMood, im tired of people saying Linux is better |
| 09:37 |
Jordach |
GO FIND A OS that has GAMING |
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| 09:37 |
iqualfragile |
well, linux IS better |
| 09:37 |
iqualfragile |
linux has gaming |
| 09:37 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, anything bar Windows XP is SLOOOW |
| 09:37 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, win id better for gaming, but for nothing else |
| 09:37 |
Calinou |
it's perfectly possible to play on linux |
| 09:37 |
PilzAdam |
*is |
| 09:37 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i cant get 20fps in linux |
| 09:38 |
Calinou |
I used to play only native games on linux (+TF2, using wine) for 1.5 year |
| 09:38 |
Jordach |
i'd have something that _ACTUALLY_ works |
| 09:38 |
Calinou |
Jordach: ...get a more recent GPU :P and the proprietary driver -- although the free drivers work quite well |
| 09:38 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, then be happy with it |
| 09:38 |
Jordach |
Calinou, already there |
| 09:38 |
Jordach |
also; i have a AGP port |
| 09:38 |
Jordach |
no PCI-E |
| 09:39 |
Calinou |
O_o |
| 09:39 |
TheRedMood |
Jordach: Linux is better :o I can prove it. |
| 09:39 |
iqualfragile |
additionaly: you dont need any games besides widelands, wesnot, df & nethack |
| 09:39 |
Calinou |
TheRedMood: UEFI and preinstalled windows both beg to differ |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
UEFI works nice FOR NOW, but secure boot will come soon, have fun going in settings to disable it |
| 09:40 |
Jordach |
Calinou, its an Acer Aspire; do you think it will have PCI-E (from 2006)? |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: you forgot FPSes :< |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
there was PCI-E in 2006 |
| 09:40 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: Well then. Are there a reason that 90% of worlds servers are running linux? |
| 09:40 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: Add Warsow then |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
and it started to become a standard around 2006 |
| 09:40 |
Jordach |
Calinou, AGP works just fine |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
FreeFull: sauerbraten, red eclipse, openarena, xonotic :P |
| 09:40 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: Are there a reason that these massive computer parks are running linu not windows? |
| 09:40 |
iqualfragile |
ah, i forgot strategy-games, too |
| 09:40 |
iqualfragile |
0ad |
| 09:40 |
iqualfragile |
warzone |
| 09:40 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: Are there a reason that most system intense software are written for linux |
| 09:41 |
iqualfragile |
well, rts |
| 09:41 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: Probably only Xonotic matches Warsow in gameplay =P |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
TheRedMood: windows is not written for linux |
| 09:41 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, Age of Empires, Starcraft 2 |
| 09:41 |
TheRedMood |
Wait Calinou I am getting some friends |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
8D |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
FreeFull: red eclipse is awesome gameplay wise, sauerbraten has nice old school gameplay |
| 09:41 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: I am sure they have some arguents for you :D |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
I like old school FPSes |
| 09:41 |
Jordach |
Skyrim. |
| 09:41 |
iqualfragile |
jordach: you coud run those under linux, too |
| 09:41 |
FreeFull |
I like sauerbraten for the level editing |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
TheRedMood: I have lubuntu on an external drive (regrets, should've installed debian) |
| 09:41 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, Skyrim wont even run in linux |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
not using it because I need to reinstall everything and get drivers working |
| 09:41 |
iqualfragile |
but 0ad is just better then age of empires |
| 09:41 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: You can always switch distros if you want |
| 09:41 |
iqualfragile |
then play another rpg |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
the proprietary driver is not detected, and free drivers are crap for fermi/kepler nvidia GPUS |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
570gtx here |
| 09:42 |
iqualfragile |
there are tons of rpgs for linux |
| 09:42 |
FreeFull |
You'll lose all your software but can keep your /home |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
FreeFull: and I lose everything I downloaded |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
I did a separate /home, yeah |
| 09:42 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, i dont need win for gaming, i hav a xbox |
| 09:42 |
iqualfragile |
who did not? |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
my connection isn't fast: I download at 250kb/susually |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
lolconsoles |
| 09:42 |
iqualfragile |
im runnig 3 distros in paralel |
| 09:42 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: then use sometling like gentoo! |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
gentoo |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
hahahAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 09:42 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: Or just install it nativly |
| 09:42 |
Calinou |
it's the old harshlinux |
| 09:42 |
TheRedMood |
I use slackware on my homebox |
| 09:43 |
iqualfragile |
calinou: what are you running? |
| 09:43 |
TheRedMood |
Which I am connected to trough putty |
| 09:44 |
TheRedMood |
Pen drives are not meant for permanent installations of linux |
| 09:44 |
iqualfragile |
uugh, putty |
| 09:44 |
iqualfragile |
well, but you can use them |
| 09:44 |
TheRedMood |
yeah you can |
| 09:44 |
TheRedMood |
But to say that it is a hassel to reinstall drivers and so on |
| 09:44 |
TheRedMood |
is just an invalid arguents as you would have to do it with windows to |
| 09:44 |
iqualfragile |
nah, just dont use properitary |
| 09:44 |
TheRedMood |
Well agreed |
| 09:44 |
TheRedMood |
Go ahead and use windows |
| 09:45 |
iqualfragile |
then it will use the right drivers automaticly |
| 09:45 |
iqualfragile |
lolno |
| 09:45 |
TheRedMood |
But don't go talking shit about Unix without being preapeared for a fight |
| 09:45 |
iqualfragile |
calinou: what distro are you running |
| 09:45 |
TheRedMood |
It would not |
| 09:45 |
iqualfragile |
it would, i tried it out |
| 09:45 |
TheRedMood |
I dubt you ould even install windows on a usb |
| 09:45 |
TheRedMood |
iqualfragile: Show me a video of you having windows on an usb |
| 09:45 |
iqualfragile |
wtf? im not talking about windows |
| 09:46 |
TheRedMood |
iqualfragile: Getting performance out of it, getting all the drivers right |
| 09:46 |
iqualfragile |
but you can install win7 on an usb-stick |
| 09:46 |
TheRedMood |
Sure |
| 09:46 |
TheRedMood |
Go ahead and show me |
| 09:47 |
TheRedMood |
Show me how your p runs ith it |
| 09:47 |
TheRedMood |
And so on |
| 09:47 |
TheRedMood |
then lets take a test run with aGNU/Linux distro on the same system |
| 09:47 |
TheRedMood |
And see who gets the best out of it |
| 09:47 |
TheRedMood |
:) |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: winblows here |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
and lubuntu on an external drive, but I almost never run it anyway |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
I have a working OS, why run another OS? |
| 09:48 |
TheRedMood |
Well |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
(and I paid for it) |
| 09:48 |
TheRedMood |
I do some C programing |
| 09:48 |
iqualfragile |
wow |
| 09:48 |
TheRedMood |
so I like linux :) |
| 09:48 |
iqualfragile |
great, you paid for it |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
the main reason I'm not removing windows is because it was preinstalled |
| 09:48 |
iqualfragile |
wonderfull |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: like almost everyone |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
but Jordach :> |
| 09:48 |
TheRedMood |
Calinou: Agreed. |
| 09:48 |
TheRedMood |
:) |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
computer manufacturers make money out of linux users |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
computer without OS is more expensive |
| 09:49 |
Calinou |
building a computer is more expensive |
| 09:49 |
TheRedMood |
Not really |
| 09:49 |
TheRedMood |
I know a couple of people who could trhow together pces for almost nothing |
| 09:49 |
iqualfragile |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jclt_ylFWXs&feature=related |
| 09:49 |
Calinou |
it is; pre-made computers are bought "in bunches" by resellers |
| 09:49 |
Calinou |
this is why they're cheaper, even when they have winblows |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
OS-less computers are rarely bought like that by resellers; this is why they are more expensive |
| 09:50 |
iqualfragile |
you could install fedora with prestos |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
same applies to computer parts |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
I run debian in virtualbox btw :P |
| 09:50 |
iqualfragile |
that would only download the differences |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
fedora is for furries |
| 09:51 |
TheRedMood |
well |
| 09:51 |
TheRedMood |
you could just get the parts ? |
| 09:51 |
TheRedMood |
Builda a omputer from the ground |
| 09:51 |
TheRedMood |
That can be a lot less expensice |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
it is very expensive |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
- there are no price reductions (whatever they are called in english) on parts, almost never |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
- you have to build it yourself. costs time, thus money |
| 09:52 |
iqualfragile |
oh, noes, that one hour |
| 09:53 |
iqualfragile |
it will rape my moneys |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
- the hardware can be more expensive, because it isn't bought "in bunches" by resellers |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
aunt tille doesn't buy PC parts |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: building the computer takes more than one hour usually |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
if you're fast, 90 minutes easily |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
never tried |
| 09:53 |
iqualfragile |
no, it takes me about an hour |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
and what if you fail? NO WARRANTY YAY |
| 09:53 |
iqualfragile |
maybe less |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
you have to rebuy the hardware |
| 09:53 |
iqualfragile |
why would i fail? |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
and it's quite easy to burn your CPU/GPU |
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Kray |
the fuck |
| 09:54 |
iqualfragile |
i have done that (not burning) many times |
| 09:54 |
Calinou |
Kray: hi arch linux user |
| 09:54 |
Kray |
it takes something like 15 minutes to build it |
| 09:54 |
iqualfragile |
so i have quite some experience |
| 09:54 |
iqualfragile |
that depends on what parts you have |
| 09:55 |
iqualfragile |
sometimes its a bit tricky because of an small shell and a big gpu |
| 09:55 |
iqualfragile |
or sth |
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PilzAdam |
i have one question: why do you talk about this int #minetest ? |
| 09:55 |
PilzAdam |
*in |
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Calinou |
Kray: everything? the CPU, GPU, RAM, and especially disk? |
| 09:56 |
Kray |
yes |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
and remember the case; what if you can't fit everything in? FUBAR |
| 09:57 |
Calinou |
this is why I prefer pre-built PCs, but unfortunately they're almost always shipped with winblows |
| 09:57 |
Calinou |
the ones without OS are more expensive |
| 10:01 |
TheRedMood |
Well |
| 10:01 |
TheRedMood |
I still say that you can build pces |
| 10:01 |
TheRedMood |
that are less expensie |
| 10:01 |
TheRedMood |
:) |
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PilzAdam |
iqualfragile1, wlan? |
| 10:03 |
iqualfragile1 |
jup |
| 10:03 |
iqualfragile1 |
-.T |
| 10:03 |
iqualfragile1 |
•.• |
| 10:03 |
iqualfragile1 |
-.- |
| 10:03 |
iqualfragile1 |
… |
| 10:06 |
Jordach |
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/admin_mourning.png |
| 10:07 |
iqualfragile1 |
uh, i just found out i allready had an github-account when trying to register a new one |
| 10:07 |
iqualfragile1 |
that happens to me all the time |
| 10:07 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile1, maybe it was iqualfragile? |
| 10:08 |
PilzAdam |
or iqualfragile2? |
| 10:09 |
iqualfragile1 |
nah, i guess iqualfragile |
| 10:09 |
iqualfragile1 |
nah, i guess iqualfragile_ did it |
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Calinou |
<TheRedMood> I still say that you can build pces |
| 10:21 |
Calinou |
<TheRedMood> that are less expensie |
| 10:21 |
Calinou |
pics or it didn't happen |
| 10:21 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 10:24 |
nyuszika7h |
Calinou, when did you get unbanned |
| 10:24 |
nyuszika7h |
oh wait, this is #minetest, not #minecraft |
| 10:24 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 10:24 |
iqualfragile1 |
what did you do? |
| 10:25 |
nyuszika7h |
:O |
| 10:25 |
nyuszika7h |
someone from Hungary is banned |
| 10:25 |
nyuszika7h |
12:25:09* -- | [#minecraft] *!*@82-131-147-78.pool.invitel.hu banned by lindbohm.freenode.net (lindbohm.freenode.net) on Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:44:23 |
| 10:25 |
nyuszika7h |
good thing my ISP is different anyway :P |
| 10:27 |
TheRedMood |
Wow |
| 10:27 |
TheRedMood |
X3 |
| 10:27 |
TheRedMood |
Project euler 7 |
| 10:28 |
TheRedMood |
I just keep messing that u |
| 10:28 |
TheRedMood |
up |
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| 10:29 |
M13 |
hello |
| 10:30 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 10:30 |
M13 |
um r you good with os's |
| 10:30 |
M13 |
making them |
| 10:30 |
PilzAdam |
i know a bit assembler |
| 10:30 |
M13 |
nice |
| 10:31 |
M13 |
umm..... how hard would it be to make a os that supports bash and wget in a console? |
| 10:31 |
M13 |
that boots |
| 10:32 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
| 10:32 |
PilzAdam |
but booting is not very hard |
| 10:32 |
M13 |
ik |
| 10:33 |
M13 |
isolinux is pritty strait forward |
| 10:33 |
M13 |
but ill talk to you later Im going to bed |
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Calinou |
lolassembler |
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iqualfragile1 |
well, im on my way then, goodbye |
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TheRedMood |
It works now :D |
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FreeFull |
PilzAdam: Which assembler? x86? |
| 11:08 |
PilzAdam |
gnu assembler |
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FreeFull |
That tells me the program, but not the cpu architecture you're assembling for =P |
| 11:14 |
PilzAdam |
it tells you the syntax |
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PilzAdam |
and yes, x86 |
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FreeFull |
I don't like AT&T syntax =P |
| 11:19 |
FreeFull |
Intel syntax forever. Also, fasm is the best assembler <3 |
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RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, theres nothin like GNU assembler. there are only assemblers for certain CPUs |
| 12:33 |
RealBadAngel |
and theres no GNU at all |
| 12:33 |
PilzAdam |
"AS - the portable GNU assembler." from manpage of as |
| 12:34 |
RealBadAngel |
dunno who created it, some moron propably |
| 12:34 |
RealBadAngel |
assembler is the lowest level. machine code |
| 12:35 |
PilzAdam |
i know what assembler is |
| 12:35 |
RealBadAngel |
lowe are only 0 and 1 |
| 12:35 |
RealBadAngel |
*lower |
| 12:36 |
RealBadAngel |
to what assembler is translated directly |
| 12:37 |
RealBadAngel |
and theres no gnu, open source or whatever, just what producer of the CPU provided |
| 12:37 |
RealBadAngel |
and nothin portable for sure |
| 12:38 |
PilzAdam |
assembler is also the programm that "compiles" the code |
| 12:38 |
PilzAdam |
its not only the "language" |
| 12:38 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 12:38 |
RealBadAngel |
youre wrong |
| 12:38 |
RealBadAngel |
any high level language is translated into assembler |
| 12:39 |
RealBadAngel |
CPU doesnt understand nothing but assembler |
| 12:39 |
RealBadAngel |
its CPUs language |
| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
assembler has to be compiled too |
| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
by a assembler |
| 12:39 |
RealBadAngel |
to 0 and 1 |
| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
| 12:39 |
RealBadAngel |
directly |
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| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 12:39 |
Lumpio- |
lol |
| 12:39 |
Lumpio- |
15:34:15 < RealBadAngel> dunno who created it, some moron propably |
| 12:39 |
Lumpio- |
This guy... |
| 12:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i was grown with assembler |
| 12:39 |
Lumpio- |
Are you a troll? |
| 12:40 |
RealBadAngel |
shut up |
| 12:40 |
RealBadAngel |
im a assembler coder :P |
| 12:40 |
Lumpio- |
Either you're lying or you're a really bad "assembler coder" |
| 12:40 |
PilzAdam |
i code something in assembler, then i "compile" it with as and then i link it with ld |
| 12:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i was coding in assembler propably before you come to this world even |
| 12:41 |
Lumpio- |
All an assembler does is read a text file and output a binary file |
| 12:41 |
PilzAdam |
Lumpio-, thats true |
| 12:41 |
Lumpio- |
Anybody can write an assembler and you sure as hell can write one that targets multiple platforms, for instance. |
| 12:41 |
RealBadAngel |
LOL |
| 12:41 |
PilzAdam |
Lumpio-, that is what gnu assembler does |
| 12:41 |
Lumpio- |
I am aware of that. |
| 12:41 |
RealBadAngel |
multiplatform assembler |
| 12:41 |
RealBadAngel |
thats funny |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, man page of as: "NU as is really a family of assemblers. If you use (or have used) the GNU assembler on one architecture, you should find a fairly similar |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
environment when you use it on another architecture" |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
*GNU |
| 12:42 |
Lumpio- |
I think RealBadAngel is either just dumb or is confused between assembly language and the program that compiles it |
| 12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
so its called wrong |
| 12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
its not a assembler anymore |
| 12:42 |
Lumpio- |
The terminology is a bit confusing. |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
assembler is a language and a name for assembler "compilers" |
| 12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
its something pretending to be an assembler |
| 12:43 |
Lumpio- |
But if you say "assembly language" for the language and "an assembler" for the compiler it's pretty unambiguous. |
| 12:43 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: How is it pretending if it works |
| 12:43 |
PilzAdam |
Lumpio-, but compiler is wrong |
| 12:43 |
RealBadAngel |
its a cheat |
| 12:43 |
Lumpio- |
why |
| 12:43 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: Ok, if that's a "cheat" then what defines the "real thing"? |
| 12:44 |
RealBadAngel |
assembler opcode is an instruction in a human readable form translated into binary form |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
Lumpio-, because compiling is a bit different to what a assembler does |
| 12:44 |
Lumpio- |
PilzAdam: How so? |
| 12:44 |
Lumpio- |
A compiler takes input in one language and outputs something in another language. |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_language#Related_terminology |
| 12:44 |
RealBadAngel |
and theres no way for it to be portable in any way |
| 12:45 |
Lumpio- |
An assembler compiles from assembly language to machine code (it's still a language - just not very human readable) |
| 12:45 |
PilzAdam |
Lumpio-, maybe because its a low language. but i dunno |
| 12:45 |
RealBadAngel |
for every CPU has its own opcodes |
| 12:45 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: The *program* is portable. It can read many kinds of assembly languages. |
| 12:45 |
PilzAdam |
"The assembler is said to be "assembling" the source code." wikipedia |
| 12:45 |
RealBadAngel |
language error then |
| 12:45 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: It can compile from x86 assembly to x86 machine code, ARM assembly to ARM machine code etc. All in one program! |
| 12:46 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, not a language error |
| 12:46 |
RealBadAngel |
even there is no x86 only |
| 12:46 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, assembler = compiler; assembly language = language |
| 12:46 |
RealBadAngel |
theres x86 made by intel and by AMD |
| 12:46 |
RealBadAngel |
wiki says bullshits |
| 12:46 |
Lumpio- |
Of course there's different flavors and extensions |
| 12:46 |
PilzAdam |
thats syntax differences |
| 12:46 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 12:46 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, wiki is not bullshit |
| 12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
there is no syntax at all |
| 12:47 |
Lumpio- |
But if you don't understand that an assembler is just a program (infact it's a mathematical operation), then you're clueless as to how computers work. |
| 12:47 |
Lumpio- |
And programs can be made portable. |
| 12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
shit |
| 12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
bull |
| 12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
shit |
| 12:47 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, youre wrong |
| 12:47 |
Lumpio- |
I'm not sure if I can take this channel anymore |
| 12:47 |
Lumpio- |
I can't even tell whether people are trolls or not |
| 12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
you sir, havent wrote even a single line in assembler, so shut up |
| 12:47 |
Lumpio- |
Me? |
| 12:48 |
PilzAdam |
or me? |
| 12:48 |
RealBadAngel |
Lumpio-, |
| 12:48 |
RealBadAngel |
otherwise i wont be hearin such bullshits |
| 12:48 |
Lumpio- |
I avoid using assembler because C is so much more reasonable, but I can write ASM if I need to V: |
| 12:48 |
Lumpio- |
For microcontrollers for instance. |
| 12:49 |
Lumpio- |
And in doing that I ran an assembler for an entirely different architecture on my x64 computer :P |
| 12:50 |
RealBadAngel |
thats what happens nowadays |
| 12:50 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, this is the code: http://ompldr.org/vZnk5Ng/exit.asm and this is the compiled and linked version: http://ompldr.org/vZnk5Nw/exit |
| 12:50 |
RealBadAngel |
folks dont even understand what low level programming is |
| 12:51 |
RealBadAngel |
effect is such as we all know. go buy better hardware. im to lazy to low level code it |
| 12:52 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, i trust wikipedia more than i trust you |
| 12:52 |
RealBadAngel |
sure |
| 12:53 |
RealBadAngel |
despite the fact i was coding in assembler when there were no wiki or even internet there |
| 12:53 |
Lumpio- |
Well you obviously weren't because you're still misunderstanding everything. |
| 12:54 |
Lumpio- |
I've probably written code for less powerful hardware than you. |
| 12:54 |
RealBadAngel |
Lumpio, no i was learnin how to code in assembler like 25 yrs ago |
| 12:54 |
Lumpio- |
And I've written low-level code (when I was tinkering around with a simple OS) for modern hardware as well. |
| 12:54 |
RealBadAngel |
so i know the rules and roots |
| 12:54 |
Lumpio- |
Oh, which platforms? |
| 12:54 |
Kray |
LumpiOS? 8) |
| 12:55 |
Lumpio- |
Kray: yes |
| 12:55 |
RealBadAngel |
Zilog Z80 then first x86 |
| 12:55 |
Lumpio- |
It never really turned into an OS though |
| 12:55 |
Kray |
js goes to every field |
| 12:55 |
Lumpio- |
yes |
| 12:56 |
RealBadAngel |
wanna see a piece of assembler soft? |
| 12:56 |
Lumpio- |
Sure. |
| 12:56 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
| 12:56 |
Lumpio- |
I could even teach you how to cross-compile it |
| 12:56 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKH_RXHrVI |
| 12:57 |
RealBadAngel |
thats written in pure Z80 assembler |
| 12:57 |
Lumpio- |
Aww, I thought it was something you wrote. |
| 12:57 |
RealBadAngel |
i did |
| 12:58 |
RealBadAngel |
thats my game |
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| 12:58 |
RealBadAngel |
writen in 1992 as i recall |
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| 12:59 |
Lumpio- |
neat |
| 12:59 |
Lumpio- |
Well, I can give you props on writing it on the original hardware. I guess we're spoiled with modern tools these days |
| 13:00 |
Lumpio- |
Even though the target platform can be almost as limited (1MHz microcontroller with 2kB of code space, for instance) |
| 13:00 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Assembler |
| 13:00 |
Lumpio- |
But at any rate, if you like assembly, you might still want to consider learning what it's used for in the modern world |
| 13:01 |
Lumpio- |
Because by claiming that there are no such things as open source assembler software or cross-compilers, you're making yourself look pretty dumb. |
| 13:01 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, its a neat cheat :) |
| 13:01 |
PilzAdam |
we could write some parts of minetest in assmebler, its realy fast |
| 13:01 |
RealBadAngel |
thats the way to pretend all CPUs are the same |
| 13:01 |
RealBadAngel |
which is not true |
| 13:02 |
RealBadAngel |
so therefore its not low level programing language |
| 13:02 |
RealBadAngel |
its kinda interface to it |
| 13:03 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: It doesn't pretend all CPUs are the same |
| 13:03 |
Lumpio- |
You still need to write in the correct assembly language |
| 13:03 |
RealBadAngel |
definition does |
| 13:03 |
Lumpio- |
It can't magically translate ARM assembly into x86 code for instance |
| 13:03 |
Lumpio- |
That doesn't work. |
| 13:03 |
Lumpio- |
Did you even read what that program does before calling it a "cheat"? |
| 13:04 |
Lumpio- |
All it does is let you compile many different kinds of assembly language into their respective machine code |
| 13:04 |
RealBadAngel |
its like you will invent GNU Wheel. Fits for all the cars. No matter combi or the bus or even the truck |
| 13:04 |
Kray |
if you are not coding on some microcontroller, there is no good reason to write assembler manually aside from using some special SSSE-instructions, for example |
| 13:04 |
RealBadAngel |
GNU Wheel rulz |
| 13:04 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: Do you have difficulties understanding the English language? |
| 13:05 |
Lumpio- |
If you do please say so. |
| 13:05 |
RealBadAngel |
if i disagree i must be misunderstanding? |
| 13:05 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, no, you give it rubber and it looks wich wheel would be best and creats the wheel |
| 13:05 |
Lumpio- |
good grief |
| 13:06 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: No, you must be misunderstanding because what you're saying makes no fucking sense |
| 13:06 |
Lumpio- |
Maybe you've gone senile |
| 13:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 13:06 |
RealBadAngel |
modern coders are just different |
| 13:07 |
RealBadAngel |
i just said what i had to |
| 13:07 |
Lumpio- |
I started on a C64 .__. |
| 13:07 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, how old are you? |
| 13:07 |
RealBadAngel |
almost 40 |
| 13:07 |
RealBadAngel |
started to code on z80 when i was 13 or so |
| 13:08 |
Lumpio- |
I started on a C64 when I was about eight or so |
| 13:08 |
Lumpio- |
BASIC only though, since that's all the book that came with it taught |
| 13:08 |
Lumpio- |
And I had no other reference material .__. |
| 13:08 |
FreeFull |
If you put x86 assembly in minetest, what is someone who wants to run it on a raspberry pi supposed to do? |
| 13:08 |
PilzAdam |
i started 6 years ago with Java |
| 13:08 |
RealBadAngel |
when i was in high school i wrote OS like libraries for VESA |
| 13:08 |
Lumpio- |
FreeFull: Rewrite it in ARM assembly |
| 13:09 |
Lumpio- |
Besides putting assembly code in something like a game is quite useless |
| 13:09 |
Lumpio- |
GCC can optimize better than most people |
| 13:09 |
RealBadAngel |
wrong |
| 13:09 |
Kray |
llvm optimizes even better than gcc |
| 13:09 |
RealBadAngel |
man with time tables in hand is always better |
| 13:09 |
Lumpio- |
what |
| 13:09 |
RealBadAngel |
if code is too slow write it better |
| 13:09 |
Kray |
nope |
| 13:10 |
Lumpio- |
But it's not too slow. |
| 13:10 |
Lumpio- |
In C or even freaking Lua (which is used for most of the game logic AFAIK) |
| 13:10 |
RealBadAngel |
i was rewriting basic routines dozens of times |
| 13:10 |
Lumpio- |
Today, readability and portability and more important than saving two cycles by using hand-optimized ASM |
| 13:10 |
RealBadAngel |
to get better timings |
| 13:10 |
Lumpio- |
Yeah, in 1992! |
| 13:10 |
Lumpio- |
It's 2012 now |
| 13:10 |
RealBadAngel |
to each cycle of the cupu |
| 13:10 |
RealBadAngel |
*cpu |
| 13:10 |
Lumpio- |
And putting in ASM breaks both compatibility and maintainability. |
| 13:10 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, its 2012 |
| 13:11 |
Lumpio- |
Priorities change |
| 13:11 |
Lumpio- |
People write games in freaking Python these days |
| 13:11 |
RealBadAngel |
and now game makers telling you go buy better hardware |
| 13:11 |
Lumpio- |
Yes. Because better hardware is cheaper than better code. |
| 13:11 |
Lumpio- |
Programmers cost money. |
| 13:11 |
Lumpio- |
Good ones at least |
| 13:11 |
RealBadAngel |
which is nonsense |
| 13:11 |
Lumpio- |
Yeah, it is, from an assembly geek's viewpoint |
| 13:12 |
RealBadAngel |
hardware is good enough to run 10x better games |
| 13:12 |
Lumpio- |
But the world runs on money, not beautiful code (even though I don't like that fact myself either) |
| 13:12 |
RealBadAngel |
but coders are lazy |
| 13:12 |
FreeFull |
Well, we do stuff now that would be impossible on a C64 no matter how good your code is =P |
| 13:12 |
Kray |
define "better game" |
| 13:12 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: But would you want to wait for five years more per game to see that done? |
| 13:12 |
Lumpio- |
And pay twice the price? |
| 13:12 |
RealBadAngel |
for a masterpiece? |
| 13:12 |
RealBadAngel |
sure i would |
| 13:12 |
Lumpio- |
Really, really good code takes time and time is money. |
| 13:12 |
Kray |
161216 Kray define "better game" |
| 13:12 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: Good for you. Most people wouldn't. |
| 13:13 |
RealBadAngel |
im a coder i can understand what it takes |
| 13:13 |
Lumpio- |
I'm a coder too. |
| 13:13 |
FreeFull |
I've never written a game so I don't understand what it takes to do that yet |
| 13:13 |
RealBadAngel |
time :) |
| 13:14 |
Lumpio- |
...and money. |
| 13:14 |
PilzAdam |
depends on the game |
| 13:14 |
RealBadAngel |
money you expect to get |
| 13:14 |
* FreeFull |
doesn't see why it'd take money if you're working by yourself |
| 13:14 |
FreeFull |
Time, sure =P |
| 13:14 |
RealBadAngel |
i got several k of british pounds for mine efforts |
| 13:15 |
Lumpio- |
Your efforts doing what |
| 13:15 |
RealBadAngel |
it was pretty nice as for a kid |
| 13:15 |
RealBadAngel |
as the Snakemania you saw on youtube |
| 13:15 |
PilzAdam |
Backt to Minetest: minimal transfers 266,042 Bytes to the client (media only) |
| 13:16 |
Lumpio- |
RealBadAngel: I kind of liked the idea of that game btw, did you get it from somewhere or invent it yourself? |
| 13:17 |
Lumpio- |
(Also how do we even know you made that ¬u¬) |
| 13:17 |
RealBadAngel |
as long as im Maciej Kasatkin, former member of E.S.I. demoscene group |
| 13:17 |
RealBadAngel |
its my fucking game |
| 13:18 |
Lumpio- |
Ah, East block huh |
| 13:18 |
Lumpio- |
No wonder you're so cocky |
| 13:18 |
RealBadAngel |
no wonder you dont understand some things ;) |
| 13:19 |
RealBadAngel |
the idea of snake is as old as computers are |
| 13:19 |
Lumpio- |
I know, but that specific one |
| 13:19 |
RealBadAngel |
i just did it for certain platform |
| 13:19 |
Lumpio- |
Where you have a cramped maze and you need to choose your path carefully so you don't get into a dead end |
| 13:20 |
RealBadAngel |
thats a tiny bit ive added to it |
| 13:20 |
Lumpio- |
(Which is kind of the same as the endgame in any snake game, but still) |
| 13:20 |
Lumpio- |
I know, but it's a pretty neat idea. |
| 13:20 |
Lumpio- |
Remake it for Android and make some cash |
| 13:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i shall remake it for PC |
| 13:20 |
RealBadAngel |
but its not so easy :) |
| 13:21 |
RealBadAngel |
its Z80 code |
| 13:21 |
RealBadAngel |
stored on tapes |
| 13:21 |
Lumpio- |
Well you have that video |
| 13:21 |
Lumpio- |
Just look at it and do the same |
| 13:21 |
RealBadAngel |
dunno if theyre readable |
| 13:21 |
Lumpio- |
It's not like it has to run exactly the same |
| 13:21 |
RealBadAngel |
still a good idea |
| 13:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i made several puzzle games like this one |
| 13:22 |
RealBadAngel |
hah |
| 13:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i can download it lol |
| 13:23 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 put the disc images with it free to download |
| 13:23 |
RealBadAngel |
funny |
| 13:23 |
Lumpio- |
oh no, call the copyright police |
| 13:23 |
Lumpio- |
¬u¬ |
| 13:23 |
RealBadAngel |
im feelin like a dinosaur rite now |
| 13:24 |
Lumpio- |
Do you still code? |
| 13:24 |
RealBadAngel |
now c++ and lua as a hobby |
| 13:24 |
Lumpio- |
k |
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| 13:26 |
RealBadAngel |
talkin of which |
| 13:26 |
RealBadAngel |
im goin back to code Constructor |
| 13:26 |
RealBadAngel |
i got almost all textures rdy, now to make it work |
| 13:27 |
RealBadAngel |
its goin to be pretty neat device |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
up to 3 inventory slots |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
and on mesecons signal it gonna deploy them in a line in front of it |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
next pulse takes them away |
| 13:29 |
Lumpio- |
mese 8D |
| 13:29 |
RealBadAngel |
so really huge doors will be possible to make |
| 13:30 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0&feature=plcp |
| 13:30 |
RealBadAngel |
its gonna be like nodebreaker and deployer in one |
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| 13:45 |
PilzAdam |
where is the code in c++ that turns dirt to grass? |
| 13:49 |
RealBadAngel |
i believe its in lua |
| 13:49 |
PilzAdam |
no its not |
| 13:50 |
RealBadAngel |
are you sure? |
| 13:50 |
PilzAdam |
80% |
| 13:51 |
RealBadAngel |
lemme grep somethin |
| 13:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i think youre right |
| 13:53 |
PilzAdam |
its content_abm.c |
| 13:54 |
PilzAdam |
just found it |
| 13:54 |
Taoki |
Any news as to when biomes are going to be scripted in LUA as well? Still waiting for this feature :P |
| 13:54 |
PilzAdam |
this is one of the few thinks you cant do in lua |
| 13:56 |
RealBadAngel |
content_abm.cpp |
| 13:56 |
RealBadAngel |
its here |
| 13:56 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> its content_abm.c |
| 13:56 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> just found it |
| 13:56 |
PilzAdam |
??? |
| 13:56 |
RealBadAngel |
heh |
| 13:57 |
RealBadAngel |
i was doin research too :) |
| 13:57 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Its planned to be able to |
| 13:57 |
RealBadAngel |
just wrote what i found without reading previous messages :) |
| 13:59 |
RealBadAngel |
but this way youre 110% sure you found the right thing lol |
| 14:04 |
OldCoder |
Hello |
| 14:05 |
Taoki |
Also: Hasn't the anaglyph stereo patch been put in master yet? IIRC it's been there for months and working flawlessly |
| 14:06 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, ask Oldcoder bout merging it |
| 14:06 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, hi. I'm accepting diff -ruN patches now |
| 14:07 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Ok. I still have the patch file around here, does it work if I pastebin it? |
| 14:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, No |
| 14:07 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, and ask VanessaE to put the GUI option for it into menu |
| 14:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, paste wrecks whitespace |
| 14:07 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: I'll send the file then, just a sec |
| 14:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, post a ZIP or .tar.gz of the patch somewhere please |
| 14:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, DCC doesn't seem to work for me |
| 14:07 |
Taoki |
The patch is a little old but should still work. Code should be easy to copy by hand if needed, it's not a lot |
| 14:08 |
Taoki |
sure |
| 14:08 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, How much is not a lot? |
| 14:08 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, problem is not work; it's safety |
| 14:08 |
RealBadAngel |
you guys need maybe ftp? |
| 14:08 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, yes |
| 14:08 |
RealBadAngel |
i can make public one |
| 14:08 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, no |
| 14:08 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, that is not safe |
| 14:08 |
Taoki |
it's safe so no worries |
| 14:08 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on |
| 14:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, do you know how I can make diffs from GitHuB? |
| 14:09 |
OldCoder |
*GitHub? |
| 14:09 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Already have the diff, here it is: http://www.filedropper.com/anaglyphstereodiff |
| 14:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Reviewing |
| 14:09 |
Taoki |
I ckeched with Kompare and it should still be all compatible with the latest MineTest GIT |
| 14:10 |
Taoki |
I also tried it with stereo glasses and it looked as splendid as in MC :) |
| 14:10 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, that needs Flash I think and I don't have it. Use http://sendspace.com/ |
| 14:10 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, a private FTP would be safe |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, You could PM people information |
| 14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
host realbadangel.pl |
| 14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
user u61493671-minetest |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, no |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, stop now |
| 14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
password: minetest |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Do NOT make a public FTP |
| 14:11 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tki347 |
| 14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
i just did :) |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, see PM |
| 14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
its safe |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, delete the FTP or you are vulnerable |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, see PM |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, downloading |
| 14:12 |
RealBadAngel |
its a VPS |
| 14:13 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Not the point. See PM. Taoki I will add the patch if it works shortly. Is it server and client side or just one or the other? |
| 14:13 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: I think only client |
| 14:13 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Also, to minetest.example.conf, I believe you should add: |
| 14:13 |
Taoki |
anaglyph = 0 |
| 14:13 |
Taoki |
anaglyph_strength = 0.1 |
| 14:14 |
Taoki |
The patch might not have these two |
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| 14:14 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I will build a Windows client now to test |
| 14:14 |
OldCoder |
It will take a while |
| 14:15 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: I'm not sure if server might be needed too. I doubt however... can't tell for sure though |
| 14:15 |
Taoki |
Might wanna build both just to be sure, if it doesn't take much longer |
| 14:15 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, it is fine |
| 14:15 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 14:16 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, take a look at VanessaE patch that added GUI options for mipmaping and filtering |
| 14:17 |
RealBadAngel |
this way you can have it both in config and in GUI |
| 14:17 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Also, nice to see someone so interested and quick in merging patches by other users :) IIRC celeron55 isn't quite as open and happy with that, and usually likes making changes by himself |
| 14:17 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, all right. Proceeding now. Time will be required. |
| 14:17 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Nice. I'd rather not apply patches just for that right now... if it's good I imagine it will be in |
| 14:17 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Are the settings in latest GIT master however? Can I already try them by enabling them in the config? |
| 14:18 |
Taoki |
Don't need the GUI if so since I know to edit the conf file |
| 14:18 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/267 |
| 14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
GUI is well, a GUI. comfortable way to set things |
| 14:19 |
Taoki |
yeah. But are the settings themselves in the code? |
| 14:19 |
Taoki |
The GUI I can wait for to be in master |
| 14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
| 14:19 |
Taoki |
nice! |
| 14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
read the patch |
| 14:20 |
RealBadAngel |
she is adding 4 new variables to config and made them aviable under settings tab also |
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| 14:23 |
Taoki |
Trying the settings without the GUI patch, for some reason they don't work |
| 14:23 |
Taoki |
eg: anisotropic_filter = 16 in minetest.conf |
| 14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/menu.png |
| 14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
you need build with the settings |
| 14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-25cf375-extrafilters_chkbox-win32.7z |
| 14:24 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: I need to build MineTest with special settings? |
| 14:24 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, details |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
And I'm on Linux not Win32 |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
with a patch |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
ah |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
I thought the code itself is already in GIT |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
btw values are 0 or 1 |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
0 turns it off, 1 for on |
| 14:26 |
RealBadAngel |
the code is in pull request |
| 14:26 |
RealBadAngel |
and no c55 around for weeks |
| 14:26 |
RealBadAngel |
thats why we are forkin |
| 14:26 |
Taoki |
Who is forking? |
| 14:27 |
Taoki |
I hope MineTest doesn't slipt into multiple projects still |
| 14:27 |
RealBadAngel |
some folks tired of waiting weeks or months for single line patches |
| 14:28 |
Taoki |
That part I agree on |
| 14:28 |
Taoki |
Problem is c55 doesn't let others handle pull requests. I understand him being safe about his work, but he should really fix that, otherwise things won't get anywhere |
| 14:28 |
RealBadAngel |
he is just bored propably |
| 14:28 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, details about special settings to build |
| 14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
he was talkin in this manner here |
| 14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
"if" "if ever" and so on |
| 14:29 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: What do you mean? |
| 14:30 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Anyway, I think someone should contact him about it and we should find a solution to this. But, OldCoder seems to be around and from what I understand he has merge rights, so there are other devs |
| 14:30 |
RealBadAngel |
that might be a pulse for c55 to wake up |
| 14:30 |
Taoki |
hope so, that would be nice |
| 14:30 |
OldCoder |
<Taoki> RealBadAngel: I need to build MineTest with special settings? |
| 14:30 |
OldCoder |
Never mind |
| 14:31 |
OldCoder |
I see the ? now |
| 14:31 |
RealBadAngel |
either he gives rights to merge to some1 else |
| 14:31 |
RealBadAngel |
or declares hes out |
| 14:31 |
Taoki |
BTW. You can find c55 in #minetest-delta, but he doesn't like being bothered there I think |
| 14:31 |
RealBadAngel |
or get back to work |
| 14:31 |
Taoki |
But yeah, I do hope he says something soon |
| 14:32 |
Taoki |
Wouldn't want to see anyone "robbing him of his project", but if he keeps it from progressing by no one else being able to merge I can understand that |
| 14:32 |
RealBadAngel |
i would love to see him back |
| 14:32 |
RealBadAngel |
sittin there and answering even a newbie questions |
| 14:32 |
Taoki |
He doesn't like doing that IIRC. He gets upset easily for some reason... never really understood |
| 14:33 |
RealBadAngel |
he did |
| 14:33 |
RealBadAngel |
it was for like 2 weeks or so |
| 14:33 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, your patch downloaded as some type of HTML junk. Please FTP it. Ask RealBadAngel in PM for details. |
| 14:33 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Weird, it's a zip file. |
| 14:33 |
RealBadAngel |
use the ftp |
| 14:33 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 14:33 |
OldCoder |
Use the FTP |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
sure |
| 14:34 |
PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
Anyway, if I remember right, c55 left this channel because he was sick of people asking him noob questions |
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| 14:36 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Taoki indicate when patch is ready |
| 14:36 |
Taoki |
sure |
| 14:36 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, two settings have been added to all my .conf files |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, hmmm that was maybe before |
| 14:38 |
OldCoder |
Is patch uploaded? |
| 14:39 |
RealBadAngel |
but when i joined the community at the start i never seen him here |
| 14:39 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Not yet |
| 14:39 |
RealBadAngel |
then were kinda situation between developers, VanessaE told him a few words |
| 14:40 |
RealBadAngel |
and he started to listen to the community |
| 14:40 |
RealBadAngel |
makin some patches |
| 14:40 |
RealBadAngel |
it lasted 2 weeks or so, then he dissapeared again |
| 14:40 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Never mind |
| 14:40 |
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| 14:40 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I used a different browser |
| 14:40 |
OldCoder |
Have it now |
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| 14:41 |
Taoki |
ok. Still connecting |
| 14:41 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Ah, the patch? |
| 14:41 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, yes. Proceeding. |
| 14:41 |
Taoki |
ok. No need to put it on FTP then |
| 14:41 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, you could wait a bit :) he would have then an ftp client :) |
| 14:42 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: I do now lol |
| 14:42 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 14:42 |
RealBadAngel |
good |
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| 14:42 |
RealBadAngel |
it will be useful in the future |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
One broken piece |
| 14:44 |
OldCoder |
Merging |
| 14:44 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Anyway, can you merge to the actual minetest origin / master? I mean did c55 give you write access, or are you merging to a fork? |
| 14:45 |
RealBadAngel |
fork |
| 14:45 |
Taoki |
ahhhh |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I do not have write access to anything that I know of |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Your patch |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
will go live in the wild shortly |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
You can run it |
| 14:45 |
OldCoder |
15 worlds will have it |
| 14:45 |
RealBadAngel |
Nexus is the word |
| 14:45 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel, OldCoder: What is the origin of this fork then? I'm switching from c55's as well if it's stis slow |
| 14:46 |
Taoki |
Which is the one I'm still using |
| 14:46 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, It is a recent git pull |
| 14:46 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, If you have speedup patches indicate them |
| 14:46 |
OldCoder |
Working now |
| 14:46 |
Taoki |
git pull? I mean the origin of the fork |
| 14:46 |
RealBadAngel |
patches can hang on official git |
| 14:47 |
RealBadAngel |
but are merged into Oldcoders one |
| 14:47 |
Taoki |
What is the origin of the fork you and OldCoder have? |
| 14:47 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, this was the origin: |
| 14:47 |
OldCoder |
git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git |
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| 14:48 |
Taoki |
i think it's the one i already have |
| 14:48 |
RealBadAngel |
if u dont like "forking" word you can name it "spooning" ;) |
| 14:49 |
Taoki |
it's ok :) |
| 14:49 |
Taoki |
I like forking, just worried that splitting the project in too many pieces could have its downsides |
| 14:49 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, there are minor differences. I am merging. |
| 14:49 |
Taoki |
Anyway, my GIT origin is https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git |
| 14:49 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Of course |
| 14:49 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 already said here that forking sounds to him as fuckin the pigs ;) |
| 14:49 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, your copy is out of date |
| 14:49 |
Taoki |
Is it the correct one? |
| 14:50 |
Taoki |
What do I chance it to? |
| 14:50 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, make the tree public somehow |
| 14:50 |
RealBadAngel |
on github? |
| 14:51 |
RealBadAngel |
and allow others to patch it |
| 14:51 |
Taoki |
Also, what's the GIT command to create a new origin and swtich between those? In Windows I had TortoiseGIT, now in Linux I kinda need to do some things by console |
| 14:52 |
RealBadAngel |
im using windows GIT client |
| 14:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Yes |
| 14:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, But one step at a time |
| 14:52 |
RealBadAngel |
all GUI, no commands |
| 14:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, That is not possible today |
| 14:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, but source tarball will go online |
| 14:53 |
OldCoder |
when this is automated |
| 14:53 |
RealBadAngel |
brb |
| 14:56 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, your patch is merged. Will build shortly. |
| 14:56 |
Taoki |
thanks |
| 14:56 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: What is the remote URL for GIT however? For your version, as I'm still on c55's |
| 14:56 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Explain your question |
| 14:57 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: What is the GIT remote for your fork of MineTest? I'm still on celeron55's |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
Taoki, what is this patch you speak of?> |
| 14:58 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, this was started recently because I needed to rebuild the servers anyway. I have not GitHubbed this yet. I will provide you with a tarball. For now your own sources are fine. |
| 14:58 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Anaglyph stereo for people with 3D glasses |
| 14:58 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, a new patch for anaglyphic |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
oh mu. |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
my. |
| 14:58 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: ok |
| 15:01 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: what's your repo URL? |
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| 15:02 |
Octupus |
hi |
| 15:03 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, hi! |
| 15:04 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, news: I am adding more MT patches |
| 15:04 |
Octupus |
hi :) |
| 15:04 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, Hello |
| 15:04 |
Octupus |
cool |
| 15:04 |
Octupus |
i have some news for you also |
| 15:04 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: so..? |
| 15:04 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, I have a repo for real world projects. Have not formally forked and uploaded MT but will make tarballs available. Repo to follow if this continues |
| 15:04 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, go on |
| 15:04 |
thexyz |
ok |
| 15:05 |
Octupus |
talk on m13 channel |
| 15:05 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, this is just this last week; I merged patches |
| 15:05 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, because I needed to fix server crashes anyway |
| 15:09 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, server fixes seem to have helped |
| 15:09 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, they are in the build settings |
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| 15:13 |
RealBadAngel |
hi Jeija |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
@#minetest: would anyone like jungles to appear alongside deserts and plans and such> |
| 15:14 |
Jeija |
Hi everyone, hi RealBadAngel |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
+1 |
| 15:14 |
* Jordach |
misses the 0.3 jungles |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
and the landgen in the older versions were better |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
Jeija any chance for mesecons wires be placeable on walls? |
| 15:14 |
Jeija |
+1 and maybe some other biomes would be awesome |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
jeija: im sure they are easy to code |
| 15:15 |
Jeija |
I think so, I guess I give it a try next week |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
ill also look into adding other types of trees |
| 15:15 |
RealBadAngel |
Jeija: lookin forward to it :) |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Jeija, Hi. Are you WorldEdit? |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
I don't recall |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
dev* |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, yes |
| 15:16 |
* Jordach |
is a grammar yahtzee |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 15:16 |
Jeija |
maybe we could have some more realistic biomes, not tundra next to desert like in minecraft |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
Jeija, use two perlin noises |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
one for heat |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
and the other wetness |
| 15:17 |
OldCoder |
That is Uberi |
| 15:17 |
Jeija |
yep |
| 15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
we definitely need more biomes |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest is now like an new, open and empty closet |
| 15:19 |
hmmmm |
RealBadAngel, that's already being taken care of |
| 15:19 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Ok, fixed setting up some of my GIT problems. So, if I understand right, your fork does not have a GIT yet. Is that correct? If not I would like to have the origin of the currently active MineTest |
| 15:19 |
Taoki |
I'm currently on celeron55's GIT remote, and would like to include yours (or the remote of that fork RealBadAngel mentioned that is more active) |
| 15:20 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I don't follow. (a) I started with the git clone link that I posted above. (b) I may create a repo soon. BTW I am rebuilding server and client with your patch shortly. |
| 15:21 |
hmmmm |
taoki, what's your patch? |
| 15:21 |
OldCoder |
git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git |
| 15:21 |
RealBadAngel |
taoki, you mean u can merge to main tree now? |
| 15:21 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Yeah. The GIT clone link you posted is the one I'm on now, which is mostly inactive. And (b) was my question... so there is no repo yet. Let me know when you make one please |
| 15:21 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, what I am doing presently is this: (a) Start with a tarball of that. (b) Add patches. (c) Compile. |
| 15:21 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, All right |
| 15:21 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, One step at a time |
| 15:21 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: not sure what you mean |
| 15:22 |
hmmmm |
??? |
| 15:22 |
RealBadAngel |
you said youre on c55 git remote |
| 15:22 |
Taoki |
hmmmm: Adds anaglyph stereo. Someone else made the code but I still have the patch |
| 15:22 |
hmmmm |
oh that |
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Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Currently yes. Was looking for the remote of the new active fork, but OldCoder said there isn't one yet so I'll be waiting for that |
| 15:23 |
RealBadAngel |
ah so |
| 15:23 |
hmmmm |
i might get push access soon, so i'd be able to add the patch to upstream |
| 15:23 |
* RealBadAngel |
is going back to Constructor code |
| 15:24 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, what I am doing now is regenerating a fresh source tree on every build using patches. I will put all of that online. |
| 15:24 |
Taoki |
sure |
| 15:24 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: |Will a GIT repo exist tonight? It's ok if not, just curious |
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RealBadAngel |
cornernote can we talk PM? |
| 15:26 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, if you only knew. Things are happening in real life and I probably don't have time for any of this. The setup will evolve one step at a time. |
| 15:26 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 15:26 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I sort of lost my home yesterday |
| 15:26 |
Taoki |
oh :( |
| 15:26 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 15:26 |
OldCoder |
One step at a time. We'll see what develops. |
| 15:26 |
Taoki |
that's bad... hope you get it solved |
| 15:26 |
Taoki |
sure |
| 15:26 |
OldCoder |
I am working on the builds |
| 15:26 |
Taoki |
For now, is there any other origin of minetest that's actually a bit active? |
| 15:26 |
OldCoder |
If you are patient you will see your stuff soon |
| 15:27 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Several people have forks. But I am actually putting them online live. |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
Taoki, there is no active part of minetest# |
| 15:27 |
RealBadAngel |
folks are on hold because c55 is away |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
also, once all the patches are done: we add to the OldCoder fork |
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| 15:30 |
RealBadAngel |
somethin to chill out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tb3Ax7Nt7o :) |
| 15:32 |
Calinou |
GANGNAM STYLE |
| 15:32 |
Calinou |
OP OP OP OP OP |
| 15:33 |
Jordach |
FFS |
| 15:33 |
Jordach |
drop gangham style |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
or i leave the channel |
| 15:34 |
Calinou |
http://tinyurl.com/openal :D |
| 15:35 |
Calinou |
if anyone needs to link to openal |
| 15:35 |
thexyz |
Jordach: don't you like it? |
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| 15:36 |
* PilzAdam |
is back |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
wb pills |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
:p |
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| 15:47 |
Octupus |
hi szden |
| 15:47 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, see PM. Others: I added cornernote node ownership after surveying people. Octupus prefers randomproof version. Do others like one or the other? |
| 15:48 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=846 |
| 15:48 |
OldCoder |
^ randomproof version |
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Octupus |
hi m13 |
| 15:51 |
M13 |
hi |
| 15:54 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Is there a list of all the mods and codes and patches you will be adding to your GIT remote once it will be up (what we'll find there)? |
| 15:54 |
Taoki |
I'm curious :) |
| 15:56 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel, OldCoder: Also, before taking a decision, make sure to poke celeron55_ here on IRC to see if he does respond. He is online, and can be found in #minetest-delta. Maybe someone can convince him to give write access to more people on his remote |
| 15:56 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, not just a list; everything will be linked online automatically |
| 15:56 |
Taoki |
oh, nice! |
| 15:56 |
RealBadAngel |
vanessae did |
| 15:56 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, C55 will be happier if I approach him carefully |
| 15:56 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, here is a list now: |
| 15:57 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
Not linked yet but it will be: |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/ |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
That is just the mods |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
What I will do is this: |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
When the software is rebuilt, all the mods will be automatically linked and the source code for the server plus the patches will appear automatically |
| 15:57 |
M13 |
um OldCoderr does ur box have a floppy? |
| 15:58 |
M13 |
zdrive |
| 15:58 |
OldCoder |
I use my own versions of the mods. My versions will be linked. |
| 15:58 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 15:58 |
OldCoder |
M13, if you count virtual boxes yes |
| 15:58 |
M13 |
o ok |
| 15:58 |
RealBadAngel |
no floppy, just a tape recorder ;) |
| 15:58 |
OldCoder |
ha |
| 15:58 |
M13 |
Try My Flavor of kolibri |
| 15:58 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: So a program will take the source codes of all patches out there and automatically integrate them? |
| 15:59 |
Taoki |
I imagine contributors need to know where to post them though. Also, a way to make sure only safe patches are added, so trolls don't ruin everything |
| 15:59 |
Taoki |
Anyway, BRB |
| 15:59 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, not "out there". They are not compatible. I am merging them manually. Your own patch had a .rej. |
| 15:59 |
Taoki |
ah, ok |
| 15:59 |
Taoki |
sure |
| 15:59 |
OldCoder |
M13, what did you do to Kolibri? |
| 15:59 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I am compiling now |
| 16:00 |
OldCoder |
New server and anaglyphic clients are en route |
| 16:00 |
OldCoder |
allow time |
| 16:00 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: I'm going for a bit. But when it's ready please poke me and give me a link as well, I'd like to see |
| 16:00 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, all right |
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| 16:07 |
RealBadAngel |
just a thought, could some1 make use of GLSL shaders? |
| 16:07 |
Octupus |
hm this jailbreak is taking longer than usual |
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| 16:08 |
Octupus |
:l |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
loljailbreak |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
too bad, you have an apple product |
| 16:08 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, you will escape the jail! |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
btw: jailbreaks ARE illegal, they're copyright infringement |
| 16:08 |
OldCoder |
Bullshit |
| 16:09 |
OldCoder |
No offense intended |
| 16:09 |
OldCoder |
<--- Views have evolved |
| 16:09 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kubT9_IiCmo |
| 16:09 |
OldCoder |
They are no such thing |
| 16:09 |
OldCoder |
Escape the jail! |
| 16:10 |
Octupus |
YES i Will :D |
| 16:10 |
Dacicus |
Hello. I'm using Minetest 0.4.3 on Win7. Is there some way to determine my current coordinates in the game world? |
| 16:10 |
Octupus |
id care if its illegal anyways |
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| 16:12 |
thexyz |
Calinou: how can jailbreak be copyright infringement? |
| 16:15 |
Octupus |
lalalala stupid hackulous |
| 16:15 |
Octupus |
packages take so long :l |
| 16:15 |
PilzAdam |
Dacicus, press F5 |
| 16:15 |
RealBadAngel |
Dacicus, press F5 |
| 16:15 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 16:15 |
RealBadAngel |
hhehehe |
| 16:16 |
thexyz |
well, hackulous thing IS illegal |
| 16:16 |
Octupus |
i dont care actually |
| 16:16 |
Octupus |
they cant charge me :) |
| 16:17 |
thexyz |
i don't understand people who mess with jailbreak instead of paying 0.99$ |
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| 16:17 |
Octupus |
apps are way over priced |
| 16:17 |
thexyz |
0.99 is overpriced? |
| 16:17 |
Octupus |
Yes |
| 16:17 |
* PilzAdam |
downloads RoR |
| 16:18 |
thexyz |
Octupus: where are you from? |
| 16:18 |
Octupus |
for the shitty quality it gives u |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
thexyz: decompiling code, modifying it, recompiling it, distributing it |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
all these are disallowed |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
do you know: some commercial software licenses disallow TRANSLATING? |
| 16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
how much do you pay for a snickers? |
| 16:18 |
Octupus |
my parents say not to give persol information XD |
| 16:18 |
Dacicus |
PilzAdam, RealBadAngel: Thanks! |
| 16:18 |
thexyz |
Calinou: you don't decompile anything when you do jailbreak |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
Dacicus: F5 and see top left of screen |
| 16:18 |
PilzAdam |
Dacicus, you are welcome |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
the Y (second) coordinate being altitude over sea |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
or under :P |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
thexyz: then RAM hax |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
still, distributing it is illegal |
| 16:19 |
thexyz |
well, using != distributing |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
U.S. servers going down briefly |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
And licenses are licenses; not laws |
| 16:20 |
OldCoder |
Has anybody commented on the node ownership issue above? |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
Octupus: how old are you? |
| 16:23 |
Muadtralk |
im assuming 12-21 |
| 16:23 |
Muadtralk |
living somewhere in the swouthern part of the USA |
| 16:23 |
Muadtralk |
am i right octupus? |
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| 16:23 |
thexyz |
Cayman Islands |
| 16:24 |
thexyz |
i guess |
| 16:24 |
OldCoder |
U.S. servers are restarted. Indicate odd problems if any. |
| 16:24 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, spawnpoint changed as you wished and default privs too |
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* Jordach |
read servers are restarted as retarded |
| 16:31 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wtcWuJecJA&feature=relmfu |
| 16:31 |
OldCoder |
huh |
| 16:32 |
Jordach |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48342#p48342 IRONY |
| 16:32 |
Jordach |
envoyxiphos griefed LM's server |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
i wish he had not |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
is Envoy around/ |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
please ask him not to do this |
| 16:32 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, i call that somewhat a irony |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
But not the point, is it? |
| 16:32 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, dunno what to do |
| 16:32 |
OldCoder |
Griefwar will not help |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
Nothing I guess |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
But tell Envoy |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
he probably knows its his fault |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
"Anyhow removed lava with a abm so its clean. We got constant map backups people so its safe to come and play with us :)" |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
I have overlooked some things I have heard about Envoy before |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
And given him a world |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
Focus on your own world Envoy |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
Jordach and others: Is that fair? |
| 16:34 |
OldCoder |
Somebody |
| 16:34 |
OldCoder |
Pass that message on to him |
| 16:34 |
OldCoder |
He wants to keep op in his world |
| 16:34 |
OldCoder |
Work there |
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| 16:34 |
OldCoder |
If LM sees the above please note it: We do not encourage griefing of any kind |
| 16:35 |
OldCoder |
Except in griefworlds where it is the standard |
| 16:35 |
Octupus |
MuadTralk u are correct |
| 16:35 |
Octupus |
thexyz u are also correct |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
a bit more of GLSL shaders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njKdLvmBl88 |
| 16:36 |
iqualfragile |
have they updated it? |
| 16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
combination of all of those effects is simply amazing |
| 16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raR9kd0fGuY&feature=related |
| 16:40 |
FreeFull |
I prefer to write my fragment shaders to display procedural stuff rather than for doing stuff with 3D stuff |
| 16:40 |
FreeFull |
So I have two triangles covering the screen |
| 16:40 |
FreeFull |
And just draw on that with the fragment shader |
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| 16:41 |
FreeFull |
RealBadAngel: Apparently photorealism means everything is dark? |
| 16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
it means stone is not white as in many texture packs :) |
| 16:44 |
FreeFull |
Seriously, everything in that video is either super bright or super dark |
| 16:44 |
RealBadAngel |
seen many that made caves looks brighter than surface |
| 16:44 |
FreeFull |
That's not what reality looks like =P |
| 16:44 |
RealBadAngel |
video wasnt bout the texture pack |
| 16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
it was bout the effects that in our reach |
| 16:46 |
RealBadAngel |
if you dont like watchin MC videos, try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPf0FL4JOLE |
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| 16:47 |
FreeFull |
I didn't notice any effects other than the wobbly water then |
| 16:47 |
FreeFull |
If everything else was the texture pack =p |
| 16:48 |
FreeFull |
RealBadAngel: That last video looks incredibly 2004ish |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
sure |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
then minetest looks stoneage then |
| 16:49 |
FreeFull |
Have you seen what can be done in realtime with today's computers? |
| 16:49 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
| 16:49 |
Octupus |
i just showed my friend how to get illegal songs :) |
| 16:49 |
RealBadAngel |
im talkin bout simple effects provided by the engine |
| 16:50 |
RealBadAngel |
and not used by the game |
| 16:52 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nvNxlC3efg&list=LPm-DsG2T7rnY&index=11&feature=plcp |
| 16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
even lua scripted lol |
| 16:53 |
FreeFull |
It looks like old nvidia demos |
| 16:53 |
thexyz |
Octupus: watch_out_we_got_a_badass_over_here.xcf |
| 16:53 |
FreeFull |
Well, the old nvidia demos actually looked better |
| 16:54 |
Octupus |
? |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
FreeFull: who cares about graphics nowadays? |
| 16:54 |
Octupus |
who |
| 16:54 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, but i dont understand your sarcasm |
| 16:54 |
RealBadAngel |
it is minetest gfx engine |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
gameplay > graphics, period |
| 16:55 |
RealBadAngel |
now take ur flat players image and compare to it |
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| 16:55 |
RealBadAngel |
engine allows a lot more than the game uses |
| 16:56 |
FreeFull |
I honestly think something like delver looks better |
| 16:57 |
RealBadAngel |
delver? |
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| 16:57 |
OldCoder |
Muadtralk, wb |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
I am building new Windows clients to test Taoki change |
| 16:59 |
iqualfragile |
i dont like github… |
| 16:59 |
iqualfragile |
nah, well, github isnt that bad |
| 16:59 |
iqualfragile |
but i dislike git |
| 17:00 |
iqualfragile |
hg is much better |
| 17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
FreeFull, you may find this interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOmiCB09Hk&feature=related |
| 17:01 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, i want it other way round: my world should be created in RL |
| 17:03 |
Octupus |
thexyz,watch_out_we_got_a_badass_over_here.xcf <i dont understand that |
| 17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFKlNskaRPU&feature=related |
| 17:06 |
thexyz |
Octupus: =( |
| 17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
then let some1 make mt look like this |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
People: Xubuntu, Lubuntu OR Kubuntu? |
| 17:07 |
thexyz |
Jordach: gentoo |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
^ fuck off |
| 17:07 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, first look like terasology |
| 17:07 |
thexyz |
Jordach: well, then ubuntu |
| 17:07 |
MilanFIN |
Jordach: Xubuntu, if no multicore computer ->Lubuntu |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
MilanFIN, i have a p4 with hyperthreads |
| 17:07 |
thexyz |
and then install (x|l|k)ubuntu-desktop |
| 17:07 |
thexyz |
or whatever it's called |
| 17:08 |
* Jordach |
does not want to login to interfaces |
| 17:08 |
MilanFIN |
you don't want ubuntu |
| 17:08 |
* MilanFIN |
hates Unity |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
no. but a deriv* is fine |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
i don't understand people who create new distribution while only change is DE |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
i neither understand people who use it |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
Debian -> Ubuntu |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
Ubuntu -> SO GOD DAMN MANY |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
but there's no need in kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu/etc |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu |
| 17:09 |
MilanFIN |
ubuntu is bad choose anyway, |
| 17:09 |
MilanFIN |
mean any *Buntu |
| 17:10 |
MilanFIN |
cause they dropped oss support :/ |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
i also don't understand people who install non-supported shit used by 10 people |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
6 eg: minetest |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
s/6/^ |
| 17:12 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I lean towards Mint. But I feel KDE is on its way out. |
| 17:13 |
OldCoder |
So not Kubuntu IIRC |
| 17:13 |
Muadtralk |
Razor-qt anyone? |
| 17:13 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, i HATE GNOME 3 |
| 17:15 |
* Jordach |
uses a 22gb partiton for Linux |
| 17:15 |
* PilzAdam |
uses 19 GiB |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
Wubi.exe: Y U DOWNLOAD AMD64 ON A 32BIT SYSTEM |
| 17:16 |
PilzAdam |
BECAUSE U SLECTED IT? |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
no. |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/g0AMG.png |
| 17:17 |
PilzAdam |
AMD64 is the new standard; you have to select x32 yourself |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
well, i use ~17gb partition only for swap.. |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
lol thexyz |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
Muadtralk: nope |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
just use 1GB or so |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
who the fuck uses suspend to disk |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
<MilanFIN> Jordach: Xubuntu, if no multicore computer ->Lubuntu |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
debian > all |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
(especially testing) |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
DISTRO WAR STARTED |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Then MATE is the answer |
| 17:18 |
PilzAdam |
Kubunut ftw! |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
+1 for mate |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
I do not wish GNOME 3 either |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, MINT is INTeresting |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
ubuntu users can't even speak their distro name correctly |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
xfce :D |
| 17:18 |
PilzAdam |
</distro war> |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
mate is cool too, but slower |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
xfce is featureless |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
who needs feature |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
see gnome 3 |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
well, i do |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
features? useless! linus torvalds switched to xfce now |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
still don't understand why xfce isn't default DE for debian now |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
there was a RUMOR |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
<_< |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
lxde is featureless actually |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
"the second worst tends to be the best" as always 8) |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: ewww KDE |
| 17:20 |
thexyz |
that's why i don't use it |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: mint is slow, very slow |
| 17:20 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, ty. Why? |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
lots of crapware, more than ubuntu |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
debian is pretty much a crapware-free ubuntu, 15% harder to install |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 17:21 |
iqualfragile |
archlinux is basicly package-management |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
and it's made by a non-commercial organization |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
unlike ubuntu |
| 17:21 |
Octupus |
im building a bank :D |
| 17:21 |
iqualfragile |
and you get to build your own litle linux from that |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
arch is hard :P |
| 17:22 |
iqualfragile |
nah, not realy |
| 17:22 |
iqualfragile |
as long as you read the news |
| 17:22 |
iqualfragile |
otherwise you can destroy your setup |
| 17:22 |
iqualfragile |
because sometimes you need to do some manual action before updates |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
The blue looks disgusting: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: installing it isn't even fun, have to chroot everywhere, there's no installer at all |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
and arch is unstable |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
very |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
Calinou: arch is not gentoo |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
debian testing is mostly stable (more stable than ubuntu at least :P) |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
you don't need to chroot anywere |
| 17:24 |
OldCoder |
I built my own Linux. Problem solved. |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
beginners' guide requires you to chroot once :P |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: RebeccaBlackOS? |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
we need PsyOS now... |
| 17:24 |
iqualfragile |
calinou: have you actualy tried installing arch? |
| 17:24 |
iqualfragile |
it has an installer |
| 17:25 |
iqualfragile |
and you only need to chroot 3 times in gentoo |
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| 17:28 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: yes, in virtualbox |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
the partitioning is FUN |
| 17:28 |
thexyz |
iqualfragile: afaik, it has no installer now |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
harshlinux removed their installer |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
"Hi. We Know everyone uses Vim here. Thats good. Now I removed installer. Bai." |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
~arch devs |
| 17:29 |
thexyz |
Calinou: did you try gentoo? |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
no |
| 17:29 |
iqualfragile |
i dont see the problem… |
| 17:29 |
cosarara97 |
No installer -> more fun |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
it isn't fun to spend time reading manpages |
| 17:31 |
cosarara97 |
it's boring when a program does everything for you, if that everything is not an easy and long thing |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
manpages suck enough already |
| 17:31 |
cosarara97 |
I don't remember having to read lots of manpages (installed arch like 2 weeks ago) |
| 17:31 |
cosarara97 |
maybe 3 or 4 weeks, actually |
| 17:32 |
cosarara97 |
everything is explained in the wiki, it's an easy process |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
and it doesn't work for me as every single process on the internet :> |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
making the system actually usable is fun too </sarcasm> |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
second reason I hate arch |
| 17:34 |
iqualfragile |
hmm… |
| 17:34 |
cosarara97 |
I think it IS fun |
| 17:34 |
iqualfragile |
it realy is easy |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
oh fuck.DISTRO WAR |
| 17:48 |
cosarara97 |
it stopped already, I think |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
so no Kubuntu ftw anymore? |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
+1 |
| 17:49 |
* Jordach |
is getting Kubuntu |
| 17:49 |
iqualfragile |
windows ftw! |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
i also agree qith iqualfragile |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
i cant use linux for everyday since i have grown up with Windows |
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| 17:50 |
FreeFull |
I have grown up with MS-DOS |
| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
i also grew up with window$, but i learned how to use linux and now i can use every (relevant) OS |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
MS-DOS heh |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
No distro war |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
To each their own |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
Even DOS and Windows |
| 17:52 |
FreeFull |
=P |
| 17:52 |
iqualfragile |
darwin ftw! |
| 17:52 |
thexyz |
Jordach: why can't you? |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
Kubuntu has no 600mb isos |
| 17:54 |
thexyz |
is your internet connection such shitty? |
| 17:54 |
OldCoder |
netinstalls are smalls |
| 17:54 |
OldCoder |
at first |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
thexyz, if i can sit a 16gb torrent then yes |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
i just want something to fir a normal cd-rw |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
s/fir/fit |
| 17:55 |
thexyz |
nobody uses CDs now |
| 17:55 |
thexyz |
if you need something to boot from use USB stick |
| 17:56 |
Muadtralk |
or external hard drive or floppy disk |
| 17:56 |
Muadtralk |
or something |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
my tower is an acer so no usb boot |
| 17:56 |
thexyz |
how so? |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
2006 |
| 17:56 |
thexyz |
what motherboard model is it? |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
SiS 661GX |
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OldCoder |
<Calinou> OldCoder: RebeccaBlackOS? |
| 18:00 |
OldCoder |
Not familiar with it |
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thexyz |
Jordach: that's not a motherboard model |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/1292912/ |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
Acer E661GXM (Socket 775)48 °C |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, do your apple trees work now? |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
dunno |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
link me the build |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
Jordach: well, at least I can say thanks for your serial number |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, wait a minute. New Windows client being set up right now. |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
thexyz, registered |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
also from the OEM disk |
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Taoki |
back |
| 18:05 |
cosarara97 |
hi |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
nice AV you have the Jordach |
| 18:06 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Fun fun. Will you only be making Windoes binaries? I imagine you don't have Linux as well then |
| 18:06 |
Jordach |
OldCoder runs linux |
| 18:06 |
Jordach |
SHITSICLES |
| 18:06 |
cosarara97 |
Who wants linux binaries? Linux users are intelligent :D |
| 18:06 |
Taoki |
oh nice :) |
| 18:06 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I have my own Linux distro :-) |
| 18:06 |
Taoki |
eh... some are noobs like me :P |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I will certainly be building Linux clients |
| 18:07 |
Taoki |
own linux distro? |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
One moment |
| 18:07 |
cosarara97 |
Taoki: Don't you want to learn compiling programs? |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistrogames.html |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
Screenshots |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/distro/distrohistory.html |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
History |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
|
| 18:07 |
Taoki |
cosarara97: I do, I already compile MT from GIT. But compiling can be hard to set up and often problematic |
| 18:08 |
Taoki |
Especially on Windows, on Linux is better but still |
| 18:08 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Windows clients in a minute or so |
| 18:08 |
Jordach |
sweet |
| 18:08 |
Taoki |
and nice! |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
<cosarara97> Who wants linux binaries? Linux users are intelligent :D |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
ubuntu users are not |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
most of them don't know how to run MC because they can't chmod +x minecraft.jar |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 18:09 |
cosarara97 |
ok, true |
| 18:09 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
Jordach and others: See section 3.2 for new Windows clients |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
There is a 30MB ZIP file. This is recommended and will load much faster |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
There is a 10MB ZIP file if you prefer but it will load much slower |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
|
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OldCoder |
Taoki, you can try your feature using that client under Wine |
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OldCoder |
I will be building Linux clients as time proceeds |
| 18:12 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Wow, you really are good at this if you have an own Linux distro that runs off external drives (kinda wanted something like that). Really awesome stuff |
| 18:12 |
Taoki |
Sure, I can try that |
| 18:12 |
Calinou |
Taoki: unetbootin |
| 18:12 |
Taoki |
Would be interesting to see how MT runs on WINE. A lot of Windows games work well on it, even big and modern ones |
| 18:12 |
Calinou |
can run any distro on USB or HDD |
| 18:12 |
Calinou |
Taoki: it doesn't now iirc |
| 18:12 |
Calinou |
it used to do |
| 18:12 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Yes. I have the world on a thumbdrive. 64GB. |
| 18:12 |
Taoki |
:) |
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thexyz |
Calinou: it did for me |
| 18:14 |
thexyz |
anyway, who'd ever need that? |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
testing apples |
| 18:15 |
cosarara97 |
If it didn't work, you could help wine dev's |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
buy crossover(R) |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
useful |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, apple trees generate without bugs |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
so ive made a engine commit! |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
(if you dont want them: mapgen.lua set MAPGEN_APPLE to leaves or air |
| 18:23 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, glad to hear it! |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
bbl - taking girlfriend home |
| 18:24 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, don't I already have the commit? |
| 18:24 |
OldCoder |
ttyl |
| 18:24 |
bulletrulz |
hey |
| 18:25 |
bulletrulz |
taoki Theres lnux clients |
| 18:26 |
cosarara97 |
clientS? |
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bulletrulz |
linux client |
| 18:28 |
bulletrulz |
!? |
| 18:28 |
cosarara97 |
well, I think it's the same client |
| 18:28 |
cosarara97 |
for windows and for linux |
| 18:28 |
cosarara97 |
just different builds |
| 18:28 |
cosarara97 |
and different versions |
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cosarara97 |
ok, I said nothing |
| 18:29 |
bulletrulz |
yes |
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cosarara97 |
but yes, there are linux build out there |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, I will be making more |
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cosarara97 |
? |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
<cosarara97> but yes, there are linux build out there |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
<OldCoder> cosarara97, I will be making more |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
Seems quite clear. Not sure why ? |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
why "?" * |
| 18:30 |
bulletrulz |
yeah lol minetest belongs to linux!!! windows are build unofficial |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
But I will make both |
| 18:30 |
OldCoder |
just updated Windows now |
| 18:31 |
cosarara97 |
I thought you'd be making modified clients, lol |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
Can anybody tell me how to make a deb that forces installs of dependencies? I can make a deb but it doesn't do that |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, ?? |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
Define modified client |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
I am making clients that have features added |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
But official client seems to be dead |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
Therefore |
| 18:31 |
OldCoder |
What does modified mean? |
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| 18:32 |
OldCoder |
If people wish to get the best out of MT they will use my clients or the ones I link to |
| 18:32 |
cosarara97 |
With features added counts as modified |
| 18:32 |
OldCoder |
Relative to what? Official release appears to be dead. |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
grrr, alias recipes in furnaces appear not to work |
| 18:32 |
OldCoder |
I mean no offense to anybody |
| 18:32 |
cosarara97 |
I didn't consider it dead, but I guess it makes sense |
| 18:33 |
cosarara97 |
Will you add 3d player in your fork? |
| 18:34 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, Actually one person with 3D players asked me to remove them last night |
| 18:34 |
OldCoder |
From his code base |
| 18:34 |
OldCoder |
Apparently his approach doesn't work under Windows |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, are you aware of multiple 3D implentations? |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
Direct me to them if so |
| 18:35 |
cosarara97 |
I'm not |
| 18:35 |
cosarara97 |
But I thought 3d player in minetes++ would work under windows |
| 18:35 |
cosarara97 |
minetest |
| 18:35 |
cosarara97 |
* |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
Which 3D player? |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
Where is the code? |
| 18:36 |
cosarara97 |
Do you remember there was a fork called minetest++? |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 18:36 |
cosarara97 |
ok, one moment |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
I am not familiar with it |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
Is that the code that M13 took for his fork? |
| 18:36 |
iqualfragile |
https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
If so he indicates it is not presently Windows compatible |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
We'll need to ask them |
| 18:37 |
OldCoder |
Jordan is Jordach; is this correct? |
| 18:37 |
OldCoder |
If so, he has just left |
| 18:38 |
cosarara97 |
I think it's this one https://github.com/lkjoel/MinetestPP |
| 18:38 |
OldCoder |
O.K. I think it's more important ATM to give each player his or her own avatar... |
| 18:38 |
OldCoder |
The code to set avatar appears to be in content_sao.cpp |
| 18:38 |
OldCoder |
Grep for player.png |
| 18:39 |
OldCoder |
If anybody can tell me how to get the player nick at that level |
| 18:39 |
OldCoder |
I'll attempt the change |
| 18:39 |
rubenwardy |
Spoiler: Popcorn and Milkshakes next in the Food Mod |
| 18:40 |
cosarara97 |
jordan4ibanez and Jordach are different people |
| 18:44 |
OldCoder |
k ty |
| 18:44 |
cosarara97 |
latest version is here: https://github.com/MiJyn/BlockPlanet-old (the fork was renamed to Blockplaned, and then they moved to java, this is the latest c++ code) |
| 18:44 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, I have been told the player does not Windows well and that it is unattractive. Review if you wish and let me know about these two points. |
| 18:44 |
OldCoder |
I will be back in a few minutes |
| 18:51 |
bulletrulz |
heaven above you theres hell above me! |
| 18:52 |
Octupus |
gtg |
| 18:52 |
bulletrulz |
bye Octupus |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 18:59 |
bulletrulz |
hi OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
bulletrulz, hi |
| 19:01 |
cosarara97 |
gtg |
| 19:01 |
bulletrulz |
how u doing? |
| 19:01 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 19:02 |
* cosarara97 |
is afk |
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bulletrulz |
some people are really stubbern they get linux anti virus |
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OldCoder |
bulletrulz, Ha |
| 19:16 |
bulletrulz |
ikr |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
The primary malware on Linux is browser addons |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
That is an issue everywhere |
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iqualfragile |
the primary malware on windows is |
| 19:37 |
iqualfragile |
wait for it |
| 19:37 |
iqualfragile |
windows! |
| 19:41 |
bulletrulz |
YEP |
| 19:41 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
| 19:42 |
MiJyn |
<OldCoder> The primary malware on Linux is browser addons |
| 19:42 |
MiJyn |
umm |
| 19:42 |
iqualfragile |
there is a (official) backdoor in win8 |
| 19:42 |
MiJyn |
somewhat |
| 19:42 |
iqualfragile |
mijyn: what happened to your minetest-fork? |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
| 19:42 |
iqualfragile |
hi |
| 19:43 |
MiJyn |
iqualfragile, we just decided to end it because of a terrible base (i.e. minetest) |
| 19:43 |
iqualfragile |
would you recommend using some of the code you created for minetest? |
| 19:43 |
iqualfragile |
and: why is the base horrible? |
| 19:45 |
MiJyn |
iqualfragile, anything |
| 19:45 |
MiJyn |
anything there is great for minetest (as long as you port it, of course) |
| 19:45 |
MiJyn |
it's just so terribly oranized |
| 19:46 |
MiJyn |
*organized |
| 19:46 |
hmmmm |
the worst part about the organization is that the code is so expansive it's just about imposssible to fix it without starting from scratch |
| 19:46 |
hmmmm |
i tried to fix the_game() but i failed |
| 19:46 |
hmmmm |
it was just too big |
| 19:46 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, yep, that's the problem |
| 19:46 |
MiJyn |
I did start again |
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MiJyn |
(making a new game like minetest) |
| 19:47 |
hmmmm |
what's the project called? |
| 19:48 |
iqualfragile |
blockscape? |
| 19:48 |
MiJyn |
iqualfragile, blockplanet |
| 19:48 |
hmmmm |
oh you're the blockplanet people |
| 19:48 |
iqualfragile |
is there a webisite? |
| 19:48 |
hmmmm |
wasn't that java? |
| 19:48 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, yeah, Java |
| 19:49 |
MiJyn |
iqualfragile, none for the Java version |
| 19:49 |
hmmmm |
maybe you could've succeeded from an organizational standpoint but the only advantage blockplanet would have over minecraft would be that it's free |
| 19:50 |
MiJyn |
yeah |
| 19:50 |
MiJyn |
exactly |
| 19:50 |
MiJyn |
that's sort of why we stopped |
| 19:50 |
MiJyn |
(another reason is that I wanted to make a better game, like an adventure game or at least a FPS) |
| 19:51 |
iqualfragile |
not ANOTHER one |
| 19:51 |
hmmmm |
celeron isn't making many changes to minetest anymore and it's basically up to us to move minetest forward so there's a real chance to clean out some of the worst parts of minetest |
| 19:51 |
MiJyn |
iqualfragile, umm... what....? |
| 19:51 |
hmmmm |
i'll try again with the_game some time later, i just need more focus |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, here is one problem: |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
I tried to do that |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
I did clean up some parts |
| 19:52 |
hmmmm |
what in particular? |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
guess how open c55 was to them |
| 19:52 |
iqualfragile |
does not matter |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
well, I tried to work on content_cao (I think) |
| 19:52 |
iqualfragile |
we will start a common commuity-repos |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
got a _really_ cool API there |
| 19:52 |
hmmmm |
yeah, he's very difficult to work with also i found him to be useless for answering questions |
| 19:52 |
MiJyn |
hey, I got an idea: why don't we just start from scratch? Irrlicht is such a terrible engine |
| 19:52 |
hmmmm |
why? |
| 19:53 |
hmmmm |
what's wrong with irrlicht |
| 19:53 |
hmmmm |
i'll agree that the choice wasn't the best but it's too late now and irrlicht isn't the worst you can do |
| 19:54 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, with all the memory leaks? |
| 19:54 |
MiJyn |
what about just pure OpenGL? |
| 19:55 |
iqualfragile |
there are memleaks? they never occured to me… |
| 19:55 |
hmmmm |
i wasn't aware irrlicht had memory leaks |
| 19:55 |
hmmmm |
pure OpenGL would be fine, but you'd inevitably spend a lot more time recreating a 3d engine from scratch |
| 19:55 |
iqualfragile |
jup |
| 19:55 |
hmmmm |
to be completely honest, rendering speed isn't much of a problem (to me, anyway) |
| 19:55 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, ever read my 3D FPS in java tutorial? |
| 19:55 |
hmmmm |
no |
| 19:56 |
iqualfragile |
eew, java |
| 19:56 |
hmmmm |
yeah, hah :) java does have its problems and it's not my first choice for a game |
| 19:56 |
MiJyn |
whatever, it shows how to make one with OpenGL |
| 19:56 |
MiJyn |
you can easily port that to C++ |
| 19:57 |
hmmmm |
servlets are strangly pretty okay and java is pretty good for simple data retrieval applications |
| 19:57 |
MiJyn |
yeah |
| 19:57 |
hmmmm |
but |
| 19:57 |
hmmmm |
i wouldn't go doing games in java |
| 19:57 |
MiJyn |
it's like an example language |
| 19:57 |
hmmmm |
i guess |
| 19:57 |
MiJyn |
very easy to port anything from/to it |
| 19:57 |
MiJyn |
plus, it has the best graphics API I ever sayw |
| 19:57 |
MiJyn |
*saw |
| 19:58 |
hmmmm |
but anyway, the problem with all these "start from scratch" sort of things is that it causes lots of fragmentation and there's never enough momentum behind them for it to succeed |
| 19:58 |
MiJyn |
exaclty |
| 19:58 |
MiJyn |
*exactly |
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hmmmm |
i think we'd have more luck with cleaning out minetest |
| 19:58 |
MiJyn |
and that's one of the reasons why BlockPlanet ended |
| 19:58 |
hmmmm |
c55 is not very helpful with answering questions either |
| 19:59 |
bulletrulz |
Too Be honest Minetest is preety much dead now! |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
he doesn't even know how much of his code works |
| 19:59 |
MiJyn |
yeah, he banned me because I asked too many questions (useful ones, actually) |
| 19:59 |
MiJyn |
lol |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
he banned you? ouch |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
he didn't ban me, but he clearly doesn't like me, probably because i called him out on some shit |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
meh that's fine |
| 19:59 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, yep |
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hmmmm |
he didn't come up with the perlin noise code on his own :p |
| 20:00 |
bulletrulz |
c55 has Giving up On Minetest! |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, yeah, that was the only part of the code that was actually smart... and he didn't make it lol |
| 20:00 |
hmmmm |
i think it's either from decompiled minecraft or c-raft (which ultimately sources it from minecraft) |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
yeah |
| 20:00 |
hmmmm |
i disagree, it's not smart at all |
| 20:00 |
hmmmm |
it sucked |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
i spent like two weeks clearing it out |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
he didn't even do the voxel engine |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
super fast now |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
he didn't? |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
hm |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
hmmmm, I don't think so |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
the thing that tipped me off was easeCurve() |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
i was wondering where on earth he got that polynomial it used from |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
it seemed so random |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
and then i stumbled upon it while i was checking out how minecraft does biomes |
| 20:02 |
MiJyn |
http://www.volumesoffun.com/polyvox-about/? |
| 20:02 |
hmmmm |
another thing that looks like it originated from decompiled java is the cave generation |
| 20:02 |
hmmmm |
because of the java-decompiler-ish undescriptive variable names |
| 20:02 |
bulletrulz |
R.I.P minetest 2010-2012 |
| 20:03 |
hmmmm |
dude bulletrulez, we get it |
| 20:03 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 20:05 |
hmmmm |
wow, I really did think that celeron came up with the voxel engine |
| 20:05 |
hmmmm |
guess not |
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MiJyn |
yeah, and then when c55 hears of us talking about him like this he will ban us lol |
| 20:06 |
hmmmm |
right now i'd have a lot more respect for him if he mentioned where this stuff was sourced |
| 20:06 |
hmmmm |
i don't think he cares tbh or he's not around enough |
| 20:07 |
iqualfragile |
there are automatic logs written |
| 20:07 |
hmmmm |
there are lots of logs though :)... they're never read |
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bulletrulz |
MiJyn, acctully we have free speach |
| 20:10 |
bulletrulz |
lol THIS IS AMERICA DAMMIT |
| 20:10 |
iqualfragile |
and c55 has oz |
| 20:10 |
iqualfragile |
no, it is not |
| 20:10 |
hmmmm |
this is SPARTA! |
| 20:10 |
iqualfragile |
and you dont realy have free speach in america |
| 20:10 |
iqualfragile |
s/oz/op |
| 20:10 |
hmmmm |
actually, he lives in sweden iirc |
| 20:11 |
bulletrulz |
well i live in america |
| 20:11 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 20:11 |
iqualfragile |
why do z and p have to be directly adjacent? |
| 20:11 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 20:13 |
iqualfragile |
that was no joke |
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cosarara97 |
OldCoder: are you here? |
| 20:52 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, yes |
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cosarara97 |
Well, it seems I cannot test blockplanet (minetest++) from windows in this computer, because in windows it runs like at 1 frame every 5 secconds |
| 20:53 |
cosarara97 |
wine, I mean |
| 20:53 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, on the phone but off soon |
| 20:53 |
cosarara97 |
ok |
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NakedFury |
hello |
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cosarara97 |
hello |
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OldCoder |
cosarara97, Yes |
| 21:06 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, I don't do much with Windows. Do other OpenGL programs work for you? |
| 21:06 |
cosarara97 |
I'm using wine, not windows |
| 21:06 |
cosarara97 |
I don't know about other opengl programs, never tried |
| 21:06 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, Ah |
| 21:06 |
cosarara97 |
in wine, I mean |
| 21:06 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, What is your distro again? |
| 21:07 |
cosarara97 |
arch linux |
| 21:07 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, you built blockplanet? Give me the tarball or git clone link |
| 21:08 |
cosarara97 |
I didn't build it (well, I did when it came out), I downloaded it from sfan5's builds: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ |
| 21:08 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, find me the source link and I'll try building it |
| 21:09 |
cosarara97 |
https://github.com/MiJyn/BlockPlanet-old |
| 21:09 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, will attempt to build in a few minutes |
| 21:09 |
OldCoder |
back on phone briefly |
| 21:28 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, that is a MT fork. Please try the MT Windows client I linked earlier. Tell me if you have the FPS problem with that. |
| 21:28 |
OldCoder |
If not the problem with blockplus may be correctable. |
| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
|
| 21:29 |
cosarara97 |
I was trying if the 3d player ran fine on wine, that's why I used that fork |
| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
Quiet here for a Saturday |
| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
cosarara97, it may be the Windows problem I mentioned |
| 21:30 |
OldCoder |
If the issue is the 3D player I don't think I'll spend the time to build it |
| 21:30 |
OldCoder |
Because I've been told about the issue before |
| 21:30 |
OldCoder |
It apparently does not work well and it's been said the character doesn't look that good |
| 21:31 |
OldCoder |
I'd rather work on giving each player their own character |
| 21:31 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, jordan4ibanez is T_A_N_K |
| 21:31 |
Jordach |
thats not me |
| 21:31 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, thank you |
| 21:31 |
OldCoder |
and glad to hear that apples work |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, do you know much about debs? |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
me? nop. |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
nope.* |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
I wish to build debs that will force install of dependencies |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
That will apparently need more research |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
VE might now but she'll be pretty busy for a while |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
*know |
| 21:49 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, why does your conf have the arrow keys as the moving keys? |
| 21:50 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, because most people who play the games I'm accustomed to use arrows. But it is trivial to change. Just press Escape and go to the Settings page. |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
? |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, key bindings |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, hi |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
wasd is the standard |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, New Windows clients with anaglyphic support added |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, for the official version |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
I am all radical! ;p |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
no, like all FPS games |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
| 21:51 |
OldCoder |
Tell me more |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, now we need changable anaglyph colours |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
rly |
| 21:52 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, all right |
| 21:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I believe you |
| 21:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I was not being sarcastic |
| 21:52 |
Jordach |
i have yellow and dark blue 3d glasses |
| 21:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, explain further please |
| 21:52 |
RealBadAngel |
look at it from this point |
| 21:52 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, We can probably adjust colors. Remind me in the future. |
| 21:52 |
RealBadAngel |
wasd is for the left hand |
| 21:52 |
RealBadAngel |
mouse right |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, my wrist hurts just thinking about that |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
But let's talk soon about iti |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
*it |
| 21:53 |
RealBadAngel |
it would be at least not comfortable to use arrows with left and mouse with right |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
Reading that again |
| 21:53 |
RealBadAngel |
hands would be to close to each other |
| 21:53 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, we do not play Doom |
| 21:53 |
RealBadAngel |
both on the right side of the keyboard |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I am not entirely well; seriously. So my problem. But I don't understand the following: |
| 21:53 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, yep, un confortable |
| 21:53 |
RealBadAngel |
jordach, system is the same |
| 21:53 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> it would be at least not comfortable to use arrows with left and mouse with right |
| 21:54 |
RealBadAngel |
next line |
| 21:54 |
OldCoder |
I use right hand for both |
| 21:54 |
RealBadAngel |
at the same time ? :) |
| 21:54 |
OldCoder |
Pretty much |
| 21:55 |
OldCoder |
Let me gather consensus about the issue |
| 21:55 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, But you can change the keys to whatever you wish |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
dunno, maybe im geek, but i do have wasd on the left, mouse on the right |
| 21:55 |
OldCoder |
Just press Escape and use the Settings page |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
and it is comfortable for me |
| 21:55 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 21:55 |
OldCoder |
Press Escape and use the Settings page |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
sure, treat it as offtopic please |
| 21:56 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 21:56 |
OldCoder |
This seems on-topic |
| 21:56 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 21:56 |
OldCoder |
Doom? |
| 21:56 |
OldCoder |
It is part of FPS |
| 21:56 |
OldCoder |
Which is a related universe |
| 21:56 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah, but i wouldnt like to force anythin such trivial as this |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
Folks I have an errand to address. Back later. RealBadAngel tell people of your ice stairs. |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, any concern is worth addressing |
| 21:57 |
RealBadAngel |
if theres way to set it up to every1 likeing |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
I will return a bit later |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
ttyl |
| 21:58 |
RealBadAngel |
on the other hand im kinda suprised to meet some1 never used wasd for movement :) |
| 21:59 |
RealBadAngel |
even mortal kombat has this as player 1 keys ;) |
| 22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
dont recall now keys for player 2 |
| 22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
but that was funny indeed two folks using the same keyboard with such a game |
| 22:01 |
cosarara97 |
doom is played without a mouse, isn't it? |
| 22:02 |
RealBadAngel |
im not sure, not played doom that much |
| 22:02 |
* Jordach |
waits for tekkit |
| 22:02 |
RealBadAngel |
my fps were duke nukem 3d, quake 1 and then Unreal Tournament |
| 22:03 |
cosarara97 |
I like playing games which are not from my age :) |
| 22:03 |
RealBadAngel |
i still do play Heroes of Might and Magic III |
| 22:03 |
RealBadAngel |
Warcraft 2 |
| 22:03 |
Jordach |
anyone up for Age of Empires? |
| 22:04 |
RealBadAngel |
not me ;) |
| 22:04 |
cosarara97 |
I play quake I, which was released before I was born, lol |
| 22:04 |
RealBadAngel |
with HoMM3 i won 3rd place in championships |
| 22:04 |
RealBadAngel |
in Poland |
| 22:05 |
RealBadAngel |
won some stupid game :) |
| 22:05 |
RealBadAngel |
later on i played in online league for years |
| 22:06 |
RealBadAngel |
toheroes.com i believe |
| 22:06 |
RealBadAngel |
that is my nick comes from |
| 22:07 |
cosarara97 |
I'm going to bed, good night all |
| 22:07 |
RealBadAngel |
cya |
| 22:07 |
RealBadAngel |
and im going back to make textures |
| 22:09 |
NakedFury |
nice to see RTS fans here |
| 22:10 |
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| 22:11 |
RealBadAngel |
some old ideas still rocks |
| 22:11 |
RealBadAngel |
and are way better than nowadays games |
| 22:11 |
Muadtralk |
which ideas would those be? |
| 22:12 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU |
| 22:12 |
RealBadAngel |
watch this |
| 22:13 |
Muadtralk |
oh i already saw this |
| 22:13 |
NakedFury |
what is it with the unending logos at the start! |
| 22:15 |
RealBadAngel |
NakedFury, look at new titles |
| 22:15 |
RealBadAngel |
it doesnt remind you something? :) |
| 22:16 |
NakedFury |
yes that video is so true |
| 22:17 |
RealBadAngel |
new games are SUPERB when comes to gfx |
| 22:17 |
NakedFury |
too much hand holding is bad. too many intro logos, games extremely linear and easy, we are also bombarded with DLC crap to milk us |
| 22:17 |
RealBadAngel |
but offers a few hours of gameplay |
| 22:17 |
RealBadAngel |
and sometimes you have the feeling they are made for idiots |
| 22:18 |
RealBadAngel |
more stupid idiot the better |
| 22:18 |
RealBadAngel |
its like shit packed in a nice box |
| 22:20 |
RealBadAngel |
and here comes the secret of minecraft and the genre success |
| 22:21 |
Muadtralk |
I have no mouth and i must scream |
| 22:21 |
Muadtralk |
does anyone know what to do after jamming a fork into a airship engine? |
| 22:21 |
RealBadAngel |
it simply doesnt have all that shit |
| 22:22 |
iqualfragile |
nope |
| 22:22 |
RealBadAngel |
look for parachute |
| 22:22 |
* Jordach |
concluded that my pc is not ssp capable of tekkit |
| 22:22 |
Jordach |
Muadtralk, what have you done this time |
| 22:22 |
iqualfragile |
minecrafts secret recipe to success is that every single feature and item in the game was carefully balanced |
| 22:23 |
Muadtralk |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream |
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| 22:23 |
RealBadAngel |
i know this book. standing here on the shelf |
| 22:24 |
RealBadAngel |
my SF library is over 1,5k books |
| 22:24 |
RealBadAngel |
im a freak when it comes to SF |
| 22:24 |
Muadtralk |
im playing the video game version |
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| 22:25 |
RealBadAngel |
read the book |
| 22:25 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
| 22:25 |
RealBadAngel |
you wont be dissapointed |
| 22:25 |
RealBadAngel |
woof woof |
| 22:25 |
* NekoGloop |
hid |
| 22:26 |
Muadtralk |
im sure i wont |
| 22:26 |
iqualfragile |
per anhalter durch die galaxis ist immernoch die beste trilogie |
| 22:26 |
Muadtralk |
how is it i could read that without issue? |
| 22:26 |
RealBadAngel |
Hitchhikers quide to the galaxy you mean? |
| 22:27 |
iqualfragile |
the hitchhiker guide to the universe |
| 22:27 |
RealBadAngel |
42 rules |
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| 22:28 |
RealBadAngel |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy |
| 22:29 |
Muadtralk |
no his comment |
| 22:29 |
Muadtralk |
i only read english but i immediately knew what that was |
| 22:29 |
RealBadAngel |
from this author i can also recommend you this one: The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul |
| 22:31 |
RealBadAngel |
i believe that one sf hollywood movie lately was made based on this book |
| 22:31 |
RealBadAngel |
something with "Thor" in title |
| 22:32 |
RealBadAngel |
but they screwed it totally as usual |
| 22:33 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, where can i find the new build |
| 22:33 |
RealBadAngel |
from brilliant, even epic sense of humour, excellent dialogues they made tasteless, dark, overloaded with gfx shit |
| 22:35 |
NekoGloop |
Miner beware, he will never die... |
| 22:36 |
RealBadAngel |
cool, constructor works :) |
| 22:36 |
RealBadAngel |
now MK2 and MK3 |
| 22:36 |
Jordach |
well, night you guys |
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| 22:48 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 22:49 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, remind me of the WASD key issue at a later point and let me review consensus |
| 22:49 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 22:49 |
NakedFury |
hi |
| 22:49 |
NakedFury |
I use WASD btw |
| 22:50 |
RealBadAngel |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WASD |
| 22:51 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, is it a strong preference? |
| 22:51 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, BTW Escape Settings will change the keys as you know |
| 22:51 |
RealBadAngel |
its like 20 yrs old tradition |
| 22:52 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, ty |
| 22:52 |
OldCoder |
I am much older than 20 years :-( |
| 22:52 |
RealBadAngel |
since first fps shooters |
| 22:52 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, is it a strong preference? |
| 22:52 |
OldCoder |
Need to determine consensus |
| 22:52 |
NakedFury |
well I would say its the only way I know how to play pc games with |
| 22:52 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, and most people feel this way? |
| 22:52 |
NakedFury |
because games now use the mouse to look having to use the arrows feels weird |
| 22:52 |
RealBadAngel |
WASD keys, the most common configuration of arrow keys on a QWERTY keyboard. |
| 22:53 |
NakedFury |
the wasd setting is standard movement in most if not all games |
| 22:53 |
NakedFury |
shooters use it. adventure games too, even mmorpgs |
| 22:54 |
RealBadAngel |
all of them |
| 22:54 |
NakedFury |
of course those have point and click too |
| 22:54 |
RealBadAngel |
when a game pops up with another system players call it hard to use |
| 22:55 |
NakedFury |
I think RTS and turn base games use the arrows too move around |
| 22:55 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont even have to look on the keyboard, my left hand knows the right keys on itself |
| 22:56 |
RealBadAngel |
its a standard simply |
| 22:57 |
NakedFury |
yeah that too. same with console shooting games if you change how it is controlled the people rage about it] |
| 22:58 |
RealBadAngel |
remember Gothic? |
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| 22:59 |
RealBadAngel |
this game has totally different way of controlling your character |
| 22:59 |
RealBadAngel |
could took weeks to master it |
| 22:59 |
NakedFury |
omg yes |
| 22:59 |
NakedFury |
even attacking was a pain |
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| 23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
but i still liked it |
| 23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
gothic series is great |
| 23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
and this another one, dont remember its name |
| 23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
from the same studios |
| 23:02 |
RealBadAngel |
somethin about the island |
| 23:02 |
NakedFury |
Dead Island? |
| 23:02 |
NakedFury |
tropical island with zombies? |
| 23:02 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 23:03 |
RealBadAngel |
ah |
| 23:03 |
RealBadAngel |
got it :) |
| 23:03 |
RealBadAngel |
Risen |
| 23:03 |
OldCoder |
Ha |
| 23:03 |
RealBadAngel |
you start when ship is sunk, and you land on the shore |
| 23:04 |
RealBadAngel |
the best creation from piranha bytes i believe |
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| 23:05 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMunreeHqhw |
| 23:05 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, wb |
| 23:05 |
RealBadAngel |
Risen gameplay |
| 23:05 |
Taoki |
thanks |
| 23:05 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, indicate if the change works |
| 23:05 |
OldCoder |
You can try it using Wine |
| 23:06 |
NakedFury |
new Risen game btw |
| 23:06 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Ok. If there is a link to download i can try it now |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
It has been up for hours: |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
Get the 30MB Windows 121020 release |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
Oops |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
No, that's right |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
Get the 30MB Windows 121020 release |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, ^ |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, do you have a strong preference for WASD vs. arrow keys? |
| 23:08 |
Taoki |
I only use WASD |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, ty |
| 23:09 |
Taoki |
got the 32mb version, trying now |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, this copy has arrows by default but just press Escape Settings to change them |
| 23:11 |
Taoki |
It started. Really laggy but it works |
| 23:11 |
OldCoder |
Where are you located? |
| 23:11 |
OldCoder |
Others see no lag |
| 23:11 |
Taoki |
Dunno, new world i think |
| 23:11 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 23:11 |
Taoki |
Likely because of WINE |
| 23:11 |
OldCoder |
Your RL country |
| 23:12 |
Taoki |
Ah, Romania |
| 23:12 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 23:12 |
OldCoder |
Single player or network? |
| 23:12 |
Taoki |
Also, a mod I would like to suggest as well (been waiting for this in MineTest for ages): Workbench mod. With 2 x 2 default inventory grid |
| 23:12 |
Taoki |
SP |
| 23:12 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 23:12 |
Taoki |
it's FPS lag sorry |
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| 23:12 |
OldCoder |
Taoki noting that |
| 23:12 |
NekoGloop |
No |
| 23:12 |
NakedFury |
I like your idea taoki |
| 23:12 |
NekoGloop |
Not until you figure out how to make the workbench not be retarded. |
| 23:13 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop: What's retarded about it now? IIRC it worked well |
| 23:13 |
OldCoder |
workbench &= ~RETARDED; |
| 23:13 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Also, anisotropic filtering + mipmaps look even nicer than I thought! Great feature |
| 23:13 |
NekoGloop |
You cant take multiples of the same craft from it. |
| 23:13 |
RealBadAngel |
workbench idea is reasonable |
| 23:13 |
NekoGloop |
Try making two torches without dropping them to the player's inventory. |
| 23:14 |
Taoki |
ah, didn't know that. Yeah it's a nasty bug then |
| 23:14 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Pretty hard to test on WINE, freezing quite a lot. If source is included I might try to compile myself from it |
| 23:15 |
Taoki |
But for that I'd rather wait you make a GIT |
| 23:15 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, all right. I could give you a tarball now if you wished. |
| 23:16 |
OldCoder |
And I will rebuild Linux clients too |
| 23:16 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, sorry; one more time, what was your distro? |
| 23:16 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: If you'll rebuild i can waut until tomorrow |
| 23:16 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISfdCtuHy9g |
| 23:16 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, it may take a week or longer to rebuild as things are complicated for me ATM |
| 23:16 |
OldCoder |
But we will see |
| 23:16 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, sorry; one more time, what was your distro? |
| 23:16 |
Taoki |
aah, ok |
| 23:17 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: openSUSE 12.2 64bit, KDE 4.8.5 |
| 23:18 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: In your world, there's a box with an orange player texture on it o.o If I click it a large menu opens |
| 23:18 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, have fun... |
| 23:18 |
OldCoder |
with Town Test! |
| 23:18 |
Taoki |
Town Test? :) |
| 23:18 |
OldCoder |
He is faithful but you must feed him |
| 23:18 |
Taoki |
Whatisit |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
He will work for you |
| 23:19 |
Taoki |
ahhh |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
He is your Faithful Servant |
| 23:19 |
Taoki |
Sounds like a nice villagers mod |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
"Yes Sir! What shall I build for you??" |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
But you must feed him IIRC |
| 23:19 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Not sure if related to the freezes, but I keep getting these: err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x21e008 "?" wait timed out in thread 002c, blocked by 0031, retrying (60 sec) |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Wine |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
You'll need a native Linux build I think |
| 23:20 |
Taoki |
yeah the wine build is working horribly for me. But, it was interesting to test |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 23:21 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: An observation: mipmaps and / or filtering do not work for hand-held objects it seems. The 1st person item models |
| 23:22 |
OldCoder |
Is that truncated? |
| 23:22 |
OldCoder |
Noting for Vanessa |
| 23:22 |
Taoki |
no, the full message |
| 23:24 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, filters works only on placed nodes |
| 23:24 |
RealBadAngel |
not the inventory items |
| 23:24 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: That yes. But not on hand-held ones |
| 23:24 |
Taoki |
Inventory ones either |
| 23:24 |
OldCoder |
What is the resolution? |
| 23:25 |
Taoki |
But also not on items or blocks held in the hand |
| 23:25 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 23:25 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: 1650 x 1080 IIRC (maximized but windowed) |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Ha |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Sorry |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
I meant |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Is there agreement? |
| 23:25 |
OldCoder |
Is this an issue? |
| 23:26 |
RealBadAngel |
its not the issue, its just the way it works ;) |
| 23:26 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Well I think fildering should work on hand-held items |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
I will mention to author |
| 23:26 |
RealBadAngel |
c55? :) |
| 23:26 |
OldCoder |
Vanessa |
| 23:27 |
OldCoder |
Of this patch anyway |
| 23:27 |
RealBadAngel |
those two things are not related |
| 23:27 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: The config files in the package I'm trying doesn't have the settings for anaglyph stereo. Is the code merged yet? |
| 23:27 |
OldCoder |
Her patch added the filters |
| 23:27 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, should have been |
| 23:27 |
OldCoder |
Checking |
| 23:27 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, for the world |
| 23:27 |
RealBadAngel |
inventory is just another story |
| 23:27 |
Taoki |
ok. Not seeing the settings in minetest.conf so unsure |
| 23:28 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: It's understandable then. |
| 23:28 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, wait |
| 23:28 |
RealBadAngel |
world is rendered |
| 23:28 |
RealBadAngel |
inventory is just drawn |
| 23:28 |
Taoki |
Didn't know that, thought hand-held blocks / items are rendered too |
| 23:28 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I added the settings but must have overwritten the file afterward. Sorry, will be corrected in next version. |
| 23:28 |
Taoki |
Would be nice if that were changed |
| 23:29 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: NP, glad I found it |
| 23:29 |
OldCoder |
Taoki just to be safe indicate the two lines here again though I have them |
| 23:30 |
Taoki |
Also: When I mentioned that c55's delays are likely to be starting a fork in #minetest-delta, I got a rather weird response. Getting the feeling there's actually a team here that's sort of upset on everyone or something. Probably wrong but it slightly feels that way |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki: They are, RealBadAngel is, as always, assuming he's right. |
| 23:31 |
RealBadAngel |
try to prove im wrong |
| 23:31 |
Taoki |
not him |
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| 23:31 |
Octupus |
hello |
| 23:31 |
RealBadAngel |
please go on, i will listen |
| 23:31 |
Octupus |
does any1 know the worldedit command to copy a building? |
| 23:31 |
NekoGloop |
I meant for the rendering of held items. |
| 23:31 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: They are rendered. Inventory thumbnails are not. |
| 23:32 |
Taoki |
All I'm saying is I'm getting the feeling c55 and some people are sort of upset on everyone else. And kinda not liking to hear about community contributions |
| 23:32 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, if they would, they could get filters workin on then |
| 23:32 |
NekoGloop |
They can, they just havent yet. |
| 23:32 |
* Taoki |
thinks they're being rendered differently at least |
| 23:33 |
Taoki |
Since filters like that should be applied to all geometry if it was the case |
| 23:33 |
RealBadAngel |
im not sure of this |
| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki is right. They are rendered seperatly. |
| 23:33 |
RealBadAngel |
so sorry then |
| 23:33 |
Taoki |
Something relevant: If you press the shortcut to "hide HUD", hand-held objects are hidden too |
| 23:33 |
Taoki |
Which I find sort of weird |
| 23:35 |
RealBadAngel |
wow, i just made 4x8 glass/marble doors :) |
| 23:35 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, you set SE and NW corners |
| 23:35 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, with //pos1 and //pos2 |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, then //save baconmart |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
BUT |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
It does not save meta |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, //savemeta saves meta but there is a bug with that |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
We need to speak with Uberi |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, If you do not care about meta the commands should work now |
| 23:36 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, state the two lines again if you can |
| 23:37 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: The settings?> Hold on |
| 23:37 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: |
| 23:37 |
Taoki |
anaglyph = 0 |
| 23:37 |
Taoki |
anaglyph_strength = 0.1 |
| 23:37 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, ty |
| 23:44 |
Octupus |
i dont know what u talking about |
| 23:45 |
Octupus |
i thought i used //p set first |
| 23:45 |
Octupus |
then //save OctuHotel |
| 23:45 |
Octupus |
to get it back //load OctuHotel |
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| 23:49 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, wb |
| 23:49 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, it is fine |
| 23:49 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, For //p set |
| 23:50 |
OldCoder |
How do you specify the corners? |
| 23:51 |
NekoGloop |
Punching |
| 23:52 |
OldCoder |
Not //pos1 and //pos2 for your? |
| 23:52 |
OldCoder |
You? |
| 23:52 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, which objects are affected by meta? |
| 23:52 |
NekoGloop |
Chests, furnaces, signs, and anything in technic. |
| 23:52 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=jsvgufeKPsI&NR=1 |
| 23:53 |
Octupus |
its punching instead od setting |
| 23:53 |
Octupus |
its almost complete actually |
| 23:53 |
OldCoder |
I used //pos1 and pos2 |
| 23:53 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, see above: |
| 23:53 |
OldCoder |
<NekoGloop> Chests, furnaces, signs, and anything in technic. |
| 23:53 |
OldCoder |
Those will not save |
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