Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
Crisco |
I have a BNC that I usually use, but in my mobile devices I have a backup server in case cron fails to update my dyndns |
00:00 |
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00:01 |
dharc |
Minecraft was made in Java, because of it it's so slow. Minetest is very fast, you deserve congratulations |
00:18 |
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00:19 |
OldCoder |
dharc, Yes |
00:19 |
hmmmm |
'minetest is fast' |
00:19 |
hmmmm |
hah |
00:20 |
hmmmm |
now that it's the weekend, i can finally work on the mapgen more |
00:20 |
hmmmm |
i think i might have a potential problem though |
00:21 |
OldCoder |
I thought I /ignored you |
00:21 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
00:21 |
NakedFury |
hmmm do you think it could be possible to make different digging animations or movements depending on if you dig or mine or chop or punch stuff or use a sword? |
00:21 |
hmmmm |
OldCoder, i really don't give a care in the world if you ignore me or not, your attention isn't some amazing thing that people are worthy of |
00:22 |
hmmmm |
aren't worthy of* |
00:23 |
hmmmm |
NakedFury, of course it's possible, but i'm not the person who would add that |
00:24 |
RealBadAngel_ |
hah, by accident i figured out how to create COOL thing |
00:24 |
RealBadAngel_ |
technic will be updated in 15 minutes |
00:24 |
hmmmm |
i think it would be difficult because then there'd need to be a system in place to define custom animations - the swing is hardcoded right now |
00:25 |
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00:25 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, all right |
00:27 |
NakedFury |
what did you find by accident? |
00:32 |
NakedFury |
hmmm how goes your hunt for the perfect algorithm or code for mapgen? |
00:33 |
hmmmm |
it might suck |
00:33 |
hmmmm |
i'm gonna need to take individual samples for nodes that are on the boundary of a biome in order to smooth transitions |
00:34 |
NakedFury |
and that might slow it down? |
00:34 |
hmmmm |
well if you're doing more stuff that you otherwise wouldn't, of course |
00:34 |
hmmmm |
i'm thinking of a more elegant solution |
00:36 |
hmmmm |
maybe not |
00:36 |
harrison |
does anyone here remember SPASIM? |
00:36 |
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00:37 |
NakedFury |
no. is that a user or program? |
00:38 |
hmmmm |
alright, i've got an idea - if the transition from one biome to another doesn't end on an integer boundary, which is really a 1/350 chance, the slope is the same as the difference between the last two nodes |
00:39 |
NakedFury |
how would an integer boundary look like? |
00:39 |
hmmmm |
probably unnoticable |
00:40 |
NakedFury |
well go for it if it is elegant and helps you reach your goal |
00:40 |
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00:41 |
VanessaE_ |
hi all |
00:41 |
NakedFury |
hi |
00:42 |
NekoGloop |
Ello |
00:42 |
VanessaE_ |
hi hi. |
00:44 |
VanessaE |
there. |
00:44 |
* OldCoder |
is resting |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
jeez, irc is falling apart tonight |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
net split |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
not as good as |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
banana split |
00:54 |
VanessaE |
heh |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
U.S. MT worlds going down to test Calinou Git Mods |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
Several of his mods updated |
00:54 |
* VanessaE |
offers up a chocolate fudge poptart with peanut butter spead on it |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
Yum |
00:55 |
* NekoGloop |
has pizza |
00:55 |
* OldCoder |
consumes; at least in the virtual world |
00:55 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: trade? :) |
00:55 |
NekoGloop |
We have a whole extra box that noone ate. So sure! :D |
00:55 |
OldCoder |
Anybody else got mods to update? |
00:55 |
* VanessaE |
trades a box of poptarts and three mese for the extra pizza ;-) |
00:55 |
OldCoder |
Has anybody used bobblocks? |
00:55 |
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00:56 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: I do |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
Mika reports problem with those but they work fine in one world |
00:56 |
VanessaE |
as long as you have mesecons installed it just works |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Ah. Mika reports they do not work in Europe. |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
Good |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
Europe has mesecons |
00:56 |
VanessaE |
but it's one of those mods that is best used from creative mode |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
I will ask him for more info |
00:56 |
OldCoder |
Go on |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds restarted |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
nothing to go on about :-) |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
If no problems then Europe will be updated |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
Then I do not understand; but fine |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
afaik it has sorta weird recipes |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
and uses its own internal dye system |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps he got the recipes wrong |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1274 |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
R |
00:57 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Make it use normal-er dyes. |
00:58 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: rabbibob says he will update it to use Unified Dyes at some point |
00:58 |
NekoGloop |
Riiiiiight |
00:58 |
VanessaE |
and unlike other mods, this is one that would not need to give back the dye bottles, since it requires glass blocks anyway :) |
00:58 |
NekoGloop |
And i'll go invent the time machine. |
01:00 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, How much do your 64px textures improve things over the default? |
01:00 |
RealBadAngel_ |
NekoGloop, hi |
01:00 |
NekoGloop |
Speaking of that, i'm surprised noone has abused teleporters to simulate the TARDIS |
01:00 |
VanessaE |
afaic, they're a major improvement :-) |
01:00 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, the only reason not to use is additional 5MB download? |
01:00 |
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01:00 |
VanessaE |
but some people hate HDX textures because they're either too high-rez (even at 64px) or because they're too real. |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I do not understand |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
Explain |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: better that the player should download and install it themselves. |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
"too high res" |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
Why? |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
Explain |
01:01 |
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01:01 |
* OldCoder |
is interested |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
yeah - people seem to be stuck on 16px because of the perceived theme of the game |
01:01 |
RealBadAngel_ |
because folks have different tastes |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
What if I make 32px versions? |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
or because some peoples' hardware sucks :-) |
01:01 |
OldCoder |
What if I make 32px versions? |
01:01 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Most people just like default textures ;) |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
32px won't be good enough - a few textures will just turn to noise at that size |
01:02 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
01:02 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: well they're wrong. :-) |
01:02 |
OldCoder |
I wish to try the 64px |
01:02 |
NekoGloop |
NOPE |
01:02 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: give it a shot then :-) |
01:02 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, bad idea? |
01:02 |
* NekoGloop |
smacks vanessae |
01:02 |
RealBadAngel_ |
NekoGloop, ive made that "bucket" its called water and lava can |
01:02 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583 |
01:02 |
NekoGloop |
How DARE you say i'm wrong |
01:02 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel_: Call it the large bucket |
01:02 |
* VanessaE |
blocks neko's smack and responds with a good, sharp poke :-) |
01:02 |
RealBadAngel_ |
no way ;) |
01:03 |
RealBadAngel_ |
test it first |
01:03 |
NakedFury |
higher resolution textures need more size. also the art style comes into play. some people dont like realistic textures for this type of game and others do |
01:03 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
01:03 |
NekoGloop |
Owie |
01:03 |
OldCoder |
What is the balance? |
01:03 |
RealBadAngel_ |
anyone knows why and how images displayed in formspec are scaled? |
01:03 |
OldCoder |
How many like one vs. the other? |
01:03 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel_: Randomly and stupidly. |
01:04 |
RealBadAngel_ |
id like to make menu backgrounds and it doesnt look well |
01:04 |
RealBadAngel_ |
doest keep the scale |
01:04 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, You mean 64px HDX? |
01:05 |
NakedFury |
Old Coder in the end its personal tastes. how do I like the game to look for me and how detailed do I like it? that is lets say cartoon style or real style and low detail 16x versus mega details 256 or 512 or beyond. |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, People can configure either way |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, You mean 64px HDX? |
01:05 |
RealBadAngel_ |
whatever the resolution, images are scaled for some stupid reason |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
Where was the menu problem? |
01:05 |
NakedFury |
also im stuck at conneting to server |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, which server? |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
I restarted |
01:05 |
NakedFury |
default 30000 |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
a few minutes ago |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
to update Calinou |
01:05 |
OldCoder |
Exit and reenter please |
01:06 |
NakedFury |
I have been doing that |
01:06 |
OldCoder |
Oh! |
01:06 |
RealBadAngel_ |
oldcoder, when you open furnace menu for example |
01:06 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
01:06 |
OldCoder |
Sorry |
01:06 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i wanted to have there background |
01:06 |
NakedFury |
RealBadAngel by menu you mean the bg.png texture? |
01:06 |
NakedFury |
ohh that |
01:06 |
OldCoder |
Worlds started |
01:06 |
NakedFury |
didnt know you could do backgrounds for those windows |
01:06 |
OldCoder |
My mistake; excuse me |
01:06 |
NakedFury |
I have wanted that for a long time |
01:06 |
RealBadAngel_ |
ive made exact menu sized png and engine scaled that down |
01:07 |
NakedFury |
what do you call it? |
01:07 |
RealBadAngel_ |
ill show you the problem |
01:08 |
NekoGloop |
The problem is likely that you didnt specify the width and height of the image. |
01:08 |
RealBadAngel_ |
http://realbadangel.pl/menu_problem.png |
01:08 |
NekoGloop |
(Or that minetest hates you) |
01:09 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i wanted to make frames around slots |
01:09 |
VanessaE |
oh my |
01:09 |
NekoGloop |
Ew win7 |
01:09 |
NakedFury |
holy shit you have so many programs running |
01:09 |
NekoGloop |
Probably nasa computer |
01:09 |
VanessaE |
haha |
01:09 |
RealBadAngel_ |
slot is 47*47 px, vertical space is 17px, horizontal 7px |
01:09 |
NakedFury |
keep working on that RBA I would love to thave that |
01:09 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel_: incorrect :-/ |
01:09 |
RealBadAngel_ |
oops, vertical space is 11 |
01:10 |
VanessaE |
a slot is scaled up/down depending on your screen rez |
01:10 |
RealBadAngel_ |
shit :) |
01:10 |
VanessaE |
on my screen, they tend to be close to 64px. :-) |
01:10 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i havent thought bout it |
01:10 |
VanessaE |
you suck :) |
01:10 |
RealBadAngel_ |
yeah i do |
01:11 |
VanessaE |
I'm just kidding :-) |
01:11 |
RealBadAngel_ |
so how the image is scaled? |
01:11 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i think its time to dig the code |
01:12 |
NekoGloop |
On my screen, they're closer to 48x |
01:12 |
VanessaE |
no clue |
01:12 |
RealBadAngel_ |
any1 knows which source file holds the formspec code? |
01:12 |
OldCoder |
could grep it |
01:13 |
VanessaE |
nope, sorry |
01:13 |
RealBadAngel_ |
NekoGloop, btw, on that screen you can see cans |
01:13 |
NekoGloop |
Btw, i had an idea while, ironically, playing minecraft. |
01:13 |
VanessaE |
I know exactly squat about the C code :-) |
01:13 |
NekoGloop |
Aether-like freezers. |
01:13 |
NakedFury |
RBA maybe the guiFormSpecMenu.h or .cpp |
01:15 |
NakedFury |
its the cpp one I think |
01:15 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel_: what you could probably do is keep a fake item in each slot, drawn to look like the image you wanted |
01:15 |
VanessaE |
and just have your code delete and replace it, but how to stop the user from taking it, I dunno :-) |
01:15 |
NekoGloop |
Change the inventory image of the hand? |
01:16 |
VanessaE |
that's a thought! |
01:16 |
VanessaE |
is that ...possible? |
01:16 |
NakedFury |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L182 |
01:17 |
NakedFury |
I think it is in that part RealBadAngel_ |
01:17 |
NekoGloop |
Yes vanessae |
01:18 |
RealBadAngel_ |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L267 |
01:18 |
RealBadAngel_ |
yeah |
01:19 |
OldCoder |
I'd really like to try the 64px textures and see how they work |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
give them a shot then |
01:19 |
OldCoder |
working |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
do the same thing you did with the minetoon player image |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
afaik that'll propagate to all clients who aren't using a custom texture pack |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
(so I won't see any change since I use the 512px ones anyway) |
01:20 |
RealBadAngel_ |
hmmm i think i can calculate geometry of base image to fit the slots |
01:21 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, source for the additional inconvenience |
01:21 |
OldCoder |
But worlds are cycling now |
01:21 |
NekoGloop |
hmmm i think i smell potions brewing and hear black magic being uttered. |
01:21 |
VanessaE |
haha |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
Ohmmmm |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
cycled |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
Going to look at magic textures now |
01:22 |
RealBadAngel_ |
padding = v2s32(screensize.Y/40, screensize.Y/40); |
01:22 |
RealBadAngel_ |
spacing = v2s32(screensize.Y/12, screensize.Y/13); |
01:22 |
RealBadAngel_ |
imgsize = v2s32(screensize.Y/15, screensize.Y/15); |
01:22 |
NakedFury |
RBA I thought you were gonna tweak in the source code to add background images for those windows |
01:22 |
RealBadAngel_ |
what the ... is v2s32 |
01:23 |
RealBadAngel_ |
and he called my code lookin stupid? |
01:23 |
VanessaE |
you should talk to jordan4ibanez or sfan5 or mijyn, one of those guys did that for blockplanet |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
I see pitch black |
01:23 |
RealBadAngel_ |
who calls functions v2s32 |
01:23 |
NakedFury |
I dont know why c55 didnt use a better naming system |
01:24 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel_: Celeron does, ofc. |
01:24 |
RealBadAngel_ |
why not bg4232-j32_u1 |
01:24 |
NakedFury |
isnt that lementary coding rules? every tutorial always tells you to use easy names |
01:25 |
RealBadAngel_ |
it is elementary |
01:25 |
NekoGloop |
And we are not amused. |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I seem to be getting pitch black |
01:25 |
VanessaE |
strange |
01:25 |
RealBadAngel_ |
even the author when readin own code after a few yrs woldnt know whats such function |
01:25 |
NakedFury |
by the way Elementary is the name of a New York based female watson based american made new Sherlock Holmes tv series |
01:26 |
NekoGloop |
Yes. |
01:26 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you sure your hardware can handle those textures? Did you disable the texture atlas? |
01:26 |
NekoGloop |
Anyone who watches bbc america would know, it's every other commerial it seems like. |
01:27 |
NekoGloop |
s/bbc america/<insert that goddamn channel noone can remember> |
01:27 |
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01:27 |
VanessaE |
neko: UNC*TV here :-) |
01:27 |
VanessaE |
(they pipe BBC through from time to time) |
01:27 |
NekoGloop |
A&E i wanna say. |
01:28 |
VanessaE |
TLC is a common conduit for PBS and BBC |
01:28 |
NekoGloop |
Wasnt bbc america, though they have their own new thingy. |
01:28 |
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01:28 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Not sure. Is there a GUI option for texture atlas? Or just a config file change? |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, hello |
01:28 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: config file |
01:28 |
VanessaE |
enable_texture_atlas = false |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
World 30001 works for me. Not 30000. What is the config change again? |
01:28 |
VanessaE |
in minetest.conf |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
k |
01:28 |
Octupus |
Hola |
01:28 |
VanessaE |
on the *client* |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
Cleared cache first |
01:28 |
VanessaE |
hi Octupus |
01:28 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, yes |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I'm going to build clients without that feature |
01:29 |
RealBadAngel_ |
well, v2s32 is not the function name ;) its a variable type |
01:29 |
Octupus |
OldCoder: I got a swimming competition tomorrow |
01:29 |
VanessaE |
I should do the same to my builds |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, will you win? |
01:29 |
Octupus |
Yes |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
Good |
01:29 |
Octupus |
:D |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
Knock 'em dead |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
You will be the fastest fish in the sea |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
Nobody will catch you! |
01:30 |
NekoGloop |
Break a leg |
01:30 |
NekoGloop |
All that good stuff. |
01:30 |
Octupus |
:D |
01:30 |
Octupus |
Thanks |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I get pitch black in world 30000 even with texture atlas off and removing cache; if no other tweaks I'd better revert the textures |
01:34 |
VanessaE |
wait. |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
01:34 |
VanessaE |
lemme go to 30000 and see what I get. |
01:34 |
NekoGloop |
Try activating fly mode |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
30001 works though |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, ty |
01:34 |
NekoGloop |
Sounds like your inside a node to me ^^ |
01:34 |
VanessaE |
oh yes, are you sure you're not buried? |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
I hear birds |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
but wait |
01:35 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: My thoughts exactly. |
01:35 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, you do know it takes for-fucking-ever for the textures to render, right? |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
yes |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
30001 works |
01:35 |
VanessaE |
wait a sec here, 30000 didn't send me any textures |
01:35 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: Is your client set to im_blind=true? ;) |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I was buried |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
it is working |
01:36 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
01:36 |
OldCoder |
Looking around |
01:36 |
OldCoder |
ty |
01:36 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: from where I stand, you look like you're buried |
01:36 |
VanessaE |
there you are |
01:36 |
OldCoder |
Not any longer |
01:36 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, VanessaE do these textures look good to you? |
01:36 |
VanessaE |
I don't see them. |
01:36 |
VanessaE |
I only see the default textures. |
01:37 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
01:37 |
OldCoder |
Because you loaded 512px? |
01:37 |
VanessaE |
(I loaded my client config that disables my texture pack so I can see what you send me) |
01:37 |
OldCoder |
So what is happening? |
01:37 |
VanessaE |
you probably installed them client-side instead of server-side. |
01:37 |
VanessaE |
I see the little Minetoon kid |
01:37 |
OldCoder |
Nope |
01:37 |
VanessaE |
but all default textures. |
01:37 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
01:38 |
OldCoder |
Yours are in textures/all on the server side |
01:39 |
VanessaE |
but they didn't send |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
and it works because that is where I put the lava |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing further |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 games users 1626 Oct 1 18:14 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all/cotton_violet.jpg |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 games users 1577 Oct 1 18:14 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all/cotton_violet_s50.jpg |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
Are those yours? |
01:39 |
OldCoder |
1626 and 1577 bytes? |
01:39 |
VanessaE |
lemme look |
01:39 |
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01:40 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, wb |
01:40 |
VanessaE |
that's right, OC. |
01:40 |
JangoFett154 |
oh i, i went hiking with a friend for most of today |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
Good |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, these are in textures/all |
01:40 |
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01:40 |
OldCoder |
In the server tree |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
Interesting |
01:40 |
VanessaE |
isn't textures/all supposed to be client-side? |
01:40 |
NakedFury |
RealBadAngel_: did you find the sizes? |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Apparently not |
01:40 |
OldCoder |
But checking |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, RealBadAngel_ has his lava here |
01:41 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i think same rules apply as for textures |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, go on |
01:41 |
RealBadAngel_ |
checkin the results now |
01:41 |
VanessaE |
where can I see it, OldCoder ? |
01:41 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, see what? the lava? Ask RealBadAngel_ |
01:41 |
VanessaE |
where on this server I mean |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
Explain |
01:42 |
VanessaE |
teleport me to a spot where there is lava on this server so I can see what it looks like |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
Oh! |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
But I don't know where |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, would know |
01:42 |
NakedFury |
give yourself some |
01:42 |
VanessaE |
oh. ok give me fly priv and I'll find it |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
k |
01:42 |
RealBadAngel_ |
give her lava source simply |
01:42 |
OldCoder |
World 30000? |
01:42 |
VanessaE |
aye |
01:42 |
RealBadAngel_ |
and interact |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
She doesn't have that yet? |
01:43 |
RealBadAngel_ |
dunno |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, spell name |
01:43 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i told that just to be sure |
01:43 |
VanessaE |
VanessaEzekowitz |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
and how is lava source spelled |
01:43 |
OldCoder |
? |
01:44 |
VanessaE |
default:lava_source |
01:44 |
OldCoder |
Got lava |
01:44 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: no. this is not RBA's lava. |
01:44 |
VanessaE |
this is the default lava. |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
k |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, did you check when I added your lava? |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
I better check that my end isn't the problem |
01:45 |
RealBadAngel_ |
not sure |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, simple solution is to dump textures into a dummy mod |
01:45 |
OldCoder |
I will make one |
01:46 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, can you confirm how to install textures on server side? |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
ok, nothing in my "lowrez" conf that would stop server textures from being shown |
01:46 |
OldCoder |
See above |
01:46 |
OldCoder |
This should be simple |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
(I use that config when I'm testing stuff) |
01:46 |
OldCoder |
Is there a standard way to install textures on server side? |
01:46 |
RealBadAngel_ |
you already done so, with the texture pack before |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: put them in the same dir as the minetoon guy |
01:46 |
OldCoder |
He is in a mod |
01:47 |
VanessaE |
a mod?? |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
Actually |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
numerous places |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
01:47 |
VanessaE |
strange |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
So that is the case |
01:47 |
RealBadAngel_ |
change the textures in the texture pack |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
No way to install textures? |
01:47 |
VanessaE |
wait |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
Where is the texture pack? |
01:47 |
RealBadAngel_ |
where have u put it before? |
01:47 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, textures/all |
01:48 |
RealBadAngel_ |
wait i will check if theres TP installed |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
|
01:49 |
OldCoder |
So no way to do textures |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
But I can make a mod |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
Does init.lua need anything in it? |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
Can the file be empty? |
01:49 |
VanessaE |
calinou wrote in a forum post that you have to replace the game's textures entirely, that can't be right. |
01:49 |
VanessaE |
texture packs don't need an init.lua. |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, so what is a texture pack? |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
Where does it go? |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
On the server side |
01:50 |
VanessaE |
I don't know |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
All righ |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
All right |
01:50 |
VanessaE |
on the client, it goes anywhere you want and then you just point minetest.conf to it |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
01:50 |
OldCoder |
This is not the client |
01:50 |
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01:52 |
VanessaE |
try a test server with the textures overwriting the files in minetest_game/mods/default/textures |
01:52 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
01:52 |
OldCoder |
That looks right |
01:53 |
VanessaE |
(a test because if it doesn't work you don't want to have to restore the defaults - deleting the tree is easier ;) ) |
01:53 |
OldCoder |
yes |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
shall I try now? |
01:54 |
OldCoder |
Not yet |
01:55 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
01:56 |
* VanessaE |
waits |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
I think they're loading |
01:57 |
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01:57 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
I don't know if *all* of the textures will show - easiest way to tell would be to give yourself a bucket or a door, since those are separate mods from 'default' |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, a fist? |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
Join port 30020 |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
yes - my husband's fist in fact. |
01:57 |
JangoFett154 |
OldCoder why does the server keep shutting down? |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, We are adding a new feature |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
Sorry; this is announced here in IRC |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, join port 30020 |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
trying... |
01:58 |
JangoFett154 |
what feature |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, Several |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
it's a secret :) |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, I have updated several mods. Plus VanessaE is reviewing something new now. |
01:58 |
JangoFett154 |
lol com'on you can tell me |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
64px textures |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: ugh you need a faster pipe, I can't even get 35 kB/sec from you |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
You have probably tried them |
01:58 |
RealBadAngel_ |
and vanilla ice creams |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, it is not the pipe |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I get very fast speeds |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
It is the code in the program |
01:59 |
VanessaE |
I don't think so |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
I get very fast downloads |
01:59 |
VanessaE |
not even the worst ever network code is gonna slow down to just 30 kB/sec. |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
I did 2GB today in minutes |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
There is some type of fragmentation |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, join port 30020 |
01:59 |
OldCoder |
Tell us what you think |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
old: I'm still sitting at 1% |
02:00 |
OldCoder |
Something is wrong then |
02:00 |
OldCoder |
It may be reloading the music |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
oh yes |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
and I cleared my cache too |
02:00 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
The music load |
02:01 |
VanessaE |
this is painfully slow :( |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
is very slow |
02:01 |
VanessaE |
2% |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
We should fix that |
02:01 |
VanessaE |
3% |
02:01 |
JangoFett154 |
im at liek 20% |
02:01 |
VanessaE |
4% |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, he did not clear his cache |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
Wonder why he is reloading |
02:01 |
VanessaE |
maybe it's the connection between there and here - where is this server located? |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
7% |
02:02 |
OldCoder |
U.S. |
02:02 |
OldCoder |
I don't recall where |
02:02 |
OldCoder |
It is the code |
02:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I get very fast speeds from here and Europe |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
22% |
02:03 |
JangoFett154 |
42% |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
still plodding along at less than 20 kB/sec now |
02:03 |
OldCoder |
It is not the pipe AFAIK |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
25% |
02:03 |
OldCoder |
TCP window? |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
it's UDP I think |
02:04 |
OldCoder |
Code needs to be looked at |
02:04 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles - disconnected. |
02:04 |
OldCoder |
Anyway we know how to update textures |
02:04 |
OldCoder |
Are these chests? |
02:05 |
OldCoder |
They do look realistic |
02:05 |
JangoFett154 |
85% |
02:05 |
VanessaE |
dunno, I'm not in yet,. |
02:05 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, Teleport to me once you're in |
02:05 |
JangoFett154 |
aight |
02:05 |
OldCoder |
Oh, you're here already |
02:06 |
JangoFett154 |
i am? its lag |
02:06 |
OldCoder |
I mean |
02:06 |
OldCoder |
You are standing on the chests |
02:06 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: it's your pipe. I just sucked down 70 kB/sec from redcrab's server. |
02:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I am open to suggestions |
02:06 |
VanessaE |
I don't know what to suggest |
02:07 |
OldCoder |
I will look at settings but speed is supposed to be good |
02:07 |
OldCoder |
I can switch VPS |
02:07 |
OldCoder |
Right now just get in and judge the textures |
02:08 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, what do you think? |
02:08 |
OldCoder |
I see you're active |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
22% (after disconnect/reconnect) |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
26% |
02:08 |
OldCoder |
I'll look at other VPS |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
they may be limiting your outgoing bandwidth |
02:08 |
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02:08 |
OldCoder |
No |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I downloaded 2GB today in minutes |
02:09 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
02:09 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I think your textures are good |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
45%.. |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
I am googling about the speed |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154 says the textures seem odd |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
He is so used to the others |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
heh |
02:12 |
NakedFury |
OldCoder something weird is going on |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, go on |
02:12 |
VanessaE |
65% |
02:12 |
NakedFury |
the world is re generating new ores and blocks for me |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I updated Calinou's mods |
02:12 |
NakedFury |
places that didnt have ore now have them |
02:12 |
NakedFury |
ohh |
02:13 |
OldCoder |
Is this related to moreblocks and moreores? |
02:13 |
VanessaE |
80% |
02:13 |
NakedFury |
only ores and in some cases world blocks like huge chunks of desert and sand |
02:14 |
OldCoder |
So this is a new feature of his NakedFury ? |
02:14 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe someone is trolling with worldedit? |
02:14 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
02:14 |
OldCoder |
Seems odd |
02:14 |
OldCoder |
If this just started |
02:14 |
OldCoder |
Probably due to the update to his git versions |
02:14 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: wtf? |
02:14 |
OldCoder |
? |
02:14 |
VanessaE |
some of these are mine, some are not |
02:14 |
VanessaE |
and I can't move |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:15 |
VanessaE |
looks like the server just went down |
02:15 |
NakedFury |
my areas got a fresh and new coating of sand |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
No |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, spell name again |
02:15 |
VanessaE |
VanessaEzekowitz |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
It did go down |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
hold on |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
Segmentation fault |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:16 |
OldCoder |
One more try |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
I made your textures the default |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
But overwrote them |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
with those from the other mods |
02:17 |
VanessaE |
nope, now I see the default textures again. |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
?? |
02:17 |
OldCoder |
That is probably because |
02:18 |
* OldCoder |
sighs |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Only one way to do this |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
it's because celeron55 is an idiot sometimes |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Final experiment coming |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
I can't do this manually |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Need to use my scripts |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
he makes bad decisions from time to time like we all do, but then digs in his heels when someone calls him out on it |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
One more try |
02:18 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, we will stop messing with the servers soon |
02:19 |
JangoFett154 |
ok |
02:21 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: say when. |
02:21 |
OldCoder |
Soon |
02:21 |
OldCoder |
Final test |
02:21 |
OldCoder |
For now coming |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
Servers going down; sorry |
02:23 |
JangoFett154 |
hey OldCoder since you know how to make servers, do you think you could maybe make a server and give it to me and install what mods i want? just a question, i dont want one right now |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, all the worlds are changed temporarily |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, Yes |
02:23 |
JangoFett154 |
cool ill keep that in mind if i ever want one |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, If you mean host one we'll talk about it. Do you have a VPS? |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, JangoFett154 join any world |
02:24 |
OldCoder |
This is the final test for now |
02:25 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: 30006 shows a mixture of my textures and others I don't recognize |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
There is no clean way |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
To do this on the server side |
02:25 |
JangoFett154 |
srry my computer is kinda slow |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, you just joined me |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
Do you see any difference? |
02:25 |
VanessaE |
looks like my leaves, torches, dirt with grass side texture, not sure whose grass texture it is |
02:26 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, here's the thing |
02:26 |
OldCoder |
I need a server side way to update mods |
02:26 |
VanessaE |
RBA's lava is here |
02:26 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
02:26 |
JangoFett154 |
OldCoder im not on yet there is laaaaag |
02:26 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, k |
02:26 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, is it an improvement? |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
I don't see a change in 30001 |
02:27 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: not really, no.. |
02:27 |
VanessaE |
to be honest I don't really like the mixture |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
Sorry for the time used folks |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
O.K. I am putting the worlds back |
02:27 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
And will not mess with them again tonight |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
Except to back up before bed |
02:27 |
OldCoder |
It was worth a try |
02:27 |
VanessaE |
leave it to the player to download and install a texture pack if they want to :-) |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
I want good textures! |
02:28 |
JangoFett154 |
i think regular textures look good |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
All right |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:28 |
RealBadAngel_ |
as good as shit ;) |
02:28 |
JangoFett154 |
but its your opinion |
02:28 |
VanessaE |
brb |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
We will figure it out |
02:28 |
OldCoder |
But for now |
02:29 |
OldCoder |
People can play |
02:29 |
OldCoder |
One moment |
02:29 |
RealBadAngel_ |
i simply see no point in c-64 like textures nowadays |
02:29 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, I think I agree |
02:29 |
JangoFett154 |
c-64? |
02:29 |
RealBadAngel_ |
if i wanna see pixels i have c-64 in my closet |
02:30 |
RealBadAngel_ |
Commodore c-64 |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, old microcompuer |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
*uter |
02:30 |
JangoFett154 |
oh |
02:30 |
RealBadAngel_ |
20 yrs old 8-bit computer |
02:30 |
JangoFett154 |
haha |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, worlds back |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
Several mods were updated |
02:30 |
OldCoder |
But textures are back to normal |
02:30 |
RealBadAngel_ |
image scaling in engine is fucked up |
02:31 |
JangoFett154 |
have ya figured out throwing yet OldCoder? |
02:31 |
RealBadAngel_ |
it scales them by factor of only slot size |
02:31 |
RealBadAngel_ |
some1 forgotten to include spacings |
02:31 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, I can't spend time on mod coding ATM; have probably spent too much time on servers per se. Sorry. But I am interested and will get in deeper in the future. |
02:31 |
RealBadAngel_ |
so no matter what you do result is fucked up |
02:31 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, well; one step at a time |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
Key is to make sure things work at each step |
02:32 |
JangoFett154 |
ok OldCoder its just a mod, doesnt have to be in |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, servers won't be interrupted again unless problems occur; for four hours |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
Then backups |
02:32 |
RealBadAngel_ |
to have proprely displayed menu backgrounds patch to the engine is needed |
02:32 |
VanessaE |
someone mentioned a C64? :-) |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, We can modify the servers |
02:32 |
VanessaE |
btw it's over 30 years old now :-) |
02:32 |
RealBadAngel_ |
hehe |
02:33 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, so here's the thing |
02:33 |
OldCoder |
There is a default textures folder |
02:33 |
RealBadAngel_ |
but looks like its graphics style is still popular ;) |
02:33 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel_: btw you do know I made a C64 texture pack for MT right? :-) |
02:33 |
OldCoder |
We can unpack your textures over that |
02:33 |
RealBadAngel_ |
yeah i do |
02:33 |
OldCoder |
But then we need to allow mods to overwrite those |
02:33 |
OldCoder |
Do you follow? |
02:34 |
RealBadAngel_ |
im playin with my 128x pack |
02:34 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, what I may do is replace some textures one at a time with yours to obtain a working mix |
02:34 |
VanessaE |
ok |
02:34 |
OldCoder |
For now... |
02:34 |
OldCoder |
have fun |
02:34 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, let me know about the next Technic |
02:34 |
VanessaE |
but personally, I think it's best to stick to the default textures and let the user download a texture pack instead. |
02:34 |
RealBadAngel_ |
for the servers i think doku pack is good option |
02:34 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, But that misses a point |
02:34 |
RealBadAngel_ |
looks ok, and not too big |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, do they conflict? If not then I will include them again on next restart |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, People can *still* do what you say |
02:35 |
JangoFett154 |
omg why does server keep shutting down |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
even if I change the default textures |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, It does not |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
We should be done |
02:35 |
RealBadAngel_ |
on europe there was doku TP installed before |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:35 |
JangoFett154 |
it just did |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
Checking log |
02:35 |
RealBadAngel_ |
you have removed it, why? |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, In theory it was not installed |
02:35 |
OldCoder |
textures/all folder supposedly does not work |
02:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
in practuce, yes |
02:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
it was installed |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, wait |
02:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
ive played with it |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, I am confused, then |
02:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
but one day it was gone |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, the server crashed because you dug a cobble |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
02:35:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 digs default:cobble at |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
(-61,173,-9) |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
02:35:07: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
ServerError: LuaError: Expecting itemstack, itemstring, table or nil |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
02:35:07: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
02:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
lol |
02:36 |
OldCoder |
|
02:37 |
OldCoder |
Something odd about that node |
02:37 |
RealBadAngel_ |
what he used to dig it? |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, I will put doku in but right now |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
is that the weird node that the server barfed on the other day? |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
want to avoid problems |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
02:30:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 joins game. List of players: Jango |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
02:35:04: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 uses dicormod:d_bucket, |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
pointing at [node under=-59,172,-11 above=-59,173,-11] |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
dicormod:d_bucket |
02:37 |
OldCoder |
Thoughts? |
02:38 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
02:38 |
JangoFett154 |
i thought it was just a cheap bucket |
02:38 |
RealBadAngel_ |
dug cobble with a bucker?? |
02:38 |
RealBadAngel_ |
*t |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
Apparently |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
Try it again |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
If it crashes |
02:38 |
RealBadAngel_ |
so dicormod is fucked up |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
He found a bug in the code |
02:38 |
JangoFett154 |
no i dug lava with bucket and dug cobble with admin pick |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
See the above |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
Then a random crash? |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
|
02:38 |
OldCoder |
02:35:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 digs default:cobble at |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
(-61,173,-9) |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
02:35:07: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
ServerError: LuaError: Expecting itemstack, itemstring, table or nil |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
02:35:07: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
02:38 |
OldCoder |
|
02:39 |
JangoFett154 |
hold on, it take 2-4 minutes to get on each time it disconnects me |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
Not much to say |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
Sorry to hear it |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
But we won't screw with servers again for now |
02:39 |
NakedFury |
I dont know what calinou changed but every ore in the game regenerated. I am going crazy with ores from RBAs cave mining area |
02:39 |
JangoFett154 |
its somthing with the 4.3 version |
02:39 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: maybe the map re-generated? |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
|
02:39 |
OldCoder |
DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD 7fd8b0b51740: |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
#0 int main(int, char**) |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
(Leftover data: #1 Dedicated server branch) |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
(Leftover data: #2 virtual void ServerMap::save(ModifiedState)) |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
(Leftover data: #3 virtual void ServerMap::saveBlock(MapBlock*)) |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
02:35:10: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Using commanded gameid [tuxworld_game] |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
|
02:39 |
VanessaE |
ores are supposed to be generated only on map generation |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
Check out that stack |
02:39 |
OldCoder |
Should I revert Calinou mods? |
02:40 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: disk space problem? |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
No |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
Gigabytes left |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
The regenerating ores issue |
02:40 |
VanessaE |
quota? |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
No |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
This is *my* VPS |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
No quota |
02:40 |
NakedFury |
its insane I have now 48 copper lumps, 9 diamonds, 19 iron, 31 gold lumps, 12 mithrils, 15 silver lumps, 2 chromium 2 zinc, 9 tin, 2 arol, 5 talinite, 1 kalite. and there are much more |
02:40 |
OldCoder |
He crashed again |
02:41 |
JangoFett154 |
omg stupid dicormod bucket! |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
I'm reverting Calinou mods |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, or was it the bucket? |
02:41 |
VanessaE |
I wonder what calinou did to make that happen??? |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
|
02:41 |
RealBadAngel_ |
hold on |
02:41 |
NekoGloop |
Nothin |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, what just happened? |
02:41 |
NekoGloop |
Your mapgen screwed up |
02:41 |
RealBadAngel_ |
calinou has nothin to do with it |
02:41 |
* OldCoder |
will wait for consensus |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
Consensus? |
02:41 |
NekoGloop |
Remember redcrab? |
02:41 |
VanessaE |
so like I said before - the map re-generated. |
02:41 |
RealBadAngel_ |
im usin my own copy of ore generation |
02:41 |
OldCoder |
Is dicormod death? |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: redcrab's problem was out of disk space. |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
the map generator went insane when it couldn't write |
02:42 |
RealBadAngel_ |
so does NekoGloop |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
Keep in mind how many servers he runs. |
02:42 |
JangoFett154 |
dicor mod bucket must have cheap coding (no offence) but it crashes everytime i try to use it |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: world files not owned by the user running the server? |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
They are owned |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
He's easily out of disk space by now. |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
I made sure of that |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, shall I remove dicormod bucket but keep dicormod? |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
Or shall I remove dicormod? |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: neither - this smacks of a problem deeper than some random mod |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
I don't want crashes |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
I am inclined to revert Calinou and remove dicormod |
02:43 |
JangoFett154 |
i really dont want to have to go through another set of disconnects, ill just use a regular bucke |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
Later, then |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
a mod ain't gonna cause that kind of crash :-) |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
02:44 |
OldCoder |
Don't be sure |
02:44 |
OldCoder |
Nobody depends on dicormod |
02:44 |
OldCoder |
Later tonight shall I remove it? |
02:44 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, he has crashed twice after using it |
02:44 |
JangoFett154 |
ya |
02:45 |
VanessaE |
he said he dug cobble with an admin pick though |
02:45 |
RealBadAngel_ |
JangoFett154, use cans from technic |
02:45 |
JangoFett154 |
cans? |
02:45 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Yes. But both times he was handling the dicormod bucket |
02:45 |
OldCoder |
What about NakedFury report? |
02:45 |
JangoFett154 |
they arent on the technic page |
02:45 |
OldCoder |
Is the ores issue important? |
02:45 |
VanessaE |
very |
02:45 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, comment then |
02:45 |
VanessaE |
the ores issue means your map generator is breaking |
02:45 |
OldCoder |
I had best revert Calinou |
02:45 |
VanessaE |
no |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
Explain |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
This did not happen until now |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
ores are only generated when the map generator runs |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
Fine |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
And? |
02:46 |
RealBadAngel_ |
JangoFett154, here you have recipes, in mods code https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/cans.lua |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
and...didn't you notice gloopores did the same thing? |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
and diamonds? |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
What is cause? |
02:46 |
NakedFury |
it just restarted the process as if the map was new |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
A flag of some sort was reset |
02:46 |
NekoGloop |
Couldnt have been calinou if my thing did it too |
02:46 |
OldCoder |
But... |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
It did not happen until now |
02:47 |
NekoGloop |
Because my mod hasnt been updated in forever. ^^ |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Only change to that server today |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Was Calinou update |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Texture changes were not made |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Until afterward |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Other explanations? |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
corrupted map files maybe? |
02:47 |
RealBadAngel_ |
that happened to sdzen's server too |
02:47 |
NakedFury |
maybe calinou did something in his mod that did that. perhaps dont touch the mod until calinou can look at it |
02:47 |
RealBadAngel_ |
regeneration of blocks |
02:48 |
NekoGloop |
People. |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I am not going to "touch" the mod but remove it tonight instead |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel_: and on gameboom too |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
Will just go back to previous |
02:48 |
RealBadAngel_ |
so the buildings were corrupted even |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, they know what happened |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, they hit 4GB limit |
02:48 |
NekoGloop |
This is caused by the server going down in the process of mapgen |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
ah |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
But... |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
Servers are signalled |
02:48 |
OldCoder |
Don't they shut down cleanly? |
02:49 |
NekoGloop |
Minetest, do something cleanly? |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
If not; that is a problem! |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
02:49 |
NekoGloop |
Are you insane? |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, apparently yes |
02:49 |
NekoGloop |
XD |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
I believe you may have hit the nail on the head |
02:49 |
NekoGloop |
You arent the only one ;) |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
Is there a patch I should try to make |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
To cause server to wait |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
Until after mapgen |
02:49 |
OldCoder |
before shutting down? |
02:50 |
OldCoder |
That would do it |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
just send SIGQUIT to the process |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
the equivalent of ctrl-C |
02:50 |
OldCoder |
I send SIGTErM |
02:50 |
OldCoder |
which should do the same thing |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
that's the cleanest shutdown the server can do afaik |
02:50 |
OldCoder |
It is already done |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
no, SIGTERM != SIGQUIT |
02:50 |
OldCoder |
It handles one worse than the other? |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
one is like ctrl-backslash, the other is like ctrl-C |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
TERM is normal |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
But if it is not done usually |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
All right |
02:51 |
VanessaE |
lemme double-check that |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
Go ahead |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
You can choose either |
02:51 |
VanessaE |
Ctrl-C (in older Unixes, DEL) sends an INT signal (SIGINT); by default, this causes the process to terminate. |
02:51 |
VanessaE |
there you go |
02:51 |
VanessaE |
SIGINT is what you need. |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
(ctrl-backslash is -QUIT) |
02:52 |
OldCoder |
Alright |
02:53 |
VanessaE |
send a SIGINT to the process, wait 10 seconds, then try a SIGTERM. Wait another 10 seconds, then SIGKILL the fucker. |
02:53 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:53 |
VanessaE |
:) |
02:53 |
OldCoder |
That is all sensible |
02:53 |
OldCoder |
Editing |
02:54 |
OldCoder |
What about JangoFett154 problem? Think this or dicormod bug? |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure about that |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
maybe get rid of dicormod then |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
I noticed btw, |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
on that 30020 test, lots of unknown blocks in the shape of trees - missing farming mod maybe? |
02:55 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:55 |
OldCoder |
No |
02:55 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:55 |
OldCoder |
It was a quick world |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
make up my mind :) |
02:55 |
OldCoder |
No big deal |
02:55 |
OldCoder |
Yes and Yes |
02:57 |
NekoGloop |
I find it interesting how conversations here just randomly die. |
02:57 |
VanessaE |
yup |
02:57 |
NakedFury |
they die like the wind. spontaneously |
02:57 |
OldCoder |
Tides of chat |
02:58 |
OldCoder |
It is normal |
03:00 |
NekoGloop |
Like just now |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
I have been summoned elsewhere |
03:01 |
NakedFury |
well im coding ideas |
03:01 |
OldCoder |
Good |
03:04 |
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03:06 |
NekoGloop |
I had some ideas for gloopblocks. |
03:06 |
NekoGloop |
Unfortunatly i'm on my ipad and will actually be going to bed soon. |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
That is find |
03:06 |
OldCoder |
Can proceed later |
03:10 |
NakedFury |
well I got my brick oven, called it Brick Kiln. added a not working bucket code for wood and bronze buckets(only bronze can take lava). now I want to work on an Engraving station where you can place Stone or any other block and get an engraved version. I got some stone and desert stone versiions for now |
03:10 |
OldCoder |
k |
03:18 |
cornernote |
hi |
03:18 |
VanessaE |
hey |
03:18 |
OldCoder |
cornernote, hello |
03:18 |
cornernote |
OC, RBA said digging townchest kills the server |
03:19 |
cornernote |
if it happens again, please try to get the debug.txt so i can repair it |
03:20 |
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03:20 |
OldCoder |
cornernote, All right |
03:20 |
OldCoder |
Can do that whenever you like |
03:20 |
OldCoder |
Is it reproducible? |
03:20 |
OldCoder |
We can do it now if you like |
03:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
shall i crash the server now? |
03:36 |
RealBadAngel_ |
OldCoder, ? |
03:37 |
VanessaE |
lol |
03:40 |
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03:40 |
Kacey |
hello |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
hi |
03:41 |
Kacey |
well since server connection is impossible for me i decided to try my luck at making a mod |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
modding's pretty easy |
03:42 |
Kacey |
i was readingthe api page |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
enough so anyway that I find myself wanting to use Lua syntax when writing BASH scripts :D |
03:43 |
Kacey |
but what kills me is textures and sounds if needd |
03:43 |
Kacey |
lol |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
sounds can be difficult (I don't mess with them myself) but textures are easy once you've done them a few times |
03:43 |
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03:43 |
Kacey |
lets see... |
03:43 |
Kacey |
im not on my computer with gimp |
03:44 |
Kacey |
might download that lateer |
03:44 |
VanessaE |
definitely |
03:44 |
Kacey |
still havent figured out gimp |
03:44 |
NakedFury |
use gimp or paint.net or photoshop |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
heh. it does take some time to learn - MSPaint it is not :) |
03:45 |
NakedFury |
which ever is easier for you |
03:45 |
Kacey |
ok do u have the site for ms paint |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
that was a joke |
03:45 |
Kacey |
ooh |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
MSpaint is evil. :-) |
03:45 |
VanessaE |
(as is any product by Microshaft ;) ) |
03:45 |
Kacey |
lol so am i at points |
03:46 |
Kacey |
microsoft? |
03:46 |
NakedFury |
http://www.getpaint.net/ |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
yeah, though I don't know who actually wrote that program :-) |
03:46 |
* VanessaE |
<-- linux zealot |
03:47 |
Kacey |
lol microsoft is my exxpertise |
03:47 |
NakedFury |
It started development as an undergraduate college senior design project mentored by Microsoft, and is currently being maintained by some of the alumni that originally worked on it. Originally intended as a free replacement for the Microsoft Paint software that comes with Windows, it has grown into a powerful yet simple image and photo editor tool. It has been compared to other digital photo editing software packages such as Adobe® Photoshop®, Cor |
03:47 |
NakedFury |
el® Paint Shop Pro®, Microsoft Photo Editor, and The GIMP. |
03:47 |
OldCoder |
hi |
03:47 |
Kacey |
hello |
03:47 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, I am here |
03:48 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, yes |
03:48 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, what is new? |
03:48 |
RealBadAngel_ |
ok |
03:48 |
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03:48 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, wb |
03:48 |
bulletrulz |
hello PEOPLE |
03:48 |
bulletrulz |
hi OldCoder |
03:48 |
Kacey |
going to try my luck at modding |
03:48 |
OldCoder |
Have fun |
03:48 |
bulletrulz |
i wish i could play minetest online but my damn tethring app wont let me |
03:49 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, wait |
03:49 |
Kacey |
codingi have down |
03:49 |
RealBadAngel_ |
server is goin down |
03:49 |
Kacey |
but i cant do textures |
03:49 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, I have a debug.txt file |
03:49 |
RealBadAngel_ |
make mod, ask for textures in forums |
03:50 |
Kacey |
might work |
03:50 |
Kacey |
but i llike beingpretty idependant |
03:51 |
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03:51 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, care to comment on what to grep for? |
03:52 |
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03:52 |
Kacey_ |
hello |
03:52 |
RealBadAngel_ |
just the lines before server went down |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
There are 1000s of lines |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
It continues |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
Is there something to grep for? |
03:52 |
RealBadAngel_ |
dunno |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
k |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
thx |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
will review |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
and pass to cornernote |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
cornernote, here? |
03:52 |
RealBadAngel_ |
look wehere it restarted |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
I can't find that |
03:52 |
RealBadAngel_ |
and go back |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
I can't find that |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
This is a debug file |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
It restarted |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
1000s of lines |
03:53 |
Kacey_ |
i will be here tomorrow possibly |
03:53 |
RealBadAngel_ |
look for me digging the chest |
03:54 |
RealBadAngel_ |
towntest_chest:chest |
03:54 |
RealBadAngel_ |
and what happened next |
03:54 |
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03:56 |
tobuscus |
any one up to play some multiplayer |
03:57 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/test/121013.zip |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, pass that on to cornernote ^ |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
cornernote, see link |
04:01 |
RealBadAngel_ |
Oldcoder, its just log from starting the server |
04:01 |
RealBadAngel_ |
we need logs *before* restart |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
No |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
Grep it |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
You dig the chest in it |
04:02 |
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04:02 |
RealBadAngel_ |
will look once again |
04:02 |
tobuscus_ |
want to play multiplayer |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, I don't see it |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Please repeat |
04:03 |
RealBadAngel_ |
Oldcoder, the log is only 50seconds or so |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Please repeat |
04:03 |
RealBadAngel_ |
just the start of the server |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Please repeat |
04:03 |
RealBadAngel_ |
repeat what? |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Please repeat the procedure I mean |
04:04 |
RealBadAngel_ |
ah |
04:04 |
RealBadAngel_ |
ok |
04:04 |
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04:04 |
bulletrulz |
should i try puppy linux |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
yes |
04:05 |
bulletrulz |
how fast is it? |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Pretty fast |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
but |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
It is a toy Linux |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Try Absolute |
04:06 |
bulletrulz |
ill see |
04:06 |
tobuscus_ |
can i join |
04:06 |
RealBadAngel_ |
OldCoder, server went down |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
k |
04:07 |
tobuscus_ |
ohh |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, wait |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
ok ill try to dl tommorow |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
brb |
04:07 |
RealBadAngel_ |
tobuscus, one server, for testin |
04:07 |
RealBadAngel_ |
there are others you can join |
04:08 |
tobuscus_ |
i cant figure out this game |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/test/121013b.zip |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, ^ |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Try that one |
04:10 |
tobuscus |
oldcoder; how do i join |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
tobuscus, Hi |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
tobuscus, what is your OS? |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Windows? |
04:11 |
tobuscus |
mac |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
04:11 |
tobuscus |
ya |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
I am afraid that I don't know about the Mac clients. Do you have a virtual machine? |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Can you run Windows or Ubuntu in a VM? |
04:11 |
tobuscus |
idk |
04:12 |
RealBadAngel_ |
OldCoder, ok got it |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
tobuscus, Try this weekend earlier in the day |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
tobuscus, I can answer some questions |
04:12 |
tobuscus |
ok |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
But not about Mac. Good luck. |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel_, do you know if there is a Mac client? |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
I was told there was |
04:12 |
tobuscus |
i will figure out some way |
04:12 |
RealBadAngel_ |
idk |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
k |
04:13 |
VanessaE |
there IS a mac client but it's outdated |
04:13 |
VanessaE |
there was, a while ago, someone working on a current mac port, but I don't think he got too far with it. |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
Sorry to hear it |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
VM is best choice I think |
04:14 |
tobuscus |
dat sucks |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
tobuscus: your best bet would be to install a virtual machine program e.g. Virtualbox, Bochs, VMWare, or whatever is common on mad |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
Sorry |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
mac. |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
tobuscus, I will try to make a Mac client |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
then install a linux or windows system inside the virtual machine and run minetest there |
04:14 |
tobuscus |
ok |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
But I will need somebody to make a Mac available |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
tobuscus, that should work; the VM |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
I can run the Windows client myself that way |
04:15 |
tobuscus |
ok |
04:15 |
NakedFury |
can it be possible to compile a mac version from windows or linux? |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
But not easily |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
They have discontinued |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
the cross-development kits |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
Really, a Mac is needed |
04:16 |
NakedFury |
more player reach |
04:16 |
OldCoder |
yes |
04:18 |
* OldCoder |
is resting again for a little while |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
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DeusFigendi |
hey, how do I set values of a node in an ABM? I don't get it. I tried... minetest.env:get_node(pos).tiles = { "new_texture" } but that doesn't work :/ |
04:25 |
DeusFigendi |
maybe there's a set_value()-method or something, but I cannot find such |
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04:27 |
anunakki |
hello |
04:27 |
VanessaE |
no clue |
04:27 |
VanessaE |
hi |
04:30 |
bulletrulz |
ill think ill try preicise puppy cause i need something based on ubuntu but light |
04:33 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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04:35 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, there are several like that |
04:35 |
OldCoder |
Back BTW |
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05:05 |
hmmmm |
hmm, in pure C++, i can calculate 500,000 points of noise in 21012 microseconds with -O2 |
05:05 |
hmmmm |
so it shouldn't be too shabby if it needs to fall back |
05:06 |
hmmmm |
celeron was just being dopey. fallback != slow |
05:09 |
hmmmm |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsV_MO0SET4 |
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05:50 |
* Calinou |
upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 exactly one year ago |
05:52 |
M13 |
Ubuntu 11.10 sucks |
05:52 |
Calinou |
+1 |
05:52 |
Calinou |
lubuntu 12.04 is da win |
05:53 |
Calinou |
I have it on my desktop and old laptop :p |
05:53 |
M13 |
:P |
05:53 |
M13 |
Ubuntu 10.04 :P |
05:53 |
M13 |
i stiill use it :P |
05:54 |
Calinou |
terribly outdated, you should not |
05:54 |
M13 |
can you help me with my network problems OldCoder is tired |
05:54 |
OldCoder |
M13 |
05:54 |
Calinou |
wifi issues? install drivers, if not available, upgrade |
05:54 |
M13 |
ok Im using Ubuntu 12.04 |
05:54 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, your mods are all updated to git |
05:55 |
Calinou |
ok :) |
05:55 |
OldCoder |
He states that connection is slow now |
05:55 |
M13 |
its not wifif :P |
05:55 |
OldCoder |
Evidence suggests it is either modem or network interface |
05:55 |
OldCoder |
M13, how old is the modem? |
05:55 |
OldCoder |
And is this a cable modem? |
05:55 |
M13 |
its 2 years old |
05:55 |
OldCoder |
That is pretty new |
05:55 |
M13 |
yes |
05:55 |
M13 |
its wifi |
05:55 |
M13 |
um |
05:55 |
M13 |
|
05:56 |
M13 |
Its phone internet |
05:56 |
M13 |
Quest |
05:56 |
OldCoder |
Tethered? |
05:56 |
M13 |
Century Link |
05:56 |
M13 |
It is with are phone company |
05:56 |
OldCoder |
and the PC is fast when it communicates with TV in loop? |
05:57 |
M13 |
yes |
05:57 |
M13 |
and with my servers |
05:57 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
05:57 |
OldCoder |
Then ISP is possible issue |
05:57 |
OldCoder |
No? |
05:57 |
M13 |
ISP? |
05:57 |
Basstard` |
That's not a star, that's a satellite. |
05:57 |
M13 |
what is that |
05:57 |
OldCoder |
The company |
05:57 |
OldCoder |
The Internet company |
05:57 |
M13 |
o |
05:58 |
M13 |
but it works fine for the other computers |
05:58 |
Calinou |
internet service provider |
05:58 |
OldCoder |
Same ISP? |
05:58 |
Calinou |
M13: make sure networking is enabled in network menu |
05:58 |
Calinou |
right click network icon |
05:58 |
M13 |
My dowloading speed it the same |
05:58 |
OldCoder |
He implies it works |
05:58 |
OldCoder |
But is slow |
05:58 |
M13 |
but it dont load surtant web pages |
05:59 |
OldCoder |
Problem is slow; or won't load? |
05:59 |
M13 |
my cache is cleared |
05:59 |
M13 |
like google works fine but askubuntu dont |
05:59 |
OldCoder |
?? |
05:59 |
OldCoder |
Try a different browser |
05:59 |
OldCoder |
What happens? |
05:59 |
M13 |
did |
05:59 |
M13 |
I intstalled chrome and it does the same |
06:00 |
OldCoder |
Let's see if I've got this right |
06:00 |
M13 |
ok |
06:00 |
OldCoder |
The problem is not speed; it is that some pages don't load? |
06:00 |
M13 |
yes |
06:00 |
M13 |
most dont |
06:00 |
OldCoder |
That is not likely to be modem |
06:00 |
OldCoder |
Most don't? |
06:00 |
M13 |
most pages dont load |
06:00 |
OldCoder |
What happens; exactly? |
06:01 |
M13 |
it takes like 1 minute to connect to minetest.net |
06:01 |
OldCoder |
And this started recently? |
06:01 |
M13 |
yes |
06:01 |
M13 |
like 4 days ago |
06:01 |
OldCoder |
Do you have another PC |
06:01 |
OldCoder |
to try this with? |
06:01 |
M13 |
yes the server |
06:01 |
OldCoder |
Anybody's? |
06:01 |
OldCoder |
And? |
06:02 |
M13 |
it works fine on the net |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
Same modem? |
06:02 |
M13 |
yep |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
So it is not ISP or modem |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
Boot a Ubuntu CD |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
Connect from there |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
What happens? |
06:02 |
M13 |
its on the first drop and this cmputer is on the secong drop |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
By drop do you mean port? |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
Plug into same port |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
What happens? |
06:02 |
M13 |
I booted puppy ad it did the same |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
That is not what I asked |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
|
06:03 |
OldCoder |
Plug server |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
into same port |
06:03 |
M13 |
ok |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
What happens? |
06:03 |
M13 |
let me try the 3rd port for this computer |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
If you wish |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
But |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
I think you should |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
plug server into port |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
That bad PC is using |
06:03 |
OldCoder |
And report what happens |
06:04 |
M13 |
hello |
06:04 |
OldCoder |
? |
06:04 |
M13 |
ok |
06:05 |
M13 |
its acting te same on a different port :-( |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
Explain |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
What is acting same |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
That is not what I asked |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
|
06:05 |
OldCoder |
Plug working server |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
into port |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
that PC was using |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
What happens? |
06:06 |
M13 |
my servers are running :-( |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
You are not listening |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
|
06:06 |
OldCoder |
Try this |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
Boot Ubuntu CD |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
on bad PC |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
Connect to Internet |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
What happens? |
06:07 |
M13 |
Im not going to boot a ubuntu cd and wait 5 minutes |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
Fine |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
|
06:07 |
M13 |
puppy linux does the same |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
|
06:07 |
OldCoder |
M13, you requested my help |
06:07 |
M13 |
the live puppy linux cd |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
Either take it or don't |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
|
06:07 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
06:07 |
M13 |
ok thnx for tring |
06:07 |
M13 |
thying* |
06:07 |
M13 |
trying* |
06:08 |
M13 |
cyah later |
06:18 |
NakedFury |
dammit torches need to give more light |
06:22 |
ecube |
ikr |
06:26 |
NakedFury |
torches give like 1 block of good light |
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06:55 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, hello |
06:55 |
Mika_R |
hi oldcoder |
06:55 |
Mika_R |
restarted the Europe server? |
06:55 |
OldCoder |
Long since |
06:55 |
OldCoder |
Checking |
06:56 |
OldCoder |
It restarts automatically |
06:56 |
OldCoder |
Unless something unusual happens |
06:56 |
Mika_R |
found out yesterday that it didn't list bobblocks in /mods |
06:56 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
06:56 |
OldCoder |
Checking |
06:57 |
OldCoder |
I will update fully right now |
06:57 |
Mika_R |
neither does it now |
06:57 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
06:57 |
OldCoder |
It's on a different server than the main one |
06:57 |
OldCoder |
I need to transfer files over manually |
06:58 |
Mika_R |
ok |
06:58 |
OldCoder |
Stopping server |
06:59 |
OldCoder |
Backing up |
07:01 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, restarted |
07:01 |
OldCoder |
and synced with U.S. worlds |
07:02 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, Calinou's mods have been updated to git and there are other changes |
07:02 |
OldCoder |
Indicate any problems |
07:09 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, still here? |
07:09 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
07:09 |
OldCoder |
Some quick questions |
07:09 |
OldCoder |
Not many |
07:10 |
OldCoder |
You have made dokutest |
07:10 |
OldCoder |
It is a collection of image files for textures |
07:10 |
OldCoder |
For example, dye_red.png |
07:10 |
OldCoder |
which is also set by the mod dye |
07:10 |
OldCoder |
and... |
07:11 |
OldCoder |
wool_blue.png |
07:11 |
NakedFury |
yes |
07:11 |
OldCoder |
which is also set by wool |
07:11 |
OldCoder |
So here is the question |
07:11 |
OldCoder |
is dokutest intended to override all the other mods? |
07:11 |
OldCoder |
Or to override defaults |
07:12 |
OldCoder |
Which can then be overridden by other mods? |
07:12 |
OldCoder |
|
07:12 |
OldCoder |
We experimented with server side textures tonight |
07:12 |
OldCoder |
The results were complicated |
07:12 |
OldCoder |
Therefore comment |
07:12 |
OldCoder |
|
07:12 |
NakedFury |
my first goal is to bring all 3 versions at least for the default collection of mods |
07:12 |
OldCoder |
These are defaults? |
07:12 |
NakedFury |
well they come with minetest game |
07:13 |
OldCoder |
They would overwrite minetest_game/mods/default/textures ? |
07:13 |
OldCoder |
That is where they shouldl go? |
07:13 |
OldCoder |
*should |
07:14 |
NakedFury |
you place them there if you want them to be played only when you do minetest_game. |
07:14 |
OldCoder |
Let me rephrase |
07:14 |
OldCoder |
If minetest_game is used |
07:14 |
OldCoder |
Is that where they go? |
07:14 |
NakedFury |
no |
07:14 |
OldCoder |
explain |
07:14 |
OldCoder |
<NakedFury> you place them there if you want them to be played only when you do minetest_game. |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
Looks like you just confirmed this |
07:15 |
NakedFury |
minetest folder>textures>all |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
No |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
|
07:15 |
OldCoder |
That is not correct |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
We are talking |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
About server side |
07:15 |
NakedFury |
I mean for the specific game minetest_game yes |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
On server side |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
To make textures work |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
There does not appear to be any way |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
Except to move them to the folder |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
minetest_game/mods/default/textures |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
Is this your understanding> |
07:15 |
OldCoder |
? |
07:16 |
NakedFury |
yes. if you do that then you should make a backup of the originals just in case |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
No because... |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
I rebuild everything |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
automatically |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
The server trees are entirely transient |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
So it is fine |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
Just need to verify... |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
You are creating replacements for the default textures |
07:17 |
OldCoder |
And mods may override you |
07:17 |
OldCoder |
|
07:17 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
07:19 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, Is October 8 your latest version? |
07:19 |
NakedFury |
about the textures? |
07:19 |
OldCoder |
dokutest |
07:19 |
OldCoder |
yes |
07:20 |
NakedFury |
I think so. been trying to get technic done and making edits to the other packs |
07:20 |
OldCoder |
k |
07:20 |
NakedFury |
found small mistakes that need to be corrected |
07:20 |
OldCoder |
k |
07:20 |
OldCoder |
For a nice server side |
07:21 |
OldCoder |
Do you recommend anything in addition to dokutest? |
07:21 |
NakedFury |
dont know. I didnt play much minetest and dont know much about the mods |
07:21 |
OldCoder |
|
07:21 |
OldCoder |
I am referring to |
07:21 |
OldCoder |
your textures |
07:21 |
OldCoder |
|
07:22 |
NakedFury |
ohh |
07:22 |
NakedFury |
well no. I havent done anything extra so what I posted is all I have done at the time |
07:23 |
OldCoder |
You mean dokutest? |
07:23 |
NakedFury |
yes |
07:23 |
OldCoder |
k |
07:31 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, Stairs+ updated successfully, as did bobblocks |
07:31 |
OldCoder |
All right |
07:31 |
anunakki |
hmm |
07:31 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, hello |
07:32 |
anunakki |
hi |
07:32 |
anunakki |
servers down again? |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
No |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
Oh! |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
Main ones |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
Up in a minute |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
Nobody was using |
07:32 |
anunakki |
ah, ok |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
I am updating |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
To make nice |
07:32 |
OldCoder |
Wait briefly |
07:38 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, try now |
07:38 |
OldCoder |
But I have just made some changes |
07:39 |
anunakki |
i'm on the europe map |
07:39 |
anunakki |
lot of biulding here |
07:39 |
anunakki |
pretty cool |
07:39 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
07:40 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
07:42 |
DeusFigendi |
erm I asked a few hours ago maybe other ppl reading now :D : How do I change the texture of a block in an ABM? |
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08:17 |
OldCoder |
frigg I am using my own build of HexChat |
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08:18 |
CTMN |
OldCoder can u stop giving stuff to them pls? |
08:18 |
OldCoder |
? |
08:18 |
OldCoder |
To who? |
08:18 |
CTMN |
On the server |
08:19 |
OldCoder |
I have given no more that I recall |
08:19 |
CTMN |
To the both new guys |
08:19 |
OldCoder |
i don't think I have given any more |
08:19 |
CTMN |
They r selling it |
08:19 |
OldCoder |
Let me grep the logs |
08:19 |
OldCoder |
What is a typical item? |
08:19 |
CTMN |
Did u give them privs for giveme? |
08:19 |
CTMN |
Mythril |
08:19 |
OldCoder |
Probably |
08:19 |
OldCoder |
I can revoke that |
08:20 |
OldCoder |
Hang on |
08:20 |
CTMN |
And probably diamond and mese |
08:20 |
OldCoder |
I assume that selling giveme items is considered bad form |
08:21 |
NakedFury |
if they are not admins or moderators and are not making a server shop then yes |
08:22 |
CTMN |
They r playin around with lava |
08:22 |
OldCoder |
I have revoked giveme for both |
08:22 |
OldCoder |
What about give? |
08:22 |
CTMN |
One of them built a lava trap |
08:22 |
OldCoder |
What about give? |
08:22 |
NakedFury |
its cheating in other words. getting items not the way it was meant in and using it to profit |
08:22 |
OldCoder |
Fine |
08:22 |
OldCoder |
I will revoke give as well |
08:23 |
OldCoder |
|
08:23 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
08:23 |
CTMN |
NakedFury, its what I said yesterday and u saw what the others said to me |
08:23 |
OldCoder |
I have revoked give and giveme for both |
08:23 |
OldCoder |
This is an interesting lava device though |
08:24 |
OldCoder |
Does the revocation satisfy people? |
08:24 |
CTMN |
A lava device? |
08:24 |
NakedFury |
I thought they were using it to rebuild a grief attempt not to profit with it |
08:24 |
OldCoder |
Coordinates are: |
08:24 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, you are correct |
08:24 |
CTMN |
Zeitgeist knows one of them |
08:24 |
OldCoder |
-24,7.5,-19.9 |
08:24 |
OldCoder |
Check it out |
08:25 |
CTMN |
Zeitgeist said that he did such things in the past |
08:25 |
OldCoder |
Does the revocation satisfy people? |
08:25 |
CTMN |
That's also why he revoked their privs |
08:26 |
NakedFury |
it would me |
08:26 |
CTMN |
For a time, but not forever |
08:26 |
OldCoder |
CTMN I have revoked give and giveme for both |
08:26 |
CTMN |
Ok |
08:26 |
OldCoder |
Is this sufficient for now? |
08:26 |
OldCoder |
All right |
08:27 |
CTMN |
I will tell u if they r messing around again |
08:27 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
08:27 |
CTMN |
R u online 24/7? |
08:27 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
08:27 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
08:27 |
OldCoder |
No |
08:27 |
OldCoder |
I will sleep for about 4 hours shortly |
08:27 |
CTMN |
It makes the impression |
08:28 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
08:28 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
08:28 |
NakedFury |
is it possible to have different logs for the game? one for chat, one for commands that admins or people with priviledges would use, other for errors only |
08:28 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, Yes |
08:28 |
OldCoder |
It is possible |
08:28 |
CTMN |
With Lua? |
08:28 |
CTMN |
I don't think |
08:28 |
OldCoder |
CTMN, Lua the language can process texxt |
08:28 |
OldCoder |
*text |
08:28 |
CTMN |
I know |
08:28 |
OldCoder |
But I don't know if it has access to that level |
08:29 |
OldCoder |
If you wish to review the logs |
08:29 |
OldCoder |
I can modify the servers to... |
08:29 |
CTMN |
That's what I mean |
08:29 |
OldCoder |
make them display what NakedFury asks |
08:29 |
OldCoder |
quite easily |
08:29 |
CTMN |
No I don't wish |
08:29 |
NakedFury |
not me but for ease of use for owners like you |
08:29 |
OldCoder |
Remind me later this month |
08:29 |
OldCoder |
It is a simple matter |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
CTMN It is an interesting lava device |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps a bit dangerous |
08:30 |
CTMN |
Its a lava trap |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
Trap? |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
It is not hidden |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
There is a waterfall of lava |
08:30 |
CTMN |
Im goin afk will get back |
08:30 |
OldCoder |
k |
08:31 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, For server owners it is easy to display the logs via the Web |
08:31 |
OldCoder |
Assuming they have VPS |
08:33 |
NakedFury |
I guess having them show all information in their separate logs would facilitate operations. finding people bad mounthing in chat or corrupted admins, or easily seeing the errors, and another log for placement. if it needed to go even crasier a placement log for each individual player. so you can see who used that lava |
08:34 |
OldCoder |
A Perl script will do this |
08:35 |
NakedFury |
it would read the games debug and sort it out in other txt files? |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
By the Web |
08:35 |
NakedFury |
nice |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
Very simple |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
If there are more incidents such as today |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
1. griefing |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
2. complaints about cheating |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
I will put the logs online in real time |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
Then people can decide what happened |
08:35 |
OldCoder |
|
08:36 |
NakedFury |
thats cool |
08:39 |
CTMN |
Im back again |
08:39 |
OldCoder |
k |
08:39 |
CTMN |
One of them built a house with a door out of trapstones |
08:39 |
OldCoder |
What are those? |
08:39 |
CTMN |
When I entered it, there were trapstones on the floor |
08:40 |
CTMN |
Trapstones r stones that don't collide with the player |
08:40 |
OldCoder |
CTMN, I will probably make logs available to all in the uture |
08:40 |
OldCoder |
Via the Web |
08:40 |
CTMN |
K |
08:40 |
OldCoder |
Then everybody can decide things |
08:40 |
OldCoder |
Not tonight, though. Almost time to nap. |
08:40 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, cheating? |
08:40 |
CTMN |
Maybe write the coords |
08:41 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, he states so |
08:41 |
Mika_R |
in what game? |
08:41 |
OldCoder |
Port 30001 |
08:41 |
OldCoder |
U.S. |
08:41 |
CTMN |
Hmmm... What was it called? XD |
08:41 |
OldCoder |
Tuxworld |
08:41 |
CTMN |
Minetest |
08:41 |
CTMN |
Tuxworld??? |
08:42 |
Mika_R |
someone want to tell me how is it possible to cheat in this game? |
08:42 |
OldCoder |
There are about 15 worlds |
08:42 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, by misusing privileges |
08:42 |
OldCoder |
Also by using a hacked client |
08:42 |
Mika_R |
ok |
08:43 |
CTMN |
Is it possible to cheat with hacked clients? |
08:43 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
08:43 |
OldCoder |
I believe so |
08:43 |
OldCoder |
Or at least to grief |
08:43 |
CTMN |
I thougt they only draw the image and send the user input to the server |
08:44 |
CTMN |
Even modded textures r loaded from the server |
08:44 |
OldCoder |
CTMN, There are security holes |
08:44 |
CTMN |
Yes... |
08:44 |
NakedFury |
I thought changing source code changed something in the game that didnt let you join another version of the game |
08:44 |
OldCoder |
Depends |
08:44 |
OldCoder |
I have been told... |
08:44 |
CTMN |
NakedFury: It depends on what u change |
08:44 |
OldCoder |
There are security holes in the server code that can be exploited |
08:45 |
OldCoder |
I am rebuilding HexChat |
08:45 |
CTMN |
Ur right |
08:45 |
OldCoder |
This will take me offline for a minute |
08:45 |
CTMN |
Hexchat? |
08:45 |
OldCoder |
My IRC program |
08:45 |
CTMN |
Ur IRC client |
08:45 |
OldCoder |
I maintain a Linux distro |
08:45 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
08:45 |
OldCoder |
I am building all the programs |
08:45 |
CTMN |
K... |
08:46 |
CTMN |
Maybe Ill take a look on the client source... |
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08:47 |
CTMN |
Did anyone see real hackers that used exploits? |
08:47 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
08:47 |
OldCoder |
You have been suspected of being the best one |
08:47 |
OldCoder |
Wait; I am restarting |
08:48 |
CTMN |
Me being a hacker? |
08:48 |
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08:48 |
OldCoder |
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08:48 |
CTMN |
Me being a hacker?.. |
08:48 |
OldCoder |
It does not matter |
08:49 |
CTMN |
What does not matter? |
08:49 |
OldCoder |
The point; hackers |
08:49 |
OldCoder |
Excuse me. I am tired and finishing things for now. |
08:49 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. They have updated the HexChat icon. |
08:50 |
CTMN |
OldCoder, there r several bugs on the server |
08:50 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
08:50 |
NakedFury |
that reminded me to check for my hexchats updates |
08:50 |
OldCoder |
We will try to fix some things |
08:50 |
CTMN |
Zeitgeist and me got some air and water flow blocks |
08:50 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, Best to build from source |
08:50 |
NakedFury |
be back in a bit |
08:50 |
OldCoder |
CTMN, All right |
08:50 |
OldCoder |
CTMN, Is there a fix you need? |
08:50 |
CTMN |
Just wanted to say |
08:50 |
CTMN |
No |
08:50 |
OldCoder |
All right |
08:51 |
CTMN |
I generally think the server and the map should be restarted |
08:51 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
08:51 |
OldCoder |
If you wish a new world... |
08:51 |
OldCoder |
It is open for discussion |
08:51 |
OldCoder |
If you don't want to play with those two we can talk about it |
08:51 |
CTMN |
The worst thing is that the village was generated without the moreores mod |
08:51 |
OldCoder |
Do you have another built-up world you wish to use? |
08:51 |
CTMN |
The two guys rnt a problem |
08:52 |
CTMN |
No |
08:52 |
OldCoder |
Do you wish to redo part of the village? |
08:52 |
OldCoder |
This world was created by mrtux |
08:52 |
CTMN |
Lets talk later gtg |
08:52 |
OldCoder |
It is largely his decision |
08:52 |
OldCoder |
All right |
08:52 |
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08:53 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, wb |
08:53 |
NakedFury |
yeah the icon seems better for the name |
08:55 |
NakedFury |
what are ctcp? |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
Messages |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
Did somebody just CTCP you? |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
They were checking your program |
08:56 |
NakedFury |
by someone named frigg |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
He did it to me too |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
It is usual |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
08:56 |
OldCoder |
I can do it to him |
08:57 |
OldCoder |
He seems to have blocked them |
08:57 |
NakedFury |
well nevermind that |
08:58 |
OldCoder |
k |
08:59 |
NakedFury |
minecraft keeps shrinking blocks so I have to edit more of them now |
08:59 |
OldCoder |
k |
09:02 |
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09:03 |
OldCoder |
kotolegokot, I am using one of your mods |
09:03 |
OldCoder |
Two |
09:03 |
OldCoder |
Locked Sign and Money |
09:04 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, what was the address to your US servers? |
09:04 |
kotolegokot |
I am glad that my mods useful to someone. |
09:04 |
NakedFury |
http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ |
09:04 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
09:05 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, also: |
09:05 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/ |
09:05 |
OldCoder |
That is easier to remember |
09:05 |
NakedFury |
I typed that but it changed |
09:05 |
NakedFury |
just noticed its different |
09:05 |
Mika_R |
changed the location? |
09:05 |
NakedFury |
but yes, minetest.org is easier to remember |
09:08 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, The pages are the same |
09:08 |
OldCoder |
I have three of them now |
09:08 |
OldCoder |
I will add more MT material |
09:08 |
OldCoder |
Code and scripts and screenshots |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
One moment |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineworlds.html |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
|
09:09 |
OldCoder |
That page is new |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
i wish to collect |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
Coordinates and stories |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
Of interesting places |
09:09 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, write coordinates of your places |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
and their stories |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
They will be added to the travelogue |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
Click the link and you will see |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
|
09:10 |
Mika_R |
haven't built any interesting yet, still under construction |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
all right |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
time to zzz |
09:10 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
09:10 |
* OldCoder |
is resting |
09:11 |
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09:20 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
09:22 |
NakedFury |
hey |
09:23 |
NakedFury |
whats going on in your lua head PilzAdam? |
09:23 |
FreeFull |
Hi |
09:24 |
PilzAdam |
NakedFury, sleep() |
09:24 |
PilzAdam |
now: read(ForumIO(minetest.net)) |
09:24 |
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10:00 |
Jordach |
hello everyone |
10:00 |
PilzAdam |
hi Jordach |
10:00 |
Jordach |
good morning adam |
10:01 |
Jordach |
you shoud try europe.minetest.org |
10:08 |
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10:16 |
Jordach |
Vohveli, what is your status with c55? |
10:30 |
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10:37 |
CTMN |
OldCoder, r u readin the forums? |
10:37 |
thexyz |
v2s32 means vector of 2 4-bytes signed ints |
10:37 |
thexyz |
isn't that clear? |
10:37 |
NakedFury |
it is now |
10:41 |
Jordach |
thexyz, explain v3s16 |
10:41 |
thexyz |
same thing |
10:41 |
thexyz |
vector of 3 2-bytes signed ints |
10:42 |
NakedFury |
RBA wanted to know to find a way to add backgrounds to the menus and gui's |
10:46 |
CTMN |
The menu has already one |
10:46 |
NakedFury |
for the transparent windows? |
10:46 |
CTMN |
No |
10:47 |
NakedFury |
that is what he wanted |
10:47 |
CTMN |
Oh ok |
10:49 |
CTMN |
Maybe show images and draw on them? |
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11:32 |
artur99 |
hey |
11:32 |
artur99 |
whats up, brothers? |
11:34 |
artur99 |
is enybody here? |
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11:42 |
NakedFury |
most are sleeping |
11:42 |
artur99 |
here is 2 pm |
11:42 |
artur99 |
there is 4 am,isnt there? |
11:43 |
NakedFury |
puerto rico - 7.43 am |
11:43 |
artur99 |
aaa |
11:43 |
artur99 |
7 |
11:43 |
artur99 |
are u american? |
11:43 |
artur99 |
im romanian |
11:43 |
NakedFury |
nice to meet you |
11:44 |
artur99 |
are u american? |
11:44 |
artur99 |
im 13, u? |
11:44 |
NakedFury |
well puerto rico is a colony of USA so I guess I am |
11:44 |
artur99 |
aaa |
11:45 |
artur99 |
how old? |
11:45 |
NakedFury |
24 |
11:45 |
artur99 |
are u? |
11:45 |
artur99 |
old man |
11:45 |
artur99 |
;) |
11:45 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
11:45 |
artur99 |
do u have an site? |
11:45 |
NakedFury |
no |
11:45 |
artur99 |
*a site? |
11:46 |
artur99 |
where do u work, what domain? |
11:46 |
NakedFury |
no internet work, college student |
11:46 |
artur99 |
what type of studing? |
11:47 |
NakedFury |
architecture |
11:47 |
artur99 |
aaa |
11:48 |
NakedFury |
switched from something in accounting I was studying so im still new at it |
11:49 |
NakedFury |
hopefuly I will finish when im 28 |
11:50 |
NakedFury |
almost 6 years after I should have finished |
11:50 |
NakedFury |
you should learn what you want to be and go for it fast |
11:50 |
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11:51 |
artur99 |
frate, esti? |
11:51 |
artur99 |
is enybody here? |
11:52 |
NakedFury |
no idea |
11:52 |
costy |
hi!! |
11:53 |
artur99 |
helo, costy! |
11:53 |
Mika_R |
in here now |
11:53 |
Mika_R |
ti*m |
11:53 |
artur99 |
whats up? |
11:53 |
Mika_R |
i'm* |
11:54 |
Mika_R |
thinking how to make my house |
11:54 |
costy |
I don't speak very good english we teach me please |
11:54 |
Mika_R |
costy, from? |
11:54 |
artur99 |
costy is my friend, he is 14, and is romanian like me... He dont speak english as good as me.... |
11:54 |
* PilzAdam |
is back |
11:55 |
Mika_R |
ok |
11:56 |
artur99 |
mika, so early wake up? |
11:56 |
Mika_R |
no, it's 14:56 |
11:56 |
costy |
mika,o'clock is 14:56?? |
11:56 |
artur99 |
mika, whwew are u from? |
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11:57 |
Mika_R |
Finland |
11:57 |
artur99 |
aaa |
11:57 |
costy |
mika e din finlanda?? artur99?? |
11:57 |
artur99 |
there's 2 pm as here in romania |
11:57 |
artur99 |
mda cosy... |
11:58 |
artur99 |
but in america is 7:57 am |
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11:58 |
costy |
zeg_9 where are you from?? |
11:58 |
artur99 |
mika, how old? |
11:59 |
Mika_R |
artur it can be 5 am in US too |
11:59 |
artur99 |
â€has left†is the same with â€leaved the roomâ€, costy! |
11:59 |
artur99 |
yes... |
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12:00 |
costy |
mika how old |
12:00 |
costy |
?? |
12:00 |
costy |
ii bum artur?? |
12:00 |
Mika_R |
21 |
12:01 |
artur99 |
are u student? |
12:01 |
costy |
goog i have 14 |
12:01 |
costy |
you are boy or girl?? |
12:02 |
Mika_R |
male |
12:02 |
costy |
aaaa yes |
12:02 |
artur99 |
do u have a site? |
12:02 |
artur99 |
is here eny girl? |
12:02 |
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12:03 |
costy |
do not joined mine test |
12:03 |
PilzAdam |
is this a examination? |
12:03 |
artur99 |
what? |
12:03 |
artur99 |
aaa |
12:04 |
artur99 |
he tried say he dosent played the game yet |
12:04 |
artur99 |
is here eny girl? |
12:05 |
PilzAdam |
i mean the "how old are you?" questions |
12:05 |
PilzAdam |
why are you asking this? |
12:05 |
artur99 |
curiosity |
12:05 |
artur99 |
:D |
12:07 |
thexyz |
killed the cat |
12:07 |
artur99 |
who? |
12:07 |
artur99 |
a car? |
12:07 |
artur99 |
or a dog? |
12:07 |
thexyz |
curiosity |
12:07 |
artur99 |
:)) |
12:09 |
q66 |
curiosity killed a cat? |
12:09 |
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12:09 |
q66 |
i thought there were no cats on mars |
12:09 |
thexyz |
there was one |
12:09 |
artur99 |
:)))) |
12:09 |
artur99 |
my cat |
12:10 |
artur99 |
This curiosity: |
12:10 |
artur99 |
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120803.html |
12:10 |
artur99 |
? |
12:11 |
artur99 |
:) |
12:11 |
Jordach |
the dog curiosity "rover type breed" killed my cat.. |
12:11 |
PilzAdam |
i know what curiosity is |
12:11 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, lol |
12:11 |
PilzAdam |
i also know spirit |
12:12 |
q66 |
there also was sojourner |
12:12 |
artur99 |
the film, or your spirit? |
12:13 |
PilzAdam |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_rover |
12:14 |
artur99 |
aaa! the rover |
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12:16 |
artur99 |
who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him something |
12:19 |
artur99 |
who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him something |
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12:22 |
artur99 |
who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him/her something |
12:22 |
VanessaE |
morning all.. |
12:22 |
thexyz |
well, that ignore thing may be really useful |
12:22 |
Mika_R |
hi vanessaE, think i found a problem in your mods |
12:23 |
artur99 |
good night... here is 3 pm |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
what problem? |
12:23 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
hey PilzAdam - get my message on the forum? |
12:23 |
Mika_R |
seems like you've taken the old recepy away on plastic, the one melting dry shrubs |
12:24 |
VanessaE |
mika: revised. three dry shrubs now. |
12:24 |
Mika_R |
impossible |
12:24 |
VanessaE |
(or three jungle grass, or 6 leaves) |
12:24 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, about the font? |
12:24 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: yeah |
12:24 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: are there any screenshots of that font? |
12:25 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: not yet |
12:25 |
VanessaE |
Mika_R: impossible? |
12:26 |
Mika_R |
wasn't the old code to melt dry shrubs or am i wrong to make plastic |
12:26 |
VanessaE |
Mika_R: it was two dry shrubs before, but two junglegrass conflicted with throwing mod, so I changed both for consistency |
12:27 |
* Jordach |
is going out for mac donalds |
12:27 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: bring back a bacon egg and cheese bagel for me? ;-) |
12:27 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i dont have time travel |
12:27 |
VanessaE |
(Haven't had one of those in years) |
12:27 |
Jordach |
i also re installed windows xp |
12:27 |
Jordach |
bbl |
12:29 |
Mika_R |
Vanessa how do i remember that on redcrab's server i burnt the shrubs to get plastic |
12:29 |
VanessaE |
mika: I changed it so that you have to craft jungle grass or dry shrub or leaves into raw plastic and then cook that to get the plastic sheeting. |
12:30 |
VanessaE |
needed so that I could require multiple items to make one plastic sheet - avoids recipe conflicts with other mods. |
12:30 |
Mika_R |
ok, i was gonna say that on this other server with dyes, burning shrubs makes brown color |
12:31 |
VanessaE |
exactly. :-) |
12:32 |
VanessaE |
(translation: a default two- or three-input alloy oven similar to the one in technic would have been a smart idea) |
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12:33 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: question, if a server is using the old xdoors mod (the one that uses the default wood texture on one-node-high nodebox based doors), can Xdoors2 directly replace it? |
12:35 |
VanessaE |
(or the default doors - either way) |
12:37 |
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12:43 |
VanessaE |
er, single-node, two-node-high I meant of course. |
12:44 |
PilzAdam |
why do i have to answer the anti spam questions in the forum from time to time? |
12:45 |
VanessaE |
I always assumed it had to do with the content of my posts or something |
12:45 |
VanessaE |
I get those questions every so often also |
12:45 |
PilzAdam |
i get it when i switch the PC and randomly ~1 time in a month |
12:49 |
artur99 |
Who is good here in site creeating? I want to ask him/her something... |
12:49 |
VanessaE |
just ask your question, artur99. |
12:49 |
VanessaE |
provided it is minetest related. |
12:49 |
artur99 |
ok |
12:51 |
artur99 |
how to creeate an window to be larger when is cliked |
12:51 |
VanessaE |
answer: you don't, because people hate that. |
12:51 |
artur99 |
do u have a facebook account for exemple? |
12:52 |
VanessaE |
I do. |
12:52 |
artur99 |
when u clikc an image, it is bigger in a window in the center of the browser |
12:53 |
VanessaE |
I don't know how that's done. |
12:53 |
artur99 |
go to facebook |
12:54 |
artur99 |
and clik on the last image on the news feed |
12:54 |
VanessaE |
I mean I don't know the code needed to do that offhand. |
12:54 |
artur99 |
aaa |
12:54 |
artur99 |
do u have a site? |
12:54 |
VanessaE |
still, what's this got to do with minetest? |
12:54 |
artur99 |
nothing... |
12:55 |
artur99 |
u said: |
12:55 |
artur99 |
„just ask your question, artur99.†|
12:55 |
artur99 |
:D |
12:55 |
VanessaE |
[10-13 08:49] <VanessaE> provided it is minetest related. |
12:56 |
artur99 |
are u a girl or a boy? |
12:56 |
VanessaE |
I'm a girl of course. |
12:57 |
VanessaE |
anyway you'd be better off asking your website question in a web development channel |
12:57 |
artur99 |
how old? |
12:58 |
VanessaE |
Old enough. :-) |
12:58 |
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13:05 |
Mika_R |
vanessaE, got screenshots of those 2 red brick houses you've made in single player? |
13:06 |
VanessaE |
sure, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2372 |
13:07 |
Mika_R |
is there much stairs, panels, slabs? |
13:07 |
VanessaE |
in the smaller one, none at all - it was built before the advent of nodeboxes et.al |
13:07 |
Mika_R |
ok |
13:08 |
VanessaE |
the second uses a few but mostly relies on homedecor and bobblocks for the details. |
13:08 |
VanessaE |
I'd like to get redcrab or cactuzpl or someone to export the one I build on redcrab,suret,net:30401, that one is the best of the three |
13:08 |
Mika_R |
cause bob the builder cant use special pieces |
13:10 |
VanessaE |
I think both can be built well enough without such things, but you might want to make sure about that |
13:10 |
Mika_R |
when i get the game to work i'll see what they take |
13:13 |
Mika_R |
242 glass, 515 stone, 1007 planks 1064 bricks, i guess it's the smaller one, would be to put 63 fences at least myself |
13:13 |
VanessaE |
whew |
13:13 |
VanessaE |
I didn't realize how expensive that house was :D |
13:14 |
Mika_R |
that was the bigger one |
13:14 |
VanessaE |
ah |
13:14 |
Mika_R |
small one: 1141 cobble, 565 bricks, 750 planks, 137 glass |
13:15 |
Mika_R |
its only listed the big amounts, then there is some chests, furnace, bookshelfs |
13:15 |
VanessaE |
right |
13:18 |
Mika_R |
i have built 6 of 21 buildings that bob has blueprints on |
13:18 |
VanessaE |
cool |
13:20 |
Mika_R |
there is still 6 possible buildings but they take space and resources |
13:22 |
Mika_R |
one of the most expensive is acdc house with 1448 planks, 570 sand, 488 trees and 528 stairs |
13:24 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, have you made these seaweed? |
13:24 |
VanessaE |
yes |
13:25 |
VanessaE |
though I'm not at all convinced it behaves right. |
13:25 |
Mika_R |
they seem to spawn up to 2 blocks from water |
13:25 |
VanessaE |
yes |
13:26 |
VanessaE |
I think I need to reduce that to 1 block from water and only on the same vertical position |
13:26 |
Mika_R |
how about making them spawn on sand and dirt only? |
13:29 |
VanessaE |
I dunno |
13:29 |
Mika_R |
now they even grow in my basement where i have watermills to generate power |
13:29 |
VanessaE |
I don't want to mess up peoples' nice beaches |
13:29 |
Mika_R |
then dirt only |
13:30 |
VanessaE |
maybe you're right |
13:30 |
Mika_R |
ill restart, brb |
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13:33 |
Mika_R |
im back |
13:33 |
VanessaE |
wb |
13:33 |
VanessaE |
ok, water, dirt, grass only, and only within one node of a shoreline. |
13:33 |
VanessaE |
now I'm looking for the best way to make it spawn on stone but only on stones that are surrounded by water |
13:34 |
Mika_R |
i'll take a look at my place if it grows around |
13:37 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, how do i make myself almighty on singleplayer? |
13:37 |
VanessaE |
/grant singleplayer all |
13:38 |
Mika_R |
how does give work? |
13:39 |
VanessaE |
/giveme default:stone 999 |
13:39 |
Mika_R |
thx |
13:40 |
Mika_R |
ill test that towntest in singleplayer if it works properly |
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13:44 |
Kacey |
hello |
13:45 |
Mika_R |
hi |
13:45 |
Kacey |
how r u |
13:45 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, back |
13:45 |
VanessaE |
wb |
13:45 |
Kacey |
hello jordach |
13:46 |
Mika_R |
vanessaE, am i supposed to put the zip or extract it to the mods folder+ |
13:46 |
Mika_R |
? |
13:46 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
what zip? |
13:47 |
Mika_R |
to get mods in singleplayer, i have towntest as a zip file |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
oh |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
extract the zip somewhere, rename the resultant folder if necessary, then copy the folder to your minetest mods directory |
13:48 |
VanessaE |
(rename is needed for example if a mod came from github) |
13:48 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, unless you insert a folder into the git repo |
13:48 |
Jordach |
like i do |
13:48 |
VanessaE |
right |
13:49 |
VanessaE |
I do that with my texture packs |
13:49 |
VanessaE |
but not with my mods |
13:49 |
Jordach |
all i have to do is drag my folder out and done |
13:49 |
VanessaE |
is there an easy way in Lua to get he length of a returned list? |
13:49 |
VanessaE |
the* |
13:49 |
Kacey |
i still need a good texture making software |
13:50 |
Jordach |
the gimp |
13:50 |
Jordach |
paint.net |
13:50 |
VanessaE |
kacey: any good image editor will do that job just fine |
13:50 |
Kacey |
besides micrrosoft paint |
13:50 |
Kacey |
gimp is confusing |
13:51 |
VanessaE |
take time to learn it |
13:51 |
Kacey |
brb |
13:52 |
VanessaE |
table.getn(myArray) |
13:52 |
VanessaE |
that's the function I needed. |
13:53 |
Kacey |
found the download button |
13:55 |
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13:55 |
Kacey |
back |
13:59 |
Kacey |
hello... |
13:59 |
VanessaE |
hi |
13:59 |
Kacey |
i am downloading paint.net |
14:01 |
Kacey |
i am sooooo tired |
14:03 |
Kacey |
anybody home!!!! |
14:04 |
Jordach |
hmm |
14:06 |
OldCoder |
Back |
14:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Artur is in Romania |
14:06 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, are all the mods on Europe newest releases? |
14:08 |
VanessaE |
good morning OldCoder |
14:08 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, They are the newest that people have said to use and that are considered stable. If you notice something out of date let me know. |
14:08 |
Kacey |
paint.net is pretty cool |
14:09 |
OldCoder |
Who paged me? |
14:09 |
OldCoder |
*scroll* |
14:10 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, can't make glow glass, they are more blocks and that mod is on the list |
14:11 |
VanessaE |
Mika_R: I think I have the changes for flowers done right. testing that now. |
14:11 |
Kacey |
reload the mod |
14:12 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, verifying it is there |
14:12 |
Kacey |
im going to make a player texture |
14:13 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, which mod is glow glass? |
14:13 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, as far as i know its moreblocks |
14:14 |
OldCoder |
You have the latest version from git |
14:14 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
14:14 |
Kacey |
yes it is moreblocks |
14:15 |
Kacey |
my player texture is going to be awesome |
14:15 |
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14:16 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, moreblocks is there and it is a version from two days ago. If you tell me what to search for I will grep the logs. |
14:16 |
OldCoder |
This is the Europe world BTW |
14:16 |
Mika_R |
i'm on europe and try to make glowglass without success |
14:16 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, see the above |
14:17 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, moreblocks is there and it is a version from two days ago. If you tell me what to search for I will grep the logs. |
14:17 |
Mika_R |
dummy that down for me |
14:17 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, There is not enough information for me to say anything at all. |
14:17 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, I have the logs |
14:17 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, we can fix this |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, tell me what to look for in the logs |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, then perhaps I can comment |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Done |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
|
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, I do not maintain mods |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, Instead I coordinate them |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, I can also help to debug them |
14:18 |
Mika_R |
all i know is that glowglass is a part of moreblocks, and is crafted middle row from bottom up is glass and torch |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, If glowglass does not work please speak with mod author |
14:19 |
OldCoder |
Calinou |
14:19 |
OldCoder |
|
14:19 |
OldCoder |
I will grep the logs now |
14:20 |
Kacey |
laggy computer |
14:21 |
OldCoder |
|
14:21 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, can you provide information about what to look for in the logs? I do not see glow anywhere in the main log |
14:21 |
OldCoder |
|
14:22 |
Mika_R |
wait a sec |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
In the debug log is this: |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
09:24:22: VERBOSE[main]: Server: 03490126d74209265e4a097f220b72704e548050 is moreblocks_glowglass.png |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
|
14:22 |
OldCoder |
It appears glowglass is present |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
So is superglowglass |
14:23 |
OldCoder |
|
14:23 |
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14:23 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, it is not called glowglass but superglowglass |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, does moreblocks contain glowglass or superglowglass? |
14:24 |
Calinou |
superglowglass = same texture as glowglass but glows more :P |
14:24 |
Calinou |
it contains both |
14:24 |
Calinou |
glowglass is light level 10, superglowglass 14 |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, I see super in the logs but not regular |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
There it is |
14:24 |
Calinou |
superglowglass is 1 glass + 2 torch, glowglass 1 glass + 1 torch |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
"moreblocks:glowglass 1", recipe={ "torch","glass" } |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, state the problem again |
14:25 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, the recipe is registered and in the logs |
14:25 |
Mika_R |
i cant make them |
14:25 |
VanessaE |
is there a command I can issue that will freeze the day/night cycle at a certain time? |
14:25 |
JangoFett154 |
Hey OldCoder i dont hvae give priv, i cant finish the mansin without it |
14:25 |
Mika_R |
i have the lua in the background and found it there, don't know how old release |
14:26 |
OldCoder |
JangoFett154, PM |
14:29 |
Mika_R |
i can craft about everything else there is in moreblocks, but not glowglass |
14:29 |
Mika_R |
Calinou, have you changed any recipes? |
14:32 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder, Mika_R: please update your copies of flowers mod |
14:32 |
VanessaE |
I've reworked the seaweed. |
14:33 |
Mika_R |
nice |
14:33 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: you really should use shapeless recipes for [super]glowglass and bronze btw. |
14:33 |
Calinou |
it does already |
14:33 |
VanessaE |
as well as coal and iron glasses |
14:34 |
VanessaE |
when did that change? |
14:34 |
Kacey |
ok player front s done |
14:35 |
Kacey |
player back is done |
14:36 |
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14:37 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
14:37 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Proceeding |
14:39 |
Kacey |
what is the adress that you put in to make two clients on the same computer |
14:40 |
VanessaE |
127.0.0.1 |
14:40 |
VanessaE |
if you set up a server locally of course |
14:40 |
Kacey |
ok |
14:42 |
Kacey |
ok need to work on transparency |
14:50 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, flowers are updated but will not appear until next server rebuild. I will hold that until later today unless people need it. Reason is to avoid too many interruptions of players. |
14:50 |
VanessaE |
ok |
14:50 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, BTW some of your textures are now in. I will proceed judiciously. Adding or subtracting individual textures to find a good mix. |
14:51 |
VanessaE |
sounds good |
14:51 |
VanessaE |
bbl, I need to lie down |
14:51 |
OldCoder |
k |
14:52 |
OldCoder |
Is there consensus regarding Mika_R glowglass issue? |
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14:55 |
Jordach |
VanessaE should have this http://i.imgur.com/xSraQ.jpg |
14:55 |
Kacey |
my texture is pretty good |
14:55 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, what is it for? |
14:56 |
Kacey |
player texture |
14:57 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I will make it one of the player textures if you like for the server nexus |
14:57 |
OldCoder |
Eventually everybody will have one |
14:57 |
OldCoder |
of their own, I mean |
14:58 |
Kacey |
it is still a wip |
14:58 |
OldCoder |
Fine |
14:58 |
Kacey |
but that would be ok |
14:58 |
Kacey |
5 minutes is all i need |
14:58 |
OldCoder |
When you are ready, provide a copy |
14:58 |
OldCoder |
No rush |
14:58 |
Kacey |
ok |
14:58 |
OldCoder |
Take longer |
14:58 |
OldCoder |
I am here |
14:58 |
Kacey |
ok |
14:59 |
Kacey |
trasparency isue |
14:59 |
Kacey |
issue* |
15:02 |
Kacey |
ok got player front done |
15:04 |
* PilzAdam |
is back |
15:05 |
Kacey |
hello |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, wb |
15:06 |
Kacey |
PilzAdam i like your workers mod |
15:07 |
PilzAdam |
only parts of it are from me |
15:07 |
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15:07 |
Kacey |
really? |
15:07 |
PilzAdam |
you mean Towntest? |
15:07 |
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15:07 |
Kacey |
no workers mod |
15:07 |
PilzAdam |
what workers mod? |
15:08 |
Kacey |
sorry i thought you were local_alchemist |
15:08 |
PilzAdam |
why? |
15:08 |
Kacey |
idk |
15:10 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/c8Rwp.gif |
15:10 |
OldCoder |
? |
15:12 |
Kacey |
freakin a man |
15:12 |
Kacey |
transparency hates me |
15:13 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/eMBoO - this needs to be an ore NOW, Calinou, get to it, |
15:14 |
Kacey |
.lol |
15:14 |
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15:15 |
NakedFury |
dammit there are so many silvery looking ores it pisses me off |
15:15 |
Kacey |
lol |
15:16 |
Kacey |
make it all colorful |
15:17 |
Kacey |
my brain hurts man |
15:25 |
Calinou |
tin and silver look quite similar, yeah :p |
15:25 |
Calinou |
http://imgur.com/gallery/W8TBc < lol |
15:28 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, any thoughts on Mika_R glowglass issue? If none sorry to disturb you |
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15:32 |
Calinou |
dunno |
15:33 |
NakedFury |
silver, tin, zinc, chromium |
15:34 |
NakedFury |
unless I just add a color to the silver they end up looking the same |
15:34 |
NakedFury |
that or also add/make new mineral looking versions but when it comes to ingot they end up looking the same |
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16:06 |
T_A_N_K |
sfan5, come play rigs of rods with me on the server! |
16:06 |
sfan5 |
now? |
16:07 |
T_A_N_K |
yes |
16:07 |
T_A_N_K |
rigs of rods works perfect in wine now |
16:09 |
Jordach |
T_A_N_K, sfan5, id rather be playing qwop |
16:09 |
sfan5 |
lol |
16:09 |
T_A_N_K |
i am on server smallisland.terrn |
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16:15 |
OldCoder |
mrtux, Hello |
16:15 |
mrtux |
hi |
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16:29 |
PilzAdam |
little update in throwing mod: https://github.com/PilzAdam/throwing/commit/c74812bee3751b130c6130adb36912a8e167634c |
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rubenwardy |
My brother is a two-faced little arser |
16:35 |
rubenwardy |
*arse |
16:36 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, same here |
16:37 |
Jordach |
and why> |
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16:50 |
PilzAdam |
the spawing of the mobs in mobs mod can now be disabled by other mods: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/843009965f98f6aa51de417156651f67587dbb23 |
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16:56 |
Jordach |
whoops, close button is evil in xchat without warnings :( |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
16:57 |
FreeFull |
Jordach: That's why I use irssi in tmux =P |
16:57 |
Calinou |
lolirssi |
16:57 |
Calinou |
hexchat FTW |
16:57 |
FreeFull |
Bleh, GUI |
16:58 |
Jordach |
FreeFull, Calinou, WINDOWS XP |
16:58 |
NakedFury |
bleh other ircs. hexchat rules them all |
16:58 |
Calinou |
Jordach: hexchat works on windows |
16:58 |
Jordach |
AdiIRC |
16:58 |
NakedFury |
yes it does! |
16:58 |
Jordach |
:D |
16:58 |
NakedFury |
I am using hexchat windows 7 64x |
16:58 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: Does hexchat warn you if you press x ? |
16:58 |
Calinou |
no |
16:58 |
Calinou |
but why would you do that? |
16:58 |
Calinou |
X == close |
16:58 |
Calinou |
- == minimize |
16:59 |
Calinou |
X only minimizing is stupid |
16:59 |
Calinou |
and warnings are stupid |
16:59 |
Calinou |
they're from the windows world |
16:59 |
Calinou |
"DO U WANT TO DELTE DIS??????????" |
16:59 |
Calinou |
when you're just pressing "del", which puts stuff in trash |
16:59 |
* PilzAdam |
deletes Calinou without warning |
16:59 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i like what i like |
16:59 |
Jordach |
DEAL WITH IT |
17:00 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, can you kick Calinou's ass |
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17:02 |
PilzAdam |
wtf: https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/blob/master/init.lua#L150 |
17:02 |
PilzAdam |
does nobody read my mods and see bugs like this? |
17:02 |
Calinou |
looks like github's text editing is now server side... and lacks syntax coloring for me :| |
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17:04 |
* Jordach |
uses notepad++ |
17:04 |
Jordach |
deal. with. it. |
17:04 |
Jordach |
also, dinner |
17:05 |
thexyz |
i thought nobody uses it |
17:06 |
thexyz |
at least it's better than notepad.exe |
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RealBadAngel |
hi |
17:09 |
Calinou |
NP++ ftw |
17:10 |
Calinou |
thexyz: a lot of people use it |
17:10 |
Calinou |
most used editor after windows' notepad |
17:10 |
thexyz |
that doesn't make it better |
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17:13 |
Calinou |
it has lots of stuff :P |
17:13 |
Calinou |
eg. find something in a folder (in text's content), and replace it |
17:13 |
Calinou |
no fucking around with sed anymore (and there's no sed on windows anyway) |
17:14 |
thexyz |
i'm sure there is |
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PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/commit/0d2d3d203bc46a28a77383dca3870f514808f3d4 |
17:26 |
rubenwardy |
is github down *again* |
17:26 |
PilzAdam |
no... ? |
17:30 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, DNS not resolved? |
17:31 |
rubenwardy |
it works now, for me |
17:31 |
rubenwardy |
for i a few secs it was |
17:32 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, the eu is testing major network ddos attacks |
17:32 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, citation needed |
17:34 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, that sounds like the most obvious cause |
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* Jordach_ |
is burning Wip3out 3 to CD |
17:55 |
PilzAdam |
strange... all youtube vids are blue/red inverted |
17:55 |
Jordach_ |
Google is probably upto its tricks |
17:58 |
Jordach_ |
PilzAdam, is your gpu dying? |
17:58 |
Jordach_ |
youtube is the same |
17:58 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
17:58 |
Vohveli |
Jordach_: he's an IRC acquaintance mostly, I've known him some 7-8 years |
18:00 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach_, if I use pop out it is normal |
18:05 |
Jordach_ |
Vohveli, my question is, how _DID_ you gain moderator status for minetest forums |
18:06 |
Vohveli |
Jordach_: he gave it to me |
18:07 |
Vohveli |
it was some time ago, I haven't been very active recently |
18:08 |
rubenwardy |
An hour and a bit until Merlin! |
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18:10 |
cosarara97 |
no! |
18:10 |
cosarara97 |
I broke my bones |
18:10 |
cosarara97 |
lol |
18:10 |
rubenwardy |
You know what would be cool, a craft database. You can move items into a craft box, and it tells you what mods use that recipe, and what for |
18:11 |
PilzAdam |
you mean like craft guide? |
18:12 |
rubenwardy |
but for all mods and on the internet, so it will minimise craft conflicts with new mod |
18:12 |
rubenwardy |
s |
18:13 |
rubenwardy |
anyway, craft guide is object --> recipe, this one will be recipe --> object |
18:14 |
Jordach_ |
rubenwardy, doctor who is BETTER THAN merlin |
18:15 |
NakedFury |
doctor who is better than everything |
18:15 |
Jordach_ |
+8 |
18:15 |
rubenwardy |
not the latest series, but the one before that was good |
18:16 |
NakedFury |
yeah he was special |
18:16 |
NakedFury |
im expecting something expectacular with the new companion chick |
18:17 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, hey |
18:17 |
NakedFury |
hey |
18:18 |
rubenwardy |
Was the cracks the episode before the lasted one, or was it before that? |
18:19 |
NakedFury |
can you reword that sentence? |
18:20 |
NakedFury |
last episode this half of the season was the good bye of the Ponds |
18:20 |
rubenwardy |
When was the series with the cracks and the explosion of the tardis? |
18:21 |
NakedFury |
hmm the cracks... |
18:21 |
rubenwardy |
was it the set before the one we just had, or was it before that |
18:22 |
NakedFury |
before |
18:22 |
NakedFury |
http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/cracks-in-time-4339.htm |
18:24 |
rubenwardy |
time goes fast... |
18:24 |
NakedFury |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_arcs_in_Doctor_Who |
18:24 |
NakedFury |
yes dammit |
18:24 |
NakedFury |
no time to enjoy it |
18:25 |
Jordach_ |
bbl, taking girlfriend home |
18:28 |
rubenwardy |
The actor of Amy Pond was in the Fires of Pompeii Episode |
18:29 |
NakedFury |
I like her |
18:30 |
NakedFury |
the new companion is supposed to be the girl that erased the Doctor from history in Asylum of the Daleks |
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rubenwardy |
i heard |
18:31 |
NakedFury |
I guess its gonna be some kind of meet her in the past then tag along then when they part she dies |
18:31 |
NakedFury |
that sucks |
18:31 |
rubenwardy |
but does the doctor's wife move in |
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18:32 |
NakedFury |
maybe. he knows she will die soon-ish |
18:32 |
rubenwardy |
same with the doctor's wife, first seen in episode where she dies |
18:32 |
NakedFury |
yeah that was sad once you know it |
18:32 |
NakedFury |
ohh shit someone who is great friends with the doctor then BOOM POW! she is fried |
18:33 |
rubenwardy |
i reckon that happens to her in the next 5-10 years of her life. |
18:33 |
NakedFury |
yeah, she really knows how to keep that figure |
18:34 |
NakedFury |
would be interesting to see if by the end a baby is born out of that |
18:34 |
NakedFury |
too hapy an ending |
18:35 |
rubenwardy |
like in that episode where the Doctor is cloned. The Doctor thought her "daughter" died, but she ran off in a space ship somewhere. Never seen again |
18:35 |
NakedFury |
yes |
18:35 |
NakedFury |
that was also cool |
18:36 |
rubenwardy |
i wonder if the doctors "daughter" will turn up... |
18:36 |
NakedFury |
I would not hate that. would be totally not against it. a sort of family entourage time |
18:36 |
rubenwardy |
because she is a time lord (kind off) |
18:37 |
NakedFury |
she did show a regeneration |
18:37 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
18:37 |
rubenwardy|away |
brb |
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Octupus |
hello |
18:42 |
Octupus |
how do i make a cloud diggable? |
18:42 |
Octupus |
because im making a new mod :) |
18:46 |
rubenwardy |
back |
18:46 |
rubenwardy |
redefine default:cloud |
18:46 |
rubenwardy |
iirc |
18:47 |
Octupus |
ik what to do now |
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TheRedMoodWin |
Hello :) |
18:48 |
rubenwardy |
ie: in the default mod, cloud is defined with the group "immortal", which makes it, err, immortal, indestructable |
18:51 |
Octupus |
http://pastebin.com/A6sMftMv |
18:51 |
Octupus |
some1 review that and tell me if it wud work |
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18:53 |
TheRedMoodWin |
There are }) in the top |
18:53 |
TheRedMoodWin |
is that a pase mistake or? |
18:54 |
Octupus |
paste mistake |
18:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
okey |
18:54 |
Octupus |
will that work? |
18:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
From what I can see yes... |
18:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I have not being doing this for long |
18:55 |
Octupus |
ok thanks |
19:02 |
Octupus |
http://pastebin.com/XtBfUgRD |
19:02 |
Octupus |
^some1 review that for me please |
19:02 |
Octupus |
and see if it is correct |
19:03 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Octupus A tips is to write the code and test it with the game. Ask for reviews if you are completly done or if something doesn't work. ;) |
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Octupus |
im testing in the game now |
19:04 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Good :) |
19:04 |
_2cool4me4_ |
New video going up soon! ^.^ |
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Octupus |
hmm' |
19:07 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Nice! |
19:07 |
TheRedMoodWin |
:D |
19:07 |
Octupus |
hmmm i cant seem to get the mod to work |
19:07 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Just started on a collection of server side autorities. |
19:07 |
Octupus |
well to make them diggable |
19:07 |
TheRedMoodWin |
utilities* |
19:14 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Guess what my video will be of... |
19:14 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Cats |
19:14 |
_2cool4me4_ |
uhh.. no |
19:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
http://gifsound.com/?gif=http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj7e34Tgt11qhy6c9o1_400.gif&sound=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWa-rWSsoZA |
19:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Well mine is :) |
19:15 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It involves Minetest |
19:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
damn |
19:15 |
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19:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I would never have guessed that :) |
19:15 |
_2cool4me4_ |
so continue guessing |
19:16 |
TheRedMoodWin |
What do you think of my video? |
19:16 |
_2cool4me4_ |
uhhhh |
19:18 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It's interesting... I think |
19:22 |
TheRedMoodWin |
5 hours and 44 minutes in |
19:22 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And it still just as beautiful |
19:23 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Neko isn't here... |
19:25 |
_2cool4me4_ |
95% |
19:30 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I hate not being able to upload custom thumbnails... |
19:38 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-NlXo-Mxw |
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TheRedMoodWin |
one function down :) |
19:52 |
TheRedMoodWin |
A basic /list function |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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_2cool4me4_ |
It's too bad Minetest can't generate caves... |
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OldCoder |
JangoFett154, wb |
21:07 |
FreeFull |
_2cool4me4_: What do you mean |
21:07 |
FreeFull |
You mean ravines? |
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21:18 |
mrtux |
There's a problem with minetest for windows |
21:18 |
mrtux |
it consumes way too much memory |
21:18 |
mrtux |
and crashes a lot |
21:19 |
OldCoder |
Do we know about the memory for sure? |
21:19 |
mrtux |
idk |
21:19 |
mrtux |
it makes my computer lag to death |
21:19 |
mrtux |
but when i play minecraft |
21:19 |
mrtux |
it works perfectly fine |
21:19 |
mrtux |
hardly any lag |
21:19 |
OldCoder |
anybody comment? |
21:20 |
mrtux |
0.4.1 was quite stable |
21:20 |
VanessaE |
afternoon all. |
21:20 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Hello |
21:20 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Did anyone see the game Carlsen played today? It was really a power show. |
21:24 |
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21:24 |
mrtux |
hexchat just crashed after minetest crashed |
21:28 |
TheRedMoodWin |
There |
21:28 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Now i have motd |
21:28 |
TheRedMoodWin |
death messages |
21:29 |
TheRedMoodWin |
list |
21:29 |
TheRedMoodWin |
hmm |
21:29 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Now just to add more stuff :D |
21:34 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, what are you doing? Sounds good |
21:34 |
Jordach_ |
VanessaE, hey |
21:34 |
VanessaE |
hi |
21:34 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Jordach_ hi |
21:35 |
TheRedMoodWin |
OldCoder I was looking around on the forums |
21:35 |
OldCoder |
I need to go eat soon. I will cycle the worlds later. Does anybody need anything? I will be AFK for a couple of hours. |
21:35 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, go on |
21:35 |
Jordach |
yay |
21:35 |
OldCoder |
yay? say i pray why yay |
21:35 |
TheRedMoodWin |
OldCoderAnd saw that no one really had any server side utilitys |
21:35 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, I am writing them |
21:35 |
OldCoder |
They are needed |
21:35 |
TheRedMoodWin |
So i decided that I could try |
21:36 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Ohh |
21:36 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I am sure yours will be much better than mine :) |
21:36 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I started today, and I've just gotte naround to having MOTDS And so on |
21:36 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But I am aiming at high configurability |
21:36 |
TheRedMoodWin |
So all the messages are going to be variables in an config file |
21:36 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I though of finding a server owner who was willing to try them out at a later stage |
21:37 |
TheRedMoodWin |
OldCoder https://github.com/TheRedMood/redsand |
21:37 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
21:37 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Just pushed the changes up to github :) |
21:37 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
21:37 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I have never touched lua before |
21:37 |
OldCoder |
I will download and examine |
21:37 |
OldCoder |
Right now |
21:37 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Oh. |
21:37 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Can't you do it on github? |
21:37 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
21:37 |
Jordach |
bloody hell!! two subscribers in 10 mins http://i.imgur.com/DUuze.png |
21:38 |
OldCoder |
I just did |
21:38 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, ok |
21:38 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Well it is not really worth a download, sir/mis. |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
well I know anything I make is always worth a download ;) |
21:39 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, we shall see! |
21:39 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I just found the API really good, so I thought that I could give it a shot. I really love the idea behind minetest. Open source is so tasty :) |
21:39 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, textures...nix |
21:39 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I am using some of hers now |
21:39 |
OldCoder |
Plus dokutest |
21:39 |
TheRedMoodWin |
OldCoder Are there any formatting rules for lua? I would like to know of that if it is |
21:39 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Need to note down that... |
21:40 |
TheRedMoodWin |
VanessaE, I take it that the sufix would be mis then? |
21:40 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, I have my own style. I will post mods in the future and you can review. For now, hold on. I am checking your mod. |
21:40 |
VanessaE |
TheRedMoodWin: in my case, Mrs. actually :-) |
21:40 |
_2cool4me4_ |
so did you guys see my new video? |
21:41 |
TheRedMoodWin |
VanessaE Let me not that down, Mrs. |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
TheRedMoodWin: no formatting rules really no, but it's common to just hit tab to indent and to line up closing braces with the first char of the line that opened one.. |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
(ditto for 'end' on loops, functions, etc) |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
else it's really up to you |
21:42 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://youtu.be/3c-NlXo-Mxw |
21:42 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Okey. Coming from some python I really recent that |
21:42 |
VanessaE |
but if you wanted to you could use one space, or 50, or some obscure mix of spaces and tabs if it suits your fancy :-) |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, we will try your mod temporarily |
21:43 |
TheRedMoodWin |
OldCoder any thing uet? |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
On all the worlds in my nexus |
21:43 |
TheRedMoodWin |
What? |
21:43 |
TheRedMoodWin |
O_O |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
Being installed shortly |
21:43 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Wait a secound...... |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
A few minutes |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
Four updates are coming |
21:43 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
21:43 |
TheRedMoodWin |
What do you mean? |
21:44 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Are you a server owner? |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
hahaha |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
ppf....mmmhhh......>>>BAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAH |
21:44 |
TheRedMoodWin |
O_o |
21:44 |
TheRedMoodWin |
May I ask what is so funny, Mrs? |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
he runs like 20 of them or something :-) |
21:44 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Well that is, wow. |
21:44 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Hosted your self or? |
21:45 |
VanessaE |
(actually 10 or 11 now isn't it?) |
21:45 |
TheRedMoodWin |
In that case wat distro, sir? |
21:45 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I use slackware for my homebox |
21:45 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But the poor distro coulden't compile minetest :( |
21:45 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, I have a Linux distro and 15 MT worlds |
21:45 |
OldCoder |
It will compile |
21:45 |
OldCoder |
Needs nudging |
21:45 |
* TheRedMoodWin |
is tucking the bed for his slackware box. |
21:46 |
VanessaE |
slackware? *shudder* |
21:46 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But |
21:46 |
TheRedMoodWin |
What did you mean by updates? |
21:46 |
* VanessaE |
<- Xubuntu. |
21:46 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, I am busy and will Twitter and announce here too |
21:46 |
OldCoder |
Preparing updates |
21:46 |
OldCoder |
15 minutes |
21:46 |
OldCoder |
I need to check things |
21:46 |
TheRedMoodWin |
o.o |
21:46 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I get nothing of what you are saying right now.. |
21:46 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I am really sorry, sir. |
21:47 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Are you going to update my code or your servers? |
21:47 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, Your code goes into 15 worlds in a few minutes |
21:47 |
OldCoder |
For testing |
21:47 |
OldCoder |
|
21:47 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And also if you are planing to use my mod, I would also be really pleased if you could give me suggestions |
21:47 |
TheRedMoodWin |
O_O |
21:48 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Thank you so much |
21:48 |
OldCoder |
Updates will include VanessaE flowers, PilzAdam farming plus, cornernote Town Text, and TheRedMoodWin new mod |
21:48 |
TheRedMoodWin |
please |
21:48 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Its TheRedMood |
21:48 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Win is because im not on my gentoo box |
21:48 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And the mod name is redsand |
21:49 |
TheRedMoodWin |
If you have any suggestions or requests please tell me. |
21:49 |
VanessaE |
gentoo? -funroll_loops -O23 -Dracing_stripes -Dtype_r_sticker -Dsomeother_damn_thing |
21:49 |
VanessaE |
;) |
21:50 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodW k |
21:50 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, people will review |
21:50 |
Lumpio- |
TheRedMoodWin: ...why not permanently run a client on your gentoes box |
21:51 |
Lumpio- |
Then you won't need alternate nicks |
21:51 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I do |
21:51 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I have a tmux session |
21:51 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Give me a secound |
21:51 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds going down |
21:51 |
Lumpio- |
So why would you have separate nicks |
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21:51 |
TheRedMood |
Hello |
21:51 |
TheRedMood |
Because this is on the slackware box |
21:51 |
TheRedMood |
And that is my home server. |
21:52 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds being backed up |
21:52 |
TheRedMood |
IT keeps logs for me and so on, but having ssh open is sometimes a bad idea |
21:52 |
TheRedMood |
Old code wait |
21:52 |
TheRedMood |
I need to do something with one of the files |
21:52 |
OldCoder |
Go ahead |
21:52 |
OldCoder |
I can update every world quickly |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, your flowers will update with the rest |
21:53 |
VanessaE |
ok |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
I will leave in 15 minutes after update |
21:53 |
VanessaE |
I toned down how much the seaweed grows and under what conditions |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
I request people try Town Test Farming Plus Flowers and Red Sand |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
to test |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
before I go |
21:53 |
envoyxiphos |
What Happend Old? |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
updates |
21:53 |
envoyxiphos |
I was logging everything. |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
Sorry |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
Please forgive me |
21:53 |
OldCoder |
I must go eat |
21:53 |
envoyxiphos |
here I will copy/paste what i have so far to you |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
No need |
21:54 |
envoyxiphos |
? |
21:54 |
envoyxiphos |
y? |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
You were chatting correct? |
21:54 |
envoyxiphos |
yes |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
I have it in the logs if you were |
21:54 |
envoyxiphos |
No |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
I have it all |
21:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Okey |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
21:54 |
envoyxiphos |
I want to show you |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
I want to as well |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
ATM is not good |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
Wrist is not well |
21:54 |
envoyxiphos |
watch PM. |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
And I must eat |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
21:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
There |
21:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Now pull again |
21:54 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And it should be fine |
21:54 |
OldCoder |
All set? |
21:55 |
OldCoder |
k |
21:56 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Yes |
21:56 |
TheRedMoodWin |
pul now |
21:56 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Sorry, there was a debugging function in the code |
21:56 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Which I needed to get rid of |
21:56 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMood, suggestion: add a file named depends.txt which contains the line defaualt |
21:56 |
OldCoder |
Excuse me |
21:56 |
OldCoder |
default |
21:56 |
OldCoder |
|
21:56 |
TheRedMoodWin |
yes |
21:58 |
TheRedMoodWin |
okey |
21:58 |
TheRedMoodWin |
pushing now |
21:59 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, done? |
21:59 |
TheRedMoodWin |
no |
22:00 |
TheRedMoodWin |
git is hating on me |
22:00 |
TheRedMoodWin |
give me 2 min |
22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
TheRedMood, why server status command is called with "sand"? |
22:01 |
TheRedMoodWin |
there |
22:01 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Yeah |
22:01 |
TheRedMoodWin |
That is the command that was removed |
22:01 |
RealBadAngel |
seen the code, quite useful |
22:01 |
TheRedMoodWin |
thanks |
22:01 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I will work more on it tommorow |
22:01 |
RealBadAngel |
but was wondering bout meaning of "sand" |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
that isthe comand that is removed |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
the meaning of sand in the name |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
RedSand |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Is my name |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Red |
22:02 |
RealBadAngel |
ah so |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And sand, tiny pieces that fits together |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But no big mountians |
22:02 |
TheRedMoodWin |
OldCoder done now. |
22:02 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
22:03 |
TheRedMoodWin |
What is your twitter? |
22:03 |
OldCoder |
BoldCoder |
22:03 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, i was missing somethin like "list" |
22:03 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
22:04 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Yes? |
22:04 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I really need to go now |
22:05 |
TheRedMoodWin |
okey I am going now |
22:05 |
TheRedMoodWin |
ill give you 10 more min OldCoder |
22:05 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
22:05 |
TheRedMoodWin |
okey |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
Folks his mod is crashing and I think it's this line |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
dofile("../mods/minetest/redsand/conf.lua") |
22:06 |
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22:06 |
OldCoder |
I suspect it needs to be |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
dofile("conf.lua") |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
Is this correct? |
22:06 |
TheRedMoodWin |
no |
22:06 |
TheRedMoodWin |
wait |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
Patching on this end |
22:06 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Are you running it standalone? |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
envoyxiphos, sorry about the wait |
22:06 |
TheRedMoodWin |
yeah |
22:06 |
OldCoder |
No; on the server side |
22:06 |
TheRedMoodWin |
then it needs to be patched |
22:06 |
VanessaE |
dofile(minetest.get_modpath("modname").."/filename.lua") |
22:07 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I will patch that right now |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Not just the line I said hen? |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
k |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
Waiting |
22:07 |
VanessaE |
where modname is the name of the mod that's running the dofile command, e.g. homedecor. |
22:07 |
envoyxiphos |
I still cannot acces eaither servers. OldCoder |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
envoyxiphos, see above |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
I added his mod |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
Must patch it or remove it now |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
He is patching |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
Will be just a minute hopefully |
22:07 |
OldCoder |
envoyxiphos, For major changes a debug server will be used |
22:08 |
OldCoder |
This is a minor one |
22:08 |
VanessaE |
(I use lines of that form to pull other .lua files into init.lua at runtime, so I can keep my mods' code somewhat organized) |
22:08 |
envoyxiphos |
VanessaE's? |
22:08 |
OldCoder |
envoyxiphos, No TheRedMood |
22:08 |
envoyxiphos |
What is his mod? |
22:08 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Try now |
22:08 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I am so soryr |
22:09 |
TheRedMoodWin |
as i said it is only 3 hours old. |
22:09 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
22:09 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And thanks alot, Mrs! |
22:09 |
TheRedMoodWin |
a lot* |
22:09 |
VanessaE |
you're welcome :-) |
22:09 |
envoyxiphos |
What does his mod do? |
22:09 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel will show you |
22:09 |
TheRedMoodWin |
It is going to be a collection of server utilites |
22:09 |
OldCoder |
Rebuilding worlds |
22:10 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And it also seems it is going to be tailored for OldCoder :) |
22:10 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
Not for me |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
For standard games |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
Worlds restarted |
22:10 |
envoyxiphos |
brb Gonna eat lunch be back in 15 |
22:10 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Yes, |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
envoyxiphos, They should be up now |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
Will somebody connect to a world and test his mod? |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
|
22:10 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But you are going to be one of the main income of requests |
22:10 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I can try |
22:10 |
TheRedMoodWin |
give me the ip |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I will wait to update Europe until tonight |
22:10 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMood, one moment |
22:11 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/ |
22:11 |
OldCoder |
Choose one of those worlds |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
joining now |
22:12 |
OldCoder |
Which world? |
22:12 |
envoyxiphos |
-!- Server Welcome envoyxiphos. This Is The Default MOTD???? |
22:12 |
OldCoder |
No |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Yes |
22:12 |
envoyxiphos |
what does that mean? |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
That is my mod |
22:12 |
OldCoder |
We will fix it |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
oldCoder |
22:12 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
to change it go into conf.lua |
22:12 |
OldCoder |
|
22:12 |
OldCoder |
Which world? |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
All of them |
22:12 |
OldCoder |
Why put it there instead of Conf file? |
22:12 |
TheRedMoodWin |
The motd message is stored there |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
conf.lua is the configuration file |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
BUT I NEED TO GO NOW! |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
:D |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, I prefer to have MOD in the server conf file |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
Good bye |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
we can do that |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
envoyxiphos, I will patch out that part later |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But please i need to sleep now |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, good night |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
you can send me a mail of all the things you want |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
to |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
Somebody tell me... Where is his MOTD appearing? |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, good night |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
teodor_spaerenlavabit.com |
22:13 |
TheRedMoodWin |
When they join |
22:13 |
OldCoder |
C U |
22:14 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Oldcoder |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
22:14 |
TheRedMoodWin |
In the redsand folder |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
TheRedMoodWin, I need to patch that out |
22:14 |
TheRedMoodWin |
There is a file named conf.lua |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
Each world |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
Has a different MOTD potentially |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
So one mod |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
Cannot set them all |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
But good night |
22:14 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I know x3 |
22:14 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I was trying to tell you have to stop it |
22:14 |
OldCoder |
Go on |
22:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Go into redsand.lua |
22:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
and under it there is an event section |
22:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
you should see it |
22:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
just remove the minetest.register_playerjoin |
22:15 |
TheRedMoodWin |
part. |
22:16 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
22:16 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I will add options to disable them in the config file tommorow |
22:16 |
OldCoder |
I will address this later |
22:16 |
TheRedMoodWin |
See ya |
22:16 |
OldCoder |
k |
22:16 |
OldCoder |
See you |
22:16 |
OldCoder |
ty |
22:17 |
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22:17 |
OldCoder |
LAD, wb |
22:18 |
LAD |
hia |
22:20 |
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22:22 |
Jordach |
aww yeah |
22:23 |
Jordach |
classic ps one games |
22:26 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I am going now |
22:27 |
TheRedMoodWin |
I just want to say thank you to OldCoder |
22:27 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And Mrs. |
22:27 |
TheRedMoodWin |
And I also want to say that I will add a lot more options to the conf file tommorow |
22:27 |
TheRedMoodWin |
So that the MOTD problem is gone |
22:27 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Thats it for me today |
22:27 |
TheRedMoodWin |
For real this time :) |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
He |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
Hello |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
and goodbye |
22:28 |
TheRedMoodWin |
But does that sound okey? |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
Sure! |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
22:28 |
TheRedMoodWin |
Thanks :) |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
Sleep tight |
22:28 |
TheRedMoodWin |
you to. |
22:28 |
OldCoder |
Etc. |
22:29 |
anunakki |
hey guys |
22:29 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, howdyd |
22:29 |
OldCoder |
*howdy |
22:29 |
anunakki |
anyone got a good reference for crafting/smelting etc.. because i mean the basics are simple, and a little beyond those, but creating stuff like, telepads, building chests, water supply etc. |
22:31 |
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22:45 |
RealBadAngel |
anunakki: cornernotes wiki pages |
22:45 |
anunakki |
ty |
22:45 |
RealBadAngel |
hes makin wikis for different mods |
22:46 |
anunakki |
also |
22:46 |
anunakki |
how long does it usuallyt ake a building chest to finish? |
22:46 |
RealBadAngel |
https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest |
22:46 |
RealBadAngel |
depends on the size of the build |
22:47 |
anunakki |
ah, ok, because i've set up two and they're taking forever |
22:47 |
anunakki |
and barely anything has been done |
22:47 |
anunakki |
lol |
22:47 |
RealBadAngel |
code is not yet perfect |
22:47 |
anunakki |
yea |
22:47 |
RealBadAngel |
hes workin on the issues |
22:48 |
RealBadAngel |
ive found temporary solution if the worker stops |
22:48 |
RealBadAngel |
go away, so the blocks with worker can unload |
22:48 |
RealBadAngel |
go back, everythin should back to normal |
22:49 |
RealBadAngel |
you can also try punching the chest before leavin to set it to inactive |
22:49 |
RealBadAngel |
and when go back to active |
22:50 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, givin apples to worker makes him move faster |
22:54 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, anybody: No problems so far with latest updates? All right. I'm leaving for a couple of hours shortly. |
22:54 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I'll update Europe tonight |
22:54 |
OldCoder |
If the U.S. servers continue to work |
22:54 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
22:57 |
Jordach |
uh oh |
22:57 |
Jordach |
xchat is missing mscvrt90.dll |
22:57 |
pskosinski |
Try HexChat. :P |
22:58 |
Jordach |
pskosinski, same code base, (probably same compiler) |
22:58 |
Jordach |
so no :) |
23:00 |
pskosinski |
But freeeeee |
23:03 |
OldCoder |
HexChat is good |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
HexChat is XChat reborn |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
http://hexchat.org/ |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
Try it |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
<--- Likes HexChat |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
Joooooooooin Uuuuuuuuuuuus |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
|
23:04 |
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23:16 |
* Jordach |
puts foot down |
23:16 |
* Jordach |
then proceeds to crush a coke can on the side of my head |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
Sounds like fun |
23:17 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14 |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
Downloading for later |
23:18 |
OldCoder |
What is this? |
23:18 |
OldCoder |
Odd |
23:18 |
OldCoder |
|
23:18 |
* OldCoder |
will return later |
23:21 |
Jordach |
NOPE! |
23:21 |
Jordach |
night all |
23:33 |
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23:33 |
Octupus |
Hi |
23:36 |
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23:38 |
NekoGloop |
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jd3ms4IcRxg oppan nightcore style! |
23:39 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Hey |
23:40 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Next time there will be two medals |
23:40 |
Octupus |
Yes |
23:40 |
Octupus |
Next week |
23:40 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
23:41 |
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23:41 |
skully_ |
oldcoder |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
skully_, Hello |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
skully_, I will try to PM |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
skully_, Do you see another window or tab now? |
23:42 |
skully_ |
no |
23:42 |
OldCoder |
Then I will explain here as I am quite tired |
23:42 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
23:42 |
OldCoder |
|
23:42 |
skully_ |
no its working now |
23:42 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
23:42 |
OldCoder |
Type something there |
23:42 |
skully_ |
wait there is |
23:58 |
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23:58 |
VanessaE |
JangoFett154: tom was looking for you on redcrab:30401 earlier |
23:59 |
JangoFett154 |
oh ok any idea what he wants? |
23:59 |
* NekoGloop |
sets out a plate of pizza |
23:59 |
JangoFett154 |
is he still on btw? |
23:59 |
VanessaE |
nope, he just asked when you were last on...and he *just* signed off too\ |
23:59 |
JangoFett154 |
oh ok |