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00:00 Crisco I have a BNC that I usually use, but in my mobile devices I have a backup server in case cron fails to update my dyndns
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00:01 dharc Minecraft was made in Java, because of it it's so slow. Minetest is very fast, you deserve congratulations
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00:19 OldCoder dharc, Yes
00:19 hmmmm 'minetest is fast'
00:19 hmmmm hah
00:20 hmmmm now that it's the weekend, i can finally work on the mapgen more
00:20 hmmmm i think i might have a potential problem though
00:21 OldCoder I thought I /ignored you
00:21 OldCoder Hmm
00:21 NakedFury hmmm do you think it could be possible to make different digging animations or movements depending on if you dig or mine or chop or punch stuff or use a sword?
00:21 hmmmm OldCoder, i really don't give a care in the world if you ignore me or not, your attention isn't some amazing thing that people are worthy of
00:22 hmmmm aren't worthy of*
00:23 hmmmm NakedFury, of course it's possible, but i'm not the person who would add that
00:24 RealBadAngel_ hah, by accident i figured out how to create COOL thing
00:24 RealBadAngel_ technic will be updated in 15 minutes
00:24 hmmmm i think it would be difficult because then there'd need to be a system in place to define custom animations - the swing is hardcoded right now
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00:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, all right
00:27 NakedFury what did you find by accident?
00:32 NakedFury hmmm how goes your hunt for the perfect algorithm or code for mapgen?
00:33 hmmmm it might suck
00:33 hmmmm i'm gonna need to take individual samples for nodes that are on the boundary of a biome in order to smooth transitions
00:34 NakedFury and that might slow it down?
00:34 hmmmm well if you're doing more stuff that you otherwise wouldn't, of course
00:34 hmmmm i'm thinking of a more elegant solution
00:36 hmmmm maybe not
00:36 harrison does anyone here remember SPASIM?
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00:37 NakedFury no. is that a user or program?
00:38 hmmmm alright, i've got an idea - if the transition from one biome to another doesn't end on an integer boundary, which is really a 1/350 chance, the slope is the same as the difference between the last two nodes
00:39 NakedFury how would an integer boundary look like?
00:39 hmmmm probably unnoticable
00:40 NakedFury well go for it if it is elegant and helps you reach your goal
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00:41 VanessaE_ hi all
00:41 NakedFury hi
00:42 NekoGloop Ello
00:42 VanessaE_ hi hi.
00:44 VanessaE there.
00:44 * OldCoder is resting
00:51 VanessaE jeez, irc is falling apart tonight
00:54 OldCoder net split
00:54 OldCoder not as good as
00:54 OldCoder banana split
00:54 VanessaE heh
00:54 OldCoder U.S. MT worlds going down to test Calinou Git Mods
00:54 OldCoder Several of his mods updated
00:54 * VanessaE offers up a chocolate fudge poptart with peanut butter spead on it
00:54 OldCoder Yum
00:55 * NekoGloop has pizza
00:55 * OldCoder consumes; at least in the virtual world
00:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: trade? :)
00:55 NekoGloop We have a whole extra box that noone ate. So sure! :D
00:55 OldCoder Anybody else got mods to update?
00:55 * VanessaE trades a box of poptarts and three mese for the extra pizza ;-)
00:55 OldCoder Has anybody used bobblocks?
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00:56 VanessaE OldCoder: I do
00:56 OldCoder Mika reports problem with those but they work fine in one world
00:56 VanessaE as long as you have mesecons installed it just works
00:56 OldCoder VanessaE, Ah. Mika reports they do not work in Europe.
00:56 OldCoder Good
00:56 OldCoder Europe has mesecons
00:56 VanessaE but it's one of those mods that is best used from creative mode
00:56 OldCoder I will ask him for more info
00:56 OldCoder Go on
00:57 OldCoder U.S. worlds restarted
00:57 VanessaE nothing to go on about :-)
00:57 OldCoder If no problems then Europe will be updated
00:57 OldCoder Then I do not understand; but fine
00:57 VanessaE afaik it has sorta weird recipes
00:57 OldCoder Yes
00:57 VanessaE and uses its own internal dye system
00:57 OldCoder Perhaps he got the recipes wrong
00:57 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1274
00:57 OldCoder R
00:57 NekoGloop VanessaE: Make it use normal-er dyes.
00:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: rabbibob says he will update it to use Unified Dyes at some point
00:58 NekoGloop Riiiiiight
00:58 VanessaE and unlike other mods, this is one that would not need to give back the dye bottles, since it requires glass blocks anyway :)
00:58 NekoGloop And i'll go invent the time machine.
01:00 OldCoder VanessaE, How much do your 64px textures improve things over the default?
01:00 RealBadAngel_ NekoGloop, hi
01:00 NekoGloop Speaking of that, i'm surprised noone has abused teleporters to simulate the TARDIS
01:00 VanessaE afaic, they're a major improvement :-)
01:00 OldCoder VanessaE, the only reason not to use is additional 5MB download?
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01:00 VanessaE but some people hate HDX textures because they're either too high-rez (even at 64px) or because they're too real.
01:01 OldCoder VanessaE, I do not understand
01:01 OldCoder Explain
01:01 VanessaE OldCoder: better that the player should download and install it themselves.
01:01 OldCoder "too high res"
01:01 OldCoder Why?
01:01 OldCoder Explain
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01:01 * OldCoder is interested
01:01 VanessaE yeah - people seem to be stuck on 16px because of the perceived theme of the game
01:01 RealBadAngel_ because folks have different tastes
01:01 OldCoder What if I make 32px versions?
01:01 VanessaE or because some peoples' hardware sucks :-)
01:01 OldCoder What if I make 32px versions?
01:01 NekoGloop VanessaE: Most people just like default textures ;)
01:01 VanessaE 32px won't be good enough - a few textures will just turn to noise at that size
01:02 OldCoder Hmm
01:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: well they're wrong. :-)
01:02 OldCoder I wish to try the 64px
01:02 NekoGloop NOPE
01:02 VanessaE OldCoder: give it a shot then :-)
01:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, bad idea?
01:02 * NekoGloop smacks vanessae
01:02 RealBadAngel_ NekoGloop, ive made that "bucket" its called water and lava can
01:02 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583
01:02 NekoGloop How DARE you say i'm wrong
01:02 NekoGloop RealBadAngel_: Call it the large bucket
01:02 * VanessaE blocks neko's smack and responds with a good, sharp poke :-)
01:02 RealBadAngel_ no way ;)
01:03 RealBadAngel_ test it first
01:03 NakedFury higher resolution textures need more size. also the art style comes into play. some people dont like realistic textures for this type of game and others do
01:03 OldCoder Hmm
01:03 NekoGloop Owie
01:03 OldCoder What is the balance?
01:03 RealBadAngel_ anyone knows why and how images displayed in formspec are scaled?
01:03 OldCoder How many like one vs. the other?
01:03 NekoGloop RealBadAngel_: Randomly and stupidly.
01:04 RealBadAngel_ id like to make menu backgrounds and it doesnt look well
01:04 RealBadAngel_ doest keep the scale
01:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, You mean 64px HDX?
01:05 NakedFury Old Coder in the end its personal tastes. how do I like the game to look for me and how detailed do I like it? that is lets say cartoon style or real style and low detail 16x versus mega details 256 or 512 or beyond.
01:05 OldCoder NakedFury, People can configure either way
01:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, You mean 64px HDX?
01:05 RealBadAngel_ whatever the resolution, images are scaled for some stupid reason
01:05 OldCoder Where was the menu problem?
01:05 NakedFury also im stuck at conneting to server
01:05 OldCoder NakedFury, which server?
01:05 OldCoder I restarted
01:05 NakedFury default 30000
01:05 OldCoder a few minutes ago
01:05 OldCoder to update Calinou
01:05 OldCoder Exit and reenter please
01:06 NakedFury I have been doing that
01:06 OldCoder Oh!
01:06 RealBadAngel_ oldcoder, when you open furnace menu for example
01:06 OldCoder Wait
01:06 OldCoder Sorry
01:06 RealBadAngel_ i wanted to have there background
01:06 NakedFury RealBadAngel by menu you mean the bg.png texture?
01:06 NakedFury ohh that
01:06 OldCoder Worlds started
01:06 NakedFury didnt know you could do backgrounds for those windows
01:06 OldCoder My mistake; excuse me
01:06 NakedFury I have wanted that for a long time
01:06 RealBadAngel_ ive made exact menu sized png and engine scaled that down
01:07 NakedFury what do you call it?
01:07 RealBadAngel_ ill show you the problem
01:08 NekoGloop The problem is likely that you didnt specify the width and height of the image.
01:08 RealBadAngel_ http://realbadangel.pl/menu_problem.png
01:08 NekoGloop (Or that minetest hates you)
01:09 RealBadAngel_ i wanted to make frames around slots
01:09 VanessaE oh my
01:09 NekoGloop Ew win7
01:09 NakedFury holy shit you have so many programs running
01:09 NekoGloop Probably nasa computer
01:09 VanessaE haha
01:09 RealBadAngel_ slot is 47*47 px, vertical space is 17px, horizontal 7px
01:09 NakedFury keep working on that RBA I would love to thave that
01:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: incorrect :-/
01:09 RealBadAngel_ oops, vertical space is 11
01:10 VanessaE a slot is scaled up/down depending on your screen rez
01:10 RealBadAngel_ shit :)
01:10 VanessaE on my screen, they tend to be close to 64px. :-)
01:10 RealBadAngel_ i havent thought bout it
01:10 VanessaE you suck :)
01:10 RealBadAngel_ yeah i do
01:11 VanessaE I'm just kidding :-)
01:11 RealBadAngel_ so how the image is scaled?
01:11 RealBadAngel_ i think its time to dig the code
01:12 NekoGloop On my screen, they're closer to 48x
01:12 VanessaE no clue
01:12 RealBadAngel_ any1 knows which source file holds the formspec code?
01:12 OldCoder could grep it
01:13 VanessaE nope, sorry
01:13 RealBadAngel_ NekoGloop, btw, on that screen you can see cans
01:13 NekoGloop Btw, i had an idea while, ironically, playing minecraft.
01:13 VanessaE I know exactly squat about the C code :-)
01:13 NekoGloop Aether-like freezers.
01:13 NakedFury RBA maybe the guiFormSpecMenu.h or .cpp
01:15 NakedFury its the cpp one I think
01:15 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: what you could probably do is keep a fake item in each slot, drawn to look like the image you wanted
01:15 VanessaE and just have your code delete and replace it, but how to stop the user from taking it, I dunno :-)
01:15 NekoGloop Change the inventory image of the hand?
01:16 VanessaE that's a thought!
01:16 VanessaE is that ...possible?
01:16 NakedFury https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L182
01:17 NakedFury I think it is in that part RealBadAngel_
01:17 NekoGloop Yes vanessae
01:18 RealBadAngel_ https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L267
01:18 RealBadAngel_ yeah
01:19 OldCoder I'd really like to try the 64px textures and see how they work
01:19 VanessaE give them a shot then
01:19 OldCoder working
01:19 VanessaE do the same thing you did with the minetoon player image
01:19 VanessaE afaik that'll propagate to all clients who aren't using a custom texture pack
01:19 VanessaE (so I won't see any change since I use the 512px ones anyway)
01:20 RealBadAngel_ hmmm i think i can calculate geometry of base image to fit the slots
01:21 OldCoder NakedFury, source for the additional inconvenience
01:21 OldCoder But worlds are cycling now
01:21 NekoGloop hmmm i think i smell potions brewing and hear black magic being uttered.
01:21 VanessaE haha
01:22 OldCoder Ohmmmm
01:22 OldCoder cycled
01:22 OldCoder Going to look at magic textures now
01:22 RealBadAngel_ padding = v2s32(screensize.Y/40, screensize.Y/40);
01:22 RealBadAngel_ spacing = v2s32(screensize.Y/12, screensize.Y/13);
01:22 RealBadAngel_ imgsize = v2s32(screensize.Y/15, screensize.Y/15);
01:22 NakedFury RBA I thought you were gonna tweak in the source code to add background images for those windows
01:22 RealBadAngel_ what the ... is v2s32
01:23 RealBadAngel_ and he called my code lookin stupid?
01:23 VanessaE you should talk to jordan4ibanez or sfan5 or mijyn, one of those guys did that for blockplanet
01:23 OldCoder Hmm
01:23 OldCoder I see pitch black
01:23 RealBadAngel_ who calls functions v2s32
01:23 NakedFury I dont know why c55 didnt use a better naming system
01:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel_: Celeron does, ofc.
01:24 RealBadAngel_ why not bg4232-j32_u1
01:24 NakedFury isnt that lementary coding rules? every tutorial always tells you to use easy names
01:25 RealBadAngel_ it is elementary
01:25 NekoGloop And we are not amused.
01:25 OldCoder VanessaE, I seem to be getting pitch black
01:25 VanessaE strange
01:25 RealBadAngel_ even the author when readin own code after a few yrs woldnt know whats such function
01:25 NakedFury by the way Elementary is the name of a New York based female watson based american made new Sherlock Holmes tv series
01:26 NekoGloop Yes.
01:26 VanessaE OldCoder: you sure your hardware can handle those textures?  Did you disable the texture atlas?
01:26 NekoGloop Anyone who watches bbc america would know, it's every other commerial it seems like.
01:27 NekoGloop s/bbc america/<insert that goddamn channel noone can remember>
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01:27 VanessaE neko: UNC*TV here :-)
01:27 VanessaE (they pipe BBC through from time to time)
01:27 NekoGloop A&E i wanna say.
01:28 VanessaE TLC is a common conduit for PBS and BBC
01:28 NekoGloop Wasnt bbc america, though they have their own new thingy.
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01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, Not sure. Is there a GUI option for texture atlas? Or just a config file change?
01:28 OldCoder Octupus, hello
01:28 VanessaE OldCoder: config file
01:28 VanessaE enable_texture_atlas = false
01:28 OldCoder World 30001 works for me. Not 30000. What is the config change again?
01:28 VanessaE in minetest.conf
01:28 OldCoder k
01:28 Octupus Hola
01:28 VanessaE on the *client*
01:28 OldCoder Cleared cache first
01:28 VanessaE hi Octupus
01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, yes
01:29 OldCoder VanessaE, I'm going to build clients without that feature
01:29 RealBadAngel_ well, v2s32 is not the function name ;) its a variable type
01:29 Octupus OldCoder: I got a swimming competition tomorrow
01:29 VanessaE I should do the same to my builds
01:29 OldCoder Octupus, will you win?
01:29 Octupus Yes
01:29 OldCoder Good
01:29 Octupus :D
01:29 OldCoder Knock 'em dead
01:30 OldCoder You will be the fastest fish in the sea
01:30 OldCoder Nobody will catch you!
01:30 NekoGloop Break a leg
01:30 NekoGloop All that good stuff.
01:30 Octupus :D
01:30 Octupus Thanks
01:34 OldCoder VanessaE, I get pitch black in world 30000 even with texture atlas off and removing cache; if no other tweaks I'd better revert the textures
01:34 VanessaE wait.
01:34 OldCoder Oh?
01:34 VanessaE lemme go to 30000 and see what I get.
01:34 NekoGloop Try activating fly mode
01:34 OldCoder 30001 works though
01:34 OldCoder NekoGloop, ty
01:34 NekoGloop Sounds like your inside a node to me ^^
01:34 VanessaE oh yes, are you sure you're not buried?
01:34 OldCoder I hear birds
01:34 OldCoder but wait
01:35 NekoGloop VanessaE: My thoughts exactly.
01:35 VanessaE oh wait, you do know it takes for-fucking-ever for the textures to render, right?
01:35 OldCoder yes
01:35 OldCoder 30001 works
01:35 VanessaE wait a sec here, 30000 didn't send me any textures
01:35 NekoGloop OldCoder: Is your client set to im_blind=true? ;)
01:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, I was buried
01:35 OldCoder it is working
01:36 NekoGloop xD
01:36 OldCoder Looking around
01:36 OldCoder ty
01:36 VanessaE OldCoder: from where I stand, you look like you're buried
01:36 VanessaE there you are
01:36 OldCoder Not any longer
01:36 OldCoder NakedFury, VanessaE do these textures look good to you?
01:36 VanessaE I don't see them.
01:36 VanessaE I only see the default textures.
01:37 OldCoder Oh?
01:37 OldCoder Because you loaded 512px?
01:37 VanessaE (I loaded my client config that disables my texture pack so I can see what you send me)
01:37 OldCoder So what is happening?
01:37 VanessaE you probably installed them client-side instead of server-side.
01:37 VanessaE I see the little Minetoon kid
01:37 OldCoder Nope
01:37 VanessaE but all default textures.
01:37 OldCoder Hold on
01:38 OldCoder Yours are in textures/all on the server side
01:39 VanessaE but they didn't send
01:39 OldCoder and it works because that is where I put the lava
01:39 OldCoder Yes
01:39 OldCoder Reviewing further
01:39 OldCoder 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 games users 1626 Oct  1 18:14 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all/cotton_violet.jpg
01:39 OldCoder 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 games users 1577 Oct  1 18:14 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all/cotton_violet_s50.jpg
01:39 OldCoder Are those yours?
01:39 OldCoder 1626 and 1577 bytes?
01:39 VanessaE lemme look
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01:40 OldCoder JangoFett154, wb
01:40 VanessaE that's right, OC.
01:40 JangoFett154 oh i, i went hiking with a friend for most of today
01:40 OldCoder Good
01:40 OldCoder VanessaE, these are in textures/all
01:40 harrison joined #minetest
01:40 OldCoder In the server tree
01:40 OldCoder Interesting
01:40 VanessaE isn't textures/all supposed to be client-side?
01:40 NakedFury RealBadAngel_: did you find the sizes?
01:40 OldCoder VanessaE, Apparently not
01:40 OldCoder But checking
01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, RealBadAngel_ has his lava here
01:41 RealBadAngel_ i think same rules apply as for textures
01:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, go on
01:41 RealBadAngel_ checkin the results now
01:41 VanessaE where can I see it, OldCoder ?
01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, see what? the lava? Ask RealBadAngel_
01:41 VanessaE where on this server I mean
01:42 OldCoder Explain
01:42 VanessaE teleport me to a spot where there is lava on this server so I can see what it looks like
01:42 OldCoder Oh!
01:42 OldCoder But I don't know where
01:42 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, would know
01:42 NakedFury give yourself some
01:42 VanessaE oh. ok give me fly priv and I'll find it
01:42 OldCoder k
01:42 RealBadAngel_ give her lava source simply
01:42 OldCoder World 30000?
01:42 VanessaE aye
01:42 RealBadAngel_ and interact
01:43 OldCoder She doesn't have that yet?
01:43 RealBadAngel_ dunno
01:43 OldCoder VanessaE, spell name
01:43 RealBadAngel_ i told that just to be sure
01:43 VanessaE VanessaEzekowitz
01:43 OldCoder and how is lava source spelled
01:43 OldCoder ?
01:44 VanessaE default:lava_source
01:44 OldCoder Got lava
01:44 VanessaE OldCoder: no.  this is not RBA's lava.
01:44 VanessaE this is the default lava.
01:45 OldCoder k
01:45 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, did you check when I added your lava?
01:45 VanessaE I better check that my end isn't the problem
01:45 RealBadAngel_ not sure
01:45 OldCoder VanessaE, simple solution is to dump textures into a dummy mod
01:45 OldCoder I will make one
01:46 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, can you confirm how to install textures on server side?
01:46 VanessaE ok, nothing in my "lowrez" conf that would stop server textures from being shown
01:46 OldCoder See above
01:46 OldCoder This should be simple
01:46 VanessaE (I use that config when I'm testing stuff)
01:46 OldCoder Is there a standard way to install textures on server side?
01:46 RealBadAngel_ you already done so, with the texture pack before
01:46 VanessaE OldCoder: put them in the same dir as the minetoon guy
01:46 OldCoder He is in a mod
01:47 VanessaE a mod??
01:47 OldCoder Actually
01:47 OldCoder numerous places
01:47 OldCoder Yes
01:47 VanessaE strange
01:47 OldCoder So that is the case
01:47 RealBadAngel_ change the textures in the texture pack
01:47 OldCoder No way to install textures?
01:47 VanessaE wait
01:47 OldCoder Where is the texture pack?
01:47 RealBadAngel_ where have u put it before?
01:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, textures/all
01:48 RealBadAngel_ wait i will check if theres TP installed
01:49 OldCoder
01:49 OldCoder So no way to do textures
01:49 OldCoder But I can make a mod
01:49 OldCoder Does init.lua need anything in it?
01:49 OldCoder Can the file be empty?
01:49 VanessaE calinou wrote in a forum post that you have to replace the game's textures entirely, that can't be right.
01:49 VanessaE texture packs don't need an init.lua.
01:49 OldCoder VanessaE, so what is a texture pack?
01:49 OldCoder Where does it go?
01:49 OldCoder On the server side
01:50 VanessaE I don't know
01:50 OldCoder All righ
01:50 OldCoder All right
01:50 VanessaE on the client, it goes anywhere you want and then you just point minetest.conf to it
01:50 OldCoder Reviewing
01:50 OldCoder This is not the client
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01:52 VanessaE try a test server with the textures overwriting the files in minetest_game/mods/default/textures
01:52 OldCoder Wait
01:52 OldCoder That looks right
01:53 VanessaE (a test because if it doesn't work you don't want to have to restore the defaults - deleting the tree is easier ;) )
01:53 OldCoder yes
01:54 VanessaE shall I try now?
01:54 OldCoder Not yet
01:55 OldCoder Wait
01:56 * VanessaE waits
01:56 OldCoder I think they're loading
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01:57 OldCoder Heh
01:57 VanessaE I don't know if *all* of the textures will show - easiest way to tell would be to give yourself a bucket or a door, since those are separate mods from 'default'
01:57 OldCoder VanessaE, a fist?
01:57 OldCoder Join port 30020
01:57 VanessaE yes - my husband's fist in fact.
01:57 JangoFett154 OldCoder why does the server keep shutting down?
01:57 OldCoder JangoFett154, We are adding a new feature
01:57 OldCoder Sorry; this is announced here in IRC
01:58 OldCoder VanessaE, join port 30020
01:58 VanessaE trying...
01:58 JangoFett154 what feature
01:58 OldCoder JangoFett154, Several
01:58 VanessaE it's a secret :)
01:58 OldCoder JangoFett154, I have updated several mods. Plus VanessaE is reviewing something new now.
01:58 JangoFett154 lol com'on you can tell me
01:58 OldCoder 64px textures
01:58 VanessaE OldCoder: ugh you need a faster pipe, I can't even get 35 kB/sec from you
01:58 OldCoder You have probably tried them
01:58 RealBadAngel_ and vanilla ice creams
01:58 OldCoder VanessaE, it is not the pipe
01:59 OldCoder VanessaE, I get very fast speeds
01:59 OldCoder It is the code in the program
01:59 VanessaE I don't think so
01:59 OldCoder I get very fast downloads
01:59 VanessaE not even the worst ever network code is gonna slow down to just 30 kB/sec.
01:59 OldCoder I did 2GB today in minutes
01:59 OldCoder There is some type of fragmentation
01:59 OldCoder JangoFett154, join port 30020
01:59 OldCoder Tell us what you think
02:00 VanessaE old: I'm still sitting at 1%
02:00 OldCoder Something is wrong then
02:00 OldCoder It may be reloading the music
02:00 VanessaE oh yes
02:00 VanessaE and I cleared my cache too
02:00 OldCoder Ah!
02:01 OldCoder The music load
02:01 VanessaE this is painfully slow :(
02:01 OldCoder is very slow
02:01 VanessaE 2%
02:01 OldCoder We should fix that
02:01 VanessaE 3%
02:01 JangoFett154 im at liek 20%
02:01 VanessaE 4%
02:01 OldCoder VanessaE, he did not clear his cache
02:01 OldCoder Wonder why he is reloading
02:01 VanessaE maybe it's the connection between there and here - where is this server located?
02:02 VanessaE 7%
02:02 OldCoder U.S.
02:02 OldCoder I don't recall where
02:02 OldCoder It is the code
02:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I get very fast speeds from here and Europe
02:02 VanessaE 22%
02:03 JangoFett154 42%
02:03 VanessaE still plodding along at less than 20 kB/sec now
02:03 OldCoder It is not the pipe AFAIK
02:03 VanessaE 25%
02:03 OldCoder TCP window?
02:03 VanessaE it's UDP I think
02:04 OldCoder Code needs to be looked at
02:04 * VanessaE grumbles - disconnected.
02:04 OldCoder Anyway we know how to update textures
02:04 OldCoder Are these chests?
02:05 OldCoder They do look realistic
02:05 JangoFett154 85%
02:05 VanessaE dunno, I'm not in yet,.
02:05 OldCoder JangoFett154, Teleport to me once you're in
02:05 JangoFett154 aight
02:05 OldCoder Oh, you're here already
02:06 JangoFett154 i am? its lag
02:06 OldCoder I mean
02:06 OldCoder You are standing on the chests
02:06 VanessaE OldCoder: it's your pipe.  I just sucked down 70 kB/sec from redcrab's server.
02:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I am open to suggestions
02:06 VanessaE I don't know what to suggest
02:07 OldCoder I will look at settings but speed is supposed to be good
02:07 OldCoder I can switch VPS
02:07 OldCoder Right now just get in and judge the textures
02:08 OldCoder JangoFett154, what do you think?
02:08 OldCoder I see you're active
02:08 VanessaE 22% (after disconnect/reconnect)
02:08 VanessaE 26%
02:08 OldCoder I'll look at other VPS
02:08 VanessaE they may be limiting your outgoing bandwidth
02:08 NekoGloop joined #minetest
02:08 OldCoder No
02:09 OldCoder VanessaE, I downloaded 2GB today in minutes
02:09 VanessaE hrm
02:09 OldCoder VanessaE, I think your textures are good
02:10 VanessaE 45%..
02:10 OldCoder I am googling about the speed
02:10 OldCoder JangoFett154 says the textures seem odd
02:10 OldCoder He is so used to the others
02:10 VanessaE heh
02:12 NakedFury OldCoder something weird is going on
02:12 OldCoder NakedFury, go on
02:12 VanessaE 65%
02:12 NakedFury the world is re generating new ores and blocks for me
02:12 OldCoder NakedFury, I updated Calinou's mods
02:12 NakedFury places that didnt have ore now have them
02:12 NakedFury ohh
02:13 OldCoder Is this related to moreblocks and moreores?
02:13 VanessaE 80%
02:13 NakedFury only ores and in some cases world blocks like huge chunks of desert and sand
02:14 OldCoder So this is a new feature of his NakedFury ?
02:14 NekoGloop Maybe someone is trolling with worldedit?
02:14 OldCoder Hmm
02:14 OldCoder Seems odd
02:14 OldCoder If this just started
02:14 OldCoder Probably due to the update to his git versions
02:14 VanessaE OldCoder: wtf?
02:14 OldCoder ?
02:14 VanessaE some of these are mine, some are not
02:14 VanessaE and I can't move
02:15 OldCoder Wait
02:15 VanessaE looks like the server just went down
02:15 NakedFury my areas got a fresh and new coating of sand
02:15 OldCoder No
02:15 OldCoder Hold on
02:15 OldCoder VanessaE, spell name again
02:15 VanessaE VanessaEzekowitz
02:15 OldCoder Oh
02:15 OldCoder It did go down
02:15 OldCoder hold on
02:15 OldCoder Segmentation fault
02:15 OldCoder Wait
02:16 OldCoder One more try
02:17 OldCoder I made your textures the default
02:17 OldCoder But overwrote them
02:17 OldCoder with those from the other mods
02:17 VanessaE nope, now I see the default textures again.
02:17 OldCoder ??
02:17 OldCoder That is probably because
02:18 * OldCoder sighs
02:18 OldCoder Hold on
02:18 OldCoder Only one way to do this
02:18 VanessaE it's because celeron55 is an idiot sometimes
02:18 VanessaE :-)
02:18 OldCoder Final experiment coming
02:18 OldCoder I can't do this manually
02:18 OldCoder Need to use my scripts
02:18 OldCoder Wait
02:18 VanessaE he makes bad decisions from time to time like we all do, but then digs in his heels when someone calls him out on it
02:18 OldCoder One more try
02:18 * OldCoder shrugs
02:18 OldCoder JangoFett154, we will stop messing with the servers soon
02:19 JangoFett154 ok
02:21 VanessaE OldCoder: say when.
02:21 OldCoder Soon
02:21 OldCoder Final test
02:21 OldCoder For now coming
02:22 OldCoder Servers going down; sorry
02:23 JangoFett154 hey OldCoder since you know how to make servers, do you think you could maybe make a server and give it to me and install what mods i want? just a question, i dont want one right now
02:23 OldCoder VanessaE, all the worlds are changed temporarily
02:23 OldCoder JangoFett154, Yes
02:23 JangoFett154 cool ill keep that in mind if i ever want one
02:23 OldCoder JangoFett154, If you mean host one we'll talk about it. Do you have a VPS?
02:23 OldCoder VanessaE, JangoFett154 join any world
02:24 OldCoder This is the final test for now
02:25 VanessaE OldCoder: 30006 shows a mixture of my textures and others I don't recognize
02:25 OldCoder Yes
02:25 OldCoder There is no clean way
02:25 OldCoder To do this on the server side
02:25 JangoFett154 srry my computer is kinda slow
02:25 OldCoder JangoFett154, you just joined me
02:25 OldCoder Do you see any difference?
02:25 VanessaE looks like my leaves, torches, dirt with grass side texture, not sure whose grass texture it is
02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, here's the thing
02:26 OldCoder I need a server side way to update mods
02:26 VanessaE RBA's lava is here
02:26 OldCoder Hmm
02:26 JangoFett154 OldCoder im not on yet there is laaaaag
02:26 OldCoder JangoFett154, k
02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, is it an improvement?
02:27 OldCoder I don't see a change in 30001
02:27 VanessaE OldCoder: not really, no..
02:27 VanessaE to be honest I don't really like the mixture
02:27 OldCoder Sorry for the time used folks
02:27 OldCoder O.K. I am putting the worlds back
02:27 VanessaE ok.
02:27 OldCoder And will not mess with them again tonight
02:27 OldCoder Except to back up before bed
02:27 OldCoder It was worth a try
02:27 VanessaE leave it to the player to download and install a texture pack if they want to :-)
02:28 OldCoder I want good textures!
02:28 JangoFett154 i think  regular textures look good
02:28 OldCoder All right
02:28 OldCoder Wait
02:28 RealBadAngel_ as good as shit ;)
02:28 JangoFett154 but its your opinion
02:28 VanessaE brb
02:28 OldCoder We will figure it out
02:28 OldCoder But for now
02:29 OldCoder People can play
02:29 OldCoder One moment
02:29 RealBadAngel_ i simply see no point in c-64 like textures nowadays
02:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I think I agree
02:29 JangoFett154 c-64?
02:29 RealBadAngel_ if i wanna see pixels i have c-64 in my closet
02:30 RealBadAngel_ Commodore c-64
02:30 OldCoder JangoFett154, old microcompuer
02:30 OldCoder *uter
02:30 JangoFett154 oh
02:30 RealBadAngel_ 20 yrs old 8-bit computer
02:30 JangoFett154 haha
02:30 OldCoder JangoFett154, worlds back
02:30 OldCoder Several mods were updated
02:30 OldCoder But textures are back to normal
02:30 RealBadAngel_ image scaling in engine is fucked up
02:31 JangoFett154 have ya figured out throwing yet OldCoder?
02:31 RealBadAngel_ it scales them by factor of only slot size
02:31 RealBadAngel_ some1 forgotten to include spacings
02:31 OldCoder JangoFett154, I can't spend time on mod coding ATM; have probably spent too much time on servers per se. Sorry. But I am interested and will get in deeper in the future.
02:31 RealBadAngel_ so no matter what you do result is fucked up
02:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, well; one step at a time
02:32 OldCoder Key is to make sure things work at each step
02:32 JangoFett154 ok OldCoder its just a mod, doesnt have to be in
02:32 OldCoder JangoFett154, servers won't be interrupted again unless problems occur; for four hours
02:32 OldCoder Then backups
02:32 RealBadAngel_ to have proprely displayed menu backgrounds patch to the engine is needed
02:32 VanessaE someone mentioned a C64? :-)
02:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, We can modify the servers
02:32 VanessaE btw it's over 30 years old now :-)
02:32 RealBadAngel_ hehe
02:33 OldCoder VanessaE, so here's the thing
02:33 OldCoder There is a default textures folder
02:33 RealBadAngel_ but looks like its graphics style is still popular ;)
02:33 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: btw you do know I made a C64 texture pack for MT right? :-)
02:33 OldCoder We can unpack your textures over that
02:33 RealBadAngel_ yeah i do
02:33 OldCoder But then we need to allow mods to overwrite those
02:33 OldCoder Do you follow?
02:34 RealBadAngel_ im playin with my 128x pack
02:34 OldCoder VanessaE, what I may do is replace some textures one at a time with yours to obtain a working mix
02:34 VanessaE ok
02:34 OldCoder For now...
02:34 OldCoder have fun
02:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, let me know about the next Technic
02:34 VanessaE but personally, I think it's best to stick to the default textures and let the user download a texture pack instead.
02:34 RealBadAngel_ for the servers i think doku pack is good option
02:34 OldCoder VanessaE, But that misses a point
02:34 RealBadAngel_ looks ok, and not too big
02:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, do they conflict? If not then I will include them again on next restart
02:35 OldCoder VanessaE, People can *still* do what you say
02:35 JangoFett154 omg why does server keep shutting down
02:35 OldCoder even if I change the default textures
02:35 OldCoder JangoFett154, It does not
02:35 OldCoder We should be done
02:35 RealBadAngel_ on europe there was doku TP installed before
02:35 OldCoder Yes
02:35 JangoFett154 it just did
02:35 OldCoder Checking log
02:35 RealBadAngel_ you have removed it, why?
02:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, In theory it was not installed
02:35 OldCoder textures/all folder supposedly does not work
02:36 RealBadAngel_ in practuce, yes
02:36 RealBadAngel_ it was installed
02:36 OldCoder JangoFett154, wait
02:36 RealBadAngel_ ive played with it
02:36 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I am confused, then
02:36 RealBadAngel_ but one day it was gone
02:36 OldCoder JangoFett154, the server crashed because you dug a cobble
02:36 OldCoder 02:35:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 digs default:cobble at
02:36 OldCoder (-61,173,-9)
02:36 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred:
02:36 OldCoder ServerError: LuaError: Expecting itemstack, itemstring, table or nil
02:36 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
02:36 RealBadAngel_ lol
02:36 OldCoder
02:37 OldCoder Something odd about that node
02:37 RealBadAngel_ what he used to dig it?
02:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I will put doku in but right now
02:37 VanessaE is that the weird node that the server barfed on the other day?
02:37 OldCoder want to avoid problems
02:37 OldCoder Hmm
02:37 OldCoder Wait
02:37 OldCoder 02:30:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 joins game. List of players: Jango
02:37 OldCoder 02:35:04: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 uses dicormod:d_bucket,
02:37 OldCoder pointing at [node under=-59,172,-11 above=-59,173,-11]
02:37 OldCoder dicormod:d_bucket
02:37 OldCoder Thoughts?
02:38 VanessaE dunno
02:38 JangoFett154 i thought it was just a cheap bucket
02:38 RealBadAngel_ dug cobble with a bucker??
02:38 RealBadAngel_ *t
02:38 OldCoder Apparently
02:38 OldCoder Try it again
02:38 OldCoder If it crashes
02:38 RealBadAngel_ so dicormod is fucked up
02:38 OldCoder He found a bug in the code
02:38 JangoFett154 no i dug lava with bucket and dug cobble with admin pick
02:38 OldCoder See the above
02:38 OldCoder Hmm
02:38 OldCoder Then a random crash?
02:38 OldCoder
02:38 OldCoder 02:35:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 digs default:cobble at
02:38 OldCoder (-61,173,-9)
02:38 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred:
02:38 OldCoder ServerError: LuaError: Expecting itemstack, itemstring, table or nil
02:38 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
02:38 OldCoder
02:39 JangoFett154 hold on, it take 2-4 minutes to get on each time it disconnects me
02:39 OldCoder Not much to say
02:39 OldCoder Sorry to hear it
02:39 OldCoder But we won't screw with servers again for now
02:39 NakedFury I dont know what calinou changed but every ore in the game regenerated. I am going crazy with ores from RBAs cave mining area
02:39 JangoFett154 its somthing with the 4.3 version
02:39 VanessaE NakedFury: maybe the map re-generated?
02:39 OldCoder Wait
02:39 OldCoder
02:39 OldCoder DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD 7fd8b0b51740:
02:39 OldCoder #0  int main(int, char**)
02:39 OldCoder (Leftover data: #1  Dedicated server branch)
02:39 OldCoder (Leftover data: #2  virtual void ServerMap::save(ModifiedState))
02:39 OldCoder (Leftover data: #3  virtual void ServerMap::saveBlock(MapBlock*))
02:39 OldCoder 02:35:10: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Using commanded gameid [tuxworld_game]
02:39 OldCoder
02:39 VanessaE ores are supposed to be generated only on map generation
02:39 OldCoder Check out that stack
02:39 OldCoder Should I revert Calinou mods?
02:40 VanessaE OldCoder: disk space problem?
02:40 OldCoder No
02:40 OldCoder Gigabytes left
02:40 OldCoder The regenerating ores issue
02:40 VanessaE quota?
02:40 OldCoder No
02:40 OldCoder This is *my* VPS
02:40 OldCoder No quota
02:40 NakedFury its insane I have now 48 copper lumps, 9 diamonds, 19 iron, 31 gold lumps, 12 mithrils, 15 silver lumps, 2 chromium 2 zinc, 9 tin, 2 arol, 5 talinite, 1 kalite. and there are much more
02:40 OldCoder He crashed again
02:41 JangoFett154 omg stupid dicormod bucket!
02:41 OldCoder I'm reverting Calinou mods
02:41 OldCoder JangoFett154, or was it the bucket?
02:41 VanessaE I wonder what calinou did to make that happen???
02:41 OldCoder
02:41 RealBadAngel_ hold on
02:41 NekoGloop Nothin
02:41 OldCoder JangoFett154, what just happened?
02:41 NekoGloop Your mapgen screwed up
02:41 RealBadAngel_ calinou has nothin to do with it
02:41 * OldCoder will wait for consensus
02:41 OldCoder Consensus?
02:41 NekoGloop Remember redcrab?
02:41 VanessaE so like I said before - the map re-generated.
02:41 RealBadAngel_ im usin my own copy of ore generation
02:41 OldCoder Is dicormod death?
02:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: redcrab's problem was out of disk space.
02:42 VanessaE the map generator went insane when it couldn't write
02:42 RealBadAngel_ so does NekoGloop
02:42 NekoGloop Keep in mind how many servers he runs.
02:42 JangoFett154 dicor mod bucket must have cheap coding (no offence) but it crashes everytime i try to use it
02:42 VanessaE OldCoder: world files not owned by the user running the server?
02:42 OldCoder They are owned
02:42 NekoGloop He's easily out of disk space by now.
02:42 OldCoder I made sure of that
02:42 OldCoder JangoFett154, shall I remove dicormod bucket but keep dicormod?
02:43 OldCoder Or shall I remove dicormod?
02:43 VanessaE OldCoder: neither - this smacks of a problem deeper than some random mod
02:43 OldCoder Oh?
02:43 OldCoder I don't want crashes
02:43 OldCoder I am inclined to revert Calinou and remove dicormod
02:43 JangoFett154 i really dont want to have to go through another set of disconnects, ill just use a regular bucke
02:43 OldCoder Later, then
02:43 VanessaE a mod ain't gonna cause that kind of crash :-)
02:43 OldCoder Oh?
02:44 OldCoder Don't be sure
02:44 OldCoder Nobody depends on dicormod
02:44 OldCoder Later tonight shall I remove it?
02:44 OldCoder VanessaE, he has crashed twice after using it
02:44 JangoFett154 ya
02:45 VanessaE he said he dug cobble with an admin pick though
02:45 RealBadAngel_ JangoFett154, use cans from technic
02:45 JangoFett154 cans?
02:45 OldCoder VanessaE, Yes. But both times he was handling the dicormod bucket
02:45 OldCoder What about NakedFury report?
02:45 JangoFett154 they arent on the technic page
02:45 OldCoder Is the ores issue important?
02:45 VanessaE very
02:45 OldCoder VanessaE, comment then
02:45 VanessaE the ores issue means your map generator is breaking
02:45 OldCoder I had best revert Calinou
02:45 VanessaE no
02:46 OldCoder Explain
02:46 OldCoder This did not happen until now
02:46 VanessaE ores are only generated when the map generator runs
02:46 OldCoder Fine
02:46 OldCoder And?
02:46 RealBadAngel_ JangoFett154, here you have recipes, in mods code https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/cans.lua
02:46 VanessaE and...didn't you notice gloopores did the same thing?
02:46 VanessaE and diamonds?
02:46 OldCoder Yes
02:46 OldCoder What is cause?
02:46 NakedFury it just restarted the process as if the map was new
02:46 OldCoder Yes
02:46 OldCoder A flag of some sort was reset
02:46 NekoGloop Couldnt have been calinou if my thing did it too
02:46 OldCoder But...
02:47 OldCoder It did not happen until now
02:47 NekoGloop Because my mod hasnt been updated in forever. ^^
02:47 OldCoder Only change to that server today
02:47 OldCoder Was Calinou update
02:47 OldCoder Texture changes were not made
02:47 OldCoder Until afterward
02:47 OldCoder Other explanations?
02:47 VanessaE corrupted map files maybe?
02:47 RealBadAngel_ that happened to sdzen's server too
02:47 NakedFury maybe calinou did something in his mod that did that. perhaps dont touch the mod until calinou can look at it
02:47 RealBadAngel_ regeneration of blocks
02:48 NekoGloop People.
02:48 OldCoder NakedFury, I am not going to "touch" the mod but remove it tonight instead
02:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: and on gameboom too
02:48 OldCoder Will just go back to previous
02:48 RealBadAngel_ so the buildings were corrupted even
02:48 OldCoder VanessaE, they know what happened
02:48 OldCoder VanessaE, they hit 4GB limit
02:48 NekoGloop This is caused by the server going down in the process of mapgen
02:48 OldCoder Ah
02:48 VanessaE ah
02:48 OldCoder But...
02:48 OldCoder Servers are signalled
02:48 OldCoder Don't they shut down cleanly?
02:49 NekoGloop Minetest, do something cleanly?
02:49 OldCoder If not; that is a problem!
02:49 OldCoder Hmm
02:49 NekoGloop Are you insane?
02:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, apparently yes
02:49 NekoGloop XD
02:49 OldCoder I believe you may have hit the nail on the head
02:49 NekoGloop You arent the only one ;)
02:49 OldCoder Is there a patch I should try to make
02:49 OldCoder To cause server to wait
02:49 OldCoder Until after mapgen
02:49 OldCoder before shutting down?
02:50 OldCoder That would do it
02:50 VanessaE just send SIGQUIT to the process
02:50 VanessaE the equivalent of ctrl-C
02:50 OldCoder I send SIGTErM
02:50 OldCoder which should do the same thing
02:50 VanessaE that's the cleanest shutdown the server can do afaik
02:50 OldCoder It is already done
02:50 VanessaE no, SIGTERM != SIGQUIT
02:50 OldCoder It handles one worse than the other?
02:50 VanessaE one is like ctrl-backslash, the other is like ctrl-C
02:51 OldCoder TERM is normal
02:51 OldCoder But if it is not done usually
02:51 OldCoder All right
02:51 VanessaE lemme double-check that
02:51 OldCoder Go ahead
02:51 OldCoder You can choose either
02:51 VanessaE Ctrl-C (in older Unixes, DEL) sends an INT signal (SIGINT); by default, this causes the process to terminate.
02:51 VanessaE there you go
02:51 VanessaE SIGINT is what you need.
02:52 VanessaE (ctrl-backslash is -QUIT)
02:52 OldCoder Alright
02:53 VanessaE send a SIGINT to the process, wait 10 seconds, then try a SIGTERM.  Wait another 10 seconds, then SIGKILL the fucker.
02:53 OldCoder Yes
02:53 VanessaE :)
02:53 OldCoder That is all sensible
02:53 OldCoder Editing
02:54 OldCoder What about JangoFett154 problem? Think this or dicormod bug?
02:54 VanessaE I'm not sure about that
02:54 VanessaE maybe get rid of dicormod then
02:54 VanessaE I noticed btw,
02:54 VanessaE on that 30020 test, lots of unknown blocks in the shape of trees - missing farming mod maybe?
02:55 OldCoder Yes
02:55 OldCoder No
02:55 OldCoder Yes
02:55 OldCoder It was a quick world
02:55 VanessaE make up my mind :)
02:55 OldCoder No big deal
02:55 OldCoder Yes and Yes
02:57 NekoGloop I find it interesting how conversations here just randomly die.
02:57 VanessaE yup
02:57 NakedFury they die like the wind. spontaneously
02:57 OldCoder Tides of chat
02:58 OldCoder It is normal
03:00 NekoGloop Like just now
03:01 OldCoder I have been summoned elsewhere
03:01 NakedFury well im coding ideas
03:01 OldCoder Good
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03:06 NekoGloop I had some ideas for gloopblocks.
03:06 NekoGloop Unfortunatly i'm on my ipad and will actually be going to bed soon.
03:06 OldCoder That is find
03:06 OldCoder Can proceed later
03:10 NakedFury well I got my brick oven, called it Brick Kiln. added a not working bucket code for wood and bronze buckets(only bronze can take lava). now I want to work on an Engraving station where you can place Stone or any other block and get an engraved version. I got some stone and desert stone versiions for now
03:10 OldCoder k
03:18 cornernote hi
03:18 VanessaE hey
03:18 OldCoder cornernote, hello
03:18 cornernote OC, RBA said digging townchest kills the server
03:19 cornernote if it happens again, please try to get the debug.txt so i can repair it
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03:20 OldCoder cornernote, All right
03:20 OldCoder Can do that whenever you like
03:20 OldCoder Is it reproducible?
03:20 OldCoder We can do it now if you like
03:36 RealBadAngel_ shall i crash the server now?
03:36 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, ?
03:37 VanessaE lol
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03:40 Kacey hello
03:40 VanessaE hi
03:41 Kacey well since server connection is impossible for me i decided to try my luck at making a mod
03:42 VanessaE modding's pretty easy
03:42 Kacey i was readingthe api page
03:42 VanessaE enough so anyway that I find myself wanting to use Lua syntax when writing BASH scripts :D
03:43 Kacey but what kills me is textures and sounds if needd
03:43 Kacey lol
03:43 VanessaE sounds can be difficult (I don't mess with them myself) but textures are easy once you've done them a few times
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03:43 Kacey lets see...
03:43 Kacey im not on my computer with gimp
03:44 Kacey might download that lateer
03:44 VanessaE definitely
03:44 Kacey still havent figured out gimp
03:44 NakedFury use gimp or paint.net or photoshop
03:45 VanessaE heh.  it does take some time to learn - MSPaint it is not :)
03:45 NakedFury which ever is easier for you
03:45 Kacey ok do u have the site for ms paint
03:45 VanessaE that was a joke
03:45 Kacey ooh
03:45 VanessaE MSpaint is evil. :-)
03:45 VanessaE (as is any product by Microshaft ;) )
03:45 Kacey lol so am i at points
03:46 Kacey microsoft?
03:46 NakedFury http://www.getpaint.net/
03:46 VanessaE yeah, though I don't know who actually wrote that program :-)
03:46 * VanessaE <-- linux zealot
03:47 Kacey lol microsoft is my exxpertise
03:47 NakedFury It started development as an undergraduate college senior design project mentored by Microsoft, and is currently being maintained by some of the alumni that originally worked on it. Originally intended as a free replacement for the Microsoft Paint software that comes with Windows, it has grown into a powerful yet simple image and photo editor tool. It has been compared to other digital photo editing software packages such as Adobe® Photoshop®, Cor
03:47 NakedFury el® Paint Shop Pro®, Microsoft Photo Editor, and The GIMP.
03:47 OldCoder hi
03:47 Kacey hello
03:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I am here
03:48 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, yes
03:48 OldCoder Kacey, what is new?
03:48 RealBadAngel_ ok
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03:48 OldCoder bulletrulz, wb
03:48 bulletrulz hello PEOPLE
03:48 bulletrulz hi OldCoder
03:48 Kacey going to try my luck at modding
03:48 OldCoder Have fun
03:48 bulletrulz i wish i could play minetest online but my damn tethring app wont let me
03:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, wait
03:49 Kacey codingi have down
03:49 RealBadAngel_ server is goin down
03:49 Kacey but i cant do textures
03:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I have a debug.txt file
03:49 RealBadAngel_ make mod, ask for textures in forums
03:50 Kacey might work
03:50 Kacey but i llike beingpretty idependant
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03:51 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, care to comment on what to grep for?
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03:52 Kacey_ hello
03:52 RealBadAngel_ just the lines before server went down
03:52 OldCoder There are 1000s of lines
03:52 OldCoder It continues
03:52 OldCoder Is there something to grep for?
03:52 RealBadAngel_ dunno
03:52 OldCoder k
03:52 OldCoder thx
03:52 OldCoder will review
03:52 OldCoder and pass to cornernote
03:52 OldCoder cornernote, here?
03:52 RealBadAngel_ look wehere it restarted
03:52 OldCoder I can't find that
03:52 RealBadAngel_ and go back
03:53 OldCoder I can't find that
03:53 OldCoder This is a debug file
03:53 OldCoder It restarted
03:53 OldCoder 1000s of lines
03:53 Kacey_ i will be here tomorrow possibly
03:53 RealBadAngel_ look for me digging the chest
03:54 RealBadAngel_ towntest_chest:chest
03:54 RealBadAngel_ and what happened next
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03:56 tobuscus any one up to play some multiplayer
03:57 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/test/121013.zip
03:58 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, pass that on to cornernote ^
03:58 OldCoder cornernote, see link
04:01 RealBadAngel_ Oldcoder, its just log from starting the server
04:01 RealBadAngel_ we need logs *before* restart
04:01 OldCoder No
04:01 OldCoder Grep it
04:01 OldCoder You dig the chest in it
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04:02 RealBadAngel_ will look once again
04:02 tobuscus_ want to play multiplayer
04:03 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I don't see it
04:03 OldCoder Please repeat
04:03 RealBadAngel_ Oldcoder, the log is only 50seconds or so
04:03 OldCoder Yes
04:03 OldCoder Please repeat
04:03 RealBadAngel_ just the start of the server
04:03 OldCoder Please repeat
04:03 RealBadAngel_ repeat what?
04:03 OldCoder Please repeat the procedure I mean
04:04 RealBadAngel_ ah
04:04 RealBadAngel_ ok
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04:04 bulletrulz should i try puppy linux
04:04 OldCoder yes
04:05 bulletrulz how fast is it?
04:05 OldCoder Pretty fast
04:05 OldCoder but
04:05 OldCoder It is a toy Linux
04:05 OldCoder Try Absolute
04:06 bulletrulz ill see
04:06 tobuscus_ can i join
04:06 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, server went down
04:07 OldCoder k
04:07 tobuscus_ ohh
04:07 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, wait
04:07 bulletrulz ok ill try to dl tommorow
04:07 bulletrulz brb
04:07 RealBadAngel_ tobuscus, one server, for testin
04:07 RealBadAngel_ there are others you can join
04:08 tobuscus_ i cant figure out this game
04:08 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/test/121013b.zip
04:08 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, ^
04:08 OldCoder Try that one
04:10 tobuscus oldcoder; how do i join
04:11 OldCoder tobuscus, Hi
04:11 OldCoder tobuscus, what is your OS?
04:11 OldCoder Windows?
04:11 tobuscus mac
04:11 OldCoder Oh
04:11 tobuscus ya
04:11 OldCoder I am afraid that I don't know about the Mac clients. Do you have a virtual machine?
04:11 OldCoder Can you run Windows or Ubuntu in a VM?
04:11 tobuscus idk
04:12 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, ok got it
04:12 OldCoder tobuscus, Try this weekend earlier in the day
04:12 OldCoder tobuscus, I can answer some questions
04:12 tobuscus ok
04:12 OldCoder But not about Mac. Good luck.
04:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, do you know if there is a Mac client?
04:12 OldCoder I was told there was
04:12 tobuscus i will figure out some way
04:12 RealBadAngel_ idk
04:12 OldCoder k
04:13 VanessaE there IS a mac client but it's outdated
04:13 VanessaE there was, a while ago, someone working on a current mac port, but I don't think he got too far with it.
04:14 OldCoder Sorry to hear it
04:14 OldCoder VM is best choice I think
04:14 tobuscus dat sucks
04:14 VanessaE tobuscus: your best bet would be to install a virtual machine program e.g. Virtualbox, Bochs, VMWare, or whatever is common on mad
04:14 OldCoder Sorry
04:14 VanessaE mac.
04:14 OldCoder tobuscus, I will try to make a Mac client
04:14 VanessaE then install a linux or windows system inside the virtual machine and run minetest there
04:14 tobuscus ok
04:14 OldCoder But I will need somebody to make a Mac available
04:14 OldCoder tobuscus, that should work; the VM
04:15 OldCoder I can run the Windows client myself that way
04:15 tobuscus ok
04:15 NakedFury can it be possible to compile a mac version from windows or linux?
04:15 OldCoder Yes
04:15 OldCoder But not easily
04:15 OldCoder They have discontinued
04:15 OldCoder the cross-development kits
04:15 OldCoder Really, a Mac is needed
04:16 NakedFury more player reach
04:16 OldCoder yes
04:18 * OldCoder is resting again for a little while
04:19 OldCoder Zzz
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04:22 DeusFigendi hey, how do I set values of a node in an ABM? I don't get it. I tried... minetest.env:get_node(pos).tiles = { "new_texture" } but that doesn't work :/
04:25 DeusFigendi maybe there's a set_value()-method or something, but I cannot find such
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04:27 anunakki hello
04:27 VanessaE no clue
04:27 VanessaE hi
04:30 bulletrulz ill think ill try preicise puppy cause i need something based on ubuntu but light
04:33 VanessaE bbl
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04:35 OldCoder bulletrulz, there are several like that
04:35 OldCoder Back BTW
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05:05 hmmmm hmm, in pure C++, i can calculate 500,000 points of noise in 21012 microseconds with -O2
05:05 hmmmm so it shouldn't be too shabby if it needs to fall back
05:06 hmmmm celeron was just being dopey.  fallback != slow
05:09 hmmmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsV_MO0SET4
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05:50 * Calinou upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 exactly one year ago
05:52 M13 Ubuntu 11.10 sucks
05:52 Calinou +1
05:52 Calinou lubuntu 12.04 is da win
05:53 Calinou I have it on my desktop and old laptop :p
05:53 M13 :P
05:53 M13 Ubuntu 10.04 :P
05:53 M13 i stiill use it :P
05:54 Calinou terribly outdated, you should not
05:54 M13 can you help me with my network problems OldCoder is tired
05:54 OldCoder M13
05:54 Calinou wifi issues? install drivers, if not available, upgrade
05:54 M13 ok Im using Ubuntu 12.04
05:54 OldCoder Calinou, your mods are all updated to git
05:55 Calinou ok :)
05:55 OldCoder He states that connection is slow now
05:55 M13 its not wifif :P
05:55 OldCoder Evidence suggests it is either modem or network interface
05:55 OldCoder M13, how old is the modem?
05:55 OldCoder And is this a cable modem?
05:55 M13 its 2 years old
05:55 OldCoder That is pretty new
05:55 M13 yes
05:55 M13 its wifi
05:55 M13 um
05:55 M13
05:56 M13 Its phone internet
05:56 M13 Quest
05:56 OldCoder Tethered?
05:56 M13 Century Link
05:56 M13 It is with are phone company
05:56 OldCoder and the PC is fast when it communicates with TV in loop?
05:57 M13 yes
05:57 M13 and with my servers
05:57 OldCoder Wait
05:57 OldCoder Then ISP is possible issue
05:57 OldCoder No?
05:57 M13 ISP?
05:57 Basstard` That's not a star, that's a satellite.
05:57 M13 what is that
05:57 OldCoder The company
05:57 OldCoder The Internet company
05:57 M13 o
05:58 M13 but it works fine for the other computers
05:58 Calinou internet service provider
05:58 OldCoder Same ISP?
05:58 Calinou M13: make sure networking is enabled in network menu
05:58 Calinou right click network icon
05:58 M13 My dowloading speed it the same
05:58 OldCoder He implies it works
05:58 OldCoder But is slow
05:58 M13 but it dont load surtant web pages
05:59 OldCoder Problem is slow; or won't load?
05:59 M13 my cache is cleared
05:59 M13 like google works fine but askubuntu dont
05:59 OldCoder ??
05:59 OldCoder Try a different browser
05:59 OldCoder What happens?
05:59 M13 did
05:59 M13 I intstalled chrome and it does the same
06:00 OldCoder Let's see if I've got this right
06:00 M13 ok
06:00 OldCoder The problem is not speed; it is that some pages don't load?
06:00 M13 yes
06:00 M13 most dont
06:00 OldCoder That is not likely to be modem
06:00 OldCoder Most don't?
06:00 M13 most pages dont load
06:00 OldCoder What happens; exactly?
06:01 M13 it takes like 1 minute to connect to minetest.net
06:01 OldCoder And this started recently?
06:01 M13 yes
06:01 M13 like 4 days ago
06:01 OldCoder Do you have another PC
06:01 OldCoder to try this with?
06:01 M13 yes the server
06:01 OldCoder Anybody's?
06:01 OldCoder And?
06:02 M13 it works fine on the net
06:02 OldCoder Same modem?
06:02 M13 yep
06:02 OldCoder So it is not ISP or modem
06:02 OldCoder Boot a Ubuntu CD
06:02 OldCoder Connect from there
06:02 OldCoder What happens?
06:02 M13 its on the first drop and this cmputer is on the secong drop
06:02 OldCoder By drop do you mean port?
06:02 OldCoder Plug into same port
06:02 OldCoder What happens?
06:02 M13 I booted puppy ad it did the same
06:03 OldCoder That is not what I asked
06:03 OldCoder
06:03 OldCoder Plug server
06:03 OldCoder into same port
06:03 M13 ok
06:03 OldCoder What happens?
06:03 M13 let me try the 3rd port for this computer
06:03 OldCoder If you wish
06:03 OldCoder But
06:03 OldCoder I think you should
06:03 OldCoder plug server into port
06:03 OldCoder That bad PC is using
06:03 OldCoder And report what happens
06:04 M13 hello
06:04 OldCoder ?
06:04 M13 ok
06:05 M13 its acting te same on a different port :-(
06:05 OldCoder Explain
06:05 OldCoder What is acting same
06:05 OldCoder That is not what I asked
06:05 OldCoder
06:05 OldCoder Plug working server
06:05 OldCoder into port
06:06 OldCoder that PC was using
06:06 OldCoder What happens?
06:06 M13 my servers are running :-(
06:06 OldCoder You are not listening
06:06 OldCoder
06:06 OldCoder Try this
06:06 OldCoder Boot Ubuntu CD
06:06 OldCoder on bad PC
06:06 OldCoder Connect to Internet
06:06 OldCoder What happens?
06:07 M13 Im not going to boot a ubuntu cd and wait 5 minutes
06:07 OldCoder Fine
06:07 OldCoder Good night
06:07 OldCoder
06:07 M13 puppy linux does the same
06:07 OldCoder
06:07 OldCoder M13, you requested my help
06:07 M13 the live puppy linux cd
06:07 OldCoder Either take it or don't
06:07 OldCoder
06:07 OldCoder Good night
06:07 M13 ok thnx for tring
06:07 M13 thying*
06:07 M13 trying*
06:08 M13 cyah later
06:18 NakedFury dammit torches need to give more light
06:22 ecube ikr
06:26 NakedFury torches give like 1 block of good light
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06:55 OldCoder Mika_R, hello
06:55 Mika_R hi oldcoder
06:55 Mika_R restarted the Europe server?
06:55 OldCoder Long since
06:55 OldCoder Checking
06:56 OldCoder It restarts automatically
06:56 OldCoder Unless something unusual happens
06:56 Mika_R found out yesterday that it didn't list bobblocks in /mods
06:56 OldCoder Oh?
06:56 OldCoder Checking
06:57 OldCoder I will update fully right now
06:57 Mika_R neither does it now
06:57 OldCoder Wait
06:57 OldCoder It's on a different server than the main one
06:57 OldCoder I need to transfer files over manually
06:58 Mika_R ok
06:58 OldCoder Stopping server
06:59 OldCoder Backing up
07:01 OldCoder Mika_R, restarted
07:01 OldCoder and synced with U.S. worlds
07:02 OldCoder Mika_R, Calinou's mods have been updated to git and there are other changes
07:02 OldCoder Indicate any problems
07:09 OldCoder NakedFury, still here?
07:09 NakedFury yeah
07:09 OldCoder Some quick questions
07:09 OldCoder Not many
07:10 OldCoder You have made dokutest
07:10 OldCoder It is a collection of image files for textures
07:10 OldCoder For example, dye_red.png
07:10 OldCoder which is also set by the mod dye
07:10 OldCoder and...
07:11 OldCoder wool_blue.png
07:11 NakedFury yes
07:11 OldCoder which is also set by wool
07:11 OldCoder So here is the question
07:11 OldCoder is dokutest intended to override all the other mods?
07:11 OldCoder Or to override defaults
07:12 OldCoder Which can then be overridden by other mods?
07:12 OldCoder
07:12 OldCoder We experimented with server side textures tonight
07:12 OldCoder The results were complicated
07:12 OldCoder Therefore comment
07:12 OldCoder
07:12 NakedFury my first goal is to bring all 3 versions at least for the default collection of mods
07:12 OldCoder These are defaults?
07:12 NakedFury well they come with minetest game
07:13 OldCoder They would overwrite minetest_game/mods/default/textures ?
07:13 OldCoder That is where they shouldl go?
07:13 OldCoder *should
07:14 NakedFury you place them there if you want them to be played only when you do minetest_game.
07:14 OldCoder Let me rephrase
07:14 OldCoder If minetest_game is used
07:14 OldCoder Is that where they go?
07:14 NakedFury no
07:14 OldCoder explain
07:14 OldCoder <NakedFury> you place them there if you want them to be played only when you do minetest_game.
07:15 OldCoder Looks like you just confirmed this
07:15 NakedFury minetest folder>textures>all
07:15 OldCoder No
07:15 OldCoder
07:15 OldCoder That is not correct
07:15 OldCoder We are talking
07:15 OldCoder About server side
07:15 NakedFury I mean for the specific game minetest_game yes
07:15 OldCoder On server side
07:15 OldCoder To make textures work
07:15 OldCoder There does not appear to be any way
07:15 OldCoder Except to move them to the folder
07:15 OldCoder minetest_game/mods/default/textures
07:15 OldCoder Is this your understanding>
07:15 OldCoder ?
07:16 NakedFury yes. if you do that then you should make a backup of the originals just in case
07:16 OldCoder No because...
07:16 OldCoder I rebuild everything
07:16 OldCoder automatically
07:16 OldCoder The server trees are entirely transient
07:16 OldCoder So it is fine
07:16 OldCoder Just need to verify...
07:16 OldCoder You are creating replacements for the default textures
07:17 OldCoder And mods may override you
07:17 OldCoder
07:17 OldCoder O.K.
07:19 OldCoder NakedFury, Is October 8 your latest version?
07:19 NakedFury about the textures?
07:19 OldCoder dokutest
07:19 OldCoder yes
07:20 NakedFury I think so. been trying to get technic done and making edits to the other packs
07:20 OldCoder k
07:20 NakedFury found small mistakes that need to be corrected
07:20 OldCoder k
07:20 OldCoder For a nice server side
07:21 OldCoder Do you recommend anything in addition to dokutest?
07:21 NakedFury dont know. I didnt play much minetest and dont know much about the mods
07:21 OldCoder
07:21 OldCoder I am referring to
07:21 OldCoder your textures
07:21 OldCoder
07:22 NakedFury ohh
07:22 NakedFury well no. I havent done anything extra so what I posted is all I have done at the time
07:23 OldCoder You mean dokutest?
07:23 NakedFury yes
07:23 OldCoder k
07:31 Mika_R oldcoder, Stairs+ updated successfully, as did bobblocks
07:31 OldCoder All right
07:31 anunakki hmm
07:31 OldCoder anunakki, hello
07:32 anunakki hi
07:32 anunakki servers down again?
07:32 OldCoder No
07:32 OldCoder Oh!
07:32 OldCoder Main ones
07:32 OldCoder Up in a minute
07:32 OldCoder Nobody was using
07:32 anunakki ah, ok
07:32 OldCoder I am updating
07:32 OldCoder To make nice
07:32 OldCoder Wait briefly
07:38 OldCoder anunakki, try now
07:38 OldCoder But I have just made some changes
07:39 anunakki i'm on the europe map
07:39 anunakki lot of biulding here
07:39 anunakki pretty cool
07:39 OldCoder Oh?
07:40 OldCoder Yes
07:42 DeusFigendi erm I asked a few hours ago maybe other ppl reading now :D : How do I change the texture of a block in an ABM?
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08:17 OldCoder frigg I am using my own build of HexChat
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08:18 CTMN OldCoder can u stop giving stuff to them pls?
08:18 OldCoder ?
08:18 OldCoder To who?
08:18 CTMN On the server
08:19 OldCoder I have given no more that I recall
08:19 CTMN To the both new guys
08:19 OldCoder i don't think I have given any more
08:19 CTMN They r selling it
08:19 OldCoder Let me grep the logs
08:19 OldCoder What is a typical item?
08:19 CTMN Did u give them privs for giveme?
08:19 CTMN Mythril
08:19 OldCoder Probably
08:19 OldCoder I can revoke that
08:20 OldCoder Hang on
08:20 CTMN And probably diamond and mese
08:20 OldCoder I assume that selling giveme items is considered bad form
08:21 NakedFury if they are not admins or moderators and are not making a server shop then yes
08:22 CTMN They r playin around with lava
08:22 OldCoder I have revoked giveme for both
08:22 OldCoder What about give?
08:22 CTMN One of them built a lava trap
08:22 OldCoder What about give?
08:22 NakedFury its cheating in other words. getting items not the way it was meant in and using it to profit
08:22 OldCoder Fine
08:22 OldCoder I will revoke give as well
08:23 OldCoder
08:23 OldCoder O.K.
08:23 CTMN NakedFury, its what I said yesterday and u saw what the others said to me
08:23 OldCoder I have revoked give and giveme for both
08:23 OldCoder This is an interesting lava device though
08:24 OldCoder Does the revocation satisfy people?
08:24 CTMN A lava device?
08:24 NakedFury I thought they were using it to rebuild a grief attempt not to profit with it
08:24 OldCoder Coordinates are:
08:24 OldCoder NakedFury, you are correct
08:24 CTMN Zeitgeist knows one of them
08:24 OldCoder -24,7.5,-19.9
08:24 OldCoder Check it out
08:25 CTMN Zeitgeist said that he did such things in the past
08:25 OldCoder Does the revocation satisfy people?
08:25 CTMN That's also why he revoked their privs
08:26 NakedFury it would me
08:26 CTMN For a time, but not forever
08:26 OldCoder CTMN I have revoked give and giveme for both
08:26 CTMN Ok
08:26 OldCoder Is this sufficient for now?
08:26 OldCoder All right
08:27 CTMN I will tell u if they r messing around again
08:27 OldCoder O.K.
08:27 CTMN R u online 24/7?
08:27 OldCoder Heh
08:27 * OldCoder laughs
08:27 OldCoder No
08:27 OldCoder I will sleep for about 4 hours shortly
08:27 CTMN It makes the impression
08:28 OldCoder Ah
08:28 * OldCoder shrugs
08:28 NakedFury is it possible to have different logs for the game? one for chat, one for commands that admins or people with priviledges would use, other for errors only
08:28 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes
08:28 OldCoder It is possible
08:28 CTMN With Lua?
08:28 CTMN I don't think
08:28 OldCoder CTMN, Lua the language can process texxt
08:28 OldCoder *text
08:28 CTMN I know
08:28 OldCoder But I don't know if it has access to that level
08:29 OldCoder If you wish to review the logs
08:29 OldCoder I can modify the servers to...
08:29 CTMN That's what I mean
08:29 OldCoder make them display what NakedFury asks
08:29 OldCoder quite easily
08:29 CTMN No I don't wish
08:29 NakedFury not me but for ease of use for owners like you
08:29 OldCoder Remind me later this month
08:29 OldCoder It is a simple matter
08:30 OldCoder CTMN It is an interesting lava device
08:30 OldCoder Perhaps a bit dangerous
08:30 CTMN Its a lava trap
08:30 OldCoder Trap?
08:30 OldCoder It is not hidden
08:30 OldCoder There is a waterfall of lava
08:30 CTMN Im goin afk will get back
08:30 OldCoder k
08:31 OldCoder NakedFury, For server owners it is easy to display the logs via the Web
08:31 OldCoder Assuming they have VPS
08:33 NakedFury I guess having them show all information in their separate logs would facilitate operations. finding people bad mounthing in chat or corrupted admins, or easily seeing the errors, and another log for placement. if it needed to go even crasier a placement log for each individual player. so you can see who used that lava
08:34 OldCoder A Perl script will do this
08:35 NakedFury it would read the games debug and sort it out in other txt files?
08:35 OldCoder Yes
08:35 OldCoder By the Web
08:35 NakedFury nice
08:35 OldCoder Very simple
08:35 OldCoder If there are more incidents such as today
08:35 OldCoder 1. griefing
08:35 OldCoder 2. complaints about cheating
08:35 OldCoder I will put the logs online in real time
08:35 OldCoder Then people can decide what happened
08:35 OldCoder
08:36 NakedFury thats cool
08:39 CTMN Im back again
08:39 OldCoder k
08:39 CTMN One of them built a house with a door out of trapstones
08:39 OldCoder What are those?
08:39 CTMN When I entered it, there were trapstones on the floor
08:40 CTMN Trapstones r stones that don't collide with the player
08:40 OldCoder CTMN, I will probably make logs available to all in the uture
08:40 OldCoder Via the Web
08:40 CTMN K
08:40 OldCoder Then everybody can decide things
08:40 OldCoder Not tonight, though. Almost time to nap.
08:40 Mika_R oldcoder, cheating?
08:40 CTMN Maybe write the coords
08:41 OldCoder Mika_R, he states so
08:41 Mika_R in what game?
08:41 OldCoder Port 30001
08:41 OldCoder U.S.
08:41 CTMN Hmmm... What was it called? XD
08:41 OldCoder Tuxworld
08:41 CTMN Minetest
08:41 CTMN Tuxworld???
08:42 Mika_R someone want to tell me how is it possible to cheat in this game?
08:42 OldCoder There are about 15 worlds
08:42 OldCoder Mika_R, by misusing privileges
08:42 OldCoder Also by using a hacked client
08:42 Mika_R ok
08:43 CTMN Is it possible to cheat with hacked clients?
08:43 OldCoder Yes
08:43 OldCoder I believe so
08:43 OldCoder Or at least to grief
08:43 CTMN I thougt they only draw the image and send the user input to the server
08:44 CTMN Even modded textures r loaded from the server
08:44 OldCoder CTMN, There are security holes
08:44 CTMN Yes...
08:44 NakedFury I thought changing source code changed something in the game that didnt let you join another version of the game
08:44 OldCoder Depends
08:44 OldCoder I have been told...
08:44 CTMN NakedFury: It depends on what u change
08:44 OldCoder There are security holes in the server code that can be exploited
08:45 OldCoder I am rebuilding HexChat
08:45 CTMN Ur right
08:45 OldCoder This will take me offline for a minute
08:45 CTMN Hexchat?
08:45 OldCoder My IRC program
08:45 CTMN Ur IRC client
08:45 OldCoder I maintain a Linux distro
08:45 OldCoder Yes
08:45 OldCoder I am building all the programs
08:45 CTMN K...
08:46 CTMN Maybe Ill take a look on the client source...
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08:47 CTMN Did anyone see real hackers that used exploits?
08:47 OldCoder Yes
08:47 OldCoder You have been suspected of being the best one
08:47 OldCoder Wait; I am restarting
08:48 CTMN Me being a hacker?
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08:48 OldCoder
08:48 CTMN Me being a hacker?..
08:48 OldCoder It does not matter
08:49 CTMN What does not matter?
08:49 OldCoder The point; hackers
08:49 OldCoder Excuse me. I am tired and finishing things for now.
08:49 OldCoder Hmm. They have updated the HexChat icon.
08:50 CTMN OldCoder, there r several bugs on the server
08:50 OldCoder Yes
08:50 NakedFury that reminded me to check for my hexchats updates
08:50 OldCoder We will try to fix some things
08:50 CTMN Zeitgeist and me got some air and water flow blocks
08:50 OldCoder NakedFury, Best to build from source
08:50 NakedFury be back in a bit
08:50 OldCoder CTMN, All right
08:50 OldCoder CTMN, Is there a fix you need?
08:50 CTMN Just wanted to say
08:50 CTMN No
08:50 OldCoder All right
08:51 CTMN I generally think the server and the map should be restarted
08:51 OldCoder Hmm?
08:51 OldCoder If you wish a new world...
08:51 OldCoder It is open for discussion
08:51 OldCoder If you don't want to play with those two we can talk about it
08:51 CTMN The worst thing is that the village was generated without the moreores mod
08:51 OldCoder Do you have another built-up world you wish to use?
08:51 CTMN The two guys rnt a problem
08:52 CTMN No
08:52 OldCoder Do you wish to redo part of the village?
08:52 OldCoder This world was created by mrtux
08:52 CTMN Lets talk later gtg
08:52 OldCoder It is largely his decision
08:52 OldCoder All right
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08:53 OldCoder NakedFury, wb
08:53 NakedFury yeah the icon seems better for the name
08:55 NakedFury what are ctcp?
08:56 OldCoder Hmm?
08:56 OldCoder Messages
08:56 OldCoder Did somebody just CTCP you?
08:56 OldCoder They were checking your program
08:56 NakedFury by someone named frigg
08:56 OldCoder He did it to me too
08:56 OldCoder It is usual
08:56 OldCoder Hold on
08:56 OldCoder I can do it to him
08:57 OldCoder He seems to have blocked them
08:57 NakedFury well nevermind that
08:58 OldCoder k
08:59 NakedFury minecraft keeps shrinking blocks so I have to edit more of them now
08:59 OldCoder k
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09:03 OldCoder kotolegokot, I am using one of your mods
09:03 OldCoder Two
09:03 OldCoder Locked Sign and Money
09:04 Mika_R oldcoder, what was the address to your US servers?
09:04 kotolegokot I am glad that my mods useful to someone.
09:04 NakedFury http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
09:04 OldCoder Hi
09:05 OldCoder NakedFury, also:
09:05 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
09:05 OldCoder That is easier to remember
09:05 NakedFury I typed that but it changed
09:05 NakedFury just noticed its different
09:05 Mika_R changed the location?
09:05 NakedFury but yes, minetest.org is easier to remember
09:08 OldCoder Mika_R, The pages are the same
09:08 OldCoder I have three of them now
09:08 OldCoder I will add more MT material
09:08 OldCoder Code and scripts and screenshots
09:09 OldCoder One moment
09:09 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineworlds.html
09:09 OldCoder
09:09 OldCoder That page is new
09:09 OldCoder i wish to collect
09:09 OldCoder Coordinates and stories
09:09 OldCoder Of interesting places
09:09 OldCoder Mika_R, write coordinates of your places
09:10 OldCoder and their stories
09:10 OldCoder They will be added to the travelogue
09:10 OldCoder Click the link and you will see
09:10 OldCoder
09:10 Mika_R haven't built any interesting yet, still under construction
09:10 OldCoder all right
09:10 OldCoder time to zzz
09:10 OldCoder Zzz
09:10 * OldCoder is resting
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09:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:22 NakedFury hey
09:23 NakedFury whats going on in your lua head PilzAdam?
09:23 FreeFull Hi
09:24 PilzAdam NakedFury, sleep()
09:24 PilzAdam now: read(ForumIO(minetest.net))
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10:00 Jordach hello everyone
10:00 PilzAdam hi Jordach
10:00 Jordach good morning adam
10:01 Jordach you shoud try europe.minetest.org
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10:16 Jordach Vohveli, what is your status with c55?
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10:37 CTMN OldCoder, r u readin the forums?
10:37 thexyz v2s32 means vector of 2 4-bytes signed ints
10:37 thexyz isn't that clear?
10:37 NakedFury it is now
10:41 Jordach thexyz, explain v3s16
10:41 thexyz same thing
10:41 thexyz vector of 3 2-bytes signed ints
10:42 NakedFury RBA wanted to know to find a way to add backgrounds to the menus and gui's
10:46 CTMN The menu has already one
10:46 NakedFury for the transparent windows?
10:46 CTMN No
10:47 NakedFury that is what he wanted
10:47 CTMN Oh ok
10:49 CTMN Maybe show images and draw on them?
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11:32 artur99 hey
11:32 artur99 whats up, brothers?
11:34 artur99 is enybody here?
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11:42 NakedFury most are sleeping
11:42 artur99 here is 2 pm
11:42 artur99 there is 4 am,isnt there?
11:43 NakedFury puerto rico - 7.43 am
11:43 artur99 aaa
11:43 artur99 7
11:43 artur99 are u american?
11:43 artur99 im romanian
11:43 NakedFury nice to meet you
11:44 artur99 are u american?
11:44 artur99 im 13, u?
11:44 NakedFury well puerto rico is a colony of USA so I guess I am
11:44 artur99 aaa
11:45 artur99 how old?
11:45 NakedFury 24
11:45 artur99 are u?
11:45 artur99 old man
11:45 artur99 ;)
11:45 NakedFury yeah
11:45 artur99 do u have an site?
11:45 NakedFury no
11:45 artur99 *a site?
11:46 artur99 where do u work, what domain?
11:46 NakedFury no internet work, college student
11:46 artur99 what type of studing?
11:47 NakedFury architecture
11:47 artur99 aaa
11:48 NakedFury switched from something in accounting I was studying so im still new at it
11:49 NakedFury hopefuly I will finish when im 28
11:50 NakedFury almost 6 years after I should have finished
11:50 NakedFury you should learn what you want to be and go for it fast
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11:51 artur99 frate, esti?
11:51 artur99 is enybody here?
11:52 NakedFury no idea
11:52 costy hi!!
11:53 artur99 helo, costy!
11:53 Mika_R in here now
11:53 Mika_R ti*m
11:53 artur99 whats up?
11:53 Mika_R i'm*
11:54 Mika_R thinking how to make my house
11:54 costy I don't speak very good english  we teach me please
11:54 Mika_R costy, from?
11:54 artur99 costy is my friend, he is 14, and is romanian like me... He dont speak english as good as me....
11:54 * PilzAdam is back
11:55 Mika_R ok
11:56 artur99 mika, so early wake up?
11:56 Mika_R no, it's 14:56
11:56 costy mika,o'clock is 14:56??
11:56 artur99 mika, whwew are u from?
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11:57 Mika_R Finland
11:57 artur99 aaa
11:57 costy mika e din finlanda?? artur99??
11:57 artur99 there's 2 pm as here in  romania
11:57 artur99 mda cosy...
11:58 artur99 but in america is 7:57 am
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11:58 costy zeg_9  where are you from??
11:58 artur99 mika, how old?
11:59 Mika_R artur it can be 5 am in US too
11:59 artur99 ”has left” is the same with ”leaved the room”, costy!
11:59 artur99 yes...
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12:00 costy mika how old
12:00 costy ??
12:00 costy ii bum artur??
12:00 Mika_R 21
12:01 artur99 are u student?
12:01 costy goog i have 14
12:01 costy you are boy or girl??
12:02 Mika_R male
12:02 costy aaaa yes
12:02 artur99 do u have a site?
12:02 artur99 is here eny girl?
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12:03 costy do not joined mine test
12:03 PilzAdam is this a examination?
12:03 artur99 what?
12:03 artur99 aaa
12:04 artur99 he tried say he dosent played the game yet
12:04 artur99 is here eny girl?
12:05 PilzAdam i mean the "how old are you?" questions
12:05 PilzAdam why are you asking this?
12:05 artur99 curiosity
12:05 artur99 :D
12:07 thexyz killed the cat
12:07 artur99 who?
12:07 artur99 a car?
12:07 artur99 or a dog?
12:07 thexyz curiosity
12:07 artur99 :))
12:09 q66 curiosity killed a cat?
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12:09 q66 i thought there were no cats on mars
12:09 thexyz there was one
12:09 artur99 :))))
12:09 artur99 my cat
12:10 artur99 This curiosity:
12:10 artur99 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120803.html
12:10 artur99 ?
12:11 artur99 :)
12:11 Jordach the dog curiosity "rover type breed" killed my cat..
12:11 PilzAdam i know what curiosity is
12:11 Jordach PilzAdam, lol
12:11 PilzAdam i also know spirit
12:12 q66 there also was sojourner
12:12 artur99 the film, or your spirit?
12:13 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_rover
12:14 artur99 aaa! the rover
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12:16 artur99 who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him something
12:19 artur99 who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him something
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12:22 artur99 who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him/her something
12:22 VanessaE morning all..
12:22 thexyz well, that ignore thing may be really useful
12:22 Mika_R hi vanessaE, think i found a problem in your mods
12:23 artur99 good night... here is 3 pm
12:23 VanessaE what problem?
12:23 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
12:23 VanessaE hey PilzAdam - get my message on the forum?
12:23 Mika_R seems like you've taken the old recepy away on plastic, the one melting dry shrubs
12:24 VanessaE mika: revised.  three dry shrubs now.
12:24 Mika_R impossible
12:24 VanessaE (or three jungle grass, or 6 leaves)
12:24 PilzAdam VanessaE, about the font?
12:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah
12:24 thexyz VanessaE: are there any screenshots of that font?
12:25 VanessaE thexyz: not yet
12:25 VanessaE Mika_R: impossible?
12:26 Mika_R wasn't the old code to melt dry shrubs or am i wrong to make plastic
12:26 VanessaE Mika_R: it was two dry shrubs before, but two junglegrass conflicted with throwing mod, so I changed both for consistency
12:27 * Jordach is going out for mac donalds
12:27 VanessaE Jordach: bring back a bacon egg and cheese bagel for me? ;-)
12:27 Jordach VanessaE, i dont have time travel
12:27 VanessaE (Haven't had one of those in years)
12:27 Jordach i also re installed windows xp
12:27 Jordach bbl
12:29 Mika_R Vanessa how do i remember that on redcrab's server i burnt the shrubs to get plastic
12:29 VanessaE mika:  I changed it so that you have to craft jungle grass or dry shrub or leaves into raw plastic and then cook that to get the plastic sheeting.
12:30 VanessaE needed so that I could require multiple items to make one plastic sheet - avoids recipe conflicts with other mods.
12:30 Mika_R ok, i was gonna say that on this other server with dyes, burning shrubs makes brown color
12:31 VanessaE exactly. :-)
12:32 VanessaE (translation:  a default two- or three-input alloy oven similar to the one in technic would have been a smart idea)
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12:33 VanessaE thexyz: question, if a server is using the old xdoors mod (the one that uses the default wood texture on one-node-high nodebox based doors), can Xdoors2 directly replace it?
12:35 VanessaE (or the default doors - either way)
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12:43 VanessaE er, single-node, two-node-high I meant of course.
12:44 PilzAdam why do i have to answer the anti spam questions in the forum from time to time?
12:45 VanessaE I always assumed it had to do with the content of my posts or something
12:45 VanessaE I get those questions every so often also
12:45 PilzAdam i get it when i switch the PC and randomly ~1 time in a month
12:49 artur99 Who is good here in site creeating? I want to ask him/her something...
12:49 VanessaE just ask your question, artur99.
12:49 VanessaE provided it is minetest related.
12:49 artur99 ok
12:51 artur99 how to creeate an window to be larger when is cliked
12:51 VanessaE answer: you don't, because people hate that.
12:51 artur99 do u have a facebook account for exemple?
12:52 VanessaE I do.
12:52 artur99 when u clikc an image, it is bigger in a window in the center of the browser
12:53 VanessaE I don't know how that's done.
12:53 artur99 go to facebook
12:54 artur99 and clik on the last image on the news feed
12:54 VanessaE I mean I don't know the code needed to do that offhand.
12:54 artur99 aaa
12:54 artur99 do u have a site?
12:54 VanessaE still, what's this got to do with minetest?
12:54 artur99 nothing...
12:55 artur99 u said:
12:55 artur99 „just ask your question, artur99.”
12:55 artur99 :D
12:55 VanessaE [10-13 08:49] <VanessaE> provided it is minetest related.
12:56 artur99 are u a girl or a boy?
12:56 VanessaE I'm a girl of course.
12:57 VanessaE anyway you'd be better off asking your website question in a web development channel
12:57 artur99 how old?
12:58 VanessaE Old enough. :-)
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13:05 Mika_R vanessaE, got screenshots of those 2 red brick houses you've made in single player?
13:06 VanessaE sure,  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2372
13:07 Mika_R is there much stairs, panels, slabs?
13:07 VanessaE in the smaller one, none at all - it was built before the advent of nodeboxes et.al
13:07 Mika_R ok
13:08 VanessaE the second uses a few but mostly relies on homedecor and bobblocks for the details.
13:08 VanessaE I'd like to get redcrab or cactuzpl or someone to export the one I build on redcrab,suret,net:30401, that one is the best of the three
13:08 Mika_R cause bob the builder cant use special pieces
13:10 VanessaE I think both can be built well enough without such things, but you might want to make sure about that
13:10 Mika_R when i get the game to work i'll see what they take
13:13 Mika_R 242 glass, 515 stone, 1007 planks 1064 bricks, i guess it's the smaller one, would be to put 63 fences at least myself
13:13 VanessaE whew
13:13 VanessaE I didn't realize how expensive that house was :D
13:14 Mika_R that was the bigger one
13:14 VanessaE ah
13:14 Mika_R small one: 1141 cobble, 565 bricks, 750 planks, 137 glass
13:15 Mika_R its only listed the big amounts, then there is some chests, furnace, bookshelfs
13:15 VanessaE right
13:18 Mika_R i have built 6 of 21 buildings that bob has blueprints on
13:18 VanessaE cool
13:20 Mika_R there is still 6 possible buildings but they take space and resources
13:22 Mika_R one of the most expensive is acdc house with 1448 planks, 570 sand, 488 trees and 528 stairs
13:24 Mika_R VanessaE, have you made these seaweed?
13:24 VanessaE yes
13:25 VanessaE though I'm not at all convinced it behaves right.
13:25 Mika_R they seem to spawn up to 2 blocks from water
13:25 VanessaE yes
13:26 VanessaE I think I need to reduce that to 1 block from water and only on the same vertical position
13:26 Mika_R how about making them spawn on sand and dirt only?
13:29 VanessaE I dunno
13:29 Mika_R now they even grow in my basement where i have watermills to generate power
13:29 VanessaE I don't want to mess up peoples' nice beaches
13:29 Mika_R then dirt only
13:30 VanessaE maybe you're right
13:30 Mika_R ill restart, brb
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13:33 Mika_R im back
13:33 VanessaE wb
13:33 VanessaE ok, water, dirt, grass only, and only within one node of a shoreline.
13:33 VanessaE now I'm looking for the best way to make it spawn on stone but only on stones that are surrounded by water
13:34 Mika_R i'll take a look at my place if it grows around
13:37 Mika_R VanessaE, how do i make myself almighty on singleplayer?
13:37 VanessaE /grant singleplayer all
13:38 Mika_R how does give work?
13:39 VanessaE /giveme default:stone 999
13:39 Mika_R thx
13:40 Mika_R ill test that towntest in singleplayer if it works properly
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13:44 Kacey hello
13:45 Mika_R hi
13:45 Kacey how r u
13:45 Jordach VanessaE, back
13:45 VanessaE wb
13:45 Kacey hello jordach
13:46 Mika_R vanessaE, am i supposed to put the zip or extract it to the mods folder+
13:46 Mika_R ?
13:46 VanessaE eh?
13:47 VanessaE what zip?
13:47 Mika_R to get mods in singleplayer, i have towntest as a zip file
13:47 VanessaE oh
13:47 VanessaE extract the zip somewhere, rename the resultant folder if necessary, then copy the folder to your minetest mods directory
13:48 VanessaE (rename is needed for example if a mod came from github)
13:48 Jordach VanessaE, unless you insert a folder into the git repo
13:48 Jordach like i do
13:48 VanessaE right
13:49 VanessaE I do that with my texture packs
13:49 VanessaE but not with my mods
13:49 Jordach all i have to do is drag my folder out and done
13:49 VanessaE is there an easy way in Lua to get he length of a returned list?
13:49 VanessaE the*
13:49 Kacey i still need a good texture making software
13:50 Jordach the gimp
13:50 Jordach paint.net
13:50 VanessaE kacey: any good image editor will do that job just fine
13:50 Kacey besides micrrosoft paint
13:50 Kacey gimp is confusing
13:51 VanessaE take time to learn it
13:51 Kacey brb
13:52 VanessaE table.getn(myArray)
13:52 VanessaE that's the function I needed.
13:53 Kacey found the download button
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13:55 Kacey back
13:59 Kacey hello...
13:59 VanessaE hi
13:59 Kacey i am downloading paint.net
14:01 Kacey i am sooooo tired
14:03 Kacey anybody home!!!!
14:04 Jordach hmm
14:06 OldCoder Back
14:06 OldCoder VanessaE, Artur is in Romania
14:06 Mika_R oldcoder, are all the mods on Europe newest releases?
14:08 VanessaE good morning OldCoder
14:08 OldCoder Mika_R, They are the newest that people have said to use and that are considered stable. If you notice something out of date let me know.
14:08 Kacey paint.net is pretty cool
14:09 OldCoder Who paged me?
14:09 OldCoder *scroll*
14:10 Mika_R oldcoder, can't make glow glass, they are more blocks and that mod is on the list
14:11 VanessaE Mika_R: I think I have the changes for flowers done right.  testing that now.
14:11 Kacey reload the mod
14:12 OldCoder Mika_R, verifying it is there
14:12 Kacey im going to make a player texture
14:13 OldCoder Mika_R, which mod is glow glass?
14:13 Mika_R oldcoder, as far as i know its moreblocks
14:14 OldCoder You have the latest version from git
14:14 OldCoder Hold on
14:14 Kacey yes it is moreblocks
14:15 Kacey my player texture is going to be awesome
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14:16 OldCoder Mika_R, moreblocks is there and it is a version from two days ago. If you tell me what to search for I will grep the logs.
14:16 OldCoder This is the Europe world BTW
14:16 Mika_R i'm on europe and try to make glowglass without success
14:16 OldCoder Mika_R, see the above
14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, moreblocks is there and it is a version from two days ago. If you tell me what to search for I will grep the logs.
14:17 Mika_R dummy that down for me
14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, There is not enough information for me to say anything at all.
14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, I have the logs
14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, we can fix this
14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, tell me what to look for in the logs
14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, then perhaps I can comment
14:18 OldCoder Done
14:18 OldCoder
14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, I do not maintain mods
14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, Instead I coordinate them
14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, I can also help to debug them
14:18 Mika_R all i know is that glowglass is a part of moreblocks, and is crafted middle row from bottom up is glass and torch
14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, If glowglass does not work please speak with mod author
14:19 OldCoder Calinou
14:19 OldCoder
14:19 OldCoder I will grep the logs now
14:20 Kacey laggy computer
14:21 OldCoder
14:21 OldCoder Mika_R, can you provide information about what to look for in the logs? I do not see glow anywhere in the main log
14:21 OldCoder
14:22 Mika_R wait a sec
14:22 OldCoder In the debug log is this:
14:22 OldCoder 09:24:22: VERBOSE[main]: Server: 03490126d74209265e4a097f220b72704e548050 is moreblocks_glowglass.png
14:22 OldCoder
14:22 OldCoder It appears glowglass is present
14:22 OldCoder So is superglowglass
14:23 OldCoder
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14:23 OldCoder Mika_R, it is not called glowglass but superglowglass
14:24 OldCoder Calinou, does moreblocks contain glowglass or superglowglass?
14:24 Calinou superglowglass = same texture as glowglass but glows more :P
14:24 Calinou it contains both
14:24 Calinou glowglass is light level 10, superglowglass 14
14:24 OldCoder Calinou, I see super in the logs but not regular
14:24 OldCoder Wait
14:24 OldCoder There it is
14:24 Calinou superglowglass is 1 glass + 2 torch, glowglass 1 glass + 1 torch
14:24 OldCoder "moreblocks:glowglass 1", recipe={ "torch","glass" }
14:24 OldCoder Mika_R, state the problem again
14:25 OldCoder Mika_R, the recipe is registered and in the logs
14:25 Mika_R i cant make them
14:25 VanessaE is there a command I can issue that will freeze the day/night cycle at a certain time?
14:25 JangoFett154 Hey OldCoder i dont hvae give priv, i cant finish the mansin without it
14:25 Mika_R i have the lua in the background and found it there, don't know how old release
14:26 OldCoder JangoFett154, PM
14:29 Mika_R i can craft about everything else there is in moreblocks, but not glowglass
14:29 Mika_R Calinou, have you changed any recipes?
14:32 VanessaE OldCoder, Mika_R:  please update your copies of flowers mod
14:32 VanessaE I've reworked the seaweed.
14:33 Mika_R nice
14:33 VanessaE Calinou: you really should use shapeless recipes for [super]glowglass and bronze btw.
14:33 Calinou it does already
14:33 VanessaE as well as coal and iron glasses
14:34 VanessaE when did that change?
14:34 Kacey ok player front s done
14:35 Kacey player back is done
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14:37 OldCoder Hi
14:37 OldCoder VanessaE, Proceeding
14:39 Kacey what is the adress that you put in to make two clients on the same computer
14:40 VanessaE 127.0.0.1
14:40 VanessaE if you set up a server locally of course
14:40 Kacey ok
14:42 Kacey ok need to work on transparency
14:50 OldCoder VanessaE, flowers are updated but will not appear until next server rebuild. I will hold that until later today unless people need it. Reason is to avoid too many interruptions of players.
14:50 VanessaE ok
14:50 OldCoder VanessaE, BTW some of your textures are now in. I will proceed judiciously. Adding or subtracting individual textures to find a good mix.
14:51 VanessaE sounds good
14:51 VanessaE bbl, I need to lie down
14:51 OldCoder k
14:52 OldCoder Is there consensus regarding Mika_R glowglass issue?
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14:55 Jordach VanessaE should have this http://i.imgur.com/xSraQ.jpg
14:55 Kacey my texture is pretty good
14:55 OldCoder Kacey, what is it for?
14:56 Kacey player texture
14:57 OldCoder Kacey, I will make it one of the player textures if you like for the server nexus
14:57 OldCoder Eventually everybody will have one
14:57 OldCoder of their own, I mean
14:58 Kacey it is still a wip
14:58 OldCoder Fine
14:58 Kacey but that would be ok
14:58 Kacey 5 minutes is all i need
14:58 OldCoder When you are ready, provide a copy
14:58 OldCoder No rush
14:58 Kacey ok
14:58 OldCoder Take longer
14:58 OldCoder I am here
14:58 Kacey ok
14:59 Kacey trasparency isue
14:59 Kacey issue*
15:02 Kacey ok got player front done
15:04 * PilzAdam is back
15:05 Kacey hello
15:06 OldCoder PilzAdam, wb
15:06 Kacey PilzAdam i like your workers mod
15:07 PilzAdam only parts of it are from me
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15:07 Kacey really?
15:07 PilzAdam you mean Towntest?
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15:07 Kacey no workers mod
15:07 PilzAdam what workers mod?
15:08 Kacey sorry i thought you were local_alchemist
15:08 PilzAdam why?
15:08 Kacey idk
15:10 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/c8Rwp.gif
15:10 OldCoder ?
15:12 Kacey freakin a man
15:12 Kacey transparency hates me
15:13 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/eMBoO - this needs to be an ore NOW, Calinou, get to it,
15:14 Kacey .lol
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15:15 NakedFury dammit there are so many silvery looking ores it pisses me off
15:15 Kacey lol
15:16 Kacey make it all colorful
15:17 Kacey my brain hurts man
15:25 Calinou tin and silver look quite similar, yeah :p
15:25 Calinou http://imgur.com/gallery/W8TBc < lol
15:28 OldCoder Calinou, any thoughts on Mika_R glowglass issue? If none sorry to disturb you
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15:32 Calinou dunno
15:33 NakedFury silver, tin, zinc, chromium
15:34 NakedFury unless I just add a color to the silver they end up looking the same
15:34 NakedFury that or also add/make new mineral looking versions but when it comes to ingot they end up looking the same
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16:06 T_A_N_K sfan5, come play rigs of rods with me on the server!
16:06 sfan5 now?
16:07 T_A_N_K yes
16:07 T_A_N_K rigs of rods works perfect in wine now
16:09 Jordach T_A_N_K, sfan5, id rather be playing qwop
16:09 sfan5 lol
16:09 T_A_N_K i am on server smallisland.terrn
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16:15 OldCoder mrtux, Hello
16:15 mrtux hi
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16:29 PilzAdam little update in throwing mod: https://github.com/PilzAdam/throwing/commit/c74812bee3751b130c6130adb36912a8e167634c
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16:35 rubenwardy My brother is a two-faced little arser
16:35 rubenwardy *arse
16:36 Jordach rubenwardy, same here
16:37 Jordach and why>
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16:50 PilzAdam the spawing of the mobs in mobs mod can now be disabled by other mods: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/843009965f98f6aa51de417156651f67587dbb23
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16:56 Jordach whoops, close button is evil in xchat without warnings :(
16:56 PilzAdam yep
16:57 FreeFull Jordach: That's why I use irssi in tmux =P
16:57 Calinou lolirssi
16:57 Calinou hexchat FTW
16:57 FreeFull Bleh, GUI
16:58 Jordach FreeFull, Calinou, WINDOWS XP
16:58 NakedFury bleh other ircs. hexchat rules them all
16:58 Calinou Jordach: hexchat works on windows
16:58 Jordach AdiIRC
16:58 NakedFury yes it does!
16:58 Jordach :D
16:58 NakedFury I am using hexchat windows 7 64x
16:58 FreeFull Calinou: Does hexchat warn you if you press x ?
16:58 Calinou no
16:58 Calinou but why would you do that?
16:58 Calinou X == close
16:58 Calinou - == minimize
16:59 Calinou X only minimizing is stupid
16:59 Calinou and warnings are stupid
16:59 Calinou they're from the windows world
16:59 Calinou "DO U WANT TO DELTE DIS??????????"
16:59 Calinou when you're just pressing "del", which puts stuff in trash
16:59 * PilzAdam deletes Calinou without warning
16:59 Jordach Calinou, i like what i like
16:59 Jordach DEAL WITH IT
17:00 Jordach VanessaE, can you kick Calinou's ass
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17:02 PilzAdam wtf: https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/blob/master/init.lua#L150
17:02 PilzAdam does nobody read my mods and see bugs like this?
17:02 Calinou looks like github's text editing is now server side... and lacks syntax coloring for me :|
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17:04 * Jordach uses notepad++
17:04 Jordach deal. with. it.
17:04 Jordach also, dinner
17:05 thexyz i thought nobody uses it
17:06 thexyz at least it's better than notepad.exe
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17:06 RealBadAngel hi
17:09 Calinou NP++ ftw
17:10 Calinou thexyz: a lot of people use it
17:10 Calinou most used editor after windows' notepad
17:10 thexyz that doesn't make it better
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17:13 Calinou it has lots of stuff :P
17:13 Calinou eg. find something in a folder (in text's content), and replace it
17:13 Calinou no fucking around with sed anymore (and there's no sed on windows anyway)
17:14 thexyz i'm sure there is
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17:24 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/commit/0d2d3d203bc46a28a77383dca3870f514808f3d4
17:26 rubenwardy is github down *again*
17:26 PilzAdam no... ?
17:30 Jordach rubenwardy, DNS not resolved?
17:31 rubenwardy it works now, for me
17:31 rubenwardy for i a few secs it was
17:32 Jordach rubenwardy, the eu is testing major network ddos attacks
17:32 PilzAdam Jordach, citation needed
17:34 Jordach PilzAdam, that sounds like the most obvious cause
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17:55 * Jordach_ is burning Wip3out 3 to CD
17:55 PilzAdam strange... all youtube vids are blue/red inverted
17:55 Jordach_ Google is probably upto its tricks
17:58 Jordach_ PilzAdam, is your gpu dying?
17:58 Jordach_ youtube is the same
17:58 PilzAdam dunno
17:58 Vohveli Jordach_: he's an IRC acquaintance mostly, I've known him some 7-8 years
18:00 PilzAdam Jordach_, if I use pop out it is normal
18:05 Jordach_ Vohveli, my question is, how _DID_ you gain moderator status for minetest forums
18:06 Vohveli Jordach_: he gave it to me
18:07 Vohveli it was some time ago, I haven't been very active recently
18:08 rubenwardy An hour and a bit until Merlin!
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18:10 cosarara97 no!
18:10 cosarara97 I broke my bones
18:10 cosarara97 lol
18:10 rubenwardy You know what would be cool, a craft database. You can move items into a craft box, and it tells you what mods use that recipe, and what for
18:11 PilzAdam you mean like craft guide?
18:12 rubenwardy but for all mods and on the internet, so it will minimise craft conflicts with new mod
18:12 rubenwardy s
18:13 rubenwardy anyway, craft guide is object --> recipe,   this one will be recipe --> object
18:14 Jordach_ rubenwardy, doctor who is BETTER THAN merlin
18:15 NakedFury doctor who is better than everything
18:15 Jordach_ +8
18:15 rubenwardy not the latest series, but the one before that was good
18:16 NakedFury yeah he was special
18:16 NakedFury im expecting something expectacular with the new companion chick
18:17 OldCoder NakedFury, hey
18:17 NakedFury hey
18:18 rubenwardy Was the cracks the episode before the lasted one, or was it before that?
18:19 NakedFury can you reword that sentence?
18:20 NakedFury last episode this half of the season was the good bye of the Ponds
18:20 rubenwardy When was the series with the cracks and the explosion of the tardis?
18:21 NakedFury hmm the cracks...
18:21 rubenwardy was it the set before the one we just had, or was it before that
18:22 NakedFury before
18:22 NakedFury http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/cracks-in-time-4339.htm
18:24 rubenwardy time goes fast...
18:24 NakedFury http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_arcs_in_Doctor_Who
18:24 NakedFury yes dammit
18:24 NakedFury no time to enjoy it
18:25 Jordach_ bbl, taking girlfriend home
18:28 rubenwardy The actor of Amy Pond was in the Fires of Pompeii Episode
18:29 NakedFury I like her
18:30 NakedFury the new companion is supposed to be the girl that erased the Doctor from history in Asylum of the Daleks
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18:31 rubenwardy i heard
18:31 NakedFury I guess its gonna be some kind of meet her in the past then tag along then when they part she dies
18:31 NakedFury that sucks
18:31 rubenwardy but does the doctor's wife move in
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18:32 NakedFury maybe. he knows she will die soon-ish
18:32 rubenwardy same with the doctor's wife, first seen in episode where she dies
18:32 NakedFury yeah that was sad once you know it
18:32 NakedFury ohh shit someone who is great friends with the doctor then BOOM POW! she is fried
18:33 rubenwardy i reckon that happens to her in the next 5-10 years of her life.
18:33 NakedFury yeah, she really knows how to keep that figure
18:34 NakedFury would be interesting to see if by the end a baby is born out of that
18:34 NakedFury too hapy an ending
18:35 rubenwardy like in that episode where the Doctor is cloned. The Doctor thought her "daughter" died, but she ran off in a space ship somewhere. Never seen again
18:35 NakedFury yes
18:35 NakedFury that was also cool
18:36 rubenwardy i wonder if the doctors "daughter" will turn up...
18:36 NakedFury I would not hate that. would be totally not against it. a sort of family entourage time
18:36 rubenwardy because she is a time lord (kind off)
18:37 NakedFury she did show a regeneration
18:37 rubenwardy yes
18:37 rubenwardy|away brb
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18:41 Octupus hello
18:42 Octupus how do i make a cloud diggable?
18:42 Octupus because im making a new mod :)
18:46 rubenwardy back
18:46 rubenwardy redefine default:cloud
18:46 rubenwardy iirc
18:47 Octupus ik what to do now
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18:47 TheRedMoodWin Hello :)
18:48 rubenwardy ie: in the default mod, cloud is defined with the group "immortal", which makes it, err, immortal, indestructable
18:51 Octupus http://pastebin.com/A6sMftMv
18:51 Octupus some1 review that and tell me if it wud work
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18:53 TheRedMoodWin There are }) in the top
18:53 TheRedMoodWin is that a pase mistake or?
18:54 Octupus paste mistake
18:54 TheRedMoodWin okey
18:54 Octupus will that work?
18:54 TheRedMoodWin From what I can see yes...
18:54 TheRedMoodWin I have not being doing this for long
18:55 Octupus ok thanks
19:02 Octupus http://pastebin.com/XtBfUgRD
19:02 Octupus ^some1 review that for me please
19:02 Octupus and see if it is correct
19:03 TheRedMoodWin Octupus A tips is to write the code and test it with the game. Ask for reviews if you are completly done or if something doesn't work. ;)
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19:04 Octupus im testing in the game now
19:04 TheRedMoodWin Good :)
19:04 _2cool4me4_ New video going up soon! ^.^
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19:05 Octupus hmm'
19:07 TheRedMoodWin Nice!
19:07 TheRedMoodWin :D
19:07 Octupus hmmm i cant seem to get the mod to work
19:07 TheRedMoodWin Just started on a collection of server side autorities.
19:07 Octupus well to make them diggable
19:07 TheRedMoodWin utilities*
19:14 _2cool4me4_ Guess what my video will be of...
19:14 TheRedMoodWin Cats
19:14 _2cool4me4_ uhh.. no
19:15 TheRedMoodWin http://gifsound.com/?gif=http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj7e34Tgt11qhy6c9o1_400.gif&amp;sound=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWa-rWSsoZA
19:15 TheRedMoodWin Well mine is :)
19:15 _2cool4me4_ It involves Minetest
19:15 TheRedMoodWin damn
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19:15 TheRedMoodWin I would never have guessed that :)
19:15 _2cool4me4_ so continue guessing
19:16 TheRedMoodWin What do you think of my video?
19:16 _2cool4me4_ uhhhh
19:18 _2cool4me4_ It's interesting... I think
19:22 TheRedMoodWin 5 hours and 44 minutes in
19:22 TheRedMoodWin And it still just as beautiful
19:23 _2cool4me4_ Neko isn't here...
19:25 _2cool4me4_ 95%
19:30 _2cool4me4_ I hate not being able to upload custom thumbnails...
19:38 _2cool4me4_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-NlXo-Mxw
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19:52 TheRedMoodWin one function down :)
19:52 TheRedMoodWin A basic /list function
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20:46 PilzAdam bye
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21:00 _2cool4me4_ It's too bad Minetest can't generate caves...
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21:07 OldCoder JangoFett154, wb
21:07 FreeFull _2cool4me4_: What do you mean
21:07 FreeFull You mean ravines?
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21:18 mrtux There's a problem with minetest for windows
21:18 mrtux it consumes way too much memory
21:18 mrtux and crashes a lot
21:19 OldCoder Do we know about the memory for sure?
21:19 mrtux idk
21:19 mrtux it makes my computer lag to death
21:19 mrtux but when i play minecraft
21:19 mrtux it works perfectly fine
21:19 mrtux hardly any lag
21:19 OldCoder anybody comment?
21:20 mrtux 0.4.1 was quite stable
21:20 VanessaE afternoon all.
21:20 TheRedMoodWin Hello
21:20 TheRedMoodWin Did anyone see the game Carlsen played today? It was really a power show.
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21:24 mrtux hexchat just crashed after minetest crashed
21:28 TheRedMoodWin There
21:28 TheRedMoodWin Now i have motd
21:28 TheRedMoodWin death messages
21:29 TheRedMoodWin list
21:29 TheRedMoodWin hmm
21:29 TheRedMoodWin Now just to add more stuff :D
21:34 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, what are you doing? Sounds good
21:34 Jordach_ VanessaE, hey
21:34 VanessaE hi
21:34 OldCoder VanessaE, Jordach_ hi
21:35 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder I was looking around on the forums
21:35 OldCoder I need to go eat soon. I will cycle the worlds later. Does anybody need anything? I will be AFK for a couple of hours.
21:35 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, go on
21:35 Jordach yay
21:35 OldCoder yay? say i pray why yay
21:35 TheRedMoodWin OldCoderAnd saw that no one really had any server side utilitys
21:35 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I am writing them
21:35 OldCoder They are needed
21:35 TheRedMoodWin So i decided that I could try
21:36 TheRedMoodWin Ohh
21:36 TheRedMoodWin I am sure yours will be much better than mine :)
21:36 TheRedMoodWin I started today, and I've just gotte naround to having MOTDS And so on
21:36 TheRedMoodWin But I am aiming at high configurability
21:36 TheRedMoodWin So all the messages are going to be variables in an config file
21:36 TheRedMoodWin I though of finding a server owner who was willing to try them out at a later stage
21:37 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder https://github.com/TheRedMood/redsand
21:37 OldCoder Reviewing
21:37 TheRedMoodWin Just pushed the changes up to github :)
21:37 OldCoder Hold on
21:37 TheRedMoodWin I have never touched lua before
21:37 OldCoder I will download and examine
21:37 OldCoder Right now
21:37 TheRedMoodWin Oh.
21:37 TheRedMoodWin Can't you do it on github?
21:37 OldCoder Hmm?
21:37 Jordach bloody hell!! two subscribers in 10 mins http://i.imgur.com/DUuze.png
21:38 OldCoder I just did
21:38 OldCoder Jordach, ok
21:38 TheRedMoodWin Well it is not really worth a download, sir/mis.
21:38 VanessaE well I know anything I make is always worth a download ;)
21:39 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, we shall see!
21:39 TheRedMoodWin I just found the API really good, so I thought that I could give it a shot. I really love the idea behind minetest. Open source is so tasty :)
21:39 Jordach VanessaE, textures...nix
21:39 OldCoder Jordach, I am using some of hers now
21:39 OldCoder Plus dokutest
21:39 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder Are there any formatting rules for lua? I would like to know of that if it is
21:39 TheRedMoodWin Need to note down that...
21:40 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, I take it that the sufix would be mis then?
21:40 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I have my own style. I will post mods in the future and you can review. For now, hold on. I am checking your mod.
21:40 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: in my case, Mrs. actually :-)
21:40 _2cool4me4_ so did you guys see my new video?
21:41 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE Let me not that down, Mrs.
21:41 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: no formatting rules really no, but it's common to just hit tab to indent and to line up closing braces with the first char of the line that opened one..
21:41 VanessaE (ditto for 'end' on loops, functions, etc)
21:41 VanessaE else it's really up to you
21:42 _2cool4me4_ http://youtu.be/3c-NlXo-Mxw
21:42 TheRedMoodWin Okey. Coming from some python I really recent that
21:42 VanessaE but if you wanted to you could use one space, or 50, or some obscure mix of spaces and tabs if it suits your fancy :-)
21:43 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, we will try your mod temporarily
21:43 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder any thing uet?
21:43 OldCoder On all the worlds in my nexus
21:43 TheRedMoodWin What?
21:43 TheRedMoodWin O_O
21:43 OldCoder Being installed shortly
21:43 TheRedMoodWin Wait a secound......
21:43 OldCoder A few minutes
21:43 OldCoder Four updates are coming
21:43 OldCoder :-)
21:43 TheRedMoodWin What do you mean?
21:44 TheRedMoodWin Are you a server owner?
21:44 VanessaE hahaha
21:44 VanessaE ppf....mmmhhh......>>>BAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAH
21:44 TheRedMoodWin O_o
21:44 TheRedMoodWin May I ask what is so funny, Mrs?
21:44 VanessaE he runs like 20 of them or something :-)
21:44 TheRedMoodWin Well that is, wow.
21:44 TheRedMoodWin Hosted your self or?
21:45 VanessaE (actually 10 or 11 now isn't it?)
21:45 TheRedMoodWin In that case wat distro, sir?
21:45 TheRedMoodWin I use slackware for my homebox
21:45 TheRedMoodWin But the poor distro coulden't compile minetest :(
21:45 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I have a Linux distro and 15 MT worlds
21:45 OldCoder It will compile
21:45 OldCoder Needs nudging
21:45 * TheRedMoodWin is tucking the bed for his slackware box.
21:46 VanessaE slackware?  *shudder*
21:46 TheRedMoodWin But
21:46 TheRedMoodWin What did you mean by updates?
21:46 * VanessaE <- Xubuntu.
21:46 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I am busy and will Twitter and announce here too
21:46 OldCoder Preparing updates
21:46 OldCoder 15 minutes
21:46 OldCoder I need to check things
21:46 TheRedMoodWin o.o
21:46 TheRedMoodWin I get nothing of what you are saying right now..
21:46 TheRedMoodWin I am really sorry, sir.
21:47 TheRedMoodWin Are you going to update my code or your servers?
21:47 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, Your code goes into 15 worlds in a few minutes
21:47 OldCoder For testing
21:47 OldCoder
21:47 TheRedMoodWin And also if you are planing to use my mod, I would also be really pleased if you could give me suggestions
21:47 TheRedMoodWin O_O
21:48 TheRedMoodWin Thank you so much
21:48 OldCoder Updates will include VanessaE flowers, PilzAdam farming plus, cornernote Town Text, and TheRedMoodWin new mod
21:48 TheRedMoodWin please
21:48 TheRedMoodWin Its TheRedMood
21:48 TheRedMoodWin Win is because im not on my gentoo box
21:48 TheRedMoodWin And the mod name is redsand
21:49 TheRedMoodWin If you have any suggestions or requests please tell me.
21:49 VanessaE gentoo?  -funroll_loops -O23 -Dracing_stripes -Dtype_r_sticker -Dsomeother_damn_thing
21:49 VanessaE ;)
21:50 OldCoder TheRedMoodW k
21:50 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, people will review
21:50 Lumpio- TheRedMoodWin: ...why not permanently run a client on your gentoes box
21:51 Lumpio- Then you won't need alternate nicks
21:51 TheRedMoodWin I do
21:51 TheRedMoodWin I have a tmux session
21:51 TheRedMoodWin Give me a secound
21:51 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down
21:51 Lumpio- So why would you have separate nicks
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21:51 TheRedMood Hello
21:51 TheRedMood Because this is on the slackware box
21:51 TheRedMood And that is my home server.
21:52 OldCoder U.S. worlds being backed up
21:52 TheRedMood IT keeps logs for me and so on, but having ssh open is sometimes a bad idea
21:52 TheRedMood Old code wait
21:52 TheRedMood I need to do something with one of the files
21:52 OldCoder Go ahead
21:52 OldCoder I can update every world quickly
21:53 OldCoder VanessaE, your flowers will update with the rest
21:53 VanessaE ok
21:53 OldCoder I will leave in 15 minutes after update
21:53 VanessaE I toned down how much the seaweed grows and under what conditions
21:53 OldCoder I request people try Town Test Farming Plus Flowers and Red Sand
21:53 OldCoder to test
21:53 OldCoder before I go
21:53 envoyxiphos What Happend Old?
21:53 OldCoder updates
21:53 envoyxiphos I was logging everything.
21:53 OldCoder Sorry
21:53 OldCoder Please forgive me
21:53 OldCoder I must go eat
21:53 envoyxiphos here I will copy/paste what i have so far to you
21:54 OldCoder No need
21:54 envoyxiphos ?
21:54 envoyxiphos y?
21:54 OldCoder You were chatting correct?
21:54 envoyxiphos yes
21:54 OldCoder I have it in the logs if you were
21:54 envoyxiphos No
21:54 OldCoder I have it all
21:54 TheRedMoodWin Okey
21:54 OldCoder Oh?
21:54 envoyxiphos I want to show you
21:54 OldCoder Sure
21:54 OldCoder I want to as well
21:54 OldCoder ATM is not good
21:54 OldCoder Wrist is not well
21:54 envoyxiphos watch PM.
21:54 OldCoder And I must eat
21:54 OldCoder O.K.
21:54 TheRedMoodWin There
21:54 TheRedMoodWin Now pull again
21:54 TheRedMoodWin And it should be fine
21:54 OldCoder All set?
21:55 OldCoder k
21:56 TheRedMoodWin Yes
21:56 TheRedMoodWin pul now
21:56 TheRedMoodWin Sorry, there was a debugging function in the code
21:56 TheRedMoodWin Which I needed to get rid of
21:56 OldCoder TheRedMood, suggestion: add a file named depends.txt which contains the line defaualt
21:56 OldCoder Excuse me
21:56 OldCoder default
21:56 OldCoder
21:56 TheRedMoodWin yes
21:58 TheRedMoodWin okey
21:58 TheRedMoodWin pushing now
21:59 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, done?
21:59 TheRedMoodWin no
22:00 TheRedMoodWin git is hating on me
22:00 TheRedMoodWin give me 2 min
22:00 RealBadAngel TheRedMood, why server status command is called with "sand"?
22:01 TheRedMoodWin there
22:01 TheRedMoodWin Yeah
22:01 TheRedMoodWin That is the command that was removed
22:01 RealBadAngel seen the code, quite useful
22:01 TheRedMoodWin thanks
22:01 TheRedMoodWin I will work more on it tommorow
22:01 RealBadAngel but was wondering bout meaning of "sand"
22:02 TheRedMoodWin that isthe comand that is removed
22:02 TheRedMoodWin the meaning of sand in the name
22:02 TheRedMoodWin RedSand
22:02 TheRedMoodWin Is my name
22:02 TheRedMoodWin Red
22:02 RealBadAngel ah so
22:02 TheRedMoodWin And sand, tiny pieces that fits together
22:02 TheRedMoodWin But no big mountians
22:02 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder done now.
22:02 OldCoder Yes
22:03 TheRedMoodWin What is your twitter?
22:03 OldCoder BoldCoder
22:03 RealBadAngel ok, i was missing somethin like "list"
22:03 OldCoder Hold on
22:04 TheRedMoodWin Yes?
22:04 TheRedMoodWin I really need to go now
22:05 TheRedMoodWin okey I am going now
22:05 TheRedMoodWin ill give you 10 more min OldCoder
22:05 OldCoder Wait
22:05 TheRedMoodWin okey
22:06 OldCoder Folks his mod is crashing and I think it's this line
22:06 OldCoder dofile("../mods/minetest/redsand/conf.lua")
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22:06 OldCoder I suspect it needs to be
22:06 OldCoder dofile("conf.lua")
22:06 OldCoder Is this correct?
22:06 TheRedMoodWin no
22:06 TheRedMoodWin wait
22:06 OldCoder Patching on this end
22:06 TheRedMoodWin Are you running it standalone?
22:06 OldCoder envoyxiphos, sorry about the wait
22:06 TheRedMoodWin yeah
22:06 OldCoder No; on the server side
22:06 TheRedMoodWin then it needs to be patched
22:06 VanessaE dofile(minetest.get_modpath("modname").."/filename.lua")
22:07 TheRedMoodWin I will patch that right now
22:07 OldCoder VanessaE, Not just the line I said hen?
22:07 OldCoder k
22:07 OldCoder Waiting
22:07 VanessaE where modname is the name of the mod that's running the dofile command, e.g. homedecor.
22:07 envoyxiphos I still cannot acces eaither servers. OldCoder
22:07 OldCoder envoyxiphos, see above
22:07 OldCoder I added his mod
22:07 OldCoder Must patch it or remove it now
22:07 OldCoder He is patching
22:07 OldCoder Will be just a minute hopefully
22:07 OldCoder envoyxiphos, For major changes a debug server will be used
22:08 OldCoder This is a minor one
22:08 VanessaE (I use lines of that form to pull other .lua files into init.lua at runtime, so I can keep my mods' code somewhat organized)
22:08 envoyxiphos VanessaE's?
22:08 OldCoder envoyxiphos, No TheRedMood
22:08 envoyxiphos What is his mod?
22:08 TheRedMoodWin Try now
22:08 TheRedMoodWin I am so soryr
22:09 TheRedMoodWin as i said it is only 3 hours old.
22:09 OldCoder :-)
22:09 TheRedMoodWin And thanks alot, Mrs!
22:09 TheRedMoodWin a lot*
22:09 VanessaE you're welcome :-)
22:09 envoyxiphos What does his mod do?
22:09 OldCoder RealBadAngel will show you
22:09 TheRedMoodWin It is going to be a collection of server utilites
22:09 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds
22:10 TheRedMoodWin And it also seems it is going to be tailored for OldCoder :)
22:10 * OldCoder shrugs
22:10 OldCoder Not for me
22:10 OldCoder For standard games
22:10 OldCoder Worlds restarted
22:10 envoyxiphos brb Gonna eat lunch be back in 15
22:10 TheRedMoodWin Yes,
22:10 OldCoder envoyxiphos, They should be up now
22:10 OldCoder Will somebody connect to a world and test his mod?
22:10 OldCoder
22:10 TheRedMoodWin But you are going to be one of the main income of requests
22:10 TheRedMoodWin I can try
22:10 TheRedMoodWin give me the ip
22:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will wait to update Europe until tonight
22:10 OldCoder TheRedMood, one moment
22:11 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
22:11 OldCoder Choose one of those worlds
22:12 TheRedMoodWin joining now
22:12 OldCoder Which world?
22:12 envoyxiphos -!- Server Welcome envoyxiphos. This Is The Default MOTD????
22:12 OldCoder No
22:12 TheRedMoodWin Yes
22:12 envoyxiphos what does that mean?
22:12 TheRedMoodWin That is my mod
22:12 OldCoder We will fix it
22:12 TheRedMoodWin oldCoder
22:12 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin
22:12 TheRedMoodWin to change it go into conf.lua
22:12 OldCoder
22:12 OldCoder Which world?
22:12 TheRedMoodWin All of them
22:12 OldCoder Why put it there instead of Conf file?
22:12 TheRedMoodWin The motd message is stored there
22:13 TheRedMoodWin conf.lua is the configuration file
22:13 TheRedMoodWin BUT I NEED TO GO NOW!
22:13 TheRedMoodWin :D
22:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I prefer to have MOD in the server conf file
22:13 OldCoder Good bye
22:13 TheRedMoodWin we can do that
22:13 OldCoder envoyxiphos, I will patch out that part later
22:13 TheRedMoodWin But please i need to sleep now
22:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, good night
22:13 TheRedMoodWin you can send me a mail of all the things you want
22:13 TheRedMoodWin to
22:13 OldCoder Somebody tell me... Where is his MOTD appearing?
22:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, good night
22:13 TheRedMoodWin teodor_spaeren@lavabit.com
22:13 TheRedMoodWin When they join
22:13 OldCoder C U
22:14 TheRedMoodWin Oldcoder
22:14 OldCoder Good night
22:14 TheRedMoodWin In the redsand folder
22:14 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I need to patch that out
22:14 TheRedMoodWin There is a file named conf.lua
22:14 OldCoder Each world
22:14 OldCoder Has a different MOTD potentially
22:14 OldCoder So one mod
22:14 OldCoder Cannot set them all
22:14 OldCoder But good night
22:14 TheRedMoodWin I know x3
22:14 TheRedMoodWin I was trying to tell you have to stop it
22:14 OldCoder Go on
22:15 TheRedMoodWin Go into redsand.lua
22:15 TheRedMoodWin and under it there is an event section
22:15 TheRedMoodWin you should see it
22:15 TheRedMoodWin just remove the minetest.register_playerjoin
22:15 TheRedMoodWin part.
22:16 OldCoder Good night
22:16 TheRedMoodWin I will add options to disable them in the config file tommorow
22:16 OldCoder I will address this later
22:16 TheRedMoodWin See ya
22:16 OldCoder k
22:16 OldCoder See you
22:16 OldCoder ty
22:17 LAD joined #minetest
22:17 OldCoder LAD, wb
22:18 LAD hia
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22:22 Jordach aww yeah
22:23 Jordach classic ps one games
22:26 TheRedMoodWin I am going now
22:27 TheRedMoodWin I just want to say thank you to OldCoder
22:27 TheRedMoodWin And Mrs.
22:27 TheRedMoodWin And I also want to say that I will add a lot more options to the conf file tommorow
22:27 TheRedMoodWin So that the MOTD problem is gone
22:27 TheRedMoodWin Thats it for me today
22:27 TheRedMoodWin For real this time :)
22:28 OldCoder He
22:28 OldCoder Hello
22:28 OldCoder and goodbye
22:28 TheRedMoodWin But does that sound okey?
22:28 OldCoder Sure!
22:28 OldCoder Good night
22:28 TheRedMoodWin Thanks :)
22:28 OldCoder Sleep tight
22:28 TheRedMoodWin you to.
22:28 OldCoder Etc.
22:29 anunakki hey guys
22:29 OldCoder anunakki, howdyd
22:29 OldCoder *howdy
22:29 anunakki anyone got a good reference for crafting/smelting etc.. because i mean the basics are simple, and a little beyond those, but creating stuff like, telepads, building chests, water supply etc.
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22:45 RealBadAngel anunakki: cornernotes wiki pages
22:45 anunakki ty
22:45 RealBadAngel hes makin wikis for different mods
22:46 anunakki also
22:46 anunakki how long does it usuallyt ake a building chest to finish?
22:46 RealBadAngel https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest
22:46 RealBadAngel depends on the size of the build
22:47 anunakki ah, ok, because i've set up two and they're taking forever
22:47 anunakki and barely anything has been done
22:47 anunakki lol
22:47 RealBadAngel code is not yet perfect
22:47 anunakki yea
22:47 RealBadAngel hes workin on the issues
22:48 RealBadAngel ive found temporary solution if the worker stops
22:48 RealBadAngel go away, so the blocks with worker can unload
22:48 RealBadAngel go back, everythin should back to normal
22:49 RealBadAngel you can also try punching the chest before leavin to set it to inactive
22:49 RealBadAngel and when go back to active
22:50 RealBadAngel btw, givin apples to worker makes him move faster
22:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, anybody: No problems so far with latest updates? All right. I'm leaving for a couple of hours shortly.
22:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I'll update Europe tonight
22:54 OldCoder If the U.S. servers continue to work
22:54 RealBadAngel ok
22:57 Jordach uh oh
22:57 Jordach xchat is missing mscvrt90.dll
22:57 pskosinski Try HexChat. :P
22:58 Jordach pskosinski, same code base, (probably same compiler)
22:58 Jordach so no :)
23:00 pskosinski But freeeeee
23:03 OldCoder HexChat is good
23:04 OldCoder HexChat is XChat reborn
23:04 OldCoder http://hexchat.org/
23:04 OldCoder Try it
23:04 OldCoder <--- Likes HexChat
23:04 OldCoder Joooooooooin Uuuuuuuuuuuus
23:04 OldCoder
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23:16 * Jordach puts foot down
23:16 * Jordach then proceeds to crush a coke can on the side of my head
23:17 OldCoder Sounds like fun
23:17 Jordach OldCoder, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14
23:17 OldCoder Downloading for later
23:18 OldCoder What is this?
23:18 OldCoder Odd
23:18 OldCoder
23:18 * OldCoder will return later
23:21 Jordach NOPE!
23:21 Jordach night all
23:33 Octupus joined #minetest
23:33 Octupus Hi
23:36 NekoGloop joined #minetest
23:38 NekoGloop http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jd3ms4IcRxg oppan nightcore style!
23:39 OldCoder Octupus, Hey
23:40 OldCoder Octupus, Next time there will be two medals
23:40 Octupus Yes
23:40 Octupus Next week
23:40 OldCoder Very well
23:41 skully_ joined #minetest
23:41 skully_ oldcoder
23:41 OldCoder skully_, Hello
23:41 OldCoder skully_, I will try to PM
23:41 OldCoder skully_, Do you see another window or tab now?
23:42 skully_ no
23:42 OldCoder Then I will explain here as I am quite tired
23:42 OldCoder Hold on
23:42 OldCoder
23:42 skully_ no its working now
23:42 OldCoder Oh?
23:42 OldCoder Type something there
23:42 skully_ wait there is
23:58 JangoFett154 joined #minetest
23:58 VanessaE JangoFett154: tom was looking for you on redcrab:30401 earlier
23:59 JangoFett154 oh ok any idea what he wants?
23:59 * NekoGloop sets out a plate of pizza
23:59 JangoFett154 is he still on btw?
23:59 VanessaE nope, he just asked when you were last on...and he *just* signed off too\
23:59 JangoFett154 oh ok

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