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00:02 Octupus Any1 a linux link for a usb
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00:03 OldCoder anunakki, wb
00:03 OldCoder Octupus, Ubuntu and Mint will
00:03 OldCoder Octupus, try Puppy Linux
00:03 OldCoder Small and simple
00:03 Octupus ok
00:03 anunakki ty lol sorry bout that things got spicey between my girl and i and my laptop is on like a 45 minute inactivity sleep mode haha
00:03 Octupus puppy linux for usb download
00:04 OldCoder anunakki, PM when gcc build is done
00:04 OldCoder Or there is news
00:04 anunakki k
00:04 Octupus i dont know what to do XD
00:07 OldCoder Octupus, I can help you with that; but probably not today. It's already getting a bit late.
00:07 OldCoder Anybody else want to tackle a Puppy Linux USB install?
00:07 Octupus http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
00:07 Octupus im on that
00:08 OldCoder Yes
00:08 OldCoder Octupus, I can probably help with that tomorrow or the next day
00:10 Octupus i think i got it
00:10 OldCoder k
00:11 Octupus it says to look for an iso
00:11 Octupus do i create 1
00:11 * OldCoder laughs
00:11 OldCoder Octupus, would tomorrow be all right?
00:11 Octupus idk
00:11 Octupus XD
00:11 OldCoder Reviewing
00:12 OldCoder Did you download the Pen Drive Linux installer?
00:12 Octupus yes
00:12 Octupus im stuck at the iso part
00:12 OldCoder Select Ubuntu Desktop Edition from the dropdown list
00:13 OldCoder That should download an ISO file
00:13 OldCoder Did it?
00:13 Octupus 12.04?
00:13 OldCoder Yes
00:13 OldCoder That is Ubuntu
00:13 Octupus ok then
00:13 Octupus browse?
00:13 OldCoder ?
00:13 OldCoder Go on
00:14 Octupus it says select your ubuntu-12.04
00:14 Octupus *desktop*.iso
00:14 OldCoder Good
00:15 Octupus thats where i stuck
00:15 OldCoder How are you stuck?
00:15 Octupus idk what to click XD
00:15 OldCoder I hate GUIs
00:15 OldCoder Have I ever mentioned that?
00:15 OldCoder Hold on
00:15 Octupus i just put in my usb and name it as ubuntu
00:16 OldCoder Find the ISO and double click on its name
00:16 Octupus where wud i find that
00:16 OldCoder Octupus, I cannot comment unless I can see. Are you able to make a screenshot?
00:16 Octupus no :(
00:17 OldCoder I am sorry but I cannot see what you see. There should be a file to open the ISO file in the installer.
00:17 Octupus i dont see any
00:17 OldCoder If you cannot see it you must speak with somebody who does not hate GUIs.
00:17 OldCoder CLI is always better than GUI
00:17 OldCoder Except games
00:17 OldCoder Can you describe what you see?
00:18 Octupus Browse to your ubuntu-12.04*desktop*.iso  -->     (browse button)
00:18 OldCoder No; in the installer
00:18 OldCoder The installer should be a program
00:18 Octupus yes
00:18 Octupus i see the drop down thingy
00:18 Octupus the beowse thingy
00:18 Octupus *browse
00:18 Octupus and my usb
00:19 NakedFury update the main dokutest post and did a bump for the thread. tomorrow ill work on another mod and maybe one of the three: Light, High, Dark
00:19 OldCoder NakedFury, O.K. Have fun
00:19 Octupus it says look for an iso
00:19 OldCoder NakedFury, should be in all the worlds now
00:19 NakedFury ok
00:19 OldCoder Octupus, Yes. I know. But I cannot see what you see.
00:19 Octupus but idk where to frigging find it
00:20 OldCoder Neither do I.
00:20 OldCoder Octupus, Try Puppy Linux instead
00:20 Octupus http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
00:20 Octupus im there
00:20 OldCoder Reviewing
00:20 Octupus the first picture
00:21 OldCoder Oh...
00:21 Octupus the lond bar thing
00:21 OldCoder http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Uni-USB-Installer3.jpg
00:21 OldCoder Get to that
00:22 Octupus hmmm
00:22 Octupus SHit dis is hard
00:23 OldCoder It is a GUI
00:23 OldCoder It is supposed to be point and click
00:23 OldCoder <--- Hates GUIs
00:24 Octupus i still cant find it :(
00:24 mrtux Octupus, PM
00:24 mrtux OldCoder, I hate GUI's sometimes too
00:24 OldCoder Ha
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01:18 Octupus OldCoder,Did u code your own website
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01:27 anunakki hmm
01:27 anunakki how do i determine coordinates
01:27 anunakki on a map
01:27 anunakki for teleport pads
01:29 anunakki nvm
01:29 anunakki f6
01:29 anunakki f5
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01:38 Octupus some1 tell me if this wud work
01:40 Octupus minetest_register_node (Octu_blocks:Green_water)   (4,7,53)  (green_water:flowing)
01:40 Octupus wud that work?
01:44 Octupus HELLO
01:49 VanessaE hiall
01:49 Octupus hi vanessa
01:49 Octupus i wud like to make a mod just water blocks
01:49 Octupus green water yellow water red water
01:49 VanessaE couldn't tell you how, I've never used liquids.
01:49 VanessaE er modded them
01:50 Octupus can u show me to the block codes
01:50 Octupus the default block codes?
01:50 VanessaE I wouldn't know about them
01:50 VanessaE except that they're default:water_source and default:water_flowing or some such
01:51 Octupus yes but like to find the cods for the default blocks
01:51 Octupus 'like tree and wood and brick
01:51 VanessaE (so they're probably in minetest_game/mods/default/init.lua I guess
01:51 Octupus thank u
01:52 Octupus ok
01:52 Octupus easy code now :D
01:52 Octupus just need to change the registered names :D
01:53 VanessaE have fun
01:55 T_A_N_K is there a way to use your own textures and not server textures?
01:55 OldCoder Back
01:56 OldCoder Octupus, Got the USB working?
01:56 OldCoder VanessaE, I have minetest.org now
01:56 VanessaE tank; sure, any texture pack will override the server's textures.
01:56 Octupus nope
01:56 VanessaE OldCoder: cool
01:56 Octupus im coding atm coder
01:56 OldCoder Octupus, good
01:56 VanessaE T_A_N_K:  ^^
01:57 Octupus finish my code
01:57 Octupus now i just need to see if it works
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02:03 Octupus hmm can some1 review this for me
02:05 Octupus http://pastebin.com/5Ed4np2A
02:05 OldCoder R
02:06 Octupus ?
02:06 Octupus I
02:06 OldCoder Reviewing
02:06 Octupus ok
02:06 NekoGloop Seems good.
02:06 NekoGloop I would make it generate ore-like in water though.
02:06 Octupus but i get an init lua problem
02:06 OldCoder OctuWater
02:06 Octupus yes coder :D
02:06 Octupus its red water :D
02:06 OldCoder This is part of the file or the entire file?
02:07 NekoGloop The thing is wrong in the flowing one
02:07 Octupus ohhh
02:07 OldCoder Octupus, you will beat your goal
02:07 Octupus where exactly
02:07 Octupus which goal?
02:07 OldCoder Will know Lua long before Christmas
02:07 NekoGloop "octuwater:red_source" instead of "octuwater:redwater_source"
02:07 Octupus ohhhh
02:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, the textures are in and working. Thanks for your time earlier.
02:08 NekoGloop Good for you.
02:08 OldCoder ??
02:08 Octupus neko all of them say redwater
02:08 OldCoder No; good for NakedFury
02:08 NekoGloop Means i dont really care ^^
02:08 OldCoder NekoGloop, make more ores; we need them
02:08 OldCoder And people do like them
02:09 NekoGloop Octupus: liquid_alternative_source = "octuwater:redwater_source"
02:09 NekoGloop It needs that instead of what,s there.
02:09 NekoGloop s/,/'/
02:09 Octupus liquid_alternative_source = "OctuWater:redwater_source",
02:09 Octupus what need to be added
02:09 NekoGloop Look at the pastebin
02:10 Octupus ahh i see it
02:10 NekoGloop ^^
02:10 Octupus thanks neko
02:10 Octupus it said red_source
02:11 NekoGloop OldCoder: Arent there enough ores already?
02:11 Octupus make a boat mod then :D
02:11 NekoGloop What they need is a use.
02:12 Octupus neko i will post my problem
02:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, No. There are not enough ores. I wish more Gloopores in particular.
02:12 Octupus from the debug
02:12 Octupus it said it failed to run init.lua
02:12 NekoGloop Anything more specific?
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02:13 Octupus hmmm maybe the code was written wrng
02:14 Octupus OldCoder,i didnt write the whole code i just altered it a bit
02:15 Octupus from the default blocks
02:16 OldCoder It is a start
02:16 OldCoder We can practice basic Lu
02:16 OldCoder We can practice basic Lua
02:16 OldCoder Others will help
02:17 NekoGloop I did gloopblocks first, somethin simple.
02:17 NekoGloop Crafting killed me.
02:17 NekoGloop Who the hell decided lua tables needed commas anyway?
02:17 Octupus idk
02:18 Octupus hmmm my debug isnt openinng
02:19 NekoGloop Try closing minetest and try again
02:19 Octupus OldCoder,if i ran the code through codepad will it come out?
02:20 VanessaE OldCoder: pm..
02:20 * NekoGloop sets out a plate of apples
02:21 OldCoder
02:21 NekoGloop Something healthy this time! ^^
02:21 OldCoder Octupus, Only the basic code
02:21 OldCoder Octupus, not this because it is part of MT
02:21 OldCoder Which CodePad does not have
02:22 Octupus oh
02:22 Octupus so there is no way to test it
02:22 NekoGloop Its called play mt ^^
02:22 Octupus yes but my init files doesnt load properlt
02:22 Octupus properly
02:23 NekoGloop What does the cmd window spit out?
02:26 Octupus hmmmmm i wonder y my init files are working
02:27 Octupus 22:11:27: VERBOSE[main]: error_message = ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Users\Johnny\Desktop\minetest-0.4.3-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\OctuWater\init.lua
02:28 NekoGloop Higher.
02:28 VanessaE there's more.  pastebin the entire error section
02:28 Octupus ok
02:28 NekoGloop Above "========END OF ERROR FROM LUA========="
02:28 VanessaE but not here
02:28 VanessaE of course
02:29 Octupus http://pastebin.com/KsiL756s
02:30 NekoGloop You cant have capital letters in the modname
02:30 VanessaE Octupus: all lowercase only.
02:30 NekoGloop (I didnt know that xD)
02:30 Octupus XD *facepalm*
02:30 Octupus i feel so dumb
02:30 NekoGloop I thought that was just some kinda imposed rule.
02:31 NekoGloop Like the texture naming thingy.
02:31 VanessaE haha
02:31 Octupus i still got an error
02:32 NekoGloop You probably didnt rename the folder the mod is in.
02:32 Octupus i did
02:32 Octupus octuwater
02:32 NekoGloop Did you change init.lua?
02:32 Octupus is how i put it
02:32 Octupus all the capitals to lower
02:33 Octupus (0) (0)
02:33 Octupus no
02:33 NekoGloop What was the error?
02:33 OldCoder <Octupus> i feel so dumb
02:33 Octupus the same from last time
02:33 OldCoder You are like at the start
02:33 OldCoder Give it a little time
02:33 NekoGloop Did you save the file before trying to load it?
02:33 VanessaE foldername must exactly match the mod name in the init.lua, so octuwater and octuwater:green_flowing or whatever.
02:34 Octupus ohhh all octuwater with capitals must be lower
02:34 NekoGloop Yes.
02:34 VanessaE yep
02:34 Octupus ohhh
02:35 OldCoder This is why it won't work at CodePad
02:35 OldCoder CodePad doesn't have the rest to lock into that
02:35 NekoGloop Use notepad++
02:35 Octupus i have it
02:36 Octupus but im not sure how to use it
02:36 NekoGloop Notepad++?
02:36 Octupus yes
02:36 NekoGloop Simple.
02:36 NekoGloop Load up notepad++, then tell it to open the .lua file of your choice.
02:36 Octupus oh
02:37 NekoGloop I have mine set up so notepad++ is my default for .lua
02:37 Octupus DAMN
02:37 Octupus didnt work
02:37 OldCoder Octupus, Debug
02:37 OldCoder is a good word too
02:37 OldCoder You are now a Debugger
02:38 Octupus lolz
02:38 OldCoder VanessaE, my worlds have moved to the minetest.org domain
02:38 VanessaE cool
02:40 OldCoder VanessaE, there are more mods too. Update getting Twittered shortly.
02:40 VanessaE cool again. :-)
02:40 VanessaE did you grab the latest homedecor?  (yesterday evening)
02:42 Octupus http://pastebin.com/RDjfL3yX
02:42 NekoGloop I think i have the latest homedecor myself.
02:42 Octupus some1 tell me what i did wrong there
02:42 NekoGloop Did you make it depend on default?
02:42 Octupus yes
02:42 Octupus the original code is default
02:43 Octupus i just altered it a bit
02:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: latest has a windowless bedroom door.
02:43 Octupus cool
02:43 NekoGloop OH! OH! OH! I FOUND IT!!
02:43 Octupus found what
02:43 OldCoder ?
02:43 NekoGloop You need to add a line with }) before the register_alias
02:44 Octupus can u show me
02:44 NekoGloop At the end of line 44.
02:44 NekoGloop Add a new line.
02:44 NekoGloop Add }) to the new line
02:45 NekoGloop Test in minetest
02:45 Octupus ok
02:45 NekoGloop ???
02:45 NekoGloop Profit.
02:45 Octupus if it dont work :l
02:45 Octupus IT WILL WORK
02:45 NekoGloop If it dont work, we will make it work.
02:46 MiJyn hi
02:46 Octupus hi
02:46 Octupus neko it does have the {)
02:47 MiJyn })
02:47 Octupus })
02:47 MiJyn not {(
02:47 MiJyn oh
02:47 MiJyn xD
02:47 Octupus nvm
02:47 Phahrrgis so I got this > https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+sourcepub/2634196/+listing-archive-extra and I'm not sure where to put the mods
02:47 Octupus })minetest.register_alias("mapgen_water_source", "octuwater:redwater_source")
02:47 Octupus NekoGloop,^
02:48 NekoGloop Should work.
02:48 Octupus YAYAYAYAY
02:48 Octupus WE DID IT
02:48 Octupus WOOOT
02:48 Octupus :D
02:49 NekoGloop It was a learning experience for us both.
02:49 Octupus :D
02:49 NekoGloop I've never messed wih liquids before.
02:50 Octupus will some1 contribute to a red water image
02:50 NekoGloop Cant you just colorize the normal one?
02:50 Octupus true
02:50 Octupus hmmi cant seem to find any redwater
02:51 NekoGloop You need to colorize the default one ^^"
02:51 Octupus yes but i want redwater and regular water
02:51 NekoGloop You can do this.
02:51 Octupus how?
02:52 OldCoder By learning each step
02:52 NekoGloop Just open it in a image editor of your choice, colorize it to red, then save it in the octuwater/textures/ folder
02:52 Octupus :)
02:52 OldCoder And worrying about just that one step
02:52 OldCoder at a time
02:52 Octupus i already have a pic in there neko
02:53 NekoGloop Then use it? :P
02:53 Octupus ohhhhhh
02:53 Octupus i didnt resize the image
02:55 Octupus what do i save the picture as again
02:55 Octupus octuwater:redwater
02:55 Octupus or redwater
02:55 Octupus or red_water
02:55 VanessaE octuwater_redwater.png
02:55 VanessaE or so
02:56 Octupus ok
02:56 VanessaE whatever you want to call it as long as it's modname_objectname_variant.png  (where variant could be if you have multiple colors)
02:56 VanessaE so octuwater_water_red.png is even better
02:57 NekoGloop (That format makes texture maps simpler to make)
02:57 VanessaE (yes)
02:57 NekoGloop packs, not maps.
02:57 cornernote can i release a mod under 2 licenses ?
02:57 cornernote so that the terms of both are required to be met ?
02:57 VanessaE cornernote: sure, any licenses you want as long as the code you wrote complies with both
02:57 cornernote i want to add this license to my distros - http://murphy.cz/no-whining-license/
02:57 cornernote No Whining License
02:58 VanessaE (e.g. CC0 + WTFPL is good)
02:58 NekoGloop czech.
02:58 Octupus idk anything about licences
02:58 VanessaE my HDX texture pack is officially GFDL and unofficially WTFPL ;)
02:58 OldCoder Use CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 Unported
02:58 cornernote WTFPL means someone can use it for a commercial product, and also i think it doesnt protect the author
02:58 OldCoder Use CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 Unported
02:58 NekoGloop how in hell am i supposed to read that?
02:58 OldCoder If you wish protection
02:59 OldCoder Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial ShareAlike
02:59 Octupus hmm i might have to change the code again
02:59 Octupus to make the texture name octuwater_redwater
02:59 cornernote whats wrong with GPL ?
02:59 OldCoder cornernote, it is not about "wrong". it is about goals.
02:59 OldCoder Many licenses are good
03:00 OldCoder WTFPL
03:00 OldCoder The Batman License
03:00 cornernote i want my code to be free, forever, for everyone
03:00 VanessaE Octupus:  as long as it's modname_objectname.png at least.  modname_objectname_variation.png is better
03:00 NakedFury I wish minetest rotate the torch textures itself, not us having to do 3 different textures
03:00 OldCoder cornernote, totally open?
03:00 cornernote and i want credit for the work i did
03:00 cornernote yes, totally open
03:00 OldCoder cornernote, then you must use CC
03:00 OldCoder cornernote, if you want credit
03:00 cornernote why not GPL ?
03:00 OldCoder cornernote, you cannot ask for credit then
03:00 Octupus so is octuwater_redwater good
03:00 VanessaE cornernote: CC-BY-SA is best for that
03:00 OldCoder Yes
03:00 VanessaE Octupus: that's fine.  octuwater_water_red.png is best
03:00 OldCoder CC BY-SA Unported 3.0
03:00 Octupus ok
03:00 OldCoder I recommend
03:01 OldCoder CC BY-NC-SA Unported 3.0
03:01 OldCoder For those who wish to prevent commercial use
03:02 cornernote i dont want to prevent commercial use
03:02 cornernote just prevent closed source commercial use
03:03 NekoGloop Like the opposite of apple?
03:04 cornernote macs are bsd based, i dont know anything about the bsd license
03:04 NekoGloop I mean everything else they make.
03:04 Octupus i changed it to creative to see if i did it right
03:05 NekoGloop Pretty much everything they make, you can get thrown in jail for releasing the material the casing is made from.
03:05 cornernote yes, but they make it, so thats fine
03:05 Octupus lalalalalala BOOM it worked
03:05 cornernote usually its apple that is leading, and others follow
03:05 Octupus :D
03:05 OldCoder Octupus, with no fuss
03:05 OldCoder You have coded
03:05 OldCoder This was forboded
03:05 OldCoder By your determination
03:05 OldCoder Soon MT will be
03:05 OldCoder You see
03:05 Octupus with the help of nekogloop and vannesae
03:05 OldCoder An Octupus Nation
03:05 OldCoder
03:05 VanessaE :)
03:05 OldCoder Of course
03:06 Octupus Thanks Guys
03:06 * OldCoder has a meeting
03:06 Octupus ok time to upload this mod
03:06 OldCoder Congratulations on Mod
03:06 OldCoder
03:06 Octupus Thanks Coder
03:06 Octupus there is going to be another tonight
03:06 cornernote OC - i am reading more about GPL now - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyUseGPL
03:06 cornernote so i assume if someone makes my mod better, it must be free
03:07 Octupus guys whos up for greenwater?
03:07 cornernote but if someone makes a whole new game and uses my mod, it doesnt have to be free
03:07 NekoGloop Mossy water.
03:07 Octupus :D
03:07 Octupus XD
03:07 Octupus i just flooded the whole area with the redwater
03:08 Octupus insted of octuwater_water_green
03:09 Octupus it will be octuwater_water_moss
03:09 NekoGloop octuwater:water_moss
03:09 Octupus yep
03:09 cornernote OC, no i am wrong -- A system incorporating a GPL-covered program is an extended version of that program. The GPL says that any extended version of the program must be released under the GPL if it is released at all.
03:09 cornernote However, in many cases you can distribute the GPL-covered software alongside your proprietary system. To do this validly, you must make sure that the free and non-free programs communicate at arms length, that they are not combined in a way that would make them effectively a single program.
03:10 NekoGloop (Linespam is linespam, no matter how you square it)
03:10 Octupus neko isnt it octuwater:redwater
03:11 NekoGloop I have no idea.
03:11 VanessaE NekoGloop: this is minetest we're talking about - should the question be whether he *cubes* it? ;-)
03:11 NekoGloop You named it, not me.
03:11 Octupus true true
03:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^node
03:11 * NekoGloop runs
03:11 VanessaE heh
03:12 NekoGloop To teh powah of teh node!!!!
03:12 NekoGloop (Number expected, got table)
03:12 NekoGloop FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-----
03:12 VanessaE lol
03:12 NekoGloop Actually i think nodedefs are userdata
03:13 NekoGloop Userdata is basically read-only tables.
03:18 Octupus i finished moss water
03:18 Octupus i need a texture for it now
03:18 NekoGloop Sweet.
03:20 Octupus damn didnt work
03:20 Octupus hmm let me review
03:21 NekoGloop How does one fail at making an image work? xD
03:21 NakedFury are any of the default items no longer used?
03:22 NakedFury like tnt
03:22 NakedFury scorched stuff?
03:22 NakedFury furance_fire_bg anf furnace_fire_fg?
03:22 NekoGloop Um... Mossycobble is not used unless you have a mod, schorched stuff no, rats no, cooked rats no, tnt no, and o think that's it.
03:22 NekoGloop There's a mod that adds tnt thou
03:23 NakedFury but in default is no longer used
03:23 NakedFury ?
03:23 NekoGloop And those two images are used for the fire in the furnace GUI.
03:23 NekoGloop Yes.
03:23 NakedFury I never see tnt in creative
03:23 NakedFury footsteps?
03:23 NekoGloop Because it doesnt exist.
03:24 Octupus no the code dummy
03:24 NekoGloop Footsteps are in skyblock
03:24 Octupus http://pastebin.com/jwnjT9XM
03:24 NakedFury this game has too many innecesary textures
03:24 Octupus NekoGloop,^
03:24 Octupus review please
03:25 Octupus does different item item go into a different folder?
03:26 NekoGloop ?
03:26 Octupus review thatplease
03:26 Octupus tel me if there is any errors
03:28 cornernote line 1 shouldnt start with closing brackets
03:29 cornernote and line 45, although it doesnt matter, would look nicer on its own line
03:31 Octupus cornernote line1
03:31 Octupus it doesnt start with anything right
03:32 cornernote it shouldnt
03:32 cornernote you should remove the })
03:32 Octupus ok
03:32 Octupus other than that is everything good
03:37 Octupus NekoGloop,any water suggestions ?
03:37 NekoGloop Uh...
03:38 Octupus im doing 1 more then release
03:38 NekoGloop Do we even need the water you already gave us? O.o
03:38 Octupus SO
03:38 Octupus its my first mod dont be judging
03:39 NekoGloop I was gonna make pure water for my gamemode which i discontinued.
03:41 OldCoder <NakedFury> this game has too many innecesary textures
03:41 OldCoder This is why you are creating more :p
03:41 OldCoder I happen to like textures though
03:42 NakedFury I mean 3 torch textures? really?
03:42 Octupus coder i made a new water :)
03:42 OldCoder Octupus, I C
03:42 OldCoder It sounds very refreshing
03:42 Octupus i got 2 now
03:42 OldCoder I shall have to try it
03:42 OldCoder You should bottle it
03:43 OldCoder In virtual bottles
03:43 OldCoder and sell for bitcoins
03:43 OldCoder
03:43 NekoGloop I would have made pure water via a filter of some kind, thus replacing the filter with a "used filter" that when "cleaned" in the craftgrid gives the filter and a dirt block.
03:45 Octupus im talking with cornernote
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03:46 Octupus hi sascha
03:46 Octupus :)
03:49 Octupus NekoGloop,how do u make the give thing
03:49 NekoGloop Its based on the name of the node.
03:49 NekoGloop Which is what you dont put in the {} when making a node.
03:50 Octupus ?
03:50 NakedFury what cant the game rotate 1 torch texture as neccesary?
03:50 NekoGloop NakedFury: Because this isnt mineshit.
03:51 NakedFury well mineshit has it better here
03:51 NakedFury 1 torch texture instead of 3
03:51 NakedFury less work
03:51 NakedFury much less
03:51 NekoGloop But you cant custom what the torch looks like then.
03:51 Octupus neko
03:51 NekoGloop squiddy.
03:51 Octupus i want to make the give code so ppl can do /giveme octuwater:redwater
03:51 VanessaE exactly, if it just rotated one texture, I couldn't make flames rise from an upside down (ceiling) torch
03:51 NekoGloop Dude. That's automatic.
03:52 Octupus y cant i get it
03:52 NekoGloop Because you're doing it wrong!
03:52 NakedFury there would be no upside down torch
03:52 NakedFury its weird anyway
03:52 Octupus how to do it then
03:52 NekoGloop /giveme octuwater:water_red_source
03:52 VanessaE oh no.  they're too useful, NF.
03:52 NakedFury weird
03:52 NekoGloop Cool story bro.
03:53 Octupus ddint work neko
03:53 NekoGloop You wrote the goddamn code, not me.
03:53 NekoGloop What did you call the goddamn node?
03:53 Octupus octuwater:redwater
03:54 NekoGloop You couldnt have called both of them the same thing.
03:54 Octupus the png was
03:54 Octupus octuwater_water_red
03:54 NekoGloop DOES THE FUCKING PNG FILE MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH THE NAME OF THE FUCKING NODE?! GODDAMN, PEOPLE ARE FUCKING MORONS....
03:54 Octupus XD
03:55 Octupus XD
03:55 Octupus XD
03:57 Octupus hmmmm
03:57 hmmmm hmmmmm
03:57 hmmmm that's the third time you highlighted me today
03:57 Octupus lolz
03:57 Octupus srry
03:57 Octupus il make sure to do 5 next time
03:57 NekoGloop I suggest a less generic name.
03:58 Octupus like?
03:58 NekoGloop Not you.
03:58 NakedFury hm man you need another nick or something other than hm
03:58 Octupus il just leave it be
03:59 Octupus until i figure out this give thingy
03:59 Octupus last water of the day
04:08 Octupus Coder
04:09 Octupus there will be a new mod in a couple of mins for the servers
04:10 Octupus YAY i found the give :D
04:14 Octupus OldCoder,http://www.mediafire.com/?b6vdl5aavrjldtm
04:15 Octupus something for the servers :D
04:18 Octupus msg VanessaE are u there
04:18 VanessaE no, I'm there -------->
04:18 Octupus lolz
04:18 Octupus can u help me post a topic on the forum
04:18 VanessaE not right now - just go post :-)
04:19 Octupus i cant
04:19 VanessaE why>
04:19 VanessaE ?
04:19 Octupus Sorry! no permission to post new topics
04:19 VanessaE where are you tryign to post at?
04:19 Octupus mod releases
04:19 VanessaE ou can't.
04:19 VanessaE you can only post in Modding General
04:19 Octupus y
04:20 VanessaE someone else will move your topic if it fits the forum's criteria
04:20 VanessaE that's the rules for Mod Releases
04:20 VanessaE otherwise just anyone could post whatever there.
04:20 Octupus ohhh
04:20 VanessaE that section is moderated.
04:24 NekoGloop Meow,
04:26 Octupus ok finished the link
04:26 Octupus and the topic
04:26 Octupus neko wud u care to test it ?
04:30 NekoGloop iPad isnt good for mod testing
04:31 Octupus oh lolz
04:31 Octupus i made yellow water
04:31 Octupus after moss water
04:33 Phahrrgis can I drink it?
04:33 Phahrrgis the yellow water
04:34 Octupus :l
04:34 Octupus if u want lemonade then yes
04:34 Octupus with some blue berries
04:34 Octupus hmm bllue berries isnt a bad mod
04:34 VanessaE bedtime for me..  night all
04:35 Octupus night
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04:54 hmmmm ugh
04:55 hmmmm can i nuke every x86 computer created before 2005?
04:56 hmmmm i can optimize gradientMap2D to be around 3 times faster by using fisttp
04:56 hmmmm well, my version of noise_gradient2d()
04:56 Octupus ?
05:00 NakedFury if you mean use techniques that need dual processors or 64 bit OS then yes use it.
05:02 hmmmm lol
05:02 hmmmm it's not that simple :)
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06:10 M13_ hello
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06:30 * CTMN is sleeping
06:34 CTMN Did anyone build a plane using mesecons?
06:47 CTMN Is any human online?
06:49 hmmmm well that sucked - i thought i would be able to get away with a single n-sized intermediate buffer for a 2d map so i don't have to recalculate noise for the v01 and v11 every new y
06:50 hmmmm how would i store the v11s that i already calced in the previous line? =/
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06:50 hmmmm if it worked out my original way, i'd be able to do an n sized intermediary for 2d, and an (n^2 + n)-sized for 3d
06:51 hmmmm turns out i'm going to have to calculate the entire lattice beforehand (so that's n^2 space for 2d, and n^3 space for 3d)
06:51 hmmmm which means lots of cache misses and a performance hit in addition to the obvious added space complexity
06:52 hmmmm but this is good because it can make the icache more coherent and easier to optimize for sse/neon
06:54 Calinou hmmmm should work at intel
06:55 hmmmm lol.  don't mind me, i talk out loud to think
06:56 hmmmm as an added bonus, i'll have to make the noise lattice's size equal to the least spread value possible
06:58 hmmmm which means it's not just n^2, but rather ((sx * step_x) * 2^(num_octaves))^2
06:58 hmmmm very frustrating, just when i think i found the ideal solution, i realize something else is foobar and not very ideal
07:19 cornernote_ there are so many "im leaving" threads in the forums
07:19 cornernote_ we need a section for them
07:19 cornernote_ the "im leaving" section
07:37 Calinou lol
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08:06 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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08:15 VanessaE hi
08:15 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
08:16 PilzAdam VanessaE, you want that the font in the signs mod is bigger?
08:16 VanessaE I was thinking two or three font sizes that could be switched when the text is created
08:16 VanessaE but only one font at a time of course
08:17 PilzAdam can you create the textures for a bigger font?
08:17 VanessaE I might be convinced to do that though not right now of course
08:17 PilzAdam also new background images would be nice
08:18 PilzAdam i will give my best to do this font size code
08:19 VanessaE thanks :-)
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08:53 VanessaE hey Calinou.
08:53 Calinou back
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09:00 Jordach good <morning/afternoon/evening/night?>
09:00 PilzAdam morning
09:00 Jordach morning Calinou
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09:07 iqualfragile morning
09:08 * Jordach just saw celeron55 post in the forums
09:08 Jordach \o/
09:09 PilzAdam Jordach, he is talking in-dev
09:09 PilzAdam *in minetest-dev
09:10 VanessaE hi jordach
09:10 Jordach evening? VanessaE#
09:11 VanessaE early morning here
09:11 VanessaE 5:11am
09:11 Jordach yep [10:11:22] > CTCP reply TIME Sun Oct 7 05:11:26 from VanessaE
09:13 VanessaE *gasp* c55 posted!?  the world is doomed!  the sky is falling! the price of cheese is rising!  NOOO
09:13 VanessaE :-)
09:14 * Jordach gasps at the fact c55 liked the idea of a games section
09:15 PilzAdam YAY!!!!!!!!! http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=15
09:15 VanessaE well he *did* say he wanted to focus on minetest "the engine" rather than minetest "the collection of mods we all call the game"..
09:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: \o/
09:16 VanessaE Hm.  thunder rolling outside.
09:17 iqualfragile there is no "the game"
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09:17 VanessaE sure there is.
09:17 VanessaE if someone says "minetest" without a qualifier, there's a 99% chance they mean minetest_game
09:19 iqualfragile no, i guess everybody (87%) have modded their game
09:19 VanessaE no doubt
09:20 VanessaE but a modded game is not like saying there is no "game".  Just as my car is still a car even though I've modded it (with a new stereo system)
09:21 iqualfragile there just is no "the game"
09:22 Jordach No topics have been posted
09:22 Jordach Be the first to post a topic in this forum. SURE!
09:23 Jordach damn
09:23 * Jordach had one vote to add a new moderator, but used it on VanessaE
09:29 Jordach i dunno what to do today
09:29 Jordach actually
09:29 Jordach yes ido
09:29 * Jordach forks xdoors2
09:30 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/doors
09:31 Jordach PilzAdam; BUG
09:31 Jordach no any texture support
09:31 PilzAdam what?
09:31 Jordach i want to have a + shape for a window
09:31 Jordach ( + = cutout)
09:32 iqualfragile the problem about far_mesh is that it does not generate meshes far away but exactly where i stand
09:33 PilzAdam yep
09:35 Jordach PilzAdam http://i.imgur.com/PHWgH.png thats what i want
09:35 Jordach not the locked shape
09:37 PilzAdam move request; http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3119 ; http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2589
09:38 PilzAdam ^ VanessaE
09:38 VanessaE working.
09:39 Jordach OldCoder, present?
09:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: can you supply license information for these in the first post please?  (see file X won't do)
09:44 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/xDoors2 there
09:48 * VanessaE pokes at PilzAdam for signs of life
09:49 PilzAdam i hate the license thing in games
09:49 VanessaE it's a CYA thing, you understand :-)
09:51 VanessaE Extracted license info from README.txt and moved Minitest.  What about the other one?
09:52 VanessaE (your minetest_game fork - LGPL I assume?)
09:52 PilzAdam i will collect all the mod licenses this afternoon or so
09:53 PilzAdam WTFPL would be way easier
09:53 VanessaE can't be that
09:53 VanessaE if it's a fork of minetest_game it probably has to be LGPL
09:53 PilzAdam i know
09:53 PilzAdam minetest should be WTFPL
09:55 VanessaE anyway something like what you did for Minitest is sufficient
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09:55 VanessaE at least I think
09:57 PilzAdam minitest has license information
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09:57 VanessaE anyway I'm going back to bed.  when you've got it figured out, edit your first post and let me know
09:57 VanessaE yup I know.
09:57 VanessaE I put it there ;-)
09:58 VanessaE night all.
09:58 PilzAdam can i say: the original minetest_game is LGPL; all my changes are WTFPL?
09:59 VanessaE mmm...yeah I think that will do.
09:59 VanessaE well
09:59 VanessaE no
09:59 VanessaE it's still GPL so your license has to be that.
09:59 * Jordach does not feel well
10:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, minetest_game is LGPL
10:00 VanessaE yes I know.
10:00 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/README.txt#L30
10:01 VanessaE which means your fork has to be as well.  Just waiting for you to agree to that and edit your first post so I can move the thread.
10:01 PilzAdam i have to look at the sub_mods
10:01 PilzAdam wait 2 mins.
10:01 VanessaE ok
10:01 VanessaE waiting :-)
10:01 * VanessaE does NOT go back to bed.
10:01 VanessaE ;)
10:08 PilzAdam VanessaE, done: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43366
10:09 * Jordach gives VanessaE 10$ for a Starbucks coffee
10:09 jin_xi speaking of farmesh: you guys know about this: http://www.sea-of-memes.com/LetsCode67/LetsCode67.html ?
10:09 VanessaE minor tweak, and moved.
10:12 VanessaE jin_xi: +1
10:12 PilzAdam in this list are 8 games: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3220 but in the forum section are only 5...
10:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: some are waiting for license info also.
10:14 VanessaE moved skyblock
10:17 * Jordach has started work on making a 64dots pack for minecrap
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10:18 VanessaE Figured out the right license info for the Avatar one and moved it.
10:18 Jordach VanessaE - play the minecraft demo :)
10:18 VanessaE no.
10:18 PilzAdam +1 for no
10:19 Jordach minetest gameplay bores me
10:19 PilzAdam use my fork
10:19 PilzAdam and simple mobs
10:19 * Jordach is already using it....still bores me
10:20 Jordach to be more specific - mapgen needs more stuff to it
10:20 Jordach not just desert and grassland
10:20 PilzAdam there is also gravel
10:21 Jordach PilzAdam, techinical
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10:36 iqualfragile then add stuff
10:39 Jordach iqualfragile, mapgen.cpp is a mess
10:39 iqualfragile clean it up?
10:39 PilzAdam +1
10:42 PilzAdam the background of the main menu should be changed to the new dirt texture
10:42 Jordach yep
10:42 Jordach it looks like sick *bleegghhhh*
10:43 PilzAdam should i pull request this?
10:43 VanessaE I use a recolored version of my cobblestone texture
10:47 Jordach wow this is taking time
10:50 VanessaE well I'm gonna try to go back to bed/sleep now.
10:50 VanessaE bbl
10:51 PilzAdam this font looks nice: http://i.imgur.com/xQfUt.png
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11:25 iqualfragile pilzadam: can you split item_drop into item_pickup and item_drop?
11:25 PilzAdam why?
11:27 iqualfragile because there are some people who wish to use the pickup- without the drop-functionality (yes i know its just deleting half of the file)
11:28 PilzAdam wenn sie die vorteil haben wollen müssen sie mit den nachteilen leben.
11:30 iqualfragile oder einfach die halbe datei löschen…
11:33 * Jordach continues work on 64dots mc ed
12:18 * PilzAdam is back
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12:53 Mikeonline hi
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13:03 iqualfragile hi
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13:13 iqualfragile cornernote: can you check the formating of your first post http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3316
13:14 iqualfragile there should not be a dot between upstream is and desired
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13:23 OldCoder I am here; who rang?
13:23 OldCoder Fell asleep
13:23 RealBadAngel_ hi folks
13:23 Jordach OldCoder. i rang
13:24 Jordach OldCoder, i suggest you start improving the minetest codebase sometime
13:24 OldCoder Jordach, Of course
13:24 OldCoder As I have been known to say; one step at a time
13:24 Jordach (not minetest-classic)
13:24 * Jordach wants a Minecrap server hosted by OldCoder
13:26 anunakki gcc installed OldCoder
13:26 iqualfragile minetest or minecarft?
13:26 anunakki woke up and it was done
13:30 OldCoder anunakki, I will PM shortly. Writing to people about other matters.
13:30 OldCoder iqualfragile, Minetest
13:30 OldCoder Oh
13:30 anunakki not a problem, no rush
13:30 OldCoder I don't understand what Jordach meant by one point
13:30 iqualfragile the map-generation needs to get cleaned up
13:32 Jordach iqualfragile, it is real horrible
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13:38 T_A_N_K redcrab , please grant me build on your server
13:39 * anunakki yawns
13:39 anunakki i forgot how much time and effort i put into my desktop when i ran freebsd
13:40 anunakki OldCoder, i've got freebsd installed and i'm just working on the WM stuff
13:40 anunakki cant wait till its finished its going to be sexy XD
13:40 OldCoder anunakki, I know. In a PM elsewhere but we will continue shortly. Yes regarding distro which needs an approriate name.
13:40 Mikeonline hm bucket uses setnode instead of build node. so bucket is griefers fav tool
13:40 OldCoder Others: Propose good names for a new OS
13:40 OldCoder BSD based
13:41 T_A_N_K MineBSD
13:41 OldCoder Ha
13:41 OldCoder If it were MT centric yes
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13:52 RealBadAngel_ since Windows is already taken i suggest Doors
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14:00 Jordach anunakki, SonicBSD
14:00 Jordach SonicOS
14:00 anunakki hmm, nice
14:00 anunakki added to the list
14:04 Mikeonline changing set to place_node in bucket will prevent watering protected areas
14:05 Mikeonline iam trying to improve it more now
14:08 anunakki http://piratepad.net/AlAxVoGHba anyone with any name suggestions feel free to add to the pad
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14:21 * Jordach is working at my texture pack
14:41 rubenwardy anyone know where c55 is, and when he is coming back?
14:44 Jordach rubenwardy, /join #minetest-dev
14:44 Jordach see?
14:45 rubenwardy i am joined to minetest-dev already
14:47 rubenwardy is it possible to debug in Ubuntu w/o using an IDE
14:47 rubenwardy ?
14:47 FreeFull Yes, with gdb
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14:48 rubenwardy what would be easier, code::blocks or gdb
14:49 rubenwardy beb
14:49 rubenwardy * brb
14:49 OldCoder anunakki, I have PMd
14:50 Jordach hello Calinou
14:50 * PilzAdam is back
14:50 Jordach hello Phahrrgis
14:50 Jordach PilzAdam
14:50 Jordach **
14:50 PilzAdam RealBadAngel_, how is the texture progress
14:50 PilzAdam ?
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15:02 rubenwardy how do you use gdb
15:02 rubenwardy ?
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15:03 Octupus hi mijyn
15:04 rubenwardy FreeFall
15:04 iqualfragile just enter gdb programtorun
15:04 anunakki lol
15:04 iqualfragile then you get a gdb-shell
15:04 anunakki its kind of basic debugging man
15:04 anunakki http://cs.baylor.edu/~donahoo/tools/gdb/tutorial.html
15:04 iqualfragile there you enter run
15:05 iqualfragile then the program runs, you wait for it to crash and get a stackdump
15:05 iqualfragile done :D
15:06 rubenwardy worked it out, $ gdb minetest     then (gdb) run
15:07 iqualfragile thats kindof what i told you
15:08 * Calinou is playing minecraft
15:08 Calinou awesome community </sarcasm>
15:08 * PilzAdam slaps Calinou
15:09 * Jordach is making a texture pack for minecraft
15:09 PilzAdam finaly: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/f03edb846b12c66dce36990e3fa963b1e0f0b4c6
15:09 PilzAdam ^ no shadows when removing lava anymore
15:10 iqualfragile great!
15:10 Mikeonline if i modify a register craft item on_use code. is there a way to get player/placer name?
15:10 Mikeonline or privs
15:10 iqualfragile get c55 to merge that back!
15:10 Calinou skeletons feel so drunk... they can't hit me due to lag, lol
15:11 Jordach Calinou, +1
15:11 * Calinou has 26 lvls
15:11 Calinou no enchant table
15:11 Calinou I had to die once with 22lvls on the same server to "restore" my hunger already :|
15:11 Calinou hope I won't have to do that again
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15:12 * Calinou sets chat opacity to 60%
15:13 T_A_N_K http://youtu.be/CWL_tgnuev4
15:15 rubenwardy now i have set up a debugger, i do not know what to work on in minetest...
15:16 PilzAdam mapgen
15:16 rubenwardy i might try code optimisation
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15:16 PilzAdam i want more biomes
15:16 rubenwardy lol : http://minetest.net/wiki/lib/exe/detail.php?id=code%3Ainner_workings_of_minetest&amp;media=code:minetest-dfd-visio.png
15:17 rubenwardy "horribly many things"
15:24 PilzAdam i love analysis: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Ableitungsss.svg
15:25 rubenwardy wtf?
15:27 iqualfragile wo liegt das problem mit analysis?
15:28 PilzAdam ich liebe es!
15:30 PilzAdam :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEFfh5ERlg
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15:36 PilzAdam wb rubenwardy
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15:37 PilzAdam wb rubenwardy
15:38 rubenwardy huff
15:41 Jordach ffuh
15:41 PilzAdam ufhf
15:41 Jordach there are 4 * 4 *4 *3 combinations
15:42 Jordach 4*4*4*3
15:42 Jordach *3*3 actually (add this to the last line)
15:48 Octupus Jordach u say my mod?
15:49 Octupus *saw
15:49 Jordach ehm. what?
15:49 Octupus did u see my mod?
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15:51 Octupus any1 seen my mod?
15:51 iqualfragile nope, post a link
15:51 Octupus ok
15:52 Octupus http://www.mediafire.com/?b6vdl5aavrjldtm
15:52 PilzAdam a forum link
15:53 Octupus http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3315
15:53 PilzAdam animation would be nice
15:54 iqualfragile what os are you on?
15:54 PilzAdam Kubuntu
15:55 iqualfragile just press print
15:55 Octupus pilz u dload it
15:55 iqualfragile oh, no, i meant octupus
15:55 Octupus window
15:55 iqualfragile press print and paste into paint
15:56 iqualfragile then save the immage
15:57 Octupus print ?
16:00 Jordach Calinou, i sent you a pm
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16:04 Octupus i just print screen
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16:04 iqualfragile yeah
16:04 Octupus hi tux
16:05 Octupus but nothing came up :l
16:05 * Calinou_ highfives Calinou
16:05 Jordach Calinou_ http://i.imgur.com/hmg6a.png
16:05 Calinou_ shit pack
16:05 Calinou_ skin looks strange :p
16:05 Jordach 64dots will have revenge
16:05 hmmmm you got a 3d player model?
16:06 hmmmm is the ability to do that new?
16:06 Calinou_ hmmmm: that's minecraft not minetest
16:06 Calinou_ flame on
16:06 hmmmm oh
16:06 * Jordach trolled sum noobs with mc
16:06 * PilzAdam kills Calinou and Calinou_
16:06 Calinou_ * Calinou :Nickname is already in use...
16:06 * Jordach does the diving save with gold armour
16:06 Calinou_ there 8D
16:07 Octupus igualfragile,doesnt work :(
16:07 Octupus iqualfragile,doesnt work
16:10 rubenwardy is there a nyan cat mod?
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16:10 PilzAdam what should it do?
16:10 PilzAdam there is nyanland or so
16:11 rubenwardy because nyan cats where taken out of 0.4.3
16:11 PilzAdam no... ?
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16:12 rubenwardy yes, they were
16:12 rubenwardy or at least you might have taken it out of your minetest_game
16:13 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1493
16:13 PilzAdam & https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L109
16:13 PilzAdam they are not taken out
16:15 Octupus some1 shud readd them
16:15 Jordach PilzAdam, i once found a nyan cat on redcrab's original minetest server with a friend
16:15 PilzAdam why readd them if they are still there
16:16 rubenwardy PilzAdam, i use your minetest_game game.
16:16 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1560
16:17 PilzAdam ^ they are also in my game
16:17 Mikeonline is it possible to access the player who used a bucket?
16:17 Mikeonline placer on node place seems to be nil
16:17 PilzAdam you have to modify the bucket mod
16:17 Mikeonline yes i try
16:17 rubenwardy i have a older version: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/df439ae3961680c4c8e3afef5155107d66717f5c
16:17 Mikeonline but it does not send the player
16:18 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/67f699c3640b5cd2759ed006d975965ecf2f0522
16:18 PilzAdam Mikeonline, here you get user: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/bucket/init.lua#L38
16:19 Mikeonline ah
16:19 rubenwardy Highlighting:
16:19 rubenwardy (17:17:40) rubenwardy: *** I HAVE A OLDER VERSION: *** https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/df439ae3961680c4c8e3afef5155107d66717f5c
16:19 Mikeonline its called user not placer sender player ;)
16:19 PilzAdam rubenwardy, get a newer version
16:19 rubenwardy i just did :P
16:20 PilzAdam why did you use an old version?
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16:21 PilzAdam bbl
16:21 Mikeonline but i cant catch user in  minetest.item_place
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16:23 Octupus Where is ieatbacos
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16:25 Mikeonline yeah
16:25 M13 hello
16:25 Octupus Hi m13
16:25 Mikeonline i modified bucket against griefing players :)
16:25 Octupus is you server down
16:25 M13 I was
16:25 M13 it*
16:25 M13 server crashed
16:25 Octupus m13 i made a mod :D
16:26 M13 cool what is it?
16:26 Octupus its adds 3 new waters to mt
16:26 M13 ahh
16:26 M13 i see
16:26 Octupus http://www.mediafire.com/?b6vdl5aavrjldtm
16:26 Octupus theres the link if u wanna put it on your server
16:26 M13 ok
16:26 M13 does it spawn water?
16:27 Octupus i think so
16:27 Octupus but for right now i think it be best to use give
16:27 M13 yes me tyo
16:27 M13 to
16:27 Octupus will u put it on the server?
16:28 M13 maybe need to test it
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16:28 Octupus ok
16:28 M13 hi  rubenwardy
16:28 Octupus its pretty cool if i do not say myself
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16:42 Jordach me gusta
16:42 * Jordach forgot to add some detailing on the hands
16:45 M13 Jordach in cornernote on???
16:46 Jordach m13, what?!
16:53 NakedFury where do animated torches start. from the top of the strip or the bottom?
16:53 Jordach top.
16:54 NakedFury top to bottom
16:54 NakedFury ok
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16:55 * PilzAdam is back
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17:00 LAD hia
17:00 LAD for the few ppl that came on/is now back from were every they were
17:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, wb
17:01 VanessaE hi
17:02 PilzAdam font textures?
17:02 VanessaE not yet, I just woke up :-)
17:03 LAD wait what
17:03 LAD oh most likely time difernce
17:03 LAD what time is it there may i ask??
17:03 VanessaE I slept late
17:04 LAD ok ok
17:04 VanessaE 1:03pm
17:04 LAD ou
17:04 LAD hmmm
17:04 LAD hmmm
17:04 LAD never met some 1 that could out sleep my sister
17:05 VanessaE well to be fair I got to bed late too
17:08 LAD XD still
17:08 LAD i can never sleep past 10
17:08 VanessaE well I'm an old fart.  we need our sleep :-)
17:08 uzver got 12hr sleep after work, and my head was grrrr
17:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, this should be closed: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3316
17:09 VanessaE good idea.
17:09 VanessaE done
17:10 OldCoder Back
17:10 OldCoder VanessaE, Hello
17:10 VanessaE hi
17:10 OldCoder <Octupus> its pretty cool if i do not say myself
17:10 OldCoder ?
17:10 OldCoder I am puzzled by his remark
17:10 * OldCoder shrugs
17:11 OldCoder VanessaE, I have been helping somebody here set up a FreeBSD server. If we succeed there will be FreeBSD clients and servers. All the OS are belong to us.
17:11 OldCoder :p
17:11 VanessaE heh
17:12 PilzAdam are there working mac builds?
17:12 VanessaE not as far as I know, no.
17:13 Jordach lolapplemaxc
17:13 Jordach mac*
17:13 * PilzAdam will never use any Apple product
17:14 PilzAdam ^ same for google (except youtube)
17:15 PilzAdam @all: what do you think: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3239 ?
17:17 PilzAdam Mikeonline, you read all mods?
17:18 Mikeonline why?
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17:19 PilzAdam ha!
17:19 T_A_N_K good day jeija
17:19 Mikeonline hi jeija
17:19 Jeija Hi Mikeonline
17:19 PilzAdam sup Jeija
17:19 Mikeonline suppe :P
17:19 Jeija it is not just copy&paste, _on is replaced by _off
17:20 Mikeonline cant this be in one function?
17:20 PilzAdam Mikeonline, gerne her damit
17:20 VanessaE greetz, Jeija
17:20 Jeija|OFF c u, 20 mins
17:20 VanessaE ok
17:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: re: logging mods, +1
17:22 PilzAdam what should be the name of the setting in minetest.conf?
17:22 VanessaE just as you suggest seems ok to me
17:22 PilzAdam k
17:22 VanessaE or mods_debug = true
17:22 PilzAdam its not realy debug
17:23 VanessaE no, but that seems to be what most mods use print() for
17:23 VanessaE since the average player will never see the controlling terminal (or pay attention to it anyway)
17:24 T_A_N_K I'm mixing together strangers in moscow, sonic 3 ending, and multiple gran turismo 1 songs into 1 song :D
17:27 PilzAdam updated: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45168#p45168
17:27 Jordach T_A_N_K, you madman!
17:32 Mikeonline wb jeija
17:33 VanessaE wb
17:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/67fc35d063e1771f07c31328e671ae0a25efcfc9
17:37 VanessaE nono
17:37 VanessaE wrong way to do is
17:37 VanessaE it
17:38 VanessaE it should be a function that a mod can call that handles the log-if-enabled check on its own
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17:38 PilzAdam VanessaE, why?
17:38 VanessaE a mod should be able to just blindly mod.log() and let builtin.lua or whatever handle actually spitting it out if the .conf says so
17:38 VanessaE simple: consistency - less code too.
17:39 VanessaE you're re-inventing the wheel across potentially hundreds of mods if this were to take off
17:39 PilzAdam but there is no such function in builtin
17:39 PilzAdam so i will first do it this way
17:39 VanessaE I know.
17:39 VanessaE so add one :-)
17:39 VanessaE if not to builtin then to default.lua or something
17:39 VanessaE or to a separate mini-mod that handles this task
17:40 PilzAdam all mods have to depend on it!
17:40 VanessaE ok, then I dunno what
17:40 VanessaE but it should definitely not be a check that takes place in every piece of code
18:00 PilzAdam gtg
18:00 PilzAdam bye
18:12 * Jordach is about 60% done on my own mc tp
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18:28 hmmmm mind control toilet paper?
18:30 RealBadAngel_ hi all
18:30 iqualfragile hello
18:32 VanessaE hey RBA.
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18:32 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: saw pneumatic tubes in operation for myself the other day on one of OldCoder's servers.  Nice. :-)
18:32 RealBadAngel_ :)
18:33 RealBadAngel_ i am now adding lotsa tested stuff to technic
18:34 RealBadAngel_ just started with tier 2 machines
18:34 RealBadAngel_ which will use transport tubes
18:34 RealBadAngel_ just added wireing for them
18:37 RealBadAngel_ meanwhile i think i have to talk to cornernote and ask him to do wiki for technic
18:37 RealBadAngel_ he has kinda script for extracting recipes
18:38 RealBadAngel_ makin the list in topic with screenshots is getting troublesome
18:39 RealBadAngel_ VanessaE, have you made use of zinc already?
18:39 VanessaE not yet - I kinda forgot :)
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18:41 RealBadAngel_ i can add alloy smelting recipes if you want
18:41 RealBadAngel_ or you can register it
18:42 NekoGloop technic.register_alloy_recipe(src1, src1amt, src2, src2amt, dst, dstamt
18:42 NekoGloop )
18:43 RealBadAngel_ whou could understand it? ;)
18:43 RealBadAngel_ example plz
18:43 NekoGloop Me :P
18:43 VanessaE well as I think of it, it's best if you register the recipe as part of technic and I will make homedecor use it.
18:44 RealBadAngel_ ok, so i will add brass recipes and ingots
18:44 NekoGloop And dust.
18:44 VanessaE yes
18:44 VanessaE no
18:44 VanessaE no "dust:
18:44 VanessaE why dust?
18:44 RealBadAngel_ there will be dust too
18:44 NekoGloop Because stainless steel has dust as well.
18:45 RealBadAngel_ when zinc and copper are grinded down to dusts
18:45 NekoGloop Then smelted.
18:45 RealBadAngel_ they can be mixed and smelted
18:45 NekoGloop You get zinc dust.
18:45 NekoGloop Or brass dust, even,
18:45 RealBadAngel_ so 2 recipes will work for brass
18:46 RealBadAngel_ smelting ingots or dusts
18:46 NekoGloop BTW. Make a normal alloy furnace.
18:46 NekoGloop One that uses fuel.
18:46 RealBadAngel_ ok
18:46 NakedFury dokutest light done
18:47 NekoGloop Its quite annoying to have to hunt down copper, gold, tin, and enough smooth stone to make an alloy furnace.
18:47 RealBadAngel_ no chips for free ;)
18:47 NekoGloop Make it use the furnace recipe with smooth stone instead of cobble.
18:47 RealBadAngel_ btw ive adjusted recipe for doped silicon wafer
18:48 NekoGloop Oh good, not mithril anymore?
18:48 RealBadAngel_ now just 2 mithril dusts are needed
18:48 NekoGloop Augh
18:48 RealBadAngel_ were 3
18:48 NekoGloop Make it use zinc.
18:49 RealBadAngel_ i think i will use zinc for next tier of power machines
18:49 OldCoder Hi
18:49 NekoGloop Make zinc used to dope wafers.
18:49 OldCoder Page?
18:50 OldCoder Ah
18:50 OldCoder Yes; the servers are acquiring features
18:50 OldCoder Announcement: They have DokuTest now
18:50 OldCoder From NakedRage
18:50 OldCoder I am proceeding slowly. Therefore the servers remain fast except for geographic lag. And stable.
18:51 iqualfragile can you link that?
19:00 OldCoder Hi
19:00 OldCoder iqualfragile, was that for me?
19:00 iqualfragile jup
19:01 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
19:01 iqualfragile i could not find it using the forum-search
19:01 OldCoder That is the page
19:01 OldCoder To get the new Windows MT client
19:01 OldCoder Go here instead:
19:01 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
19:01 OldCoder The new client is faster and packed with loads of mods
19:01 iqualfragile i meant doku-test
19:01 OldCoder Oh
19:01 OldCoder One moment
19:01 iqualfragile nobody uses windows
19:01 OldCoder Ha
19:01 NakedFury http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46543#p46543
19:01 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you
19:02 OldCoder Actually that raises a good point. I should make downloads of my versions of all the mods available.
19:02 OldCoder The versions that are actually on my servers.
19:02 iqualfragile jup, great idea
19:02 iqualfragile thankyou
19:02 OldCoder I will add that to my list
19:02 NekoGloop Everyone with a brain uses windows.
19:03 iqualfragile i love these comedians
19:03 NekoGloop Because we dont need the threat of accidentally having someone hack our computer and cause an infinite loop in some random, easily accessible, commandline interface.
19:04 iqualfragile made my day, i just love these comedians
19:05 RealBadAngel_ iqualfragile, you told me bout modified client with mipmaps etc enabled
19:05 RealBadAngel_ got a win build with it?
19:05 iqualfragile jup
19:05 iqualfragile no
19:05 RealBadAngel_ pity
19:06 RealBadAngel_ "nobody uses windows"
19:06 RealBadAngel_ my name is nobody ;)
19:06 iqualfragile just build it on linux, its trivial
19:06 Mikeonline is debug.txt output normal or will it slow down the server?
19:07 * RealBadAngel_ is firein up VM
19:09 RealBadAngel_ ok, im on debian right now
19:09 RealBadAngel_ how to compile win build?
19:09 RealBadAngel_ is there any bash script for it?
19:10 iqualfragile http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/~paulm/Cross/
19:10 RealBadAngel_ jesus christ superstar....
19:10 RealBadAngel_ nothin a BIT easier?
19:11 iqualfragile you can set up a sane compiling-env on windows
19:11 iqualfragile but i think that REALY hard
19:12 iqualfragile +s
19:12 RealBadAngel_ yeah i saw
19:12 RealBadAngel_ damn, no sfan5 here
19:12 iqualfragile i might set up a cross-compiling environment on linux tomorow
19:12 RealBadAngel_ he could be useful for this :)
19:12 sfan5 what?
19:12 RealBadAngel_ oo
19:12 iqualfragile then i can send you a win-build
19:13 RealBadAngel_ suprise :)
19:13 RealBadAngel_ sfan5, could you compile a win build with some graphic settings enabled?
19:13 sfan5 which?
19:13 Jordach mipmap
19:14 RealBadAngel_ iqualfragile, can you point him?
19:14 iqualfragile jup
19:14 iqualfragile http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2873
19:15 RealBadAngel_ AAF enabled too
19:15 RealBadAngel_ that could help hires textures
19:21 RealBadAngel_ VanessaE, can you link the brass ingot image again?
19:21 * Jordach uses 8px
19:22 RealBadAngel_ what r u playin on? microwave?
19:22 NekoGloop No, a potato.
19:22 RealBadAngel_ hehe
19:22 NekoGloop It promised me cake.
19:23 NekoGloop /obvious portal reference is obvious
19:26 Jordach RealBadAngel_, unlike some people, i like my super small textures
19:27 RealBadAngel_ everythin is for ppl
19:27 RealBadAngel_ i do like hires
19:28 RealBadAngel_ unlike almost all modern games, we are able to customize almost everythin
19:31 NakedFury I like 16 to 32 textures
19:31 NakedFury or no super mega relistic
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19:33 iqualfragile sfan5: how are you cross-compiling?
19:33 sfan5 what?
19:33 RealBadAngel_ yeah, whats the progress?
19:34 iqualfragile oh, you are on windows?
19:34 sfan5 no
19:35 sfan5 i'm currently making a patch
19:37 iqualfragile oh, you could have asked for that
19:38 iqualfragile http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?4f78ee0d7f9cbce5#J+8zurRNQophXoAZh/1avE0EDPhlfCcnZsevQiJpoEg=
19:39 Mikeonline sfan do you know if lua scripts are cached or interpreted in place? so uploading a new script with changed line numbers and without restart would crash server?
19:39 Mikeonline sfan5
19:40 sfan5 i think they're caches
19:40 sfan5 *cached
19:40 Mikeonline hm but not sure..
19:40 Mikeonline like uploading running sh scripts may cause trouble
19:40 sfan5 iqualfragile: i need a normal patch not a git-patch
19:41 iqualfragile you can update the scripts while the server is running
19:41 iqualfragile then just change the first line?
19:41 iqualfragile but the server will ignore that
19:43 Mikeonline hm
19:43 T_A_N_K how does this sound so far?
19:43 T_A_N_K http://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/sonic-turismo-in-moscow-1-3
19:47 iqualfragile what was it intended for?
19:48 T_A_N_K to be music
19:48 iqualfragile so no special purpose?
19:49 T_A_N_K "royalty free"
19:49 iqualfragile the part after 1:50 is a bit strange
19:50 T_A_N_K it doesn't really, i just felt like making it to see if i could mash together sonic 3 ending some songs from gran turismo 1 and strangers in moscow
19:50 T_A_N_K but it's not even close to being done, i still have to include super mario theme song lol
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19:52 MiJyn hii
19:55 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: brass ingots...  lowres:  https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/master/textures/homedecor_brass_ingot.png  -- highres:   https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/homedecor_brass_ingot.png
19:55 VanessaE sorry for the delay, was busy receiving some furniture and also being lazy in said furniture :-)
19:57 sfan5 iqualfragile: compiling
19:58 Jordach VanessaE +1
19:58 Jordach laziness ftw
19:59 Jordach annnnnddddd i need sleep
19:59 Jordach night all
20:03 NakedFury its 4pm cant go to sleeep!!!
20:05 OldCoder NakedFury, Oh No
20:05 OldCoder 4:00pm
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20:05 OldCoder So late
20:06 VanessaE sleep is overrated anyway :-)
20:06 OldCoder Actually for Jordach it is midnight
20:06 OldCoder It has been over 12 hours since I added a mod!
20:06 OldCoder Withdrawal! Anything new?
20:06 OldCoder :-)
20:07 VanessaE nope :-)
20:07 OldCoder VanessaE, I forget if I mentioned this. There is a new Windows MT client. Faster than before.
20:07 iqualfragile you could extract the cloud-generation-mod from pilzadams fork of minetest-game
20:07 VanessaE cool.
20:07 VanessaE Linux or bust, though :-)
20:07 OldCoder iqualfragile, has he provided it separately? VanessaE Yes but like FreeBSD this will expand MT reach.
20:07 FreeFull Windows MT?
20:08 iqualfragile no, but i can extract it if you wish
20:08 FreeFull Oh, MT = Minetest
20:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, Sure
20:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, Is this mod fast and stable?
20:10 OldCoder Safe to use?
20:10 Mikeonline hm worldedit created a node which looks like gravel is not digable and looks wrong
20:11 iqualfragile well, i have never used it but it looks cool
20:11 Mikeonline but its just client side bug
20:11 OldCoder We'll take a look. Has he gone for the day? I'll ask him about the code later on.
20:11 iqualfragile and its used by some people, everyboy using pilzadams minetest_game fork
20:11 OldCoder Are people using the fork?
20:11 OldCoder That is a positive sign
20:11 iqualfragile jup
20:11 OldCoder Then we will try the mod
20:12 OldCoder Plus I plan to run his fork
20:12 iqualfragile and its fast as its just another "ore"
20:12 OldCoder All right
20:12 iqualfragile well, ore in the sky but anyways
20:12 OldCoder Extract and it
20:12 * OldCoder laughs
20:12 OldCoder gets added
20:12 OldCoder "Ghost Ores in the Sky"
20:12 OldCoder Needs a song
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20:14 iqualfragile uhm… be carefull when using the whole fork: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/d31d29489e6684584f6c1be4529dc6269b0f2a8d
20:14 OldCoder Yes
20:14 OldCoder I don't plan to merge it; just to run it as a separate world
20:14 OldCoder iqualfragile, Is that the whole thing or the clouds mod?
20:15 OldCoder Maybe I'll surprise him and set up a PilzAdam world now
20:15 iqualfragile what exactly? the link i just posted?
20:15 OldCoder Yes thank ou
20:15 OldCoder *you
20:16 iqualfragile thats just the commit where he made torches burn stuff
20:16 OldCoder All right
20:19 iqualfragile http://ompldr.org/vZnNrMg/clouds.zip
20:20 iqualfragile & you need to set alternative_clouds = 1 in your minetest.conf
20:20 OldCoder iqualfragile, Thank you!
20:20 OldCoder We will try it shortly
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20:32 sfan5 iqualfragile: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-25cf375-extrafilters-win32.7z
20:33 iqualfragile RealBadAngel_: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-25cf375-extrafilters-win32.7z
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20:35 NakedFury where are screenshots saved?
20:36 sfan5 bin
20:41 NakedFury thanks
20:41 NakedFury edited octupus water code
20:42 NakedFury and he is not here
20:44 OldCoder NakedFury, That is fine
20:44 OldCoder NakedFury, Post the revisions; I'll be maintaining a copy
20:50 NakedFury ok made the post with screenshots, since octu didnt even do that, and posted a pastebin of the fix
20:50 OldCoder NakedFury, what is the pastebin link?
20:50 NakedFury one sec
20:51 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/wqQQYM1J
20:51 OldCoder ty
20:51 OldCoder Reviewing things
20:51 NakedFury has entire code with few fixes
20:51 OldCoder ty
20:51 NakedFury like yellow water tile image being correct this time
20:51 OldCoder What does his mod do again? Colored water?
20:51 NakedFury yep
20:51 OldCoder k
20:51 NakedFury had to make it so underwater screen color changed too
20:51 OldCoder Working on things now
20:52 NakedFury red, yellow and green
20:52 OldCoder Well, it's new anyway
20:52 OldCoder Yellow water
20:52 OldCoder Huh
20:52 NakedFury if octu keeps working on it and doing things that depend on it, it will grow
20:52 OldCoder Yes
20:52 OldCoder I am simply imagining the likely interpretation for one of the colors
20:53 NakedFury yeah pee
20:53 * OldCoder shrugs
20:53 OldCoder Proceeding with alternative clouds and alternative water
20:53 NakedFury why wasnt animated water added to default game like lava was?
20:54 OldCoder Good question; water is a larger surface in general, isn't it?
20:54 OldCoder Would that matter?
20:54 NakedFury no idea
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20:56 OldCoder NakedFury, do you have the link for the original OctuWater mod?
20:56 OldCoder Adding clouds and that one
20:56 NakedFury http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3315
20:57 OldCoder Ty again
21:06 hmmmm Finally.... synthetic watermellon.
21:06 hmmmm http://pastebin.com/pNxTgtXy  :3
21:06 hmmmm perlin noise is gonna be shit-yo-pants fast, dude.
21:06 OldCoder hmmmm, What is it? Where should it be installed?
21:06 hmmmm In your bunghole
21:06 OldCoder hmmmm, Thank you for the response
21:07 OldCoder Added to /ignore
21:07 hmmmm lel
21:07 NakedFury OldCoder hmm is doing a very awesome extensive fix of the source
21:07 OldCoder NakedFury, I am not sure I will be able to install as he directs
21:07 NakedFury he is trying to remove useless crap and place faster and efficient methods
21:07 OldCoder See the instructions he provides above. They are not as useful as I would like.
21:08 NakedFury well yeah that was crappy. the only way to install is c++ and new minetest build
21:08 NakedFury a fork
21:08 hmmmm lol
21:08 hmmmm indeed
21:08 OldCoder It is a question of efficiency
21:08 hmmmm it's not like you can just pop this text into a lua file and minetest will magically run 400 times faster
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21:08 OldCoder NakedFury, No matter how good his code is it will not run in the location that he has specified.
21:08 hmmmm it's part of the new perlin noise functions
21:09 NakedFury yeah I think that was a jerkish response maybe out of stress
21:09 OldCoder Stress? I am sympathetic
21:09 hmmmm should be 4-5x faster than pure C
21:09 OldCoder But I sort of have stress as well. Am not letting it interfere
21:09 NakedFury hmm he tought you were talking about a mod nit source code stuff
21:09 OldCoder ?
21:09 OldCoder I saw watermelon
21:09 OldCoder Thought it might be a plant mod or something
21:09 hmmmm does that look like Lua code to you?  :p
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21:10 OldCoder NakedFury, proceeding to rebuild servers with PilzCloud and OctuWater
21:10 hmmmm oh wow, he really did ignore me
21:11 hmmmm we have a testy bunch in here
21:11 OldCoder Servers going down for about 60 seconds. Clients will regrettably be kicked.
21:12 NakedFury <hmmmm> it's part of the new perlin noise functions <hmmmm> should be 4-5x faster than pure C
21:12 NakedFury that is what hmm said
21:12 OldCoder NakedFury, that sounds sensible
21:12 NakedFury he also apologized for the bunghole comment
21:12 OldCoder Oh?
21:12 hmmmm if he ignored me he probably doesn't want to hear that
21:12 OldCoder Unignored, then
21:12 OldCoder Servers restarted
21:12 NakedFury :)
21:12 hmmmm oldcoder:  I didn't apologize, he's lying
21:12 * OldCoder laughs out loud
21:12 OldCoder Fine
21:13 hmmmm oldcoder:  Go ignore me again pal
21:13 NakedFury come on!
21:13 OldCoder As I am stressed too best I do that
21:13 NakedFury I totally had fixed that situation
21:13 OldCoder NakedFury, please test PilzCloud and OctuWater
21:13 OldCoder Or anybody else who is interested
21:13 hmmmm i hate people
21:13 OldCoder hmmmm, why?
21:13 OldCoder I hate them too but also love
21:13 hmmmm idk man
21:13 OldCoder hmmmm, hmm
21:13 hmmmm that's why you shouldn't take it personally
21:13 OldCoder When did this start?
21:13 OldCoder It is not personal at all
21:14 OldCoder I assure you
21:14 hmmmm ok, later, dinner time
21:14 OldCoder Hmm again
21:14 hmmmm i hope you people realize that this is going to take a while before it gets into the master trunk
21:14 OldCoder You said dinner
21:14 OldCoder Leaving or not?
21:15 hmmmm i'll set up a github account and branch it so you guys can compile and w/e soon
21:15 OldCoder If not... when did this start?
21:15 OldCoder How do you feel in general; calm or stressed?
21:15 OldCoder What is in your head?
21:15 NakedFury tsting the clouds, waiting until its clearer(daytime)
21:15 OldCoder NakedFury, I will set the time. What port are you on?
21:15 NakedFury already daytime
21:15 NakedFury the clouds look fine
21:15 OldCoder All right
21:16 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you! So water and clouds are both working
21:16 OldCoder That is good
21:16 NakedFury ok
21:16 OldCoder hmmmm, you have mixed feelings then
21:16 OldCoder You see work that is needed. You do it. Why?
21:16 * OldCoder shrugs
21:17 OldCoder hmmmm, your remark was an invitation. To one path or another. You must choose the path.
21:17 OldCoder As you wish, then.
21:17 OldCoder
21:18 hmmmm lol wtf
21:18 OldCoder iqualfragile, if you are here; should I create a PilzAdam world? Not the clouds. They are in now. But his fork.
21:18 NakedFury oldcoder: fixed another small error in water code: opening the .init at line 31: should be {name="octuwater_water_red.png", backface_culling=false},
21:19 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you and patching now
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21:19 OldCoder This will be loaded when the PilzAdam world goes in
21:19 NakedFury that will stop the message of missing texture creating dummy now
21:19 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I am adding a PilzAdam world. Any advice?
21:19 iqualfragile1 uh, gdamn, ip-change
21:19 OldCoder IP Happens
21:19 OldCoder :-)
21:20 iqualfragile1 well, i guess he has already customized the game in his fork
21:20 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I have added PilzClouds to my worlds. I will add his entire fork now. Any suggestions? Avoid those of hmmmm type as I am not myself today.
21:20 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/ttZwbz7J  new pastebin of the fix
21:21 OldCoder NakedFury, ty
21:21 OldCoder Adding shortly
21:21 iqualfragile1 well: that depends on if you want to create a game like pilzadam would like it
21:21 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I want to
21:21 OldCoder Explain and it shall be
21:21 iqualfragile1 or create a game from what pilzadam has made
21:21 OldCoder as he wishes
21:21 OldCoder Which do you recommend?
21:22 iqualfragile1 well then: start out with his fork, he collected allmost everything there
21:22 OldCoder I will proceed momentarily
21:22 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest-particles
21:22 OldCoder NakedFury, made the change and it will appear on next restart
21:22 OldCoder iqualfragile1, reviewinbg
21:22 OldCoder *g
21:23 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/Neuromancer56/MinetestAmbience
21:23 iqualfragile1 those two should be added, too
21:23 OldCoder iqualfragile1, what are you showing us?
21:23 OldCoder Ah
21:23 OldCoder Wait
21:23 OldCoder iqualfragile1, may I have main link for his fork again please? I will proceed right now
21:23 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game
21:23 OldCoder And hmmmm if you are reading this; I do not take it personally. It is more complex than that. Good-bye.
21:23 OldCoder
21:24 OldCoder Forking the PilzAdam fork
21:24 OldCoder Cloning rather
21:24 OldCoder Cloned and reviewing
21:25 OldCoder Looks straightforward. Adding the other two now.
21:27 iqualfragile1 the second one is the version of neucromancer because he continued fine-tuning after they build the core
21:27 OldCoder O.K.
21:27 OldCoder Ready soon
21:29 OldCoder Whoa. 27MB.
21:29 iqualfragile1 jup, it are sounds
21:29 OldCoder It includes an embedded ZIP file named ambience.zip
21:29 iqualfragile1 and neucromancer did not clean up the repos so you are actualy downloading the mod 3 times
21:29 OldCoder Ah!
21:30 OldCoder Working on it
21:30 OldCoder The unpacked one; is that the current?
21:31 OldCoder Cleaning this up
21:31 iqualfragile1 jup
21:31 iqualfragile1 you can delete the .zip s
21:31 OldCoder all right
21:31 OldCoder So sound works?
21:31 iqualfragile1 yeah, and it sounds great
21:32 iqualfragile1 that realy is a wonderfull adition to minetest
21:32 OldCoder Wait
21:32 iqualfragile1 especialy as the sound adapts to the environment around you
21:32 OldCoder Wait
21:32 OldCoder IW   temp1                        Row 2    Col 1    9:32  Ctrl-K H for help
21:32 OldCoder 14init.lua
21:32 OldCoder Badinit.lua
21:32 OldCoder depends.txt
21:32 OldCoder init16.lua
21:32 OldCoder init17.lua
21:32 OldCoder init29debug.lua
21:32 OldCoder init.lua
21:32 OldCoder init.lua.pilz.lu
21:32 OldCoder Which of those is the one to use?
21:33 iqualfragile1 init.lua
21:33 iqualfragile1 its a mess
21:33 iqualfragile1 he just does not get what a vcs is good for
21:33 iqualfragile1 just like xyz who keeps all his mods in one repos
21:34 iqualfragile1 wich is impossible to fork
21:34 OldCoder All right
21:34 OldCoder So the default
21:34 OldCoder All of this goes live shortly
21:36 OldCoder iqualfragile1, This is a PilzAdam edit of a mod by somebody else? Who is the originator?
21:36 iqualfragile1 wich exactly?
21:36 iqualfragile1 ambience?
21:36 OldCoder Ambiance
21:36 OldCoder Ambience, yes
21:38 OldCoder iqualfragile1, Also...
21:38 iqualfragile1 that was an cooperation of necromancer and pilzadam
21:38 OldCoder iqualfragile1, will Ambience work in standard worlds?
21:38 iqualfragile1 necromancer then continued finetuning it
21:38 iqualfragile1 jup
21:38 OldCoder And should I add it everywhere?
21:38 OldCoder Will people like it?
21:38 OldCoder Or will download of music slow things down?
21:39 OldCoder This all looks fun
21:39 OldCoder
21:39 OldCoder iqualfragile1, these are the questions: 1. Anything else to PilzAdam fork? Or should I go ahead and start it? 2. Will Ambience work everywhere? 3. Should I use Ambience everywhere or bad idea?
21:40 iqualfragile1 1.: yes, one moment
21:40 iqualfragile1 2. yes it will work everywhere and improve the ambience a lot
21:42 iqualfragile1 3. its a good idea because it improves the ambience wich is rather bad in minetest but its a bit problematic (at least for my server with not-that-much-upload) because the first login takes ages
21:42 OldCoder You refer to media caching
21:42 iqualfragile1 yup
21:42 OldCoder I could add a setting to enable or disable this for specific worlds
21:42 iqualfragile1 so the 2. and next logins are fast
21:43 iqualfragile1 nah, the media will be tranfaired anyways, i think
21:43 OldCoder But you said
21:43 OldCoder first login takes ages
21:43 OldCoder Not true?
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21:45 iqualfragile1 true but thats when all the media gets downloaded
21:45 OldCoder iqualfragile1, All right. Indicate remaining PilzAdam fork instructions
21:46 iqualfragile1 his fork of xyzs signs
21:46 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/PilzAdam/signs
21:46 OldCoder k
21:46 OldCoder Question... Will existing users pick up the music when next they connect?
21:47 iqualfragile1 yes
21:47 iqualfragile1 they will
21:48 OldCoder k
21:48 iqualfragile1 well, i dont think he actualy likes his carts-mod
21:48 OldCoder Oh?
21:48 iqualfragile1 so you can leave that out
21:49 OldCoder It's already in the standard set. Do others like it?
21:49 iqualfragile1 yeah, 2 functions seem to be buggy engine-wise so he had to cack around it
21:50 iqualfragile1 i dont, its choppy and the cart always stops when you ride up a stairway
21:50 OldCoder iqualfragile1, so delete carts from standard set? How do others feel?
21:50 OldCoder Will this leave unknown objects?
21:50 iqualfragile1 yes, an intersection and the carts
21:51 OldCoder Not clear; excuse me
21:51 OldCoder iqualfragile1, so delete carts from standard set? How do others feel?
21:51 OldCoder Will this leave unknown objects?
21:51 OldCoder Proceeding with fork BTW
21:51 iqualfragile1 this will leave unknown objects
21:51 iqualfragile1 an intersection and the actual carts
21:51 OldCoder But you say carts are buggy and he doesn't like them himself?
21:52 iqualfragile1 i dont think anyone realy used that anyways
21:52 OldCoder k
21:52 iqualfragile1 yes, i saiy that
21:52 OldCoder Working
21:53 iqualfragile1 what exactly do you mean by standard set?
21:53 OldCoder
21:53 OldCoder See this web page:
21:53 iqualfragile1 the set of mods you put in every world?
21:53 OldCoder Most worlds
21:53 OldCoder As a starting point
21:53 OldCoder I add or subtract
21:53 OldCoder Skyblock has a smaller set
21:54 OldCoder Jordach has mostly his own
21:54 OldCoder etc.
21:54 iqualfragile1 ah, his map-mod is a nice addition: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747
21:54 OldCoder Checking in a minute
21:54 iqualfragile1 but that one is a bit of work to set up
21:54 OldCoder Let's hold off then
21:54 OldCoder Wait
21:54 OldCoder Anything else?
21:55 iqualfragile1 especialy as i would not recommend using the python-verson of minetestmapper because its very verry verrry slow
21:55 iqualfragile1 beds?
21:55 OldCoder I think I have them; checking
21:55 OldCoder Yep
21:55 iqualfragile1 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2625
21:55 OldCoder Yes
21:56 iqualfragile1 well, i guess you will need to add simple mobs then, because you need to get wool from somewhere
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21:57 iqualfragile1 or does farming include something to get wool?
21:57 iqualfragile1 it does
21:57 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I am in PM for about 10 minutes. Add more suggestions if you like. Work will proceed.
21:57 iqualfragile1 ok
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21:58 OldCoder anunakki, hi
21:58 iqualfragile1 the only thing i could think of would be his mobs, but any mobs are expensive cpu-wise so you should think about using them
21:59 anunakki hello
22:01 iqualfragile1 and yeah, the map, but that would need some work, realy
22:02 iqualfragile1 anyone able to create mods in here: how do i make one node with one texture be larger then one node?
22:03 NakedFury no idea
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22:06 NekoGloop I wanna see more alloys in technic.
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22:10 OldCoder Octupus, OctuWater is added to the worlds
22:10 OldCoder Music is coming in a few minutes
22:10 Octupus Cool
22:10 Octupus :)
22:11 Octupus Did u see um?
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22:12 Octupus Hi sascha
22:23 VanessaE can someone with some in-depth bug-hunting experience lend a hand? I need some help
22:23 VanessaE (strictly minetest mod related)\
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22:24 NekoGloop I can give it a go.
22:24 VanessaE ok
22:25 hmmmm wow, people are really going nuts with the mods
22:25 VanessaE yup
22:26 NakedFury modding is a great way to get into coding and we like this game
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22:30 LandMineMt i need asistence!\
22:30 NekoGloop Get out.
22:30 hmmmm I'm going to be adding:  EnvRef.get_perlin_map2d, EnvRef.get_perlin_map3d  which are going to return multi-dimensional arrays of a user-specified size filled with perlin noise samples starting at specified coordinates for a specified amount of nodes
22:30 LandMineMt how good would a server run on 768MB ram and 2 cores?
22:30 hmmmm instead of get_perlin which only returns one node's worth of perlin noise
22:31 LandMineMt NekoGloop keep it shut no one is speaking to you
22:31 hmmmm i haven't decided on specifics yet
22:31 NekoGloop Shove it up your ass.
22:31 LandMineMt OldCoder you know this?
22:31 hmmmm but there's going to be a BiomeRef class
22:31 hmmmm you'll be able to define your own biome and land generation perlin noise parameters
22:32 Octupus Ban hammer XD
22:32 hmmmm and the nodes that are placed and at what thickness etc.
22:32 NekoGloop For who though?
22:32 LandMineMt w/e just need to know if i can run a decent server on 750 mb ram
22:32 NekoGloop Go find out, asshole.
22:32 Octupus :P
22:32 ecube lol vanessa
22:32 Mikeonline good night all
22:33 hmmmm also you'll be able to specify a post-processing callback where you can do whatever you'd like with the newly generated blocks
22:33 NekoGloop Did i just hear a banhammer be raised?
22:33 VanessaE don't egg him on, neko.  I don't wanna have to keep adding more of his IP's to the ban list.
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22:33 hmmmm sort of like the add minerals in mapgen.lua
22:33 LandMineMt yeah neko why you have to be so mean? ahahahahaha ....your ignored
22:33 ecube VanessaE: all his IP's are either 189.191.*.* or 189.144.*.*
22:33 ecube jic
22:33 LandMineMt yup
22:33 LandMineMt lol
22:33 LandMineMt not really
22:33 ecube i think he told me they were all the mexican IP's
22:33 LandMineMt she has seen others
22:33 NekoGloop LandMineMt: If you hadnt noticed i'm the only one talking to you.
22:33 hmmmm wow everybody gets so excited over this landmine feller but not new modding api :(
22:34 ecube MODDING API!! :D
22:34 NekoGloop So your even more ignored
22:34 LandMineMt VanessaE do yo uknow if i can run good on 750 mb?
22:34 ecube there, happy?
22:34 NekoGloop hmmmm: I would be more excited over something physically existing. ^^
22:34 VanessaE heh
22:34 ecube LandMineMt: 750 mb is good enough, what you should be concerned about is CPU usage
22:34 hmmmm FYI this is a humungous addition
22:35 NekoGloop Then get outta here and work on it! :D
22:35 hmmmm the entire mapgen is being replaced along with the noise generation stuff
22:35 hmmmm a UI screen is being added
22:35 LandMineMt ok ecube.....imma try it out, might have to buy a better vps if it doesnt work
22:35 VanessaE now that's worth getting excited about :-)
22:35 hmmmm and then the lua api
22:35 NakedFury hmmmmm I am excited over this but at this exact moment im doing homework and I need to learn perlin stuff to understand you better
22:35 hmmmm okay
22:36 VanessaE anyone else feel like taking a crack at this mod issue?
22:36 NekoGloop Nope.
22:36 hmmmm if i have to give an estimate, i'd say i'll be done by the middle of the month
22:36 NekoGloop :D
22:36 hmmmm i'll write a halloween mod in order to show off the new API additions
22:36 LandMineMt ecube what happened to your server? and how mcuh ram did it have?
22:36 NekoGloop OMG
22:36 LandMineMt it ran pretty smotth
22:36 NekoGloop HELLOWEEN
22:36 * NekoGloop runs
22:37 hmmmm yea, "halloween update"
22:37 NekoGloop Like minecrap?
22:37 hmmmm yeah haha
22:37 hmmmm that's where i got the idea from
22:37 NekoGloop Its gettin one too xD
22:37 ecube how did i never think to call minecraft 'minecrap'
22:37 ecube wtf's wrong with me
22:37 OldCoder Hi
22:37 ecube hi
22:37 hmmmm ugh, a friend of mine always called it minecrap
22:38 OldCoder Know what? Scrolling up
22:38 OldCoder I have been elsewhere
22:38 OldCoder NekoGloop, let him ask
22:38 OldCoder LandMineMt, `Reviewing
22:38 NekoGloop Instead of him figuring out on his own?
22:38 OldCoder It is a simple question. And I try to help everybody.
22:39 OldCoder LandMineMt, More RAM would be better. But it should run MT for at least one world fairly well. Add swap space on disk. Expect slow compile times.
22:39 OldCoder Lightweight Linux distro would be better than Ubuntu. But you could still try Ubuntu.
22:39 LandMineMt kk
22:40 LandMineMt not gonna use an old vps i have anymore for what i was using it for
22:40 LandMineMt so i thought of a mt server
22:40 OldCoder I have tried both AWS Micro and Small
22:40 ecube if you're using a comp that you don't use for your everyday stuff, run in singleuser mode
22:40 OldCoder Yes; but a small server might be fine
22:40 OldCoder Multiple worlds and too many users may lag
22:41 OldCoder I recommend the server optimization settings. I will post the ones I'm using.
22:41 OldCoder I'd also avoid high CPU mods
22:41 LandMineMt OldCoder why not just give me one of yours and delete Octupus server? its ugly anyway
22:41 OldCoder But MT is not high CPU in general
22:41 LandMineMt ok thanks oldcoder
22:41 OldCoder LandMineMt, You can have one of mine. You said you didn't need it. See me in PM. But try your VPS first.
22:41 NekoGloop I will admit octu's server has been a bit in shambles lately it seems.
22:41 OldCoder With yours you can control it completely
22:42 OldCoder I will explain build procedures etc.
22:42 OldCoder I am needed elsewhere for a few minutes
22:42 OldCoder Then music goes into MT
22:42 LandMineMt ok
22:42 OldCoder and I boot PilzAdam world
22:42 LandMineMt ill talk to you about it tommorow
22:42 OldCoder All right
22:42 LandMineMt ill try the vps in a while
22:42 OldCoder I recommend you try yours first
22:42 LandMineMt ok
22:43 Octupus What with my server neko?
22:43 NekoGloop Heh.
22:43 NekoGloop Just seemed a bit messy last i was on it.
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22:43 NekoGloop Random stuff here there and everywhere.
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22:47 Octupus Ohm
22:47 Octupus Ohk
22:47 hmmmm has anybody noticed that the game is laggy with sound enabled?
22:48 Octupus Yes :)
22:48 LandMineMt No
22:48 VanessaE has anybody noticed that the game is laggy with anything but stone/dirt/etc enabled? ;-)
22:48 NekoGloop Has anyone noticed the game is laggy even with just dirt enabled?
22:48 hmmmm well at least it's not just me, there's a problem with that
22:48 VanessaE lol
22:51 VanessaE dammit where's Mikeonline when I need him
22:52 NekoGloop Mikeoffline
22:52 VanessaE :P
22:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, better than melted...
22:53 OldCoder I tapped a block in LAD world. And the whole place melted!
22:53 OldCoder O_o
22:53 OldCoder Thank goodness for backups
22:53 VanessaE an Unknown Block, at that
22:53 OldCoder Yes
22:53 OldCoder I saved that world
22:54 OldCoder I will still find that block somebody. I also have the lavaworld.
22:54 VanessaE it looks like a post-nuclear-holocaust world now ;-)
22:54 OldCoder Oh, yes
22:59 iqualfragile finished your pilzadam-world?
23:04 Octupus Oppa Gangnam style
23:05 OldCoder iqualfragile, Just getting back to work now. Excuse delays. There were people with difficulties.
23:05 OldCoder Just came out of PMs
23:05 OldCoder I will summarize everything very shortly
23:06 OldCoder I promise it will be interesting
23:11 T_A_N_K i'm making a mother goosing portal gun and an upgrade table
23:12 T_A_N_K only after you hit level 10 in xp can you upgrade a mining laser to a portal gun
23:12 NekoGloop I would like the portal gun on its own xD
23:12 T_A_N_K well, yea i'm releasing that too, but the upgrade aspect would be the ultimate thing for servers :D
23:18 OldCoder
23:19 OldCoder Not sure what to do about LM
23:19 OldCoder We will see if he sets up his VPS or wishes one of my worlds
23:19 OldCoder
23:19 OldCoder Stopping servers to add all kinds of stuff
23:20 NekoGloop Add the following: charcoal
23:20 NekoGloop I think you are lacking it.
23:21 OldCoder Charcoal?
23:21 OldCoder Going in
23:21 OldCoder No, I have it
23:22 OldCoder Not in Skyblock
23:22 OldCoder This update is going to be significant. Hold on a bit.
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23:25 OldCoder M13, wb
23:25 M13 thnx ummm
23:25 M13
23:26 OldCoder ummm?
23:26 M13 How did you get it to cross compile
23:26 OldCoder I will show you
23:26 OldCoder ATM Lots of new changes coming
23:26 OldCoder Hold on
23:26 M13 i get a error about windres.exe
23:26 OldCoder So you're speaking to me?
23:26 OldCoder nvm
23:27 M13 yep
23:27 OldCoder PilzAdam fork coming
23:27 M13 what?
23:27 OldCoder New world
23:27 M13 ok
23:27 M13 so..
23:27 M13
23:27 M13 how do I fix this error
23:27 M13 the error with windres.exe
23:28 OldCoder M13 See above
23:28 OldCoder Busy ATM
23:28 M13 ok
23:28 M13 srry
23:29 OldCoder
23:29 M13 umm im not OP on #minetest-m13 :|
23:29 OldCoder Is there a safe way to remove fire from the tnt mod?
23:29 M13 yes
23:29 OldCoder M13, can this wait please?
23:29 OldCoder O.K.
23:29 OldCoder Can somebody tell me how to remove fire from tnt?
23:29 M13 yes
23:29 M13 I can do it
23:29 OldCoder Then proceed
23:29 M13 here
23:30 M13 Ill edit the code and paste it in pastebin ok
23:30 OldCoder Then proceed
23:30 OldCoder K
23:30 NekoGloop minetest.register_alias("fire:basic_flame", "air")
23:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, is that all?
23:30 OldCoder Wait
23:30 OldCoder If I do that
23:30 NekoGloop Probably not but will stop unknown blocks.
23:30 OldCoder Hmm
23:30 OldCoder M13, proceed with edits
23:31 OldCoder This is all I need to proceed with PilzAdam world
23:34 M13 http://pastebin.com/NsCWW5he
23:34 OldCoder Reviewing
23:35 M13 hmmmk
23:35 M13 does it look ok?
23:35 OldCoder No
23:35 OldCoder I think I'd better drop tnt temporarily
23:35 M13 :(
23:36 OldCoder Don't be :(
23:36 OldCoder I think he should make the change
23:36 M13 i disabled fire
23:36 OldCoder Booting worlds in a moment
23:36 OldCoder Yes
23:36 OldCoder But will it break on the other references?
23:36 OldCoder Don't worry
23:36 M13 ok
23:36 OldCoder Just dropping tnt temporarily
23:36 M13 ok
23:37 OldCoder Anybody got any other mod additions or updates?
23:37 OldCoder No?
23:37 M13 this has been the best day ever :)
23:37 OldCoder All right
23:37 OldCoder How so?
23:37 M13 I made a Program
23:37 OldCoder Ah
23:37 OldCoder Good
23:37 M13 A Compiling Program
23:37 M13 Ita Called M13's Minetest-Compiler
23:38 OldCoder ??
23:38 OldCoder Explain
23:38 OldCoder I can read while testing
23:39 M13 ok
23:39 M13 Well it compiles Minetest Lolz
23:40 OldCoder ??
23:40 OldCoder All right
23:40 M13 Its for Debian/Ubuntu?mint Linux
23:40 anunakki omg vbox just died during xorg compile
23:40 OldCoder How is it different than the buildbot?
23:40 anunakki pissed >:|
23:40 OldCoder It will come back
23:40 anunakki lol
23:40 M13 lol
23:40 anunakki nthat was strange
23:40 M13 anyway it dont cross-compile it compiles
23:40 anunakki never seen vbox crash before
23:40 M13 I have Lolz
23:41 M13 Every 10 Minutes
23:41 OldCoder M13, How is it different?
23:41 anunakki damn
23:41 OldCoder iqualfragile, the music does take a while to download!
23:41 M13 what do you mean different?
23:41 iqualfragile i told you
23:41 OldCoder buildbot vs. whatever you have done
23:42 M13 It runs like BuildBot but Compiles for Linux and Not Windows
23:42 M13 0_0
23:42 M13 Idea
23:42 M13 Lightbulb
23:42 OldCoder Folks the media load will be slower now...
23:42 OldCoder But apparently there is music!
23:42 M13 Im going to make it do both :-)
23:43 OldCoder Hey
23:43 OldCoder seagulls!
23:43 M13 heh???
23:43 M13 ok
23:43 M13 lolz
23:43 anunakki ugh and of course now the make install fails
23:43 anunakki lol
23:43 anunakki fml
23:43 OldCoder anunakki, :-)
23:43 anunakki that shits been installing for like 2 days
23:43 OldCoder iqualfragile, will people like this?
23:43 M13 hahahaha
23:43 OldCoder Who wants to hear waves in Minetest?
23:43 M13 that sucks
23:43 OldCoder Coming up
23:43 anunakki rofl yea it does
23:43 M13 ME
23:43 anunakki wonder if its cause i was runnign vbox
23:43 anunakki and playing minetest
23:44 anunakki and had chrome open withl ike 32 tabs
23:44 M13 most likely
23:44 M13 how much CPU and RAM do you have
23:44 anunakki screw you amd vision
23:44 anunakki i miss my quad core :(
23:44 anunakki 4gb ram
23:44 OldCoder
23:44 iqualfragile the whole fork or the music?
23:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, music
23:44 M13 AMD ohhh..... AMD = Shit
23:44 OldCoder Starting it all now
23:44 iqualfragile i think they will definitly like the music
23:44 anunakki lol, i'm an amd guy
23:44 anunakki always have been
23:45 OldCoder iqualfragile, There are error glitches though
23:45 OldCoder Try it in a minute
23:45 M13 Im gb guy
23:45 anunakki atleast you're not an intel guy
23:45 anunakki :P
23:45 M13 I like aftermarket but Intel is ok
23:45 OldCoder
23:45 OldCoder Here we go:
23:45 anunakki i'm thinking about buying a new laptop
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23:46 anunakki thinking about going asus
23:46 M13 OOOOooooo you were running VBox on a laptop Hahahaha
23:46 anunakki rofl
23:46 anunakki yup
23:46 M13 smrt
23:46 OldCoder 1. OctuWater in most worlds. 2. Pilz Clouds added. 3. Carts dropped. 4. Minetest Music! 5. PilzAdam World at port 30010.
23:46 anunakki it runs fine with one vm with minimal specs
23:46 M13 yea
23:46 OldCoder anunakki, M13, VanessaE, NekoGloop, iqualfragile, RealBadAngel_ See above!
23:46 OldCoder
23:46 anunakki 16gb hdd and 512 ram
23:46 anunakki mb*
23:47 NekoGloop Carts dropped?
23:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, iqualfragile said to and nobody objected
23:47 OldCoder Do you need them?
23:47 NekoGloop I must not have been here.
23:47 M13 OldCoder, How do you make ur name red???
23:47 NekoGloop Because they're quite nice and useful ^^
23:47 iqualfragile are you actualy using them?
23:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, he says they are buggy and PilzAfam dislikes them
23:47 OldCoder You two decide
23:47 NekoGloop I use them in singleplayer
23:47 OldCoder M13, wait please
23:47 M13 ok
23:48 OldCoder Consensus regarding carts?
23:48 iqualfragile usefull? they are hanging up on every stair
23:48 NekoGloop Havent made one in the server yet, been using my iron for other things.
23:48 NekoGloop Yes they are quite useful.
23:48 iqualfragile plus they are laggy
23:48 iqualfragile im talking about server-experience
23:48 NekoGloop A bit laggy.
23:48 OldCoder Hmm
23:48 OldCoder NekoGloop, talk to him about improving them
23:48 OldCoder
23:48 anunakki and fixed the install
23:48 OldCoder Everybody
23:49 anunakki fwew
23:49 * anunakki wipes brow
23:49 M13 OldCoder, should I make a Program to read ebooks on Linux?
23:49 anunakki yes, M13 you should
23:49 OldCoder Please try (a) the music (b) the octuwater (c) the new clouds (d) the PilzAdam world
23:49 OldCoder
23:49 M13 thought the terminal
23:49 OldCoder M13, Evince will do it
23:49 OldCoder PilzAdam World is now running at 30010
23:49 anunakki also, do you have a stash of secretzz ebooks?!
23:49 OldCoder TNT is omitted
23:49 anunakki please share
23:49 OldCoder anunakki, Who?
23:49 M13 ok
23:49 anunakki both of you
23:49 OldCoder anunakki, I have free books on my site
23:49 M13 anunakki
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23:49 OldCoder Hold on for link
23:49 anunakki lol i throw my ebooks on google drive like a boss
23:50 M13 are you running linux
23:50 anunakki no, win 7
23:50 M13 suck!!!
23:50 anunakki but i do run arch and debian on other machiens
23:50 NekoGloop win XP on my comp.
23:50 OldCoder Free books; http://oldcoder.org/etext/
23:50 anunakki and i have an old toaster
23:50 anunakki runnign fbsd
23:50 NekoGloop iOS 6.0 on this
23:50 anunakki with fluxbox and cairo-dock
23:50 * NekoGloop is on an ipad
23:50 anunakki and everyone thinks its os x
23:50 OldCoder And some book recommendations: http://oldcoder.org/general/booknotes/
23:50 OldCoder
23:50 OldCoder O.K.
23:50 anunakki <3 ty OldCoder
23:50 OldCoder Somebody let me know if PilzAdam World works
23:50 M13 OldCoder do you have the Hunger Games?
23:50 OldCoder anunakki, Enjoy!
23:51 OldCoder M13, The game or the book? Neither yet
23:51 OldCoder I read the Japanese original
23:51 M13 ok
23:51 anunakki deep time looks good
23:51 OldCoder It is interesting
23:51 anunakki you like the same kind of shit i like
23:51 OldCoder All: I recommend Accelerando on my site. Interesting book also
23:51 anunakki :)
23:51 OldCoder anunakki, All right
23:52 OldCoder Well, somebody; does the MT Music work for you?
23:52 OldCoder I need to suppress those warning messages
23:52 OldCoder Hmm
23:52 anunakki i dont have any sound in minetest
23:52 OldCoder PilzAdam world just broke
23:52 OldCoder Checking
23:53 anunakki yes
23:53 anunakki xorg finished
23:53 anunakki time for fluxbox and cairo-dock
23:53 OldCoder anunakki, good
23:53 anunakki then its pretty much finished on my end
23:53 anunakki you can take it from there
23:53 anunakki i also installed it with source
23:53 anunakki so you can modify whatever you need
23:53 anunakki and just recompile kernel
23:53 OldCoder Good
23:53 OldCoder Stopping worlds to remove PilzAdam temporarily
23:54 OldCoder anunakki, I will build MT there
23:54 anunakki XD well i wouldnt suggest it
23:54 anunakki its on my laptop
23:54 anunakki soon as i close her the server will go down
23:54 OldCoder I meant
23:54 OldCoder in my copy
23:54 anunakki ohhh
23:54 anunakki sweet
23:54 anunakki also, i just got my old vps that i forgot all about back
23:54 anunakki from phantomcircuit
23:55 anunakki its not a very good package and probably wont support mt
23:55 anunakki but its debian
23:55 anunakki probably be alot easier to try over there
23:55 anunakki and its in europe
23:55 OldCoder That is positive!
23:55 OldCoder Shall we go try it?
23:55 anunakki sure, i'm just concerned about specs
23:55 OldCoder Starting world
23:55 anunakki it should work fine though
23:55 OldCoder Can't be worse than the FreeBSD
23:55 OldCoder meet you in PM in a moment
23:55 OldCoder
23:55 anunakki k
23:56 OldCoder Feedback from all requested regarding music, PilzAdam world, and clouds
23:56 OldCoder I am in PM with anunakki making another server
23:56 OldCoder Page me if you need me
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23:59 M13 OldCoder, do you know how to code shell sctipt?

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