Time Nick Message 00:02 Octupus Any1 a linux link for a usb 00:03 OldCoder anunakki, wb 00:03 OldCoder Octupus, Ubuntu and Mint will 00:03 OldCoder Octupus, try Puppy Linux 00:03 OldCoder Small and simple 00:03 Octupus ok 00:03 anunakki ty lol sorry bout that things got spicey between my girl and i and my laptop is on like a 45 minute inactivity sleep mode haha 00:03 Octupus puppy linux for usb download 00:04 OldCoder anunakki, PM when gcc build is done 00:04 OldCoder Or there is news 00:04 anunakki k 00:04 Octupus i dont know what to do XD 00:07 OldCoder Octupus, I can help you with that; but probably not today. It's already getting a bit late. 00:07 OldCoder Anybody else want to tackle a Puppy Linux USB install? 00:07 Octupus http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows 00:07 Octupus im on that 00:08 OldCoder Yes 00:08 OldCoder Octupus, I can probably help with that tomorrow or the next day 00:10 Octupus i think i got it 00:10 OldCoder k 00:11 Octupus it says to look for an iso 00:11 Octupus do i create 1 00:11 * OldCoder laughs 00:11 OldCoder Octupus, would tomorrow be all right? 00:11 Octupus idk 00:11 Octupus XD 00:11 OldCoder Reviewing 00:12 OldCoder Did you download the Pen Drive Linux installer? 00:12 Octupus yes 00:12 Octupus im stuck at the iso part 00:12 OldCoder Select Ubuntu Desktop Edition from the dropdown list 00:13 OldCoder That should download an ISO file 00:13 OldCoder Did it? 00:13 Octupus 12.04? 00:13 OldCoder Yes 00:13 OldCoder That is Ubuntu 00:13 Octupus ok then 00:13 Octupus browse? 00:13 OldCoder ? 00:13 OldCoder Go on 00:14 Octupus it says select your ubuntu-12.04 00:14 Octupus *desktop*.iso 00:14 OldCoder Good 00:15 Octupus thats where i stuck 00:15 OldCoder How are you stuck? 00:15 Octupus idk what to click XD 00:15 OldCoder I hate GUIs 00:15 OldCoder Have I ever mentioned that? 00:15 OldCoder Hold on 00:15 Octupus i just put in my usb and name it as ubuntu 00:16 OldCoder Find the ISO and double click on its name 00:16 Octupus where wud i find that 00:16 OldCoder Octupus, I cannot comment unless I can see. Are you able to make a screenshot? 00:16 Octupus no :( 00:17 OldCoder I am sorry but I cannot see what you see. There should be a file to open the ISO file in the installer. 00:17 Octupus i dont see any 00:17 OldCoder If you cannot see it you must speak with somebody who does not hate GUIs. 00:17 OldCoder CLI is always better than GUI 00:17 OldCoder Except games 00:17 OldCoder Can you describe what you see? 00:18 Octupus Browse to your ubuntu-12.04*desktop*.iso --> (browse button) 00:18 OldCoder No; in the installer 00:18 OldCoder The installer should be a program 00:18 Octupus yes 00:18 Octupus i see the drop down thingy 00:18 Octupus the beowse thingy 00:18 Octupus *browse 00:18 Octupus and my usb 00:19 NakedFury update the main dokutest post and did a bump for the thread. tomorrow ill work on another mod and maybe one of the three: Light, High, Dark 00:19 OldCoder NakedFury, O.K. Have fun 00:19 Octupus it says look for an iso 00:19 OldCoder NakedFury, should be in all the worlds now 00:19 NakedFury ok 00:19 OldCoder Octupus, Yes. I know. But I cannot see what you see. 00:19 Octupus but idk where to frigging find it 00:20 OldCoder Neither do I. 00:20 OldCoder Octupus, Try Puppy Linux instead 00:20 Octupus http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button 00:20 Octupus im there 00:20 OldCoder Reviewing 00:20 Octupus the first picture 00:21 OldCoder Oh... 00:21 Octupus the lond bar thing 00:21 OldCoder http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Uni-USB-Installer3.jpg 00:21 OldCoder Get to that 00:22 Octupus hmmm 00:22 Octupus SHit dis is hard 00:23 OldCoder It is a GUI 00:23 OldCoder It is supposed to be point and click 00:23 OldCoder <--- Hates GUIs 00:24 Octupus i still cant find it :( 00:24 mrtux Octupus, PM 00:24 mrtux OldCoder, I hate GUI's sometimes too 00:24 OldCoder Ha 01:18 Octupus OldCoder,Did u code your own website 01:27 anunakki hmm 01:27 anunakki how do i determine coordinates 01:27 anunakki on a map 01:27 anunakki for teleport pads 01:29 anunakki nvm 01:29 anunakki f6 01:29 anunakki f5 01:38 Octupus some1 tell me if this wud work 01:40 Octupus minetest_register_node (Octu_blocks:Green_water) (4,7,53) (green_water:flowing) 01:40 Octupus wud that work? 01:44 Octupus HELLO 01:49 VanessaE hiall 01:49 Octupus hi vanessa 01:49 Octupus i wud like to make a mod just water blocks 01:49 Octupus green water yellow water red water 01:49 VanessaE couldn't tell you how, I've never used liquids. 01:49 VanessaE er modded them 01:50 Octupus can u show me to the block codes 01:50 Octupus the default block codes? 01:50 VanessaE I wouldn't know about them 01:50 VanessaE except that they're default:water_source and default:water_flowing or some such 01:51 Octupus yes but like to find the cods for the default blocks 01:51 Octupus 'like tree and wood and brick 01:51 VanessaE (so they're probably in minetest_game/mods/default/init.lua I guess 01:51 Octupus thank u 01:52 Octupus ok 01:52 Octupus easy code now :D 01:52 Octupus just need to change the registered names :D 01:53 VanessaE have fun 01:55 T_A_N_K is there a way to use your own textures and not server textures? 01:55 OldCoder Back 01:56 OldCoder Octupus, Got the USB working? 01:56 OldCoder VanessaE, I have minetest.org now 01:56 VanessaE tank; sure, any texture pack will override the server's textures. 01:56 Octupus nope 01:56 VanessaE OldCoder: cool 01:56 Octupus im coding atm coder 01:56 OldCoder Octupus, good 01:56 VanessaE T_A_N_K: ^^ 01:57 Octupus finish my code 01:57 Octupus now i just need to see if it works 02:03 Octupus hmm can some1 review this for me 02:05 Octupus http://pastebin.com/5Ed4np2A 02:05 OldCoder R 02:06 Octupus ? 02:06 Octupus I 02:06 OldCoder Reviewing 02:06 Octupus ok 02:06 NekoGloop Seems good. 02:06 NekoGloop I would make it generate ore-like in water though. 02:06 Octupus but i get an init lua problem 02:06 OldCoder OctuWater 02:06 Octupus yes coder :D 02:06 Octupus its red water :D 02:06 OldCoder This is part of the file or the entire file? 02:07 NekoGloop The thing is wrong in the flowing one 02:07 Octupus ohhh 02:07 OldCoder Octupus, you will beat your goal 02:07 Octupus where exactly 02:07 Octupus which goal? 02:07 OldCoder Will know Lua long before Christmas 02:07 NekoGloop "octuwater:red_source" instead of "octuwater:redwater_source" 02:07 Octupus ohhhh 02:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, the textures are in and working. Thanks for your time earlier. 02:08 NekoGloop Good for you. 02:08 OldCoder ?? 02:08 Octupus neko all of them say redwater 02:08 OldCoder No; good for NakedFury 02:08 NekoGloop Means i dont really care ^^ 02:08 OldCoder NekoGloop, make more ores; we need them 02:08 OldCoder And people do like them 02:09 NekoGloop Octupus: liquid_alternative_source = "octuwater:redwater_source" 02:09 NekoGloop It needs that instead of what,s there. 02:09 NekoGloop s/,/'/ 02:09 Octupus liquid_alternative_source = "OctuWater:redwater_source", 02:09 Octupus what need to be added 02:09 NekoGloop Look at the pastebin 02:10 Octupus ahh i see it 02:10 NekoGloop ^^ 02:10 Octupus thanks neko 02:10 Octupus it said red_source 02:11 NekoGloop OldCoder: Arent there enough ores already? 02:11 Octupus make a boat mod then :D 02:11 NekoGloop What they need is a use. 02:12 Octupus neko i will post my problem 02:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, No. There are not enough ores. I wish more Gloopores in particular. 02:12 Octupus from the debug 02:12 Octupus it said it failed to run init.lua 02:12 NekoGloop Anything more specific? 02:13 Octupus hmmm maybe the code was written wrng 02:14 Octupus OldCoder,i didnt write the whole code i just altered it a bit 02:15 Octupus from the default blocks 02:16 OldCoder It is a start 02:16 OldCoder We can practice basic Lu 02:16 OldCoder We can practice basic Lua 02:16 OldCoder Others will help 02:17 NekoGloop I did gloopblocks first, somethin simple. 02:17 NekoGloop Crafting killed me. 02:17 NekoGloop Who the hell decided lua tables needed commas anyway? 02:17 Octupus idk 02:18 Octupus hmmm my debug isnt openinng 02:19 NekoGloop Try closing minetest and try again 02:19 Octupus OldCoder,if i ran the code through codepad will it come out? 02:20 VanessaE OldCoder: pm.. 02:20 * NekoGloop sets out a plate of apples 02:21 OldCoder 02:21 NekoGloop Something healthy this time! ^^ 02:21 OldCoder Octupus, Only the basic code 02:21 OldCoder Octupus, not this because it is part of MT 02:21 OldCoder Which CodePad does not have 02:22 Octupus oh 02:22 Octupus so there is no way to test it 02:22 NekoGloop Its called play mt ^^ 02:22 Octupus yes but my init files doesnt load properlt 02:22 Octupus properly 02:23 NekoGloop What does the cmd window spit out? 02:26 Octupus hmmmmm i wonder y my init files are working 02:27 Octupus 22:11:27: VERBOSE[main]: error_message = ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Users\Johnny\Desktop\minetest-0.4.3-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\OctuWater\init.lua 02:28 NekoGloop Higher. 02:28 VanessaE there's more. pastebin the entire error section 02:28 Octupus ok 02:28 NekoGloop Above "========END OF ERROR FROM LUA=========" 02:28 VanessaE but not here 02:28 VanessaE of course 02:29 Octupus http://pastebin.com/KsiL756s 02:30 NekoGloop You cant have capital letters in the modname 02:30 VanessaE Octupus: all lowercase only. 02:30 NekoGloop (I didnt know that xD) 02:30 Octupus XD *facepalm* 02:30 Octupus i feel so dumb 02:30 NekoGloop I thought that was just some kinda imposed rule. 02:31 NekoGloop Like the texture naming thingy. 02:31 VanessaE haha 02:31 Octupus i still got an error 02:32 NekoGloop You probably didnt rename the folder the mod is in. 02:32 Octupus i did 02:32 Octupus octuwater 02:32 NekoGloop Did you change init.lua? 02:32 Octupus is how i put it 02:32 Octupus all the capitals to lower 02:33 Octupus (0) (0) 02:33 Octupus no 02:33 NekoGloop What was the error? 02:33 OldCoder i feel so dumb 02:33 Octupus the same from last time 02:33 OldCoder You are like at the start 02:33 OldCoder Give it a little time 02:33 NekoGloop Did you save the file before trying to load it? 02:33 VanessaE foldername must exactly match the mod name in the init.lua, so octuwater and octuwater:green_flowing or whatever. 02:34 Octupus ohhh all octuwater with capitals must be lower 02:34 NekoGloop Yes. 02:34 VanessaE yep 02:34 Octupus ohhh 02:35 OldCoder This is why it won't work at CodePad 02:35 OldCoder CodePad doesn't have the rest to lock into that 02:35 NekoGloop Use notepad++ 02:35 Octupus i have it 02:36 Octupus but im not sure how to use it 02:36 NekoGloop Notepad++? 02:36 Octupus yes 02:36 NekoGloop Simple. 02:36 NekoGloop Load up notepad++, then tell it to open the .lua file of your choice. 02:36 Octupus oh 02:37 NekoGloop I have mine set up so notepad++ is my default for .lua 02:37 Octupus DAMN 02:37 Octupus didnt work 02:37 OldCoder Octupus, Debug 02:37 OldCoder is a good word too 02:37 OldCoder You are now a Debugger 02:38 Octupus lolz 02:38 OldCoder VanessaE, my worlds have moved to the minetest.org domain 02:38 VanessaE cool 02:40 OldCoder VanessaE, there are more mods too. Update getting Twittered shortly. 02:40 VanessaE cool again. :-) 02:40 VanessaE did you grab the latest homedecor? (yesterday evening) 02:42 Octupus http://pastebin.com/RDjfL3yX 02:42 NekoGloop I think i have the latest homedecor myself. 02:42 Octupus some1 tell me what i did wrong there 02:42 NekoGloop Did you make it depend on default? 02:42 Octupus yes 02:42 Octupus the original code is default 02:43 Octupus i just altered it a bit 02:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: latest has a windowless bedroom door. 02:43 Octupus cool 02:43 NekoGloop OH! OH! OH! I FOUND IT!! 02:43 Octupus found what 02:43 OldCoder ? 02:43 NekoGloop You need to add a line with }) before the register_alias 02:44 Octupus can u show me 02:44 NekoGloop At the end of line 44. 02:44 NekoGloop Add a new line. 02:44 NekoGloop Add }) to the new line 02:45 NekoGloop Test in minetest 02:45 Octupus ok 02:45 NekoGloop ??? 02:45 NekoGloop Profit. 02:45 Octupus if it dont work :l 02:45 Octupus IT WILL WORK 02:45 NekoGloop If it dont work, we will make it work. 02:46 MiJyn hi 02:46 Octupus hi 02:46 Octupus neko it does have the {) 02:47 MiJyn }) 02:47 Octupus }) 02:47 MiJyn not {( 02:47 MiJyn oh 02:47 MiJyn xD 02:47 Octupus nvm 02:47 Phahrrgis so I got this > https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+sourcepub/2634196/+listing-archive-extra and I'm not sure where to put the mods 02:47 Octupus })minetest.register_alias("mapgen_water_source", "octuwater:redwater_source") 02:47 Octupus NekoGloop,^ 02:48 NekoGloop Should work. 02:48 Octupus YAYAYAYAY 02:48 Octupus WE DID IT 02:48 Octupus WOOOT 02:48 Octupus :D 02:49 NekoGloop It was a learning experience for us both. 02:49 Octupus :D 02:49 NekoGloop I've never messed wih liquids before. 02:50 Octupus will some1 contribute to a red water image 02:50 NekoGloop Cant you just colorize the normal one? 02:50 Octupus true 02:50 Octupus hmmi cant seem to find any redwater 02:51 NekoGloop You need to colorize the default one ^^" 02:51 Octupus yes but i want redwater and regular water 02:51 NekoGloop You can do this. 02:51 Octupus how? 02:52 OldCoder By learning each step 02:52 NekoGloop Just open it in a image editor of your choice, colorize it to red, then save it in the octuwater/textures/ folder 02:52 Octupus :) 02:52 OldCoder And worrying about just that one step 02:52 OldCoder at a time 02:52 Octupus i already have a pic in there neko 02:53 NekoGloop Then use it? :P 02:53 Octupus ohhhhhh 02:53 Octupus i didnt resize the image 02:55 Octupus what do i save the picture as again 02:55 Octupus octuwater:redwater 02:55 Octupus or redwater 02:55 Octupus or red_water 02:55 VanessaE octuwater_redwater.png 02:55 VanessaE or so 02:56 Octupus ok 02:56 VanessaE whatever you want to call it as long as it's modname_objectname_variant.png (where variant could be if you have multiple colors) 02:56 VanessaE so octuwater_water_red.png is even better 02:57 NekoGloop (That format makes texture maps simpler to make) 02:57 VanessaE (yes) 02:57 NekoGloop packs, not maps. 02:57 cornernote can i release a mod under 2 licenses ? 02:57 cornernote so that the terms of both are required to be met ? 02:57 VanessaE cornernote: sure, any licenses you want as long as the code you wrote complies with both 02:57 cornernote i want to add this license to my distros - http://murphy.cz/no-whining-license/ 02:57 cornernote No Whining License 02:58 VanessaE (e.g. CC0 + WTFPL is good) 02:58 NekoGloop czech. 02:58 Octupus idk anything about licences 02:58 VanessaE my HDX texture pack is officially GFDL and unofficially WTFPL ;) 02:58 OldCoder Use CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 Unported 02:58 cornernote WTFPL means someone can use it for a commercial product, and also i think it doesnt protect the author 02:58 OldCoder Use CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 Unported 02:58 NekoGloop how in hell am i supposed to read that? 02:58 OldCoder If you wish protection 02:59 OldCoder Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial ShareAlike 02:59 Octupus hmm i might have to change the code again 02:59 Octupus to make the texture name octuwater_redwater 02:59 cornernote whats wrong with GPL ? 02:59 OldCoder cornernote, it is not about "wrong". it is about goals. 02:59 OldCoder Many licenses are good 03:00 OldCoder WTFPL 03:00 OldCoder The Batman License 03:00 cornernote i want my code to be free, forever, for everyone 03:00 VanessaE Octupus: as long as it's modname_objectname.png at least. modname_objectname_variation.png is better 03:00 NakedFury I wish minetest rotate the torch textures itself, not us having to do 3 different textures 03:00 OldCoder cornernote, totally open? 03:00 cornernote and i want credit for the work i did 03:00 cornernote yes, totally open 03:00 OldCoder cornernote, then you must use CC 03:00 OldCoder cornernote, if you want credit 03:00 cornernote why not GPL ? 03:00 OldCoder cornernote, you cannot ask for credit then 03:00 Octupus so is octuwater_redwater good 03:00 VanessaE cornernote: CC-BY-SA is best for that 03:00 OldCoder Yes 03:00 VanessaE Octupus: that's fine. octuwater_water_red.png is best 03:00 OldCoder CC BY-SA Unported 3.0 03:00 Octupus ok 03:00 OldCoder I recommend 03:01 OldCoder CC BY-NC-SA Unported 3.0 03:01 OldCoder For those who wish to prevent commercial use 03:02 cornernote i dont want to prevent commercial use 03:02 cornernote just prevent closed source commercial use 03:03 NekoGloop Like the opposite of apple? 03:04 cornernote macs are bsd based, i dont know anything about the bsd license 03:04 NekoGloop I mean everything else they make. 03:04 Octupus i changed it to creative to see if i did it right 03:05 NekoGloop Pretty much everything they make, you can get thrown in jail for releasing the material the casing is made from. 03:05 cornernote yes, but they make it, so thats fine 03:05 Octupus lalalalalala BOOM it worked 03:05 cornernote usually its apple that is leading, and others follow 03:05 Octupus :D 03:05 OldCoder Octupus, with no fuss 03:05 OldCoder You have coded 03:05 OldCoder This was forboded 03:05 OldCoder By your determination 03:05 OldCoder Soon MT will be 03:05 OldCoder You see 03:05 Octupus with the help of nekogloop and vannesae 03:05 OldCoder An Octupus Nation 03:05 OldCoder 03:05 VanessaE :) 03:05 OldCoder Of course 03:06 Octupus Thanks Guys 03:06 * OldCoder has a meeting 03:06 Octupus ok time to upload this mod 03:06 OldCoder Congratulations on Mod 03:06 OldCoder 03:06 Octupus Thanks Coder 03:06 Octupus there is going to be another tonight 03:06 cornernote OC - i am reading more about GPL now - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyUseGPL 03:06 cornernote so i assume if someone makes my mod better, it must be free 03:07 Octupus guys whos up for greenwater? 03:07 cornernote but if someone makes a whole new game and uses my mod, it doesnt have to be free 03:07 NekoGloop Mossy water. 03:07 Octupus :D 03:07 Octupus XD 03:07 Octupus i just flooded the whole area with the redwater 03:08 Octupus insted of octuwater_water_green 03:09 Octupus it will be octuwater_water_moss 03:09 NekoGloop octuwater:water_moss 03:09 Octupus yep 03:09 cornernote OC, no i am wrong -- A system incorporating a GPL-covered program is an extended version of that program. The GPL says that any extended version of the program must be released under the GPL if it is released at all. 03:09 cornernote However, in many cases you can distribute the GPL-covered software alongside your proprietary system. To do this validly, you must make sure that the free and non-free programs communicate at arms length, that they are not combined in a way that would make them effectively a single program. 03:10 NekoGloop (Linespam is linespam, no matter how you square it) 03:10 Octupus neko isnt it octuwater:redwater 03:11 NekoGloop I have no idea. 03:11 VanessaE NekoGloop: this is minetest we're talking about - should the question be whether he *cubes* it? ;-) 03:11 NekoGloop You named it, not me. 03:11 Octupus true true 03:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^node 03:11 * NekoGloop runs 03:11 VanessaE heh 03:12 NekoGloop To teh powah of teh node!!!! 03:12 NekoGloop (Number expected, got table) 03:12 NekoGloop FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU----- 03:12 VanessaE lol 03:12 NekoGloop Actually i think nodedefs are userdata 03:13 NekoGloop Userdata is basically read-only tables. 03:18 Octupus i finished moss water 03:18 Octupus i need a texture for it now 03:18 NekoGloop Sweet. 03:20 Octupus damn didnt work 03:20 Octupus hmm let me review 03:21 NekoGloop How does one fail at making an image work? xD 03:21 NakedFury are any of the default items no longer used? 03:22 NakedFury like tnt 03:22 NakedFury scorched stuff? 03:22 NakedFury furance_fire_bg anf furnace_fire_fg? 03:22 NekoGloop Um... Mossycobble is not used unless you have a mod, schorched stuff no, rats no, cooked rats no, tnt no, and o think that's it. 03:22 NekoGloop There's a mod that adds tnt thou 03:23 NakedFury but in default is no longer used 03:23 NakedFury ? 03:23 NekoGloop And those two images are used for the fire in the furnace GUI. 03:23 NekoGloop Yes. 03:23 NakedFury I never see tnt in creative 03:23 NakedFury footsteps? 03:23 NekoGloop Because it doesnt exist. 03:24 Octupus no the code dummy 03:24 NekoGloop Footsteps are in skyblock 03:24 Octupus http://pastebin.com/jwnjT9XM 03:24 NakedFury this game has too many innecesary textures 03:24 Octupus NekoGloop,^ 03:24 Octupus review please 03:25 Octupus does different item item go into a different folder? 03:26 NekoGloop ? 03:26 Octupus review thatplease 03:26 Octupus tel me if there is any errors 03:28 cornernote line 1 shouldnt start with closing brackets 03:29 cornernote and line 45, although it doesnt matter, would look nicer on its own line 03:31 Octupus cornernote line1 03:31 Octupus it doesnt start with anything right 03:32 cornernote it shouldnt 03:32 cornernote you should remove the }) 03:32 Octupus ok 03:32 Octupus other than that is everything good 03:37 Octupus NekoGloop,any water suggestions ? 03:37 NekoGloop Uh... 03:38 Octupus im doing 1 more then release 03:38 NekoGloop Do we even need the water you already gave us? O.o 03:38 Octupus SO 03:38 Octupus its my first mod dont be judging 03:39 NekoGloop I was gonna make pure water for my gamemode which i discontinued. 03:41 OldCoder this game has too many innecesary textures 03:41 OldCoder This is why you are creating more :p 03:41 OldCoder I happen to like textures though 03:42 NakedFury I mean 3 torch textures? really? 03:42 Octupus coder i made a new water :) 03:42 OldCoder Octupus, I C 03:42 OldCoder It sounds very refreshing 03:42 Octupus i got 2 now 03:42 OldCoder I shall have to try it 03:42 OldCoder You should bottle it 03:43 OldCoder In virtual bottles 03:43 OldCoder and sell for bitcoins 03:43 OldCoder 03:43 NekoGloop I would have made pure water via a filter of some kind, thus replacing the filter with a "used filter" that when "cleaned" in the craftgrid gives the filter and a dirt block. 03:45 Octupus im talking with cornernote 03:46 Octupus hi sascha 03:46 Octupus :) 03:49 Octupus NekoGloop,how do u make the give thing 03:49 NekoGloop Its based on the name of the node. 03:49 NekoGloop Which is what you dont put in the {} when making a node. 03:50 Octupus ? 03:50 NakedFury what cant the game rotate 1 torch texture as neccesary? 03:50 NekoGloop NakedFury: Because this isnt mineshit. 03:51 NakedFury well mineshit has it better here 03:51 NakedFury 1 torch texture instead of 3 03:51 NakedFury less work 03:51 NakedFury much less 03:51 NekoGloop But you cant custom what the torch looks like then. 03:51 Octupus neko 03:51 NekoGloop squiddy. 03:51 Octupus i want to make the give code so ppl can do /giveme octuwater:redwater 03:51 VanessaE exactly, if it just rotated one texture, I couldn't make flames rise from an upside down (ceiling) torch 03:51 NekoGloop Dude. That's automatic. 03:52 Octupus y cant i get it 03:52 NekoGloop Because you're doing it wrong! 03:52 NakedFury there would be no upside down torch 03:52 NakedFury its weird anyway 03:52 Octupus how to do it then 03:52 NekoGloop /giveme octuwater:water_red_source 03:52 VanessaE oh no. they're too useful, NF. 03:52 NakedFury weird 03:52 NekoGloop Cool story bro. 03:53 Octupus ddint work neko 03:53 NekoGloop You wrote the goddamn code, not me. 03:53 NekoGloop What did you call the goddamn node? 03:53 Octupus octuwater:redwater 03:54 NekoGloop You couldnt have called both of them the same thing. 03:54 Octupus the png was 03:54 Octupus octuwater_water_red 03:54 NekoGloop DOES THE FUCKING PNG FILE MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH THE NAME OF THE FUCKING NODE?! GODDAMN, PEOPLE ARE FUCKING MORONS.... 03:54 Octupus XD 03:55 Octupus XD 03:55 Octupus XD 03:57 Octupus hmmmm 03:57 hmmmm hmmmmm 03:57 hmmmm that's the third time you highlighted me today 03:57 Octupus lolz 03:57 Octupus srry 03:57 Octupus il make sure to do 5 next time 03:57 NekoGloop I suggest a less generic name. 03:58 Octupus like? 03:58 NekoGloop Not you. 03:58 NakedFury hm man you need another nick or something other than hm 03:58 Octupus il just leave it be 03:59 Octupus until i figure out this give thingy 03:59 Octupus last water of the day 04:08 Octupus Coder 04:09 Octupus there will be a new mod in a couple of mins for the servers 04:10 Octupus YAY i found the give :D 04:14 Octupus OldCoder,http://www.mediafire.com/?b6vdl5aavrjldtm 04:15 Octupus something for the servers :D 04:18 Octupus msg VanessaE are u there 04:18 VanessaE no, I'm there --------> 04:18 Octupus lolz 04:18 Octupus can u help me post a topic on the forum 04:18 VanessaE not right now - just go post :-) 04:19 Octupus i cant 04:19 VanessaE why> 04:19 VanessaE ? 04:19 Octupus Sorry! no permission to post new topics 04:19 VanessaE where are you tryign to post at? 04:19 Octupus mod releases 04:19 VanessaE ou can't. 04:19 VanessaE you can only post in Modding General 04:19 Octupus y 04:20 VanessaE someone else will move your topic if it fits the forum's criteria 04:20 VanessaE that's the rules for Mod Releases 04:20 VanessaE otherwise just anyone could post whatever there. 04:20 Octupus ohhh 04:20 VanessaE that section is moderated. 04:24 NekoGloop Meow, 04:26 Octupus ok finished the link 04:26 Octupus and the topic 04:26 Octupus neko wud u care to test it ? 04:30 NekoGloop iPad isnt good for mod testing 04:31 Octupus oh lolz 04:31 Octupus i made yellow water 04:31 Octupus after moss water 04:33 Phahrrgis can I drink it? 04:33 Phahrrgis the yellow water 04:34 Octupus :l 04:34 Octupus if u want lemonade then yes 04:34 Octupus with some blue berries 04:34 Octupus hmm bllue berries isnt a bad mod 04:34 VanessaE bedtime for me.. night all 04:35 Octupus night 04:54 hmmmm ugh 04:55 hmmmm can i nuke every x86 computer created before 2005? 04:56 hmmmm i can optimize gradientMap2D to be around 3 times faster by using fisttp 04:56 hmmmm well, my version of noise_gradient2d() 04:56 Octupus ? 05:00 NakedFury if you mean use techniques that need dual processors or 64 bit OS then yes use it. 05:02 hmmmm lol 05:02 hmmmm it's not that simple :) 06:10 M13_ hello 06:30 * CTMN is sleeping 06:34 CTMN Did anyone build a plane using mesecons? 06:47 CTMN Is any human online? 06:49 hmmmm well that sucked - i thought i would be able to get away with a single n-sized intermediate buffer for a 2d map so i don't have to recalculate noise for the v01 and v11 every new y 06:50 hmmmm how would i store the v11s that i already calced in the previous line? =/ 06:50 hmmmm if it worked out my original way, i'd be able to do an n sized intermediary for 2d, and an (n^2 + n)-sized for 3d 06:51 hmmmm turns out i'm going to have to calculate the entire lattice beforehand (so that's n^2 space for 2d, and n^3 space for 3d) 06:51 hmmmm which means lots of cache misses and a performance hit in addition to the obvious added space complexity 06:52 hmmmm but this is good because it can make the icache more coherent and easier to optimize for sse/neon 06:54 Calinou hmmmm should work at intel 06:55 hmmmm lol. don't mind me, i talk out loud to think 06:56 hmmmm as an added bonus, i'll have to make the noise lattice's size equal to the least spread value possible 06:58 hmmmm which means it's not just n^2, but rather ((sx * step_x) * 2^(num_octaves))^2 06:58 hmmmm very frustrating, just when i think i found the ideal solution, i realize something else is foobar and not very ideal 07:19 cornernote_ there are so many "im leaving" threads in the forums 07:19 cornernote_ we need a section for them 07:19 cornernote_ the "im leaving" section 07:37 Calinou lol 08:06 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 08:15 VanessaE hi 08:15 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 08:16 PilzAdam VanessaE, you want that the font in the signs mod is bigger? 08:16 VanessaE I was thinking two or three font sizes that could be switched when the text is created 08:16 VanessaE but only one font at a time of course 08:17 PilzAdam can you create the textures for a bigger font? 08:17 VanessaE I might be convinced to do that though not right now of course 08:17 PilzAdam also new background images would be nice 08:18 PilzAdam i will give my best to do this font size code 08:19 VanessaE thanks :-) 08:53 VanessaE hey Calinou. 08:53 Calinou back 09:00 Jordach good 09:00 PilzAdam morning 09:00 Jordach morning Calinou 09:07 iqualfragile morning 09:08 * Jordach just saw celeron55 post in the forums 09:08 Jordach \o/ 09:09 PilzAdam Jordach, he is talking in-dev 09:09 PilzAdam *in minetest-dev 09:10 VanessaE hi jordach 09:10 Jordach evening? VanessaE# 09:11 VanessaE early morning here 09:11 VanessaE 5:11am 09:11 Jordach yep [10:11:22] > CTCP reply TIME Sun Oct 7 05:11:26 from VanessaE 09:13 VanessaE *gasp* c55 posted!? the world is doomed! the sky is falling! the price of cheese is rising! NOOO 09:13 VanessaE :-) 09:14 * Jordach gasps at the fact c55 liked the idea of a games section 09:15 PilzAdam YAY!!!!!!!!! http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=15 09:15 VanessaE well he *did* say he wanted to focus on minetest "the engine" rather than minetest "the collection of mods we all call the game".. 09:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: \o/ 09:16 VanessaE Hm. thunder rolling outside. 09:17 iqualfragile there is no "the game" 09:17 VanessaE sure there is. 09:17 VanessaE if someone says "minetest" without a qualifier, there's a 99% chance they mean minetest_game 09:19 iqualfragile no, i guess everybody (87%) have modded their game 09:19 VanessaE no doubt 09:20 VanessaE but a modded game is not like saying there is no "game". Just as my car is still a car even though I've modded it (with a new stereo system) 09:21 iqualfragile there just is no "the game" 09:22 Jordach No topics have been posted 09:22 Jordach Be the first to post a topic in this forum. SURE! 09:23 Jordach damn 09:23 * Jordach had one vote to add a new moderator, but used it on VanessaE 09:29 Jordach i dunno what to do today 09:29 Jordach actually 09:29 Jordach yes ido 09:29 * Jordach forks xdoors2 09:30 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/doors 09:31 Jordach PilzAdam; BUG 09:31 Jordach no any texture support 09:31 PilzAdam what? 09:31 Jordach i want to have a + shape for a window 09:31 Jordach ( + = cutout) 09:32 iqualfragile the problem about far_mesh is that it does not generate meshes far away but exactly where i stand 09:33 PilzAdam yep 09:35 Jordach PilzAdam http://i.imgur.com/PHWgH.png thats what i want 09:35 Jordach not the locked shape 09:37 PilzAdam move request; http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3119 ; http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2589 09:38 PilzAdam ^ VanessaE 09:38 VanessaE working. 09:39 Jordach OldCoder, present? 09:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: can you supply license information for these in the first post please? (see file X won't do) 09:44 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/xDoors2 there 09:48 * VanessaE pokes at PilzAdam for signs of life 09:49 PilzAdam i hate the license thing in games 09:49 VanessaE it's a CYA thing, you understand :-) 09:51 VanessaE Extracted license info from README.txt and moved Minitest. What about the other one? 09:52 VanessaE (your minetest_game fork - LGPL I assume?) 09:52 PilzAdam i will collect all the mod licenses this afternoon or so 09:53 PilzAdam WTFPL would be way easier 09:53 VanessaE can't be that 09:53 VanessaE if it's a fork of minetest_game it probably has to be LGPL 09:53 PilzAdam i know 09:53 PilzAdam minetest should be WTFPL 09:55 VanessaE anyway something like what you did for Minitest is sufficient 09:55 VanessaE at least I think 09:57 PilzAdam minitest has license information 09:57 VanessaE anyway I'm going back to bed. when you've got it figured out, edit your first post and let me know 09:57 VanessaE yup I know. 09:57 VanessaE I put it there ;-) 09:58 VanessaE night all. 09:58 PilzAdam can i say: the original minetest_game is LGPL; all my changes are WTFPL? 09:59 VanessaE mmm...yeah I think that will do. 09:59 VanessaE well 09:59 VanessaE no 09:59 VanessaE it's still GPL so your license has to be that. 09:59 * Jordach does not feel well 10:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, minetest_game is LGPL 10:00 VanessaE yes I know. 10:00 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/README.txt#L30 10:01 VanessaE which means your fork has to be as well. Just waiting for you to agree to that and edit your first post so I can move the thread. 10:01 PilzAdam i have to look at the sub_mods 10:01 PilzAdam wait 2 mins. 10:01 VanessaE ok 10:01 VanessaE waiting :-) 10:01 * VanessaE does NOT go back to bed. 10:01 VanessaE ;) 10:08 PilzAdam VanessaE, done: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43366 10:09 * Jordach gives VanessaE 10$ for a Starbucks coffee 10:09 jin_xi speaking of farmesh: you guys know about this: http://www.sea-of-memes.com/LetsCode67/LetsCode67.html ? 10:09 VanessaE minor tweak, and moved. 10:12 VanessaE jin_xi: +1 10:12 PilzAdam in this list are 8 games: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3220 but in the forum section are only 5... 10:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: some are waiting for license info also. 10:14 VanessaE moved skyblock 10:17 * Jordach has started work on making a 64dots pack for minecrap 10:18 VanessaE Figured out the right license info for the Avatar one and moved it. 10:18 Jordach VanessaE - play the minecraft demo :) 10:18 VanessaE no. 10:18 PilzAdam +1 for no 10:19 Jordach minetest gameplay bores me 10:19 PilzAdam use my fork 10:19 PilzAdam and simple mobs 10:19 * Jordach is already using it....still bores me 10:20 Jordach to be more specific - mapgen needs more stuff to it 10:20 Jordach not just desert and grassland 10:20 PilzAdam there is also gravel 10:21 Jordach PilzAdam, techinical 10:36 iqualfragile then add stuff 10:39 Jordach iqualfragile, mapgen.cpp is a mess 10:39 iqualfragile clean it up? 10:39 PilzAdam +1 10:42 PilzAdam the background of the main menu should be changed to the new dirt texture 10:42 Jordach yep 10:42 Jordach it looks like sick *bleegghhhh* 10:43 PilzAdam should i pull request this? 10:43 VanessaE I use a recolored version of my cobblestone texture 10:47 Jordach wow this is taking time 10:50 VanessaE well I'm gonna try to go back to bed/sleep now. 10:50 VanessaE bbl 10:51 PilzAdam this font looks nice: http://i.imgur.com/xQfUt.png 11:25 iqualfragile pilzadam: can you split item_drop into item_pickup and item_drop? 11:25 PilzAdam why? 11:27 iqualfragile because there are some people who wish to use the pickup- without the drop-functionality (yes i know its just deleting half of the file) 11:28 PilzAdam wenn sie die vorteil haben wollen müssen sie mit den nachteilen leben. 11:30 iqualfragile oder einfach die halbe datei löschen… 11:33 * Jordach continues work on 64dots mc ed 12:18 * PilzAdam is back 12:53 Mikeonline hi 13:03 iqualfragile hi 13:13 iqualfragile cornernote: can you check the formating of your first post http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3316 13:14 iqualfragile there should not be a dot between upstream is and desired 13:23 OldCoder I am here; who rang? 13:23 OldCoder Fell asleep 13:23 RealBadAngel_ hi folks 13:23 Jordach OldCoder. i rang 13:24 Jordach OldCoder, i suggest you start improving the minetest codebase sometime 13:24 OldCoder Jordach, Of course 13:24 OldCoder As I have been known to say; one step at a time 13:24 Jordach (not minetest-classic) 13:24 * Jordach wants a Minecrap server hosted by OldCoder 13:26 anunakki gcc installed OldCoder 13:26 iqualfragile minetest or minecarft? 13:26 anunakki woke up and it was done 13:30 OldCoder anunakki, I will PM shortly. Writing to people about other matters. 13:30 OldCoder iqualfragile, Minetest 13:30 OldCoder Oh 13:30 anunakki not a problem, no rush 13:30 OldCoder I don't understand what Jordach meant by one point 13:30 iqualfragile the map-generation needs to get cleaned up 13:32 Jordach iqualfragile, it is real horrible 13:38 T_A_N_K redcrab , please grant me build on your server 13:39 * anunakki yawns 13:39 anunakki i forgot how much time and effort i put into my desktop when i ran freebsd 13:40 anunakki OldCoder, i've got freebsd installed and i'm just working on the WM stuff 13:40 anunakki cant wait till its finished its going to be sexy XD 13:40 OldCoder anunakki, I know. In a PM elsewhere but we will continue shortly. Yes regarding distro which needs an approriate name. 13:40 Mikeonline hm bucket uses setnode instead of build node. so bucket is griefers fav tool 13:40 OldCoder Others: Propose good names for a new OS 13:40 OldCoder BSD based 13:41 T_A_N_K MineBSD 13:41 OldCoder Ha 13:41 OldCoder If it were MT centric yes 13:52 RealBadAngel_ since Windows is already taken i suggest Doors 14:00 Jordach anunakki, SonicBSD 14:00 Jordach SonicOS 14:00 anunakki hmm, nice 14:00 anunakki added to the list 14:04 Mikeonline changing set to place_node in bucket will prevent watering protected areas 14:05 Mikeonline iam trying to improve it more now 14:08 anunakki http://piratepad.net/AlAxVoGHba anyone with any name suggestions feel free to add to the pad 14:21 * Jordach is working at my texture pack 14:41 rubenwardy anyone know where c55 is, and when he is coming back? 14:44 Jordach rubenwardy, /join #minetest-dev 14:44 Jordach see? 14:45 rubenwardy i am joined to minetest-dev already 14:47 rubenwardy is it possible to debug in Ubuntu w/o using an IDE 14:47 rubenwardy ? 14:47 FreeFull Yes, with gdb 14:48 rubenwardy what would be easier, code::blocks or gdb 14:49 rubenwardy beb 14:49 rubenwardy * brb 14:49 OldCoder anunakki, I have PMd 14:50 Jordach hello Calinou 14:50 * PilzAdam is back 14:50 Jordach hello Phahrrgis 14:50 Jordach PilzAdam 14:50 Jordach ** 14:50 PilzAdam RealBadAngel_, how is the texture progress 14:50 PilzAdam ? 15:02 rubenwardy how do you use gdb 15:02 rubenwardy ? 15:03 Octupus hi mijyn 15:04 rubenwardy FreeFall 15:04 iqualfragile just enter gdb programtorun 15:04 anunakki lol 15:04 iqualfragile then you get a gdb-shell 15:04 anunakki its kind of basic debugging man 15:04 anunakki http://cs.baylor.edu/~donahoo/tools/gdb/tutorial.html 15:04 iqualfragile there you enter run 15:05 iqualfragile then the program runs, you wait for it to crash and get a stackdump 15:05 iqualfragile done :D 15:06 rubenwardy worked it out, $ gdb minetest then (gdb) run 15:07 iqualfragile thats kindof what i told you 15:08 * Calinou is playing minecraft 15:08 Calinou awesome community 15:08 * PilzAdam slaps Calinou 15:09 * Jordach is making a texture pack for minecraft 15:09 PilzAdam finaly: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/f03edb846b12c66dce36990e3fa963b1e0f0b4c6 15:09 PilzAdam ^ no shadows when removing lava anymore 15:10 iqualfragile great! 15:10 Mikeonline if i modify a register craft item on_use code. is there a way to get player/placer name? 15:10 Mikeonline or privs 15:10 iqualfragile get c55 to merge that back! 15:10 Calinou skeletons feel so drunk... they can't hit me due to lag, lol 15:11 Jordach Calinou, +1 15:11 * Calinou has 26 lvls 15:11 Calinou no enchant table 15:11 Calinou I had to die once with 22lvls on the same server to "restore" my hunger already :| 15:11 Calinou hope I won't have to do that again 15:12 * Calinou sets chat opacity to 60% 15:13 T_A_N_K http://youtu.be/CWL_tgnuev4 15:15 rubenwardy now i have set up a debugger, i do not know what to work on in minetest... 15:16 PilzAdam mapgen 15:16 rubenwardy i might try code optimisation 15:16 PilzAdam i want more biomes 15:16 rubenwardy lol : http://minetest.net/wiki/lib/exe/detail.php?id=code%3Ainner_workings_of_minetest&media=code:minetest-dfd-visio.png 15:17 rubenwardy "horribly many things" 15:24 PilzAdam i love analysis: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Ableitungsss.svg 15:25 rubenwardy wtf? 15:27 iqualfragile wo liegt das problem mit analysis? 15:28 PilzAdam ich liebe es! 15:30 PilzAdam :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEFfh5ERlg 15:36 PilzAdam wb rubenwardy 15:37 PilzAdam wb rubenwardy 15:38 rubenwardy huff 15:41 Jordach ffuh 15:41 PilzAdam ufhf 15:41 Jordach there are 4 * 4 *4 *3 combinations 15:42 Jordach 4*4*4*3 15:42 Jordach *3*3 actually (add this to the last line) 15:48 Octupus Jordach u say my mod? 15:49 Octupus *saw 15:49 Jordach ehm. what? 15:49 Octupus did u see my mod? 15:51 Octupus any1 seen my mod? 15:51 iqualfragile nope, post a link 15:51 Octupus ok 15:52 Octupus http://www.mediafire.com/?b6vdl5aavrjldtm 15:52 PilzAdam a forum link 15:53 Octupus http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3315 15:53 PilzAdam animation would be nice 15:54 iqualfragile what os are you on? 15:54 PilzAdam Kubuntu 15:55 iqualfragile just press print 15:55 Octupus pilz u dload it 15:55 iqualfragile oh, no, i meant octupus 15:55 Octupus window 15:55 iqualfragile press print and paste into paint 15:56 iqualfragile then save the immage 15:57 Octupus print ? 16:00 Jordach Calinou, i sent you a pm 16:04 Octupus i just print screen 16:04 iqualfragile yeah 16:04 Octupus hi tux 16:05 Octupus but nothing came up :l 16:05 * Calinou_ highfives Calinou 16:05 Jordach Calinou_ http://i.imgur.com/hmg6a.png 16:05 Calinou_ shit pack 16:05 Calinou_ skin looks strange :p 16:05 Jordach 64dots will have revenge 16:05 hmmmm you got a 3d player model? 16:06 hmmmm is the ability to do that new? 16:06 Calinou_ hmmmm: that's minecraft not minetest 16:06 Calinou_ flame on 16:06 hmmmm oh 16:06 * Jordach trolled sum noobs with mc 16:06 * PilzAdam kills Calinou and Calinou_ 16:06 Calinou_ * Calinou :Nickname is already in use... 16:06 * Jordach does the diving save with gold armour 16:06 Calinou_ there 8D 16:07 Octupus igualfragile,doesnt work :( 16:07 Octupus iqualfragile,doesnt work 16:10 rubenwardy is there a nyan cat mod? 16:10 PilzAdam what should it do? 16:10 PilzAdam there is nyanland or so 16:11 rubenwardy because nyan cats where taken out of 0.4.3 16:11 PilzAdam no... ? 16:12 rubenwardy yes, they were 16:12 rubenwardy or at least you might have taken it out of your minetest_game 16:13 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1493 16:13 PilzAdam & https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L109 16:13 PilzAdam they are not taken out 16:15 Octupus some1 shud readd them 16:15 Jordach PilzAdam, i once found a nyan cat on redcrab's original minetest server with a friend 16:15 PilzAdam why readd them if they are still there 16:16 rubenwardy PilzAdam, i use your minetest_game game. 16:16 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1560 16:17 PilzAdam ^ they are also in my game 16:17 Mikeonline is it possible to access the player who used a bucket? 16:17 Mikeonline placer on node place seems to be nil 16:17 PilzAdam you have to modify the bucket mod 16:17 Mikeonline yes i try 16:17 rubenwardy i have a older version: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/df439ae3961680c4c8e3afef5155107d66717f5c 16:17 Mikeonline but it does not send the player 16:18 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/67f699c3640b5cd2759ed006d975965ecf2f0522 16:18 PilzAdam Mikeonline, here you get user: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/bucket/init.lua#L38 16:19 Mikeonline ah 16:19 rubenwardy Highlighting: 16:19 rubenwardy (17:17:40) rubenwardy: *** I HAVE A OLDER VERSION: *** https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/df439ae3961680c4c8e3afef5155107d66717f5c 16:19 Mikeonline its called user not placer sender player ;) 16:19 PilzAdam rubenwardy, get a newer version 16:19 rubenwardy i just did :P 16:20 PilzAdam why did you use an old version? 16:21 PilzAdam bbl 16:21 Mikeonline but i cant catch user in minetest.item_place 16:23 Octupus Where is ieatbacos 16:25 Mikeonline yeah 16:25 M13 hello 16:25 Octupus Hi m13 16:25 Mikeonline i modified bucket against griefing players :) 16:25 Octupus is you server down 16:25 M13 I was 16:25 M13 it* 16:25 M13 server crashed 16:25 Octupus m13 i made a mod :D 16:26 M13 cool what is it? 16:26 Octupus its adds 3 new waters to mt 16:26 M13 ahh 16:26 M13 i see 16:26 Octupus http://www.mediafire.com/?b6vdl5aavrjldtm 16:26 Octupus theres the link if u wanna put it on your server 16:26 M13 ok 16:26 M13 does it spawn water? 16:27 Octupus i think so 16:27 Octupus but for right now i think it be best to use give 16:27 M13 yes me tyo 16:27 M13 to 16:27 Octupus will u put it on the server? 16:28 M13 maybe need to test it 16:28 Octupus ok 16:28 M13 hi rubenwardy 16:28 Octupus its pretty cool if i do not say myself 16:42 Jordach me gusta 16:42 * Jordach forgot to add some detailing on the hands 16:45 M13 Jordach in cornernote on??? 16:46 Jordach m13, what?! 16:53 NakedFury where do animated torches start. from the top of the strip or the bottom? 16:53 Jordach top. 16:54 NakedFury top to bottom 16:54 NakedFury ok 16:55 * PilzAdam is back 17:00 LAD hia 17:00 LAD for the few ppl that came on/is now back from were every they were 17:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, wb 17:01 VanessaE hi 17:02 PilzAdam font textures? 17:02 VanessaE not yet, I just woke up :-) 17:03 LAD wait what 17:03 LAD oh most likely time difernce 17:03 LAD what time is it there may i ask?? 17:03 VanessaE I slept late 17:04 LAD ok ok 17:04 VanessaE 1:03pm 17:04 LAD ou 17:04 LAD hmmm 17:04 LAD hmmm 17:04 LAD never met some 1 that could out sleep my sister 17:05 VanessaE well to be fair I got to bed late too 17:08 LAD XD still 17:08 LAD i can never sleep past 10 17:08 VanessaE well I'm an old fart. we need our sleep :-) 17:08 uzver got 12hr sleep after work, and my head was grrrr 17:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, this should be closed: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3316 17:09 VanessaE good idea. 17:09 VanessaE done 17:10 OldCoder Back 17:10 OldCoder VanessaE, Hello 17:10 VanessaE hi 17:10 OldCoder its pretty cool if i do not say myself 17:10 OldCoder ? 17:10 OldCoder I am puzzled by his remark 17:10 * OldCoder shrugs 17:11 OldCoder VanessaE, I have been helping somebody here set up a FreeBSD server. If we succeed there will be FreeBSD clients and servers. All the OS are belong to us. 17:11 OldCoder :p 17:11 VanessaE heh 17:12 PilzAdam are there working mac builds? 17:12 VanessaE not as far as I know, no. 17:13 Jordach lolapplemaxc 17:13 Jordach mac* 17:13 * PilzAdam will never use any Apple product 17:14 PilzAdam ^ same for google (except youtube) 17:15 PilzAdam @all: what do you think: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3239 ? 17:17 PilzAdam Mikeonline, you read all mods? 17:18 Mikeonline why? 17:19 PilzAdam ha! 17:19 T_A_N_K good day jeija 17:19 Mikeonline hi jeija 17:19 Jeija Hi Mikeonline 17:19 PilzAdam sup Jeija 17:19 Mikeonline suppe :P 17:19 Jeija it is not just copy&paste, _on is replaced by _off 17:20 Mikeonline cant this be in one function? 17:20 PilzAdam Mikeonline, gerne her damit 17:20 VanessaE greetz, Jeija 17:20 Jeija|OFF c u, 20 mins 17:20 VanessaE ok 17:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: re: logging mods, +1 17:22 PilzAdam what should be the name of the setting in minetest.conf? 17:22 VanessaE just as you suggest seems ok to me 17:22 PilzAdam k 17:22 VanessaE or mods_debug = true 17:22 PilzAdam its not realy debug 17:23 VanessaE no, but that seems to be what most mods use print() for 17:23 VanessaE since the average player will never see the controlling terminal (or pay attention to it anyway) 17:24 T_A_N_K I'm mixing together strangers in moscow, sonic 3 ending, and multiple gran turismo 1 songs into 1 song :D 17:27 PilzAdam updated: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45168#p45168 17:27 Jordach T_A_N_K, you madman! 17:32 Mikeonline wb jeija 17:33 VanessaE wb 17:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/67fc35d063e1771f07c31328e671ae0a25efcfc9 17:37 VanessaE nono 17:37 VanessaE wrong way to do is 17:37 VanessaE it 17:38 VanessaE it should be a function that a mod can call that handles the log-if-enabled check on its own 17:38 PilzAdam VanessaE, why? 17:38 VanessaE a mod should be able to just blindly mod.log() and let builtin.lua or whatever handle actually spitting it out if the .conf says so 17:38 VanessaE simple: consistency - less code too. 17:39 VanessaE you're re-inventing the wheel across potentially hundreds of mods if this were to take off 17:39 PilzAdam but there is no such function in builtin 17:39 PilzAdam so i will first do it this way 17:39 VanessaE I know. 17:39 VanessaE so add one :-) 17:39 VanessaE if not to builtin then to default.lua or something 17:39 VanessaE or to a separate mini-mod that handles this task 17:40 PilzAdam all mods have to depend on it! 17:40 VanessaE ok, then I dunno what 17:40 VanessaE but it should definitely not be a check that takes place in every piece of code 18:00 PilzAdam gtg 18:00 PilzAdam bye 18:12 * Jordach is about 60% done on my own mc tp 18:28 hmmmm mind control toilet paper? 18:30 RealBadAngel_ hi all 18:30 iqualfragile hello 18:32 VanessaE hey RBA. 18:32 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: saw pneumatic tubes in operation for myself the other day on one of OldCoder's servers. Nice. :-) 18:32 RealBadAngel_ :) 18:33 RealBadAngel_ i am now adding lotsa tested stuff to technic 18:34 RealBadAngel_ just started with tier 2 machines 18:34 RealBadAngel_ which will use transport tubes 18:34 RealBadAngel_ just added wireing for them 18:37 RealBadAngel_ meanwhile i think i have to talk to cornernote and ask him to do wiki for technic 18:37 RealBadAngel_ he has kinda script for extracting recipes 18:38 RealBadAngel_ makin the list in topic with screenshots is getting troublesome 18:39 RealBadAngel_ VanessaE, have you made use of zinc already? 18:39 VanessaE not yet - I kinda forgot :) 18:41 RealBadAngel_ i can add alloy smelting recipes if you want 18:41 RealBadAngel_ or you can register it 18:42 NekoGloop technic.register_alloy_recipe(src1, src1amt, src2, src2amt, dst, dstamt 18:42 NekoGloop ) 18:43 RealBadAngel_ whou could understand it? ;) 18:43 RealBadAngel_ example plz 18:43 NekoGloop Me :P 18:43 VanessaE well as I think of it, it's best if you register the recipe as part of technic and I will make homedecor use it. 18:44 RealBadAngel_ ok, so i will add brass recipes and ingots 18:44 NekoGloop And dust. 18:44 VanessaE yes 18:44 VanessaE no 18:44 VanessaE no "dust: 18:44 VanessaE why dust? 18:44 RealBadAngel_ there will be dust too 18:44 NekoGloop Because stainless steel has dust as well. 18:45 RealBadAngel_ when zinc and copper are grinded down to dusts 18:45 NekoGloop Then smelted. 18:45 RealBadAngel_ they can be mixed and smelted 18:45 NekoGloop You get zinc dust. 18:45 NekoGloop Or brass dust, even, 18:45 RealBadAngel_ so 2 recipes will work for brass 18:46 RealBadAngel_ smelting ingots or dusts 18:46 NekoGloop BTW. Make a normal alloy furnace. 18:46 NekoGloop One that uses fuel. 18:46 RealBadAngel_ ok 18:46 NakedFury dokutest light done 18:47 NekoGloop Its quite annoying to have to hunt down copper, gold, tin, and enough smooth stone to make an alloy furnace. 18:47 RealBadAngel_ no chips for free ;) 18:47 NekoGloop Make it use the furnace recipe with smooth stone instead of cobble. 18:47 RealBadAngel_ btw ive adjusted recipe for doped silicon wafer 18:48 NekoGloop Oh good, not mithril anymore? 18:48 RealBadAngel_ now just 2 mithril dusts are needed 18:48 NekoGloop Augh 18:48 RealBadAngel_ were 3 18:48 NekoGloop Make it use zinc. 18:49 RealBadAngel_ i think i will use zinc for next tier of power machines 18:49 OldCoder Hi 18:49 NekoGloop Make zinc used to dope wafers. 18:49 OldCoder Page? 18:50 OldCoder Ah 18:50 OldCoder Yes; the servers are acquiring features 18:50 OldCoder Announcement: They have DokuTest now 18:50 OldCoder From NakedRage 18:50 OldCoder I am proceeding slowly. Therefore the servers remain fast except for geographic lag. And stable. 18:51 iqualfragile can you link that? 19:00 OldCoder Hi 19:00 OldCoder iqualfragile, was that for me? 19:00 iqualfragile jup 19:01 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 19:01 iqualfragile i could not find it using the forum-search 19:01 OldCoder That is the page 19:01 OldCoder To get the new Windows MT client 19:01 OldCoder Go here instead: 19:01 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 19:01 OldCoder The new client is faster and packed with loads of mods 19:01 iqualfragile i meant doku-test 19:01 OldCoder Oh 19:01 OldCoder One moment 19:01 iqualfragile nobody uses windows 19:01 OldCoder Ha 19:01 NakedFury http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46543#p46543 19:01 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you 19:02 OldCoder Actually that raises a good point. I should make downloads of my versions of all the mods available. 19:02 OldCoder The versions that are actually on my servers. 19:02 iqualfragile jup, great idea 19:02 iqualfragile thankyou 19:02 OldCoder I will add that to my list 19:02 NekoGloop Everyone with a brain uses windows. 19:03 iqualfragile i love these comedians 19:03 NekoGloop Because we dont need the threat of accidentally having someone hack our computer and cause an infinite loop in some random, easily accessible, commandline interface. 19:04 iqualfragile made my day, i just love these comedians 19:05 RealBadAngel_ iqualfragile, you told me bout modified client with mipmaps etc enabled 19:05 RealBadAngel_ got a win build with it? 19:05 iqualfragile jup 19:05 iqualfragile no 19:05 RealBadAngel_ pity 19:06 RealBadAngel_ "nobody uses windows" 19:06 RealBadAngel_ my name is nobody ;) 19:06 iqualfragile just build it on linux, its trivial 19:06 Mikeonline is debug.txt output normal or will it slow down the server? 19:07 * RealBadAngel_ is firein up VM 19:09 RealBadAngel_ ok, im on debian right now 19:09 RealBadAngel_ how to compile win build? 19:09 RealBadAngel_ is there any bash script for it? 19:10 iqualfragile http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/~paulm/Cross/ 19:10 RealBadAngel_ jesus christ superstar.... 19:10 RealBadAngel_ nothin a BIT easier? 19:11 iqualfragile you can set up a sane compiling-env on windows 19:11 iqualfragile but i think that REALY hard 19:12 iqualfragile +s 19:12 RealBadAngel_ yeah i saw 19:12 RealBadAngel_ damn, no sfan5 here 19:12 iqualfragile i might set up a cross-compiling environment on linux tomorow 19:12 RealBadAngel_ he could be useful for this :) 19:12 sfan5 what? 19:12 RealBadAngel_ oo 19:12 iqualfragile then i can send you a win-build 19:13 RealBadAngel_ suprise :) 19:13 RealBadAngel_ sfan5, could you compile a win build with some graphic settings enabled? 19:13 sfan5 which? 19:13 Jordach mipmap 19:14 RealBadAngel_ iqualfragile, can you point him? 19:14 iqualfragile jup 19:14 iqualfragile http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2873 19:15 RealBadAngel_ AAF enabled too 19:15 RealBadAngel_ that could help hires textures 19:21 RealBadAngel_ VanessaE, can you link the brass ingot image again? 19:21 * Jordach uses 8px 19:22 RealBadAngel_ what r u playin on? microwave? 19:22 NekoGloop No, a potato. 19:22 RealBadAngel_ hehe 19:22 NekoGloop It promised me cake. 19:23 NekoGloop /obvious portal reference is obvious 19:26 Jordach RealBadAngel_, unlike some people, i like my super small textures 19:27 RealBadAngel_ everythin is for ppl 19:27 RealBadAngel_ i do like hires 19:28 RealBadAngel_ unlike almost all modern games, we are able to customize almost everythin 19:31 NakedFury I like 16 to 32 textures 19:31 NakedFury or no super mega relistic 19:33 iqualfragile sfan5: how are you cross-compiling? 19:33 sfan5 what? 19:33 RealBadAngel_ yeah, whats the progress? 19:34 iqualfragile oh, you are on windows? 19:34 sfan5 no 19:35 sfan5 i'm currently making a patch 19:37 iqualfragile oh, you could have asked for that 19:38 iqualfragile http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?4f78ee0d7f9cbce5#J+8zurRNQophXoAZh/1avE0EDPhlfCcnZsevQiJpoEg= 19:39 Mikeonline sfan do you know if lua scripts are cached or interpreted in place? so uploading a new script with changed line numbers and without restart would crash server? 19:39 Mikeonline sfan5 19:40 sfan5 i think they're caches 19:40 sfan5 *cached 19:40 Mikeonline hm but not sure.. 19:40 Mikeonline like uploading running sh scripts may cause trouble 19:40 sfan5 iqualfragile: i need a normal patch not a git-patch 19:41 iqualfragile you can update the scripts while the server is running 19:41 iqualfragile then just change the first line? 19:41 iqualfragile but the server will ignore that 19:43 Mikeonline hm 19:43 T_A_N_K how does this sound so far? 19:43 T_A_N_K http://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/sonic-turismo-in-moscow-1-3 19:47 iqualfragile what was it intended for? 19:48 T_A_N_K to be music 19:48 iqualfragile so no special purpose? 19:49 T_A_N_K "royalty free" 19:49 iqualfragile the part after 1:50 is a bit strange 19:50 T_A_N_K it doesn't really, i just felt like making it to see if i could mash together sonic 3 ending some songs from gran turismo 1 and strangers in moscow 19:50 T_A_N_K but it's not even close to being done, i still have to include super mario theme song lol 19:52 MiJyn hii 19:55 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: brass ingots... lowres: https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/master/textures/homedecor_brass_ingot.png -- highres: https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/homedecor_brass_ingot.png 19:55 VanessaE sorry for the delay, was busy receiving some furniture and also being lazy in said furniture :-) 19:57 sfan5 iqualfragile: compiling 19:58 Jordach VanessaE +1 19:58 Jordach laziness ftw 19:59 Jordach annnnnddddd i need sleep 19:59 Jordach night all 20:03 NakedFury its 4pm cant go to sleeep!!! 20:05 OldCoder NakedFury, Oh No 20:05 OldCoder 4:00pm 20:05 OldCoder So late 20:06 VanessaE sleep is overrated anyway :-) 20:06 OldCoder Actually for Jordach it is midnight 20:06 OldCoder It has been over 12 hours since I added a mod! 20:06 OldCoder Withdrawal! Anything new? 20:06 OldCoder :-) 20:07 VanessaE nope :-) 20:07 OldCoder VanessaE, I forget if I mentioned this. There is a new Windows MT client. Faster than before. 20:07 iqualfragile you could extract the cloud-generation-mod from pilzadams fork of minetest-game 20:07 VanessaE cool. 20:07 VanessaE Linux or bust, though :-) 20:07 OldCoder iqualfragile, has he provided it separately? VanessaE Yes but like FreeBSD this will expand MT reach. 20:07 FreeFull Windows MT? 20:08 iqualfragile no, but i can extract it if you wish 20:08 FreeFull Oh, MT = Minetest 20:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, Sure 20:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, Is this mod fast and stable? 20:10 OldCoder Safe to use? 20:10 Mikeonline hm worldedit created a node which looks like gravel is not digable and looks wrong 20:11 iqualfragile well, i have never used it but it looks cool 20:11 Mikeonline but its just client side bug 20:11 OldCoder We'll take a look. Has he gone for the day? I'll ask him about the code later on. 20:11 iqualfragile and its used by some people, everyboy using pilzadams minetest_game fork 20:11 OldCoder Are people using the fork? 20:11 OldCoder That is a positive sign 20:11 iqualfragile jup 20:11 OldCoder Then we will try the mod 20:12 OldCoder Plus I plan to run his fork 20:12 iqualfragile and its fast as its just another "ore" 20:12 OldCoder All right 20:12 iqualfragile well, ore in the sky but anyways 20:12 OldCoder Extract and it 20:12 * OldCoder laughs 20:12 OldCoder gets added 20:12 OldCoder "Ghost Ores in the Sky" 20:12 OldCoder Needs a song 20:14 iqualfragile uhm… be carefull when using the whole fork: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/d31d29489e6684584f6c1be4529dc6269b0f2a8d 20:14 OldCoder Yes 20:14 OldCoder I don't plan to merge it; just to run it as a separate world 20:14 OldCoder iqualfragile, Is that the whole thing or the clouds mod? 20:15 OldCoder Maybe I'll surprise him and set up a PilzAdam world now 20:15 iqualfragile what exactly? the link i just posted? 20:15 OldCoder Yes thank ou 20:15 OldCoder *you 20:16 iqualfragile thats just the commit where he made torches burn stuff 20:16 OldCoder All right 20:19 iqualfragile http://ompldr.org/vZnNrMg/clouds.zip 20:20 iqualfragile & you need to set alternative_clouds = 1 in your minetest.conf 20:20 OldCoder iqualfragile, Thank you! 20:20 OldCoder We will try it shortly 20:32 sfan5 iqualfragile: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-25cf375-extrafilters-win32.7z 20:33 iqualfragile RealBadAngel_: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-25cf375-extrafilters-win32.7z 20:35 NakedFury where are screenshots saved? 20:36 sfan5 bin 20:41 NakedFury thanks 20:41 NakedFury edited octupus water code 20:42 NakedFury and he is not here 20:44 OldCoder NakedFury, That is fine 20:44 OldCoder NakedFury, Post the revisions; I'll be maintaining a copy 20:50 NakedFury ok made the post with screenshots, since octu didnt even do that, and posted a pastebin of the fix 20:50 OldCoder NakedFury, what is the pastebin link? 20:50 NakedFury one sec 20:51 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/wqQQYM1J 20:51 OldCoder ty 20:51 OldCoder Reviewing things 20:51 NakedFury has entire code with few fixes 20:51 OldCoder ty 20:51 NakedFury like yellow water tile image being correct this time 20:51 OldCoder What does his mod do again? Colored water? 20:51 NakedFury yep 20:51 OldCoder k 20:51 NakedFury had to make it so underwater screen color changed too 20:51 OldCoder Working on things now 20:52 NakedFury red, yellow and green 20:52 OldCoder Well, it's new anyway 20:52 OldCoder Yellow water 20:52 OldCoder Huh 20:52 NakedFury if octu keeps working on it and doing things that depend on it, it will grow 20:52 OldCoder Yes 20:52 OldCoder I am simply imagining the likely interpretation for one of the colors 20:53 NakedFury yeah pee 20:53 * OldCoder shrugs 20:53 OldCoder Proceeding with alternative clouds and alternative water 20:53 NakedFury why wasnt animated water added to default game like lava was? 20:54 OldCoder Good question; water is a larger surface in general, isn't it? 20:54 OldCoder Would that matter? 20:54 NakedFury no idea 20:56 OldCoder NakedFury, do you have the link for the original OctuWater mod? 20:56 OldCoder Adding clouds and that one 20:56 NakedFury http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3315 20:57 OldCoder Ty again 21:06 hmmmm Finally.... synthetic watermellon. 21:06 hmmmm http://pastebin.com/pNxTgtXy :3 21:06 hmmmm perlin noise is gonna be shit-yo-pants fast, dude. 21:06 OldCoder hmmmm, What is it? Where should it be installed? 21:06 hmmmm In your bunghole 21:06 OldCoder hmmmm, Thank you for the response 21:07 OldCoder Added to /ignore 21:07 hmmmm lel 21:07 NakedFury OldCoder hmm is doing a very awesome extensive fix of the source 21:07 OldCoder NakedFury, I am not sure I will be able to install as he directs 21:07 NakedFury he is trying to remove useless crap and place faster and efficient methods 21:07 OldCoder See the instructions he provides above. They are not as useful as I would like. 21:08 NakedFury well yeah that was crappy. the only way to install is c++ and new minetest build 21:08 NakedFury a fork 21:08 hmmmm lol 21:08 hmmmm indeed 21:08 OldCoder It is a question of efficiency 21:08 hmmmm it's not like you can just pop this text into a lua file and minetest will magically run 400 times faster 21:08 OldCoder NakedFury, No matter how good his code is it will not run in the location that he has specified. 21:08 hmmmm it's part of the new perlin noise functions 21:09 NakedFury yeah I think that was a jerkish response maybe out of stress 21:09 OldCoder Stress? I am sympathetic 21:09 hmmmm should be 4-5x faster than pure C 21:09 OldCoder But I sort of have stress as well. Am not letting it interfere 21:09 NakedFury hmm he tought you were talking about a mod nit source code stuff 21:09 OldCoder ? 21:09 OldCoder I saw watermelon 21:09 OldCoder Thought it might be a plant mod or something 21:09 hmmmm does that look like Lua code to you? :p 21:10 OldCoder NakedFury, proceeding to rebuild servers with PilzCloud and OctuWater 21:10 hmmmm oh wow, he really did ignore me 21:11 hmmmm we have a testy bunch in here 21:11 OldCoder Servers going down for about 60 seconds. Clients will regrettably be kicked. 21:12 NakedFury it's part of the new perlin noise functions should be 4-5x faster than pure C 21:12 NakedFury that is what hmm said 21:12 OldCoder NakedFury, that sounds sensible 21:12 NakedFury he also apologized for the bunghole comment 21:12 OldCoder Oh? 21:12 hmmmm if he ignored me he probably doesn't want to hear that 21:12 OldCoder Unignored, then 21:12 OldCoder Servers restarted 21:12 NakedFury :) 21:12 hmmmm oldcoder: I didn't apologize, he's lying 21:12 * OldCoder laughs out loud 21:12 OldCoder Fine 21:13 hmmmm oldcoder: Go ignore me again pal 21:13 NakedFury come on! 21:13 OldCoder As I am stressed too best I do that 21:13 NakedFury I totally had fixed that situation 21:13 OldCoder NakedFury, please test PilzCloud and OctuWater 21:13 OldCoder Or anybody else who is interested 21:13 hmmmm i hate people 21:13 OldCoder hmmmm, why? 21:13 OldCoder I hate them too but also love 21:13 hmmmm idk man 21:13 OldCoder hmmmm, hmm 21:13 hmmmm that's why you shouldn't take it personally 21:13 OldCoder When did this start? 21:13 OldCoder It is not personal at all 21:14 OldCoder I assure you 21:14 hmmmm ok, later, dinner time 21:14 OldCoder Hmm again 21:14 hmmmm i hope you people realize that this is going to take a while before it gets into the master trunk 21:14 OldCoder You said dinner 21:14 OldCoder Leaving or not? 21:15 hmmmm i'll set up a github account and branch it so you guys can compile and w/e soon 21:15 OldCoder If not... when did this start? 21:15 OldCoder How do you feel in general; calm or stressed? 21:15 OldCoder What is in your head? 21:15 NakedFury tsting the clouds, waiting until its clearer(daytime) 21:15 OldCoder NakedFury, I will set the time. What port are you on? 21:15 NakedFury already daytime 21:15 NakedFury the clouds look fine 21:15 OldCoder All right 21:16 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you! So water and clouds are both working 21:16 OldCoder That is good 21:16 NakedFury ok 21:16 OldCoder hmmmm, you have mixed feelings then 21:16 OldCoder You see work that is needed. You do it. Why? 21:16 * OldCoder shrugs 21:17 OldCoder hmmmm, your remark was an invitation. To one path or another. You must choose the path. 21:17 OldCoder As you wish, then. 21:17 OldCoder 21:18 hmmmm lol wtf 21:18 OldCoder iqualfragile, if you are here; should I create a PilzAdam world? Not the clouds. They are in now. But his fork. 21:18 NakedFury oldcoder: fixed another small error in water code: opening the .init at line 31: should be {name="octuwater_water_red.png", backface_culling=false}, 21:19 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you and patching now 21:19 OldCoder This will be loaded when the PilzAdam world goes in 21:19 NakedFury that will stop the message of missing texture creating dummy now 21:19 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I am adding a PilzAdam world. Any advice? 21:19 iqualfragile1 uh, gdamn, ip-change 21:19 OldCoder IP Happens 21:19 OldCoder :-) 21:20 iqualfragile1 well, i guess he has already customized the game in his fork 21:20 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I have added PilzClouds to my worlds. I will add his entire fork now. Any suggestions? Avoid those of hmmmm type as I am not myself today. 21:20 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/ttZwbz7J new pastebin of the fix 21:21 OldCoder NakedFury, ty 21:21 OldCoder Adding shortly 21:21 iqualfragile1 well: that depends on if you want to create a game like pilzadam would like it 21:21 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I want to 21:21 OldCoder Explain and it shall be 21:21 iqualfragile1 or create a game from what pilzadam has made 21:21 OldCoder as he wishes 21:21 OldCoder Which do you recommend? 21:22 iqualfragile1 well then: start out with his fork, he collected allmost everything there 21:22 OldCoder I will proceed momentarily 21:22 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest-particles 21:22 OldCoder NakedFury, made the change and it will appear on next restart 21:22 OldCoder iqualfragile1, reviewinbg 21:22 OldCoder *g 21:23 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/Neuromancer56/MinetestAmbience 21:23 iqualfragile1 those two should be added, too 21:23 OldCoder iqualfragile1, what are you showing us? 21:23 OldCoder Ah 21:23 OldCoder Wait 21:23 OldCoder iqualfragile1, may I have main link for his fork again please? I will proceed right now 21:23 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game 21:23 OldCoder And hmmmm if you are reading this; I do not take it personally. It is more complex than that. Good-bye. 21:23 OldCoder 21:24 OldCoder Forking the PilzAdam fork 21:24 OldCoder Cloning rather 21:24 OldCoder Cloned and reviewing 21:25 OldCoder Looks straightforward. Adding the other two now. 21:27 iqualfragile1 the second one is the version of neucromancer because he continued fine-tuning after they build the core 21:27 OldCoder O.K. 21:27 OldCoder Ready soon 21:29 OldCoder Whoa. 27MB. 21:29 iqualfragile1 jup, it are sounds 21:29 OldCoder It includes an embedded ZIP file named ambience.zip 21:29 iqualfragile1 and neucromancer did not clean up the repos so you are actualy downloading the mod 3 times 21:29 OldCoder Ah! 21:30 OldCoder Working on it 21:30 OldCoder The unpacked one; is that the current? 21:31 OldCoder Cleaning this up 21:31 iqualfragile1 jup 21:31 iqualfragile1 you can delete the .zip s 21:31 OldCoder all right 21:31 OldCoder So sound works? 21:31 iqualfragile1 yeah, and it sounds great 21:32 iqualfragile1 that realy is a wonderfull adition to minetest 21:32 OldCoder Wait 21:32 iqualfragile1 especialy as the sound adapts to the environment around you 21:32 OldCoder Wait 21:32 OldCoder IW temp1 Row 2 Col 1 9:32 Ctrl-K H for help 21:32 OldCoder 14init.lua 21:32 OldCoder Badinit.lua 21:32 OldCoder depends.txt 21:32 OldCoder init16.lua 21:32 OldCoder init17.lua 21:32 OldCoder init29debug.lua 21:32 OldCoder init.lua 21:32 OldCoder init.lua.pilz.lu 21:32 OldCoder Which of those is the one to use? 21:33 iqualfragile1 init.lua 21:33 iqualfragile1 its a mess 21:33 iqualfragile1 he just does not get what a vcs is good for 21:33 iqualfragile1 just like xyz who keeps all his mods in one repos 21:34 iqualfragile1 wich is impossible to fork 21:34 OldCoder All right 21:34 OldCoder So the default 21:34 OldCoder All of this goes live shortly 21:36 OldCoder iqualfragile1, This is a PilzAdam edit of a mod by somebody else? Who is the originator? 21:36 iqualfragile1 wich exactly? 21:36 iqualfragile1 ambience? 21:36 OldCoder Ambiance 21:36 OldCoder Ambience, yes 21:38 OldCoder iqualfragile1, Also... 21:38 iqualfragile1 that was an cooperation of necromancer and pilzadam 21:38 OldCoder iqualfragile1, will Ambience work in standard worlds? 21:38 iqualfragile1 necromancer then continued finetuning it 21:38 iqualfragile1 jup 21:38 OldCoder And should I add it everywhere? 21:38 OldCoder Will people like it? 21:38 OldCoder Or will download of music slow things down? 21:39 OldCoder This all looks fun 21:39 OldCoder 21:39 OldCoder iqualfragile1, these are the questions: 1. Anything else to PilzAdam fork? Or should I go ahead and start it? 2. Will Ambience work everywhere? 3. Should I use Ambience everywhere or bad idea? 21:40 iqualfragile1 1.: yes, one moment 21:40 iqualfragile1 2. yes it will work everywhere and improve the ambience a lot 21:42 iqualfragile1 3. its a good idea because it improves the ambience wich is rather bad in minetest but its a bit problematic (at least for my server with not-that-much-upload) because the first login takes ages 21:42 OldCoder You refer to media caching 21:42 iqualfragile1 yup 21:42 OldCoder I could add a setting to enable or disable this for specific worlds 21:42 iqualfragile1 so the 2. and next logins are fast 21:43 iqualfragile1 nah, the media will be tranfaired anyways, i think 21:43 OldCoder But you said 21:43 OldCoder first login takes ages 21:43 OldCoder Not true? 21:45 iqualfragile1 true but thats when all the media gets downloaded 21:45 OldCoder iqualfragile1, All right. Indicate remaining PilzAdam fork instructions 21:46 iqualfragile1 his fork of xyzs signs 21:46 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/PilzAdam/signs 21:46 OldCoder k 21:46 OldCoder Question... Will existing users pick up the music when next they connect? 21:47 iqualfragile1 yes 21:47 iqualfragile1 they will 21:48 OldCoder k 21:48 iqualfragile1 well, i dont think he actualy likes his carts-mod 21:48 OldCoder Oh? 21:48 iqualfragile1 so you can leave that out 21:49 OldCoder It's already in the standard set. Do others like it? 21:49 iqualfragile1 yeah, 2 functions seem to be buggy engine-wise so he had to cack around it 21:50 iqualfragile1 i dont, its choppy and the cart always stops when you ride up a stairway 21:50 OldCoder iqualfragile1, so delete carts from standard set? How do others feel? 21:50 OldCoder Will this leave unknown objects? 21:50 iqualfragile1 yes, an intersection and the carts 21:51 OldCoder Not clear; excuse me 21:51 OldCoder iqualfragile1, so delete carts from standard set? How do others feel? 21:51 OldCoder Will this leave unknown objects? 21:51 OldCoder Proceeding with fork BTW 21:51 iqualfragile1 this will leave unknown objects 21:51 iqualfragile1 an intersection and the actual carts 21:51 OldCoder But you say carts are buggy and he doesn't like them himself? 21:52 iqualfragile1 i dont think anyone realy used that anyways 21:52 OldCoder k 21:52 iqualfragile1 yes, i saiy that 21:52 OldCoder Working 21:53 iqualfragile1 what exactly do you mean by standard set? 21:53 OldCoder 21:53 OldCoder See this web page: 21:53 iqualfragile1 the set of mods you put in every world? 21:53 OldCoder Most worlds 21:53 OldCoder As a starting point 21:53 OldCoder I add or subtract 21:53 OldCoder Skyblock has a smaller set 21:54 OldCoder Jordach has mostly his own 21:54 OldCoder etc. 21:54 iqualfragile1 ah, his map-mod is a nice addition: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747 21:54 OldCoder Checking in a minute 21:54 iqualfragile1 but that one is a bit of work to set up 21:54 OldCoder Let's hold off then 21:54 OldCoder Wait 21:54 OldCoder Anything else? 21:55 iqualfragile1 especialy as i would not recommend using the python-verson of minetestmapper because its very verry verrry slow 21:55 iqualfragile1 beds? 21:55 OldCoder I think I have them; checking 21:55 OldCoder Yep 21:55 iqualfragile1 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2625 21:55 OldCoder Yes 21:56 iqualfragile1 well, i guess you will need to add simple mobs then, because you need to get wool from somewhere 21:57 iqualfragile1 or does farming include something to get wool? 21:57 iqualfragile1 it does 21:57 OldCoder iqualfragile1, I am in PM for about 10 minutes. Add more suggestions if you like. Work will proceed. 21:57 iqualfragile1 ok 21:58 OldCoder anunakki, hi 21:58 iqualfragile1 the only thing i could think of would be his mobs, but any mobs are expensive cpu-wise so you should think about using them 21:59 anunakki hello 22:01 iqualfragile1 and yeah, the map, but that would need some work, realy 22:02 iqualfragile1 anyone able to create mods in here: how do i make one node with one texture be larger then one node? 22:03 NakedFury no idea 22:06 NekoGloop I wanna see more alloys in technic. 22:10 OldCoder Octupus, OctuWater is added to the worlds 22:10 OldCoder Music is coming in a few minutes 22:10 Octupus Cool 22:10 Octupus :) 22:11 Octupus Did u see um? 22:12 Octupus Hi sascha 22:23 VanessaE can someone with some in-depth bug-hunting experience lend a hand? I need some help 22:23 VanessaE (strictly minetest mod related)\ 22:24 NekoGloop I can give it a go. 22:24 VanessaE ok 22:25 hmmmm wow, people are really going nuts with the mods 22:25 VanessaE yup 22:26 NakedFury modding is a great way to get into coding and we like this game 22:30 LandMineMt i need asistence!\ 22:30 NekoGloop Get out. 22:30 hmmmm I'm going to be adding: EnvRef.get_perlin_map2d, EnvRef.get_perlin_map3d which are going to return multi-dimensional arrays of a user-specified size filled with perlin noise samples starting at specified coordinates for a specified amount of nodes 22:30 LandMineMt how good would a server run on 768MB ram and 2 cores? 22:30 hmmmm instead of get_perlin which only returns one node's worth of perlin noise 22:31 LandMineMt NekoGloop keep it shut no one is speaking to you 22:31 hmmmm i haven't decided on specifics yet 22:31 NekoGloop Shove it up your ass. 22:31 LandMineMt OldCoder you know this? 22:31 hmmmm but there's going to be a BiomeRef class 22:31 hmmmm you'll be able to define your own biome and land generation perlin noise parameters 22:32 Octupus Ban hammer XD 22:32 hmmmm and the nodes that are placed and at what thickness etc. 22:32 NekoGloop For who though? 22:32 LandMineMt w/e just need to know if i can run a decent server on 750 mb ram 22:32 NekoGloop Go find out, asshole. 22:32 Octupus :P 22:32 ecube lol vanessa 22:32 Mikeonline good night all 22:33 hmmmm also you'll be able to specify a post-processing callback where you can do whatever you'd like with the newly generated blocks 22:33 NekoGloop Did i just hear a banhammer be raised? 22:33 VanessaE don't egg him on, neko. I don't wanna have to keep adding more of his IP's to the ban list. 22:33 hmmmm sort of like the add minerals in mapgen.lua 22:33 LandMineMt yeah neko why you have to be so mean? ahahahahaha ....your ignored 22:33 ecube VanessaE: all his IP's are either 189.191.*.* or 189.144.*.* 22:33 ecube jic 22:33 LandMineMt yup 22:33 LandMineMt lol 22:33 LandMineMt not really 22:33 ecube i think he told me they were all the mexican IP's 22:33 LandMineMt she has seen others 22:33 NekoGloop LandMineMt: If you hadnt noticed i'm the only one talking to you. 22:33 hmmmm wow everybody gets so excited over this landmine feller but not new modding api :( 22:34 ecube MODDING API!! :D 22:34 NekoGloop So your even more ignored 22:34 LandMineMt VanessaE do yo uknow if i can run good on 750 mb? 22:34 ecube there, happy? 22:34 NekoGloop hmmmm: I would be more excited over something physically existing. ^^ 22:34 VanessaE heh 22:34 ecube LandMineMt: 750 mb is good enough, what you should be concerned about is CPU usage 22:34 hmmmm FYI this is a humungous addition 22:35 NekoGloop Then get outta here and work on it! :D 22:35 hmmmm the entire mapgen is being replaced along with the noise generation stuff 22:35 hmmmm a UI screen is being added 22:35 LandMineMt ok ecube.....imma try it out, might have to buy a better vps if it doesnt work 22:35 VanessaE now that's worth getting excited about :-) 22:35 hmmmm and then the lua api 22:35 NakedFury hmmmmm I am excited over this but at this exact moment im doing homework and I need to learn perlin stuff to understand you better 22:35 hmmmm okay 22:36 VanessaE anyone else feel like taking a crack at this mod issue? 22:36 NekoGloop Nope. 22:36 hmmmm if i have to give an estimate, i'd say i'll be done by the middle of the month 22:36 NekoGloop :D 22:36 hmmmm i'll write a halloween mod in order to show off the new API additions 22:36 LandMineMt ecube what happened to your server? and how mcuh ram did it have? 22:36 NekoGloop OMG 22:36 LandMineMt it ran pretty smotth 22:36 NekoGloop HELLOWEEN 22:36 * NekoGloop runs 22:37 hmmmm yea, "halloween update" 22:37 NekoGloop Like minecrap? 22:37 hmmmm yeah haha 22:37 hmmmm that's where i got the idea from 22:37 NekoGloop Its gettin one too xD 22:37 ecube how did i never think to call minecraft 'minecrap' 22:37 ecube wtf's wrong with me 22:37 OldCoder Hi 22:37 ecube hi 22:37 hmmmm ugh, a friend of mine always called it minecrap 22:38 OldCoder Know what? Scrolling up 22:38 OldCoder I have been elsewhere 22:38 OldCoder NekoGloop, let him ask 22:38 OldCoder LandMineMt, `Reviewing 22:38 NekoGloop Instead of him figuring out on his own? 22:38 OldCoder It is a simple question. And I try to help everybody. 22:39 OldCoder LandMineMt, More RAM would be better. But it should run MT for at least one world fairly well. Add swap space on disk. Expect slow compile times. 22:39 OldCoder Lightweight Linux distro would be better than Ubuntu. But you could still try Ubuntu. 22:39 LandMineMt kk 22:40 LandMineMt not gonna use an old vps i have anymore for what i was using it for 22:40 LandMineMt so i thought of a mt server 22:40 OldCoder I have tried both AWS Micro and Small 22:40 ecube if you're using a comp that you don't use for your everyday stuff, run in singleuser mode 22:40 OldCoder Yes; but a small server might be fine 22:40 OldCoder Multiple worlds and too many users may lag 22:41 OldCoder I recommend the server optimization settings. I will post the ones I'm using. 22:41 OldCoder I'd also avoid high CPU mods 22:41 LandMineMt OldCoder why not just give me one of yours and delete Octupus server? its ugly anyway 22:41 OldCoder But MT is not high CPU in general 22:41 LandMineMt ok thanks oldcoder 22:41 OldCoder LandMineMt, You can have one of mine. You said you didn't need it. See me in PM. But try your VPS first. 22:41 NekoGloop I will admit octu's server has been a bit in shambles lately it seems. 22:41 OldCoder With yours you can control it completely 22:42 OldCoder I will explain build procedures etc. 22:42 OldCoder I am needed elsewhere for a few minutes 22:42 OldCoder Then music goes into MT 22:42 LandMineMt ok 22:42 OldCoder and I boot PilzAdam world 22:42 LandMineMt ill talk to you about it tommorow 22:42 OldCoder All right 22:42 LandMineMt ill try the vps in a while 22:42 OldCoder I recommend you try yours first 22:42 LandMineMt ok 22:43 Octupus What with my server neko? 22:43 NekoGloop Heh. 22:43 NekoGloop Just seemed a bit messy last i was on it. 22:43 NekoGloop Random stuff here there and everywhere. 22:47 Octupus Ohm 22:47 Octupus Ohk 22:47 hmmmm has anybody noticed that the game is laggy with sound enabled? 22:48 Octupus Yes :) 22:48 LandMineMt No 22:48 VanessaE has anybody noticed that the game is laggy with anything but stone/dirt/etc enabled? ;-) 22:48 NekoGloop Has anyone noticed the game is laggy even with just dirt enabled? 22:48 hmmmm well at least it's not just me, there's a problem with that 22:48 VanessaE lol 22:51 VanessaE dammit where's Mikeonline when I need him 22:52 NekoGloop Mikeoffline 22:52 VanessaE :P 22:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, better than melted... 22:53 OldCoder I tapped a block in LAD world. And the whole place melted! 22:53 OldCoder O_o 22:53 OldCoder Thank goodness for backups 22:53 VanessaE an Unknown Block, at that 22:53 OldCoder Yes 22:53 OldCoder I saved that world 22:54 OldCoder I will still find that block somebody. I also have the lavaworld. 22:54 VanessaE it looks like a post-nuclear-holocaust world now ;-) 22:54 OldCoder Oh, yes 22:59 iqualfragile finished your pilzadam-world? 23:04 Octupus Oppa Gangnam style 23:05 OldCoder iqualfragile, Just getting back to work now. Excuse delays. There were people with difficulties. 23:05 OldCoder Just came out of PMs 23:05 OldCoder I will summarize everything very shortly 23:06 OldCoder I promise it will be interesting 23:11 T_A_N_K i'm making a mother goosing portal gun and an upgrade table 23:12 T_A_N_K only after you hit level 10 in xp can you upgrade a mining laser to a portal gun 23:12 NekoGloop I would like the portal gun on its own xD 23:12 T_A_N_K well, yea i'm releasing that too, but the upgrade aspect would be the ultimate thing for servers :D 23:18 OldCoder 23:19 OldCoder Not sure what to do about LM 23:19 OldCoder We will see if he sets up his VPS or wishes one of my worlds 23:19 OldCoder 23:19 OldCoder Stopping servers to add all kinds of stuff 23:20 NekoGloop Add the following: charcoal 23:20 NekoGloop I think you are lacking it. 23:21 OldCoder Charcoal? 23:21 OldCoder Going in 23:21 OldCoder No, I have it 23:22 OldCoder Not in Skyblock 23:22 OldCoder This update is going to be significant. Hold on a bit. 23:25 OldCoder M13, wb 23:25 M13 thnx ummm 23:25 M13 23:26 OldCoder ummm? 23:26 M13 How did you get it to cross compile 23:26 OldCoder I will show you 23:26 OldCoder ATM Lots of new changes coming 23:26 OldCoder Hold on 23:26 M13 i get a error about windres.exe 23:26 OldCoder So you're speaking to me? 23:26 OldCoder nvm 23:27 M13 yep 23:27 OldCoder PilzAdam fork coming 23:27 M13 what? 23:27 OldCoder New world 23:27 M13 ok 23:27 M13 so.. 23:27 M13 23:27 M13 how do I fix this error 23:27 M13 the error with windres.exe 23:28 OldCoder M13 See above 23:28 OldCoder Busy ATM 23:28 M13 ok 23:28 M13 srry 23:29 OldCoder 23:29 M13 umm im not OP on #minetest-m13 :| 23:29 OldCoder Is there a safe way to remove fire from the tnt mod? 23:29 M13 yes 23:29 OldCoder M13, can this wait please? 23:29 OldCoder O.K. 23:29 OldCoder Can somebody tell me how to remove fire from tnt? 23:29 M13 yes 23:29 M13 I can do it 23:29 OldCoder Then proceed 23:29 M13 here 23:30 M13 Ill edit the code and paste it in pastebin ok 23:30 OldCoder Then proceed 23:30 OldCoder K 23:30 NekoGloop minetest.register_alias("fire:basic_flame", "air") 23:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, is that all? 23:30 OldCoder Wait 23:30 OldCoder If I do that 23:30 NekoGloop Probably not but will stop unknown blocks. 23:30 OldCoder Hmm 23:30 OldCoder M13, proceed with edits 23:31 OldCoder This is all I need to proceed with PilzAdam world 23:34 M13 http://pastebin.com/NsCWW5he 23:34 OldCoder Reviewing 23:35 M13 hmmmk 23:35 M13 does it look ok? 23:35 OldCoder No 23:35 OldCoder I think I'd better drop tnt temporarily 23:35 M13 :( 23:36 OldCoder Don't be :( 23:36 OldCoder I think he should make the change 23:36 M13 i disabled fire 23:36 OldCoder Booting worlds in a moment 23:36 OldCoder Yes 23:36 OldCoder But will it break on the other references? 23:36 OldCoder Don't worry 23:36 M13 ok 23:36 OldCoder Just dropping tnt temporarily 23:36 M13 ok 23:37 OldCoder Anybody got any other mod additions or updates? 23:37 OldCoder No? 23:37 M13 this has been the best day ever :) 23:37 OldCoder All right 23:37 OldCoder How so? 23:37 M13 I made a Program 23:37 OldCoder Ah 23:37 OldCoder Good 23:37 M13 A Compiling Program 23:37 M13 Ita Called M13's Minetest-Compiler 23:38 OldCoder ?? 23:38 OldCoder Explain 23:38 OldCoder I can read while testing 23:39 M13 ok 23:39 M13 Well it compiles Minetest Lolz 23:40 OldCoder ?? 23:40 OldCoder All right 23:40 M13 Its for Debian/Ubuntu?mint Linux 23:40 anunakki omg vbox just died during xorg compile 23:40 OldCoder How is it different than the buildbot? 23:40 anunakki pissed >:| 23:40 OldCoder It will come back 23:40 anunakki lol 23:40 M13 lol 23:40 anunakki nthat was strange 23:40 M13 anyway it dont cross-compile it compiles 23:40 anunakki never seen vbox crash before 23:40 M13 I have Lolz 23:41 M13 Every 10 Minutes 23:41 OldCoder M13, How is it different? 23:41 anunakki damn 23:41 OldCoder iqualfragile, the music does take a while to download! 23:41 M13 what do you mean different? 23:41 iqualfragile i told you 23:41 OldCoder buildbot vs. whatever you have done 23:42 M13 It runs like BuildBot but Compiles for Linux and Not Windows 23:42 M13 0_0 23:42 M13 Idea 23:42 M13 Lightbulb 23:42 OldCoder Folks the media load will be slower now... 23:42 OldCoder But apparently there is music! 23:42 M13 Im going to make it do both :-) 23:43 OldCoder Hey 23:43 OldCoder seagulls! 23:43 M13 heh??? 23:43 M13 ok 23:43 M13 lolz 23:43 anunakki ugh and of course now the make install fails 23:43 anunakki lol 23:43 anunakki fml 23:43 OldCoder anunakki, :-) 23:43 anunakki that shits been installing for like 2 days 23:43 OldCoder iqualfragile, will people like this? 23:43 M13 hahahaha 23:43 OldCoder Who wants to hear waves in Minetest? 23:43 M13 that sucks 23:43 OldCoder Coming up 23:43 anunakki rofl yea it does 23:43 M13 ME 23:43 anunakki wonder if its cause i was runnign vbox 23:43 anunakki and playing minetest 23:44 anunakki and had chrome open withl ike 32 tabs 23:44 M13 most likely 23:44 M13 how much CPU and RAM do you have 23:44 anunakki screw you amd vision 23:44 anunakki i miss my quad core :( 23:44 anunakki 4gb ram 23:44 OldCoder 23:44 iqualfragile the whole fork or the music? 23:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, music 23:44 M13 AMD ohhh..... AMD = Shit 23:44 OldCoder Starting it all now 23:44 iqualfragile i think they will definitly like the music 23:44 anunakki lol, i'm an amd guy 23:44 anunakki always have been 23:45 OldCoder iqualfragile, There are error glitches though 23:45 OldCoder Try it in a minute 23:45 M13 Im gb guy 23:45 anunakki atleast you're not an intel guy 23:45 anunakki :P 23:45 M13 I like aftermarket but Intel is ok 23:45 OldCoder 23:45 OldCoder Here we go: 23:45 anunakki i'm thinking about buying a new laptop 23:46 anunakki thinking about going asus 23:46 M13 OOOOooooo you were running VBox on a laptop Hahahaha 23:46 anunakki rofl 23:46 anunakki yup 23:46 M13 smrt 23:46 OldCoder 1. OctuWater in most worlds. 2. Pilz Clouds added. 3. Carts dropped. 4. Minetest Music! 5. PilzAdam World at port 30010. 23:46 anunakki it runs fine with one vm with minimal specs 23:46 M13 yea 23:46 OldCoder anunakki, M13, VanessaE, NekoGloop, iqualfragile, RealBadAngel_ See above! 23:46 OldCoder 23:46 anunakki 16gb hdd and 512 ram 23:46 anunakki mb* 23:47 NekoGloop Carts dropped? 23:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, iqualfragile said to and nobody objected 23:47 OldCoder Do you need them? 23:47 NekoGloop I must not have been here. 23:47 M13 OldCoder, How do you make ur name red??? 23:47 NekoGloop Because they're quite nice and useful ^^ 23:47 iqualfragile are you actualy using them? 23:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, he says they are buggy and PilzAfam dislikes them 23:47 OldCoder You two decide 23:47 NekoGloop I use them in singleplayer 23:47 OldCoder M13, wait please 23:47 M13 ok 23:48 OldCoder Consensus regarding carts? 23:48 iqualfragile usefull? they are hanging up on every stair 23:48 NekoGloop Havent made one in the server yet, been using my iron for other things. 23:48 NekoGloop Yes they are quite useful. 23:48 iqualfragile plus they are laggy 23:48 iqualfragile im talking about server-experience 23:48 NekoGloop A bit laggy. 23:48 OldCoder Hmm 23:48 OldCoder NekoGloop, talk to him about improving them 23:48 OldCoder 23:48 anunakki and fixed the install 23:48 OldCoder Everybody 23:49 anunakki fwew 23:49 * anunakki wipes brow 23:49 M13 OldCoder, should I make a Program to read ebooks on Linux? 23:49 anunakki yes, M13 you should 23:49 OldCoder Please try (a) the music (b) the octuwater (c) the new clouds (d) the PilzAdam world 23:49 OldCoder 23:49 M13 thought the terminal 23:49 OldCoder M13, Evince will do it 23:49 OldCoder PilzAdam World is now running at 30010 23:49 anunakki also, do you have a stash of secretzz ebooks?! 23:49 OldCoder TNT is omitted 23:49 anunakki please share 23:49 OldCoder anunakki, Who? 23:49 M13 ok 23:49 anunakki both of you 23:49 OldCoder anunakki, I have free books on my site 23:49 M13 anunakki 23:49 OldCoder Hold on for link 23:49 anunakki lol i throw my ebooks on google drive like a boss 23:50 M13 are you running linux 23:50 anunakki no, win 7 23:50 M13 suck!!! 23:50 anunakki but i do run arch and debian on other machiens 23:50 NekoGloop win XP on my comp. 23:50 OldCoder Free books; http://oldcoder.org/etext/ 23:50 anunakki and i have an old toaster 23:50 anunakki runnign fbsd 23:50 NekoGloop iOS 6.0 on this 23:50 anunakki with fluxbox and cairo-dock 23:50 * NekoGloop is on an ipad 23:50 anunakki and everyone thinks its os x 23:50 OldCoder And some book recommendations: http://oldcoder.org/general/booknotes/ 23:50 OldCoder 23:50 OldCoder O.K. 23:50 anunakki <3 ty OldCoder 23:50 OldCoder Somebody let me know if PilzAdam World works 23:50 M13 OldCoder do you have the Hunger Games? 23:50 OldCoder anunakki, Enjoy! 23:51 OldCoder M13, The game or the book? Neither yet 23:51 OldCoder I read the Japanese original 23:51 M13 ok 23:51 anunakki deep time looks good 23:51 OldCoder It is interesting 23:51 anunakki you like the same kind of shit i like 23:51 OldCoder All: I recommend Accelerando on my site. Interesting book also 23:51 anunakki :) 23:51 OldCoder anunakki, All right 23:52 OldCoder Well, somebody; does the MT Music work for you? 23:52 OldCoder I need to suppress those warning messages 23:52 OldCoder Hmm 23:52 anunakki i dont have any sound in minetest 23:52 OldCoder PilzAdam world just broke 23:52 OldCoder Checking 23:53 anunakki yes 23:53 anunakki xorg finished 23:53 anunakki time for fluxbox and cairo-dock 23:53 OldCoder anunakki, good 23:53 anunakki then its pretty much finished on my end 23:53 anunakki you can take it from there 23:53 anunakki i also installed it with source 23:53 anunakki so you can modify whatever you need 23:53 anunakki and just recompile kernel 23:53 OldCoder Good 23:53 OldCoder Stopping worlds to remove PilzAdam temporarily 23:54 OldCoder anunakki, I will build MT there 23:54 anunakki XD well i wouldnt suggest it 23:54 anunakki its on my laptop 23:54 anunakki soon as i close her the server will go down 23:54 OldCoder I meant 23:54 OldCoder in my copy 23:54 anunakki ohhh 23:54 anunakki sweet 23:54 anunakki also, i just got my old vps that i forgot all about back 23:54 anunakki from phantomcircuit 23:55 anunakki its not a very good package and probably wont support mt 23:55 anunakki but its debian 23:55 anunakki probably be alot easier to try over there 23:55 anunakki and its in europe 23:55 OldCoder That is positive! 23:55 OldCoder Shall we go try it? 23:55 anunakki sure, i'm just concerned about specs 23:55 OldCoder Starting world 23:55 anunakki it should work fine though 23:55 OldCoder Can't be worse than the FreeBSD 23:55 OldCoder meet you in PM in a moment 23:55 OldCoder 23:55 anunakki k 23:56 OldCoder Feedback from all requested regarding music, PilzAdam world, and clouds 23:56 OldCoder I am in PM with anunakki making another server 23:56 OldCoder Page me if you need me 23:59 M13 OldCoder, do you know how to code shell sctipt?