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Time Nick Message
00:00 OldCoder I assume these all work with 0.4.3
00:00 NekoGloop also, a few changes should be made to armor, PM me when you have it downloaded and opened in an editor
00:00 OldCoder All right
00:00 NekoGloop OldCoder: and only with 0.4.3
00:00 OldCoder a few minutes
00:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, 0.4.3 and up
00:00 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, ive added treetap with textures to technic
00:00 NekoGloop yes
00:01 OldCoder NekoGloop, that is fine
00:01 NekoGloop sweet, I'll DL later.
00:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, ready
00:02 NekoGloop for...?
00:02 NekoGloop oh right.
00:02 OldCoder Ha
00:03 OldCoder Short Attention Kitty
00:03 NekoGloop sorry, mind blanked there.
00:03 OldCoder np
00:03 OldCoder This is fun
00:03 OldCoder I will run all the MTs and all the best mods and worlds
00:03 NekoGloop change armor\api.lua:28 to local armor_groups = {level=3,fleshy=3,snappy=3,choppy=3}
00:03 OldCoder In progress
00:04 OldCoder Just change the 4s to 3s?
00:04 NekoGloop one moment, something else as well
00:04 OldCoder NekoGloop ^
00:04 NekoGloop will take a second to type.
00:05 OldCoder BTW I am chowning MT to games.user and then making the server run under that identity
00:05 cy1 NekoGloop: I make my couches from solid stone :I
00:05 NekoGloop armor\init.lua:73-77 to local armors = { {name="wood",label="Wooden",material="default:wood",level=2}, {name="steel",label="Steel",material="default:steel_ingot",level=1}, {name="mese",label="Mese",material="default:mese",level=4},  }
00:05 OldCoder I assume this will work and be safer
00:05 OldCoder Hmm
00:05 NekoGloop cy1: XD
00:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, this is not in the master?
00:05 OldCoder k
00:05 cy1 not like we can actually sit in couches anyway...
00:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, any chance of pasting that?
00:06 RealBadAngel who cares, couch is couch ;)
00:06 NekoGloop you can put it all on one line, lua doesnt care.
00:06 OldCoder All right
00:06 T_A_N_K well you can
00:06 OldCoder <NekoGloop> inventory plus, bags, armor, and home GUI
00:06 NekoGloop it is seperated into lines to make it easier to read to a human
00:06 cy1 an armor mod? How does that work?
00:06 OldCoder There are no more dependencies?
00:07 T_A_N_K the trick would be to have the player right click, then the "sit" would be set to true, and on step the player would have their position set to make them feel like they were sitting on the couch or chair
00:07 NekoGloop oldCoder: nope, all are default (inventory plus for the others)
00:07 OldCoder All right
00:07 cy1 also I can't get fish to spawn with the animals mod :/
00:07 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: we mean stairsplus couches, like what i showed you
00:07 OldCoder You made mese tougher?
00:08 NekoGloop yes
00:08 OldCoder k
00:08 cy1 T_A_N_K: and the sensory force feedback body suit they were wearing would feel like soft pleather
00:08 NekoGloop wood was bumped up, as was steel
00:08 OldCoder Got it
00:08 T_A_N_K lol, nekogloop, may i have a link to papyrus beds?
00:08 NekoGloop this way, having no armor makes you actually able to be damaged
00:08 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: just a minute
00:09 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2708
00:09 NekoGloop OldCoder: ^
00:09 NekoGloop and T_A_N_K as well.
00:09 cy1 NekoGloop: It's JUST a mod, not a custom server?
00:09 OldCoder Reviewing
00:10 NekoGloop cy1: yup
00:10 OldCoder NekoGloop, You are suggesting a papyrus bed? Any dependencies?
00:10 cy1 This I want to see.
00:10 NekoGloop OldCoder: no depends.
00:10 OldCoder k
00:10 OldCoder Adding
00:10 cy1 yeah a paper bad that sounds comfy
00:10 cy1 :x
00:10 NekoGloop cy1: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3099
00:10 OldCoder cy1, is the animals mod working?
00:11 cy1 NekoGloop: holy crap that's awesome :o
00:11 NekoGloop ok my fingers are tired now from all this typing...
00:11 cy1 OldCoder: Sure, but I can't get fish to spawn for some reason.
00:11 OldCoder cy1, if that is all it is probably O.K.
00:11 NekoGloop animals?
00:11 OldCoder mod
00:11 cy1 sure... oh also vombies can move and attack you invisibly <_<
00:11 OldCoder ^
00:11 NekoGloop NO DONT PUT IT ON THE SERVER
00:11 OldCoder All right
00:12 OldCoder Curious; y?
00:12 NekoGloop animals eats servers
00:12 OldCoder Oh
00:12 cy1 NekoGloop: Have you tried it recently? It's a lot improved from before.
00:12 OldCoder High CPU
00:12 NekoGloop cy1: no, because it still sucks I'm sure.
00:12 cy1 Honestly the flowers mod kills my CPU a lot more than animals.
00:12 T_A_N_K excuse my german but those beds are sexy, they actually look comfortable
00:12 NekoGloop pilzadam's mod is more useful, although i'd love it if the issue with windows was fixed
00:12 NekoGloop HINT HINT
00:13 cy1 The vombie thing is a client problem actually. Clients stop moving ClientActiveObjects if they're far away or wait... was that a hack I made?
00:14 cy1 to keep CAOs from trouncing the client if dumped in gratuitous amounts distantly
00:14 cy1 ...
00:14 cy1 damn I've been being slaughtered by teleporting invisible vombies and it's my own fault
00:15 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LenenAMHC2w&amp;feature=related i lol'd so hard
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00:16 OldCoder armor bags cactusmod charcoal farming flowers gates gloopores home_gui inventory_plus mesecons moreores papyrus_bed pipeworks pump technic xfences
00:16 OldCoder NekoGloop or anybody else: Does that look about right?
00:18 NekoGloop try this mod list: http://ompldr.org/vZm0yZQ
00:18 NekoGloop :D
00:18 NekoGloop alchemy... i should remove that fail project lol
00:19 NekoGloop i have pilz's beds and papyrus beds, just for variety XD
00:19 OldCoder We have papyrus beds
00:19 OldCoder Look at the list
00:20 OldCoder Does pilzbeds have dependencies?
00:20 NekoGloop see if you can find my next project in that picture.
00:20 OldCoder Ah
00:20 NekoGloop oldcoder: they need wool.
00:20 NekoGloop which if you dont have farming...
00:20 OldCoder Does wool have depends?
00:20 NekoGloop GET FARMING
00:20 OldCoder Fine
00:20 NekoGloop wool is in default XD
00:20 OldCoder Depends for *that* ?
00:20 OldCoder Wait
00:20 OldCoder So wool and farming are provided already?
00:20 NekoGloop no
00:20 NekoGloop wool is
00:20 NekoGloop farming is not
00:21 OldCoder Fine
00:21 OldCoder farming depends on?
00:21 OldCoder whoa
00:21 OldCoder that's a lot of mods
00:21 NekoGloop did you just look at the picture? ;)
00:21 OldCoder I suppose nobody has made a nice ZIP
00:21 OldCoder Yes
00:21 OldCoder I need that in text
00:21 NekoGloop my ZIP would be at least 100mb conpressed XD
00:21 OldCoder So?
00:21 OldCoder I have room
00:22 NekoGloop that and i have some projects I'm working on
00:22 OldCoder farming depends on?
00:22 NekoGloop default, bucket, wool, and something else in the forum post
00:22 OldCoder nature_pack
00:22 OldCoder bucket and wool are o.k. then?
00:22 NekoGloop yes
00:23 NekoGloop nature_pack: ew. no. just... no.
00:23 OldCoder Farming says depends on it
00:23 OldCoder Depends on flowers mod included in nature_pack
00:23 OldCoder Oh can just extract flowers I assume
00:23 NekoGloop yes.
00:24 OldCoder Ha
00:24 OldCoder From the other Neko
00:24 NekoGloop yes
00:24 OldCoder Working
00:24 NekoGloop please... just no nature_pack
00:24 OldCoder No
00:24 OldCoder Just flowers
00:24 OldCoder For farming
00:24 NekoGloop lol ok
00:24 NekoGloop unifieddyes?
00:25 OldCoder Wait
00:25 OldCoder You can check the list again
00:25 NekoGloop xdoors2?
00:25 OldCoder Please hold
00:25 NekoGloop jumping mod? (trampolines and cushions)
00:25 NekoGloop moreblocks
00:25 OldCoder Please hold
00:25 NekoGloop lol what do i hold on to?
00:26 OldCoder Time
00:26 OldCoder I need to make a self contained set
00:26 OldCoder Getting there
00:27 cy1 hm, armor doesn't just work with mobs damn
00:27 OldCoder So there are two types of flowers
00:27 RealBadAngel use the flowers i sent you with modpack
00:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, will those replace neko259 flowers for farming purposes?
00:27 RealBadAngel theres farming and flowers mod
00:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I see farming.
00:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, will those replace neko259 flowers for farming purposes?
00:28 RealBadAngel havent played with nekos259 one
00:28 NekoGloop farming doesnt use flowers to my knowledge
00:28 RealBadAngel with this ones and you can have dyes and wool
00:28 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is in the farming post
00:29 NekoGloop so its a dependancy with no use.
00:29 OldCoder Adding dyes
00:29 NekoGloop unifieddyes
00:29 RealBadAngel dyes are built in
00:29 OldCoder So no unifieddyes?
00:30 NekoGloop get unifieddyes!
00:30 OldCoder All right
00:30 NekoGloop a mod that gives builtin vessels a use == awesome
00:30 RealBadAngel some other mods may use it
00:30 OldCoder This mod will NOT work without buckets, vessels, and sources of flowers and junglegrass.
00:31 RealBadAngel vessels were made as a part of unified dyes
00:31 NekoGloop get vanessae's junglegrass mod
00:31 OldCoder Working
00:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Ah. I C. You sent me her flowes.
00:32 OldCoder *r
00:32 RealBadAngel yes, those are vanessa's flowers
00:32 OldCoder O.K. Where do I get buckets and vessels?
00:32 cy1 Oh, because mobs don't check armor groups at all, just figure a hp amount based on mob type
00:32 RealBadAngel both are built in
00:32 OldCoder Then almost done
00:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, is xdoors2 important?
00:33 OldCoder You mentioned it above
00:33 NekoGloop yes
00:33 OldCoder Also jumping
00:33 OldCoder ?
00:34 NekoGloop jeija's jumping
00:34 OldCoder xdoors2 and jumping: depends?
00:35 NekoGloop depends on default
00:35 NekoGloop both of them
00:35 OldCoder k
00:38 OldCoder Still working
00:39 OldCoder RealBadAngel, O.K. Technic is yours
00:39 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Should I install Haven texture pack?
00:40 RealBadAngel would be nice :)
00:40 OldCoder k
00:40 OldCoder How?
00:40 RealBadAngel hold on i will update it
00:43 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/HavenTP
00:43 OldCoder k
00:43 OldCoder RealBadAngel, NekoGloop Hang around at least a few minutes
00:43 OldCoder Will need to check again
00:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Is there a GitHub ZIP link for that?
00:44 RealBadAngel yeah
00:44 OldCoder Found it
00:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, How do I install HavenTP
00:45 RealBadAngel copy all the textures to textures/all
00:45 OldCoder k
00:45 T_A_N_K realbadangel, can i actually craft the tubey goodness things? :D
00:46 RealBadAngel you can craft nodebreaker and deployers
00:46 T_A_N_K :D :D :D
00:46 RealBadAngel deployers are not finished, workin on them right now
00:47 OldCoder <cy1> Honestly the flowers mod kills my CPU a lot more than animals.
00:47 OldCoder I will need to pay $$$ for this
00:47 OldCoder Are Vanessa's flowers an issue?
00:48 cy1 oh fucking hell scriptapi has set_armor_groups but no get_armor_groups
00:48 T_A_N_K if i make you some music, can you add it to your mod?
00:48 cy1 OldCoder: Well, depends how much you turn them up but yeah.
00:48 OldCoder If I omit the flowers will farming break?
00:49 cy1 Vanessa's flowers register one ABM on dirt for every kind of flower.
00:49 cy1 I don't think farming depends on flowers...
00:49 OldCoder Post says it does
00:49 OldCoder I will try omitting them
00:49 OldCoder Whose mod is pump? Link?
00:49 cy1 That ABM goes off now and again, and usually does nothing at all, wasting your server CPU
00:49 RealBadAngel ive made technic dep on flowers, coz i need dyes
00:49 OldCoder Ah
00:49 OldCoder So must have them
00:49 cy1 And if you're lucky and the flowers aren't too dense and you have air and everything's fine, you get a flower.
00:50 OldCoder Is this going to cost me $100s ?
00:50 cy1 nah I'm just complaining
00:50 OldCoder So not a huge CPU time issue?
00:50 OldCoder Whose mod is pump ?
00:50 RealBadAngel T_A_N_K, you were talkin to me?
00:50 T_A_N_K yes
00:50 RealBadAngel mine, it is in deps?
00:51 RealBadAngel T_A_N_K, theres already music pack for technic
00:51 T_A_N_K alternate music pack?
00:51 T_A_N_K :3
00:51 RealBadAngel look at the technic post, theres link for it
00:52 cy1 OldCoder: pumps same guy as technic
00:52 OldCoder k
00:52 RealBadAngel remove pump
00:52 OldCoder Not needed?
00:52 RealBadAngel its here by accident
00:52 OldCoder Then almost done again
00:52 RealBadAngel is wip
00:52 OldCoder Wait
00:53 NekoGloop cy1: about a lot of lines up, use the player's armors.
00:53 T_A_N_K wow this papyrus bedmod is freakin awesome
00:53 OldCoder http://pastebin.ca/2207076
00:54 OldCoder Everybody please review that
00:54 OldCoder Are there missing dependencies or desired additions?
00:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, armor includes your patches
00:55 RealBadAngel ok with me
00:55 OldCoder Should fly?
00:55 OldCoder k
00:55 OldCoder NekoGloop?
00:56 NekoGloop yes?
00:56 OldCoder See link above
00:56 NekoGloop yes
00:56 OldCoder Missing anything? Depends or desired mods?
00:59 NekoGloop hm...
00:59 OldCoder How do I install mesecons? Copy all of the mesecons* folders?
00:59 NekoGloop nope, that should be all
00:59 OldCoder README only mentions one
00:59 NekoGloop you just install the modpack
00:59 OldCoder How?
01:00 OldCoder I see
01:00 OldCoder It can be done as multiple level?
01:00 OldCoder Tree does not need to be flattened?
01:01 NekoGloop you need a modpack.txt in the folder
01:01 OldCoder Yes
01:01 OldCoder I think I'm set
01:01 OldCoder ls
01:01 OldCoder Oops
01:01 NekoGloop so if mesecons\modpack.txt then it reads the rest of the folders as more mods
01:01 OldCoder Almost all of these can be flattened
01:01 OldCoder Yes
01:09 OldCoder Ha
01:09 OldCoder AWS works
01:09 RealBadAngel is server up?
01:09 OldCoder Soon
01:09 OldCoder With a domain even
01:12 OldCoder Anybody here familiar with A and CNAME records?
01:16 T_A_N_K nekogloop, want to try a game mode, which i call technic ultra?
01:16 NekoGloop nah
01:17 NekoGloop i have enough gamemodes XD
01:17 T_A_N_K i took all the best mods, made them all work together perfectly, and added some things in, such as shears, and tuned some things, to make the game feel better
01:17 NekoGloop i see
01:23 T_A_N_K i'm basically pulling a hackerzside
01:26 RealBadAngel ok, ive made placing nodes and planting saplings with deployer
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01:30 T_A_N_K VanessaE: do i have your permission to put your awesome mods into an extreme modpack?
01:31 T_A_N_K (with credit)
01:44 OldCoder 01:43:37: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "technic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "dye".
01:44 OldCoder 01:43:37: ERROR[main]: mod "unifieddyes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "vessels"
01:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^
01:44 OldCoder dye and vessels don't seem to be built in
01:44 OldCoder This is based on 0.4.3-git
01:44 RealBadAngel strange
01:44 OldCoder BTW I am about ready to launch this
01:44 OldCoder Let's finish it if possible
01:45 RealBadAngel you have compiled it?
01:45 OldCoder Just now
01:45 OldCoder Using the latest sources
01:45 OldCoder Is there a stable 0.4.3 snapshot?
01:45 OldCoder semi-stable anyway
01:45 RealBadAngel have you downloaded mintest-game?
01:45 OldCoder Yes
01:45 OldCoder It works with 0.4.1
01:45 RealBadAngel 041 doesnt have vessels and dye
01:46 OldCoder I know
01:46 OldCoder I mean minetest_game works
01:46 RealBadAngel you should download mintest game for 0.4.3
01:46 OldCoder Do you mean minetest_game?
01:46 RealBadAngel yes
01:46 OldCoder I have done so AFAIK
01:46 OldCoder That is where the mods are installed
01:46 OldCoder Checking to see if I have the wrong one
01:46 OldCoder That would explain it
01:46 OldCoder Working
01:47 OldCoder Probably
01:47 RealBadAngel you should have 11 mods in games/minetest_game/mods
01:47 OldCoder Yes
01:47 OldCoder Working
01:48 RealBadAngel video with deployer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0&amp;feature=youtu.be
01:49 OldCoder Better
01:49 OldCoder 01:48:51: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from
01:49 OldCoder 01:48:51: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/
01:49 OldCoder farming/init.lua:
01:49 OldCoder 01:48:51: ERROR[main]: ...e/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/farming/init.lua:5
01:49 OldCoder 7: attempt to call global 'flowers_add_sprite_flower' (a nil value)
01:49 OldCoder Just farming now
01:49 OldCoder A flower problem
01:49 OldCoder I am using Vanessa's latest flowers. Would that be compatible with the flowers you had? Or do I need Neko259 flowers?
01:50 OldCoder Is it possible latest farming needs Neko259 flowers?
01:51 OldCoder Checking
01:51 RealBadAngel wait
01:51 OldCoder Yep
01:51 OldCoder Farming now depends on Neko259 flowers
01:51 RealBadAngel you have put farming into minetest_game?
01:52 OldCoder RealBadAngel, One of you urged it
01:52 OldCoder Should I take it out?
01:52 RealBadAngel minetest_game is only for built in mods
01:52 OldCoder All right
01:52 OldCoder Where should all of the added mods go?
01:53 RealBadAngel on windows /mods/minetest
01:53 OldCoder That is not enough
01:53 OldCoder That mods folder
01:53 OldCoder Where does it go?
01:53 OldCoder Are there any Linux users present?
01:53 RealBadAngel look for the file mods_here.txt
01:54 OldCoder No file begins with mods
01:54 OldCoder I don't think that is the problem
01:54 RealBadAngel yes it is
01:54 OldCoder Issue is that farming now depends on Neko259 flowers
01:54 OldCoder Go on then
01:54 OldCoder I simply need to know where to put the mods
01:54 RealBadAngel gimme ur game directory tree
01:54 OldCoder One moment
01:56 RealBadAngel btw farming depends just on built in mods, nothin more
01:56 OldCoder k
01:56 OldCoder One moment
01:56 OldCoder http://pastebin.ca/2207079
01:57 OldCoder RealBadAngel, post includes otherwise about farming but O.K.
01:57 RealBadAngel lol seems you dont have mods directory at all
01:58 OldCoder That is sort of my point :-)
01:58 OldCoder Where does it go?
01:58 OldCoder The docs are kind of lacking
01:58 RealBadAngel hold on
01:59 RealBadAngel create ./share/minetest/mods/minetest
01:59 RealBadAngel and put there all the mods
01:59 OldCoder Sure the last part should be there/
01:59 OldCoder ?
01:59 RealBadAngel yes
01:59 OldCoder Also; see the farming post. It says Neko259 nature pack. But all right.
01:59 OldCoder Working
01:59 RealBadAngel hmmm maybe he added somethin
02:00 OldCoder I think so. I grepped the code
02:00 RealBadAngel i have version without such deps
02:00 OldCoder Yep
02:00 OldCoder I used latest
02:00 OldCoder I don't think this will fix it
02:00 T_A_N_K fancy game mode http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3174
02:01 T_A_N_K donaldr3, how is the mod coming along? :D
02:02 RealBadAngel T_A_N_K, seen the video?
02:03 T_A_N_K can i has link to it realbadangel?
02:03 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0&amp;feature=youtu.be
02:04 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlhBrM0RAIY
02:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, any way to tell if the mods are being loaded?
02:05 T_A_N_K nice!!
02:05 RealBadAngel some of them print out "loaded!" or something in the console
02:05 RealBadAngel i mean debug console of minetest
02:05 OldCoder k
02:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, No mods seem to be loaded except from minetest_game
02:06 OldCoder I think they need to go there and I need to add Neko259 flowers
02:06 OldCoder The question is; will Vanessa flowers conflict with Neko259 flowers?
02:06 RealBadAngel no way you put mods it minetest_game
02:06 OldCoder Then where do they go?
02:07 OldCoder Wait
02:07 RealBadAngel mods/minetest/
02:07 OldCoder working on it
02:08 OldCoder RealBadAngel, can you give me any "registering" message to grep for?
02:08 OldCoder Because I don't think they are being found
02:09 RealBadAngel give me error logs
02:09 OldCoder There are no errors
02:09 OldCoder It starts
02:09 RealBadAngel game launches?
02:09 OldCoder Yes
02:09 OldCoder You can come play shortly
02:09 RealBadAngel go for creative
02:09 OldCoder Building client now
02:09 OldCoder About 5 minutes
02:10 RealBadAngel ?
02:10 OldCoder To build client
02:10 OldCoder So I can see what is there
02:10 RealBadAngel so what you have compiled before?
02:10 OldCoder I compiled on the server side
02:10 OldCoder Not on my PC
02:10 OldCoder I need to build a 0.4.3 client
02:10 OldCoder For myself
02:10 RealBadAngel thats why you didnt have the directories
02:10 OldCoder Not following
02:11 OldCoder That does not make sense
02:11 OldCoder Server side compile
02:11 OldCoder Has nothing to do with my PC
02:11 RealBadAngel you shall compile whole game
02:11 OldCoder I *did* do that
02:11 RealBadAngel not just the server side
02:11 OldCoder All of it
02:11 OldCoder You have misunderstood
02:11 OldCoder No
02:11 RealBadAngel ah
02:11 OldCoder You have misunderstood
02:11 RealBadAngel ok
02:11 OldCoder Wait
02:12 RealBadAngel btw i just compiled the game on debian and have all the directories and files
02:12 OldCoder I am very happy for you :p
02:12 OldCoder I did a very standard cmake && make && make install
02:13 OldCoder That is what happened under Ubuntu
02:14 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78
02:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, come and play
02:15 OldCoder What is in there?
02:15 OldCoder Reviewing
02:15 RealBadAngel compile quide for linux ;)
02:15 RealBadAngel guide
02:15 RealBadAngel whats the ip?
02:15 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have done all of that
02:15 OldCoder Come and play
02:15 OldCoder develan.com
02:15 OldCoder port 30000
02:16 RealBadAngel connecting
02:16 OldCoder Are the mods there or not?
02:17 OldCoder If not; they should work if I move them back
02:17 OldCoder but I will need Neko259 flowers
02:17 RealBadAngel i dont know yet
02:18 RealBadAngel i dont think so, it looks like no mods at all
02:18 OldCoder My point stands
02:18 OldCoder Now...
02:19 OldCoder Will Vanessa and Neko259 flowers conflict?
02:19 NekoGloop yes
02:19 NekoGloop both are named flowers
02:19 OldCoder What happens if I remove Vanessa flowers?
02:19 OldCoder That is simple
02:19 OldCoder Actually no
02:19 NekoGloop Neko259 flowers == VanessaE flowers
02:19 NekoGloop at least, an old version of them
02:19 OldCoder Then shall I simply delete VanessaE flowers?
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02:20 OldCoder And install Neko259 flowers so that farming can work?
02:20 VanessaE what huh?
02:20 VanessaE oh
02:20 OldCoder VanessaE, Lots of new servers coming
02:20 VanessaE my flowers doesn't as far as I know interact with anything but irontrees and bushes, which I already patched.
02:21 OldCoder RealBadAngel, See above
02:21 VanessaE it shouldn't have any relation to farming.
02:21 OldCoder Comment?
02:21 OldCoder VanessaE, It doesn't
02:21 RealBadAngel https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming/blob/master/depends.txt
02:21 OldCoder Reviewing
02:21 RealBadAngel farming doesnt need nothin but defaults
02:21 OldCoder That is *not* what the post says
02:21 OldCoder And grep the source code for yourself
02:21 OldCoder Wait
02:21 RealBadAngel im reading it now
02:22 RealBadAngel theres nothin bout neko259 mods
02:22 OldCoder Wait
02:22 OldCoder You are right; but it is there somewhere
02:22 OldCoder Hold on
02:22 OldCoder I found it an hour ago
02:22 RealBadAngel https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming
02:23 OldCoder *shrug*
02:23 RealBadAngel theres his code and mod
02:23 OldCoder Somebody depends on Neko259 flowers
02:23 OldCoder Server will not start without them
02:23 OldCoder And I still don't know where to put mods under Linux
02:23 OldCoder You say; not into minetest_game. Where, then?
02:23 OldCoder I think they need to go back there
02:23 OldCoder If not, where?
02:24 RealBadAngel tree should like like this
02:24 OldCoder I see you building
02:25 RealBadAngel ..       /games  /textures /worlds /mods
02:25 RealBadAngel etc
02:25 OldCoder But the mods are not being detected
02:25 OldCoder And they were detected in the original location
02:25 OldCoder Comments?
02:25 OldCoder Am I the *only* Linux person?
02:26 RealBadAngel damn, ive built same source on debian and i do have the directories
02:26 OldCoder Yep
02:26 OldCoder I assure you:
02:26 OldCoder cmake with a prefix; maybe that is the issue
02:26 OldCoder make && make install
02:26 OldCoder Hmm
02:26 OldCoder I'll bet it's the use of a prefix
02:26 OldCoder Is there a configuration file option?
02:27 OldCoder That might be simple
02:27 RealBadAngel with parameters? like in the guide?
02:27 OldCoder Checking
02:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I don't see any relevant parameters
02:28 RealBadAngel i can see
02:28 OldCoder I will review further
02:28 RealBadAngel debug or realease for exaple
02:28 OldCoder Yes
02:28 OldCoder But not relevant to where the mods go
02:28 OldCoder Except for prefix
02:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Not much more you can say
02:29 OldCoder Thank you
02:29 OldCoder Experimenting further
02:29 RealBadAngel hmmm
02:30 OldCoder If there is a config file option
02:30 OldCoder that would help
02:30 OldCoder Wait
02:31 OldCoder Is there a make install_data or something?
02:31 OldCoder Nope
02:32 RealBadAngel have you built whole game or just server side?
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02:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I *told* you. All of it. When I said server side I meant on the server.
02:33 OldCoder Reviewing CMake code
02:33 OldCoder I'll figure it out
02:35 OldCoder I think cmake is skipping part of the install
02:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I think I found the problem
02:37 OldCoder Or one problem
02:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Have you tested building from git?
02:38 RealBadAngel yup
02:38 OldCoder Notice that git sources do not include minetest_game
02:38 OldCoder True?
02:38 RealBadAngel yes
02:38 OldCoder Look yourself at the CMakeLists file
02:38 OldCoder See for yourself
02:38 RealBadAngel you have to download it
02:38 OldCoder If that folder is not present
02:38 OldCoder I know
02:38 OldCoder If that folder is not present
02:39 OldCoder cmake will not install what you are talking about
02:39 OldCoder It's right there in the code
02:39 OldCoder Patching this
02:43 RealBadAngel ive compiling it again
02:43 RealBadAngel 1st downloaded sources, downloaded minetest_game
02:44 RealBadAngel cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release
02:44 RealBadAngel make -j2
02:44 OldCoder No!
02:44 RealBadAngel and thats all
02:44 OldCoder Wrong!
02:44 OldCoder -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
02:44 OldCoder ^ Not correct
02:44 OldCoder That is for run in place
02:44 OldCoder We have identified the difference
02:44 RealBadAngel im building it same directory as sources
02:45 OldCoder You are also setting RUN_IN_PLACE
02:45 OldCoder which is incorrect for a distro configuration
02:45 OldCoder That is the difference
02:45 OldCoder Moving on then
02:45 RealBadAngel want another way so specify directory and  -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
02:45 OldCoder Not following
02:46 RealBadAngel - If you want to install it system-wide (or are making a distribution package), you will want to use -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
02:46 OldCoder Yes
02:46 OldCoder But that appears to be the default
02:46 OldCoder Experimenting
02:48 RealBadAngel ive also deleted CMakeCache.txt
02:48 RealBadAngel before ive run cmake
02:49 NekoGloop Meow...
02:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hello kitty
02:50 RealBadAngel woof woof
02:50 NekoGloop ^w^
02:50 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Looks like I have hit the CPU limits on my EC2
02:50 RealBadAngel seen deployer neko?
02:50 OldCoder Might be stuck for now
02:50 NekoGloop No havent seen it.
02:50 NekoGloop ipad atm
02:50 RealBadAngel no youtube on ipad?
02:51 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0
02:51 NekoGloop Well i get youtube xD
02:51 NekoGloop I thought you meant thru github
02:53 NekoGloop Cool.
02:53 RealBadAngel i havent uploaded it to github yet, it can now only place nodes and plant seeds or saplings
02:53 RealBadAngel no tools usage yet
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02:55 RealBadAngel damn 5am, i think i will go to sleep for 2 hours at least
02:55 NekoGloop Lol
02:55 T_A_N_K realbadangel, what can be used with mesecons?
02:55 T_A_N_K i tried the electric furnace
02:55 T_A_N_K oh, goodnight lol
02:55 RealBadAngel deployer and nodebreaker by now
02:56 NekoGloop Only deployer and nodebreaker
02:56 RealBadAngel later on i will add more control logic
02:56 T_A_N_K nekogloop, how do i get diamond?
02:56 NekoGloop Dig,
02:56 RealBadAngel deep down
02:56 NekoGloop Dig a lot.
02:56 T_A_N_K OH GOD
02:57 T_A_N_K diggy diggy HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEEEEEEEEEEE
02:57 NekoGloop It's about 2x as rare as mc diamonds.
02:58 RealBadAngel ive made them lately a bit more common
02:58 RealBadAngel not much ;)
03:00 T_A_N_K at around 20,000 ores outnumber stone
03:00 NekoGloop Yes
03:01 NekoGloop That's your reward for gloopores moreores and technic all at once
03:03 NekoGloop Good night
03:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
03:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I moved the mods back where they were and replaced Vanessa flowers with neko259 flowers
03:11 OldCoder World loads now with the mods
03:11 OldCoder Try it
03:12 T_A_N_K test
03:14 cy1 wtf is up with armor groups and groupcaps for tools
03:14 cy1 if you have armor fleshy=4 that's bad against swords, right?
03:14 OldCoder cy1, care to try a new 0.4.3 server with most of the key mods?
03:14 cy1 OldCoder: I'll hold off for now, tryin to get mobs and armor to work together.
03:14 OldCoder cy1, O.K.
03:15 OldCoder VanessaE, awake?
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03:28 cornernote hey
03:33 OldCoder cornernote, Hello
03:33 OldCoder cornernote, I am using your mods on a new server
03:33 cornernote cool
03:33 cornernote whats the server ?
03:33 OldCoder Showing up in a moment
03:33 OldCoder Just backing up...
03:33 OldCoder k
03:33 OldCoder There are two worlds running:
03:34 OldCoder Port 30000 is 0.4.3 git with lots of mods and a fresh map
03:34 OldCoder Port 30001 is 0.4.1 stable with a small set of mods and tuxworld by mrtux
03:34 OldCoder Try either; they are running concurrently
03:34 OldCoder Location is:
03:34 OldCoder Server: develan.com
03:34 OldCoder Port: 30000 for 0.4.3 and 30001 for 0.4.1 tuxworld
03:35 OldCoder Your stuff is at 30000
03:35 OldCoder
03:35 cornernote trying with my 0.4.3 latest from sfan5's builds
03:35 OldCoder All right
03:41 cornernote sorry, was on skype with someone
03:41 cornernote aparently supposed to be working or some crap
03:42 * OldCoder shrugs
03:42 OldCoder I spent about 2 hours debating with RBA about where the mods were supposed to go
03:42 OldCoder For my Linux server build...
03:42 OldCoder They will *not* work presently in mods/minetest
03:42 OldCoder Server simply does not find them anywhere but inside minetest_game
03:43 OldCoder With that change and replacing Vanessa's flowers with Neko259's flowers
03:43 OldCoder Everything seems to run
03:43 cornernote its a little lagy
03:43 cornernote where are you ?
03:43 cornernote im in australia
03:43 OldCoder U.S.
03:44 OldCoder Seems fast enough here
03:45 cornernote i think cos its sending me all the world packets
03:45 cornernote like for around here
03:45 OldCoder Hmm?
03:45 OldCoder Explain
03:45 cornernote once its loaded more of the area it will be more responsive
03:45 OldCoder Ah
03:46 OldCoder I am trapped underwater
03:47 OldCoder Stuck; restarting
03:48 OldCoder How do I get out?
03:49 OldCoder Hmm
03:49 OldCoder You are there
03:51 OldCoder I will back up these worlds several times a day eventually
03:51 OldCoder Then no griefing
04:00 cornernote its still really laggy for me :(
04:00 OldCoder Sorry to hear it. Any theories?
04:01 cornernote minetest doesnt work well with high latency ?
04:01 OldCoder If laggy I'll need to have others test it. It is an Amazon AWS EC2 instance.
04:01 cornernote lemme ping u
04:01 OldCoder Should be plenty fast enough
04:01 OldCoder Do the pings
04:01 OldCoder I'll need to enable pings I guess
04:01 cornernote ping timed out
04:01 cornernote =)
04:01 OldCoder Not exactly
04:01 OldCoder It isn't supported
04:01 OldCoder I'll have others test
04:02 OldCoder Seems fast here
04:02 OldCoder Have you tried other U.S. AWS EC2 VMs before?
04:02 cornernote yes, but not for MT
04:02 OldCoder Ah
04:02 cornernote i have never tried one with mt
04:02 OldCoder We'll see if there is a consensus
04:02 cornernote cant see why it wouldnt work tho
04:02 OldCoder This is a release build
04:02 OldCoder And CPU usage is low
04:02 OldCoder Checking that again
04:03 cornernote u need fast disk writes
04:03 cornernote and fast network
04:03 OldCoder Yes
04:03 OldCoder I have been told that requirements aren't actually that high
04:03 cornernote not so much cpu, mt is quite nice on the cpu most of the time
04:03 OldCoder Any tips regarding optimization or testing?
04:03 OldCoder Ah
04:03 cornernote i saw this... sec...
04:03 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1825
04:03 cornernote have you done that ?
04:03 OldCoder Reviewing
04:04 OldCoder Let me do that right now
04:04 OldCoder Which folder do I place the .conf file in?
04:04 cornernote sec
04:04 cornernote the same folder bin is in
04:05 cornernote eg, the top level
04:05 OldCoder Sure?
04:05 OldCoder Wait
04:05 OldCoder You are thinking Windows
04:05 cornernote thats where minetest.conf.example is
04:05 cornernote i have no idea on linux
04:05 cornernote lol
04:05 OldCoder I seem to be the only Linux person
04:05 OldCoder Checking the source code now
04:05 cornernote not at all
04:05 OldCoder I will try this
04:05 OldCoder Nobody else commented tonight at all
04:05 OldCoder Give me a couple of minutes
04:05 OldCoder Thx for advice
04:05 cornernote most of the core devs and moders that write code seem to use linux
04:05 OldCoder Yes
04:06 cornernote lemme know when server is back up
04:06 OldCoder Yes
04:13 OldCoder cornernote, try it now
04:15 cornernote yes, thats way better
04:15 OldCoder O.K.
04:15 OldCoder thx
04:15 cornernote its not instant, but its not uber laggy
04:15 OldCoder All right
04:15 cornernote its like 0.5 - 1s behind
04:15 cornernote instead of like 5-7s
04:15 OldCoder Will note. Also will back up this sutff.
04:15 OldCoder That is still slow
04:15 OldCoder I am not seeing delays
04:15 cornernote whats the ping tho ?
04:16 OldCoder Hmm?
04:16 OldCoder The OS doesn't have ping enabled
04:16 cornernote whats the ping response time
04:16 OldCoder The OS doesn't have ping enabled
04:16 cornernote then we cant check the latency caused by distance
04:16 OldCoder I'd need to reconfigure and am falling asleep
04:16 OldCoder I can add ping
04:16 cornernote lol
04:16 OldCoder But not tonight
04:16 cornernote ok, go sleep then =)
04:16 * OldCoder shrugs
04:16 OldCoder Not yet
04:16 OldCoder Anyway
04:16 cornernote its cool, its a lot better than it was
04:16 OldCoder Servers seem to work
04:16 OldCoder Have fun
04:16 cornernote thanks
04:16 OldCoder I will back up the worlds
04:17 OldCoder No more griefing then
04:17 OldCoder Might back them up hourly
04:17 OldCoder We'll see
04:17 OldCoder If you have 0.4.1 client too mrtuxworld is on port 30001
04:17 OldCoder If you have a map of your own
04:17 OldCoder I can run that as well
04:17 OldCoder Everybody's map can be saved and backed up
04:17 OldCoder I figure I can run about a dozen of these things
04:18 OldCoder
04:18 cornernote i ran a skyblock one
04:18 OldCoder cornernote, I will post a list of mods on my own site. You and others suggest as many mods as you like. But I prefer low dependencies and stable.
04:19 OldCoder Skyblock?
04:19 OldCoder What is that?
04:19 cornernote its one of my mods
04:19 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2799
04:19 OldCoder Shall I add it?
04:19 cornernote only if you want to nuke your world
04:19 OldCoder Explain
04:19 cornernote needs its own world
04:20 OldCoder How good is the mod? I can make a skyblock world
04:20 cornernote sure
04:20 OldCoder Again... I will be running a number of servers
04:20 OldCoder What does it do?
04:20 cornernote basically.... it makes aliases for all mapgen_
04:20 cornernote to air
04:20 cornernote so no mapgen
04:20 OldCoder Reading
04:20 OldCoder Result is?
04:20 cornernote you start on a little island
04:20 cornernote and you have missions
04:21 cornernote build stuff, etc
04:21 OldCoder I see
04:21 cornernote then you get rewards
04:21 OldCoder Do people play this?
04:21 cornernote me and my kids do
04:21 cornernote lol
04:21 OldCoder That is fine
04:21 cornernote i dunno about others
04:21 OldCoder Will others try it if you explain?
04:21 cornernote i just put it up incase others want to
04:21 OldCoder One question
04:21 cornernote yeah, others have played it
04:21 cornernote its not like super popular or anything
04:21 cornernote but it is a lot of fun
04:22 OldCoder If I install the mod I assume it is activated automatically. Is there any simple way to enable or disable it on a per world basis?
04:22 cornernote i do it by creating a game... eg..
04:22 OldCoder Ah
04:22 OldCoder Yes!
04:22 cornernote copy games/minetest_game to games/skyblock_game
04:22 OldCoder That will work
04:23 OldCoder Is this in fact quite fun?
04:23 cornernote play it, you tell me
04:23 cornernote i really enjoy it
04:23 OldCoder Hmm
04:23 cornernote building starting from nothing
04:23 OldCoder I will make you a skyblock world
04:23 OldCoder If you will get it started afterward
04:23 OldCoder I assume building is still possible?
04:23 cornernote you will want to refer to the craft guide to make basic things like dirt/gravel
04:23 cornernote http://cornernote.net/minetest/skyblock/wiki/crafts.php
04:24 OldCoder Too tired for tonight
04:24 OldCoder Let me get this started and see how it goes
04:24 khonkhortisan offtopic -> Does ebay have a "mark as received" button?
04:24 OldCoder cornernote, is it compatible with the other mods?
04:24 cornernote yes, but there is one thing to note
04:24 OldCoder Go on
04:25 cornernote if your other mod is moreores, then you need to give the player a way to get the ore
04:25 cornernote because there is no mapgen
04:25 OldCoder Can I just delete moreores?
04:25 OldCoder What depends on it?
04:25 cornernote then the player wont be able to craft the items in the other mod
04:25 OldCoder Can I just delete moreores?
04:25 cornernote because they need the ore
04:25 OldCoder What depends on it?
04:26 cornernote many things depend on it, because it provides metals
04:26 OldCoder So...
04:26 cornernote many other mods i mean
04:26 OldCoder What needs to be done?
04:26 cornernote so the solution is....
04:26 cornernote when player digs stone, they get a % chance at a drop
04:26 cornernote need to add the ore into that drop
04:26 OldCoder How would I add this?
04:26 cornernote i'll show you how i do it
04:26 OldCoder Explain a bit
04:27 cornernote when you dig a node, you get a drop
04:27 cornernote you can define this drop, so that its a % chance at being some other item
04:27 cornernote like, dig dirt, 1/100 you get mese
04:27 OldCoder Wait
04:27 OldCoder Where are changes made?
04:28 cornernote you would have to make a mod, called my_mod
04:28 OldCoder Is tsuch a thing available?
04:28 cornernote and it would contain the overrides for stone dropping tin/minthril/etc
04:28 OldCoder Is such a thing available?
04:28 cornernote no, but its like 5 lines of code
04:29 OldCoder Make it and I will give you skyblock
04:29 cornernote theres nothing stand alone, that you can just download
04:29 OldCoder Make it and I will give you skyblock server now
04:29 OldCoder Setting it up
04:29 cornernote which mods do you want to support that you can only get the nodes from mapgen ?
04:29 cornernote eg, moreores, any others ?
04:29 OldCoder One moment
04:30 cornernote and what % chance do you want that you get the ore from stone drops
04:30 OldCoder pasting mods list in a minute
04:30 cornernote i'll make up an example, and you can tweak it
04:30 OldCoder Wait
04:30 cornernote like an example working mod for moreores+skyblock
04:30 OldCoder http://pastebin.ca/2207096
04:31 cornernote but, u should play skyblock with no mods 1st
04:31 OldCoder That is what we have presently
04:31 cornernote looking
04:32 cornernote ones that i know of that rely on mapgen are: moreores, gloopores, technic
04:32 OldCoder Are these mods good in skyblock?
04:32 cornernote no, skyblock has no mods.. it is a mod
04:32 OldCoder I mean
04:32 OldCoder Are these mods good in a skyblock game?
04:33 cornernote armor - no
04:33 cornernote bags - its good when you have lots of other mods
04:33 cornernote home_gui - not useful at all with skyblock, each player has a home
04:33 cornernote jumping - oh yes that would be fun
04:33 cornernote mesecons - always fun
04:34 cornernote flowers - yes, has paths to dyes, therefore wool
04:34 OldCoder removed armor and home_gui
04:34 cornernote NekoGloop - i'd have to look more at his mods, but they seem mostly to provide new blocks, some are functional
04:35 cornernote i been told xfences/gates was good
04:35 cornernote u should play skyblock with no mods
04:35 cornernote tomorrow
04:35 OldCoder ?
04:35 cornernote see what its all about
04:35 OldCoder No time left
04:35 OldCoder Setting it up for others
04:36 cornernote too busy setting up servers  lol
04:36 OldCoder Assume armor and home_gui are gone
04:36 OldCoder That was today
04:36 OldCoder Did not example a whole day on it
04:36 OldCoder *expect
04:36 OldCoder Provide a mod
04:36 OldCoder and I will run a skyblock
04:36 cornernote yeah, tweaking takes a lot
04:36 cornernote just run skyblock with no mods
04:36 OldCoder You sure?
04:36 cornernote then add in mods one by one as ppl ask for them
04:37 OldCoder You sure? We can't use the ones you referred to?
04:37 cornernote there are 4 levels, 40 tasks
04:37 cornernote sure, put a couple on, but skyblock doesnt need mods.. its kind of a game of its own... just happenes to be compatible with other mods
04:37 OldCoder All right
04:37 cornernote except if they need mapgen
04:37 OldCoder Sure you don't want to make the mapgen workaround mod?
04:38 cornernote i will do that soon, because skiblock seems to becoming more stable
04:38 OldCoder all right
04:38 cornernote but i need to consider how much ore to give, when to give it, etc
04:38 OldCoder Very well
04:38 OldCoder play the first world then
04:38 cornernote needs to be fun and challenging
04:38 OldCoder I will back it up periodically
04:52 * VanessaE peeks in for a sexc
04:52 VanessaE sec*
04:53 * VanessaE frowns at the use of the old ironzorg flowers mod (which is slower than mine)
04:53 OldCoder VanessaE, New servers!
04:54 VanessaE so I saw
04:54 OldCoder VanessaE, farming needs Neko flowers
04:54 OldCoder VanessaE, can you update your mod to work?
04:54 VanessaE then farming is broken, because neko259's flowers are outdated.
04:54 * OldCoder shrugs
04:54 VanessaE mine is included by default in neko259's nature pack now.
04:54 OldCoder NekoGloop ordered me not to use the nature pack
04:54 OldCoder Actually
04:55 VanessaE don't.
04:55 OldCoder I took the flowers from there
04:55 VanessaE nature pack is kind of a CPU hog by itself
04:55 OldCoder Yes
04:55 OldCoder I took the flowers from there
04:56 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787
04:56 VanessaE no mention of the word "flower" on the entire page.
04:56 OldCoder Something needed it
04:56 VanessaE that's the current farming mod i think./
04:56 VanessaE well find out what :-)
04:56 OldCoder I'll figure it out later
04:56 OldCoder Falling asleep
04:56 VanessaE ironzorg's flowers are CPU hog
04:56 OldCoder Setting up a Skyblock world
04:56 OldCoder Wait then
04:56 OldCoder Hold on a moment
04:56 VanessaE they use a manual-implemented-in-Lua method to look for space around a flower.
04:57 OldCoder Hold on a moment
04:57 VanessaE mine uses a built-in function in the game for that, which is far faster as it's in C++
04:57 OldCoder Hold on a moment
04:57 VanessaE ok
04:57 OldCoder 04:57:35: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "te
04:57 OldCoder chnic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers".
04:57 OldCoder 04:57:35: ERROR[main]: mod "farming" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers".
04:57 OldCoder 04:57:35: ERROR[main]: mod "unifieddyes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers"
04:57 OldCoder .
04:58 OldCoder And if I use yours
04:58 OldCoder There seems to be a missing API call
04:58 VanessaE what version of minetest?
04:58 OldCoder Latest git
04:58 OldCoder Today
04:58 VanessaE and what is the URL you got farming from?
04:58 OldCoder The post
04:58 OldCoder One moment
04:59 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787
04:59 OldCoder Doing it again to be sure
05:00 VanessaE depends.txt in farming github repo still shows no need for flowers.
05:00 OldCoder Wait
05:01 OldCoder Wait
05:01 * VanessaE waits.
05:01 OldCoder root@ip-10-248-110-223:~# sh ./go
05:01 OldCoder root@ip-10-248-110-223:~# more log1
05:01 OldCoder 05:01:14: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "te
05:01 OldCoder chnic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers".
05:01 OldCoder 05:01:14: ERROR[main]: mod "unifieddyes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers"
05:01 OldCoder .
05:01 OldCoder Down to these two
05:01 VanessaE ok
05:01 VanessaE unified dyes needs flowers to get pigments from
05:01 OldCoder Yes
05:01 VanessaE I don't know offhand what technic uses them for
05:01 OldCoder adding your flowers again
05:01 OldCoder Hold on
05:01 OldCoder Wait please
05:02 VanessaE wait.
05:02 VanessaE make sure you have the *very* latest.
05:02 OldCoder Of which?
05:02 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/flowers/zipball/master
05:02 VanessaE of my flowers.
05:02 OldCoder Getting
05:03 OldCoder I think I had the wrong version of farming
05:03 OldCoder All set now
05:03 OldCoder Come and play if you like
05:03 OldCoder Setting up skyblock
05:03 VanessaE you might have - I think there are two competing mods by that name
05:03 OldCoder Ah!
05:03 VanessaE and--
05:03 OldCoder That would explain it
05:03 VanessaE C55 says he's going to add farming to minetest, which guarantees he'll break something :-)
05:04 OldCoder Huh
05:04 OldCoder Creating third world
05:06 OldCoder Running three worlds now
05:06 OldCoder Preparing web page
05:08 OldCoder
05:08 OldCoder VanessaE, want to try the main world before leaving?
05:08 NakedFury would be interesting if there was a way to connect all three, a sort of multiverse. each world has different rules, mods, playstyles, possibly even world types
05:08 VanessaE sure
05:08 OldCoder NakedFury, I thought of that
05:08 OldCoder Both of you:
05:08 OldCoder Server is develan.com
05:08 OldCoder Port 30000 is git 0.4.3 with lots of mods
05:08 OldCoder Port 30001 is stable 0.4.1 with tuxworld
05:08 OldCoder Port 30002 is git 0.4.3 with skyblock
05:09 OldCoder Have fun
05:09 VanessaE connecting... (to 30000)
05:09 VanessaE downloading media...
05:10 OldCoder Added speed optimizations
05:10 NakedFury 1 world would be the lobby and from there the player as if an avatar would log into the different worlds
05:10 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes
05:11 OldCoder http://pastebin.ca/2207096
05:11 OldCoder Those are the mods except for farming and flowers
05:11 OldCoder Switched to different versions
05:12 OldCoder These worlds will eventually be grief-proof
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05:12 OldCoder VanessaE, I downloaded junglegrass tonight
05:13 khonkhortisan I spawned on a 1
05:17 khonkhortisan cool, footsteps!
05:18 OldCoder
05:18 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
05:18 OldCoder Information ^
05:18 OldCoder
05:19 OldCoder I can run the M13 and Jordach forks too
05:19 khonkhortisan ? the 1 killed me?
05:19 VanessaE footsteps?
05:19 khonkhortisan yeah, the texture that gets added to grass when you walk on it. On oldcoder's skyblock server
05:19 OldCoder cornernote is here
05:20 OldCoder He can answer skyblock questions
05:20 khonkhortisan I can see the lava from where I dug the first 1
05:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I thought the footsteps was obsolete?
05:21 VanessaE is that a new mod?
05:21 khonkhortisan the textures are still around
05:21 VanessaE yes I know
05:21 VanessaE I mean having them actually show up, must be a new mod or something
05:21 khonkhortisan I'm so bad at this
05:22 khonkhortisan aah! my stuff!
05:22 OldCoder Does MT have an icon?
05:22 khonkhortisan yes it does
05:22 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Link?
05:23 OldCoder Or is it just on the C55 page?
05:23 OldCoder I'll add a script to back these worlds up
05:23 OldCoder Found the icon
05:23 khonkhortisan it's the big one on minetest.net, minetest in my games menu has the same icon
05:23 OldCoder Yes
05:23 OldCoder Got it; thanks
05:24 OldCoder Feel free to create; within a day or two the worlds should be griefproof
05:24 khonkhortisan if I die too many times will I have used up all the spawn points?
05:24 khonkhortisan And what's my goal?
05:24 OldCoder khonkhortisan, ask cornernote
05:24 OldCoder Wait
05:25 OldCoder There is a page for this
05:25 khonkhortisan (lag)
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05:25 khonkhortisan I'm going to have to relearn all the recipes
05:26 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=795
05:26 OldCoder Skyblock thread ^
05:26 cornernote sorry, just got here
05:27 OldCoder cornernote, You have a skyblock player
05:27 cornernote let me read history
05:27 OldCoder khonkhortisan
05:27 khonkhortisan I see four 1 nodes, two I've already used, one I'm standing on
05:27 cornernote punch it (quick punch)
05:27 cornernote then it tells you your goals
05:27 cornernote right click it, and it opens up
05:27 cornernote like a chest
05:27 khonkhortisan oh right click!
05:28 cornernote long punch it, and it makes you restart
05:28 khonkhortisan how do I dig a clay lump?
05:28 cornernote eg, if you get stuck and need to start over
05:28 khonkhortisan accidentally starting over counts as losing
05:28 cornernote you need to make clay fron dirt
05:29 NakedFury inside game oldman
05:29 cornernote i should make it not let you restart if you have not used any of your default items
05:29 khonkhortisan oh that says coal lump not clay lump
05:29 cornernote cos i think thats the default action, dig the "1" block
05:30 cornernote coal you make with stone + coal lump
05:30 cornernote it doubles it
05:30 cornernote then you dig it, and double it again
05:30 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Do me a favor and make a screenshot
05:30 OldCoder If time permits
05:30 OldCoder Skyblock
05:30 khonkhortisan screenshot of how I lost?
05:30 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Any good Skyblock scene
05:30 khonkhortisan I can give you a bad scene
05:30 OldCoder :-) Fine
05:33 NakedFury oldcoder unknown block a few paces from you
05:34 OldCoder NakedFury, Oh?
05:34 OldCoder NakedFury, this is raw git
05:34 OldCoder Bound to be a few glitches
05:34 khonkhortisan had to restart the upload
05:34 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8018594950/in/photostream/lightbox/
05:34 khonkhortisan corner note already has a tree
05:35 OldCoder khonkhortisan, thx
05:35 khonkhortisan and a chest
05:35 khonkhortisan he's making me look bad
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05:51 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
05:51 OldCoder Falling asleep. Feel free to share that link.
05:51 OldCoder Zzz
06:00 cy1 welp, so much for that server.
06:00 khonkhortisan hehe I dug everything but the lava and the lag hasn't caught up
06:00 TiredCoder cy1, ?
06:00 khonkhortisan it froze
06:00 TiredCoder Oh?
06:00 TiredCoder Skyblock?
06:00 TiredCoder Main is still running
06:00 khonkhortisan digging jungletree didn't give me the dig_tree achievement
06:00 cy1 Main... what?
06:00 TiredCoder cy1, see this page:
06:01 TiredCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
06:01 cornernote VanessaE, skyblock uses dirt with grass and footsteps
06:01 TiredCoder Three servers
06:01 cornernote whoa
06:01 cornernote sorry, i was scrolled way up
06:01 cornernote :S
06:01 TiredCoder Should I restart server #3?
06:01 khonkhortisan I do that too
06:01 TiredCoder Is it hung?
06:01 cornernote i think it may be
06:01 khonkhortisan I'm still floating under my lava
06:01 TiredCoder We'll need to see if it's a git issue
06:01 cornernote i cant put anything in craft
06:02 cy1 TiredCoder: cannot connect to server
06:02 khonkhortisan and a reconnect doesn't work
06:02 cy1 maybe lava flowing made too much processing?
06:02 khonkhortisan I think it was the special crafting recipes
06:02 TiredCoder Restarted
06:02 TiredCoder I can add autorestart later
06:03 cy1 thankee
06:03 TiredCoder Some sort of watchdog timer
06:03 TiredCoder So you can debug the lockups
06:03 khonkhortisan yuck, falling leaves
06:03 khonkhortisan where's RealBadAngel?
06:04 cy1 ehe I'm a watchdog timer!
06:04 RealBadAngel cannot rejoin
06:04 TiredCoder cy1, Then I will need to give you a way
06:04 khonkhortisan try now
06:04 TiredCoder RealBadAngel, wb
06:04 cornernote but u dont want to auto-restart
06:04 TiredCoder cornernote, we will discuss it i m tired now
06:04 cornernote or ppl will have to keep reconnecting for no reason
06:04 RealBadAngel is 30004 down?
06:04 TiredCoder RealBadAngel, see the linked page
06:04 cornernote kk
06:04 TiredCoder RealBadAngel, it is only on 30000 to 30002 so far
06:04 cornernote u were off to bed 2 hours ago!
06:04 TiredCoder yes
06:04 TiredCoder time to slp
06:04 khonkhortisan Due to a bug, it takes luck to complete SkyBlock.
06:04 RealBadAngel i were logged on skyblock :(
06:04 TiredCoder we will need to fix
06:05 TiredCoder RealBadAngel, hmm?
06:05 RealBadAngel booo
06:05 cornernote khonkhortisan, which bug ?
06:05 * TiredCoder is confuzed
06:05 TiredCoder all will be fixed
06:05 cornernote jungletree ?
06:05 TiredCoder Hey nice sunset
06:05 khonkhortisan yes, jungletree requires luck
06:05 RealBadAngel i played with skyblock, eved planted 2 more trees already
06:05 cornernote i'll fix it now
06:05 TiredCoder RealBadAngel, world is still there
06:06 TiredCoder RealBadAngel, mods *must* be installed in the game for now
06:06 TiredCoder Will figure it out another time
06:06 TiredCoder all three worlds seem to run
06:06 RealBadAngel i gonna play a bit on skyblock
06:06 TiredCoder have fun
06:06 RealBadAngel its fun as hell
06:06 TiredCoder but skyblock locks up
06:06 TiredCoder we will need to fix it
06:06 TiredCoder no provision for autorestart
06:06 TiredCoder yet
06:06 RealBadAngel im goin to work now, so i hope to join later :)
06:06 TiredCoder anybody wants a good world mirrored let me know
06:06 TiredCoder ttyl
06:06 RealBadAngel when got back
06:07 cy1 I suspect that minetest may overload its servers if blocks are not generated, in a sort of endless "generate plz" loop.
06:08 TiredCoder bad
06:08 cornernote bug is fixed in git, jungletree now gives dig_tree reward
06:08 TiredCoder $$$ for me
06:08 TiredCoder cornernote, I will update tomorrow then
06:08 cornernote OldCoder, update it tomorrow, not now
06:08 cornernote go sleep
06:08 cy1 thanks TiredCoder this is p. fun
06:08 TiredCoder I am seeing 90% load
06:08 cornernote go on
06:08 cornernote get
06:08 cornernote =)
06:08 TiredCoder One question
06:08 TiredCoder Should I leave skyblock server running? Is 90% load normal?
06:08 cy1 uh, not normal no
06:09 khonkhortisan I got my achievement after restarting
06:09 cy1 I'll run skyblock locally if I want to continue to screw around.
06:09 cornernote wonder why its spiking
06:09 cy1 khonkhortisan can chat with me here
06:09 TiredCoder It's continuous
06:09 cy1 cornernote: it is a mystery
06:09 TiredCoder I better kill that one for tonight
06:09 TiredCoder $$$
06:09 cornernote ok
06:09 cy1 sleep well
06:10 cy1 while he's gone, come on my server! It's not skyblock, but has some fun things.
06:10 khonkhortisan my screen froze except for the yaw =
06:11 khonkhortisan oh.
06:12 cy1 I'm holding off on restarting since it'll pile in mobs and armor then
06:13 cy1 but I've managed to get it so mobs don't ignore armor, and it ain't crashing derpworld anymore!
06:13 khonkhortisan I have an improved way of making the pyramid where it's climbable, made smaller with stairsplus
06:13 cy1 ooh, neat
06:14 cy1 I don't have xfences yet, sorry.
06:14 khonkhortisan ?
06:14 cornernote cy1 whats your server ?  is there a forum thread ?
06:14 khonkhortisan verge.info.tm 6989
06:14 cy1 cornernote: no, I haven't put it on the forum just IRC
06:14 cornernote what country ?
06:14 khonkhortisan it's not really greif-proof, now is it?
06:15 cy1 Cascadia!
06:15 cy1 khonkhortisan: well, hourly backups.
06:15 cy1 if I start getting griefed I'll just take away default interact
06:15 cy1 then restore a backup
06:16 cy1 or a piece of a backup or w/ev
06:16 khonkhortisan bye-bye great pyramid
06:16 cy1 nooooooook
06:16 cornernote what about the new rollback features ?
06:16 cy1 pfff those suck
06:16 khonkhortisan Should I make the smaller one before deleting the original?
06:16 cy1 cornernote: that's why all the servers have been lagging so much recently
06:17 cy1 khonkhortisan: whatever you do, make it away from that goddamned sponge that makes my framerate cry
06:17 cy1 why sponge, why must you be so beautiful T_T
06:18 cy1 cornernote: any luck?
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06:34 cornernote i got in, but i was on the phone so had to pause
06:34 cornernote then it dropped, reconnecting now
06:34 cornernote i went through your cobble hypercube
06:35 cornernote then under the sea
06:36 cy1 cornernote: <3
06:37 cy1 it's a cobble Menger sponge
06:37 cy1 4-iterations
06:37 cy1 khonkhortisan made it. I filled it w/ water because pretty.
06:37 cy1 not one of my smartest ideas...
06:38 cy1 amazing thing he's done is figure how to make a Menger pyramid! Just out of blocks!
06:42 cy1 ..........ok mental note don't displace water with fire on a wooden structure
06:42 khonkhortisan you burned it?!:)
06:42 cy1 I was trying to make the water go away!
06:43 khonkhortisan Remember the structure?
06:43 cy1 I'll try to recreate.
07:01 cornernote its too laggy =(
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07:22 cornernote i was trying to think of a better way to give initial instructions to skyblock players
07:22 cornernote i was thinking perhaps they should start with the level 1 block in their inventory
07:23 cornernote or an "instructions sign" maybe
07:23 khonkhortisan then when they misplace the 1 and want to move it they lose. That's the same difficulty as moving a filled chest
07:23 cornernote and that sign contains the leaves and stick to make the first sapling
07:24 cornernote what about the sign ?
07:24 cornernote or other ideas
07:24 cornernote im open to any suggestion
07:24 khonkhortisan I tried making a checker out of dirt and clay, and leaves and clay, and it didn't do anything
07:25 cornernote a checker ?
07:25 khonkhortisan yeah like moreblocks, I think
07:25 cornernote thats not in skyblock
07:26 cornernote or am i not following what you are saying ?
07:26 khonkhortisan I was trying different recipes because I hadn't found the sapling yet
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07:50 khonkhortisan Where's a good place to mention recipe conflicts between mods?
07:50 VanessaE on the forum thread for whoseever mod it was that came later.
07:51 VanessaE whoever's
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08:15 cornernote VanessaE, i should do that idea you suggested with the gamewiki and make a page that shows all the recipe conflicts
08:15 cornernote load all the mods i can find in the forums
08:15 VanessaE it would be useful, if you can code it simply enough
08:15 cornernote then make a post with all the conflicts, let the active devs sort it out
08:15 VanessaE (I'd hate to suggest something that would end up being a bitch to code)
08:16 cornernote or post to the mods that are most likley to change them
08:16 VanessaE that's a better idea.
08:17 VanessaE I think I have one or two minor conflicts in homedecor for example, but I don't remember against what :)
08:45 VanessaE bbl
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09:26 Calinou almost finished technic support to misa pack
09:26 Calinou misa pack -- now supporting CPU hogs! :D
09:32 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44270#p44270
09:32 Calinou rofl
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10:00 VanessaE Calinou: any chance of getting quarter-thick slabs? (that is, half the thickness of an existing slab - could be crafted by placing three slabs side-by-side in the grid maybe)
10:00 Calinou meh... not very useful
10:00 Calinou can't imagine any usage for them
10:00 VanessaE tabletops, countertops
10:01 Calinou hmm, ok then :P
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10:09 Calinou done, stairs+ update out
10:09 Calinou done in 8 minutes :D
10:09 VanessaE cool :-)
10:12 VanessaE now let's see how much effort it takes to get redcrab to upgrade his copy :-)
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10:30 cornernote VanessaE, only found 1 conflict in homedecor
10:30 cornernote shingles conflicts with hardwood from building blocks
10:31 VanessaE ah right
10:31 VanessaE what would be a good replacement?
10:31 cornernote a non-single node recipe
10:31 cornernote wood+tree
10:32 cornernote wood tree, tree wood
10:32 VanessaE maybe,
10:32 VanessaE - - -
10:32 VanessaE W S -
10:32 VanessaE S W -
10:32 VanessaE S = Stick, W = Wood
10:32 cornernote yep
10:32 cornernote perfect
10:32 cornernote 2 node recipies are much less likely to conflict
10:33 VanessaE testing the changes...
10:33 cornernote then there is really old mods that conflict...
10:34 cornernote moreblocks and building_blocks
10:34 cornernote brick and moreblocks
10:34 cornernote castle_wall appears to do the same slabs as stairsplus
10:35 cornernote metals seems to be completely replaced by streets, pipeworks, etc
10:35 VanessaE changes pushed.
10:35 cornernote thanks VanessaE
10:36 VanessaE pipeworks' recipes are really kinda temporary
10:36 cornernote no, i mean the nodes replace why you would need metals
10:36 VanessaE ohh
10:36 cornernote the recipies in metals conflict with a lot of other mods
10:36 VanessaE tright
10:37 cornernote so im going to pull it, i think its obsolete
10:37 cornernote moreblocks is Calinou, and its recent
10:38 cornernote conflicts with brick mod - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1631
10:38 cornernote i think i'll pull support for brick mod too
10:38 cornernote seems like there are better mods to replace it now
10:41 VanessaE unified bricks > brick mod :-)
10:45 VanessaE jeez the game is crashy today
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12:11 TiredCoder Back
12:19 cornernote wb
12:36 pskosinski Is here any servers hosteeeeeer? I can see how many resources server is using empty, but no idea how many with players...
12:36 pskosinski And Calinou's server segfaulted my Minetest..
12:38 pskosinski Btw. Sand monster from SimpleMobs mod is deadly dangerous. -.- Can take all hearts. -.- You can kill him with a few hits but also 50 can be not enough. -.-
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12:46 cornernote pskosinski - yes, and if there are 20 of them chasing you its not much fun
12:46 cornernote cos u could be in for 1000 clicks to kill them
12:49 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
12:49 OldCoder Updated
12:49 OldCoder Skyblocks server is running again
12:50 OldCoder Cloned new Skyblocks code from git
12:50 OldCoder cornernote, cy1
12:50 OldCoder Encourage people to try Skyblocks as I need to know if CPU load will kick in
12:51 OldCoder Also feel free to share maps from old or new worlds
12:51 OldCoder As I will keep old servers alive and running
12:51 OldCoder
13:08 cornernote >> This copy of armor includes a NekoGloop patch
13:08 cornernote which patch ?
13:08 cornernote i never saw any patch
13:13 OldCoder cornernote, He made it yesterday. I'll provide you with a copy. Or he can.
13:13 OldCoder It's minor. Back in a bit.
13:13 * OldCoder back soon
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13:48 OldCoder Back
13:50 OldCoder cornernote, I'm using default settings except for the speedup changes you gave me. I'll check to see about the rollback issue.
13:50 OldCoder
13:51 OldCoder Others: Is the consensus that rollback should be disabled to reduce lagging? I'm backing up so maybe it isn't needed
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14:36 Mikeonline hu
14:36 sfan5 hi
14:37 iqualfragile hi
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14:44 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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14:44 Mikeonline PilzAdam!
14:44 PilzAdam sup
14:45 Mikeonline modding stuff ;)
14:45 Mikeonline and hungry
14:45 Mikeonline want eat pilz :D
14:45 PilzAdam :-D
14:45 PilzAdam [16:45] <Mikeonline> modding stuff ;) + [16:45] <Mikeonline> and hungry = food mod?
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14:48 OldCoder PilzAdam, Your mods work fine
14:48 PilzAdam cool
14:48 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
14:48 OldCoder Updated ^
14:49 iqualfragile http://ibash.de/zitat_55755.html
14:49 OldCoder PilzAdam, people like the Papyrus Bed
14:49 iqualfragile yes, they do!
14:49 iqualfragile oldcoder: please use a different backgoundimmage
14:49 Mikeonline no :D
14:49 OldCoder ?
14:49 OldCoder Consensus please :-)
14:49 iqualfragile it pains
14:50 OldCoder iqualfragile, Very well. Link to other good ones
14:50 iqualfragile #000000
14:50 OldCoder Hmm
14:50 OldCoder Maybe translucent water
14:50 OldCoder Barely visible
14:50 OldCoder The site is due for an overhaul soon anyway
14:50 OldCoder Will look into it then
14:52 iqualfragile or just remove the immage alltogether and continue the picture from above (just delete     background: url(water.jpg) repeat; from style.css line 194
14:52 iqualfragile )
14:53 iqualfragile and border-top
14:53 Exio hey PilzAdam, a small/big "feature request", flying mobs :P
14:53 PilzAdam i see no need to add them
14:53 OldCoder iqualfragile, I know how to delete the background and may do so. Thank you. There is a new theme coming in October. I will review at the time.
14:53 Exio hm, k
14:54 OldCoder Busy ATM Trying to reproduce and document all the MT stuff I did in the past 24 hours
14:54 iqualfragile well, i could have guessed that, it looks like you wrote it all on your own, but i was looking at it anyways
14:54 OldCoder iqualfragile, I am grateful
14:54 OldCoder iqualfragile, I mean, I am rebuilding my AWS EC2 virtual machine
14:55 OldCoder The one running the three MT servers now
14:55 OldCoder Need to get all the patches and mods documented
14:55 OldCoder Before I forget
14:56 iqualfragile jup, thats important
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15:03 OldCoder Jordach, hello
15:03 Jordach OldCoder, hello
15:03 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
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15:03 OldCoder Jordach, Your fork can go there too
15:03 OldCoder But you'll need to debug the segfaults
15:04 Jordach kay
15:04 * Jordach is tired
15:05 OldCoder Oh?
15:07 Jordach OldCoder, my coffee energy went two hours ago
15:07 OldCoder k
15:09 Jordach OldCoder, would you like to test my server?
15:09 Jordach (0.4.3)
15:09 OldCoder Hmm?
15:09 OldCoder Explain
15:09 OldCoder You are running a general 0.4.3 server? If so I will test clients against it later on
15:09 Jordach oddly, a minetestserver instance is faster than using singleplayer or advanced
15:09 OldCoder ATM I am rebuilding a MT EC2
15:09 OldCoder k
15:10 Jordach and so connecting using 127.0.0.1 is faster, since the spu is now shared
15:10 Jordach s/spu/cpu
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15:14 Jordach PilzAdam - i found a farming mod glitch
15:15 PilzAdam so?
15:15 Jordach jump on a tiny pumpkin
15:15 Jordach then walk into the next step up pumpkin
15:15 Jordach sound errors happen
15:17 PilzAdam have you a fix?
15:19 Jordach no.
15:19 Jordach its another engine bug
15:22 Jordach does one get points for a 503?
15:31 Jordach OldCoder, can you sacrifice the port 30002
15:32 Jordach i have this nice set of mods - that are used on some servers
15:34 Jordach bacon works! ?!?!?
15:40 OldCoder Hi
15:40 OldCoder Jordach, I can run more servers. What do you need?
15:40 Jordach i have a server of mine that i would like 24/7
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15:41 Jordach (well my local one)
15:41 OldCoder Jordach, What is unique about it? If the mods I can add them to the main server
15:41 Jordach i changed farming to stop the errors
15:41 Jordach maptools is changed
15:41 Jordach and a couple of customs
15:41 OldCoder Can you get the changes merged into masters?
15:41 Jordach no.
15:41 Jordach these are different
15:41 OldCoder Go on; I am interested
15:41 OldCoder Explain
15:42 Jordach these dont exist anywhere else
15:42 OldCoder Is all of this 0.4.3 compatible?
15:42 Jordach yes
15:42 Jordach however i like my world
15:42 OldCoder Which world?
15:42 OldCoder Sounds good so far
15:42 Jordach xbar is new
15:43 OldCoder Jordach, you have prepared a set of mods
15:43 Jordach no
15:44 OldCoder I am confused. Clarify.
15:44 OldCoder You have modified and/or new mods. True or false?
15:44 OldCoder I can have this running quickly. But explain.
15:44 Jordach yes
15:45 Jordach i plan on finishing igneous rocks
15:45 Jordach (i have the generation done, need some kewl ass crafts)
15:46 OldCoder Jordach, very well. Then do this:
15:46 OldCoder Prepare a text file that lists all of the mods involved. Modifications to existing ones. New ones. What you do that is interested. ZIP up a set. Send me the text file and the ZIP.
15:46 OldCoder
15:46 OldCoder The text file is your entry fee. It is the useful part.
15:47 OldCoder *that is interesting
15:53 Jordach OldCoder, im going to pull a youtube video up
15:53 Jordach s/pull/put
15:53 OldCoder No time for videos ATM
15:53 OldCoder But I can chat
16:02 Jordach ANYONE IN HERE wanna do some lets play
16:03 OldCoder ?
16:05 * Jordach eats hula hoops (like potato chips, just in the shape of hula hoops)
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16:07 Jordach rubenwardy, sup
16:09 rubenwardy hi
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16:12 Jordach i have guide that makes the "world and server" side of minetest run a little bit quicker
16:12 Jordach involves .bat files and some tricks
16:12 Jordach but nothing special
16:14 iqualfragile well, tell us
16:14 thexyz .bat files? windows?
16:15 thexyz i have a better guide
16:15 thexyz step 0) remove windows, install some OS
16:20 iqualfragile oh, i must have skipped that
16:21 Jordach thexyz stop trolling
16:21 Mikeonline hm someone knows how to concatenate string+variable in lua?
16:21 thexyz why do you all think that's trolling?
16:21 Jordach you cant
16:21 Jordach [17:21:39] <thexyz> why do you all think that's trolling? : OVER advocation
16:22 Jordach and being unrelated to the operating system
16:22 thexyz Mikeonline: > s = "test"..3
16:22 thexyz > = s
16:22 thexyz test3
16:22 Mikeonline minetest.chat_send_player(placer:get_player_name(), "You can not place nodes here.")
16:22 Jordach ths is for windows users, who think this is slow.
16:22 Mikeonline to i type here "foo"..pos ?
16:22 Mikeonline ah
16:22 thexyz Mikeonline: not pos, but something like pos.x.." "..pos.y.." "..pos.z
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16:23 Mikeonline so message = "foobar"..pos.x.." "..pos.y.." "..pos.z
16:23 Jordach hi Calinou
16:23 Mikeonline and i need to make a variable? or can i put this into the function?
16:23 thexyz Jordach: then why can't you simply write how to do it? without asking whether we need that or not
16:23 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44374#p44374
16:24 Jordach this effectively makes two cpud loads, so that irrlicht cant interfere with "server / map" memory
16:24 OldCoder TheLastProject, Jordach: If you have optimization tricks which are the most important?
16:24 OldCoder Oops
16:25 OldCoder I meant thexyz not TheLastProject
16:25 TheLastProject Don't worry, I'm used to that happening :P
16:25 TheLastProject "the" is a dangerous way to start a nickname :P
16:25 OldCoder Yes
16:25 OldCoder thexyz, hello and here's a link:
16:25 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
16:25 OldCoder Ha
16:25 TheJordach >:D
16:25 * TheJordach considers changing forums name
16:26 Jordach ^_^
16:26 thexyz OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/254
16:26 thexyz haven't tested it though
16:27 Mikeonline thexyz can i put "foo"..var into the chat_send function or do i have to make the parameter a variable first?
16:27 Calinou TheLastProject == TLP == the little pony
16:27 thexyz Mikeonline: why can't you test it before asking? yes, you can
16:27 Calinou hence, don't use "the"
16:27 Calinou 8D
16:27 Jordach thexyz, tried it on ubuntu, does work, even when using fast and fluy
16:27 * TheLastProject meows =^.^=
16:28 Mikeonline i test
16:28 thexyz Ld
16:28 thexyz OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3005
16:28 thexyz fuck my keyboard
16:28 OldCoder Reviewing
16:28 thexyz somebody should make him release that mysql patch
16:29 Calinou BRACE YOURSELVES
16:29 Calinou THEXYZ HAS FOUND ANOTHER SECURITY HOLE
16:29 OldCoder Hmm
16:29 thexyz Calinou: wat?
16:29 Calinou :p
16:30 Jordach Calinou, your humor is "killing" me
16:30 * Calinou kills Jordach so that his humor doesn't kill him again
16:30 Jordach s/his/my
16:30 OldCoder thexyz, it seems like a worthwhile idea
16:30 Jordach mysql is EVIL
16:31 * Jordach hates my email
16:31 Jordach s/my his own
16:31 Jordach s/s/my his own/my/his own
16:32 Jordach sedception
16:32 Mikeonline thexyz: thank you very much, it works fine!
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16:32 rubenwardy (5:15:08 PM) thexyz: step 0) remove windows, install some OS         Some server hosters may be young and so dont have permission to install linux on their computer, or in other cases do not have the knowledge or do not want too
16:33 OldCoder rubenwardy, VM is still possible in some cases
16:35 Calinou "Some server hosters may be young and so dont have permission to install linux on their computer"
16:35 Calinou *laughs*
16:35 rubenwardy ikr
16:35 Calinou step 0) remove windows, install some OS  < did you accidentally some words? :P
16:35 rubenwardy *Some*
16:35 Calinou or just trolling :P
16:35 Calinou OldCoder: VMs are terribly slow
16:35 Calinou as long as you're on a computer with a BIOS, dualboot is safe 95% of the time
16:36 OldCoder Calinou: Yes. mrtux seems to do all right. It's surprising as he as only 512MB RAM.
16:36 Calinou this percentage falls to (1 divided by 95)% with UEFI
16:36 Calinou :>
16:36 thexyz Calinou: UEFI can emulate BIOS
16:36 OldCoder *has
16:36 Calinou thexyz: what about vendor locks?
16:36 Calinou you can't remove them, and there are more and more of them today
16:36 thexyz Calinou: never have seen them
16:36 Jordach lolWindows8
16:36 Calinou Jordach: there are vendor locks with win7 already
16:36 thexyz some securboot shit?
16:36 Calinou some computer assemblers have been known to do that
16:36 Jordach lolMicrosoftBulShit
16:37 Calinou not secureboot, not really
16:37 Jordach lolOEMNonLinuxFans
16:37 Calinou Jordach: buy the same computer more expensive, without an OS
16:37 Jordach Calinou
16:37 Calinou linux is terrible as a main OS btw, if you plan on using proprietary drivers
16:37 Calinou being locked to 50hz isn't fun
16:37 Calinou :>
16:37 Jordach my acer aspire does fine
16:37 Calinou (or to i386..)
16:37 Calinou lol, linux on a laptop
16:37 Calinou HI IM BACKLIGHT
16:37 Calinou I DONT WORK
16:37 Jordach x86 FTW
16:38 Calinou same thing happens with both i386 and amd64
16:38 Calinou i386 is terrible anyway
16:38 Jordach Calinou, i run ubuntu64bit
16:38 Calinou lolubuntu
16:38 Jordach on a pentium4
16:38 Jordach PENTIUM 4
16:38 Calinou I know
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16:38 Jordach my bios has no 64bit support
16:39 Jordach idk why it works
16:39 Calinou typing boot sequences is fun
16:39 Jordach ...it just does
16:41 thexyz Calinou: btw, what planet are you from?
16:41 Calinou earth
16:41 thexyz linux works just fine at my asus u36jc
16:41 thexyz (except that optimus thing)
16:41 Calinou still, we have no decent GPU company as of today
16:42 Calinou nvidia makes drivers with one arm, amd makes drivers while being drunk
16:42 Jordach Calinou. nVidia is fine
16:42 Jordach ive had not troubles with Linux or Windows
16:42 Jordach s/not/no
16:42 Calinou yay 50hz
16:42 thexyz Jordach: no, fuck them
16:42 Calinou point is: amd isn't better
16:42 Calinou open drivers are slow as always
16:42 thexyz fuck amd too
16:43 Calinou proprietary ones suck
16:43 Jordach thexyz, you need to learn that you must pay sometimes
16:43 thexyz Jordach: what?
16:43 Jordach one does not simply get food for free
16:43 Jordach nor does one get seeds for free
16:43 Jordach everything has a cost.
16:43 thexyz tell me now, where can i buy decent nvidia drivers for linux?
16:43 Jordach its on the disc
16:43 Calinou they are the same
16:44 Calinou since when there are linux drivers on a disk?
16:44 Calinou and manufacturer-provided drivers break everything
16:44 Jordach Calinou, my wireless dongle has them
16:44 Calinou Jordach: have fun updating X
16:44 Jordach (my upstairs tower)
16:44 Jordach Calinou, i had to compile them with make install
16:45 Jordach updating drivers are usually bullshit, they generally break everything
16:45 Calinou how can you compile proprietary stuff? tell me your secret
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16:45 Jordach Calinou, its a usb dongle with some driver, they have no install for linux since .rpm, .deb, .bullshit
16:46 Jordach so make install does this fine
16:46 Calinou people need to stop trolling about package management; don't like it, use winblows then, it has no package management
16:46 Calinou make install: "I CAN HAS SUDO"
16:46 Calinou :|
16:47 Jordach its funny really, if the ethernet port is fucked, and gcc is not installed, and the built in driver fails, then you are fucked
16:47 thexyz Jordach: what's that dongle's name?
16:47 Jordach thexyz, something from eBay
16:47 thexyz Jordach: no, all you need is to boot from livecd/livedvd and fix it
16:47 Jordach no clue what make though
16:48 Jordach thexyz, UPDATE FOR MYSQL http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44389#p44389
16:50 thexyz Jordach: yep, looking at it..
16:50 Jordach ^ one happy troll
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16:55 Jordach ive learned that it is possible to live by foss rules and use ms / apple items
16:55 Calinou haha, no
16:57 Jordach Calinou, FOSS for office, images, music, but for anything else, such as document scanning, taking photos, usb gamepads, and the like all are non free
16:57 Calinou I know
16:57 Calinou marktraceur begs to differ with his FOSS-zealot-ready music player
16:57 Calinou :>
17:00 Jordach the problem to FOSS is the hardware, and output devices
17:00 Jordach even hdds are non free
17:01 Jordach you wanna be FOSS - have no computer
17:07 Calinou you wanna be FOSS - don't leave
17:08 Calinou FOSS assumes patent-free
17:08 Calinou live*
17:09 thexyz nobody wanna be foss
17:09 thexyz except some crazy guys
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17:10 thexyz oh, btw, that wieszak's patch works just fine
17:16 * Calinou got an idea
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17:17 Calinou why not create a fork of minetest where several people can commit/pull stuff in (eg. thexyz, vanessae, jordach)?
17:17 Calinou mostly for fun, for people who want more stuff in game :p
17:17 thexyz Calinou: what stuff do you need in engine?
17:17 Calinou not much; this would allow fixes to be pulled in more early
17:17 thexyz and, btw, c55 remains the only who commits engine code
17:17 Calinou such as apples in map generation
17:17 Calinou thexyz: I said a fork
17:18 thexyz also, personally i'm too lazy to do it
17:18 thexyz see what happened with BP
17:18 Calinou not the same thing, just don't let death dealer touch it
17:18 Calinou :p
17:19 Jordach [18:17:56] <Calinou> such as apples in map generation - i fixed that
17:19 Calinou yes, but it's not in upstream
17:20 Jordach (in fact, realisticly, apples generate randomly, not like how it used to be with patches over a area)
17:25 Jordach 181.fm has some nice stuff
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17:25 thexyz Jordach: http://www.linux.fm/
17:27 khonkhortisan oops my lava turned to stone in skyblock
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17:29 Jordach http://soundcloud.com/jordach/hardcore-metal-mario
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17:29 T_A_N_K good day
17:30 Jordach good day sir
17:30 NekoGloop redcrab is down?
17:30 Jordach NekoGloop, no clue
17:30 rubenwardy|brb yeah, it says "client disconnected"
17:30 * Jordach is listening to john cougar
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17:31 OldCoder NekoGloop, hi: http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
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17:31 Jordach OldCoder, gimme five mins to finish off
17:31 NekoGloop xfences is by thexyz
17:31 NekoGloop dont list it as my mod
17:31 OldCoder Already changed
17:31 OldCoder Which one do you mean?
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17:32 OldCoder NekoGloop, armor? He merged your patch and I'll edit the page shortly
17:33 * Jordach has journey - dont stop beliving on
17:35 NekoGloop also, papyrus_bed is ragnarok's mod, not pilzadam's mod
17:35 OldCoder I  know
17:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, already edited in my copy and will update page soon
17:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am rebuilding my AWS EC2 from scratch ATM and documenting everything
17:35 Jordach REDCRABS SERVER http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44402#p44402
17:35 Jordach its upto something
17:35 Jordach dunno what, but the perm "buckets" seems like so
17:38 NekoGloop damn node_ownership
17:38 NekoGloop that mod needs to burn in hell
17:38 redcrab Yep I introduce new perm ... "bucket" to be able to drop bucket content on unprotected area ... without this permission you still can drop bucket content on your allowed areas
17:38 NekoGloop redcrab: what i just said.
17:39 Jordach redcrab, can you format the pixel art server?
17:39 redcrab format ?
17:39 Jordach turn it into a free public server
17:39 Jordach (kray.di.fy should be, but..)
17:39 redcrab to make it same as 30401 ?
17:39 Jordach without the node owner
17:39 redcrab or same as the 0.3.1 chaos server :)
17:39 Jordach i also have a list of mods you might want
17:40 NekoGloop goddammit
17:40 NekoGloop half of my town is supposedly owned by kinggorilla
17:43 T_A_N_K i need help fixing all these issues in minetest
17:44 T_A_N_K i'm about to make a video about it, there are so many issues i'm going to bring up >.<
17:46 NekoGloop redcrab, fix this issue with the damn node_ownership
17:48 khonkhortisan Is there any way to build down in skyblock?
17:50 T_A_N_K yes
17:50 T_A_N_K water
17:50 redcrab NekoGloop : What issue ?
17:50 NekoGloop the fact half my land is supposedly owned by kinggorilla
17:51 OldCoder I will be shutting down my servers to move them shortly
17:51 Calinou kinggorilla is a griefer
17:51 Calinou <redcrab> Yep I introduce new perm ... "bucket" to be able to drop bucket content on unprotected area ... without this permission you still can drop bucket content on your allowed areas
17:51 Calinou this should go into default game (perhaps "no_bucket" for less confusion)
17:51 Calinou :P
17:52 redcrab Is not a issue of node protection ... it is an administrative issue ... kinggorilla requested an area that was accepted .. I may search and try to remove the requested protected area
17:52 * Calinou almost finished technic mod support in misa pack
17:54 redcrab NekoGloop : I ve remove a owned kinggorilla protected area ... can you check if it is ok now ?
17:54 NekoGloop oh sure
17:55 NekoGloop after i run across half the map.
17:55 redcrab I did it because I trust in Calinou warning .. ;)
17:55 T_A_N_K http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cqLWe3ta
17:55 Calinou I banned him (and his alt account f4ceride) on my server
17:55 Calinou Morrolan: since when you come in this channel? :P
17:55 Calinou btw: don't use away nicks
17:56 Morrolan Sod off.
17:56 Morrolan And since, err, not too long, but more than a few days.
17:56 Calinou k
17:56 khonkhortisan What do I do after level 10 in skyblock?
17:57 Calinou say "OMG, I DID IT, IM THE 500TH GUY TO HAVE DONE THIS"
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17:57 Calinou this will offer you access to level 11
17:57 OldCoder Octupus, Hello. New servers are running.
17:57 khonkhortisan Well I'm only level 9 so far
17:57 Octupus Hell
17:57 Octupus Hello
17:57 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Are you on my Skyblocks server?
17:57 khonkhortisan yes
17:57 khonkhortisan and doing well
17:57 OldCoder khonkhortisan, k
17:57 thexyz wat? levels?
17:58 khonkhortisan I don't know where to get any more coal yet
17:58 * thexyz crawls out his cave
17:58 Jordach khonkhortisan, smelt a tree
17:58 Jordach that makes coal
17:59 Jordach (if that works
17:59 Jordach redcrab, you here?
18:00 Jordach OldCoder http://ompldr.org/vZm1kMg/mods.zip
18:00 Jordach my pack of mods
18:00 OldCoder Jordach, O.K. I will try that shortly
18:01 OldCoder Jordach, Basically I just install those and create a new default world. Is that right?
18:01 Jordach yes
18:01 OldCoder Jordach, Did you include a text file?
18:01 Jordach i'll hold admin - same for you
18:01 OldCoder Jordach, Paste me some notes about all of this
18:01 Jordach theres a readme in there
18:01 OldCoder Jordach, all right. I am rebuilding my EC2. The new one will include this.
18:01 Jordach thanks
18:01 OldCoder khonkhortisan, I will be shutting down my servers in a little while to move to a new EC2
18:02 * Jordach has Queen playing
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18:03 Octupus Oldcoder,i wanna join a server
18:03 OldCoder You can choose from four of mine
18:03 OldCoder It will take about an hour to finish them
18:04 Octupus ok
18:04 OldCoder I am running four different worlds
18:04 Octupus cool
18:04 * Jordach wishes for port 80085
18:05 * Octupus is trying to drown a fish
18:05 Jordach lol
18:05 Octupus :)
18:06 PilzAdam gtg
18:06 PilzAdam bye
18:06 Jordach ^ me does not trust that pilzadam
18:06 NekoGloop so the purpose of redcrab's server is to irritate people with node_ownership?
18:06 Calinou Jordach: ports are between 1 and 65535 :p
18:06 Calinou too bad
18:07 Calinou NekoGloop: yep :)
18:07 Calinou steve jobs' server :P
18:07 Jordach thats why pixel art will have a nice fresh world
18:07 Octupus jordach im going onto pixel art server
18:08 Jordach where everyone can freely build, Octupus, i  no longer work there
18:08 Jordach (no one ever went there)
18:08 Octupus can i have it
18:08 Calinou redcrab: make pixel art a chaos server, griefing allowed, pvp and such :p
18:08 Calinou with protection blocks which can be crafted, use glomie's mod
18:09 Calinou and with bones mod
18:09 Jordach Calinou, id like that
18:09 Jordach flatten it completely
18:10 Jordach and restart fresh
18:10 Octupus jordach can u start up your server
18:10 rubenwardy Mod Idea: Shared Locked Chests.   cornernote_ would be the best bet for it
18:10 Jordach why
18:10 Octupus i want to play on it :)
18:10 Calinou rubenwardy: +1
18:10 Calinou with a GUI to add people
18:11 Jordach minetest.zapto.org : 30000
18:11 Calinou let's pwn minecraft (bukkit plugins) by having serverside GUIs
18:11 Octupus thanks
18:11 redcrab Calinou, Jordach : oki to a whole reset without backup of current ...
18:11 Calinou no backup? are you sure?
18:11 Jordach redcrab, KEEP THE MAP
18:11 redcrab too late ...
18:11 Octupus thanks u
18:11 redcrab no ... it's a joke :p
18:12 T_A_N_K idea: worldmod loader - A file which executes a modloader.lua file in the world directory which loads up all the mods for that world, this could be useful for skyblock
18:12 T_A_N_K each world could have it's own set of mods, then just put it up for download, have people get worldmod loader, and presto, no more dependancy issues
18:14 OldCoder khonkhortisan and others: Could anybody playing Skyblock or other servers of mine exit for a minute or two?
18:14 OldCoder Getting ready to transfer the data
18:14 * khonkhortisan isn't on it
18:15 OldCoder k
18:15 khonkhortisan I expected to be able to climb down the waterfall to land but there was nothing there
18:15 OldCoder Mention it to cornernote
18:16 khonkhortisan I thought there was at least some mapgen but it was completely disabled. It's supposed to be that way
18:16 T_A_N_K xD
18:17 T_A_N_K i was mining for diamonds yesterday, and i thought "After i run out of torches, i'm goin to get off" well my computer must have read my mind because when i placed down my last torch my computer froze
18:18 Jordach T_A_N_K, what software are we going to use for the lets play?
18:18 Jordach (chat wise)
18:18 T_A_N_K probably mumble
18:18 * Jordach has that
18:21 Jordach home sweet home http://i.imgur.com/P9Wpi.png
18:24 khonkhortisan redcrab is protocol 6? But it was just 13!
18:24 khonkhortisan oh. wrong port.
18:24 redcrab Jordach : oki ... fresh new map ... Jordach still the owner of 30402 ,, interact by default.. same mods as 30401...
18:25 Jordach khonkhortisan, thats the old game
18:25 khonkhortisan my game crashed and I had to type in the server again
18:28 redcrab protocol 6 I guess in on port 30000  .. port 30401 and 30402 used last protocol (13 i guess)
18:28 Jordach redcrab, thanks
18:28 Calinou misa pack updated now with technic and improved mesecons support
18:28 Calinou :>
18:28 Calinou T_A_N_K: worldpath/worldmods :>
18:28 Calinou see my "maze" map
18:29 Calinou it has maptools in the world folder, in worldmods
18:29 T_A_N_K nice! but you should make that an official mod
18:29 Calinou redcrab: what about making an "hardcore pvp" server? with bones mod :P and no node_ownership, just protect mod
18:29 Calinou T_A_N_K: maptools? ask celeron55 and see :
18:29 Calinou :>
18:29 Calinou going to go now... bye :)
18:30 Calinou misa pack has... 1,531 textures now O_o
18:30 Jordach my pack has almost 400
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18:48 OldCoder
18:48 OldCoder All set
18:49 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
18:49 OldCoder Updated and moved to a new EC2
18:49 OldCoder Jordach, I'll add your world next
18:49 OldCoder cornernote_, if you are awake... Is your building still in the world?
18:49 OldCoder I can't find it
18:51 OldCoder Hmm
18:51 OldCoder Netsplit
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18:53 OldCoder frogcrush, wb
18:54 mika__ neko, take it as an expansion to your place, pay him some wood
18:55 NakedFury trying to join the skyblock world and it wont let me
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19:04 * VanessaE peeks in
19:04 OldCoder Octupus, VanessaE wb
19:04 VanessaE hi all.
19:04 OldCoder VanessaE, 4 servers now
19:04 VanessaE so I read.  cool,.
19:04 Octupus Heelo
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19:05 OldCoder Octupus, you can try any of these:
19:05 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
19:05 OldCoder I am adding a Jordach world now
19:05 NakedFury oldcoder cant connect to skyblock
19:05 Octupus kay :)
19:05 OldCoder VanessaE, any chance you can tell me if port 30000 is the same as before?
19:05 OldCoder NakedFury, checking now thanks
19:05 OldCoder This is a rebuilt setup
19:05 VanessaE what was the address?>
19:05 OldCoder There may be glitches
19:05 OldCoder Hold on
19:05 khonkhortisan develan.com 30002
19:06 VanessaE thanks khonkhortisan
19:06 OldCoder That is for Skyblock
19:06 khonkhortisan I keep a text file of the servers I go on, just five so far and too many to keep track of
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19:06 NakedFury may I ask what the numbered block is for?
19:06 OldCoder NakedFury, talk to cornernote
19:06 VanessaE checking the one on port 30000.
19:06 OldCoder It is a fun game
19:06 OldCoder VanessaE, tell me if this is the same world
19:06 OldCoder NakedFury, Skyblock is there
19:06 VanessaE NakedFury: I think that starts the next "level".
19:07 khonkhortisan don't dig the [1]
19:07 VanessaE (dig it to advance I think)
19:07 VanessaE no?
19:07 khonkhortisan no, it tracks everything. Digging restarts your game
19:07 * khonkhortisan got to level 9
19:07 VanessaE ah
19:08 VanessaE OldCoder: 30000 looks the same to me, at least from where I was standing when I signed off.  Seems a bit laggy though
19:09 NakedFury ok the leafs are only dropping more leafs and not saplings
19:09 Octupus i join the server codz
19:10 VanessaE you have to craft saplings don't you?
19:10 VanessaE in skyblock I mean
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19:10 VanessaE oh, here comes trouble...
19:10 VanessaE ;)
19:10 Octupus XD
19:10 Octupus hi neko
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19:10 Octupus Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
19:10 T_A_N_K_ joined #minetest
19:11 Octupus hmmmmmmmmmm
19:11 Octupus :D
19:11 NekoGloop so redcrab's server exists to make people incredibly pissed off at each other
19:11 NekoGloop seems legit
19:11 VanessaE NekoGloop: not at all, it works well for me
19:11 VanessaE it's just that the map is so damn old that most of the "good" land is taken
19:11 NekoGloop you havent had your land stolen
19:12 VanessaE I thought I read that redcrab fixed that?
19:12 NekoGloop kinggorilla was an ass about it though
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19:13 VanessaE he's a griefer I guess, so I read elsewhere.
19:13 NekoGloop well fuck him then
19:13 OldCoder Jordach world is at port 30003
19:13 VanessaE naturally such people are anti-social :-)
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19:13 NekoGloop he can grief my structures all he wants
19:13 OldCoder joined #minetest
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19:14 NekoGloop after all, he now owns them, and all my items
19:14 saddy joined #minetest
19:14 NekoGloop since i'm gonna play singleplayer now
19:14 VanessaE bug redcrab to fix it
19:14 NekoGloop redcrab can fuck himself as well
19:14 VanessaE hey now
19:14 FreeFull VanessaE: You should have taken that island before I did
19:15 VanessaE FreeFull: what, that tall one across the lake?  didn't want it
19:15 FreeFull The one that's half desert half green
19:15 FreeFull With the wool house
19:15 VanessaE half desert half green...  now I have to go look. :-)
19:16 FreeFull Oh that's right, I haven't finished the wool house yet
19:19 VanessaE NekoGloop: kinggorilla is vacating the area he took
19:19 VanessaE FreeFull: I don't even see it from here..
19:19 NekoGloop i dont give a shit
19:19 VanessaE well *I* do :-)
19:20 Basstard` Am I here yet?
19:20 Jordach OldCoder ADMIN ME
19:20 Octupus XD
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, O.K.
19:20 Octupus he's doing something
19:20 FreeFull VanessaE: Come over to where I am
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, Is your world working
19:20 Jordach logged in right now
19:20 Octupus XD
19:20 Jordach yes
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, Port 30003 is you
19:20 Jordach 30003
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, Hold on
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, You are in line
19:20 OldCoder Making an Octoworld now
19:21 Octupus :D
19:21 NekoGloop OldCoder: skyblock died?
19:21 Basstard` Filled with tentacle erotica?
19:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, checking
19:21 Jordach Basstard` - NO. ESP. NO,
19:21 FreeFull VanessaE: The place with the letters FF on the mapp
19:21 FreeFull map*
19:21 Jordach JUST, NO.
19:21 Basstard` Haha
19:22 Jordach OldCoder, the server seems laggy
19:22 OldCoder Jordach, Yes
19:22 OldCoder Jordach, need to figure out what can be fixed
19:22 OldCoder NekoGloop, om
19:23 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is running. Lockup of some kind?
19:23 OldCoder Restarting
19:23 Jordach turn down the amount of running mods on other servers
19:23 OldCoder Jordach, explain
19:23 Jordach something seems to be running wild
19:23 Jordach my connection time is 0.2 seconds
19:23 OldCoder Wait
19:23 OldCoder Reviewing CPU load
19:24 OldCoder Maybe I will speed this up
19:24 OldCoder Hold on
19:24 OldCoder Anybody know what the next class up costs for EC2?
19:24 Jordach ask redcrab
19:24 VanessaE FreeFull: I can't even find you on the map at all
19:24 VanessaE how far out are you?
19:24 mika__ nekogloop, vanessaE, that kinggorilla killed me several times, then he asks people to say what they think about his house but if they walk in without permission he kills them, happened to me too
19:24 OldCoder I am going to bump this up
19:24 OldCoder NekoGloop, wait
19:24 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/ufm5O.png
19:24 Jordach VanessaE, must be the invisible player bug
19:25 OldCoder Skyblock
19:25 Jordach yes thexyz
19:25 OldCoder Is killing the server
19:25 mika__ i would say his kill count is in 20
19:25 OldCoder Folks I can't run Skyblock until we nail it down
19:25 OldCoder Goes to 90% CPU usage
19:26 FreeFull VanessaE: I'm at -777.7, 36.5, -343.9 right now
19:26 Jordach possibly the level checker
19:26 Jordach and the mapgen
19:26 OldCoder I'm going to upgrade my EC2 account
19:26 OldCoder Hold on
19:26 thexyz here http://pastebin.com/FRNBbEZK
19:26 thexyz and, btw, i've never used blender before
19:26 NakedFury what is ec2?
19:26 thexyz so i don't know whether it works right or not
19:27 Smoki joined #minetest
19:27 OldCoder NakedFury, I am running an Amazon Web Servers EC2 instance
19:27 OldCoder I will try upgrading the account now
19:27 Smoki Hi all :)
19:28 OldCoder Smoki, Hello
19:28 thexyz i don't understand those cloud hostings =(
19:28 thexyz they cost more than dedicated ones
19:28 OldCoder thexyz, I am learning slowly
19:28 OldCoder thexyz, This one is free
19:28 thexyz why everybody loves it?
19:28 OldCoder Sort of
19:28 thexyz oh
19:28 Smoki So VanessaE, some help ? :)
19:28 OldCoder Free is good
19:29 Jordach wait
19:29 Jordach there is a free amazon ec2>#
19:29 OldCoder That is what this is
19:29 OldCoder Sort of
19:29 OldCoder Not really free
19:29 VanessaE Smoki: I use it like this:
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19:29 VanessaE local perlin = minetest.env:get_perlin(SEED, 3, 0.5, 150 )
19:29 VanessaE then,
19:30 VanessaE local noise = perlin:get2d({x=p_top.x, y=p_top.z})
19:30 VanessaE that second line gets the noise value at the given coordinates.
19:30 VanessaE I don't remember exactly what the values passed to get_perlin do, I got that info from splizard.
19:30 FreeFull VanessaE: Not going to check it out?
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19:30 VanessaE freefull: later, I don't have time now.
19:30 Smoki ok, that i figured out of examples, but need some more detailed (and practical) description of parameters in get_perlin
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19:31 Octupus timed out srry
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19:31 Octupus Codz u found my file yet
19:31 VanessaE Smoki: the rest you'll have to check the API, I gottaq run
19:31 VanessaE bbl
19:31 Octupus coder
19:31 Octupus u found my file
19:31 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
19:31 OldCoder Octupus, Yes
19:31 Octupus :D
19:31 OldCoder Octupus, trying to speed up servers first
19:31 Octupus ok
19:31 OldCoder So your world will run
19:31 Octupus YAY
19:31 Smoki ok, anyone else willing to help with my question ? :)
19:31 Jordach OldCoder, time now is about 0.17 seconds
19:32 OldCoder Jordach, Working
19:32 OldCoder Wait please
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19:33 OldCoder Shutting down to restart at higher speed
19:33 Octupus i was thinking of a mod
19:33 OldCoder ?
19:34 Octupus readable stories mod
19:34 OldCoder ?
19:34 Octupus in mt
19:35 NakedFury like in the myst series?
19:35 NakedFury each book is a world?
19:35 Octupus ?
19:35 Octupus maybe
19:35 Jordach unrelated: landmines real appearance https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/4/4d/HitlerPikachu.png
19:36 NakedFury scary pikachu
19:36 pskosinski Someone reminds me of O Fortune, all the time.
19:36 Octupus :D
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19:36 Jordach we should hold a running joke and say heil to landmine (and not use hail)
19:37 Octupus my fav pokemon is blastoide
19:37 * Jordach waits for OldCoder
19:37 OldCoder Jordach, I am working on the pricing
19:37 OldCoder Jordach, This is going to cost me $$$
19:37 Octupus $$$$$$
19:37 Octupus buddy
19:37 Jordach $$$ = swearing
19:38 Octupus i once bought a candy for 25 cents and it was horrible
19:38 OldCoder $$$ = cash
19:38 OldCoder Money, moola
19:38 OldCoder Expensivo
19:39 OldCoder Rebooting now
19:39 Octupus dinero
19:39 OldCoder Yes
19:39 pskosinski http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blastoise_(Pokémon) Abilities: Torrent --  Woot?
19:39 FreeFull Glass panes are a cool building material if you use them creatively
19:40 FreeFull Whoa whoa whoa, redcrab's server has glass slabs now?
19:40 Octupus servers back up
19:40 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/vyhJi.jpg
19:42 NekoGloop joined #minetest
19:42 NekoGloop webchat went total derp??
19:43 OldCoder Try my servers now
19:43 OldCoder I am paying $$$ for them
19:43 OldCoder Maybe faster
19:43 T_A_N_K_ i'm creating a sound pack, how does this sound? https://www.dropbox.com/s/23jql5z8rd4ndt0/soundpack.zip
19:44 T_A_N_K_ _so far_
19:44 NekoGloop XD i have two lavas now XD
19:45 Jordach OldCoder, address please#
19:45 OldCoder Jordach, you are at
19:45 OldCoder Server develan.com Port 30002
19:45 octupus joined #minetest
19:45 OldCoder octupus, wb
19:45 octupus hi
19:45 octupus again
19:45 octupus i spelt my name wrong
19:45 NekoGloop brb
19:45 OldCoder working on your world now
19:45 octupus yay
19:46 NekoGloop joined #minetest
19:46 octupus just go into
19:46 OldCoder octupus, What is special in this tree?
19:46 octupus ?
19:46 octupus which tree
19:46 OldCoder Sorry
19:46 OldCoder In this copy of the game
19:46 Octupus nothing
19:46 OldCoder What are the unique parts?
19:46 Octupus nothing
19:46 OldCoder What am I preparing to install?
19:46 Octupus u already have mesecons on the server so
19:46 NekoGloop Jordach: what, no skyblock for you?
19:47 Octupus nothing
19:47 OldCoder Octupus, is it the world that I should add for you?
19:47 Octupus yes
19:47 Octupus please
19:47 OldCoder Ah!
19:47 OldCoder O.K.
19:47 Octupus idk remember the spawn coors
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19:47 Octupus its in the config thugh
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19:48 OldCoder Octupus, so... you basically want the world I see here.
19:48 OldCoder Not much else is needed?
19:48 Octupus yes
19:48 Octupus no
19:48 OldCoder All right
19:48 OldCoder Good
19:48 OldCoder Wait
19:48 Uberi yesno?
19:48 OldCoder noyes
19:49 Uberi I agree completely, OldCoder
19:49 OldCoder Others: Tell me if my servers are fast now
19:49 Octupus yes
19:49 OldCoder k
19:49 OldCoder Working
19:49 Octupus its just the world
19:49 OldCoder Yes
19:49 OldCoder Wait
19:49 OldCoder It is coming
19:49 Octupus ok
19:50 NakedFury oldcoder maybe running lava is making the skyblock lag or load too much cpu?
19:50 OldCoder Is it fast now?
19:50 Octupus the server is fast
19:50 OldCoder NakedFury, ^ ?
19:50 NakedFury you said something about 90 cpu load or something
19:50 OldCoder NakedFury, how fast is Skyblock now?
19:50 OldCoder Yes
19:51 OldCoder But I updated my account
19:51 OldCoder $$$
19:51 OldCoder ^ Money
19:51 OldCoder ^ Paying them cash
19:51 OldCoder So now maybe it is fast
19:51 Octupus to me its fast
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19:51 Octupus no lag
19:51 Octupus rapido
19:51 Octupus :D
19:51 OldCoder k
19:51 OldCoder Wait
19:51 OldCoder Patience is a Virtue
19:52 Uberi did someone say "non-laggy server"? :P
19:52 OldCoder Yes
19:52 OldCoder Maybe
19:52 OldCoder Try it
19:52 Octupus maybe
19:52 Uberi host + port?
19:52 OldCoder Wait
19:52 OldCoder New webpage coming
19:52 OldCoder 10 minutes please
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19:54 OldCoder Octupus, does your world have cliffs?
19:55 Octupus no
19:55 OldCoder Not sure it is right
19:55 OldCoder Wait a minute
19:55 OldCoder It's your world
19:55 OldCoder Hold on
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19:57 OldCoder New webpage shortly
19:57 OldCoder Muadtralk, hello. News.
19:58 Octupus ok
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19:59 OldCoder
19:59 OldCoder Press Reload on this page:
19:59 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
19:59 OldCoder I am now running 5 servers
19:59 OldCoder Let me know how well they perform
19:59 OldCoder
19:59 OldCoder Octupus check the one at port 30004. That should be your world.
19:59 OldCoder
19:59 Octupus ok
20:00 Uberi OldCoder: btw check the paragraph at the top, it says you're running four but there are 5 links
20:00 OldCoder I know
20:00 OldCoder Noticed that as I was uploading
20:00 OldCoder Didn't want to keep Jordach and Octupus waiting
20:00 OldCoder Muadtralk, see that page
20:00 OldCoder I wonder how many of these I can run
20:01 Octupus i got invalid password coder
20:01 OldCoder There is no password needed
20:01 OldCoder Yet
20:01 Octupus oh
20:01 Uberi OldCoder: which mesecons version? GH latest?
20:01 OldCoder These are open. I will need to tighten that up
20:01 OldCoder Latest
20:01 Uberi cool
20:01 OldCoder Except for Jordach world. I am using his set
20:02 OldCoder Uberi, fixed the typo
20:02 OldCoder Octupus, check your world. Is it correct?
20:02 Uberi excellent
20:02 Octupus wait
20:02 OldCoder Jordach, I need to figure out opping and security etc.
20:02 Octupus u have to change something in your config
20:02 OldCoder That is fine
20:03 OldCoder One step at a time
20:03 Octupus for opping purposes
20:03 OldCoder Yes
20:03 Octupus config
20:03 OldCoder Right now I am trapped in a cave in your world
20:03 Octupus lol
20:03 Octupus im coming
20:03 OldCoder Yes; I see you
20:04 Jordach OldCoder, i need to go to bed now
20:04 OldCoder Jordach, good night
20:04 OldCoder If you want your world fine tuned
20:04 OldCoder It will be fine
20:05 Mikeonline minetest.env:get_player_by_name does not work if the player is not logged in.
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20:05 Mikeonline is there a bett function which works if player is not logged in to?
20:05 Mikeonline +o
20:05 Uberi Mikeonline: check if it returns nil?
20:06 OldCoder I'm giving myself $^$^&$ fly
20:06 OldCoder Tired of being stuck
20:06 Mikeonline it returns nil if player is not online
20:06 Mikeonline otherwise it works
20:06 Mikeonline @uberi
20:06 Uberi Mikeonline: so you want the name of a player ref that's offline?
20:06 Mikeonline yes
20:07 Mikeonline offline OR online
20:07 Mikeonline both
20:07 Uberi how are you getting this player ref if the player is offline?
20:07 Mikeonline local player = minetest.env:get_player_by_name(ownername) < this works only for online ones
20:07 Mikeonline i dont know why the author of node_ownership did this
20:07 Mikeonline it seems it would be enough to take ownername without function pass
20:08 Uberi Mikeonline: oh you can't get a player ref if the player isn't on the server
20:08 Uberi Mikeonline: and it's a part of minetest itself, not node_ownership
20:09 Mikeonline yes
20:09 Mikeonline it seems like the function is not necessary there
20:09 Mikeonline i just could use the parsed username
20:09 Mikeonline and it would work fine too i think
20:10 Mikeonline but the programmer has had a thought of doing so..
20:10 Mikeonline i doubt?
20:10 Uberi parsed username?
20:10 Mikeonline from /set_owner Uberi 123
20:10 Uberi oh that doesn't obtain a player ref
20:10 Uberi that just stores the username
20:11 Mikeonline you know node ownership mod?
20:11 Uberi yes
20:11 OldCoder These worlds seem to be working. Others feel free to try them.
20:11 Mikeonline then i explain the problem:
20:11 Smoki i think author of nodeship_owner wants to check if player name is valid one
20:11 * OldCoder is on a short break
20:11 Mikeonline Smoki: yes thats maybe..
20:11 Uberi OldCoder: I noticed some unknown items scattered across the map
20:11 Mikeonline so i should remove this check and claim name is valid?
20:11 OldCoder Uberi, Yes
20:11 Smoki but yes it is some disadvetage that it works onbly for online players.
20:11 Mikeonline or is there another possibility
20:11 Uberi there's one in my inventory, in fact
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20:12 NekoGloop OldCoder: is skyblock not advancing my level?
20:12 OldCoder Uberi, That is git MT 0.4.3 from today. Bleeding edge sources.
20:12 Uberi Mikeonline: remove what check?
20:12 Uberi OldCoder: I see
20:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, cornernote will be supporting Skyblock
20:12 Smoki maybe you can try to get world path add /players and check if there is file called like players name ?
20:12 Mikeonline the check currently works for an online player only
20:12 Uberi but now you have me curious as to what they are :P
20:12 Mikeonline i just want to check if its a valid player
20:12 OldCoder Uberi, if the mod authors will work with me we'll nail down all the pieces.
20:12 OldCoder Uberi, I have bleeding edge git for mods as well as MT
20:13 OldCoder So there are bound to be glitches. But the worlds all seem fast enough now.
20:13 OldCoder I can probably host a dozen.
20:13 Mikeonline smoki: yes that would be the big solution
20:13 * OldCoder is on a short break
20:13 Uberi Mikeonline: there is no way of retrieving a list of all players, as far as I know, unless you parse the player files themselves
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20:14 Smoki Mikeonline but you must consider dangers of constructing file path from string passed to you by gods knows who
20:15 VanessaE back.
20:15 Uberi o/ VanessaE
20:15 VanessaE hi hi
20:15 Mikeonline hm hm
20:15 Smoki so maybe better get listing of directory with players and search your name there
20:15 Mikeonline so its better to let it in
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20:16 Uberi quick suggestion before I forget: random() for ucScript in microcontrollers, returns random boolean value
20:16 Uberi it is unnecessarily difficult to make PRNGs in Mesecons with everything being deterministic and all
20:17 Octupus im on my world and im falling down to coder
20:17 Smoki Oh, VanessaE, i nearly forgot, i have another business to you ;)
20:18 Smoki you are working on pipelines mod, aren't you ?
20:18 VanessaE yes
20:18 VanessaE Pipeworks, it's called
20:18 VanessaE RealBadAngel is writing the code to make them able to move water
20:19 NekoGloop I have like, 5 stacks of dirt in oldcoder's skyblock server XD
20:19 Smoki at some moment i worked on something similiar, when i want make something like steampunkmod
20:20 khonkhortisan aw it crashed while I was digging
20:20 Smoki but still not get good algorith too distrubute information along pipes. Have you done it already ?
20:20 VanessaE Smoki: RealBadAngel is working on that part.
20:21 Smoki ok, so i need catch him ? :)
20:21 VanessaE yeah
20:22 Smoki or maybe you know if it he working it that something is transported if connected, or amount of that is traced also ?
20:23 VanessaE that's what the tubes stuff is for, he's working on that too
20:23 VanessaE pipeworks has steel pipes for fluids, and plastic pneumatic tubes for objects
20:23 VanessaE he uses the latter in his Technic mod.
20:24 VanessaE and the fluids, he's got most of the code already done, just needs bugfixes.
20:25 Smoki wow, so time to invent boilers, pumps, some automatas etc ;)
20:26 VanessaE perhaps :-)
20:26 VanessaE pipeworks has pump and valve objects
20:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, is that good?
20:26 NekoGloop no i derped
20:26 VanessaE but since no fluids can move yet, they do nothing useful yet
20:26 NekoGloop you have to look up
20:26 T_A_N_K_ http://i.imgur.com/FY63K.png mother of burritos
20:26 VanessaE Neko "I derped" Gloop.
20:26 VanessaE ;_)
20:26 VanessaE ;)
20:26 Basstard` MOTHER OF BURRITOS
20:26 Octupus coder u bad
20:26 Octupus back
20:26 OldCoder Yeah I bad
20:26 OldCoder :-)
20:27 VanessaE T_A_N_K_: mithril?
20:27 OldCoder I'll add the configuration file
20:27 Basstard` OldCoder has a bad back, he's OldCoder.
20:27 T_A_N_K_ diamonds
20:27 VanessaE oh
20:27 T_A_N_K_ diamonds everywhere
20:27 OldCoder Basstard`, Indeed
20:27 VanessaE never used that mod.
20:27 Octupus :)
20:27 Mikeonline hm i will mod tomorrow more
20:28 Uberi minetest.register_alias("default:dirt", "default:mese")
20:28 Octupus cod u add my config
20:28 Mikeonline i will release my changes of node ownership soon
20:28 OldCoder Octupus, I just said that
20:28 Mikeonline added: locked all world without concession
20:28 Octupus ohh i didnt see
20:28 Octupus XD
20:28 Mikeonline added: griefing priv for special players who are allowed to build everywhere
20:29 Uberi Mikeonline: is it available on GH?
20:29 Mikeonline no i need some place todo never did this
20:29 Mikeonline i prefer svn
20:29 Octupus i heard you were a wild 1 OOoOOO
20:29 NekoGloop whoever asked how to build down in skyblock: use lava + water
20:29 Octupus XD
20:30 Smoki Mikeonline added maybe limits to remove area ?
20:30 Uberi Mikeonline: make sure you post about it in the original node ownership thread when you're done!
20:30 Mikeonline yes
20:31 Mikeonline i think it would be nice for all
20:31 Mikeonline and then i post the whole file
20:31 Mikeonline also in 0.4.3 its not neccessary to patch core files
20:33 T_A_N_K_ realbadangel must have tried to type "RE" in the irc when he was making the battery name
20:33 NekoGloop RE-chargable
20:33 NekoGloop that's what it stands for
20:35 Octupus im lonely XD
20:35 OldCoder You can kill your friends in your world
20:35 OldCoder Hold on
20:36 Mikeonline Uberi: do you need the changes quick?
20:36 Mikeonline Smoki: what kind of limits?
20:36 Octupus k
20:37 Uberi Mikeonline: not particularly
20:37 Smoki if owners.tbl gets corrupted (or maybe when adding privs deliberately) you can get an infinite loop
20:38 Mikeonline someone posted remove may be corrupted
20:38 Mikeonline didnt check it
20:38 Smoki it probably happens at redcrab servers - judging that he told that remove area got stack overflow
20:38 Mikeonline redcrab made a patch
20:38 Mikeonline but does it work?`
20:38 OldCoder How does one change password in MT ?
20:38 Mikeonline i included redcrabs patch
20:38 Smoki yes, me and redcrab posted two solutions for that, but i disagree with that radcrab's a little
20:39 Uberi OldCoder: esc > change password
20:39 OldCoder ty
20:39 Octupus yes
20:39 Mikeonline smoki: is your solution well tested?
20:40 Smoki redcrabs patch have one problem i think : if there is is area with child, and this childs has also a child then removing top area wont remove last child
20:40 Smoki no, its prrof of concept - i wrote it out of memory, but if not get syntac error i will work
20:41 Smoki redcrab solution only cheks one level of childs
20:41 NekoGloop NakedFury: are you coming back to the skyblock world eventually?
20:43 NakedFury yes
20:43 NakedFury got class in some time
20:43 NekoGloop ah i see
20:43 Mikeonline maybe there should be a nice recursion
20:43 NekoGloop may i build over to your island?
20:43 Mikeonline but it needs to be rewritten from scratch
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20:46 Smoki you can check my solution if works (its recursive, just had safety againt infinite loop) or modify redcrabs solution as i wrote on forum
20:47 Mikeonline actually i use redcrabs one
20:47 OldCoder I am going to set passwords required now on the worlds
20:47 Mikeonline but without checking it
20:48 NekoGloop wtf i cant use my bucket?
20:48 Octupus coder did u read my instructions
20:49 OldCoder Octupus, I clicked on exit accidentally
20:49 Octupus ohh
20:49 Octupus lol
20:49 OldCoder Octupus, It is fine. One step at a time.
20:49 OldCoder Octupus, I need to help somebody with PHP. Then I will experiment with the servers further.
20:49 Octupus coder
20:50 Octupus go into the conf
20:50 Octupus im helping u set damage
20:51 Octupus u in there
20:51 Octupus ?
20:51 thexyz php = shit
20:51 OldCoder Hi
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21:00 Topic for #minetest is now Please be patient when asking questions; someone may not be around. | Main website: http://minetest.net | Development channel: #minetest-delta
21:01 Octupus $phrase= "Patience is A Virtue";                print "$phrase\n";
21:01 OldCoder Yes
21:01 OldCoder :-)
21:01 OldCoder http://pastebin.ca/2207335
21:01 Octupus :)
21:01 OldCoder Octupus, I will add the PVP option to that
21:01 OldCoder Show it around and see if there is anything else you need
21:01 OldCoder I will be busy for a few minutes
21:01 OldCoder Then will update
21:02 Octupus ok
21:02 Octupus k
21:03 NekoGloop OldCoder, wanna see my skyblock? :3
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21:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, Yes. In 10 minutes. I would.
21:04 NekoGloop Ok.
21:04 * VanessaE pokes redcrab
21:07 NekoGloop why are dry shrubs useless -_-
21:07 Smoki because they are dry...
21:07 Octupus coder i beilieve u need this
21:08 Octupus http://pastebin.com/eTLaS5Y6
21:08 Octupus that shud be correct
21:09 Octupus can i see neko
21:09 OldCoder Octupus, Try your World of Death now
21:09 OldCoder NekoGloop, joining
21:09 Octupus ok
21:09 Octupus u have t exit minetest completely for it to work
21:10 Octupus like exit the bin
21:10 Octupus but u can open it up again
21:10 OldCoder NekoGloop, How would I find it?
21:10 OldCoder Whoa
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21:11 Octupus coder
21:11 Octupus u exit mt completely
21:11 NekoGloop you find it by flying toward my name
21:13 OldCoder NekoGloop, How do I fly?
21:13 OldCoder Octupus, Network glitch
21:13 NekoGloop with the K key
21:13 OldCoder NekoGloop, K k
21:13 OldCoder :-)
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21:28 Smoki bye
21:28 Octupus coder the command is
21:28 Octupus ./grant Octupuslegs all
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21:35 OldCoder Octupus, you don't ask for much :-)
21:35 OldCoder Octupus, so you wish all privs for your server? Very well
21:36 OldCoder Octupus, You are now God. But that means you can't fight fairly with your friends.
21:37 Octupus :)
21:37 OldCoder Huh
21:43 Octupus coder can i show u my thingy i built
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21:46 Octupus OldCoder, can i show u the arena i built
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21:47 OldCoder Octupus, Yes in about 15 minutes. I am helping another developer.
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21:47 OldCoder Octupus, Page me in 15 to 30
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21:50 Octupus ok
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21:59 T_A_N_K_ thexyz, why no i don't i don't even know what that link is for, but any website named sadCODELANGUAGE will always come off strange to me xD
22:00 Octupus lad u join yet
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22:04 OldCoder Octupus, There he is
22:04 Octupus :)
22:04 Octupus lad u join yet
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22:33 OldCoder Hey. Is enable_pvp = true enough to enable fighting and, if so, is left click supposed to fight? Finally, if the game ran without that setting and it was adding, should it convert on the next restart to pvp mode?
22:33 OldCoder *it was added
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22:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, hi
22:41 NekoGloop hi
22:41 OldCoder ey. Is enable_pvp = true enough to enable fighting and, if so, is left click supposed to fight? Finally, if the game ran without that setting and it was adding, should it convert on the next restart to pvp mode?
22:41 VanessaE Neko "I derped" Gloop :-)
22:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, join Octuworld and comment please
22:41 OldCoder VanessaE, maybe you too
22:41 OldCoder If time
22:41 NekoGloop OldCoder: yes it enables fighting
22:41 VanessaE kinda busy on redcrab:30401 right now
22:41 NekoGloop i do not know octuworld's port
22:42 OldCoder NekoGloop, 30004
22:42 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will paste the configuration file
22:42 NekoGloop i like killing myself repeatedly on skyblock to refresh my achivements and get infinite buckets
22:42 OldCoder k
22:43 NekoGloop :D
22:44 OldCoder NekoGloop, http://pastebin.ca/2207353
22:44 OldCoder Review that and take a look at octuworld
22:44 OldCoder What I am doing wrong?
22:45 OldCoder IW   m (Modified)                 Row 2    Col 1   10:45  Ctrl-K H for help
22:45 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/bin/minetestserver \
22:45 OldCoder --port 30004 \
22:45 OldCoder --gameid minetest_game \
22:45 OldCoder --config /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/octuteam.conf \
22:45 OldCoder --world  /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/worlds/octuteam
22:45 OldCoder That is how the game is started
22:45 OldCoder Wondering if one of the new mods conflicts with pvp
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22:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, Wait; even odder, enable_pvp defaults to true
22:48 OldCoder So why doesn't it work?
22:50 OldCoder Hi
22:51 NekoGloop armor\api.lua:28 local armor_groups = {level=0,fleshy=3,snappy=3,choppy=3}
22:51 OldCoder That will fix it?
22:51 OldCoder Patching
22:51 NekoGloop should
22:51 OldCoder Couple of minutes
22:54 Octupus it fixed?
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22:59 OldCoder Octupus, Yes it is fixed
22:59 OldCoder Octupus, Patch to armor
23:01 NekoGloop Meow~
23:02 NekoGloop (the faint meowing of the cat at 11.5Y echoes up to 300Y...)
23:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, thank you for the kitty patching assistance
23:02 NekoGloop :3
23:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, mention the patch to upstream
23:02 NekoGloop sure
23:04 Octupus Gracias coder
23:05 Octupus coder i cant kill lad
23:06 OldCoder Octupus, You both have superpowers
23:06 OldCoder Is he wearing extra armor?
23:07 OldCoder Octupus, PVP is working now. NekoGloop was able to injure me.
23:07 OldCoder Octupus, we will figure all of this out over time.
23:07 OldCoder Not bad for 32 hours
23:07 OldCoder I have an EC2, five servers or so, debugged a lot of crap and built it twice
23:10 NekoGloop why is noone on the skyblock server?
23:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, Is it working?
23:12 NekoGloop the skyblock?
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23:18 Octupus ok
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23:23 OldCoder NekoGloop, checking
23:23 NekoGloop checking what?
23:24 Octupus coder
23:24 Octupus can i put this server on the forums
23:24 Octupus or keep it private
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23:26 OldCoder Octupus, It is public
23:26 OldCoder Muadtralk, Hi
23:26 Muadtralk ello
23:26 OldCoder Octupus, let me back it up
23:26 OldCoder You know there will be griefers
23:27 OldCoder But we will see
23:27 OldCoder Muadtralk, try our new servers
23:28 Muadtralk zut..... I'm sure you've told me the addresses before but my mind has slipped as to what they are
23:28 NekoGloop uh...
23:28 Octupus ok coder i think that will be the safest thing to do
23:28 NekoGloop idk but you wanna come on port 30002
23:39 NekoGloop MuadTralk: you timed out
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23:44 NekoGloop OldCoder: check the skyblock server, it appears to have crashed
23:44 NekoGloop nvm XD
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