Time  Nick             Message
00:00 OldCoder         I assume these all work with 0.4.3
00:00 NekoGloop        also, a few changes should be made to armor, PM me when you have it downloaded and opened in an editor
00:00 OldCoder         All right
00:00 NekoGloop        OldCoder: and only with 0.4.3
00:00 OldCoder         a few minutes
00:00 OldCoder         NekoGloop, 0.4.3 and up
00:00 RealBadAngel     NekoGloop, ive added treetap with textures to technic
00:00 NekoGloop        yes
00:01 OldCoder         NekoGloop, that is fine
00:01 NekoGloop        sweet, I'll DL later.
00:02 OldCoder         NekoGloop, ready
00:02 NekoGloop        for...?
00:02 NekoGloop        oh right.
00:02 OldCoder         Ha
00:03 OldCoder         Short Attention Kitty
00:03 NekoGloop        sorry, mind blanked there.
00:03 OldCoder         np
00:03 OldCoder         This is fun
00:03 OldCoder         I will run all the MTs and all the best mods and worlds
00:03 NekoGloop        change armor\api.lua:28 to local armor_groups = {level=3,fleshy=3,snappy=3,choppy=3}
00:03 OldCoder         In progress
00:04 OldCoder         Just change the 4s to 3s?
00:04 NekoGloop        one moment, something else as well
00:04 OldCoder         NekoGloop ^
00:04 NekoGloop        will take a second to type.
00:05 OldCoder         BTW I am chowning MT to games.user and then making the server run under that identity
00:05 cy1              NekoGloop: I make my couches from solid stone :I
00:05 NekoGloop        armor\init.lua:73-77 to local armors = { {name="wood",label="Wooden",material="default:wood",level=2}, {name="steel",label="Steel",material="default:steel_ingot",level=1}, {name="mese",label="Mese",material="default:mese",level=4},  }
00:05 OldCoder         I assume this will work and be safer
00:05 OldCoder         Hmm
00:05 NekoGloop        cy1: XD
00:05 OldCoder         NekoGloop, this is not in the master?
00:05 OldCoder         k
00:05 cy1              not like we can actually sit in couches anyway...
00:06 OldCoder         NekoGloop, any chance of pasting that?
00:06 RealBadAngel     who cares, couch is couch ;)
00:06 NekoGloop        you can put it all on one line, lua doesnt care.
00:06 OldCoder         All right
00:06 T_A_N_K          well you can
00:06 OldCoder         <NekoGloop> inventory plus, bags, armor, and home GUI
00:06 NekoGloop        it is seperated into lines to make it easier to read to a human
00:06 cy1              an armor mod? How does that work?
00:06 OldCoder         There are no more dependencies?
00:07 T_A_N_K          the trick would be to have the player right click, then the "sit" would be set to true, and on step the player would have their position set to make them feel like they were sitting on the couch or chair
00:07 NekoGloop        oldCoder: nope, all are default (inventory plus for the others)
00:07 OldCoder         All right
00:07 cy1              also I can't get fish to spawn with the animals mod :/
00:07 NekoGloop        T_A_N_K: we mean stairsplus couches, like what i showed you
00:07 OldCoder         You made mese tougher?
00:08 NekoGloop        yes
00:08 OldCoder         k
00:08 cy1              T_A_N_K: and the sensory force feedback body suit they were wearing would feel like soft pleather
00:08 NekoGloop        wood was bumped up, as was steel
00:08 OldCoder         Got it
00:08 T_A_N_K          lol, nekogloop, may i have a link to papyrus beds?
00:08 NekoGloop        this way, having no armor makes you actually able to be damaged
00:08 NekoGloop        T_A_N_K: just a minute
00:09 NekoGloop        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2708
00:09 NekoGloop        OldCoder: ^
00:09 NekoGloop        and T_A_N_K as well.
00:09 cy1              NekoGloop: It's JUST a mod, not a custom server?
00:09 OldCoder         Reviewing
00:10 NekoGloop        cy1: yup
00:10 OldCoder         NekoGloop, You are suggesting a papyrus bed? Any dependencies?
00:10 cy1              This I want to see.
00:10 NekoGloop        OldCoder: no depends.
00:10 OldCoder         k
00:10 OldCoder         Adding
00:10 cy1              yeah a paper bad that sounds comfy
00:10 cy1              :x
00:10 NekoGloop        cy1: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3099
00:10 OldCoder         cy1, is the animals mod working?
00:11 cy1              NekoGloop: holy crap that's awesome :o
00:11 NekoGloop        ok my fingers are tired now from all this typing...
00:11 cy1              OldCoder: Sure, but I can't get fish to spawn for some reason.
00:11 OldCoder         cy1, if that is all it is probably O.K.
00:11 NekoGloop        animals?
00:11 OldCoder         mod
00:11 cy1              sure... oh also vombies can move and attack you invisibly <_<
00:11 OldCoder         ^
00:11 NekoGloop        NO DONT PUT IT ON THE SERVER
00:11 OldCoder         All right
00:12 OldCoder         Curious; y?
00:12 NekoGloop        animals eats servers
00:12 OldCoder         Oh
00:12 cy1              NekoGloop: Have you tried it recently? It's a lot improved from before.
00:12 OldCoder         High CPU
00:12 NekoGloop        cy1: no, because it still sucks I'm sure.
00:12 cy1              Honestly the flowers mod kills my CPU a lot more than animals.
00:12 T_A_N_K          excuse my german but those beds are sexy, they actually look comfortable
00:12 NekoGloop        pilzadam's mod is more useful, although i'd love it if the issue with windows was fixed
00:12 NekoGloop        HINT HINT
00:13 cy1              The vombie thing is a client problem actually. Clients stop moving ClientActiveObjects if they're far away or wait... was that a hack I made?
00:14 cy1              to keep CAOs from trouncing the client if dumped in gratuitous amounts distantly
00:14 cy1              ...
00:14 cy1              damn I've been being slaughtered by teleporting invisible vombies and it's my own fault
00:15 NekoGloop        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LenenAMHC2w&feature=related i lol'd so hard
00:16 OldCoder         armor bags cactusmod charcoal farming flowers gates gloopores home_gui inventory_plus mesecons moreores papyrus_bed pipeworks pump technic xfences
00:16 OldCoder         NekoGloop or anybody else: Does that look about right?
00:18 NekoGloop        try this mod list: http://ompldr.org/vZm0yZQ
00:18 NekoGloop        :D
00:18 NekoGloop        alchemy... i should remove that fail project lol
00:19 NekoGloop        i have pilz's beds and papyrus beds, just for variety XD
00:19 OldCoder         We have papyrus beds
00:19 OldCoder         Look at the list
00:20 OldCoder         Does pilzbeds have dependencies?
00:20 NekoGloop        see if you can find my next project in that picture.
00:20 OldCoder         Ah
00:20 NekoGloop        oldcoder: they need wool.
00:20 NekoGloop        which if you dont have farming...
00:20 OldCoder         Does wool have depends?
00:20 NekoGloop        GET FARMING
00:20 OldCoder         Fine
00:20 NekoGloop        wool is in default XD
00:20 OldCoder         Depends for *that* ?
00:20 OldCoder         Wait
00:20 OldCoder         So wool and farming are provided already?
00:20 NekoGloop        no
00:20 NekoGloop        wool is
00:20 NekoGloop        farming is not
00:21 OldCoder         Fine
00:21 OldCoder         farming depends on?
00:21 OldCoder         whoa
00:21 OldCoder         that's a lot of mods
00:21 NekoGloop        did you just look at the picture? ;)
00:21 OldCoder         I suppose nobody has made a nice ZIP
00:21 OldCoder         Yes
00:21 OldCoder         I need that in text
00:21 NekoGloop        my ZIP would be at least 100mb conpressed XD
00:21 OldCoder         So?
00:21 OldCoder         I have room
00:22 NekoGloop        that and i have some projects I'm working on
00:22 OldCoder         farming depends on?
00:22 NekoGloop        default, bucket, wool, and something else in the forum post
00:22 OldCoder         nature_pack
00:22 OldCoder         bucket and wool are o.k. then?
00:22 NekoGloop        yes
00:23 NekoGloop        nature_pack: ew. no. just... no.
00:23 OldCoder         Farming says depends on it
00:23 OldCoder         Depends on flowers mod included in nature_pack
00:23 OldCoder         Oh can just extract flowers I assume
00:23 NekoGloop        yes.
00:24 OldCoder         Ha
00:24 OldCoder         From the other Neko
00:24 NekoGloop        yes
00:24 OldCoder         Working
00:24 NekoGloop        please... just no nature_pack
00:24 OldCoder         No
00:24 OldCoder         Just flowers
00:24 OldCoder         For farming
00:24 NekoGloop        lol ok
00:24 NekoGloop        unifieddyes?
00:25 OldCoder         Wait
00:25 OldCoder         You can check the list again
00:25 NekoGloop        xdoors2?
00:25 OldCoder         Please hold
00:25 NekoGloop        jumping mod? (trampolines and cushions)
00:25 NekoGloop        moreblocks
00:25 OldCoder         Please hold
00:25 NekoGloop        lol what do i hold on to?
00:26 OldCoder         Time
00:26 OldCoder         I need to make a self contained set
00:26 OldCoder         Getting there
00:27 cy1              hm, armor doesn't just work with mobs damn
00:27 OldCoder         So there are two types of flowers
00:27 RealBadAngel     use the flowers i sent you with modpack
00:27 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, will those replace neko259 flowers for farming purposes?
00:27 RealBadAngel     theres farming and flowers mod
00:28 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I see farming.
00:28 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, will those replace neko259 flowers for farming purposes?
00:28 RealBadAngel     havent played with nekos259 one
00:28 NekoGloop        farming doesnt use flowers to my knowledge
00:28 RealBadAngel     with this ones and you can have dyes and wool
00:28 OldCoder         NekoGloop, it is in the farming post
00:29 NekoGloop        so its a dependancy with no use.
00:29 OldCoder         Adding dyes
00:29 NekoGloop        unifieddyes
00:29 RealBadAngel     dyes are built in
00:29 OldCoder         So no unifieddyes?
00:30 NekoGloop        get unifieddyes!
00:30 OldCoder         All right
00:30 NekoGloop        a mod that gives builtin vessels a use == awesome
00:30 RealBadAngel     some other mods may use it
00:30 OldCoder         This mod will NOT work without buckets, vessels, and sources of flowers and junglegrass.
00:31 RealBadAngel     vessels were made as a part of unified dyes
00:31 NekoGloop        get vanessae's junglegrass mod
00:31 OldCoder         Working
00:32 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Ah. I C. You sent me her flowes.
00:32 OldCoder         *r
00:32 RealBadAngel     yes, those are vanessa's flowers
00:32 OldCoder         O.K. Where do I get buckets and vessels?
00:32 cy1              Oh, because mobs don't check armor groups at all, just figure a hp amount based on mob type
00:32 RealBadAngel     both are built in
00:32 OldCoder         Then almost done
00:33 OldCoder         NekoGloop, is xdoors2 important?
00:33 OldCoder         You mentioned it above
00:33 NekoGloop        yes
00:33 OldCoder         Also jumping
00:33 OldCoder         ?
00:34 NekoGloop        jeija's jumping
00:34 OldCoder         xdoors2 and jumping: depends?
00:35 NekoGloop        depends on default
00:35 NekoGloop        both of them
00:35 OldCoder         k
00:38 OldCoder         Still working
00:39 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, O.K. Technic is yours
00:39 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Should I install Haven texture pack?
00:40 RealBadAngel     would be nice :)
00:40 OldCoder         k
00:40 OldCoder         How?
00:40 RealBadAngel     hold on i will update it
00:43 RealBadAngel     https://github.com/RealBadAngel/HavenTP
00:43 OldCoder         k
00:43 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, NekoGloop Hang around at least a few minutes
00:43 OldCoder         Will need to check again
00:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Is there a GitHub ZIP link for that?
00:44 RealBadAngel     yeah
00:44 OldCoder         Found it
00:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, How do I install HavenTP
00:45 RealBadAngel     copy all the textures to textures/all
00:45 OldCoder         k
00:45 T_A_N_K          realbadangel, can i actually craft the tubey goodness things? :D
00:46 RealBadAngel     you can craft nodebreaker and deployers
00:46 T_A_N_K          :D :D :D
00:46 RealBadAngel     deployers are not finished, workin on them right now
00:47 OldCoder         <cy1> Honestly the flowers mod kills my CPU a lot more than animals.
00:47 OldCoder         I will need to pay $$$ for this
00:47 OldCoder         Are Vanessa's flowers an issue?
00:48 cy1              oh fucking hell scriptapi has set_armor_groups but no get_armor_groups
00:48 T_A_N_K          if i make you some music, can you add it to your mod?
00:48 cy1              OldCoder: Well, depends how much you turn them up but yeah.
00:48 OldCoder         If I omit the flowers will farming break?
00:49 cy1              Vanessa's flowers register one ABM on dirt for every kind of flower.
00:49 cy1              I don't think farming depends on flowers...
00:49 OldCoder         Post says it does
00:49 OldCoder         I will try omitting them
00:49 OldCoder         Whose mod is pump? Link?
00:49 cy1              That ABM goes off now and again, and usually does nothing at all, wasting your server CPU
00:49 RealBadAngel     ive made technic dep on flowers, coz i need dyes
00:49 OldCoder         Ah
00:49 OldCoder         So must have them
00:49 cy1              And if you're lucky and the flowers aren't too dense and you have air and everything's fine, you get a flower.
00:50 OldCoder         Is this going to cost me $100s ?
00:50 cy1              nah I'm just complaining
00:50 OldCoder         So not a huge CPU time issue?
00:50 OldCoder         Whose mod is pump ?
00:50 RealBadAngel     T_A_N_K, you were talkin to me?
00:50 T_A_N_K          yes
00:50 RealBadAngel     mine, it is in deps?
00:51 RealBadAngel     T_A_N_K, theres already music pack for technic
00:51 T_A_N_K          alternate music pack?
00:51 T_A_N_K          :3
00:51 RealBadAngel     look at the technic post, theres link for it
00:52 cy1              OldCoder: pumps same guy as technic
00:52 OldCoder         k
00:52 RealBadAngel     remove pump
00:52 OldCoder         Not needed?
00:52 RealBadAngel     its here by accident
00:52 OldCoder         Then almost done again
00:52 RealBadAngel     is wip
00:52 OldCoder         Wait
00:53 NekoGloop        cy1: about a lot of lines up, use the player's armors.
00:53 T_A_N_K          wow this papyrus bedmod is freakin awesome
00:53 OldCoder         http://pastebin.ca/2207076
00:54 OldCoder         Everybody please review that
00:54 OldCoder         Are there missing dependencies or desired additions?
00:54 OldCoder         NekoGloop, armor includes your patches
00:55 RealBadAngel     ok with me
00:55 OldCoder         Should fly?
00:55 OldCoder         k
00:55 OldCoder         NekoGloop?
00:56 NekoGloop        yes?
00:56 OldCoder         See link above
00:56 NekoGloop        yes
00:56 OldCoder         Missing anything? Depends or desired mods?
00:59 NekoGloop        hm...
00:59 OldCoder         How do I install mesecons? Copy all of the mesecons* folders?
00:59 NekoGloop        nope, that should be all
00:59 OldCoder         README only mentions one
00:59 NekoGloop        you just install the modpack
00:59 OldCoder         How?
01:00 OldCoder         I see
01:00 OldCoder         It can be done as multiple level?
01:00 OldCoder         Tree does not need to be flattened?
01:01 NekoGloop        you need a modpack.txt in the folder
01:01 OldCoder         Yes
01:01 OldCoder         I think I'm set
01:01 OldCoder         ls
01:01 OldCoder         Oops
01:01 NekoGloop        so if mesecons\modpack.txt then it reads the rest of the folders as more mods
01:01 OldCoder         Almost all of these can be flattened
01:01 OldCoder         Yes
01:09 OldCoder         Ha
01:09 OldCoder         AWS works
01:09 RealBadAngel     is server up?
01:09 OldCoder         Soon
01:09 OldCoder         With a domain even
01:12 OldCoder         Anybody here familiar with A and CNAME records?
01:16 T_A_N_K          nekogloop, want to try a game mode, which i call technic ultra?
01:16 NekoGloop        nah
01:17 NekoGloop        i have enough gamemodes XD
01:17 T_A_N_K          i took all the best mods, made them all work together perfectly, and added some things in, such as shears, and tuned some things, to make the game feel better
01:17 NekoGloop        i see
01:23 T_A_N_K          i'm basically pulling a hackerzside
01:26 RealBadAngel     ok, ive made placing nodes and planting saplings with deployer
01:30 T_A_N_K          VanessaE: do i have your permission to put your awesome mods into an extreme modpack?
01:31 T_A_N_K          (with credit)
01:44 OldCoder         01:43:37: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "technic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "dye".
01:44 OldCoder         01:43:37: ERROR[main]: mod "unifieddyes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "vessels"
01:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, ^
01:44 OldCoder         dye and vessels don't seem to be built in
01:44 OldCoder         This is based on 0.4.3-git
01:44 RealBadAngel     strange
01:44 OldCoder         BTW I am about ready to launch this
01:44 OldCoder         Let's finish it if possible
01:45 RealBadAngel     you have compiled it?
01:45 OldCoder         Just now
01:45 OldCoder         Using the latest sources
01:45 OldCoder         Is there a stable 0.4.3 snapshot?
01:45 OldCoder         semi-stable anyway
01:45 RealBadAngel     have you downloaded mintest-game?
01:45 OldCoder         Yes
01:45 OldCoder         It works with 0.4.1
01:45 RealBadAngel     041 doesnt have vessels and dye
01:46 OldCoder         I know
01:46 OldCoder         I mean minetest_game works
01:46 RealBadAngel     you should download mintest game for 0.4.3
01:46 OldCoder         Do you mean minetest_game?
01:46 RealBadAngel     yes
01:46 OldCoder         I have done so AFAIK
01:46 OldCoder         That is where the mods are installed
01:46 OldCoder         Checking to see if I have the wrong one
01:46 OldCoder         That would explain it
01:46 OldCoder         Working
01:47 OldCoder         Probably
01:47 RealBadAngel     you should have 11 mods in games/minetest_game/mods
01:47 OldCoder         Yes
01:47 OldCoder         Working
01:48 RealBadAngel     video with deployer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0&feature=youtu.be
01:49 OldCoder         Better
01:49 OldCoder         01:48:51: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from
01:49 OldCoder         01:48:51: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/
01:49 OldCoder         farming/init.lua:
01:49 OldCoder         01:48:51: ERROR[main]: ...e/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/farming/init.lua:5
01:49 OldCoder         7: attempt to call global 'flowers_add_sprite_flower' (a nil value)
01:49 OldCoder         Just farming now
01:49 OldCoder         A flower problem
01:49 OldCoder         I am using Vanessa's latest flowers. Would that be compatible with the flowers you had? Or do I need Neko259 flowers?
01:50 OldCoder         Is it possible latest farming needs Neko259 flowers?
01:51 OldCoder         Checking
01:51 RealBadAngel     wait
01:51 OldCoder         Yep
01:51 OldCoder         Farming now depends on Neko259 flowers
01:51 RealBadAngel     you have put farming into minetest_game?
01:52 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, One of you urged it
01:52 OldCoder         Should I take it out?
01:52 RealBadAngel     minetest_game is only for built in mods
01:52 OldCoder         All right
01:52 OldCoder         Where should all of the added mods go?
01:53 RealBadAngel     on windows /mods/minetest
01:53 OldCoder         That is not enough
01:53 OldCoder         That mods folder
01:53 OldCoder         Where does it go?
01:53 OldCoder         Are there any Linux users present?
01:53 RealBadAngel     look for the file mods_here.txt
01:54 OldCoder         No file begins with mods
01:54 OldCoder         I don't think that is the problem
01:54 RealBadAngel     yes it is
01:54 OldCoder         Issue is that farming now depends on Neko259 flowers
01:54 OldCoder         Go on then
01:54 OldCoder         I simply need to know where to put the mods
01:54 RealBadAngel     gimme ur game directory tree
01:54 OldCoder         One moment
01:56 RealBadAngel     btw farming depends just on built in mods, nothin more
01:56 OldCoder         k
01:56 OldCoder         One moment
01:56 OldCoder         http://pastebin.ca/2207079
01:57 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, post includes otherwise about farming but O.K.
01:57 RealBadAngel     lol seems you dont have mods directory at all
01:58 OldCoder         That is sort of my point :-)
01:58 OldCoder         Where does it go?
01:58 OldCoder         The docs are kind of lacking
01:58 RealBadAngel     hold on
01:59 RealBadAngel     create ./share/minetest/mods/minetest
01:59 RealBadAngel     and put there all the mods
01:59 OldCoder         Sure the last part should be there/
01:59 OldCoder         ?
01:59 RealBadAngel     yes
01:59 OldCoder         Also; see the farming post. It says Neko259 nature pack. But all right.
01:59 OldCoder         Working
01:59 RealBadAngel     hmmm maybe he added somethin
02:00 OldCoder         I think so. I grepped the code
02:00 RealBadAngel     i have version without such deps
02:00 OldCoder         Yep
02:00 OldCoder         I used latest
02:00 OldCoder         I don't think this will fix it
02:00 T_A_N_K          fancy game mode http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3174
02:01 T_A_N_K          donaldr3, how is the mod coming along? :D
02:02 RealBadAngel     T_A_N_K, seen the video?
02:03 T_A_N_K          can i has link to it realbadangel?
02:03 RealBadAngel     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0&feature=youtu.be
02:04 NekoGloop        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlhBrM0RAIY
02:04 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, any way to tell if the mods are being loaded?
02:05 T_A_N_K          nice!!
02:05 RealBadAngel     some of them print out "loaded!" or something in the console
02:05 RealBadAngel     i mean debug console of minetest
02:05 OldCoder         k
02:06 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, No mods seem to be loaded except from minetest_game
02:06 OldCoder         I think they need to go there and I need to add Neko259 flowers
02:06 OldCoder         The question is; will Vanessa flowers conflict with Neko259 flowers?
02:06 RealBadAngel     no way you put mods it minetest_game
02:06 OldCoder         Then where do they go?
02:07 OldCoder         Wait
02:07 RealBadAngel     mods/minetest/
02:07 OldCoder         working on it
02:08 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, can you give me any "registering" message to grep for?
02:08 OldCoder         Because I don't think they are being found
02:09 RealBadAngel     give me error logs
02:09 OldCoder         There are no errors
02:09 OldCoder         It starts
02:09 RealBadAngel     game launches?
02:09 OldCoder         Yes
02:09 OldCoder         You can come play shortly
02:09 RealBadAngel     go for creative
02:09 OldCoder         Building client now
02:09 OldCoder         About 5 minutes
02:10 RealBadAngel     ?
02:10 OldCoder         To build client
02:10 OldCoder         So I can see what is there
02:10 RealBadAngel     so what you have compiled before?
02:10 OldCoder         I compiled on the server side
02:10 OldCoder         Not on my PC
02:10 OldCoder         I need to build a 0.4.3 client
02:10 OldCoder         For myself
02:10 RealBadAngel     thats why you didnt have the directories
02:10 OldCoder         Not following
02:11 OldCoder         That does not make sense
02:11 OldCoder         Server side compile
02:11 OldCoder         Has nothing to do with my PC
02:11 RealBadAngel     you shall compile whole game
02:11 OldCoder         I *did* do that
02:11 RealBadAngel     not just the server side
02:11 OldCoder         All of it
02:11 OldCoder         You have misunderstood
02:11 OldCoder         No
02:11 RealBadAngel     ah
02:11 OldCoder         You have misunderstood
02:11 RealBadAngel     ok
02:11 OldCoder         Wait
02:12 RealBadAngel     btw i just compiled the game on debian and have all the directories and files
02:12 OldCoder         I am very happy for you :p
02:12 OldCoder         I did a very standard cmake && make && make install
02:13 OldCoder         That is what happened under Ubuntu
02:14 RealBadAngel     https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78
02:14 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, come and play
02:15 OldCoder         What is in there?
02:15 OldCoder         Reviewing
02:15 RealBadAngel     compile quide for linux ;)
02:15 RealBadAngel     guide
02:15 RealBadAngel     whats the ip?
02:15 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I have done all of that
02:15 OldCoder         Come and play
02:15 OldCoder         develan.com
02:15 OldCoder         port 30000
02:16 RealBadAngel     connecting
02:16 OldCoder         Are the mods there or not?
02:17 OldCoder         If not; they should work if I move them back
02:17 OldCoder         but I will need Neko259 flowers
02:17 RealBadAngel     i dont know yet
02:18 RealBadAngel     i dont think so, it looks like no mods at all
02:18 OldCoder         My point stands
02:18 OldCoder         Now...
02:19 OldCoder         Will Vanessa and Neko259 flowers conflict?
02:19 NekoGloop        yes
02:19 NekoGloop        both are named flowers
02:19 OldCoder         What happens if I remove Vanessa flowers?
02:19 OldCoder         That is simple
02:19 OldCoder         Actually no
02:19 NekoGloop        Neko259 flowers == VanessaE flowers
02:19 NekoGloop        at least, an old version of them
02:19 OldCoder         Then shall I simply delete VanessaE flowers?
02:20 OldCoder         And install Neko259 flowers so that farming can work?
02:20 VanessaE         what huh?
02:20 VanessaE         oh
02:20 OldCoder         VanessaE, Lots of new servers coming
02:20 VanessaE         my flowers doesn't as far as I know interact with anything but irontrees and bushes, which I already patched.
02:21 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, See above
02:21 VanessaE         it shouldn't have any relation to farming.
02:21 OldCoder         Comment?
02:21 OldCoder         VanessaE, It doesn't
02:21 RealBadAngel     https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming/blob/master/depends.txt
02:21 OldCoder         Reviewing
02:21 RealBadAngel     farming doesnt need nothin but defaults
02:21 OldCoder         That is *not* what the post says
02:21 OldCoder         And grep the source code for yourself
02:21 OldCoder         Wait
02:21 RealBadAngel     im reading it now
02:22 RealBadAngel     theres nothin bout neko259 mods
02:22 OldCoder         Wait
02:22 OldCoder         You are right; but it is there somewhere
02:22 OldCoder         Hold on
02:22 OldCoder         I found it an hour ago
02:22 RealBadAngel     https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming
02:23 OldCoder         *shrug*
02:23 RealBadAngel     theres his code and mod
02:23 OldCoder         Somebody depends on Neko259 flowers
02:23 OldCoder         Server will not start without them
02:23 OldCoder         And I still don't know where to put mods under Linux
02:23 OldCoder         You say; not into minetest_game. Where, then?
02:23 OldCoder         I think they need to go back there
02:23 OldCoder         If not, where?
02:24 RealBadAngel     tree should like like this
02:24 OldCoder         I see you building
02:25 RealBadAngel     ..       /games  /textures /worlds /mods
02:25 RealBadAngel     etc
02:25 OldCoder         But the mods are not being detected
02:25 OldCoder         And they were detected in the original location
02:25 OldCoder         Comments?
02:25 OldCoder         Am I the *only* Linux person?
02:26 RealBadAngel     damn, ive built same source on debian and i do have the directories
02:26 OldCoder         Yep
02:26 OldCoder         I assure you:
02:26 OldCoder         cmake with a prefix; maybe that is the issue
02:26 OldCoder         make && make install
02:26 OldCoder         Hmm
02:26 OldCoder         I'll bet it's the use of a prefix
02:26 OldCoder         Is there a configuration file option?
02:27 OldCoder         That might be simple
02:27 RealBadAngel     with parameters? like in the guide?
02:27 OldCoder         Checking
02:28 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I don't see any relevant parameters
02:28 RealBadAngel     i can see
02:28 OldCoder         I will review further
02:28 RealBadAngel     debug or realease for exaple
02:28 OldCoder         Yes
02:28 OldCoder         But not relevant to where the mods go
02:28 OldCoder         Except for prefix
02:29 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Not much more you can say
02:29 OldCoder         Thank you
02:29 OldCoder         Experimenting further
02:29 RealBadAngel     hmmm
02:30 OldCoder         If there is a config file option
02:30 OldCoder         that would help
02:30 OldCoder         Wait
02:31 OldCoder         Is there a make install_data or something?
02:31 OldCoder         Nope
02:32 RealBadAngel     have you built whole game or just server side?
02:33 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I *told* you. All of it. When I said server side I meant on the server.
02:33 OldCoder         Reviewing CMake code
02:33 OldCoder         I'll figure it out
02:35 OldCoder         I think cmake is skipping part of the install
02:37 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I think I found the problem
02:37 OldCoder         Or one problem
02:37 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Have you tested building from git?
02:38 RealBadAngel     yup
02:38 OldCoder         Notice that git sources do not include minetest_game
02:38 OldCoder         True?
02:38 RealBadAngel     yes
02:38 OldCoder         Look yourself at the CMakeLists file
02:38 OldCoder         See for yourself
02:38 RealBadAngel     you have to download it
02:38 OldCoder         If that folder is not present
02:38 OldCoder         I know
02:38 OldCoder         If that folder is not present
02:39 OldCoder         cmake will not install what you are talking about
02:39 OldCoder         It's right there in the code
02:39 OldCoder         Patching this
02:43 RealBadAngel     ive compiling it again
02:43 RealBadAngel     1st downloaded sources, downloaded minetest_game
02:44 RealBadAngel     cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release
02:44 RealBadAngel     make -j2
02:44 OldCoder         No!
02:44 RealBadAngel     and thats all
02:44 OldCoder         Wrong!
02:44 OldCoder         -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
02:44 OldCoder         ^ Not correct
02:44 OldCoder         That is for run in place
02:44 OldCoder         We have identified the difference
02:44 RealBadAngel     im building it same directory as sources
02:45 OldCoder         You are also setting RUN_IN_PLACE
02:45 OldCoder         which is incorrect for a distro configuration
02:45 OldCoder         That is the difference
02:45 OldCoder         Moving on then
02:45 RealBadAngel     want another way so specify directory and  -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
02:45 OldCoder         Not following
02:46 RealBadAngel     - If you want to install it system-wide (or are making a distribution package), you will want to use -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
02:46 OldCoder         Yes
02:46 OldCoder         But that appears to be the default
02:46 OldCoder         Experimenting
02:48 RealBadAngel     ive also deleted CMakeCache.txt
02:48 RealBadAngel     before ive run cmake
02:49 NekoGloop        Meow...
02:49 OldCoder         NekoGloop, Hello kitty
02:50 RealBadAngel     woof woof
02:50 NekoGloop        ^w^
02:50 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Looks like I have hit the CPU limits on my EC2
02:50 RealBadAngel     seen deployer neko?
02:50 OldCoder         Might be stuck for now
02:50 NekoGloop        No havent seen it.
02:50 NekoGloop        ipad atm
02:50 RealBadAngel     no youtube on ipad?
02:51 RealBadAngel     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEAp5YSpm0
02:51 NekoGloop        Well i get youtube xD
02:51 NekoGloop        I thought you meant thru github
02:53 NekoGloop        Cool.
02:53 RealBadAngel     i havent uploaded it to github yet, it can now only place nodes and plant seeds or saplings
02:53 RealBadAngel     no tools usage yet
02:54 khonkhortisan    power cycling the router crashes xchat
02:55 RealBadAngel     damn 5am, i think i will go to sleep for 2 hours at least
02:55 NekoGloop        Lol
02:55 T_A_N_K          realbadangel, what can be used with mesecons?
02:55 T_A_N_K          i tried the electric furnace
02:55 T_A_N_K          oh, goodnight lol
02:55 RealBadAngel     deployer and nodebreaker by now
02:56 NekoGloop        Only deployer and nodebreaker
02:56 RealBadAngel     later on i will add more control logic
02:56 T_A_N_K          nekogloop, how do i get diamond?
02:56 NekoGloop        Dig,
02:56 RealBadAngel     deep down
02:56 NekoGloop        Dig a lot.
02:56 T_A_N_K          OH GOD
02:57 T_A_N_K          diggy diggy HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEEEEEEEEEEE
02:57 NekoGloop        It's about 2x as rare as mc diamonds.
02:58 RealBadAngel     ive made them lately a bit more common
02:58 RealBadAngel     not much ;)
03:00 T_A_N_K          at around 20,000 ores outnumber stone
03:00 NekoGloop        Yes
03:01 NekoGloop        That's your reward for gloopores moreores and technic all at once
03:03 NekoGloop        Good night
03:10 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Hi
03:11 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I moved the mods back where they were and replaced Vanessa flowers with neko259 flowers
03:11 OldCoder         World loads now with the mods
03:11 OldCoder         Try it
03:12 T_A_N_K          test
03:14 cy1              wtf is up with armor groups and groupcaps for tools
03:14 cy1              if you have armor fleshy=4 that's bad against swords, right?
03:14 OldCoder         cy1, care to try a new 0.4.3 server with most of the key mods?
03:14 cy1              OldCoder: I'll hold off for now, tryin to get mobs and armor to work together.
03:14 OldCoder         cy1, O.K.
03:15 OldCoder         VanessaE, awake?
03:28 cornernote       hey
03:33 OldCoder         cornernote, Hello
03:33 OldCoder         cornernote, I am using your mods on a new server
03:33 cornernote       cool
03:33 cornernote       whats the server ?
03:33 OldCoder         Showing up in a moment
03:33 OldCoder         Just backing up...
03:33 OldCoder         k
03:33 OldCoder         There are two worlds running:
03:34 OldCoder         Port 30000 is 0.4.3 git with lots of mods and a fresh map
03:34 OldCoder         Port 30001 is 0.4.1 stable with a small set of mods and tuxworld by mrtux
03:34 OldCoder         Try either; they are running concurrently
03:34 OldCoder         Location is:
03:34 OldCoder         Server: develan.com
03:34 OldCoder         Port: 30000 for 0.4.3 and 30001 for 0.4.1 tuxworld
03:35 OldCoder         Your stuff is at 30000
03:35 OldCoder
03:35 cornernote       trying with my 0.4.3 latest from sfan5's builds
03:35 OldCoder         All right
03:41 cornernote       sorry, was on skype with someone
03:41 cornernote       aparently supposed to be working or some crap
03:42 * OldCoder       shrugs
03:42 OldCoder         I spent about 2 hours debating with RBA about where the mods were supposed to go
03:42 OldCoder         For my Linux server build...
03:42 OldCoder         They will *not* work presently in mods/minetest
03:42 OldCoder         Server simply does not find them anywhere but inside minetest_game
03:43 OldCoder         With that change and replacing Vanessa's flowers with Neko259's flowers
03:43 OldCoder         Everything seems to run
03:43 cornernote       its a little lagy
03:43 cornernote       where are you ?
03:43 cornernote       im in australia
03:43 OldCoder         U.S.
03:44 OldCoder         Seems fast enough here
03:45 cornernote       i think cos its sending me all the world packets
03:45 cornernote       like for around here
03:45 OldCoder         Hmm?
03:45 OldCoder         Explain
03:45 cornernote       once its loaded more of the area it will be more responsive
03:45 OldCoder         Ah
03:46 OldCoder         I am trapped underwater
03:47 OldCoder         Stuck; restarting
03:48 OldCoder         How do I get out?
03:49 OldCoder         Hmm
03:49 OldCoder         You are there
03:51 OldCoder         I will back up these worlds several times a day eventually
03:51 OldCoder         Then no griefing
04:00 cornernote       its still really laggy for me :(
04:00 OldCoder         Sorry to hear it. Any theories?
04:01 cornernote       minetest doesnt work well with high latency ?
04:01 OldCoder         If laggy I'll need to have others test it. It is an Amazon AWS EC2 instance.
04:01 cornernote       lemme ping u
04:01 OldCoder         Should be plenty fast enough
04:01 OldCoder         Do the pings
04:01 OldCoder         I'll need to enable pings I guess
04:01 cornernote       ping timed out
04:01 cornernote       =)
04:01 OldCoder         Not exactly
04:01 OldCoder         It isn't supported
04:01 OldCoder         I'll have others test
04:02 OldCoder         Seems fast here
04:02 OldCoder         Have you tried other U.S. AWS EC2 VMs before?
04:02 cornernote       yes, but not for MT
04:02 OldCoder         Ah
04:02 cornernote       i have never tried one with mt
04:02 OldCoder         We'll see if there is a consensus
04:02 cornernote       cant see why it wouldnt work tho
04:02 OldCoder         This is a release build
04:02 OldCoder         And CPU usage is low
04:02 OldCoder         Checking that again
04:03 cornernote       u need fast disk writes
04:03 cornernote       and fast network
04:03 OldCoder         Yes
04:03 OldCoder         I have been told that requirements aren't actually that high
04:03 cornernote       not so much cpu, mt is quite nice on the cpu most of the time
04:03 OldCoder         Any tips regarding optimization or testing?
04:03 OldCoder         Ah
04:03 cornernote       i saw this... sec...
04:03 cornernote       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1825
04:03 cornernote       have you done that ?
04:03 OldCoder         Reviewing
04:04 OldCoder         Let me do that right now
04:04 OldCoder         Which folder do I place the .conf file in?
04:04 cornernote       sec
04:04 cornernote       the same folder bin is in
04:05 cornernote       eg, the top level
04:05 OldCoder         Sure?
04:05 OldCoder         Wait
04:05 OldCoder         You are thinking Windows
04:05 cornernote       thats where minetest.conf.example is
04:05 cornernote       i have no idea on linux
04:05 cornernote       lol
04:05 OldCoder         I seem to be the only Linux person
04:05 OldCoder         Checking the source code now
04:05 cornernote       not at all
04:05 OldCoder         I will try this
04:05 OldCoder         Nobody else commented tonight at all
04:05 OldCoder         Give me a couple of minutes
04:05 OldCoder         Thx for advice
04:05 cornernote       most of the core devs and moders that write code seem to use linux
04:05 OldCoder         Yes
04:06 cornernote       lemme know when server is back up
04:06 OldCoder         Yes
04:13 OldCoder         cornernote, try it now
04:15 cornernote       yes, thats way better
04:15 OldCoder         O.K.
04:15 OldCoder         thx
04:15 cornernote       its not instant, but its not uber laggy
04:15 OldCoder         All right
04:15 cornernote       its like 0.5 - 1s behind
04:15 cornernote       instead of like 5-7s
04:15 OldCoder         Will note. Also will back up this sutff.
04:15 OldCoder         That is still slow
04:15 OldCoder         I am not seeing delays
04:15 cornernote       whats the ping tho ?
04:16 OldCoder         Hmm?
04:16 OldCoder         The OS doesn't have ping enabled
04:16 cornernote       whats the ping response time
04:16 OldCoder         The OS doesn't have ping enabled
04:16 cornernote       then we cant check the latency caused by distance
04:16 OldCoder         I'd need to reconfigure and am falling asleep
04:16 OldCoder         I can add ping
04:16 cornernote       lol
04:16 OldCoder         But not tonight
04:16 cornernote       ok, go sleep then =)
04:16 * OldCoder       shrugs
04:16 OldCoder         Not yet
04:16 OldCoder         Anyway
04:16 cornernote       its cool, its a lot better than it was
04:16 OldCoder         Servers seem to work
04:16 OldCoder         Have fun
04:16 cornernote       thanks
04:16 OldCoder         I will back up the worlds
04:17 OldCoder         No more griefing then
04:17 OldCoder         Might back them up hourly
04:17 OldCoder         We'll see
04:17 OldCoder         If you have 0.4.1 client too mrtuxworld is on port 30001
04:17 OldCoder         If you have a map of your own
04:17 OldCoder         I can run that as well
04:17 OldCoder         Everybody's map can be saved and backed up
04:17 OldCoder         I figure I can run about a dozen of these things
04:18 OldCoder
04:18 cornernote       i ran a skyblock one
04:18 OldCoder         cornernote, I will post a list of mods on my own site. You and others suggest as many mods as you like. But I prefer low dependencies and stable.
04:19 OldCoder         Skyblock?
04:19 OldCoder         What is that?
04:19 cornernote       its one of my mods
04:19 cornernote       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2799
04:19 OldCoder         Shall I add it?
04:19 cornernote       only if you want to nuke your world
04:19 OldCoder         Explain
04:19 cornernote       needs its own world
04:20 OldCoder         How good is the mod? I can make a skyblock world
04:20 cornernote       sure
04:20 OldCoder         Again... I will be running a number of servers
04:20 OldCoder         What does it do?
04:20 cornernote       basically.... it makes aliases for all mapgen_
04:20 cornernote       to air
04:20 cornernote       so no mapgen
04:20 OldCoder         Reading
04:20 OldCoder         Result is?
04:20 cornernote       you start on a little island
04:20 cornernote       and you have missions
04:21 cornernote       build stuff, etc
04:21 OldCoder         I see
04:21 cornernote       then you get rewards
04:21 OldCoder         Do people play this?
04:21 cornernote       me and my kids do
04:21 cornernote       lol
04:21 OldCoder         That is fine
04:21 cornernote       i dunno about others
04:21 OldCoder         Will others try it if you explain?
04:21 cornernote       i just put it up incase others want to
04:21 OldCoder         One question
04:21 cornernote       yeah, others have played it
04:21 cornernote       its not like super popular or anything
04:21 cornernote       but it is a lot of fun
04:22 OldCoder         If I install the mod I assume it is activated automatically. Is there any simple way to enable or disable it on a per world basis?
04:22 cornernote       i do it by creating a game... eg..
04:22 OldCoder         Ah
04:22 OldCoder         Yes!
04:22 cornernote       copy games/minetest_game to games/skyblock_game
04:22 OldCoder         That will work
04:23 OldCoder         Is this in fact quite fun?
04:23 cornernote       play it, you tell me
04:23 cornernote       i really enjoy it
04:23 OldCoder         Hmm
04:23 cornernote       building starting from nothing
04:23 OldCoder         I will make you a skyblock world
04:23 OldCoder         If you will get it started afterward
04:23 OldCoder         I assume building is still possible?
04:23 cornernote       you will want to refer to the craft guide to make basic things like dirt/gravel
04:23 cornernote       http://cornernote.net/minetest/skyblock/wiki/crafts.php
04:24 OldCoder         Too tired for tonight
04:24 OldCoder         Let me get this started and see how it goes
04:24 khonkhortisan    offtopic -> Does ebay have a "mark as received" button?
04:24 OldCoder         cornernote, is it compatible with the other mods?
04:24 cornernote       yes, but there is one thing to note
04:24 OldCoder         Go on
04:25 cornernote       if your other mod is moreores, then you need to give the player a way to get the ore
04:25 cornernote       because there is no mapgen
04:25 OldCoder         Can I just delete moreores?
04:25 OldCoder         What depends on it?
04:25 cornernote       then the player wont be able to craft the items in the other mod
04:25 OldCoder         Can I just delete moreores?
04:25 cornernote       because they need the ore
04:25 OldCoder         What depends on it?
04:26 cornernote       many things depend on it, because it provides metals
04:26 OldCoder         So...
04:26 cornernote       many other mods i mean
04:26 OldCoder         What needs to be done?
04:26 cornernote       so the solution is....
04:26 cornernote       when player digs stone, they get a % chance at a drop
04:26 cornernote       need to add the ore into that drop
04:26 OldCoder         How would I add this?
04:26 cornernote       i'll show you how i do it
04:26 OldCoder         Explain a bit
04:27 cornernote       when you dig a node, you get a drop
04:27 cornernote       you can define this drop, so that its a % chance at being some other item
04:27 cornernote       like, dig dirt, 1/100 you get mese
04:27 OldCoder         Wait
04:27 OldCoder         Where are changes made?
04:28 cornernote       you would have to make a mod, called my_mod
04:28 OldCoder         Is tsuch a thing available?
04:28 cornernote       and it would contain the overrides for stone dropping tin/minthril/etc
04:28 OldCoder         Is such a thing available?
04:28 cornernote       no, but its like 5 lines of code
04:29 OldCoder         Make it and I will give you skyblock
04:29 cornernote       theres nothing stand alone, that you can just download
04:29 OldCoder         Make it and I will give you skyblock server now
04:29 OldCoder         Setting it up
04:29 cornernote       which mods do you want to support that you can only get the nodes from mapgen ?
04:29 cornernote       eg, moreores, any others ?
04:29 OldCoder         One moment
04:30 cornernote       and what % chance do you want that you get the ore from stone drops
04:30 OldCoder         pasting mods list in a minute
04:30 cornernote       i'll make up an example, and you can tweak it
04:30 OldCoder         Wait
04:30 cornernote       like an example working mod for moreores+skyblock
04:30 OldCoder         http://pastebin.ca/2207096
04:31 cornernote       but, u should play skyblock with no mods 1st
04:31 OldCoder         That is what we have presently
04:31 cornernote       looking
04:32 cornernote       ones that i know of that rely on mapgen are: moreores, gloopores, technic
04:32 OldCoder         Are these mods good in skyblock?
04:32 cornernote       no, skyblock has no mods.. it is a mod
04:32 OldCoder         I mean
04:32 OldCoder         Are these mods good in a skyblock game?
04:33 cornernote       armor - no
04:33 cornernote       bags - its good when you have lots of other mods
04:33 cornernote       home_gui - not useful at all with skyblock, each player has a home
04:33 cornernote       jumping - oh yes that would be fun
04:33 cornernote       mesecons - always fun
04:34 cornernote       flowers - yes, has paths to dyes, therefore wool
04:34 OldCoder         removed armor and home_gui
04:34 cornernote       NekoGloop - i'd have to look more at his mods, but they seem mostly to provide new blocks, some are functional
04:35 cornernote       i been told xfences/gates was good
04:35 cornernote       u should play skyblock with no mods
04:35 cornernote       tomorrow
04:35 OldCoder         ?
04:35 cornernote       see what its all about
04:35 OldCoder         No time left
04:35 OldCoder         Setting it up for others
04:36 cornernote       too busy setting up servers  lol
04:36 OldCoder         Assume armor and home_gui are gone
04:36 OldCoder         That was today
04:36 OldCoder         Did not example a whole day on it
04:36 OldCoder         *expect
04:36 OldCoder         Provide a mod
04:36 OldCoder         and I will run a skyblock
04:36 cornernote       yeah, tweaking takes a lot
04:36 cornernote       just run skyblock with no mods
04:36 OldCoder         You sure?
04:36 cornernote       then add in mods one by one as ppl ask for them
04:37 OldCoder         You sure? We can't use the ones you referred to?
04:37 cornernote       there are 4 levels, 40 tasks
04:37 cornernote       sure, put a couple on, but skyblock doesnt need mods.. its kind of a game of its own... just happenes to be compatible with other mods
04:37 OldCoder         All right
04:37 cornernote       except if they need mapgen
04:37 OldCoder         Sure you don't want to make the mapgen workaround mod?
04:38 cornernote       i will do that soon, because skiblock seems to becoming more stable
04:38 OldCoder         all right
04:38 cornernote       but i need to consider how much ore to give, when to give it, etc
04:38 OldCoder         Very well
04:38 OldCoder         play the first world then
04:38 cornernote       needs to be fun and challenging
04:38 OldCoder         I will back it up periodically
04:52 * VanessaE       peeks in for a sexc
04:52 VanessaE         sec*
04:53 * VanessaE       frowns at the use of the old ironzorg flowers mod (which is slower than mine)
04:53 OldCoder         VanessaE, New servers!
04:54 VanessaE         so I saw
04:54 OldCoder         VanessaE, farming needs Neko flowers
04:54 OldCoder         VanessaE, can you update your mod to work?
04:54 VanessaE         then farming is broken, because neko259's flowers are outdated.
04:54 * OldCoder       shrugs
04:54 VanessaE         mine is included by default in neko259's nature pack now.
04:54 OldCoder         NekoGloop ordered me not to use the nature pack
04:54 OldCoder         Actually
04:55 VanessaE         don't.
04:55 OldCoder         I took the flowers from there
04:55 VanessaE         nature pack is kind of a CPU hog by itself
04:55 OldCoder         Yes
04:55 OldCoder         I took the flowers from there
04:56 VanessaE         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787
04:56 VanessaE         no mention of the word "flower" on the entire page.
04:56 OldCoder         Something needed it
04:56 VanessaE         that's the current farming mod i think./
04:56 VanessaE         well find out what :-)
04:56 OldCoder         I'll figure it out later
04:56 OldCoder         Falling asleep
04:56 VanessaE         ironzorg's flowers are CPU hog
04:56 OldCoder         Setting up a Skyblock world
04:56 OldCoder         Wait then
04:56 OldCoder         Hold on a moment
04:56 VanessaE         they use a manual-implemented-in-Lua method to look for space around a flower.
04:57 OldCoder         Hold on a moment
04:57 VanessaE         mine uses a built-in function in the game for that, which is far faster as it's in C++
04:57 OldCoder         Hold on a moment
04:57 VanessaE         ok
04:57 OldCoder         04:57:35: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "te
04:57 OldCoder         chnic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers".
04:57 OldCoder         04:57:35: ERROR[main]: mod "farming" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers".
04:57 OldCoder         04:57:35: ERROR[main]: mod "unifieddyes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers"
04:57 OldCoder         .
04:58 OldCoder         And if I use yours
04:58 OldCoder         There seems to be a missing API call
04:58 VanessaE         what version of minetest?
04:58 OldCoder         Latest git
04:58 OldCoder         Today
04:58 VanessaE         and what is the URL you got farming from?
04:58 OldCoder         The post
04:58 OldCoder         One moment
04:59 OldCoder         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787
04:59 OldCoder         Doing it again to be sure
05:00 VanessaE         depends.txt in farming github repo still shows no need for flowers.
05:00 OldCoder         Wait
05:01 OldCoder         Wait
05:01 * VanessaE       waits.
05:01 OldCoder         root@ip-10-248-110-223:~# sh ./go
05:01 OldCoder         root@ip-10-248-110-223:~# more log1
05:01 OldCoder         05:01:14: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "te
05:01 OldCoder         chnic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers".
05:01 OldCoder         05:01:14: ERROR[main]: mod "unifieddyes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "flowers"
05:01 OldCoder         .
05:01 OldCoder         Down to these two
05:01 VanessaE         ok
05:01 VanessaE         unified dyes needs flowers to get pigments from
05:01 OldCoder         Yes
05:01 VanessaE         I don't know offhand what technic uses them for
05:01 OldCoder         adding your flowers again
05:01 OldCoder         Hold on
05:01 OldCoder         Wait please
05:02 VanessaE         wait.
05:02 VanessaE         make sure you have the *very* latest.
05:02 OldCoder         Of which?
05:02 VanessaE         https://github.com/VanessaE/flowers/zipball/master
05:02 VanessaE         of my flowers.
05:02 OldCoder         Getting
05:03 OldCoder         I think I had the wrong version of farming
05:03 OldCoder         All set now
05:03 OldCoder         Come and play if you like
05:03 OldCoder         Setting up skyblock
05:03 VanessaE         you might have - I think there are two competing mods by that name
05:03 OldCoder         Ah!
05:03 VanessaE         and--
05:03 OldCoder         That would explain it
05:03 VanessaE         C55 says he's going to add farming to minetest, which guarantees he'll break something :-)
05:04 OldCoder         Huh
05:04 OldCoder         Creating third world
05:06 OldCoder         Running three worlds now
05:06 OldCoder         Preparing web page
05:08 OldCoder
05:08 OldCoder         VanessaE, want to try the main world before leaving?
05:08 NakedFury        would be interesting if there was a way to connect all three, a sort of multiverse. each world has different rules, mods, playstyles, possibly even world types
05:08 VanessaE         sure
05:08 OldCoder         NakedFury, I thought of that
05:08 OldCoder         Both of you:
05:08 OldCoder         Server is develan.com
05:08 OldCoder         Port 30000 is git 0.4.3 with lots of mods
05:08 OldCoder         Port 30001 is stable 0.4.1 with tuxworld
05:08 OldCoder         Port 30002 is git 0.4.3 with skyblock
05:09 OldCoder         Have fun
05:09 VanessaE         connecting... (to 30000)
05:09 VanessaE         downloading media...
05:10 OldCoder         Added speed optimizations
05:10 NakedFury        1 world would be the lobby and from there the player as if an avatar would log into the different worlds
05:10 OldCoder         NakedFury, Yes
05:11 OldCoder         http://pastebin.ca/2207096
05:11 OldCoder         Those are the mods except for farming and flowers
05:11 OldCoder         Switched to different versions
05:12 OldCoder         These worlds will eventually be grief-proof
05:12 OldCoder         VanessaE, I downloaded junglegrass tonight
05:13 khonkhortisan    I spawned on a 1
05:17 khonkhortisan    cool, footsteps!
05:18 OldCoder
05:18 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
05:18 OldCoder         Information ^
05:18 OldCoder
05:19 OldCoder         I can run the M13 and Jordach forks too
05:19 khonkhortisan    ? the 1 killed me?
05:19 VanessaE         footsteps?
05:19 khonkhortisan    yeah, the texture that gets added to grass when you walk on it. On oldcoder's skyblock server
05:19 OldCoder         cornernote is here
05:20 OldCoder         He can answer skyblock questions
05:20 khonkhortisan    I can see the lava from where I dug the first 1
05:21 VanessaE         khonkhortisan: I thought the footsteps was obsolete?
05:21 VanessaE         is that a new mod?
05:21 khonkhortisan    the textures are still around
05:21 VanessaE         yes I know
05:21 VanessaE         I mean having them actually show up, must be a new mod or something
05:21 khonkhortisan    I'm so bad at this
05:22 khonkhortisan    aah! my stuff!
05:22 OldCoder         Does MT have an icon?
05:22 khonkhortisan    yes it does
05:22 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, Link?
05:23 OldCoder         Or is it just on the C55 page?
05:23 OldCoder         I'll add a script to back these worlds up
05:23 OldCoder         Found the icon
05:23 khonkhortisan    it's the big one on minetest.net, minetest in my games menu has the same icon
05:23 OldCoder         Yes
05:23 OldCoder         Got it; thanks
05:24 OldCoder         Feel free to create; within a day or two the worlds should be griefproof
05:24 khonkhortisan    if I die too many times will I have used up all the spawn points?
05:24 khonkhortisan    And what's my goal?
05:24 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, ask cornernote
05:24 OldCoder         Wait
05:25 OldCoder         There is a page for this
05:25 khonkhortisan    (lag)
05:25 khonkhortisan    I'm going to have to relearn all the recipes
05:26 OldCoder         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=795
05:26 OldCoder         Skyblock thread ^
05:26 cornernote       sorry, just got here
05:27 OldCoder         cornernote, You have a skyblock player
05:27 cornernote       let me read history
05:27 OldCoder         khonkhortisan
05:27 khonkhortisan    I see four 1 nodes, two I've already used, one I'm standing on
05:27 cornernote       punch it (quick punch)
05:27 cornernote       then it tells you your goals
05:27 cornernote       right click it, and it opens up
05:27 cornernote       like a chest
05:27 khonkhortisan    oh right click!
05:28 cornernote       long punch it, and it makes you restart
05:28 khonkhortisan    how do I dig a clay lump?
05:28 cornernote       eg, if you get stuck and need to start over
05:28 khonkhortisan    accidentally starting over counts as losing
05:28 cornernote       you need to make clay fron dirt
05:29 NakedFury        inside game oldman
05:29 cornernote       i should make it not let you restart if you have not used any of your default items
05:29 khonkhortisan    oh that says coal lump not clay lump
05:29 cornernote       cos i think thats the default action, dig the "1" block
05:30 cornernote       coal you make with stone + coal lump
05:30 cornernote       it doubles it
05:30 cornernote       then you dig it, and double it again
05:30 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, Do me a favor and make a screenshot
05:30 OldCoder         If time permits
05:30 OldCoder         Skyblock
05:30 khonkhortisan    screenshot of how I lost?
05:30 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, Any good Skyblock scene
05:30 khonkhortisan    I can give you a bad scene
05:30 OldCoder         :-) Fine
05:33 NakedFury        oldcoder unknown block a few paces from you
05:34 OldCoder         NakedFury, Oh?
05:34 OldCoder         NakedFury, this is raw git
05:34 OldCoder         Bound to be a few glitches
05:34 khonkhortisan    had to restart the upload
05:34 khonkhortisan    http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8018594950/in/photostream/lightbox/
05:34 khonkhortisan    corner note already has a tree
05:35 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, thx
05:35 khonkhortisan    and a chest
05:35 khonkhortisan    he's making me look bad
05:51 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
05:51 OldCoder         Falling asleep. Feel free to share that link.
05:51 OldCoder         Zzz
06:00 cy1              welp, so much for that server.
06:00 khonkhortisan    hehe I dug everything but the lava and the lag hasn't caught up
06:00 TiredCoder       cy1, ?
06:00 khonkhortisan    it froze
06:00 TiredCoder       Oh?
06:00 TiredCoder       Skyblock?
06:00 TiredCoder       Main is still running
06:00 khonkhortisan    digging jungletree didn't give me the dig_tree achievement
06:00 cy1              Main... what?
06:00 TiredCoder       cy1, see this page:
06:01 TiredCoder       http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
06:01 cornernote       VanessaE, skyblock uses dirt with grass and footsteps
06:01 TiredCoder       Three servers
06:01 cornernote       whoa
06:01 cornernote       sorry, i was scrolled way up
06:01 cornernote       :S
06:01 TiredCoder       Should I restart server #3?
06:01 khonkhortisan    I do that too
06:01 TiredCoder       Is it hung?
06:01 cornernote       i think it may be
06:01 khonkhortisan    I'm still floating under my lava
06:01 TiredCoder       We'll need to see if it's a git issue
06:01 cornernote       i cant put anything in craft
06:02 cy1              TiredCoder: cannot connect to server
06:02 khonkhortisan    and a reconnect doesn't work
06:02 cy1              maybe lava flowing made too much processing?
06:02 khonkhortisan    I think it was the special crafting recipes
06:02 TiredCoder       Restarted
06:02 TiredCoder       I can add autorestart later
06:03 cy1              thankee
06:03 TiredCoder       Some sort of watchdog timer
06:03 TiredCoder       So you can debug the lockups
06:03 khonkhortisan    yuck, falling leaves
06:03 khonkhortisan    where's RealBadAngel?
06:04 cy1              ehe I'm a watchdog timer!
06:04 RealBadAngel     cannot rejoin
06:04 TiredCoder       cy1, Then I will need to give you a way
06:04 khonkhortisan    try now
06:04 TiredCoder       RealBadAngel, wb
06:04 cornernote       but u dont want to auto-restart
06:04 TiredCoder       cornernote, we will discuss it i m tired now
06:04 cornernote       or ppl will have to keep reconnecting for no reason
06:04 RealBadAngel     is 30004 down?
06:04 TiredCoder       RealBadAngel, see the linked page
06:04 cornernote       kk
06:04 TiredCoder       RealBadAngel, it is only on 30000 to 30002 so far
06:04 cornernote       u were off to bed 2 hours ago!
06:04 TiredCoder       yes
06:04 TiredCoder       time to slp
06:04 khonkhortisan    Due to a bug, it takes luck to complete SkyBlock.
06:04 RealBadAngel     i were logged on skyblock :(
06:04 TiredCoder       we will need to fix
06:05 TiredCoder       RealBadAngel, hmm?
06:05 RealBadAngel     booo
06:05 cornernote       khonkhortisan, which bug ?
06:05 * TiredCoder     is confuzed
06:05 TiredCoder       all will be fixed
06:05 cornernote       jungletree ?
06:05 TiredCoder       Hey nice sunset
06:05 khonkhortisan    yes, jungletree requires luck
06:05 RealBadAngel     i played with skyblock, eved planted 2 more trees already
06:05 cornernote       i'll fix it now
06:05 TiredCoder       RealBadAngel, world is still there
06:06 TiredCoder       RealBadAngel, mods *must* be installed in the game for now
06:06 TiredCoder       Will figure it out another time
06:06 TiredCoder       all three worlds seem to run
06:06 RealBadAngel     i gonna play a bit on skyblock
06:06 TiredCoder       have fun
06:06 RealBadAngel     its fun as hell
06:06 TiredCoder       but skyblock locks up
06:06 TiredCoder       we will need to fix it
06:06 TiredCoder       no provision for autorestart
06:06 TiredCoder       yet
06:06 RealBadAngel     im goin to work now, so i hope to join later :)
06:06 TiredCoder       anybody wants a good world mirrored let me know
06:06 TiredCoder       ttyl
06:06 RealBadAngel     when got back
06:07 cy1              I suspect that minetest may overload its servers if blocks are not generated, in a sort of endless "generate plz" loop.
06:08 TiredCoder       bad
06:08 cornernote       bug is fixed in git, jungletree now gives dig_tree reward
06:08 TiredCoder       $$$ for me
06:08 TiredCoder       cornernote, I will update tomorrow then
06:08 cornernote       OldCoder, update it tomorrow, not now
06:08 cornernote       go sleep
06:08 cy1              thanks TiredCoder this is p. fun
06:08 TiredCoder       I am seeing 90% load
06:08 cornernote       go on
06:08 cornernote       get
06:08 cornernote       =)
06:08 TiredCoder       One question
06:08 TiredCoder       Should I leave skyblock server running? Is 90% load normal?
06:08 cy1              uh, not normal no
06:09 khonkhortisan    I got my achievement after restarting
06:09 cy1              I'll run skyblock locally if I want to continue to screw around.
06:09 cornernote       wonder why its spiking
06:09 cy1              khonkhortisan can chat with me here
06:09 TiredCoder       It's continuous
06:09 cy1              cornernote: it is a mystery
06:09 TiredCoder       I better kill that one for tonight
06:09 TiredCoder       $$$
06:09 cornernote       ok
06:09 cy1              sleep well
06:10 cy1              while he's gone, come on my server! It's not skyblock, but has some fun things.
06:10 khonkhortisan    my screen froze except for the yaw =
06:11 khonkhortisan    oh.
06:12 cy1              I'm holding off on restarting since it'll pile in mobs and armor then
06:13 cy1              but I've managed to get it so mobs don't ignore armor, and it ain't crashing derpworld anymore!
06:13 khonkhortisan    I have an improved way of making the pyramid where it's climbable, made smaller with stairsplus
06:13 cy1              ooh, neat
06:14 cy1              I don't have xfences yet, sorry.
06:14 khonkhortisan    ?
06:14 cornernote       cy1 whats your server ?  is there a forum thread ?
06:14 khonkhortisan    verge.info.tm 6989
06:14 cy1              cornernote: no, I haven't put it on the forum just IRC
06:14 cornernote       what country ?
06:14 khonkhortisan    it's not really greif-proof, now is it?
06:15 cy1              Cascadia!
06:15 cy1              khonkhortisan: well, hourly backups.
06:15 cy1              if I start getting griefed I'll just take away default interact
06:15 cy1              then restore a backup
06:16 cy1              or a piece of a backup or w/ev
06:16 khonkhortisan    bye-bye great pyramid
06:16 cy1              nooooooook
06:16 cornernote       what about the new rollback features ?
06:16 cy1              pfff those suck
06:16 khonkhortisan    Should I make the smaller one before deleting the original?
06:16 cy1              cornernote: that's why all the servers have been lagging so much recently
06:17 cy1              khonkhortisan: whatever you do, make it away from that goddamned sponge that makes my framerate cry
06:17 cy1              why sponge, why must you be so beautiful T_T
06:18 cy1              cornernote: any luck?
06:34 cornernote       i got in, but i was on the phone so had to pause
06:34 cornernote       then it dropped, reconnecting now
06:34 cornernote       i went through your cobble hypercube
06:35 cornernote       then under the sea
06:36 cy1              cornernote: <3
06:37 cy1              it's a cobble Menger sponge
06:37 cy1              4-iterations
06:37 cy1              khonkhortisan made it. I filled it w/ water because pretty.
06:37 cy1              not one of my smartest ideas...
06:38 cy1              amazing thing he's done is figure how to make a Menger pyramid! Just out of blocks!
06:42 cy1              ..........ok mental note don't displace water with fire on a wooden structure
06:42 khonkhortisan    you burned it?!:)
06:42 cy1              I was trying to make the water go away!
06:43 khonkhortisan    Remember the structure?
06:43 cy1              I'll try to recreate.
07:01 cornernote       its too laggy =(
07:22 cornernote       i was trying to think of a better way to give initial instructions to skyblock players
07:22 cornernote       i was thinking perhaps they should start with the level 1 block in their inventory
07:23 cornernote       or an "instructions sign" maybe
07:23 khonkhortisan    then when they misplace the 1 and want to move it they lose. That's the same difficulty as moving a filled chest
07:23 cornernote       and that sign contains the leaves and stick to make the first sapling
07:24 cornernote       what about the sign ?
07:24 cornernote       or other ideas
07:24 cornernote       im open to any suggestion
07:24 khonkhortisan    I tried making a checker out of dirt and clay, and leaves and clay, and it didn't do anything
07:25 cornernote       a checker ?
07:25 khonkhortisan    yeah like moreblocks, I think
07:25 cornernote       thats not in skyblock
07:26 cornernote       or am i not following what you are saying ?
07:26 khonkhortisan    I was trying different recipes because I hadn't found the sapling yet
07:50 khonkhortisan    Where's a good place to mention recipe conflicts between mods?
07:50 VanessaE         on the forum thread for whoseever mod it was that came later.
07:51 VanessaE         whoever's
08:15 cornernote       VanessaE, i should do that idea you suggested with the gamewiki and make a page that shows all the recipe conflicts
08:15 cornernote       load all the mods i can find in the forums
08:15 VanessaE         it would be useful, if you can code it simply enough
08:15 cornernote       then make a post with all the conflicts, let the active devs sort it out
08:15 VanessaE         (I'd hate to suggest something that would end up being a bitch to code)
08:16 cornernote       or post to the mods that are most likley to change them
08:16 VanessaE         that's a better idea.
08:17 VanessaE         I think I have one or two minor conflicts in homedecor for example, but I don't remember against what :)
08:45 VanessaE         bbl
09:26 Calinou          almost finished technic support to misa pack
09:26 Calinou          misa pack -- now supporting CPU hogs! :D
09:32 Calinou          http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44270#p44270
09:32 Calinou          rofl
10:00 VanessaE         Calinou: any chance of getting quarter-thick slabs? (that is, half the thickness of an existing slab - could be crafted by placing three slabs side-by-side in the grid maybe)
10:00 Calinou          meh... not very useful
10:00 Calinou          can't imagine any usage for them
10:00 VanessaE         tabletops, countertops
10:01 Calinou          hmm, ok then :P
10:09 Calinou          done, stairs+ update out
10:09 Calinou          done in 8 minutes :D
10:09 VanessaE         cool :-)
10:12 VanessaE         now let's see how much effort it takes to get redcrab to upgrade his copy :-)
10:30 cornernote       VanessaE, only found 1 conflict in homedecor
10:30 cornernote       shingles conflicts with hardwood from building blocks
10:31 VanessaE         ah right
10:31 VanessaE         what would be a good replacement?
10:31 cornernote       a non-single node recipe
10:31 cornernote       wood+tree
10:32 cornernote       wood tree, tree wood
10:32 VanessaE         maybe,
10:32 VanessaE         - - -
10:32 VanessaE         W S -
10:32 VanessaE         S W -
10:32 VanessaE         S = Stick, W = Wood
10:32 cornernote       yep
10:32 cornernote       perfect
10:32 cornernote       2 node recipies are much less likely to conflict
10:33 VanessaE         testing the changes...
10:33 cornernote       then there is really old mods that conflict...
10:34 cornernote       moreblocks and building_blocks
10:34 cornernote       brick and moreblocks
10:34 cornernote       castle_wall appears to do the same slabs as stairsplus
10:35 cornernote       metals seems to be completely replaced by streets, pipeworks, etc
10:35 VanessaE         changes pushed.
10:35 cornernote       thanks VanessaE
10:36 VanessaE         pipeworks' recipes are really kinda temporary
10:36 cornernote       no, i mean the nodes replace why you would need metals
10:36 VanessaE         ohh
10:36 cornernote       the recipies in metals conflict with a lot of other mods
10:36 VanessaE         tright
10:37 cornernote       so im going to pull it, i think its obsolete
10:37 cornernote       moreblocks is Calinou, and its recent
10:38 cornernote       conflicts with brick mod - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1631
10:38 cornernote       i think i'll pull support for brick mod too
10:38 cornernote       seems like there are better mods to replace it now
10:41 VanessaE         unified bricks > brick mod :-)
10:45 VanessaE         jeez the game is crashy today
12:11 TiredCoder       Back
12:19 cornernote       wb
12:36 pskosinski       Is here any servers hosteeeeeer? I can see how many resources server is using empty, but no idea how many with players...
12:36 pskosinski       And Calinou's server segfaulted my Minetest..
12:38 pskosinski       Btw. Sand monster from SimpleMobs mod is deadly dangerous. -.- Can take all hearts. -.- You can kill him with a few hits but also 50 can be not enough. -.-
12:44 mika__           hi
12:46 cornernote       pskosinski - yes, and if there are 20 of them chasing you its not much fun
12:46 cornernote       cos u could be in for 1000 clicks to kill them
12:49 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
12:49 OldCoder         Updated
12:49 OldCoder         Skyblocks server is running again
12:50 OldCoder         Cloned new Skyblocks code from git
12:50 OldCoder         cornernote, cy1
12:50 OldCoder         Encourage people to try Skyblocks as I need to know if CPU load will kick in
12:51 OldCoder         Also feel free to share maps from old or new worlds
12:51 OldCoder         As I will keep old servers alive and running
12:51 OldCoder
13:08 cornernote       >> This copy of armor includes a NekoGloop patch
13:08 cornernote       which patch ?
13:08 cornernote       i never saw any patch
13:13 OldCoder         cornernote, He made it yesterday. I'll provide you with a copy. Or he can.
13:13 OldCoder         It's minor. Back in a bit.
13:13 * OldCoder       back soon
13:48 OldCoder         Back
13:50 OldCoder         cornernote, I'm using default settings except for the speedup changes you gave me. I'll check to see about the rollback issue.
13:50 OldCoder
13:51 OldCoder         Others: Is the consensus that rollback should be disabled to reduce lagging? I'm backing up so maybe it isn't needed
14:36 Mikeonline       hu
14:36 sfan5            hi
14:37 iqualfragile     hi
14:44 PilzAdam         Hello everyone!
14:44 Mikeonline       PilzAdam!
14:44 PilzAdam         sup
14:45 Mikeonline       modding stuff ;)
14:45 Mikeonline       and hungry
14:45 Mikeonline       want eat pilz :D
14:45 PilzAdam         :-D
14:45 PilzAdam         [16:45] <Mikeonline> modding stuff ;) + [16:45] <Mikeonline> and hungry = food mod?
14:48 OldCoder         PilzAdam, Your mods work fine
14:48 PilzAdam         cool
14:48 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
14:48 OldCoder         Updated ^
14:49 iqualfragile     http://ibash.de/zitat_55755.html
14:49 OldCoder         PilzAdam, people like the Papyrus Bed
14:49 iqualfragile     yes, they do!
14:49 iqualfragile     oldcoder: please use a different backgoundimmage
14:49 Mikeonline       no :D
14:49 OldCoder         ?
14:49 OldCoder         Consensus please :-)
14:49 iqualfragile     it pains
14:50 OldCoder         iqualfragile, Very well. Link to other good ones
14:50 iqualfragile     #000000
14:50 OldCoder         Hmm
14:50 OldCoder         Maybe translucent water
14:50 OldCoder         Barely visible
14:50 OldCoder         The site is due for an overhaul soon anyway
14:50 OldCoder         Will look into it then
14:52 iqualfragile     or just remove the immage alltogether and continue the picture from above (just delete     background: url(water.jpg) repeat; from style.css line 194
14:52 iqualfragile     )
14:53 iqualfragile     and border-top
14:53 Exio             hey PilzAdam, a small/big "feature request", flying mobs :P
14:53 PilzAdam         i see no need to add them
14:53 OldCoder         iqualfragile, I know how to delete the background and may do so. Thank you. There is a new theme coming in October. I will review at the time.
14:53 Exio             hm, k
14:54 OldCoder         Busy ATM Trying to reproduce and document all the MT stuff I did in the past 24 hours
14:54 iqualfragile     well, i could have guessed that, it looks like you wrote it all on your own, but i was looking at it anyways
14:54 OldCoder         iqualfragile, I am grateful
14:54 OldCoder         iqualfragile, I mean, I am rebuilding my AWS EC2 virtual machine
14:55 OldCoder         The one running the three MT servers now
14:55 OldCoder         Need to get all the patches and mods documented
14:55 OldCoder         Before I forget
14:56 iqualfragile     jup, thats important
15:03 OldCoder         Jordach, hello
15:03 Jordach          OldCoder, hello
15:03 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
15:03 OldCoder         Jordach, Your fork can go there too
15:03 OldCoder         But you'll need to debug the segfaults
15:04 Jordach          kay
15:04 * Jordach        is tired
15:05 OldCoder         Oh?
15:07 Jordach          OldCoder, my coffee energy went two hours ago
15:07 OldCoder         k
15:09 Jordach          OldCoder, would you like to test my server?
15:09 Jordach          (0.4.3)
15:09 OldCoder         Hmm?
15:09 OldCoder         Explain
15:09 OldCoder         You are running a general 0.4.3 server? If so I will test clients against it later on
15:09 Jordach          oddly, a minetestserver instance is faster than using singleplayer or advanced
15:09 OldCoder         ATM I am rebuilding a MT EC2
15:09 OldCoder         k
15:10 Jordach          and so connecting using 127.0.0.1 is faster, since the spu is now shared
15:10 Jordach          s/spu/cpu
15:14 Jordach          PilzAdam - i found a farming mod glitch
15:15 PilzAdam         so?
15:15 Jordach          jump on a tiny pumpkin
15:15 Jordach          then walk into the next step up pumpkin
15:15 Jordach          sound errors happen
15:17 PilzAdam         have you a fix?
15:19 Jordach          no.
15:19 Jordach          its another engine bug
15:22 Jordach          does one get points for a 503?
15:31 Jordach          OldCoder, can you sacrifice the port 30002
15:32 Jordach          i have this nice set of mods - that are used on some servers
15:34 Jordach          bacon works! ?!?!?
15:40 OldCoder         Hi
15:40 OldCoder         Jordach, I can run more servers. What do you need?
15:40 Jordach          i have a server of mine that i would like 24/7
15:41 Jordach          (well my local one)
15:41 OldCoder         Jordach, What is unique about it? If the mods I can add them to the main server
15:41 Jordach          i changed farming to stop the errors
15:41 Jordach          maptools is changed
15:41 Jordach          and a couple of customs
15:41 OldCoder         Can you get the changes merged into masters?
15:41 Jordach          no.
15:41 Jordach          these are different
15:41 OldCoder         Go on; I am interested
15:41 OldCoder         Explain
15:42 Jordach          these dont exist anywhere else
15:42 OldCoder         Is all of this 0.4.3 compatible?
15:42 Jordach          yes
15:42 Jordach          however i like my world
15:42 OldCoder         Which world?
15:42 OldCoder         Sounds good so far
15:42 Jordach          xbar is new
15:43 OldCoder         Jordach, you have prepared a set of mods
15:43 Jordach          no
15:44 OldCoder         I am confused. Clarify.
15:44 OldCoder         You have modified and/or new mods. True or false?
15:44 OldCoder         I can have this running quickly. But explain.
15:44 Jordach          yes
15:45 Jordach          i plan on finishing igneous rocks
15:45 Jordach          (i have the generation done, need some kewl ass crafts)
15:46 OldCoder         Jordach, very well. Then do this:
15:46 OldCoder         Prepare a text file that lists all of the mods involved. Modifications to existing ones. New ones. What you do that is interested. ZIP up a set. Send me the text file and the ZIP.
15:46 OldCoder
15:46 OldCoder         The text file is your entry fee. It is the useful part.
15:47 OldCoder         *that is interesting
15:53 Jordach          OldCoder, im going to pull a youtube video up
15:53 Jordach          s/pull/put
15:53 OldCoder         No time for videos ATM
15:53 OldCoder         But I can chat
16:02 Jordach          ANYONE IN HERE wanna do some lets play
16:03 OldCoder         ?
16:05 * Jordach        eats hula hoops (like potato chips, just in the shape of hula hoops)
16:07 Jordach          rubenwardy, sup
16:09 rubenwardy       hi
16:12 Jordach          i have guide that makes the "world and server" side of minetest run a little bit quicker
16:12 Jordach          involves .bat files and some tricks
16:12 Jordach          but nothing special
16:14 iqualfragile     well, tell us
16:14 thexyz           .bat files? windows?
16:15 thexyz           i have a better guide
16:15 thexyz           step 0) remove windows, install some OS
16:20 iqualfragile     oh, i must have skipped that
16:21 Jordach          thexyz stop trolling
16:21 Mikeonline       hm someone knows how to concatenate string+variable in lua?
16:21 thexyz           why do you all think that's trolling?
16:21 Jordach          you cant
16:21 Jordach          [17:21:39] <thexyz> why do you all think that's trolling? : OVER advocation
16:22 Jordach          and being unrelated to the operating system
16:22 thexyz           Mikeonline: > s = "test"..3
16:22 thexyz           > = s
16:22 thexyz           test3
16:22 Mikeonline       minetest.chat_send_player(placer:get_player_name(), "You can not place nodes here.")
16:22 Jordach          ths is for windows users, who think this is slow.
16:22 Mikeonline       to i type here "foo"..pos ?
16:22 Mikeonline       ah
16:22 thexyz           Mikeonline: not pos, but something like pos.x.." "..pos.y.." "..pos.z
16:23 Mikeonline       so message = "foobar"..pos.x.." "..pos.y.." "..pos.z
16:23 Jordach          hi Calinou
16:23 Mikeonline       and i need to make a variable? or can i put this into the function?
16:23 thexyz           Jordach: then why can't you simply write how to do it? without asking whether we need that or not
16:23 Jordach          http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44374#p44374
16:24 Jordach          this effectively makes two cpud loads, so that irrlicht cant interfere with "server / map" memory
16:24 OldCoder         TheLastProject, Jordach: If you have optimization tricks which are the most important?
16:24 OldCoder         Oops
16:25 OldCoder         I meant thexyz not TheLastProject
16:25 TheLastProject   Don't worry, I'm used to that happening :P
16:25 TheLastProject   "the" is a dangerous way to start a nickname :P
16:25 OldCoder         Yes
16:25 OldCoder         thexyz, hello and here's a link:
16:25 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
16:25 OldCoder         Ha
16:25 TheJordach       >:D
16:25 * TheJordach     considers changing forums name
16:26 Jordach          ^_^
16:26 thexyz           OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/254
16:26 thexyz           haven't tested it though
16:27 Mikeonline       thexyz can i put "foo"..var into the chat_send function or do i have to make the parameter a variable first?
16:27 Calinou          TheLastProject == TLP == the little pony
16:27 thexyz           Mikeonline: why can't you test it before asking? yes, you can
16:27 Calinou          hence, don't use "the"
16:27 Calinou          8D
16:27 Jordach          thexyz, tried it on ubuntu, does work, even when using fast and fluy
16:27 * TheLastProject meows =^.^=
16:28 Mikeonline       i test
16:28 thexyz           Ld
16:28 thexyz           OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3005
16:28 thexyz           fuck my keyboard
16:28 OldCoder         Reviewing
16:28 thexyz           somebody should make him release that mysql patch
16:29 Calinou          BRACE YOURSELVES
16:29 Calinou          THEXYZ HAS FOUND ANOTHER SECURITY HOLE
16:29 OldCoder         Hmm
16:29 thexyz           Calinou: wat?
16:29 Calinou          :p
16:30 Jordach          Calinou, your humor is "killing" me
16:30 * Calinou        kills Jordach so that his humor doesn't kill him again
16:30 Jordach          s/his/my
16:30 OldCoder         thexyz, it seems like a worthwhile idea
16:30 Jordach          mysql is EVIL
16:31 * Jordach        hates my email
16:31 Jordach          s/my his own
16:31 Jordach          s/s/my his own/my/his own
16:32 Jordach          sedception
16:32 Mikeonline       thexyz: thank you very much, it works fine!
16:32 rubenwardy       (5:15:08 PM) thexyz: step 0) remove windows, install some OS         Some server hosters may be young and so dont have permission to install linux on their computer, or in other cases do not have the knowledge or do not want too
16:33 OldCoder         rubenwardy, VM is still possible in some cases
16:35 Calinou          "Some server hosters may be young and so dont have permission to install linux on their computer"
16:35 Calinou          *laughs*
16:35 rubenwardy       ikr
16:35 Calinou          step 0) remove windows, install some OS  < did you accidentally some words? :P
16:35 rubenwardy       *Some*
16:35 Calinou          or just trolling :P
16:35 Calinou          OldCoder: VMs are terribly slow
16:35 Calinou          as long as you're on a computer with a BIOS, dualboot is safe 95% of the time
16:36 OldCoder         Calinou: Yes. mrtux seems to do all right. It's surprising as he as only 512MB RAM.
16:36 Calinou          this percentage falls to (1 divided by 95)% with UEFI
16:36 Calinou          :>
16:36 thexyz           Calinou: UEFI can emulate BIOS
16:36 OldCoder         *has
16:36 Calinou          thexyz: what about vendor locks?
16:36 Calinou          you can't remove them, and there are more and more of them today
16:36 thexyz           Calinou: never have seen them
16:36 Jordach          lolWindows8
16:36 Calinou          Jordach: there are vendor locks with win7 already
16:36 thexyz           some securboot shit?
16:36 Calinou          some computer assemblers have been known to do that
16:36 Jordach          lolMicrosoftBulShit
16:37 Calinou          not secureboot, not really
16:37 Jordach          lolOEMNonLinuxFans
16:37 Calinou          Jordach: buy the same computer more expensive, without an OS
16:37 Jordach          Calinou
16:37 Calinou          linux is terrible as a main OS btw, if you plan on using proprietary drivers
16:37 Calinou          being locked to 50hz isn't fun
16:37 Calinou          :>
16:37 Jordach          my acer aspire does fine
16:37 Calinou          (or to i386..)
16:37 Calinou          lol, linux on a laptop
16:37 Calinou          HI IM BACKLIGHT
16:37 Calinou          I DONT WORK
16:37 Jordach          x86 FTW
16:38 Calinou          same thing happens with both i386 and amd64
16:38 Calinou          i386 is terrible anyway
16:38 Jordach          Calinou, i run ubuntu64bit
16:38 Calinou          lolubuntu
16:38 Jordach          on a pentium4
16:38 Jordach          PENTIUM 4
16:38 Calinou          I know
16:38 Jordach          my bios has no 64bit support
16:39 Jordach          idk why it works
16:39 Calinou          typing boot sequences is fun
16:39 Jordach          ...it just does
16:41 thexyz           Calinou: btw, what planet are you from?
16:41 Calinou          earth
16:41 thexyz           linux works just fine at my asus u36jc
16:41 thexyz           (except that optimus thing)
16:41 Calinou          still, we have no decent GPU company as of today
16:42 Calinou          nvidia makes drivers with one arm, amd makes drivers while being drunk
16:42 Jordach          Calinou. nVidia is fine
16:42 Jordach          ive had not troubles with Linux or Windows
16:42 Jordach          s/not/no
16:42 Calinou          yay 50hz
16:42 thexyz           Jordach: no, fuck them
16:42 Calinou          point is: amd isn't better
16:42 Calinou          open drivers are slow as always
16:42 thexyz           fuck amd too
16:43 Calinou          proprietary ones suck
16:43 Jordach          thexyz, you need to learn that you must pay sometimes
16:43 thexyz           Jordach: what?
16:43 Jordach          one does not simply get food for free
16:43 Jordach          nor does one get seeds for free
16:43 Jordach          everything has a cost.
16:43 thexyz           tell me now, where can i buy decent nvidia drivers for linux?
16:43 Jordach          its on the disc
16:43 Calinou          they are the same
16:44 Calinou          since when there are linux drivers on a disk?
16:44 Calinou          and manufacturer-provided drivers break everything
16:44 Jordach          Calinou, my wireless dongle has them
16:44 Calinou          Jordach: have fun updating X
16:44 Jordach          (my upstairs tower)
16:44 Jordach          Calinou, i had to compile them with make install
16:45 Jordach          updating drivers are usually bullshit, they generally break everything
16:45 Calinou          how can you compile proprietary stuff? tell me your secret
16:45 Jordach          Calinou, its a usb dongle with some driver, they have no install for linux since .rpm, .deb, .bullshit
16:46 Jordach          so make install does this fine
16:46 Calinou          people need to stop trolling about package management; don't like it, use winblows then, it has no package management
16:46 Calinou          make install: "I CAN HAS SUDO"
16:46 Calinou          :|
16:47 Jordach          its funny really, if the ethernet port is fucked, and gcc is not installed, and the built in driver fails, then you are fucked
16:47 thexyz           Jordach: what's that dongle's name?
16:47 Jordach          thexyz, something from eBay
16:47 thexyz           Jordach: no, all you need is to boot from livecd/livedvd and fix it
16:47 Jordach          no clue what make though
16:48 Jordach          thexyz, UPDATE FOR MYSQL http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44389#p44389
16:50 thexyz           Jordach: yep, looking at it..
16:50 Jordach          ^ one happy troll
16:55 Jordach          ive learned that it is possible to live by foss rules and use ms / apple items
16:55 Calinou          haha, no
16:57 Jordach          Calinou, FOSS for office, images, music, but for anything else, such as document scanning, taking photos, usb gamepads, and the like all are non free
16:57 Calinou          I know
16:57 Calinou          marktraceur begs to differ with his FOSS-zealot-ready music player
16:57 Calinou          :>
17:00 Jordach          the problem to FOSS is the hardware, and output devices
17:00 Jordach          even hdds are non free
17:01 Jordach          you wanna be FOSS - have no computer
17:07 Calinou          you wanna be FOSS - don't leave
17:08 Calinou          FOSS assumes patent-free
17:08 Calinou          live*
17:09 thexyz           nobody wanna be foss
17:09 thexyz           except some crazy guys
17:10 thexyz           oh, btw, that wieszak's patch works just fine
17:16 * Calinou        got an idea
17:17 Calinou          why not create a fork of minetest where several people can commit/pull stuff in (eg. thexyz, vanessae, jordach)?
17:17 Calinou          mostly for fun, for people who want more stuff in game :p
17:17 thexyz           Calinou: what stuff do you need in engine?
17:17 Calinou          not much; this would allow fixes to be pulled in more early
17:17 thexyz           and, btw, c55 remains the only who commits engine code
17:17 Calinou          such as apples in map generation
17:17 Calinou          thexyz: I said a fork
17:18 thexyz           also, personally i'm too lazy to do it
17:18 thexyz           see what happened with BP
17:18 Calinou          not the same thing, just don't let death dealer touch it
17:18 Calinou          :p
17:19 Jordach          [18:17:56] <Calinou> such as apples in map generation - i fixed that
17:19 Calinou          yes, but it's not in upstream
17:20 Jordach          (in fact, realisticly, apples generate randomly, not like how it used to be with patches over a area)
17:25 Jordach          181.fm has some nice stuff
17:25 Jordach          then nekogloop joins
17:25 thexyz           Jordach: http://www.linux.fm/
17:27 khonkhortisan    oops my lava turned to stone in skyblock
17:29 Jordach          http://soundcloud.com/jordach/hardcore-metal-mario
17:29 T_A_N_K          good day
17:30 Jordach          good day sir
17:30 NekoGloop        redcrab is down?
17:30 Jordach          NekoGloop, no clue
17:30 rubenwardy|brb   yeah, it says "client disconnected"
17:30 * Jordach        is listening to john cougar
17:31 OldCoder         NekoGloop, hi: http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
17:31 Jordach          OldCoder, gimme five mins to finish off
17:31 NekoGloop        xfences is by thexyz
17:31 NekoGloop        dont list it as my mod
17:31 OldCoder         Already changed
17:31 OldCoder         Which one do you mean?
17:32 OldCoder         NekoGloop, armor? He merged your patch and I'll edit the page shortly
17:33 * Jordach        has journey - dont stop beliving on
17:35 NekoGloop        also, papyrus_bed is ragnarok's mod, not pilzadam's mod
17:35 OldCoder         I  know
17:35 OldCoder         NekoGloop, already edited in my copy and will update page soon
17:35 OldCoder         NekoGloop, I am rebuilding my AWS EC2 from scratch ATM and documenting everything
17:35 Jordach          REDCRABS SERVER http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44402#p44402
17:35 Jordach          its upto something
17:35 Jordach          dunno what, but the perm "buckets" seems like so
17:38 NekoGloop        damn node_ownership
17:38 NekoGloop        that mod needs to burn in hell
17:38 redcrab          Yep I introduce new perm ... "bucket" to be able to drop bucket content on unprotected area ... without this permission you still can drop bucket content on your allowed areas
17:38 NekoGloop        redcrab: what i just said.
17:39 Jordach          redcrab, can you format the pixel art server?
17:39 redcrab          format ?
17:39 Jordach          turn it into a free public server
17:39 Jordach          (kray.di.fy should be, but..)
17:39 redcrab          to make it same as 30401 ?
17:39 Jordach          without the node owner
17:39 redcrab          or same as the 0.3.1 chaos server :)
17:39 Jordach          i also have a list of mods you might want
17:40 NekoGloop        goddammit
17:40 NekoGloop        half of my town is supposedly owned by kinggorilla
17:43 T_A_N_K          i need help fixing all these issues in minetest
17:44 T_A_N_K          i'm about to make a video about it, there are so many issues i'm going to bring up >.<
17:46 NekoGloop        redcrab, fix this issue with the damn node_ownership
17:48 khonkhortisan    Is there any way to build down in skyblock?
17:50 T_A_N_K          yes
17:50 T_A_N_K          water
17:50 redcrab          NekoGloop : What issue ?
17:50 NekoGloop        the fact half my land is supposedly owned by kinggorilla
17:51 OldCoder         I will be shutting down my servers to move them shortly
17:51 Calinou          kinggorilla is a griefer
17:51 Calinou          <redcrab> Yep I introduce new perm ... "bucket" to be able to drop bucket content on unprotected area ... without this permission you still can drop bucket content on your allowed areas
17:51 Calinou          this should go into default game (perhaps "no_bucket" for less confusion)
17:51 Calinou          :P
17:52 redcrab          Is not a issue of node protection ... it is an administrative issue ... kinggorilla requested an area that was accepted .. I may search and try to remove the requested protected area
17:52 * Calinou        almost finished technic mod support in misa pack
17:54 redcrab          NekoGloop : I ve remove a owned kinggorilla protected area ... can you check if it is ok now ?
17:54 NekoGloop        oh sure
17:55 NekoGloop        after i run across half the map.
17:55 redcrab          I did it because I trust in Calinou warning .. ;)
17:55 T_A_N_K          http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cqLWe3ta
17:55 Calinou          I banned him (and his alt account f4ceride) on my server
17:55 Calinou          Morrolan: since when you come in this channel? :P
17:55 Calinou          btw: don't use away nicks
17:56 Morrolan         Sod off.
17:56 Morrolan         And since, err, not too long, but more than a few days.
17:56 Calinou          k
17:56 khonkhortisan    What do I do after level 10 in skyblock?
17:57 Calinou          say "OMG, I DID IT, IM THE 500TH GUY TO HAVE DONE THIS"
17:57 Calinou          this will offer you access to level 11
17:57 OldCoder         Octupus, Hello. New servers are running.
17:57 khonkhortisan    Well I'm only level 9 so far
17:57 Octupus          Hell
17:57 Octupus          Hello
17:57 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, Are you on my Skyblocks server?
17:57 khonkhortisan    yes
17:57 khonkhortisan    and doing well
17:57 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, k
17:57 thexyz           wat? levels?
17:58 khonkhortisan    I don't know where to get any more coal yet
17:58 * thexyz         crawls out his cave
17:58 Jordach          khonkhortisan, smelt a tree
17:58 Jordach          that makes coal
17:59 Jordach          (if that works
17:59 Jordach          redcrab, you here?
18:00 Jordach          OldCoder http://ompldr.org/vZm1kMg/mods.zip
18:00 Jordach          my pack of mods
18:00 OldCoder         Jordach, O.K. I will try that shortly
18:01 OldCoder         Jordach, Basically I just install those and create a new default world. Is that right?
18:01 Jordach          yes
18:01 OldCoder         Jordach, Did you include a text file?
18:01 Jordach          i'll hold admin - same for you
18:01 OldCoder         Jordach, Paste me some notes about all of this
18:01 Jordach          theres a readme in there
18:01 OldCoder         Jordach, all right. I am rebuilding my EC2. The new one will include this.
18:01 Jordach          thanks
18:01 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, I will be shutting down my servers in a little while to move to a new EC2
18:02 * Jordach        has Queen playing
18:03 Octupus          Oldcoder,i wanna join a server
18:03 OldCoder         You can choose from four of mine
18:03 OldCoder         It will take about an hour to finish them
18:04 Octupus          ok
18:04 OldCoder         I am running four different worlds
18:04 Octupus          cool
18:04 * Jordach        wishes for port 80085
18:05 * Octupus        is trying to drown a fish
18:05 Jordach          lol
18:05 Octupus          :)
18:06 PilzAdam         gtg
18:06 PilzAdam         bye
18:06 Jordach          ^ me does not trust that pilzadam
18:06 NekoGloop        so the purpose of redcrab's server is to irritate people with node_ownership?
18:06 Calinou          Jordach: ports are between 1 and 65535 :p
18:06 Calinou          too bad
18:07 Calinou          NekoGloop: yep :)
18:07 Calinou          steve jobs' server :P
18:07 Jordach          thats why pixel art will have a nice fresh world
18:07 Octupus          jordach im going onto pixel art server
18:08 Jordach          where everyone can freely build, Octupus, i  no longer work there
18:08 Jordach          (no one ever went there)
18:08 Octupus          can i have it
18:08 Calinou          redcrab: make pixel art a chaos server, griefing allowed, pvp and such :p
18:08 Calinou          with protection blocks which can be crafted, use glomie's mod
18:09 Calinou          and with bones mod
18:09 Jordach          Calinou, id like that
18:09 Jordach          flatten it completely
18:10 Jordach          and restart fresh
18:10 Octupus          jordach can u start up your server
18:10 rubenwardy       Mod Idea: Shared Locked Chests.   cornernote_ would be the best bet for it
18:10 Jordach          why
18:10 Octupus          i want to play on it :)
18:10 Calinou          rubenwardy: +1
18:10 Calinou          with a GUI to add people
18:11 Jordach          minetest.zapto.org : 30000
18:11 Calinou          let's pwn minecraft (bukkit plugins) by having serverside GUIs
18:11 Octupus          thanks
18:11 redcrab          Calinou, Jordach : oki to a whole reset without backup of current ...
18:11 Calinou          no backup? are you sure?
18:11 Jordach          redcrab, KEEP THE MAP
18:11 redcrab          too late ...
18:11 Octupus          thanks u
18:11 redcrab          no ... it's a joke :p
18:12 T_A_N_K          idea: worldmod loader - A file which executes a modloader.lua file in the world directory which loads up all the mods for that world, this could be useful for skyblock
18:12 T_A_N_K          each world could have it's own set of mods, then just put it up for download, have people get worldmod loader, and presto, no more dependancy issues
18:14 OldCoder         khonkhortisan and others: Could anybody playing Skyblock or other servers of mine exit for a minute or two?
18:14 OldCoder         Getting ready to transfer the data
18:14 * khonkhortisan  isn't on it
18:15 OldCoder         k
18:15 khonkhortisan    I expected to be able to climb down the waterfall to land but there was nothing there
18:15 OldCoder         Mention it to cornernote
18:16 khonkhortisan    I thought there was at least some mapgen but it was completely disabled. It's supposed to be that way
18:16 T_A_N_K          xD
18:17 T_A_N_K          i was mining for diamonds yesterday, and i thought "After i run out of torches, i'm goin to get off" well my computer must have read my mind because when i placed down my last torch my computer froze
18:18 Jordach          T_A_N_K, what software are we going to use for the lets play?
18:18 Jordach          (chat wise)
18:18 T_A_N_K          probably mumble
18:18 * Jordach        has that
18:21 Jordach          home sweet home http://i.imgur.com/P9Wpi.png
18:24 khonkhortisan    redcrab is protocol 6? But it was just 13!
18:24 khonkhortisan    oh. wrong port.
18:24 redcrab          Jordach : oki ... fresh new map ... Jordach still the owner of 30402 ,, interact by default.. same mods as 30401...
18:25 Jordach          khonkhortisan, thats the old game
18:25 khonkhortisan    my game crashed and I had to type in the server again
18:28 redcrab          protocol 6 I guess in on port 30000  .. port 30401 and 30402 used last protocol (13 i guess)
18:28 Jordach          redcrab, thanks
18:28 Calinou          misa pack updated now with technic and improved mesecons support
18:28 Calinou          :>
18:28 Calinou          T_A_N_K: worldpath/worldmods :>
18:28 Calinou          see my "maze" map
18:29 Calinou          it has maptools in the world folder, in worldmods
18:29 T_A_N_K          nice! but you should make that an official mod
18:29 Calinou          redcrab: what about making an "hardcore pvp" server? with bones mod :P and no node_ownership, just protect mod
18:29 Calinou          T_A_N_K: maptools? ask celeron55 and see :
18:29 Calinou          :>
18:29 Calinou          going to go now... bye :)
18:30 Calinou          misa pack has... 1,531 textures now O_o
18:30 Jordach          my pack has almost 400
18:48 OldCoder
18:48 OldCoder         All set
18:49 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
18:49 OldCoder         Updated and moved to a new EC2
18:49 OldCoder         Jordach, I'll add your world next
18:49 OldCoder         cornernote_, if you are awake... Is your building still in the world?
18:49 OldCoder         I can't find it
18:51 OldCoder         Hmm
18:51 OldCoder         Netsplit
18:53 OldCoder         frogcrush, wb
18:54 mika__           neko, take it as an expansion to your place, pay him some wood
18:55 NakedFury        trying to join the skyblock world and it wont let me
19:04 * VanessaE       peeks in
19:04 OldCoder         Octupus, VanessaE wb
19:04 VanessaE         hi all.
19:04 OldCoder         VanessaE, 4 servers now
19:04 VanessaE         so I read.  cool,.
19:04 Octupus          Heelo
19:05 OldCoder         Octupus, you can try any of these:
19:05 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
19:05 OldCoder         I am adding a Jordach world now
19:05 NakedFury        oldcoder cant connect to skyblock
19:05 Octupus          kay :)
19:05 OldCoder         VanessaE, any chance you can tell me if port 30000 is the same as before?
19:05 OldCoder         NakedFury, checking now thanks
19:05 OldCoder         This is a rebuilt setup
19:05 VanessaE         what was the address?>
19:05 OldCoder         There may be glitches
19:05 OldCoder         Hold on
19:05 khonkhortisan    develan.com 30002
19:06 VanessaE         thanks khonkhortisan
19:06 OldCoder         That is for Skyblock
19:06 khonkhortisan    I keep a text file of the servers I go on, just five so far and too many to keep track of
19:06 NakedFury        may I ask what the numbered block is for?
19:06 OldCoder         NakedFury, talk to cornernote
19:06 VanessaE         checking the one on port 30000.
19:06 OldCoder         It is a fun game
19:06 OldCoder         VanessaE, tell me if this is the same world
19:06 OldCoder         NakedFury, Skyblock is there
19:06 VanessaE         NakedFury: I think that starts the next "level".
19:07 khonkhortisan    don't dig the [1]
19:07 VanessaE         (dig it to advance I think)
19:07 VanessaE         no?
19:07 khonkhortisan    no, it tracks everything. Digging restarts your game
19:07 * khonkhortisan  got to level 9
19:07 VanessaE         ah
19:08 VanessaE         OldCoder: 30000 looks the same to me, at least from where I was standing when I signed off.  Seems a bit laggy though
19:09 NakedFury        ok the leafs are only dropping more leafs and not saplings
19:09 Octupus          i join the server codz
19:10 VanessaE         you have to craft saplings don't you?
19:10 VanessaE         in skyblock I mean
19:10 VanessaE         oh, here comes trouble...
19:10 VanessaE         ;)
19:10 Octupus          XD
19:10 Octupus          hi neko
19:10 Octupus          Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
19:11 Octupus          hmmmmmmmmmm
19:11 Octupus          :D
19:11 NekoGloop        so redcrab's server exists to make people incredibly pissed off at each other
19:11 NekoGloop        seems legit
19:11 VanessaE         NekoGloop: not at all, it works well for me
19:11 VanessaE         it's just that the map is so damn old that most of the "good" land is taken
19:11 NekoGloop        you havent had your land stolen
19:12 VanessaE         I thought I read that redcrab fixed that?
19:12 NekoGloop        kinggorilla was an ass about it though
19:13 VanessaE         he's a griefer I guess, so I read elsewhere.
19:13 NekoGloop        well fuck him then
19:13 OldCoder         Jordach world is at port 30003
19:13 VanessaE         naturally such people are anti-social :-)
19:13 NekoGloop        he can grief my structures all he wants
19:14 NekoGloop        after all, he now owns them, and all my items
19:14 NekoGloop        since i'm gonna play singleplayer now
19:14 VanessaE         bug redcrab to fix it
19:14 NekoGloop        redcrab can fuck himself as well
19:14 VanessaE         hey now
19:14 FreeFull         VanessaE: You should have taken that island before I did
19:15 VanessaE         FreeFull: what, that tall one across the lake?  didn't want it
19:15 FreeFull         The one that's half desert half green
19:15 FreeFull         With the wool house
19:15 VanessaE         half desert half green...  now I have to go look. :-)
19:16 FreeFull         Oh that's right, I haven't finished the wool house yet
19:19 VanessaE         NekoGloop: kinggorilla is vacating the area he took
19:19 VanessaE         FreeFull: I don't even see it from here..
19:19 NekoGloop        i dont give a shit
19:19 VanessaE         well *I* do :-)
19:20 Basstard`        Am I here yet?
19:20 Jordach          OldCoder ADMIN ME
19:20 Octupus          XD
19:20 OldCoder         Jordach, O.K.
19:20 Octupus          he's doing something
19:20 FreeFull         VanessaE: Come over to where I am
19:20 OldCoder         Jordach, Is your world working
19:20 Jordach          logged in right now
19:20 Octupus          XD
19:20 Jordach          yes
19:20 OldCoder         Jordach, Port 30003 is you
19:20 Jordach          30003
19:20 OldCoder         Jordach, Hold on
19:20 OldCoder         Jordach, You are in line
19:20 OldCoder         Making an Octoworld now
19:21 Octupus          :D
19:21 NekoGloop        OldCoder: skyblock died?
19:21 Basstard`        Filled with tentacle erotica?
19:21 OldCoder         NekoGloop, checking
19:21 Jordach          Basstard` - NO. ESP. NO,
19:21 FreeFull         VanessaE: The place with the letters FF on the mapp
19:21 FreeFull         map*
19:21 Jordach          JUST, NO.
19:21 Basstard`        Haha
19:22 Jordach          OldCoder, the server seems laggy
19:22 OldCoder         Jordach, Yes
19:22 OldCoder         Jordach, need to figure out what can be fixed
19:22 OldCoder         NekoGloop, om
19:23 OldCoder         NekoGloop, it is running. Lockup of some kind?
19:23 OldCoder         Restarting
19:23 Jordach          turn down the amount of running mods on other servers
19:23 OldCoder         Jordach, explain
19:23 Jordach          something seems to be running wild
19:23 Jordach          my connection time is 0.2 seconds
19:23 OldCoder         Wait
19:23 OldCoder         Reviewing CPU load
19:24 OldCoder         Maybe I will speed this up
19:24 OldCoder         Hold on
19:24 OldCoder         Anybody know what the next class up costs for EC2?
19:24 Jordach          ask redcrab
19:24 VanessaE         FreeFull: I can't even find you on the map at all
19:24 VanessaE         how far out are you?
19:24 mika__           nekogloop, vanessaE, that kinggorilla killed me several times, then he asks people to say what they think about his house but if they walk in without permission he kills them, happened to me too
19:24 OldCoder         I am going to bump this up
19:24 OldCoder         NekoGloop, wait
19:24 thexyz           http://i.imgur.com/ufm5O.png
19:24 Jordach          VanessaE, must be the invisible player bug
19:25 OldCoder         Skyblock
19:25 Jordach          yes thexyz
19:25 OldCoder         Is killing the server
19:25 mika__           i would say his kill count is in 20
19:25 OldCoder         Folks I can't run Skyblock until we nail it down
19:25 OldCoder         Goes to 90% CPU usage
19:26 FreeFull         VanessaE: I'm at -777.7, 36.5, -343.9 right now
19:26 Jordach          possibly the level checker
19:26 Jordach          and the mapgen
19:26 OldCoder         I'm going to upgrade my EC2 account
19:26 OldCoder         Hold on
19:26 thexyz           here http://pastebin.com/FRNBbEZK
19:26 thexyz           and, btw, i've never used blender before
19:26 NakedFury        what is ec2?
19:26 thexyz           so i don't know whether it works right or not
19:27 OldCoder         NakedFury, I am running an Amazon Web Servers EC2 instance
19:27 OldCoder         I will try upgrading the account now
19:27 Smoki            Hi all :)
19:28 OldCoder         Smoki, Hello
19:28 thexyz           i don't understand those cloud hostings =(
19:28 thexyz           they cost more than dedicated ones
19:28 OldCoder         thexyz, I am learning slowly
19:28 OldCoder         thexyz, This one is free
19:28 thexyz           why everybody loves it?
19:28 OldCoder         Sort of
19:28 thexyz           oh
19:28 Smoki            So VanessaE, some help ? :)
19:28 OldCoder         Free is good
19:29 Jordach          wait
19:29 Jordach          there is a free amazon ec2>#
19:29 OldCoder         That is what this is
19:29 OldCoder         Sort of
19:29 OldCoder         Not really free
19:29 VanessaE         Smoki: I use it like this:
19:29 VanessaE         local perlin = minetest.env:get_perlin(SEED, 3, 0.5, 150 )
19:29 VanessaE         then,
19:30 VanessaE         local noise = perlin:get2d({x=p_top.x, y=p_top.z})
19:30 VanessaE         that second line gets the noise value at the given coordinates.
19:30 VanessaE         I don't remember exactly what the values passed to get_perlin do, I got that info from splizard.
19:30 FreeFull         VanessaE: Not going to check it out?
19:30 VanessaE         freefull: later, I don't have time now.
19:30 Smoki            ok, that i figured out of examples, but need some more detailed (and practical) description of parameters in get_perlin
19:31 Octupus          timed out srry
19:31 Octupus          Codz u found my file yet
19:31 VanessaE         Smoki: the rest you'll have to check the API, I gottaq run
19:31 VanessaE         bbl
19:31 Octupus          coder
19:31 Octupus          u found my file
19:31 OldCoder         Octupus, Hi
19:31 OldCoder         Octupus, Yes
19:31 Octupus          :D
19:31 OldCoder         Octupus, trying to speed up servers first
19:31 Octupus          ok
19:31 OldCoder         So your world will run
19:31 Octupus          YAY
19:31 Smoki            ok, anyone else willing to help with my question ? :)
19:31 Jordach          OldCoder, time now is about 0.17 seconds
19:32 OldCoder         Jordach, Working
19:32 OldCoder         Wait please
19:33 OldCoder         Shutting down to restart at higher speed
19:33 Octupus          i was thinking of a mod
19:33 OldCoder         ?
19:34 Octupus          readable stories mod
19:34 OldCoder         ?
19:34 Octupus          in mt
19:35 NakedFury        like in the myst series?
19:35 NakedFury        each book is a world?
19:35 Octupus          ?
19:35 Octupus          maybe
19:35 Jordach          unrelated: landmines real appearance https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/4/4d/HitlerPikachu.png
19:36 NakedFury        scary pikachu
19:36 pskosinski       Someone reminds me of O Fortune, all the time.
19:36 Octupus          :D
19:36 Jordach          we should hold a running joke and say heil to landmine (and not use hail)
19:37 Octupus          my fav pokemon is blastoide
19:37 * Jordach        waits for OldCoder
19:37 OldCoder         Jordach, I am working on the pricing
19:37 OldCoder         Jordach, This is going to cost me $$$
19:37 Octupus          $$$$$$
19:37 Octupus          buddy
19:37 Jordach          $$$ = swearing
19:38 Octupus          i once bought a candy for 25 cents and it was horrible
19:38 OldCoder         $$$ = cash
19:38 OldCoder         Money, moola
19:38 OldCoder         Expensivo
19:39 OldCoder         Rebooting now
19:39 Octupus          dinero
19:39 OldCoder         Yes
19:39 pskosinski       http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blastoise_(Pokémon) Abilities: Torrent --  Woot?
19:39 FreeFull         Glass panes are a cool building material if you use them creatively
19:40 FreeFull         Whoa whoa whoa, redcrab's server has glass slabs now?
19:40 Octupus          servers back up
19:40 Jordach          http://i.imgur.com/vyhJi.jpg
19:42 NekoGloop        webchat went total derp??
19:43 OldCoder         Try my servers now
19:43 OldCoder         I am paying $$$ for them
19:43 OldCoder         Maybe faster
19:43 T_A_N_K_         i'm creating a sound pack, how does this sound? https://www.dropbox.com/s/23jql5z8rd4ndt0/soundpack.zip
19:44 T_A_N_K_         _so far_
19:44 NekoGloop        XD i have two lavas now XD
19:45 Jordach          OldCoder, address please#
19:45 OldCoder         Jordach, you are at
19:45 OldCoder         Server develan.com Port 30002
19:45 OldCoder         octupus, wb
19:45 octupus          hi
19:45 octupus          again
19:45 octupus          i spelt my name wrong
19:45 NekoGloop        brb
19:45 OldCoder         working on your world now
19:45 octupus          yay
19:46 octupus          just go into
19:46 OldCoder         octupus, What is special in this tree?
19:46 octupus          ?
19:46 octupus          which tree
19:46 OldCoder         Sorry
19:46 OldCoder         In this copy of the game
19:46 Octupus          nothing
19:46 OldCoder         What are the unique parts?
19:46 Octupus          nothing
19:46 OldCoder         What am I preparing to install?
19:46 Octupus          u already have mesecons on the server so
19:46 NekoGloop        Jordach: what, no skyblock for you?
19:47 Octupus          nothing
19:47 OldCoder         Octupus, is it the world that I should add for you?
19:47 Octupus          yes
19:47 Octupus          please
19:47 OldCoder         Ah!
19:47 OldCoder         O.K.
19:47 Octupus          idk remember the spawn coors
19:47 Octupus          its in the config thugh
19:48 OldCoder         Octupus, so... you basically want the world I see here.
19:48 OldCoder         Not much else is needed?
19:48 Octupus          yes
19:48 Octupus          no
19:48 OldCoder         All right
19:48 OldCoder         Good
19:48 OldCoder         Wait
19:48 Uberi            yesno?
19:48 OldCoder         noyes
19:49 Uberi            I agree completely, OldCoder
19:49 OldCoder         Others: Tell me if my servers are fast now
19:49 Octupus          yes
19:49 OldCoder         k
19:49 OldCoder         Working
19:49 Octupus          its just the world
19:49 OldCoder         Yes
19:49 OldCoder         Wait
19:49 OldCoder         It is coming
19:49 Octupus          ok
19:50 NakedFury        oldcoder maybe running lava is making the skyblock lag or load too much cpu?
19:50 OldCoder         Is it fast now?
19:50 Octupus          the server is fast
19:50 OldCoder         NakedFury, ^ ?
19:50 NakedFury        you said something about 90 cpu load or something
19:50 OldCoder         NakedFury, how fast is Skyblock now?
19:50 OldCoder         Yes
19:51 OldCoder         But I updated my account
19:51 OldCoder         $$$
19:51 OldCoder         ^ Money
19:51 OldCoder         ^ Paying them cash
19:51 OldCoder         So now maybe it is fast
19:51 Octupus          to me its fast
19:51 Octupus          no lag
19:51 Octupus          rapido
19:51 Octupus          :D
19:51 OldCoder         k
19:51 OldCoder         Wait
19:51 OldCoder         Patience is a Virtue
19:52 Uberi            did someone say "non-laggy server"? :P
19:52 OldCoder         Yes
19:52 OldCoder         Maybe
19:52 OldCoder         Try it
19:52 Octupus          maybe
19:52 Uberi            host + port?
19:52 OldCoder         Wait
19:52 OldCoder         New webpage coming
19:52 OldCoder         10 minutes please
19:54 OldCoder         Octupus, does your world have cliffs?
19:55 Octupus          no
19:55 OldCoder         Not sure it is right
19:55 OldCoder         Wait a minute
19:55 OldCoder         It's your world
19:55 OldCoder         Hold on
19:57 OldCoder         New webpage shortly
19:57 OldCoder         Muadtralk, hello. News.
19:58 Octupus          ok
19:59 OldCoder
19:59 OldCoder         Press Reload on this page:
19:59 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
19:59 OldCoder         I am now running 5 servers
19:59 OldCoder         Let me know how well they perform
19:59 OldCoder
19:59 OldCoder         Octupus check the one at port 30004. That should be your world.
19:59 OldCoder
19:59 Octupus          ok
20:00 Uberi            OldCoder: btw check the paragraph at the top, it says you're running four but there are 5 links
20:00 OldCoder         I know
20:00 OldCoder         Noticed that as I was uploading
20:00 OldCoder         Didn't want to keep Jordach and Octupus waiting
20:00 OldCoder         Muadtralk, see that page
20:00 OldCoder         I wonder how many of these I can run
20:01 Octupus          i got invalid password coder
20:01 OldCoder         There is no password needed
20:01 OldCoder         Yet
20:01 Octupus          oh
20:01 Uberi            OldCoder: which mesecons version? GH latest?
20:01 OldCoder         These are open. I will need to tighten that up
20:01 OldCoder         Latest
20:01 Uberi            cool
20:01 OldCoder         Except for Jordach world. I am using his set
20:02 OldCoder         Uberi, fixed the typo
20:02 OldCoder         Octupus, check your world. Is it correct?
20:02 Uberi            excellent
20:02 Octupus          wait
20:02 OldCoder         Jordach, I need to figure out opping and security etc.
20:02 Octupus          u have to change something in your config
20:02 OldCoder         That is fine
20:03 OldCoder         One step at a time
20:03 Octupus          for opping purposes
20:03 OldCoder         Yes
20:03 Octupus          config
20:03 OldCoder         Right now I am trapped in a cave in your world
20:03 Octupus          lol
20:03 Octupus          im coming
20:03 OldCoder         Yes; I see you
20:04 Jordach          OldCoder, i need to go to bed now
20:04 OldCoder         Jordach, good night
20:04 OldCoder         If you want your world fine tuned
20:04 OldCoder         It will be fine
20:05 Mikeonline       minetest.env:get_player_by_name does not work if the player is not logged in.
20:05 Mikeonline       is there a bett function which works if player is not logged in to?
20:05 Mikeonline       +o
20:05 Uberi            Mikeonline: check if it returns nil?
20:06 OldCoder         I'm giving myself $^$^&$ fly
20:06 OldCoder         Tired of being stuck
20:06 Mikeonline       it returns nil if player is not online
20:06 Mikeonline       otherwise it works
20:06 Mikeonline       @uberi
20:06 Uberi            Mikeonline: so you want the name of a player ref that's offline?
20:06 Mikeonline       yes
20:07 Mikeonline       offline OR online
20:07 Mikeonline       both
20:07 Uberi            how are you getting this player ref if the player is offline?
20:07 Mikeonline       local player = minetest.env:get_player_by_name(ownername) < this works only for online ones
20:07 Mikeonline       i dont know why the author of node_ownership did this
20:07 Mikeonline       it seems it would be enough to take ownername without function pass
20:08 Uberi            Mikeonline: oh you can't get a player ref if the player isn't on the server
20:08 Uberi            Mikeonline: and it's a part of minetest itself, not node_ownership
20:09 Mikeonline       yes
20:09 Mikeonline       it seems like the function is not necessary there
20:09 Mikeonline       i just could use the parsed username
20:09 Mikeonline       and it would work fine too i think
20:10 Mikeonline       but the programmer has had a thought of doing so..
20:10 Mikeonline       i doubt?
20:10 Uberi            parsed username?
20:10 Mikeonline       from /set_owner Uberi 123
20:10 Uberi            oh that doesn't obtain a player ref
20:10 Uberi            that just stores the username
20:11 Mikeonline       you know node ownership mod?
20:11 Uberi            yes
20:11 OldCoder         These worlds seem to be working. Others feel free to try them.
20:11 Mikeonline       then i explain the problem:
20:11 Smoki            i think author of nodeship_owner wants to check if player name is valid one
20:11 * OldCoder       is on a short break
20:11 Mikeonline       Smoki: yes thats maybe..
20:11 Uberi            OldCoder: I noticed some unknown items scattered across the map
20:11 Mikeonline       so i should remove this check and claim name is valid?
20:11 OldCoder         Uberi, Yes
20:11 Smoki            but yes it is some disadvetage that it works onbly for online players.
20:11 Mikeonline       or is there another possibility
20:11 Uberi            there's one in my inventory, in fact
20:12 NekoGloop        OldCoder: is skyblock not advancing my level?
20:12 OldCoder         Uberi, That is git MT 0.4.3 from today. Bleeding edge sources.
20:12 Uberi            Mikeonline: remove what check?
20:12 Uberi            OldCoder: I see
20:12 OldCoder         NekoGloop, cornernote will be supporting Skyblock
20:12 Smoki            maybe you can try to get world path add /players and check if there is file called like players name ?
20:12 Mikeonline       the check currently works for an online player only
20:12 Uberi            but now you have me curious as to what they are :P
20:12 Mikeonline       i just want to check if its a valid player
20:12 OldCoder         Uberi, if the mod authors will work with me we'll nail down all the pieces.
20:12 OldCoder         Uberi, I have bleeding edge git for mods as well as MT
20:13 OldCoder         So there are bound to be glitches. But the worlds all seem fast enough now.
20:13 OldCoder         I can probably host a dozen.
20:13 Mikeonline       smoki: yes that would be the big solution
20:13 * OldCoder       is on a short break
20:13 Uberi            Mikeonline: there is no way of retrieving a list of all players, as far as I know, unless you parse the player files themselves
20:14 Smoki            Mikeonline but you must consider dangers of constructing file path from string passed to you by gods knows who
20:15 VanessaE         back.
20:15 Uberi            o/ VanessaE
20:15 VanessaE         hi hi
20:15 Mikeonline       hm hm
20:15 Smoki            so maybe better get listing of directory with players and search your name there
20:15 Mikeonline       so its better to let it in
20:16 Uberi            quick suggestion before I forget: random() for ucScript in microcontrollers, returns random boolean value
20:16 Uberi            it is unnecessarily difficult to make PRNGs in Mesecons with everything being deterministic and all
20:17 Octupus          im on my world and im falling down to coder
20:17 Smoki            Oh, VanessaE, i nearly forgot, i have another business to you ;)
20:18 Smoki            you are working on pipelines mod, aren't you ?
20:18 VanessaE         yes
20:18 VanessaE         Pipeworks, it's called
20:18 VanessaE         RealBadAngel is writing the code to make them able to move water
20:19 NekoGloop        I have like, 5 stacks of dirt in oldcoder's skyblock server XD
20:19 Smoki            at some moment i worked on something similiar, when i want make something like steampunkmod
20:20 khonkhortisan    aw it crashed while I was digging
20:20 Smoki            but still not get good algorith too distrubute information along pipes. Have you done it already ?
20:20 VanessaE         Smoki: RealBadAngel is working on that part.
20:21 Smoki            ok, so i need catch him ? :)
20:21 VanessaE         yeah
20:22 Smoki            or maybe you know if it he working it that something is transported if connected, or amount of that is traced also ?
20:23 VanessaE         that's what the tubes stuff is for, he's working on that too
20:23 VanessaE         pipeworks has steel pipes for fluids, and plastic pneumatic tubes for objects
20:23 VanessaE         he uses the latter in his Technic mod.
20:24 VanessaE         and the fluids, he's got most of the code already done, just needs bugfixes.
20:25 Smoki            wow, so time to invent boilers, pumps, some automatas etc ;)
20:26 VanessaE         perhaps :-)
20:26 VanessaE         pipeworks has pump and valve objects
20:26 OldCoder         NekoGloop, is that good?
20:26 NekoGloop        no i derped
20:26 VanessaE         but since no fluids can move yet, they do nothing useful yet
20:26 NekoGloop        you have to look up
20:26 T_A_N_K_         http://i.imgur.com/FY63K.png mother of burritos
20:26 VanessaE         Neko "I derped" Gloop.
20:26 VanessaE         ;_)
20:26 VanessaE         ;)
20:26 Basstard`        MOTHER OF BURRITOS
20:26 Octupus          coder u bad
20:26 Octupus          back
20:26 OldCoder         Yeah I bad
20:26 OldCoder         :-)
20:27 VanessaE         T_A_N_K_: mithril?
20:27 OldCoder         I'll add the configuration file
20:27 Basstard`        OldCoder has a bad back, he's OldCoder.
20:27 T_A_N_K_         diamonds
20:27 VanessaE         oh
20:27 T_A_N_K_         diamonds everywhere
20:27 OldCoder         Basstard`, Indeed
20:27 VanessaE         never used that mod.
20:27 Octupus          :)
20:27 Mikeonline       hm i will mod tomorrow more
20:28 Uberi            minetest.register_alias("default:dirt", "default:mese")
20:28 Octupus          cod u add my config
20:28 Mikeonline       i will release my changes of node ownership soon
20:28 OldCoder         Octupus, I just said that
20:28 Mikeonline       added: locked all world without concession
20:28 Octupus          ohh i didnt see
20:28 Octupus          XD
20:28 Mikeonline       added: griefing priv for special players who are allowed to build everywhere
20:29 Uberi            Mikeonline: is it available on GH?
20:29 Mikeonline       no i need some place todo never did this
20:29 Mikeonline       i prefer svn
20:29 Octupus          i heard you were a wild 1 OOoOOO
20:29 NekoGloop        whoever asked how to build down in skyblock: use lava + water
20:29 Octupus          XD
20:30 Smoki            Mikeonline added maybe limits to remove area ?
20:30 Uberi            Mikeonline: make sure you post about it in the original node ownership thread when you're done!
20:30 Mikeonline       yes
20:31 Mikeonline       i think it would be nice for all
20:31 Mikeonline       and then i post the whole file
20:31 Mikeonline       also in 0.4.3 its not neccessary to patch core files
20:33 T_A_N_K_         realbadangel must have tried to type "RE" in the irc when he was making the battery name
20:33 NekoGloop        RE-chargable
20:33 NekoGloop        that's what it stands for
20:35 Octupus          im lonely XD
20:35 OldCoder         You can kill your friends in your world
20:35 OldCoder         Hold on
20:36 Mikeonline       Uberi: do you need the changes quick?
20:36 Mikeonline       Smoki: what kind of limits?
20:36 Octupus          k
20:37 Uberi            Mikeonline: not particularly
20:37 Smoki            if owners.tbl gets corrupted (or maybe when adding privs deliberately) you can get an infinite loop
20:38 Mikeonline       someone posted remove may be corrupted
20:38 Mikeonline       didnt check it
20:38 Smoki            it probably happens at redcrab servers - judging that he told that remove area got stack overflow
20:38 Mikeonline       redcrab made a patch
20:38 Mikeonline       but does it work?`
20:38 OldCoder         How does one change password in MT ?
20:38 Mikeonline       i included redcrabs patch
20:38 Smoki            yes, me and redcrab posted two solutions for that, but i disagree with that radcrab's a little
20:39 Uberi            OldCoder: esc > change password
20:39 OldCoder         ty
20:39 Octupus          yes
20:39 Mikeonline       smoki: is your solution well tested?
20:40 Smoki            redcrabs patch have one problem i think : if there is is area with child, and this childs has also a child then removing top area wont remove last child
20:40 Smoki            no, its prrof of concept - i wrote it out of memory, but if not get syntac error i will work
20:41 Smoki            redcrab solution only cheks one level of childs
20:41 NekoGloop        NakedFury: are you coming back to the skyblock world eventually?
20:43 NakedFury        yes
20:43 NakedFury        got class in some time
20:43 NekoGloop        ah i see
20:43 Mikeonline       maybe there should be a nice recursion
20:43 NekoGloop        may i build over to your island?
20:43 Mikeonline       but it needs to be rewritten from scratch
20:46 Smoki            you can check my solution if works (its recursive, just had safety againt infinite loop) or modify redcrabs solution as i wrote on forum
20:47 Mikeonline       actually i use redcrabs one
20:47 OldCoder         I am going to set passwords required now on the worlds
20:47 Mikeonline       but without checking it
20:48 NekoGloop        wtf i cant use my bucket?
20:48 Octupus          coder did u read my instructions
20:49 OldCoder         Octupus, I clicked on exit accidentally
20:49 Octupus          ohh
20:49 Octupus          lol
20:49 OldCoder         Octupus, It is fine. One step at a time.
20:49 OldCoder         Octupus, I need to help somebody with PHP. Then I will experiment with the servers further.
20:49 Octupus          coder
20:50 Octupus          go into the conf
20:50 Octupus          im helping u set damage
20:51 Octupus          u in there
20:51 Octupus          ?
20:51 thexyz           php = shit
20:51 OldCoder         Hi
21:01 Octupus          $phrase= "Patience is A Virtue";                print "$phrase\n";
21:01 OldCoder         Yes
21:01 OldCoder         :-)
21:01 OldCoder         http://pastebin.ca/2207335
21:01 Octupus          :)
21:01 OldCoder         Octupus, I will add the PVP option to that
21:01 OldCoder         Show it around and see if there is anything else you need
21:01 OldCoder         I will be busy for a few minutes
21:01 OldCoder         Then will update
21:02 Octupus          ok
21:02 Octupus          k
21:03 NekoGloop        OldCoder, wanna see my skyblock? :3
21:04 OldCoder         NekoGloop, Yes. In 10 minutes. I would.
21:04 NekoGloop        Ok.
21:04 * VanessaE       pokes redcrab
21:07 NekoGloop        why are dry shrubs useless -_-
21:07 Smoki            because they are dry...
21:07 Octupus          coder i beilieve u need this
21:08 Octupus          http://pastebin.com/eTLaS5Y6
21:08 Octupus          that shud be correct
21:09 Octupus          can i see neko
21:09 OldCoder         Octupus, Try your World of Death now
21:09 OldCoder         NekoGloop, joining
21:09 Octupus          ok
21:09 Octupus          u have t exit minetest completely for it to work
21:10 Octupus          like exit the bin
21:10 Octupus          but u can open it up again
21:10 OldCoder         NekoGloop, How would I find it?
21:10 OldCoder         Whoa
21:11 Octupus          coder
21:11 Octupus          u exit mt completely
21:11 NekoGloop        you find it by flying toward my name
21:13 OldCoder         NekoGloop, How do I fly?
21:13 OldCoder         Octupus, Network glitch
21:13 NekoGloop        with the K key
21:13 OldCoder         NekoGloop, K k
21:13 OldCoder         :-)
21:28 Smoki            bye
21:28 Octupus          coder the command is
21:28 Octupus          ./grant Octupuslegs all
21:35 OldCoder         Octupus, you don't ask for much :-)
21:35 OldCoder         Octupus, so you wish all privs for your server? Very well
21:36 OldCoder         Octupus, You are now God. But that means you can't fight fairly with your friends.
21:37 Octupus          :)
21:37 OldCoder         Huh
21:43 Octupus          coder can i show u my thingy i built
21:46 Octupus          OldCoder, can i show u the arena i built
21:47 OldCoder         Octupus, Yes in about 15 minutes. I am helping another developer.
21:47 OldCoder         Octupus, Page me in 15 to 30
21:50 Octupus          ok
21:59 T_A_N_K_         thexyz, why no i don't i don't even know what that link is for, but any website named sadCODELANGUAGE will always come off strange to me xD
22:00 Octupus          lad u join yet
22:04 OldCoder         Octupus, There he is
22:04 Octupus          :)
22:04 Octupus          lad u join yet
22:33 OldCoder         Hey. Is enable_pvp = true enough to enable fighting and, if so, is left click supposed to fight? Finally, if the game ran without that setting and it was adding, should it convert on the next restart to pvp mode?
22:33 OldCoder         *it was added
22:41 OldCoder         NekoGloop, hi
22:41 NekoGloop        hi
22:41 OldCoder         ey. Is enable_pvp = true enough to enable fighting and, if so, is left click supposed to fight? Finally, if the game ran without that setting and it was adding, should it convert on the next restart to pvp mode?
22:41 VanessaE         Neko "I derped" Gloop :-)
22:41 OldCoder         NekoGloop, join Octuworld and comment please
22:41 OldCoder         VanessaE, maybe you too
22:41 OldCoder         If time
22:41 NekoGloop        OldCoder: yes it enables fighting
22:41 VanessaE         kinda busy on redcrab:30401 right now
22:41 NekoGloop        i do not know octuworld's port
22:42 OldCoder         NekoGloop, 30004
22:42 OldCoder         NekoGloop, I will paste the configuration file
22:42 NekoGloop        i like killing myself repeatedly on skyblock to refresh my achivements and get infinite buckets
22:42 OldCoder         k
22:43 NekoGloop        :D
22:44 OldCoder         NekoGloop, http://pastebin.ca/2207353
22:44 OldCoder         Review that and take a look at octuworld
22:44 OldCoder         What I am doing wrong?
22:45 OldCoder         IW   m (Modified)                 Row 2    Col 1   10:45  Ctrl-K H for help
22:45 OldCoder         /opt/minetest043/bin/minetestserver \
22:45 OldCoder         --port 30004 \
22:45 OldCoder         --gameid minetest_game \
22:45 OldCoder         --config /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/octuteam.conf \
22:45 OldCoder         --world  /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/worlds/octuteam
22:45 OldCoder         That is how the game is started
22:45 OldCoder         Wondering if one of the new mods conflicts with pvp
22:47 OldCoder         NekoGloop, Wait; even odder, enable_pvp defaults to true
22:48 OldCoder         So why doesn't it work?
22:50 OldCoder         Hi
22:51 NekoGloop        armor\api.lua:28 local armor_groups = {level=0,fleshy=3,snappy=3,choppy=3}
22:51 OldCoder         That will fix it?
22:51 OldCoder         Patching
22:51 NekoGloop        should
22:51 OldCoder         Couple of minutes
22:54 Octupus          it fixed?
22:59 OldCoder         Octupus, Yes it is fixed
22:59 OldCoder         Octupus, Patch to armor
23:01 NekoGloop        Meow~
23:02 NekoGloop        (the faint meowing of the cat at 11.5Y echoes up to 300Y...)
23:02 OldCoder         NekoGloop, thank you for the kitty patching assistance
23:02 NekoGloop        :3
23:02 OldCoder         NekoGloop, mention the patch to upstream
23:02 NekoGloop        sure
23:04 Octupus          Gracias coder
23:05 Octupus          coder i cant kill lad
23:06 OldCoder         Octupus, You both have superpowers
23:06 OldCoder         Is he wearing extra armor?
23:07 OldCoder         Octupus, PVP is working now. NekoGloop was able to injure me.
23:07 OldCoder         Octupus, we will figure all of this out over time.
23:07 OldCoder         Not bad for 32 hours
23:07 OldCoder         I have an EC2, five servers or so, debugged a lot of crap and built it twice
23:10 NekoGloop        why is noone on the skyblock server?
23:11 OldCoder         NekoGloop, Is it working?
23:12 NekoGloop        the skyblock?
23:18 Octupus          ok
23:23 OldCoder         NekoGloop, checking
23:23 NekoGloop        checking what?
23:24 Octupus          coder
23:24 Octupus          can i put this server on the forums
23:24 Octupus          or keep it private
23:26 OldCoder         Octupus, It is public
23:26 OldCoder         Muadtralk, Hi
23:26 Muadtralk        ello
23:26 OldCoder         Octupus, let me back it up
23:26 OldCoder         You know there will be griefers
23:27 OldCoder         But we will see
23:27 OldCoder         Muadtralk, try our new servers
23:28 Muadtralk        zut..... I'm sure you've told me the addresses before but my mind has slipped as to what they are
23:28 NekoGloop        uh...
23:28 Octupus          ok coder i think that will be the safest thing to do
23:28 NekoGloop        idk but you wanna come on port 30002
23:39 NekoGloop        MuadTralk: you timed out
23:44 NekoGloop        OldCoder: check the skyblock server, it appears to have crashed
23:44 NekoGloop        nvm XD