| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 00:00 |
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| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
Seriously, the skeleton is a fucking rapist! The player cant draw their bow back that quick! |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
and this is why I don't like the idea of hostile mobs |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
if I wanted those I'd play OpenArena. |
| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
Well just dont make them more powerful than the player. |
| 00:02 |
T_A_N_K |
i wish minetest had atleast one real mob |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
Oerkko |
| 00:02 |
T_A_N_K |
like, a sheep would be nice at least |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
Wow fail |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
Oerkki* |
| 00:02 |
T_A_N_K |
no i mean 3d, and usefull, to get wool |
| 00:02 |
LAD |
dungen master |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
T_A_N_K: Slimes, by Jeija. |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
And sheep would be nice yeah. |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
(they make glue) |
| 00:02 |
T_A_N_K |
ooo, i'll have to check that out |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
Slimes dont spawn for me :s |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: they spawn slowly. |
| 00:03 |
LAD |
very slow |
| 00:03 |
LAD |
tuke it almost 40 mins too |
| 00:03 |
NekoGloop |
I was able to remove the mod after two days and no unknown entities |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
that image I added to Jordach's wool crafts post, one of them showed up while I was busy laying out the wool :-) |
| 00:04 |
NekoGloop |
Sand and coal doesnt make sense to me :p |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: it's the old recipes from way back when |
| 00:04 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
at least it's *something* |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
even if they're nonsensical :-) |
| 00:05 |
NekoGloop |
Hm, maybe just cotton from flowers/farming |
| 00:05 |
NekoGloop |
4 cotton in a square makes 1 wool |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
no flowers on redcrab's server :-) |
| 00:05 |
NekoGloop |
So? |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
no farming either :-) |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
= no wool without using the old recipe |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
This face does not care |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: Ok I re-opened the topic. rage all you want, but I highly advise discretion. |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
Lol i was jokin |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
I just noticed you locked it |
| 00:08 |
NekoGloop |
Well, just as in i just noticed when i said that |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
as usual, you're out of date :D |
| 00:09 |
NekoGloop |
I'm always out of date |
| 00:09 |
NekoGloop |
My human body is out of date |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:13 |
T_A_N_K |
who would like to try out essentials spawn? |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
no thanks |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
Ipad |
| 00:17 |
T_A_N_K |
oh but it's neato, https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Essentials it's in /essentials_mods/spawn.lua |
| 00:17 |
T_A_N_K |
just take a look at the init.lua if anyone who looks does not understand |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
i don't do much with modpacks, I have my setup *just* the way I want it :-) |
| 00:17 |
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| 00:18 |
T_A_N_K |
this isn't a modpack, this is a server protection/addition to add features and protect against griefers (eventually) |
| 00:18 |
T_A_N_K |
even a cuss filter will eventually be in |
| 00:18 |
T_A_N_K |
anti-pam too |
| 00:18 |
T_A_N_K |
s/pam/spam |
| 00:20 |
Octupus |
if u want i can check it |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
a cuss filter? |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
DO NOT FUCKING WANT. |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 00:20 |
Octupus |
Tank i will be gald to test it out on a server |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 00:20 |
T_A_N_K |
well then this is not for you, this is for major servers like redcrab |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
I play on redcrab :-) |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
(30401) |
| 00:21 |
Octupus |
Can i test it anyway? |
| 00:21 |
T_A_N_K |
yes go ahead mate https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Essentials |
| 00:21 |
Octupus |
il try it on single player |
| 00:22 |
T_A_N_K |
okay, & on side note, my habit of getting stuck in potential loop argument/provements has caused me to block vanessa |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 00:22 |
Octupus |
she said :( |
| 00:23 |
T_A_N_K |
well, i'm sick of smugness, i had enough of that in minecraft |
| 00:23 |
Octupus |
do i download all those files tank |
| 00:23 |
T_A_N_K |
just click ZIP |
| 00:24 |
T_A_N_K |
then unzip it, rename the file minetest_essentials |
| 00:24 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 00:25 |
T_A_N_K |
install minetest/games/Your_game_mode/mods/ and it should be good |
| 00:25 |
Octupus |
how i unzip? |
| 00:25 |
Octupus |
extract? |
| 00:25 |
LAD |
yea |
| 00:25 |
LAD |
extrct |
| 00:26 |
T_A_N_K |
minetest really needs to improve on windows |
| 00:27 |
T_A_N_K |
or c55 pull it out of windows and focus on linux |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
it needs some improvements in linux too |
| 00:27 |
Octupus |
im on windoes and it wudnt be fair to window player |
| 00:28 |
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| 00:28 |
NekoGloop |
Fuck you *nixfags |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
now now neko |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
tank is just being an ass :-) |
| 00:29 |
Octupus |
Tank |
| 00:29 |
Octupus |
where do i put the file? |
| 00:30 |
T_A_N_K |
minetest/games/Your_game_mode/mods/ |
| 00:30 |
Octupus |
your game mod? |
| 00:31 |
NekoGloop |
minetest/mods/minetest/ |
| 00:31 |
T_A_N_K |
yea, whatever game mode you have |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
minetest or minimal. |
| 00:31 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 00:31 |
Phitherek_ |
gtg |
| 00:31 |
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| 00:31 |
Phitherek_ |
bye |
| 00:31 |
Octupus |
i put it on |
| 00:31 |
T_A_N_K |
yay |
| 00:31 |
Octupus |
how ya use it now |
| 00:31 |
T_A_N_K |
try /setspawn |
| 00:32 |
Octupus |
setspawn worked |
| 00:32 |
T_A_N_K |
ok walk away from spawn and do /spawn |
| 00:32 |
Octupus |
brb i need 2 take a dump |
| 00:32 |
LAD |
XD TMI |
| 00:32 |
* Octupus |
goes to toilet |
| 00:36 |
T_A_N_K |
just so you know the rest because i am afk now: /setspawn, /spawn, you can die to respawn at spawn, you can set it so everytime a player logs back on they are at spawn, and i wouldn't recommend that unless you do something like skyblock |
| 00:36 |
T_A_N_K |
and newplayers go directly to spawn when it is set |
| 00:36 |
* VanessaE |
considers kicking tank just because. |
| 00:37 |
T_A_N_K |
and in fact i will include sometime like that in my new release of skyblock, which will come eventually |
| 00:37 |
T_A_N_K |
now brb |
| 01:04 |
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| 01:10 |
cornernote |
hi |
| 01:10 |
LAD |
hi |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 01:10 |
LAD |
hi |
| 01:11 |
LAD |
hmmmmmm |
| 01:12 |
LAD |
LM is the bigest loser |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
I think that's been generally established :-) |
| 01:12 |
LAD |
no but even biger between a few of us now |
| 01:13 |
LAD |
can i talk to u in PM |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
no, I'd prefer not |
| 01:13 |
LAD |
k fine |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
talk here |
| 01:13 |
LAD |
no cant |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
(why? |
| 01:14 |
LAD |
it something that not just any 1 can here |
| 01:14 |
Neirdan |
KGB spies, that's why. |
| 01:14 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 01:14 |
LAD |
its quit disberbing and sad |
| 01:15 |
Neirdan |
Yeah, especially since USSR is over. |
| 01:21 |
T_A_N_K |
re |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
wb. |
| 01:27 |
LAD |
hmm |
| 01:28 |
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| 01:28 |
T_A_N_K |
vannessa having standerdized russian racism? |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 01:28 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:30 |
LAD |
LM got his onw server taken today |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
he did? |
| 01:30 |
LAD |
yea XD |
| 01:30 |
LAD |
m13 shutit down |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
wasn't aware of that |
| 01:31 |
LAD |
yea m13 got prty mad at him |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
would you ask tank wtf he meant by russian racism? |
| 01:31 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
since he's ignoring me for some obscure reason |
| 01:31 |
T_A_N_K |
wait what happened? |
| 01:31 |
LAD |
lol |
| 01:31 |
LAD |
uhhh i realy dont know |
| 01:32 |
LAD |
oh now i remeber |
| 01:35 |
LAD |
LM got his server taken away couse... |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
because he's an asshole |
| 01:36 |
LAD |
he used teamveiwer to go on m13 computer and play minetest couse he was at his aunts house |
| 01:36 |
LAD |
and m13 got realy mad |
| 01:36 |
LAD |
couse he came back with him on his computer |
| 01:37 |
LAD |
so he kicked him off then shutdown his server |
| 01:37 |
LAD |
for ever |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
good |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
serves him right. |
| 01:37 |
LAD |
i know |
| 01:40 |
LAD |
any 1 know any good servers |
| 01:40 |
LAD |
ive bin looking for 1 |
| 01:45 |
LAD |
aquwerd silence |
| 01:48 |
T_A_N_K |
eventually, mine will be up |
| 01:48 |
T_A_N_K |
"eventually" |
| 01:48 |
T_A_N_K |
hey redcrab |
| 01:48 |
T_A_N_K |
do you have a 0.4.3 server? |
| 01:48 |
T_A_N_K |
"latest github" |
| 01:48 |
T_A_N_K |
redcrab runs the best servers |
| 01:48 |
LAD |
hmmm |
| 01:48 |
LAD |
i know |
| 01:48 |
LAD |
i have a acc on his |
| 01:49 |
LAD |
dous he have 0.4.3 |
| 01:49 |
T_A_N_K |
he did 6 months ago, i'm going to say it's the same now |
| 01:53 |
LAD |
woa weird redcrabs server is quit |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
not anymore :-) |
| 02:02 |
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| 02:02 |
* VanessaE |
randomly highlights NekoGloop just because :-) |
| 02:02 |
* NekoGloop |
dies |
| 02:02 |
LAD |
cya guys |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
bye |
| 02:05 |
* NekoGloop |
dead still |
| 02:07 |
T_A_N_K |
celeron55: when you see this, may i pm you about some things you can add into the game to make the game play smoother? |
| 02:10 |
T_A_N_K |
like: inertia, and that liquids don't slow you down instantly but gradually, as there is actual code to show you |
| 02:10 |
T_A_N_K |
and: when you fly, you don't go through blocks |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
That's the point of flying |
| 02:11 |
T_A_N_K |
well it's quite strange being able to go through blocks |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
Well maybe a fly-noclip mode |
| 02:12 |
T_A_N_K |
yea, but there's already code to actually show |
| 02:13 |
T_A_N_K |
does this: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/1wzuk, look like a goshdarn cow to anyone? it looks physically handicapped |
| 02:13 |
T_A_N_K |
that poor cow |
| 02:16 |
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| 02:16 |
Octupus |
TANK IM SO SORRY |
| 02:16 |
T_A_N_K |
no offense to you sapier of course |
| 02:16 |
Octupus |
my internet cut off |
| 02:16 |
Octupus |
and it didnt come back til just now im so very srry |
| 02:17 |
Octupus |
/setspawm works |
| 02:17 |
T_A_N_K |
no reason to be sorry |
| 02:17 |
T_A_N_K |
yay |
| 02:18 |
Octupus |
and /spawn and respawning back there when u die works |
| 02:18 |
Octupus |
anything else u waant me to test |
| 02:18 |
T_A_N_K |
kill yourself in the game in lava |
| 02:18 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 02:19 |
Octupus |
its says something about come on (whoever) when u die |
| 02:20 |
T_A_N_K |
yay! |
| 02:20 |
T_A_N_K |
okay it all works |
| 02:20 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 02:20 |
Octupus |
is that all? |
| 02:20 |
T_A_N_K |
for now |
| 02:20 |
T_A_N_K |
time for sethome |
| 02:20 |
Octupus |
its very awesome |
| 02:20 |
Octupus |
cant wait to see it when its finished |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
Look at whoever already has a sethome |
| 02:21 |
T_A_N_K |
no, because my sethome is going to be for the worlds, and going to work with essentials lol |
| 02:21 |
* T_A_N_K |
bangs fists on the table |
| 02:21 |
T_A_N_K |
time for work |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
? |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Sethome works perfect for me |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Also stores in player files lolz |
| 02:22 |
T_A_N_K |
no, i mean it's going to be incorperated with essentials spawn |
| 02:22 |
T_A_N_K |
no time to explain brb\ |
| 02:31 |
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| 02:31 |
M13 |
Vanessa |
| 02:31 |
M13 |
you here? |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:32 |
M13 |
hey |
| 02:32 |
M13 |
i made a Server site for my servers |
| 02:32 |
M13 |
can you delete my other posts |
| 02:32 |
Octupus |
hi m13 |
| 02:32 |
M13 |
or close them |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
I know, weebly.something-or-other |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
no need to delete them, just don't create any more :-) |
| 02:33 |
M13 |
its http://minetestservers.weebly.com |
| 02:33 |
Octupus |
m13 i tested out tanks protection thing |
| 02:33 |
Octupus |
it was awesome |
| 02:34 |
M13 |
tanks protection thing? |
| 02:34 |
Octupus |
yes |
| 02:35 |
Octupus |
like a easier way to set spawn |
| 02:35 |
Octupus |
its gonn ahve more stuff later |
| 02:37 |
Octupus |
m13 some1 in on the server |
| 02:37 |
T_A_N_K |
welp sethome is done..lol.. |
| 02:37 |
M13 |
Octupus |
| 02:37 |
M13 |
Tank |
| 02:37 |
T_A_N_K |
me! |
| 02:37 |
M13 |
what is it under |
| 02:37 |
M13 |
ur mod |
| 02:37 |
T_A_N_K |
my hard drive? |
| 02:37 |
T_A_N_K |
oh, it's not done |
| 02:37 |
T_A_N_K |
but it's githubby |
| 02:39 |
M13 |
what is the link |
| 02:39 |
Octupus |
yes m13 |
| 02:39 |
Octupus |
its very nice |
| 02:40 |
T_A_N_K |
but it's not even close to it |
| 02:40 |
T_A_N_K |
ljkgadljkasdg;jkl you guys like don't even understand what it's going to be "hopefully" soon |
| 02:40 |
Octupus |
m13 did u get node_protection |
| 02:41 |
M13 |
no |
| 02:41 |
M13 |
one |
| 02:41 |
M13 |
sec |
| 02:42 |
Octupus |
because skully is protecting the road with the blocks |
| 02:43 |
M13 |
im installing node protection and server essentails |
| 02:43 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 02:44 |
M13 |
Octupus stop the server |
| 02:44 |
Octupus |
how? |
| 02:44 |
M13 |
/shutdown |
| 02:45 |
Octupus |
what shud happen when i do that |
| 02:45 |
Octupus |
ok its down |
| 02:47 |
Octupus |
anything magical suppose to happen |
| 02:49 |
NekoGloop |
Nope, |
| 02:49 |
Octupus |
:( |
| 02:49 |
Octupus |
guess i have to wait |
| 02:50 |
Octupus |
M13,You there |
| 02:53 |
M13 |
Its installed |
| 02:53 |
M13 |
tank |
| 02:53 |
Octupus |
ok good |
| 02:53 |
M13 |
hey tank |
| 02:53 |
M13 |
Octupus |
| 02:53 |
M13 |
how do you set the spawn |
| 02:53 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 02:53 |
M13 |
with that mod |
| 02:54 |
Octupus |
/setspawn |
| 02:54 |
Octupus |
easiest thing to rememeber |
| 02:59 |
M13 |
done |
| 03:00 |
M13 |
Servers have the mods? |
| 03:00 |
M13 |
! i mean |
| 03:00 |
Octupus |
he gone so fast |
| 03:00 |
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| 03:01 |
Octupus |
who wants to know my password |
| 03:01 |
khonkhortisan |
server password or irc password? |
| 03:02 |
Octupus |
server and irc |
| 03:02 |
khonkhortisan |
I like my username |
| 03:02 |
Octupus |
no |
| 03:03 |
khonkhortisan |
that reminds me, I use the same password too many places |
| 03:03 |
Octupus |
me 2 |
| 03:03 |
NekoGloop |
I literally have jibberish as my password (except on irc, nick is unregistered) |
| 03:04 |
NekoGloop |
I have a sheet with all the jibberish passwords |
| 03:04 |
khonkhortisan |
there's a firefox addon that shows graphically with connected dots how many places you use the same or similar passwords, but unfortunately it doesn't require the master password to view them. |
| 03:04 |
Octupus |
i use the same password that redcrab gave me |
| 03:06 |
Octupus |
any1 doing anything creative |
| 03:10 |
khonkhortisan |
improving the chess mod, trying to make a mesecon track-changing music player, but worldedit caused everything to go dark and I don't know how to recalculate the lighting. |
| 03:10 |
T_A_N_K |
hey khon! |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
just the person i wanted to ask! |
| 03:11 |
Octupus |
what do u mean by worldedit going dark |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
if i do this: |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
local file = io.open(minetest.get_worldpath().."/"..player:get_player_name().."_home", "r") |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
if not file then |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
print("WOOT!") |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
return |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
end |
| 03:11 |
T_A_N_K |
how the heck do i close file? |
| 03:12 |
T_A_N_K |
as "file" being a local variable |
| 03:12 |
khonkhortisan |
worldedit //set air doesn't change lighting, while //dig does. If you //set air the lighting still acts like the node is there |
| 03:12 |
Octupus |
ohh |
| 03:15 |
cornernote |
with setyaw(radians) .. is radians 0-360 ? |
| 03:15 |
khonkhortisan |
maybe file:close() |
| 03:16 |
khonkhortisan |
try printing yaw to console while you turn around, it goes from -4 to 1 to 7 I wouldn't trust it. Lua yaw isn't the same thing as F5 yaw. |
| 03:16 |
Bad_Command |
cornernote: radians are in pi-units |
| 03:18 |
Bad_Command |
2*pi radians in a circle |
| 03:18 |
T_A_N_K |
i did that a minute ago and it didn't work, now it worked lol |
| 03:18 |
Octupus |
can some1 give me a short code |
| 03:18 |
Neirdan |
You forgot /180 |
| 03:18 |
Octupus |
in LUA |
| 03:19 |
T_A_N_K |
oh no wait it doesn't i get: attempt to index local 'file' (a nil value) |
| 03:19 |
Octupus |
any1 got a short code in lua |
| 03:20 |
khonkhortisan |
setyaw(math.deg(90)) |
| 03:20 |
Neirdan |
http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/search.html > search for LUA |
| 03:20 |
cornernote |
basically i want to generate an object, and i want to turn it to a random angle |
| 03:20 |
khonkhortisan |
I mean setyaw(math.rad(90)) |
| 03:20 |
cornernote |
e:setyaw(math.random(0,360)) <-- didnt work |
| 03:21 |
Octupus |
99 bottels of beer |
| 03:21 |
khonkhortisan |
setyaw(math.rad(math.random(0,360))) |
| 03:21 |
cornernote |
thanks |
| 03:21 |
Neirdan |
Yeah, you wanted some short code in LUA, there you go. |
| 03:21 |
khonkhortisan |
99 bottles of beer! |
| 03:21 |
cornernote |
but its 1-360 right ? |
| 03:21 |
cornernote |
360 = 0 |
| 03:22 |
Octupus |
an example neirdan |
| 03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
>0 to 360 or 0 to <360, either way. |
| 03:22 |
Octupus |
but thank you |
| 03:22 |
cornernote |
ok, awesome, it works. thanks! |
| 03:22 |
Neirdan |
http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-lua-365.html < this is an example of LUA code. |
| 03:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't put spaces around my ..s |
| 03:23 |
khonkhortisan |
a.b..c.d |
| 03:23 |
Octupus |
gracias Neirdan |
| 03:23 |
Octupus |
i ran it |
| 03:25 |
cornernote |
setyaw - it works with a cube, but not with a sprite |
| 03:26 |
cornernote |
i revamped the particles mod |
| 03:26 |
* VanessaE |
's ears perk up |
| 03:26 |
* khonkhortisan |
is interested |
| 03:26 |
cornernote |
when you smash a block, 3d textured cubes scatter in random directions |
| 03:27 |
cornernote |
also, other mods can more easily hook into it |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
do they use the old textures? |
| 03:27 |
cornernote |
they use whatever texture is in your game |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 03:27 |
cornernote |
eg, dirt uses the dirt texture |
| 03:27 |
cornernote |
at the moment im doing bookshelves |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
I hope it's dozens of little bitty cubes |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
I mean shitloads of. |
| 03:27 |
cornernote |
when you smash them, you guessed it, books fly everywhere |
| 03:27 |
cornernote |
how many ? |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
bookshelves? use wood *and* books. |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
Oh I dunno, maybe 50 or so really tiny ones |
| 03:28 |
cornernote |
i havent got support for multiple yet, but thats a good idea |
| 03:28 |
cornernote |
tiny ones dont look good |
| 03:28 |
cornernote |
cos they are 3d cubes |
| 03:28 |
cornernote |
have a play |
| 03:28 |
cornernote |
https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-particles |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
well tiny as in say 1/64 |
| 03:29 |
cornernote |
they are 11-17% of the normal size |
| 03:29 |
cornernote |
smaller looked crappy |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
if you cut a cube into 4x4x4, the size of one of those mini-cubes |
| 03:29 |
cornernote |
to get more particles, change particles.dig_particles=8 |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
I'll play with it later, busy building on redcrab:30401 |
| 03:30 |
cornernote |
to change the size... line 35 - local size = math.random(11,17)/100 |
| 03:30 |
cornernote |
if you get a nicer look, do a pull request |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
couldn't resolve redcrab address |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
redcrab.suret.net port 30401 |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
(uses 0.4.3 and up) |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
modname is wrong |
| 03:32 |
cornernote |
im not posting particles on the forums until i hear back from sfan5 |
| 03:32 |
cornernote |
i'll see if he wants to merge my changes |
| 03:32 |
cornernote |
cos its basically a re-write of his mod |
| 03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
chat history segfault |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
F10 bug eh .. |
| 03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
"n" bug for me |
| 03:34 |
Octupus |
segfault is becoming horrible |
| 03:34 |
NekoGloop |
Unless you mean the user ;) |
| 03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
"L" to you |
| 03:35 |
khonkhortisan |
the dirt particles don't start as a complete cube |
| 03:35 |
cornernote |
i see, you cant set the yaw of a sprite, cos it always points at you |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
render it as a really *really* thin cube |
| 03:35 |
NekoGloop |
Yes and that is annoying as fawk. |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
agreed with neko |
| 03:36 |
NekoGloop |
But still, 49 object limit. |
| 03:36 |
cornernote |
VanessaE, how do i do that ? |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: you seeing this? :-) |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: I'm not sure off the top of my head. Sapier could tell you though |
| 03:37 |
NekoGloop |
Wield image |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
I'm checking out the current git of particles now. |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: not bad. |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
they need a little more vertical arc |
| 03:41 |
Octupus |
$name="Octupuslegs"; print "$name says Hi To Vanessa\n"; |
| 03:41 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't use the public toilet without build privs? |
| 03:41 |
khonkhortisan |
there. Have to dig both parts of the door. |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: oooo |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
local size = math.random(5,6)/100 and particles.dig_particles=64 |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
= nice |
| 03:43 |
* khonkhortisan |
did the noob move and dug the glass at the spawn and landed on light blue wool |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
oops! |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
need help getting out? |
| 03:44 |
khonkhortisan |
nah, not 'till I get privs |
| 03:44 |
khonkhortisan |
under the wool, there's water! |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
go over to http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1705 and request it :-) |
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| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: this server runs node_ownership, so most of the spawn is owned by redcrab; you'll need someone to dig you out |
| 03:46 |
khonkhortisan |
my compositing was going crazy |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: *poke* |
| 03:51 |
khonkhortisan |
Apparently the current version of minetest isn't 0.4.3 |
| 03:52 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't know this answer! (N.N) |
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T_A_N_K |
essentials home now works with essentials spawn https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Essentials |
| 03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
"What is the current stable version of Minetest? (N.N)" <-- Does anyone know this? |
| 03:53 |
T_A_N_K |
0.4 |
| 03:54 |
NekoGloop |
It's 9.9 |
| 03:54 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. I tried 0.4.3, 4.3, 4.2, 3.1, 4.0, 4.1, but you're right it's 0.4 |
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| 03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
Will I be able to tell whether people are looking up or down any time soon? |
| 03:58 |
NekoGloop |
No |
| 03:59 |
T_A_N_K |
maybe |
| 03:59 |
T_A_N_K |
if someone can create a mod which plasters a node box to the players 2d body |
| 03:59 |
T_A_N_K |
then just make the 2d body texture opaqiue |
| 03:59 |
T_A_N_K |
and bam you have a 3d body |
| 04:00 |
T_A_N_K |
you could make custom skins that way |
| 04:00 |
T_A_N_K |
it would be awesome actually, maybe the nodebox would lag a little, but you could still see where the player looks |
| 04:01 |
T_A_N_K |
it would take quite a bit of code though |
| 04:01 |
khonkhortisan |
or the 2D texture could bend at the neck |
| 04:01 |
T_A_N_K |
but really, if you wanted a custom skin, just imgur it, and the server admin, and he could install it in, then set your player to use that skin |
| 04:01 |
T_A_N_K |
i think i'm thinking too far ahead |
| 04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
why when you could have a /skin mod? |
| 04:02 |
T_A_N_K |
because a skin mod would require what i just said, only slightly thicker than the 2d sprite, that'd be kind of easy |
| 04:02 |
T_A_N_K |
but i'm not doing it, i don't know how to get players position |
| 04:03 |
khonkhortisan |
player's position is easy, the hard part is rotating a nodebox |
| 04:03 |
khonkhortisan |
only raillike/plantlike/torchlike is allowed to have diagonal faces |
| 04:04 |
T_A_N_K |
get_look_pitch(): and get_look_dir(): |
| 04:04 |
T_A_N_K |
umm if you want to know how to rotate boxes look at this, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629 |
| 04:05 |
T_A_N_K |
the only mob that made the game slightly challenging was the wolf, but they have no animation |
| 04:05 |
T_A_N_K |
it's kind of creepy |
| 04:05 |
NekoGloop |
Vombies just kind of randomly stop in the middle of nowhere |
| 04:06 |
T_A_N_K |
yea, the ai for that is too overcomplicated, i think sapier should just focus on 1 mob, and then really SUPE up the ai |
| 04:06 |
khonkhortisan |
those are luaentities, and can't collide with the player yet. |
| 04:06 |
T_A_N_K |
that's the point |
| 04:06 |
T_A_N_K |
they'll just "skin" the player |
| 04:06 |
khonkhortisan |
Yeah that would work for the player, just put it over, like clothes. |
| 04:06 |
T_A_N_K |
exactly, every 1 dtime or something |
| 04:07 |
T_A_N_K |
1 "tick" |
| 04:08 |
T_A_N_K |
shouldn't cause any server lag, the only thing i can see making the server a little laggy is if you pin a 3d model to the player |
| 04:08 |
T_A_N_K |
it's quite possible through lua, but very difficult |
| 04:19 |
cornernote |
is there a way to set on_receive_fields() for the player object ? |
| 04:19 |
NekoGloop |
Probably not? |
| 04:21 |
cornernote |
got it - minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields(function(player, formname, fields) |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: did you see my comment earlier re "ooooo"? |
| 04:22 |
cornernote |
no |
| 04:23 |
* cornernote |
scrolls |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
[09-15 23:42] <VanessaE> local size = math.random(5,6)/100 and particles.dig_particles=64 |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
[09-15 23:43] <VanessaE> = nice |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
I'm too lazy to fork+PR :-) |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
lemme try that now |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
and, |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
give them a much higher arc |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
at least twice as high |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
ok, more y+ |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
64 .. isnt that too many ? |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
seems fine on my box |
| 04:24 |
cornernote |
ok, testing now |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
when you're displaying thousands of nodes, I think a few dozen more won't have much effect :-)\ |
| 04:24 |
cornernote |
LOL |
| 04:25 |
cornernote |
that looks cool |
| 04:25 |
cornernote |
i'll add the y+ |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
of course, that's because *I* thought of it :D |
| 04:25 |
cornernote |
honestly, i didnt even try before, i thought it would look crap |
| 04:27 |
cornernote |
ok, with y++ the bounce looks funny |
| 04:27 |
cornernote |
the particles need to live longer |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 04:28 |
T_A_N_K |
what ae you guys trying to do/ |
| 04:28 |
khonkhortisan |
particles having textures instead of just colors |
| 04:29 |
NekoGloop |
And 3d |
| 04:29 |
T_A_N_K |
oh ok |
| 04:29 |
T_A_N_K |
bb |
| 04:31 |
khonkhortisan |
Is there a way to cleanly reopen a github issue? |
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| 04:31 |
M13_ |
Hello |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
back |
| 04:33 |
M13 |
hey Vanessa |
| 04:34 |
M13 |
do you know what OS is better than Ubuntu |
| 04:34 |
NekoGloop |
Windows |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
Ubuntu is not an OS, it is a distribution |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
but for most users it's about the best Linux distribution right now |
| 04:35 |
M13 |
its a Operating System |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 04:35 |
M13 |
?? |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
Linux is the operating system. |
| 04:35 |
M13 |
so ur saying Linux is a OS |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
(or GNU/Linux if you want to be pedantic about it) |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
yes, that is correct for all intents and purposes. |
| 04:35 |
M13 |
ok |
| 04:36 |
M13 |
Do you know what Distro is better than Ubuntu |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
depends on how you define "better: |
| 04:36 |
M13 |
Faster, smaller, More stable |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
if you mean easier to use, it's a toss-up between Ubuntu and Mint. If you mean for getting down and dirty with the OS, Gentoo. If you wanted to just run a good server, Debian maybe |
| 04:37 |
M13 |
nope |
| 04:37 |
M13 |
SliTaz |
| 04:37 |
M13 |
:-) |
| 04:37 |
M13 |
its iso is 15 MB |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
I've never heard of any stability issues with Ubuntu that didn't eventually affect everyone else |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
that's just the installer. |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
it'll still take 5-10 GB of disk space once it's fully loaded. |
| 04:37 |
M13 |
takes 20 Seconds to install |
| 04:37 |
M13 |
No its not |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
most linux distributions download what they need from the net. |
| 04:38 |
M13 |
The iso is the live cd |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
a live CD is not an installer, but it may come with one. |
| 04:38 |
M13 |
yea |
| 04:38 |
M13 |
that is what i mean |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
a fully-installed system with everything the average person is likely to want takes around 5GB at the least. |
| 04:39 |
M13 |
The Live CD / Installer iso is 15 MB |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
and that includes all the stuff you'll eventually apt-get |
| 04:39 |
khonkhortisan |
found the compass |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
the ISO is not the same thing as the installed size. |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: yeah, what's left of it :-/ |
| 04:39 |
M13 |
and SliTaz installed is 552 MB installed |
| 04:39 |
M13 |
on the drive |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
did you compare it with *everything* installed? |
| 04:40 |
M13 |
yes |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
I mean open office, firefox, build-essential, the whole smash? |
| 04:40 |
M13 |
With XChat and all its 1 BG |
| 04:40 |
M13 |
GB* |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
just wait. you'll soon see it taking 5+ GB :-) |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
mark my words |
| 04:40 |
M13 |
ok |
| 04:40 |
* VanessaE |
hands you a red pen for the purpose |
| 04:41 |
M13 |
lolz |
| 04:41 |
* M13 |
doesnt take it |
| 04:41 |
M13 |
and Vanessa |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
hm? |
| 04:41 |
M13 |
The Live CD iso comes with a gui |
| 04:42 |
M13 |
its Graphical |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
most do :-) |
| 04:42 |
M13 |
yea |
| 04:42 |
M13 |
but 15MB |
| 04:42 |
M13 |
0>0 |
| 04:42 |
Neirdan |
0=0 |
| 04:42 |
M13 |
SMALL |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
ISO size != installed size. :-) |
| 04:42 |
M13 |
ik |
| 04:43 |
M13 |
its like puppy |
| 04:43 |
M13 |
puppy linux |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
Ubuntu ISOs come with a ton of shit on them, 650 or so MB, but takes lesse.. 8.1GB on my system, with everything under the sun installed |
| 04:45 |
M13 |
i see |
| 04:45 |
M13 |
but Packages for SliTaz is like small to |
| 04:46 |
M13 |
600 KB |
| 04:46 |
M13 |
for XChat |
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
vanessa rainbird:~$ apt-cache show xchat |
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
[...] |
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
Size: 360636 |
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 04:47 |
M13 |
Vanessa |
| 04:47 |
M13 |
ok |
| 04:47 |
M13 |
Ubuntu is Better |
| 04:47 |
NekoGloop |
Every other number is a 6 |
| 04:47 |
NekoGloop |
There are 6 numbers |
| 04:47 |
M13 |
but SliTaz is the Best small lightwieght distro |
| 04:48 |
VanessaE |
name another package :-) |
| 04:48 |
M13 |
for SliTaz |
| 04:48 |
VanessaE |
remember, "lightweight" also means "devoid of features". |
| 04:48 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 04:48 |
M13 |
:-( |
| 04:49 |
M13 |
im devoided of features |
| 04:49 |
M13 |
loz |
| 04:49 |
M13 |
lolz |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
haha, well in software anyway :-) |
| 04:49 |
M13 |
Audacious 2 |
| 04:49 |
M13 |
cache? |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
Size: 397728 |
| 04:50 |
NekoGloop |
I liked the other one better |
| 04:50 |
NekoGloop |
I could make a creepypasta reference off the other one. |
| 04:51 |
M13 |
<VanessaE> Size: 397728 : Is this bytes |
| 04:52 |
NekoGloop |
Also the song death waltz starts with the sixth key from the left three times. |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
bytes, yes. |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
so about 396k |
| 04:52 |
M13 |
Vanessa try FireFox |
| 04:52 |
M13 |
3.0 |
| 04:52 |
M13 |
Firefox 3.0 |
| 04:52 |
OldCoder |
3.6 might work |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
Size: 18150878 for firefox 4.x/15 |
| 04:53 |
M13 |
ok close enuf |
| 04:53 |
VanessaE |
no one uses firefox 3.0 anymore, it's way outdated. |
| 04:55 |
M13 |
its Small |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
it's obsolete :-) |
| 04:55 |
M13 |
and it Comes with all the plugins (e.g. Adobe & Java) |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
you mean it comes with gnash and icedtea :-) |
| 04:58 |
M13 |
yes |
| 04:58 |
M13 |
lolz |
| 04:58 |
M13 |
thanks what i ment |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
gnash is shit, and the regular iced tea doesn' |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
't work with hardly anything |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
don't be fooled by "lightweight" claims, you have to look at each package and see what's being left out |
| 04:59 |
M13 |
Please |
| 04:59 |
M13 |
I Like SliTaz |
| 04:59 |
M13 |
please dont dis it |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
I'm not dissing it at all |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
I'm just making sure you understand that you'll be losing something if you go with "lightweight" over "works well" :-) |
| 05:00 |
NekoGloop |
On another network, someone said theyd change their name to "ExplodingPenguins". |
| 05:00 |
M13 |
Vanessa |
| 05:01 |
M13 |
Im using 15 Year old Hardware lolz |
| 05:01 |
NekoGloop |
I said: "we blowing up linux?" |
| 05:01 |
M13 |
NO Neko |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
15 years old? you still running a 486? :-) |
| 05:01 |
M13 |
ok 2002 |
| 05:01 |
M13 |
10 |
| 05:01 |
NekoGloop |
Lolz |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
What? |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
2002 isn't 15 years old |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
I hope |
| 05:02 |
M13 |
lolz |
| 05:02 |
M13 |
its not |
| 05:02 |
M13 |
only 10 |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
Did I lose another 5 years? |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
he said "10" after that. 2002 ok so pentium 3 era :-) |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
*blink* |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 05:02 |
M13 |
Pentium 4 |
| 05:02 |
NekoGloop |
No it's 2017 and you slept too long. |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
ok, P4 ain't too bad |
| 05:02 |
M13 |
ik |
| 05:02 |
M13 |
it runs Ubuntu 12.04 |
| 05:03 |
M13 |
And it Runs Ok |
| 05:03 |
M13 |
is a 128 MB Graphics Card good for a computer like this |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
no :-) |
| 05:04 |
M13 |
no |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
need MOAR FPS |
| 05:04 |
M13 |
:-( |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
MOAR RAM |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
MOAR shaderz |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
etc ;) |
| 05:05 |
M13 |
i got 512 MB of RAM |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
simply put, cram as much gfx power as you can into the machine |
| 05:05 |
M13 |
no |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
a good GPU can make up for a low-speed CPU depending on the application. |
| 05:06 |
M13 |
what does GPU mean |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
(especially if you use anything that goes GPGPU computing) |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
GPu = Graphics Processing Unit |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
e.g. your video card. |
| 05:06 |
M13 |
ok |
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VanessaE |
(or more specifically, the main chip on it that does all the hard work) |
| 05:06 |
M13 |
i got a ok graphics card and Processor |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
what do you have? |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
nvidia |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
what model? |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
4200 or something |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
i dont remember |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
ill check |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
4200M? |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
yes |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
Fir GateWay |
| 05:08 |
M13 |
But |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
looks it up |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE |
mm, low-end but not terrible. |
| 05:09 |
M13 |
I got a High end Computer for its Age so.. yea |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE |
should be able to handle minetest playably. |
| 05:09 |
M13 |
it does |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE |
(don't expect to run HDX on it though ;) ) |
| 05:09 |
M13 |
30 FPS |
| 05:09 |
M13 |
HDX? |
| 05:09 |
M13 |
whats that |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE |
HDX = my GPU-raping photorealistic texture pack :-) |
| 05:10 |
M13 |
yea |
| 05:10 |
M13 |
lolz |
| 05:10 |
M13 |
i can run Photorealistic Textures |
| 05:10 |
M13 |
10 FPS |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
try a smaller size |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
if you can pull off 10FPD with the 512px size, the 64px size might give you 30+ |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
s/FPD/FPS/ |
| 05:11 |
NekoGloop |
Try 1x1 |
| 05:11 |
M13 |
did |
| 05:11 |
M13 |
70 FPS |
| 05:11 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 05:11 |
M13 |
but looks crappy |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:12 |
M13 |
1x1 Textures Suck |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
I should make a 1x1 version just for shits and grins :-) |
| 05:12 |
NekoGloop |
That's my line, vanessae |
| 05:12 |
NekoGloop |
Heh(c)NekoGloop |
| 05:12 |
M13 |
is simpleCraft a good Texture pack |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
never used it |
| 05:13 |
NekoGloop |
Just use default |
| 05:13 |
M13 |
What is a good looking 8 - 16 pix texture pack? |
| 05:13 |
NekoGloop |
It's called default |
| 05:13 |
M13 |
Default is ugly |
| 05:13 |
NekoGloop |
Default is what mods build off of |
| 05:13 |
M13 |
ill stick with Minecraft from Jordach |
| 05:14 |
M13 |
it Supports most mods |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
different subject - on redcrab:30401, what mod supplies the mese axe that's used with the timber mod? |
| 05:17 |
NekoGloop |
Mese builder's start kit |
| 05:17 |
NekoGloop |
I think |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1179 |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
this one? |
| 05:17 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe? |
| 05:19 |
M13 |
it Supports most mods |
| 05:19 |
M13 |
srry |
| 05:19 |
* M13 |
is AFK |
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MachinaeWolf |
Oh yay there's a channel |
| 05:19 |
hmmmm |
hrmm |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
oh yes |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 05:20 |
MachinaeWolf |
lol hi |
| 05:20 |
MachinaeWolf |
I'm having these issues: http://pastebin.com/RHBtRk7z |
| 05:21 |
MachinaeWolf |
I have all dependencies and it built but keeps telling me that stuff |
| 05:21 |
hmmmm |
MachinaeWolf: Perhaps it cannot load crack_anylength.png. |
| 05:21 |
hmmmm |
Did you actually check the directory for that image...? |
| 05:21 |
MachinaeWolf |
well I'm assuming that's a default thing as it loads that on normal world... |
| 05:21 |
MachinaeWolf |
nope |
| 05:21 |
MachinaeWolf |
shouldn't it just be there...? |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
MachinaeWolf: that's not a fatal error, it means you're just missing a couple of images - maybe your install is damaged? |
| 05:22 |
hmmmm |
Wait, so you just downloaded it and as it gives you that error as is? |
| 05:22 |
hmmmm |
You haven't changed anything? |
| 05:22 |
MachinaeWolf |
nope all I did was add a mod folder in mods that's it |
| 05:22 |
MachinaeWolf |
but it gives those errors on default no mod world >_< |
| 05:22 |
MachinaeWolf |
so it ain't the mod's fault |
| 05:23 |
hmmmm |
You may have inadvertantly removed those images or replaced them. |
| 05:23 |
MachinaeWolf |
...how? |
| 05:23 |
hmmmm |
Try downloading a new copy of minetest, and replacing the images with those |
| 05:23 |
MachinaeWolf |
k |
| 05:23 |
MachinaeWolf |
goes it textures folder? |
| 05:24 |
hmmmm |
Should go in games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures |
| 05:24 |
MachinaeWolf |
yeah there was no default there |
| 05:25 |
hmmmm |
You totally nuked your default game directory somehow. I'd just redownload at this point and transfer over your worlds. |
| 05:26 |
MachinaeWolf |
but all I did was follow build directions... |
| 05:26 |
MachinaeWolf |
the hell? |
| 05:26 |
hmmmm |
Beats me. |
| 05:27 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe because you're using linux |
| 05:27 |
MachinaeWolf |
I am |
| 05:27 |
NekoGloop |
Use windows |
| 05:27 |
MachinaeWolf |
grr |
| 05:27 |
hmmmm |
That's not a solution at all. |
| 05:27 |
MachinaeWolf |
nope |
| 05:27 |
NekoGloop |
It's completely a solution |
| 05:27 |
hmmmm |
No. It's not. |
| 05:27 |
NekoGloop |
Just not the one you like. |
| 05:27 |
MachinaeWolf |
Um I picked the latest stable source |
| 05:28 |
MachinaeWolf |
so how would re-grabbing it help? |
| 05:28 |
MachinaeWolf |
When I was going to do the same instructions again... |
| 05:28 |
NekoGloop |
And windows gets prebuilt versions |
| 05:28 |
MachinaeWolf |
well this one has an old version but that doesn't have the mod support |
| 05:28 |
MachinaeWolf |
so that's why I'm building it |
| 05:28 |
hmmmm |
Oh, are you completely missing minetest_game? |
| 05:29 |
MachinaeWolf |
nah I have that |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
But it's obviously not complete because you're missing those images |
| 05:29 |
MachinaeWolf |
I placed it in extracted minetest then games |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
Where did you download minetest_game from? |
| 05:29 |
MachinaeWolf |
http://minetest.net/download.php#source |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
You did a checkout? |
| 05:29 |
NekoGloop |
There's a repo |
| 05:30 |
NekoGloop |
For minetest_game |
| 05:30 |
MachinaeWolf |
well 'buntu repos aren't good for debian |
| 05:30 |
hmmmm |
Yes... tar.gz, zip, or github? |
| 05:30 |
MachinaeWolf |
I used the tar |
| 05:31 |
MachinaeWolf |
or was I supposed to empty all contents of minetest_game into minetest\games ? |
| 05:31 |
hmmmm |
crack_anylength.png and what not are there |
| 05:31 |
MachinaeWolf |
Cause I just cut and pasted what was in minetest_game but didn't plop it outside every individual folder |
| 05:31 |
khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, you'll have to improve the city jail, those doors wouldn't keep a non-privved criminal in |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
can't do anything about it, there isn't any kind of steel door or anything |
| 05:32 |
khonkhortisan |
is that steel cobble? |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
besides, it's more decorative than functional |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
it's ironstone brick (from moreblocks) |
| 05:32 |
MachinaeWolf |
hmmmm, I see the images in there |
| 05:32 |
MachinaeWolf |
game doesn't though... |
| 05:32 |
hmmmm |
Oh... |
| 05:32 |
hmmmm |
Just curious |
| 05:32 |
MachinaeWolf |
did I miss something? |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
You see grass and everything, right? |
| 05:33 |
khonkhortisan |
I have to go read up on wool |
| 05:33 |
MachinaeWolf |
yep |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
Okay, this is a bug. |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
Unless those specific images got corrupted somehow |
| 05:33 |
MachinaeWolf |
hmm let me see |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
Try viewing them in an external image viewer... |
| 05:34 |
MachinaeWolf |
works |
| 05:34 |
hmmmm |
No idea.. |
| 05:34 |
hmmmm |
both crack_anylength.png and heart.png are there? |
| 05:34 |
hmmmm |
in the same directory as all the other textures? |
| 05:34 |
MachinaeWolf |
yep and both load and yes |
| 05:36 |
MachinaeWolf |
Now what? |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
Hrm |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
If it were a file not found type of error, you should've seen "SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for heart.png" |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
createImageFromFile is failing, apparently.. |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
I'm out of ideas =/ |
| 05:41 |
MachinaeWolf |
:/ |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
Wait |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
Look in debug.txt |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
Try to find the text 'getOrLoad' |
| 05:42 |
MachinaeWolf |
k |
| 05:43 |
MachinaeWolf |
This one? |
| 05:43 |
MachinaeWolf |
00:05:43: INFO[main]: SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for "" |
| 05:43 |
hmmmm |
Okay that was the problem then |
| 05:43 |
hmmmm |
Things make more sense I guess |
| 05:43 |
hmmmm |
Can you show me the lines surrounding that? |
| 05:44 |
MachinaeWolf |
hang on |
| 05:46 |
MachinaeWolf |
http://pastebin.com/67A3Xven |
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MachinaeWolf |
Is it looking in the wrong directory? |
| 05:57 |
hmmmm |
I really would like to get to the bottom of this but in the meantime, to patch it over, I guess you could put it in texture_path |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
in minetest.conf add a line |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
texture_path = /home/todd/mt_textures |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
and then make a directory called mt_textures in your home directory |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
and put heart.png and crack_anylength.png in there |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
copy them there |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
and see if that'll work |
| 05:59 |
hmmmm |
If after this it still doesn't work, then something is busted with the cache |
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MachinaeWolf |
yeah that worked hmmmm |
| 06:04 |
MachinaeWolf |
thanks :) |
| 06:05 |
hmmmm |
Something's still broken. |
| 06:05 |
hmmmm |
That's just a bandage. |
| 06:05 |
MachinaeWolf |
right but I'm grateful for the tip :) |
| 06:06 |
MachinaeWolf |
hmm well not working on the mod one... |
| 06:06 |
MachinaeWolf |
weird |
| 06:11 |
MachinaeWolf |
unless it just takes longer to build the world...? |
| 06:12 |
MachinaeWolf |
Is it supposed to do this on mods ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player ? |
| 06:14 |
hmmmm |
I really have no idea =/ |
| 06:14 |
hmmmm |
Sorry |
| 06:15 |
MachinaeWolf |
kinda why I wanted the newest stable :/ |
| 06:31 |
cy1 |
https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-giftchest - gift chests |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
new texture pack updates today - added support for xpanes, mese starter kit, and mese axe from timber mod |
| 06:36 |
hmmmm |
Holy shit |
| 06:36 |
hmmmm |
I just got map generation twice as fast |
| 06:36 |
hmmmm |
and it's the most inconspicuous thing too |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
how? |
| 06:37 |
hmmmm |
I optimized easeCurve |
| 06:37 |
hmmmm |
I removed all calls to the slow CRT pow() |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
now to get c55 to accept it |
| 06:37 |
hmmmm |
On its own it's 8 times as fast, but I figured that the amount of time reduced would be insigifnicant to the rest of it |
| 06:37 |
hmmmm |
Baha |
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NakedFury |
woah thats cool |
| 06:38 |
NakedFury |
is it final or just you still tweaking it? |
| 06:38 |
hmmmm |
I don't give a flying fuck about if he accepts it or not... it's for me, and I'll share it, but if he wants to be a dick about it, that's fine too. |
| 06:38 |
hmmmm |
This is just a tweak. I'm doing a whole lot more. |
| 06:38 |
NakedFury |
awesome. thats the word |
| 06:44 |
hmmmm |
with optimization: 451581us -O2, 2990028us -O0 without optimization: 3558594us -O2, 5982680us -O0 |
| 06:44 |
hmmmm |
to generate 250000 nodes |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
jeez |
| 06:45 |
hmmmm |
lemme check out the master branch |
| 06:47 |
hmmmm |
If anybody wants a faster mapgen, well, faster anything that uses perlin noise, modity noise.cpp, line 40 to this: return t * t * t * (6. * t * t - 15. * t + 10.); |
| 06:47 |
hmmmm |
s/modity/modify/ |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
why not t^3 and t^2 ? |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
(or whatever the C++ equivalents are) |
| 06:47 |
hmmmm |
^ is the bitwise xor operator in C |
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VanessaE |
I meant cubed and squared |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
(stupid netsplits...) |
| 06:49 |
hmmmm |
t*t*t is fine for cubed and t*t is fine for squared |
| 06:49 |
hmmmm |
It's way better than the alternative (calling pow()) |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
hrm, ok |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
the compiler would probably optimize it to something simpler anyway |
| 06:54 |
hmmmm |
Since this is (for me, someone using an Athlon 64 3500+) an operation that takes roughly 450 milliseconds to generate a 500x500 node area, the map preview feature is looking really good |
| 06:55 |
hmmmm |
Looking really good, as in, near instantaneous. |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 07:03 |
wei2912 |
VanessaE, what's with netsplits? |
| 07:03 |
wei2912 |
lol |
| 07:04 |
VanessaE |
they suck, that's what :-) |
| 07:04 |
wei2912 |
it's like |
| 07:04 |
wei2912 |
boom |
| 07:04 |
wei2912 |
VanessaE, lol wikipedia has this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netsplit.png |
| 07:05 |
VanessaE |
a screenshot of a netsplit? er... |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
ok, time for me to find my way to bed. |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
night all |
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cy1 |
hmmmm: what you're kidding, it really uses pow? |
| 07:22 |
hmmmm |
cy1, yeah |
| 07:22 |
hmmmm |
but that's okay, worrying about things like this is wasting time |
| 07:22 |
cy1 |
holee sheet |
| 07:22 |
hmmmm |
and it's completely unimportant |
| 07:22 |
cy1 |
No, perlin takes a ton of CPU I think...? |
| 07:23 |
hmmmm |
just like it's completely unimportant to worry about the server step being 50ms |
| 07:23 |
hmmmm |
and it somehow takes up a constant 45% kernel cpu time |
| 07:24 |
cy1 |
hmmmm: there a reason for the floating point coercion? |
| 07:25 |
hmmmm |
? |
| 07:25 |
cy1 |
6. instead of 6 |
| 07:25 |
hmmmm |
oh |
| 07:25 |
hmmmm |
not really |
| 07:25 |
hmmmm |
'better safe than sorry' sort of thing |
| 07:25 |
cy1 |
gcc'll catch it. |
| 07:26 |
hmmmm |
that optimized code could actually be a little better if you factor a t from the 6 and 15 terms, so that's one less multiplication |
| 07:26 |
cy1 |
oh, yeah. |
| 07:29 |
cy1 |
dang, it's generating like 5x faster for me |
| 07:29 |
cy1 |
I have tons of ores on my world, so lots of perlin for every node <_< |
| 07:30 |
hmmmm |
if ore generation is slow for you right now, you'll feel a noticable speedup |
| 07:30 |
cy1 |
Well I'm convinced. Active on my main world now. |
| 07:30 |
cy1 |
verge.info.tm 6989 |
| 07:31 |
cy1 |
flowers mod also uses a lot of perlin... |
| 07:31 |
cy1 |
oh wait, no just random. |
| 07:31 |
cy1 |
my mod of the flowers mod uses a lot of perlin |
| 07:32 |
hmmmm |
basically everything that's supposed to be random is better looking with perlin :p |
| 07:32 |
cy1 |
perlin is the interpolated patterns though, like hills instead of just random heights |
| 07:33 |
hmmmm |
yeah |
| 07:33 |
hmmmm |
the myrand() sucks as well |
| 07:33 |
hmmmm |
it's a basic implementation of an LCG, but in every instance he calls it, he uses the lower bits which don't have very much enthropy |
| 07:34 |
hmmmm |
so even the pure random could be more random |
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cy1 |
ehe, yeah |
| 07:34 |
cy1 |
less random can be good when you're doing pseudorandom world generation though. Lets perceptive players pick out patterns. |
| 07:34 |
hmmmm |
perhaps |
| 07:36 |
cy1 |
I need a good glowing flower... |
| 07:37 |
cy1 |
Guess I'll use mesecon power plants for now. |
| 07:37 |
cy1 |
eh |
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Jordach |
what the hell |
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Jordach |
nickserv wont log me in |
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iqualfragile |
thats your punishment for extensive use of capslock |
| 08:34 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile - dunno whats happenning |
| 08:34 |
Jordach |
can it be that im loggen in from 9hrs ago? |
| 08:34 |
Jordach |
uhoh |
| 08:34 |
Jordach |
[09:34:40] * [nickserv] No such nick/channel |
| 08:34 |
Jordach |
[09:34:40] * [nickserv] End of /WHOIS list. |
| 08:36 |
Jordach |
nor does chanserv exist |
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Jordach |
okay |
| 08:44 |
Jordach |
[09:35:41] -sendak.freenode.net- [Global Notice] - We've had some hardware problems this morning on the server that hosts services for us. We're currently working on moving services to another host. In the meantime, nickserv, chanserv etc. are not available. Thanks for your patience and thanks for flying freenode. |
| 08:46 |
Jordach |
oh my god |
| 08:47 |
Jordach |
it it it it it it..works |
| 08:48 |
Jordach |
hi calinou |
| 08:48 |
Jordach |
oh wait...message read wrong |
| 08:52 |
cy1 |
So who wants a world where during the night a wild plant gives the terrain a soft gentle glow? |
| 08:52 |
Jordach |
yes! |
| 08:52 |
cy1 |
I just modded power plants to work with my mod of flowers. :| |
| 08:54 |
cy1 |
It's so freakin beautiful (again) |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 08:56 |
cy1 |
Hello PilzAdam! |
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cy1 |
Jordach: https://github.com/cyisfor/flowers and uh... |
| 09:00 |
Jordach |
sweet |
| 09:00 |
cy1 |
Jordach: http://pastebin.ca/2204639 |
| 09:00 |
cy1 |
I just made a ppflower mod so that overwriting flowers or mesecons_powerplant won't mess it up. depends.txt = mesecons_powerplant and flowers |
| 09:01 |
cy1 |
verge.info.tm 6989 if you want to see it in action |
| 09:02 |
Jordach |
sweer |
| 09:02 |
Jordach |
sweet* |
| 09:06 |
Jordach |
choose your destiny http://imgur.com/eQ0yn,NpMAe |
| 09:06 |
Jordach |
cisouns vs. mine |
| 09:07 |
cy1 |
guess not... |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, i like the first; is it yours? |
| 09:07 |
Jordach |
thats a default |
| 09:07 |
PilzAdam |
i like the default textures at all |
| 09:08 |
cy1 |
yeah the first one is nicer... |
| 09:08 |
PilzAdam |
you see more "details" in the first one |
| 09:08 |
cy1 |
second one doesn't have rumples, and is more pastel |
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cy1 |
Sorry Jordach. They're both fine! |
| 09:11 |
Jordach |
cisouns almost matches MC wool |
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Jordach |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=19974#p19974 |
| 09:11 |
Jordach |
mc vs cisoun |
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cy1 |
Jordach: all the more reason to use it flagrantly >:D |
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Jordach |
damn shortcut key |
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Jordach |
cy1 - the cisoun WOW factor has gone for me |
| 09:15 |
Jordach |
and theyre much smoother - like a real dye |
| 09:16 |
Jordach |
woolcraft will become 0.2 in 3 hours |
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Jordach |
i am adding default dye suppoort (already does so, but my point is dyes:white and the like can be made) |
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cy1 |
Jordach: The dye isn't supposed to make wool smoother... just make yours be cotton and leave wool as-is? |
| 09:18 |
Jordach |
no, i want a smoother texture |
| 09:19 |
cy1 |
Well, it's your world. Whatever you like! |
| 09:20 |
Jordach |
the dye crafting for woolcraft always drops one dye because one dye + white (both mt game default) make 16 |
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Jordach |
so 16 * 16 blocks is way too much |
| 09:20 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 09:20 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 09:20 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 09:20 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 09:20 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 09:20 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 09:20 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 09:20 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 09:20 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 09:20 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 09:21 |
Jordach |
i can make a fast flatland mod |
| 09:21 |
Jordach |
unlike kddekadenz's slow PoS |
| 09:21 |
PilzAdam |
how? |
| 09:23 |
cy1 |
just mod the source... I stuck in an #ifdef FLAT in mapgen.cpp and rigged it up once. |
| 09:23 |
Jordach |
via lua mod |
| 09:24 |
PilzAdam |
how? |
| 09:24 |
Jordach |
youll see |
| 09:24 |
PilzAdam |
i tried it: i dissabled the mapgen and used on_generated -> epic fail |
| 09:27 |
cy1 |
mapgen.cpp generates stone with a perlin height above a certain level. just make the height always be 0. Plus my no trenches patch. |
| 09:27 |
cy1 |
which got ...sorta incorporated into mainline |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
im on windows |
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* PilzAdam |
slaps Jordach |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
and why not use minetest.place_node |
| 09:27 |
cy1 |
is your server on windows? o.o |
| 09:27 |
cy1 |
or, oh just a local one |
| 09:28 |
cy1 |
yeah you're screwed |
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Jordach |
cy1 my mt server ran faster on win xp than ubuntu did |
| 09:28 |
cy1 |
w/ev you still can't get a decent compilation environment |
| 09:29 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, there is no function called minetest.place_node |
| 09:29 |
Jordach |
- place_node(pos, node) |
| 09:29 |
Jordach |
^ Place node with the same effects that a player would cause |
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cy1 |
It's called add_node I think. Anyway you could use that. First the map generates, then you ignore all that and delete it and replace it with your own. |
| 09:30 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, its minetest.env: |
| 09:30 |
cy1 |
Or just modify mapgen.cpp and compile |
| 09:31 |
PilzAdam |
this does not work: https://gist.github.com/3610270 |
| 09:32 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: that'd miss erasing land above 16... it doesn't work at all? |
| 09:34 |
PilzAdam |
it worked for ~10 blocks but then game hang up |
| 09:34 |
cy1 |
hm |
| 09:42 |
Jordach |
https://gist.github.com/3731783 |
| 09:42 |
Jordach |
what i got |
| 09:46 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - any idea on what to do with my gist? |
| 09:47 |
PilzAdam |
there will be trees in the ground |
| 09:47 |
PilzAdam |
if n.name == "air" or "leaves" or "tree" or "water" then |
| 09:48 |
PilzAdam |
if n.name ~= "stone" and n.name ~= "dirt" then |
| 09:48 |
PilzAdam |
make a list of wanted nodes in the if |
| 09:49 |
PilzAdam |
and make a register_on_respawnplayer() and set the pos.y to 40 |
| 09:50 |
Jordach |
however |
| 09:50 |
Jordach |
this method is like making a huge worldedit cube |
| 09:50 |
Jordach |
which is slow |
| 09:51 |
PilzAdam |
your method is faster than mine |
| 09:52 |
Jordach |
omfg |
| 09:52 |
Jordach |
you should see my console place nodes |
| 09:53 |
Jordach |
400 nodes per second |
| 09:55 |
PilzAdam |
btw: can you or someone else create a better "plop" sound for my item_drop mod? |
| 09:58 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - i think that is generating upto +-31000 |
| 09:59 |
Jordach |
http://youtu.be/w0ezy84_Ikk give this 10 mins |
| 10:00 |
Jordach |
this a part of what is happening |
| 10:00 |
Jordach |
no no no no no no no |
| 10:01 |
Jordach |
its even going in the caves |
| 10:01 |
PilzAdam |
GEMA blocked... Youtube unblocker tries to unblock it |
| 10:01 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam i said wait 10 mins |
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* PilzAdam |
cant wait |
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Jordach |
the console is still writing nodes |
| 10:02 |
Jordach |
ive even closed the window mfyi |
| 10:03 |
Jordach |
we need a three node thick thing |
| 10:03 |
Jordach |
like mc's flatland |
| 10:06 |
PilzAdam |
gravel biome found!!! |
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Jordach |
kewl |
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Phitherek_ |
uhhh |
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Phitherek_ |
nickserv and chanserv were down for a while, I got scared :D |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/3731863 |
| 10:14 |
thexyz |
oh, minetest wikipedia article was finally deleted |
| 10:14 |
Phitherek_ |
why? :o |
| 10:15 |
Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ezy84_Ikk&feature=youtu.be done |
| 10:15 |
thexyz |
05:32, 16 September 2012 Mr. Stradivarius (talk | contribs) deleted page Minetest (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minetest) |
| 10:16 |
FreeFull |
): |
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sfan5 |
D: |
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Jordach |
D: |
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Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ezy84_Ikk&feature=youtu.be |
| 10:27 |
Jordach |
there ya go pilz |
| 10:27 |
PilzAdam |
adam and not pilz |
| 10:27 |
Jordach |
anyone want a L4D reference? |
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jin_xi |
lol, flat minetest: http://imgur.com/tRegq |
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Jordach |
thats gunna take time |
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* Jordach |
sees FL Studio going at 1% every 3 seconds |
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Jordach |
damn you high quality instruments |
| 11:01 |
PilzAdam |
can someone create a 2D sheep that looks to the left? |
| 11:02 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: here you are http://cdn2.irishviews.com/irishviews-cdn/sheep7.jpg |
| 11:02 |
PilzAdam |
in 32x16? |
| 11:03 |
PilzAdam |
the one from animals mod is too "HD" |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam - thexyz is a IRC troll. |
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Jordach |
cornernote does it need JUST 0.4.3 win 32 |
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Jordach |
(bags) |
| 11:20 |
cornernote |
yep |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
sweeet |
| 11:21 |
cornernote |
it just re-writes the player formspec |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
nice |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
cornernote - go make player armour, like MC |
| 11:21 |
cornernote |
YES! |
| 11:21 |
cornernote |
thats next |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
you have the player in the right place |
| 11:21 |
cornernote |
bags was just a play to see how it works |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
why not do that |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
cornernote - ill give you some artwork |
| 11:22 |
cornernote |
for armor ? |
| 11:22 |
cornernote |
is it original, made by you ? |
| 11:22 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 11:22 |
cornernote |
theres lots of good MC armor out there, id rather use something original tho... so yeah that would be cool |
| 11:22 |
Jordach |
no idea for the lowest, eg leather |
| 11:23 |
Jordach |
maybe wood? |
| 11:23 |
cornernote |
but, i think i need to learn about the damage system in MT |
| 11:23 |
Jordach |
go check out mobF |
| 11:23 |
cornernote |
ewww |
| 11:23 |
cornernote |
i cant read it, too complex |
| 11:23 |
cornernote |
pilzadams code is nicer to read |
| 11:24 |
cornernote |
im sure mobF is awesome, but there is a lot to understand |
| 11:24 |
Jordach |
just suggesting |
| 11:25 |
cornernote |
what armour ? 3 slots ? |
| 11:25 |
cornernote |
head, chest, pants |
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Jordach |
4 - shield, head, chest and leggings |
| 11:25 |
Jordach |
a awesome shield, much better |
| 11:25 |
cornernote |
problem is the player image is 1x2 |
| 11:25 |
Jordach |
and? |
| 11:26 |
cornernote |
so to overlay the images |
| 11:26 |
cornernote |
or u just put them in the slot |
| 11:26 |
cornernote |
no overlay |
| 11:26 |
Jordach |
thats my thought yes |
| 11:26 |
Jordach |
but i can also draw an overlay if needed |
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jin_xi |
belts would be cool |
| 11:38 |
Jordach |
mese armour drawn |
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thexyz |
Jordach: no |
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Jordach |
thexyz : no. |
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Jordach |
cornernote - armour textures complete |
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PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=42904#p42904 |
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iqualfragile |
great, now it stats getting usefull |
| 12:28 |
PilzAdam |
can someone make 32x16 sheep textures? |
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PilzAdam |
cornernote, yore here? |
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Jordach |
hello rubenwardy |
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thel |
Hi.. |
| 12:43 |
thel |
Can anyone help me compilling minetest on win ? |
| 12:43 |
PilzAdam |
there are some win builds in the forum |
| 12:44 |
Jordach |
nobody compiles on windows |
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Jordach |
hello Calinou |
| 12:47 |
Jordach |
also - how's southern france? (sfr.net apparently) |
| 12:48 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 12:48 |
Calinou |
Jordach: sfr != southern france 8) |
| 12:48 |
Calinou |
it's a random ISP |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
or cheapest |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
(if you like) |
| 12:49 |
Calinou |
cornernote: moved two of your mod topics to mod releases :) |
| 12:49 |
Calinou |
Jordach: not the cheapest one, they're almost all the same price anyway |
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thel |
but if i compille i be able to run it only on linux yeap? |
| 12:52 |
thel |
:s |
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thexyz |
thel: readme is your friend |
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* Calinou |
welcomes the new linux user |
| 12:55 |
Calinou |
two in two days - EXCELLENT |
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rubenwardy |
hi Jordach |
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PilzAdam |
hi rubenwardy |
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* Jordach |
wonders how many users will be on at once if i start a public server |
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PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, can you create a side view of a cheep that looks left in 32x20? |
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cosarara97 |
how can I make minetest call a lua function every 10 min.? |
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PilzAdam |
minetest.after(60*10 |
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rubenwardy |
a cheep? |
| 13:04 |
rubenwardy |
sheep? |
| 13:04 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
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cosarara97 |
I tried it, but that just calls the function n time after loading the mod |
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rubenwardy |
i am not really an artist. nick from animals mod? |
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cosarara97 |
or maybe I'm just doing it wrong |
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rubenwardy |
does your mod use the mob framework? |
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PilzAdam |
nope |
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PilzAdam |
mob framework is slow |
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PilzAdam |
my mod is fast |
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Jordach |
^ correct |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam = no BS code writer |
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PilzAdam |
ive limited the spawn of animals and monster: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/b1f6e142457469678a405913c13018543bff3307 can someone test it (are there too many or too much monsters/animals)? |
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Jordach |
armour anyone? http://cornernote.net/minetest/screenshots/2012-09-16_2245.png |
| 13:17 |
cornernote |
hey PilzAdam |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, how do you reduce the damage when wearing armour? |
| 13:18 |
cornernote |
i have got a working armor formspec, but i dont know much about the damage system |
| 13:18 |
PilzAdam |
cornernote, your particles are great! |
| 13:18 |
Jordach |
thats why we are asking you |
| 13:18 |
PilzAdam |
but they fly arround too much |
| 13:18 |
cornernote |
yeah, they are a little too crazy |
| 13:19 |
PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=42910#p42910 |
| 13:19 |
cornernote |
do you know what i change about the player to make them have more armor ? |
| 13:19 |
cornernote |
tougher HP |
| 13:19 |
cornernote |
something about fleshy= |
| 13:19 |
cornernote |
or level= |
| 13:19 |
PilzAdam |
there is armor setting, but only for entities |
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PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/init.lua#L188 |
| 13:20 |
cornernote |
thanks, i'll do those things.. god ideas |
| 13:20 |
cornernote |
good even |
| 13:20 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1099 |
| 13:20 |
PilzAdam |
ohh, its for all objects |
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PilzAdam |
try it for players, maybe it works |
| 13:21 |
cornernote |
what do i put for group1 and for rating |
| 13:21 |
PilzAdam |
and can you please use only the fleshy group for armor? |
| 13:21 |
cornernote |
and how do i see if its working ? |
| 13:21 |
PilzAdam |
make a local game and connect to loachost with 2 clients |
| 13:21 |
cornernote |
how about this... |
| 13:22 |
cornernote |
i really want this to work with your mobs mod |
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PilzAdam |
my mobs use this: self.object:set_armor_groups({fleshy=3}) |
| 13:22 |
cornernote |
formspec is all done, just gotta add some lines to increase/decrease armor |
| 13:22 |
PilzAdam |
higher armor would be: self.object:set_armor_groups({fleshy=2}) |
| 13:22 |
cornernote |
ok, i see |
| 13:22 |
PilzAdam |
use player: instead of self.object: |
| 13:22 |
cornernote |
so on equip, i just increase the X in self.object:set_armor_groups({fleshy=X}) |
| 13:23 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 13:23 |
cornernote |
whats the highest ? |
| 13:23 |
PilzAdam |
3 = lowest 1 = highest |
| 13:23 |
cornernote |
int or float ? |
| 13:23 |
PilzAdam |
int |
| 13:23 |
cornernote |
damn |
| 13:23 |
cornernote |
there are 4 items of armor |
| 13:23 |
cornernote |
and 3 types |
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PilzAdam |
use stone, steel, mese |
| 13:24 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - wooden armour |
| 13:24 |
cornernote |
yes, got the textures all done from Jordach |
| 13:24 |
PilzAdam |
wooden armor is stupid |
| 13:24 |
cornernote |
but lets say... |
| 13:24 |
cornernote |
dont worry about those details atm |
| 13:24 |
PilzAdam |
maybe replace stone with leather |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
items can easily change |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
say i have a helmet |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
its wood |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam - or would you have leather, which could use mobf or pilz's mobs |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
it gives +1 |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
then i have the boots, chest, +1 +1 |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
im at max |
| 13:25 |
cornernote |
:( |
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PilzAdam |
cornernote, we can create more values for armor |
| 13:25 |
Jordach |
like cracky |
| 13:26 |
cornernote |
i'll commit what i have tomorrow, got to go to bed |
| 13:26 |
PilzAdam |
we just need to rewrite the default swords and my mob mod |
| 13:26 |
cornernote |
then we can perhaps have a fiddle with some code and ideas |
| 13:26 |
Jordach |
minetest_game commit anyone? |
| 13:26 |
PilzAdam |
what? |
| 13:27 |
Jordach |
when done |
| 13:27 |
cornernote |
that would be nice, but we have a bit before this is stable to merge to minetest_game |
| 13:27 |
Jordach |
i know |
| 13:27 |
Jordach |
thats what i mean |
| 13:28 |
PilzAdam |
cornernote, why make 4 types of armor? just make 1 |
| 13:28 |
Jordach |
(and make some multi code so bags and this will work together) |
| 13:28 |
PilzAdam |
1 armor slot is enough |
| 13:28 |
cornernote |
yeah, been thinking about that |
| 13:28 |
PilzAdam |
then we dont have to change much |
| 13:28 |
cornernote |
easy to code it, but hard to make it into a nice api that others can use |
| 13:29 |
PilzAdam |
in my mobs mos i have 3= full damage; 2=damage-1; 1=damage-2 |
| 13:30 |
PilzAdam |
dirt monster have 2 damage -> armor 1 would prevent damage at all |
| 13:30 |
PilzAdam |
stone monsters have damage 3 |
| 13:30 |
PilzAdam |
sand monsters have damage 1 |
| 13:31 |
PilzAdam |
armor > 3 will cause that sand monsters cant damage the player at all |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
yep. |
| 13:32 |
PilzAdam |
hit ratio is 1/sec. |
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PilzAdam |
the best solution would be if i dont need to change anything, because it works well with the default game |
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PilzAdam |
amor should be expensive: maybe steel = 2 and mese = 1 |
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PilzAdam |
craft all parts of the armor (like MC) then put them together and you get 1 armor item |
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PilzAdam |
what do you think about this system? |
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NekoGloop |
Meow. |
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PilzAdam |
sup Neko |
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NekoGloop |
The ceiling |
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rubenwardy |
the sky... |
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cornernote |
why doesnt this work as expected: for material,name in ipairs({wood="Wooden",iron="Iron",mese="Mese"}) do |
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cornernote |
doesnt even seem to enter the loop |
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PilzAdam |
make for name,value in pairs({}) do |
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PilzAdam |
(without the i in ipairs) |
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cornernote |
sweet |
| 13:46 |
PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=42931#p42931 |
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cornernote |
i think for now... |
| 13:48 |
cornernote |
you have to have the whole set to get a point |
| 13:48 |
cornernote |
if you have 1 steel and the rest mese, you get the points of a steel armor |
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PilzAdam |
i was thinking about crafting the parts then craft them together to one big armor and then wear it |
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PilzAdam |
cornernote, you fell asleep already? |
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Jordach |
nooooooooooooooooo....... |
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PilzAdam |
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam we have no oldcoder..... >.< |
| 14:51 |
PilzAdam |
okay there are too many sheeps in my mod |
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Jordach |
toomanysheep(tm) |
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Jordach |
is VanessaE around? |
| 14:54 |
Octupus |
Hola |
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LAD |
idk |
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Octupus |
Jordach< did u think about the question i asked you a couple days ago |
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rubenwardy |
VanessaE, what do you think about this? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3075 |
| 15:05 |
thexyz |
that's awesome |
| 15:05 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 15:06 |
thexyz |
except, maybe, game main menu design |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
i know |
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rubenwardy |
the new game menu design does not look minetest-y enough |
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rubenwardy |
brown would be better than green, i think... |
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iqualfragile |
looks great |
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iqualfragile |
but you are right, the green is too flat |
| 15:13 |
iqualfragile |
there should at least be some kind of an pattern in it |
| 15:13 |
iqualfragile |
or an gradient |
| 15:14 |
iqualfragile |
and the downloads are in the wong order ( http://upload.maciejkwas.pl/plik5/home.jpg ) |
| 15:15 |
iqualfragile |
it should be LINUX (big green button), OSX,windows |
| 15:15 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 15:16 |
thexyz |
it should depend on your UA |
| 15:16 |
Kray |
yeah |
| 15:16 |
Kray |
if not, the big green button should be Windows |
| 15:17 |
rubenwardy |
that would be cool |
| 15:17 |
rubenwardy |
automatically sets the big button to the OS |
| 15:17 |
rubenwardy |
just some easy javascript to do it... |
| 15:18 |
Kray |
nope, server side |
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iqualfragile |
it does not matter, does it? |
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rubenwardy |
not sure if you can do it server side, i will check |
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Kray |
...you can |
| 15:19 |
rubenwardy |
yes you can |
| 15:19 |
Octupus |
KRAY |
| 15:19 |
Octupus |
hello |
| 15:19 |
Kray |
hello |
| 15:19 |
iqualfragile |
you can, the client sends a referr |
| 15:20 |
Octupus |
Kray what happened to your server |
| 15:20 |
Octupus |
even though i i=didnt play on it i wish i did |
| 15:20 |
Kray |
it went down when I started having HDD issues |
| 15:20 |
Kray |
and didn't bother having anything up again |
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Octupus |
ohh :( |
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| 15:24 |
hmmmm |
christ.. |
| 15:24 |
hmmmm |
that site looks nice, but it also looks like it's trying to sell you something |
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khonkhortisan |
that's an old picture on that laptop |
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PilzAdam |
hmmmm, when you think it sells you somehting and then realise that its for free... you will like it!!! |
| 15:37 |
iqualfragile |
no, americans will think it damages the economy |
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Octupus |
redcrab, SMOKI IS GRIEFING SPAWN |
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rubenwardy |
redcrab's server is glitching |
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* khonkhortisan |
got off the server like the idiots were told |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
khonkhortisan - you said you wanted a server |
| 15:56 |
khonkhortisan |
Uh, I want to fix my router so I would be able to host a server |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
aye |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
thanks sfan5 |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
to all of you in here |
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Jordach |
if my whois does not btcentralplus.com then it probably aint me |
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thexyz |
why don't you register your nickname? |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
i have |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
its just in case someone gets the pass |
| 16:06 |
T_A_N_K |
wtf. i just got air from a tree leave |
| 16:08 |
PilzAdam |
hi T_A_N_K |
| 16:08 |
T_A_N_K |
hey pilzadam! |
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T_A_N_K |
pilzadam you have made a marvelous mob ai, simple, somewhat stupid, fun. you should take sapiers wolf and put the ai from the dirt mob off your simple mobs mod into it so it's a lot more deadly! |
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T_A_N_K |
that'd be really awesome |
| 16:17 |
MachinaeWolf |
Is there like a list of recommended mods, if and when I get mod mode working? |
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PilzAdam |
T_A_N_K, the problem with spaiers mod is, that its slow and very buggy |
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MachinaeWolf |
Also is there a mod with enemies and people? |
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T_A_N_K |
it has drops too?! and yea i know, but like i just said, remove that 2d mob, and replace it with the wolf "body" and BAM you have the first ever 3d mob in minetest that can actually be called challenging |
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PilzAdam |
so you just mean i should make it 3D? |
| 16:21 |
T_A_N_K |
yes! |
| 16:21 |
PilzAdam |
thats easy |
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PilzAdam |
(btw: ive "invented" 3D entities) |
| 16:22 |
T_A_N_K |
really? |
| 16:22 |
PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2672 |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
ive improved the particles mod by cornernote: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest-particles |
| 16:33 |
T_A_N_K |
oh nice |
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Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/ 666 topics in a section, 222 in another |
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Calinou |
:D |
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PilzAdam |
6 in old mods 12 in MT related projects |
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PilzAdam |
and 120 in engine dev |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3070 |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
r00fles |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
opinions? delete? lock? |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
"I am amazed that mojang has not come after you guys for copyright infringement." |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
seriously |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
he's funny |
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Octupus |
mojang said that they cant copy mc in any way |
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Octupus |
*can |
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thexyz |
Calinou: stick it |
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Jordach |
[17:44:13] <Calinou> "I am amazed that mojang has not come after you guys for copyright infringement." has none of you noticed that hesjusta pro-nonfree software guy |
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Jordach |
sup bas080 |
| 16:51 |
Calinou |
thexyz: lol |
| 16:51 |
bas080 |
Yow, Jordach |
| 16:52 |
Jordach |
bas080 - i just uploaded something new today |
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bas080 |
soundcloud i assume |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
duh! |
| 16:54 |
bas080 |
Green hill reminds me of Curby |
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Octupus |
Jordach did u think about the question i asked u a few days ago |
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bas080 |
Love that game! |
| 16:55 |
bas080 |
A boss battle |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
Octupus - what? |
| 16:55 |
Octupus |
if i cud have the pixel art serva |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
dunno, might convert that into a public server |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
similar to redcrabs 0.4.3 |
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Octupus |
oh |
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Octupus |
cool |
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Jordach |
soo yeah |
| 16:59 |
bas080 |
Mute city's got a nice flow to it. Awesome breakdowns. Solo's awesome! :P |
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Jordach |
this is all 8-bit with substracting synths |
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bas080 |
Maybe add a ride to the drums when the music reaches it's climax |
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Jordach |
#minetest with 86 users...oh my |
| 17:05 |
NekoGloop |
Lol xD |
| 17:06 |
Neirdan |
Where can I find the v3s16 description? |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
Neirdan - that variable is a short unsigned bastard |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
#minetest has more people than #xonotic |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
though xonotic has a lot of people (150 players) on their servers sometimes |
| 17:08 |
Neirdan |
Jordach Thanks |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
Neirdan - i suggest you turn that into a long unsigned variable. |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
another new minetest user :D |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
so maps can become indefinite |
| 17:10 |
Neirdan |
Nah, I'm just trying to understand the mesh combining part. |
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Jordach |
sup OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, sup'per |
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OldCoder |
Actually not |
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OldCoder |
:-) |
| 17:13 |
Jordach |
oh you |
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* Jordach |
crosses arms |
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Neirdan |
Are there mapnodes that are air? |
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NekoGloop |
? |
| 17:17 |
Neirdan |
When you actually dig a node and remove it from the map, is it replaced with an "air" node or is it left empty? |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
Neirdan - its essentially a 0 in binary does nothing and can be replaced |
| 17:17 |
NekoGloop |
__builtin:air |
| 17:20 |
Neirdan |
I think I'm starting to understand. |
| 17:21 |
Neirdan |
Hierarchically speaking, is it : map = infinite mapblock / mapblock = 16x16x16 mapnodes ? |
| 17:22 |
NekoGloop |
No, there are 62000/16*62000/16*62000/16 mapblocks. |
| 17:22 |
Neirdan |
Because of the limits, I guess? |
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NekoGloop |
Yes. |
| 17:24 |
NekoGloop |
So a map = however many mapblocks that is |
| 17:24 |
Neirdan |
But basically a map contains mapblocks and mapblocks contains mapnodes, right? |
| 17:24 |
bas080 |
I think the nodes are not owned by mapblocks. |
| 17:25 |
bas080 |
mapblocks are used for generating maps |
| 17:25 |
bas080 |
nodes have a coordinate |
| 17:25 |
bas080 |
I think... |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 17:26 |
Neirdan |
From what I understand, nodes are single 1x1x1 blocks and they're displayed in blocks (16x16x16) with meshes merged because of performance issues. |
| 17:27 |
Neirdan |
Maybe I got it all wrong. |
| 17:28 |
MachinaeWolf |
Which key is the key to use items like chests and furnaces? |
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Jordach |
right click |
| 17:29 |
MachinaeWolf |
oh :D |
| 17:29 |
MachinaeWolf |
wait that's not working |
| 17:30 |
MachinaeWolf |
like wanted to open a chest or smelt things with a furnace |
| 17:30 |
MachinaeWolf |
or am I supposed to put that in my items list and not inventory list? |
| 17:31 |
MachinaeWolf |
yeah that was it |
| 17:31 |
MachinaeWolf |
silly me |
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PilzAdam |
back |
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MachinaeWolf |
alright I think I got a bug, doors aren't being built when I'm following directions from the wiki |
| 17:41 |
T_A_N_K |
thexyz: could you make your really cool signs mod so that only the person who placed the sign down can edit it? |
| 17:42 |
MachinaeWolf |
alright lots of things aren't building O_O |
| 17:42 |
MachinaeWolf |
that's not good |
| 17:42 |
NekoGloop |
Lag |
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T_A_N_K |
thexyz: because this could be very helpful for something that i am doing |
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Octupus |
hola celeron |
| 17:44 |
T_A_N_K |
good day celeron |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
hello c55. |
| 17:48 |
LAD |
good after noon |
| 17:48 |
* LAD |
corects spelling (afternoon) |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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LAD |
hi more ppl |
| 17:56 |
ray8888 |
ello |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, try my version of cornernotes particle mod: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest-particles |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
what's the difference? |
| 18:01 |
PilzAdam |
there are particles for every node |
| 18:01 |
PilzAdam |
you dont need to add something to other mods |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
maybe later. |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
theres also a group "no_particles" guess what this do |
| 18:03 |
VanessaE |
yeah I saw that in (and posted on) the thread tracking this mod |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
the textures for the particles are the dig result or the texture of the node itself |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
so every node in the game has particles |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
(i guess thats very MC like) |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
I think mc uses solid colors |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
"+1 regarding smoke, and please PLEASE make it look something like smoke instead of just pixels, and make it more abundant than in the old mod (sorry sfan :-) )." |
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VanessaE |
(also for G*d sakes please center the particles over the torch instead of spawning them half-way off to the side :-) ) |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
wb c55 |
| 18:06 |
PilzAdam |
in the vids of MC ive seen it seems like the particles have parts of the texture of the node |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
been a while since I last looked, I probably just didn't se ethat then |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
of course with youtube, how can you see anything through the compression noise lately :-/ |
| 18:06 |
* PilzAdam |
goes to youtube |
| 18:07 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: From me playing, yes it does. |
| 18:07 |
PilzAdam |
you play MC!?!?!?!?!? |
| 18:07 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - seen my new avatar? |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'm probably thinking of an older version depicted in a video, |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: no; last one I saw was some guy wearing sunglasses. |
| 18:08 |
Jordach |
thats me |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 18:08 |
Jordach |
all my sites are in sync with avatar date 16/9/12 |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
better than the one madchicken currently uses :-) |
| 18:08 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, it looks strange... |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - see my soundcloud |
| 18:09 |
NekoGloop |
I have demo version, pilzadam |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
or at least g+ |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: all you need is a grey Stetson and you'd look like a cop :-) |
| 18:09 |
PilzAdam |
my avatar will be good if the player pic will change in default game |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-syegrJN3YMA/UFYAEPqrMTI/AAAAAAAAAQc/Wi3-3DpcwaY/s799/Pic_0916_012.jpg |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
there |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
I wish c55 would give us something where the client can tell the server "hey, I want to look like *this* to other people". |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
+1 |
| 18:10 |
PilzAdam |
+10 |
| 18:10 |
NekoGloop |
+100 |
| 18:10 |
NekoGloop |
*going with the flow* |
| 18:10 |
PilzAdam |
+1000 for armor |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
+8(turned by 90') |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
I don't have any desire to look like that green "thing", nor the little short brown guy in redcrab:30401. |
| 18:11 |
* Jordach |
makes picture of self |
| 18:11 |
iqualfragile |
i look like the litle anoying kid from minetoon |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
minetoon +1 |
| 18:11 |
NekoGloop |
I want 3rd person view |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
its the only TP it would use instead of default textures |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - it would use? |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
did you mean i would use |
| 18:12 |
PilzAdam |
-t |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: don't like HDX eh? :( |
| 18:12 |
PilzAdam |
who wants my animals to be 3D? |
| 18:13 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, no no no no n on n o no n no no n no |
| 18:13 |
PilzAdam |
i hate HD textures |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
*shrug* |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - 64px and thats enough |
| 18:13 |
PilzAdam |
16px is enough |
| 18:13 |
* Jordach |
considers returning 8x8px |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
as for 3d animals, no. Not until we can rotate and animate the pieces of the mobs |
| 18:13 |
NekoGloop |
16px is just enough |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
e.g. legs arms etc. |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
i like the 2d ones |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
I read "i like legs" |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
rofl |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
[19:13:59] <VanessaE> e.g. legs arms etc. - thats a shitty MC thing |
| 18:14 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, i also think MT mobs and player should stay 2D |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I didn't say it had to animate the way MC does it. |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
+99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 to PilzAdam |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
just that stuff should be able to move. |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
copying MC's player proportions is JUST FINE. |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
see the 3D player patch? it looked horrible |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
due to the guy absolutely wanting different proportions |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
it's like if you made a chair 2 meters tall |
| 18:15 |
NekoGloop |
Seen the default game? It looks awesome. |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
original, but sucks. |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
+1 to Jordach |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
;-) |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
krisi could not model for $'!7 |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
if we have 3D models: ideally these should be external (.md3 files), let people make and share their own |
| 18:15 |
FreeFull |
md3? |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
this would be much more open than minecraft's "locked" skin system |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
+Your mother |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
irrlicht can load openarena (quake) models |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
why aren't we using those? |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
of course, give the client ability to force |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: YEAH SO MUCH, I WANT PENGUIN IN MINETEST |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
OWNAGE! |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
+c55 |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 18:16 |
iqualfragile |
md5 |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
md5 isn't supported by irrlicht |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
mdf - a type of DIY wood |
| 18:16 |
* PilzAdam |
has no experience in 3D modeling |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
too bad irrlicht doesn't support iqm |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
iqm is plain awesome |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
.blend |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
Jordach: lol |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
.3ds |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: um, have you ever looked at OA's models? |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
*spits drink* OPENARENA |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: I know, yes. OA does support IQM, but only one official model uses IQM (neko, iirc) |
| 18:17 |
VanessaE |
that's the one I use :-) |
| 18:17 |
NekoGloop |
hl why? |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
OPENARENA. now go play red eclipse |
| 18:18 |
* Calinou |
slaps Jordach using xonotic |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
erebus approves! |
| 18:19 |
FreeFull |
I usually play Warsow, haven't checked out xonotic yet |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
also, if we want to load these models properly, we need transparency sorting. md3 models are multi-part (head/torso/legs) |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
warsow, xonotic, RE, OA, sauer all support iqm btw |
| 18:19 |
* Calinou |
slaps the irrlicht devs for not doing so |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
Calinou - lets play xonotic 1v1 |
| 18:20 |
FreeFull |
Warsow and Xonotic both have a direct lineage from Quake II |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
Jordach: server? :P |
| 18:20 |
rubenwardy |
my brother dancing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwPV9oBIsG8 wierd |
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Calinou |
warsow = based on quake 2 |
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| 18:20 |
Calinou |
xonotic = based on quake 1 |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
(yes) |
| 18:20 |
FreeFull |
Ah, xonotic is quake I |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
well my POINT is that irrlicht can load these model formats now and we already have at least a few nice models in the supported formats. |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
yet, it looks awesome |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
to not use them in favor of some other 3d system is stupid. |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy - is that ermac from mortal kombat? |
| 18:20 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: There were a lot of changes |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
yes, I said it's stupid. |
| 18:20 |
FreeFull |
In both Warsow and Xonotic |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
FreeFull: I know, darkplaces engine doesn't have much to do with quake render-wise |
| 18:21 |
FreeFull |
Warsow changed the whole movement |
| 18:21 |
Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=3KYR6GSUeGK33Yz-qRwqzh-vVw4gnuAdTF14-L8YDXo |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
nice URL you have there |
| 18:22 |
* Jordach |
starts MC server |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
Jordach: you wanted to play xon 1v1? |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
how bout both |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
come on Exile 1on1 server |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
32mins left |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
it is "Universe" song by Shelter i believe |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
fff, can't join that server |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
nvm |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
works |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
i have no idea where the ninja customme is from though, jordach |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
mortal kombat ermac appeared at the side |
| 18:25 |
PilzAdam |
can someone make 32x20 textures for my sheep in my mobs mod??? |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DodKrayD2xM |
| 18:25 |
FreeFull |
Shouldn't be hard |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
PILLZ HERE |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
Jordach: come? |
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| 18:27 |
Jordach |
waiting for things to finish |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
burning cds |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
search "." in server list if you don't find server, it is named Exile 1on1 |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
great - isp doing the slow time |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
y u make xonotic in a zip file |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
err, have to go now :( sorry |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
damn |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
zip files ftw |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
:/ |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
maybe next weeked |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
weekend |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
ok |
| 18:34 |
T_A_N_K |
how would i get something to happen every 100 ticks |
| 18:34 |
T_A_N_K |
i mean dtimes |
| 18:35 |
T_A_N_K |
or whatever 100/24000 dtime over and over again |
| 18:36 |
PilzAdam |
in on_step() you get the param dtime; create a variable time that is incremented by dtime (time = time+dtime) and check its value |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
you also can do this in register_globalstep() |
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T_A_N_K |
oh okay |
| 18:39 |
T_A_N_K |
can i set the dtime i want to check? say i had a player do a command, how would i check the difference in time that they did that command? |
| 18:40 |
PilzAdam |
heres some example code: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/init.lua#L267 |
| 18:40 |
PilzAdam |
the code below the if is executed every second |
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| 18:45 |
Mikeonline |
hi |
| 18:45 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 18:46 |
Mikeonline |
hi FunghiAdam :) |
| 18:46 |
T_A_N_K |
bbl |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
Funghi? |
| 18:46 |
Mikeonline |
Salami |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
??? |
| 18:47 |
Mikeonline |
Kennste nicht? |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
doch aber warum? |
| 18:47 |
Mikeonline |
Fungi = Pilz |
| 18:47 |
Mikeonline |
+h |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
irgendwie ist das nicht lustig wenn man das nicht kennt |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funghi |
| 18:49 |
Mikeonline |
aber du kennst das doch? |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
ich kenne das jetzt aber kannte es nicht |
| 18:50 |
Mikeonline |
du kennst doch ne Pizza Funghi Salami??? |
| 18:51 |
Mikeonline |
kennt jeder in de ;) |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
ich esse immer schinken mit mais |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
auf pizza |
| 18:52 |
iqualfragile |
das wird och auf dauer langweilig |
| 18:52 |
Mikeonline |
trotzdem kennt die jeder ;) |
| 18:52 |
iqualfragile |
etwas abwechslung muss sein |
| 18:53 |
PilzAdam |
-1 für abwechslung |
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Mikeonline |
kennt ihr das node ownership mod? |
| 18:58 |
PilzAdam |
habs schonmal gehört |
| 19:01 |
Mikeonline |
klingt toll, aber wenns den source der engine verändert nicht der wahre jakob |
| 19:02 |
Mikeonline |
aber gibt wohl aktuell nix besseres |
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rubenwardy |
Jordach, it the "4" rating you gave out of 10 or 5? |
| 19:02 |
PilzAdam |
Mikeonline, man spielt das spiel eh nur weil man seine Mods testen möchte... |
| 19:02 |
Mikeonline |
lol? |
| 19:03 |
Mikeonline |
wie kommste denn darauf |
| 19:03 |
Mikeonline |
außerdem ist das ja kein mod sondern ein mod + source änderung |
| 19:03 |
Mikeonline |
wäre es nur ein mod wäre es ja ok |
| 19:03 |
T_A_N_K |
re |
| 19:03 |
PilzAdam |
ich spiel MT nur wenn ich mods testen muss |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
Deutschcraft I see |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 19:05 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 19:07 |
iqualfragile |
PilzAdam: ist aber schon irgendwie so… das ist das problem, das spiel ist nacht balanced |
| 19:08 |
PilzAdam |
meinst du nicht? |
| 19:14 |
T_A_N_K |
http://youtu.be/igQlbesF0zA |
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| 19:18 |
* PilzAdam |
is #17 in number of posts in forum |
| 19:21 |
Phitherek_ |
rubenwardy: ping |
| 19:21 |
NekoGloop |
I'm last place probably lol |
| 19:26 |
PilzAdam |
what animals should i add to my mobs mod? |
| 19:27 |
NekoGloop |
Sheep. Something hostile that doesnt rip off of minecraft and isnt op. |
| 19:27 |
PilzAdam |
i have sheep, and 3 hostiles that arent MC rip offs. |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
yes? |
| 19:28 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs#readme |
| 19:28 |
iqualfragile |
realbadangel: that might sound stupid but i was unable to find tubes anywhere. |
| 19:29 |
iqualfragile |
there are no tubes in vanessae s pipeworks and there are none in your pipeworks |
| 19:29 |
iqualfragile |
where do i get them from? |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
From latest pipeworks instead of oldest one? |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
i think they arent rleased yet |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
No they are |
| 19:30 |
* Jordach |
is #1 for forum posts |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
i know |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
Rba hasnt given them a use yet |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, nice channel |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
so back to animals: what should i add? |
| 19:32 |
iqualfragile |
pigs |
| 19:32 |
NekoGloop |
Sheep & hostiles are enough |
| 19:32 |
NekoGloop |
Skeleton rape is not good. |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
mabe an animal that MC doesnt have? |
| 19:32 |
NekoGloop |
Gloop! |
| 19:33 |
iqualfragile |
and something wich spawns near lava (neightbors) and explodes |
| 19:33 |
NekoGloop |
re: my video game :D |
| 19:38 |
jin_xi |
woodchucks |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
errr.... yes |
| 19:39 |
NekoGloop |
They destroy wood and trees? |
| 19:40 |
OldCoder |
<NekoGloop> Skeleton rape is not good. |
| 19:40 |
OldCoder |
I really need to follow these threads better |
| 19:40 |
OldCoder |
O_o |
| 19:40 |
NekoGloop |
The freakin things shouldnt have bows. |
| 19:41 |
iqualfragile |
The dirt monster spawns at night on grass and get killed on day when its too light. |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:41 |
iqualfragile |
it should be too bright, shoudnt it? |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
my dictionary says light is also possible |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
6th translation of light |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
is "hell" |
| 19:50 |
PilzAdam |
can anyone tell me, why the tree growing and dirt -> dirt_with_grass functions are implemented in c++ and not lua? |
| 19:51 |
NekoGloop |
Because derp? |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
they haven't been moved to lua yet I guess :-) |
| 19:51 |
jin_xi |
maybe because they where there before lua was added |
| 19:52 |
* jin_xi |
is reading trough mapgen now |
| 19:52 |
PilzAdam |
they should be moved to lua |
| 19:52 |
jin_xi |
i made a flat map generator function |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
we should do all we can to get this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=42665#p42665 |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
if we get this then MT is better as MC |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
new homepage for my mod forum/browser: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/index.php |
| 19:55 |
PilzAdam |
carts has 3d objects, too |
| 19:56 |
rubenwardy |
what does any (/every) one think of my new homepage? |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
there is no user list |
| 19:57 |
rubenwardy |
i know |
| 19:57 |
rubenwardy |
todo, it is not important |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
IMO you should first work on functionality than on design |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
those buttons took 5 mins |
| 19:58 |
* PilzAdam |
wants to rate mods |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
you can |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
you can like/unlike |
| 19:58 |
PilzAdam |
where? |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
no dislike/un-dislike yet, just need to make a button to do that |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
the + link to right of each mod's page |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
when you are signed in |
| 19:59 |
PilzAdam |
ahhh |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
night all |
| 19:59 |
NekoGloop |
It's not nighttime |
| 20:00 |
PilzAdam |
it is |
| 20:00 |
NekoGloop |
No it's not |
| 20:00 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, the +/- link is at a strange position if the post is long |
| 20:00 |
NekoGloop |
</troll> |
| 20:01 |
rubenwardy |
i know |
| 20:01 |
rubenwardy |
it is temporary |
| 20:01 |
rubenwardy |
i will use a fixed-at-the-top icon |
| 20:02 |
rubenwardy |
it is night for me |
| 20:02 |
PilzAdam |
if you want to work on design: make something minetest like |
| 20:03 |
rubenwardy |
minetest like as in the forum style |
| 20:03 |
PilzAdam |
idk |
| 20:04 |
PilzAdam |
general question: what does the "Tape and Glue" in the singleplayer tab in the main MT GUI mean? why is it there? |
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| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
just a name holder |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
celeron did not know what else to put |
| 20:06 |
NekoGloop |
It's because minetest was put together with tape and glue |
| 20:07 |
thexyz |
== duct tape |
| 20:09 |
PilzAdam |
w00t! I had no account in MT wiki!!! |
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thexyz |
and you know, duct tape can fix everything |
| 20:09 |
NekoGloop |
I will get one when i feel up to it, |
| 20:09 |
jin_xi |
duct tape is overrated, cable ties is where it's at! |
| 20:10 |
mika__ |
lax0kex |
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PilzAdam |
why can i edit this wiki page!?! |
| 20:20 |
NekoGloop |
Because your account sucks, please upgrade for $20 |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
what page? |
| 20:20 |
PilzAdam |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mod_list |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
i have to select cats all the time! |
| 20:22 |
PilzAdam |
gtg |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
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T_A_N_K |
here's some code that this game could have used a long long time ago |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
minetest.register_on_placenode(function(pos, newnode, placer, oldnode) |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
test = placer:getpos() |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
mathtestx = pos.x - test.x |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
mathtesty = pos.y - test.y |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
mathtestz = pos.z - test.z |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
print(mathtesty) |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
if mathtestx < 0.8 and mathtestx > -0.79 and mathtesty < 1.51 and mathtesty > -0.4 and mathtestz < 0.8 and mathtestz > -0.79 then |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
minetest.env:remove_node(pos) |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
print(mathtesty) |
| 20:25 |
T_A_N_K |
end |
| 20:26 |
T_A_N_K |
end) |
| 20:26 |
T_A_N_K |
stops you from placing blocks inside yourself |
| 20:26 |
* T_A_N_K |
nudges celeron55 |
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T_A_N_K |
oops, forgot to give the player back their item |
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* jordach |
is on a tablet :-) |
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jordach |
OldCoder: pm? |
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OldCoder |
jordach, I am here |
| 20:33 |
* M13 |
is AFK |
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sfan5[iPod] |
T_A_N_K: you will lose the block |
| 20:37 |
T_A_N_K |
yes i know, i am trying to work that out right now, with newnode and i'm trying to see what the give command uses, but i cannot seem to find it |
| 20:38 |
jordach |
sfan. android is better than your ipod :-) |
| 20:39 |
sfan5[iPod] |
just use minetest.env:drop_item(pos, newnode.name) |
| 20:39 |
T_A_N_K |
no, i want this to be as professional and clean as possible mate |
| 20:40 |
sfan5[iPod] |
..... |
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T_A_N_K |
now i tried this minetest.env:get_inventory():add_item("main", newnode) |
| 20:47 |
T_A_N_K |
but get_inventory() is nil |
| 20:48 |
NekoGloop |
Because you didnt specify what inventory |
| 20:48 |
NekoGloop |
puncher:get_inventory() |
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T_A_N_K |
thanks |
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T_A_N_K |
what does "main" in placer:get_inventory():add_item("main", newnode) signify? |
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NekoGloop |
The main inventory (not the craftgrid or craft prefiew) |
| 21:02 |
T_A_N_K |
HMMMM even if i do placer:get_inventory():add_item("main", newnode.name) it seems to not put the node into the player's inventory |
| 21:03 |
hmmmm |
how unfortunate... |
| 21:03 |
hmmmm |
sounds like a problem. |
| 21:04 |
T_A_N_K |
oops sorry |
| 21:04 |
T_A_N_K |
didn't know there was anyone named hmmm in here lol |
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VanessaE |
someone needs to write a program that will go through a minetest map, pick out everything that's been modified, and apply all of those changes on top of a new map with the same seed. |
| 21:19 |
VanessaE |
force the mapgen to re-generate the unmodified territory, so that stuff like moreores can start generating in parts of the map that haven't been altered |
| 21:20 |
jordach |
:-) +99 |
| 21:24 |
hmmmm |
i suppose what you could do is generate a new map with all the same sectors that exist on the old one, find differences if any, and save those |
| 21:24 |
hmmmm |
it's very simple |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
that's exactly what I propose |
| 21:24 |
hmmmm |
oh wait, that is what you said pretty much |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I just tend to be a little verbose |
| 21:25 |
hmmmm |
basically what would be needed is for you to pull the mapgen from minetest, the sqlite code, and it's absolutely trivial |
| 21:26 |
jin_xi |
VanessaE: start learning c++ already =) |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
pfft |
| 21:26 |
hmmmm |
seriously, it's not like some major effort |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
I'll leave it to people who know wtf they're doing :-) |
| 21:26 |
hmmmm |
learning how to code with C++ is NOT like learning german or something |
| 21:27 |
M13 |
Vanessa |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
it is if your mind has been poisoned by BASIC. :-) |
| 21:27 |
hmmmm |
it's just understanding how to work with a set of given tools, and if you already know how to program, it's just learning a slightly different set of rules |
| 21:27 |
M13 |
Vanessa |
| 21:27 |
hmmmm |
BASIC doesn't poison your mind..... that's just some crap that Dijstrika said |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
besides I've seen how c55 reacts to code that is imperfect. |
| 21:27 |
hmmmm |
he says that about everything |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
M13, what |
| 21:27 |
M13 |
Im making a Texture Pack |
| 21:28 |
hmmmm |
sounds to me like it's just an excuse tbh |
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| 21:28 |
M13 |
its 8x8 |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 21:28 |
M13 |
its coming along great |
| 21:29 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
last time I tried to get into C++ I couldn't understand a damn thing about it,. |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
(years ago, helping my sister with a school project. She didn't understand it either) |
| 21:29 |
M13 |
Vanessa how do you make a picture see through in gimp |
| 21:30 |
M13 |
for glass |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
M13: Layer -> Transparency -> Add Alpha Channel |
| 21:30 |
M13 |
I cant |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
then use the eraser to remove what you want to make see-through |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
why not? |
| 21:31 |
M13 |
its not clickable |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
then the image already has an alpha channel. |
| 21:31 |
hmmmm |
guys |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
just use the eraser |
| 21:31 |
M13 |
ok |
| 21:31 |
hmmmm |
what slopes do you like better? http://i.imgur.com/nPodc.png or http://i.imgur.com/RbZq8.png ? |
| 21:32 |
jordach |
vanessa, cpp is easy :-) |
| 21:32 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: nPodc.png |
| 21:32 |
hmmmm |
i see |
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| 21:32 |
hmmmm |
anyone else? |
| 21:33 |
hmmmm |
keep in mind that you need even land to build on |
| 21:34 |
VanessaE |
that's why I chose the first one - the slopes look smoother in places, less drastic |
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| 21:34 |
hmmmm |
there is undoubtably more variance with the first |
| 21:34 |
hmmmm |
but in the parts where there is variance it tends to be less drastic |
| 21:34 |
hmmmm |
eratic rather |
| 21:35 |
hmmmm |
alright, it stays. |
| 21:40 |
Neirdan |
Could anyone give me his opinion on this: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=47037 ? :> |
| 21:41 |
hmmmm |
i could be wrong but i think minetest does that already |
| 21:41 |
Neirdan |
Probably. |
| 21:41 |
LAD |
hmmm how u doing |
| 21:41 |
Neirdan |
I'm too dumb to understand the minetest code. |
| 21:41 |
jordach |
no one here is dumb :-) |
| 21:42 |
hmmmm |
nah, it's definitely quirky at points, you just need to get familiar with it |
| 21:42 |
Neirdan |
And since there is no documentation or anything, I'm doing that myself to understand it. |
| 21:42 |
jordach |
night all :-) |
| 21:42 |
hmmmm |
there is SOME documentation |
| 21:42 |
hmmmm |
it's rather general though, and details are few and far in between |
| 21:42 |
Neirdan |
I didn't find any on the wiki, all I found is some chart. |
| 21:42 |
hmmmm |
right |
| 21:43 |
hmmmm |
i ought to write up documentation on the packets sometime |
| 21:44 |
hmmmm |
i think the lack of documentation is the primary reason why there are so few contributors |
| 21:45 |
hmmmm |
yet look at all the mod contributors, the modding api is extensively documented |
| 21:45 |
Neirdan |
I searched content_mapblock, mapblock, map, mapnode, game, tile, voxel and I couldn't find where exactly the map is generated, where cubes are combined in bigger meshes and so on |
| 21:45 |
T_A_N_K |
i found something weird about on_placenode, when you try to add the same node that the player is placing back to their inventory, it will not add it back in |
| 21:45 |
hmmmm |
the map is generated in mapgen.cpp :p |
| 21:45 |
hmmmm |
make_block |
| 21:45 |
T_A_N_K |
unless you have another stack of the node with at least less than 98 |
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Neirdan |
Not the generation, the display dude. |
| 21:45 |
hmmmm |
mesh generation |
| 21:46 |
T_A_N_K |
is there a work around for this? |
| 21:47 |
hmmmm |
check out mapblock_mesh.cpp |
| 21:48 |
hmmmm |
I spend most of my time on server.cpp, game.cpp, mapgen.cpp, noise.cpp, and related things, so I don't really look at the 3d graphics part of the engine |
| 21:48 |
Neirdan |
Thanks for the tips, I'm checking it. |
| 21:50 |
Neirdan |
scene::SMesh* makeMapBlockMesh(MeshMakeData *data) < that's what I was looking for |
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| 21:53 |
Neirdan |
Leads me to the conclusion; I'll do my own thing and compare. |
| 22:06 |
LAD |
any 1 know how to use node_ownership |
| 22:09 |
LAD |
any 1 at all |
| 22:09 |
cy1 |
Just added a recipe for gift chests on mah world. a viola above a locked chest. ._. |
| 22:09 |
LAD |
any 1 know how to use node_ownership |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
node_ownership is just a |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
minetest.register_on_dig or something |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
that checks metadata for owner property |
| 22:10 |
LAD |
whats the cmd?? |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
lol |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
I dunno |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
never used it |
| 22:10 |
LAD |
XD |
| 22:10 |
LAD |
nope |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
The land is the people's land! |
| 22:10 |
LAD |
never had to |
| 22:10 |
LAD |
i know what it dous just dont know how to set it |
| 22:10 |
cy1 |
If someone wrecks shit I'll just restore from a backup. |
| 22:11 |
LAD |
so do u know how to set?? |
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| 22:14 |
LAD |
so do u know how?? |
| 22:15 |
NakedFury |
he has never used it |
| 22:15 |
LAD |
XD |
| 22:15 |
LAD |
is there any 1 whos know wat the cmds are to it |
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cy1 |
if you want to grant someone node ownership /grant someone interact. if you want to take away /revoke someone interact `-` |
| 22:17 |
LAD |
XD thats interact |
| 22:17 |
LAD |
im talking about the mod node_ownership |
| 22:21 |
LAD |
hmm |
| 22:21 |
LAD |
so dous any 1 know how to use the mod node_ownership???? |
| 22:23 |
NekoGloop |
Nope. |
| 22:23 |
LAD |
hmm darn |
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pskosinski |
Anything new from last month? |
| 22:37 |
Phitherek_ |
uhhh, finally it works: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43036#p43036 ;) |
| 22:38 |
Phitherek_ |
kind of, I need to discuss the Rubenwardy' s Mod Forum issues with him |
| 22:40 |
pskosinski |
Nothing :( |
| 22:44 |
NekoGloop |
I'm new since last month (or so) |
| 22:45 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Hi. PM when chance. |
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NekoGloop |
Meow? |
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* Phitherek_ |
breaks the silence |
| 23:21 |
Phitherek_ |
for a while |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
Shh |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
You'll wake up the oerkki |
| 23:22 |
Phitherek_ |
who? I don' t have this name on the list... |
| 23:23 |
NekoGloop |
Oerkki == mob from 0.3.1 |
| 23:23 |
Phitherek_ |
ah, I see |
| 23:23 |
Phitherek_ |
I came here when there was 0.4.1 already |
| 23:24 |
Phitherek_ |
so I didn' t know :D |
| 23:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I came here when there wasn't inventory on the left side of the screen |
| 23:24 |
NekoGloop |
There isnt -_- |
| 23:25 |
khonkhortisan |
http://upload.maciejkwas.pl/plik5/home.jpg |
| 23:25 |
khonkhortisan |
look at the laptop |
| 23:25 |
* Phitherek_ |
is attacked by oerkki |
| 23:25 |
* Phitherek_ |
dies |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
Page doesnt load |
| 23:25 |
* Phitherek_ |
respawns |
| 23:26 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.net -> download -> miscellaneous -> http://c55.me/random/2010-10/vuoriluola.png |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
I want tht |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
that* |
| 23:27 |
khonkhortisan |
it's a two-year-old picture I think |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
Lol? |
| 23:28 |
T_A_N_K |
that picture is from 2009 |
| 23:28 |
T_A_N_K |
in 0.000 pre-alpha |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
I want that sidebar :( |
| 23:29 |
khonkhortisan |
back when grass had dirt in it, not the other way around |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
Them textures look like crap though lol |
| 23:30 |
T_A_N_K |
oh they were |
| 23:30 |
T_A_N_K |
those are footsteps |
| 23:30 |
T_A_N_K |
back then you used to leave a trail |
| 23:30 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. |
| 23:31 |
khonkhortisan |
If we get rain, we can add trails back |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
Which sidebar do you mean? The icons on the left? |
| 23:31 |
NekoGloop |
Yes |
| 23:31 |
khonkhortisan |
yep |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 23:31 |
T_A_N_K |
yes, someone already began development for rain+snow 6 months ago |
| 23:31 |
T_A_N_K |
it was amazing, idk what happened to it |
| 23:32 |
khonkhortisan |
the one that replaced all the air with rain? |
| 23:32 |
T_A_N_K |
no, it was a client change |
| 23:32 |
T_A_N_K |
when clouds came over, it rained or snowed |
| 23:32 |
khonkhortisan |
that would be the right way to do it, lua doesn't know about clouds. |
| 23:33 |
T_A_N_K |
oh it was, i wish the person had asked celeron to put it in walking through a snow storm was fun |
| 23:33 |
T_A_N_K |
s/in walking/in, walking |
| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
Make cloud blocks spawn and be breakable & fluffy |
| 23:34 |
T_A_N_K |
that's actually a really good idea |
| 23:34 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah I thought I could walk on the clouds while they were moving |
| 23:34 |
khonkhortisan |
then I'd get stuck there until I found a way down |
| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
What about aether-style clouds? |
| 23:35 |
NekoGloop |
Or even a aether entirely? |
| 23:35 |
T_A_N_K |
cloud blocks spawn, and replace the air blocks below them with rain or snow blocks |
| 23:35 |
T_A_N_K |
that's a good idea |
| 23:35 |
NekoGloop |
That would be freakin awesome to have the aether in minetest |
| 23:35 |
T_A_N_K |
jeija created nyancat heaven, so it is very possible |
| 23:35 |
NekoGloop |
Obviously minus those haxxor flying things that knock you off! :D |
| 23:35 |
khonkhortisan |
entities fall smoothly and have a limit of 49 per block. Nodes have no limit and jump down. |
| 23:36 |
NekoGloop |
No, nodes have limit |
| 23:36 |
NekoGloop |
Nodes turn into entity while falling |
| 23:36 |
Phitherek_ |
hmmm |
| 23:36 |
NekoGloop |
Does anyone even LOOK at the code that handles this in default/init.lua? |
| 23:36 |
T_A_N_K |
what i mean by a rain block is an animated block, not entities |
| 23:37 |
Phitherek_ |
in http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3076 it wrote, that I added it today although I added it yesterday |
| 23:37 |
khonkhortisan |
animated node with an abm to create another one under it? |
| 23:37 |
Phitherek_ |
I had a strange feeling for a moment that I got back in time :o |
| 23:38 |
NekoGloop |
You did. |
| 23:38 |
Phitherek_ |
my IRC log says the other way |
| 23:38 |
Phitherek_ |
:P |
| 23:39 |
NekoGloop |
You brought it with you. |
| 23:40 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: nodes only jump down because there's nothing in the protocol to "move" node contents, like, at all. All it can do is tell you a node has been destroyed in one place, and another created in another. Sort of screwy, but if the protocol had node movement you could smoothly move 'em in the client. |
| 23:40 |
cy1 |
As-is there's no way for the client to guess that a destroyed node will be imminently created one block over, so animation is difficult if not impossible. |
| 23:41 |
Phitherek_ |
NekoGloop: No way, then everyone would have to done that, as I see present conversation and not yesterday' s :D |
| 23:41 |
T_A_N_K |
creating an animated block is not difficult, just follow the way lava does it (i'm guessing) |
| 23:41 |
Phitherek_ |
and when I logged in the forum said Yesterday ;) |
| 23:42 |
cy1 |
Animated textures are possible, but you'll notice that lava doesn't actually flow. It just creates blocks nearby that look like they would have flowed. |
| 23:42 |
NekoGloop |
No, your presence has caused the irc conversation to shift. |
| 23:42 |
Phitherek_ |
I see :D |
| 23:43 |
* Phitherek_ |
takes the #minetest back in time |
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Octupus |
hola |
| 23:46 |
* Phitherek_ |
wonders, if he hasn' t got too annoying... |
| 23:52 |
T_A_N_K |
cy1: what does this even have to do with rain? i'm talking about animated textures |
| 23:53 |
T_A_N_K |
http://youtu.be/IpIllvkDRUM |
| 23:54 |
cy1 |
T_A_N_K: your animated texture rain couldn't go beyond one node. It'd have to create rain nodes below it, in 1 second intervals. |
| 23:55 |
T_A_N_K |
or just create it on the first chunk render every tick of the server and then stop the loop until there is a node update +1 y,z,or x axis away from it |
| 23:55 |
T_A_N_K |
or to save even more cpu just the y axis |
| 23:57 |
T_A_N_K |
just a pointable = false block, solid, no other features besides wanting to create another block of itself directly below if there is a node update or air below it |
| 23:57 |
T_A_N_K |
tada, rain |
| 23:57 |
cy1 |
T_A_N_K: or just change the protocol so the server can say "this rain is falling down" |
| 23:58 |
T_A_N_K |
yes yes, that would be a lot easier, but i guess this way it'd be kind of dynamic, if you changed it to what you said it'd take probably 1-4 hours to put in rain and BAM weather is created |
| 23:58 |
cy1 |
T_A_N_K: yeah, well whatever works. I've been calling for a protocol update for movable nodes for a bit now. |
| 23:59 |
cy1 |
It also enables 3D mobs and avatars to well, actually move |
