Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:01 |
FreeFull |
Yesterday I ate sandwiches, a jacket potato, a pomegranate, banana and pizza |
00:01 |
VanessaE |
neko, you do realize it's going to take a *shitload* of nodeboxes to make an enchanting table look right, yes? |
00:02 |
NekoGloop |
vanessae: you do realize i'm not working on the *shitload* of code an enchanting table needs, yes? |
00:02 |
FreeFull |
Because minetest doesn't allow rotating nodeboxes |
00:03 |
NekoGloop |
who gives a fuck if it rotates |
00:03 |
VanessaE |
well if you're not working on it, who will? :-) |
00:03 |
NekoGloop |
someone |
00:03 |
NekoGloop |
someone other than me |
00:04 |
FreeFull |
If you want a rotated cuboid, you need a fuckton of nodeboxes to make it look right |
00:04 |
NekoGloop |
freefull: re: who gives a fuck if it rotates |
00:04 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I think he means the flipping-pages effect |
00:05 |
FreeFull |
And the book covers |
00:05 |
NekoGloop |
no the actual book turns at you |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
(not to mention the book co--- yeah |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
well rotating the whole book is easy - render it into an entity the way Animals does, and then set the pitch/yaw/etc as needed |
00:06 |
VanessaE |
even the flowing glyphs effect would be easy (more entities) |
00:06 |
NekoGloop |
checking the amount of bookcases: shit hard |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
not at all |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
very easily done |
00:07 |
FreeFull |
Shouldn't be too hard to count the number of bookcases in a certain radius |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
there's a function to find nearby nodes of a given name |
00:07 |
NekoGloop |
but to make sure they are 1 block away? (not adjacent) |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
- find_nodes_in_area(minp, maxp, nodenames) -> list of positions |
00:07 |
VanessaE |
iterate through the returned list to get a count |
00:08 |
VanessaE |
I asume minp/maxp are the inside and outside radii of the search region |
00:08 |
NekoGloop |
trying to process your command returned a nil value, function may not exist |
00:08 |
VanessaE |
(the APi doesn't say) |
00:08 |
NekoGloop |
(i.e. idk what you just said) |
00:08 |
VanessaE |
who gives a shit if it exists, always require the latest version ;-) |
00:09 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
00:09 |
VanessaE |
wait, no, minp/maxp are probably {x,y,z} positions defining the search cube. |
00:09 |
VanessaE |
that makes it even easier. |
00:10 |
NekoGloop |
ERROR[main]: NekoGloop.exe is unable to process the function: "give_a_shit". Program must shut down. |
00:10 |
VanessaE |
This program has performed an illegal operation and must be shut down. |
00:10 |
VanessaE |
:) |
00:10 |
FreeFull |
Division by don't give a fuck |
00:11 |
NekoGloop |
ERROR[main]: NekoGloop.exe is attempting division by zero. You may experience lag. |
00:11 |
FreeFull |
0/0 gives you an error |
00:11 |
FreeFull |
But 0.0/0.0 will give you +Inf |
00:12 |
FreeFull |
Actually, no, NaN |
00:12 |
FreeFull |
1.0/0.0 will give you +Inf |
00:12 |
NekoGloop |
DEBUG[sub]: NekoGloop.exe has encountered difficulties processing constant "+Inf" |
00:13 |
NekoGloop |
DEBUG[main]: NekoGloop.exe is attempting to open program "black_magic_of_lua.exe". Allow? |
00:13 |
FreeFull |
Yes |
00:14 |
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00:14 |
NekoGloop |
FATALERROR[main]: NekoGloop.exe is unable to find program "black_magic_of_lua.exe", but process has highest priority. |
00:15 |
NekoGloop |
DEBUG[main]: ErrorTrace: folder "C:\Program Files\lua_powahs\" does not exist |
00:17 |
NekoGloop |
DEBUG[main]: NekoGloop.exe does not have folder permissions to folder "C:\Program Files\", yet NekoGloop.exe is attempting to access folder "C:\Program Files\". Allow? |
00:18 |
NekoGloop |
ok well that killed the chat |
00:18 |
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00:19 |
Octupus |
hello |
00:19 |
FreeFull |
Hi |
00:19 |
Keegann |
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00:26 |
NekoGloop |
i'm really bored lol |
00:27 |
NekoGloop |
i have no idea what i just made: http://ompldr.org/vZmVudw |
00:28 |
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00:29 |
Keegann |
hey landmne |
00:29 |
Keegann |
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00:29 |
Octupus |
hola miseal |
00:30 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: any idea what to call this: http://ompldr.org/vZmVudw ? lol |
00:30 |
LandMine |
hi |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
no clue, except it looks like the hilt for some fancy sword |
00:30 |
LandMine |
im griefing his server at the moment Keegann lol |
00:30 |
MiJyn |
NekoGloop: SWORD! |
00:31 |
Keegann |
NO |
00:31 |
Keegann |
wait whos |
00:31 |
Octupus |
lm who u griefing? |
00:31 |
LandMine |
m13 |
00:31 |
NekoGloop |
m13, duh |
00:31 |
Keegann |
dont |
00:31 |
Octupus |
y |
00:31 |
LandMine |
his 30001 server |
00:31 |
NekoGloop |
i even got that |
00:31 |
Keegann |
dont |
00:31 |
LandMine |
i already did lol |
00:31 |
Keegann |
dont |
00:31 |
Octupus |
your phoniex |
00:31 |
LandMine |
burned down a giant house |
00:31 |
LandMine |
and lava;d spawn |
00:31 |
Keegann |
dont |
00:31 |
Keegann |
stop' |
00:32 |
Keegann |
plz stop |
00:32 |
NekoGloop |
landmine: did you at least take a suvenier? |
00:32 |
LandMine |
ohh yeah |
00:32 |
Keegann |
serio |
00:32 |
LandMine |
i got stuff hidden everywhere lol |
00:32 |
Octupus |
he shitting with u keegan lol |
00:32 |
LandMine |
im not actually |
00:32 |
Octupus |
there aint no lava |
00:32 |
LandMine |
come check it out |
00:32 |
LandMine |
ohh its his 30000 |
00:33 |
Octupus |
oh |
00:33 |
LandMine |
m13.sytes.net:30000 |
00:33 |
Keegann |
landmine sto[ |
00:33 |
Keegann |
you login as my name |
00:33 |
Octupus |
stop griefing landmine |
00:33 |
LandMine |
i didnt login with your name |
00:33 |
LandMine |
im landmine lol |
00:34 |
Keegann |
LandMine STOP NOW |
00:34 |
MiJyn |
or else... kick or... |
00:35 |
LandMine |
hmm why should i stop keegann? |
00:35 |
Octupus |
i found your chest landmine |
00:36 |
LandMine |
lol yeah |
00:36 |
Keegann |
mother fucker i thought you change |
00:36 |
LandMine |
i got a couple more |
00:36 |
LandMine |
lol |
00:36 |
LandMine |
got out quick |
00:36 |
LandMine |
hahah |
00:38 |
Octupus |
landmine u didnt change i cant believe i believed u |
00:39 |
LandMine |
i did change man |
00:39 |
Octupus |
so y u still griefing |
00:40 |
Keegann |
stfu |
00:40 |
NekoGloop |
because he got more crafty |
00:40 |
NekoGloop |
tricking you into beliving him was part of the plan |
00:40 |
LandMine |
lol |
00:40 |
NekoGloop |
it's so obvious, I'm surprised you all didnt see it. |
00:41 |
Octupus |
IL GO APE SHIT ON YOUR ASS |
00:41 |
LandMine |
wow octupus me and you are cool brha |
00:42 |
Octupus |
FUCK U |
00:42 |
VanessaE |
ok that's enough. |
00:42 |
VanessaE |
all three of you. |
00:42 |
Keegann |
LandMine hope you get hit by a fucking bus |
00:42 |
LandMine |
lol |
00:42 |
NekoGloop |
which three lol |
00:42 |
LandMine |
lol |
00:42 |
LandMine |
you 3 |
00:43 |
|
LandMine was kicked by VanessaE: LandMine |
00:43 |
NekoGloop |
... well that was... interesting... |
00:44 |
Octupus |
ok vanessa srry |
00:44 |
VanessaE |
problem solved. |
00:44 |
Octupus |
i didnt mean to go ape **** on his *** but he griefed a very good friend |
00:44 |
Keegann |
screw him |
00:45 |
NekoGloop |
dont you see...? It's all part of his plan. |
00:45 |
NekoGloop |
Am I the only one here who could see landmine's plan? |
00:45 |
NekoGloop |
If so, no wonder I'm good at chess. |
00:46 |
VanessaE |
I figured he was going in that direction |
00:46 |
Keegann |
shut up |
00:46 |
Octupus |
he lucky i was pissed :) |
00:46 |
VanessaE |
keegan, please don't continue |
00:47 |
Keegann |
ok |
00:47 |
Keegann |
>:( |
00:48 |
* NekoGloop |
gives keegann a glass of mtn dew and tells him to calm down |
00:48 |
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00:52 |
VanessaE |
Mt. Dew and you expect him, a 12 year old mind you, to calm down? |
00:52 |
VanessaE |
with all that caffeine!? |
00:52 |
Keegann |
why not root beer |
00:52 |
NekoGloop |
i calm down with mtn dew... |
00:52 |
OldCoder |
Better than real beer |
00:52 |
VanessaE |
(nevermind the sugar content) |
00:53 |
VanessaE |
beer? ick. |
00:53 |
VanessaE |
evening OC. |
00:53 |
OldCoder |
I stopped a few months ago |
00:53 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
00:54 |
NekoGloop |
I'm supposedly working on an enchanting table |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
Geez that is a... lively exchange above |
00:54 |
NekoGloop |
yes it is |
00:54 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: yep, you raised the idea, so now it's all up to you to do it ;) |
00:54 |
Octupus |
i dont drink sodas |
00:54 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
00:54 |
NekoGloop |
its all up to me |
00:54 |
OldCoder |
Iced Teas are good |
00:54 |
Octupus |
yep |
00:54 |
Keegann |
hope LandMne gets hit by a bus |
00:54 |
NekoGloop |
and its gonna get done in -666 years |
00:54 |
Octupus |
LIM |
00:54 |
Octupus |
LIME |
00:55 |
* VanessaE |
offers up some hot vegetable+chicken broth |
00:55 |
* NekoGloop |
declines vanessae's offer |
00:55 |
Octupus |
ohhh so vanessa u been in the hunger games now hmmmmm |
00:55 |
VanessaE |
no |
00:55 |
VanessaE |
I don't care for that. |
00:55 |
Octupus |
lol |
00:55 |
Octupus |
I HOPE PEETA DIES |
00:55 |
NekoGloop |
i wonder if there will be another minetest hunger games |
00:55 |
NekoGloop |
I missed the first one |
00:55 |
Octupus |
and gale and katniss get married :) |
00:56 |
Octupus |
the quell is dumb |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
its a concept that, honestly, I find disgusting. kids fighting each other to the death? no. just, no. |
00:57 |
Keegann |
its cool |
00:57 |
Octupus |
but katniss won so i guess shes a boss |
00:58 |
Octupus |
peeta was like a dieing cow |
01:00 |
VanessaE |
meh. I still don't see the appeal. |
01:00 |
NekoGloop |
i just realized the hunger games server is open |
01:00 |
VanessaE |
evening chaplain/thomas. |
01:01 |
chaplain |
evening VanessaE :) |
01:01 |
chaplain |
hope you're lovely |
01:01 |
Octupus |
if i be in hunger games me and vanessa going be from discrict 12 |
01:01 |
Octupus |
XD |
01:01 |
chaplain |
doing lovely even |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
chaplain: as soon as I get my fur smoothed back down |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
:) |
01:02 |
* chaplain |
pats VanessaE's fur back down |
01:02 |
Keegann |
wth |
01:02 |
VanessaE |
haha |
01:02 |
Octupus |
vaneesa u wanna come to the reaping with me ? |
01:02 |
VanessaE |
uh, no. |
01:03 |
Octupus |
discrict 12 |
01:03 |
NekoGloop |
who wants to play hunger games on infinity's server? |
01:03 |
Octupus |
i let u kill me first :) |
01:03 |
VanessaE |
pass. |
01:03 |
OldCoder |
How sweet |
01:03 |
OldCoder |
You get to kill first :-) |
01:03 |
Keegann |
if landmine was my partner would kill him before the games start |
01:03 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
01:04 |
NekoGloop |
anyone? |
01:04 |
Octupus |
lol |
01:04 |
Keegann |
then let him get hit by a bus |
01:04 |
NekoGloop |
c'mon we dont need that many people |
01:04 |
Octupus |
i wud blow the place up like how catnip did XD |
01:04 |
NekoGloop |
although... i do appear to be stuck. |
01:04 |
NekoGloop |
wait hold on |
01:05 |
NekoGloop |
forgot about shift high jump |
01:05 |
Octupus |
rue was the best fighter in the hunger games |
01:05 |
NekoGloop |
(its a 0.4.2-rc1 server) |
01:06 |
NekoGloop |
who wants to do hunger games... minetest.ru:55555 |
01:06 |
Keegann |
no one |
01:06 |
Octupus |
build in discrict7 please |
01:06 |
Octupus |
i wan to kill the captitol |
01:07 |
NekoGloop |
aaaanyone? |
01:07 |
NekoGloop |
there's gotta be someone : |
01:07 |
NekoGloop |
:l* |
01:07 |
VanessaE |
no. |
01:07 |
VanessaE |
:) |
01:07 |
NekoGloop |
why not? |
01:08 |
VanessaE |
because I don't like PvP? |
01:08 |
VanessaE |
if I want that I can just go frag a bunch of bots in OpenArena. |
01:19 |
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01:19 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: *looks at -delta* ... sit still dammit :) |
01:19 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
01:24 |
NekoGloop |
would it be -that- hard to make a sword be damaged when hitting a player/mob? |
01:25 |
VanessaE |
I'd think that would be prettyeasy? |
01:25 |
NekoGloop |
then why isnt it in? |
01:25 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
01:25 |
NekoGloop |
its just wierd, using a wooden sword to kill 1k+ players |
01:25 |
Feorth |
Hey guys, what's the command to give privileges to someone? |
01:26 |
VanessaE |
I mean, you can tell when an entity has been hit (I assume a player too). can't a function be executed to reduce the health of the weapon? |
01:26 |
VanessaE |
Feorth: /grant <playername> priv,priv,... |
01:26 |
VanessaE |
(for however many privs you want to list) |
01:26 |
VanessaE |
so /grant singleplayer fly,fast |
01:26 |
Feorth |
Thanks Vanessa ;) |
01:26 |
VanessaE |
or /grant Feorth all |
01:27 |
VanessaE |
be careful when granting privileges. |
01:27 |
VanessaE |
always consider the potential harm such can do |
01:27 |
Feorth |
I see, thanks a lot. |
01:27 |
VanessaE |
yw |
01:28 |
NekoGloop |
dont give ban to someone with a nonpassword-ed account |
01:28 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
01:32 |
VanessaE |
ah, RBA should be along any minute now |
01:32 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
01:32 |
VanessaE |
(he always seems to join for real right after a timeout ;) ) |
01:32 |
NekoGloop |
generally, yes, i've noticed that as well |
01:32 |
NekoGloop |
maybe the timeout alerts him, and that makes him pay attention. |
01:33 |
VanessaE |
I always assumed it was a restart of his computer or client or so |
01:33 |
Keegann |
hello |
01:33 |
VanessaE |
hikeegan |
01:33 |
* Keegann |
is so mad |
01:33 |
VanessaE |
don't be mad |
01:34 |
VanessaE |
drink a red bull, go kill some bots or something, blow off some steam |
01:36 |
Keegann |
omg |
01:36 |
VanessaE |
? |
01:37 |
Keegann |
hate him so much |
01:37 |
VanessaE |
everyone does. |
01:37 |
Keegann |
hes still talking to me |
01:37 |
VanessaE |
/ignore |
01:37 |
NekoGloop |
/ignore LandMine |
01:37 |
Keegann |
t still doesnt help |
01:37 |
Keegann |
he just reconnects |
01:38 |
VanessaE |
Keegann: ignore by IP address then. he can change nick all he wants, but he can't force your client to listen to an IP it wants to ignore |
01:38 |
VanessaE |
/ignore *!*@whatever.his.host.is.now |
01:38 |
Keegann |
i did that once |
01:38 |
VanessaE |
and keep doing it until he runs out of IP addresses |
01:38 |
NekoGloop |
then rejoin yourself under a different nick |
01:39 |
VanessaE |
if he has access to a hundred IPs/hosts as he claims, you block all 100 of them as he switches around |
01:40 |
VanessaE |
sooner or later, he runs out of choices. |
01:40 |
VanessaE |
the probability of you blocking someone you actually want to talk to is fairly slim |
01:40 |
Keegann |
doubt that |
01:40 |
VanessaE |
trust me on this. |
01:41 |
* VanessaE |
<-- used to be an ISP admin plus 17 years of IRC experience. |
01:41 |
NekoGloop |
or he just gets annoyed as fuck and goes away |
01:41 |
NekoGloop |
:) |
01:41 |
VanessaE |
exactly |
01:41 |
VanessaE |
either he gets bored or he runs out of options |
01:44 |
NekoGloop |
i have an idea for what to call the previously linked thing |
01:44 |
NekoGloop |
"Diaminian Sword" :D |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
What, no Diamondium or Diamondillium? ;-) |
01:45 |
NekoGloop |
its obsidian sword with diamond extension |
01:45 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
01:46 |
NekoGloop |
uses technic diamonds |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
cool |
01:46 |
NekoGloop |
all dependencies will be optional for this mod, as they are only in recipes |
01:47 |
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01:48 |
NekoGloop |
"[21:48] == FreeFull [~freefulldefocus/sausage-lover] has joined #minetest" I think he likes sausages ;) |
01:49 |
NekoGloop |
anyone care to tell me how to set the inventory craftgrid to work as a smaller ver.? |
01:50 |
VanessaE |
dunno, ask thexyz ;) |
01:50 |
NekoGloop |
I'm assumming lua_api.txt is vague as hell, if its in at all |
01:50 |
NekoGloop |
OH I SEE |
01:50 |
VanessaE |
that makes one of us :D |
01:50 |
NekoGloop |
set_width(listname, width) |
01:51 |
NekoGloop |
now to figure out wth to plug in to the function ;) |
01:51 |
NekoGloop |
how do i call the inventory of a player? |
01:52 |
NekoGloop |
player:inv: ? |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
dunno, never tried |
01:52 |
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01:52 |
VanessaE |
evening 2cool |
01:52 |
_2cool4me4_ |
hola! |
01:52 |
_2cool4me4_ |
sorry, no upside down exclamation point |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
¡hola! |
01:53 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
wonders what kind of keyboard vanessaE has |
01:53 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78 FLANDRE SCARLET RANDOMNESS!! :D |
01:53 |
Keegann |
hello |
01:53 |
VanessaE |
a regular 105 like everyone else has. I just programmed it to allow for the compose keystroke per khonkhortisan's idea :-) |
01:53 |
_2cool4me4_ |
cool |
01:54 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Windows has character map for that |
01:54 |
_2cool4me4_ |
:( |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
in windows, ALT+keypad |
01:54 |
NekoGloop |
µ |
01:54 |
NekoGloop |
HOLY SHIT |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
three or four digits gets you a character |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
µ |
01:54 |
NekoGloop |
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I TYPED THAT |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
<compuse> m u |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
compose* |
01:54 |
NekoGloop |
æ |
01:54 |
NekoGloop |
cool |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
<compose> ! ! --> ¡ |
01:55 |
NekoGloop |
Ü this is 666 |
01:55 |
_2cool4me4_ |
whoah, that's cool |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
<compose> a e --> æ |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
etc et |
01:55 |
_2cool4me4_ |
what's the microcontroller icon? |
01:55 |
NekoGloop |
alt+unicode # |
01:55 |
NekoGloop |
look it up on charamap |
01:55 |
NekoGloop |
(i'm too lazy) |
01:56 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I have alt gr on this keyboard, but it doesn't work |
01:56 |
_2cool4me4_ |
it acts like a normal alt key |
01:56 |
VanessaE |
mu is probably Alt-181 |
01:56 |
_2cool4me4_ |
¦ |
01:56 |
NekoGloop |
â•¡ |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
try 230 |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
01:57 |
_2cool4me4_ |
nope |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
µ |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
230 |
01:57 |
_2cool4me4_ |
µ |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
you're using DOS Legacy mode then :-) |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
minetest doesnt like 2x2 grids :P |
01:57 |
_2cool4me4_ |
µµµ |
01:57 |
_2cool4me4_ |
that's a lot of work |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
µ230 µ1254 |
01:58 |
NekoGloop |
its both? |
01:58 |
_2cool4me4_ |
µ |
01:58 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I only get one |
01:58 |
NekoGloop |
do both numbers |
01:58 |
Keegann |
how do you delete a channel? |
01:58 |
_2cool4me4_ |
leave it |
01:58 |
NekoGloop |
keegann: you dont |
01:59 |
_2cool4me4_ |
F |
01:59 |
VanessaE |
tøø máñý şýmbø£ś |
01:59 |
_2cool4me4_ |
that's 2301254 |
01:59 |
NekoGloop |
☼ |
01:59 |
NekoGloop |
i have no idea :) |
01:59 |
VanessaE |
Keegann: an IRC channel? you just /part and when the last person leaves, the channel disappears, unless it's registered, |
01:59 |
* NekoGloop |
face-keyboarded there |
02:00 |
Keegann |
its register |
02:00 |
_2cool4me4_ |
? can anyone see that symbol? |
02:00 |
NekoGloop |
no 2cool |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
what symbol? |
02:00 |
_2cool4me4_ |
the one at the start of that message, icechat says ? |
02:00 |
NekoGloop |
oh |
02:00 |
NekoGloop |
you did type a ? |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
it's just a question mark for me |
02:00 |
_2cool4me4_ |
no, I didn't type a question mark |
02:00 |
NekoGloop |
literally, you typed a ? |
02:00 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I can' |
02:01 |
_2cool4me4_ |
t see it either |
02:01 |
NekoGloop |
well what did you press? |
02:02 |
NekoGloop |
ugh, how do i make the player's craftgrid be 2x2, but not have every 3x3 recipe fail? |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: afaik, 2x2 grids shift everything around |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
what was A B C |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
D E F |
02:03 |
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02:03 |
VanessaE |
G H I |
02:03 |
NekoGloop |
no i know |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
becomes A B |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
C D |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
02:03 |
NekoGloop |
set_width should work |
02:03 |
Keegann |
hello poca |
02:03 |
_2cool4me4_ |
mesecon wire is hard |
02:03 |
_2cool4me4_ |
hard wiring |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
naw, it's easy stuff. making stuff *with* it can be hard ;) |
02:03 |
NekoGloop |
its soft |
02:04 |
NekoGloop |
soft and fluffy |
02:05 |
NekoGloop |
ah, it only works if the mods depend on the mod that declares the player to have 2x2 |
02:06 |
NekoGloop |
eh...? |
02:06 |
NekoGloop |
my recipe is invalid...? |
02:06 |
leo_rockway |
I don't want to add fuel to the fire, but this thread says 4.3 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2974 |
02:07 |
* NekoGloop |
hears vanessae's banhammer raise slightly |
02:07 |
NekoGloop |
ok forget what i said about depending |
02:07 |
* VanessaE |
leaves the banhammer in its holster. |
02:07 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: perhaps you should re-load that thread ;) |
02:08 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
02:08 |
NekoGloop |
you edited it, you sly dog |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
yup |
02:08 |
leo_rockway |
huzzah! |
02:08 |
NekoGloop |
wat da fawk |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
less trouble than getting in an argument, less egregious than banning |
02:08 |
NekoGloop |
my thing isnt working |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: use more lube? |
02:08 |
* VanessaE |
runs |
02:09 |
NekoGloop |
how do i call the inventory of the fawking player |
02:09 |
NekoGloop |
nvm i found it :) |
02:10 |
NekoGloop |
HOLY SHIT THAT WORKED |
02:12 |
VanessaE |
what worked? |
02:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
calling on player inventory? |
02:15 |
NekoGloop |
yeh |
02:15 |
NekoGloop |
cant tell if I'm just lagging or player inventory crafting screwed up again |
02:16 |
NekoGloop |
lol its not working AT ALL |
02:16 |
NekoGloop |
(either that or i screwed up the recipe for this item) |
02:17 |
NekoGloop |
nope, it doesnt work at all |
02:17 |
NekoGloop |
not even on an angle like usual |
02:17 |
NekoGloop |
well that sucks ;_; |
02:22 |
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02:22 |
NekoGloop |
it seems to recognize i set the size, but not actually allow crafting |
02:23 |
NekoGloop |
aaaaand noone gives a shit so I'll shut up now |
02:24 |
NekoGloop |
do people even test these things before releasing them? |
02:25 |
NekoGloop |
is the problem at line 780 in inventory_manager.cpp? |
02:26 |
NekoGloop |
or lines 48 & 49 of player.cpp? |
02:27 |
NekoGloop |
seriously, I'm lost here. |
02:28 |
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02:29 |
LandMine_ |
i mback lol |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
02:29 |
Keegann |
fucker |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
VanessaE fuck you you fat CUNT! |
02:29 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I hope you get k-lined |
02:29 |
LandMine_ |
hahhaah |
02:29 |
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02:29 |
leo_rockway |
wow |
02:29 |
NekoGloop |
he left lol |
02:29 |
NekoGloop |
jsut as he was banned |
02:30 |
NekoGloop |
you know, i dont give a shit that i misspelled that |
02:30 |
_2cool4me4_ |
is there a way to ban his nick? |
02:30 |
leo_rockway |
Mexican |
02:30 |
leo_rockway |
_2cool4me4_: yes |
02:30 |
NekoGloop |
called /ignore |
02:30 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
02:31 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I tried to /ignore, but now he can message me again |
02:31 |
NekoGloop |
because of the _ |
02:31 |
_2cool4me4_ |
hrm |
02:31 |
NekoGloop |
ignore LandMine_ as well |
02:31 |
_2cool4me4_ |
he can use ssh tunneling to get on if he gets banned... *gran* |
02:32 |
_2cool4me4_ |
*groan* |
02:32 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
02:32 |
MiJyn |
whatever |
02:32 |
MiJyn |
banning is unethical |
02:32 |
MiJyn |
doesn't matter how annoying the person in |
02:32 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Not when you do that |
02:32 |
MiJyn |
*is |
02:32 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55 and/or thexyz: does set_width just not work? |
02:33 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Cause and effect. He spams the page and he gets banned. |
02:33 |
_2cool4me4_ |
page, channel, whatever :P |
02:34 |
VanessaE |
and now he messages me, "why did you ban me, hun?" |
02:34 |
VanessaE |
pfft |
02:34 |
leo_rockway |
is the nick registered? |
02:34 |
leo_rockway |
I don't remember how to check |
02:35 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn: banning may be unethical if undeserved, but if the original reason (constant trolling) isn't, the immediate above most certainly is. |
02:35 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: not sure |
02:35 |
_2cool4me4_ |
what is that mode tag? |
02:35 |
VanessaE |
b |
02:35 |
MiJyn |
<VanessaE> MiJyn: banning may be unethical if undeserved, but if the original reason (constant trolling) isn't, the immediate above most certainly is. |
02:35 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I meant what does it do? ;) |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
wait, which mode tag? |
02:36 |
_2cool4me4_ |
+b |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
that's the irc shorthand for ban. |
02:36 |
_2cool4me4_ |
hmm |
02:36 |
NekoGloop |
its a channel mode, keeps the ip from joining |
02:36 |
MiJyn |
VanessaE, like, for example, how I was banned on #minetest-dev. I was helping, but I wasn't "elite enough" |
02:36 |
MiJyn |
even though I know C/C++ very well |
02:36 |
MiJyn |
plus I worked on the minetest codebase for months |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
on various different sections |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn: I won't begin to explain celeron55's reasoning for using bans |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
and plus, LandMine wasn't being bad |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
I use them only sparingly and usually only when someone's being an asshole |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
he wasn't swearing |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
maybe a bit of spamming |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
but he stoped |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
*stopped |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
[09-07 22:29] <LandMine_> VanessaE fuck you you fat CUNT! |
02:37 |
NekoGloop |
mijyn: who's side are you on? 0.o |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
really? :-) |
02:37 |
MiJyn |
NekoGloop, LandMine! |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
VanessaE, okay, once |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
or a few times |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
he wasn't exactly being terrible |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
I'd ban someone if he was trying to destroy my product |
02:38 |
_2cool4me4_ |
mijyn: how about every time he joins the channel? |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
I don't care if he swears or calls me thigns |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
*things |
02:38 |
_2cool4me4_ |
He is trying to destroy the natural order of the channel. |
02:38 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn: every time I see him, he launches some sexist insult at me in particular |
02:38 |
NekoGloop |
mijyn: banning is supposedly nothing for landmine to get over. so let's ban him all we want |
02:38 |
VanessaE |
usually some variant of how I belong in the kitchen. |
02:38 |
MiJyn |
2cool, nope, he isn't destroying minetest |
02:39 |
MiJyn |
VanessaE, okay, and? I wouldn't mind if I were you |
02:39 |
_2cool4me4_ |
mijyn: but he is trying to destroy the working of the channel |
02:39 |
VanessaE |
I can take that much. |
02:39 |
MiJyn |
NekoGloop probably not, but why ban him? |
02:39 |
VanessaE |
but when he fucks with everyone and then launches into a tirade? ban. |
02:39 |
MiJyn |
2cool, no, he isn't. I know that for a fact |
02:39 |
MiJyn |
VanessaE, WHO CARES? The best way is ignoring! |
02:40 |
MiJyn |
just pretending not to know he's there |
02:40 |
MiJyn |
he'll learn |
02:40 |
MiJyn |
what you are doing is just feeding him |
02:40 |
MiJyn |
you are not any better than him if you are doing that |
02:40 |
MiJyn |
you are just hurting him and others |
02:41 |
VanessaE |
um... |
02:41 |
VanessaE |
as c55 would say, 'ehm, wut?' |
02:41 |
_2cool4me4_ |
using xchat on ubuntu, and unaffiliated? |
02:41 |
MiJyn |
2cool, okay...? |
02:41 |
_2cool4me4_ |
No point. |
02:41 |
MiJyn |
VanessaE, ugh, you are one of those types... No better than C55... Can never be corrected... |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn: the problem is, he hasn't learned. |
02:42 |
MiJyn |
because people kept feeding him! |
02:42 |
MiJyn |
By banning him! |
02:42 |
MiJyn |
<LandMine_> oldcoder what can i do so these people can love me again? |
02:42 |
MiJyn |
he said that |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
?? |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
yeah because he's trolling OC. |
02:42 |
* OldCoder |
is confused |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
Is somebody addressing me? |
02:42 |
MiJyn |
I know that type of person. He's just trying to get himself back up |
02:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
You can go back to sleep |
02:43 |
MiJyn |
nope |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
k |
02:43 |
MiJyn |
:) |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
OC, go back to sleep ;) |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
I am not sleeping yet |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
Folks: My proposal is this: |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
A bot that kicks based on nick plus patterns of insults |
02:43 |
OldCoder |
Would allow participation and free speech but impose limits |
02:44 |
_2cool4me4_ |
sounds like something in the Ubuntu channel |
02:44 |
OldCoder |
They have that? |
02:44 |
MiJyn |
no |
02:44 |
_2cool4me4_ |
they have a lot of bots |
02:44 |
_2cool4me4_ |
maybe not one that does that, but a lot |
02:45 |
MiJyn |
2cool, Y U CTCP ME? |
02:45 |
_2cool4me4_ |
sowwy |
02:45 |
MiJyn |
:P |
02:45 |
_2cool4me4_ |
iNosy |
02:46 |
MiJyn |
ugh, Now vanessae is doing this :/ |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
;) |
02:46 |
_2cool4me4_ |
sorry about the whois, vanessa, I was trying to hit Landmine |
02:46 |
_2cool4me4_ |
but I missed the right click |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
doesn't bother me at all :-) |
02:46 |
_2cool4me4_ |
never type /ping (channel) |
02:46 |
_2cool4me4_ |
too many replies |
02:47 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I would hate to ping #Ubuntu |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
I don't hide behind proxies, bouncers, TOR, etc., or bother with a handle. :-) |
02:47 |
_2cool4me4_ |
did my nick get unregistered again? |
02:47 |
_2cool4me4_ |
nope |
02:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
PING |
02:48 |
leo_rockway |
pong? |
02:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Reply: too long |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
Ping, Pong, has have or had pung. |
02:49 |
leo_rockway |
I have a handle and I'm connected through ssh |
02:49 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I'm connected through dhcp :P |
02:49 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
is tiredd |
02:51 |
_2cool4me4_ |
good night all |
02:51 |
VanessaE |
nice 2cool |
02:51 |
_2cool4me4_ |
and now for a funny quote |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
"No, not the WED one! Don't EVER push the WED one!" |
02:53 |
MiJyn |
? |
02:53 |
VanessaE |
Daffy Duck, from a Looney Toons episode |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
(I forget the name, DD was a salesman pushing a House of the Future) |
02:54 |
Octupus |
i like daffy |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
(he was mocking Elmer Fudd's lisp) |
02:55 |
MiJyn |
oh |
02:55 |
MiJyn |
lol |
02:59 |
VanessaE |
damn it that's gonna drive me crazy..what was the episode? |
02:59 |
VanessaE |
Design for Leaving? |
03:01 |
VanessaE |
yup, that's the one |
03:20 |
OWNSyouAll |
So does anyone know if you can use rollback_check to see all the blocks changed in a spot? |
03:22 |
VanessaE |
no clue |
03:24 |
khonkhortisan |
…pong |
03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
youtube is too slow to transcribe daffy duck's speech |
03:33 |
Keegann |
hey |
03:33 |
VanessaE |
it IS incredibly slow tonight in facy. |
03:33 |
VanessaE |
fact* |
03:45 |
khonkhortisan |
does worldedit need nodes to be defined for //replace to work? |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
no |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
as long as you use the exact node name and they're within parts of the map that are loaded. |
03:48 |
MiJyn |
wow |
03:48 |
MiJyn |
Keegann is _nice_ here? |
03:48 |
MiJyn |
how? |
03:48 |
khonkhortisan |
I get Invalid search node name |
03:48 |
khonkhortisan |
and it's the same name as what's not defined |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
weird |
03:49 |
VanessaE |
well it *used* to work |
03:49 |
khonkhortisan |
//replace mesecons_crossing:crossing mesecons_extrawires:crossing |
03:49 |
Keegann |
shut it |
03:50 |
Octupus |
key |
03:50 |
Octupus |
pm me |
03:50 |
Octupus |
i need 2 have a chat |
03:50 |
Keegann |
kick MiJy |
03:50 |
khonkhortisan |
? I don't think that's enough for a kick |
03:51 |
MiJyn |
me neither :P |
03:51 |
VanessaE |
Keegann: please don't start |
03:51 |
VanessaE |
MiJyn was only being sarcastic |
03:51 |
Keegann |
Kick him plz |
03:52 |
Keegann |
no he wasnt |
03:52 |
khonkhortisan |
_sarcastic_ remark |
03:52 |
Keegann |
he was with landmine |
03:52 |
VanessaE |
when? |
03:53 |
Keegann |
now |
03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
with landmine doing what? |
03:53 |
Octupus |
keegan read the pm |
03:53 |
Keegann |
against me |
03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
I like that I can dig undefined nodes |
03:54 |
Octupus |
keegan did u read the pm |
03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
if anyone pms me I get it in a separate tab, so it takes me some time to find it |
03:58 |
Octupus |
bye |
03:58 |
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04:00 |
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04:05 |
* MiJyn |
sighs |
04:05 |
Keegann |
serio! |
04:08 |
MiJyn |
? |
04:09 |
Keegann |
bye |
04:28 |
cy1 |
anyone here? |
04:28 |
cy1 |
I reset my map the other day. |
04:29 |
khonkhortisan |
I see you reset to remove jungle holes |
04:29 |
cy1 |
Anyone want to see what new stuff? :3 |
04:29 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: yeah, but |
04:29 |
khonkhortisan |
you have vines and glow-in-the-dark bananas |
04:29 |
cy1 |
I spent all today remaking your 4-helix staircase. |
04:29 |
cy1 |
haha glow-in-the-dark is right |
04:29 |
cy1 |
they also heal like 3.5 hearts |
04:30 |
khonkhortisan |
how do you make it glow? not setting paramtype but setting param? |
04:30 |
cy1 |
I also reset the map because my "epic maps" generation algorithm wasn't working. So now it is. |
04:30 |
cy1 |
I dunno! Have to check the source. |
04:31 |
cy1 |
Ah |
04:31 |
cy1 |
Its drawtype is "torchlike" |
04:31 |
cy1 |
The drawtype for apples is "plantlike" |
04:31 |
khonkhortisan |
Are insulated mesecons made with soluble or insoluble fiber? |
04:31 |
cy1 |
torchlike probably ignores lighting effects (since torches generate their own light |
04:31 |
cy1 |
) |
04:31 |
cy1 |
insulated...? |
04:31 |
khonkhortisan |
but just saying torchlike doesn't create light |
04:31 |
khonkhortisan |
yes, you craft fiber and mesecons to get insulated |
04:32 |
cy1 |
no, but it ignores darkness. |
04:32 |
cy1 |
what good are insulated mesecons? |
04:34 |
khonkhortisan |
you can put rows of wires right next to each other |
04:35 |
khonkhortisan |
for circuit boards |
04:38 |
cy1 |
ooh neat |
04:54 |
cy1 |
I prefer making actual circuit boards <_< |
04:54 |
VanessaE |
too much trouble :-) |
04:55 |
VanessaE |
(and I know, I've made enough of 'em :-) ) |
04:55 |
cy1 |
burnt fingers are a sign that you're doing well! |
04:55 |
khonkhortisan |
a three-way junction needs a special function to tell how much power is on each wire |
04:55 |
khonkhortisan |
battery + wire + a very steady hand = a spark |
04:55 |
cy1 |
by prefer I mean I dislike making actual circuit boards. |
04:55 |
VanessaE |
haha |
04:56 |
khonkhortisan |
So american "traveling" or australian "travelling"? |
04:58 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, you don't sleep much |
04:58 |
VanessaE |
naw, I sleep plenty, I just don't keep a predictable schedule |
04:58 |
khonkhortisan |
Shall I make a pull request for crossed wire? |
04:59 |
VanessaE |
yes |
04:59 |
khonkhortisan |
Request Pulled. |
04:59 |
VanessaE |
what'd you settle on for making them appear? |
04:59 |
khonkhortisan |
um, I didn't yet. It's still crafting two wires, then crafting back. |
05:00 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
05:01 |
khonkhortisan |
But I wrote all three ways in the pull request |
05:01 |
khonkhortisan |
Is that what I think I see? I see a Merge pull request button! |
05:02 |
* VanessaE |
sees one also ;) |
05:02 |
VanessaE |
let's let Jeija take a look first :-) |
05:02 |
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05:02 |
* khonkhortisan |
is scared of the power to change other people's code |
05:02 |
VanessaE |
muahahahah |
05:02 |
VanessaE |
but, |
05:03 |
VanessaE |
he'll be back soon |
05:03 |
TiredCoder |
Zzz |
05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
This looks familiar, I can assign it to someone and to a milestone. |
05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
cy1 I can't connect |
05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
nevermind |
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05:06 |
VanessaE |
HA! |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
speak of the devil and he shall appear |
05:06 |
khonkhortisan |
hello! |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
Jeija, I believe you have some code waiting for you ;) |
05:06 |
* khonkhortisan |
didn't press the wed one |
05:11 |
Jeija |
merged already :) |
05:11 |
VanessaE |
cooool |
05:12 |
khonkhortisan |
it auto-updated my page |
05:12 |
khonkhortisan |
So for my stuff (gates, crossed wire) is it acceptable to merge my own pull requests? |
05:17 |
Jeija |
yep khonkhortisan, for those that I merged yet. Please tell me about new ones |
05:17 |
Jeija |
(new ones = totally new nodes, not gates neither crossings) |
05:18 |
* VanessaE |
tries to think what else mesecons could benefit from.. |
05:19 |
Jeija |
the only thing I can think of is that we're still missing vertical wires |
05:20 |
VanessaE |
yes |
05:22 |
khonkhortisan |
those require exceptions, I think |
05:23 |
khonkhortisan |
okay, so modifications of nodes I created are fine, but notifications for creation of new nodes. |
05:31 |
VanessaE |
oh it just hit me.. |
05:32 |
VanessaE |
how about some kind of object that takes up 2x2 nodes (stacked vertically) and takes up to 4 inputs from one face, turns one of 16 colors depending on the inputs |
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05:33 |
M13 |
hello |
05:33 |
VanessaE |
(RGBI) |
05:33 |
VanessaE |
hi M13 |
05:33 |
M13 |
Hey |
05:33 |
M13 |
have you seen my Fork |
05:33 |
M13 |
I got a C++ coder helping me |
05:34 |
VanessaE |
I know play using vanilla and a bunch of mods |
05:34 |
M13 |
? |
05:34 |
VanessaE |
s/know/only/ |
05:34 |
M13 |
its UbuntuNerd VanessaE |
05:34 |
VanessaE |
I know. |
05:34 |
M13 |
o ok |
05:34 |
VanessaE |
Ubuntunerd aka madchicken13 |
05:34 |
M13 |
yep |
05:35 |
M13 |
i got my own channel for my fork |
05:35 |
M13 |
##minetest-m13 |
05:35 |
M13 |
but... |
05:35 |
M13 |
yea.. so what are you up to? |
05:36 |
VanessaE |
watching cartoons at the moment. |
05:36 |
M13 |
awesome what cartoon? |
05:37 |
VanessaE |
oh just some classic looney toons stuff |
05:38 |
M13 |
o |
05:38 |
M13 |
um can you crosscompile? |
05:39 |
VanessaE |
nope, I don't know how. |
05:39 |
VanessaE |
compiling is easy, cross-compiling I've never dealt with before. |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
morning sfan5 |
05:41 |
sfan5 |
hi |
05:42 |
M13 |
sfan5 can |
05:42 |
M13 |
hey sfan can you cross compile? |
05:42 |
sfan5 |
yep |
05:42 |
sfan5 |
you could've answered that question yourself |
05:43 |
M13 |
can you be a contributor to my fork |
05:43 |
sfan5 |
maybe |
05:43 |
M13 |
can you just cross compile my updates for my fork |
05:43 |
M13 |
i have two versions |
05:43 |
sfan5 |
github repo? |
05:44 |
M13 |
no a site : minetestm13.weebly.com |
05:44 |
M13 |
http://minetestm13.weebly.com |
05:45 |
sfan5 |
well i need a link that does not change but always links to the latest version src |
05:45 |
M13 |
click download and download the tarballs |
05:46 |
M13 |
http://minetestm13.weebly.com/downloads.html |
05:46 |
sfan5 |
i need a link that does not change but always links to the latest version src |
05:46 |
M13 |
o |
05:46 |
M13 |
i cant upload stuff to my github (DONTKNOW HOW) |
05:47 |
M13 |
(Dont Know How)* |
05:47 |
VanessaE |
go read the instructions then :-) |
05:47 |
cy1 |
cross-compiling is something you typically only have to do for Microsoft. Coincidentally it's also a pain in the ass for Microsoft. |
05:48 |
cy1 |
M13: just give us a git repository, on github or wherever. |
05:48 |
M13 |
GitHub is Complicated >:( |
05:48 |
cy1 |
that's all I need. |
05:49 |
VanessaE |
github is easy to use |
05:49 |
M13 |
i can give you the download link |
05:49 |
VanessaE |
just do some reading. |
05:49 |
cy1 |
download != synchronize |
05:49 |
M13 |
http://minetestm13.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/7/13179023/minetest-m130.4.20120907_source.tar.gz |
05:49 |
cy1 |
yeah, but I just want to download your changes, not the whole source. |
05:50 |
cy1 |
I also want a record of what you've done, that I can go forward and backward through, merge and cherry-pick. |
05:50 |
sfan5 |
M13: just use github |
05:50 |
M13 |
can someone help me with it |
05:50 |
M13 |
i made a repo |
05:50 |
cy1 |
gitorious > github, both are really superfluous though... |
05:50 |
M13 |
how do i upload files |
05:51 |
cy1 |
M13: you fork celeron55's repository |
05:51 |
cy1 |
then upload to that |
05:51 |
M13 |
o ok |
05:53 |
cy1 |
make a new repository works too, only difference is github doesn't let you make pull requests then. But you can make a pull request on IRC |
05:53 |
M13 |
can you tell me how to cross compile? |
05:53 |
cy1 |
hey celeron55 plz pull my changes thx |
05:53 |
cy1 |
M13: For what OS, on what OS? |
05:53 |
M13 |
Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit |
05:54 |
M13 |
wait |
05:54 |
M13 |
why is it so hard to download the src and compile it? |
05:55 |
VanessaE |
it isn't. |
05:55 |
cy1 |
I already have the source. |
05:55 |
cy1 |
Just not your changes. |
05:55 |
M13 |
this source is modified and works : http://minetestm13.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/7/13179023/minetest-m130.4.20120907_source.tar.gz |
05:56 |
cy1 |
so you say |
05:56 |
M13 |
it is |
05:57 |
M13 |
OldCoder did it |
05:57 |
M13 |
hes my C++ person |
05:58 |
M13 |
ill try gitorious |
05:58 |
cy1 |
it's the same as github really |
05:58 |
cy1 |
tell OldCoder to do it though, it's his changes so it's his job. |
05:58 |
cy1 |
alternatively just talk about your changes here. if we are intrigued your source may be downloaded. |
05:59 |
M13 |
he cant cross compile , not many can |
06:00 |
khonkhortisan |
I worldedited a 81x81x81 4-iteration 160,000 cobblestone menger sponge and it skipped two stones |
06:00 |
cy1 |
Four stones. |
06:00 |
cy1 |
I got 2 of them. |
06:00 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: that's insane. |
06:00 |
M13 |
ok what do i need to install to cross compile? |
06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
not as insane as making it by hand (only got about halfway) |
06:01 |
cy1 |
M13: To cross compile on Windows, first you hit your friend over the head with a chair, then you install Linux really quick on his computer, then just give him the binaries :x |
06:01 |
M13 |
I have Linux |
06:01 |
M13 |
I need to Compile to Windpws |
06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
and rename firefox.desktop to IE.desktop and change the icon |
06:01 |
M13 |
Windows* |
06:01 |
cy1 |
yes, to compile to Windows, the easiest method involves blunt head trauma theft and vandalism |
06:02 |
M13 |
well it looks like im booting the old Windows XP Black edition |
06:02 |
M13 |
Damn |
06:02 |
khonkhortisan |
is it just me or does the fog not cover up the blocks disappearing when I move? |
06:03 |
khonkhortisan |
oh yeah, I was going to fill it with water |
06:03 |
cy1 |
but if you want the hard way, just get the mingw32 cross compiler which is available in Linux, then use it to compile your base libraries like irrlicht, openGL, openAL, etc. Then use it to compile minetest. |
06:03 |
M13 |
thats it |
06:03 |
cy1 |
oh, yeah or just get a hacked copy of windowz |
06:03 |
cy1 |
you didn't hear it from me though! |
06:04 |
M13 |
i have Windows XP Black Duh |
06:04 |
M13 |
its Free |
06:04 |
khonkhortisan |
//replace air default:water_flowing didn't work |
06:04 |
khonkhortisan |
how do I replace air? |
06:05 |
cy1 |
"free" heh |
06:05 |
M13 |
yea bit torrent |
06:05 |
khonkhortisan |
just like minecraft free |
06:05 |
VanessaE |
no version of windows is free |
06:05 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: that'd just flow all out to nothing... |
06:05 |
VanessaE |
pirated != free |
06:05 |
M13 |
??? |
06:05 |
khonkhortisan |
but how do I tell it to turn air into something? |
06:06 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: try a comma :-) |
06:06 |
VanessaE |
//replace air,whatever |
06:06 |
cy1 |
air is the name of air, I dunno... |
06:06 |
M13 |
What are the command to use this? |
06:06 |
khonkhortisan |
it doesn't like commas |
06:06 |
cy1 |
if you mess up my world though I'll rollback a backup >:( |
06:06 |
cy1 |
try /help /replace |
06:06 |
khonkhortisan |
I have my pos limits set |
06:06 |
M13 |
ill ask someone to compile it |
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06:07 |
VanessaE |
odd |
06:07 |
VanessaE |
I thought it was just changed to need the comma |
06:07 |
khonkhortisan |
//replace <search node> <replace node> |
06:07 |
khonkhortisan |
maybe this is an old one |
06:07 |
cy1 |
I installed the latest worldedit like yesterday... |
06:07 |
cy1 |
from git :p |
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06:08 |
VanessaE |
ok maybe it's a space then :-) |
06:08 |
VanessaE |
anyway, time to hit the sheets. good night. |
06:08 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't replace cobblestone either? |
06:10 |
khonkhortisan |
oh, default:cobble |
06:10 |
khonkhortisan |
now, what's air? |
06:12 |
khonkhortisan |
oh, it changes "air" to "default:air" which doesn't exist |
06:12 |
khonkhortisan |
I think |
06:12 |
sfan5 |
<khonkhortisan> //replace <search node> <replace node> |
06:12 |
sfan5 |
<khonkhortisan> maybe this is an old one |
06:12 |
sfan5 |
no its the latest version |
06:13 |
khonkhortisan |
then can you tell me how to replace air? |
06:13 |
khonkhortisan |
/set air //replace air default:cobble it doesn't work |
06:13 |
sfan5 |
lemme test |
06:15 |
sfan5 |
you're right |
06:15 |
sfan5 |
it doesn't work |
06:16 |
cy1 |
air must not be search-able |
06:16 |
khonkhortisan |
worldedit.set takes the parameters as they are, while worldedit.replace adds "default:" if there's no ":" |
06:16 |
cy1 |
maybe a special command to replace air... |
06:16 |
cy1 |
oh damn |
06:16 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: that'd do it |
06:16 |
khonkhortisan |
it would work if it didn't change "air" to "default:air" before replacing |
06:17 |
khonkhortisan |
should be 'if searchnode:find(":") == nil and not searchnode == "air" then' on line 50 |
06:18 |
khonkhortisan |
or searchnode ~= "air" actually |
06:18 |
cy1 |
I'll change it really quick. |
06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah, that fixed it. |
06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
Now, do aliases have the same problem? |
06:19 |
cy1 |
fixed it? |
06:19 |
cy1 |
I haven't changed it yet :> |
06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah "if searchnode:find(":") == nil and searchnode ~= "air"then" |
06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
I tried it myself |
06:20 |
cy1 |
oh, 'k |
06:23 |
sfan5 |
this is my fix: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/ce9ce35a20c9280813161b6783aac39c15ed1f70 |
06:24 |
sfan5 |
if the node exists, proceed | if not, prefix "default:" |
06:24 |
khonkhortisan |
huh. That's probably more likely to work for aliases |
06:24 |
cy1 |
sfan5: awesome, will pull that. |
06:24 |
khonkhortisan |
But then it still might not be registered, and won't throw an error |
06:25 |
khonkhortisan |
you beat me to getting it on github |
06:26 |
khonkhortisan |
sfan5, that doesn't seem to work |
06:27 |
sfan5 |
it works |
06:27 |
sfan5 |
i tested it |
06:27 |
khonkhortisan |
oh, oops forgot the nil |
06:29 |
khonkhortisan |
now what's with this function? With no changes, //replace cobble air works just fine, and //replace air cobble doesn't. |
06:29 |
khonkhortisan |
it shouldn't treat searchnode and replacenode differently. |
06:29 |
khonkhortisan |
They should both have the same checks |
06:31 |
sfan5 |
lol http://octodex.github.com/minion/ |
06:35 |
sfan5 |
http://octodex.github.com/nyantocat/ |
06:35 |
sfan5 |
khonkhortisan: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/a429e104a24b4d218733056dff4d681ec76036da |
06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
much better |
06:38 |
cy1 |
CPU at 101% eh |
06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
I //copy y 0'd the whole cube |
06:38 |
cy1 |
not //replace air default:water_flowing ? |
06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
probably every node moved triggers water or something crazy like that |
06:38 |
cy1 |
every node placed gets water moving again. |
06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
No, then it would go out the side |
06:39 |
cy1 |
yeah, but the side water would run out |
06:39 |
khonkhortisan |
it looks like columns of rain in the center of the side of it |
06:39 |
cy1 |
<3 |
06:39 |
khonkhortisan |
531441 nodes copied |
06:40 |
cy1 |
ok should settle down in a few minutes then |
06:40 |
cy1 |
unless the server overheats again... |
06:41 |
khonkhortisan |
sfan5, your second if needs another indent :P |
06:42 |
sfan5 |
i know |
06:43 |
khonkhortisan |
want to see the water sponge? |
06:45 |
khonkhortisan |
swimming through water should update it |
06:49 |
khonkhortisan |
I want to move the water source down one node so it's inside the cube, but the server isn't responding yet |
06:49 |
khonkhortisan |
I wonder if a single player can run two overlapping worldedit commands at the same time |
06:51 |
thexyz |
http://pastebin.com/FAv70Kuz |
06:52 |
khonkhortisan |
sorry cy1 I think it's at a crawl |
06:53 |
thexyz |
> NekoGloopceleron55 and/or thexyz: does set_width just not work? |
06:53 |
thexyz |
of course it doesn't work otherwise how could it be merged to master branch? |
06:55 |
khonkhortisan |
did we kill your computer? |
06:57 |
khonkhortisan |
I think I ran a function over another function |
06:58 |
khonkhortisan |
what if you set_height then set_width? |
07:00 |
khonkhortisan |
:( |
07:05 |
khonkhortisan |
worldedit's functions should be moved to globalstep |
07:07 |
celeron55 |
khonkhortisan: add debug output near inventorymanager.cpp:794 and see what happens |
07:09 |
khonkhortisan |
thexyz, what c55 said. |
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khonkhortisan |
did it break? I'm sorry |
07:13 |
thexyz |
? |
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thexyz |
nope, it works just like it should |
07:15 |
thexyz |
i guess neko just cannot into it |
07:15 |
khonkhortisan |
no cy's server, worldediting a little too much |
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sfan5 |
guess what i'm working on: http://i.imgur.com/XSp5D.png |
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khonkhortisan |
armor |
07:55 |
khonkhortisan |
and displaying the player model |
07:56 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
08:04 |
iqualfragile |
sounds great |
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iqualfragile |
but i think hunger would be more important |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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iqualfragile |
hi PilzAdam |
08:36 |
PilzAdam |
Tag auch |
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Calinou |
hmm, iqualfragile is in #ubuntu :D |
09:04 |
iqualfragile |
jup |
09:05 |
Calinou |
btw: I can run 64 bit guest OSes with virtualbox just fine... |
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iqualfragile |
i cant and thats bad |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, youre here? |
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jordach |
morning all |
10:02 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
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jordach |
VanessaE, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41523#p41523 THANKS. |
10:15 |
* Calinou |
finally installed xubuntu on his laptop |
10:15 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, ^ |
10:15 |
Calinou |
:D |
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* jordach |
high fives Calinou! |
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Calinou |
it's pretty nice and doesn't beep when booting it/shutdown :P |
10:39 |
Calinou |
installing minetest |
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iqualfragile |
calinou: i personaly think xfce is ugly |
10:50 |
iqualfragile |
try lxde |
10:53 |
iqualfragile |
realbadangel: can you give me your current version of tubes so i can test the network-performance? |
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Calinou |
xfce is awesome. |
11:05 |
Calinou |
it's not ugly; the desktop effects are quite nice too |
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FreeFull |
You can make xfce4 as pretty as you want |
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Keegann |
hello |
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iqualfragile |
hi keegann |
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Keegann |
last bight was long |
11:24 |
Keegann |
night |
11:24 |
PilzAdam |
every night has the same lenght ;-) |
11:26 |
iqualfragile |
no, it depends on the seasion |
11:26 |
jordach |
:) |
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iqualfragile |
69 Personen im Raum |
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Keegann |
whatc been up to |
11:38 |
iqualfragile |
trülö |
11:40 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/244 |
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Keegann |
? |
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Keegann |
hello |
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13:45 |
celeron55 |
http://c55.me/random/2012-09/screenshot_2786899803.png |
13:45 |
OldCoder |
Viewing |
13:45 |
OldCoder |
What is it? |
13:45 |
OldCoder |
Rainbow steps |
13:46 |
celeron55 |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef |
13:46 |
OldCoder |
Viewing |
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OldCoder |
k |
13:47 |
OldCoder |
Lua API change |
13:47 |
Keegann |
ike it |
13:47 |
Keegann |
like |
13:47 |
celeron55 |
eh |
13:47 |
celeron55 |
it's an experimental feature |
13:48 |
celeron55 |
i've already spent a full workday on it |
13:48 |
celeron55 |
http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-4a11323-meta_set_nodedef-win32.zip |
13:49 |
Keegann |
is there a way to make nyan cat yet? |
13:51 |
OldCoder |
<celeron55> i've already spent a full workday on it |
13:51 |
OldCoder |
Happens, doesn't it :-) |
13:52 |
OldCoder |
The code needs you; you can't stop |
13:53 |
celeron55 |
sure i can |
13:53 |
celeron55 |
from now on you'll continue that branch, ok? |
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Jordach |
utube comenters about minetest dichotomous: http://i.imgur.com/o2vyq.png |
13:57 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, Addressing me or Keegann? I hope to work on branches but there are situations elsewhere that have most of my projects stopped cold |
13:57 |
celeron55 |
my guess is nobody will never, ever make me even 10th of the favor i've made to other people by making this thing |
13:57 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, You are entirely correct |
13:57 |
Jordach |
hmm? |
13:57 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, try 1% |
13:58 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, However: It will live on |
13:58 |
OldCoder |
MC will not |
13:58 |
Jordach |
because publie repo |
13:58 |
Jordach |
s/publie/public |
13:58 |
OldCoder |
It is FOSS. Fun FOSS. And interesting. |
13:58 |
celeron55 |
no |
13:59 |
OldCoder |
No? |
13:59 |
celeron55 |
it's FOSS that *works* |
13:59 |
celeron55 |
8D |
13:59 |
OldCoder |
Ah. Indeed. |
13:59 |
Jordach |
trololololol |
13:59 |
* OldCoder |
does not know that meme though he has heard of it |
13:59 |
Keegann |
is there a way to have different color chat in game |
14:00 |
celeron55 |
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Open_Source |
14:00 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, How does it feel; overtaking a commercial project? If you read ESR you know it will happen. Even with kid developers. And what does the ED article say? |
14:00 |
celeron55 |
ESR is what? |
14:01 |
celeron55 |
also, what article? |
14:01 |
OldCoder |
Eric S. Raymond. Review "Cathedral and the Bazaar". MC is Cathedral. You are Bazaar and therefore will overtake. And the E.D. Open Source article you just linked. |
14:02 |
OldCoder |
I have a friend who knows him. Maybe we can get him to comment in time on the two projects. |
14:03 |
celeron55 |
well dunno |
14:03 |
OldCoder |
k |
14:03 |
celeron55 |
about the overtaking thing |
14:03 |
Jordach |
Keegann - change the colour of fontlucida |
14:03 |
OldCoder |
It is inevitable in time |
14:03 |
Jordach |
in /textures/pack |
14:04 |
celeron55 |
if there was somebody in addition to me working on the engine code, then i would guess what ESR says, but as it currently is, i wouldn't be so sure |
14:04 |
Jordach |
celeron55, no. it will. |
14:04 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, If my situation changes I may be able to contribute. You may pick up other developers in time as well. |
14:04 |
celeron55 |
there are many old FOSS games that are roughly 100% forgotten |
14:05 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, I revive them. |
14:05 |
OldCoder |
I have toys from the 1990s :D |
14:05 |
OldCoder |
Eventually my own distro will be the go-to place for games |
14:06 |
* OldCoder |
does not like to see useful projects disappear |
14:06 |
Jordach |
this thing is 2 years old and has a huge followingh |
14:06 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
14:07 |
OldCoder |
It needs more active developers but they will appear over time |
14:07 |
OldCoder |
For one thing, some of these kids may grow into the role |
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14:11 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - im almost there to start c++ ing |
14:11 |
Jordach |
(in fact i have my own little fork) |
14:11 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, k |
14:11 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
14:11 |
OldCoder |
Good practice |
14:12 |
Jordach |
c55, why did we stop using sectors? |
14:12 |
celeron55 |
ehm, wat? |
14:12 |
Jordach |
sectors map format |
14:13 |
celeron55 |
it rapes the filesystem |
14:13 |
Jordach |
ahh. |
14:14 |
Jordach |
we need a mapgen more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NszGurDUlHc&list=UU3XJRyvLD7rvsVFCFS1IX0A&index=5&feature=plcp |
14:14 |
celeron55 |
i call notch a magician because of that |
14:15 |
celeron55 |
the speed he made minecraft to generate that terrain is just nuts |
14:15 |
Jordach |
i think some algorithm is needed - 0.2 is damn fast |
14:16 |
celeron55 |
"0.2 is damn fast"? |
14:16 |
Jordach |
minetest wise on 64 bit |
14:17 |
Jordach |
i enjoy the maps from that age - and i want jungles again |
14:17 |
OldCoder |
Jungles sound fun |
14:18 |
Jordach |
we used to have them |
14:18 |
Jordach |
see stable-0.2 |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
y |
14:18 |
Jordach |
or 0.3.1 |
14:18 |
Jordach |
they can be foubd\ |
14:18 |
celeron55 |
you can't probably believe how many hours i have watched that and some other videos, trying to figure out what the fuck minecraft is doing |
14:18 |
Jordach |
found |
14:18 |
Jordach |
celeron55 - but the game and check the source |
14:18 |
OldCoder |
Quite a bit of time I assume |
14:18 |
Jordach |
s/but/buy |
14:19 |
celeron55 |
i do own a copy of minecraft, but the source isn't really available anywhere except as a complex bunch of bat scripts for windows and whatever |
14:20 |
celeron55 |
to extract it |
14:20 |
OldCoder |
y |
14:20 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, what's the fundamental issue in this case? Generating a jungle rapidly? Excuse the naive question |
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14:21 |
OldCoder |
Would a fractal algorithm be relevant? |
14:21 |
celeron55 |
OldCoder: i'm not talking about jungles |
14:21 |
OldCoder |
k |
14:21 |
* OldCoder |
will back out then |
14:21 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, MT doesn't need to clone MC |
14:21 |
celeron55 |
i was talking about the shape of the minecraft terrain |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
y |
14:22 |
Jordach |
hmm - v3s16 seems to be the problem with co-ordinates and mapsize |
14:22 |
celeron55 |
minecraft alpha's terrain generator is quite unarguably... ehm... fucking awesome, so to say |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
14:22 |
Jordach |
yes |
14:22 |
OldCoder |
I assume the available FOSS terrain generators have been reviewed |
14:23 |
celeron55 |
eh, as if there was any |
14:23 |
Jordach |
i'd love to see a hybrid 0.2/chunky mapgen engine |
14:23 |
OldCoder |
I've seen a few but I can't speak to their quality |
14:24 |
celeron55 |
there'd need to be a hugely optimized way of genering boatloads of complicated 3D noise |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
y |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing some articles now |
14:24 |
Jordach |
where is the variable v3s16 first registed |
14:24 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, Fractals |
14:25 |
OldCoder |
http://vterrain.org/Elevation/Artificial/ |
14:25 |
Jordach |
because if that became a long signed thing - 18 million sized maps would work |
14:25 |
OldCoder |
This page looks interesting too |
14:25 |
celeron55 |
Jordach: before s16 becomes a problem, float percision becomes a problem |
14:25 |
celeron55 |
Jordach: you'd need to find a way for it first |
14:26 |
OldCoder |
One writer suggests starting with a genuine terrain map and then simulating erosion. |
14:26 |
celeron55 |
LOL |
14:26 |
Jordach |
the current co-ords only display 0.4, -10, 997.5 so i dont see why we need stuff like 4.456743271296, -1984.25625654 , 9784.5754733 |
14:26 |
OldCoder |
rather, a genuine elevation map |
14:26 |
celeron55 |
that is just *incredibly* slow |
14:27 |
OldCoder |
Fractals then? |
14:27 |
celeron55 |
fractals, as in perlin noise? |
14:27 |
OldCoder |
I don't know the term; it's been 20 years. Reviewing. |
14:28 |
Jordach |
we have implemented perlin noise |
14:28 |
OldCoder |
No; not Perlin noise. What I had in mind would work better for plants. I'll need to read further. |
14:28 |
OldCoder |
There must be a fast algorithm |
14:28 |
celeron55 |
minetest uses perlin noise for most things; the current mapgen uses mostly 2D noise, a previous one uses 3D noise, and the one before that was the same as now, and the one before that used 2D noise in a very simple way |
14:28 |
celeron55 |
that is why i asked for a fast 3D noise algorithm |
14:28 |
OldCoder |
3D noise. Yes. |
14:28 |
OldCoder |
But does it resemble natural shapes? |
14:29 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
14:29 |
celeron55 |
the 3D noise implementation in minetest is quite suboptimal to my knowledge |
14:29 |
Kray |
but the real question is |
14:29 |
Kray |
when we get that nice realistic liquid back? 8) |
14:29 |
celeron55 |
there are many "real questions" 8) |
14:29 |
Kray |
(ok, never) |
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14:30 |
celeron55 |
Kray: at the exact moment when somebody implements it |
14:30 |
Kray |
it was interesting system |
14:30 |
celeron55 |
(in a way that doesn't eat all resources) |
14:30 |
Kray |
celeron55: well, would it even matter |
14:30 |
Kray |
it is possible to implement to be so fast it is usable? |
14:31 |
celeron55 |
there is finiteliquid or something like that for minecraft, which, to my knowledge, is usable - but it has went through huge optimization efforts |
14:31 |
OldCoder |
Kray, I am sure it is. But there is no magic in the world. Work will be needed. Can you code yet? |
14:32 |
Kray |
I don't know anything about minetest's codebase nor am i interested |
14:32 |
Keegann |
there should be a mod that a book have the debug in it |
14:33 |
Kray |
and I'm not capable to implement any algorithms like that |
14:33 |
OldCoder |
Kray, you will be in time |
14:33 |
Kray |
nope |
14:34 |
OldCoder |
Kray, If you are not interested so be it |
14:34 |
Kray |
I'm not interested |
14:34 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
14:34 |
OldCoder |
Then why ask? |
14:34 |
celeron55 |
minetest's codebase tends to be too complicated for mortals |
14:34 |
Kray |
8D |
14:34 |
celeron55 |
either people are afraid of it, or they just can't get into it |
14:35 |
celeron55 |
it has a good bunch of hairy wrapper tricks that were implemented at the 0.3 -> 0.4 transition, for example 8) |
14:35 |
OldCoder |
Code is code |
14:35 |
OldCoder |
It can be mastered |
14:35 |
OldCoder |
Plus it will simplify over time |
14:36 |
OldCoder |
Hairy can have haircut |
14:36 |
celeron55 |
well yeah, you just need to cut the hairs in the middle and still be able to connect them correctly, because both ends are important 8) |
14:36 |
OldCoder |
Yes. The regrettable part is that some old worlds will be lost. |
14:37 |
celeron55 |
nah, backwards-compatibility is easy |
14:37 |
Keegann |
there should be a kick command in the game |
14:37 |
celeron55 |
you just need to be careful |
14:37 |
Kray |
yesterday I tried some pre-release version from 2010 |
14:37 |
Kray |
dat nostalgia |
14:37 |
celeron55 |
the thing that is not easy is getting enough of the system to fit into your brain to redesign a middle part of it, and have the time that doing it requires |
14:38 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
14:38 |
Keegann |
*__* |
14:38 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
14:38 |
OldCoder |
That is an odd emoticon |
14:38 |
Keegann |
i just made it up |
14:38 |
celeron55 |
i mean, there are 82k lines of code |
14:39 |
celeron55 |
8) |
14:39 |
OldCoder |
82,000 for a start |
14:39 |
OldCoder |
100,000 is coming then. |
14:39 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
14:39 |
Kray |
durr, I actually remember one world we played with before you implemented saving |
14:39 |
celeron55 |
i remember it too; there was a castle made by rndprogy |
14:39 |
celeron55 |
and a trollface drawn on the ground |
14:40 |
OldCoder |
Artwork. Should live on. |
14:40 |
OldCoder |
Performance Art at that. |
14:40 |
Kray |
oh, that's even earlier |
14:40 |
Kray |
or hmm |
14:40 |
Kray |
yeah, definitely earlier |
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14:40 |
celeron55 |
i think there were only 1 or 2 worlds that didn't have saving |
14:40 |
Kray |
but wasn't it Gwaur's castle? |
14:40 |
celeron55 |
that world had saving |
14:40 |
celeron55 |
i have it 8) |
14:40 |
Kray |
oh |
14:41 |
celeron55 |
or hmm... did it |
14:42 |
celeron55 |
let me find some screenshots... |
14:43 |
Kray |
oh wow http://kray.dy.fi/b/invavuori.jpg |
14:43 |
Kray |
first time playing with time-night cycle |
14:44 |
Kray |
err, *day-night |
14:44 |
celeron55 |
this was a world with no saving: http://c55.me/random/2010-10/old/kasihymi%C3%B6.png |
14:44 |
celeron55 |
and this: http://c55.me/random/2010-10/old/verkkopelia.png |
14:44 |
celeron55 |
actually, that is the same world i think... |
14:45 |
Kray |
I remember one world which we also had without saving |
14:45 |
celeron55 |
was there large buildings on water? and some walkways? |
14:45 |
celeron55 |
i tried to find a screenshot but couldn't |
14:46 |
Kray |
large buildings and walkways high in air |
14:46 |
celeron55 |
i mean, there is this http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/images/map_thumbnails/devserver_2010-11-01_screenshot_small.png |
14:46 |
Kray |
I personally remember building a monolithic tower and am relatively sure I have a screenshow somewhere |
14:46 |
celeron55 |
but it was before that |
14:46 |
Kray |
*screenshot |
14:47 |
celeron55 |
gwaur's castle was a huge dull looking square with high walls and nothing inside, i think |
14:47 |
celeron55 |
in that screenshot it is to the right and isn't that huge or dull |
14:48 |
celeron55 |
and has some stuff inside |
14:49 |
Kray |
no, that's still the same one |
14:49 |
Kray |
we had some later world |
14:50 |
Kray |
this http://kray.dy.fi/b/pilvenpiirtaja.jpg |
14:50 |
celeron55 |
i think that is what i was talking about |
14:51 |
Kray |
well, I was talking about that too |
14:51 |
celeron55 |
i don't think i have it anywhere |
14:51 |
Kray |
yeah |
14:51 |
Kray |
I'm fairly certain that was right before saving was implemented |
14:52 |
VanessaE |
good morning (etc.) all |
14:52 |
celeron55 |
i wonder what this is http://c55.me/random/2012-09/map-2010-11-1.tar.gz |
14:53 |
celeron55 |
it is the earliest i have |
14:53 |
Keegann |
hey VanessaE |
14:53 |
celeron55 |
i wonder if sectors2sqlite can make any sense of that...... |
14:55 |
VanessaE |
heh, something of that format I guess isn't recognized by 0.4.3 :-) |
14:56 |
celeron55 |
oh god |
14:56 |
celeron55 |
this loads just fine as-is, except that water is somewhat screwed |
14:56 |
celeron55 |
it dries out after generating because water is loaded as flowing water |
14:57 |
VanessaE |
guess I don't know what I'm doing where old maps are concerned :D |
14:57 |
VanessaE |
hi Keegann |
14:58 |
celeron55 |
i mean... what the fuck :D |
14:58 |
celeron55 |
minetest was less than 1 month old when this was saved |
14:59 |
celeron55 |
it's now 23 months old and it still loads almost completely, and with no errors |
14:59 |
thexyz |
am i the only one who has those range glitches? http://i.imgur.com/GoqKu.png |
14:59 |
* Jordach |
looks into map, decides to fix it up |
15:00 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: no |
15:00 |
Calinou |
happens to me sometimes |
15:00 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: you mean like that stone tower in the distance being half gone? no. |
15:00 |
Calinou |
the floating leaves don't really look good :P |
15:00 |
Jordach |
thexyz - thats the auto drawing mechanism...i think |
15:01 |
Jordach |
oh god, ive been with minetest for almost a year now |
15:01 |
celeron55 |
Kray: http://c55.me/random/2012-09/invaline-2012-09-08_18-00-47.png |
15:02 |
celeron55 |
anyway, that is the first world ever that had saving |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
A year. A huge amount of time. Wait a few decades :p <Jordach> oh god, ive been with minetest for almost a year now |
15:03 |
Kray |
lol, a newcomer |
15:03 |
Kray |
8) |
15:03 |
celeron55 |
a year is 52% of minetest's age |
15:03 |
Kray |
celeron55: oh dog |
15:03 |
Calinou |
nice torch field :P |
15:04 |
Kray |
celeron55 did one mistake during development |
15:04 |
Kray |
he used the same id for torches that a white light-emitting block had |
15:04 |
OldCoder |
It is all relative, yes |
15:04 |
Jordach |
actually - i like that ID |
15:04 |
Kray |
that somewhat breaks all of very early worlds |
15:04 |
celeron55 |
Kray: also, i use the same id for the static blocky water and actually flowing water |
15:04 |
celeron55 |
which sucks too |
15:04 |
Kray |
8( |
15:05 |
celeron55 |
i have the old worlds converted to new ones with suitable mods in them to make them work like the old ones though 8) |
15:05 |
Kray |
hey, could you just have something that checks if the map format is old enough |
15:05 |
Kray |
oh |
15:05 |
Jordach |
Kray - i like that |
15:07 |
Jordach |
c55, VanessaE, Calinou, do we need more moderators? |
15:08 |
Keegann |
no |
15:08 |
Jordach |
i just fear the day when minetest goes viral |
15:08 |
Jordach |
supreme influx of users. |
15:09 |
VanessaE |
no |
15:09 |
Keegann |
theres five of them |
15:09 |
Calinou |
Jordach, no |
15:09 |
Calinou |
6 is enough |
15:09 |
Jordach |
lets scale current user base to 600000 users |
15:09 |
Jordach |
then see how 6 can handle |
15:09 |
Keegann |
its fine half of them are dead accounts |
15:10 |
Jordach |
we DONT know when MT goes viral |
15:11 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: when you get some time, I've got an odd bug for you. Run 3dforniture on an old map and observe the trees. :-) |
15:11 |
Jordach |
why |
15:11 |
Calinou |
Keegann, more like 95% |
15:12 |
Keegann |
ok |
15:12 |
Calinou |
don't forget the 90-9-1 rule: 90% of lurkers, 9% of semi active people, 1% of active people |
15:13 |
Calinou |
2610,9 lurkers, 261,09 semi active users (few posts), 29,01 active users |
15:13 |
Calinou |
yes, I can cut people |
15:13 |
Calinou |
8) |
15:13 |
Jordach |
me Calinou, VanessaE, Keegann, m16 and others class as active |
15:13 |
Keegann |
yea |
15:13 |
Jordach |
we also need a forum for off topic |
15:13 |
Calinou |
please no OT forum |
15:13 |
Jordach |
or - wibbles |
15:13 |
Calinou |
there's a fuckton of moderation to do for them, it causes pointless flamewars |
15:13 |
Calinou |
and this is the minetest forum |
15:14 |
Jordach |
wibbles is a place for topics to burn - and the users in it too |
15:14 |
Jordach |
however no moderation happens |
15:21 |
thexyz |
Jordach: here's your offtopic forum: http://www.4chan.org/ |
15:21 |
Jordach |
ha! |
15:22 |
Calinou |
true story ^ |
15:26 |
VanessaE |
haha |
15:30 |
OldCoder |
Is the active discussion about forums or IRC or both? |
15:33 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, can you test making a better mapgen using my fork of minetest |
15:33 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, maybe; PM |
16:05 |
khonkhortisan |
replacing a node inside minetest.register_on_punchnode when the node you're replacing digs nearly instantly causes the replacement node to also be dug nearly instantly. |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
isn't |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
isn't there an after-dig callback also? |
16:07 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah, but then I couldn't tell if they were trying to remove the wire or cross the wire |
16:07 |
VanessaE |
insert a check there to see if the node disappeared and replace it if necessary |
16:07 |
VanessaE |
set a global flag during the punch node action that shows if the user was trying to add a cross wire |
16:08 |
VanessaE |
then read from that flag in the after-dig call and check if the node got removed |
16:08 |
VanessaE |
it's a hacky way to solve the problem though - the user would be forced to dig the wire with something other than another wire to prevent unwanted crossings |
16:09 |
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16:09 |
Keegann |
so u guys had a disscussion about landmine |
16:09 |
VanessaE |
you know, it just occurred to me, |
16:10 |
VanessaE |
you can auto-detect the need for a crossed wire by checking for only 4 wires present - three in a line in any direction, and one adjacent |
16:10 |
VanessaE |
only place the crossing if the 5th position is a mesecon device of any kind |
16:10 |
VanessaE |
using the rules returned by that node to determine if a connection is possible |
16:11 |
VanessaE |
or just assume those 4 wires indicate a crossing whether there's a mesecon device there or not |
16:11 |
khonkhortisan |
okay, so I have a switch, then a line of insulated wire, then a lamp. The insulated wire will cross and turn on the lamp. |
16:11 |
VanessaE |
do a substring match on the 5th position - if it starts with "mesecons:" then query its connection rules |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
ok, do a substring match and rules check on both of the adjacent positions :-) |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
but, |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
that doesn't allow for devices to just sit next to a wire |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
so having at least 4 wires (including more crossings) in the vicinity would have to be the case, |
16:13 |
khonkhortisan |
and we don't want to do the same things slabs did, where placing one on another combines them. |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
it would preserve your test world and provide a predictable way to auto-place it |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
right |
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16:15 |
VanessaE |
make it so it checks for 4 wires, and also so that you can also manually place a crossing |
16:16 |
VanessaE |
that way if the check fails in the case of a length of wire with devices on either side of it |
16:16 |
VanessaE |
you can still connect them together |
16:16 |
Jordach |
me and old-code are going to work on my fork - by adding a improved mapgen and a highly simple mod api |
16:17 |
thexyz |
api in what language? |
16:17 |
Jordach |
(i wont highlight him as he is alseep) |
16:17 |
Jordach |
custom json like api |
16:17 |
VanessaE |
BASIC!!!! |
16:17 |
VanessaE |
:) |
16:17 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - almost there |
16:17 |
khonkhortisan |
So if it automatically creates them and recipes create them can I pick them back up, thereby getting crossed wire without using a recipe, or can I not pick them back up, thereby losing what I put into the recipe? |
16:18 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: what's the recipe now? |
16:18 |
Jordach |
VanessaE. thexyz, http://pastebin.com/xXtHEt3x |
16:18 |
khonkhortisan |
two insulated -> crossed -> two insulated |
16:18 |
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16:18 |
thexyz |
Jordach: what is that? |
16:18 |
khonkhortisan |
if it was automatic instead of a recipe it would only be one insulated |
16:18 |
Jordach |
a custom design |
16:18 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: ok, so if you dig the crossing, give back two wires. |
16:18 |
MilanFIN |
lol I was banned from here |
16:18 |
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16:18 |
M13 |
OldCoder are you her |
16:19 |
Jordach |
no hes not |
16:19 |
khonkhortisan |
So I place five wires in a plus, dig the crossed part, craft it, and end up with six wires. |
16:19 |
thexyz |
Jordach: so is it capable only of defining new nodes? |
16:19 |
Jordach |
and other things too once we get there |
16:19 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: make the auto-creation of the crossing always check for an extra wire in your inventory then |
16:19 |
VanessaE |
if there isn't one, don't create the crossing |
16:19 |
khonkhortisan |
okay that makes more sense |
16:20 |
VanessaE |
if there is, create the crossing and deduct it from the inventory |
16:20 |
khonkhortisan |
What if the center isn't the last node placed? What if the side wire was last placed? How will I tell the center node who to take the wire from? |
16:21 |
M13 |
ok Im a OP on my IRC Channel but i cant get on it? How do I (New at IRC |
16:21 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: in my pipes, I use a limited recursive search around the node being placed/dug |
16:21 |
khonkhortisan |
then how'd you become an op on it? |
16:21 |
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16:22 |
khonkhortisan |
Can a node call a function in another node? |
16:22 |
VanessaE |
so basically I check the node being dug/placed, and I check the 6 nodes surrounding it |
16:22 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
16:22 |
VanessaE |
in your case, you'd check the position being dug and the four orthogonally adjacent spots |
16:23 |
khonkhortisan |
it could cross for any distance |
16:23 |
VanessaE |
oh sure, but if you're not digging the crossing itself or one of the adjacent wires, there's no reason to re-evaluate it at all |
16:23 |
Keegann |
hey M13 |
16:24 |
khonkhortisan |
like if you had many many rows of insulated wire and made a crossed one go through them all |
16:24 |
VanessaE |
that's a case where the player's going to have to manually place the crossing where it is needed |
16:25 |
Keegann |
M13 are u sure you are connecting tothe right channel |
16:25 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, khonkhortisan, herad to #minetest-mods |
16:25 |
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16:25 |
Jordach |
head to |
16:25 |
VanessaE |
no :) |
16:25 |
khonkhortisan |
we're fine right here |
16:26 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
16:26 |
Keegann |
M13? |
16:27 |
VanessaE |
what about using the before-construct callback? On a rick click, that function is executed before the node is actually added. couldn't you run your cross/uncross code then? |
16:27 |
VanessaE |
s/rick click/right click/ |
16:28 |
VanessaE |
then it would avoid the dig action entirely |
16:28 |
khonkhortisan |
Should I directly edit the insulated wire file, or redefine it in extrawires? |
16:28 |
VanessaE |
and you could drop two insulated wires on dig, or cross/uncross on an attempt to place |
16:28 |
VanessaE |
that would probably be best done by editing the insulated wire code |
16:29 |
VanessaE |
when you uncross, check the orientation of the wires/devices around the crossing and use those to determine which direction the single insulated wire should take when it appears |
16:30 |
M13 |
yea Keegan |
16:31 |
M13 |
##minetest-m13 |
16:31 |
Keegann |
did you login |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
"channe is invite only" |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
+l |
16:31 |
khonkhortisan |
09:32|* Cannot join ##minetest-m13 (Channel is invite only). |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
is there a bot in there holding it hostage> |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
? |
16:32 |
M13 |
no its invite inly |
16:32 |
M13 |
only* |
16:32 |
khonkhortisan |
you can always create a random channel |
16:32 |
M13 |
but im the OP of the Channel |
16:32 |
VanessaE |
M13: check the help files on chanserv |
16:32 |
khonkhortisan |
#randomchannelname |
16:32 |
VanessaE |
see if you can get chanserv to make it non-invite |
16:33 |
Keegann |
i camt invite u |
16:33 |
Keegann |
im no an op |
16:33 |
M13 |
whats the Command Vanessa |
16:33 |
VanessaE |
/msg chanserv invite ##minetest-m13 |
16:33 |
VanessaE |
try that |
16:33 |
M13 |
-ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation. |
16:34 |
VanessaE |
are you registered as the owner of the channel? |
16:34 |
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16:34 |
M13 |
no OldCoder is |
16:34 |
VanessaE |
the he has to. |
16:34 |
VanessaE |
then* |
16:34 |
Keegann |
yea |
16:36 |
M13 |
ok can you tell him to make it public Keegan tell him i want it Public |
16:37 |
M13 |
so i dont meed to go through this crap |
16:37 |
Keegann |
hes resting |
16:37 |
M13 |
ik |
16:37 |
M13 |
when hes back |
16:38 |
M13 |
Keegan go here : http://minetestm13.weebly.com |
16:38 |
M13 |
its the fork site |
16:40 |
Keegann |
so its with the forums now? |
16:40 |
M13 |
no the forums are still |
16:40 |
M13 |
there the same forums |
16:41 |
Keegann |
yea |
16:42 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
16:42 |
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16:42 |
LandMine |
hi everybody |
16:43 |
LandMine |
keegann you still mad baby? |
16:43 |
OldCoder |
M13, Let's talk back there |
16:43 |
OldCoder |
Keegann, don't respond |
16:43 |
Keegann |
urgh |
16:43 |
OldCoder |
Keegann, don't respond |
16:43 |
M13 |
WOOP |
16:43 |
OldCoder |
This is what you need to understand |
16:43 |
OldCoder |
M13, Back to the other channel please |
16:43 |
M13 |
Cant |
16:44 |
M13 |
Need invite |
16:44 |
khonkhortisan |
still invite only |
16:44 |
OldCoder |
M13, you are invited |
16:44 |
M13 |
make it public |
16:44 |
OldCoder |
M13, PM |
16:44 |
LandMine |
keegann thought you were gonna kill me |
16:44 |
LandMine |
what happened with that |
16:44 |
LandMine |
? |
16:44 |
M13 |
##minetest-m13 Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited |
16:44 |
LandMine |
you acted so gangsta lol |
16:44 |
khonkhortisan |
^ taunt |
16:45 |
khonkhortisan |
M13 your not invited message is slightly different than mine |
16:45 |
LandMine |
i want an invite OldCoder |
16:45 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't know the purpose of that channel, so I don't want in |
16:45 |
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16:46 |
LandMine |
m13 what happened to your server baby? |
16:46 |
LandMine |
got griefed pretty good heh |
16:46 |
LandMine |
hahahaahahaha |
16:47 |
M13 |
You Fucked it up |
16:47 |
M13 |
Im going to turn into Fucking Keegann if toy dont Shut your fucking face |
16:48 |
VanessaE |
M13, don't start |
16:48 |
khonkhortisan |
worldedit needs function do_in_spare_time(func, param) minetest.register_on_globalstep(func(param)) end |
16:48 |
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16:48 |
khonkhortisan |
scared them both off |
16:48 |
khonkhortisan |
haha double ban |
16:49 |
Keegann |
he'll change his ip |
16:49 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: that isn't a valid ban |
16:49 |
VanessaE |
wait, you're right |
16:49 |
celeron55 |
we could set this channel "registered users only" |
16:49 |
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16:49 |
VanessaE |
forgot the leading star |
16:49 |
M13 |
OldCoder |
16:49 |
celeron55 |
you can do that on freenode |
16:49 |
OldCoder |
<khonkhortisan> I don't know the purpose of that channel, so I don't want in |
16:49 |
celeron55 |
i also think "only registered users can speak" is possible |
16:50 |
celeron55 |
somebody find out? |
16:50 |
OldCoder |
The purpose is to be able to work in peace |
16:50 |
OldCoder |
M13, I am over there |
16:50 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, checking |
16:50 |
khonkhortisan |
there's some setting that doesn't let me change my name back to the registered one if I'm on a channel with that setting |
16:50 |
M13 |
i need invite >:/ |
16:50 |
OldCoder |
M13, You have been reinvited |
16:50 |
VanessaE |
well we could +m it |
16:50 |
VanessaE |
then you just need vocie |
16:50 |
VanessaE |
voice |
16:51 |
VanessaE |
+r requires identification |
16:51 |
khonkhortisan |
this channel would be like gameboom |
16:51 |
M13 |
nope : OldCoder |
16:51 |
M13 |
make it public |
16:51 |
M13 |
please |
16:51 |
M13 |
and give me the ban codes |
16:51 |
OldCoder |
M13, If we make it public, what do you propose to do about LandMine? |
16:51 |
M13 |
cmmands* |
16:52 |
M13 |
Ban |
16:52 |
OldCoder |
M13, I have talked to somebody about dealing with him permanently |
16:52 |
OldCoder |
Wait for that please |
16:52 |
Jordach |
;) |
16:52 |
M13 |
ok can you make it public please |
16:52 |
M13 |
thnx |
16:52 |
OldCoder |
M13, If we make it public he will come for Keegan |
16:52 |
Keegann |
whens that |
16:52 |
M13 |
Jordach |
16:52 |
Jordach |
yes |
16:53 |
M13 |
How it your fork going? |
16:53 |
Jordach |
alright |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
And frankly I have spent two days on this already and I have real work to do |
16:53 |
Jordach |
like your distro |
16:53 |
Jordach |
and finding a job |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, my distro? It is background |
16:53 |
M13 |
Mine? |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
yes |
16:53 |
M13 |
o Minetest-M13 |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
No |
16:53 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - try working for google |
16:53 |
OldCoder |
I live down the street from them :-) |
16:53 |
VanessaE |
"'/mode +q $~a' can be used to prevent unregistered users from speaking in channel while allowing them to join (old +R behaviour)." |
16:54 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: maybe that's what you want |
16:54 |
Jordach |
why dont you then |
16:54 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, there are other matters presently |
16:54 |
OldCoder |
The LandMine issue is taking up too much of my time |
16:54 |
khonkhortisan |
bzflag's official match servers let you join but not talk |
16:54 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: might work; maybe set that when landmine comes again |
16:54 |
VanessaE |
ok |
16:54 |
Jordach |
yes - online life is NOT REAL LIFE |
16:54 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Indeed |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
As I said earlier, you seem very sensible |
16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
online time takes real time |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
khonkhortisan, Indeed also |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
The one affects the other |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
Because people are in both. And people are real. |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
The matter needs to be brought to a conclusion. |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
Identify LandMine. |
16:55 |
OldCoder |
I will do the rest. |
16:55 |
Jordach |
i have a balance between life and computing. |
16:55 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: who's going to clean the blood off the floor? |
16:55 |
VanessaE |
;) |
16:56 |
* Jordach |
gets the mop ready |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I will simply talk to his school |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
As he is apparently younger than I thought |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
I can be remarkably persuasive on the phone |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
Very |
16:56 |
OldCoder |
Actually |
16:57 |
OldCoder |
Obtain his identity. |
16:58 |
M13 |
OldCoder ius it Public? |
16:58 |
M13 |
nope |
16:58 |
OldCoder |
M13, You are not paying attention. LM cannot be allowed in. You did not observe last night. |
16:58 |
M13 |
im going to work on the next update for Minetest-M13 |
16:58 |
OldCoder |
M13, I have reinvited you. Are you not able to enter? |
16:59 |
OldCoder |
Try again now please |
16:59 |
M13 |
ok |
16:59 |
M13 |
can I be Channel Owner? |
16:59 |
M13 |
im in |
16:59 |
OldCoder |
M13 When the LandMine issue is settled, probably |
16:59 |
OldCoder |
Psychiatric care needs to be arranged first |
17:00 |
khonkhortisan |
and we all know step number one. |
17:00 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Last night it went much farther than the things he's said to you. |
17:00 |
M13 |
ok |
17:00 |
M13 |
<OldCoder> M13 When the LandMine issue is settled, probably : 0k |
17:01 |
VanessaE |
oh? |
17:02 |
VanessaE |
pastebin, I gotta see this |
17:02 |
khonkhortisan |
or log if it's there |
17:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I have everything |
17:02 |
OldCoder |
Identify LM and I'll prepare a PDF |
17:02 |
OldCoder |
It goes to his school, his parents, and county people in his area |
17:03 |
OldCoder |
Also to all of his real-life friends |
17:03 |
OldCoder |
If that doesn't bring him into line |
17:03 |
OldCoder |
There are other measures. They are perfectly legal. |
17:03 |
OldCoder |
|
17:03 |
VanessaE |
I still wanna see it :) |
17:03 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I am offering it as incentive. |
17:03 |
OldCoder |
One person here believes they can land his identity. |
17:04 |
OldCoder |
I probably can too but I am out of practice. |
17:04 |
OldCoder |
Right now I need to talk to friends I've neglected over this matter. |
17:04 |
M13 |
OldCoder |
17:04 |
OldCoder |
What now? |
17:04 |
OldCoder |
I am in the other channel? |
17:04 |
M13 |
go to minetest-m13 |
17:06 |
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17:07 |
jordach-tab |
oldcoder, could you send me a copy :-) |
17:07 |
OldCoder |
PM |
17:08 |
OldCoder |
|
17:09 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Jordach others: There are some things in the log that should be redacted. Land LandMine and there will be a LandMine page that will document everything. Some of the material should not be reproduced to protect somebody else. |
17:09 |
OldCoder |
|
17:10 |
jordach-tab |
why not bar the persons name? |
17:10 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, PM please |
17:10 |
VanessaE |
never redact |
17:10 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, in this case yes |
17:10 |
VanessaE |
this isn't a government document |
17:10 |
VanessaE |
spill it all |
17:10 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I didn't say it was |
17:10 |
OldCoder |
No. |
17:10 |
OldCoder |
|
17:14 |
M13 |
OldCoder are you Working out LM |
17:14 |
OldCoder |
M13, Yes |
17:15 |
Keegann |
hopefully |
17:15 |
OldCoder |
I also have real-life business |
17:15 |
M13 |
ok |
17:15 |
OldCoder |
Keegann, leave the other channel or I swear I'll phone your parents |
17:15 |
Keegann |
NO |
17:15 |
M13 |
what Channel |
17:16 |
Keegann |
ur first one |
17:16 |
OldCoder |
He is waiting to fight with LM again |
17:16 |
OldCoder |
As though the other one will care |
17:16 |
OldCoder |
M13, verify you have lost op on that channel |
17:16 |
M13 |
wow |
17:17 |
OldCoder |
One moment |
17:17 |
OldCoder |
/msg ChanServ op #minetest-m13 M13 |
17:17 |
OldCoder |
Can I assume that no longer works? |
17:18 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41621#p41621 |
17:18 |
Calinou |
ubuntu user spotted |
17:18 |
khonkhortisan |
So if there was a plane of insulated mesecons travelling into infinity, and you placed one, they would all cross until you were carrying no more insulated mesecons. |
17:18 |
Calinou |
:) |
17:18 |
M13 |
no[e UbuntuNerd is OP for that Channel |
17:18 |
M13 |
nope |
17:19 |
M13 |
but LM isnt overthere OldCoder |
17:19 |
Calinou |
<celeron55> we could set this channel "registered users only" |
17:19 |
Calinou |
heck no |
17:19 |
OldCoder |
M13, Keegan expects to wait all day for him |
17:19 |
Calinou |
if you do that, this channel will forever be quiet |
17:19 |
Calinou |
you can do this for -delta and/or -dev, that'd be ok though |
17:19 |
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17:20 |
Keegann |
kick him |
17:20 |
VanessaE |
so if people want to talk here they can register |
17:20 |
khonkhortisan |
then where do they get help registering? |
17:20 |
VanessaE |
if the above were put into place anyway |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: /msg nickserv help register |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
or search the web |
17:25 |
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17:27 |
OldCoder |
OWNSyouAll, Keegan? |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
No |
17:27 |
Keegann |
no |
17:27 |
Keegann |
its lm |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
is it? |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
Might be |
17:27 |
Keegann |
im pretty sure |
17:27 |
OldCoder |
IP address is apparently Michigan |
17:28 |
M13 |
yep |
17:28 |
Keegann |
not me |
17:28 |
khonkhortisan |
The other one was mexico |
17:28 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
17:28 |
khonkhortisan |
xchat has a hard time opening firefox |
17:29 |
OWNSyouAll |
? |
17:29 |
Keegann |
dont speak |
17:30 |
khonkhortisan |
Your identity is in question. Please wait for the next security guard :P |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
haha |
17:30 |
M13 |
Hey OldCoder PM me |
17:31 |
M13 |
Keegann |
17:31 |
Keegann |
WHAT? |
17:32 |
M13 |
can you help me rebuild my server |
17:32 |
M13 |
i need help |
17:32 |
Keegann |
how do you make a image for mods |
17:32 |
M13 |
do you have gimp? |
17:32 |
Keegann |
yea |
17:32 |
Keegann |
what server |
17:33 |
M13 |
30001 |
17:33 |
Keegann |
i cant get on |
17:33 |
M13 |
ok one sec |
17:34 |
M13 |
m13.sytes.net Port 30001 |
17:34 |
M13 |
its up |
17:37 |
Keegann |
still cant join |
17:37 |
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17:37 |
Keegann |
great now hes this |
17:37 |
M13 |
weird |
17:37 |
Keegann |
whos |
17:37 |
Keegann |
try to unban me |
17:38 |
M13 |
try this at IP |
17:38 |
M13 |
71.217.56.221 |
17:39 |
Keegann |
ok |
17:39 |
VanessaE |
m13.sytes.net:30001 works for me. |
17:40 |
Keegann |
on gimp how do you make a mod texture |
17:41 |
VanessaE |
just make an image you like |
17:41 |
VanessaE |
Create a new image with a size of 16x16 and just start drawing |
17:41 |
VanessaE |
save it, put the filename into your mod item's tiles= line (or whatever you intend to do with it) |
17:46 |
M13 |
Vanessa can you help me and Keegan |
17:46 |
VanessaE |
help how? |
17:46 |
M13 |
LM ruined my server |
17:46 |
M13 |
i need help rebuilding |
17:46 |
VanessaE |
lemme look around |
17:46 |
M13 |
ok |
17:47 |
M13 |
Log in as Vanessa and ill give you privs |
17:47 |
VanessaE |
actually I use VanessaEzekowitz on servers. |
17:47 |
VanessaE |
there we go |
17:48 |
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17:48 |
M13 |
here |
17:48 |
jordach |
tablet just ran out of charge... |
17:49 |
VanessaE |
M13: textures on linux is easy. Download a texture pack. Place it somewhere say ~/texturepacks/ |
17:49 |
VanessaE |
edit ~/.minetest/minetest.conf to point to it, texture_path = ~/texturepacks/name-of-pack-here |
17:49 |
M13 |
? |
17:49 |
M13 |
o ok |
17:49 |
M13 |
like minetest 0.3.1 |
17:49 |
VanessaE |
(I never use the textures/all functionality) |
17:50 |
VanessaE |
I think so, been a while since i used an 0.3.x client |
17:50 |
M13 |
im on Minetest |
17:50 |
khonkhortisan |
how do I check if the neighbor node can link if my node can't link? |
17:50 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: get the node name of the neighbor and check its rules? |
17:51 |
khonkhortisan |
okay |
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Jordach |
if i keep swapping nick please ignore it; if i lock up then yaaic WILL be used |
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18:17 |
Keegann |
how do i draw iin gimp |
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18:22 |
M13 |
ill show you |
18:22 |
Keegann |
got it now |
18:28 |
M13 |
cool |
18:28 |
M13 |
what are the textures for? |
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18:33 |
RealBadAngel |
im back |
18:33 |
VanessaE |
hey RBA |
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18:35 |
chaplain |
gimp++ |
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18:35 |
EnimDnal |
wasssup |
18:35 |
VanessaE |
GIMP Is Your Friendâ„¢ |
18:35 |
OldCoder |
GIMP is SIMPle |
18:36 |
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18:37 |
VanessaE |
like we're that stupid. |
18:37 |
iqualfragile |
wer ist das? |
18:37 |
khonkhortisan |
so what's more fun, playing minetest, or modding minetest? |
18:38 |
iqualfragile |
the best part about gimp is the resynthizer-plugins |
18:38 |
iqualfragile |
khonkohorenatrenitae: hard to decide |
18:38 |
iqualfragile |
but i think modding is more fun |
18:38 |
khonkhortisan |
I should use that name khonkohorenatrenitae |
18:39 |
khonkohorenatren |
aw it's too long |
18:39 |
iqualfragile |
why? simple: most mods have great functionality (including minetest_game mods) but are not balanced |
18:40 |
iqualfragile |
so its not as fun to play minetest as it could be |
18:41 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: I make a point of trying to keep my mods balanced for that very reason |
18:43 |
RealBadAngel |
guten abend freunde |
18:43 |
RealBadAngel |
was ist los? |
18:43 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
18:43 |
iqualfragile |
nichts weiter, bei dir? |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
non habla Deutsche ;-) |
18:44 |
iqualfragile |
it would be Deutsch |
18:44 |
RealBadAngel |
ick auch |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
chose enough :) |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
close enough, too |
18:44 |
sfan5 |
vergesst mih nicht |
18:44 |
sfan5 |
*mich |
18:44 |
iqualfragile |
vanessaE: yeah, but some are not |
18:45 |
iqualfragile |
moreores adds to many ores |
18:45 |
iqualfragile |
microcontrolers are too easy to craft |
18:45 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: no way, moreores needs more ores :-) |
18:45 |
iqualfragile |
iron is much too common |
18:45 |
RealBadAngel |
nein, genug |
18:45 |
VanessaE |
microcontrollers require a lot of sand and iron to make |
18:46 |
VanessaE |
12 sand, 4 iron, ¼ of a mese block, and however much fuel to smelt the iron->steel |
18:46 |
iqualfragile |
and mininglaser mk1 gives you alot of sand |
18:46 |
RealBadAngel |
more could be too much, thats what it gives now its alrite |
18:47 |
iqualfragile |
and the miniglazer uses too less energy and has too many charges |
18:47 |
RealBadAngel |
not really |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
the amount of stuff needed to make an object is at least as important as the difficulty of gathering that stuff |
18:47 |
RealBadAngel |
compare 2 lasers charged and 2 mese picks |
18:48 |
RealBadAngel |
you got almost the same |
18:48 |
RealBadAngel |
but the effect when youre minining is different' |
18:49 |
iqualfragile |
thats the point |
18:49 |
RealBadAngel |
fun is powered |
18:49 |
iqualfragile |
you can just dig out gigantic holes in secnds |
18:49 |
RealBadAngel |
effect is the same |
18:51 |
RealBadAngel |
really, in the long run laser is not overpowered |
18:51 |
RealBadAngel |
at least MK1 |
18:51 |
iqualfragile |
^^ |
18:51 |
iqualfragile |
im changing most of those things localy for my server anyways |
18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
iqualfragile, you made your 1st merge |
18:52 |
VanessaE |
perhaps the laser should be slowed down a little |
18:52 |
khonkhortisan |
sà sprechen les engelsk |
18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
would you like to become "technican"/ |
18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
? |
18:53 |
VanessaE |
(a real one after all still needs time to cut through its target) |
18:54 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean, i would love to have more folks involved in the project |
18:54 |
iqualfragile |
hmm… i might think about it |
18:54 |
iqualfragile |
but at the moment i dont rly have spare time |
18:55 |
VanessaE |
Hah, now landmine alias enimdnal is messaging me asking why he was banned, claims how he doesn't troll, etc. Just how stupid does he think I am? |
18:55 |
khonkhortisan |
oh I didn't get that it was backwards |
18:55 |
RealBadAngel |
iqualfragile, take ur time. ure welcome |
18:56 |
khonkhorsitan |
whoops |
18:56 |
VanessaE |
make up our minds :) |
18:57 |
RealBadAngel |
now im goint to take a nap |
18:57 |
RealBadAngel |
be back later |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
noooooo |
18:57 |
RealBadAngel |
im tired |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
lazy ;) |
18:57 |
RealBadAngel |
nah |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
ok, cya |
18:57 |
RealBadAngel |
tired |
18:57 |
RealBadAngel |
reallly |
18:58 |
iqualfragile |
gute nacht, freunde, es ist zeit für dich zu gehen |
18:58 |
RealBadAngel |
i was makin electro installation at my friends new house |
18:59 |
RealBadAngel |
wirklich |
18:59 |
iqualfragile |
im sitting in front of my pc, figuring out fai while bridging the waiting-times by watching the big bang thory |
18:59 |
iqualfragile |
s/thory/theory |
18:59 |
iqualfragile |
it slowly stops being fun |
19:01 |
RealBadAngel |
clickin can become boring |
19:01 |
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19:02 |
RealBadAngel |
coding? never |
19:02 |
RealBadAngel |
coding is act of creation |
19:02 |
RealBadAngel |
and thats is never even a bit close to boredom |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
ssshhhhhh |
19:03 |
OldCoder |
<RealBadAngel> coding is act of creation |
19:03 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
celeron55 claims right of creation around here :DS |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
:D |
19:03 |
thexyz |
any decent flowers mod? |
19:04 |
VanessaE |
mine of course :D |
19:04 |
khonkhortisan |
وأود أن لا تكون قادرة على رسم الأØر٠لهذه اللغة |
19:04 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
19:04 |
khonkhortisan |
arabic |
19:04 |
VanessaE |
yes I know |
19:05 |
VanessaE |
what's it say? |
19:05 |
RealBadAngel |
some arabic said im rite |
19:05 |
thexyz |
how about dyes integration? |
19:05 |
RealBadAngel |
;) |
19:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I wouldn't be able to draw the characters of this language |
19:05 |
khonkhortisan |
but I run it through again and it tries to correct its own spelling |
19:06 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: afaik, my unified dyes is the only way to craft dyes that can be used with the in-game dyes mod. |
19:06 |
thexyz |
um.. |
19:07 |
thexyz |
does your mod add new dyes or only provide recipes for flowers? |
19:07 |
VanessaE |
both. |
19:07 |
thexyz |
well, the problem is that i need mod that only does the second thing |
19:07 |
VanessaE |
flowers -> my dyes -> dozens of colors, some of which directly translate to in-game dye colors |
19:08 |
VanessaE |
so if you use the in-game dyes' groups, mine will work too. |
19:09 |
thexyz |
what if i don't need "dozens of colors"? just want to make flowers converted to default dyes somehow |
19:09 |
khonkhortisan |
it's nice when mods are compatible with each other |
19:09 |
VanessaE |
then don't use dozens of colors? |
19:09 |
VanessaE |
the flowers only convert to 6 base colors |
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19:09 |
RealBadAngel |
im going AFK, be back later |
19:10 |
RealBadAngel |
need some sleep |
19:10 |
VanessaE |
use those to craft the ..what was it, 12? colors the default mod supports. |
19:10 |
thexyz |
17 |
19:10 |
VanessaE |
right, 17 then |
19:10 |
khonkhortisan |
including grayscale |
19:11 |
VanessaE |
but once you make those, you don't have to make any others - just use them directly. |
19:11 |
VanessaE |
mine just adds crafting recipes for the remaining 72 colors in the palette, and you can ignore those because they're entirely self-contained. |
19:11 |
VanessaE |
(they don't overlap or interfere with anything) |
19:11 |
khonkhortisan |
except defining more things |
19:11 |
khonkhortisan |
and filling up the texture atlas |
19:12 |
thexyz |
i guess i can make any dye from dye.excolors by mixing some dyes from dye.basecolors |
19:12 |
thexyz |
am i right? |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: right |
19:12 |
thexyz |
oh, nice |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
or from the unicolors section |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
so if for example you make blue and yellow dyes from geraniums and yellow dandelions with my mod, you can use them directly as basecolors, or mix the two dyes to get green, also a base color |
19:15 |
VanessaE |
as long as your crafting recipe uses the group matching the color you want, both dye systems will work :) |
19:21 |
VanessaE |
I just wish celeron55 would add flowers, jungle grass, and jungle trees mods to minetest_game. |
19:22 |
VanessaE |
fewer dependencies for my other mods :D |
19:26 |
OWNSyouAll |
i just like that it has a nyancat block by default |
19:26 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd expect jungletrees to get in faster than flowers, because they have already been in |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: maybe |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
same should hold for jungle grass. anyway, jungle trees are epic :-) |
19:29 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm getting nil for the neighbor's rules. I had to write the function myself so it doesn't also check my rules. |
19:41 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/painting |
19:43 |
thexyz |
lol |
19:44 |
thexyz |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. |
19:44 |
thexyz |
well |
19:44 |
thexyz |
fuck them |
19:49 |
Kray |
fucking deletionists |
19:50 |
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19:53 |
iqualfragile |
is anyone runung the animals-mod? |
19:53 |
NakedFury |
damn them |
19:54 |
NakedFury |
copy paste the article then add it as soon as they delete it |
19:55 |
NakedFury |
then keep doing that until they give up |
19:55 |
sfan5 |
NakedFury: the admin will ban you if you do that |
19:55 |
NakedFury |
make a new account and keep trying |
19:56 |
M13 |
kray |
19:56 |
M13 |
kray from kray's server |
19:56 |
Kray |
m13 |
19:57 |
M13 |
kray from kray's server |
19:57 |
Kray |
m13 from m13's server |
19:57 |
Kray |
m13 from m13's server |
19:57 |
M13 |
yes |
19:57 |
M13 |
are you the owner of Kray's Server |
19:58 |
Kray |
yes |
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OldCoder |
20:02 |
OldCoder |
M13, Hi |
20:02 |
khonkhortisan |
What if it gets sources again? Will all the content have to be rewritten? |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
ok everyone get on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
nominate it to be kept. |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
and provide a really good reason. |
20:08 |
khonkhortisan |
18yo deletionist |
20:11 |
OldCoder |
|
20:11 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
20:11 |
OldCoder |
Folks, we have some progress |
20:11 |
OldCoder |
Please PM me the following: |
20:11 |
VanessaE |
? |
20:11 |
OldCoder |
Chat logs, forum posts, screenshots related to our friend LandMine |
20:12 |
M13 |
Does anyone have some information on LandMine / Some Bad Things he has done on IRC |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
There will be news today |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
|
20:12 |
OldCoder |
M13 I have it here |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
Go collect elsewhere |
20:12 |
M13 |
o ok |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
Just PM and paste anything you found especially friendly |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, that includes you and some of the gentle remarks you told me about |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
|
20:12 |
OldCoder |
This may be fun |
20:12 |
OldCoder |
|
20:13 |
OldCoder |
<------- is about to have some fun |
20:13 |
OldCoder |
|
20:19 |
VanessaE |
digging through my logs now. |
20:19 |
M13 |
ni other channels can help |
20:19 |
M13 |
no* |
20:20 |
OldCoder |
If this is a false alarm we're going to ask C55 to proceed with plan B |
20:20 |
M13 |
ok |
20:20 |
khonkhortisan |
Vanessa you got a response |
20:24 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: http://pastebin.com/4FkDqQ1v |
20:24 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
20:24 |
VanessaE |
filtered the logs for just his nick in its usual form, plus one comment from the unfiltered version that got missed. |
20:24 |
M13 |
Thats Gold |
20:24 |
OldCoder |
Geez |
20:24 |
OldCoder |
Classy |
20:24 |
OldCoder |
Thx |
20:24 |
OldCoder |
|
20:24 |
VanessaE |
still think he's worth trying to reform? :-) |
20:24 |
M13 |
OldCoder where done |
20:24 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, you have not understood |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
What I am |
20:25 |
khonkhortisan |
oh yeah I remember being called a mormon |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
It is not about reform |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
|
20:25 |
OldCoder |
M13, k |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
Working for an hour or two |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, if what I have is not right, you will need to support plan B |
20:25 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: actually it was the cunt part that prompted me to include that one. |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
Plan B will require C55 support |
20:28 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: is there any russian articles about minetest? |
20:28 |
celeron55 |
same goes for Calinou about french, when he appears |
20:28 |
sfan5 |
Aug 29 2012 23:27:46 <LandMine> got more than 100 ips |
20:29 |
sfan5 |
well, all ips start with 189.144 or 189.191 |
20:30 |
thexyz |
celeron55: well, there are at least 2 news articles |
20:30 |
celeron55 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest |
20:30 |
celeron55 |
they might help in that |
20:31 |
celeron55 |
or even probably will help |
20:31 |
thexyz |
celeron55: though i don't know whether can that be counted as "notable source" |
20:31 |
thexyz |
celeron55: https://www.linux.org.ru/news/games/6984308 https://www.linux.org.ru/news/games/8027529 |
20:31 |
thexyz |
there is also http://www.lgdb.org/game/minetest_c55 |
20:31 |
celeron55 |
news that says other things than just copies text from my blog and minetest.net is likely to be somewhat better than none |
20:32 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: please look at -delta. |
20:32 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, those are VPNs |
20:32 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: can wat |
20:32 |
celeron55 |
wat* |
20:32 |
celeron55 |
+iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
20:32 |
VanessaE |
ok, no prob. |
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20:34 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: is linux.org.ru a bloggish site with one person posting everything and nobody checking anything, or is it more like a news site where more people do it and try to figure out what is actually important? |
20:34 |
VanessaE |
(I have to admit, that took me a bit to parse ;) ) |
20:34 |
celeron55 |
that is what matters to wikipedia |
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20:35 |
thexyz |
celeron55: everybody can post news which then should be approved by moderators |
20:35 |
celeron55 |
apparently linux.org.ru is notable enough to be on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux.org.ru |
20:35 |
celeron55 |
that might mean it could very well count |
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20:42 |
iqualfragile |
minetest is in the ubuntu-archives (not shure about debian) |
20:42 |
iqualfragile |
has this been noted in the article? |
20:48 |
celeron55 |
added my nomination in there |
20:48 |
celeron55 |
now if somebody actually added those references to the article itself (i'm too lazy and biased) |
20:50 |
M13 |
Celeron55: can you make the texture alias of minetest 0.4-DEV20120106 bigger |
20:51 |
iqualfragile |
an die Deutschsprachigen hier im Raum: last uns mal den Artikel übesetzen. Ich hab nen Piratenpad erstellt und schonmal angefangen: http://piratepad.net/kSVZXljqLF |
20:51 |
celeron55 |
wat |
20:51 |
celeron55 |
^ M13 |
20:51 |
M13 |
Celeron55: can you make the texture alias of minetest 0.4-DEV20120106 bigger |
20:51 |
M13 |
is it possible |
20:51 |
celeron55 |
iqualfragile: wtf is that? |
20:52 |
iqualfragile |
its an etherpad |
20:52 |
M13 |
and what src code file is it in |
20:52 |
iqualfragile |
you can edit textfiles synchronously |
20:52 |
celeron55 |
M13: i guess tile.cpp |
20:52 |
M13 |
ok |
20:52 |
M13 |
Ill tell OldCoder thnx |
20:52 |
iqualfragile |
its the english wikipedia-entery |
20:53 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
20:53 |
iqualfragile |
i just asked the people speaking german in here to help me translate |
20:53 |
iqualfragile |
sfan5 hilf mal |
20:58 |
iqualfragile |
sfan5 BartoCH cornernote und wer auch immer noch deutsch kann: helft bitte mit http://piratepad.net/kSVZXljqLF dashier auf deutsch zu übersetzen |
20:59 |
BartoCH |
my Deutsch ist so schlecht, ich mache so viele Fehler. |
21:00 |
BartoCH |
ich kann nicht zwei korrekten Sätzen machen :( |
21:02 |
iqualfragile |
ok… schade |
21:06 |
BartoCH |
ja, es ist nicht mein Muttersprache... |
21:10 |
VanessaE |
There, I've restored sufficient imagery in the wikipedia article. |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
and I KNOW they are free images. |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
"copyright violations" my ass. |
21:15 |
VanessaE |
anyone else want to chime in on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest |
21:16 |
VanessaE |
needs "keep" votes and damn good reasons accordingly. |
21:16 |
Keegann |
can you look over my mod http://pastebin.com/SXj6xLh1 |
21:16 |
VanessaE |
tile_images= is deprecated. |
21:16 |
VanessaE |
use tiles= |
21:17 |
iqualfragile |
vanessae: judging by the decorations of the window you have given the wrong source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Minetest_creative_mode.png |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
digprop_xxxx() calls are obsolete and unsupported. |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
use groups. |
21:17 |
iqualfragile |
as you have taken the screenshot you are the source/author |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
I assumed the source was where the image came from |
21:18 |
VanessaE |
hence I disclaim any authorship of it |
21:18 |
iqualfragile |
celeron55: could you note that a) we are allowed to use the screenshots/pictures from your website |
21:19 |
iqualfragile |
and b) we are allowed to use the ingame-screenshots we make? |
21:19 |
celeron55 |
eh |
21:19 |
VanessaE |
it's already cc-by-sa/30 anyway |
21:19 |
VanessaE |
er cc-by-sa-3.0 |
21:20 |
celeron55 |
isn't the first one fair use, and the latter one obviously is true because the software is under LGPL = any use, and the images are CC BY-SA = any use if credited (and some is WTFPL) |
21:20 |
VanessaE |
From the readme: "This applies to textures and sounds contained in the main Minetest distribution. Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0)" |
21:21 |
celeron55 |
yes, it does not include media that has less rights than that |
21:21 |
iqualfragile |
allrigt, then add that to the images on wikipedia |
21:21 |
VanessaE |
not that you give a shit if someone re-uses the screenshot :-) |
21:21 |
celeron55 |
i don't give a shit about anything |
21:21 |
celeron55 |
it's the contributors that may give |
21:21 |
iqualfragile |
celeron55: its fair use, but wikipedia likes clear statements |
21:23 |
celeron55 |
it's unhandy for me to write that anywhere when it'd be just fine anyway |
21:25 |
celeron55 |
apparently you'd have to spend money for advertisements to get on wikipedia |
21:25 |
celeron55 |
silly american world |
21:26 |
VanessaE |
yep |
21:26 |
celeron55 |
nothing can be credible if it's not backed by $$$ |
21:27 |
VanessaE |
makes me quite ashamed to be american. |
21:28 |
Jordach |
are still on about wiki licensing? |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
same old bullshit, different day :-/ |
21:31 |
celeron55 |
that's how the world works |
21:31 |
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21:33 |
Jordach |
celeron55, seems we have the same plan, VanessaE, it's life...deal with it. |
21:34 |
VanessaE |
Keegann: also, your use of nested quotes in craft recipes is somewhat outdated (just put one set of quotes around each item in the recipe). Also, re-check your typing, "defaultcoal_lump" is not a valid item name. |
21:35 |
celeron55 |
some day i need to figure out a project that involves lots of green pieces of paper and nearly zero work |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: venture capitalist? ;) |
21:37 |
celeron55 |
maybe i'll borrow money for a house, spend it all on some crazy startup, lose everything and then get involved in organized crime to get moniez |
21:37 |
Jordach |
celeron55 - if you want green paper, recycle |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
oh this is funny -- "When you go back and watch Mitt Romney... I mean, after seeing Michelle Obama speak, and Bill [Clinton] speak, and the President speak, it's like watching an armless man paint with his ass." -- Bill Maher |
21:39 |
VanessaE |
I've never heard a political candidate referred to quite in that manner before :D |
21:39 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, lol politics |
21:39 |
celeron55 |
politics is fun; it's like reality tv except that it actually deals with reality |
21:40 |
VanessaE |
hey, at least US politics is funnier than WP politics once the comedians get into it :) |
21:41 |
Jordach |
celeron55, unless you live in England, the conservartives are essentially wanting moniez like those fat-ass bankers. |
21:42 |
celeron55 |
it's silly how much money politicians are given and then they are somehow expected to think about the normal people |
21:43 |
Jordach |
VanessaE. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41674#p41674 and http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41692#p41692 asking for mod/admin not gunna happen ere |
21:43 |
celeron55 |
they'll invest half of it and then they'll just try to make their investments work better 8)))))) |
21:43 |
NakedFury |
they should work for minimal wage |
21:43 |
Jordach |
like $6 an hour |
21:43 |
NakedFury |
the minimum |
21:43 |
celeron55 |
no? a bit above average would work just fine |
21:43 |
NakedFury |
then you will see politics full of people that care |
21:43 |
Jordach |
or nhothing |
21:43 |
Jordach |
nothing |
21:43 |
celeron55 |
now they're like at least double, more like triple the average in finland at least |
21:43 |
NakedFury |
and dont pay the president so much dammit |
21:44 |
Jordach |
if the world automates, then programmers will end up making more money, because there are no people who can code and control them |
21:44 |
Jordach |
(the machines that run the world) |
21:50 |
celeron55 |
the day the machines are the programmers will be interesting |
21:50 |
Jordach |
o.o |
21:50 |
* OldCoder |
will be back in an hour |
21:50 |
Jordach |
lol skynet |
21:50 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, PM please |
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21:55 |
Mallot1 |
was minetest made in Dev-C++ and OpenGL? |
21:55 |
VanessaE |
C++, with Irrlicht as the 3d engine. |
21:56 |
* OldCoder |
is collecting LM information. PM anything you wish. |
21:57 |
VanessaE |
anyone feel like making a photorealistic nyan cat for my texture pack? :-) |
21:57 |
VanessaE |
(ignoring for the moment how much of a contradiction in terms that is) |
21:57 |
Mallot1 |
? |
21:58 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, no. |
21:58 |
Mallot1 |
no |
21:58 |
VanessaE |
fine :) |
21:58 |
khonkhortisan |
I wouldn't know where to start |
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22:10 |
iqualfragile |
can a debian-user pm me his /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
22:11 |
Mallot1 |
hello anyone know how to make minetest based games |
22:12 |
Mallot1 |
in Dev-C++ and Opengl? |
22:12 |
iqualfragile |
use google |
22:12 |
iqualfragile |
use your brain |
22:12 |
iqualfragile |
then ask again if you still have to ask |
22:13 |
iqualfragile |
wich ich quite unlikely to happen |
22:17 |
MiJyn |
Mallot1, try using GLFW |
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22:18 |
Mallot1 |
what does that stand for? |
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22:18 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
22:18 |
MiJyn |
GL FrameWork, I guess |
22:18 |
MiJyn |
it lets you have Mouse+Keyboard+Joystick+Window cross-platform |
22:18 |
VanessaE |
hi Neko |
22:18 |
MiJyn |
I use it :) |
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22:23 |
MiJyn |
bll |
22:23 |
MiJyn |
*bbl |
22:23 |
khonkhortisan |
Bye Later alL |
22:24 |
M13 |
is OldCoder here |
22:24 |
MiJyn |
Lol |
22:24 |
MiJyn |
yeah |
22:24 |
MiJyn |
he's on #minetest-m13 |
22:24 |
M13 |
is he talking |
22:24 |
MiJyn |
but he's AFK |
22:24 |
MiJyn |
(which will be my state too :P) |
22:24 |
M13 |
ok |
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22:26 |
M13 |
Keegan |
22:26 |
Keegann |
what |
22:27 |
M13 |
your garage_door has a major bug |
22:27 |
Keegann |
wht |
22:27 |
M13 |
yea |
22:27 |
M13 |
the others work |
22:28 |
M13 |
Im posting it |
22:28 |
M13 |
Keegan come on the Minetest-M13 server |
22:28 |
Jordach |
m13, i repaired your channel topic |
22:29 |
M13 |
Repaired? |
22:29 |
M13 |
#minetest-m13? |
22:29 |
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22:29 |
Keegann |
hey lndmine |
22:29 |
M13 |
my Channel is ##minetest-m13 |
22:29 |
Jordach |
yep |
22:30 |
M13 |
There is nothing wrong with it] |
22:30 |
Jordach |
i menat the old one |
22:30 |
Keegann |
M13 invite me to it' |
22:30 |
M13 |
Jordach do you use Windows XP |
22:30 |
Jordach |
rioght now yes |
22:30 |
Jordach |
right |
22:31 |
Jordach |
here - my current design for minetest-classic api http://pastebin.com/hF1cXzTe |
22:31 |
Keegann |
M13 invite me to ##minetest-m13 |
22:32 |
M13 |
can you compile my fork of Minetest for Windows (I use Linux) |
22:32 |
M13 |
Keegann i cant |
22:32 |
M13 |
only OldCoder can |
22:32 |
Keegann |
yea arent you an op |
22:32 |
M13 |
hes AFK |
22:33 |
M13 |
yea but it wont let me |
22:33 |
Jordach |
m13 - compiling minetest is horrible on windows |
22:33 |
Keegann |
try it gain |
22:33 |
Jordach |
ask thexyz, he can do so with ease |
22:33 |
M13 |
is he here |
22:33 |
M13 |
talking? |
22:33 |
VanessaE |
do you see him talking? |
22:34 |
M13 |
no |
22:34 |
VanessaE |
then he isn't. :-) |
22:34 |
M13 |
| |
22:34 |
M13 |
. |
22:34 |
M13 |
| |
22:35 |
Jordach |
swigh |
22:35 |
Jordach |
sigh |
22:35 |
Jordach |
this is why i dislike it here |
22:35 |
Jordach |
crowded |
22:36 |
NakedFury |
3 people are a crowd? |
22:36 |
VanessaE |
yeah but without the crowd, there's no one to talk to :) |
22:36 |
Jordach |
im a loner |
22:36 |
Jordach |
deal with it |
22:36 |
khonkhortisan |
mesecon:is_conductor(nodename) returns true, then mesecon:conductor_get_rules(nodename) returns nil. I don't get it. |
22:37 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
22:37 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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22:37 |
khonkhortisan |
I print "NIL!" just before minetest crashes for good measure. |
22:38 |
VanessaE |
haha |
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22:39 |
VanessaE |
sleep well, RBAA? |
22:39 |
VanessaE |
0A |
22:39 |
VanessaE |
-A -0A |
22:39 |
RealBadAngel |
not rly |
22:39 |
VanessaE |
sowwy |
22:39 |
khonkhortisan |
-A --OA |
22:39 |
RealBadAngel |
but woke up |
22:40 |
RealBadAngel |
neeeeeeeeeed a coffee |
22:40 |
RealBadAngel |
badly |
22:40 |
* VanessaE |
hands RealBadAngel a Rip-It "Fbomb" |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
fuck coffee, this stuff will wake you up easier ;) |
22:40 |
RealBadAngel |
hehhe |
22:41 |
RealBadAngel |
whats dat? |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
an energy drink along the lines of Red bull, monster, rock star, etc. |
22:41 |
RealBadAngel |
holy shit |
22:41 |
Mallot1 |
a 3d game engine for beginners? |
22:41 |
RealBadAngel |
i do love and get used to hy heart lol |
22:42 |
Keegann |
any more channel about minetest? |
22:42 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
22:42 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest on the hour |
22:42 |
Mallot1 |
yes minetest channel |
22:42 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest channel 5 |
22:43 |
RealBadAngel |
MTV (minetest tv) |
22:43 |
Keegann |
what are they call |
22:44 |
RealBadAngel |
pick it up,we r everywhere |
22:44 |
Keegann |
what |
22:44 |
Keegann |
s the channels name |
22:44 |
RealBadAngel |
mtv |
22:45 |
Keegann |
no one on there |
22:45 |
M13 |
Keegan |
22:45 |
Keegann |
what |
22:45 |
RealBadAngel |
ur remote is worth shit |
22:45 |
RealBadAngel |
we are here, all of us |
22:45 |
M13 |
Im going to Upload the new Version of Minetest-M13 and you and me are going to play on its server |
22:46 |
M13 |
ok? |
22:46 |
Keegann |
ok |
22:46 |
RealBadAngel |
incredible |
22:46 |
RealBadAngel |
8 files of code |
22:46 |
RealBadAngel |
and chicken comes |
22:47 |
* RealBadAngel |
sings "and thats the power of love.." |
22:47 |
Keegann |
what server |
22:49 |
M13 |
Keegan |
22:49 |
M13 |
Port 30002 |
22:50 |
M13 |
its for the Client |
22:50 |
M13 |
0.4.3 dont work on it |
22:51 |
Keegann |
what client |
22:51 |
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22:51 |
M13 |
Download (Latest) here : http://minetestm13.weebly.com/downloads.html |
22:52 |
M13 |
if it dont work you'll need to compile it (easy!) |
22:52 |
M13 |
ask if you need help |
22:52 |
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22:53 |
Keegann |
which one is iit? |
22:54 |
M13 |
the 3rd one down |
22:54 |
iqualfragile |
M13: so: whats so special about your fork? |
22:54 |
Keegann |
shoot |
22:54 |
Keegann |
this laptop can barely play mnetest |
22:55 |
M13 |
read : http://inetestm13.weebly.com |
22:55 |
M13 |
http://minetestm13.weebly.com |
22:55 |
M13 |
use Second |
22:58 |
iqualfragile |
well… i did, before i asked |
22:58 |
iqualfragile |
still: whats so special about it? |
23:03 |
M13 |
well its "going" to be less resource hungry and its going to have more items and stuff as the Fork Move Forward |
23:03 |
M13 |
its a Hobby to me |
23:08 |
RealBadAngel |
ehhhh |
23:08 |
RealBadAngel |
sometimes to laugh is even too hard way even |
23:09 |
RealBadAngel |
iqualfragile, tested the patch? |
23:10 |
iqualfragile |
you mean the patch i send you? |
23:10 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
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_2cool4me4_ |
hola! |
23:32 |
Jordach |
night all |
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23:49 |
Keegann |
hey octu |
23:49 |
Octupus |
hey' |
23:52 |
_2cool4me4_ |
oops, ripple carry goes the other way... |
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