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Time Nick Message
00:00 VanessaE cool
00:00 NekoGloop do you want it when I'm done?
00:00 VanessaE no that's ok
00:00 NekoGloop D:
00:00 VanessaE but upload/release it anyway
00:00 NekoGloop Why not?
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00:00 VanessaE don'tn eed it :-)
00:01 NekoGloop If there isnt a single person here who wants it I'm just not gonna release it
00:01 VanessaE release it anyway
00:01 VanessaE someone will want it
00:01 NekoGloop No.
00:01 NekoGloop I doubt it.
00:01 VanessaE but for them to know, they have to see it :-)
00:01 NekoGloop Most people wont try it
00:01 VanessaE never use this IRC channel as a gauge, you'll almost always get incorrect results
00:01 NekoGloop lol
00:02 NekoGloop Well I guess it's staying in Modding General if I release it.
00:02 VanessaE it'll get moved if it meets the Mod Releases section's rules :-)
00:02 VanessaE (and if I'm not too lazy to move it :D )
00:03 NekoGloop like you're too lazy to move GloopOres
00:04 VanessaE hm, move the file to ompldr or dropbox or so
00:05 VanessaE sendspace tried to open a popup
00:05 NekoGloop you apparently had no problem with moving GloopBlocks, which does the same.
00:05 VanessaE I didn't download it :D
00:05 NekoGloop lol
00:05 NekoGloop anyway
00:06 NekoGloop since github has decided to not hate me any more I might put it on github
00:06 VanessaE moved.
00:06 VanessaE is neko a happy kitty now? ;)
00:06 NekoGloop No
00:06 VanessaE aw :(
00:07 NekoGloop inb4 it gets moved back
00:08 PilzAdam MiniTest is now on github: https://github.com/PilzAdam
00:08 NekoGloop Cool.
00:08 NekoGloop Moreores tools... y u take so long to texture >.>
00:08 VanessaE it'll probably remain where it is since it does meet the section's criteria
00:09 PilzAdam gtg
00:09 PilzAdam bye
00:09 VanessaE the download link is just a side note; c55 doesn't like download links that have lots of ads, or popups, or make you fill out a captcha or sign in
00:10 NekoGloop well sendshare doesnt give me a popup
00:10 NekoGloop of course... I havent actually -USED- sendshare to download something
00:10 VanessaE me neither, thanks to firefox blocking it :-)
00:10 VanessaE (it informed me that it blocked one)
00:11 NekoGloop lol
00:14 NekoGloop so you mean to tell me you never downloaded EITHER of my mods?
00:14 VanessaE I never had the chance :-)
00:14 VanessaE been too busy
00:14 NekoGloop with what?
00:15 VanessaE hacking on mesecons :-)
00:15 NekoGloop lol
00:16 NekoGloop I've got 2/4 of moreores done
00:16 VanessaE by the way, you can rely on moreores without *depending* on it if you want
00:16 VanessaE just make your recipes like usual, but leave it out of your depends.txt
00:16 VanessaE if it doesn't exist, the related recipes simply don't work.
00:18 NekoGloop but what if my mod doesnt run after moreores?
00:18 VanessaE doesn't matter
00:18 NekoGloop oh ok
00:18 VanessaE at least as far as I can tell it doesn't
00:19 NekoGloop still gonna make there be a config.lua, so that that 30-60 seconds of registering tools and crafts are not wasted
00:19 VanessaE heh ok
00:21 NekoGloop since there's 8 tools for each ore, and then 4 tool-making ores in moreores, and then on top of that gloopores has 2 more ores to add to that.
00:21 NekoGloop so... 8x6
00:21 VanessaE lotta tools
00:21 NekoGloop ikr
00:21 NekoGloop looking at the textures I can tell
00:22 NekoGloop not that I cant tell anyway; my fingers are the ones that are typing
00:22 NekoGloop *cough*but copy and paste is a life-saver*cough*
00:22 VanessaE haha
00:23 NekoGloop the only things I need to change are tool_capabilities, description, name, and crafting recipes
00:23 VanessaE hope you're using a loop to initialize it all
00:23 NekoGloop lol i would if I could
00:23 VanessaE it's easy
00:23 NekoGloop lol ya right
00:24 VanessaE make a table with all the tool capabilities, another table with the descriptions in the same order, names, crafting recipes
00:24 * NekoGloop cant even make a loop in GAMEMAKER and not have it error
00:24 VanessaE then you use a loop to walk through the items one at a time, picking off entries in the tables to fill in your register_craft and register_node calls
00:25 VanessaE takes about half as much code, or less, than to copy&paste every node/craft call for each unique item
00:25 NekoGloop how about... I do it my way and let some wise-ass attempt to one-up me with shorter code.
00:25 VanessaE er
00:25 NekoGloop then mercilessly take his code
00:26 VanessaE (motions toward NekoGloop...  Who pissed in his cat food this morning?)
00:26 NekoGloop Everyone
00:26 NekoGloop Everyone who didnt try to help with alchemy mod
00:26 NekoGloop which is everyone here but PilzAdan
00:27 NekoGloop PilzAdam*
00:27 VanessaE not everyone here knows the whole minetest API yet :-)
00:27 VanessaE and with the travesty that is the API doc, I think no one ever will except c55 :)
00:27 NekoGloop the only thing people could say was
00:27 NekoGloop "look at lua_api.txt"
00:28 NekoGloop Even though I KEEP THE GODDAMN THING OPEN IN NOTEPAD++
00:29 VanessaE jeez
00:29 NekoGloop why dont they look and see what my eyes are missing, huh?
00:30 NekoGloop just... answer that for me.
00:30 VanessaE because most are too busy with other stuff or are too lazy :-)
00:30 NekoGloop ok then
00:31 NekoGloop btw: alchemy mod has been discontinued
00:31 VanessaE bummer
00:31 NekoGloop well...
00:31 NekoGloop 1) it became more like physics
00:31 NekoGloop 2) got too complicated
00:32 VanessaE well don't delete the code - you may decide to pick it back up some day
00:32 NekoGloop My workbenchcrafts mod is going to have an uber-tool :D
00:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: I just mass-commented the entire file.
00:32 VanessaE standard geek rule:  If you break something, save all the pieces.
00:32 NekoGloop The uber-tool is going to use a LOT of items :D
00:33 VanessaE and if it never worked to begin with, hack it to do something new :-)
00:33 NekoGloop uber-tool will use ingots from gloopores AND moreores. :D
00:34 VanessaE what's the purpose of it?
00:34 NekoGloop destroying blocks quickly and long tool life
00:35 NekoGloop souped-up mese pick basically :D
00:35 VanessaE ah
00:35 NekoGloop will dig crumbly, cracky, and fleshy
00:35 NekoGloop (choppy as well)
00:36 NekoGloop this reminds me of the time I tried to make a texture pack for another game.
00:37 NekoGloop I wonder if the downloadable free trial of minecraft is working yet lol
00:38 VanessaE byute your tongue
00:38 VanessaE byte, too
00:38 NekoGloop ?
00:39 NekoGloop Why?
00:39 VanessaE minecraft indeed
00:39 VanessaE such language
00:39 NekoGloop LOL
00:39 * NekoGloop places his tounge under his left fang
00:39 * NekoGloop bite
00:40 NekoGloop funny thing is I actually have little "fangs" on my 3rd teeth from the center, on the top, either side.
00:40 VanessaE everyone does I think
00:40 NekoGloop no mine are more pronounced
00:40 cy1 Those would be your canines.
00:40 VanessaE there's a reason those are called 'canines' :-)
00:40 VanessaE hey cy1.
00:40 NekoGloop well I want "felines" ;)
00:41 cy1 hey :(
00:41 VanessaE :(  ?
00:41 NekoGloop cy1: most fail-lurker ever
00:42 cy1 Just spent all day not having anyone to play w/
00:42 VanessaE aww
00:42 cy1 wish minetest was more like Second Life
00:42 VanessaE you've got us :-)
00:42 NekoGloop go to the backstab server
00:42 NekoGloop its usually active
00:42 NekoGloop and if not I could help with that ;)
00:42 cy1 eh
00:42 cy1 too late now I have to cook dinner.
00:43 VanessaE ao cook dinner and come back :-)
00:43 NekoGloop what time zone u in LOL
00:43 cy1 -800 I think?
00:43 cy1 it's almost 6pm
00:43 NekoGloop ah 2 hours behind me
00:44 NekoGloop (no wait 3)
00:44 cy1 west coast!
00:44 NekoGloop dammit, computer clock, y u never right
00:44 VanessaE 8:44pm here
00:44 NekoGloop I'm same as VanessaE
00:44 * VanessaE munches on cashew chicken over rice
00:44 * NekoGloop is eating his lip
00:44 NekoGloop damn I'm hungry
00:44 VanessaE so go eat
00:45 NekoGloop There's not a thing to eat in the house
00:45 VanessaE order in?
00:45 NekoGloop (at least nothing for a snack)
00:45 NekoGloop VanessaE: would except you need money for that.
00:45 VanessaE oh.
00:46 VanessaE well there's always ramen noodles, those are cheap enough anyway :-)
00:46 NekoGloop lol we have some
00:46 NekoGloop but those are for my lunch
00:46 VanessaE cook chicken flavor, drain thoroughly, combine noodles and seasoning with a little sour cream and some ground turkey
00:47 VanessaE = pseudo-stroganoff
00:47 VanessaE tastes pretty good, too
00:47 NekoGloop ew, sour cream
00:48 VanessaE oh no, believe me it works here.
00:48 NekoGloop 1) I dont like sour cream EVER
00:48 NekoGloop 2) We dont have any ;)
00:48 VanessaE have you ever even TRIED it?
00:48 NekoGloop YES
00:49 NekoGloop AND I DONT LIKE IT
00:49 VanessaE ok then you're allowed to turn your nose up at it :D
00:49 NekoGloop Taco Bell saw to that ;)
00:50 leo_rockway sour cream \o/
00:50 NekoGloop ew
00:50 VanessaE sour cream FTW :-)
00:51 NekoGloop Now I'm on the last material from moreores, silver,
00:51 leo_rockway Linux 3.5.2 \o/ my versionitis is pleased.
00:51 VanessaE there are six materials in moreores. :-)
00:52 NekoGloop (no I mean of tool making materials)
00:52 VanessaE gold, silver, copper, tin, mithril, bronze
00:52 NekoGloop copper and tin are for technic mod ;)
00:52 VanessaE I think all of those are used in moreores to make tools.
00:52 NekoGloop no copper and tin are not, they make bronze
00:52 VanessaE well not tin.
00:52 leo_rockway somebody mentioned they wanted to do a melting mod, to make bronze.
00:53 VanessaE right, shows how often I use it for tools :-)
00:53 leo_rockway I never remember nicks :S
00:53 NekoGloop I think you mean RBA, he's making an alloy furnace in technic mod
00:53 leo_rockway awesome
00:53 leo_rockway RBA is doing the two mods I mentioned today
00:53 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: kudos!
00:54 NekoGloop RBA only has one mod... right?
00:54 VanessaE dunno, think so
00:55 leo_rockway grinder and melting pot sounds good
00:55 NekoGloop yup he's only got one giant mod
00:55 NekoGloop unless he's got one he's not sharing
00:55 NekoGloop (which is VERY likely)
00:57 NekoGloop anyways: if anyone wants to give me a better large shovel image that would be VERY appreciated.
00:57 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZjRicA/screenshot_40521471.png you can see it in my inventory in this picture
00:58 NekoGloop (and yes I use the default textures)
00:58 NekoGloop (AND I KNOW THERE'S FREAKIN PAPYRUS IN THE BACKGROUND)
00:58 NekoGloop (and my monitor -is- widescreen)
00:59 NekoGloop (and I'm say too many things in parentheses)
00:59 VanessaE (looks at screenshot)
01:00 VanessaE 2d clouds?  no fancy leaves?  jeez
01:00 NekoGloop ... I try not to melt my computer
01:00 VanessaE fix your broke-ass video card ;D
01:00 NekoGloop just tell me what you think about the fifth item in my inventory, a large stone shovel
01:01 VanessaE looks okay to me
01:01 NekoGloop ok
01:01 NekoGloop just looks funny to me
01:01 VanessaE kinda hard to make it look any larger given the limit of the game, but it seems good
01:01 NekoGloop (and yes I know the tip of the pickaxe in my hand is rendering incorrectly)
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01:02 NekoGloop VanessaE: *cough*wield_scale={x=1.5,y=1.5,z=0}*cough*
01:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: I meant in the inventory :-)
01:02 NekoGloop oh well then idk
01:03 NekoGloop at least you can tell the 3 swords apart in 6, 7, and 8 spaces
01:03 NekoGloop normal, medium, and large respectively.
01:03 VanessaE I see someone has calinou's stairs-plus :-)
01:04 NekoGloop well those arent actually brick wall stairs
01:04 VanessaE oh :)
01:04 NekoGloop those are actually cobble floor stairs but I do have the mod
01:04 NekoGloop atlas is still glitching
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01:04 VanessaE disable the atlas then :-)
01:04 NekoGloop I did
01:06 NekoGloop idk
01:06 NekoGloop that workbench is actually 5x5 as well
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01:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: how are mesecons coming btw?
01:08 VanessaE getting good now :-)
01:08 VanessaE seen the new website, screenshots?
01:08 NekoGloop nope
01:08 NekoGloop please link
01:08 NekoGloop i didnt click when jeija linked it
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01:08 VanessaE http://mesecons.ohost.de/
01:09 VanessaE note it has an annoying popup.
01:09 VanessaE browse through the menu bar on top
01:09 VanessaE hey NF.
01:09 NekoGloop why in hell did I get a jewelry ad
01:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: because the host is cheapass :-)
01:09 VanessaE just close the ad
01:10 NekoGloop I did
01:10 NekoGloop some of those screenshots... just... wow.
01:10 VanessaE thanks :-)
01:11 NekoGloop I guess combination locks are impossibly easy with microcontrollers
01:11 VanessaE I see some new ones have been added
01:11 NakedFury a good point in favor of mesecons over redstone is that you dont have limits to how long a redstone line is
01:11 VanessaE exactly
01:11 NekoGloop not to mention microcontrollers
01:12 VanessaE that 8-bit full adder (with 9-bit output) uses microcontrollers to do the work, and no stupid stuff like repeaters :-)
01:12 VanessaE (bottom row, first and second images)
01:12 NekoGloop I made a music loop that changes part of its song every other repeat.
01:13 NekoGloop oh cool, someone made a circuit that makes lights turn on only at night.
01:14 NekoGloop oh neat someone made a player detector piston door. Like I already did.
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01:15 NakedFury I was talking about wires but yeah small stuff that remove the unnecesary repetion of stuff works too
01:15 NakedFury in minecraft its something like 8 or 9 before you need a torch
01:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: I made it.  for the sake of a screenshot :-)
01:16 NekoGloop I want those hi-res previews in the "items" tab to become a texture pack :D
01:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: they are :-)
01:16 VanessaE the textures in the current mod were directly derived from them
01:16 NekoGloop O.O
01:16 * VanessaE did that :-)
01:16 * NekoGloop WAAAAAAANT
01:16 NekoGloop actually no
01:16 VanessaE the mod uses a 16px version of the textures shown on the items page
01:17 NekoGloop minetest takes long enough to load as is
01:17 VanessaE else, get my photorealistic texture pack - it uses those images but even bigger :-)
01:17 NekoGloop I would get your texture pack if minetest would load in this century with it installed.
01:18 VanessaE on my box, minetest takes 30-60 seconds to load (depending on how many mods I have installed)
01:18 VanessaE with the 512px pack
01:18 NekoGloop P.S. the website's image should be a microcontroller, not the wire. Wire is big and ugly.
01:18 VanessaE so try the 64px size, it's fairly light
01:18 NekoGloop VanessaE: It already takes that long
01:18 NekoGloop course I have a sh*tload of mods
01:19 NekoGloop probably just technic + mesecons is half of that
01:19 VanessaE no
01:19 VanessaE it's the texture extrude routine
01:19 VanessaE it's a fucking dog.
01:19 NekoGloop lol
01:19 * NekoGloop hisses at the dog
01:19 VanessaE my install takes 2 or 3 seconds to start with 16px default textures.  It inflated to 35+ seconds with the 512px textures.
01:20 NekoGloop lol
01:20 VanessaE and if I install my full set of usual mods - 66 seconds (!)
01:20 VanessaE and this box is no slouch.
01:20 NekoGloop you must be running on practically vanilla minetest compared to me.
01:21 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/my-standard-set/
01:21 VanessaE animatedtorches, blox, bobblocks, coloredwood, cotton, doorsplus, drippingwater,
01:21 VanessaE flowers, homedecor, junglegrass, locked_sign, maptools, minetest-mod-mesecons,
01:21 VanessaE moreblocks, moreores, particles, pipeworks, poisonivy, signs, template, timber,
01:21 VanessaE unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, vessels, workbench, worldedit
01:21 NekoGloop what's what you run normally?
01:21 VanessaE I copy that whole tree over when I need to populate the mods folder.
01:22 VanessaE yup, that's what I run normally, that set takes ~66 seconds to start  up
01:22 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/mods/minetest/
01:22 VanessaE blox, bobblocks, cotton, doorsplus, drippingwater, flowers, homedecor,
01:22 VanessaE junglegrass, locked_sign, maptools, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores,
01:22 VanessaE neighbour, particles, pipeworks, poisonivy, signs, timber, unifieddyes, vessels,
01:22 VanessaE worldedit
01:22 VanessaE this set takes ~35 seconds.
01:22 NekoGloop ok, i dont usually use particles
01:22 NekoGloop why do you need locked_sign for singleplayer or is this a server?
01:22 VanessaE for testing.
01:23 NekoGloop Unifiedbricks is a freakin processor hog
01:23 NekoGloop as is blox
01:23 VanessaE when I add support to my texture pack for a mod, I install that mod to see how to use it, as well, and I leave it there if it doesn't take up much CPU or load time
01:23 VanessaE oh yeah
01:23 VanessaE like I said, c55's extrude routine is brain dead.
01:23 NekoGloop uhmm...
01:23 NekoGloop you have maptools AND worldedit?
01:24 VanessaE yep
01:24 NekoGloop arent those two the same thing in effect?
01:24 VanessaE not really
01:24 NekoGloop ooh, drippingwater
01:24 NekoGloop you wanna get rid of that
01:24 VanessaE maptools for testing again, worldedit because I find it useful :-)
01:24 NakedFury world edit got a huge rewrite by temperest or something
01:24 NekoGloop remove drippingwater and particles, you'll get increased loading again.
01:25 NekoGloop I'd wager at leat 20 seconds tops
01:25 VanessaE how do you figure?
01:26 NekoGloop well they're animation
01:26 NekoGloop animation = lots of graphic data being called
01:26 * VanessaE tries it.
01:26 NekoGloop and if you dont get faster loading you get faster running of the game.
01:27 VanessaE 38 seconds
01:27 VanessaE no appreciable difference.
01:27 NekoGloop ok
01:27 NekoGloop is the game running faster afterwards?
01:28 * NekoGloop sees timber mod
01:28 * NekoGloop smacks vanessae on the back of her head
01:28 NekoGloop CHEATER
01:28 VanessaE nope, no effect on speed.
01:29 NekoGloop -really-?
01:29 VanessaE those mods use the game's ability to move objects to do their animations
01:29 VanessaE they don't use animated textures.
01:29 NekoGloop removing animatedfluids and animatedtorches for me was a big help
01:29 NekoGloop dammit ninja'd
01:29 VanessaE those DO use animated textures.
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01:29 VanessaE but particles/dripping water do not.
01:30 NakedFury but they are so awesome
01:30 * NekoGloop still thinks that VanessaE is a cheater for using timber mod
01:30 NakedFury particles only affect when you mine or dig stuff
01:30 VanessaE again, it's for testing :-)
01:30 NekoGloop was*
01:30 * VanessaE restores her standard 66+ second configuration
01:30 NekoGloop now you are just cheating ;)
01:31 NakedFury well once a mod adds faster mining and woodcutting via special machinery, will that count as cheats?
01:31 NekoGloop no because you have to get the machinery
01:31 NekoGloop timber mod lets you knock a whole tree down with your bare hands
01:31 VanessaE besides, doesn't it seem odd that a tree can just "float" after you chop it in half? :-)
01:32 NekoGloop nope
01:32 NakedFury I use timber
01:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: Then what about flosting islands?
01:32 NakedFury just because minecraft has floating wood doesnt mean we have to have it like that
01:32 VanessaE I hate 'em.
01:32 NekoGloop NakedFury: CHEATER!!!
01:33 VanessaE granted I make use of a large floating stone slab in those screenshots, but that's because I wanted to be above the clouds
01:33 NekoGloop no timber mod is actually ripping off of minecraft as well
01:34 * NekoGloop is now adding gloopores textures
01:34 NakedFury I would sort of prefer for the tree wood to fall to the ground letting me cut it again instead of floating
01:35 NekoGloop NakedFury: Then make default:tree be in groups:{falling_node=1}
01:35 NekoGloop groups={falling_node=1}*
01:35 NakedFury or have wood and tree be part of falling group
01:35 NekoGloop no just tree
01:35 NakedFury yeah but then I would need some support block that could hold wood in place in a radius around it
01:35 NekoGloop i suppose that would call leafdecay prematurely though...
01:35 VanessaE someone was working on a minecraft mod to do that I think.  surely the same is easily done in minetest.
01:36 NekoGloop NakedFury: You -do- know that wood and tree are two seperate nodes, right?
01:36 NakedFury yes
01:36 NekoGloop therefore tree can be falling and not wood
01:37 NakedFury I have always wanted to try or play in a more real world scenario. everything has a chance to fall unless it has support
01:37 NekoGloop that's not entirely impossible
01:38 NekoGloop would need to edit the falling_node script though
01:38 NakedFury no just requires some intense coding
01:38 NekoGloop No, just a little bit of an edit to falling_node
01:38 VanessaE NakedFury: celeron55 said, basically, no fucking way
01:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: lolwat
01:38 NakedFury yeah celeron55 says no to a lot of things
01:39 NekoGloop he'd probably object to me being here, with my luck
01:39 NakedFury he wouldnt approve of you
01:39 NakedFury you are below him
01:39 NekoGloop well I dont want his approval
01:39 NakedFury if you dont have anything to contribute of good value you dont exist
01:39 NekoGloop of course I dont
01:40 leo_rockway I'd like for timber mod to only be enabled with a chainsaw tool
01:40 VanessaE a block should need something under it, or need something to X/Z sides to keep it held up, and anything more than say 10 blocks from a vertical support should collapse.
01:40 NakedFury ^^
01:40 NakedFury would forever change houses or mines
01:40 NakedFury or caves
01:40 VanessaE leo_rockway: on redcrab:30401 you need a mese axe
01:40 VanessaE (not a pick, but an axe)
01:40 NakedFury would make minetest stand more a part from its grandfather(minecraft)
01:41 leo_rockway VanessaE: sounds good to me
01:41 NekoGloop its grandfather is infiminer
01:41 NekoGloop ;)
01:41 NekoGloop (or however you spell it)
01:41 NakedFury both
01:41 leo_rockway what's the other MC-like free implementation?
01:41 leo_rockway it looks very pretty...
01:41 NakedFury infiniminer in its mothers side
01:42 leo_rockway I wanted to try it
01:42 NekoGloop NakedFury: but infiniminer gave way to minecraft, and thus minetest.
01:43 NekoGloop and each generation got better ;)
01:43 NakedFury and legos
01:44 NekoGloop so lego -> infiniminer -> minecraft -> minetest
01:45 NekoGloop with each generation better than the last ;)
01:46 NekoGloop I HAZ GWEEN TWOOLZ
01:46 NekoGloop :D
01:47 NekoGloop 1 more material to texture!!!!!
01:48 RealBadAngel there is one nice, in development, however not free
01:48 RealBadAngel http://blockscape.com/
01:48 RealBadAngel hi all
01:48 NekoGloop Damn, large arol tools are gonna last FOREVER
01:48 NekoGloop :D
01:49 NekoGloop good thing arol only generates at the same level as mese (if memory serves)
01:50 NekoGloop oh no, only below -20
01:50 NekoGloop ok then
01:50 NekoGloop keeping to the strucure I have inplace though
01:51 NekoGloop if I remember correctly I made the actual generation of them at a low percentage of spawning though
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01:52 NakedFury I have seen blockscape and I like it even if its a little slow in development
01:56 NekoGloop FINALLY
01:56 NekoGloop IM DONE WITH THE FERAKIN TEXTURES
01:56 NekoGloop now to actually code something
01:57 NekoGloop or "code" something (which means open up calculator and do a lot of math)
01:57 mrtux how often is celeron55 on this channel
01:57 NekoGloop very rarely to never
01:57 mrtux ah
01:57 NekoGloop try #minetest-dev
01:58 cornernote_ i been here a few months, never seen him here once
01:58 NekoGloop well I dont think he mingles with the asinine people in here
01:58 VanessaE he doesn't come here anymore
01:59 VanessaE too much activity, too many "distractions"
01:59 NekoGloop too much crap
01:59 VanessaE no
02:00 NekoGloop yes
02:00 VanessaE he's easily distracted apparently.
02:00 NekoGloop as am I
02:00 VanessaE enough so that he limits himself only to -dev now
02:00 NekoGloop Well if I were to be mentally capable to code something like minetest I would too :P
02:00 VanessaE and even then, strictly limits the topic of convo in that channel and will enforce it
02:01 NekoGloop well it's his channel
02:01 NekoGloop let him ban who he want
02:01 VanessaE I know.
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02:05 keegan hello
02:05 VanessaE hikeegan
02:06 keegan is there a way not to make a server lag with more than 5 people?
02:07 NekoGloop get a better computer
02:07 keegan get a better brain
02:08 VanessaE keegan: changing some of the server's settings can help, but most of it is in the server engine - c55 says he's going to try to fix that soon because it's a major CPU hog.
02:08 VanessaE (which in turn is why it lags, I'm sure)
02:09 VanessaE also, disable the anti-cheat setting, that'll help the apparent lag.
02:09 keegan where is that at? do you other settings?
02:10 VanessaE it's something you have to tweak in your minetest.conf
02:10 keegan like wat?
02:10 VanessaE I don't know off the top of my head, look in minetest.conf.example
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02:10 VanessaE all the settings you can plug into mintest.conf are in there.
02:11 VanessaE I'm pretty sure I saw a setting to disable anti-cheat.
02:11 keegan like wats some good ones?
02:11 VanessaE dunno, just play around with them, see what helps and what doesn't :-)
02:13 keegan whatbout this #full_block_send_enable_min_time_from_building = 2.0#dedicated_server_step = 0.05
02:13 VanessaE probably don't change the server step
02:13 VanessaE but the other I don't know about
02:13 keegan will it help?
02:14 VanessaE I don't know
02:14 sdzen ive changed the server step before it doesnt do much
02:14 sdzen a little boost but not much
02:14 keegan your the smart one
02:14 NekoGloop and I'm the baka!
02:14 keegan so sdzen how do you get your server lagg less
02:14 NekoGloop (baka = stupid/idiot in japanese)
02:15 * VanessaE <--- an ace with textures, decent with modding, stupid regarding server setup :-)
02:15 sdzen hehe :P
02:15 sdzen ive altered every setting in the conf
02:15 sdzen and some not in it
02:15 VanessaE is that like using "every trick in the book" (and some not)? :-)
02:16 sdzen mostly heightening the length of any client send
02:16 sdzen and shortening distances
02:16 keegan sdzen how to make ur server faster and not laggy
02:16 sdzen dont have many mods
02:16 VanessaE keegan: seriosuly, the problem is in the program - changing your settings arne't going to help that much
02:16 NekoGloop he used all the tricks in the book, and then some ;)
02:16 VanessaE the only real solution until c55 fixes the CPU usage is better hardware :(
02:17 sdzen mine is a example of how the server is uber lagged by a stupidly ridiculous amount of mods
02:17 NekoGloop no yours is just awesomesauce
02:17 NekoGloop :D
02:17 keegan only have 20 mos
02:17 keegan mods
02:17 VanessaE I have 26 mods in my local install, ~3000 defined nodes among them all :-)
02:17 NekoGloop and try to limit it to 5 abms
02:17 keegan abms?
02:18 VanessaE Automatic Block Modifier
02:18 NekoGloop VanessaE: 1) Creative mode 2) ... 3) Profit
02:18 VanessaE it's what mods do to make periodic changes to some blocks, like spawning flowers or junglegrass
02:18 keegan uhh yea how doi do that
02:19 VanessaE you have to learn the modding language and API to make use of them.
02:19 VanessaE take a look at my flowers mod (or ironzorg's old one)
02:19 VanessaE it has a pretty routine usage of abms
02:19 NekoGloop and since lua_api.txt is worth sh*t atm you cant really learn the API easily
02:19 VanessaE should be easy to understand
02:20 keegan wat about madchicken texture pack?
02:20 NekoGloop dont use it
02:20 keegan y
02:20 sdzen it give no marked increase in preformance
02:20 NekoGloop madchicken == griefer on servers... you think he cares enough to virusscan uploaded files?
02:21 NekoGloop (i dont virusscan either just because I am certain I have no viruses)
02:21 sdzen viruses dont attack me
02:21 sdzen im not sure i dont have any though
02:21 NekoGloop lol
02:21 keegan anything in the world flodderi have to change?
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02:22 NekoGloop I'm sure because all of the harddrive I have is accounted for.
02:22 bulletrulz hello
02:22 NekoGloop (the usage of the harddrive)
02:22 sdzen ello
02:22 bulletrulz can someone upload a minetest deb for me lol
02:22 bulletrulz i swithced to ubuntu
02:22 VanessaE bulletrulz: just built it from sources.
02:23 VanessaE under ubuntu it's quick and painless
02:23 VanessaE build*
02:23 bulletrulz while VanessaE its easier to just .deb it
02:24 VanessaE keegan: changes in texture packs will only affect the clients' performance, not the server's
02:24 bulletrulz but ok VanessaE do u mind uploading the source for me?
02:24 VanessaE bulletrulz: because everyone's system is a little difference, and because unless you get the nightly builds PPA, whatever you get will probably be slightly outdated.
02:24 VanessaE the source is on github,.
02:25 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L81
02:25 bulletrulz VanessaE cause i have a tether thing that wont let me go on https sites im bulletrul
02:25 VanessaE start here.
02:25 VanessaE oh that's right, I forgot about that.
02:25 keegan is a thing for servers in github
02:25 bulletrulz yeah
02:25 VanessaE how do you do online banking then?
02:25 sdzen maybe he doesnt bank online
02:25 sdzen XD
02:26 bulletrulz sdzen why does everybody say that lol im 13
02:26 bulletrulz i dont bank online xD
02:26 VanessaE that would be the reason :-)
02:26 NekoGloop lol
02:26 VanessaE bulletrulz: ok in that case, just go install the nightly builds repository
02:26 bulletrulz VanessaE HOW>
02:26 VanessaE open a terminal
02:27 bulletrulz im in one
02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get remove minetest  (or minetestc55, whatever it is you have now)
02:27 bulletrulz lol using bitch x
02:27 bulletrulz i dont have any minetest lol
02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get update
02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get install minetestc55
02:27 bulletrulz bitchx is a irc client
02:27 VanessaE I'ved used bitchx before.
02:28 bulletrulz yes
02:28 VanessaE used to be the one I relied on most.
02:28 VanessaE since switched to xchat.
02:28 VanessaE anyway, run those last three commands.
02:28 keegan is there anything in github for servers??
02:29 VanessaE that'll get you the very latest minetest built from whatever's at the top of git master on a given day.
02:29 bulletrulz well i did it and pressed enter but its not doing anything>
02:29 NekoGloop YES NOW SHUT UP AND LOOK FOR IT
02:29 VanessaE keegan: I don't understand the question.
02:29 VanessaE bulletrulz: which command did you run?
02:29 keegan like solutions
02:29 bulletrulz althe respitory
02:29 VanessaE bulletrulz: it should have given you some output describing the repository and asking if you really want to ad dit
02:30 keegan for like solution for lags
02:30 VanessaE keegan: your best bet is to search the forums, I'm sure others there have solved some of the issue.
02:30 bulletrulz VanessaE it doesent can u just gice me the .deb
02:30 NakedFury keegan that will keep happening unless you have a really good computer or really really fast connection(Not sure about this one)
02:30 VanessaE keegan: but as I told you, the problem is in the game.
02:31 NakedFury and that
02:31 VanessaE bulletrulz: try again.  this is how you get a deb for your system,.
02:31 cornernote_ minetest.item_place_node(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing) <<--- what is pointed thing?  a node/pos/other ??
02:31 NakedFury the game is still in a sort of beta state or even alpha
02:31 keegan people say my internet is the best
02:31 bulletrulz VanessaE lol but its eaiser on the thing
02:31 VanessaE cornernote_: I think the coordinates.
02:31 VanessaE bulletrulz: just do it :-)
02:31 bulletrulz l :D
02:32 VanessaE sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
02:32 bulletrulz i have 11.04
02:32 VanessaE you should see some gibberish about gpg keys
02:32 bulletrulz VanessaE nope
02:33 VanessaE what exactly did it do?
02:33 cornernote_ why are all the global callbacks being depricated ?
02:33 bulletrulz is just blinking doing nothing
02:33 cornernote_ minetest.register_on_placenode(func(pos, newnode, placer, oldnode))  <--- Deprecated: Use on_construct or after_place_node in node definition instead
02:33 VanessaE bulletrulz: what do you mean "it's just blinking"?
02:33 cornernote_ but on_construct for a node is a VERY different thing to a global after_place_node
02:33 keegan is 54mb/s good?????
02:33 VanessaE cornernote_: change for the sake of change it sometimes seems.
02:34 keegan for internet
02:34 bulletrulz VanessaE ita nor doing anything
02:34 VanessaE keegan: that's your wireless speed.
02:34 keegan yea
02:34 VanessaE keegan: but I can almost guarantee you that your internet connection isn't that fast in reality
02:34 bulletrulz cornernote_ can u give me the link to the source agian
02:34 VanessaE more likely it's less than 10 Mbps
02:35 keegan will wired help?
02:35 NakedFury https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
02:35 VanessaE keegan: unlikely.  your internet speed is limited to whatever your ISP allows.
02:35 VanessaE keegan: that is, whatever your parents pay for
02:35 cornernote_ bulletrulz - http://cornernote.net/minetest
02:35 bulletrulz no cornernote_ can u upload it agian
02:35 keegan alot money
02:35 bulletrulz ty cornernote_
02:36 VanessaE keegan: it is not liekly very fast, most people don't do for the high-end, super-fast internet.
02:36 VanessaE bulletrulz: if you were using an AMD64 box I could upload my build, otherwise you'll have to hit the sources.
02:37 bulletrulz i use i386
02:37 keegan we try to get better connection but it says 54mb/s but theres lile 20 other things thats on it also
02:37 NekoGloop hOLY SHIT
02:37 NekoGloop chair just fell D:
02:37 keegan way
02:37 keegan t
02:37 keegan wat
02:37 bulletrulz NekoGloop ?
02:37 VanessaE keegan: that's wireless speed.  you will not get above 54 Mbps, period.
02:38 bulletrulz lol
02:38 NekoGloop the chair i was sitting on
02:38 VanessaE that's simply how fast wireless is.
02:38 NekoGloop I think the noise it made scared me more than the falling itself did
02:38 bulletrulz NekoGloop lolz
02:38 keegan will wired connection help??
02:39 VanessaE keegan: I already said no, it won't.
02:39 NekoGloop u kidding me?
02:39 VanessaE keegan: you have to talk to your parents to get faster internet.  that's the only way you'll get more speed out of that part of your system,
02:39 NekoGloop my psp gets more than that.
02:40 keegan you sure i think when i plug in wired connection it goes upto 100mb/s
02:40 VanessaE keegan:  Once you get a faster internet feed, then wired vs. wireless starts to be an issue
02:40 VanessaE but that's only the speed between your laptop and your router.  That is NOT your internet speed.
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02:41 sdzen what does /ignore do?
02:41 VanessaE keegan: let me give you a practical example:
02:41 keegan ok
02:41 sdzen does it do anything?
02:41 VanessaE keegan: my husband's computer is connected to mine through a wired connection.  It has a speed of 1 Gbps (1000 Mbps, 10 times the speed of your wired connection).   However, our internet speed is only 12 Mbps.
02:42 VanessaE keegan: so no matter how fast my husband's computer can send and receive, the best he'll ever get is the 12 Mbps that we pay for.  Same for my computer.
02:42 keegan werid
02:42 VanessaE keegan: nope, not weird at all.  that's how networking is.
02:43 VanessaE this is normal.
02:43 cy1 back
02:43 bulletrulz how to install it
02:44 NekoGloop LOOK BEHIND YOU!!!
02:44 NekoGloop IT'S SLENDERMAN!!!
02:44 keegan you push install
02:44 bulletrulz minetest lol
02:44 VanessaE bulletrulz: is it source or .deb ?
02:44 keegan you put it somewhere and it extracts itself
02:44 bulletrulz VanessaE source
02:45 VanessaE keegan: doesn't work that way on linux.
02:45 keegan does for me
02:45 VanessaE bulletrulz: extract the archive, then read the README starting at line 81
02:45 keegan why do u read readme
02:45 VanessaE keegan: most linux users use the command line to manage their system
02:46 keegan i dont
02:46 VanessaE keegan: because he is about to compile minetest from the source code.  What he has is not a program execuatable.
02:46 VanessaE executable*
02:47 keegan wat does compling do??
02:47 VanessaE keegan: that's how programs are created.
02:47 keegan so??
02:47 VanessaE keegan: you write your code in a text editor, then put what you wrote into a compiler
02:47 VanessaE keegan: the result is an executable program
02:47 bulletrulz it says i have to install cmake
02:47 keegan ok s
02:48 VanessaE bulletrulz: README, line 71.  there's an apt-get install command there.
02:48 VanessaE bulletrulz: use that to get all the dependencies installed.
02:48 keegan so wat does it even do??
02:48 VanessaE keegan: what does what do?
02:48 keegan compling
02:48 VanessaE keegan: that's how you turn the code you wrote into an executable program.
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02:48 bulletrulz but when i try sudo apt-get install cmake
02:48 bulletrulz ik it doesent install
02:48 VanessaE the code you write in a text editor cannot run by itself
02:49 NekoGloop makes an .exe or .app or whatever linux executables are.
02:49 VanessaE bulletrulz: README, line 71.  there's an apt-get install command there.
02:49 VanessaE bulletrulz: use that to get all the dependencies installed.
02:49 keegan does it make a differentence ?
02:49 VanessaE keegan: yes.  without compiling, most programs cannot run.
02:49 bulletrulz Reading package lists... Done
02:49 bulletrulz Building dependency tree
02:49 bulletrulz Reading state information... Done
02:49 bulletrulz Package cmake is not available, but is referred to by another package.
02:49 bulletrulz This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
02:49 bulletrulz is only available from another source
02:49 bulletrulz E: Package 'cmake' has no installation candidate
02:49 bulletrulz poo
02:49 keegan ahh thats why i can run 0.4.2 r1
02:50 VanessaE bulletrulz: maybeyou need to turn on some additional repositories e.g. universe, multiverse, partners, etc.
02:50 leo_rockway apt-cache search cmake
02:50 VanessaE keegan: basically yeah
02:50 bulletrulz then i need a deb lol
02:50 VanessaE bulletrulz: without the dependencies, the game won't run
02:50 bulletrulz someone can u upload a deb to mediafire for me
02:50 leo_rockway also, if you do enable other repos, you need to run sudo apt-get update
02:51 keegan can i do it on linux and transfer it to a windows??
02:51 VanessaE bulletrulz: a deb is useless without all of the programs it depends on also.
02:51 VanessaE keegan: no.
02:51 keegan :( that sucks
02:51 VanessaE keegan: windows requires a completely different type of program code; minetest can be compiled to run on windows, but not without a LOT of headaches apparently.,
02:51 cy1 thw?
02:51 NekoGloop g'night
02:51 cy1 bulletrulz: cmake should absolutely be there. Have you updated recently apt-get update?
02:52 bulletrulz VanessaE i have the dependicies can someone upload it for me
02:52 leo_rockway VanessaE: it seems that without sound it's not too complicated.
02:52 NekoGloop GOOD NIGHT
02:52 keegan window is harf to do
02:52 VanessaE night NekoGloop
02:52 leo_rockway NekoGloop: \ø
02:52 keegan hard*
02:52 cy1 NekoGloop: GO BACK TO BED GARFIELD >:(
02:52 VanessaE bulletrulz: what version of ubuntu did you say this was?
02:53 sdzen me thinks 1.0
02:53 sdzen :P
02:53 bulletrulz VanessaE i use 11.04
02:53 keegan windows is pain in da butt to do
02:53 VanessaE bulletrulz: why 11.04?  12.04 has been out since April.
02:53 bulletrulz because i had it downloadded
02:54 leo_rockway is that natty?
02:54 VanessaE you should upgrade, but that aside, cmake should still be there anyway
02:54 VanessaE leo_rockway: it is.
02:54 leo_rockway http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/cmake <--- cmake is right there
02:54 leo_rockway I mean, you're doing something wrong
02:54 VanessaE wait
02:54 VanessaE I think I know
02:54 leo_rockway did you do apt-get update yet?
02:54 VanessaE that stupid ssl/https restriction
02:54 keegan Will you help me do window compling tommorrow
02:54 bulletrulz it will be easier if someone just uploaded a deb please
02:55 VanessaE I think you need ssl to fetch patckes
02:55 VanessaE packages
02:55 leo_rockway bulletrulz: that wouldn't work. You'll need the dependencies of cmake as well.
02:55 keegan who knows how to co
02:55 keegan complie on windows
02:55 cy1 Once you do "apt-get update", then just "apt-get install cmake" should work...
02:55 * bulletrulz i mean the deb of minetest please?
02:55 cy1 LOL the deb of minetest
02:55 cy1 cmake && make && make install
02:56 cy1 that's all
02:56 VanessaE no!
02:56 VanessaE don't make install
02:56 cy1 actually the make install part is
02:56 cy1 yeah
02:56 VanessaE checkinstall
02:56 cy1 just ./bin/minetest
02:56 bulletrulz FUCK THE WORLD
02:56 keegan that what i say to
02:56 cy1 you need cmake. Then you do cmake && make
02:56 VanessaE bulletrulz: who made this https restriction?
02:56 cy1 Then it's made.
02:56 * bulletrulz pulls out a ak and goes and kills people wathcing batman
02:56 bulletrulz VanessaE the guy who made the tether app
02:56 cy1 good thing I only watch my little pony
02:56 leo_rockway VanessaE: he's tethering
02:56 VanessaE cy1: cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
02:56 VanessaE or =1
02:57 leo_rockway he's browsing through a proxy
02:57 cy1 VanessaE: why don't the defaults work? >:(
02:57 VanessaE bulletrulz: why are you tethering instead of just going through a normal wired connection?
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02:57 sdzen fim or a earlier one cy1?
02:57 VanessaE cy1: dunno, but that's what c55 says to do.
02:57 keegan good noght gonna complie windows minetrst tommorrow
02:57 cy1 sdzen: SHOOP BE DOOP
02:57 bulletrulz VanessaE i dont have one im tethering from my droid
02:57 VanessaE so get one? :-)
02:58 VanessaE you're 13 you said?
02:58 cy1 bulletrulz: RUN_IN_PLACE means if you want to run it from the build directory, or install it as root or somethin
02:58 bulletrulz yes
02:58 VanessaE who pays for the cell phone?
02:58 cy1 it's really not necessary
02:58 bulletrulz no
02:58 cy1 just cmake && make && make install
02:58 bulletrulz my parents do
02:58 cy1 ...
02:58 cy1 just cmake && make
02:58 keegan good night
02:58 bulletrulz i do chores
02:58 cy1 I keep forgetting make install is borked
02:58 VanessaE bulletrulz: they pay for a cell phone but not a regular internet connection?
02:58 cy1 VanessaE: it's more likely than you think...
02:58 VanessaE cy1: No!  don't make install.
02:58 leo_rockway why not make install?
02:59 cy1 I dunno!
02:59 bulletrulz i have a girl friend and friends i need  phone
02:59 bulletrulz a
02:59 leo_rockway I use the AUR PKGBUILD
02:59 cy1 I think it like... just doesn't work or something.
02:59 VanessaE cy1: when did they change the rules?  it always used to be that you should not tether
02:59 cy1 aur <3
02:59 keegan bye gtg to bed
02:59 leo_rockway keegan: \ø
02:59 * bulletrulz jumps of a clif
02:59 cy1 VanessaE: tether? wtf are you talkin about
02:59 VanessaE leo_rockway: because if you make install you can't just apt-get remove or similar
02:59 cy1 well yeah
02:59 leo_rockway oh, I see
02:59 cy1 you use rm
02:59 VanessaE cy1: bulletrulz uses a cellphone tethered to his computer
02:59 cy1 rm /usr/local/bin/minetest*
02:59 leo_rockway some Makefiles offer make uninstall
03:00 cy1 a...cellphone...tethered...
03:00 bulletrulz ahhhh can someone please upload a deb for me please?
03:00 vicscandl cd minetest;git pull;cd games/minetest_game;git pull;cd ../..;cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1;make -j2
03:00 * cy1 falls over twitching
03:00 VanessaE cy1: and /usr/local/share {various bits}
03:00 * sdzen pokes cy1 with a stick
03:00 sdzen hes dead jim
03:00 leo_rockway bulletrulz: I'm not on a Debian based distro...
03:00 leo_rockway and I'm not going to install dpkg now o.0
03:00 VanessaE I can't because I run AMD64
03:00 * bulletrulz jumps off a cliff and land on a spiky thing
03:00 * vicscandl cracks open a beer he has not had before...
03:00 VanessaE (and what I built will likely not work on your box)
03:01 cy1 bulletrulz: there is no deb. There's a build script for Arch, but not for Debian or Ubuntu. Most people just build the source. Using cmake && make
03:01 cy1 VanessaE: you could still make the deb-src  :p but w/ev
03:01 VanessaE bulletrulz: you NEED to fix the https restriction or your ubuntu install will fail you
03:01 VanessaE cy1: how?  he can't seem to apt-get install from a repos either.
03:01 VanessaE no ssl
03:01 leo_rockway why do the repos need ssl?
03:02 cy1 WHY you using literal phone based Internets it is NOT 1978 ANYMORE! ;_;
03:02 VanessaE leo_rockway: it's just a guess, but you know how security-conscious linux distros are anymore
03:02 leo_rockway mhm
03:02 vicscandl cy1: because his mom turned off his cable modem due to too much pr0n watching....
03:02 VanessaE hahahaha!\
03:02 cy1 VanessaE: actually most apt repositories are just http... they do the package signing using gpg AS IT SHOULD BE
03:02 sdzen 1978? i thought it was 1940!
03:03 leo_rockway to systemd or not to systemd, that is the daily drama.
03:03 vicscandl cy1: github uses https, for security
03:03 sdzen where am I?
03:03 VanessaE cy1: well there must be SOME ssl connection in there somewhere
03:03 bulletrulz vicscandl i dont watch porn all the time lol jk i dont but cmake wont install on 11.04
03:03 cy1 vicscandl: ur mom turned off his cable modem due to too much pr0n watching!
03:04 bulletrulz lol
03:04 cy1 cmake is needed, since minetest uses cmake not "autotools" also known as "Satan's favorite configure system."
03:04 vicscandl bulletrulz: cmake won't install on 11.04; no, you failed to install and setup your dev toolchain properly
03:04 cy1 vicscandl: toolchain? How do you do that?
03:04 vicscandl my 9 year old can compile minetest, whats your issue?
03:04 vicscandl he was able to follow the readme and do just fine
03:04 cy1 thought apt-get install cmake would install dependencies... even if they're a toolchain...
03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
03:05 cy1 vicscandl: It's because he has such an amazing parent. It enables him to be unnaturally gifted at age 9.
03:05 bulletrulz vicscandl i cant get cmake
03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
03:06 VanessaE THERE.  READ!
03:06 bulletrulz VanessaE ok
03:06 sdzen you spelled it wrong its RAED!
03:06 sdzen dont you know your ABS's?
03:06 VanessaE sorry to sound nasty but it royally pisses me off when someone asks for help and then fails to read thoroughly that which they are told.
03:07 VanessaE sdzen: I don't know my ABS's because I'm used to old cars that lack ABS :D
03:07 sdzen I see
03:07 * VanessaE <-- consummate smartass :D
03:08 bulletrulz http://pastebin.com/ff7WqMtK
03:08 bulletrulz VanessaE ^
03:08 VanessaE reading...
03:08 * sdzen <-- communist smartass
03:08 VanessaE no backports or partners, but that sources.list should work
03:09 VanessaE bulletrulz: sudo apt-get update
03:09 bulletrulz ok
03:09 VanessaE does any of ^^ that error out?
03:09 VanessaE wait
03:09 bulletrulz well i just installed so lol i should do that
03:09 VanessaE why do you have repos from lucid in there?
03:10 VanessaE (lines 59, 60)
03:10 leo_rockway that's were manually added
03:10 leo_rockway (PPA)
03:10 vicscandl VanessaE: /win 5
03:10 vicscandl hahahah
03:10 vicscandl that was lame
03:10 VanessaE leo_rockway: sure I get that--but he runs natty
03:10 leo_rockway those were*
03:10 leo_rockway yes, I know
03:11 cy1 yes apt-get update should be done every month or so
03:11 VanessaE lucid is two versions behind, he shouldn't be using repos that far from current
03:11 cy1 then apt-get dist-upgrade
03:11 leo_rockway I'm pointing out that he added them himself... he accidentally the whole sources.list
03:11 cy1 or use that Ubuntu graphical package manager thingy
03:11 * vicscandl moves VanessaE over to window 32
03:12 leo_rockway also, I don't know why he needs a PPA for globalmenu, since globalmenu is in by default in Unity...
03:12 leo_rockway at least that's what I think
03:12 VanessaE leo_rockway: natty predates unity :-)
03:12 leo_rockway oh, okay
03:12 leo_rockway Oneiric?
03:12 * VanessaE uses Precise
03:12 VanessaE but yeah I think it came up in Oneric.
03:12 leo_rockway I use Arch testing... bleeding edge
03:12 VanessaE Oneiric
03:13 VanessaE inb4 harshlinux comments
03:13 leo_rockway I've been reading about the systemd drama most of the day
03:13 vicscandl my advise to all: run a bootable thumbstick that has a properly updated gcc/gcc++ toolset
03:14 VanessaE bulletrulz: at any rate, your system is broken and we can't fix it over this venue.
03:14 VanessaE bulletrulz: go download a copy of 12.04 "Precise"
03:15 VanessaE burn it to a CD or DVD, wipe out your existing install, put that in instead
03:15 VanessaE natty is old and unsupported anyway
03:15 vicscandl VanessaE: thank you v, this is for minetest; not your INABILITY to install linux....
03:15 VanessaE heh
03:15 vicscandl go join #linuxkernel-dev... ask there... hahahah
03:16 leo_rockway I'd rather fight Mike Tyson while I'm wearing handcuffs.
03:17 vicscandl i'm waiting to get bashed in #minetest-dev... if c55 would ever show up so i can pick on him
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03:22 vicscandl beer selection for this evening: http://imgur.com/9QAM6
03:23 VanessaE heh
03:23 VanessaE beer, ick
03:23 VanessaE gimme the hard stuff instead :-)
03:24 vicscandl i'm off the hard stuff; having no more than 48oz of beer a day.
03:24 VanessaE I only drink twice a year anyway :-)
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03:25 * mrtux is away: going to bed
03:25 vicscandl ok v, i've got two tickets to close for work and then i've got a couple more tests for you...
03:26 VanessaE oh boy..
03:26 VanessaE :)
03:27 * VanessaE watches over vicscandl's shoulder...  "[wontfix]".....  "[notabug]".....
03:27 VanessaE ;)
03:27 vicscandl not sure if they are removing cycles, but i'm looking at some def improvement again to memory handling
03:27 VanessaE oh good
03:27 bulletrulz k i can get cmake now
03:27 vicscandl perhaps 3 more line changes today will warrant another 5-10%
03:27 leo_rockway [cantreplicate]
03:28 VanessaE or wait, c55's favorite,
03:28 VanessaE "[low-priority-enhancement]"
03:28 vicscandl my fixes are not related to anything in general... more like making sure the c++ is coded correctly
03:28 VanessaE ^^ memory usage bug I filed a while back.
03:28 vicscandl VanessaE: what sucks... well.. i'll keep my mouth shut for now... heheheh
03:29 VanessaE come on, spit it out :-)
03:29 NakedFury go viscandl go!
03:29 VanessaE there, half the channel just split off, now it's safe ! :-0
03:29 VanessaE :-)
03:29 vicscandl i'll say this.. learn to use the "blame" button on github
03:29 leo_rockway oh, I have parts and joins hidden... netsplit!
03:31 leo_rockway wow... PilzAdam really took this weed thing seriously
03:31 leo_rockway they are everywhere
03:33 * vicscandl smokes some medicine and gets to closing real work tickets so he can play...
03:33 bulletrulz got the same erorr agian
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03:36 bulletrulz can someone tell me the dependicies what r they
03:36 leo_rockway they are in the readme
03:36 NakedFury doesnt Ubuntu market something place have a minetest to download?
03:36 leo_rockway NakedFury: not git.
03:36 bulletrulz nvm
03:37 VanessaE bullet, install the nightly builds repo.
03:37 VanessaE the PPA I told you about
03:37 VanessaE if that doesn't work, your internet connection is blocking you
03:37 VanessaE in which case you SOL
03:37 leo_rockway oh, I didn't know there was a PPA
03:37 bulletrulz VanessaE lol i aready got the source
03:37 vicscandl VanessaE: i wonder if he is running linux in vmware on windows....
03:38 vicscandl VanessaE: *and* tethered to the internets via cell
03:44 NakedFury wish celeron55 informed his loyal fan base of hiatuses and vacations
03:45 leo_rockway maybe if his loyal fan base paid his vacations...
03:45 NakedFury just a simple Forum post saying Vacation: taking a break for ## time or whatever
03:45 NakedFury just so we know he didnt give up
03:46 leo_rockway there was an update recently
03:46 leo_rockway August 13th
03:47 leo_rockway 4 days ago: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
03:47 leo_rockway check the age
03:47 bulletrulz k its making
03:48 NakedFury write down all the steps you had to make for that bulletman
03:48 vicscandl leo_rockway: there are updates constantly
03:48 leo_rockway mhm
03:48 vicscandl leo_rockway: just wait till i get in contact with c55
03:48 leo_rockway I git pull every day to check for changes
03:49 leo_rockway but NakedFury seemed concerned that there weren't updates
03:49 NakedFury yeah sorry didnt check that
03:49 NakedFury im more concerned that he never chats with us
03:49 NakedFury not even a HI
03:49 leo_rockway why are you concerned?
03:50 NakedFury well if I was a developer and actually had interested players I would chat with them
03:50 NakedFury not necessarily of game stuff
03:50 NakedFury but of trivial stuff too
03:50 leo_rockway maybe he doesn't care about us at all
03:50 leo_rockway and that's fine
03:50 khonkhortisan the 49 luaentity per block limit is hardcoded. I can't just add a variable to increase it.
03:50 NakedFury ohh anybody saw The Avengers? I thought it was great = example
03:51 leo_rockway maybe he's autistic and he's coding minetest for his own entertainment
03:51 khonkhortisan I just saw it
03:51 khonkhortisan it was good until the guy with the red head
03:51 leo_rockway and he thinks we're all just stupid o.0
03:51 NakedFury what is that 49 entity stuff about?
03:51 khonkhortisan there should have been more storyline. How did he learn how to bounce the shield?
03:52 NakedFury im lost khonk, what red head guy?
03:52 NakedFury im really lost here
03:52 khonkhortisan I'm making rain and it all disappears when I get more than 49 in a block when I use luaentities.
03:52 leo_rockway RAIN!
03:52 khonkhortisan oh I meant I saw captain america
03:52 NakedFury ohh
03:52 leo_rockway snow biome with snow falling would be neat
03:52 khonkhortisan rain is very difficult to do
03:53 NakedFury could rain be added as particles?
03:53 khonkhortisan either you're limited to a light drizzle using luaentities or it falls very jumpily with nodes
03:53 khonkhortisan particles ARE luaentities
03:53 NakedFury ohh
03:53 khonkhortisan I went with particles :)
03:53 NakedFury so there needs to be something else in place for weather effects
03:53 khonkhortisan there needs to be something that's not a node and not an entity
03:55 khonkhortisan now I can understand that there would be a limit to how many mobs you can have in a block, but why delete every last one of them when it goes over the limit instead of just deleting the overflow?
03:59 khonkhortisan I want to see thor and all the others before seeing the avengers
03:59 NakedFury all the movies building up to Avengers?
03:59 khonkhortisan yep. I saw the first avenger already.
03:59 NakedFury Iron Man 1, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America
03:59 khonkhortisan captain america was first
04:00 NakedFury you can try the last Hulk
04:00 NakedFury then the new Spider Man
04:00 khonkhortisan oh yeah they have a new character now I forgot
04:00 leo_rockway brb
04:00 leo_rockway oops
04:00 leo_rockway well, I guess you guys wanted to know I'll brb o.o0
04:00 leo_rockway o.0*
04:01 khonkhortisan you meant to brb on the other channel?
04:01 leo_rockway my gf
04:01 NakedFury then maybe next year Iron Man 3, Thor 2, maybe Avenger 2 2014 with some other heroes
04:02 NakedFury then switch over to DC Comics as they make a new Superman, perhaps start a new trilogy of Batman with robin or nitghwing(or whatever other bat thingy) maybe try flash or something to build up for Justice League
04:03 cornernote_ im having a problem.. maybe someone has some ideas...  i have a void world, when you join a home location is selected, and asingle node is created... the problem is that the node is created too late, i have already started falling
04:03 NakedFury try teleporting the player a few blocks above the node? could that help
04:03 khonkhortisan create the node a safe falling distance unde
04:04 khonkhortisan ...r
04:04 bulletrulz NakedFury dont we have iron man 3
04:04 khonkhortisan spiderman is up to four, right?
04:04 NakedFury not yet bullet, maybe next year
04:05 NakedFury yeah 4 spider mans but the new one is a restart of the series
04:05 NakedFury the character doesnt produce the web, its more like the comic character
04:05 khonkhortisan so they have to go through the hey this is cool I have spider powers thing again
04:06 bulletrulz khonkhortisan they restarted the seris
04:06 NakedFury its done fast and okay
04:06 NakedFury I like this version more than the other spiderman 1 movie
04:07 khonkhortisan how can you have spiderman if he's not tarzan?
04:07 NakedFury also they have a totally beautiful hot gwen instead of mary jane
04:08 * vicscandl implores you to go to #spiderman or something...
04:08 khonkhortisan I never know what will be a real channel and what won't
04:08 leo_rockway channels get generated when you join
04:08 leo_rockway o.o
04:08 vicscandl spiderman mod == cool; spiderman movie != cool;
04:09 NakedFury okay we will talk about minetest
04:09 khonkhortisan um I think you mean ~= cool
04:09 NakedFury so what would you think on a new name for minetest?
04:09 khonkhortisan minecreate
04:09 vicscandl khonkhortisan: no, i'm working on the c++, its !=
04:09 khonkhortisan minebore
04:09 khonkhortisan mineyours
04:09 NakedFury OpenMine? LibreVoxelianMine?
04:09 vicscandl ok, i got it
04:10 leo_rockway infiniminetest
04:10 vicscandl voxeLand
04:10 leo_rockway boxen
04:10 khonkhortisan mineymine
04:10 khonkhortisan boxen is the correct plural form of box
04:10 NakedFury VoxMiner
04:10 khonkhortisan ox oxen box boxes | ox oxes box boxen
04:11 khonkhortisan MINtEract
04:12 khonkhortisan minerator
04:12 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: boxen is the plural of box when talking about a unix box.
04:12 khonkhortisan I haven't heard that before
04:12 leo_rockway unices, boxen...
04:12 khonkhortisan then when do you say oxes?
04:12 leo_rockway usually irregular plurals are a hacker thing, for some reason
04:12 leo_rockway like virus, virii
04:13 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: if an ox were part of the hacking ecosystem...
04:16 khonkhortisan anyone else is welcome to try to make rain
04:17 khonkhortisan haha cloud produces rain, evilcloud produces lava rain. That's an idea. Then you'll have to avoid raindrops
04:18 VanessaE that's nekogloop's department :-)
04:18 VanessaE ("evil" stuff)
04:18 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmmmmm lava rain...
04:18 vicscandl i like it, just be sure to make it configurable please
04:20 NakedFury major forest fires and lag
04:22 vicscandl NakedFury: working on that senior. :)
04:25 bulletrulz minetest WORKS! :d
04:25 bulletrulz D
04:25 bulletrulz ;d
04:25 bulletrulz :D
04:25 VanessaE woo!
04:25 VanessaE so how did you get it going?
04:27 bulletrulz VanessaE got cmake then got dependieces anyway anyway to make it faster fps is 10
04:27 VanessaE use a lower-resolution texture pack, or get a better video card :-/
04:27 khonkhortisan press -
04:28 VanessaE also press - to turn your view distance down
04:28 VanessaE hah!
04:28 leo_rockway yes, press - until it goes down to 5
04:28 VanessaE but,
04:28 khonkhortisan I win
04:28 VanessaE you will need to restart the game after you do that
04:28 VanessaE otherwise it will ignore you (!) after a while
04:28 khonkhortisan I didn't know that
04:28 bulletrulz ty
04:28 leo_rockway I never had to
04:28 VanessaE it's stupid
04:29 VanessaE the "I want X fps" setting takes precedence over the view distance under some circumstances, particularly if you've already been wandering around with a higher distance and you turn it down
04:29 khonkhortisan haha pistons+stairs=elevator
04:29 vicscandl bulletrulz: what kind of hardware you run?
04:29 VanessaE khonkhortisan: screenshot?
04:29 khonkhortisan video
04:29 khonkhortisan not mt though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPryYxk0t9A&amp;feature=relmfu
04:29 * vicscandl will eventually have to get a group of various arch/hardware testers
04:30 leo_rockway don't look at me, I offered to help and was rejected like a nerd asking a cheerleader out.
04:30 leo_rockway ='[
04:31 khonkhortisan skip to 14:30
04:31 vicscandl leo_rockway: well... perhaps things can change...
04:33 * VanessaE watches
04:37 bulletrulz will a lower res texture work?
04:37 VanessaE bulletrulz: it might
04:37 VanessaE depends on your hardware, video driver, other stuff
04:38 VanessaE you ARE using the appropriate video driver for your machin eyes?
04:38 bulletrulz ill try
04:38 VanessaE s/machin eyes/machine yes/
04:38 bulletrulz will lxde help too?
04:38 VanessaE dunno
04:38 leo_rockway s/n e/ne /
04:38 VanessaE maybe
04:38 VanessaE just try it
04:39 leo_rockway disable desktop effects if you have any o.o
04:40 khonkhortisan don't use kde, use fvwm or twm or just a flat display with qgamex xterm
04:43 bulletrulz whats the tester tool from
04:44 leo_rockway I use KDE \o/
04:44 khonkhortisan from the default game in the minetest_game source
04:44 khonkhortisan I use kde but I don't notice how slow it is, fvwm doesn't do enough for me
04:44 khonkhortisan I mean minimal source
04:45 khonkhortisan tester tool means you're missing minetest_game
04:45 leo_rockway I like minimalism, but I love KDE...
04:45 leo_rockway it's weird
04:45 leo_rockway bulletrulz: you built the engine, not the game
04:45 VanessaE xfce FTW. :-)
04:45 leo_rockway you're missing the game now
04:45 bulletrulz ok
04:45 khonkhortisan just don't press the STOP button in the Activity Manager
04:46 khonkhortisan yeah I did xfce for a while, it was hard to migrate my keyboard settings away
04:47 khonkhortisan I couldn't get used to awesome
04:47 khonkhortisan better yet, stay out of the activity manager
04:48 leo_rockway I don't use activities
04:49 khonkhortisan don't. you kill every process if you do
04:49 leo_rockway I know how they work. I have no use for them.
04:52 bulletrulz i think i just fucked up messing around in compiz
04:53 khonkhortisan did it turn off? did you get pretty colors?
04:53 bulletrulz no i mean my whole pc
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04:53 bulletrulz brb
04:55 * vicscandl shelves his c++ work and goes back to lua mods...
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04:57 bulletrulz back fixed just by restart
05:02 * vicscandl recinds his request for playtesters...
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05:15 vicscandl you should be coding; this should be your influence: http://www.chromanova.de/chromanova.-.psy.high.pls
05:19 * khonkhortisan finally found out how to move a strawberry bush
05:20 vicscandl last i checked, you use a razor for that guy
05:21 VanessaE *groan*
05:21 khonkhortisan thanks a lot, now I don't know how to craft a razor
05:21 VanessaE (besides, wouldn't it be "that girl" ?)
05:23 vicscandl s/t guy/t, guy/
05:26 VanessaE hah!  see what lack of a comma can cause? ;-)
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05:33 vicscandl meepish
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05:46 vicscandl ooooooo the mesecons master!
05:46 * vicscandl waves at Jeja
05:47 Jeija -.-  calm down ^^
05:47 vicscandl tis ok, i'm going back to modding now btw...
05:47 vicscandl sorry community
05:47 vicscandl {{ not because its hard }}
05:48 VanessaE hey jeija
05:48 Jeija hi VanessaE!
05:50 vicscandl ACK! github down for maint!
05:50 vicscandl https://status.github.com/
05:50 VanessaE NO!!!!!
05:50 VanessaE :-)
05:50 vicscandl serious
05:50 VanessaE I know, I see it
05:51 vicscandl 4m is a long dt
05:56 khonkhortisan the pages still work and that's what matters
05:57 vicscandl guh, for you
05:57 vicscandl i use github to host private repos that update servers. this sucks man.
05:58 VanessaE my texture packs and mods are hosted there! :(
05:58 VanessaE (that's ~350MB of data, rough guess)
05:58 khonkhortisan I have a mod that half works I'm not out much
05:59 vicscandl VanessaE: rm -rf projects/minetest/memfix
05:59 vicscandl write an obit
05:59 vicscandl you have the only copy now.. enjoy
05:59 cornernote_ if my mod is called test, and i want to change the node definition for default:tree, how can i do that? .. a call to minetest.register_node("default:tree",{})  results in an error complaining the module name is wrong
05:59 VanessaE maybe I should make my own minetest distribution, call it photominer  :-)
06:00 VanessaE cornernote_: make it :default:tree
06:00 VanessaE with a leading colon
06:00 cornernote_ thanks V
06:00 VanessaE but be aware there is at least one other mod (3dforniture) that overrides the tree code
06:00 vicscandl VanessaE: well, its nice that the client and server in your version run faster than the current git...
06:01 * VanessaE hoards it
06:01 * vicscandl is now being a fucking bitch.
06:01 vicscandl sorry, misnomer there.. by faster i mean, it uses less cpu cycles and memory.
06:01 vicscandl {{ not much, but some }}
06:01 VanessaE haha! "Page did not respond in a timely fashion."
06:02 VanessaE (with an angry-looking unicorn on the page)
06:02 vicscandl wtf?
06:02 vicscandl screenshot please!
06:02 vicscandl got it, nm... thats fukinng hawt
06:02 VanessaE http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08162012-020234am.php
06:03 VanessaE yes, I read slashdot. :-)
06:03 vicscandl hahaha
06:03 vicscandl no shame there...
06:03 VanessaE no, that would be if I read digg. :-)
06:03 vicscandl which uk article you reading, ther were a few today
06:04 vicscandl nice purple btw
06:04 VanessaE the one about the UK police threatening to raid the Ecuador embassy to get Assange
06:04 VanessaE purple = xfce "keramik" theme recolored by hand with gimp and assembled into a working theme :-)
06:04 vicscandl ahhhhh
06:05 vicscandl 11:01 they claim shits on its way back
06:05 vicscandl not like millions of us are hitting their netblock to hell
06:05 VanessaE ha!
06:05 vicscandl so where the fuck is kahrl?
06:06 VanessaE he has not yet responded to my email.  I don't expect him to, frankly :-/
06:06 VanessaE brb, need f00d
06:06 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmm food
06:06 vicscandl one of these days VanessaE, i'm going to so order you a pizza...
06:06 vicscandl hahahhah
06:06 VanessaE LDA $F00D: STA $BABE
06:07 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
06:07 vicscandl and thats some funny shit
06:07 vicscandl woot! github is back online1
06:08 * vicscandl walks away from mt for a minute to restart his gitbotnet
06:10 cornernote_ im almost finished my mini game pack
06:10 vicscandl cornernote_: nice!
06:10 cornernote_ its a minimal skyblock world
06:10 cornernote_ you cant chop trees or stone with hand
06:10 cornernote_ you start on a block, nothing else in the world
06:11 * vicscandl thinks that he should even just become a player and sod off...
06:11 cornernote_ and you have some stuff, bucket of water, 5x wood, lava source, sapling, 27 dirt
06:11 cornernote_ you can make a cobble generator with lava+water
06:12 cornernote_ and cobble has a random chance to drop other things - dirt, sand, coal, iron, mese
06:12 cornernote_ comes with item_drop mod from PlizAdam
06:12 cornernote_ and it supports multiplayer... like this...
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06:13 cornernote_ each player gets a new spawn point, 32 blocks from the last player
06:13 cornernote_ has global node ownership, so you cant steal or build on other peoples blocks
06:14 VanessaE there, back now with eggrolls in hand
06:14 cornernote_ and if you fall off the edge, you die and lose all your stuff (once you get to -100)
06:15 cornernote_ there are no other mods on it, the idea is to offer (yet another) alternative to minetest_game
06:15 cornernote_ the player/server admin can mod it up themselves
06:15 cornernote_ what do you think ?
06:16 cornernote_ i was gunna make some screens, but my world is kinda... empty ... need to play it a little first
06:16 cornernote_ maybe a video would be funner
06:16 VanessaE I dunno, I'm not a big fan of minimal worlds
06:16 RealBadAngel played skyblock on minecraft, its really cool and addictive
06:17 cornernote_ what do you think of this one i am doing RBA ?
06:17 VanessaE "Response times for github.com are still improving as we fix broken Unicorns."
06:17 VanessaE hahah
06:17 RealBadAngel gonna be cool
06:17 cornernote_ i am a bit stuck on 2 things
06:17 cornernote_ 1 - start positions... x+32 will mean the world is kind of a line
06:18 RealBadAngel have you included farming there too?
06:18 cornernote_ no, but i will make a modpack for it once i get the basics working
06:18 cornernote_ a collection of other peoples mods
06:18 RealBadAngel with farming you could get wool
06:18 VanessaE don't forget to put plenty of my stuff in there ;)
06:18 RealBadAngel some dyes
06:18 RealBadAngel etc
06:19 cornernote_ ahh, i get wool from cotton in my other world
06:19 cornernote_ i just hacked it in there
06:19 RealBadAngel look at pilzadam farming
06:19 leo_rockway what's the objective of skyblock?
06:19 cornernote_ to make a world starting with 1 block
06:19 cornernote_ and some stuff in your inventory
06:19 leo_rockway what's the definition of "a world"?
06:19 cornernote_ then you have to generate/grow everything else
06:20 cornernote_ a world = all the nodes in your world
06:20 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl41sTALR4c
06:20 RealBadAngel watch the vid, you will c
06:20 cornernote_ yeah, hard to explain in text
06:20 leo_rockway I watched that a while ago... I didn't understand if there was a final goal
06:20 RealBadAngel its a gameplay from the very begining
06:20 leo_rockway like: build a house and have a farm
06:21 leo_rockway or: reach the surface
06:21 leo_rockway or... whatever
06:21 RealBadAngel to build whole world
06:21 RealBadAngel watch later episodes
06:21 leo_rockway I guess I should try it too
06:21 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: yeah, I only watched this one (the first one)
06:21 RealBadAngel you have to use all the mechanism of the game
06:22 RealBadAngel to produce another nodes
06:22 RealBadAngel farm
06:22 RealBadAngel all of it
06:22 leo_rockway sounds interesting.
06:22 RealBadAngel wait a sec
06:23 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUDchSCZzEw&amp;feature=BFa&amp;list=SPC2F778AABFB7556D
06:23 RealBadAngel watch world made of of skyblock 17 episodes later
06:24 cornernote_ i think i need to mod so flowing water turns to water (and same with lava)
06:25 leo_rockway holy macaroni!
06:25 cornernote_ so you can make more generators
06:25 leo_rockway cornernote_: doesn't the flowing water mod do that?
06:25 RealBadAngel charcoal could be also usefull there
06:25 cornernote_ link ?
06:25 cornernote_ RBA, howso ?
06:25 RealBadAngel to power ur furnaces
06:26 RealBadAngel and make torches
06:26 leo_rockway cornernote_: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2420
06:26 cornernote_ i get coal_lump by digging stone
06:26 cornernote_ 1/100 chance i think
06:26 RealBadAngel too complicated
06:26 RealBadAngel allow to make it from trees
06:26 RealBadAngel you can make tree farms
06:27 cornernote_ leo, i think the mod just animates them... i want them to actually change from water_flowing to water_source via an ABM
06:27 cornernote_ there was some examples with lava, i think segfault did it
06:28 cornernote_ like this - https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/mods/lava
06:29 RealBadAngel i think i could for it a charcoal driven grinder
06:29 cornernote_ skyblock volcanos
06:29 RealBadAngel so you could make sand and gravel out of stone
06:29 RealBadAngel and then glass
06:29 cornernote_ yeah, sand is a drop at the moment too :(
06:30 cornernote_ kinda lame making these things drop .. but they are the default blocks .. we can mod and add in better blocks
06:30 RealBadAngel im codin electric one now, will adapt it later to use charcoal
06:31 cornernote_ ok, so back to my problem... the start area
06:31 RealBadAngel hmmm
06:31 cornernote_ do you think its lame to start everyone at X + 32 from the last person ?
06:31 RealBadAngel too close i think
06:31 cornernote_ should i make some kinda expanding circle ?
06:31 cornernote_ well, the number is a variable
06:31 cornernote_ its the algorithum im talking about
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06:32 cornernote_ {x+SPACER,y,x}
06:32 VanessaE hey jin
06:32 cornernote_ but i dont know how to make an expanding circle
06:32 RealBadAngel move them in anoter directions too
06:32 cornernote_ randomly ?
06:32 RealBadAngel no
06:33 RealBadAngel make a table with spawning points
06:33 RealBadAngel once used wont be aviable
06:33 cornernote_ ok, and how to generate that table for 1000 players ?
06:33 cornernote_ or 10000
06:33 cornernote_ not that any server will have 10000, but im just saying
06:33 RealBadAngel a grid
06:34 cornernote_ i think an expanding circle
06:34 RealBadAngel 0,0 100,0 0,100 100,100 etc
06:34 cornernote_ yes, i know how to save data =)
06:34 jin_xi morning all
06:34 cornernote_ but i mean to populate it with 10k results
06:34 cornernote_ eg... convert your "etc" out to 10k
06:34 RealBadAngel write a loops
06:35 cornernote_ lol
06:35 cornernote_ i know how to program, and how to save data
06:35 RealBadAngel you mean, store it?
06:35 cornernote_ what i dont know is an algorithum that will result in a non-colliding expanding circle of "nodes"
06:36 cornernote_ if, player 1 is 0,0,0
06:36 cornernote_ player2 is 0+SPACER,0,0
06:36 cornernote_ then player 3 is 0,0,0+SPACER
06:36 cornernote_ then player 4 is 0+SPACER,0,0+SPACER
06:37 RealBadAngel assume just 2 coords needed
06:37 cornernote_ and it has to go around in a circle back to the start
06:37 RealBadAngel all will spawn at the same height
06:37 cornernote_ once it gets to the start, it uses SPACER*2
06:37 cornernote_ so it would spiral out
06:37 cornernote_ thats the word, spiral
06:37 RealBadAngel make a table that with hold a grid, and player name
06:38 RealBadAngel store it in a node somwhere in the world
06:38 cornernote_ yes, i know that, but how to get the data to put in it
06:38 jin_xi table.insert()?
06:38 RealBadAngel in its meta
06:39 cornernote_ i know how to insert... where does the data come from ?
06:39 cornernote_ eg: if there are 10000 players who want to play... i need 10000 positions
06:39 cornernote_ so i need to generate 10000 positions
06:39 RealBadAngel too much for such limited world ;)
06:39 cornernote_ ok 100
06:39 RealBadAngel make 100, fairly enough
06:39 cornernote_ the number is not the point, try to focus
06:39 cornernote_ i need 100 all evenly spaced
06:40 cornernote_ player 1 i dont want on the corner
06:40 cornernote_ i want him in the middle
06:40 jin_xi do the spiral thing using radius and angle if you want spiral
06:40 RealBadAngel for x=-1000 to 1000 step 100 for z=-1000 to 1000 step 100
06:41 RealBadAngel you will have then your grid
06:41 RealBadAngel with 0 as center
06:41 RealBadAngel each generater pair of x,z will be spawn point
06:41 cornernote_ 17 16 15 14 13
06:41 cornernote_ 18 05 04 03 12
06:41 cornernote_ 19 06 01 02 11
06:41 cornernote_ 20 07 08 09 10
06:41 cornernote_ 21 22 23 24 25
06:41 cornernote_ like that
06:42 RealBadAngel to each pair in table give empty string
06:42 RealBadAngel empty means not occupied yet
06:42 RealBadAngel with player name, already used and occupied spawn point
06:42 FreeFull cornernote_: And you really can't come up with a program that would generate something like this? =P
06:43 leo_rockway shift + click like MC would be very convenient in MT
06:43 FreeFull leo_rockway, I agree
06:43 RealBadAngel @leo: indeed
06:43 cornernote_ FreeFull, not really... why, is it simple ?
06:43 leo_rockway I was testing MC the other day. I played for about 5 hours. I really liked that feature.
06:44 leo_rockway I don't think we're very far from MC funwise.
06:44 RealBadAngel cornernote: i already told ya how to code it
06:44 RealBadAngel make those two loops, one inside of another
06:44 RealBadAngel thats all
06:44 FreeFull MC doesn't allow you to go anywhere as deep
06:45 FreeFull And minetest sometimes ends up with these really impressive mountains
06:45 cornernote_ RBA, you told me how to make a grid, which would look like this:
06:45 cornernote_ 01 02 03 04 .. 10
06:45 cornernote_ 11 12 13 14 .. etc
06:45 RealBadAngel a sqare with dots in it step 100 one from each other
06:45 RealBadAngel in each direction
06:46 cornernote_ how do i get the 57th spawnpoint using the spiral example above ?
06:47 RealBadAngel index no 57 in table? ;)
06:47 cornernote_ in your table, that would be 5 down, 7 across
06:47 cornernote_ in mine it would be in the spiral
06:48 cornernote_ where is pos1 in yours ?
06:48 cornernote_ -1000,0,-1000
06:48 cornernote_ in mine its 0,0,0
06:48 RealBadAngel it depends how do i number them
06:48 cornernote_ in yours, pos2 is -1000,0,-900
06:48 cornernote_ mine is 0,0,100
06:48 RealBadAngel can just run a snake from 0,0 to the last point
06:49 cornernote_ ok, thats a good point
06:49 cornernote_ how you number them
06:49 cornernote_ i'd like to number them to represent a spiral (as per example)
06:50 RealBadAngel i would write a snake algorithm to generate it for me
06:50 cornernote_ snake algorithm ???
06:50 cornernote_ your just messing with me right
06:50 RealBadAngel will go spiral from center to the edge of the grid
06:51 cornernote_ i think i have an idea....
06:51 FreeFull I'm sure there is a formula that converts a position from something like  05 to the position in the snake grid
06:52 cornernote_ yeah, thats what im after
06:52 cornernote_ would make starting a lot better than just +SPACER in 1 direction
06:52 RealBadAngel gimme a few minutes
06:52 cornernote_ ok thanks
06:54 cornernote_ might be a cool algorithum for tools like multinode/worldedit
06:54 cornernote_ hollow spirals
06:55 cornernote_ my other issue is that i cannot (despite hours of trying) think of a way to build 1 block under a new player
06:56 cornernote_ basically the block loads too late, and the player already fell through
06:56 cornernote_ so i tried this...
06:56 cornernote_ use an indestructable spawn block... if the block is not there then don't kill the player, just place the block and spawn them back
06:57 cornernote_ but same problem....
06:57 cornernote_ sometimes it makes the block too late, and they already fell
06:57 cornernote_ this time they die because the block is there
06:58 cornernote_ maybe hold them at y=0 until the block appears, put an abm to do it
06:58 cornernote_ or an on_step
06:59 RealBadAngel http://www.codeforge.com/read/196156/main.cpp__html
06:59 RealBadAngel here you go
06:59 RealBadAngel spiral matrix generator written in c++
07:00 cornernote_ nice, thanks RBA!
07:00 cornernote_ i'll have a crack to make it into minetest lua
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07:01 RealBadAngel idea is easy
07:01 cornernote_ added the URL to the code in a todo note
07:01 cornernote_ will have a crack tonight
07:02 RealBadAngel another one in java
07:02 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/945265/2d-array-in-spiral-order
07:02 cornernote_ looks reasonable easy
07:03 cornernote_ that looks easier
07:03 RealBadAngel this is even easier
07:03 RealBadAngel yea
07:03 RealBadAngel uncle google knows lotsa stuff ;)
07:03 cornernote_ awesome, thanks!
07:03 cornernote_ well, i didnt even know the question to start with!  haha
07:04 RealBadAngel thats the most common problem indeed
07:04 cornernote_ i just knew that x + SPACER sucked
07:04 cornernote_ i dont need a table, or to store it, or anything
07:04 cornernote_ i just need the next x/z in the list
07:05 cornernote_ maybe store it for performance or whatever
07:05 RealBadAngel yeah
07:05 RealBadAngel generate it just once
07:06 RealBadAngel to each pair of coords put field to store players name
07:06 RealBadAngel so if empty, another can spawn there
07:06 RealBadAngel and will also mark player spawn location
07:07 RealBadAngel so he can only spawn on own skyblock
07:14 RealBadAngel and got idea on spawnin too
07:14 RealBadAngel spawn players a bit higher
07:15 RealBadAngel and put a bit of water there
07:17 RealBadAngel ha found even better table generator
07:17 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8979214/iterate-over-2d-array-in-an-expanding-circular-spiral?lq=1
07:17 RealBadAngel under: UPDATE
07:18 RealBadAngel even with graphics to show result
07:41 cornernote_ ok, i got the start block fixed so you dont die when you join
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07:45 RealBadAngel and im still messing with grinder ;)
07:46 RealBadAngel im think about order of grinding
07:46 RealBadAngel cobble->gravel, stone->sand
07:46 RealBadAngel and gravel->dirt
07:47 RealBadAngel this way you could have all needed earth nodes out of cobble
07:57 FreeFull desert stone -> desert sand
08:01 RealBadAngel yeah
08:01 RealBadAngel anythin more?
08:01 cornernote_ maybe a skyblock variation where the objective is to build over to other people's blocks and raid them haha
08:02 RealBadAngel lol
08:02 RealBadAngel make basic one 1st
08:02 cornernote_ doing the spiral now
08:02 cornernote_ just thinking random thoughts
08:02 RealBadAngel then you can make Skyblock Reloaded ;)
08:02 cornernote_ i added abm to change flowing lava/water to lava/water source
08:03 cornernote_ so then you can make more generators
08:03 cornernote_ and water/lava features
08:03 RealBadAngel make it so like in minecraft
08:03 RealBadAngel in 2x2 hole
08:03 cornernote_ 1x3 hole
08:03 RealBadAngel when sources put in corners make infinite source of water
08:03 cornernote_ oh
08:04 RealBadAngel so takin one, another fills it up
08:04 cornernote_ i dont understand
08:04 cornernote_ yeah, i get infinite
08:04 cornernote_ let me explain what i dont understand
08:04 RealBadAngel k
08:05 cornernote_ under which conditions should water_source turn to water_source infinite ?
08:05 cornernote_ and, i assume there is no block for an infinite water source, how do you make one ?
08:05 RealBadAngel when x+1, z+1 or x-1,z-1
08:05 RealBadAngel is another source
08:05 cornernote_ ok
08:06 RealBadAngel takin one source causes another to regenarate it
08:06 cornernote_ so 2 sources together make both into infinite sources ?
08:06 RealBadAngel but only 2
08:06 cornernote_ or like a star...
08:06 cornernote_ 1
08:06 cornernote_ 1 1 1
08:06 cornernote_ 1
08:06 cornernote_ the middle one becomes infinite ?
08:06 RealBadAngel this way its done in mc
08:07 cornernote_ can you draw it ?
08:07 RealBadAngel look at the coords
08:07 cornernote_ ok, in your example its like this
08:07 cornernote_ WS WS
08:07 cornernote_ both become infinite
08:07 cornernote_ is that correct ?
08:08 cornernote_ i think that it shoud take 5 water to make 1 infinite
08:08 RealBadAngel just two
08:08 cornernote_ ok
08:08 cornernote_ a corner of mine
08:08 RealBadAngel check diagonal each
08:08 cornernote_ W W
08:08 cornernote_ W
08:08 cornernote_ like that
08:08 RealBadAngel not in line
08:08 cornernote_ makes the topleft one become infinite
08:08 RealBadAngel only diagonal
08:09 cornernote_ W
08:09 cornernote_ W
08:09 cornernote_ W
08:09 cornernote_ the middle one ?
08:09 RealBadAngel operate coords or u will mess it up
08:09 cornernote_ im trying to picture it
08:09 RealBadAngel when taken at (pos)
08:09 RealBadAngel check x+1, z+1
08:09 RealBadAngel x-1, z+1
08:10 RealBadAngel x+1, z-1
08:10 RealBadAngel x-1, z-1
08:10 RealBadAngel those 4 pairs, diagonal from water taken at 0 - pos
08:10 RealBadAngel if theres water source on any
08:10 RealBadAngel put water source at pos again
08:11 cornernote_ ok
08:11 RealBadAngel this way you will allow generatin infinite pools
08:11 cornernote_ that can never be removed
08:11 cornernote_ cos once 2 are in a lock, they both cant be removed
08:11 RealBadAngel at most simple config 2x2 will become infinite
08:12 RealBadAngel ah, theres a trick
08:12 cornernote_ ok, that was my concern
08:12 cornernote_ that seems bad
08:12 cornernote_ which is why i thought needing 2 corners was better
08:12 RealBadAngel put stone instead of takin water with bucket
08:12 cornernote_ i see
08:12 cornernote_ ok, done deal
08:12 cornernote_ will add that now
08:12 cornernote_ and remove abm
08:13 cornernote_ does MT have this logic already ?
08:13 RealBadAngel you do regeneratin only when picked water with bucket
08:13 cornernote_ i know there are infinite sources
08:13 cornernote_ ok, i see
08:13 RealBadAngel you shall do this in bucket mod i think
08:16 cornernote_ override it, yeah
08:16 cornernote_ but i wonder how infinite sources work in the MT game
08:17 RealBadAngel idk
08:17 VanessaE they're a pain in the ass
08:17 cornernote_ ok ... ?
08:17 VanessaE three water in a row makes the middle one infinite.  anothing beyond that becomes impossible to exhaust with just a bucket.
08:18 cornernote_ ok, so its already like that
08:18 VanessaE yup
08:18 cornernote_ sec.. testing..
08:18 RealBadAngel so maybe dont need to add more pain ;)
08:18 cornernote_ but problem is, you need 2, or 3
08:18 cornernote_ with the ABM, you only need 1
08:18 cornernote_ and some time
08:18 VanessaE and if you have lava + water = some other material (e.g. cobble or obsidian), you can do on one layer
08:18 VanessaE W W W
08:18 VanessaE on the next layer
08:18 VanessaE L
08:18 VanessaE L
08:18 VanessaE L
08:19 VanessaE and the one of the two middle slots where W and L cross becomes infinite whatever the material is.
08:20 VanessaE better to let the game manage the infinite water/lava for you than to use an ABM -- less CPU load that way I expect.
08:21 RealBadAngel when usin that way i described (messing with bucket mod) no abms needed at all
08:22 RealBadAngel user action (takin water) causes to regenarate, not the abm
08:22 cornernote_ yep, infinite works
08:22 cornernote_ the ingame one
08:23 RealBadAngel so left it as is
08:23 cornernote_ the thing i want the ABM for is something else
08:23 cornernote_ i give the player only 1 water and 1 lava
08:23 cornernote_ perhaps i need to give him 3 of each
08:23 RealBadAngel give 2
08:23 cornernote_ needs 3
08:23 RealBadAngel so 3
08:23 cornernote_ ok
08:23 cornernote_ done
08:23 RealBadAngel have to be enough to create infinite
08:24 cornernote_ yeah, without the abm
08:24 RealBadAngel btw about CPU load
08:24 RealBadAngel world will be almost empty
08:25 RealBadAngel so no worry bout load
08:25 VanessaE the map generator will find a way to spike your CPU :D
08:25 cornernote_ yeah =)
08:25 cornernote_ it does
08:25 RealBadAngel hahaha
08:25 VanessaE even with nothing to generate :-)
08:25 cornernote_ it has to generate all that air
08:25 RealBadAngel smart beast lol
08:25 cornernote_ and save it in sqlite
08:25 cornernote_ so that it knows its generated
08:25 cornernote_ i guess
08:26 cornernote_ abms are fast tho
08:26 cornernote_ cos there is very few non-air blocks
08:26 cornernote_ eg, i can write an abm for dirt to run C/I 1/1
08:27 cornernote_ and cpu is fine with that
08:27 VanessaE yeah but what of the OCD player who ends up building out a 1000x1000 meter world :-)
08:28 RealBadAngel abms workin on separate thread i think
08:28 cornernote_ how about a bucket ?
08:28 cornernote_ with these 6 sources ?
08:28 cornernote_ then they dont stack
08:28 RealBadAngel its possible to loop endlessly abm, and game works
08:28 cornernote_ 6 buckets of fluid, or 2 stacks of 3 fluids ?
08:28 RealBadAngel but abms looped
08:29 RealBadAngel i am playin with use for this mechanism
08:29 VanessaE 2 stacks of 3 plus one empty bucket.
08:29 cornernote_ HRMM, i know !!
08:29 cornernote_ this is multiplayer
08:29 cornernote_ so you need 2 friends to make an infinite source
08:29 cornernote_ you have upto 8 friends joined to you
08:30 RealBadAngel good idea
08:30 RealBadAngel but you should allow also singleplayers to develop it too
08:31 cornernote_ sinlgeplayer, i was gunna fo that L shaped map
08:31 cornernote_ with a chest
08:31 RealBadAngel but one thing
08:31 RealBadAngel players are 100 nodes from each other
08:32 cornernote_ in multiplayer, the L will me in the middle, but you wont spawn there.. you will spiral out
08:32 cornernote_ the spacing is a setting
08:32 cornernote_ i guess it depends on the type of game
08:32 RealBadAngel you cant make them too close
08:32 cornernote_ some styles may be close
08:32 cornernote_ others may need lots of build space
08:32 RealBadAngel it would kill the idea of buildin out of nothin
08:33 RealBadAngel if a new player could easily come to visit another one
08:33 cornernote_ true
08:33 cornernote_ 1st concept was 128 apart
08:33 RealBadAngel up to you
08:33 cornernote_ then i got smaller and smaller as i was testing
08:34 RealBadAngel and i think to be tested too
08:34 RealBadAngel how was with given range theyre able to reach each other
08:34 RealBadAngel how fast
08:35 cornernote_ yeah, in about 30 mins you can get a long way if you just build in a line
08:35 cornernote_ but then you cant build on their blocks
08:35 RealBadAngel dont forget you have to grow trees
08:35 cornernote_ already done
08:35 RealBadAngel to make tools
08:35 RealBadAngel dig cobble
08:35 cornernote_ thanks to PlizAdam's farming mod
08:35 RealBadAngel all takes time
08:35 cornernote_ oh, u mean ingame =)
08:35 cornernote_ lo
08:35 cornernote_ l
08:36 RealBadAngel no flyin, no set spawn
08:36 RealBadAngel everything out of nearly nothin
08:36 cornernote_ set spawn is automated.. you cant control it as a player
08:36 cornernote_ you are given a spawn point
08:37 RealBadAngel yeah
08:37 cornernote_ ok, im gunna do this spiral
08:37 RealBadAngel so, it gonna be hardcore
08:37 RealBadAngel and thats is fun :)
08:40 cornernote_ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/398299/looping-in-a-spiral
08:40 VanessaE hardcore?  suggest it to c55 then ;)
08:41 VanessaE </troll>
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08:58 VanessaE bbl
08:59 cornernote_ ok, this is the exact function i want - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10094745/find-the-position-nth-element-of-a-rectangular-tiled-spiral
08:59 cornernote_ input the number of steps (eg, the next player counter), and output the x/z of the next spiral location
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09:00 cornernote_ but how can i write this in lua:
09:00 cornernote_ [floor(((x+2)**2)/4) for x in range(n+2)]
09:00 Calinou [cause a segfault] j/k
09:00 Calinou hi
09:00 cornernote_ :S
09:01 cornernote_ hi Calinou
09:01 cornernote_ Calinou, im looking at this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10094745/find-the-position-nth-element-of-a-rectangular-tiled-spiral
09:01 cornernote_ want to make a square spiral
09:01 cornernote_ just for some context =)
09:02 * Calinou isn't a math freak, sorry
09:03 cornernote_ how about this part - for x in range(n+2)
09:03 cornernote_ wheres it get n ?
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09:04 RealBadAngel do number them when generating
09:04 RealBadAngel when later you will need them just check [n] index of generated table
09:05 cornernote_ yeah, but thats not as cool
09:05 RealBadAngel 1st generated will be [1], 2nd [2]
09:05 cornernote_ ok, i need the generator part working...
09:05 cornernote_ then i can look them up however cpu allows
09:06 * cornernote_ goes back to reading c and java code
09:06 RealBadAngel once generated and stored in table
09:06 RealBadAngel u just look for [n] index og this table
09:07 RealBadAngel no formulas, nothin
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10:16 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:18 cornernote_ hey
10:18 jin_xi hi adam
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12:23 cornernote_ finally got square spirals working
12:23 cornernote_ 1 downside, you have to define a width for your world (eg: 10x10 players)
12:32 whirm cornernote_: what are square spirals?
12:32 RealBadAngel dont ask ;)
12:32 whirm XDDD
12:34 RealBadAngel as russian say, you know less, you live longer ;)
12:34 saschaheylik ten im gonna die very soon
12:34 saschaheylik *then
12:35 RealBadAngel hehehe
12:35 whirm XDD
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12:38 NekoGloop Hello peoples
12:39 saschaheylik you.
12:39 NekoGloop who?
12:41 RealBadAngel are you not human that call us people? ;)
12:41 RealBadAngel hi
12:41 NekoGloop :P
12:41 NekoGloop well what're you up to, realbadangel?
12:42 RealBadAngel nothin really ;)
12:42 NekoGloop lol
12:42 NekoGloop work on technic >:D
12:43 RealBadAngel old polish joke, when some comes and say "hi, people" answer was "hi, monkey"
12:43 NekoGloop lol
12:43 RealBadAngel almost finished grinder, its gonna be uploaded today
12:43 saschaheylik thats random
12:43 NekoGloop kewl
12:44 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Is music player implemented?
12:44 RealBadAngel yes, you seen video
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12:44 RealBadAngel hi sdzen, hows the textures?
12:45 sdzen good
12:45 sdzen i think i have most of them done :P
12:45 RealBadAngel be fast, adding new machine each day now ;)
12:46 sdzen http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7453/screenshot743120211.png
12:46 RealBadAngel theres tool workshop, music player and the grinder which is almost ready
12:46 sdzen that fast enough?
12:46 sdzen i havent gotten some other stuff
12:46 NekoGloop sdzen: maybe make the batteries and batboxes still be copper-colored :P
12:46 RealBadAngel cool :)
12:46 sdzen do you want me to play with the chest textures as well?
12:47 RealBadAngel wait till mithril will got link ability
12:47 * NekoGloop kicks RealBadAngel for not using overlays in his textures
12:47 RealBadAngel when im done with basic machines i will finish the chests
12:47 sdzen idk if i even have the latest version of your mod
12:48 RealBadAngel 0.63 was latest public
12:48 NekoGloop Marked chest colors should be overlays on the base chest's texture. Not actually put on the texture itself.
12:48 sdzen yep thats what i have
12:49 sdzen and an overlay would be good :P
12:49 NekoGloop that way you dont need to make more textures for mithril chests, just plop the other ones on there.
12:49 NekoGloop sdzen: server down for any reason?
12:49 sdzen nope
12:49 sdzen why
12:50 RealBadAngel mithirl when connected will need 3 variants
12:50 NekoGloop nvm
12:50 sdzen it was crashed
12:50 NekoGloop was down earlier
12:50 RealBadAngel for 3 possible networks
12:50 NekoGloop so who else thinks it was landmine who griefed it?
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12:51 RealBadAngel idk if it was landmine but an asshole for sure
12:51 NekoGloop well look at usu's house.
12:52 NekoGloop (assuming it's still there)
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13:03 RealBadAngel i hate that "Some Exeption"
13:04 NekoGloop ?
13:04 RealBadAngel game crashes and all you can c is "Some exception"
13:05 NekoGloop ah
13:05 saschaheylik totally randomly?
13:05 saschaheylik NekoGloop: "ah" is very helpful.
13:06 NekoGloop ah
13:07 RealBadAngel no, testin my work
13:07 RealBadAngel after a few restart i got this shit
13:07 RealBadAngel and have to close the game
13:08 saschaheylik so its because of your changes?
13:08 RealBadAngel not to mention every enter the world takes longer
13:08 RealBadAngel only closing game helps
13:09 RealBadAngel not because of me
13:09 RealBadAngel game is not wipin out mem i suppose
13:11 RealBadAngel a question now
13:11 saschaheylik oh
13:11 RealBadAngel i want to create new itemstack
13:11 RealBadAngel got new, empty variable
13:11 RealBadAngel and want to create new itemstack with givin name of item/node
13:12 RealBadAngel any1?
13:12 RealBadAngel add_item doesnt work
13:12 NekoGloop Er...
13:13 NekoGloop Lemme re-upload my alchemy code
13:13 NekoGloop it has an example of that... i think
13:13 RealBadAngel gimme gimme
13:15 NekoGloop greedy little beggar arent you>
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13:16 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/7uQU779f
13:17 NekoGloop look at the extractor/fission_chamber/fusion_chamber code
13:17 NekoGloop in after_place_node
13:17 NekoGloop (that usage makes the node be in effect unplaceable)
13:20 RealBadAngel not exactly what i need
13:20 NekoGloop well idk then
13:20 NekoGloop was just an example >.>
13:21 NekoGloop at least unlike some other people i try to help
13:22 RealBadAngel i know, thx
13:23 NekoGloop instead of "look at lua_api.txt, y'know, that old doc that's worth shit"
13:26 RealBadAngel i got the solution
13:27 NekoGloop kewl
13:27 RealBadAngel new_item=ItemStack("default:sand")
13:27 RealBadAngel for example
13:31 NekoGloop kewl
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13:34 Keegan hello
13:36 NekoGloop hello
13:40 NekoGloop Did I seriously just mine all that... with a full inventory...?!
13:46 Keegan anyone know a free hosting serverices
13:47 FreeFull NekoGloop: So you wasted a bunch of blocks?
13:48 NekoGloop FreeFull: Basically 50-70 cobble never got into my inventory and I wasted a Alatro Pickaxe
13:50 FreeFull Fun
13:51 Calinou Keegan, free website hosting yes, free server hosting no
13:55 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
14:03 RealBadAngel shit, done
14:03 NekoGloop I really should be working on my mod >.>
14:03 Keegan anyone know how to complie 0.4.2 r1
14:03 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/grinder.png
14:04 NekoGloop @Keegan: ~magic~
14:05 * NekoGloop pats RealBadAngel's back
14:05 NekoGloop Windows ftw ;)
14:05 thexyz RealBadAngel: do you code without syntax highlighting?
14:06 Keegan i should be workng on my mods too
14:06 NekoGloop YOU HAVE A SKYPE ALERT!!!! :D
14:08 RealBadAngel thexyz: am i blind to have highlitin? ;)
14:08 RealBadAngel dont need to
14:08 thexyz strange...
14:08 thexyz have you, at least, tried to enable it?
14:08 Keegan what would be a good mod to do?€
14:08 RealBadAngel too many colors distract me
14:09 NekoGloop Keegan: one that lets you eat other players ;)
14:09 thexyz then your highlighting scheme is wrong
14:09 RealBadAngel i do read many lines at sight
14:09 thexyz btw, for me it's nearly impossible to code without highlighting
14:09 RealBadAngel with colors its worse for me to read as fast
14:10 RealBadAngel im trained to read another way
14:10 NekoGloop Well all I do is change the colors to not be distracting but still legible
14:10 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Welcome to my world.
14:10 RealBadAngel im used to read a lot of books
14:11 RealBadAngel i do read them damn fast
14:11 NekoGloop me too lol
14:11 RealBadAngel tolkien's silmarillion is for me just for 2 evenings
14:11 NekoGloop Well if I have the inclination to do so I could read that in 2 days
14:12 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/VEqiT.png
14:12 RealBadAngel i tried highliting but then i cant read so fast
14:12 thexyz why do you need to read your code fast?
14:12 thexyz there shouldn't be million of symbols
14:12 NekoGloop thexyz: I cant read that at all >.>
14:13 RealBadAngel to take a look at the page of code and see it all
14:13 RealBadAngel like a page of book
14:13 thexyz reading code like a book, hm..
14:13 RealBadAngel then you understand a BIT more
14:13 thexyz anyway
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14:15 Keegan I made a lavamese mod and fridge mod and ruby mod
14:16 Keegan but i need help with my fridge mod
14:16 NekoGloop "lavamese" dafuq?
14:16 NekoGloop >ruby mod
14:17 NekoGloop there's already gems mod by wowiamdiamonds
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14:17 Keegan i know i just found that out after i made it
14:17 NekoGloop lol
14:17 NekoGloop what's lavamese?
14:17 Keegan when water hits lava it turns to mese
14:17 NekoGloop I would do cobble/stone, not mese
14:18 Keegan cheating way
14:18 NekoGloop maybe mese for lava_source
14:18 NekoGloop which turns into mese, the lava or the water?
14:18 RealBadAngel furnace code is a mess
14:18 Keegan m still thinking on that
14:18 RealBadAngel i threw it all away
14:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ikr
14:18 Keegan but why cant  open my fridge?
14:19 NekoGloop Keegan: did you use chest code as a reference?
14:19 Keegan kinda
14:19 RealBadAngel only comments left from original code lol
14:19 NekoGloop hm...
14:19 Keegan i got it from madchickens chest code
14:20 NekoGloop oh well no wonder it doesnt work
14:20 RealBadAngel hahahah
14:20 RealBadAngel i told him it gonna crash
14:20 NekoGloop you may wish to virusscan your computer
14:20 Keegan why
14:20 NekoGloop >madchicken
14:20 RealBadAngel take chest code from rc1
14:20 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: he cant compile rc1
14:20 RealBadAngel new chest code is way different
14:21 RealBadAngel so take my iron chest
14:21 VanessaE he should be able to, he runs linux
14:21 VanessaE also good morning :-)
14:21 NekoGloop g'mornin vanessae
14:21 Keegan good morning
14:21 RealBadAngel hi vanessa
14:21 NekoGloop I meant he cant get anyone to help him.
14:22 NekoGloop would if i could but i just downloaded the run in place version for windows ;)
14:22 VanessaE what's the problem?
14:22 NekoGloop idk if he even has the source code yet
14:25 Keegan where is your chest mod?
14:25 NekoGloop derop
14:25 NekoGloop deroooop
14:25 NekoGloop ITS HIS FREAKIN TECHNIC MOD
14:26 NekoGloop (derop is an extended version of derp btw ;))
14:26 NekoGloop (aka a typo)
14:28 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/iron_chest.lua
14:28 RealBadAngel here you go with chest code
14:28 Keegan i already found it
14:29 RealBadAngel main chest code comes from 0.4.2rc1
14:29 RealBadAngel its different as in previous releases
14:30 RealBadAngel but will work for previous ones too
14:30 RealBadAngel old one will not work with newer
14:31 RealBadAngel thats why i laughed at madchicken
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14:31 Calinou RealBadAngel, you don't need to define stack_max
14:31 Calinou default is 99
14:31 Calinou :x
14:32 NekoGloop of course you can make it be 65535, to have a sh*tload of items :D
14:32 RealBadAngel it was in example i believe
14:32 RealBadAngel so its copy paste now
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14:32 RealBadAngel but usefull when i need to restrict it
14:32 RealBadAngel already have variable there
14:33 RealBadAngel i do code this way, remember where last time i used somethin and copy a piece
14:34 RealBadAngel delete whats not needed, add new and go
14:34 NakedFury hello guys, good morning
14:34 NekoGloop lol I just tryed to print a file
14:35 RealBadAngel good evenin ;)
14:35 NekoGloop and i have no printer hooked up to this computer
14:35 VanessaE morning NakedFury.
14:35 RealBadAngel grab a piece of paper and pencil then ;)
14:35 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
14:36 * NekoGloop is happy kitty today :3
14:37 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2797
14:37 * thexyz facepalms
14:37 * NekoGloop also facepalms
14:37 VanessaE *hangs head*
14:37 VanessaE neworking FAIL
14:37 VanessaE networking, too
14:37 RealBadAngel ok, grinder is now bulletproof
14:37 Keegan help me http://pastebin.com/UB7fkZdz
14:37 RealBadAngel now definitions just
14:37 NekoGloop 1: no version of minetest is specifyed
14:38 VanessaE Keegan: I've seen that error before - what were you doing when it happened?
14:38 NekoGloop 2: "how do I add mods and textures to only that world" give him the pin for being the largest idiot ever
14:38 Keegan i wasnt even on the server im trying to make mods
14:38 * thexyz facepalms even more
14:39 * NekoGloop lol's at the fact thexyz even posted
14:39 VanessaE Keegan:  what *precisely* were you doing when it happened?
14:39 RealBadAngel i ve seen such error in forums
14:40 RealBadAngel but dont remember where
14:40 Keegan doing mods but i wasnt on the server
14:40 VanessaE Keegan:  what precisely were you doing when it happened?
14:40 thexyz Keegan: it seems your entity with physical=true is located near undefined node
14:40 VanessaE as in exactly what action did you take?
14:40 NekoGloop Keegan: WHICH FREAKIN MOD
14:41 RealBadAngel ha
14:41 RealBadAngel vanessa was involved
14:41 Keegan idk
14:41 cornernote_ ok
14:41 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/148
14:41 cornernote_ pre-release before i put it on the forums
14:41 cornernote_ https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock
14:41 NekoGloop Keegan: could you stop being an idiot and look at your mods folder and tell us WHICH FERAKIN MODS YOU HAVE
14:41 thexyz Keegan: you may add         if minetest.registered_nodes[nn] == nil then         return        end        to buildin/item_entity.lua after line 74
14:41 VanessaE hah! yep I knew I'd seen it somewhere before
14:42 Keegan 3dforniture beer junglegrass locked_sign  money moreblocks moreores  spawnblocks stairsplus teleporters teleporter reloaded weed whisper wool worldedit
14:43 NekoGloop wtf is reloaded
14:43 Keegan settp_home/miine/town
14:44 NekoGloop oh a madchicken mod
14:44 NekoGloop another thing to make sure to delete
14:44 Keegan my fridge mod doesnt work :(
14:46 RealBadAngel no power? ;)
14:46 NekoGloop lol
14:46 Keegan no cant even open it
14:49 Keegan now what mod to do
14:49 cornernote_ is there a way to clear the chat/output text from the screen
14:49 VanessaE have your mom take the lock off the door :D
14:49 VanessaE cornernote_: F2 will hide it
14:49 cornernote_ ta
14:53 Calinou F1 and F2
14:53 Calinou F1 hides HUD, F2 chat
14:53 Calinou F5 shows/hides debug info
14:53 NekoGloop no Alt+F4 :D
14:54 Keegan for what
14:54 Calinou lol NekoGloop
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15:00 RealBadAngel aaaaah, again some new textures need to be done
15:01 RealBadAngel now ores dust
15:02 Keegan how do ii add pctures
15:02 RealBadAngel where?
15:02 Keegan forums
15:02 RealBadAngel upload it first
15:02 RealBadAngel then when have link
15:02 RealBadAngel type [img]link[/img]
15:03 RealBadAngel use imageshack.us for example
15:03 VanessaE or imgur
15:03 VanessaE or ompldr
15:03 RealBadAngel whatever :)
15:03 Keegan did and didnt show
15:04 Keegan got it
15:04 NekoGloop use omploader you get the BBCode given to you
15:05 RealBadAngel once he did it he will know
15:05 RealBadAngel with any site
15:05 Keegan how do i make the picture bigger?
15:05 VanessaE you probably linked to the thumbnail
15:05 VanessaE link to the full sized image instead
15:06 NekoGloop i link to full pics but omploadr doesnt like that
15:06 VanessaE so use imgur :-)
15:06 Calinou works for me
15:07 Keegan i am
15:07 Keegan i just need my picture bigger
15:07 VanessaE Calinou: actually I've had the same problem with ompldr.  links to thumbnails worked, but for whatever reason the full-size image didn't.
15:07 Calinou link to the full link ;) in img tags
15:07 Calinou anyway I use dropbox now
15:08 VanessaE Keegan:  what is the link to the image?
15:08 VanessaE paste the URL here
15:08 Keegan http://i.imgur.com/XDoXIs.jpg
15:08 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr9Eq4f2Whw&amp;feature=relmfu this is funny as hell xD
15:09 VanessaE looks like you cropped it to size
15:11 Keegan how do i make it bigger?
15:11 VanessaE what did you use to take this screenshot?
15:11 Keegan f12
15:11 NekoGloop he used ~magic~
15:12 Keegan its getting smaller everytime i make t bigger
15:13 VanessaE http://imgur.com/XDoXIs
15:13 VanessaE there's the full-size image
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15:13 VanessaE you linked to the wrong one
15:13 VanessaE http://i.imgur.com/XDoXI.jpg
15:13 NakedFury you really need to take screenshots in daylight
15:13 VanessaE (note there's no 's' ahead of tghe jpg)
15:13 VanessaE keegan: in your game, type  /time 7000
15:13 VanessaE then take a new screenshot
15:14 Keegan ok
15:15 NekoGloop Evil diamonds lol
15:15 Keegan ok now how do i do t agan
15:15 VanessaE do what?
15:16 Keegan got it thanks
15:22 RealBadAngel lol
15:22 * NekoGloop hates "click 'show comment' to go on an adventure" comments on youtube
15:23 NekoGloop Anyway, I am getting -REALLY- off-track here
15:24 RealBadAngel i made all ores dusts
15:24 RealBadAngel now downscale them
15:24 NekoGloop kewl
15:24 NekoGloop support for gloopores or not?
15:25 NekoGloop (I presume not)
15:25 RealBadAngel why not?
15:25 NekoGloop well if you want to I wont stop you
15:25 RealBadAngel take a ore dust picture
15:26 RealBadAngel make it the very same colour as your ore is
15:26 NekoGloop I thought you couldnt get your furnaces to allow other ores without editing their abm/nodedef?
15:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: offtrack?  fix the wheels on your minecart then ;-)
15:26 NekoGloop VanessaE: The rail ended 32 blocks back
15:26 RealBadAngel and send me it back with exact names
15:26 VanessaE haha
15:27 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Kind of busy atm... would it be too much of a bother to ask you to do it?
15:27 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/technic_gold_dust.png
15:28 RealBadAngel colorize it to fit your ores
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15:28 NekoGloop not neccessarily have them have a use in your mod itself, just to make them >.>
15:28 NekoGloop OH HELL NO
15:28 NekoGloop I AM NOT WORKING WITH THAT HI-RES PIC
15:28 RealBadAngel i do
15:28 VanessaE gotta run, bbl
15:28 RealBadAngel and downscaling them
15:29 NekoGloop is it that hard to make the hi-res ones optional?
15:29 RealBadAngel this way i do have textures for hd pack and default
15:29 VanessaE looks like the dust I use for titanium dioxide :-)
15:29 RealBadAngel i do make Haven TP also
15:29 VanessaE now, bbl for real
15:29 NekoGloop oh I'll just colorize that ;)
15:29 RealBadAngel have you forgot? :P
15:30 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: you will get more people if your textures dont make default look like crap
15:30 RealBadAngel make them so i will dowscale them later
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15:30 RealBadAngel rotfl
15:30 RealBadAngel i thought thats the point to make TP
15:30 NekoGloop I'm being serious
15:31 NekoGloop no
15:31 NekoGloop TP's are to cover up the good default textures
15:31 NekoGloop imo TP support should be removed
15:32 RealBadAngel there are many differnt TP's
15:32 RealBadAngel look at my post
15:32 RealBadAngel 1st sentence
15:32 NekoGloop and the default textures are perfectly fine.
15:32 RealBadAngel made to fit my taste
15:32 Keegan what mod should i do now
15:32 RealBadAngel and maybe yours too
15:32 Keegan should i do diifferent type of doors?
15:33 NekoGloop Keegan: one that gives you your own ideas
15:33 Keegan or make a wndow mod
15:33 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: I'm making a "fixed" TP that makes mods like yours fit in with default, while not editing default.
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15:34 RealBadAngel lol
15:34 NekoGloop (actually it changes the steel sword texture to fit with the rest of them as well)
15:34 NekoGloop Since the mod makers are often idiots and dont add 16x support
15:35 RealBadAngel oh ty sir
15:35 NekoGloop Example: your wire texture is overkill
15:35 RealBadAngel i do provide 32x :P
15:35 NakedFury maybe those mod makers dont care abut 16x at all
15:35 NakedFury about
15:35 RealBadAngel neko: its not a texture in fact
15:35 RealBadAngel kind of
15:36 NekoGloop Fine, be total asses about people who dont want to spare 20Mb+ to have a single mod fit in
15:36 RealBadAngel wires are generated in a loop
15:36 RealBadAngel to make 64 nodes out of nothing :P
15:36 RealBadAngel and it uses only one 32x texture
15:37 RealBadAngel take a look at wires.lua
15:37 NekoGloop how about no?
15:38 RealBadAngel wanna make textures for every 64 nodes?
15:38 RealBadAngel youre welcome
15:38 Keegan have anyone made different types of doors?
15:38 NekoGloop Or you could make the freakin gold chests use an OVERLAY
15:38 RealBadAngel you will have a crate of beer on me then :)
15:38 NekoGloop ?
15:39 NekoGloop you want me to make gold chests use an overlay?
15:39 RealBadAngel because theyre NODES?
15:39 RealBadAngel and cant generate overlays in game?
15:39 NekoGloop NODES like moreores' ores use OVERLAYS
15:39 NekoGloop >.>
15:40 RealBadAngel and are fucked up when comes to another resolution TP
15:40 NekoGloop well then use 16x ;)
15:40 RealBadAngel ive predefined them and thats ok
15:40 NekoGloop -gasp- lower loading time
15:41 NekoGloop So... predictable >.>
15:41 NekoGloop There is a noticable slowdown when minetest gets to loading your textures.
15:41 RealBadAngel mine?
15:41 RealBadAngel :P
15:41 RealBadAngel try vanessa's
15:42 NekoGloop no i mean from your mod
15:42 RealBadAngel here my game starts 4-5s
15:42 RealBadAngel with MUSIC
15:42 RealBadAngel so stfu
15:42 NekoGloop keep in mind not everyone has stolen a supercomputer from nasa
15:42 * PilzAdam has
15:42 RealBadAngel i did?
15:43 RealBadAngel brb
15:43 NekoGloop otherwise you wouldnt be able to load minetest VANILLA in 2-5s >.>
15:43 NekoGloop 4-5s*
15:43 Calinou <NekoGloop> NODES like moreores' ores use OVERLAYS
15:43 Calinou silly c55, yeah :<
15:43 Calinou overlayed textures are bad
15:44 NekoGloop overlayed textures add more TP support
15:44 NekoGloop which shouldnt be there either but..
15:44 PilzAdam NekoGloop, 5s
15:44 PilzAdam intel core i7 1st generation
15:44 NekoGloop I cant load minetest VANILLA within 20s
15:44 PilzAdam windows........
15:45 NekoGloop ofc i use windows
15:45 NekoGloop you know that already
15:45 PilzAdam cause and effect
15:45 NekoGloop RealBadAngel needs to keep in mind not everyone can force more out of minetest than is pshysically possible.
15:45 PilzAdam you use windows -> slow
15:46 NekoGloop excuse me?
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15:46 Calinou windows is sometimes the fastest; keep in mind the graphic drivers
15:47 Calinou performance can be good in linux, yes, but you need some luck
15:47 NekoGloop this computer running linux, which I had for a -very- short time as dualboot, is slower
15:47 NekoGloop so shove it
15:48 NekoGloop oh, no smart-alleck remarks this time?
15:50 whirm I'm terribly sorry to interrupt your battle, but what's the maximum depth you can dig in minetest?
15:50 NakedFury 31k
15:51 NakedFury same as the max height
15:51 whirm ok, Ill stop digging now
15:51 cornernote_ where do i request mods moved to Mod Releases now ?
15:51 PilzAdam <31k
15:51 PilzAdam something about 30900
15:51 PilzAdam cornernote_, here
15:51 NekoGloop cornernote_:  ask politely when VanessaE is here
15:51 cornernote ok
15:52 NakedFury ask calinou, cisoun, sfan5, xyz, vanessa or celeron
15:52 PilzAdam NekoGloop, there are also xyz and Calinou
15:52 whirm what ores are in the default minetest?
15:52 NakedFury iron
15:52 NakedFury coal
15:52 PilzAdam coal, iron and mese
15:52 NakedFury thats it
15:52 whirm mese?
15:52 PilzAdam like diamond
15:52 whirm ah
15:52 cornernote if VanessaE or any forum mod here, can you please move my 2 new releases?
15:53 NekoGloop PilzAdam: they actually look to see if the mod is any godd first ;)
15:53 NekoGloop good*
15:53 whirm are they distributed in depths and veins like in minecraft or is something random?
15:53 cornernote >> PilzAdam: The velocity to the sides is too slow for that. ... what do you mean by that ?
15:53 cornernote items fall off the edge for me
15:54 NekoGloop whirm: coal == everywhere, iron == below 20Y (I think), mese below -64.
15:54 PilzAdam cornernote, realy
15:54 cornernote if you are 3 away, and no floor
15:54 NekoGloop randomness in vein generation
15:54 cornernote gravity pulls them down
15:54 cornernote right ?
15:54 PilzAdam yes
15:54 PilzAdam but they get a random side velocity
15:54 cornernote yep, thats what i mean
15:54 whirm NekoGloop: thanks a lot for the info
15:54 cornernote yeah, so even an item with a floor may shoot off the edge
15:55 PilzAdam and this velocity is not strong enough to pull them from they positon too far
15:55 cornernote makes it more fun, cos you have to stay close
15:55 cornernote ahh, i see
15:55 cornernote but if its at y+3 then its enough
15:55 whirm wow, how did I came to have air in my inventory?
15:55 PilzAdam in Minecraft the velocity is stronge
15:55 PilzAdam *stronger
15:55 cornernote i never played mc
15:55 Calinou whirm, random
15:55 PilzAdam ive seen vids
15:55 whirm "Air (you hacker you!)" << ??
15:55 Calinou they're not (really) veins
15:55 Calinou O_o
15:56 Calinou did you just do /giveme air
15:56 whirm nope
15:56 PilzAdam I get air too
15:56 Calinou are you playing the minimal game or minetest_game?
15:56 PilzAdam without giveme
15:56 cornernote really ?
15:56 Calinou I don't
15:56 NekoGloop whirm: you're on sdzen's server, right?
15:56 cornernote digging it ?
15:56 Calinou git must be borked
15:56 cornernote i never got air
15:56 whirm nope
15:56 whirm local map
15:56 NekoGloop lol
15:56 NekoGloop well the
15:56 NekoGloop then*
15:56 PilzAdam there was lag and my item_drop mod creates a air item
15:56 Calinou whirm, play the minetest_game not minimal
15:56 Calinou http://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
15:56 whirm I'm playing the normal game I think, let me check
15:57 NekoGloop using item_drop?
15:57 whirm yup, minetest, not minimal
15:57 NekoGloop it leads to all kinds of errors.
15:57 NekoGloop not just air
15:57 whirm just created a new world, jumped up a hill and cut down a tree
15:57 NekoGloop timber mod?
15:57 whirm less than two minutes of gameplay
15:58 whirm nope, vanilla minetest from git
15:58 NekoGloop worldgen may not have finished; allow it to run for a few more minutes.
15:58 PilzAdam oh yes i forgett to mention: timber mod + item_drop + lag = air
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15:58 PilzAdam 4x air to be precise
15:59 NekoGloop (unless the tree magically is somehow shorter)
15:59 PilzAdam it wast a tree it was papyrus
15:59 PilzAdam ive disabled the timber mod for trees
15:59 PilzAdam only cactus and papyrus
16:00 NekoGloop lol
16:00 NekoGloop not much of a -timber- mod then is it?
16:02 NekoGloop NOW IM ON GOLD
16:02 whirm how comes lag influences in the type of block added to the inventory?
16:02 Calinou it doesn't
16:03 NekoGloop YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF THE LAG'S ATTACK!!!
16:03 whirm XDDDD
16:03 PilzAdam whirm, where do you get so many mouths
16:03 NekoGloop Random Mother reference is random
16:04 whirm PilzAdam: from the chinese shop down the street, they are quite cheap
16:04 * PilzAdam goes buying some mouths
16:04 PilzAdam XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
16:05 PilzAdam i have more than you
16:05 NekoGloop XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
16:05 NekoGloop And I'm a theif :D
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16:05 * NekoGloop runs from the angry chinese people from whom he stole the mouths
16:06 NekoGloop :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
16:06 PilzAdam ive created a rpg game for minetest: i call it RPG-Test
16:06 Keegan help http://pastebin.com/fquFB32S
16:06 PilzAdam is that a self made mod Keegan?
16:06 Keegan knda
16:07 PilzAdam giveme code
16:07 Keegan ok
16:07 Keegan from download?
16:07 PilzAdam pastebin
16:07 NekoGloop pastebin is a wonderful invention
16:08 RealBadAngel wooohoo, ores dust and smeltin it again works
16:08 RealBadAngel flawless victory ;)
16:08 PilzAdam github also has something like this, NekoGloop
16:08 Keegan http://pastebin.com/P8VxkVeV
16:09 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_opBqRtPTDE THIS IS UN OWEN!!!!
16:09 RealBadAngel shall be forbidden
16:09 PilzAdam Keegan, add "end" at line 199 to close the function at line 172
16:09 RealBadAngel to paste such shit ;)
16:10 NekoGloop What?
16:10 RealBadAngel that link
16:10 NekoGloop UN Owen + Sparta = Awesome
16:10 Keegan ok
16:10 RealBadAngel hehehe
16:10 RealBadAngel im gonna start mt
16:11 RealBadAngel and play a MUSIC
16:11 NekoGloop At least I didnt post the lyrical japanese version ;)
16:11 PilzAdam Keegan, registger_on_dignode is deprecated: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L789
16:11 RealBadAngel thats why music players are made for ;)
16:11 NekoGloop PilzAdam: I'm pretty sure such a function never existed ;)
16:11 PilzAdam Keegan, use on_dig = function... in the node defintion instead
16:11 RealBadAngel yeah
16:11 RealBadAngel much better
16:12 Keegan what lne?
16:12 Keegan lne*
16:12 NekoGloop ~MAGIC~
16:12 cornernote im thinking of making some ABMs so that you can get more basic blocks... mossy cobble, cactus, papyrus .. all really need to grow
16:12 PilzAdam the whole code
16:12 Keegan line*
16:12 RealBadAngel mt as a music player works great hehehe
16:12 cornernote well, mossycobble doesnt grow.. it becomes mossy =)
16:12 Keegan where do i put it at?
16:12 NekoGloop cornernote: at least saplings/seeds from those two, like trees.
16:13 PilzAdam Keegan,  in the node defintions at line 15 and 36
16:14 Keegan ok what do  put agan
16:14 Keegan got it
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16:16 NekoGloop hewwo Jeija :3
16:17 Calinou hi
16:17 PilzAdam Keegan, replace all the functions from line 202 to 204 with functions from here: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1349
16:17 Calinou Jeija, can you specify a license for your throwing mod so that I can add it to mod releases forum?
16:18 Jeija eeehm let's say WTFPL
16:18 PilzAdam Jeija, are you still supporting your throwing mod?
16:18 PilzAdam you can use the strings from my farming mod
16:18 Keegan ok
16:18 Jeija Actually no
16:18 leo_rockway hello, peeps
16:18 leo_rockway PilzAdam: those scarecrows are awesome!
16:19 PilzAdam th
16:19 PilzAdam *thx
16:20 Keegan still say error
16:21 cornernote PilzAdam, yeah, i stole trees from there, i might steal more to get cactus/papyrus
16:22 Keegan error >> http://pastebin.com/pQU9314i
16:24 leo_rockway PilzAdam: you're right about the buckets not having tooltips, I forgot about that. It had bugged me too o.o
16:26 Keegan error http://pastebin.com/pQU9314i
16:26 PilzAdam leo_rockway, i added tooltips for rubber because there might be people out there that didnt know what the texture belongs too
16:27 PilzAdam Keegan, "Joyce" is a nice username :)
16:27 RealBadAngel oke doke, got whole code for grinder done
16:27 PilzAdam Keegan, give me the part with ==Lua Error== and the new code
16:28 RealBadAngel now just textures for it, and will upload
16:28 leo_rockway PilzAdam: neat =]
16:29 Keegan joyce s the person who i bought it from
16:29 leo_rockway cornernote: in the skyblock video I watched the guy used iceblocks instead of a water of bucket.
16:29 Keegan http://pastebin.com/6niFBqwq
16:29 leo_rockway in that way you can give the player a bucket of lava and a block of ice...
16:29 leo_rockway there are ice in snow mod
16:29 leo_rockway they don't convert to water when mined, but that could be changed
16:29 leo_rockway I believe they convert to water when melted with a fire source, though.
16:30 NekoGloop on_dig place_node(water_source)?
16:30 NekoGloop or something like that
16:36 cornernote hey RBA, can you make a powered mining machine with an inventory?
16:36 cornernote eg, water + lava = stone, can you harvest the stone over and over ?
16:37 cornernote that would be a cool addon for skyblock
16:37 cornernote uber
16:37 NekoGloop this wouldnt be so bad if I was at least looking at something on youtube like minecraft mods
16:37 NekoGloop but no I'm watching someone put a PS2 disc in a PS3 slim.
16:37 * NekoGloop facepalm
16:38 whirm NekoGloop: at least it's not a n64 cardtrige
16:38 whirm or a cup
16:39 NekoGloop LOL
16:39 NekoGloop someone put a cookie in their xbox360...
16:39 NekoGloop Surprisingly it recognized it as a xbox360 disc
16:39 whirm when I was 18 a guy came to the computer shop where I worked and told us that its cupholder wouldn't open anymore
16:40 NekoGloop LOL
16:40 whirm turns out he spilled coffe on the cd tray and it got glued because of the sugar..
16:41 NekoGloop idiot.
16:41 NekoGloop what'd you say to him?
16:41 whirm oh, I was on the back fixing stuff, I preffer not to deal with this kind of people XD
16:42 NekoGloop lol
16:42 NekoGloop what did he get told though?
16:42 whirm I don't remember, but they shop guy was always making up stuff
16:43 NekoGloop lol
16:43 whirm once he told a customer its modem was defibrilated
16:43 whirm and needed to buy a new one
16:43 whirm they where the biggest pirates of the mediterranean coast
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16:45 vicscandl }}yawn{{
16:46 * NekoGloop gets a megashone
16:46 * NekoGloop points it in vicsandl's ear
16:46 NekoGloop GOOD MORNING
16:47 leo_rockway I have a friend who worked fixing computers. He gets a call from a woman at 4am, she was desperate because she had to print her doctorate thesis and her printer wasn't working...
16:48 leo_rockway he's pissed she's calling at 4am. He asks her to pick her printer up...
16:48 leo_rockway the woman is like "what?"
16:48 leo_rockway he repeats that she needs to pick the printer up in her hands
16:48 leo_rockway so she does it
16:48 leo_rockway then he asks her to walk 5 steps back
16:48 leo_rockway so the woman again is like "wait... WHAT!?"
16:48 leo_rockway but my friend insists, so she complies
16:49 leo_rockway so then he asks her "can you walk 5 steps back more?"
16:49 leo_rockway the woman says yes
16:49 leo_rockway so my friend replies "then don't be an idiot and plug in the f**king printer!"
16:49 whirm heh
16:49 PilzAdam lol
16:50 leo_rockway she was actually relieved she could print her _doctorate_ thesis.
16:50 NekoGloop OMG LOL
16:50 NekoGloop people these days >.>
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16:50 leo_rockway I wouldn't give a doctorate to a person like that >.<
16:51 whirm I would make her walk backwards until she fell trough the balcony
16:51 leo_rockway xD
16:51 NekoGloop XD
16:51 * vicscandl fires up the coffee pot...
16:51 vicscandl whirm: ++
16:51 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvsiU1njEg&amp;feature=g-vrec tennis between the two best minecraft reviewer... people...
16:52 whirm is there a tennis mod?
16:52 whirm wtf
16:52 NekoGloop no
16:52 NekoGloop just enchanted shovels and a villager
16:52 NekoGloop Knockback X, VIII, etc.
16:53 NekoGloop which reminds me, enchanting in minetest would be awesome
16:54 leo_rockway I have no idea how enchanting works in MC
16:54 leo_rockway I'm watching a series of videos call "how to survive and thrive"
16:54 leo_rockway and I actually played MC for about 5 hours the other day
16:54 NekoGloop lol
16:54 leo_rockway so I can see what we're doing well and what we're doing wrong.
16:55 leo_rockway I think MT is faster, prettier, and overall better. We just need better mobs.
16:55 leo_rockway and shift + click in inventories o.o
16:55 NekoGloop enchanting pulls random enchant-levels based on the amount of bookcases(?) near the enchanting table. these numbers correspond to various enchant-types, like knockback and silk touch.
16:56 leo_rockway oh, I heard about silk touch... I dn't remember what it does, though.
16:56 NekoGloop lets you get different drops
16:56 NekoGloop for example ice is actually minable.
16:56 * vicscandl has the cheese touch...
16:56 leo_rockway NekoGloop: oh, right.
16:56 NekoGloop glowstone doesnt turn into glowstone shards (or whatever they are)
16:57 vicscandl i wish tickets from work could > /udev/random
16:57 NekoGloop etc.
16:57 * VanessaE wanders in
16:57 leo_rockway wouldn't > /dev/null be better?
16:57 NekoGloop VanessaE is back! :D
16:58 vicscandl leo_rockway: why erase when you can scramble?
16:58 * leo_rockway high-fives VanessaE
16:58 VanessaE hi
16:58 leo_rockway vicscandl: because my next ticket for you would be "solve the scrambling" o.o
16:58 NekoGloop "welcome to the unethical treatment of villagers" LOL ANTVENOM
16:58 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvsiU1njEg&amp;feature=g-vrec
16:58 vicscandl leo_rockway: i've a 2pass trash system at this house.. :)
16:59 vicscandl scramble all bits in the file, then > /dev/null
16:59 leo_rockway that works =]
16:59 leo_rockway maybe shred too
16:59 vicscandl not that i need to with encryptedfs, but its a throwback to the days of old
16:59 NekoGloop print it, shred it, then burn the shreddings
17:01 vicscandl todays codetunes: http://www.psychedelik.com/flux/tunein-prog.pls
17:07 NekoGloop since when did youtube smack commercials on long vids?
17:08 PilzAdam you cant smelt snow or ice in the furnace
17:08 VanessaE since a couple years ago
17:08 PilzAdam should be added to the snow biome mod
17:08 VanessaE (most of us don't see such ads though, thanks to adblock plus)
17:08 NekoGloop no I mean regular breaks
17:09 VanessaE so do I
17:09 NekoGloop not the thing at the beginning
17:09 VanessaE of course blame Hulu for that, they kinda started that trend >:-(
17:10 NekoGloop no blame the person who made the internet
17:10 NekoGloop that always works
17:10 leo_rockway Al Gore? (?)
17:10 VanessaE GAH! punk'd :-)
17:10 VanessaE I was gonna say that :-)
17:10 leo_rockway \o/
17:12 vicscandl "its just all tubes"
17:12 * VanessaE mumbles something about a dump truck
17:12 * NekoGloop mumbles something abotu a precious
17:13 leo_rockway I sent my assistant an internet yesterday and it hasn't arrived him, because the tubes are filled with useless stuff.
17:13 * VanessaE fills the tubes with more useless stuff
17:13 VanessaE you know the sad part is, the guy was right
17:14 leo_rockway I need to hear that interview again. It's so funny.
17:14 * Calinou fills the tubes with youtube
17:14 Calinou ^ what actually happens
17:14 Calinou and facebook
17:14 VanessaE I mean, his analogy isn't really too far off from what most of us use anyway
17:14 leo_rockway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE
17:17 VanessaE I take it back
17:17 VanessaE this guy's a fucking idiot
17:17 RealBadAngel is there a way to override server sent sounds like with the textures/all
17:17 RealBadAngel ?
17:17 VanessaE never heard the whole recording before
17:18 Calinou this will be added to next minecraft release: http://i.imgur.com/g7tDq.png
17:18 * Calinou holds software patent for stairsplus panels, again
17:18 Calinou :<
17:19 * Calinou sues mojang
17:19 leo_rockway VanessaE: it's funny.
17:19 Calinou RealBadAngel, unfortunately, no :/
17:19 Calinou gtg
17:19 leo_rockway imgur is blocked here...
17:20 * leo_rockway wgets from the server.
17:20 VanessaE leo_rockway: <Abe> What the hell did he just say?
17:20 VanessaE leo_rockway: <me> He went a whole long way to say not a fucking thing :-)
17:20 NekoGloop Technically those arent panels, those are glorified fences
17:20 leo_rockway VanessaE: hehe, yes!
17:21 NakedFury they are just stone fences
17:21 NakedFury took them too long to include them
17:21 VanessaE NakedFury, NekoGloop:  Wall slabs.
17:21 VanessaE not panels.
17:21 leo_rockway they are stone walls with a stone slab every couple of blocks.
17:21 leo_rockway what's new in that?
17:22 leo_rockway VanessaE: top comment:
17:22 leo_rockway and those tubes are full of cats
17:22 VanessaE what's wrong with being full of cats? :-3
17:23 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
17:24 VanessaE better that than commercials and ads :-)
17:25 darkrose RealBadAngel: I *think* textures/all works for sounds too
17:25 NekoGloop Because cats are cute~ :3
17:25 jin_xi but can you use them as fuel?
17:25 leo_rockway VanessaE: nothing wrong.
17:25 leo_rockway I thought it was funny.
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17:26 frogcrush Anyone know if Minetest will run on Multipoint Server?
17:26 RealBadAngel hmmmm
17:26 RealBadAngel gonna check this out
17:26 RealBadAngel i mean my music player
17:26 RealBadAngel so it could be able to play music even in multiplayer
17:26 darkrose if I remember the way path resolution works, it should
17:27 RealBadAngel i will put then my tracks into textures/all
17:27 RealBadAngel we will c
17:28 NekoGloop jin_xi: you can use nyancats as furnace fuel, yes ;)
17:28 VanessaE talk about an expensive fuel
17:28 NekoGloop it doesnt even burn that long
17:28 leo_rockway VanessaE: he's basically saying that using the internets to stream huge files ads to the latency of the overall network, so when people want to use the net for "legitimate" purposes, the internets is too slow to take the load.
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17:29 leo_rockway adds*
17:29 darkrose frogcrush: no idea, try it and let us know
17:29 leo_rockway or at least that's what I gathered from it.
17:29 frogcrush ok, I will try
17:29 frogcrush Downloading 2012 beta now
17:32 RealBadAngel @darkrose: checked, no go
17:33 RealBadAngel moved my oggs to /textures/all , cleared cache
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17:35 cornernote are you here PilzAdam?
17:35 cornernote how do i get seeds ?
17:36 vicscandl RealBadAngel: bummer
17:36 RealBadAngel ?
17:37 PilzAdam cornernote, digging grass with hoes
17:37 vicscandl RealBadAngel: sounds not spreading to clients, you said a no go
17:37 RealBadAngel hmmmm wait a sec
17:37 RealBadAngel i do have my own defined sounds
17:38 vicscandl sorry, i'm halfreading my backlog apparently
17:38 vicscandl tell me to STFU and go back to my real work please.. thanks.
17:38 RealBadAngel i do keep them in my mod /sounds
17:38 RealBadAngel when connected to server, it wont overwrite them?
17:38 RealBadAngel mod is bein sent
17:38 NekoGloop vicscandl: STFU amd go back to your real work.
17:39 vicscandl ty, be back in an hour
17:39 vicscandl haha
17:39 leo_rockway cornernote: you get more seeds with better hoes.
17:39 VanessaE haha
17:41 RealBadAngel i guess i will have to make test run with the server then
17:41 RealBadAngel locally it doesnt work
17:41 cornernote i gave me the best hoe
17:41 cornernote and still no seeds
17:41 cornernote 100 dirts later
17:41 cornernote strange
17:42 RealBadAngel uploading update with music player disabled then
17:42 RealBadAngel will have to wait when tested in MP
17:45 VanessaE bbl
17:45 NekoGloop you keep saying that
17:46 cornernote oh, seeds only come from dirt_with_grass
17:50 NakedFury dammit this kitkat is messing with my stomach
17:51 NekoGloop sowwie
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18:01 NakedFury ohh hey
18:01 NakedFury wrong window
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18:05 Keegan_ whats coal in the ground called?
18:06 NekoGloop default:stone_with_coal
18:06 NekoGloop but dont use it to craft
18:06 Keegan_ no its a mod
18:07 NekoGloop well how the hell do you expect me to know?
18:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8YDGI41mpQ&amp;feature=related Nyan nyan nyan~ :3
18:24 NekoGloop I need to perservere on my mod
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18:36 PilzAdam gtg
18:36 PilzAdam bye
18:36 Keegan_ when  place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that
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18:37 Keegan_ when  place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that
18:41 FreeFull cornernote: I started a skyblock world and there is nothing for me to stand on, so I just fall and die
18:42 FreeFull Oh, this time there is a nyancat
18:42 FreeFull It wasn't there the first time
18:42 whirm lol, nyancat to the rescue!
18:43 FreeFull Seems the nyancat doesn't appear the first time I get into the world
18:43 NekoGloop LOL
18:43 FreeFull Only the second time
18:44 FreeFull Actually, not nyancat
18:44 FreeFull Rainbow block
18:44 FreeFull But you get what I mean
18:45 FreeFull And of course you lose your items when you die
18:45 Keegan_ when  place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that
18:46 FreeFull Temporary solution, start a new skyblock world and then quit right after
18:46 FreeFull So when you go into it again you're on the rainbow block
18:47 Keegan_ when  place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that??
18:48 NekoGloop nyancat rainbow?
18:48 FreeFull cornernote: Is mining stone meant to sometimes give me sand?
18:55 FreeFull Ok, after getting into the skyblock world, wait a while, because any blocks you place might disappear for no reason :/
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18:56 FreeFull The rainbow block thing is really unreliable :/
18:58 FreeFull Oh god
18:58 FreeFull The rainbow block disappeared below my feet
18:59 FreeFull I'll just /give myself the default stuff, since otherwise is a pain right now
19:02 tripod NekoGloop: as if not just tell me i need professional help
19:02 * tripod kisses NekoGloop
19:02 * NekoGloop ...
19:02 NekoGloop Go away creep
19:03 tripod be quiet moron
19:03 NekoGloop No
19:03 tripod well i wont go away then.
19:05 vicscandl all this furnace talk...
19:05 * vicscandl loads his water based furnace with some smokable medication...
19:06 FreeFull Oh no
19:07 FreeFull Oh, nevermind
19:07 FreeFull I'm fine
19:07 vicscandl ok, fine
19:09 FreeFull I thought I had no way to break stone anymore but I still had wood
19:14 FreeFull cornernote: How about, if lava or water hit the bottom of the world, they just disappear rather than spreading out
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19:19 _2cool That was wierd
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19:27 NekoGloop hewwo Jeija :D
19:27 FreeFull Ok, this is a pretty good set-up
19:28 Jeija Hi NekoGloop! Just pushed a lot of changes to mesecons again: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons (Rules for conductors, allows vertical, isolated mesecons)
19:28 FreeFull NekoGloop: I can't blame vicscandl, gloops are very tempting to kiss
19:29 NekoGloop its not vicscandl lol
19:31 NekoGloop Jeija: Cool, getting it now.
19:34 NekoGloop I REALLY NEED TO MAKE MY FREAKIN MOD
19:34 NekoGloop NOT WATCH SLENDER VIDEOS >.>
19:35 NekoGloop (I have some really... unique tastes)
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19:40 FreeFull NekoGloop: Woops, meant tripod
19:40 NekoGloop lol
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19:43 vicscandl hahahahha
19:43 NickNameGoesHere what
19:43 vicscandl exactly
19:43 NickNameGoesHere I've been here before
19:44 vicscandl huh?
19:44 NickNameGoesHere Trust me
19:44 vicscandl how is that relevant?
19:44 NickNameGoesHere Idk
19:44 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zrpleeeYb4&amp;feature=related 524
19:45 NickNameGoesHere That was random
19:45 NickNameGoesHere and annoying
19:45 vicscandl Jeija: whoop! will update my copy later tonight... tickets at work, getting default mods to not spam debug due to api change.. :)
19:46 NekoGloop It's matryoshka
19:46 NekoGloop get over it
19:46 Jeija :) Just in case the new version doesn't work, you can still use the stable http://mesecons.ohost.de/
19:46 NekoGloop awesome song
19:46 FreeFull NekoGloop: I definitely would kiss you if you wanted it
19:46 NekoGloop HELL NO
19:47 NickNameGoesHere Don't try to post that spam debug here.
19:47 NekoGloop FreeFull: HELL NO
19:47 NickNameGoesHere This was a discussion between Neko, RBA, and the late _2cool4me4_ yesterday
19:48 NekoGloop Thought you were 2cool
19:48 NickNameGoesHere Shhh
19:48 NekoGloop :D
19:48 NickNameGoesHere :/
19:48 vicscandl NekoGloop: his ip already gave him up
19:48 NekoGloop HE'S 2COOL4ME4 :D
19:48 * FreeFull kisses tripod
19:49 NickNameGoesHere I got un K-lined then!
19:49 NickNameGoesHere Let's celebrate!
19:50 NickNameGoesHere Was it something I said?
19:50 NekoGloop no you spammed the same message too much
19:50 NickNameGoesHere yeah...
19:50 NickNameGoesHere And then I got hit with a K-bar
19:51 NickNameGoesHere Anything interesting happen here?
19:51 NekoGloop nope
19:52 NickNameGoesHere oh...
19:53 NekoGloop I've been harrassed by tripod, if you missed that
19:53 NickNameGoesHere I think I was here for that
19:53 NekoGloop ok
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19:53 NickNameGoesHere Remember? I slapped him
19:54 NickNameGoesHere like this:
19:54 * NickNameGoesHere slaps NekoGloop with a 4r8a9inbow trout
19:54 NekoGloop >.>
19:54 NekoGloop her*
19:54 NickNameGoesHere my bad
19:54 NickNameGoesHere Interesting...
19:54 NekoGloop I have none lol
19:55 NickNameGoesHere you're on webchat
19:55 NekoGloop i know
19:55 NekoGloop brb
19:55 NickNameGoesHere and now, so do I
19:55 * NickHere[A] is now away - Reason : I'm going away
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19:56 NekoGloop There we go
19:57 NekoGloop :P
19:57 NekoGloop anyone there now lol
19:59 NekoGloop did he just leave as I left?
20:00 vicscandl music: http://divbyzero.de/va.pls  ... its using samples from the movie pi... frikin hawt
20:00 NekoGloop lol
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20:00 vicscandl ... if you grab any series of numbers, a pattern emerges ...
20:00 NekoGloop kewl
20:01 vicscandl the office is forced to have me be the dj
20:01 vicscandl sucks to be them
20:01 NekoGloop LOL
20:01 vicscandl last time we hired, i had 3 of 15 quit because i was playing cliqhop for like 12h straight
20:02 NekoGloop LOLOLOLOL
20:02 vicscandl rule here is this; if you don't like my music, buy better headphones
20:03 vicscandl cool thing for them is that they know when i'm around...
20:03 NekoGloop lol
20:05 NekoGloop WE
20:05 NekoGloop NEED
20:05 NekoGloop A
20:05 NekoGloop BETTER
20:05 NekoGloop MOBS
20:05 NekoGloop MOD
20:05 NekoGloop there I said it
20:07 NekoGloop oh my god my tools are gonna be so OP
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20:07 NekoGloop Large Mithril Sword is gonna wipe the floor with anyone
20:07 NekoGloop good thing it's not exactly easy to craft lol
20:08 NickHere[A] I'm sure that's true
20:08 NekoGloop well large is 2x the normal item's stats
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20:09 NekoGloop and also uses... 9 ingots
20:10 NekoGloop (large sword uses 9)
20:10 NickNameGoesHere Of what?
20:10 NekoGloop of its material
20:11 NekoGloop large wood sword uses 9 wood and 2 sticks
20:11 NekoGloop large mithril sword uses 9 mithril ingots and 2 sticks
20:11 NekoGloop etc.
20:11 NickNameGoesHere You know what's cool?
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20:12 NekoGloop ?
20:12 NekoGloop no i do not
20:12 NekoGloop so tell me
20:12 NickNameGoesHere I'm using windows speech recognition to chat right now
20:12 NekoGloop LOL
20:12 NekoGloop i would need a mic for that
20:12 NickNameGoesHere I have a headset microphone
20:12 NekoGloop i would need a headset
20:13 NickNameGoesHere That's not true
20:13 NekoGloop :P
20:13 NickNameGoesHere You could use a regular microphone.
20:13 NekoGloop i dare you to try to make a emoticon using windows speech recognition
20:14 NickNameGoesHere :-)
20:15 NickNameGoesHere Like that?
20:15 NekoGloop nice
20:15 NekoGloop took ya long enough ;)
20:15 NickNameGoesHere I know
20:15 * NekoGloop kicks NickNameGoesHere
20:16 NickNameGoesHere I couldn't put the parentheses in
20:16 NekoGloop then use a 3
20:16 NekoGloop :3
20:17 NickNameGoesHere Sorry I didn't think of that.
20:17 NickNameGoesHere This is exasperating
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20:17 NickNameGoesHere But I can spell much better this way
20:17 NekoGloop lol
20:18 * NickNameGoesHere stops using speech recognition
20:20 NickNameGoesHere The ping threshold is very large around here
20:21 NekoGloop yup
20:23 NekoGloop Large Gold Pick... so OP
20:23 NickNameGoesHere What's it made of?
20:23 NekoGloop Gold
20:23 NekoGloop uhm...
20:23 NickNameGoesHere lol
20:23 NickNameGoesHere But gold IS a very soft metal
20:23 NekoGloop 7 gold 4 sticks
20:24 sdzen and a wood pick would break before you got cobblestone
20:24 NekoGloop lol didnt see you there
20:25 sdzen hopping into conversation at inopportune times
20:25 NekoGloop LOL
20:25 NekoGloop if you were waiting for the opportune moment... that was it.
20:25 NekoGloop - Capt. Jack Sparrow
20:26 NekoGloop is there anything that actually has {crumbly=1} lol
20:26 NickNameGoesHere What does crumbly do?
20:26 NekoGloop dirt etc.
20:26 NekoGloop it's a group
20:27 NekoGloop dirt and gravel have it in vanilla
20:27 NickNameGoesHere it's the things that fall then?
20:27 NekoGloop nonono
20:27 NekoGloop that's {falling_node=1}
20:27 NickNameGoesHere oh
20:27 NekoGloop {crumbly=#} is used for making sure shovels mine it faster
20:27 NickNameGoesHere ohhhh
20:27 NekoGloop (or mine it at all)
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20:28 NekoGloop cracky is for stone etc., and choppy is for wood etc.
20:28 NickNameGoesHere there's two of them!
20:28 NekoGloop The other neko hath arrived :D
20:29 NickNameGoesHere what does he do?
20:29 NekoGloop mod
20:29 NekoGloop come to the channel then not speak a word
20:29 NickNameGoesHere other neko is boring
20:30 NekoGloop yes he is :D
20:31 NekoGloop random xyz ragequit?
20:31 thexyz joined #minetest
20:31 NekoGloop LOL
20:31 NickNameGoesHere whatever happened to the /spawn command?
20:31 NekoGloop i think its only in a certain mod
20:31 NickNameGoesHere I see
20:31 NekoGloop of which i dont have
20:32 NickNameGoesHere I should get the sethome mod.
20:32 NekoGloop yes you should :D
20:32 NekoGloop because its EPICZ
20:32 NickNameGoesHere why, is that yours?
20:32 NekoGloop nope
20:32 NekoGloop it's thexyz's if I'm not utterly mistaken
20:32 NickNameGoesHere I seem to be out of the group without Lua knowledge
20:33 NekoGloop then get some
20:33 NekoGloop :D
20:33 NekoGloop not that hard
20:33 NekoGloop just dont reference lua_api.txt, it's old and deprecated. Like all the old and deprecated functions in it
20:34 vicscandl Jeija: submitted ticket to your github
20:36 ttk2 joined #minetest
20:36 NekoGloop augh
20:36 NickNameGoesHere what did you do now
20:36 NekoGloop can someone help me make a lua loop to register a sh*tload of tools and crafts?
20:37 NickNameGoesHere Shouldn't we be told that we are being logged?
20:37 NekoGloop ?
20:37 NickNameGoesHere logging bot in the nick list
20:37 NakedFury you mean in irc?
20:37 NickNameGoesHere yep
20:38 NakedFury ok
20:38 NakedFury this chat is being logged
20:38 thexyz doesn't its name tell it?
20:38 NekoGloop well anyone with half a mind knows "loggingbot" logs the channel >.>
20:38 NickNameGoesHere But I've only got the quarter :(
20:38 NakedFury I dont see anything bad with it
20:38 NickNameGoesHere Neither do I
20:38 NekoGloop that way if I do something really stupid i can look back in the log
20:39 NekoGloop and laugh at the stupidity of others
20:39 * NickHere[A] is now away - Reason : Mehunger
20:39 NekoGloop he hungers.
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20:44 * NickNameGoesHere is no longer away : Gone for 4 minutes 25 seconds
20:44 * sdzen was never away: Gone for -10 minutes -2 seconds
20:45 NickNameGoesHere o.o
20:45 jin_xi >_>
20:46 NekoGloop I AM 3 SETS OF TOOLS AWAY FROM BEING DONE!!!!!!
20:47 * sdzen sends virus
20:47 NekoGloop lol ya right
20:49 NekoGloop Can someone help me make a lua loop for registering a sh*tload of tools and crafts?
20:50 jin_xi NekoGloop: probably
20:50 NekoGloop ...
20:51 NekoGloop take that as a no
20:51 NakedFury lua loop?
20:52 NekoGloop similar to moreores' definition cycle
20:52 NakedFury copy it and include it in credits and stuff?
20:52 NekoGloop -similar- not -exactly like-
20:53 NekoGloop I want tools not ores
20:55 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2801
20:55 NekoGloop IceChat is a retard with links >.>
20:56 NickNameGoesHere yep
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20:56 NekoGloop thexyz: link that again please
20:57 NakedFury nice post
20:57 NekoGloop ...
20:57 NakedFury I want to overhaul minetest so give me ideas
20:57 NakedFury that sounds like ke eg  a n
20:58 vicscandl NakedFury: no kidding; um, read the forum you *just* posted on... duh
20:58 servvs joined #minetest
20:59 NickNameGoesHere who posted that thexyz?
20:59 NakedFury Kacey
20:59 NickNameGoesHere -_-
20:59 Jeija left #minetest
20:59 NickNameGoesHere Should we troll them?
20:59 jin_xi allmyfucks.jpg
21:00 NickNameGoesHere Who wants to troll Kacey?
21:00 thexyz jin_xi: any updates on "painting" mod?
21:01 NakedFury now that is a great outside the box thinking idea mod
21:01 NakedFury has celeron seen it or commented about it?
21:02 NickNameGoesHere Not yet
21:02 NickNameGoesHere oh, the mod
21:02 NickNameGoesHere my bad
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21:03 jin_xi thexyz: no...
21:03 thexyz =(
21:04 jin_xi i tried to work on it again only to get frustrated
21:04 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
21:04 thexyz why?
21:04 jin_xi sometimes seemingly easy stuff turns out to be impossible...
21:04 thexyz what stuff?
21:05 jin_xi tried making mod work with resolution only dependent on painting, not global setting
21:05 jin_xi so i make canvas_32 and canvas_16
21:05 jin_xi so much data juggling from the node (easel) to the entity...
21:07 jin_xi also i tend to code before i think
21:07 jin_xi nasty habit
21:08 thexyz the stranges thing for me is that you use 3-space identation
21:08 jin_xi its emacs. i dont care
21:08 jin_xi but 3 seems odd
21:10 thexyz isn't it configurable?
21:10 jin_xi probably
21:13 jin_xi ok, using 2 spaces in the future. thanks for the hint
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21:23 vicscandl http://youtu.be/TQU2IyF2lKI
21:23 saschaheylik_ wow.
21:25 cy1 yeah, not watching that vicscandl
21:25 saschaheylik_ this is #minetest
21:25 saschaheylik_ can u be more off topic?
21:26 NekoGloop yes
21:26 cy1 brb, writing a boulder tooth mod
21:26 NekoGloop dsnjiaosdjkldjksaldfjskalvjfieoabuivaebjpvxczn,bndafbdaeuiobajvcozhguifodhailgdfkfdsa
21:26 NekoGloop more off-topic ^
21:28 vicscandl saschaheylik_: its on topic, its how i feel about working on the c++ code...
21:28 vicscandl so there...
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21:40 * VanessaE wanders in
21:40 VanessaE hi
21:40 saschaheylik_ yo
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21:57 NakedFury star trek time
21:59 * NekoGloop kicks VanessaE
21:59 summonermw2 joined #minetest
21:59 VanessaE ow.
21:59 NekoGloop stop wandering :D
21:59 * VanessaE falls over, dead
21:59 * NekoGloop eats the carcass
22:00 * VanessaE has the bones mod internally, you can't pick at anything for 2 hours :)
22:01 * NekoGloop gets a hacked client (not really)
22:02 * NekoGloop picks up the bones ;)
22:03 NekoGloop Well that F10 was surprisingly unproductive. :D
22:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: Idea for a mod: Jungle tree spawning again
22:04 NekoGloop you have more experience with that kinda thing than I'll ever have.
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22:14 VanessaE I'll think about it
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22:22 leo_rockway hola
22:22 leo_rockway oops
22:22 leo_rockway hi*
22:22 leo_rockway why was the jungle biome removed?
22:22 VanessaE it was "boring"
22:22 VanessaE (as if a desert is any less so)
22:22 leo_rockway yes, that was going to be my reply
22:32 leo_rockway oh, ads changed in YT, actually
22:33 leo_rockway now you get to pick watching an ad before the video or during the video, like a commercial break.
22:33 leo_rockway o.0
22:33 VanessaE AdblockPlus FTW :-)
22:33 jin_xi joined #minetest
22:34 leo_rockway yeah, I know. This is my work's computer so I don't install stuff on it... usually.
22:34 leo_rockway it's windows crap
22:34 leo_rockway I just installed adblock anyway
22:34 VanessaE AdblockPlus is a firefox add-on
22:34 VanessaE if you can keep bookmarks and other browser datga, you can install add-ons I'm sure :-)
22:35 VanessaE data*
22:35 leo_rockway I'm not even supposed to install Firefox, hehe.
22:35 VanessaE but now you know that :D
22:35 leo_rockway I use adblock at home.
22:47 RealBadAngel adblock really helps
22:48 NekoGloop adblock eats your mind
22:48 RealBadAngel i install it on any computer i am, even not mind ;)
22:48 RealBadAngel *not mine
22:50 RealBadAngel brr
22:55 jin_xi hmm
22:57 * jin_xi still burns the midnight lamp
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23:09 NekoGloop oh god no not... O hi there
23:10 Keegan_ hi
23:10 Keegan_ m gonna complie 0.4.2 r1 after i eat dinner
23:12 Keegan_ so someone is gonna help me
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23:20 sdzen yes his mother will
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23:39 Keegann who knows how to complie wndows 0.4.2
23:40 NekoGloop uhm...
23:40 NekoGloop there's a run in place version
23:40 NekoGloop on the blog :P
23:40 Keegann whats the lnk?
23:41 NekoGloop it's the blog :P
23:41 NekoGloop http://c55.me/blog/
23:41 Keegann ok mr. helpful
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23:44 bulletrulz hey guys i have a qeastion
23:44 Keegann is it already complied?
23:44 bulletrulz can someone upload 3dfurniture to a http website foe me?
23:44 NekoGloop Uhm... duh?
23:45 NekoGloop It's how I got it, and it's a -run in place- version >.>
23:45 frogcrush @keegan yes
23:46 frogcrush sorry, 2 n's
23:46 bulletrulz please i really want that mod
23:47 frogcrush what mod?
23:47 bulletrulz 3dfurticture
23:47 frogcrush If you are looking for 3D funiture, the link is on the forum
23:47 frogcrush its
23:47 frogcrush https://github.com/tony-ka/tonyka-minetest-mods/zipball/master
23:48 frogcrush Just though that in /mods/minetest
23:48 frogcrush the 3dfuniture folder, not the guide folder
23:48 bulletrulz frogcrush i cannot go on https sites
23:48 frogcrush k
23:49 frogcrush jas
23:50 frogcrush http://tylorstech.com/3d_funiture_1_0.zip
23:50 bulletrulz ty
23:50 frogcrush np
23:53 frogcrush If you don't mind me asking, what is stopping you from accessing HTTPS sites?

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