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| 10:46 |
Jordach |
ello |
| 11:11 |
VanessaE |
morninf all |
| 11:11 |
VanessaE |
mirning* |
| 11:20 |
Jordach |
whos using the forums? i know VanessaE is |
| 11:20 |
Jordach |
(well was) |
| 11:22 |
VanessaE |
I was, but I didn't see anyone else |
| 11:23 |
Jordach |
im i the only one who gets the invisible user bug? |
| 11:23 |
Jordach |
s/im/am |
| 11:26 |
* Jordach |
converts moreblocks with mc textures |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
invisible user |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 11:51 |
Jordach |
sometimes i wont appear on the user list in the main index |
| 11:53 |
VanessaE |
odd |
| 11:59 |
Jordach |
VanessaE; im planning on making a mega city build server |
| 11:59 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 11:59 |
Jordach |
it even has worldedit |
| 12:00 |
Jordach |
however, i made a custom node - glowstone |
| 12:00 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 12:00 |
Jordach |
its there for street side lamps |
| 12:00 |
VanessaE |
there are lots of glowing blocks out there in different mods |
| 12:00 |
Jordach |
and we think mauvebic was right |
| 12:00 |
Jordach |
"no fun" |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
of course its fun |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
the problem is when people keep re-inventing the wheel instead of making new stuff |
| 12:01 |
Jordach |
glowstone - made from mese |
| 12:01 |
Jordach |
and stone |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
...and a torch I hope :-) |
| 12:02 |
Jordach |
yep |
| 12:03 |
Jordach |
i only use 0.4.2rc-1's creative mode though |
| 12:03 |
Jordach |
make use of minetest.zapto.org : 30000 |
| 12:03 |
* Jordach |
engages whitelist |
| 12:05 |
* Jordach |
downloads 3d forniture |
| 12:05 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
and home decor :) |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE |
I still haven't added suport for 3dforniture to my HDX pack |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE |
cool :-) |
| 12:06 |
* Jordach |
tried before making a city |
| 12:06 |
Jordach |
with own hosted server |
| 12:08 |
Jordach |
btw; i nerfed fire |
| 12:08 |
Jordach |
it cant burn, only decorate |
| 12:09 |
Jordach |
(you dont wanna make a house out of wool then have it burn, do you?) |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE |
good |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE |
fire was a bad idea :-/ |
| 12:10 |
Jordach |
it now just sits there like a fire in a fireplace |
| 12:10 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 12:10 |
Jordach |
AW MNA |
| 12:10 |
Jordach |
man* |
| 12:10 |
Jordach |
thunder |
| 12:10 |
Jordach |
:( |
| 12:11 |
VanessaE |
I even told c55 that if anything it should burn slowly and have to burn for a while near a given node befor ethat too catches fire |
| 12:11 |
VanessaE |
(the time to burn depending on the material) |
| 12:11 |
VanessaE |
bah, surge protector |
| 12:12 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
why do the houseflies in my house always sit on mky screen......its annoying |
| 12:14 |
VanessaE |
better that than what they do here |
| 12:14 |
VanessaE |
they fly around in circles around the damn room |
| 12:14 |
VanessaE |
evading my flyswatter |
| 12:14 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
use an electro one >:) |
| 12:21 |
* Jordach |
goes to pixel art server for seed |
| 12:22 |
VanessaE |
back |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
better |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
my servers up at minetest.zapto.org 30000 |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE |
an electric flyswatter? meh. I have to work on my aim anyway :-) |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE |
I swat the bastards right out of the air when I'm aiming right |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
electro ones are also fun with spiders |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
:) |
| 12:24 |
Jordach |
hold on |
| 12:24 |
Jordach |
some odd bug happenec |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE |
so swat it |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
im talking about my hotbar |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
3dforniture and homedecor nodes (nodeboxes) have gone odd |
| 12:26 |
VanessaE |
weird |
| 12:27 |
Jordach |
here http://i.imgur.com/RfY7I.png |
| 12:27 |
VanessaE |
(homedecor only uses nodeboxes for the brass lamppost and small speaker, btw) |
| 12:27 |
Jordach |
hmm |
| 12:27 |
VanessaE |
that looks like a texture atlas bug? |
| 12:27 |
* Jordach |
trys again |
| 12:28 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/XkF3E |
| 12:28 |
VanessaE |
better. |
| 12:29 |
Jordach |
its up...again |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
Y U NO USE my HDX pack!? :-) |
| 12:31 |
Jordach |
lag |
| 12:31 |
Jordach |
memory |
| 12:32 |
VanessaE |
even for the 64px one? :( |
| 12:32 |
VanessaE |
(it's only like 10MB or so) |
| 12:33 |
Jordach |
no. |
| 12:35 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 12:35 |
VanessaE |
you seen the mipmap thread and the results thereof by the way? |
| 12:36 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1695583769.png |
| 12:36 |
VanessaE |
(view it at 100% size) |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
no more moire patterns :-) |
| 12:37 |
VanessaE |
(mostly) |
| 12:37 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 12:38 |
* Jordach |
looks at trees...spits drink |
| 12:38 |
VanessaE |
yes, they're round in 3dforniture |
| 12:38 |
Jordach |
i meant the leaves |
| 12:38 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 12:38 |
Jordach |
bleh |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
no tiling |
| 12:39 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know, leaves still need work |
| 12:39 |
VanessaE |
I need to get a better photo of them |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
btw make the flowers smaller |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
like real flowers |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
hrm, I suppose I could do that |
| 12:42 |
VanessaE |
I actually thought about putting two flowers in each texture (to give four in the world due to theplantlike raw type) |
| 12:43 |
VanessaE |
half the size, 4x as many apparent ones |
| 12:44 |
Jordach |
weird |
| 12:44 |
Jordach |
why does creative inventory (0.4.2) have a stack of 49, not 99 |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
dunno, I thought that a bit weird too. |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
plus |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
it eats items in your inventory/hotbar |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
(if full) |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
probably the same bug that affects chests and furnaces |
| 12:46 |
Jordach |
-- Insert half full so that a taken stack can be put back |
| 12:46 |
Jordach |
FUCK |
| 12:46 |
Jordach |
if i wanted rid of them id use a chest |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
I just drop unwanted items into a hole in the ground and bury them when I'm done |
| 12:47 |
Jordach |
or just /clearobjects |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
let the game's too-many-entities-in-one-spot code kill them off later |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
actually |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
you can drop them back if its 99 |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
drag em over a tol |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
tool* |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
sigh |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
so many bugs in the game these days :( |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
c55 needs to do some serious refactoring |
| 12:49 |
Jordach |
lkjoel was right |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
how so> |
| 12:50 |
Jordach |
(mijyn) |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know who he is :) |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
right how |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 12:50 |
Jordach |
he said something |
| 12:51 |
* VanessaE |
curses her fingers for not hitting the right keys |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
something? |
| 12:53 |
Jordach |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2454 |
| 12:55 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 12:56 |
VanessaE |
c55 has a had attitude :-/ |
| 12:56 |
VanessaE |
bad* |
| 12:56 |
VanessaE |
and he knows it too! |
| 12:56 |
VanessaE |
I've talked with him at length about it...somehow he can't see that he has to want to change - but he just doesn't care |
| 12:56 |
VanessaE |
he shows all the signs of clinical depression worse than what I have |
| 12:57 |
VanessaE |
at least I have good moods that only get spoiled by real assholes, he can't even seem to muster that much. :-/ |
| 12:57 |
VanessaE |
I love the game, and modding is a good diversion, but this crap has to stop |
| 12:58 |
VanessaE |
I mean, look at the mipmap thing jin_xi (workflow) figured out. |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
i know |
| 12:58 |
VanessaE |
incredibly simple 2 or 3 line patch and I even provided AMD64 Ubuntu builds of it. |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
hes following his own rules like a foss zealot |
| 12:58 |
VanessaE |
yet he still can't be bothered to look into incorporating those changes into something user-friendly. |
| 12:59 |
Jordach |
VanessaE; if you want building, play MC |
| 12:59 |
Jordach |
performance is good, 200fps for me |
| 13:00 |
VanessaE |
and now he's in one of his "weird way to be disinterested" moods |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
says he has virtually zero interested, that he doesn't play much anymore, doesn't care, etc |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
and yet now he's back in #minetest and on -delta again too |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
and posting in the forums |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
and claims his joining those channels again has no particular meaning |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
BULLSHIT. |
| 13:04 |
Jordach |
bipolar? |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
no, I'd just say straight depressive. |
| 13:05 |
Jordach |
i think we need to teleport to him |
| 13:06 |
VanessaE |
to where> |
| 13:06 |
Jordach |
i know his address |
| 13:06 |
Jordach |
his own cv is in plain english |
| 13:06 |
VanessaE |
what we need to do is find a way to get him out of the development cycle entirely but that means someone else who isn't prone to burnouts and who has some idea of what the players actually want has to take over |
| 13:07 |
Jordach |
any ideas? |
| 13:07 |
Jordach |
i dont generally burn out |
| 13:07 |
Jordach |
see my attempts at metals |
| 13:07 |
VanessaE |
no, but you get upset a lot |
| 13:07 |
Jordach |
or simplistic modding (need to do) |
| 13:07 |
Jordach |
i just do it for a laugh |
| 13:07 |
Jordach |
(i piss around often) |
| 13:07 |
VanessaE |
vicscand is doing some serious work on it though |
| 13:08 |
Jordach |
i knpw |
| 13:08 |
Jordach |
know |
| 13:08 |
VanessaE |
between him and darkrose, we have the potential to fix this damn game |
| 13:08 |
Jordach |
celeron should just nod head to ideas |
| 13:08 |
Jordach |
not code himself |
| 13:09 |
VanessaE |
I've seen videos of what irrlicht can do - amazing stuff. and yet c55 insists on wallowing in the backwash of 1995-era graphcis >:-( |
| 13:09 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - 2007 gpu here |
| 13:09 |
VanessaE |
2010 GPU here, and I'm lucky to get 50fps with default textures. |
| 13:09 |
Jordach |
and im pulling 170-200 fps in other games |
| 13:09 |
VanessaE |
(actually I get about the same with my HDX pack) |
| 13:10 |
Jordach |
(red eclipse, minecraft, openarena, hedgewars, team fortress 2, ace of spades) |
| 13:11 |
VanessaE |
*nod* I know |
| 13:11 |
Jordach |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2908 c55 blasting |
| 13:11 |
VanessaE |
openarena, torcs, tuxracer all max out my card with CPU to spare |
| 13:12 |
Jordach |
loltuxracer |
| 13:12 |
VanessaE |
*extreme* tuxracer :-) |
| 13:12 |
VanessaE |
point is, these are not low-poly games at all |
| 13:12 |
VanessaE |
and they're fast. |
| 13:12 |
Jordach |
even mc makes a damn difference |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
512px pack in less than 257mb of ram |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
and no overhead |
| 13:13 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 13:13 |
VanessaE |
fucking wasteful |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
you should play mc |
| 13:13 |
VanessaE |
and vic when last I saw him, thought he found a possible cause or two of the memory leaks |
| 13:14 |
VanessaE |
he's already reduced the CPU usage by 5 or 10% now |
| 13:14 |
Jordach |
once i get my cpp course out of the way and done - ill see about some fixes too |
| 13:14 |
Jordach |
6 days until i start it |
| 13:14 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 13:14 |
Jordach |
its before a university degree, but above a high school award |
| 13:15 |
VanessaE |
undergraduate stuff? |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
a-level |
| 13:15 |
VanessaE |
("community college") |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
you forgot your coma |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
comma |
| 13:16 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 13:16 |
Jordach |
should be ('community_college'), |
| 13:17 |
Jordach |
our point is; we need 0.4.2rc-2 or something |
| 13:17 |
Jordach |
we cant be hanging forever |
| 13:24 |
Jordach |
http://ace-spades.com/ that game gets great updates |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
VanessaE; one day c55 will wake up and realise that his own game needs attention. |
| 13:32 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 13:36 |
Jordach |
mijyn is working on this https://github.com/MiJyn/relinux |
| 13:36 |
Jordach |
its a way to make a gui for linux i think |
| 13:36 |
Jordach |
or a full OS |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE |
interesting |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
yay. |
| 14:03 |
Jordach |
my 30'' led hdtv arrived! |
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* Jordach |
is making some 8-bit goodies |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
i always output my stuff at 320kbps |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
30" HDTV? meh. I use a 100.something inch HD projection system :-) |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
(it was cheaper than buying a TV) |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
explains homedecor then |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
btw |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
my building world is public - i may only give privs to trusted people |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
yep, that explains the projection screen ;-) |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
like you. |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
there |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
made a forum post |
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NekoGloop |
LandMine, i thought you didnt care. shut up and act your age. |
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| 20:48 |
Jordach |
i found landmines living area |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
189.144.172.43 is from Mexico(MX) in region North America |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: most likely a proxt |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
proxy |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
proxies usually cant handle a web irc |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
fact. |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter anyway, a little judicious use of class B or even whole class-A blocking will get rid of him in short order |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
he doesn't understand networking at all evidently |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
every piece of hardware attached to the internet has an IP address, even if you go through a proxy, TOR, etc. Someone with a real IP has to pass that data on sooner or later. |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
and that's the IP we see here |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
i also suspect keegan is running linux, or at least some distro |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
because i know for a fact windows boxes cant be ssh closed |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
(minetestserver) |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
he runs Ubuntu |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
currently, Lucid. He will be upgrading to Precise soon. |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
VMC |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
*facepalm* |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
it's not an ssh issue |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
it's that old furnace-is-full bug. |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
I looked at his server logs |
| 21:00 |
VanessaE |
he's just out of date is all |
| 21:00 |
VanessaE |
so we'll get him up to date so at least that much works and landmine can't shut his server down anymore. |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
btw http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=trace&host=189.144.172.43 |
| 21:00 |
VanessaE |
I know he's banned from your servers btw. Just trying to do something to turn that messa rounf |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
use that to whittle him down |
| 21:00 |
VanessaE |
mess around* |
| 21:01 |
Jordach |
relevant to keegan http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335744 |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
i even have a hacking defense |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
2x routers |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
1st is the isp box |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
2nd is the one my tower is attached to |
| 21:07 |
Jordach |
fixed the full furnace bug |
| 21:07 |
Jordach |
(my pc locally and server wise) |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
c55 fixed that in git days ago :) |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
i know |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
i just did rubenwardy's method |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, can you test my network? |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
minetest.zapto.org :30000 |
| 21:09 |
Jordach |
0.4.2-rc1 btw |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
checking\ |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
no good. |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
damn |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
1st box needs to port fwd to 2nd |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
5 secs |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
disconnecting 2nd router |
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| 21:13 |
LandMine |
wtf you want jordach? |
| 21:14 |
JOrdach2_ |
right, you are one of the most creative people i know |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
better |
| 21:16 |
LandMine |
ok? and |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
you should do more creative stuff |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
i like em |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
you should map more often |
| 21:18 |
LandMine |
uhhhhh you know most of every thing i post is taken from stuff i see on minecraft right? |
| 21:18 |
LandMine |
so im not very creative |
| 21:18 |
LandMine |
i just copy very well |
| 21:20 |
Jordach |
but you at least come up with something thats decent |
| 21:20 |
Jordach |
and you pixel art well |
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| 21:23 |
LandMine |
ok |
| 21:23 |
LandMine |
so thats what you wanted to say? |
| 21:23 |
LandMine |
i thought you were gonna thank me for taking care of that keegan kid |
| 21:23 |
JOrdach2 |
thank you for coming back |
| 21:24 |
JOrdach2 |
VanessaE, try again |
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| 21:24 |
JOrdach2 |
try minetest.zapto.org : 30000 |
| 21:26 |
LandMine |
me? on 4.1 or 4.1 rc2? |
| 21:26 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 21:26 |
Jordach |
0.4.2 |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
if not; try 81.155.110.55 |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
working on something |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
kay |
| 21:27 |
LandMine |
doesnt connect |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
damn |
| 21:28 |
Jordach |
try again |
| 21:28 |
Jordach |
just dmz'd my tower |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: no good. |
| 21:28 |
Jordach |
it worked before |
| 21:29 |
Jordach |
ill look into this tomorrow |
| 21:29 |
Jordach |
LandMine, ill see about letting you build with me |
| 21:30 |
LandMine |
you say it like if i wanted to do it to begin with |
| 21:31 |
Jordach |
here was my original attempt at a server http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1033 |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
my connection was bad |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
LandMine; if you manage two weeks without any evil; a free interact waits for you/ |
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LandMine |
i dont want interact |
| 21:33 |
LandMine |
and i dont think i can last 2 weeks without doing somehting evil |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
you will |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
and i need sleep |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
night y'all |
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sdzen |
huh i didnt know this channel existed |
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PilzAdam |
please dont tell it evryone it should stay as a modding channel |
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NekoGloop |
oh? |
| 22:07 |
NekoGloop |
someone here is active :) |
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sdzen |
okay |
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sdzen |
i just saw it on the forums |
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Keegann |
hello |
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Keegann |
hello |
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Keegann |
if you see LandMine i need his IP address form minetest and IRC |
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NekoGloop |
you know that wont work, right? |
| 23:39 |
Keegann |
OldCoder wants it... so i dont know why he wants it |
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NekoGloop |
LandMine: 189.144.104.72 LandMine_: 189.144.131.105 |
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NekoGloop |
same person, two IPs. |
