Time Nick Message 10:46 Jordach ello 11:11 VanessaE morninf all 11:11 VanessaE mirning* 11:20 Jordach whos using the forums? i know VanessaE is 11:20 Jordach (well was) 11:22 VanessaE I was, but I didn't see anyone else 11:23 Jordach im i the only one who gets the invisible user bug? 11:23 Jordach s/im/am 11:26 * Jordach converts moreblocks with mc textures 11:33 VanessaE invisible user 11:33 VanessaE ? 11:51 Jordach sometimes i wont appear on the user list in the main index 11:53 VanessaE odd 11:59 Jordach VanessaE; im planning on making a mega city build server 11:59 VanessaE cool 11:59 Jordach it even has worldedit 12:00 Jordach however, i made a custom node - glowstone 12:00 VanessaE meh 12:00 Jordach its there for street side lamps 12:00 VanessaE there are lots of glowing blocks out there in different mods 12:00 Jordach and we think mauvebic was right 12:00 Jordach "no fun" 12:01 VanessaE of course its fun 12:01 VanessaE the problem is when people keep re-inventing the wheel instead of making new stuff 12:01 Jordach glowstone - made from mese 12:01 Jordach and stone 12:01 VanessaE ...and a torch I hope :-) 12:02 Jordach yep 12:03 Jordach i only use 0.4.2rc-1's creative mode though 12:03 Jordach make use of minetest.zapto.org : 30000 12:03 * Jordach engages whitelist 12:05 * Jordach downloads 3d forniture 12:05 VanessaE :( 12:05 Jordach and home decor :) 12:06 VanessaE I still haven't added suport for 3dforniture to my HDX pack 12:06 VanessaE cool :-) 12:06 * Jordach tried before making a city 12:06 Jordach with own hosted server 12:08 Jordach btw; i nerfed fire 12:08 Jordach it cant burn, only decorate 12:09 Jordach (you dont wanna make a house out of wool then have it burn, do you?) 12:09 VanessaE good 12:09 VanessaE fire was a bad idea :-/ 12:10 Jordach it now just sits there like a fire in a fireplace 12:10 VanessaE nice 12:10 Jordach AW MNA 12:10 Jordach man* 12:10 Jordach thunder 12:10 Jordach :( 12:11 VanessaE I even told c55 that if anything it should burn slowly and have to burn for a while near a given node befor ethat too catches fire 12:11 VanessaE (the time to burn depending on the material) 12:11 VanessaE bah, surge protector 12:12 VanessaE :) 12:14 Jordach why do the houseflies in my house always sit on mky screen......its annoying 12:14 VanessaE better that than what they do here 12:14 VanessaE they fly around in circles around the damn room 12:14 VanessaE evading my flyswatter 12:14 VanessaE brb 12:14 Jordach use an electro one >:) 12:21 * Jordach goes to pixel art server for seed 12:22 VanessaE back 12:23 Jordach better 12:23 Jordach my servers up at minetest.zapto.org 30000 12:23 VanessaE an electric flyswatter? meh. I have to work on my aim anyway :-) 12:23 VanessaE I swat the bastards right out of the air when I'm aiming right 12:23 Jordach electro ones are also fun with spiders 12:23 Jordach :) 12:24 Jordach hold on 12:24 Jordach some odd bug happenec 12:25 VanessaE so swat it 12:25 VanessaE ;) 12:26 Jordach im talking about my hotbar 12:26 Jordach 3dforniture and homedecor nodes (nodeboxes) have gone odd 12:26 VanessaE weird 12:27 Jordach here http://i.imgur.com/RfY7I.png 12:27 VanessaE (homedecor only uses nodeboxes for the brass lamppost and small speaker, btw) 12:27 Jordach hmm 12:27 VanessaE that looks like a texture atlas bug? 12:27 * Jordach trys again 12:28 Jordach http://imgur.com/XkF3E 12:28 VanessaE better. 12:29 Jordach its up...again 12:30 VanessaE Y U NO USE my HDX pack!? :-) 12:31 Jordach lag 12:31 Jordach memory 12:32 VanessaE even for the 64px one? :( 12:32 VanessaE (it's only like 10MB or so) 12:33 Jordach no. 12:35 VanessaE :( 12:35 VanessaE you seen the mipmap thread and the results thereof by the way? 12:36 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1695583769.png 12:36 VanessaE (view it at 100% size) 12:37 VanessaE no more moire patterns :-) 12:37 VanessaE (mostly) 12:37 Jordach yes 12:38 * Jordach looks at trees...spits drink 12:38 VanessaE yes, they're round in 3dforniture 12:38 Jordach i meant the leaves 12:38 VanessaE oh 12:38 Jordach bleh 12:39 Jordach no tiling 12:39 VanessaE yeah I know, leaves still need work 12:39 VanessaE I need to get a better photo of them 12:39 Jordach btw make the flowers smaller 12:39 Jordach like real flowers 12:40 VanessaE hrm, I suppose I could do that 12:42 VanessaE I actually thought about putting two flowers in each texture (to give four in the world due to theplantlike raw type) 12:43 VanessaE half the size, 4x as many apparent ones 12:44 Jordach weird 12:44 Jordach why does creative inventory (0.4.2) have a stack of 49, not 99 12:45 VanessaE dunno, I thought that a bit weird too. 12:45 VanessaE plus 12:45 VanessaE it eats items in your inventory/hotbar 12:45 VanessaE (if full) 12:46 VanessaE probably the same bug that affects chests and furnaces 12:46 Jordach -- Insert half full so that a taken stack can be put back 12:46 Jordach FUCK 12:46 Jordach if i wanted rid of them id use a chest 12:46 VanessaE I just drop unwanted items into a hole in the ground and bury them when I'm done 12:47 Jordach or just /clearobjects 12:47 VanessaE let the game's too-many-entities-in-one-spot code kill them off later 12:48 Jordach actually 12:48 Jordach you can drop them back if its 99 12:48 Jordach drag em over a tol 12:48 Jordach tool* 12:48 VanessaE sigh 12:49 VanessaE so many bugs in the game these days :( 12:49 VanessaE c55 needs to do some serious refactoring 12:49 Jordach lkjoel was right 12:50 VanessaE ? 12:50 VanessaE how so> 12:50 Jordach (mijyn) 12:50 VanessaE yeah I know who he is :) 12:50 VanessaE right how 12:50 VanessaE ? 12:50 Jordach he said something 12:51 * VanessaE curses her fingers for not hitting the right keys 12:52 VanessaE something? 12:53 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2454 12:55 VanessaE meh 12:56 VanessaE c55 has a had attitude :-/ 12:56 VanessaE bad* 12:56 VanessaE and he knows it too! 12:56 VanessaE I've talked with him at length about it...somehow he can't see that he has to want to change - but he just doesn't care 12:56 VanessaE he shows all the signs of clinical depression worse than what I have 12:57 VanessaE at least I have good moods that only get spoiled by real assholes, he can't even seem to muster that much. :-/ 12:57 VanessaE I love the game, and modding is a good diversion, but this crap has to stop 12:58 VanessaE I mean, look at the mipmap thing jin_xi (workflow) figured out. 12:58 Jordach i know 12:58 VanessaE incredibly simple 2 or 3 line patch and I even provided AMD64 Ubuntu builds of it. 12:58 Jordach hes following his own rules like a foss zealot 12:58 VanessaE yet he still can't be bothered to look into incorporating those changes into something user-friendly. 12:59 Jordach VanessaE; if you want building, play MC 12:59 Jordach performance is good, 200fps for me 13:00 VanessaE and now he's in one of his "weird way to be disinterested" moods 13:01 VanessaE says he has virtually zero interested, that he doesn't play much anymore, doesn't care, etc 13:01 VanessaE and yet now he's back in #minetest and on -delta again too 13:01 VanessaE and posting in the forums 13:01 VanessaE and claims his joining those channels again has no particular meaning 13:01 VanessaE BULLSHIT. 13:04 Jordach bipolar? 13:05 VanessaE no, I'd just say straight depressive. 13:05 Jordach i think we need to teleport to him 13:06 VanessaE to where> 13:06 Jordach i know his address 13:06 Jordach his own cv is in plain english 13:06 VanessaE what we need to do is find a way to get him out of the development cycle entirely but that means someone else who isn't prone to burnouts and who has some idea of what the players actually want has to take over 13:07 Jordach any ideas? 13:07 Jordach i dont generally burn out 13:07 Jordach see my attempts at metals 13:07 VanessaE no, but you get upset a lot 13:07 Jordach or simplistic modding (need to do) 13:07 Jordach i just do it for a laugh 13:07 Jordach (i piss around often) 13:07 VanessaE vicscand is doing some serious work on it though 13:08 Jordach i knpw 13:08 Jordach know 13:08 VanessaE between him and darkrose, we have the potential to fix this damn game 13:08 Jordach celeron should just nod head to ideas 13:08 Jordach not code himself 13:09 VanessaE I've seen videos of what irrlicht can do - amazing stuff. and yet c55 insists on wallowing in the backwash of 1995-era graphcis >:-( 13:09 Jordach VanessaE - 2007 gpu here 13:09 VanessaE 2010 GPU here, and I'm lucky to get 50fps with default textures. 13:09 Jordach and im pulling 170-200 fps in other games 13:09 VanessaE (actually I get about the same with my HDX pack) 13:10 Jordach (red eclipse, minecraft, openarena, hedgewars, team fortress 2, ace of spades) 13:11 VanessaE *nod* I know 13:11 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2908 c55 blasting 13:11 VanessaE openarena, torcs, tuxracer all max out my card with CPU to spare 13:12 Jordach loltuxracer 13:12 VanessaE *extreme* tuxracer :-) 13:12 VanessaE point is, these are not low-poly games at all 13:12 VanessaE and they're fast. 13:12 Jordach even mc makes a damn difference 13:13 Jordach 512px pack in less than 257mb of ram 13:13 Jordach and no overhead 13:13 VanessaE yup 13:13 VanessaE fucking wasteful 13:13 Jordach you should play mc 13:13 VanessaE and vic when last I saw him, thought he found a possible cause or two of the memory leaks 13:14 VanessaE he's already reduced the CPU usage by 5 or 10% now 13:14 Jordach once i get my cpp course out of the way and done - ill see about some fixes too 13:14 Jordach 6 days until i start it 13:14 VanessaE cool 13:14 Jordach its before a university degree, but above a high school award 13:15 VanessaE undergraduate stuff? 13:15 Jordach a-level 13:15 VanessaE ("community college") 13:15 Jordach you forgot your coma 13:15 Jordach comma 13:16 VanessaE haha 13:16 Jordach should be ('community_college'), 13:17 Jordach our point is; we need 0.4.2rc-2 or something 13:17 Jordach we cant be hanging forever 13:24 Jordach http://ace-spades.com/ that game gets great updates 13:31 Jordach VanessaE; one day c55 will wake up and realise that his own game needs attention. 13:32 VanessaE yeah 13:36 Jordach mijyn is working on this https://github.com/MiJyn/relinux 13:36 Jordach its a way to make a gui for linux i think 13:36 Jordach or a full OS 13:36 VanessaE interesting 14:02 Jordach yay. 14:03 Jordach my 30'' led hdtv arrived! 16:41 * Jordach is making some 8-bit goodies 16:48 Jordach i always output my stuff at 320kbps 19:14 VanessaE 30" HDTV? meh. I use a 100.something inch HD projection system :-) 19:14 VanessaE (it was cheaper than buying a TV) 19:42 Jordach explains homedecor then 19:42 Jordach btw 19:42 VanessaE haha 19:43 Jordach my building world is public - i may only give privs to trusted people 19:43 VanessaE yep, that explains the projection screen ;-) 19:43 Jordach like you. 19:50 Jordach there 19:50 Jordach made a forum post 19:59 NekoGloop LandMine, i thought you didnt care. shut up and act your age. 20:48 Jordach i found landmines living area 20:48 Jordach 189.144.172.43 is from Mexico(MX) in region North America 20:49 VanessaE Jordach: most likely a proxt 20:49 VanessaE proxy 20:50 Jordach proxies usually cant handle a web irc 20:50 Jordach fact. 20:52 VanessaE doesn't matter anyway, a little judicious use of class B or even whole class-A blocking will get rid of him in short order 20:53 VanessaE he doesn't understand networking at all evidently 20:53 VanessaE every piece of hardware attached to the internet has an IP address, even if you go through a proxy, TOR, etc. Someone with a real IP has to pass that data on sooner or later. 20:54 VanessaE and that's the IP we see here 20:57 Jordach i also suspect keegan is running linux, or at least some distro 20:58 Jordach because i know for a fact windows boxes cant be ssh closed 20:59 Jordach (minetestserver) 20:59 VanessaE he runs Ubuntu 20:59 VanessaE currently, Lucid. He will be upgrading to Precise soon. 20:59 Jordach VMC 20:59 Jordach *facepalm* 20:59 VanessaE it's not an ssh issue 20:59 VanessaE it's that old furnace-is-full bug. 20:59 VanessaE I looked at his server logs 21:00 VanessaE he's just out of date is all 21:00 VanessaE so we'll get him up to date so at least that much works and landmine can't shut his server down anymore. 21:00 Jordach btw http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=trace&host=189.144.172.43 21:00 VanessaE I know he's banned from your servers btw. Just trying to do something to turn that messa rounf 21:00 Jordach use that to whittle him down 21:00 VanessaE mess around* 21:01 Jordach relevant to keegan http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335744 21:05 Jordach i even have a hacking defense 21:05 Jordach 2x routers 21:06 Jordach 1st is the isp box 21:06 Jordach 2nd is the one my tower is attached to 21:07 Jordach fixed the full furnace bug 21:07 Jordach (my pc locally and server wise) 21:08 VanessaE c55 fixed that in git days ago :) 21:08 Jordach i know 21:08 Jordach i just did rubenwardy's method 21:08 Jordach VanessaE, can you test my network? 21:08 Jordach minetest.zapto.org :30000 21:09 Jordach 0.4.2-rc1 btw 21:09 VanessaE checking\ 21:10 VanessaE no good. 21:10 Jordach damn 21:10 Jordach 1st box needs to port fwd to 2nd 21:10 VanessaE right 21:10 Jordach 5 secs 21:10 Jordach disconnecting 2nd router 21:13 LandMine wtf you want jordach? 21:14 JOrdach2_ right, you are one of the most creative people i know 21:16 Jordach better 21:16 LandMine ok? and 21:17 Jordach you should do more creative stuff 21:17 Jordach i like em 21:18 Jordach you should map more often 21:18 LandMine uhhhhh you know most of every thing i post is taken from stuff i see on minecraft right? 21:18 LandMine so im not very creative 21:18 LandMine i just copy very well 21:20 Jordach but you at least come up with something thats decent 21:20 Jordach and you pixel art well 21:23 LandMine ok 21:23 LandMine so thats what you wanted to say? 21:23 LandMine i thought you were gonna thank me for taking care of that keegan kid 21:23 JOrdach2 thank you for coming back 21:24 JOrdach2 VanessaE, try again 21:24 JOrdach2 try minetest.zapto.org : 30000 21:26 LandMine me? on 4.1 or 4.1 rc2? 21:26 Jordach yes 21:26 Jordach 0.4.2 21:27 Jordach if not; try 81.155.110.55 21:27 VanessaE brb 21:27 VanessaE working on something 21:27 Jordach kay 21:27 LandMine doesnt connect 21:27 Jordach damn 21:28 Jordach try again 21:28 Jordach just dmz'd my tower 21:28 VanessaE Jordach: no good. 21:28 Jordach it worked before 21:29 Jordach ill look into this tomorrow 21:29 Jordach LandMine, ill see about letting you build with me 21:30 LandMine you say it like if i wanted to do it to begin with 21:31 Jordach here was my original attempt at a server http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1033 21:32 Jordach my connection was bad 21:32 Jordach LandMine; if you manage two weeks without any evil; a free interact waits for you/ 21:33 LandMine i dont want interact 21:33 LandMine and i dont think i can last 2 weeks without doing somehting evil 21:33 Jordach you will 21:33 Jordach and i need sleep 21:33 Jordach night y'all 22:06 sdzen huh i didnt know this channel existed 22:06 PilzAdam please dont tell it evryone it should stay as a modding channel 22:07 NekoGloop oh? 22:07 NekoGloop someone here is active :) 22:10 sdzen okay 22:10 sdzen i just saw it on the forums 23:34 Keegann hello 23:37 Keegann hello 23:37 Keegann if you see LandMine i need his IP address form minetest and IRC 23:38 NekoGloop you know that wont work, right? 23:39 Keegann OldCoder wants it... so i dont know why he wants it 23:39 NekoGloop LandMine: 189.144.104.72 LandMine_: 189.144.131.105 23:39 NekoGloop same person, two IPs.