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| 15:33 |
jordach |
good afternoon |
| 15:33 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 15:33 |
* jordach |
pushed tweaks to minetest-classic :) |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE_ |
jordach: seen the latest change to the photorealistic pack? JPG is directly supported by irrlicht, and is not related to texture compression in a video card. |
| 15:35 |
PilzAdam |
its fun whats going on on #minetest |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE_ |
it works everywhere. |
| 15:35 |
jordach |
:( |
| 15:36 |
jordach |
VanessaE_: im working on a texture pack; designed for the height of wool |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE_ |
so anyone can use it in any mod or texture pack. Mine shrunk from 263MB to 93 without any visible loss in quality. |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE_ |
cool |
| 15:36 |
jordach |
including RAM? |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE_ |
didn't look at the memory usage, just the unzipped size on disk |
| 15:37 |
* jordach |
rolls eyes |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE_ |
doubt it helps memory any though :-) |
| 15:37 |
jordach |
youre right\ |
| 15:37 |
jordach |
btw; you live in a nice place |
| 15:37 |
jordach |
(google maps ftw) |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE_ |
eh? |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE_ |
our apartment doesn't show up in google maps :-) |
| 15:39 |
jordach |
oh ti does |
| 15:39 |
jordach |
it* |
| 15:39 |
* jordach |
point to your site |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE_ |
still no street view of the house though :-) |
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| 15:40 |
jordach |
sup nf |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE_ |
jordach: also, another note: |
| 15:41 |
jordach |
mm |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE_ |
if you name your files all .jpg, even if the mod needs a png, it'll pull the jpg if that's all the game can find. |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE_ |
so you don't even have to change anything about the game/mods' code. |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE_ |
(assuming a jpg will hold the data okay, e.g. no transparency) |
| 15:42 |
jordach |
im smiling |
| 15:42 |
jordach |
because i found this out first |
| 15:42 |
jordach |
thanks tv mod |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE_ |
yup |
| 15:43 |
jordach |
so i started a trend? |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE_ |
which is why I'm saying it now so you know it's not just some quirk regarding texture compression in a modern video card :-) |
| 15:44 |
jordach |
lol |
| 15:44 |
jordach |
actually it only worked if i used my SiS inboard |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE_ |
then you did it wrong :-) |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE_ |
because it's a feature of irrlicht. |
| 15:45 |
jordach |
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/pny-geforce-6200-agp-graphics-card-512mb-10893079-pdt.html |
| 15:45 |
jordach |
thats my card |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE_ |
but anyway, name the files .jpg (don't just put a jpeg inside a .png filename) and it just works. |
| 15:46 |
jordach |
i did |
| 15:46 |
jordach |
and thats why tv mod fails |
| 15:47 |
VanessaE_ |
strange |
| 15:48 |
jordach |
however my card is capable of Call of Duty 5 |
| 15:48 |
jordach |
with 40fps |
| 15:48 |
jordach |
my card is so damn rare, nowhere has one; good thing; it was the last in pc world |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
You never said, by the way |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
what exactly fails? |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
what did it do wrong? |
| 15:49 |
jordach |
nothing |
| 15:50 |
jordach |
its not 512mb, its 768mb of ram |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
[08-23 11:46] <VanessaE_> but anyway, name the files .jpg (don't just put a jpeg inside a .png filename) and it just works. |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
[08-23 11:46] <jordach> i did |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
[08-23 11:46] <jordach> and thats why tv mod fails |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
no, this |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
I'm genuinely curious |
| 15:51 |
jordach |
it says failed to load texture |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE_ |
you still have that old code? |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE_ |
also, glad you came back to IRC. I was kinda missing these chats. |
| 15:51 |
jordach |
why yes |
| 15:51 |
jordach |
its in my github |
| 15:52 |
VanessaE_ |
link? I wanna take a look and see what went wrong |
| 15:52 |
jordach |
im still away from #minetest |
| 15:52 |
jordach |
github.com/jordach |
| 15:52 |
jordach |
its my damn minetest mods repo |
| 15:52 |
VanessaE_ |
got oit |
| 15:52 |
VanessaE_ |
it |
| 15:52 |
VanessaE_ |
you seen the latest pipeworks btw? :-) |
| 15:53 |
jordach |
tes |
| 15:53 |
jordach |
yes |
| 15:53 |
jordach |
i went to win xp again :) 200fps on mc |
| 15:53 |
VanessaE_ |
nice. |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE_ |
these are just real PNGs btw. I wanted the code that didn't work :-) |
| 15:54 |
jordach |
you'd think it'd correlate to mt, no. 20-30fps |
| 15:54 |
jordach |
THE FILES ARE LPGS |
| 15:54 |
jordach |
jpgs as .png |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE_ |
everyone's having performance problems with MT lately, vicscandl and others are looking into it. |
| 15:55 |
VanessaE_ |
vanessa rainbird:~$ file tv_screen_5.png |
| 15:55 |
VanessaE_ |
tv_screen_5.png: PNG image data, 36 x 36, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced |
| 15:55 |
VanessaE_ |
(file would have told me if it were JPG content) |
| 15:55 |
jordach |
7 i know was |
| 15:55 |
* VanessaE_ |
looks |
| 15:55 |
VanessaE_ |
vanessarainbird:~$ file tv_screen_7.png tv_screen_7.png: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 |
| 15:55 |
VanessaE_ |
yup. |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE_ |
did you try renaming it to .jpg - but don't change the mod code? |
| 15:56 |
jordach |
no. |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE_ |
the game will load it as long as no png with the same basename exists. |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE_ |
it ignores the filename extension, or is supposed to anyway |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE_ |
c55 and I had a chat about this to finally clear it up :-) |
| 15:58 |
jordach |
i saw the battle between c55's bot in a comp. |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE_ |
bot? |
| 15:58 |
jordach |
battle robots |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE_ |
oh |
| 15:58 |
jordach |
he lost |
| 16:00 |
* VanessaE_ |
tests it... |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE_ |
(the jpg issue) |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE_ |
interesting. If I tweak the init.lua to look for tv_screen_7.jpg and name the file .jpg, it works. |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE_ |
you've hit a bug in the game apparently. you're supposed to be able to give no file extension at all as well. |
| 16:02 |
jordach |
thats odd |
| 16:03 |
jordach |
i only copy and pasted the tv mod |
| 16:03 |
jordach |
was out of ntime |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE_ |
no prob, but now you know the fix in case you want to play around more with jpg textures. |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE_ |
also you can do tiff, tga, bmp, and a few others. |
| 16:04 |
jordach |
oohh |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE_ |
(oddly, not GIF) |
| 16:04 |
jordach |
but we have node anims tho |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE_ |
yes |
| 16:04 |
jordach |
so gif IS redundant |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE_ |
which have to be vertical-strip format |
| 16:04 |
jordach |
mc uses this to |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE_ |
yeah I know |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE_ |
horrible format. |
| 16:04 |
jordach |
unless you have gimp |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE_ |
animated GIF can be smaller than the equivalent vertical strip |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE_ |
and with 16px textures, that's 256 pixels, so gif loses nothing in number of colors :-) |
| 16:08 |
jordach |
bbl |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE_ |
k |
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| 18:27 |
jordach |
good evening |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE_ |
evening |
| 18:27 |
jordach |
./nick VanessaE VanessaE_ |
| 18:27 |
jordach |
underscores annoy me |
| 18:28 |
jordach |
one sign of xchat laziness |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE_ |
jordach: c55 and I talked; the filename issue is a bug. https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/223 |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 18:29 |
jordach |
so i tripped on a highly obscure bug |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
it'll get fixed eventually |
| 18:29 |
jordach |
WOOT! |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
in the meantime, make sure you save your images with proper filenames and codec that matches the file extension. :-) |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
bbiab |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
ENGLISH ZBGURESHPXRE, DO YOU SPEAK IT? |
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