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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2020-08-27

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15:01 TenPlus1 hi folks
15:01 TenPlus1 o/ Krock
15:01 MTDiscord <t​woelk> o/
15:01 TenPlus1 hi twoelk
15:01 TenPlus1 how's the day ?
15:01 MTDiscord <J​onathon> hello
15:02 TenPlus1 hi Jonathon
15:02 twoelk not as windy as yesterday :)
15:02 TenPlus1 storms are coming
15:02 MTDiscord <J​onathon> it shows usernames and not nicks there?
15:03 TenPlus1 I see: MTDiscord: <Jonathon>
15:03 TenPlus1 then again, I'm using Pidgin to chat on irc
15:03 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ah, my nick is wsor
15:03 TenPlus1 might be a local thing for discord only
15:03 TenPlus1 any devs handy
15:03 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ill ask greenxenith about it
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15:04 TenPlus1 I've never really used Discord before :)
15:04 TenPlus1 o/ wsor
15:04 MTDiscord <J​onathon> test
15:05 MTDiscord <J​onathon> yup
15:05 * twoelk is trying to walk in discord without tumbling
15:06 TenPlus1 in this day and age it's hard to find a good chat program for all platforms that does it all :)
15:06 MTDiscord <J​onathon> very true
15:06 MTDiscord <J​onathon> seems like i have accounts in most major chat platforms
15:07 TenPlus1 Signal is pretty good for mobile and desktop, but needs your phone number :D
15:07 MTDiscord <J​onathon> same with telegram
15:08 TenPlus1 I tried Telegram, bad batteyr performance
15:08 MTDiscord <J​onathon> i have it on my laptop and phone, i haven't noticed anything, then again, i don't use it a ton
15:10 TenPlus1 I do like WhatsApp but it really needs a desktop version
15:10 TenPlus1 that isnt web based :D
15:10 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ah
15:11 TenPlus1 and of course facebook owns it *shudder*
15:11 MTDiscord <J​onathon> i dislike instagram/facebook messenger, but thats the platforms that most people have unfortunately
15:11 MTDiscord <t​woelk> doesn't whatsApp always need an internet connection?
15:13 celeron55 whatsapp is the worst
15:13 TenPlus1 yeah, either data or wifi
15:13 TenPlus1 lol celeron, I agree, but all of my friends are on it and it's just to talk to them :) until I can persuade them to move to Signal App instead
15:13 celeron55 all my friends use whatsapp and i don't
15:13 celeron55 that makes it even worse
15:14 celeron55 but as long as they don't buy it from facebook, i'm not touching it
15:14 * twoelk has managed to stay off whatsApp, but it's hard work
15:15 TenPlus1 in the day and age of unlimited calls and texts I could probably do away with it altogether :)
15:20 rubenwardy I like whatsapp because it's end-to-end encrypted, always
15:21 rubenwardy > doesn't whatsApp always need an internet connection?
15:21 rubenwardy no, it doesn't
15:21 rubenwardy messages are stored locally, on your phone
15:21 rubenwardy the web browser client connects to your phone, viewing the messages
15:21 TenPlus1 hi ruben
15:22 celeron55 i hate the fact that whatsapp stores messages on the phone
15:22 celeron55 a phone isn't my primary device, it's nonsense
15:22 rubenwardy \o/
15:22 TenPlus1 that's why I use Signal, you can set a timeout for messages to delete them after a time
15:22 TenPlus1 same feature set as whatsapp only open source
15:23 rubenwardy whatsapp bought the protocol from signal
15:23 celeron55 of all the proprietary messaging things i like telegram the most
15:23 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> I heavily dislike WhatsApp being as phone-centered
15:24 celeron55 what's the point of being end-to-end encrypted when it's running on android
15:24 TenPlus1 yeah, kinda wish you could have a nick or email instead of telephone number
15:24 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> First point, indeed
15:24 rubenwardy android is probably more secure than most linux distros
15:24 celeron55 and probably even on some chinese device full of government and corporate spyware
15:24 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Second point is that WhatsApp Web is crappy
15:25 TenPlus1 yeah, used the web app and it's aweful
15:25 rubenwardy I like it
15:25 celeron55 (as if android itself wasn't already spyware)
15:25 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Phones are pretty far away from FLOSS ideals, that's true
15:25 TenPlus1 avoid the chinese mobiles :P
15:25 TenPlus1 my next phone will be a Pine phone running linux :)
15:26 * twoelk imagines a phone made of pine wood
15:26 TenPlus1 ehehe
15:26 celeron55 whatsapp web doesn't work on mobile browsers and you can't have the same whatsapp account on two phones
15:26 celeron55 that's also ridiculous
15:26 celeron55 if you have two phones, you need two accounts
15:26 celeron55 WHAT
15:26 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> The Pine Phone is probably not worth it's price, in terms of specs
15:26 rubenwardy it works well for me
15:27 rubenwardy I don't have nor need two phones
15:27 TenPlus1 sub 150 quid but has physical switches for things to disable it and can run native linux or android
15:27 celeron55 >android is probably more secure than most linux distros
15:27 celeron55 i don't need security, i need freedom
15:28 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> I don't really like Android
15:28 celeron55 security is nice when you can have it with freedom
15:28 TenPlus1 running linux is freedom, and my current lubu setup is very secure
15:28 twoelk security and freedom are quite often on the far ends of any scale
15:29 celeron55 what's the point of security if it means you need to be in a gorvernment-corporate prison to have it
15:29 TenPlus1 lol
15:29 rubenwardy there's Android AOSP and other forks with free software
15:29 twoelk although security and ease of use might be even further apart
15:29 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Also: > Like the Pinebook Pro, the PinePhone is assembled and built in China but can be shipped from China to (almost) any country in the world.
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15:30 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Nah I don't like Android in it's entirety, I'd much prefer running something Ubuntu-ish on my device
15:30 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Had high hopes for Ubuntu Touch
15:30 celeron55 android isn't a problem as long as you'
15:30 celeron55 +'re not locked into it
15:30 celeron55 by some stupid software like whatsapp
15:31 TenPlus1 I flashed my Lenovo P2 with LineageOS and it was really good, everything worked, all open and unlocked, but battery life suffered
15:32 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Well, I always have the second option of running WhatsApp in an Android emulator
15:33 TenPlus1 never tried android emu in linux, any good ?
15:33 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> acceptable
15:33 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> depends on your PC performance of course
15:33 TenPlus1 nice, had 3 desktops at one time running Kubuntu, Win10 and MacOS on Qemu :) that was fun
15:33 TenPlus1 1 computer, 3 desktop screens
15:34 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> You'll need a fourth one for Android. That one can be small though.
15:34 TenPlus1 heh, kubuntu has connect for android phhones, can use it as device or mirror screen with a util
15:51 TenPlus1 my little sky island: https://9gag.com/gag/arVZpoK
15:52 MTDiscord <t​woelk> nice but not really selfcontaining
15:52 TenPlus1 :P
15:52 TenPlus1 pretty tho
15:52 twoelk I love to follow unknown paths  - might get me in trouble here
15:53 TenPlus1 it's good to explore
15:53 twoelk thats the best part of getting lost
15:53 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> This world is round yet flat
15:53 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Your people will have a hard time finding out what to believe
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15:54 TenPlus1 hi aerozoic
15:54 aerozoic wazup TenPlus1 !
15:54 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> ?
15:55 twoelk the water cycle seems somewhat small - is that really enough to power the mill?
15:55 TenPlus1 hidden pump and angular motion, only needs to charge my mobile :D ehehe
15:57 twoelk sometimes I still look out for that windmill island gorillaz used
15:57 TenPlus1 yeah, those videos were pretty kewl :)
15:58 twoelk might be just behind that next cloud
15:58 TenPlus1 sky islands are the way to go, so long as amazon delivers :D
16:04 TenPlus1 other_worlds mod is very popular on server though, players finding their own little asteroid to build on :D
16:08 twoelk on xanadu?
16:08 TenPlus1 yeah, placed a few stargates to lead players there (if found) so they can colonize space :D got an armada of ships up there already and stormtroopers
16:10 twoelk hm, haven't spent much time on xanadu lately
16:11 twoelk was somewhat down memory lane on vec some weeks ago
16:11 TenPlus1 that's ok :) zlo has a hourd of viking pandas hell bent on setting fires around map :D
16:13 twoelk that reminds me I had an unfinished castle somewhere on xanadu
16:13 TenPlus1 ooh, probably has squatters now :P
16:14 twoelk actually I have lots of builds all over the map, probably forgot the whereabouts of most
16:14 TenPlus1 if you're lucky spawn area has a teleport pad for one of them :)
16:15 twoelk quite a few I may have never protected - which is ok
16:16 MTDiscord <J​ordach> hmm
16:16 TenPlus1 it's fun to build for the fun of it :) I leave ruins and treasure chests all around map for ppl to find :D
16:24 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> > i don't need security, i need freedom Welcome to America
16:24 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> /s
16:24 Krock hi TenPlus1
16:24 Krock NINJA'D
16:24 TenPlus1 hey krock :)
16:25 TenPlus1 heh, check my 2nd msg in chat :DDDDD
16:25 Krock guess you don't have a trigger set up for AWAY changes
16:25 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> Hi Ten, Krock
16:25 * TenPlus1 paints benrobs face with blue and white facepaint... freeeeeddddoooommmmm!!!!
16:25 Krock not visible in my scrollback.. let's see..
16:25 Krock very cool
16:25 TenPlus1 hows the day guys ?
16:25 Krock greeting an offline person
16:26 TenPlus1 werent you in channel ? i autocompleted your nick
16:26 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> A bit slow today, but alright other than that
16:27 TenPlus1 is a rainy day here, gloomy and slow :P
16:27 Krock TenPlus1: yeah but bouncer...
16:27 TenPlus1 aww, ninja'd indeed then... ehehehe :)
16:28 TenPlus1 you win a choccy orange cookie :)
16:28 Krock well thanks. I already baked some of those recently
16:28 TenPlus1 they're tasty :) especially with coffee
16:36 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> I wish it was rainy here too, all I have is gloom thanks to all the smoke
16:36 TenPlus1 smoke ? where are you lone_wolf ?
16:36 twoelk california?
16:37 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Right above it
16:38 * twoelk wonders how many minetst people might have been evacuated from the fires
16:39 TenPlus1 dry and hot is always bad for fires, hope something can be done about it soon
17:03 TenPlus1 nite all o/
17:42 MTDiscord <J​ordach> Probably less than a handful
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