| Time |
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| 01:29 |
rdococ |
hmm |
| 01:30 |
rdococ |
I think that, if shaders are enabled at least, fog could vary in colo |
| 01:30 |
rdococ |
r |
| 03:46 |
sofar |
does anyone know how to modify the builtin sprint speed? |
| 04:10 |
ANAND |
sofar: fast_move without flying? |
| 04:11 |
sofar |
yes |
| 04:11 |
sofar |
afaics the engine just applies a hardcoded modifier |
| 04:11 |
sofar |
nothing to tell the client that it's modifier is a specific value |
| 04:11 |
sofar |
same for sneak speak |
| 04:11 |
ANAND |
There's https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/36bfc67574aaa54c3e7f814ec7c5336e9dbc1ac4/minetest.conf.example#L1370 |
| 04:12 |
ANAND |
The `movement_speed_fast` setting |
| 04:12 |
ANAND |
AFK |
| 04:12 |
sofar |
huh, maybe I was looking at the wrong code then |
| 04:36 |
sofar |
that works, lol |
| 05:42 |
ANAND |
:D |
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| 07:44 |
ANAND |
Hi Krock :) |
| 07:50 |
Krock |
hi ANAND |
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| 13:13 |
rdococ |
hi |
| 13:20 |
Krock |
hi |
| 13:25 |
ANAND |
hi |
| 13:25 |
jas_ |
!mod |
| 13:25 |
MinetestBot |
jas_: Sailing and Tropical Islands [sailing] by cakenggt - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=22159 |
| 13:33 |
Krock |
!mod |
| 13:34 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: BigPixelZombie [bpz] by azekill_DIABLO - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14495 |
| 14:39 |
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| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
oof. worldedit's //move function needs some TLC. it's slow compared to //set -- a region about 1.1M nodes is taking many minutes to move down by 1m, yet a region of 54M nodes took only some tens of seconds to //set. |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
(it's been chewing on that //move for over 10 mins now) |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
and using a lot of memory, too.. |
| 16:04 |
sfan5 |
it intentionally does the moving in steps |
| 16:04 |
sfan5 |
maybe it shouldn't |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE |
wasn't there some kind of "buffer" that lets big commands run in the background? |
| 16:05 |
sfan5 |
no idea |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
it's grabbed about 2GB of RAM since the command started; does it load the area to move, into a table or something? |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
who actively maintains WE these days anyway? |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
(so that I can yell at someone more appropriate ;) ) |
| 16:17 |
sfan5 |
me |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
consider yourself yelled at then ;) |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
oof. //move uses remove_node() and set_node() and meta-handling |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
no wonder it's so slow |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE |
HybridDog has a fork, where he claims some operations are ridiculously-fast, I think one of which is //move [off] though I tend to avoid him as I don't trust him due to his level of paranoia, this may be one time it's okay to look |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE |
shit |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
missed a \n :P |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: any chance you can do something to make //move faster? it's been going for over an hour... |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
working on it |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
right now, in fact |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
oh! ok. thanks :) |
| 17:17 |
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| 18:45 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy: having a slight issue with ContentDB updating a couple mods. Got a notification "Oops something went wrong" so waited and tried again. WOuld have used the mssg option but did not want to add a third update instance. The two involved are https://content.minetest.net/packages/TumeniNodes/pkarcs/ and https://content.minetest.net/packages/TumeniNodes/angledwalls/ both show a status of "importing" since last night |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
redis broke |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
I hate technology |
| 18:47 |
tumeninodes |
oh nos |
| 18:47 |
sfan5 |
does remove_node delete metadata? |
| 18:47 |
tumeninodes |
tech is a love/hate thing |
| 18:47 |
sfan5 |
i guess not and it doesn't matter anyway |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
it should hmm |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
addNodeAndUpdate(p, MapNode(CONTENT_AIR), modified_blocks, true); |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
> true. removes meta |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
meta is removed or Map::removeNodeMetadata(): Block not found is logged |
| 18:51 |
sfan5 |
i see |
| 19:14 |
sfan5 |
minetest needs an api function to get 1) a monotonic time and 2) one with precision better than seconds |
| 19:20 |
Krock |
minetest.get_us_time()` |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
oh cool |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
i thought that there was one but couldn't remember the name |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
sounds like you're modding again? |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
i'm making WorldEdit suck less |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
til worldedit sucks |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
I wouldn't say it sucks. that's a bit extreme .. |
| 19:42 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy: why doe the link to report issues on CDB link to your Twitter acct? This means that anyone who wishes to report an issue is required to have a Twitter acct? 0_o I only mention it as this may cause some to not bother issuing a report, with no desire to have a Twitter acct. |
| 19:42 |
tumeninodes |
does |
| 19:45 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't it link to rubenwardy.com/contact? |
| 19:45 |
rubenwardy |
oh wait, you're referring to the site-wide error page |
| 19:45 |
rubenwardy |
it's outdated |
| 19:46 |
tumeninodes |
yes, the error page which popped up when I ran into the update issues |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
that appears on all sites on my machine |
| 19:46 |
tumeninodes |
oh |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
I created that page years ago |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
>>> 'logfile /var/log/redis/redis-server.log' // Can't open the log file: Permission denied |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
any ideas? Permissions are correct |
| 19:46 |
tumeninodes |
kick it |
| 19:47 |
Krock |
chmod 777 |
| 19:47 |
tumeninodes |
or that |
| 19:52 |
tumeninodes |
anyone here use hugo? (just asking as I'm thinking of creating a small website) https://gohugo.io/ |
| 19:54 |
Krock |
^ Calinou please use this |
| 19:55 |
Krock |
I don't know what it's capable doing but it surely fits |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
oh great the new copy code fails randomly |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
I used it a bit for prototyping, but my current personal website uses Jekyll actually :P |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
is it possible that two vmanips in very close locations conflict with each other when only one(!) of them is actually written back to the map? |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
Hugo is still pretty cool |
| 19:56 |
Krock |
Calinou: use it for its name |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 19:57 |
tumeninodes |
https://dzone.com/articles/static-site-generators-overview-gatsby-vs-hugo-vs |
| 19:58 |
Calinou |
Gatsby has a different approach, with many advantages but also downsides |
| 19:58 |
Calinou |
>Learning Golang can be difficult. |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
uh, you don't need to know Go to use Hugo |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
(also, it's Go, not Golang :P) |
| 19:59 |
tumeninodes |
no xml support though |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
oh i found the bug |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
parallel vmanips should be possible |
| 19:59 |
tumeninodes |
xml = still relevant |
| 20:00 |
sfan5 |
Krock: they are, the bug was in my code |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
yeah, it's not supported yet, https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo/issues/4470 |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
you could maybe convert XML to another format using a separate tool still |
| 20:02 |
tumeninodes |
tough getting an accurate result doing a vs x 3 and no knowledge if the organization doing the vs may have a bias |
| 20:03 |
tumeninodes |
another matter is apache 2.0 vs MIT |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
what do you want to license? |
| 20:05 |
tumeninodes |
I personaly like apache |
| 20:06 |
tumeninodes |
me personaly on an aspect which would matter? nothing |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
usually, you should pick the license that's used the most often in the community in question |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
Rust software is often licensed under both Apache 2 and MIT |
| 20:08 |
tumeninodes |
anything I put on a website would be under it's own specific license as far as my own content |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
content is better licensed using a Creative Commons license, preferably CC0, CC BY or CC BY-SA :) |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
but you can license the code under MIT or Apache 2 just fine |
| 20:10 |
tumeninodes |
apache might have been an option related to MT project? I am only saying as it can contain patents and (correct me if I'm wrong) maybe Celeron could have applied for a patent for MT engine? |
| 20:12 |
tumeninodes |
just so it existed. Again, I am no legal expert, it is just a quick thought that passed into my thick skull |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
no, that's not what a patent grant is |
| 20:12 |
tumeninodes |
well.... poop |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
https://opensource.com/article/18/2/how-make-sense-apache-2-patent-license |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
(found via a quick search, there's more comprehensive articles out there) |
| 20:13 |
tumeninodes |
I was thinking it might have been a way around the trademark matter of the past |
| 20:15 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: done |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
yay! :) |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
there's a catch though: //move y -1 is as slow as before |
| 20:16 |
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| 20:16 |
VanessaE |
bummer. |
| 20:16 |
tumeninodes |
Calinou thank you for that link... just started reading and bookmarked to finish later tonight. Very good stuff to know |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
instead use //copy y -1 and manually remove the remaining row at the top OR move whatever thing high into the air and then back down where you want it |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
oh I see, so that the source and destination regions don't overlap? |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
/copy is still slow when regions overlap AND you are moving towards +, //move is still slow when regions overlap |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
noted. |
| 20:19 |
VanessaE |
I guess because there's no way to do a VM read or write "in reverse"? |
| 20:19 |
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| 20:19 |
sfan5 |
there is I just didn't bother implementing it |
| 20:21 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
holy crap, that's massively faster. |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
(//stack) |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
~3 mins to do something that before was still going for an hour. |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
nice :) |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
tumeninodes: I've added a status message to ContentDB so people don't get confused at least |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
no sure how to fix this |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
I've `su`'d into the redis user, and can write to the file fine |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
maybe redis doesn't like system links? |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
I have /var/log linked to /home/root-overflow/var/log because OVH/Kimsufi is retarded |
| 20:35 |
tumeninodes |
that will definitely be useful. |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
why not let it log to /dev/null for now? |
| 20:39 |
rubenwardy |
ah, thanks |
| 20:39 |
rubenwardy |
that works |
| 20:40 |
tumeninodes |
\o/ |
| 20:41 |
tumeninodes |
afk |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: bug in //allocate |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
just do //1, //allocate <some small schem>. the //1 position will move. |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
repeat //allocate <file> and it'll keep moving. |
| 22:22 |
sfan5 |
hmm |
| 22:24 |
VanessaE |
and //load moves the coords as well |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
https://i.imgur.com/e3By1Dr.png I put pos1 right about where the crosshairs is in the lower right in the image. //allocate created the selection box shown, //load put the structure where you see it |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
s/is/are/ |
| 22:26 |
sfan5 |
it's not actually documented anywhere that allocate should "anchor" the schematic at pos1 |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
it always has in the past |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
that's its purpose |
| 22:27 |
sfan5 |
the fact that it does is because most schematics have (0,0,0) as lowest position |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
it just was never clearly specified which corner of the structure it will be (SW I think) |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
either way this is a bug, //allocate is not supposed to move pos1, and the schematic loaded outside of the box. that has never happened before. |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
(and I know the schem is good, I //save'd it a few hours ago) |
| 22:29 |
sfan5 |
that is not supposed to happen |
| 22:32 |
sfan5 |
looking at the code I don't see how it's possible that it saves such an "incorrect" schematic |
| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
want a copy? |
| 22:33 |
sfan5 |
sure |
| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
https://daconcepts.com/vanessa/extra/thingy.we |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
doesn't look like any coords in the file are at 0 |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
so //save must have b0rk3d it |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
I was at commit f589c988 when I saved the fiule |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
file* |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
if that helpe |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
if that helps |
| 22:37 |
sfan5 |
hm yeah I can see the issue |
| 22:37 |
sfan5 |
you saved a bunch of air, but since that air isn't saved //allocate detects a smaller area than the schematic was actually saved from |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
yeah, it was just some floating structure, wanted to stash it before building that road (just in case I trashed something) |
| 22:41 |
sfan5 |
more precisely "a bunch of air" means there are entire XY, XZ, YZ slices with nothing in them |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
so maybe //save should add do-nothing "dummy" nodes at the four corners to keep //allocate et al. happy? |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
eight corners* |
| 22:45 |
sfan5 |
quite hacky, but I was thinking about doing that |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
sometimes hacky works :) |
| 22:57 |
sfan5 |
hmm no, if I add an air node there it would overwrite something when the schem is loaded |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
not air |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
a dummy node |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
like ignore |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
or something else that can't actually be placed. |
| 22:58 |
sfan5 |
ignore works but throws a red warning at you on //load |
| 22:59 |
sfan5 |
i'll just add a warning in chat for now |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
"can't be fixed or worked around in a simple way." dummy nodes :) (insert on //save, explicitly ignore them on //load) |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
(of course that would only work with a WE schematic, but then again I have no idea what happens if you try to place a MT schem that contains invalid nodes? |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 23:50 |
* VanessaE |
notes Fixer logging into VE-S... |
| 23:50 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: needed a test join just before going to sleep in a sec |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
just making sure it's you :) |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: me, is that just me or fps is so much better? |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
and smoother |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
*shrug* |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
it IS a less complex spawn than the old place. |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: not just that, i've noticed it in my Just Test capture few minutes ago |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: i've noticed a lot of servers still on 0.4, wtf? |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
no idea about that, aside from sheer inertia |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
and "5.x, oh that's the unstable dev branch" |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
and mobile clients not updating to the 5.x code bas |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
base* |
| 23:54 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: are you runnin latest git server? |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
not *latest* latest, but it's recent 5.1.0-dev |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
last updated a month or so ago, I suppose |
