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sofar |
# /usr/local/bin/minetestserver --version |
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sofar |
/usr/local/bin/minetestserver: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.8' not found (required by /usr/local/bin/minetestserver) |
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sofar |
what the ... |
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* sofar |
ldconfigs |
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sofar |
# /usr/local/bin/minetestserver --version |
| 01:42 |
sofar |
Minetest 5.0.0 (Linux) |
| 01:42 |
sofar |
finally, got a mt-5.0.0 on centos7 build |
| 01:42 |
sofar |
(never again) |
| 01:44 |
Emerald2 |
Now you can nuke centos from orbit? :p |
| 01:47 |
sofar |
if you uninstall minetest-server on centos, it removes the critically needed file in /etc/ |
| 01:47 |
sofar |
this is why we can't have nice things |
| 01:47 |
sofar |
(if only I could install clearlinux on this host, but I can't) |
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GreenDimond |
Ill stick with my Ubuntu |
| 01:48 |
sofar |
not for a server |
| 01:48 |
GreenDimond |
Why not |
| 01:50 |
sofar |
haha |
| 01:50 |
sofar |
you're funny |
| 01:51 |
GreenDimond |
I use Ubuntu for my server |
| 01:51 |
GreenDimond |
fight me |
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sofar |
no need |
| 01:51 |
GreenDimond |
whats wrong with using ubuntu for a server |
| 01:53 |
sofar |
well for one, you're leaving an enormous amount of performance potential on the table |
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rubenwardy |
I doubt it |
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paramat |
Emerald2 "more info about how the noise params in mapgen effect the generated terrain?" there are short descriptions in conf.example https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0b492f82f77eb121d0c9af66ddf5e86f3ebbc876/minetest.conf.example#L2086 . also, for mgv7, somewhere in https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=15272 |
| 03:09 |
Emerald2 |
Thanks paramat. I'll have a look at those. |
| 03:11 |
paramat |
ideally i *should* write detailed docs for all mapgens ... |
| 03:17 |
Emerald2 |
It's pretty complex. Like, if I change this number to be bigger or smaller, what happens? |
| 03:18 |
Emerald2 |
Like your 'to do' list isn't already a mile long. |
| 03:59 |
paramat |
yes, it's important to understand how the noise params affect the behaviour of the resulting noise value, i've covered that in lua_api.txt. the 2nd step is to understand how that noise value affects an aspect of mapgen |
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paramat |
it's very difficult to make the first step easy for someone but i've tried |
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jas_ |
looooooooool |
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jas_ |
you should help him |
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jas_ |
no? |
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IhrFussel |
I already tried to tell him that his mods are most likely broken |
| 12:30 |
IhrFussel |
And then he started with this whole 'giving up on Mt soon cause nobody cares about his server/malicious clients' blah blah |
| 12:32 |
IhrFussel |
Now in his most recent post he says 'devs could find a way to block ad-infested/modified clients but they don't want to cause they probably like it the way it is' |
| 12:33 |
IhrFussel |
And that 'open source' is no excuse ... by definition open source means anyone can see exactly how the code is written and that makes it automatically possible to fake everything the server ever asks from the client |
| 12:33 |
IhrFussel |
But he doesn't understand that |
| 12:35 |
IhrFussel |
Yes the devs could add a 'user agent' like thing into the client...but as soon as the mobile app devs would find out that their missing agent is rejected by servers they would simply add it to their version |
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IhrFussel |
It's useless to even try |
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BuckarooBanzai |
hi all |
| 12:58 |
Krock |
hi BuckarooBanzai |
| 12:59 |
BuckarooBanzai |
Testing pandorabox on v5.0, looks good so far :D |
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Krock |
o/ |
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rubenwardy |
BuckarooBanzai: yay |
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IhrFussel |
hi Krock |
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Krock |
hi IhrFussel |
| 13:11 |
IhrFussel |
Since restart (after applying my solution) the highest time was this: CRAFT TIMER: Steuber336 moved 5 default:steel_ingot to craft grid (82573 µs) |
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IhrFussel |
At least far away from 200+ms |
| 13:16 |
Krock |
and in plain u_i it was up to a second? |
| 13:22 |
Fixer |
CHAPPAAAA |
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IhrFussel |
Without the inv:is_empty("craft") check it went up to 500ms...sometimes even 800 |
| 13:23 |
IhrFussel |
One sec, making a small list to compare before/after |
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IhrFussel |
https://pastebin.com/DD8wP0Pd |
| 13:29 |
IhrFussel |
Keep in mind that ALL 'before' values were crafted with 1 item |
| 13:29 |
IhrFussel |
While most 'after' values executed 5-10 items |
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BuckarooBanzai |
Oh, that does not look good: i have huuge lag spikes in v5.0 with 1 player logged in :( https://test.pandorabox.io/grafana/d/cACE6ppik/overview?refresh=5s&orgId=1 |
| 13:30 |
BuckarooBanzai |
A normal graph in comparison: https://pandorabox.io/grafana/d/cACE6ppik/overview?refresh=5s&orgId=1 |
| 13:31 |
IhrFussel |
BuckarooBanzai, profiler.load = true in conf |
| 13:32 |
BuckarooBanzai |
IhrFussel: already investigating... maybe some db- or hd-issue, it runs on an old server :/ |
| 13:33 |
IhrFussel |
Check top first |
| 13:33 |
IhrFussel |
Check iowait and st values |
| 13:33 |
IhrFussel |
(st will only be relevant if you server is a VPS/shares resources with other customers) |
| 13:34 |
rubenwardy |
interesting how there's such a mixed response to it - some people say 5.0 improves performance a lot, others say the opposite |
| 13:34 |
rubenwardy |
did you migrate to the auth.sql db? |
| 13:34 |
rubenwardy |
what lag is that? Minetest m_lag? |
| 13:34 |
BuckarooBanzai |
rubenwardy: not yet, i have no login-traffic on that server yet... |
| 13:35 |
rubenwardy |
well, that crosses that out :) |
| 13:35 |
rubenwardy |
but yeah, profiler is a good idea |
| 13:35 |
BuckarooBanzai |
rubenwardy: it's a self-rolled value and from /status: https://github.com/thomasrudin-mt/monitoring/blob/master/builtin/lag.lua |
| 13:35 |
rubenwardy |
and also checking that thing which tells you when files are modified, to see if it matches a save |
| 13:36 |
rubenwardy |
I did this on my server and found some issues ^ |
| 13:37 |
BuckarooBanzai |
the "thing" ? |
| 13:38 |
rubenwardy |
inotifywait -me modify,create,delete -r . |
| 13:38 |
rubenwardy |
in .minetest/worlds/world |
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BuckarooBanzai |
ah :) |
| 13:38 |
rubenwardy |
it'll print when files are modified, created, or deleted |
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IhrFussel |
Do ABMS run per player or doesn't matter how many players are in one mapblock it will only run once per interval? |
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rubenwardy |
player independent |
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rubenwardy |
only dependent on active blocks |
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TenPlus1 |
hi folks :) |
| 18:28 |
TenPlus1 |
hey Krock |
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Krock |
hi TenPlus1 |
| 18:29 |
TenPlus1 |
I see 5.0 is now in stable... yay :) |
| 18:29 |
TenPlus1 |
will android release be coming soon ? |
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rubenwardy |
already has |
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rubenwardy |
nerzhul is keeping it in beta until 5.0.1 |
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TenPlus1 |
oh, so players can go into google play or f-droid and install 5.0 ? |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 18:30 |
TenPlus1 |
w00t! will look into upgrading server soon |
| 18:31 |
nerzhul |
yep i should look for returns on 5.0.0 as we are not releasing a 5.0.1 i don't know why |
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TenPlus1 |
hi nerzhul |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/milestone/14 |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
nerzhul /6 |
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rubenwardy |
nerzhul ^ |
| 18:32 |
nerzhul |
hi TenPLus1 |
| 18:32 |
nerzhul |
if we are too late just release the current blocker fixes, we can solve others later, as i already said |
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rubenwardy |
5.0.1 should probably be seen as blockers v2 |
| 18:32 |
nerzhul |
1 week since latest release |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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* TenPlus1 |
is eager to test |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
o/ TenPlus1 |
| 18:35 |
TenPlus1 |
hi benrob :) |
| 18:36 |
TenPlus1 |
saw the mt5.0 showcase vid that you assisted nathan with :) was hoping he'd show more tho :P |
| 18:37 |
TenPlus1 |
ooh nice |
| 18:39 |
Krock |
amazing resolution, benrob0329. I cannot watch the beauty of Minetest in realtime |
| 18:39 |
TenPlus1 |
watching "illumination of Illuna" :D |
| 18:41 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: heh, it happens with 1080p60 video :P |
| 18:41 |
TenPlus1 |
quality is indeed amazing :) kewl vids dude |
| 18:43 |
benrob0329 |
Thank you :D |
| 18:46 |
TenPlus1 |
le click |
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Krock |
le like |
| 18:48 |
TenPlus1 |
heh funny :) |
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* TenPlus1 |
secretly smashes the 5 button on phone |
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TenPlus1 |
wut ??? |
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TenPlus1 |
lol |
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TenPlus1 |
laters all :) |
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Krock |
ditto. see ya next weekend |
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Fixer |
wayback machine runs on dial up or smth... |
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benrob0329 |
Hello Megaf |
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benrob0329 |
nerzhul: how long does it usually take for the FreeBSD minetest port to update? |
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Fixer |
wtfuuuck, pinterest now spams general google search? fuck this shit |
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red-045 |
like more then the usual? |
| 21:45 |
red-045 |
pinterest seems to show up a lot if google can't find any good results for something |
| 21:46 |
Fixer |
probably |
| 21:46 |
Fixer |
googling some rare stuff |
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nerzhul |
benrob i don't know |
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VanessaE |
in all the years I've been on the web and thousands of searches, not once has a pinterest result ended up being the thing I want. |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
(and rarely has it even been particularly relevant) |
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