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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2019-01-01

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00:04 IhrFussel Happy New Year!
00:05 rubenwardy Happy new year!
00:06 rud0lf happy happy
00:06 rud0lf i guess you're from .uk?
00:06 rud0lf it's 1am here
00:11 longerstaff13 rud0lf, yep
00:11 longerstaff13 night o/
00:12 rud0lf o/
00:12 rubenwardy Ooh another ukanian
00:12 rud0lf ukrainian
00:13 rud0lf =)
00:13 rud0lf .uk raine
00:13 rubenwardy UK does rain, tbh
00:13 rud0lf oi, moit, y'ad gutta thus fancy accent?
00:13 rud0lf :)
00:15 rud0lf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orD-e_W6Pic
00:15 rud0lf =)
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01:55 ANAND Happy new year everyone!
01:57 shivajiva Happy New Year :)
01:59 ANAND :)
04:28 Calinou happy new year!
04:35 Sokomine happy new year to all of you!
05:02 rdococ ughhh
05:02 rdococ I haven't slept since last year
05:05 rdococ I'm rewriting TSFramework slightly to avoid performing unnecessary computations.
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07:33 benrob0329 Are items supposed to despawn when dropped inside a cart? That seems to ruin the point of being able to drop items in carts
07:43 benrob0329 also, is there a way to set a player's breath amount?
08:02 benrob0329 oh, there is. Just not in the wiki
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08:54 Krock happy new year :)
09:55 nerzhul happy new year
10:40 Krock is there a worldedit command to remove metadata as well?
10:44 ANAND Happy happy new year!
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14:01 tenplus1 hi folks :)
14:01 tenplus1 hi Krock
14:01 Krock hi tenplus1
14:01 tenplus1 o/
14:01 Krock aaagh
14:01 Krock why so unexpected
14:02 tenplus1 unexpected people are unexpected :D
14:02 tenplus1 Happy New Year btw :)
14:02 tenplus1 how'd everyone's start to the NY go ?
14:04 Krock it went well :) how about yo?
14:04 tenplus1 I slept :) was working yesterday...
14:06 Fixer hi Krock, hi tenplus1
14:06 tenplus1 hi fixer :)
14:06 Krock tenplus1: same :)
14:06 Krock hi Fixer
14:07 tenplus1 we may have figured out what was causing server to restart randomly... got some parts on order
14:07 Krock OOM?
14:08 tenplus1 wasnt software based, ups replacement and psu
14:08 tenplus1 and simms
14:08 tenplus1 er... dimms
14:09 Krock oh. the physical server restarted
14:09 tenplus1 yeah... was random as hell, few hours to a month ?!?!
14:10 IcyDiamond i hate how moreblocks sh*ts on tenplus1's stairs mod
14:10 IcyDiamond basically overrides everything
14:10 Krock ten has a stairs mod?
14:10 tenplus1 hi icy...
14:10 IcyDiamond and the rotations suck on moreblocks stairs
14:10 tenplus1 yeah, Stairs Redo...
14:10 IcyDiamond hello
14:11 Krock in 5.0.0-dev they seem to be broken, yes
14:11 tenplus1 had corners and slopes and transparency
14:11 tenplus1 has 5.0 support tho
14:11 IcyDiamond grr
14:11 tenplus1 5.0 is breaking a lot of things of late :(
14:13 Fixer btw MTG has corner stairs now!
14:14 tenplus1 yeah it does :) stairs redo uses these and registers an alias for the older names I had beforehand
14:15 IcyDiamond im playing minetest with my girlfriend
14:15 IcyDiamond xD
14:16 tenplus1 kewl, what ya building ?
14:17 IcyDiamond just random stuff
14:17 tenplus1 always the best start :)
14:22 Krock something overrides the moreblocks' after_place_node
14:23 tenplus1 ? stairsplus ?
14:24 Krock yes, I'm talking about moreblocks' stairsplus
14:24 Krock minetest.rotate_node works great
14:24 IcyDiamond stairsplus is sucky
14:24 tenplus1 yeah
14:24 tenplus1 too many options and nodes, it's like custom lego all over again
14:25 IcyDiamond i disabled it on my server by commenting out code
14:25 IcyDiamond lol
14:25 tenplus1 same, I use my own version of moreblocks (on notabug.org) ehe
14:25 tenplus1 and moreores
14:27 Krock > not creating a PR to make the original any better
14:28 tenplus1 since 5.0 has corners, why not add slopes as well and we wouldnt need aditional  mods for stair addons :)
14:28 tenplus1 brb
14:29 Krock moreblocks alone doesn't behave wrong
14:29 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_19-01-01-16:28:58.png
14:29 Krock checking which mod makes it bad in combination
14:29 IcyDiamond gosh darn it
14:29 Krock nice shaders
14:29 IcyDiamond why do unknown nodes take so long to break
14:29 IcyDiamond this is annoying
14:32 Krock /deleteblocks here
14:36 tenplus1 /deleteblocks here 20,000
14:36 tenplus1 :P
14:37 Krock AHA! The weird placement only applies for default:
14:51 tenplus1 how's the minetest_game coming along ? we got any actual game additions
15:00 tenplus1 I did like the idea of the steampunk additions which would be different enough and more interesting than minecraft's redstone
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15:48 tenplus1 hi fussel
15:51 IhrFussel Hey tenplus1
15:51 tenplus1 hows the new year coming along ?
15:53 IhrFussel It's alright...wasn't too special for me...I hope you celebrated more :P
15:53 tenplus1 lol nope :)
15:54 tenplus1 was working and fault finding server :)
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16:03 tenplus1 wb
16:04 ANAND Happy new year, tenplus1 :)
16:05 tenplus1 and to you too :)
16:06 ANAND Thanks
16:08 tenplus1 :P
16:18 Krock technic + basic_materials = infinite fuel
16:19 tenplus1 technic + basic_materials + farming redo = infinite donuts
16:19 Krock with 4.5 oil extract bottles you can charge two chainsaws which are capable producing more than 10 stacks of oil bottles
16:20 Krock that's an amazing ROI
16:24 tenplus1 :P
16:33 IhrFussel sofar, are you 100 (and I mean 100!!)% positive that will will NEVER corrupt the map and never break anything in the DB? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=339487#p339487
16:33 IhrFussel that this*
16:35 tenplus1 ???  I tried backing up the map while it was still in use and it was corrupted in areas... hrm
16:35 IhrFussel Did you use .backup inside sqlite3 ?
16:36 tenplus1 cant remember, was a script :P
16:37 IhrFussel I remember when I used 'cp' it corrupted the map once... but maybe .backup directly while you have the DB opened is safe to use
16:37 tenplus1 <fingers crossed>
16:38 Krock just make a backup before you run the script
16:38 Krock oh wait..
16:38 tenplus1 lol
16:39 IhrFussel I ask #sqlite ... they should know
16:40 * Shara sneaks in and drops one of those "Happy New Year" greeting things on everyone
16:40 tenplus1 Happy new Year Shara
16:40 Shara Hi Ten :)
16:40 tenplus1 allo o/
16:41 IhrFussel Happy New Year Shara
16:41 Shara :)
16:41 Shara Any exciting mod updates, Ten? :P
16:42 tenplus1 fixed a few bugs in mobs api, other than that nothing mod related... got a few parts on order for server though, hopefully tracked down power issue
16:42 Shara Ohh, will hope that's soon taken care of for you then :)
16:43 tenplus1 should arrive in the next few days then Shinji will instal
16:44 tenplus1 saw the mod review for OtherWorlds on youtube...  is it just me or is nathan not so eager to review mods
16:45 Shara Didn't know he'd done one on that
16:46 tenplus1 yeah, we need more ppl to review mods on youtube I think
16:46 tenplus1 I'd do it myself but my voice it just too damned sexy
16:46 Shara hehehe
16:51 Shara Seems he's reached this one better from a quick look :)
16:51 Shara researched*
16:54 tenplus1 still a great addition to the higher areas of the map :)
16:54 tenplus1 we need more layers
16:57 Shara I was going to add more layers where black space is... but then players started building there
16:57 tenplus1 ahh, they beat you too it :D heh
16:57 Shara One even used the black node from the rgb mod to build a perfectly black spaceship of some kind in the blackness...
16:58 Shara Totoally  invisible to the eye :D
16:58 Shara Totally*
16:58 tenplus1 nice one, should be in screenshot forum :D
16:58 Shara Hehehe
16:59 tenplus1 heyym did I show you the new Hyrule game that's been classed as Minecraft II ?
16:59 Shara I think I read something about that somewhere
17:00 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TLkIeY0CY
17:00 tenplus1 microsoft will have the reigns snatched from it in the building/mining/adventure game arena :D
17:03 tenplus1 foody arrived :) yay, laters folks...
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17:24 Krock awful intro "music"
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18:06 IhrFussel Never try pasting a .we schem file into your terminal... I feel like I'm in the 90's
18:06 IhrFussel Why is pasting today STILL so slow?
18:13 IhrFussel I'm not kidding...it's still pasting
18:13 Fixer does it play music along the way?
18:14 Fixer also, you know what is coming
18:15 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ao97vrAkF8
18:16 IhrFussel I mean okay it's ssh so a remote connection... but nobody thought of a faster way to paste into remote terminals in the last 10 years?
18:16 Krock Fixer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uN0dgexJ8s
18:16 IhrFussel It goes at a rate of ~ 100 chars per second ... just terrible
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18:20 BuckarooBanzai hi all
18:20 BuckarooBanzai is anyone here that can answer my questions regarding the minetest-wiki? (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=338417#p338417)
18:22 Krock c55 runs the wiki, but Calin0u manages the accounts (maybe someone else too)
18:23 rubenwardy and sof4r
18:23 Krock ah okay
18:24 Krock an update wouldn't be bad but luckily it still works as it should
18:24 IhrFussel I also find it funny that you cannot simply interrupt the pasting with ^C
18:24 rubenwardy ^C is a character sent on the buffer
18:25 rubenwardy so the terminal will receive ^C only after it has received everything before it
18:25 BuckarooBanzai (happy new year, by the way :)
18:25 Krock IhrFussel: just close the connection
18:25 Krock and re-open once the paste flood is done
18:25 IhrFussel Will it count as "unexpected close" and wipe the history for that session?
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18:26 Krock the history is kept
18:27 Krock it should append only
18:27 IhrFussel Krock, but if you unexpectedly lose connection/close it will not save the history of that session
18:56 benrob0329 But no really, why do items still despawn when inside a cart?
18:57 benrob0329 thats really stupid and makes me feel like it wasn't tested properly
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19:23 tumeninodes Happy Birthday Everyone! :D
19:23 tumeninodes ... wait, that's not right
19:26 Krock happy birthday 90% of the steam users
19:26 tumeninodes !tell tenplus1 have you guys checked the motherboard itself for all the circuits related to power, and also the power switch? SOmetimes these things let go or get glitchy
19:26 MinetestBot tumeninodes: I'll pass that on when tenplus1 is around
19:26 Krock I think you meant that
19:26 tumeninodes ahh yes, that's exactly what I meant :D
19:28 tumeninodes awful lotta people on the web born on Jan 1
20:21 sofar IhrFussel: using sqlite3's builtin backup command is the safest way to backup your map.sqlite as sqlite3 knows when stuff is locked and will wait for transactions to complete before saving the data. If the ".backup" call creates corrupt data it would be a critical upstream sqlite3 bug for sure. Shutting down the server is great, but you can make backups many, many more times and do it safely while the server is online with sqlite3 this ways.
20:31 IhrFussel sofar, it might not be a good idea to execute it on a 49 GB map though
20:31 IhrFussel I guess it would take lots of hours for just 1 backup...if not days
20:48 nerzhul IhrFussel: no
20:48 nerzhul and it's a proper backup
20:48 nerzhul i agree with sofar
20:50 IhrFussel How can .backup be much faster than for example /clearobjects full?
20:50 sofar it doesn't need to modify anything
20:50 sofar so it doesn't take locks
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20:51 IhrFussel Do you have any estimates? For example 1 GB DB takes x minutes
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21:14 Krock takes 64 hours for me using floppy drives
21:18 sofar IhrFussel: I don't, my server has a map that's barely 60mb so I can't really compare. You'll have to just try it once
21:26 * longerstaff13 appears and says "Meow"
21:34 Fixer Krock: steam users ^^:D
22:56 nerzhul IhrFussel : at work i do a 1GB backup in ~1 sec on a sqlite db...
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23:07 GreenDimond mobs redo is broken as hecc. Anyone know why get_staticdata returns the string properly but on_activate gets an empty string?
23:08 GreenDimond Where is TenPlus1 when you need him
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23:26 benrob0329 is there a way to increase the top speed of carts?
23:30 GreenDimond benrob0329: carts init.lua, change carts.speed_max and carts.punch_speed_max
23:33 Fixer HE
23:33 Fixer GreenDimond: what happened to HOMETOWN?
23:33 GreenDimond It vanished
23:34 GreenDimond Without explanation
23:35 GreenDimond Now that I think about it, I bet the host wiped the machine it was hosted on since they probably didn't get paid for a month.
23:35 GreenDimond But as for why it stopped in the first place I have no idea
23:36 Fixer they have a backup I'm sure
23:37 GreenDimond One would think
23:37 GreenDimond But that was an 100GB+ map file
23:40 tumeninodes sadly, I have a feeling something bad has happened to someone in their family. They would never have simply dropped everything and left everyone hanging were it not something very serious
23:40 GreenDimond Unfortunately
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