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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-12-25

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08:37 Krock ??
08:38 VanessaE bah humbug :P
09:19 ANAND Merry christmas!
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10:39 shivajiva Merry Christmas folks!
10:39 Krock merry xmas
10:39 shivajiva :)
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12:17 rubenwardy Happy yuletide!
12:18 Shara Merry Christmas / Bah-humbug Day, whichever you prefer :)
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13:18 shivajiva This Christmas
13:18 shivajiva No greater gift
13:18 shivajiva Could come to me
13:18 shivajiva Than just
13:18 shivajiva For once
13:18 shivajiva For once
13:18 shivajiva To see
13:18 shivajiva My own children
13:18 shivajiva Just being happy.
13:19 shivajiva sums Christmas up nicely =)
13:25 VanessaE shivajiva: you DO realize something don't you?
13:25 VanessaE you just sounded EXACTLY like you-know-who.
13:25 VanessaE (nice sentiment though)
13:25 VanessaE also, bah humbug :P
13:26 ANAND :)
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14:37 shivajiva wait a minute, that poem makes sense unlike the other fella and conveys a sentiment not a dollop of crap :P
14:37 VanessaE heh
14:38 shivajiva thanks for the comparison, just what I needed :)
14:38 VanessaE well, rarely his .... musings... make sense. :P
14:38 VanessaE just trying to brighten your day :)
14:39 shivajiva your slice of Belgian chocolate yule log with fresh cream has been given to the neighbours dog
14:39 VanessaE poor dog :'(
14:39 VanessaE chocolate is bad for dogs
14:39 shivajiva oh yea dogs n chocolate don't mix
14:40 shivajiva nvm it barks too much, no loss XD
14:40 VanessaE D:
14:40 VanessaE NOOOOO
14:41 shivajiva LOL just kidding xD
14:41 rubenwardy >:(
14:41 * VanessaE loves her dog
14:42 shivajiva a lot of people will admit they spend more on their pet than their partner this time of year
14:42 VanessaE there's nothing like coming home from the store and being greeted by loud, happy barks :)
14:43 shivajiva Oh yea, I totally get that, the kind of friend that never lets you down too
14:44 VanessaE yep :)
14:45 shivajiva Hi ruben, what you pulling faces at?
14:48 Krock t dogs
14:48 shivajiva I'm vegetarian so anything I say about hurting animals is tongue in cheek lol :P
14:48 * VanessaE sneaks over to the table and grabs another slice from the chocolate log :)
14:49 shivajiva heh np, serves 8, want some squirty cream with that?
14:49 VanessaE ...
14:50 VanessaE that sounds horrible wrong, shivajiva ....
14:50 VanessaE horribly*
14:50 VanessaE rubenwardy: awwwww
14:50 shivajiva only if your mind is in the sewer :P
14:50 rubenwardy she gets her own present
14:50 VanessaE shivajiva: if?
14:50 rubenwardy that's just a box from someone else's though
14:50 shivajiva LOL
14:50 rubenwardy she finished hers in about 1 minutes
14:51 VanessaE heh
14:51 shivajiva she looks intelligent, nice collar
14:53 rubenwardy :D
14:53 rubenwardy She had reindeer antlers on at one point, but she quickly got them off
14:54 shivajiva fun but slightly bonkers no wonder they didn't last long lol
15:09 rubenwardy Just supported a vulnerability in CDB!
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16:25 tumeninodes Melly Clistmas Evlybuddy!
16:33 BillyS Merry Christmas!
16:34 BillyS In order to convert an MineCraft (yes, I said it) to a Minetest skin, do I only have to remove the bottom half of it>
16:34 BillyS *?
16:34 Jordach some models like mine support the newer format
16:34 Jordach but aren't exactly *common*
16:35 BillyS This server uses player_anim, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't support the newer format
16:37 aerozoic Just fyi, the multiskin mod supports all formats.
16:38 Jordach and probs uses a different model which player_anim does not support
16:55 shivajiva the pixel server has a nice tool that does the slice properly as some rearranging is required to make it work afaik
16:56 shivajiva https://minetest.tv/skin-converter.php
16:57 shivajiva *The Pixel Shadow
17:10 rubenwardy or this: https://godly.github.io/minetest-skin-converter/
17:28 shivajiva nice, not seen that one
17:47 Krock that page seriously needs some better HTML styling
17:50 rubenwardy lol
17:50 rubenwardy works though
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18:18 Fixer Happy Christmas to you all! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT1XuPqIFGw
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18:21 IhrFussel https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=338901#p338901 << that is false info, why do so many players assume that the map stalling bug is "server lag"?? That makes absolutely no sense cause EVERYTHING else works
18:23 IhrFussel I will have to reply to that to prevent more people from believing this
18:44 IhrFussel https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=338906#p338906
19:05 Fixer rubenwardy: you busy?
19:05 rubenwardy heh
19:08 Fixer kek
19:09 Fixer rubenwardy: does Browse online content handle those dependancies?
19:09 Fixer rubenwardy: i mean modpack with external depends
19:09 rubenwardy no lol
19:09 rubenwardy it doesn't handle any dependencies
19:09 rubenwardy at all
19:09 Fixer sorry, i've copy-pasted text a bit shitly
19:09 Fixer oj
19:09 rubenwardy the website does
19:10 rubenwardy the website downloads things you upload to it, and works out all the external depends of a modpack
19:10 Fixer rubenwardy: so when I download homedecor via minetest, i will need to satisfy depends myself?
19:10 rubenwardy so you never see a mod inside the modpack as a dep
19:10 rubenwardy yes, until the inmenu installer has support for deps
19:10 Fixer oh ok
19:11 Fixer rubenwardy: i think your Content thing should be much more discoverable, not a button, but integrate into tab itself
19:11 Fixer rubenwardy: maybe even merged totally
19:12 Fixer rubenwardy: see this? https://i.imgur.com/Kx4mRk0.png it is pretty much the same thing as browse online content
19:12 Fixer rubenwardy: what I suggest is just dump this whole thing and replace with https://i.imgur.com/Kw5Yxcc.png in that tab
19:13 Fixer rubenwardy: it already lists installed package as well, if those are outside of repos, just list them as (external)
19:13 Fixer i will post an issue about that
19:14 rubenwardy I don't think there would be enough width
19:14 rubenwardy the issue is that you can't change the size of the main menu tabs because it would be inconsistent
19:14 rubenwardy I don't think fstk even allows you to
19:14 Fixer then we make everything wider :)
19:16 Fixer rubenwardy: have you encountered lags in creative tab, with say homedecor? example https://i.imgur.com/MZ0hrHd.gif
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21:05 IhrFussel Oh and Merry Christmas from me too guys ... sorry I don't really celebrate this year
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21:22 IhrFussel Is there anything users with the INVALID_ENUM can do before the bugfix releases? Like edit their conf ??
21:29 jas_ someone on forum pointed the user to github releases page referencing 0.4.16.  does gh releases offer apks?
21:32 Krock IhrFussel: compile their own version
21:36 IhrFussel jas_, that is actually a good idea, yes it does
21:37 IhrFussel I told them to use 0.4.16 in the meantime
22:33 Jordach android: the platform MT should never have expanded to
22:42 Fixer Jordach: children ruining servers everywhere? :}
22:43 Fixer minecraft ruined since 2012 or so
22:43 IhrFussel Imagine how dead the server list would be without mobile users...probably 50-70% less
22:44 Fixer minetest servers were flooded with kids a little later, somewhere during late 0.4.x era
22:44 Fixer IhrFussel: yep, like 90% will be gone
22:44 Fixer 90% are mobile users
22:44 Fixer 10% are some crazy overclocked geeks
22:44 Krock > implying that I'm 0%
22:44 Jordach i'd take the adhd geeks over bland 12 year olds
22:45 Fixer those are FOSS terrorists who rebel against minecraft rule
22:45 IhrFussel 12? Some of my players claim to be 8
22:45 Fixer r e s i s t
22:45 Jordach *on average*
22:45 Krock IhrFussel: seen families play today. 6+ years
22:45 Fixer IhrFussel: i knew 13 yr old who developed CPP addons to a game, now that's holy shit
22:46 Fixer windows users are particularly rare
22:46 Fixer we need new stats from sfan5 :)
22:47 Fixer windows is like 10% of 10% o_o
22:47 Fixer https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2018-03-06.txt
22:48 Fixer desktop: ~9%
22:48 Fixer windows: ~4%, holy crap
22:48 tumeninodes android is shit. It's for people who don't care and want even less control the MS WIndows gives them
22:48 Fixer out of desktop ones
22:48 Krock ^ sfan5, would you please be so nice and update it again?
22:48 sfan5 not today
22:48 Krock ofc. whenever you've got time to run the script :D
22:48 tumeninodes *than
22:48 sfan5 but I can do so soon, ofc
22:49 Krock thank you :)
22:49 tumeninodes android is the baby-sitter OS
22:49 sfan5 it's not a script actually, most of it is manually looking at things
22:49 Fixer if my calc is right, minetest windows users are 0.35%
22:49 Fixer o_O
22:49 Krock oh, I thought the bundled script on the bottom was to automate most of it
22:50 sfan5 well yes, I can copy-paste most of that
22:50 sfan5 but it's not a real 'script' that will get me the report automatically
22:50 Fixer lol, fuck, yes, 0.35% of user base are windows users
22:50 Fixer that's like me, Krock, Jordach and some other guy
22:51 Fixer .________.
22:51 tumeninodes hmmm, Mac must be 1-2%
22:51 Fixer yes, 1% of all userbase
22:52 Fixer damn
22:52 Fixer sad!
22:52 tumeninodes Mac's get the shaft all the time
22:54 tumeninodes Apple messed up years ago, when they decided to go proprietary software, as well as their long romance with proprietary hardware
22:54 Fixer fuck apple people in particular
22:54 Fixer and marry christmas to them
22:55 tumeninodes wait till they all get their Merry Xmas pay the bill cards a couple mos from now xD
22:56 Fixer what I degenerated to, downloading 1 gigabytes of MIDI files, and for what?
22:57 tumeninodes ummm, fixier-ing MTG sound files? :D
22:57 tumeninodes *Fixer-ing
22:57 Fixer rings some bells about adding tracker music support in minetest engine
22:58 tumeninodes didn't someone do some work with something like that some time, maybe last year?
22:58 tumeninodes midi files w MTG or something
23:00 tumeninodes https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=18288&amp;hilit=midi
23:00 tumeninodes Title
23:00 tumeninodes !title
23:00 MinetestBot tumeninodes: [Modpack] MIDI [midi] - Minetest Forums
23:02 tumeninodes gotta love Rui
23:02 Fixer interesting
23:05 Fixer added to bookmarks
23:07 Krock Fixer: I don't use Windows any more. Linux user for 1.5 years now
23:08 Fixer Krock: congrats and... fuck microsoft, glad you jumped the ship
23:08 Krock as in really. all systems converted from XP straight to Xubuntu. Love it.
23:10 Fixer linux is just a kernel
23:10 Fixer daily reminder
23:20 jas_ ye i got it on my phone
23:21 jas_ i installed buster alpha 4 on a new headless pc, mm hope it works OK
23:22 jas_ i wish i could put a good linux distro on me phone, this android business is not so much fun, lol
23:26 jas_ i got win10 on a laptop but don't dare put debian on it yet, because i know i'll lose at least one nice feature lmao
23:39 Jordach jas_: what laptop?
23:45 Fixer """one nice feature"""
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