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00:43 ircSparky its not that im trying to replace fences with a different node, im trying to make things only stack up to 20, and perhaps also only be diggable with the right tool, but its making fences and technic cables not connect
01:06 rubenwardy Sounds like another mod is interfering
01:06 rubenwardy Perhaps with its own overrides
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01:26 ircSparky i dont think i am
01:26 ircSparky https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V8jhmVRctV/
01:26 ircSparky this breaks connections with just minetest_game
01:27 ircSparky im also having this issue with clumpfall
01:27 VanessaE minetest.override_item("", {range = 3,}  ?/
01:28 VanessaE doesn't that need to be   (":",
01:30 ircSparky that makes minetest crash
01:30 ircSparky "attempt to override not-existent item"
01:33 rubenwardy You don't need the override char with override
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01:33 rubenwardy Passing ":" is the same as registering with ":"
01:33 rubenwardy Oopa
01:33 rubenwardy Registering with "::"
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01:43 ircSparky so it works for you? dosnt for me. at any rate the ones that dont work are add_toolsonly and add_lowstack
01:43 ircSparky add_shortrange works just fine
01:53 TommyTreasure just curious.  are the coordinates displayed in ServerEnv warnings map block coordinates?  if so, how do i convert them to actual map coords?
01:57 ircSparky map blocks are 16x16(x16?), so i would assume you just multiple them by 16
01:57 TommyTreasure thanks, i'm going to give that a try to see if the warnings lead to the issue
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02:10 TommyTreasure thanks again ircSparky. it led me directly to the area where the problem was
02:12 ircSparky ok sweet. np
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10:56 Tenplus1 o/ folks
11:02 rubenwardy So, do I fix my mail server
11:03 Tenplus1 hi ruben
11:03 rubenwardy Or do I add a cronjob to restart it every day
11:03 Tenplus1 which is easier ?
11:05 rubenwardy Definitely the latter
11:05 Tenplus1 :) so long as it does the job and mail server works properly
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11:20 Tenplus1 hi Jordach
11:24 Jordach i'm only here half an hour
11:24 Jordach then back to wor
11:24 Tenplus1 quick visit :d
11:28 ChimneySwift hey Tenplus1
11:28 Tenplus1 hi chimney
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11:36 Tenplus1 hey mister
11:38 Mr_Pardison *yawns* morning
11:39 Tenplus1 :PP
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13:09 Tenplus1 o/
13:13 Tenplus1 lolol
13:18 Mr_Pardison plot twist!
13:18 Tenplus1 heh
13:27 longerstaff13 meow
13:27 Tenplus1 hey longer
13:27 longerstaff13 ello
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13:41 Mr_Pardison mew
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14:04 Tenplus1 o/ Krock
14:04 Krock hi Tenplus1
14:05 Krock one handed typing :)
14:05 Krock BLAZING FAST
14:06 Tenplus1 eheh
14:06 Mr_Pardison skills!'
14:06 Krock rubenwardy: both. cronjob until you're in the mood to fix it correctly
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14:20 Tenplus1 hi billy
14:20 BillyS I'm back. :P
14:20 BillyS hi
14:20 BillyS I have a wierd issue wiht my server
14:20 BillyS *with
14:20 BillyS Nodes randomly disappear
14:21 BillyS But its always the same nodes
14:21 BillyS I've checked the logs and roolback, and there is nothing
14:21 BillyS *rollback
14:21 BillyS Any ideas?
14:21 Mr_Pardison yay!
14:21 Tenplus1 did you recently change the map type ?
14:21 Mr_Pardison Welcome back m8.
14:21 BillyS Tenplus, nope
14:21 BillyS thx Mr_P
14:22 BillyS I don't think I've ever changed the map type
14:22 Tenplus1 any mod changes or updates ?
14:22 BillyS Hmm ... I've updated quite a few mods
14:22 Tenplus1 can you remember which ones >?
14:22 BillyS And this started happening a while ago ... I doubt I could pinpoint it
14:23 BillyS Mainly Techpack
14:23 BillyS As well as terumet ...
14:23 BillyS I don't see how either of those could do it
14:23 Tenplus1 in your minetest.conf file, does it save map changes regularly ?
14:24 BillyS Tenplus, I think it's at the default
14:24 Tenplus1 cant think what else it could be then
14:24 BillyS Does the server shut down regularly when it receives a kill signal?
14:25 Krock o/ BillyS
14:25 BillyS Hey Krock
14:25 Krock grep -r "node:name" look out for LBMs
14:26 BillyS Krock, on my logs?
14:26 Krock no, mods.
14:26 BillyS ah
14:26 BillyS Was wondering about the -r. :P
14:26 Krock maybe a mod wants to update those each time the mapblock loads after server shutdown
14:26 BillyS One of them is a rail
14:27 Krock try placing another node on its place
14:27 BillyS And its always in the same place, so probably not an LBM
14:27 BillyS I'll check tho
14:27 BillyS m'kay
14:27 Krock if that node disappears then it's a malfunctioning mod which digs nodes
14:27 Tenplus1 same place, meaning you can place nodes elsewhere and they save but this one area ?
14:28 BillyS yes
14:30 BillyS Its mainly on the rails ... I wonder if there is an issue with boost_carts or something
14:31 BillyS Next time one disappears though Ill put something different and try
14:53 Krock boost_cart does not place nodes
14:53 Krock or dig
15:00 Krock BillyS: 5 day diff of the map, changes are highlighted: https://i.imgur.com/osFp3WW.png
15:02 BillyS Krock, kewl
15:02 BillyS Howd ya do that?
15:02 BillyS Well, what software?
15:02 Krock GIMP aka Green Is My Pepper
15:02 Krock and minetestmapper
15:03 BillyS ah, cool
15:07 Krock which reminds me of extending my colors.txt file
15:10 Tenplus1 Shara: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RWsU7DYaOI
15:12 Shara >.>
15:12 BillyS <.<
15:12 Tenplus1 caverealms_lite review :P
15:12 * Mr_Pardison clicks
15:12 Mr_Pardison I think it's awesome but I'm curious to see what they think.
15:15 Shara He mostly sounds confused and doesn't understand things :D
15:16 Mr_Pardison yeah.
15:16 Shara I don't know why he doesn't ask before filming so he could sound, well, informed.
15:16 Tenplus1 true
15:17 Tenplus1 ehehe
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15:30 Tenplus1 wb Gael
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15:37 Tenplus1 wb
15:37 Tenplus1 -.-
15:47 longerstaff13 lol
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15:48 BillyS_ yay back
15:48 Tenplus1 o/
15:48 BillyS_ My server has a penality
15:48 BillyS_ highly loaded server: -7
15:48 BillyS_ How can I get rid of that?
15:49 Tenplus1 how'd it get a penalty ?
15:50 BillyS_ No idea
15:50 BillyS_ I just looked in the serverlist
15:50 BillyS_ Or rather used ruben's serverlist.py script
15:52 Krock here's the checklist. look out for "-" https://github.com/minetest/master-server/blob/master/server.py#L319
15:55 Tenplus1 !server xanadu
15:55 MinetestBot Tenplus1: Xanadu | 98.166.127.241 | Clients: 9/40, 2/12 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 109ms
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16:20 IhrFussel Known bug? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=328780#p328780
16:21 IhrFussel And hi
16:21 Tenplus1 hi fussel
16:22 Krock hi ihr
16:26 IhrFussel The bug is "main menu clouds have kinda the color of the server sky"
16:27 IhrFussel Which is red during that event
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16:32 Tenplus1 hi Darc
16:32 Tenplus1 *ide
16:33 Tenplus1 lol
16:33 IhrFussel I can confirm the bug
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16:35 IhrFussel I have no time to test in 5.0.0-dev though so if someone wants to: Change sky color to something unusual via set_sky() then join and leave to main menu
16:36 IhrFussel See if cloud color matches sky color
16:36 IhrFussel See if the main menu cloud color matches the SP world sky color*
16:38 paramat yes known bug, normally clouds are darkened
16:42 IhrFussel The clouds turn red when the server sky is red
16:42 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4727 please add your experience
16:43 IhrFussel You can check the screenshots thread for an image
16:46 paramat yes seen that
16:49 IhrFussel It#s really that simple...join a server with unusual "plain" sky (not sure if it happens with custom textures) and leave again...no other steps
16:55 IhrFussel Commented with exact set_sky() line from my code
16:56 IhrFussel "EDIT: Since Blood Night only happens at night on my server, maybe it could depend on it being night time as well but not sure."
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17:02 Tenplus1 wb gary
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17:16 Tenplus1 hi andrey
17:16 Andrey01 hi
17:18 Andrey01 i`ve written a code if dig ore it will give you random amount of ingots, but however it can not be dug!
17:18 Tenplus1 use pastebin and show us code
17:18 Andrey01 do i need to post my code on gist?
17:18 Andrey01 i will post it on gist.github
17:19 Tenplus1 ok
17:19 Andrey01 https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/bd2d0651ca764a1923c98efe101fa60d
17:19 Tenplus1 checking...
17:20 Andrey01 the code is easy. but why can that ore not be dug?
17:21 Tenplus1 when you call on_dig you have to add items, add wear to tool and remove node yourself remember
17:22 Tenplus1 you could use  after_dig_node(pos, node, player) to add items and leave on_dig to do it's own thing
17:23 Andrey01 ok
17:24 Andrey01 now it is working. but i don`t get any items in creative mode
17:25 Andrey01 maybe does it work only i nsurvival one?
17:25 Andrey01 in*
17:25 Tenplus1 in creative mode any items added to inventory are only added once
17:25 Tenplus1 you can dig 100 dirt, but only 1 in inventory cause you can place that 1 dirt 100 times
17:26 Tenplus1 test in survival
17:27 Andrey01 ok, thanks
17:28 Andrey01 there is an error in my code that i can not find out why it is happening, may you help me?
17:28 Andrey01 i`ll post it on gist.github again
17:30 Tenplus1 k
17:31 Tenplus1 post new link when done
17:33 Andrey01 https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/b675bd69ac4069fe993a1c6008eb7aed
17:33 Andrey01 an error is happening on line 4
17:34 Andrey01 bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
17:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
17:34 Tenplus1 andrey, what is the error ?
17:36 Andrey01 bad argument to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
17:36 Tenplus1 k, so the 'input' doesnt contain anything
17:36 Tenplus1 what's the next line in the error ?
17:37 Andrey01 do you need to see the error message entirely?
17:37 Tenplus1 it would help
17:38 Tenplus1 another line is calling misc.max_table_value() and sending it nothing instead of a table... you gotta backtrace the error from that
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17:38 Andrey01 i`ve posted error there in same gist
17:39 Andrey01 but why is 'input' nil?
17:39 Andrey01 on line 32 it`s written: particles_time = {start = 0, end_ = misc.max_table_value(particles_spawners_def[2])},
17:40 Tenplus1 also line 119
17:41 Tenplus1 particles_spawners_def.time ??? what is this
17:41 Tenplus1 is it meant to be:   particlesspawner_def.time
17:42 Andrey01 it spawns immediately few particles_spawners
17:43 Andrey01 in arbitrary places
17:43 Andrey01 and by one function:misc.create_particle_spawner()
17:43 Tenplus1 I see that, seems line 119 is sending it a weird table that isnt defined
17:44 Tenplus1 that's why I asked if the variable: particles_spawners_def.time should really be: particlespawners_def.time
17:47 Andrey01 particlespawners_def.time doesn`t actually exist
17:49 Andrey01 it seems "particles_spawners_def.time" i need to replace to "particles_spawners_def[2]", because first varyable doesn`t exist
17:49 Tenplus1 are you posting the actual .lua file or a snippet of code... the line numbers dont seem to match up with error message
17:50 Andrey01 ok
17:50 Andrey01 i`ll upload all file
17:52 Andrey01 i`ll updated that gist, only the code is huge
17:52 Tenplus1 that's ok... need to see complete code for any errors that occur
17:53 Tenplus1 yeah, line 288 is the cause
17:53 Tenplus1 it's not sending a proper table to the max_table_value() function
17:53 Tenplus1 fix that and it'll work
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17:53 Tenplus1 hi lisac
17:53 lisac hey ten :)
17:53 lisac 11
17:54 Tenplus1 o//
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17:58 Andrey01 no, 288 line doesn`t cause error, because particles_spawners_def[2] is true
17:59 Andrey01 when i replaced to that it was wroking fine
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17:59 Tenplus1 in the error you showed me, line 173 errored which was called from line 288, meaning you sent a bogus table to the function
17:59 Tenplus1 wb Jordach
18:00 Andrey01 "time" field doesn`t exist, this has other index
18:02 Andrey01 https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/b675bd69ac4069fe993a1c6008eb7aed#file-misc-lua-L510
18:03 Andrey01 ^^ here you can make sure in it
18:04 Tenplus1 am just pointing out the line that's causing error, you hve to fix the table being passed
18:06 Tenplus1 you can have a quick fix by adding after line171 this:   input = input or {}
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18:16 Tenplus1 hi ben
18:17 Jordach beep
18:17 Tenplus1 wb
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18:58 Tenplus1 wb ssieb
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19:12 Tenplus1 o/
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19:31 Tenplus1 hi aerozoic
19:31 Andrey01 here is syntax error that i can not understand why it causes: clicker:set_animation({x=1,y=1}, frame_speed=15, frame_blend=160.1)
19:32 aerozoic wazup Tenplus1 !
19:32 Andrey01 ')' expected near '='
19:32 Andrey01 really is there any syntax error here???
19:33 sfan5 Andrey01: lua does not have named parameters
19:33 sfan5 not in the way you're trying to use them at least
19:34 Andrey01 well here it is written so:https://dev.minetest.net/Player
19:34 sfan5 still incorrect
19:35 aerozoic Would migrating my 20GB map from sqlite to postgre show any benefits on an older computer?
19:36 Tenplus1 Andrey01: clicker:set_animation({x=1,y=1}, 15, 160.1)
19:36 sfan5 depends, what do you inted to improve by migrating?
19:38 aerozoic sfan5, i've had issues with rollback when the rollback file gets large.
19:38 sfan5 rollback only supports sqlite
19:38 Tenplus1 easier to disable :P
19:38 aerozoic oh, does that mean if i migrated the map, rollback wouldn't work? Or rollback would continue to be sqlite?
19:39 sfan5 latter
19:39 aerozoic ok, i'm also trying to reduce bandwidth
19:40 sfan5 bandwidth to/from where??
19:40 aerozoic Does the different map DB's effect bandwidth?
19:40 aerozoic From the server to the client
19:40 sfan5 then the answer is no
19:40 aerozoic thanks sfan5 :)
19:41 aerozoic So migrating will give me no help.
19:41 aerozoic Would it improve map chunks loading when running across the map?
19:42 aerozoic Or is that mostly a bandwidth issue?
19:42 sfan5 hard to say
19:42 sfan5 your disk might be too slow, your network might be too slow, or minetest might just be incorrectly configured
19:42 sfan5 that assumes the problem does not lie on the client of course
19:43 aerozoic I'm comparing my self-hosted server to the same server hosted on a hosting service.
19:43 aerozoic So same client.
19:44 aerozoic It's most likely the network. My upload is only 2Mb :(
19:45 Tenplus1 you on virgin media ?
19:45 aerozoic comcast
19:45 Tenplus1 ekk
19:46 ssieb tenplus1: my internet here is terrible, so I'll be randomly reconnecting... :-(
19:46 Tenplus1 everyone is having issues today, is ok... even mines was down earlier
19:47 aerozoic Rollback is annoying me though. It becomes basically useless after a few weeks.
19:48 aerozoic The server freezes for even a 60 second rollback. But if i delete the file, it's fine for another couple weeks.
19:48 Tenplus1 that's why I disble it and rely on protection, especially on a survival server
19:48 aerozoic I mainly use it for myself when i start screwing around with WE, lol
19:49 Tenplus1 lol, gotta be careful :P
19:53 aerozoic Ok question about compiling MT...
19:54 Tenplus1 I asked ubuntu/debian devs why minetest requires python2 as dependency when it's not used
19:54 aerozoic If i git clone the tag 0.4.16 and then i want to update to 4.17, do i have to recompile or simply git fetch with the 0.4.17 tag?
19:54 Tenplus1 aerozoic: why not just download from stable
19:55 aerozoic Welp, i compiled 4.16 a long time ago so that's already done. Now i just don't know if i have to recompile again after i update.
19:56 Tenplus1 dunno, I tend to download from stable and install ove rthe top of existing
19:57 aerozoic Actually i think i should use git pull instead of fetch.
19:57 Tenplus1 :P
19:57 aerozoic but idk about recompiling
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20:16 Tenplus1 night all :))
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21:14 ssieb aerozoic: You're changing the source code, so yes, you have to recompile
21:16 aerozoic thx ssieb, Do i have to delete anything or does the recompile correctly overwrite and remove anything obsolete?
21:17 ssieb If the build system is good, then you should just have to recompile.  Otherwise, you can do a "make clean" or equivalent.
21:17 * ssieb doesn't remember off-hand what minetest uses...
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