Time  Nick          Message
00:43 ircSparky     its not that im trying to replace fences with a different node, im trying to make things only stack up to 20, and perhaps also only be diggable with the right tool, but its making fences and technic cables not connect
01:06 rubenwardy    Sounds like another mod is interfering
01:06 rubenwardy    Perhaps with its own overrides
01:26 ircSparky     i dont think i am
01:26 ircSparky     https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V8jhmVRctV/
01:26 ircSparky     this breaks connections with just minetest_game
01:27 ircSparky     im also having this issue with clumpfall
01:27 VanessaE      minetest.override_item("", {range = 3,}  ?/
01:28 VanessaE      doesn't that need to be   (":",
01:30 ircSparky     that makes minetest crash
01:30 ircSparky     "attempt to override not-existent item"
01:33 rubenwardy    You don't need the override char with override
01:33 rubenwardy    Passing ":" is the same as registering with ":"
01:33 rubenwardy    Oopa
01:33 rubenwardy    Registering with "::"
01:43 ircSparky     so it works for you? dosnt for me. at any rate the ones that dont work are add_toolsonly and add_lowstack
01:43 ircSparky     add_shortrange works just fine
01:53 TommyTreasure just curious.  are the coordinates displayed in ServerEnv warnings map block coordinates?  if so, how do i convert them to actual map coords?
01:57 ircSparky     map blocks are 16x16(x16?), so i would assume you just multiple them by 16
01:57 TommyTreasure thanks, i'm going to give that a try to see if the warnings lead to the issue
02:10 TommyTreasure thanks again ircSparky. it led me directly to the area where the problem was
02:12 ircSparky     ok sweet. np
10:56 Tenplus1      o/ folks
11:02 rubenwardy    So, do I fix my mail server
11:03 Tenplus1      hi ruben
11:03 rubenwardy    Or do I add a cronjob to restart it every day
11:03 Tenplus1      which is easier ?
11:05 rubenwardy    Definitely the latter
11:05 Tenplus1      :) so long as it does the job and mail server works properly
11:20 Tenplus1      hi Jordach
11:24 Jordach       i'm only here half an hour
11:24 Jordach       then back to wor
11:24 Tenplus1      quick visit :d
11:28 ChimneySwift  hey Tenplus1
11:28 Tenplus1      hi chimney
11:36 Tenplus1      hey mister
11:38 Mr_Pardison   *yawns* morning
11:39 Tenplus1      :PP
13:09 Tenplus1      o/
13:13 Tenplus1      lolol
13:18 Mr_Pardison   plot twist!
13:18 Tenplus1      heh
13:27 longerstaff13 meow
13:27 Tenplus1      hey longer
13:27 longerstaff13 ello
13:41 Mr_Pardison   mew
14:04 Tenplus1      o/ Krock
14:04 Krock         hi Tenplus1
14:05 Krock         one handed typing :)
14:05 Krock         BLAZING FAST
14:06 Tenplus1      eheh
14:06 Mr_Pardison   skills!'
14:06 Krock         rubenwardy: both. cronjob until you're in the mood to fix it correctly
14:20 Tenplus1      hi billy
14:20 BillyS        I'm back. :P
14:20 BillyS        hi
14:20 BillyS        I have a wierd issue wiht my server
14:20 BillyS        *with
14:20 BillyS        Nodes randomly disappear
14:21 BillyS        But its always the same nodes
14:21 BillyS        I've checked the logs and roolback, and there is nothing
14:21 BillyS        *rollback
14:21 BillyS        Any ideas?
14:21 Mr_Pardison   yay!
14:21 Tenplus1      did you recently change the map type ?
14:21 Mr_Pardison   Welcome back m8.
14:21 BillyS        Tenplus, nope
14:21 BillyS        thx Mr_P
14:22 BillyS        I don't think I've ever changed the map type
14:22 Tenplus1      any mod changes or updates ?
14:22 BillyS        Hmm ... I've updated quite a few mods
14:22 Tenplus1      can you remember which ones >?
14:22 BillyS        And this started happening a while ago ... I doubt I could pinpoint it
14:23 BillyS        Mainly Techpack
14:23 BillyS        As well as terumet ...
14:23 BillyS        I don't see how either of those could do it
14:23 Tenplus1      in your minetest.conf file, does it save map changes regularly ?
14:24 BillyS        Tenplus, I think it's at the default
14:24 Tenplus1      cant think what else it could be then
14:24 BillyS        Does the server shut down regularly when it receives a kill signal?
14:25 Krock         o/ BillyS
14:25 BillyS        Hey Krock
14:25 Krock         grep -r "node:name" look out for LBMs
14:26 BillyS        Krock, on my logs?
14:26 Krock         no, mods.
14:26 BillyS        ah
14:26 BillyS        Was wondering about the -r. :P
14:26 Krock         maybe a mod wants to update those each time the mapblock loads after server shutdown
14:26 BillyS        One of them is a rail
14:27 Krock         try placing another node on its place
14:27 BillyS        And its always in the same place, so probably not an LBM
14:27 BillyS        I'll check tho
14:27 BillyS        m'kay
14:27 Krock         if that node disappears then it's a malfunctioning mod which digs nodes
14:27 Tenplus1      same place, meaning you can place nodes elsewhere and they save but this one area ?
14:28 BillyS        yes
14:30 BillyS        Its mainly on the rails ... I wonder if there is an issue with boost_carts or something
14:31 BillyS        Next time one disappears though Ill put something different and try
14:53 Krock         boost_cart does not place nodes
14:53 Krock         or dig
15:00 Krock         BillyS: 5 day diff of the map, changes are highlighted: https://i.imgur.com/osFp3WW.png
15:02 BillyS        Krock, kewl
15:02 BillyS        Howd ya do that?
15:02 BillyS        Well, what software?
15:02 Krock         GIMP aka Green Is My Pepper
15:02 Krock         and minetestmapper
15:03 BillyS        ah, cool
15:07 Krock         which reminds me of extending my colors.txt file
15:10 Tenplus1      Shara: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RWsU7DYaOI
15:12 Shara         >.>
15:12 BillyS        <.<
15:12 Tenplus1      caverealms_lite review :P
15:12 * Mr_Pardison clicks
15:12 Mr_Pardison   I think it's awesome but I'm curious to see what they think.
15:15 Shara         He mostly sounds confused and doesn't understand things :D
15:16 Mr_Pardison   yeah.
15:16 Shara         I don't know why he doesn't ask before filming so he could sound, well, informed.
15:16 Tenplus1      true
15:17 Tenplus1      ehehe
15:30 Tenplus1      wb Gael
15:37 Tenplus1      wb
15:37 Tenplus1      -.-
15:47 longerstaff13 lol
15:48 BillyS_       yay back
15:48 Tenplus1      o/
15:48 BillyS_       My server has a penality
15:48 BillyS_       highly loaded server: -7
15:48 BillyS_       How can I get rid of that?
15:49 Tenplus1      how'd it get a penalty ?
15:50 BillyS_       No idea
15:50 BillyS_       I just looked in the serverlist
15:50 BillyS_       Or rather used ruben's serverlist.py script
15:52 Krock         here's the checklist. look out for "-" https://github.com/minetest/master-server/blob/master/server.py#L319
15:55 Tenplus1      !server xanadu
15:55 MinetestBot   Tenplus1: Xanadu | 98.166.127.241 | Clients: 9/40, 2/12 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 109ms
16:20 IhrFussel     Known bug? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=328780#p328780
16:21 IhrFussel     And hi
16:21 Tenplus1      hi fussel
16:22 Krock         hi ihr
16:26 IhrFussel     The bug is "main menu clouds have kinda the color of the server sky"
16:27 IhrFussel     Which is red during that event
16:32 Tenplus1      hi Darc
16:32 Tenplus1      *ide
16:33 Tenplus1      lol
16:33 IhrFussel     I can confirm the bug
16:35 IhrFussel     I have no time to test in 5.0.0-dev though so if someone wants to: Change sky color to something unusual via set_sky() then join and leave to main menu
16:36 IhrFussel     See if cloud color matches sky color
16:36 IhrFussel     See if the main menu cloud color matches the SP world sky color*
16:38 paramat       yes known bug, normally clouds are darkened
16:42 IhrFussel     The clouds turn red when the server sky is red
16:42 paramat       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4727 please add your experience
16:43 IhrFussel     You can check the screenshots thread for an image
16:46 paramat       yes seen that
16:49 IhrFussel     It#s really that simple...join a server with unusual "plain" sky (not sure if it happens with custom textures) and leave again...no other steps
16:55 IhrFussel     Commented with exact set_sky() line from my code
16:56 IhrFussel     "EDIT: Since Blood Night only happens at night on my server, maybe it could depend on it being night time as well but not sure."
17:02 Tenplus1      wb gary
17:16 Tenplus1      hi andrey
17:16 Andrey01      hi
17:18 Andrey01      i`ve written a code if dig ore it will give you random amount of ingots, but however it can not be dug!
17:18 Tenplus1      use pastebin and show us code
17:18 Andrey01      do i need to post my code on gist?
17:18 Andrey01      i will post it on gist.github
17:19 Tenplus1      ok
17:19 Andrey01      https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/bd2d0651ca764a1923c98efe101fa60d
17:19 Tenplus1      checking...
17:20 Andrey01      the code is easy. but why can that ore not be dug?
17:21 Tenplus1      when you call on_dig you have to add items, add wear to tool and remove node yourself remember
17:22 Tenplus1      you could use  after_dig_node(pos, node, player) to add items and leave on_dig to do it's own thing
17:23 Andrey01      ok
17:24 Andrey01      now it is working. but i don`t get any items in creative mode
17:25 Andrey01      maybe does it work only i nsurvival one?
17:25 Andrey01      in*
17:25 Tenplus1      in creative mode any items added to inventory are only added once
17:25 Tenplus1      you can dig 100 dirt, but only 1 in inventory cause you can place that 1 dirt 100 times
17:26 Tenplus1      test in survival
17:27 Andrey01      ok, thanks
17:28 Andrey01      there is an error in my code that i can not find out why it is happening, may you help me?
17:28 Andrey01      i`ll post it on gist.github again
17:30 Tenplus1      k
17:31 Tenplus1      post new link when done
17:33 Andrey01      https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/b675bd69ac4069fe993a1c6008eb7aed
17:33 Andrey01      an error is happening on line 4
17:34 Andrey01      bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
17:34 ShadowBot     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
17:34 Tenplus1      andrey, what is the error ?
17:36 Andrey01      bad argument to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
17:36 Tenplus1      k, so the 'input' doesnt contain anything
17:36 Tenplus1      what's the next line in the error ?
17:37 Andrey01      do you need to see the error message entirely?
17:37 Tenplus1      it would help
17:38 Tenplus1      another line is calling misc.max_table_value() and sending it nothing instead of a table... you gotta backtrace the error from that
17:38 Andrey01      i`ve posted error there in same gist
17:39 Andrey01      but why is 'input' nil?
17:39 Andrey01      on line 32 it`s written: particles_time = {start = 0, end_ = misc.max_table_value(particles_spawners_def[2])},
17:40 Tenplus1      also line 119
17:41 Tenplus1      particles_spawners_def.time ??? what is this
17:41 Tenplus1      is it meant to be:   particlesspawner_def.time
17:42 Andrey01      it spawns immediately few particles_spawners
17:43 Andrey01      in arbitrary places
17:43 Andrey01      and by one function:misc.create_particle_spawner()
17:43 Tenplus1      I see that, seems line 119 is sending it a weird table that isnt defined
17:44 Tenplus1      that's why I asked if the variable: particles_spawners_def.time should really be: particlespawners_def.time
17:47 Andrey01      particlespawners_def.time doesn`t actually exist
17:49 Andrey01      it seems "particles_spawners_def.time" i need to replace to "particles_spawners_def[2]", because first varyable doesn`t exist
17:49 Tenplus1      are you posting the actual .lua file or a snippet of code... the line numbers dont seem to match up with error message
17:50 Andrey01      ok
17:50 Andrey01      i`ll upload all file
17:52 Andrey01      i`ll updated that gist, only the code is huge
17:52 Tenplus1      that's ok... need to see complete code for any errors that occur
17:53 Tenplus1      yeah, line 288 is the cause
17:53 Tenplus1      it's not sending a proper table to the max_table_value() function
17:53 Tenplus1      fix that and it'll work
17:53 Tenplus1      hi lisac
17:53 lisac         hey ten :)
17:53 lisac         11
17:54 Tenplus1      o//
17:58 Andrey01      no, 288 line doesn`t cause error, because particles_spawners_def[2] is true
17:59 Andrey01      when i replaced to that it was wroking fine
17:59 Tenplus1      in the error you showed me, line 173 errored which was called from line 288, meaning you sent a bogus table to the function
17:59 Tenplus1      wb Jordach
18:00 Andrey01      "time" field doesn`t exist, this has other index
18:02 Andrey01      https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/b675bd69ac4069fe993a1c6008eb7aed#file-misc-lua-L510
18:03 Andrey01      ^^ here you can make sure in it
18:04 Tenplus1      am just pointing out the line that's causing error, you hve to fix the table being passed
18:06 Tenplus1      you can have a quick fix by adding after line171 this:   input = input or {}
18:16 Tenplus1      hi ben
18:17 Jordach       beep
18:17 Tenplus1      wb
18:58 Tenplus1      wb ssieb
19:12 Tenplus1      o/
19:31 Tenplus1      hi aerozoic
19:31 Andrey01      here is syntax error that i can not understand why it causes: clicker:set_animation({x=1,y=1}, frame_speed=15, frame_blend=160.1)
19:32 aerozoic      wazup Tenplus1 !
19:32 Andrey01      ')' expected near '='
19:32 Andrey01      really is there any syntax error here???
19:33 sfan5         Andrey01: lua does not have named parameters
19:33 sfan5         not in the way you're trying to use them at least
19:34 Andrey01      well here it is written so:https://dev.minetest.net/Player
19:34 sfan5         still incorrect
19:35 aerozoic      Would migrating my 20GB map from sqlite to postgre show any benefits on an older computer?
19:36 Tenplus1      Andrey01: clicker:set_animation({x=1,y=1}, 15, 160.1)
19:36 sfan5         depends, what do you inted to improve by migrating?
19:38 aerozoic      sfan5, i've had issues with rollback when the rollback file gets large.
19:38 sfan5         rollback only supports sqlite
19:38 Tenplus1      easier to disable :P
19:38 aerozoic      oh, does that mean if i migrated the map, rollback wouldn't work? Or rollback would continue to be sqlite?
19:39 sfan5         latter
19:39 aerozoic      ok, i'm also trying to reduce bandwidth
19:40 sfan5         bandwidth to/from where??
19:40 aerozoic      Does the different map DB's effect bandwidth?
19:40 aerozoic      From the server to the client
19:40 sfan5         then the answer is no
19:40 aerozoic      thanks sfan5 :)
19:41 aerozoic      So migrating will give me no help.
19:41 aerozoic      Would it improve map chunks loading when running across the map?
19:42 aerozoic      Or is that mostly a bandwidth issue?
19:42 sfan5         hard to say
19:42 sfan5         your disk might be too slow, your network might be too slow, or minetest might just be incorrectly configured
19:42 sfan5         that assumes the problem does not lie on the client of course
19:43 aerozoic      I'm comparing my self-hosted server to the same server hosted on a hosting service.
19:43 aerozoic      So same client.
19:44 aerozoic      It's most likely the network. My upload is only 2Mb :(
19:45 Tenplus1      you on virgin media ?
19:45 aerozoic      comcast
19:45 Tenplus1      ekk
19:46 ssieb         tenplus1: my internet here is terrible, so I'll be randomly reconnecting... :-(
19:46 Tenplus1      everyone is having issues today, is ok... even mines was down earlier
19:47 aerozoic      Rollback is annoying me though. It becomes basically useless after a few weeks.
19:48 aerozoic      The server freezes for even a 60 second rollback. But if i delete the file, it's fine for another couple weeks.
19:48 Tenplus1      that's why I disble it and rely on protection, especially on a survival server
19:48 aerozoic      I mainly use it for myself when i start screwing around with WE, lol
19:49 Tenplus1      lol, gotta be careful :P
19:53 aerozoic      Ok question about compiling MT...
19:54 Tenplus1      I asked ubuntu/debian devs why minetest requires python2 as dependency when it's not used
19:54 aerozoic      If i git clone the tag 0.4.16 and then i want to update to 4.17, do i have to recompile or simply git fetch with the 0.4.17 tag?
19:54 Tenplus1      aerozoic: why not just download from stable
19:55 aerozoic      Welp, i compiled 4.16 a long time ago so that's already done. Now i just don't know if i have to recompile again after i update.
19:56 Tenplus1      dunno, I tend to download from stable and install ove rthe top of existing
19:57 aerozoic      Actually i think i should use git pull instead of fetch.
19:57 Tenplus1      :P
19:57 aerozoic      but idk about recompiling
20:16 Tenplus1      night all :))
21:14 ssieb         aerozoic: You're changing the source code, so yes, you have to recompile
21:16 aerozoic      thx ssieb, Do i have to delete anything or does the recompile correctly overwrite and remove anything obsolete?
21:17 ssieb         If the build system is good, then you should just have to recompile.  Otherwise, you can do a "make clean" or equivalent.
21:17 * ssieb       doesn't remember off-hand what minetest uses...