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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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tenplus1 |
hi longer |
08:48 |
longerstaff13 |
Hello 11 :P |
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tenplus1 |
added Turish Delight to Farming Redo :) also cornstarch... Ethereal seaweed can make agar and bonemeal bones can make gelatin |
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tenplus1 |
hi red |
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tenplus1 |
hi entuland |
10:46 |
entuland |
greetings |
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tenplus1 |
o/ |
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11:11 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven |
11:11 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten |
11:12 |
tenplus1 |
:P hows things |
11:13 |
Raven262 |
I managed to run wine with gallium nine, so I got native DX9 support here. |
11:13 |
Raven262 |
So nice. |
11:13 |
tenplus1 |
nice one :) |
11:14 |
tenplus1 |
wine is getting better with each release |
11:15 |
Raven262 |
I can now run Skyrim on linux, but I still need to adjust the game, performance gets a bit bad in closed spaces. |
11:15 |
tenplus1 |
what version of wine you running ? 3.01 ? |
11:15 |
Raven262 |
3.9-staging |
11:16 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, what desktop manager ? gnome/xfce/? |
11:16 |
Raven262 |
Mint's default, forgot which one was it |
11:16 |
Raven262 |
Recently installed mint lol |
11:16 |
tenplus1 |
cinnamon |
11:16 |
Raven262 |
Yeah that |
11:16 |
tenplus1 |
good desktop but a tad slow on gaming... |
11:17 |
Raven262 |
I remember killing plasma on kubuntu to get better performance. |
11:18 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, compositing needs a game-mode where it disabled everything to give better FPS |
11:19 |
tenplus1 |
that's why I used openbox/icewm :P less impact on gpu.cpu |
11:19 |
Raven262 |
Though, I doubt that I can get better FPS in Skyrim just with a lighter DE. |
11:19 |
tenplus1 |
and surprisingly running "American McGee's Alice" gives me far bette FPS on wine than it does on windows itself |
11:19 |
Raven262 |
Ah, i had this in WoW |
11:20 |
Raven262 |
Runs much better in linux's GL mode than in Windows' DX |
11:20 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
11:20 |
Raven262 |
That is, runs overall better on linux. |
11:21 |
Fuchs |
Plasma should not impact your game performance, especially as it can turn off compositing if you run games (i.e. Starbound does this properly, Minetest might not) |
11:21 |
tenplus1 |
sadly my wee net-top pc isnt powerful enough to run "Alice: Madness Returns" over 10fps |
11:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi Fuchs |
11:21 |
Fuchs |
hello :) |
11:21 |
Raven262 |
Hi Fuchs |
11:21 |
Raven262 |
Yeah, but I eventually switched to mint. The kde was slow. |
11:21 |
tenplus1 |
most newer titles can detect and inform desktop that it needs to run without compositing |
11:25 |
tenplus1 |
e.g. in this test the MATE desktop runs Dota 2 at 100fps, vs CInnamon at 40fps |
11:27 |
Raven262 |
Wait, wait, my dota runs on 40 fps on cinnamon |
11:28 |
tenplus1 |
try disabling compositing and running it again and see what it gives you |
11:29 |
Raven262 |
I'll install mate and try it. |
11:30 |
Raven262 |
It seems to be a better option |
11:30 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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11:31 |
tenplus1 |
o/ fixer |
11:31 |
Raven262 |
mate sure takes a long time to install |
11:32 |
tenplus1 |
depends if you are installing the dm itself or the meta with everything included |
11:32 |
Raven262 |
only like 70 packages |
11:32 |
Raven262 |
:P |
11:32 |
* tenplus1 |
uses IceWM :))) |
11:33 |
Raven262 |
That looks old. |
11:33 |
tenplus1 |
can be themed to look like any os |
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11:37 |
tenplus1 |
wb dude |
11:37 |
Raven262 |
thx |
11:38 |
Raven262 |
Okay, so i leave the channel when I logout. |
11:38 |
tenplus1 |
yep :) you in MATE now ? |
11:38 |
Raven262 |
I never used the log out option. |
11:38 |
Raven262 |
Yes |
11:38 |
tenplus1 |
you can make it faster if you go into system settings -> effects and turn them off |
11:41 |
Raven262 |
Can't find system settings |
11:41 |
tenplus1 |
no worries :P |
11:41 |
Raven262 |
Wow, I can't find effects anywhere |
11:42 |
tenplus1 |
maybe it was an optional package |
11:44 |
Raven262 |
Well, I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. From ~40 to 58-60 FPS stable in Dota2 demo mode. |
11:44 |
tenplus1 |
a window manager can make the difference when it comes to gaming :) |
11:45 |
Raven262 |
Yeah |
11:46 |
tenplus1 |
this is what my desky lookslike: https://cn.pling.com/img//hive/content-pre1/151167-1.jpg |
11:47 |
Raven262 |
That res lol |
11:47 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, IceWM and dark theme for toolbar/menu's... simple but my whole desky is only 140mb |
11:47 |
Raven262 |
so thats what a 1920x1200 looks like |
11:48 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
11:49 |
Raven262 |
Well, I am on a lower resolution here, and it seems many games have support for widescreen and not for 5:4 |
11:49 |
tenplus1 |
aww, they want everyone on 16:9 I think |
11:49 |
Raven262 |
Yeah |
11:49 |
rdococ |
16:10 is underrated |
11:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
11:50 |
tenplus1 |
how about 32:9 ... samsung has an ultrawide gaming monitor :D |
11:50 |
tenplus1 |
http://static4.uk.businessinsider.com/image/593ab389da6dde481c4563d0-1200/behold-the-49-inch-chg90-super-ultrawide-gaming-monitor-from-samsung-samsungs-marketing-photo-simply-doesnt-do-justice-to-the-chg90s-incredible-super-ultra-width-so-here-it-is-displaying-an-excel-spreadsheet-to-help-put-it-into-perspective.jpg |
11:50 |
tenplus1 |
ooh sorry, didnt think link was gonna be that huge |
11:50 |
rdococ |
O_O |
11:51 |
Fixer |
rdococ: it is not, manufactures just does not want to push it, since it is superior format, they sell it as PRO instead |
11:51 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: nice for playing some strategy games |
11:51 |
Fixer |
but looks ridiculous |
11:52 |
tenplus1 |
very true... will stick with HD res |
11:52 |
Fixer |
I wish notebooks had at least 16:10 |
11:53 |
tenplus1 |
my notebook is 1366x768 half HD... looks good |
11:53 |
Fixer |
4:3 notebooks screens were huuuge compared to 1366*768 15" shit they sell |
11:53 |
Fixer |
in terms of physical sizes |
11:54 |
Fixer |
it was less portable though |
11:54 |
Fixer |
but more enjoyable to read |
11:54 |
Fixer |
no need to scrool much |
11:54 |
Fixer |
also dipshits from microsoft ofc pushed ribbon on those poor 16:9 craptop users so you just scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll like an idiot |
11:55 |
tenplus1 |
yup... so much vertical space wasted with that ribbon crap |
11:56 |
Fixer |
then you also end up with that hiding everything into ||| ass because nothing fits into that 16:9 crap |
11:56 |
tenplus1 |
winblows has lost their way in Os design and interface usage, they messed up big |
11:57 |
Fixer |
it lost long ago since XP pretty much |
11:57 |
tenplus1 |
tbh xp was the best windows I had used... was simple and just worked... |
11:57 |
Fixer |
when they started pushing it to housewife (tm) format |
11:57 |
tenplus1 |
could patch it well to do many things |
11:58 |
Fixer |
xp is good if you are a poweruser |
11:59 |
tenplus1 |
now it seems the w10 Os requires a decent spec pc to simply run, let alone run your apps |
12:00 |
Fixer |
running everything past XP on 10 year old stuff is nightmare |
12:01 |
tenplus1 |
yet I have an ancient Compaq M2000 (is 18 years old now) that can quite happily run Lubuntu 18.04 with LXDE |
12:05 |
Fixer |
try running Win7/10 on 10 years old lenovo craptop, just nightmare, xp will run just fine on it though |
12:21 |
tenplus1 |
Q. What if farming required clean water to grow crops and sea water needed to be filtered before use ? |
12:26 |
Fixer |
that will be way too much hardcore? |
12:27 |
tenplus1 |
probably... would be fun though :) |
12:27 |
tenplus1 |
might look into making it an optional setting, supply a charcoal filter or something |
12:30 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: more interesting part is using weather for crop growth |
12:30 |
Fixer |
yet particle rendering is not fixed |
12:30 |
tenplus1 |
definitely, do we haev a weather mod that doesng lag servers ? |
12:32 |
Fixer |
no idea |
12:33 |
Fixer |
technicly not all water in minetest is sea water |
12:33 |
tenplus1 |
we have river water that could be used for farming since it's clean... |
12:33 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: actually one way is to spawn lakes with river water and then use it for farming |
12:33 |
tenplus1 |
sea water (default) contains salt so irl wouldnt grow anything |
12:33 |
Fixer |
yes |
12:33 |
Fixer |
but river water is good for farming |
12:34 |
Fixer |
but not mapgens have it |
12:34 |
tenplus1 |
kinda wish v7 maps had lakes/rivers in them now |
12:34 |
Fixer |
v7 has rivers... |
12:34 |
tenplus1 |
that's why a filter of sorts would help de-salinate sea water into river water :D |
12:46 |
celeron55 |
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180525/10072939912/forget-gdpr-eus-new-copyright-proposal-will-be-complete-utter-disaster-internet.shtml |
12:47 |
celeron55 |
https://saveyourinternet.eu/ |
12:47 |
celeron55 |
this seems kind of important |
12:47 |
tenplus1 |
hi celeron, checking |
12:47 |
celeron55 |
an EU wide filter for all uploads, for... "copyright reasons" |
12:48 |
tenplus1 |
gawd, more annoying eu stuffs |
12:48 |
celeron55 |
clearly a wholly good idea |
12:50 |
rubenwardy |
that second website is stupid |
12:50 |
rubenwardy |
give me a list of emails, I'm not putting mine or my phone number into there |
12:52 |
celeron55 |
as if the premise of an interent wide copyright scanner by law for huge copyright owners wasn't a bad enough idea, nobody will use this for political purposes of course |
12:52 |
celeron55 |
everyone knows how nice for example youtube's system is |
12:52 |
rubenwardy |
looks like it passes the implementation of the filter onto each site to scan for content |
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12:52 |
celeron55 |
small sites can't afford that |
12:52 |
tenplus1 |
wb raven |
12:53 |
rubenwardy |
however practically there will be central services to do it for the smaller sites |
12:53 |
celeron55 |
like me |
12:53 |
Raven262 |
thx ten |
12:53 |
rubenwardy |
which isn't great |
12:53 |
celeron55 |
that's just a huge waste of effort, passing this would be very stupid |
12:53 |
celeron55 |
big artists and movies aren't this important |
12:56 |
rubenwardy |
definitely not |
12:56 |
sfan5 |
why is techdirt writing an article about this now |
12:56 |
rubenwardy |
well, re: the small site thing |
12:56 |
sfan5 |
this has been known for months |
12:56 |
celeron55 |
i heard of this only now, the media is really irresponsible for not reporting on this |
12:57 |
rubenwardy |
if robot may finally gets her wish and bans encryption, then there's not need for each site to implement their own filter |
12:57 |
rubenwardy |
fuck porn ID |
12:58 |
tenplus1 |
o.O ? |
12:58 |
celeron55 |
some uk thing? |
12:58 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40630582 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43370999 |
12:59 |
rubenwardy |
basically porn sites need to verify their users identity to verify their age |
12:59 |
rubenwardy |
stupid nanny state |
12:59 |
tenplus1 |
pfft, there's gonna be a hundred different ways to curcumvent that |
12:59 |
tenplus1 |
they had the chance to register and use .xxx domain names years ago, and if they had done that they could easily block for kids and allow adults to get through |
13:00 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, exactly |
13:00 |
rubenwardy |
it's better to do this as an opt-in at the ISP level |
13:00 |
celeron55 |
turning every citizen into a criminal is an easy totalitarian tactic |
13:00 |
rubenwardy |
even easier if you require .xxx |
13:00 |
tenplus1 |
if they just stop everyone gaining access there's gonna be hell to pay |
13:00 |
rubenwardy |
well, it's a law on service providers |
13:00 |
celeron55 |
then you can just jail anyone that you don't like |
13:00 |
celeron55 |
because they've done something illegal anyway |
13:01 |
sfan5 |
celeron55: github made a fuss about this a few months ago https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/85d5ay/developer_nightmare_eu_wants_to_filter_all_code/ |
13:01 |
rubenwardy |
our government is retarded and no one really cares |
13:01 |
tenplus1 |
the eu sucks for all this nanny crap |
13:02 |
celeron55 |
sfan5: oh actually, i think i did see it back then |
13:02 |
celeron55 |
apparently it hasn't gone anywhere |
13:02 |
sfan5 |
september last year, mentions the filters https://juliareda.eu/2017/09/when-filters-fail/ |
13:03 |
celeron55 |
that's a nice write-up |
13:07 |
celeron55 |
this seems to advance to a point where nobody has any energy to go against it |
13:14 |
celeron55 |
it's just mind boggling how everyone thinks something is bad and still a law is made out of it |
13:14 |
tenplus1 |
they always seem to make something out of nothing |
13:15 |
celeron55 |
let's make a law mandating that everyone has to stab themselves with a knife every morning |
13:16 |
celeron55 |
good idea? well, why'd that matter, just needs a lobbyist with a lot of money |
13:17 |
celeron55 |
maybe a knife manufacturer who could also act as the certification agency of knifes |
13:19 |
celeron55 |
the only problem with that idea really is that corporations with even more money (insurance ones) would be against it |
13:21 |
celeron55 |
drug companies would be pleased (more sick people), but they need to maintain a positive image so they can't help the knife company |
13:24 |
longerstaff13 |
heh, 2 1600x900 screens; one on my laptop and one external, looks awesome right? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SlT4icce/Screenshot_20180531_142205.png |
13:24 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
13:26 |
longerstaff13 |
an yeah, I am using the newest Kubuntu |
13:26 |
longerstaff13 |
and* |
13:26 |
longerstaff13 |
18.04 :P |
13:26 |
tenplus1 |
w00t! |
13:27 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
13:28 |
celeron55 |
actually playing that way must be painful |
13:28 |
longerstaff13 |
yeah |
13:28 |
longerstaff13 |
it's not very comfortable on the eyes XD |
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13:33 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
13:33 |
Krock |
oh nice. still faster even when typing with one hand |
13:34 |
* longerstaff13 |
wishes he could be accurate on the keys even with 2 hands :P |
13:35 |
tenplus1 |
hi krock |
13:36 |
Krock |
longerstaff13, lol |
13:36 |
tenplus1 |
trawling through the eu guff for the year... it's annoying |
13:36 |
Krock |
longerstaff13, bad timing is actually more annoying when one hand types faster than the other |
13:36 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
13:37 |
xerox123_ |
Hello |
13:37 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ |
13:37 |
Krock |
hi xerox123_ |
13:37 |
xerox123_ |
tenplus1: I went back to dual booting :D |
13:37 |
tenplus1 |
hi xeroc |
13:37 |
xerox123_ |
Hello |
13:38 |
tenplus1 |
win7 or 10 ? |
13:41 |
xerox123_ |
Win10 + xubuntu 18.04 |
13:51 |
tenplus1 |
ah kewl, does it work ok ? :) |
13:52 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
13:54 |
rdococ |
Windows 10 spywareâ„¢ |
13:54 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder* |
13:54 |
rdococ |
Microsoft knows what xerox123 watches in his free timeâ„¢ |
14:10 |
* tenplus1 |
wonders if the almighty google knows he watches Spongebob |
14:11 |
tenplus1 |
damn, I gotta go buy real turkish delight now... been craving it since adding to farming... pah! brb |
14:43 |
rdococ |
turkish delight doesn't taste as good as I thought it would |
14:43 |
tenplus1 |
depends where you get them... the one's from dubai are very nice :D |
15:05 |
BillyS |
The proof . . . by XKCD! : https://xkcd.com/1980/ |
15:05 |
tenplus1 |
lololol |
15:06 |
tenplus1 |
hi billy |
15:06 |
tenplus1 |
the winter queen cant cook |
15:06 |
BillyS |
Ah, that explains it. :P |
15:06 |
BillyS |
ANf hi |
15:06 |
BillyS |
*And |
15:06 |
BillyS |
I edited the IRC mod today to support two networks |
15:07 |
BillyS |
It's complicated |
15:07 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
15:07 |
BillyS |
Although, all I really did was copy it into another mod, and edit them both to work nicely with each other |
15:07 |
tenplus1 |
:P what networks |
15:07 |
BillyS |
freenode and xeroxIRC |
15:08 |
tenplus1 |
kewl :) |
15:11 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: how's this? https://upload.totallynotashadyweb.site/f.php?h=1A-RzHtP&p=1 |
15:11 |
Krock |
looks shady |
15:11 |
Krock |
but better |
15:12 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
15:12 |
benrob0329 |
hi tenplus1 |
15:12 |
tenplus1 |
looks like a brick |
15:13 |
Krock |
> having a subdomain for uploads but using index.php is not possible |
15:13 |
Krock |
an ignitable brick |
15:14 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: its a different server |
15:15 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: a rounded brick though |
15:15 |
tenplus1 |
fancy garden brick :D |
15:15 |
benrob0329 |
but what d'ya know, my knowledge of 3D shading from my years of dinking around in blender came in handy |
15:16 |
BillyS |
I've spent years messing with blender, and it STILL doesnt do what I want it to . . . |
15:16 |
benrob0329 |
because I know how a cylinder looks :P |
15:16 |
benrob0329 |
BillyS: yeah, that can happen |
15:18 |
Krock |
BillyS, maybe blender messes with you and you don't do what it wants |
15:18 |
BillyS |
xD |
15:18 |
Krock |
perspectives. |
15:18 |
benrob0329 |
The Blenders will take over the Earth one of these days |
15:19 |
benrob0329 |
you thought it was going to be those humanoid androids in say, Detroit: Becoming Human? nah man, its the blenders |
15:23 |
BillyS |
xD |
15:24 |
benrob0329 |
I wonder if I could x11 forward my entire KDE session from my desktop |
15:24 |
benrob0329 |
VNC is really slow |
15:25 |
BillyS |
yep |
15:25 |
BillyS |
I found RealVNC was decent, but then they kicked me out because I wasn't old enough |
15:38 |
entuland |
should have called yourself "BillSr" |
15:47 |
BillyS |
heh |
15:47 |
Krock |
why not SillyB |
15:47 |
BillyS |
I want to make default:chest's regard protection. Can I just do minetest.registered_nodes["default:chest"].allow_inventory_put = blah blah blah |
15:48 |
BillyS |
Krock: Because I've chansed down and murdered everyone who calls me that. :P |
15:48 |
tenplus1 |
nope... |
15:48 |
BillyS |
*chased |
15:48 |
BillyS |
Rats |
15:48 |
Krock |
yes. |
15:48 |
BillyS |
You can? |
15:48 |
tenplus1 |
minetest.override_item("default:chest", {allow_inventory = blah}) |
15:48 |
Krock |
tenplus1, that's the same |
15:48 |
BillyS |
That works too |
15:48 |
Krock |
Minetest doesn't care about that |
15:49 |
BillyS |
But the minetest devs might. :P |
15:49 |
tenplus1 |
use override feature |
15:51 |
BillyS |
tenplus1: Is there such a thing as "allow_inventory", that allows/disallows transfer both ways? |
15:52 |
tenplus1 |
this may help: https://github.com/tenplus1/protector/blob/master/doors_chest.lua#L484 |
15:52 |
BillyS |
kk |
15:53 |
BillyS |
Does can_dig need to be added like that? |
15:53 |
BillyS |
After all, if the chest is in a protected area, no one not added to the protection can dig it anyways |
15:53 |
tenplus1 |
that's the protected chest that comes with protection redo, it acts like normal chest but goes by protection |
15:54 |
BillyS |
Ah |
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16:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
16:36 |
IhrFussel |
Hello there^^ |
16:40 |
Krock |
hi IhrFussel |
16:40 |
Krock |
so.. server still in maintenance? |
16:48 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, it worked for a few hours and now it's down again! But I was quick enough and managed to change my tariff |
16:48 |
Krock |
lol nice timing then |
16:53 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, I see that you removed the protection checks in the newer farming versions... does farming rely on some kind of builtin check for that now? |
16:53 |
tenplus1 |
?? protection checks ?? |
16:53 |
ShadowBot |
To mark your land for protection, move to one corner, dig down into the ground, and do: /area_pos1 Then move to the other corner, build up into the sky, and do: /area_pos2 Then to actually claim it, do: /protect <some description here> For more details, see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8364 (Look under Land Ownership ). |
16:54 |
IhrFussel |
Check if the position is protected... you had that included in the old farming versions |
16:54 |
tenplus1 |
hoe's, hoebombs will check for protection |
16:54 |
tenplus1 |
what other checks were there ? |
16:54 |
IhrFussel |
There was one for beanpoles and trellis for example |
16:56 |
tenplus1 |
free beanpole/trellis for whoever owns the land :D |
16:56 |
tenplus1 |
but I'll look into it |
16:58 |
tenplus1 |
those 2 items still have protection checks inside |
16:58 |
xerox123 |
tenplus1: if Ive used your textures in a banner mod how do I correctly acknowledge they're yours? |
16:59 |
tenplus1 |
license.txt file or a mention in the code itself |
16:59 |
xerox123 |
http://i.imgur.com/ymaL9pJ.png |
16:59 |
tenplus1 |
? which texture have you used ? |
17:00 |
xerox123 |
baked_clay_dark_green.png and others |
17:00 |
tenplus1 |
ohh, lol... those are cc0 anyhoo |
17:00 |
xerox123 |
cc0? |
17:00 |
tenplus1 |
free to use, just gimmie mention :D |
17:00 |
Krock |
?? commands ?? |
17:00 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: commands takes no arguments |
17:01 |
xerox123 |
ok |
17:01 |
xerox123 |
wait. or I can just add bakedclay to depends.txt right? |
17:01 |
tenplus1 |
if it's just the textures you can use those in your mod, if bakedclay isnt installed then you'll need them anyhow |
17:02 |
xerox123 |
ok, it's a fork of display_modpack anyways |
17:03 |
xerox123 |
I tried to implement punching with dyes to change the colour, but couldn't figure that out |
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17:10 |
tenplus1 |
hi twoelk |
17:10 |
twoelk |
o/ |
17:13 |
tenplus1 |
added additional protection checks fussel (beans, grapes, cocoa pods) |
17:22 |
Fixer |
https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4833 o_O |
17:23 |
sfan5 |
oh that still exists |
17:23 |
Krock |
ancient |
17:23 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
17:29 |
twoelk |
hey tenplus1 you seem to be working hard at keeping my attempt at making a wiki page for farming redo out of date :D |
17:30 |
tenplus1 |
lol twoelk, sorry dude :) I only added a few items today, honest :P |
17:31 |
twoelk |
now I got to playtest instead of writing on the wiki :-) |
17:31 |
twoelk |
so little time so much to play, er test |
17:32 |
tenplus1 |
:P cornstarch and turkish delight were the only additions really, the other 2 (agar and gelatin) are in ethereal and bonemeal to complete recipe |
17:33 |
twoelk |
hm, wonder how this google docs thingy works ... |
17:33 |
tenplus1 |
click link and .. OMG! they've taken over everything... |
17:34 |
twoelk |
hm, got no google account, any known alternativs? |
17:35 |
tenplus1 |
libreoffice is pretty good |
17:37 |
Krock |
proprietary Office365 |
17:37 |
twoelk |
they got an live online version? I have been using openoffice since it was staroffice |
17:38 |
Krock |
yes, was recently added to the version 6.0 |
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17:41 |
tenplus1 |
hi sniper |
17:41 |
twoelk |
so in case somebody might be wondering what the farming-redo table on the wiki might be heading at https://i.imgur.com/MjBtICw.png |
17:42 |
tenplus1 |
detailed :P |
17:42 |
sniper338 |
yo tenplus1! ಠ‿↼ |
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17:45 |
twoelk |
I don't quite understand the jumps in the scale column though |
17:46 |
tenplus1 |
things like corn start growing as normal with 16px textures, but once they hit 2 nodes high (using 1 node) the scale will jump up as well for the 32px textures used |
17:48 |
twoelk |
hm and that's why we have 0.006 and 0.06 values? note the change is factor of ten |
17:49 |
tenplus1 |
oh you mean scale as in mapgen decoration |
17:49 |
tenplus1 |
thought u meant node size :P |
17:49 |
twoelk |
yeah, node size is not included in the table |
17:50 |
tenplus1 |
scale went from 0.06 to 0.0006 so that crops dont overrun biomes... |
17:50 |
tenplus1 |
I've made them appear just enough for players to collect and farm them :) |
17:52 |
twoelk |
anyways looking up stuff for the table helped me understand why I sometimes didn't find plants like peas or grapes - the areas I searched simply lacked higher terrain |
17:53 |
twoelk |
now that I know I think that pretty neat |
17:53 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, I tried to have certain crops grow in the higher/lower/hotter/colder regions they were from |
18:06 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: Calligra Office is pretty cool too |
18:06 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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18:13 |
Mr_Pardison |
\o |
18:13 |
tenplus1 |
hi mister |
18:14 |
tenplus1 |
Itemframes updated - has on_burn for itemframe, tweak code slightly |
18:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
oh yay now I can pillage and burn almost the entire village :P |
18:15 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
18:16 |
tenplus1 |
pedestals wont burn but itemframes will drop item inside if they do |
18:18 |
tenplus1 |
also has mvps support so that mesecons pusher/mover cannot move either pedestal or itemframe |
18:24 |
rdococ |
Office: Proprietary 365â„¢ |
18:26 |
Mr_Pardison |
yup |
18:27 |
Krock |
hi Mr_Pardison |
18:27 |
rdococ |
Discord, or ProprietaryIRCRipoffâ„¢ |
18:27 |
Mr_Pardison |
greetings, duck. |
18:28 |
rdococ |
Release the duck swarm. |
18:28 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: release the tardis! |
18:28 |
rdococ |
No! The TARDIS is mine! |
18:29 |
benrob0329 |
tbh I need to finish that mod at some point |
18:29 |
benrob0329 |
but I haven't had much of any extra time lately |
18:29 |
tenplus1 |
mega-duck has been released on the world: https://static.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1237/2012-09-16_184900_3608169.jpg |
18:29 |
Krock |
oh god. run away as long you can |
18:30 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
18:30 |
Mr_Pardison |
or just get a giant flamethrower and cook the duck. |
18:30 |
Krock |
heh.. six years old |
18:30 |
Mr_Pardison |
might be a bit crispy. |
18:32 |
rdococ |
Word of the day: you'e |
18:32 |
Krock |
you'en't |
18:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
18:32 |
tenplus1 |
google can't even |
18:35 |
rdococ |
"you what?" -> "y'wat?" |
18:41 |
tenplus1 |
y'tho? |
18:42 |
rdococ |
"y tho?" is short for "why though", you wouldn't say "y'tho" as that'd be "you tho" |
18:43 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
18:52 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, so was, without the added checks, basically anyone allowed to place beanpoles/trellis at every position no matter if protected or not? Or was that handled in a different way? |
18:53 |
tenplus1 |
the checks were already there before, the new checks stop players placing beans/grapes/cocoa beans in their pole/trellis/jungletrunk |
18:56 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, I didn't see a minetest.is_protected() check though...is it handled in on_place()? |
18:56 |
* twoelk |
imagines growing coca off his junglewood chest |
18:56 |
twoelk |
*cocoa |
18:56 |
tenplus1 |
the crop on_place, beanpole_on_place and trellis_on_place already had checks for the item itself, I added for the crops going into them |
18:58 |
tenplus1 |
I didnt mind so much players putting beans or grapes into a protected pole.trellis, was their loss ine end :P |
18:59 |
IhrFussel |
Ah I see now...the actual beanpole/trelli definition is down below |
18:59 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
19:00 |
IhrFussel |
Is the placing/digging of farming items logged? |
19:01 |
tenplus1 |
no, does it need to be ? |
19:01 |
IhrFussel |
That can be useful to see which player griefed a certain farm or stole fruit from it |
19:01 |
tenplus1 |
digging crops is alraedy logged by engine |
19:01 |
tenplus1 |
placing crops isnt too important I woulda thought... is only crops ?!?! |
19:02 |
twoelk |
hm rogue farmers |
19:02 |
tenplus1 |
imma gonna grief your fertile farmland with rhubarb!!! |
19:03 |
IhrFussel |
I personally think that any item placed/dug should be logged since that's what the log is for |
19:03 |
twoelk |
actually if I had a farmer npc would that be covered by farming redo to not cause havoc? |
19:03 |
IhrFussel |
Sometimes I need to check a certain log entry for something that got destroyed and get mad when it's not logged |
19:04 |
tenplus1 |
like I said, digging items are logged already by game, placing crops isnt logged but I could add at some point, not important just now |
19:04 |
IhrFussel |
The worst is chests that don't log actions |
19:05 |
twoelk |
to many logging events cause lag sooner or later |
19:05 |
twoelk |
*too |
19:05 |
IhrFussel |
Every item with a custom on_place() function will not get logged AFAIK |
19:05 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, I have logs disabled |
19:06 |
IhrFussel |
Logs shouldn't cause lag...maybe on older HDDs they do |
19:06 |
IhrFussel |
That's a few bytes at once to write |
19:07 |
twoelk |
maybe there should be an option that if a log-file reaches a certain size it is closed and a new one started |
19:07 |
twoelk |
opening and closing huge files is often a problem |
19:08 |
tenplus1 |
xanadu has reset logs, copies terminal output to date-time.log and then starts a new one each time it's reset |
19:08 |
tenplus1 |
but only to check crashes or issue and then it's deleted |
19:09 |
Mr_Pardison |
smart. |
19:09 |
IhrFussel |
My debug.txt is 2.8 GB |
19:09 |
tenplus1 |
ouch!!! |
19:09 |
Krock |
rm -rf /* |
19:09 |
Krock |
s/\/\*/debug.txt/ |
19:09 |
tenplus1 |
I also disable recovery and cheating to keep things quick |
19:09 |
IhrFussel |
First line is from Jan 4 |
19:11 |
* twoelk |
glances at the clock and realizes he needs to get on the road |
19:11 |
twoelk |
have fun |
19:11 |
tenplus1 |
cya |
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19:13 |
IhrFussel |
Before Jan 4 I did sometimes echo $(tail -n 3000000 debug.txt)" > debug.txt |
19:14 |
IhrFussel |
Wow, 31 MILLION lines |
19:14 |
tenplus1 |
damn |
19:15 |
IhrFussel |
I think I will run that command now maybe it helps with lag |
19:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
should. |
19:16 |
sfan5 |
that's a very ineffcient way of truncting debug.txt |
19:16 |
tenplus1 |
why do you keep the logs ? |
19:16 |
tenplus1 |
dont you have admin to assist in unruly players ? |
19:16 |
IhrFussel |
From 3 GB down to 250 MB |
19:17 |
Krock |
meanwhile my debug.txt file is 205 kB |
19:18 |
tenplus1 |
there must be a way to limit what's output to logs, or at least tidy it up enough to shrink it down |
19:19 |
sniper338 |
--quiet? |
19:20 |
Krock |
log level to "none" 8) |
19:20 |
tenplus1 |
I mean output in general, what it displays... is there any way to shrink that part down when it's logging |
19:21 |
tenplus1 |
e.g. "2018-05-31 20:19:45: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer places node default:sand at (-1,9,19)" |
19:21 |
IhrFussel |
Those lines are essential when you are a coorperative admin and agree to search for a griefer |
19:31 |
rdococ |
A'do like to say yÇy |
19:31 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
19:32 |
rdococ |
The upside down Ç |
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19:34 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: Adecided to remove the apostrophe. |
19:35 |
tenplus1 |
and made a whole new word in the process :P |
19:36 |
rdococ |
Awill say yay. Only problem might be if y'wanted to say something like "I am a yay", which becomes "Aam a yay"... might change that to "'am a yay" |
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19:50 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
20:24 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o/ |
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20:41 |
xerox123 |
never seen an error like this before: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XD5DvTkYY4/ |
20:45 |
xerox123 |
any help would be great :D |
20:48 |
rdococ |
Yay! |
20:53 |
xerox123 |
fixed that :D |
21:01 |
rdococ |
The yays get stronger with every fix |
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22:01 |
paramat |
hi Raven262 , too much off topic OS talk here today, see channel rules :) please take long off topic to #minetest-chat |
22:03 |
paramat |
!tell tenplus1 , too much off topic OS talk here today :) please use #minetest-chat |
22:03 |
MinetestBot |
paramat: I'll pass that on when tenplus1 is around |
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22:12 |
xerox123 |
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kk2MyfYWqX/ I can't get the recipe to work at all (see bottom) |
22:22 |
BakerPrime |
Hmm. :/ |
22:23 |
xerox123 |
I want it so any colour large sign can be mixed with any dye to make the dye's colour sign |
22:39 |
Raven262 |
The problem is, no one talks in minetest-chat, paramat! Just kidding, sorry for offtopic talk, but I never meant it to be that lengthy. |
22:43 |
paramat |
:) |
22:43 |
xerox123 |
can someone help me? :P |
22:54 |
rud0lf |
bannercolor in pairs(bannercolor) ? |
22:54 |
rud0lf |
looks like overlap to me |