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00:10 Fixer i get different results
00:11 Fixer mt may be faster in some aspects, but in heavy scenes it just suuuuuuucks
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01:18 Mr_Pardison 'ello Jordach
01:18 Jordach beep
01:18 Jordach i am now 22
01:18 Sokomine congratulations :-)
01:19 Jordach pff
01:19 Mr_Pardison twice tenplus1 :P
01:19 * Sokomine wants some of jordachs cake
01:19 Jordach best i have is a choc bar
01:20 Mr_Pardison and I was about to say "and what if they don't have cake?"
01:20 Sokomine doesn't sound too promising. but then...most mt food isn't too exciting either :-) could be worse after all...
01:20 Sokomine simple: he's required of providing cake :-)
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01:39 * Jordach meows at EvergreenTree
01:44 Mr_Pardison g2g cya
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07:38 tenplus1 hi folks
07:46 lumberJ hello tenplus1
07:47 tenplus1 hi lumberJ :P
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08:17 tenplus1 hi red
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08:23 tenplus1 wb
08:27 lumberJ thanks
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08:36 tenplus1 hey Jordach
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09:36 tenplus1 hi CWz
09:36 CWz Ello
09:36 tenplus1 :P
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09:43 tenplus1 hi red
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10:23 tenplus1 hi nerzhul
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11:10 tenplus1 o/
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12:37 tenplus1 hi mister
12:37 tenplus1 Farming Redo updated to 1.36 - Added Beetroot and Beetroot Soup
12:37 Mr_Pardison hai
12:38 * Mr_Pardison takes some rhubarb and strawberry and makes a compote from it
12:38 tenplus1 yumm
12:38 tenplus1 textures are a tad iffy, wasnt in the mood for gimp today it seems :D
12:39 Mr_Pardison well, those can always be updated later.
12:39 tenplus1 yeah... will add lettuce when I can be assed :P
12:39 tenplus1 then we can make BLT sammiches
12:39 Mr_Pardison where the B stands for bunny? :P
12:39 tenplus1 lol, we have hogs remember :) bacon for the wins
12:40 Mr_Pardison ik but it's a use for them.
12:40 tenplus1 true :) need a few rabbit food items
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13:21 tenplus1 o/ aerozoic, DI3HARD139, sniper338
13:22 DI3HARD139 Hello tenplus1
13:22 aerozoic wazup tenplus1
13:23 tenplus1 on Xanadu hosting Lucky Blocks :)
13:23 sniper338 tenplus1 \o
13:24 Mr-Pardison aw.
13:24 Mr-Pardison to bad I have to take care of a thing on DL.
13:24 Mr-Pardison *too
13:25 tenplus1 ehehe
13:25 tenplus1 gonna update later tonight hopefully and add new farming items and mod fixes
13:27 aerozoic cool
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13:50 tenplus1 wb CWz
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14:03 * Jordach is now tenplus1tenplus1
14:06 Mr-Pardison XD
14:07 tenplus1 wb 1111
14:07 tenplus1 :P
14:10 Jordach kek
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14:38 tenplus1 o/
14:58 rdococ Helloyays
14:59 rdococ I have been learning about ergative-absolutive alignment in my spare time
14:59 Mr-Pardison and I've been writing a paper on string theory.
15:00 rdococ huh, my sarcasmometer won't turn on
15:01 rdococ suddenly I'm not sure if that's sarcasm even though I know it should... might be
15:01 Mr-Pardison no I have been.
15:01 rdococ weird, will find someone that will do repairs on my sarcasmometer
15:01 Mr-Pardison as an assignment for a class.
15:01 rdococ can you learn about sarcasmometers so you can fix mine? :P
15:01 Mr-Pardison rdococ: hit it with a hammer (or a pipe wrench, either will do).
15:02 rdococ Mr-Pardison: ah, thank you
15:03 * rdococ hits his sarcasmometer with a hammer, and it sparks before turning into a mutatometer that measures sudden metamorphosis of scientific instruments into other scientific instruments (e.g. sarcasmometer -> mutatometer)
15:04 * rdococ hits it again, and it becomes a physics-breaking battery with infinite lifespan
15:04 * rdococ uses it to generate infinite power
15:09 * Jordach is enjoying the salt over from DiamondKnight trying to push closed source mods onto MT
15:10 Mr-Pardison link?
15:10 * Mr-Pardison would also like to see this foolishness
15:11 rdococ how would you even hide the source?
15:11 rdococ Lua is basically interpreted (well, it could be compiled into .luac intermediate bytecode I guess)
15:12 rdococ which would mean that you need the lua code to run the mod in the first place
15:13 rdococ oh my goodness
15:13 rdococ I found it -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11901
15:14 tenplus1 hi rdococ
15:14 * tenplus1 was ordering in dinner :D
15:14 rdococ there's no source code o_O
15:15 rdococ a game in Minetest that doesn't even have source code... you can't even run it then
15:15 rdococ ohh, I get it
15:16 * Mr-Pardison is a bit confuzzled
15:16 Mr-Pardison explain por favor, senor.
15:17 rdococ Mr-Pardison: he hid the source code from the github repository, so that you can only get the mod from the releases tab. it does nothing because you can unzip it and get the lua code that way.
15:17 Mr-Pardison ah.
15:17 tenplus1 :PP
15:17 Mr-Pardison they r an even bigger fool than IO originally thought.
15:17 Mr-Pardison s/IO/I
15:18 rdococ I think, anyway. didn't want to wait for the zipped release to download.
15:18 rdococ downloading mods seems to be so much quicker when I do it from the terminal.
15:20 tenplus1 > wget https://github.com/tenplus1/farming/archive/master.zip
15:20 rdococ nah, > git clone https://github.com/tenplus1/farming
15:20 tenplus1 lol
15:21 tenplus1 added beetroot btw
15:21 rdococ that way I can just "git pull" to update
15:23 tenplus1 https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Beep+beep_fb1461_6593559.jpg
15:23 rdococ Beeptroot
15:24 tenplus1 will add lettuce when my lazy ass does the textures :D
15:24 rdococ delicious
15:25 rdococ tenplus1: what size are the item textures?
15:25 tenplus1 16x16
15:26 rdococ Minetest needs smooth interpolation of item textures asap, I cannot deal with the weird pixel artifacts
15:26 tenplus1 the one's I make are usually just stand-in's until something better comes along
15:26 rdococ that is one very high-res cookie
15:26 rdococ okay, maybe just slightly higher-res
15:27 tenplus1 lol
15:27 tenplus1 things like corn growing is 32x32 for 2 high effect with 1 node :D
15:30 rdococ I downscaled a picture I found online and added an outline
15:30 tenplus1 for what ?
15:30 rdococ for lettuce!
15:31 tenplus1 lol, need growing textures also :D
15:31 Mr-Pardison lettuce rejoice, for rdococ has found tenplus1 a tecture!
15:31 tenplus1 and a food item to make with it
15:31 Mr-Pardison *texture
15:31 Mr-Pardison BLT!
15:32 tenplus1 yay, if mobs_redo then add blt item
15:32 Mr-Pardison purrrfect.
15:33 rdococ I had a concept for glowing pink crystals that plants could grow around
15:33 rdococ The idea is that since plants absorb red and blue light the most, they would grow around the pink crystals that are producing red + blue light
15:34 tenplus1 ooh
15:35 rdococ You can grow lettuce, tomato and wheat around it, and then get a cow farm, and you can make BLTs underground!
15:35 rdococ (although I think plants already grow in torch light already, I guess)
15:35 tenplus1 13 and over
15:35 Mr-Pardison personally, if ethereal is there, then I'd use glostones since I can make a lot of them.
15:36 tenplus1 I think glostone is 12
15:36 tenplus1 cant remember now:P
15:36 rdococ I would like to see acid blocks that only dissolve certain blocks
15:36 Mr-Pardison solution: acidic corium.
15:37 tenplus1 we did have {melt=1} groups ... why notv{dissolve=1} and {acid_melt=1}
15:37 rdococ e.g. nitric acid or "aqua fortis" would dissolve copper and silver (if it exists)
15:37 Mr-Pardison it's already dangerous so why not increase the danger level?
15:37 rdococ Mr-Pardison: acidic corium lava
15:37 Mr-Pardison YAY!
15:38 * Mr-Pardison shall now drown/roast/liquefy his enemies with acidic corium lava
15:38 * rdococ builds a power generator that uses corium, so that he can get energy from Chernobyl
15:39 tenplus1 lol
15:39 tenplus1 bbl, watching infinity war with noms :P
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15:40 Mr-Pardison you would think rdococ would use yays as the power source....
15:40 * rdococ pours the acidic corium lava into the generator, causing it to break, before exploding into colorful yays which he then uses as the real power sourcw
15:40 rdococ s/sourcw/source/
15:41 rdococ Mr-Pardison: Yays would be able to emit an infinite amount of energy at infinite speed
15:41 rdococ Add one to your technic network, and either you no longer need to worry about energy usage or say bye to all of your machines and hello to tons of yaycorium
15:41 Mr-Pardison questions is, could they prove the existence of strings, thereby validating string theory?
15:42 rdococ Yay blobs know if string theory is true or not
15:42 rdococ Unfortunately, they cannot tell us because they only say yay
15:42 rdococ They have also found a proof/disproof for the Goldbach conjecture, but they can't tell us which one it is
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15:52 rdococ odile
15:52 Mr-Pardison cirkey, if it isn't Krock!
15:53 Krock You expected Krock but it's actually Dio da!
15:53 rdococ Krock disguised as Dio da!
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16:18 xerox123 \o/
16:19 Mr-Pardison /o\
16:19 xerox123 everyone doing OK today?
16:19 xerox123 :D
16:20 Krock uh well. could be better. learning like all time time for stuff you'll never need
16:20 Mr-Pardison I'm happy with myself right now since I finished my paper.
16:20 Mr-Pardison Now I can get to teaching myself how to make an automated subway system using advanced trains.
16:22 Krock priorities.
16:23 Mr-Pardison I finished my paper so I am now playing games under the guise of teaching myself something important for LagWorld (would like to have a subway that runs on its own there).
16:28 rubenwardy rdococ: hje
16:28 rubenwardy rdococ: he's just a complete idiot
16:32 Krock rubenwardy, hello, on Friday I've pushed a commit to #7214 to 1) unify the docs notation and 2) return nil for contains() - are you ok with these changes? If so, we can finally merge it
16:32 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7214 -- MetaDataRef: Add contains() and get() by rubenwardy
16:32 rubenwardy yes
16:32 Krock good, thanks :)
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17:00 rubenwardy nice
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17:53 IhrFussel My hand is gone in 0.4.17 ... bug still exists?
17:53 IhrFussel No wait...ok that's weird
17:54 IhrFussel The hand disappears when holding certain items?
17:55 IhrFussel In this case I hold hidden_light from abriglass mod ... I wonder which property of it makes the hand disappear
18:05 Shara Because it has no texture
18:05 Shara And when you hold something you see its texture, not the hand texture
18:07 Mr-Pardison 'ello Shara
18:17 paramat lol good point
18:19 aerozoic what determines the angle of the texture of the item being held? I notice some things are at different angles.
18:22 aerozoic oh nvm, some textures are themselves angled.
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18:41 ircSparky how much of a load does droppped items put on the server?
18:42 Jordach are they loaded or not
18:42 ircSparky would be nice to know both
18:43 ircSparky how heavy is a uploaded dropped item, and how heavy is a loaded dropped item. and i guess how hard it is to load a lot of them?
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19:04 tenplus1 hi peeps
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19:05 tenplus1 hi benrob
19:05 benrob0329 hi tenplus1
19:06 Mr_Pardison ahoy 11
19:06 tenplus1 hi mister :P
19:07 tenplus1 Regrow mod updated, will regrow default apples and ethereal oranges, banana and coconuts on tree's :)
19:07 * benrob0329 feels like he should plan another cinematic sometime soon
19:07 benrob0329 or do something else MT-related
19:07 tenplus1 Benrob presents... The World of Dirt
19:08 * benrob0329 admits to not playing MT very often anymore
19:08 tenplus1 aww, you should :) it's fun
19:09 benrob0329 I think my problem is the time investment, I'm not much of a builder and I've already played the MTG survival rout to its end many times
19:09 benrob0329 er, thats not really time i suppose..
19:09 tenplus1 good point, we need something to work towards, an adventure game of sorts
19:10 Krock benrob0329, Minetest The Movie 2018
19:10 tenplus1 or a progression curve until the player becomed god
19:10 Krock hi tenplus1
19:10 tenplus1 hey Krock :)
19:10 tenplus1 https://github.com/tenplus1/regrow
19:10 Krock quicker this time :)
19:10 tenplus1 ehe
19:11 Krock readme.MD - what I see is a doctor there
19:11 tenplus1 doctor ?
19:11 rubenwardy MD is a docter title
19:11 rubenwardy also, md not MD
19:11 tenplus1 lol, Dr. Readme... gotcha
19:11 Krock Doctor of Medicine
19:11 Krock derived from the latin words: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine
19:12 benrob0329 Correction to previous statement: I don't want to invest the time when I have already played the MTG survival rout several times over
19:12 rubenwardy there's other games than Minetest Game
19:12 benrob0329 not many that are good/finished
19:12 tenplus1 hi ruben
19:12 benrob0329 MC2 is the most complete atm to my knowledge
19:14 Krock minimal. heh :P
19:14 benrob0329 InsideTheBox is fun, when one is in the mood for puzzles
19:14 benrob0329 and doesn't want collaborative multiplayer
19:15 rubenwardy ITB is a singleplayer game masquerading as a multiplayer one
19:15 benrob0329 its a community built singleplayer game
19:15 Krock a singleplayer game with chat partners
19:16 Krock and an official ladder
19:16 benrob0329 which is fun and good, just not what I want to play most of the time
19:20 * Fixer check if p-ramat is AFK and shouts: MMTGGA
19:23 Fixer official ladder?
19:23 benrob0329 Yes, its the wood one over there
19:23 tenplus1 lol, progression ladder ?
19:26 * xerox123 continues working on his 18.04 VM
19:26 xerox123 trying to make it look all pretty :D
19:26 tenplus1 hi xerox :)  how's it running ?
19:26 xerox123 all good
19:26 ircSparky are there plans (or existing methods) for getting any key press?
19:27 xerox123 can't figure out how to install guestadditions
19:27 ircSparky z,x, or c for crouching or prone (at least i hear it will be possible)
19:27 ircSparky changing player collision that is
19:27 tenplus1 should be a  menu option for mount guest additions if installed
19:29 xerox123 yeah, but it doesnt automatically run the script, and I don't know which to run
19:30 tenplus1 https://askubuntu.com/questions/3205/higher-screen-resolution-in-virtualbox
19:34 rdococ hi
19:34 tenplus1 o/
19:34 Mr_Pardison \o/
19:34 xerox123 trying to also get the top xfce4 panel to move to the bottom
19:34 xerox123 oh, did it
19:34 tenplus1 :P
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19:36 rdococ xeroxyaysâ„¢
19:38 xerox123 to yay or to yay, there is no questionâ„¢
19:39 rdococ lol
19:54 rdococ The Mr-Pardison is yayâ„¢
20:04 Fixer official ladder = rubenwardy awards
20:04 Mr-Pardison g2g cya
20:04 Fixer maybe reworked
20:13 IhrFussel ircSparky, that will be difficult since many remap their controls
20:14 IhrFussel It would have to be something like now "controls.sneak", "controls.up" etc
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20:14 ircSparky tenplus1, https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo/pull/163
20:17 tenplus1 thx sparky :)
20:17 tenplus1 looks interesting, will check the code tomorros :D
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20:19 ircSparky yw, its not as good or as polished as open_ai, but its definetly an improvement
20:22 ircSparky main thing I'd be worried about is size difference with different mobs, since i have a set line of sight y offset
20:23 ircSparky which is about where players heads are
20:25 ircSparky ill put that in the PR description
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20:37 aerozoic omg i'm so sick of phantom sounds, has that been fixed yet?
20:38 Mr_Pardison ask the Phantom of the Opera.
20:39 rdococ phantom sounds? is that a YKW thing?
20:40 rdococ oh
20:40 rdococ you mean sounds that occur for no reason, correct? not sounds that the new Micro¢raft mob 'phantom' makes?
20:54 Fixer sometimes I want 2 mouse cursors
20:54 tenplus1 more productivity :P
20:55 Fixer yeah, 1 window is automated mining in voxel game and other is IRC for example
20:56 Mr_Pardison oh, how I wish that were possible.
20:57 tenplus1 nite all o///
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21:10 Mr_Pardison g2g now.
21:10 Mr_Pardison cya whenever I'm back online.
21:12 ThomasMonroe cya
21:25 rdococ Fixer: imagine if you had to control both manally :P
21:25 rdococ s/manally/manually/
21:32 aerozoic rdococ, yes the sounds that occur for no reason.
21:33 rdococ *BANG*
21:37 IhrFussel There are no such sounds in MT...at least not on my server...I'm guessing those are caused by a mod
21:39 IhrFussel Or maybe those are only in 0.5.0-dev
21:40 IhrFussel Or you were talking about Minecraft?
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21:58 rdococ aerozoic: what version and what mods?
22:00 aerozoic rdococ, 4.16 stable. mod list: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18183
22:01 rdococ Did you know that, officially, it is not wrong to split an infinitive, and in some cases may be preferable?
22:01 aerozoic eh, wut?
22:02 rdococ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_English_usage_misconceptions
22:05 rdococ A sentence can end in a prepositionâ„¢
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22:43 Fixer JUST ONE MORE YEAR
22:44 rdococ rubenwardy: I'm in the midst of creating a better team allocation algorithm that ensures that the teams have the most similar total score
22:45 rubenwardy that won't work well
22:45 rubenwardy scores aren't comparable
22:45 rubenwardy a 2x score isn't 2x better
22:45 rdococ hm... K/D ratio?
22:46 rdococ or maybe a combination of the two. you are right, I should use something more complex
22:46 rdococ s/complex/accurate to how well the player plays/
22:51 rdococ I'm gonna try kills - deaths
22:53 rdococ Or K/D ratio, kills / (deaths + 1)
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23:27 IhrFussel Xubuntu 18.04 added a key combination to change font size in terminal...my issue is that they exact same combination is required for nano (jump to line X)
23:29 rdococ jump to line 72, and suddenly everything is huge!
23:29 rdococ can you reconfigure them?
23:34 IhrFussel rdococ, the combination is ctrl+- to decrease font and ctrl++ to increase it again...and nano needs ctrl+- to enter a line number ... I didn't find an option for that yet
23:36 IhrFussel ctrl+shift+- seems to work...but I don't remember having to hold down shift for it before
23:40 rdococ when IhrFussel becomes old he could change his nickname to IhrFossilâ„¢
23:45 rdococ aerozoic: When you need a zoic in the airâ„¢
23:46 rdococ I feel kind of ill
23:46 aerozoic :)
23:47 rdococ hehe, lua is so weird

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