| Time |
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| 00:03 |
ircSparky |
also I was wondering if LBM on a multiplayer servers run every time a client needs to load a block, regardless if its already loaded by another player or the server |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
LBMs -> no |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
LBMs are more likely migration block modifiers |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
so a particular LBM will only run once on a block |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
and never again |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
and also, clients don't load map blocks |
| 00:10 |
rubenwardy |
they cause mapblocks to be loaded when they're near them, but there's nothing special about which client loads a map block |
| 00:11 |
rubenwardy |
so "loaded by another player" doesn't make sence really - it's loaded or not |
| 00:11 |
rubenwardy |
and I'm not sure what you mean by an anti-combat logging mod |
| 00:13 |
ircSparky |
combat logging is when players quit or log out, when they are in the middle of a fight. if you could force a client to stay connected, you could make it so if you detect if someone is in combat when they try to leave, you still make them vunerable to dying a while after they try to disconnect |
| 00:14 |
rubenwardy |
You could spawn an entity |
| 00:14 |
rubenwardy |
Set the hp to the remaining hp |
| 00:14 |
rubenwardy |
Then remember how much they have left for when they log back in |
| 00:15 |
ircSparky |
that would work, I'll try that, thanks |
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AndroBuilder |
Hello can s/o help me with systemd Service ... something ist wrong it is "active (exited)" so not Really Runninghttps://pastebin.com/GAD7jDJC (with the service status) |
| 04:54 |
AndroBuilder |
https://pastebin.com/GAD7jDJC (with the service status) |
| 04:55 |
AndroBuilder |
It says directory not found but i don't know which one because they all exist |
| 04:55 |
AndroBuilder |
And starting the exec command by the terminal it Works ... just Not as a Service |
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sfan5 |
AndroBuilder: did you put the service file into /etc/init.d? |
| 07:22 |
sfan5 |
it should be in /etc/systemd/system |
| 07:22 |
sofar |
looks like someone has a case of the sysvinit... |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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| 09:03 |
lumberJuice |
morning, tenplus1 |
| 09:03 |
tenplus1 |
hi LJ... |
| 09:03 |
* tenplus1 |
wants juice now... *checks fridge* |
| 09:11 |
lumberJuice |
you need a really good juicer to make lumberJuice |
| 09:11 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 09:11 |
tenplus1 |
get all the wood pulpy goodness |
| 09:12 |
lumberJuice |
i guess i should have just used the nick "sap" |
| 09:12 |
tenplus1 |
was looking at commodore plus4 games and someone has actually written a brand new mario-spinoff for this old 8-bit computer that is actually good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El_qHskaRfg |
| 09:13 |
lumberJuice |
ever watch the 8 bit guy's channel on youtube |
| 09:13 |
tenplus1 |
yeh, he's pretty good :PP |
| 09:13 |
lumberJuice |
he has a lot of retro gaming system content that is usually interesting |
| 09:14 |
lumberJuice |
i think he even wrote his own game for one of the commodore systems |
| 09:14 |
tenplus1 |
yeah saw that... looked pretty good :) |
| 09:14 |
tenplus1 |
I like nostalgia systems like the c16/c64/amiga etc |
| 09:15 |
lumberJuice |
those older simple games are some of the most fun, even now imo |
| 09:16 |
lumberJuice |
or at least they are the most replayable |
| 09:16 |
tenplus1 |
agree'd, that;s why so many games are turning retro and 8-bit looking |
| 09:16 |
tenplus1 |
it was all in the gameplay... not how it looked |
| 09:16 |
lumberJuice |
true |
| 09:17 |
tenplus1 |
the original mario still stands the test of time and playability :) |
| 09:17 |
tenplus1 |
amd was prolly no bigger than a 128k rom |
| 09:17 |
lumberJuice |
yep, i think a lot has to do with how much is left for imagination |
| 09:17 |
lumberJuice |
many new games spell too much out with cinematizing (just made that word up) |
| 09:17 |
tenplus1 |
game companies look more towards the look and polish over content now |
| 09:18 |
tenplus1 |
lol snap! |
| 09:19 |
lumberJuice |
ever played Frogatto? |
| 09:20 |
tenplus1 |
I saw that one but never downloaded it :0 |
| 09:20 |
tenplus1 |
looks good :))) you ever tried the windows version of Wizball ? |
| 09:20 |
lumberJuice |
its a bit more modern in style than old mario games. its pretty playable and has that vintage style of gameplay |
| 09:20 |
lumberJuice |
don't think so |
| 09:20 |
tenplus1 |
an original remade for today :) still as good.... :DDD |
| 09:21 |
lumberJuice |
its been a long time since i've done much of anything on windows outside of work stuff |
| 09:22 |
tenplus1 |
to be fair I do run it in WINE on linux :P |
| 09:22 |
lumberJuice |
i occasionally do stuff with wine but its such a pain 1/2 the time i generally just don't bother |
| 09:23 |
tenplus1 |
thankfully we got a lot of emualtors to handle older games :P |
| 09:23 |
lumberJuice |
true |
| 09:25 |
shivajiva |
morning folks :) |
| 09:25 |
tenplus1 |
hey shiva, how's tricks / |
| 09:25 |
lumberJuice |
good morning shiva |
| 09:26 |
shivajiva |
well the code that worked for floating balls yesterday doesn't work today, now it perpetually bounces with the same damn code :/ |
| 09:26 |
tenplus1 |
ouch |
| 09:26 |
tenplus1 |
lemmie see code in pastebin |
| 09:27 |
lumberJuice |
got to love that |
| 09:28 |
shivajiva |
I think I really need to add a section for the velocity behaviour in water, think it's just under baked |
| 09:30 |
tenplus1 |
if it helps: https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo/blob/master/api.lua#L2216 |
| 09:30 |
tenplus1 |
falling behaviour for mobs |
| 09:30 |
tenplus1 |
in water |
| 09:33 |
tenplus1 |
the up movement in water is dampened so it shouldnt bob around too much |
| 09:38 |
shivajiva |
thanks ten, I will craft a velocity behaviour for water as it should have a dramatic effect upon entering compared to air, still doesn't explain why the behaviour changed whilst I slept though lol |
| 09:40 |
tenplus1 |
maybe you were sleep-coding :P |
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tenplus1 |
wb ruben |
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| 10:48 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Krock |
| 10:48 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 10:48 |
Krock |
this came unexpected |
| 10:48 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 10:49 |
tenplus1 |
just like the spanish inquisition :P |
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| 10:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
| 10:50 |
IhrFussel |
Hi there tenplus1 =) |
| 10:50 |
Krock |
just like this duck norris http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mak2f26Xt91qbjr2v.jpg |
| 10:51 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 10:57 |
tenplus1 |
now there's a mob to be scared of |
| 11:04 |
shivajiva |
yay now I finally have something that works..until I sleep that is :D |
| 11:05 |
* Krock |
tried upgrading his machine a bit physically |
| 11:06 |
tenplus1 |
what did you do krock ? |
| 11:06 |
shivajiva |
put the hammer down Krock |
| 11:06 |
tenplus1 |
shiva, glad to hear it works |
| 11:06 |
* Krock |
found plenty of DDR, DDR2 RAM in his collection. Required for upgrade: DDR3 fml |
| 11:06 |
shivajiva |
lol same |
| 11:06 |
Krock |
shivajiva, keep in mind that I'm now using Linux, not Windows. |
| 11:06 |
tenplus1 |
heh... |
| 11:06 |
tenplus1 |
what did you upgrade to ? |
| 11:07 |
shivajiva |
hehe linix is surely an upgrade on doze |
| 11:07 |
shivajiva |
*linux |
| 11:07 |
tenplus1 |
very true, and needs far less resources to work |
| 11:08 |
* tenplus1 |
's distro only needs 140mb on desktop |
| 11:08 |
Krock |
tenplus1, tried to use the RAM cards I still had resting in a drawer but it turned out none of them is DDR3 |
| 11:08 |
tenplus1 |
weirdly enough you can prolly get an adaptor for ddr2 to ddr3 but runs slower |
| 11:09 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ |
| 11:09 |
tenplus1 |
I nkow they have one for sodimm to ddr3 |
| 11:09 |
tenplus1 |
hi longer |
| 11:09 |
longerstaff13 |
good afternoon all |
| 11:09 |
longerstaff13 |
hey 10+1 |
| 11:09 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 11:09 |
longerstaff13 |
:P |
| 11:09 |
Krock |
tenplus1, yes, sodimm DDR3 to DDR3 works quite good because it's the same architecture |
| 11:10 |
shivajiva |
Krock: at least you didn't go down the MB, CPU and memory route only to find out the Intel cpu has more holes than a colander in it :P |
| 11:10 |
tenplus1 |
hah |
| 11:10 |
longerstaff13 |
XD |
| 11:10 |
shivajiva |
a nice £200 lesson |
| 11:10 |
Krock |
not just Intel has holes |
| 11:11 |
shivajiva |
Ik just being bitter xD |
| 11:11 |
shivajiva |
I think sofar said he'd give me my money back LOL |
| 11:12 |
shivajiva |
Jk |
| 11:12 |
tenplus1 |
am still running ddr2 here on my net-top (4gb) |
| 11:12 |
longerstaff13 |
I have DDR3L on my laptop |
| 11:15 |
tenplus1 |
I wonder if anyone is still running a system with edo ram... lol |
| 11:16 |
shivajiva |
optimised for 66 MHz lel |
| 11:17 |
tenplus1 |
:PPP |
| 11:18 |
shivajiva |
why is my pool full of floating footballs lol |
| 11:19 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 11:19 |
tenplus1 |
water polo |
| 11:19 |
tenplus1 |
you've just added a new subgame to the world :D |
| 11:21 |
shivajiva |
some of the settings I have used would be good for water based games where the ball velocity isn't modified but it creates a perpetual bounce effect unfortunately |
| 11:24 |
tenplus1 |
if y velocity < 0.1 then set to 0 to stop bounce |
| 11:28 |
shivajiva |
yep but without a velocity modifier for water the ball never drops that low |
| 11:28 |
longerstaff13 |
heh, I can hear my mother telling the cat to get down off of some wardrobe or something in the living room below |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
heh, cats |
| 11:45 |
IhrFussel |
I just compared Linode to my hoster (netcup) ... linode is a ripoff... they want $20 for 4 GB RAM and only allow 3 TB traffic? Mine is $15, has 12 GB RAM and allows 20 TB traffic |
| 11:45 |
IhrFussel |
Sorry not ripoff...not sure what the word is, but kinda scammy |
| 11:46 |
tenplus1 |
sounds it |
| 11:46 |
IhrFussel |
Linode only gives you 2 cores for $20 while netcup gives you 4 cores |
| 11:47 |
tenplus1 |
wonder why they are being so stingy |
| 11:48 |
shivajiva |
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n9qTKxioGigbb6CFYGgmaY45UK49wrqS |
| 11:49 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 11:49 |
tenplus1 |
nice |
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| 11:53 |
IhrFussel |
Linode doesn't state anywhere if the "cores" you get are guaranteed |
| 11:54 |
Krock |
shivajiva, the sky is still visible. add more |
| 11:54 |
shivajiva |
my experience of linode wasn't good, stormchaser uses them and we had serious issues with server crashes that resolved to the vps not MT |
| 11:54 |
longerstaff13 |
do linode give every customer a separate machine or is it a few shared machines? |
| 11:55 |
IhrFussel |
OKay seems like my hoster takes a bit more money when you're not in Germany...but the resources you get for $17 are still CRAZY https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/ |
| 11:56 |
IhrFussel |
longerstaff13, I doubt that any hoster gives away fully dedicated machines for $20 ... if so the CPU probably sucks |
| 11:57 |
longerstaff13 |
heh |
| 11:57 |
IhrFussel |
The cheapest dedicated I can find in Germany is $55 and you get a Xeon v3 |
| 11:57 |
longerstaff13 |
not bad |
| 11:59 |
IhrFussel |
Although my "root server" @ netcup is not dedicated I must say the highest lag I had in months was 10 secs and that is very rare |
| 12:00 |
IhrFussel |
Cause netcup gives you dedicated cores...it's almost impossible to wait for CPU, cause X amount is enabled just for you |
| 12:00 |
longerstaff13 |
10 seconds... ouch |
| 12:01 |
IhrFussel |
That was only 1 or 2 times, could've been also a problem with the hosting node... right now max_lag is 0.3 which is totally fine |
| 12:01 |
sfan5 |
longerstaff13: linode is a VM hoster, no dedicated machines |
| 12:01 |
longerstaff13 |
oh |
| 12:02 |
sfan5 |
the question you might want to ask instead is whether they have dedicated CPU cores for each vm |
| 12:02 |
longerstaff13 |
I'd ask that then |
| 12:02 |
IhrFussel |
I feel like they would state that soemwhere if that was the case |
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benrob0329 |
Ayy tenplus1 |
| 12:03 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob :P hows you |
| 12:03 |
longerstaff13 |
I get this when I look at linode's web page https://postimg.org/image/wefhbltxj/ |
| 12:03 |
benrob0329 |
Good, I made a thing |
| 12:03 |
tenplus1 |
what kinda thing ? |
| 12:04 |
shivajiva |
heh you can get that spec for 1 Euro |
| 12:05 |
tenplus1 |
is it donut related ? |
| 12:05 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/a4frCzNMdOE |
| 12:06 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, nicely done :DDDD |
| 12:06 |
benrob0329 |
Thanks 😛 |
| 12:07 |
tenplus1 |
you make some pretty amazing movies on the tube dude :P |
| 12:08 |
IhrFussel |
longerstaff13, okay I found one for $20 ... but look at THOSE specs https://www.strato.de/server/linux-root-server/ |
| 12:09 |
longerstaff13 |
that's surprising for 20 dollars |
| 12:09 |
* benrob0329 |
uses https://hosthatch.com/ |
| 12:10 |
IhrFussel |
AMD Opteron 1381 is from 2009 I think...very bad CPU |
| 12:10 |
benrob0329 |
Oh dedis |
| 12:10 |
benrob0329 |
Nvm then |
| 12:10 |
longerstaff13 |
http://cpuboss.com/cpu/AMD-Opteron-1381 |
| 12:10 |
longerstaff13 |
5.2 out of 10 heh |
| 12:10 |
IhrFussel |
benrob0329, nah just talking about how expensive even "decent" dedis are compared to VPS |
| 12:11 |
Krock |
inb4 I'm using a quad from 2007 and works good |
| 12:11 |
longerstaff13 |
Krock: lol |
| 12:11 |
longerstaff13 |
I'm using a dual-core from 2015 for this laptop, it's not got a great clock speed either |
| 12:12 |
Krock |
hah. same rating, different price http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6700-vs-AMD-Opteron-1381 |
| 12:12 |
IhrFussel |
longerstaff13, I had that dedi once in the past..the one I linked... max_lag in MT NEVER went below 0.4 ... even with NO custom mods and only 1 player |
| 12:13 |
longerstaff13 |
heh |
| 12:13 |
IhrFussel |
Average was between 1-2 secs with a few players connected |
| 12:13 |
longerstaff13 |
that's bad |
| 12:13 |
IhrFussel |
When someone started to use some heavy nodes/features lag went up to 5 or so |
| 12:14 |
IhrFussel |
Even generating new map was enough to spike lag |
| 12:14 |
longerstaff13 |
Krock: http://cpuboss.com/cpu/Intel-Celeron-3205U?q=Intel%20Celeron%203205U&ts=1523362455701 |
| 12:15 |
longerstaff13 |
IhrFussel: I guess you finally upgraded after that then? :P |
| 12:17 |
IhrFussel |
I tried a "shared VPS" from the same hoster but every full hour EVERYTHING hung for 60-100 secs |
| 12:18 |
tenplus1 |
weird |
| 12:18 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
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longerstaff13 |
heh |
| 12:18 |
IhrFussel |
When I emailed them they told me "that's to be expected with a normal VPS" |
| 12:20 |
IhrFussel |
And then I found netcup, read impressions about them since they are a very small company ... but then I decided to give them a chance and I'm very happy with the performance now |
| 12:20 |
longerstaff13 |
good |
| 12:21 |
IhrFussel |
It's often the big hosters that oversell their VPS which results in such garbage performance |
| 12:21 |
longerstaff13 |
lots of processes for the CPU |
| 12:23 |
IhrFussel |
But is it really normal or acceptable to not be able to use your VM for ~ 1 minute every hour? |
| 12:25 |
IhrFussel |
I'm guessing it was someone with a very long backup script or something cause it really happened every full hour and made my MT server unplayable... imagine 0.15 secs max_lag for 30 minutes and suddenly 60+ secs max_lag ... just horrible |
| 12:25 |
Krock |
sync it with your backups >:D |
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| 12:49 |
tenplus1 |
back :) |
| 12:49 |
shivajiva |
wb :) |
| 12:49 |
tenplus1 |
thx... needed a quick walk in the rain to go to store |
| 12:50 |
Mr_Pardison |
wb to the land of hoomans (I think... not sure if all of us are or not). |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi mister :P |
| 13:00 |
Mr_Pardison |
so, if I'm registering an inventory page for inventory_plus, do I have to replace "your_mod_name","Your Mod Label" in line 3 on this page: https://cornernote.github.io/minetest-inventory_plus/ or do I just leave it as is? |
| 13:02 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/tenplus1/inventory_plus/blob/master/home_gui.lua#L36 example for ya |
| 13:02 |
Mr_Pardison |
ah. |
| 13:02 |
Mr_Pardison |
thanks. |
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tenplus1 |
hi DI3HARD139 |
| 13:16 |
DI3HARD139 |
Hello tenplus1 |
| 13:17 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
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benrob0329 |
o/ all |
| 13:21 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
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BakerPrime |
Is there someone here that could talk me through adding a mesh? I have a .blend file I'd love to try adding as a node in MT. |
| 13:58 |
BakerPrime |
Never mind. |
| 13:58 |
BakerPrime |
Got it figured out, I think maybe.... |
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tenplus1 |
Lucky Blocks updated, now has wishing well with random block drops |
| 14:56 |
tenplus1 |
including TNT :PPP |
| 14:56 |
Mr-Pardison |
evil :D |
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ThomasMonroe |
KABOOM!!!! |
| 14:56 |
Mr-Pardison |
*click* |
| 14:56 |
* Mr-Pardison |
hears an explosion in the distance |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe... am trying to add more things to LB mod built-in |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
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rubenwardy |
o/ |
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Mr-Pardison |
\o |
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tenplus1 |
o-- |
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Mr-Pardison |
~0~ |
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tenplus1 |
wibbly :P |
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rubenwardy |
v |
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rubenwardy |
~0~ |
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rubenwardy |
^ |
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tenplus1 |
^-^ |
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ThomasMonroe |
~_* |
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Mr-Pardison |
o.O |
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tenplus1 |
@,@ |
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sfan5 |
OwO |
| 15:41 |
tenplus1 |
hi sfan |
| 15:41 |
tenplus1 |
and thomas :p |
| 15:42 |
ThomasMonroe |
hi tenplus1 :D |
| 15:43 |
Krock |
UwU a probwuwem wauwas detewcted. ouwr engineers awuwe working vewuwry hard to fwuwix the pwobwewm |
| 15:43 |
tenplus1 |
who let Elmer Fudd into the channel |
| 15:43 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 15:44 |
ThomasMonroe |
SHHHHH he's hunting wabbits! ;) |
| 15:44 |
tenplus1 |
hah |
| 15:44 |
Mr-Pardison |
pretty good in a stew. |
| 15:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
yup :D |
| 15:47 |
tenplus1 |
not had rabbit in a while... tapas place near here does a tasty one :D |
| 15:48 |
Mr-Pardison |
yum... tapas sound good right now. |
| 15:48 |
Mr-Pardison |
esp. since I'm hungry. |
| 15:51 |
tenplus1 |
gave well water an ominous glow :D |
| 15:52 |
ThomasMonroe |
XD |
| 15:53 |
* Mr-Pardison |
looks into the well, sees that it might be a trap and runs away |
| 15:54 |
tenplus1 |
the well itself gives u goodies, can drop some nice blocks and maybe TNT :P |
| 15:54 |
Mr-Pardison |
it could still be a trap. |
| 16:15 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.imgur.com/LaJ9Kmo.gif |
| 16:15 |
Mr-Pardison |
YES! |
| 16:15 |
tenplus1 |
heh... give it a go, see how many times you get blown up or get nice diamond/mese blocks ;D |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
that space outside seems very busy |
| 16:41 |
tenplus1 |
?? |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
the gif |
| 16:42 |
tenplus1 |
ohh :P |
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| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
hi Darcidride_ |
| 17:06 |
rubenwardy |
so |
| 17:06 |
rubenwardy |
what's a good linux distro which gives you up-to-date software? |
| 17:06 |
rubenwardy |
basically not Ubuntu with Minetest 0.4.13 |
| 17:07 |
* tenplus1 |
is using Xubuntu 18.04 final beta, very up to date |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
that's ubuntu |
| 17:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
using uvuntu 16.04 LTS, used the stable PPA of MT to get 0.4.16 instead of having to use 0.4.13 from the store. |
| 17:07 |
tenplus1 |
it comes with 0.4.16 in repo's |
| 17:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
*ubuntu |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
I'm on Xubuntu something and I can't update to the latest LTS because the updater is broken |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
just crashes |
| 17:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
have you tried using the terminal? |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
LOL |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
> sudo software-update -d |
| 17:08 |
rubenwardy |
yup |
| 17:08 |
rubenwardy |
that's what I did! |
| 17:08 |
Mr-Pardison |
what about with the -fix-missing and -broken options? |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
weird, updated my laptop the other week and it worked ok... |
| 17:08 |
rubenwardy |
I want the most recent stable version of user land software |
| 17:08 |
DI3HARD139 |
I have that same problem with Ubuntu Server with xfce |
| 17:08 |
rubenwardy |
but back ported version of OS software |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
user land being the wrong term for things I can see |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
X.04 doesn't give you this |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
it gives you versions at the time of the .04 release, and no newer |
| 17:09 |
tenplus1 |
it's quick enough to actually install from flash drive... 8 mins |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
rubenwardy:~ $ sudo software-update -d |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
sudo: software-update: command not found |
| 17:10 |
tenplus1 |
> sudo update-manager -d |
| 17:11 |
Krock |
<rubenwardy> what's a good linux distro which gives you up-to-date software? || slackwave-current |
| 17:11 |
rubenwardy |
tenplus1: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/4f5784619b48b860104d0c78fe0f2308 |
| 17:11 |
rubenwardy |
that's the error |
| 17:12 |
Krock |
reinstall the updater? |
| 17:13 |
tenplus1 |
are you running server edition ? |
| 17:13 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
17.04, apparently |
| 17:14 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, reinstall update-manager and it'll pull in what it needs |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
but it's actually 16.10 |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
the update failed but it thinks it's 17.04 |
| 17:15 |
tenplus1 |
prolly be quicker making a flash drive and running an upgrade from that |
| 17:16 |
rubenwardy |
I'd rather use a distro which doesn't break so easily |
| 17:16 |
rubenwardy |
and gave me up to date software |
| 17:17 |
tenplus1 |
I cant recommend anything else unfortunately, ubuntu is my main driver and has always worked on all my systems |
| 17:19 |
Krock |
this sounds like some incoming distro hopping, rubenwardy :) |
| 17:21 |
tenplus1 |
Manjaro is no.2 on the linux charts, could always try the latest release: https://manjaro.org/ |
| 17:22 |
rubenwardy |
it would be great if Ubuntu didn't break upgrading when they deprecate a release |
| 17:22 |
rubenwardy |
I worry that Manjaro would give up-to-date software at the cost of massive instability |
| 17:23 |
tenplus1 |
how about mint ? |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
oh nice |
| 17:23 |
tenplus1 |
based on debian and ubuntu repo's with CHECKED updates |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
rolling release sounds good |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
I'll keep mint in mind to |
| 17:24 |
tenplus1 |
mint xfce does work and I tend to give that to my customers who want something like win7 |
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| 17:29 |
tenplus1 |
wb benrob |
| 17:30 |
benrob0329 |
ty tenplus1 |
| 17:31 |
BakerPrime |
Hello Benrob |
| 17:36 |
* sofar |
coughs clearlinux [advertisement] |
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| 17:36 |
tenplus1 |
wb longer |
| 17:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi sofar |
| 17:37 |
Mr-Pardison |
'ello sofar |
| 17:41 |
tenplus1 |
does clear have a live desktop image that installs a desktop.browser etc? |
| 17:53 |
sofar |
I think so, it may not autostart - I don't remember |
| 17:54 |
sofar |
you can install it in the live image anyway |
| 17:54 |
sofar |
there's gnome, xfce4, firefox |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
kl |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
sofar: phoronix already advertises it anyway (paid or not, no idea) |
| 18:03 |
* rubenwardy |
downloads Manjaro |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
gonna check that high biomes PR |
| 18:07 |
Fixer |
spawned in jungle tree, as usual |
| 18:07 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 18:09 |
Mr-Pardison |
XD |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
finally better biomes in MTG |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
it looks nicer these days |
| 18:10 |
tenplus1 |
another reason I wanna transfer Ethereal biomes to floatlands instead of override defaults |
| 18:10 |
Fixer |
i really like how evergreen forest looks, muuuuch better |
| 18:11 |
Fixer |
apple trees need some rework and something also feels missing in apple tree forests |
| 18:11 |
Fixer |
jungle is nice more or less (apart from texture, always disliked it for some reason), ultratall trees look nice |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
do we have mixed tree schems in jungle now ? |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
no idea |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
ask paramat |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
carpathian mapgen is surprisingly good for building |
| 18:14 |
tenplus1 |
yep, we have mixed schems... just checked code |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
huuuge flat areas |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
ck, forgot to switch to proper game |
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| 18:26 |
tenplus1 |
wb mister |
| 18:27 |
Mr_Pardison |
t.hanks |
| 18:29 |
Krock |
h.ello m.ister |
| 18:30 |
Mr_Pardison |
keyboard heats up fast outside in direect sun. |
| 18:30 |
Fixer |
.e.... |
| 18:30 |
Fixer |
try boiling some eggs on it |
| 18:31 |
Mr_Pardison |
nah that's the road during the summer. |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
and cars |
| 18:33 |
Fixer |
keking https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/16494741/38576146-f6025e0e-3d05-11e8-8efc-4d56c0932743.png |
| 18:35 |
Fixer |
if only my calculator can go past vrange 100 |
| 18:36 |
Mr_Pardison |
time to start climbing. |
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| 18:36 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 18:36 |
Raven262 |
o/ |
| 18:36 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:36 |
Raven262 |
:P |
| 18:37 |
* tenplus1 |
jumps in well |
| 18:37 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/8tkyxFf.jpg |
| 18:37 |
Mr_Pardison |
nice. |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
ew JPG |
| 18:37 |
Fixer |
that biome mismatch - nevermind it, will be fixed |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
fancy uploading a PNG with no HUD or debug things? |
| 18:37 |
Fixer |
yeah, looks shitty |
| 18:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
production quality, folks! |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: imgur limits PNG sizes |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
:'( |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: you can always take seed and it is carpathian |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
and coordinates are there |
| 18:39 |
Mr_Pardison |
lol you're only getting 3 FPS with FVR on. |
| 18:40 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/6vHWvsR.png |
| 18:40 |
Fixer |
Mr_Pardison: 13 years old GPU |
| 18:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
explains a lot. |
| 18:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
if I put FVR on, I would get like 1 or 2 FPS. |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
if only we can push those server owners to use various mapgens we have |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
servers use v6 or v7 most of the time |
| 18:44 |
* tenplus1 |
lieks v7 |
| 18:46 |
Fixer |
HUMANS https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DacUhNdXkAEboV-.jpg:large |
| 18:47 |
tenplus1 |
Zuck is a lizard person |
| 18:47 |
Mr_Pardison |
XD |
| 18:47 |
Fixer |
very lizard |
| 18:49 |
* Shara |
thinks more servers need to use valleys |
| 18:49 |
tenplus1 |
o/ shara |
| 18:50 |
* rubenwardy |
thinks more servers should be different |
| 18:51 |
* Mr_Pardison |
wonders why we're doing 3rd person actions |
| 18:51 |
* Shara |
just likes it |
| 18:51 |
* tenplus1 |
wonders why he's wondering why ppl are doing 3rd person too |
| 18:52 |
* Mr_Pardison |
makes a mental note to never sit outside in direct sunlight using a laptop that has a dakr keyboard. |
| 18:52 |
Shara |
Carpathian is too low down the list... most people probably never scroll far enough to see it |
| 18:52 |
tenplus1 |
did it melt ? |
| 18:52 |
Shara |
So don't realise it exists |
| 18:52 |
Mr_Pardison |
not yet. |
| 18:53 |
Mr_Pardison |
just a bit of pain when typing. |
| 18:53 |
Mr_Pardison |
not much shade where I'm at. |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
carpathian is very nice, it offers lots of flat terrain, as well as small, large, huge hills |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
valleys is very scenic |
| 19:06 |
Fixer |
v6 is as boring as minecraft biomes |
| 19:06 |
Fixer |
v7 is interesting |
| 19:06 |
Fixer |
has rivers |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
singlenode is mind=blown |
| 19:07 |
Mr_Pardison |
/nick Mr-Pardison |
| 19:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
there. |
| 19:07 |
rubenwardy |
right, everything backed up |
| 19:07 |
rubenwardy |
time to install |
| 19:07 |
rubenwardy |
:O |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
gl rubenwardy |
| 19:08 |
Fixer |
sofar: here is another project that you may like https://www.planetminecraft.com/project/skygrid-survival-map/ it has mcedit filter to do this yourself and then convert to minetest format |
| 19:08 |
* rubenwardy |
checks he has a copy of his IRC password |
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| 19:14 |
* rubenwardy |
grabs his civ5 saves, don't wanna lose those |
| 19:14 |
Krock |
commit the latest content browser changes |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
ofc |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
oh no, I've lost it all! |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
looks like we'll have to wait until 0.6! |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
maybe we'll have mods by then too |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
SHIT NO PLEASE NO |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
errr |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
*mobs |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
nah, it's on git |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
I git backup all my projects |
| 19:16 |
* Krock |
runs crying in a hysteric way in a circle |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
however there may be WIP changes locally |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
git doesn't mean that it's on the server |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
but I've already gone through and pushed them |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
mobs, yes |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
please |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 19:20 |
rubenwardy |
my top issues with MT are: no content store, MTG is boring, shitty formspecs, poor input code, and bugs and performance |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
hmmmm |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
right, time to break my laptop! |
| 19:21 |
Shara |
Good luck |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
like, physically. |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
I'm scared |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
installing Manjaro ? |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
good luck |
| 19:22 |
Krock |
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/ |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
"If you're going to break it, do it in the half" |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
</shitpost> |
| 19:28 |
Fixer |
i miss ****fakes |
| 19:28 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
oh it is not porn |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
just half cut things |
| 19:30 |
Fixer |
ssd https://i.redd.it/akyihsfkn8q01.jpg |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
lol, so tiny inside |
| 19:34 |
Krock |
reserving space to somewhen release a 4 TB version where it still looks like they're making improvements on density |
| 19:35 |
tenplus1 |
Samsung has already released their 30.72TB SSD drive :P |
| 19:35 |
tenplus1 |
and Seagate came back with a 60TB version in 3.5" drive format |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
i really wait for a time when I can just take small fanless box with passive cooling with decent gpu and cpu and ssd inside |
| 19:37 |
Fixer |
but I guess there are limits |
| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
rasbperry Pi 3 B with 500gb ssd :D |
| 19:37 |
Fixer |
fan still needed these days |
| 19:37 |
Fixer |
it is slow af |
| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
maybe v4 will have usb3 and proper gigabit eth |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
I actually wait for decent computer in a keyboard, that will be fun |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
like old good times |
| 19:38 |
tenplus1 |
heh, the good old days :D |
| 19:39 |
tenplus1 |
in this day and age pc's are small enough to fit inside a kb anyhoo :) |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
yes, and they are already made, but not on mass scale it seems |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
also, that god damn windows, it is getting on my nerves |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/rdpH2vA.png |
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tenplus1 |
hi gael |
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| 19:57 |
rubenwardy |
hello from Manjaro! |
| 19:58 |
tenplus1 |
;)) how's it running dude |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
xmarks isn't working :'( |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
oh wait nvm |
| 19:59 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
just remembered that Firefox Sync is a thing |
| 19:59 |
tenplus1 |
what browser you got ? |
| 19:59 |
tenplus1 |
ah |
| 19:59 |
tenplus1 |
does it contain the new versions of what you need since it's a rolling release ? |
| 20:01 |
IhrFussel |
Most skins on planetminecraft have no license... do you think the users will not complain if we use them on our servers? |
| 20:02 |
rubenwardy |
it's technically illegal |
| 20:02 |
tenplus1 |
you'd prolly have to ask |
| 20:02 |
Shara |
No license doesn't mean you can do anything you like with something |
| 20:03 |
IhrFussel |
I cannot ask each user and wait weeks or maybe even months (some skins are years old) for replies |
| 20:03 |
Shara |
It just means you don't know what the conditions for use are |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
if the author doesn't specify what may happen with the texture, then you may not use it |
| 20:03 |
IhrFussel |
I credit them...that should be fine then |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
well, for local use only if it's distributed by them |
| 20:04 |
Shara |
Fussel, uhh, no, that doesn't make it right |
| 20:04 |
tenplus1 |
2a. No, a License Was Not Provided With the AssetContact the creator of the asset and/or the host of the asset for licensing information. If your are unable to obtain licensing information, then you cannot legally use the asset in your game. |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
you could even pay them for it but then it's still not legal |
| 20:05 |
IhrFussel |
Most users are kids who make those skins...I doubt that they even know what licenses are |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't make it ok |
| 20:05 |
Krock |
^ |
| 20:06 |
IhrFussel |
They provided the skins on a page that has a big fat download button and most of them even say "enjoy using them" so it's not clear in what way I should use them |
| 20:06 |
Shara |
Maybe you should check if there are conditions for uploading that define use then |
| 20:06 |
tenplus1 |
personal use only... but without license of permission it's illegal to use for something you give away to otehr ysers |
| 20:06 |
tenplus1 |
*users |
| 20:08 |
IhrFussel |
Well I credit them...if they still have a problem with their skins being available publicly on my server then they can complain |
| 20:08 |
rubenwardy |
it's still illegal |
| 20:08 |
rubenwardy |
for someone so scared about data protection that's a bit weird to me |
| 20:08 |
Shara |
For someone who has been making such a big fuss about onbe set of laws, it seems you don't give a damn about these ones. |
| 20:09 |
Shara |
one* |
| 20:09 |
Krock |
to be fair, it'll barely happen that anyone complains about it |
| 20:09 |
Shara |
Krock: Well yea, but how would they even know another game is using them? :) |
| 20:09 |
Krock |
they don't. and they can assume that it's not used due the copyright laws |
| 20:10 |
tenplus1 |
server use is ok if they are sharing textures, mod use for distribution is not without licence./permission |
| 20:10 |
Shara |
Ten, you're contrdicting yourself. Server use isn't personal use |
| 20:11 |
Krock |
that they share the artwork doesn't allow you to do the same |
| 20:11 |
Shara |
Not when you're dropping it on a public server |
| 20:11 |
tenplus1 |
server use = your personal server players play on |
| 20:11 |
Krock |
= singleplayer, then yes. |
| 20:11 |
Shara |
Fussel's server is public |
| 20:12 |
Krock |
also, all clients who don't link their cache directory to some kind of /dev/null void will download it. from your server. |
| 20:13 |
Krock |
^ * download and save it permanently |
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tenplus1 |
hi aerozoic |
| 20:18 |
aerozoic |
hi tenplus1 |
| 20:23 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o// |
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| 20:51 |
IhrFussel |
If you say personal use only means locally then it would mean ALL people on that site who use the skins for MC do it illegal since the textures are still shown on other clients or not? |
| 20:58 |
Krock |
dunno about MC but it's definitely allowed for singleplayer use |
| 20:58 |
* Fixer |
right now reading this chat above https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DacVsKOX4AEVxE5.png:large |
| 20:58 |
Krock |
maybe there are also some kind of license agreement on that page which ensure legal use in multiplayer |
| 20:59 |
Krock |
Fixer, vietnam and zuck? |
| 20:59 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: how is it going? |
| 21:00 |
rubenwardy |
good thanks! |
| 21:01 |
rubenwardy |
just installing GTK themes |
| 21:01 |
Fixer |
GTK2 themes |
| 21:01 |
Fixer |
*_* |
| 21:02 |
Krock |
what WM/DE are you using? |
| 21:11 |
rubenwardy |
XFCE |
| 21:14 |
Krock |
nice :) |
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| 21:53 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: GTK3 one? |
| 21:53 |
rubenwardy |
I don't know |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
the latest, probably |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
XFCE 4.12 |
| 21:59 |
Fixer |
yt clickbait at ridiculous levels https://i.imgur.com/mYCAveK.png |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
when will minetest be popular enough for clickbait videos aimed at 10yos?? |
| 22:07 |
rubenwardy |
noob question: pacman vs yaourt |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
oh wait, yaourt isn't even installed |
| 22:10 |
sfan5 |
pacman is the package manager |
| 22:10 |
sfan5 |
yaourt is much more |
| 22:10 |
rubenwardy |
I want to install this: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/albert/ |
| 22:10 |
rubenwardy |
do I need to use yaourt for AUR packages? |
| 22:10 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 22:11 |
sfan5 |
the manual way is `git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/albert.git && cd albert && makepkg -si` |
| 22:11 |
rubenwardy |
that doesn't allow updating though,surely? |
| 22:12 |
sfan5 |
`cd albert && git pull && makepkg -si` |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
yaourt is nice |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
you can also use pacaur |
| 22:12 |
sfan5 |
you can do it manually, but you most likely don't want to |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
you need to acquire the AUR helper manually, as none of them are included in the Arch repos |
| 22:12 |
rubenwardy |
how do I install an AUR package and have it update/upgrade with a single upgrade command? |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
(Manjaro/Antergos have built-in AUR support optionally) |
| 22:13 |
sfan5 |
that's what you use an AUR helper for |
| 22:13 |
rubenwardy |
I'm using Manjaro :) |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
(they install yaourt when installing the distro) |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! ) |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
guessing this just means that Manjaro don't support it? Ie: it's AUR |
| 22:17 |
rubenwardy |
why does albert depend on virtualbox? |
| 22:17 |
rubenwardy |
that's stupid |
| 22:22 |
* xerox123 |
whispers, "I'm on windows..." |
| 22:25 |
Fixer |
albert? |
| 22:25 |
rubenwardy |
https://albertlauncher.github.io/ |
| 22:25 |
rubenwardy |
screenshots here: https://github.com/albertlauncher/albert |
| 22:26 |
Fixer |
fonts blurred |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
I should make a Minetest albert plugin |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
for mods and such |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
using Krocks parser |
| 22:52 |
rubenwardy |
> installs atom |
| 22:52 |
rubenwardy |
> 500MB |
| 22:52 |
rubenwardy |
> sounds about right |
| 22:52 |
rubenwardy |
surely atoms are meant to be small? |
| 22:59 |
rud0lf |
how can i take a list of registered nodes? |
| 22:59 |
rud0lf |
a table, rather |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
what do you mean? |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
what does "take" mean? |
| 23:01 |
rud0lf |
get a reference to all registered items |
| 23:01 |
rud0lf |
sorry |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
reference? |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
as in, a copy of the definition? |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
use minetest.registered_items[] for all items |
| 23:02 |
rud0lf |
thanks |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
so you can do for name, def in pairs(minetest.registered_items) do |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
note that during load time the list will be incomplete |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
I love this, it's so easy |
| 23:13 |
rubenwardy |
oh wow, CTF is in AUR |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
I mean, there's also ctf_pvp_engine which pretends it's a subgame too |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
also "subgame" |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
anyone know who shellkr is? |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
>atom >500MB, pokerface |
| 23:21 |
rubenwardy |
it's ridiculous |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
oh no |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
oh fuck no |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
EXTRACT THE RAM |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
the logo for Minetest is wrong! |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
∟oh |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
it's some tree thing |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
wait, it's only like that in albert |
| 23:43 |
rubenwardy |
the violating theme is Vertex-Maia |
| 23:44 |
longerstaff13-m |
Hi |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
lol https://github.com/manjaro/vertex-maia-icon-themes/issues/10 |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
o/ |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
longerstaff13-m: how's it going? |
| 23:49 |
longerstaff13-m |
Good morning rubenwardy |
| 23:49 |
longerstaff13-m |
Not bad :P |
| 23:49 |
longerstaff13-m |
Yourself? |
| 23:49 |
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| 23:50 |
longerstaff13-m |
Ello |
| 23:50 |
Fixer |
good night |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
o/ |
| 23:51 |
longerstaff13-m |
Night |
