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red-045 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
red-045: Incorporeal Visions Deluxe - è©© Desktop - YouTube |
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redblade7 |
hi |
| 05:16 |
redblade7 |
i'm kinda confused about something |
| 05:16 |
redblade7 |
it says here paramat runs multicraft? https://github.com/paramat/MultiCraft |
| 05:17 |
redblade7 |
isn't that the google play adware version of minetest? |
| 05:17 |
redblade7 |
it says paramat is an official developer |
| 05:17 |
redblade7 |
on github |
| 05:18 |
redblade7 |
or is the google play adware version run by someone else? |
| 05:18 |
redblade7 |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft |
| 05:20 |
redblade7 |
that links to another multicraft on github though: https://github.com/MultiCraftProject/MultiCraft |
| 05:23 |
redblade7 |
This says Multicraft is fake: https://wiki.minetest.net/Overview_of_Minetest_forks |
| 05:24 |
redblade7 |
As does this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16707&hilit=multicraft#p242219 |
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shivajiva |
it's not unusual for devs to fork forks and see what they inflict on their users and our servers |
| 09:49 |
shivajiva |
paramat is a minetest developer and has nothing to do with multicraft afaik |
| 10:01 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 10:01 |
redblade7 |
you just caught me before i was going to bed, goodnight |
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shivajiva |
Gn o/ |
| 10:26 |
nerzhul |
interesting, twitch uses IRC based system for its chat https://blog.twitch.tv/gos-march-to-low-latency-gc-a6fa96f06eb7 |
| 10:37 |
red-045 |
redblade7: paramat made a few pull requests to multicraft and you need to fork before doing that that's all |
| 10:37 |
red-045 |
https://github.com/MultiCraftProject/MultiCraft/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=+is%3Apr+author%3Aparamat+ |
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red-045 |
MoNTE48 is the person that runs multicraft |
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paramat |
redblade7 yes i did about 10 hours work for multicraft, but i've decided to not do that anymore because my heart is not in it (even though it's well paid work and i have no income) sfan has done some work for it too |
| 11:10 |
paramat |
it's one of the better behaved android forks but still a mess and has ads, future is uncertain too because it probably won't be updating to 0.5 |
| 11:11 |
paramat |
so instead i work like crazy for MT while i desperately try to find money to live on =S |
| 11:16 |
paramat |
!tell Megaf calm down, your crash is your own fault, not Minetest's =) you're using a very recent MTG that is not in sync with the backport 0.4 engine. just ask and we'll help you out |
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MinetestBot |
paramat: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around |
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IhrFussel |
days left before the details of the exploit will be made public |
| 17:56 |
IhrFussel |
Oops something went wrong there |
| 17:58 |
IhrFussel |
Let's try this again -> Server owners: If you still use the older 3d_armor version on your server and have not updated to the bugfix version yet, you have exactly 10 days left before the details of the exploit will be made public |
| 17:59 |
Mr_Pardison |
and how do you know this? |
| 17:59 |
IhrFussel |
Cause the user who found the exploit says so |
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IhrFussel |
I'm sharing word of mouth here cause of his newest post stating that many popular servers still use the vulnerable version |
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Mr_Pardison |
ah. |
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Krock |
IhrFussel, "reported in the forums" where? |
| 18:00 |
IhrFussel |
In the Servers section |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
nvm |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
yeah, just seen it too after browsing the two most recent pages on general discussion and bugs&problems |
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IhrFussel |
Yeah well maybe not the best place to put it |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
well, great. now I have a testing mod but no 0.4.17 build :/ |
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sofar |
is "your friend" going to release the exploit? |
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sofar |
or "details of the exploit" whatever that may mean |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
sofar: the problem should be rather obvious when you look at the commit that fixes it |
| 18:12 |
sofar |
I saw that, of course |
| 18:13 |
sofar |
I'm just wondering about what will be released |
| 18:13 |
sfan5 |
a CSM that makes this exploit easy to perform I'm guessing |
| 18:15 |
red-001 |
its the known issue with inventory stuff getting sent to the server |
| 18:16 |
red-001 |
#5989 |
| 18:16 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5989 -- [CSM] Inventory changes are sent to server instead of being handled by a local callback. |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
(?) |
| 18:25 |
sofar |
sfan5: oh, yeah, I think I see it now as well |
| 18:26 |
sofar |
I could probably make a CSM that could attempt to test if *any* inv is vulnerable in this way |
| 18:26 |
sofar |
having the exploit code would allow me to better test and detect other vulnerable mods |
| 18:26 |
sofar |
so, I'd definitely need to see it |
| 18:28 |
benrob0329 |
I feel like we need creative ways of dealing with cheaters |
| 18:29 |
benrob0329 |
Make the game no fun if you cheat, for example |
| 18:37 |
celeron55 |
it already happens, just to the ones that don't cheat 8) |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
oh lol. first attempt and the duplication bug works |
| 18:39 |
Krock |
why is there even a detached inventory in use?! |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
duplicated information can get out of sync so easily |
| 18:40 |
paramat |
heh |
| 18:41 |
sofar |
Krock: that's why we might as well make a generic version so we can scan for other vulnerable mods |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
sofar, a generic version of what? |
| 18:42 |
sofar |
of course, it's easy enough to search for detached inventory using mods |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
using CSM only I don't know of any way to get a list of all available detached inventories |
| 18:43 |
sofar |
you'd have to have a server side mod communicate and send that list to the client |
| 18:43 |
sofar |
a little overengineered perhaps though |
| 18:43 |
Krock |
oh. using mod channels to unit-test the mods :D |
| 18:44 |
sofar |
essentially, yes |
| 18:45 |
sfan5 |
Krock: because non-detached invs can't have callbacks |
| 18:45 |
Krock |
i.e. player inventories have no callbacks |
| 18:46 |
Krock |
yeah, I see |
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red-001 |
sofar, see the csm mod that was made for a similar exploit in chests? |
| 20:07 |
red-001 |
might have been removed from the forum but I assume you can still see it since you are an admin |
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red-001 |
"csm_chest_inspector" |
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sofar |
chest inspection is trivial, yes |
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red-001 |
not much difference between that and this |
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Fixer |
----, bad blocks on portable hdd .___. |
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rubenwardy |
Mail from ######: Report: Blueteam Because they keep on killing me (no mods online) |
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* rubenwardy |
sighs |
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red-001 |
well it's CTF you are suppose to go get the flag, not kill people |
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xerox123 |
yeah! |
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red-001 |
PvP must just be on by accident |
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xerox123 |
you maybe accidently set enable_damage to true? |
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red-001 |
^ |
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