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00:06 |
Fixer |
with tentacles |
00:33 |
RoaryTiger |
you what mate? |
00:34 |
red-001 |
RoaryTiger, you heard the anime pope "Japanese Jesus with tentacles" |
00:35 |
* red-001 |
calls for a reformation and nails stuff to a door |
00:35 |
red-001 |
<RoaryTiger> I will be using this nick for the forerable future |
00:36 |
red-001 |
I mean I don't disagree with only the next hour being easy to forsee |
00:36 |
PumpkinHead |
There we go |
00:36 |
PumpkinHead |
You couldn't foresee this change, could you? So there you have it. :P |
00:42 |
PumpkinHead |
Sopitfy audio quality is terrible |
00:42 |
PumpkinHead |
trying to listen to Symphony No.9 but it hurts my ears |
00:46 |
PumpkinHead |
much better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqGA5rjLxT8 |
00:46 |
PumpkinHead |
!title |
00:46 |
MinetestBot |
PumpkinHead: Mozart - Rondo Alla Turca orchestra version - YouTube |
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MinetestBot |
Mr_Pardison: Feb-09 22:27 UTC <Fixer> i see a saw charge change, it should probably be out of this PR |
13:27 |
Mr_Pardison |
Fixer: saw charge change? |
13:27 |
Mr_Pardison |
will have to take a look at the PR I put out since I ca't recall this. |
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13:35 |
Mr_Pardison |
found it. |
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14:30 |
Mr_Pardison |
I will need to see if the power level works at 30k to cut down a whole redwood tree or if it takes 300k to do so since they are so large. |
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15:28 |
IhrFussel |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19642 |
15:28 |
IhrFussel |
Wasn't that fixed in recent MT versions? Sounds like the guy is using a old one |
15:32 |
Fixer |
Why it's hard to find a good popular server these days (7 NOV 2012) |
15:32 |
Fixer |
thats were minetest can get in |
15:33 |
Fixer |
from what I see, mc is full of cancer, with raped servers full of crates, ranks, constant votings, reeeing, campers, grief |
15:33 |
Fixer |
you can hardly find a good server that is not reset each damn year or your data removed after 2 month of afk |
15:33 |
Mr_Pardison |
I agree. |
15:34 |
Fixer |
and here comes minetest |
15:34 |
Fixer |
minetest servers today are pretty much best minecraft of golden era |
15:34 |
Fixer |
pure |
15:34 |
Fixer |
without that profit cancer |
15:35 |
Fixer |
and voting, blah, diamond kits, ranks for donators... |
15:35 |
Fixer |
you pretty much have classic old good days, but in minetest |
15:37 |
Fixer |
now what MTG needs, is a bit polish, get those basic gameplay stuff finished, tools in hands, some mobs, armour, machinery+rocketry, avoiding overblowing it, fancy up biomes, more tree schematics, throwing api with bows, arrows, it like mc beta golden days, but polished and not direct copy, with own direction |
15:37 |
Fixer |
a m b i e n c e, a little wind, maybe, cave sound, DO NOT RAIN OFTEN |
15:37 |
Fixer |
rain is somewhat rare, it annoyce a lot of people it seems |
15:38 |
Fixer |
snow is nice, should be the way as in MC, creates vibe |
15:38 |
Fixer |
do not make direct copy of MC, take good stuff and leave that nether/end/rpg cancer away |
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15:42 |
Fixer |
automation will be nice to have, those switches, plates, a lot of smart people love it, we should aim for smart but simple |
15:42 |
Fixer |
do not lure cancerous kids in |
15:42 |
Mr_Pardison |
the horror. |
15:42 |
Fixer |
only for adult, only golden-era-mc-like-but-different-yet-still-good-experience |
15:43 |
IhrFussel |
Levels in MT can actually be fun...on my server you level up to have more HP and do more damage ... and your tamed pets can level up too and join you as companion against baddies |
15:44 |
Fixer |
also, sofar is right, 32k limit is dumb, it is useable for other completely different subgames, I have impression, to have good server you actually need very narrow limit aka 3000x3000x3000 at most |
15:44 |
IhrFussel |
I'm guessing "rpg crap" was refering to players having levels |
15:44 |
Fixer |
yes |
15:45 |
IhrFussel |
MC levels make no sense, AFAIK they do not increase any stats |
15:45 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: not sure about levels (maybe it is good idea, but how it will work?), but stuff like potions, brewing, that feels wrong for MT |
15:45 |
Fixer |
G |
15:45 |
Mr_Pardison |
just shows how much time one has wasted for that. |
15:46 |
IhrFussel |
Are levels in MC still only used for magic potions/spells and are pretty much the currency? |
15:47 |
Mr_Pardison |
no clue as I have never played MC. |
15:47 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: not really, levels are used for enchanting and repairing stuff |
15:47 |
IhrFussel |
Last time I watched a video of someone playing it was a few years ago and "EXP" was just like money |
15:48 |
Fixer |
in MC today everything is money, don't forget to vote everyday and receive 10 diamonds for free, now that is cancer |
15:48 |
IhrFussel |
But do you still lose EXP for that stuff? It's not a real level system then to me |
15:49 |
IhrFussel |
More like job points in rpgs ... you spent job points to unlock new skills |
15:50 |
IhrFussel |
spend* |
15:50 |
Mr_Pardison |
IMO, a real level system unlocks new item types and stuff when you get to the next level. |
15:51 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: yes, you loose EXP when you repair or enchant |
15:51 |
IhrFussel |
A real level system to me is permanent and doesn't decrease if you buy something in the game... you can lose EXP when you die but that's it |
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15:52 |
Fixer |
personally i really like moving roguelike aspect of potions/scrools/stuffs/wands/spells into minetest subgame, but probably not in MTG, that will be too extreme |
15:52 |
Mr_Pardison |
Fixer: have you heard of a game called pixel dungeon? |
15:53 |
IhrFussel |
I think it#s cool on my server how a level 1 player sees a level 30 one killing a huge mob and thinking "wow someday I'll be as strong as him" |
15:53 |
Fixer |
Mr_Pardison: yes, thats very typical example of roguelike game, pretty known one |
15:53 |
Fixer |
classic one |
15:53 |
Fixer |
but nothing beats BROGUE |
15:54 |
Fixer |
masterpiece, simple, fun, hard, nice looking, nice UI, best classic ever |
15:54 |
IhrFussel |
I'm thinking about ading some type of party system to the server... but that could be complicated |
15:54 |
Fixer |
Mr_Pardison: actually I prefer Shattered one, PD has that really bad weapon degeneration thing |
15:55 |
Mr_Pardison |
undegraded pixel dungeon from the chrome webstore doesn't have that. |
15:55 |
Mr_Pardison |
items never wear out. |
15:58 |
Calinou |
is it useful to report bugs against 0.4.16? (I don't know if it applies to 0.5.0, but it is very likely) |
15:59 |
Calinou |
mouse look isn't responsive to small mouse movements, which makes it really annoying to use |
15:59 |
Calinou |
(perhaps due to a floating-point precision error) |
15:59 |
Calinou |
I'm using `mouse_sensitivity = 0.07` in minetest.conf on Linux, with mouse acceleration set to a flat profile |
16:00 |
Calinou |
it happens mostly vertically, less so horizontally |
16:41 |
Fixer |
"we only allow quality players" |
16:41 |
Fixer |
>_> |
16:41 |
Hijiri |
where |
16:42 |
Mr-Pardison |
can they even define "quality"? |
16:47 |
Fixer |
minecraft online server turned into crap very quickly, it seems, like 5 years ago minimum, we still have quality :} |
16:51 |
Fixer |
servers* |
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17:17 |
Calinou |
fog_start = 1.0: https://lut.im/Iun0MY2KTO/L0XoNb5bUF9F6TY6.png |
17:17 |
Calinou |
:D |
17:17 |
Calinou |
(with view range 20) |
17:19 |
Raven262 |
Hi Calinou |
17:27 |
PumpkinHead |
!server Megaf |
17:27 |
MinetestBot |
PumpkinHead: Megaf Server v4 | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 2/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms |
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18:17 |
Fixer |
looool, unban for cash |
18:17 |
Fixer |
bestest cancer |
18:30 |
red-001 |
didn't some new ToS ban that in minecraft? |
18:31 |
red-001 |
let me guess they just ignore that and never enforce it? |
18:33 |
Calinou |
red-001: probably |
18:33 |
Calinou |
(unless the server gets really large) |
18:41 |
Fixer |
cracked server |
18:41 |
Fixer |
but it is everywhere it seems |
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20:09 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: i only know about levels on that old mc creative server (not the survival version). with a higher level came more worldedit-like commands. progress in level was achieved by building good structures and presenting them to moderators. larger creations where presented in a forum and valuable feedback was given on what might be improved. i liked that a lot (the feedback) and often miss it in mt |
20:13 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: the levels there where even useful. new players started building block-by-block and then achieved wall-building commands; commands for copying and mirroring came much later |
20:17 |
* twoelk |
never was on a public minecraft server but some private ones |
20:20 |
* Calinou |
was on a lot of public Minecraft servers |
20:21 |
Calinou |
not a lot of them had good people |
20:23 |
twoelk |
the fact I never paid for mc might have stopped me from going too public too often |
20:30 |
PumpkinHead |
!server The System Killer |
20:30 |
MinetestBot |
PumpkinHead: No results |
20:31 |
Fixer |
you gotta be kidding me, you can BUY admin or moderator rank |
20:33 |
Fixer |
Calinou: try this one http://minecraftonline.com/ |
20:34 |
Calinou |
I think I've played on this one, a long time ago |
20:34 |
Calinou |
late 2011-early 2012 |
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20:34 |
Calinou |
(1.0-1.1) |
20:34 |
Calinou |
yep, I definitely have |
20:36 |
PumpkinHead |
!server The System |
20:36 |
MinetestBot |
PumpkinHead: The System Killer | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 1/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 11ms |
20:37 |
PumpkinHead |
Join at your ownrisk and watch your RAM usage climb pass 2 GB |
20:38 |
* Calinou |
has 16 GB of RAM |
20:38 |
Calinou |
I am behind 7 CPU cores! |
20:39 |
Calinou |
(actually, just 4…) |
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20:48 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: sure you can buy admin rank - if you run your own server. moderator rank...what'd be the point? people paying now to be allowed to do work? :-) |
20:49 |
* Sokomine |
waves a valueless minegeld paper note at fixer |
20:49 |
Fixer |
Calinou: reminded me with that behind 7 proxies and this https://youtu.be/jziQBWQxvok?t=598 |
20:50 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: it is forbidden by EULA |
20:50 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: if server owner wants Donation, let it be, but without affecting gameplay, otherwise it becames shitmess |
20:51 |
Fixer |
and if you see MC servers - they are shits for profit pretty much |
20:51 |
Fixer |
in a bad way |
20:51 |
Fixer |
good luck finding good server |
20:52 |
Calinou |
one of the wiki pages of the server you linked has doxed an user (it's still up today)… |
20:52 |
Calinou |
it shows the menality of some of the Minecraft server admins out there |
20:52 |
Calinou |
mentality* |
20:53 |
Fixer |
Calinou: yeah |
20:53 |
Fixer |
sad |
20:53 |
Fixer |
it is like, HOLY SHIT, Minetest servers are actually good |
20:54 |
twoelk |
not only good but indeed friendly places |
20:56 |
Mr-Pardison |
very friendly if you find the right one. |
21:02 |
Fixer |
it is pretty easy to find |
21:03 |
Mr-Pardison |
true. |
21:03 |
Mr-Pardison |
g2g will brb |
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21:39 |
paramat |
why (off)? |
21:40 |
Mr_Pardison |
forgot to flip the switch to the 'on' position :P |
21:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
https://github.com/cordial-cobra/technic |
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21:45 |
Mr_Pardison |
Need to see if the charge level should be at 300k which is where it is set for mine or should be kept at 30k (which is the default) since a redwood tree is so big. |
21:57 |
twoelk |
so many tree mods that might want to be added :P https://wiki.minetest.net/Mods:Nature |
21:58 |
Mr_Pardison |
once you have finished testing it, I'd like to know whether the charge level for the chainsaw should be at 300k or 30k for cutting down a redwood. |
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22:04 |
IhrFussel |
Seems like a party system is more difficult than I thought...if a player joins or leaves the party I need to update all other player attributes to store the new member names, but if one of them is offline at that time it won't work |
22:11 |
Sokomine |
most mt servers are indeed very friendly places. i'm very thankful for their existence and try to give back by building at least something small (sometimes plans are too big and time too little sadly) |
22:12 |
IhrFussel |
Looks like mod storage could fix my issue |
22:12 |
Sokomine |
IhrFussel: yes, store it elsewhere and not in the players as such. how are they supposed to join groups anyway? |
22:13 |
IhrFussel |
Via commands of course... /invite <player> /pok (to accept) /leave |
22:14 |
IhrFussel |
I want to display the party info in a new inventory tab |
22:16 |
IhrFussel |
Will storage:get_string() return "" instead of nil if non-existent? |
22:17 |
sfan5 |
probably |
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22:53 |
Fixer |
reading about new amd apus |
22:55 |
Fixer |
i should say, it is DAMN impressive |
22:56 |
Fixer |
it is ideal for Sokomine, maybe a bit hot |
23:02 |
Fixer |
it is not itty, but good value for such budget |
23:04 |
Fixer |
like integrated, but for real now |
23:04 |
Fixer |
with good fps in minetest |
23:06 |
Fixer |
performance near GT 1030 |
23:14 |
Fixer |
2x-3x faster than intel integrated |
23:15 |
Fixer |
mostly 3x+ faster |
23:18 |
celeron55 |
how's linux support for new amd apus? |
23:27 |
Fixer |
no idea |
23:28 |
Fixer |
phoronix will test it soon |
23:38 |
Fixer |
https://www.techspot.com/review/1574-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-and-ryzen-3-2200g/page4.html |
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lumberJ |
juh |